gd2-nullified

[high wasp]

hm it's hard to tell, it looks like Railgunner's primary has around the same fire rate of Commando which I don't really like

but I can't really tell

[dire rivet]

with a load of attack speed and on hit procs it can be very good

like any weapon in the game

[high wasp]

I mean yeah it's good I like the weapon, just I don't like the idea of it being better or the same as Commando's primary

[chilly bay]

Still can't crit off those procs the so I think that in long runs it'll be the worst M1 out of the cast

[high wasp]

oh yeah, the no random crits is also a pretty important thing

[dire rivet]

true true

the first shots power is boosted by a perfect reload tho!!!!

[high wasp]

❗

[gaunt yacht]

the first primary shot is boosted huh

[naive python]

[dire rivet]

all attacks are boosted by a perfect reload

xqr, snipe and overcharge

[gaunt yacht]

you sure the primary is boosted in dev thoughts 25 it wasn't

I don't wanna search the simu gameplay

[chilly bay]

On my way to deal a lil more than 500% damage on the first tap of a Visions shot

[dire rivet]

i mean i'm not sat there with a calculator but thats what the description says lol

[high wasp]

Hm, I think the short range and the no random crits would make it weaker than Commando's primary so it looks fine as is, and I think it does actually have a little bit less fire rate the Double Tap.

the first shot isn't boosted by perfect reload, I'll send the timestamp in a sec

https://youtu.be/dvL4umtHerM?t=313

[gaunt yacht]

Yeah M1 is not booster in the simu gameplay either

[dire rivet]

oh damn what an upset im gonna have to rethink all my builds

[gaunt yacht]

It would've been annoying if your m1 stole your reload bonus

[high wasp]

yeah it's nice that it doesn't

but both videos are like 6 weeks old so it could've changed since then 🤷

[gaunt yacht]

sotv no spoilers when we post all the spoilers

[gaunt yacht]

Simu gameplay is new footage

[high wasp]

oh nice

[gaunt yacht]

first time they changed the version number to 1.2

[chilly bay]

No 500+% damage non-explosion vision shots

[gaunt yacht]

no 505% damage visions

[chilly bay]

Welp, at least M1 won't steal band procs

[opal tulip]

@dire rivet Will it be an extra hour before survivor reveal on twitch? (Like it was on the previous stream)

[gaunt yacht]

yeah

[dire rivet]

yea like on the announcement stream starts a 5pm GMT reveal at 6pm GMT

[toxic rampart]

this chat isnt ded?

[gaunt yacht]

Wonder why

[chilly bay]

Guys, best build in the game
M1 shoots p fast so use Essence of Heresy
(I do low key want to see no sniping challenge runs)

[gaunt yacht]

essence hooks Railer

[naive python]

That's... Kinda crazy

[chilly bay]

Although no Visions should be a condition in the challenge.
No bypassing by becoming Heretic, you gotta live with your no sniping railgunner

[opal tulip]

Any information about how backup magazines will affect on a sniper shot?

[merry karma]

unsurprisingly, https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/940567754208051230.webp?size=48&quality=lossless is much more dps and burst than normal railgunner

[empty current]

Probably just more bullet

[full gale]

1 more shot before you have to reload

[gaunt yacht]

extra shot won't have bonus reload damage

[opal tulip]

Seems legit

[chilly bay]

You may still want to stack lots of backup in case you grab hooks

[gaunt yacht]

Might be very good might be entirely useless at base attack speed

we'll see how it feels on launch

[naive python]

3 more weeks

[cunning swift]

free gd 1 🥺

[naive python]

Can we stop talking about GD1 already?

[chilly bay]

I am simultaneously so ready and so unready for Railgunner.

[ruby cargo]

hiii

[naive python]

Hi

[mossy garden]

i will never use scope mode and only base M1

[chilly bay]

Alt special ability is going to be a supercharged version of M1 just you see

[mossy garden]

it better be

i just hope alt M2 removes reload

cus im not a fan of reload

[high wasp]

I wonder why that Gup in the background shoots a bunch of projectiles out when it spawns in

[mossy garden]

at least its more streamlined than ror1 reload

[gaunt yacht]

I just hope alt m2 isn't stay zoomed in

[chilly bay]

The noscope gun
The reload does seem way more generous than on Sniper back in-yes

[gaunt yacht]

scope and charge mechanics are just not fun in a fast paced game like this

[crystal pilot]

magma gup

[gaunt yacht]

Magma worm

[high wasp]

am i stupid

[chilly bay]

Risk 1 sniper I just can't play. But I understand why he has fans.

[high wasp]

i thought the magma worm was a gup for a second

[naive python]

I just hope the alt M2 keeps the FP scope

[gaunt yacht]

imo ideally Alt M2 would just have a different reload bonus or smth

Or maybe killing with alt m2 gives you another bullet or smth and there isn't a reload bonus idk

lots that could be done I'm sure it'll be fun

[mossy garden]

im not opposed to the reload as a concept, bandit shows it can be fun

what i dont like is how this is such a differing mechanic that it forces you to invest into the character more than the rest and takes away the simplicity

[chilly bay]

Alt M2 shoots one 100% damage aggressive tracking round, just came up with this original concept

[gaunt yacht]

You're actually forced to use a characters gimmick damn

[mossy garden]

alt shift deals damage, but only to your allies. not yourself or enemies

[gaunt yacht]

If the gameplay loop feels good once we're playing her then it's all good

[mossy garden]

agreed

[gaunt yacht]

but a character that still feels different lategame should be nice

[iron plover]

good morning gd1

[naive python]

Or pure semi auto but no extra reload dmg

[forest crag]

The inspiration from Sniper is clear, and I think the people who end up playing the character often will appreciate the gimmick more than feel annoyed by it

[naive python]

Gm gd1n't

[mossy garden]

true, but thats not my point

[gaunt yacht]

Keep in mind Special is also affected by reload bonus

[chilly bay]

Can't wait for Sniper to be unveiled as the second DLC character.

[mossy garden]

every character in ror2 is simple to play but fun to master. sniper2 is the only character that drastically falls outside this simple playstyle

[forest crag]

If it works the way Sniper did, then attack speed should affect the speed and timing of the active reload too

So with experience it gets really satisfying

[warped edge]

we have Sniper, and Railgunner

[high wasp]

attack speed increases the size of the perfect reload area

[crisp lion]

I don't think that makes the character bad per say

[warped edge]

the Sniper update

[main trout]

is railgunner not simple to play?

[gaunt yacht]

you mean this?

[gaunt yacht]

Very simple to play

[mossy garden]

at least the reload just has 2 zones, not 3 like in ror1

[abstract umbra]

they're so fast holy fuck

[crisp lion]

Also, plant Rex isn't someone I'd say is a simple character to play due to the amount of health management

[mossy garden]

it doesnt, but im just not a fan myself

[warped edge]

it is simple just dont die all your ability spam can win you battles because they are strong

[crisp lion]

Well when you put it that way, yeah it is simple. But it's not simple in practice.

[forest crag]

Just don't get hit idk what the problem is

[mossy garden]

REX is a great example of what i like actually

he is incredibly straightforward and requires minimal mechanical skill, but is very hard to master and play optimally

[warped edge]

especially the m2 with directive harvest rinse and repeat

[wheat ice]

I think that's a really big claim considering you have neither played her or seen more than very early game footage. It's obviously a unique character but I don't think it's actually gonna change much of what items are best to pick up late game. Some synergies and chain reactions are gonna be hilarious with her damage output

[mossy garden]

same for merc

[gaunt yacht]

Default Railer will probably not be too hard to master

just gotta get a feel for the weakspots

[crisp lion]

Not to mention we still have another character coming

[mossy garden]

rooty tooty dashy swooshy is fun and simple, mastering merc is for those that want to invest in their main

[forest crag]

Also have good aim

Scope aiming is gonna feel different

[gaunt yacht]

Huntress denier when Huntress Mains are still good at Railgunner

[mossy garden]

cannot comprehend. acrid.

[chilly bay]

My money is on at least one of the Railgunner unlocks having something to do with sniping at a ridiculous distance

[warped edge]

one shot a boss outside of tele zone

[mossy garden]

im speaking from my experience from ror1 sniper

and if im totally wrong, then good, absolute victory

[wheat ice]

also, isn't it cool that they're making more characters you actually have ways to build uniquely? I love characters that makes me think a little more about certain synergies

[mossy garden]

totally

[marble verge]

a funny one would be kill x enemies while Supercharge is rebooting

[mossy garden]

i just dont like reload

personal opinion

[warped edge]

its not a character to enjoy with 300ms that will be sure

[high torrent]

rate my setup, renegades

[wheat ice]

Yeah that's fair, but I think the comparison is hard to make just because of the mechanical differences of the game. like, aim in 2d lmao. but I see where you're coming from

[mossy garden]

🤝

[wheat ice]

Just stack 100 syringes and the bar will be gigantic

[crisp lion]

One is probably gonna be don't go below 100% health

[mossy garden]

opinion respected

[iron plover]

game discussion...

[gaunt yacht]

Deskplant Forgive me please real

[wheat ice]

gaming

[warped edge]

corrupted deskplant

[gaunt yacht]

just actual immortality

[high torrent]

6 brooches

[wheat ice]

deskplant is op

[warped edge]

deskplant becomes gaming plant for its void variant, it will now come with RGB

[chilly bay]

Void Dio's
When you die you change game modes to Simulacrum

[marble verge]

Railgunner: “Down but Not Out”: As Railgunner, kill a total of 15 enemies while your railgun is rebooting.

[high torrent]

90 barrier x 8 from each fmp

[warped edge]

and some other useless features that makes gaming stuff more expensive than usual

[chilly bay]

Yea das p good

[high torrent]

that's headstompers moment

[mossy garden]

that would honestly be pretty sick actually

having to survive 5-esc waves and then revive normally

[wheat ice]

I can't wait to shoot 600 missiles from one supercharged railgun shot that deals 19 million damage each with my 12 ICBMs and 5 clovers

[high torrent]

i think i will just write in ids for all the unlocks for my normal save and do the game from scratch with all "legit n vanilla" stuff on the other save file

[mossy garden]

i cant wait to sidbevuxbwuzjwvhdhe stuff as acrid in dlc

[crisp lion]

Disposable missile launcher

[mossy garden]

or even better,

[chilly bay]

Oh, and then the thing is that it's riskier but you can get some items outta it?

[mossy garden]

yup

[crisp lion]

Chef bad

[marble verge]

Includes causing enemies to fall because of concussion device.

[chilly bay]

Hm, interestin.
Although multiplayer probably breaks it

[mossy garden]

what a terrible opinion you got there, im sorry

[crisp lion]

Cope

[mossy garden]

[chilly bay]

CHEF best boi
(Acrid second best boi)

[naive python]

So, you need to fight in Brazil to revive? Damn, that's rough

[wheat ice]

has there been any theory crafting on railgunners alt abilities

[mossy garden]

someone told me to cope (i lost the internet argument)

[wheat ice]

I'm mega excited to see those

gun 2

[mossy garden]

alt shift damages allies but not yourself or enemies

[marble verge]

[wheat ice]

alt shift sucks them in instead of push out

le

[naive python]

That way she loses mobility

[mossy garden]

but it would be funny

[wheat ice]

that would be dumb funny

[naive python]

True

[chilly bay]

Alt shift is spider repulsion devices
Who needs control?

Just pop m wherever

[wheat ice]

the alt abilities will be cope for people who doesn't like sniping

[chilly bay]

Alt M2 will be M2 except your bullets are triangles

[mossy garden]

i hope so

[chilly bay]

I am so sure the alt skill icons giving zero info to go on is part of the teasing

[iron plover]

embed failure

[naive python]

You need a rol, get one in #role-assignment

[full gale]

based void fields items

[gaunt yacht]

just replace this with a triangle and make it blue

[high wasp]

The alt M2 probably has some different reward for hitting a sweet spot or perfect reload

[naive python]

1000% extra dmg per reload

[spark pawn]

there's an alt m2? thought it was just a special and utility

[iron plover]

there is

[spark pawn]

neat

[iron plover]

quite poggers

[gaunt aspen]

Alt utility looks like a teleporter

[iron plover]

guh??

[gaunt aspen]

My English

[high shoal]

WAIT
IS GD1 BEING NUKED

[ruby cargo]

hello gd2

[iron plover]

it's over

[gaunt yacht]

the triangular mine looks like circle mine but triangular

[spark pawn]

all the alternate skills are more angular with their icons, which like, totally means something

[high shoal]

YES

[gaunt aspen]

“Rebranded”

[high shoal]

How long has this server been up

[kind pivot]

I'll try getting to mithrix without pillars as loader then...

[empty shard]

this poor man

i have bands too

aaand he just died instantly

this is why you equip diablo ladies & gentlemen & everyone in between

[iron plover]

diablo pillar skip

[empty shard]

this is also true

[iron plover]

commencement gets reworked and people still just skip it

[high torrent]

I mean
that's something that devs intended too
if you have the tools, why not?

[full gale]

good. tt cringe

[empty shard]

nuke

[high shoal]

YOU'RE CRINGE

[empty shard]

actually nvm it also got hit by a diablo strike

sorry everyone

[dull ingot]

Sniper already exists in ror2 I don’t know why everyone is so hyped for railgunner

[onyx ice]

Meow

[dull ingot]

x50

[abstract umbra]

here we go chat

[spark pawn]

u probably got this

[high torrent]

yeah looks like a clean win to me

[high torrent]

double rebar mult

[spark pawn]

double rebar mul-t with the 13500 3.0

[abstract umbra]

yea that was beyond easy

[ruby cargo]

i gotta start eclipse runs

[empty current]

Imagine being decent at this game

[dull ingot]

Exaclty or crowbar bandit

[full gale]

NO

[high shoal]

YES

[fast pecan]

hold on, that's 8 transc i see there

[abstract umbra]

i hit a bazaar on every single stage

i don't infinitely reroll for good items i have my limits: 5 rerolls maximum

[full gale]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[gaunt aspen]

F

[high shoal]

should I try to play risk of rain 2 console

[abstract umbra]

i got one on plains > got the guaranteed on desert > got the guaranteed on rallypoint > got one on grove

[high torrent]

guaranteeing acres > rally

why even take a chance of getting tc280ed
just go choose yourself an equip from multishop

[high torrent]

wow, that's some iron will!

[empty current]

Hello chat, how are we

[high torrent]

yeah

[empty current]

I see

[dull ingot]

yeah alot of shit hit the fan

meanwhile I was just on the side with my popcorn like

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-drama-drama-argument-political-gif-24419538

[finite river]

Yeah it was amazing

Truly

[toxic rampart]

same

[empty current]

GD1, after so long

Finally, it’s over

[toxic rampart]

anyways, I just came here to say that ROR2 isnt on sale

[dire rivet]

lunar sale must be over

[hybrid vault]

hello friday night funcles

[toxic rampart]

it ended long ago

[hybrid vault]

that's your new name suncles

[toxic rampart]

I got 2 games, but forgot about ROR2 lmfao

[hybrid vault]

get used to it

[mossy garden]

i wonder if the game will go on sale on dlc release

[toxic rampart]

I want the 40% sale back

prolly will never happen tho

[mossy garden]

the game goes on sale for that during summer iirc

[toxic rampart]

tf?

[empty current]

Stab it with the dagger

[hybrid vault]

you didn't expect it, did you?

[merry karma]

zased

[empty current]

https://tenor.com/view/delay-cat-gif-21402724

[mossy garden]

hifu with the good items

[empty current]

Reds are kinda less hype on stage one ngl

[toxic rampart]

131 days, a bit much

[toxic rampart]

I defo didnt

[merry karma]

i killed the boss in like two seconds

[tawdry ember]

friday 13th sale

[empty current]

Listen man I’m just saying

Reds, at least for me, are supposed to compliment a certain buld extremely well

[high wasp]

I doubt the game goes on sale when the dlc is already going on sale

[toxic rampart]

will the game be apart of this sale?

[mossy garden]

why would it

[prime crescent]

maybe it'll have it's own seperate sale for the dlc?

[mossy garden]

ror2 has no splitscreen

[toxic rampart]

idk thats why I am asking

[mossy garden]

nor remote play

[toxic rampart]

I dont have the game am asking lmfao

[high wasp]

Risk of rain 1 might but not ror2

[toxic rampart]

hmm I c

Thanks

[whole lotus]

T

[toxic rampart]

U

[abstract umbra]

i like rallypoint more

personal preference

[ruby cargo]

hi

[gaunt yacht]

I like Rallypoints flatness but too many credits can just be wasted

[mossy garden]

acres is way faster tbh

just less vision

[ruby cargo]

i hate hate hate acres

i love when the teleporter ishalfway under a bridge so i can see neither particles not it in itself

id always take rallypoint over acres tbh you can get to the teleporter way faster too

[high wasp]

I like acres

Idc about tp being under bridges and particles not being visible

Because if I don’t see particles anywhere else on the map than I can know it’s under a bridge

[ruby cargo]

i just hate moving across the platforms in acres too tbh

i dont like the gyres

it just feels too big and spaced out

[naive python]

Totally agree, also, rallypoint looks cooler

[ruby cargo]

funnily enough i had my longest teleporter search on sirens call and not acres

[frosty tangle]

g2a exists

you can get a global key for ror2 for like $8

[ruby cargo]

allkeyshop

[high wasp]

I like the equipment multishops on acres

[dire rivet]

ummm the grey market doesnt pay my salary!!!

[ruby cargo]

i play with sacrifice so it doesnt really matter

[marble sage]

was about to ban, actually

[ruby cargo]

pay your own salary..

[marble sage]

G2A are stolen keys, 99% of the time

[red pine]

What happened to gd1

[ruby cargo]

where do they even get stolen from?

like the dev has to generate keys right how do they end up on a market

[high wasp]

Server is getting a little reconstruction soon, read uncles’s messages in gd1 and the feedback thread

[frosty tangle]

oh, sorry, I didn't realize that, is it against the rules to atalk abt that here?

i assume people bought a bunch on a big sale and then resold them slightly higher or something

[marble sage]

it's... undesirable xD

[red pine]

Oh alr thank you!

[ruby cargo]

ok got it

[frosty tangle]

i'll make sure to avoid it then, thanks for the heads up

[carmine gyro]

i bought ror2 for myself on steam but i had to buy a key too because of being unable to gift it(region lock) 🤓

[warped edge]

ngl i wish steam make us pay global price (US price) just to gift someone some games

[half spruce]

is ther ean item that decreases cooldown time? for skills?

[slender sigil]

purity and alien head

[carmine gyro]

i agree

[marble sage]

and when I say stolen, it's mostly Russian bots that get a hold of people's Steam profiles through scams, empty their wallet on discounted local keys for games (regional pricing, much cheaper), and resell them.
So the devs do get money, but MUCH less

• people are getting robbed in he process

[half spruce]

ik purity but thanks for the other one also what rarity is it

[ruby cargo]

oooh that makes sense. I had the impression that keys have to be generated by a developer

[slender sigil]

red

[half spruce]

f

[gaunt yacht]

[half spruce]

thanks]

[warped edge]

doesnt make sense when all region prices are region locked

[gaunt yacht]

Hardlight is only for utility

[warped edge]

🤔

[ruby cargo]

becuase as far as I know steam accounts/steam gifts aren't as common as just keys

[warped edge]

yeah sure you can buy the game far cheaper at russia, but you cant give anyone with it outside of russia ukrania or Kazakhstan and several more idk

[slender sigil]

oh true i forgor hardlight
and bandolier and brainstalks dont really count but they exist too

[carmine gyro]

hardlight is awesome

[gaunt yacht]

Bandolier and Brainstalks are awesome

[full nest]

hardlight is awesome

[carmine gyro]

it adds 2 extra utility charges and also reduces utility cooldown so its pretty good

[uncut hatch]

Bandolier ends up being better than alien head in most cases

[warped edge]

unless they somehow bypass the region lock?

[carmine gyro]

i mean

ror2 literally costs like 7 dollars for me in ukraine

[warped edge]

yeah and you cant give it outside of the slavic regions

same goes for JP i cant give it to US cause my region is locked to East Asia

[gaunt yacht]

When they adding Hardlight burner for Special

[carmine gyro]

and then i had to buy a key for WOW! 7 dollars! to gift it to my australian friend

[marble sage]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warped edge]

I meant the stolen keys that taxipone explained

[marble sage]

I dunno the inner workings

but any dev would tell you that G2A = bad

[uncut hatch]

Ive been suggesting adding +1 special skill use to alien head for a while bc rn alien head is just made worthless by the existence of bandolier

[ruby cargo]

i remember that one dev going like "Id rather have you pirating my game than buying on g2a" or something like that i think it got like a bunch of attention

[carmine gyro]

if anything i would always take ancient scepter over +1 special charge

[marble sage]

yup, pretty much

[warped edge]

if only steam let us buy games with US price (since their keys gen from US can be gifted everywhere) without 3 party

[marble sage]

even if the game keys are legit (I doubt they are), they are coming from victim's wallets, pretty often

[hollow dirge]

[ruby cargo]

frankly I'd rather buy a AAA game key than buying it from steam. Different case for indie

[marble sage]

fuck AAA games

[ruby cargo]

I guess that's where the profit comes from. I'm legitimately curious about how keys are acquired though

[marble sage]

there are very few that are good nowadays anyway

[ruby cargo]

red dead 2 was honestly beautiful story-wise

gameplay, not so much

[warped edge]

fuck it, ror 2 physical release when

[gaunt yacht]

Spend less effort to make less game just to raise the price by another 10 bucks anyways with mircotransactions

[warped edge]

so i can just mail the thing

[ruby cargo]

I can't think of that much else, GoW2018 was ok? besides that idk

[marble sage]

it was on Switch, I think

[warped edge]

no one wants to play on unstable build

[ruby cargo]

what engine does ror2 run on

[marble sage]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warped edge]

unity probably for the amount it crashed

[tawdry ember]

can't wait for ror 2 floppys

[uncut hatch]

It is unity

[warped edge]

knew it

[ruby cargo]

ah ok

[warped edge]

unreal engine ror3 when

[tawdry ember]

get real

[ruby cargo]

UE5

[warped edge]

RTX UE5 Acrid

[gaunt yacht]

isn't it like super easy to port unity to console

[ruby cargo]

oh yeah ofc its unity im stupid

what the fuck did I think r2modman was

[uncut hatch]

No suncles just put it out of its misery

[tawdry ember]

stop blaming him
i'm actually ok with that

[reef swallow]

gd1 deserved to die

[ruby cargo]

the only thing it prob did was make gd1 people ruin gd2

[warped edge]

im one of those people

[prime crescent]

yes gd1 literally killed itself

[uncut hatch]

Gd1 wanted to die

[prime crescent]

and I'm super happy it's gone, good riddance

[high wasp]

Y’all killed yourself lol, if you want to still shitpost just go to general

[marble sage]

please don't go to general

[tawdry ember]

why not we start here

[marble sage]

go outside of this server

[high wasp]

Because then the same thing that happened the past two days will just happen again :P

[fallow depot]

aaa games meh agreed

[ruby cargo]

i hate memes channels but it often makes people less obnoxious in other chats ngl

[tawdry ember]

is it was 2 days?

[high wasp]

Idk I just meant past days in general idk how long the whole situation has lasted

[spark pawn]

im glad they didn't set up a huge barrier between xb1 and the new one, like they did with 360

[marble sage]

we had to get rid of the memes channel

[tawdry ember]

today.

[elder portal]

[fallow depot]

dunno where peoples endless desire to shitpost offtopic comes from

[marble sage]

cope 😎

[ruby cargo]

i can see why hahaa

[warped edge]

🐹

[high wasp]

It started a few days ago, like 2 days ago was the first day where the people started getting banned a lot for breaking rules and shit posting

[tawdry ember]

did you really just censored shit

[high wasp]

Autocorrect

[ruby cargo]

what

[tranquil ridge]

LordDeath#2400 was muted

[gaunt yacht]

well there goes that

[uncut hatch]

Yeah i saw that coming

[iron plover]

silence the victims

like wtf

[gaunt yacht]

I just hope they figure out how to communicate better

[tawdry ember]

ok then.

some got banned because of being horny as i remember, yes it was shitpost but too much of shitposts like that

[gaunt yacht]

Some were punished fairly some weren't

[pastel stratus]

Im blind as f... Where the bug report channel

[gaunt yacht]

#ror2-bug-reports-pc

[pastel stratus]

Ty

[uncut hatch]

The mods dont want to kill fun
They just need people to not be insane

[tawdry ember]

i've gone completely mental

[fallow depot]

does anybody have any tips for when i get to doing captain smushed

[marble sage]

point being, don't stir the goddamn pot. Please

xD

[uncut hatch]

Stack glass and gas

[full gale]

"deleted gd1" "killed gd1" "server's dead"

They will literally rename/repurpose the channels for when the DLC comes out and they want to keep chat history so like?

bro.

I'm not defending or agreeing with the extremely shitty acts of "moderation" that happened recently but like calm yo tits about this chnanel business?

[prime crescent]

don't take stuff that can accidently screw you over like bands/atg missles

[fallow depot]

sticky bomb…

evil

[prime crescent]

don't worry about it too much sticky bomb doesn't deal too much damage unlike bands or atg

just uh don't use your shift too if you have it since that'd make the sticky bomb deal lots of damage

[high wasp]

Yeah people are just being so dramatic about it.
The channel will stay, it will just have a different name and different rules to actually be a game discussion channel

[fallow depot]

this dubious little item
up to no good
ruined my bandit desperado that one time

[high wasp]

It’s really not a big deal at all

[tawdry ember]

general discussion*

[ruby cargo]

i think i chose a very unfortunate time to join this server

[bright palm]

Its going to be a general chat but yea

[uncut hatch]

Yeah we are getting a genD channel

[tawdry ember]

genZ channel

[marble sage]

yup, we're solving things RN. Hopefully things will be fine soon 😅

[high wasp]

Oh yeah sorry I mixed up which channels are being changed to what but still

[fallow depot]

i mean it might be pretty nice and better than ever after this dies out and its implemented

ideally

[high wasp]

Yeah the server will be much better after everything is implemented I imagine

[uncut hatch]

Yeah this isnt the worst first impression
Gd1 was pretty toxic

[marble sage]

boomer channel that's just air fryer chat

[prime crescent]

clearly you don't own one

[tawdry ember]

so it's just hidden

[bright palm]

Its probably better than last night but there's a bunch of entitled memers who are mad they can't have a tantrum in the discord and are being told to stop circle jerking

[full gale]

[fallow depot]

clearly you dont own a rallypoint delta fan

[ruby cargo]

yeahh, but server reforms take so much effort because users can't always get used to it. Sounds like its gonna be rough the next week or so

[rose pewter]

Oh so everyone from gd1 moved here

Time to ruin this chat too

[spark pawn]

nah

[ruby cargo]

I've been here for like half a week or a week? It's been really messy especially in regards of member opinions towards mods and that kinda stuff

[empty current]

I’m a rallypoint fan

[marble sage]

it's the same when the memes channel got the same way and we yeeted it. People complained for a few days and then stopped

[empty current]

Fucking love snow as much as I love war

[spark pawn]

what's your rpm

[fallow depot]

i probably wont be a gd1er after this all, shitposting isnt my thing really besides funny rallypoint fan pun

[empty current]

4 minutes

[high wasp]

Based siphoned forest enjoyer

[marble sage]

nobody will be a GD1er, there won't be a GD1 to GD1 in

[ruby cargo]

gd1 had enjoyable people.. like two of them

[spark pawn]

there'll be general discussion one

[empty current]

I think you mean “warhorn catalyst”

[fallow depot]

har har you get what i mean lol

[iron plover]

yeah no i'm just leaving post sotv

[tawdry ember]

wakan and coffeerow

[stable fulcrum]

what

[warped edge]

persona 3 has 0, so gd1 is already better

[high wasp]

[tawdry ember]

hi wakan

[empty current]

And one those is me!
…right?

[stable fulcrum]

hiii sonar :)

[uncut hatch]

Im definitely going back to the gend bc if it does what its supposed to
The culture there will be better

[ruby cargo]

it has a really pretty woman its fine

[tawdry ember]

1:53 am
i must learn monologue

[uncut hatch]

Also someones gotta be the snitch

[warped edge]

all pretty women are terrible in that game unfortunately, remember karin marin woman

[earnest radish]

Woah, servers been wack while i’ve been gone

GD1 is now read only

[fallow depot]

i can be a great snitch

[empty current]

Yup

[tawdry ember]

like a museum

[dull ingot]

earthbound is on switch

[ruby cargo]

thats ok as long as she is pretty

[gaunt yacht]

post sotv spoilers before it's illegal

[marble sage]

we're rebuilding things RN, you chose a weird time to return

[warped edge]

she will still be useless

[ruby cargo]

I heard the dying man social link was REALLY good

[spark pawn]

3 days before we can learn about the new survivor tho

[dull ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/earthbound-gif-9657779

[ruby cargo]

ummmm she can uhhhhhh analyze!!

[warped edge]

analyze in a game where you cant control the rest of your teammates moves.

[ruby cargo]

i have a mod for it

[warped edge]

and the game's difficulty is clearly not designed for that.

[tawdry ember]

it's another creature from the deeps of the ocean

[fallow depot]

my man! void leech!

[warped edge]

even on merciless, controllable teammate beat the game easily

[ruby cargo]

fuck the gameplay im playing for story

im playing on EASY

[warped edge]

then dont use controllable teammate mod

[tawdry ember]

so next character is probably a platypus

[fallow depot]

perry the void platypus

[ruby cargo]

nope i hate the gameplay i just want it over with

[warped edge]

then watch the walkthrough thats just the same

[fallow depot]

im hyped for new survivor

[uncut hatch]

Rex ascended real not fake

[fallow depot]

the only thing in ror2 i will never accept is that being rexs “head”

[ruby cargo]

more immersive to play

[high wasp]

Same, it’s gonna be awesome

[gaunt yacht]

What else would be it's head

[ruby cargo]

ill watch a playthrough for p2 tho because im not bothering with that

[dull ingot]

3 days to go

[warped edge]

buy a immersive vr set

[fallow depot]

my headcanon is the plant yellow balls are the eyes

[tawdry ember]

how rex looks like without it's robotic things

[ruby cargo]

i have vr

[dire rivet]

surely thats its intelligent part - the plant is just a plant the robot body is looking after as its hydroponic unit

[marble sage]

uuuh

[warped edge]

no role posted a link

[fallow depot]

he looks goofy like
. .
w
if you see the plant as a face

[high wasp]

Who’s gonna find out what it does

[empty current]

Totally not a virus

[warped edge]

now, do we not ban the user, yes or no

[marble sage]

https://i.imgur.com/yg3HlgV.jpeg

yes

[fallow depot]

i suppose rex is the name of the robot not the plant

[hollow dirge]

russia

[uncut hatch]

get yeeted

[tranquil ridge]

Степашка#8283 was banned

[tawdry ember]

i usually don't do some things like that

[fallow depot]

but its ALSO my headcanon that capitalized REX refers to both of them

[empty current]

That was a fast one made to a corpse

[warped edge]

nice cause if you dont the gd2 will be deleted as well

[gaunt yacht]

rex is his true name

REX is fake and a misspelling smh

[empty current]

Rex is rex

[marble sage]

USUALLY

[warped edge]

regs

[fallow depot]

rex is so fun to play

its like dancing with death

[tawdry ember]

this was only one time and it was just a prank ok

[fallow depot]

just a probk

i misspelled your misspelling dangit

[marble sage]

iTs JusT a pRaNk BrO

lol

[fallow depot]

just a pronk

[empty current]

rex mains are all masochists I believe

[high wasp]

yeah

I love Rex

[tawdry ember]

okay now i'll do the worst possible thing in discord

[fallow depot]

and so are roguelike players

[high wasp]

All Isaac players especially

[marble sage]

i was a huntress main since the game came out, but i've been finding love for Bandit recently

[uncut hatch]

rex is the first three characters in the serial code for the machine
capitalize it and it becomes "Rex" a commonly used name to refer to an individual with agency and awareness of its own actions and surroundings
its a cute little robit

[tawdry ember]

well

[empty current]

Fuckin nerd

[fallow depot]

the huntress to bandit main pipeline is a real one

[tawdry ember]

you were close

[iron plover]

both skilless

[empty current]

I just realize i’ve followed that pipeline

[empty current]

Obligatory huntress bad statement

[marble sage]

nah, bandit has to AIM

[fallow depot]

i still play huntress from time to time tho shes fun

[uncut hatch]

she is fun

[iron plover]

counterpoint: ballista

[fallow depot]

it makes me feel even cooler playing a low damage character and still winning

[uncut hatch]

im tired of pretending she's not fun

[empty current]

Ballista needs to do more honestly

[uncut hatch]

truly

[fallow depot]

that is a counterpoint to her being fun

[marble sage]

counterpoint: why aren't we talking about Engi

xD

[uncut hatch]

give ballista pierce

[high torrent]

huntress with hht and fussilade is really epic

[fallow depot]

arrow rain my beloved

[empty current]

Let me get the bungus out

[marble sage]

[empty current]

You fool

[fallow depot]

bungus to wungus pipeline

[empty current]

I have already converted it all to wungus

[marble sage]

wungus mains assemble!

[empty current]

[high torrent]

arrow rain becomes an actual skill and you have ballista as your primary, which pierces

[gaunt yacht]

Wungus Monarchy

[tawdry ember]

minecraft wungus full automatization

[uncut hatch]

i would like ballista significantly more if it wasnt confined to single target damage

[full gale]

huntress my beloved

[fallow depot]

if you refer to warped fungus as wungus, then yes actually a fully sustainable no player needed wungus farm is possible

[empty current]

If it did AOE it would just straight up be better arrow rain

[uncut hatch]

thats why i suggest buffing both so that arrow rain has a better proc coef and ballista pireces instead of dealing aoe

[fallow depot]

i would like ballista if it didnt send me ten miles backwards

but thats just personal preference

[high wasp]

I like being sent up in the sky when using ballista

[empty current]

I would like ballista if I was good on KBM and didn’t get hit by 39 lemurians when doing it

[leaden crag]

I would rather both specials just not make you stuck in the air

[gaunt yacht]

Arrow Rain >>> Balista in da Simulacrum

be forced to use the worse skill

[carmine gyro]

arrow rain ☠️

[fallow depot]

oh the other day i managed to survive like 5 overloading vagrants on horrible pace as huntress and what an amazing feeling that was
also had like 14 afflictions that would activate for 3 seconds every like 20 seconds
riveting tbh

[leaden crag]

That sounds

Awful
How long did it take

[uncut hatch]

the thing about huntress's special attacks is that the most effective way to use them is by aiming them before activation

[fallow depot]

thanks to all the broken ships on sirens call i survived it all with my beloved triple blink

[uncut hatch]

so that you arent stuck stock still in the air for 3 seconds

[empty current]

You haven’t lived until you got triple blink purity

[fallow depot]

oh it was like ten minutes of panic dodging explosions we were horribly off pace and my friend was dead

[marble sage]

who the hell takes 3 seconds to aim?

[fallow depot]

cd reduction messes with my muscle memory for the next few runs so its stinky

[uncut hatch]

i do on occasion

[tawdry ember]

suncles

[empty current]

Drizzle players

[gaunt yacht]

Huntress Mains when they have to aim

[marble sage]

understandable

[uncut hatch]

thats why no one likes arrow rain bc not only do you have to aim it but the aiming convention is wonky

[hollow dirge]

old man

[empty current]

Huntress mains using tri blink to avoid taxes

[fallow depot]

hahayes

[high torrent]

you just hop, ratata, and resume running around throwing toothpicks at people

[hollow dirge]

grandpa defaulter

[next berry]

Pro tip for balista users. R and M1 both shoot balista once it's activated, meaning you can shoot a lot faster

[fallow depot]

the best gameplay

[high torrent]

ok disputed origin fan

[ruby cargo]

Engine- zzzzz

[tawdry ember]

hello dumbdazed can you unblock me

[high torrent]

there's not much to talk about with engi

[uncut hatch]

you can also cancel arrow rain/ballista by blinking

[fallow depot]

i just
my enjoyment in a game often is equal to how fast i can move

[empty current]

Engi mains when

When uhh

[warped edge]

then play loader

[fallow depot]

terraria before i get hermes boots is meh

[high torrent]

there is only one thing bout engi that isnt aids anyways

[uncut hatch]

engineer can move pretty fast if you play him well

[marble sage]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-stand-gif-14880221

[fallow depot]

i have a lodr skissue somehow

[marble sage]

engi mains

[high wasp]

Mobile turrets

[ruby cargo]

engineer mains when uhhh when the uhhh when it happens like the uhhhh the interesting thing that uhhhh the really challenging complicated thing that uhhhh

[tawdry ember]

when they got 3 bungus

[iron plover]

https://twitter.com/hopoogames/status/1489562875937136641

Hopoo Games (@hopoogames)

@themostredman its quite simple - Merc is for highly skilled players (such as myself) and Bandit is for people who are high if they think Bandit requires skill beyond spammin' buckshot into the backs of Lemurians.

Twitter · Feb 4, 2022, 11:33 AM

all i'll say

[fallow depot]

bandit is dopamine

[dire rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/dab-dabbing-kid-dab-kid-dabbing-cool-dab-gif-20792759

[empty current]

Engi mains watching their turrets place next to 3 squid turrets with bungus completely decimate a boss in under 2 Seconds

[tawdry ember]

high like high height?????

[high torrent]

i wonder if suncles even tried to time the third hit ever

[tawdry ember]

is it in 4k

[ruby cargo]

do i wanna go to the grocery store......

[gaunt yacht]

how do you do that on evis

[hollow dirge]

(such as myself)

[ruby cargo]

because i really need to

[high torrent]

just the same actually, it's just looks way lamer

[ruby cargo]

but i dont wanna get up and go.

[high torrent]

than with any other skill

[uncut hatch]

i know merc tech and i know that it becomes pointless with enough attack speed

[fallow depot]

i need to get out of bed now

[high torrent]

scrap attack speed

[next berry]

Pls explain how the merc tech works I've been struggling to pull it off lol

[high torrent]

get actually helpful itemsa

[fallow depot]

me omwto play merc and speedrun attack speed so i dont need to do tech

[high torrent]

i just got a syringe from a damage chest today, stupidest thing i've ever seen

[leaden crag]

There r like 20 of them which one

[uncut hatch]

but it gives me more m1 exposes and eviscerate hits

[marble sage]

you pretend to be an anime fan. that's it

[high torrent]

syringe belongs in utility chest because it's purely qol so you dont feel like a slog

[fallow depot]

huntress conditioned me to forever praise attack speed
its so satisfying

[ruby cargo]

move as if you just watched uhhh one piece with the sword guy

[leaden crag]

Wot

[prime crescent]

merc has some pretty high level tactics that can help him be stronger

[high torrent]

oh boy i love dealing another 110% hit every 2 syringes

[uncut hatch]

attacking faster inevitably deals more damage

[prime crescent]

stuff like using your shift as you start swinging your 3rd attack to expose every enemy hit by your shift

[next berry]

The one where you can get an expose proc using any of his abilities by substituting as the third hit in his primary

[marble sage]

huntress alt main attack with 100% crit is the most satisfying thing ever

[fallow depot]

related to attack speed: i love predatory instincts physics on acrid. it looks so silly when you move your head

[ruby cargo]

ive never used huntress main alt attack i tried and quit the game instantly

[high torrent]

fur suit is pretty silly yeah

[leaden crag]

Use an ability right as the 3rd hit happens, it allowed you to extend its hitbox to a lot of enemies

[empty current]

Acrid fursona

[fallow depot]

i always do flurry tri blink arrow rain default skin

[next berry]

Fresh Meat on Acrid

[high torrent]

oh yeah flurry leaves wisps at a fraction hp and you need to wait another second

[marble sage]

crits double the amount of shots on top of dealing double damage, soo you effectively get 4x DMG

[spark pawn]

it's painful to use without a few crit glasses but popping crits is really nice

[uncut hatch]

i always feel super vulnerable when using phase blink

[ruby cargo]

ooh thats cool, I just hate it even more than the regular in early game honestly that's why i dropped it

[fallow depot]

i feel vulnerable and confused when i have to use default blink

[leaden crag]

Flurry is pretty terrible

[marble sage]

yeah it's weaker early on

[uncut hatch]

the default blink takes practice to learn

[high torrent]

default blink was my biggest skill issue ever

[marble sage]

but gets much better

[fallow depot]

im a flurry enjoyer who hardly ever loops

[leaden crag]

The procs suuuuuck

[warped edge]

???????

[empty current]

Why the fuck did it teleport me up

[high torrent]

like i always used it in a fight, tped to somewhere i didnt want and died

[warped edge]

just press the button and go?

[spark pawn]

you have to get lucky with glasses

[leaden crag]

And in most 6mm games you won't get enough crit for it to be better

[ruby cargo]

ill give it a try eventually, early game is always just difficult for me

[fallow depot]

if i wanted to go upwards i would simply
hit R

[gaunt yacht]

God I hate Flurry

[uncut hatch]

yeah but aiming it is what people dont do

[high torrent]

then i overcame my skill issue and thoroughly enjoy the terrain traversal option, as huntie doesnt need anything but her own legs to dodge enemies

[gaunt yacht]

Wish it had some skill in it instead of "just hope for lens makers lol otherwise deal 20% less damage"

[warped edge]

yeah and they have problems because they cant aim for a character that doesnt need to aim for m1

[ruby cargo]

wait Taxi is your status tarot

[uncut hatch]

yeah bc youre supposed to aim your movement not your attacks

[fallow depot]

i wish triple glaive existed so her entire alt kit could be just
triple stuff
because it already is but that glaive missing is rip

[empty current]

You don’t overcome skill issues

You will, and always will, have skill issues

[high torrent]

imagine not aiming both your movement and attacks

[high torrent]

fake and bluepilled

[fallow depot]

flurry = three arrows
three blinks
ballista has three shots

[ruby cargo]

would glaive feel less awful

[uncut hatch]

huntress is a lot more difficult than people give her credit for and thats due to her mobility being good but a little janky

[high torrent]

adapt, grow, overcome

[ruby cargo]

m1 auto aim

[warped edge]

the 3 blink sucks so much

[uncut hatch]

i agree

[ruby cargo]

her mobility feels great tho i like the triple blink a lot

[mossy garden]

huntress sucks so much

[empty current]

At least have it not hit as much enemies

And maybe a longer timer

[high torrent]

3 blink is just "LOL I DONT GET DAMAGED ANYMORE EVER" and it just sucks dude

[warped edge]

the fact that it doesnt go vertically straight up limits all your option as huntress

[high torrent]

i hate invincibility skills dud

[ruby cargo]

if the reload is a debuff like the bands cooldown we will have a lot of fun

[gaunt yacht]

It's not

[high wasp]

It isn’t

[fallow depot]

tri blink my beloved

[uncut hatch]

triple blink just feels worse in most cases from my perspective when normal movement should suffice

[ruby cargo]

sad

[mossy garden]

[empty current]

I’m guessing this’ would be projectile based or this would just replace bands

[leaden crag]

Triple blink is op as shit

[iron plover]

the only proper way to play huntress

[next berry]

I approve this message, but tbh this is a meta build on any survivor

[warped edge]

yeah and the invincibility can still be done with a single blink with proper attacks maybe you just find the extra time you stay invincible and not attacking a crutch

[fallow depot]

triple blink is fun button

[gaunt yacht]

They are supposedly fast projectiles and they recharge one at a time instead of all at once every 10 seconds

[ruby cargo]

400% damage tho damn

[gaunt yacht]

But yes Shurikens sound stupid strong

[ruby cargo]

+100% per stack

[iron plover]

shurikens on enemies

[leaden crag]

You will never get hit ever with triple blink, the problem isn't the iframes

[gaunt yacht]

only item to get better each stack without being exponential

[empty current]

I see, how much can you store at once?

[fallow depot]

anyways im gonna go for now ba bye

[warped edge]

i rather murder everything than spending time invincible, if i want that i play merc, not a huge deal

[empty current]

Oh wait it says

[gaunt yacht]

says on the thing you start with 3 stock

you recharge one every 3.33 seconds and can hold up to 3

[iron plover]

you just enter mid-range with a scav and get 2-shot because you didn't notice the shurikens

[uncut hatch]

when people say triple blink are they talking about phase blink or the super long default blink?

[empty current]

It also said they all reload in 10 seconds

[merry karma]

say wolfo do you like my huntress changes

[high torrent]

the phase one

[ruby cargo]

oh wait kjaro stacking is insane wtf i never stacked it

[spark pawn]

the one that goes 3 times

[high wasp]

Phase blink is the triple blink

[ruby cargo]

its as stupidly strong as AtG

[spark pawn]

yeah bands are a little busted

[uncut hatch]

no its not really
atgs still can be activated every second

[ruby cargo]

300% per stack is kinda

[gaunt yacht]

Never have or will play with them but overall sounds good

[empty current]

Do the same but with runalds, and double the amount

[leaden crag]

Wot does this have to do with my message
I'm saying triple blink is op as shit because it allowes you to literally never get hit using its mobility, not its iframes merc has nothing to do with this

[ruby cargo]

yea but they hit once while kjaros keeps hitting its really nice

[high torrent]

if bands were flat damage, would you value them as much?

[ruby cargo]

I love AtGs tho they are busted too

[gaunt yacht]

lol no

[spark pawn]

no way

[warped edge]

flat damage for a green is how you turn a green item into a grey item

[uncut hatch]

kjaros does like 75% per damage tick tho

[high torrent]

fair fair

[merry karma]

they could be a combination 😏

[high torrent]

hhhuh hmhmhm hmmm mm

[leaden crag]

Flat damage is just horrible 100% of the time

[gaunt yacht]

Shuriken is what a 120% dps up

is that a lot compared to atg

[merry karma]

cough cough

[high torrent]

atg is 30% increase

[spark pawn]

atg is like, 30% multiplicative

[warped edge]

no, atg will still proc a lot more lulw

[ruby cargo]

Ooooh i didnt read properly i jus tsaw the "300% TOTAL damage over time "

nvm AtGs are busted as fuck then

[high torrent]

and like

[gaunt yacht]

1.3x multiplier to dps

[uncut hatch]

also atg can proc on hit items with a coef of 1.0

[high torrent]

no one has 360 dps

[gaunt yacht]

with Shuriken I mean +120% linear

[warped edge]

shuriken is likely just early game atg

[merry karma]

suncles said shuriken is really good didnt he

[warped edge]

it is better if theres only less stack of it, but more stack atg wins at the end

[spark pawn]

it seems really good to me.

[leaden crag]

Shuriken stacks damage exponentially

[uncut hatch]

atgs are by far the best green item in most cases

[leaden crag]

It will always beat atg

[high torrent]

i dont think we can compare shuris to atgs

[spark pawn]

there's a lot of busted stuff in the dlc

[leaden crag]

Yea a lot of stuff is op as shit

[gaunt yacht]

dude the other green we saw is human dogshit

[spark pawn]

maybe. depends a lot on the character. some will do better with bands

[merry karma]

pauldron 2

[high torrent]

which one

[gaunt yacht]

I hope it's not the worst green item

[spark pawn]

i missed it

[high wasp]

The short movement speed boost after killing an enemy

[gaunt yacht]

1s speed boost on kill

[marble sage]

let's hope we'll need it for whatever the void brings

[uncut hatch]

this is true i guess

[spark pawn]

bruh..

[high torrent]

tf? what was that

[leaden crag]

It seems fine

[high wasp]

Green harpoon thing

[spark pawn]

how much speed though

[high torrent]

BRO

[warped edge]

opal is the slug, but designed for the "i hate melee range boohoo" artis

[leaden crag]

Broken arrowhead

[spark pawn]

reverse red whip

[iron plover]

it just seems like green-item-pool bloat

[warped edge]

good for them but i like playing arti with flamethromer

[leaden crag]

No opal is op on everything

[ruby cargo]

57 leaf clover affects stuff like AtG right

[leaden crag]

Especially on mithrix

[gaunt yacht]

1 second of decaying speed boost it's 5 stacks of a speed boost buff and you lose one every .2 seconds

[leaden crag]

Yes

[dire rivet]

its not great early on but it gets really good later when you're pretty much non stop killing enemies

[uncut hatch]

the predictability for bands is "if i hit hard, i hit harder" while atg is just is a good on hit item

[spark pawn]

yeah. we might have a bit of item bloat, which like, could make proc items a little bit worse

[high wasp]

I actually kind of like the green harpoon

[gaunt yacht]

But it doesn't add duration together or anything

[leaden crag]

Yea same

[iron plover]

you do a triple shrine of the mountain only to get 4 harpoons like 🗿

[gaunt yacht]

it's just 1 second after the latest kill

[uncut hatch]

for a lot of characters atgs will just be insane tho

[warped edge]

as long as it isnt 4 lepton or 4 chrono we good

[leaden crag]

Arnt the speed boosts individual stacks

[spark pawn]

4 chronobaubles..

[gaunt yacht]

5 stacks of a speed boost

[ruby cargo]

i got 53 topaz last time i hit a shrine of order

[high torrent]

pick up 3, scrap them, pick up 4th one

[leaden crag]

Could mess with dodging a lot

[high torrent]

boom op soup fuel

[merry karma]

the perfect balance of half greens being really good and half being shit will be preserved

[high wasp]

That wouldn’t be super bad, after killing an enemy you would have like 6-8 seconds of really good movement speed(I think I don’t remember the exact duration it gives per stack)

[ruby cargo]

nvm 52

[leaden crag]

If your speed is constantly changing

[uncut hatch]

atgs on loader are like runalds bands on commando

[spark pawn]

that's a few.

[ruby cargo]

a couple

[leaden crag]

What no wtf

[spark pawn]

true i love scrappers 😿

[warped edge]

loader can use both

[high torrent]

runalds on mando are pog

[leaden crag]

Atgs are total damage they are just as op on loaders

[uncut hatch]

yeah so can commando

[high torrent]

and you can proc some heavy missles with knuckleboom

[high wasp]

What

[leaden crag]

But waaaaaay less, they arnt comparable at all

[iron plover]

scrapper nerf when

[spark pawn]

i prefer bands on loader. weird analogy.

[gaunt yacht]

Every proc item is total damage, they're less reliable on railgunner/loader but when they happen they shred

[iron plover]

cry about it, etc

[uncut hatch]

one is more consistently powerful but the other is also powerful just less consistent

[ruby cargo]

just get insane attack speed on loader i think that is very funny.

[spark pawn]

bands are just more reliable

[uncut hatch]

not when you hit 10 times per second

[fast pecan]

true loaders deal all their damage through m1

[gaunt yacht]

Loader still hits multiple enemies yknow

[spark pawn]

well yea, for mando atgs are a lot better

[iron plover]

i have nostalgia for the old bands

[leaden crag]

Also loader has pylon

[rapid depot]

What the fuck happend im gd1?

[spark pawn]

pylon doesn't hit that much, it's more for utility

[ruby cargo]

Why is Mozarts Requiem playing

[uncut hatch]

no i agree but loader will never reach the proc rate of commando which is what makes his use of atgs so good

[high wasp]

Server is getting a reconstruction before SOTV, read uncles’s messages in gd1 and the feedback thread

[rapid depot]

Ah

Anyways, i became a pro slime rancher gamer

[tawdry ember]

show me your skills

in making slime milk

[spark pawn]

what

[uncut hatch]

loader can use atgs pretty well but the bands will likely be a better pick most of the time
while commando can get a pretty sizeable boost from bands but wont get the sheer power loader does and will instead opt for atgs

[iron plover]

uhm 🤓 please🤓 go🤓 to🤓 #other-games 🤓 🤓 🤓 this🤓 channel🤓 is🤓 for🤓 ror2🤓 discussion🤓 only🤓

[spark pawn]

only one skill of mando's kit can proc bands ye

[uncut hatch]

no phase round procs bands

[spark pawn]

ok that too.

[tawdry ember]

nrd

[spark pawn]

but otherwise everything of his kit can proc atg, i believe

[uncut hatch]

yes

and atgs can proc bands too

its really fun when you get 3 atgs and both bands as commando

[ruby cargo]

what of commando can trigger bands

[spark pawn]

nades and phase round with a few enemies

[primal sandal]

Ruin

[iron plover]

the only mando special

[high wasp]

Phase round(after piercing). and frag grenades on their own
Phase blast with 1 atg
Double tap with 2 or 3 atgs idk

[spark pawn]

commando's alt alt special.

[primal sandal]

Also hello spiritual gd1 i am back

[uncut hatch]

phase round can proc bands on the second enemy hit
and grenades can proc bands if you get the sweetspot near the center

[ruby cargo]

ive never tried the nades, phase rounds seem like too much trouble to consistently do

[high wasp]

Yeah

[iron plover]

god-discussion-1 real?

[spark pawn]

the nades are pretty nice

[ruby cargo]

i liked the default r tbh but i should try nades

[iron plover]

that's a mute! but i admire the tenacity

[high wasp]

Nades are very nice

[spark pawn]

probably not a good time for this

[brazen lark]

oh shit hold on

[iron plover]

you saw nothing

[dire rivet]

a wise choice

[primal sandal]

Nades might be a cool idea but they are attatched to mando do hard pass

[uncut hatch]

nades are tricky and harder to use against flying enemies but will end up doing significantly more damage when used well

[brazen lark]

GD1 is normal now right?

[rapid depot]

Got to the glass desert in 18 in game days

[brazen lark]

i mean gd2

not 1

[primal sandal]

When was gd1 ever normal

[ruby cargo]

yeah thats what I heard thats why i never used them

[brazen lark]

I MEANT GD2

[spark pawn]

weekdays at noon

[ruby cargo]

id rather just hit a bunch of shots in a row with the weak ass m1 than hope for the best

[tawdry ember]

so you're a speedrunner ok that's kinda good skills

[uncut hatch]

theres also a silly synergy with brilliant behemoth nades that make them explode several more times

[spark pawn]

you get used to nades after a bit

[ancient dirge]

I hate nades I hate nades i hate nades

[ruby cargo]

ill try when i do commando obliteration

[high wasp]

Banned

[ancient dirge]

[primal sandal]

Im still just too much on that modding crack rn to care about vanilla survivors, forks my beloved

[ruby cargo]

early game commando is just a pain in the ass

[iron plover]

mando slander will not be tolerated

[uncut hatch]

thoughts on sticky bombs?

[rapid depot]

Im not a speedruner,i haven't played this game in a year, and somehow i got there in such a short amount of time

[spark pawn]

nades kinda suck on console though. increased knockback.

[spark pawn]

hell yea

[primal sandal]

Ayo he stole my bungus get his ass

[uncut hatch]

im of the opinion that sticky bombs are one of the better damage items for characters

[spark pawn]

they're not one of the best but they're pretty good for sure

[ruby cargo]

i need to pick up sticky bombs more

[ancient dirge]

In my opinion, Crit goggles are better than sticky bombs

[ruby cargo]

id rather go for teddies until i have like 10-16

[gaunt yacht]

When will General-Discussion-1 release

[empty current]

Not bad

[ancient dirge]

After a few days

[spark pawn]

this is like, objectively true

[iron plover]

stickies are nice, i feel like i rarely get them nowadays

[ancient dirge]

Personal opinion though

[primal sandal]

S rank senator Armstrong as jetstream

[ruby cargo]

crit goggles are awesome they are my no1 item to pick up

[uncut hatch]

crits are more consistent than stickies but once you get enough sticky bombs the difference in overall effectivess is noticeable

[spark pawn]

crit can apply to almost everything while sticky has no proc coefficient, and has slightly less of a damage increase per stack.

[ruby cargo]

crit goggles + spinel + shaped glass <3

[spark pawn]

sticky only has like, aoe as an advantage i believe

[warped edge]

s🅱️inel

[spark pawn]

i still like it a lot but crit is crit

[primal sandal]

I dont know about you guys but i cant stop grabbing on captain

It just fits.

[warped edge]

alcoholism?

[gaunt yacht]

9% damage up with the mildest aoe vs 10% damage up with crit synergies

[uncut hatch]

my favorite thing with stickys is that it can turn atg damage into aoe damage reliably

[gaunt yacht]

just don't be Railgunner

[iron plover]

ayo spinel tonic is lean

[ancient dirge]

Drugs are known for their addictive properties afterall

[ruby cargo]

5% chance on-hot for sticky bombs for only 180% damage?

[uncut hatch]

180% total damage