gd2-nullified

[earnest patrol]

Quality of life, bug fixes, and balance changes will still be free as patches to the base game.

[leaden crag]

huh

very cool

[white gale]

I hate quality of life, bug fixes and balance changes

[earnest patrol]

Searching for this post was a struggle, I didn’t think it would be so old

[warm zinc]

my god, engi do be feeling the pain of beetle guards ruining his poor turrets (sometimes through bungus) 😢

[high torrent]

bro just put them on elevated surfaces

[dull ingot]

Question. Are Bison and Grovetender the only monsters that appear in one area? (And void fields)

[high torrent]

parents are exclusive to sky meadows too

[dull ingot]

Okay, but that is it, right?

[high torrent]

yeah that's it

[dull ingot]

Much appreciated! Thats very strange. I understand parent, but bison should be in plains after looping imo

[high torrent]

+++

enemy variety is crippled hard time

literally buying dlc just for the enemies and stages

will probably mod out everything else

[dull ingot]

I will die on the hill that Grovetender should be on Sundered Grove, that's my thing now

[high wasp]

he definitely should

[stone skiff]

Amazing

[fallow depot]

all i need are these achievements pog

just got thunderslam

i imagine in order of difficulty its probably incorruptible, sadist, B&E, capn mastery, merc mastery, seventh day, smushed

[nimble shore]

You mean easiest to hardest, or hardest to easiest

Hm according to Steam, Smushed is the hardest achievement (checks out) followed by Full of Life(????)

[tranquil star]

first e5 win!

the e5 headstompers redemption arc

[nimble shore]

12 Tougher Times

[tranquil star]

tt printer stage 5

[tulip marsh]

My first original meme

[fallow depot]

probably bc the low amount of people who play rex combined with it being an anniversary update achievement

and not as enticing to unlock fruits as it is

whoops ping

[nimble shore]

I suppose but like, healing 1000 health as REX honestly isn’t even difficult

[fallow depot]

i mean i love rex and i had to go out of my way to heal that much

[smoky charm]

Well I uh just finished mine first sucsussful monsoon skin?

[cerulean rapids]

i mean, it doesnt happen unless you purposefully go for it

[dull ingot]

happened for me on accident because i did a stupid aegis run

[stone junco]

cock balls

[burnt path]

aBunGUs

[stone skiff]

Even with better strats I still can't be good at videogames

Full looting seemed to work much better
Got a nice healing synergy, but 0 defensive options
In the end I got combo'ed by wisp chimera knocking me right into golem chimera's attack

[quartz saffron]

4 warbanners? what was your equip?

[stone skiff]

woodsprite

[quartz saffron]

you'll get'em next time

[burnt path]

oof

[unique kernel]

smushed is easy though???

sadist is definitely the hardest

[quartz saffron]

i mean with artifacts, not rly

i got sadist done in like 15 mins

[high wasp]

Day 11 of posting void leech until dev thoughts

[empty shard]

i'm starting to like captain a bit more now that i'm playing him more often

i used to not like playing him that much because i couldn't really get as much as i could out of the shotgun, but now i'm able to use it a lot better after knowing what i'm doing a little bit more

playing captain also makes me feel like syringes are even more insanely powerful than i initially thought

[primal sandal]

because they are, with captain syringes directly give you survivability via the funny bots

[quartz saffron]

atk speed is situtationally good or busted for survivors

like loader for example doesn't care, but commando is a simp for atk speed

[empty shard]

with loader it's more of a meme but with captain it's yummy

[primal sandal]

and they also apply on drones which makes the hacking beacon that more delicious

[empty shard]

also cap makes me feel like drones have way more of a purpose than dealing 90 damage on stage 6

[quartz saffron]

well if you're planning on using drones with anyone, they are best with cap

[primal sandal]

yup

[quartz saffron]

even regular turrets become much better

[empty shard]

i'm trying to beat e8 on captain now because i wanna get even better at him, but right now i think i'm only on 4, MAYBE 5

[primal sandal]

also unironically recommend using diablo strike on cap

[empty shard]

i still like default rockets because they're consistent and a nice quick dispatch for far away enemies

but i won't deny that diablo's really fun to mess with

[primal sandal]

also true. the only thing i can truly complain about cap's kit is the taser

[empty shard]

i don't have a problem with it because early game stuns are more powerful than most people let on + shotgun canceling is funny

but they don't scale well late game because attack speed can replace cancelling and it's damage and stun is far less important

[quartz saffron]

doing eclipse with cap was quite easy; microbots hard carry

especially on the moon, half the threats become a joke

[empty shard]

oh wait

i just remembered why i'm not on e5 with captain yet

[primal sandal]

honestly cap could technically make you worse at the game because he deletes 70% of the shit thrown at you

[empty shard]

a lunar exploder dealt like 250 damage in a single orb thing while i had maybe 800 max health

and then it attacked me again but hit me twice because i was caught off guard by a fodder enemy taking out a giant chunk of my health

[primal sandal]

solution: get more attack speed

[empty shard]

i know this stuff is just par for the course for ror2 but the only two times ive died to exploder, that time included, felt completely unfair

[empty shard]

i was doing the escape sequence

[primal sandal]

also stacking bleed on cap is some primo poggers shit

[empty shard]

true

but there wasn't much i could do

too bad i can't make daggers from thin air

[primal sandal]

may 3d printer gods bless ya

[empty shard]

also

this is a completely different tangent

is there a known system where enemies go through an rng table to calculate their damage (like doom and doom 2) alongside the scaling with levels and time and whatever

[merry karma]

damage is consistent

[empty shard]

because i'm pretty consistent with the amount of time i spent in my runs but i feel like enemies can do considerably different amounts of damage sometimes

like sometimes a flying lunar chimera won't be much of an issue beyond normal expected chip damage but other times it does like 80 damage per hit

[ionic perch]

despite cap being commando but better, you still die if you are unlucky with getting proc items

[merry karma]

the only thing that comes to my mind being rng is the director system - e.g. enemy type spawning, enemy placement, enemy count, interactable placement, interactable type, interactable count

[primal sandal]

shoutout to commando the crayon consumer

[ionic perch]

i honestly had more problems with cap than for example engineer both being on e8

[empty shard]

captain is a better but less consistent support oriented commando

typing this makes me feel like i can't even call captain similar to commando

[ionic perch]

imagine doing mithrix with an atg and 2 tritips

cool right

[ionic perch]

the only thing commando is significantly better at is speed

[tired axle]

eh, you don't need proc items to do damage, even stuff like on kills, or damage multipliers are more than enough

[empty shard]

bands :)

[ionic perch]

then you fall to mithrix

[tired axle]

true, forgot those existed tbh

[ionic perch]

but yeah before that you experience no problems if you have any aoe damaging item

[tired axle]

eh, not really, his ai is exploitable enough for you to never get hit, worst case scenario the fight takes a little longer

[ionic perch]

i am an eclipse player so i also prefer aoe over single target damage

[ionic perch]

the problem is killing him for a LONG while, not his ai

mithrix is very fair and i don't find his ai random as some people do

[tired axle]

there is also of course the whole diablo tech which allows you to skip the fight almost entirely, so

[empty shard]

honestly bands are a decently large reason why heavy damage characters succeed so much in all stages of the game

along with their kits just being really good and awesome, the bands provide a means of dealing even crazier damage in single hits, that damage also being less likely to be eaten by a weaker attack like an atg missile coming from a stack of 2 or 3

[ionic perch]

i would rather deal damage through the entire game than skip the final boss

[empty shard]

you mean launching yourself up or just using it to kill him?

[tired axle]

you can time his spawn animation with diablo's impact for phase 1 and 3

and yes, you can also skip the pillars

[primal sandal]

Which is why i love diablo strike

[ionic perch]

that is one of the reasons why arti performs significantly worse than any other character if she simply gets no bands before stage 3

[tired axle]

yeah, diablo is pretty fun, also makes teleporter events trivial if you decide to run at least 1 shock beacon

[ionic perch]

she still performs decently but worse than anyone else

[empty shard]

i will say though

arti fighting mithrix is hilarious

[ionic perch]

shift

[empty shard]

you can just freeze him for most of the time

[ionic perch]

bossfight done

[primal sandal]

Honestly confession i dont know how the shock beacon works and i have like 200 hours on the game

[ionic perch]

stuns like taser

[tired axle]

eh, flamethrower allows her to be decent enough with proc items, wouldn't say she's worse than any other survivor just cause you don't get bands

[empty shard]

as long as you're experienced enough to actually kill mithrix consistently then yeah ice good

[ionic perch]

alt r >> base r

[tired axle]

stuns for 6(?)s, but the stun breaks if you damage them enough

[tired axle]

ehhhh

[empty shard]

that's a gigantic can of worms

[ionic perch]

i would rather be able to kill mobs airborne than deal a bit more damage

[tired axle]

i mean, it's more than double the dps

[primal sandal]

gotcha and is it everyone in the circle or does it just fire at folks in the circle?

[tired axle]

"a bit" is a vast understatement

[empty shard]

yeah, consistently every second

[primal sandal]

might wanna start running hack and zap then

[empty shard]

so everything in it is shocked permanently pretty much

[ionic perch]

i still pick mobility and utility over damage

[tired axle]

everyone, so you can perma stun a group of mobs as long as you don't damage them

[primal sandal]

too busy playing as phoenix wright rn

[empty shard]

do keep in mind that shock beacon isn't insanely powerful because of its limited use to just one or two and it's limited and panicky use cases

[tired axle]

surprisingly, hacks time safe is actually way lower than you might expect when you do the math

[empty shard]

but it's still decently powerful

[primal sandal]

yeah but being able to hack the legendary chest and do other shit is a blessing <

[quartz saffron]

with the luck i get of failing chance shrines 4x in a row, it helps me

[tired axle]

even in the early stages it's only ~20s if you use it on a big chest / 2 small ones, which is kinda just nothing

[empty shard]

that time you save is very volatile due to enemy spawns being random

it can vary quite a bit depending on what you're even given

[quartz saffron]

the early part is always so boring, enemies not spawning

[primal sandal]

also free shrines of chance 🤤

[quartz saffron]

that's why is the best

[tired axle]

i wouldn't say random, the game always tries to spawn a small wave every ~5s and a big one every ~30s

the credit income of the director is also consistent, meaning the credits you get from the wave are as well

[empty shard]

i would take defiant gouge but it feels like a somewhat underwhelming change in gameplay that i just don't care enough for

and it's rare that i even consider taking it

[quartz saffron]

i like the extra money

[empty shard]

but maybe i should take it more, idk

[daring robin]

idk bro i think his ai is pretty corny, you play like an absolute weenie or just get evaporated from my experience

and melee survivors

[ionic perch]

am a merc main

no problems with mithrix whatsoever

[tired axle]

gouge has always been kinda weird to me, it gives way less money than brittle crown on most survivors, yet it seems to actually have a real downside, in the shrine enemies being able to kill you

[daring robin]

for me it kinda just devolves into why even try fighting him or even bobbing and weaving near him when you can just abuse his ai to make him never touch you

[quartz saffron]

i especially like taking gouge in multiplayer

even if i keep failing and thus using up my money, others will still get more from the spawned monsters

[daring robin]

especially with like no mobility items you just gotta be corny corny or he will just run up on you and decide you're gonna die halfway through

[empty shard]

also different survivors can have their own methods of dodging mithrix's attacks

i don't really like abusing his ai or anything like that and i try to fight him as normal as possible, but i will say that dodging mithrix's hammer as huntress by dashing INTO his general direction is pretty fun

[daring robin]

idk i tried with a lotta survivors

some just don't feel very good at all with base mobility fighting him

[empty shard]

i feel like most if not almost every run will have some kind of item that helps dodge enemies in some way, even if it's super fringe

like even a red whip has its uses every now and then

[daring robin]

yeah but damaging him at all will make that one stop

unless you wanna make a huge gap then attack rinse and repeat

but that sounds about as corny as the ai abuse tbh

[tired axle]

eh, the chance that you actually end up with base mobility is like really low, except when rushing maybe

[daring robin]

i usually do it first loop

[empty shard]

it just takes careful planning with items whenever you have authority over what you actually have in order to get the most out of your mobility

like prioritize movement in multi shops or look for purple utility chests and buy those first

[tired axle]

well yeah, loop 1 with 80+ items; there's a low chance you don't have mobility

[empty shard]

stuff like that

[daring robin]

80 in loop 1?

[empty shard]

loop 1???

[tired axle]

yeah, a normal amount when full clearing

[empty shard]

who?

[daring robin]

that uh

doesn't seem right from my general experience

what kind of time are you making with that many items?

[empty shard]

i get around 60 when i full clear i don't know where 80's coming from

[tired axle]

average item gain for me is ~2/min from testing

[empty shard]

so every 2 minutes you get an item

[tired axle]

every minute i get 2 items

well, ~2, the early stages will of course result in less

[daring robin]

huh wait

[empty shard]

you mean to tell me that an hour long run, a roughly stage 6 run, will result in 120 items??

[daring robin]

playing with artifacts? i haven't really messed with them so maybe swarm lets you stack more bread fast

[empty shard]

my eclipse runs say otherwise

even my god runs contradict that

it's either you're insanely lucky and the directors love you or i'm just dumb

[tired axle]

well, eclipse does have reduced credit income from regular monsoon

[empty shard]

maybe it's both

[quartz saffron]

hm, checked an old game, had 70 items there after beating mith

[tired axle]

also, swarms would result in more credits/s, but i don't use any artifacts normally

[quartz saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901453834256404/884895006412922960/20210907221548_1.jpg

afaik it was mostly fc each stage

[tired axle]

i still hate that the items collected counter also counts the items mithrix returns btw

[empty shard]

hold up does scrap count as an item collected

[ionic perch]

the more you play the less unfair he gets

[bitter shoal]

just did some math and ror2 makes up 9.6% of my week. i think i have an addiction lol

[ionic perch]

took me like 400h of playtime to become able to kill him consistently with any setup

[empty shard]

i think you might possibly

how many damn hours do you have

[daring robin]

i mean i can kill him reliably

it just ain't very fun

[tired axle]

yeah, the counter is kinda useless, even printers and stuff counts

[ionic perch]

i don't like loops so i almost always go mith

[tired axle]

also, i feel that, i kinda just go for obliterations nowadays

[empty shard]

my best run of all time had an item counter of 3.5k

i think it counted the 270 printed psg's and the probably 200 runald's bands AND all the batteries that were made to get the blast shower to work

[daring robin]

you don't get coins for beating mithrix and winning right? you just gotta obliterate?

[empty shard]

both give coin

[ionic perch]

you get coins for mithrix

10 to be exact

[daring robin]

oh ok so more than normal obliterate

and i think as many as beads? i forgor

[ionic perch]

beads give 15 in total if you kill TScavenger successfully

[tired axle]

beads is 5+ 10 from the bag

[ionic perch]

but they also take at least 1 lunar coin to be able visit the moment, whole

[tired axle]

so, basically don't ever do it in multiplayer

[ionic perch]

i really don't get why so much more people prefer loops over mithrix

[empty shard]

you do big damage and your items become more potent

[daring robin]

the novelty of bigger number kinda wore off fast tho

[empty shard]

most people really like that, including me

[empty shard]

it's not much about the number, but for me at least i just wanna push the game so hard that it literally starts to break

[ionic perch]

at some point you become invincible and cannot die where you just stand at the tp 80% of time (even with convergences)

[daring robin]

those kinda runs weren't really fun for me either for that reason ^

[ionic perch]

i like mithrix because it is just a duel to the death, may the best man win

[empty shard]

which is why i tried to see what would happen in a stage 100 run

[ionic perch]

scavs

[empty shard]

and it ended in enemies having the 32 bit integer limit being displayed as their health

[daring robin]

need me a melee survivor who can parry so i can show mithrix what a casual he is

[empty shard]

don't worry, the new melee centric character railgunner will fit that role perfectly

[ionic perch]

i don't get why people experience much problems with melee survivors considering every single one has a "winning condition"

[daring robin]

i mean i like em

cept for acrid but he's barely melee anyway xd

[stone skiff]

Third time's the charm ig

[daring robin]

but a parry on one would be dope

[stone skiff]

I hate how op that run was, doesn't really feel right

[quartz saffron]

essence on stage1? that's lucky

[ionic perch]

did you reroll newt shop

[quartz saffron]

oh wait that's after beating mith

[upper rock]

I like looping but I don’t go long enough to get to that point.

[stone skiff]

ye

[stone skiff]

no, everything came from lunar pods

[ionic perch]

merc requires one because he is literally Raiden from MGR and MGR is all about parrying

[empty shard]

everyone has their own differing amounts experience in the game along with their general abilities to perform well with different kits

naturally some people will be great at melee and can probably pick it up pretty quickly while many other players will end up not playing them as often because they aren't used to it, or because they aren't experienced enough to fully utilize them to the point of being truly fun to play

[ionic perch]

merc even has cybernetic enhancements as a passive ability which is literally the same thing that raiden has

[empty shard]

then again ive played this game for so long that it's hard for me not to like the melee characters

[stone skiff]

Also, it's the third run in a row where I get to benefit from death mark, so that's cool

[empty shard]

+elder lemurians

^big melee counter

[ionic perch]

sometimes people just don't understand that

as acrid you don't go melee
as merc you abuse iframes
as loader you use utility when mith is open for a hit

elder lemurians also are fair enough to barely get hit from those unless you get the lemurian event

it all comes with playtime

[empty shard]

how much time do you have in the game because plenty of people wouldn't call elders very fair

[empty shard]

i'm honestly just curious because you sound pretty experienced

[ionic perch]

my opinion is not reliable because of that

[empty shard]

sorry is that

1.1k

[ionic perch]

yes

[empty shard]

how do you sink that much time

into funny rougelike

[ionic perch]

game is awesome

[high torrent]

yeah it's hard to lose with essence and crunder

[ionic perch]

also eclipse gaming

[high torrent]

you just do

[quartz saffron]

it's a rougelike, the whole point is having good replayability

[empty shard]

i'm guessing you've already done e8 on everyone

[high torrent]

also mods and hours waiting for friends in lobby

[ionic perch]

i personally think that content mods are boring

[high torrent]

it's pretty easy
esp if you dont have nothing else to play

[ionic perch]

coop is the only thing now that keeps me playing before dlc comes out

[high torrent]

items mods that are right now are pretty ass

[empty shard]

@ionic perch

[ionic perch]

i did

[high torrent]

and the character flood is eeeeeeee

[ionic perch]

and i can say that only eclipses that ACTUALLY make you struggle are 5-7

ESPECIALLY 5

[upper rock]

Sadly this is pretty true

[high torrent]

healing items when you rather just dont get hit

[quartz saffron]

i just used trans for the most part

[ionic perch]

you do get hit eventually because mobs are fast enough to crowd up

[high torrent]

eclipse is just about emphasis on dodging and idk about it

the same ascension in the slay the spire is just more interesting

[empty shard]

for me e4 is when the difficulty begins to ramp up because i can no longer ignore enemies on large stages :(
e5 and beyond is kinda hell for me

[ionic perch]

e8 is greatly overrated

[high torrent]

you dont even get curse from chip damage for most of the time

[ionic perch]

most people that say e8 is scary haven't even touched the curse debuff to understand how little the impact is from it

[empty shard]

i beat eclipse 8 on mul-t and i'm honestly kinda proud of that, i haven't dont it on anyone else yet but i really want to

[high torrent]

e7 alloy worship

[empty shard]

die

[ionic perch]

e7 alloy worship gaming

2-3 seconds window to deal damage

[empty shard]

perma shield gaming

[ionic perch]

or you just pick merc and slam

which is difficult yet can get consistent

[empty shard]

space jam mercenary

[ionic perch]

and that's what you don't want to do

[daring robin]

i wanna high five the skybox

[ionic perch]

i just remembered this thing exists

[daring robin]

mmm pizza pie

[empty shard]

maybe chip off 30 hours for waiting in lobbies and pausing the game

[ionic perch]

300 hours spent on merc gaming

somehow

[quartz saffron]

was that after his changes or before?

[ionic perch]

open logbook go to

[empty shard]

ive mained mul-t ever since i started playing on the 1.0 release and i think i have 18.4% of my runs on him

[empty shard]

i really like trying out all the different kits

[ionic perch]

+3-4 test profiles

[empty shard]

can't rn because phone :(

[ionic perch]

after

i started playing when 1.0 came out

and i once played with a mod that adds pre-changed merc and he sucked

[empty shard]

wait so we've been playing for the same amount of like days

[ionic perch]

expose is awesome

[empty shard]

but you have like 500 more hours

[ionic perch]

more or less

[quartz saffron]

i don't think i have 1k hours but i started not long after early access release

[empty shard]

what a gamer

[ionic perch]

i just don't have anything else to do

[empty shard]

man i can only imagine why engineer, the antithesis to mercenary, is nearly your least played character with a difference of probably 2 picks

what a mystery

[ionic perch]

at least 8 picks because eclipse

[empty shard]

oh yeah true

[ionic perch]

times picked: 59

[empty shard]

what about with heretic

[ionic perch]

lmao

that's heretic but you can't really pick her

[empty shard]

my highest damage dealt is 132.3 trillion, which is probably at least in the top 4% of damage in a single hit

[ionic perch]

glass gaming

[empty shard]

what the hell did

[empty shard]

oh nvm lol

[ionic perch]

13 digits

[empty shard]

my chart is that but mercenary

[quartz saffron]

i have done nothing but stacked glass for 3 days

[empty shard]

1-9 trillion damage

[ionic perch]

9,9

[empty shard]

congratulations you're now a part of the top 10% of players, which counts for something somewhere along with the people who've probably broken past the trillions

[ionic perch]

almost 14 digits nvm

[empty shard]

nearly 10 trillion is still great

i pretty much got mine through 300+ runald's and insane procs on my longest run ever

it was on merc too

(confirmed best character)

honestly though who do you think is the best

@ionic perch

[ionic perch]

merc

actually no

mult but merc is best in terms of fun

[empty shard]

best character for me is definitely mul-t without a question

[ionic perch]

most consistent character that ALWAYS has damage, mobility and can literally say "fuck you" to incoming damage

[empty shard]

everything about him is so powerful and it's decently accessible too

double nailgun on power mode is basically the go to option for a free run now

but i highly prefer power mode with saw and nail or completely defaul nail + rebar cycling

[ionic perch]

only thing mult lacks is just 1 aoe item

once you get it you are pretty much unstoppable

[empty shard]

nail and rebar on retool is a timeless classic for me

what do you think of it

[ionic perch]

nail and saw gaming

[empty shard]

for retool?

[ionic perch]

yes

[empty shard]

yeah fair enough, that's a nice combo too

[high torrent]

everything works really

[ionic perch]

or double rebar for retool or double nails for power mode for obv reasons

[high torrent]

was running that before anniversary too

now just kinda came back to default, sometimes swappin nail for saw or scrap instead of rebar

[ionic perch]

i remember someone said mult is "literally unplayable now" because they increased the delay between shots of rebar so you couldn't just hold r

[high torrent]

cant go wrong on mult

[empty shard]

i don't like double rebar as much because they changed it slightly after anniversary, so not it feels more cumbersome to use

could just be me but regardless it feels different now

[ionic perch]

with double rebars that is

[high torrent]

but you still can tap it jhejhejhejhej

[ionic perch]

BUT FUN FACT it is fixed by literally any attack speed up

[high torrent]

and a single syringe makes so you just can hold it again

but like eeaheha there so much more combination that are just way more fun than double rebar retool and can do so much things

[empty shard]

also i was never a huge fan of double rebar to begin with because i can't get rid of the utility of nail + rebar

[high torrent]

like bro power mode double rebar

https://youtu.be/BYlZb6pt3cw

[ionic perch]

oh also i need your opinion on a bullshit statement that someone recently told me

[empty shard]

hm

[ionic perch]

"gasoline sucks like pick 10 gasoline and it still won't do a thing even at stage 4"

how more wrong can someone possibly be

[high torrent]

i mean

gaso is like 3 commando shots worth damage that doesnt proc anything

you need some crowbars to help gaso clear wisps

[ionic perch]

you meet a crowd of mobs

you pick gasoline

[high torrent]

dude that's placebo

[empty shard]

gasoline is really good as an AOE especially early game where there's a ton of clustered mobs

[high torrent]

i used to be like this too

[ionic perch]

suddenly you deal that x3 commando shots to everyone around + debuff

[high torrent]

gaso feels nice because vfx looks good

[empty shard]

like yeah it's not fantastic but it's nice early game

[quartz saffron]

budget wisp

[high torrent]

it just doesnt add up

[ionic perch]

but it certainly is bullshit to say that 10 gas does nothing at stage 4

[high torrent]

better off with many other whites

[empty shard]

later on, like wayyy later on, it can help you instantly summon alloy worship unit if you care about that

[empty shard]

true

[ionic perch]

of course if you get like no other items then gas does nothing but it is a helpful thing

[high torrent]

jelly clear

[ionic perch]

i can also pick like 100 clovers at stage 4 and they will only make me crit

bad item question mark

[empty shard]

yeah 57 leaf clover is the worst item in the game, worse than monster tooth and worse than squid polyp

[ionic perch]

implying i get no other items than just 100 clovers

polyp is good

let me find a clip

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569744851516653568/935884969514000394/polyp.mp4.mp4

[empty shard]

is it one where there's like a stack of 30 and then they become machine guns

[ionic perch]

yeah

squid polyp kills mithrix almost solely by itself

almost because i did like 3 cap shots

[empty shard]

the only problem is how much it takes to actually get there

[ionic perch]

just get mountain shrines and polyps

sadge

[empty shard]

you need to be really lucky with printers and stuff + leaning on a single green is very risky

[high torrent]

man polyp is pretty damn aight
i remember sitting in a call with a friend who's gamer insane, asked me why i hard focus wood shrines
then i just lured some elder lems into my polyp trap

[empty shard]

but if it does work i can see how powerful it can be

for me it's too inconsistent for me to try to go for it at all, and i usually stick to just one or two or just scrap it for another green

[ionic perch]

it is just that most of the time you can make a red item out of polyps than just a turret

[vast jetty]

That's one polyp :0

[ionic perch]

if you are refering to the video above, that's 9 stacks but 1 turret

nvm it is 7

[vast jetty]

Does Captain heal aoe beat polyp death?

[high torrent]

anniversary update making so drones and other allies scale with ambient level was pretty huge

[ionic perch]

probably

[high torrent]

i could check rq

[empty shard]

what would you guys call a truly F tier item, because ive noticed that more and more items have become useful to me when they previously seemed nearly useless. some examples being psg, red whip, planula, and interstellar desk plant (why do people say it's bad??)

[ionic perch]

i don't think there is one

[high torrent]

convergence

[ionic perch]

nvm there is
happiest mask

convergence god-tier

[high torrent]

aegis on first loop

30 second tp time save, god tier

[empty shard]

i mean overall

[ionic perch]

bro with just 1 polyp you don't even lose much range

[high torrent]

pauldron with its 4 enemies requirement

[ionic perch]

just play eclipse2+ lol

then you get used to the range and can pick convergence to save time

[magic burrow]

any idea who the second character might be? or are we completely in the dark here

[ionic perch]

snoop dogg

[vast jetty]

Thing is: I pretty much just play eclipse where any healing is f tier

[ionic perch]

post e5 that is

rex sucks there the most

[vast jetty]

Compared to literally just getting transcendence

[ionic perch]

i don't reroll newt shops and sometimes don't get transcendence

[empty shard]

transcendence is a pretty decisive pick honestly, even with reduced healing i feel like the funny beetle isn't an instant pick whatsoever with me

[ionic perch]

i don't reroll newt shops because having 9999999999999 coins and rerolling the shop removes the difficulty

[vast jetty]

On eclipse it has two purposes

It negates fall damage

And heal is cut multiple times over

[ionic perch]

just /2

[vast jetty]

+permanent

[empty shard]

but i think that a real F tier item would be the volcanic egg, it's just so underwhelming and there's so many more other options for damage that are considerably easier to come by

[ionic perch]

volcanic egg is good

[empty shard]

the one use i can see for it is it's easy mobility

[tired axle]

eh, egg has pretty decent mobility

[ionic perch]

and vertical mobility

that's it but being to fly up for 5 seconds is awesome

[high torrent]

cant agree, good traversal and dodging capabilites, can proc bands too

[ionic perch]

recycler unironically A-tier

[vast jetty]

S tier

[tired axle]

also pretty good at clearing wisps if you don't happen to have gasoline or smth similar

[high torrent]

recycler is command lite

[ionic perch]

i love seeing glands rerolled into literally anything else

[tired axle]

also, yeah, rerolls in roguelites are almost always S tier

[vast jetty]

What epuipment could possibly be better than recycler

Don't say crowdfunder

[high torrent]

yup, healing beacon keeps them alive forever

[ionic perch]

depends on the character

[vast jetty]

:0 imma do a polyp build Captain run

[empty shard]

forgot that crowdfunder exists

i hate that thing way more than egg

[tired axle]

funny 1500% dps

[vast jetty]

Gd1 says it's the best equipment

[ionic perch]

risk of rain 2 if you could reroll regular pearls into irradiants

[empty shard]

because my money gone

[high torrent]

yeah sucks out all the fun out of mithrix fight

[vast jetty]

They're lying

[high torrent]

you just win, you dont have any other choice

[empty shard]

that would be incredibly broken in the best way possible

[ionic perch]

gd1 is not reliable and is very based

no offence to people from gd1

[empty shard]

all offense

[vast jetty]

Gd1 is annoying

[high torrent]

yeah should be a lunar equipment

[ionic perch]

also quick question

[empty shard]

wha

[tired axle]

based on what though?

[high torrent]

gd1 is based

very

[ionic perch]

eviscerate or slicing winds and why you prefer it

[empty shard]

memes and one shared brain cell

[vast jetty]

I can see saying railgunner needs nerfs but writing essays about it before she's even out? Sheesh

[ionic perch]

based on popular opinions not effectiveness

[empty shard]

eviscerate because of its mobility and very very helpful i-frames

i'm also more used to using it

[tired axle]

i like being permanently invincible

[ionic perch]

gd2 is ruled by strength not comitee

[high torrent]

i like slicing winds more because funny aoe, unrestrained movement and more cdr, evis feels a bit clunky to me
but both work

[vast jetty]

Slicing winds because I get to keep hitting the enemies and get my sweet sweet Mark

[tired axle]

i.e. WW BA SW

[ionic perch]

oh so that guy that said evis is shit is wrong twice because he also said literally everyone prefers slicing winds

[empty shard]

that's just wrong

[high torrent]

not really

[empty shard]

both are used because both are good for their own reasons

[high torrent]

simply less damage

damage > anything else really

[ionic perch]

i prefer evis because 1.5 secs of invinc is better than slightly more damage and no mobility

[vast jetty]

Evis is a lot easier

[ionic perch]

key word "SLIGHTLY"

[high torrent]

slightly is an understatement lmao

[vast jetty]

A whole lot closer to pre-rework merc

[vast jetty]

Who was braindead

[tired axle]

it's 3x more damage, and also more invincibility if you know how to rotate

[ionic perch]

it is not if you use expose applying thing

[tired axle]

also evis is 1.6s of invincibility

[ionic perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674106104992628746/939057535556677713/prikol.mp4 this one

[high torrent]

we know how to extend expose

[vast jetty]

You can do that with slicing winds too

And you get two exposes

Melts bosses

[ionic perch]

you can apply expose with literally any attack but some people just don't know it

[tired axle]

i am aware of the extension, but permanent invincibility is still more than 1.6s every 4s

[ionic perch]

with base util you can get it up to permanent

easily in fact

[vast jetty]

Nah that was just before the rework, but it's still close now

[ionic perch]

with alt util just just apply expose with expose abuse and then alt util does its main thing

bam no cd

[vast jetty]

Before the rework Merc was just a braindead push all buttons -> win machine

[ionic perch]

before rework merc was kinda boring

when they invented expose everyone hated on merc because skill issue

i ALSO hated this character until i picked him like 6 times

literally

[vast jetty]

He's the hardest of the melees

Although loader really do be having some movement tech tho

[ionic perch]

hardest character in general but that doesn't make him bad

[uncut hatch]

Oh yeah now that he is actually punished for getting hit and being out of position hes more fun

[vast jetty]

I still resist calling him this, just because since you're still invincible most of the time it's like

Not that hard

Just animation cancels and Target prio really

[uncut hatch]

I frames are a huge benefit

[ionic perch]

bro merc is the only character i never died with on all eclipses

literally 8/8 streak

and i didn't have overpowered builds

why would someone call raiden 2 bad

[vast jetty]

Did you obliterate or do mithrix?

[uncut hatch]

You cant obliterate in eclipse

[ionic perch]

you cannot obliterate in eclipse

this is why i love the gamemode

[vast jetty]

Ha right

[ionic perch]

besides going loop with this is just ridiculously dumb

[vast jetty]

I've never tried so that's good

[ionic perch]

death speedrun any%

[high torrent]

obliteration when i forgot to remove a bandaid final stage

[vast jetty]

I've only done eclipse 8 on bandit Captain huntress and commando so far

Working on Rex rn

[ionic perch]

i also like this channel because there isn't that OPEN THE FLOODGATES thing that gd1 kinda has

[high torrent]

too active

[ionic perch]

nerves rest in pieces post-e5

[vast jetty]

Or how they just constantly complain about March content update

[high torrent]

uncles started banning everyone back n forth this morning

maybe it'll get quieter

[smoky charm]

How did you do that

[ionic perch]

guys can you explain i am eating currebtly

[high torrent]

timed the utility right after the third hit

[smoky charm]

Cool,

[vast jetty]

In the startup of the third hit press an ability

The third hit is uncanceled so they both come out

[smoky charm]

Hunh

Nice I’ll try that out rn

[high torrent]

right when merc starts the third slash, tap that utility button and you will drag the exposing hitbox with yourself, exposing everything thats on your way

very based thing

[smoky charm]

Very based indeed

[high torrent]

you can do it with any skill that moves you

[vast jetty]

Which is every skill

Except heresy

[high torrent]

me when people take visions on merc

[vast jetty]

Visions is just pretty bad

I only get it on acrid

Cause he's not melee

[tired axle]

ew

[smoky charm]

I never get herecy items, unless I want to run heretic

[vast jetty]

I get right click on a lot of chars

Hooks is just really Good

[tired axle]

funny 3500% damage on a 5s cooldown

[ionic perch]

oh my fucking god

i am dying

[trail finch]

Occasionally I’ll take visions on artificer, acrid, or loader

Visions is kinda just mediocre

Strides is rarely worth taking

Hooks is pretty good tho

[rose lagoon]

visions is good on chars with a shitty m1

example: engineer

[trail finch]

Essence is really good on commando

[rose lagoon]

yeah

[ionic perch]

kinda an obvious thing

[misty ingot]

Man, I'd love an alt Engineer m1

[lethal sky]

i wish i could use visions normally on engie

[tranquil star]

what do you mean? @lethal sky

[smoky charm]

Funny

[tranquil star]

dies from cringe

[quiet trench]

Visions effects the turrets

[nimble shore]

Yeah but that’s a good thing

It’s a very sizable damage and proc rate boost for both of them

[quiet trench]

No it isn’t

[nimble shore]

What, you think it must be bad just because it has a cooldown?

[tired axle]

🦀 math is dead 🦀

[quiet trench]

Gaus turrets are negatively effected, and carbonizors, while getting better aim and damage, lose their slow and constant laser

[nimble shore]

🦀

[tired axle]

what's gaus' dps?

[nimble shore]

It’s like 300%-400% DPS for both iirc, somewhere in that neighborhood

I think closer to 300%

Nvm it’s closer to 200%

[tired axle]

both are 200%dps actually, gaus are ~3 shots per second for 70% each and carbonizer are 5/s for 40% each

[nimble shore]

Meanwhile Hungering Gaze is 125% x 12 on a 2s cooldown, and even if you assume it takes a full 2s to fire (which is longer than it actually takes) it’s still twice as much DPS lmao

[tired axle]

i was asking them specifically because i wanted to figure out why they think what they think

[nimble shore]

My guess is that people get turned off automatically because Hungering Gaze has a cooldown and so the turrets do sporadic bursts of powerful fire instead of continuous

[tired axle]

it's 1.5s to fire at base AS btw

[nimble shore]

Also Hungering Gaze has bad game feel

If you’re not watching the enemy’s HP drop then it does feel shitty

[quiet trench]

The reload makes it less

Base turrets have constant fire

[nimble shore]

No it doesn’t

[tired axle]

would you mind explaining your math?

[nimble shore]

125 x 12 / (2 + 1.5) = 500% DPS

[quiet trench]

Yeah maybe at level 1 with no items, but late game it sucks ass

[nimble shore]

Which is 2.5 times the base amount

[merry karma]

its worse at 2.95 attack speed, or 13 syringes

[nimble shore]

“Late it game it sucks ass”
It has more procs than the base fire

[quiet trench]

My man, thank you

[tired axle]

yeah, here's the exact graph

though 13 syringes isn't something you get too often in normal runs unless if you're running command, i'd argue

[nimble shore]

13 syringes is absolutely an edge case unless you play Command

[quiet trench]

“More” procs, it’s an extra 0.1 per shot

There’s other attack speed boosters

[nimble shore]

Why are you so adamant that Visions of Heresy is bad, just accept that it’s generally good unless you go out of your way to get triple your base attack speed

[quiet trench]

I’m adamant that getting it on engineer is bad

[slim tinsel]

People actually are defending hungering gaze on engi, cringe🤡

[quiet trench]

Having your damage on a slow burst can also get you killed when fighting low level enemies

[tired axle]

i mean, it isn't too big of a surprise that they're getting defensive, considering you have been pretty rude throughout this argument and have also kinda just assumed what their points are instead of actually trying to listen to them

also, i would still argue that 1 lunar item to replace 13 whites worth of attackspeed is a decent deal

and you do still have harpoons and mines if you really need something for immediate damage

[quiet trench]

Harpoons aren’t fast but they are damage, I prefer shield

[tranquil star]

Uses shield over harpoons
Says visions sucks on engi because it’s less DPS if you triple your attack speed

[opaque sigil]

Morning

[tranquil star]

thank you for reminding me i need to beat mgr

[quiet trench]

Whatever, I’m not gonna sit here and be yelled at

Hope you all have a good day

[opaque sigil]

Np, and have a good say

[tranquil star]

if anything, we’re trying to help you out by telling you that visions is a good take on engi and harpoons are way better than bubble shield

[quiet trench]

If you knew how to actually have a conversation that’d be the truth

[hybrid vault]

bubble shield is (not the good kind)

[tranquil star]

aren’t you the guy who supposedly just left? wouldn’t that make you someone who doesn’t want to have a conversation?

[slim tinsel]

I’d say bubble shield is better for void fields, but who still goes to void fields anymore

[tranquil star]

it’s a bit hypocritical

[nimble shore]

“Visions on Engineer is bad”
“Here’s math to support why it’s generally pretty good actually”
“Well this edge case exists and proves it’s bad”

[mystic oxide]

Visions is okay

If you get to set up the Nakarena then you’re mostly relying on skulls anyways

Especially if you do Gesture + Fuel cell stacking on Foreign fruit

[tired axle]

macarena

[little python]

So, I've never laughed as hard as I have than watching someone hip fire railgunners supercharger

I'm also still going with my bet of "void paladin" for the 2nd character reveal

[dull ingot]

i hope new character is Acrid 2 :)

[chilly bay]

Guys the new character is Tharson, duh.
"And so he left, OK from this encounter"

[vast jetty]

Does visions apply to the turrets?

[tired axle]

yes, it doubles their dps

[vast jetty]

🤔

Visions fugly tho

Also I want that beetle paladin concept

Someday

[little python]

Maybe the 2nd character is a spooky eye that let's you control enemies

[vast jetty]

Actually it's just spectator mode

Obviously

[little python]

Ah, true, true

[opaque sigil]

Gd1 is hell so ima just hang here

[tranquil star]

good choice

gd1 is oversaturated meme hell

[opaque sigil]

True

Mfs talking about femboys and crap

Cant wait to try and beat the game on monsoon with bandit today

Still havent been able to do it, been trying for about 2 days(?)

[tranquil star]

it will be done today

[opaque sigil]

I believe I can do it

If I cant I always got tomorrow

[earnest radish]

hello fellow GD1 refugees

[dull ingot]

hello

[primal sandal]

when isnt gd1 hell

[slim tinsel]

When huntress is a viable character

[dull ingot]

dat ass doe

oh come on don't emoji me

[opaque sigil]

[tranquil star]

[dull ingot]

okay fine it was stupid of me

redemption arc

Thank you for your consideration

anyway, I think I'll try to turn mul-t into a shopping trolley

[full nest]

So this lava beetle used a geyser and left a trail of fire in the air, while I got booped into that same geyser;
I died in a trail of a lava beetle that way

[opaque sigil]

Either way I was wondering if I should get phoenix wrights mastery skin after I get bandits

[full nest]

fuck this fucken game, sometimes

[primal sandal]

phoenix wright mod has no right to be as good as he is lmao

[high wasp]

Can you send a picture of his skills and stuff, I’m curious about what his abilities actually are

[primal sandal]

lemme pop up the game rq

[opaque sigil]

I cant until I get home

Oops wrong reply sorry

[opaque sigil]

Cant until I get home

[high wasp]

Aight

[opaque sigil]

Wish soldier had a mastery skin tbh

Hes a broken character yet pretty fun

[primal sandal]

turnabout mode p much make m1 and m2 more powerful with m1 actually firing projectiles that go in a straight line

[opaque sigil]

Havent hit that yet

Is it permanent or temporary

[primal sandal]

permanent

and it even plays a song out of the ace attorney ost during the stage where you get it

[opaque sigil]

Dope, now I know how to beat the game with him

Based

[primal sandal]

the house also seems like an absolute meme or god

i dont even know how he works im just intimidated by the sheer choice

[carmine gyro]

The house is really funny

[opaque sigil]

Mod link pls

I need this

[carmine gyro]

Loadout doesn't let you choose abilities by the way

It's just so you can look what cards do

[primal sandal]

https://thunderstore.io/package/JavAngle/TheHouse/

[opaque sigil]

Im downloading this when I get home

[primal sandal]

W h a t.

[opaque sigil]

Ill set an alarm

[carmine gyro]

You can't do anything in the house's loadout

You can just look what each card does

[high wasp]

So is decisive evidence just a random chance?

[primal sandal]

so at any point there is a 1/6 chance i just die

[opaque sigil]

So how would you use his abilities?

[carmine gyro]

Yeah if you use that card

[primal sandal]

it cycles every 4 shots i think

[high wasp]

Oh aight

[primal sandal]

its the knife and phone its even indicated by green checkmarks

[carmine gyro]

If you don't want to kill yourself on accident just don't use that card

[opaque sigil]

Do you get to choose the cards you use

Or is it just random

[primal sandal]

ill be sure to check him out tomorrow then

[carmine gyro]

I mean there's at least a few more cards that can end your run but the others arent a literal instant kill

You can use all cards in the run

[primal sandal]

also shoutout to my homeboy henry

[carmine gyro]

Your m2, shift and r are replaced with random cards

[opaque sigil]

Interesting

[earnest radish]

what’s the primary?

[carmine gyro]

Every time you use a card the current hand is replaced by another one

So the best way to play it is to avoid lame purple cards and keep using good ones

[opaque sigil]

Ill use Russian roulette

[primal sandal]

they literally made rng into a character

[carmine gyro]

I've actually hit the Russian roulette nuke a lot of times

But I also killed myself a lot too so I stopped using that card

[primal sandal]

but yeah it just seems like hes most about remembering what the cards even do

[carmine gyro]

It's not hard

Cards are very easy to remember other than the bullet ones

I keep forgetting what basic cards do

[primal sandal]

from a quick glance its nice that they color coded it to red/gray = good, purple = bad, green = chance

[carmine gyro]

I remember all the actual "ability" ones tho

Purple cards aren't exactly bad but most of them are

There's only like 1 purple card that doesn't end your run immediately

[primal sandal]

oh dear lord he does not reload manually

[carmine gyro]

Doesn't matter every card gives bullets

[primal sandal]

and even the shots are rng based because it doesnt cycle like a proper revolver

[carmine gyro]

Just don't shoot if you see purple bullets

Use cards until you get a cycle with no purple bullets

Fire all of them and use another card

Or just be me and spam cards for free shit

[primal sandal]

OKAY

[carmine gyro]

Just remember to never use russian roulette and the tower 💀

The tower is a meme specifically but it's likely to end your run

[primal sandal]

[carmine gyro]

Wild card is also a meme but it's less run ender

Wild card can get you some overloading malachite worms stage 1

Or perfected aurelionite

[opaque sigil]

What

[carmine gyro]

While the tower guarantees spawn umbra mithrix phase 4 up your ass or start stage detonation sequence

[opaque sigil]

Wtf are perfected and umbra enemies

[carmine gyro]

Perfected are commencement elites

And umbra is umbra

[opaque sigil]

[nimble shore]

Umbra is just a copy of the character with less damage and way more health

[primal sandal]

oh you can hold tab and read what the card does

okay yeah this might be very fun

[opaque sigil]

Oh

[carmine gyro]

Yeah just like you can do that with any vanilla ability too 💀

[opaque sigil]

I gtg noe

[primal sandal]

[carmine gyro]

The house my beloved

[nimble shore]

🏠

[primal sandal]

Defo gonna pick the house if Multiplayer manages to work with my friend

[blissful quiver]

Oh damn they gonna reveal the second survivor too

I thought they were gonna leave it as a surprise

Well who's ready to spend another hour waiting for the reveal once the stream starts

[high torrent]

fuck that

[high wasp]

Me!

The wait was actually fun, the music was amazing

I don’t think they’ll show any more new music(the last 3 songs include the final boss and stage tracks) but it’ll still be cook

[little python]

So if I'm central time....WHEN THR HELL IS THE DAMN STREAM!?@? I've got ants in the pants

[smoky charm]

What do you guys think the new character will be

Something similar to acrid but with bleed (imps) or a brand new character corrupted by the void the reveal did say “void corrupts “ soool

Thoughts?

[little python]

I'm sticking with my thought of "void palsdin"

[smoky charm]

Ooh

That would be fun

But I was hoping for someone completely new

Someone who’s been through hell and back and knows the void and how to harness its power

[little python]

The rye is in the center of the body (like imps" but the arms and legs are tendrils of void which have wrapped aroun/corrupted a weapk and like a piece of blast resistant armor from a destroyed ship for a shield

[brave venture]

Void paladin would be completely new

[smoky charm]

Really? I thought there was a paladin in ror1

[smoky charm]

I love it

Might make a mod for it …

[little python]

The void here basically saw a downed ship containing pictures of commando and created a soilder to fight for the "mighty ones"

But its weird, the picture we got sort of made it look like an emaciated kick boxer

[opaque sigil]

Overloading worm is the new dlc character

[little python]

But senator with certain mods you can already play as the worms

WHEN THE HELL IS THE DAMN STREAM HOPOO!!! X.X

[opaque sigil]

What are these mods

[little python]

I think woolies or bisnap had them setup to play as enemies, I'm not certain of them actually

[visual mesa]

Is my favorite red item

No matter how ridiculous the stage gets this thing lets me keep doing the same number of hits to kill an enemy

But how does it stack

[summer canyon]

The events on Discord should be automatically adjusted to your timezones

[little python]

I didnt read the date right. I thought it was today and not Tuesday x.x

[rain warren]

Survivor Reveal happens at 12noon CT (6pm GMT)

[little python]

Yeah I just got the date wrong :(

[winged nimbus]

Hey anyone wanna play on ps4 later today?

I'll be on in an hour or two at the most

[high wasp]

#lfg-playstation-ror2

[winged nimbus]

I...was not aware of that channel

Thank you

[smoky charm]

Dose purity effect dot or item rarity?

Cuz I was stacking purity and crow eyes and I was not getting anything above white

[high wasp]

No it doesn’t

[smoky charm]

Pog

[high wasp]

What are crow eyes?

[smoky charm]

Visions of herecy

Sorry I just like sayying crow eyes

Hey, how do you get character roles

[high wasp]

#role-assignment

And the role commands are in the pinned messages

[smoky charm]

Pog

Thanks

I now have artificer let’s goo

And engi

[silent mulch]

20 mins later
"these characters SUCK, who put them in the game"

[opaque sigil]

Time to play as the house

[arctic pollen]

Does the Artefact of Spite bombs hurt enemies?

[versed swan]

Does anyone know if Ben's Raincoat will prevent band cooldown because doesnt the cooldown count as a debuff?

[high wasp]

only if artifact of chaos is on

[arctic pollen]

Thanks

[high wasp]

it wont doesnt prevent band cooldown

[versed swan]

darn

Also thank you

[high wasp]

but blast shower will still reset band cooldown in SOTV

[versed swan]

Ok Im glad about that cause I still wanna use blast shower with bands with Loader

[high wasp]

wha-

[dull ingot]

you'll see 😉

[high wasp]

wow, these two videos have done really well

this makes me really excited for how well the DLC is going to do

Nice job Uncles! Your advertising for the DLC has worked wonders

[high torrent]

not a billion? low gains

[reef swallow]

great job suncles! three cheers for suncles!

[high wasp]

HIP HIP HIP!

[hazy tinsel]

do yall think im lucky enough to get the ||mithrix|| logbook yet

[potent nimbus]

yes

now get the overloading worm one

[hazy tinsel]

thats also what im going for

this is painful

[green topaz]

go for every aspect

[hazy tinsel]

well in that case i've found 4 out of what is it

6 or 7?

[green topaz]

6 if you include perfected

[hardy palm]

I remember getting around 5 of these, with Artifact of Kin active..... My Computer was not happy

[hazy tinsel]

oh god

my pc is beefy as hell and it struggles whenever the teleporter activates

[hardy palm]

12GB 3060 over here, framedrops due to director trying to process what to do, when I have Kin and Swarm active

The sad computer was another

[balmy cloud]

So hi gd2 how are you

[tranquil star]

i literally just accidentally ran off lmao

e3 moment

[hardy palm]

Oh, so that artifact is basically active with that. Goodness

[high wasp]

Doing just alright

Pretty excited for dev thoughts

Oh and I’m excited the super bowl! (Go bengals)

[balmy cloud]

I don't know much about sports but dev thoughts are neat

[hazy tinsel]

god... god darnit

[kind pivot]

uhhhhh GD1 is a bit hectic so I hope nobody will mind if I copy what I said from there

just went for another run with bandit, got to commencement, annihilated the first boss within 15 seconds

this is pretty good considering that before I was the one getting annihilated

[merry karma]

yeah bandit's one of the best and easy to use

[kind pivot]

now I'm getting annihilated by lunar chimerae, which is much less shameful

[kind pivot]

backstab is so powerful

and his rifle too

[merry karma]

use stealth and get to cover asap

[kind pivot]

I just run away from them, all the trouble happens when I stay in one area and have to charge the pillars

ESPECIALLY if it's a pillar of soul

god I hate those

[merry karma]

what you can do is activate it, and go do other pillars

there should be less enemies

[kind pivot]

wait for real?

[merry karma]

you can also skip pillars in various ways, some speed items, wax quail and headstompers and jumping on the bubble gives you a lot of vertical velocity (called a trimp)

you can also skip with

[kind pivot]

yeah I know you technically don't need to do the pillars to progress

but I have no idea what game-breaking build I have to get to actually get to mithrix without them

[hardy palm]

Looks like those orb minions at the final boss level

[hazy tinsel]

i cannot believe i didn't get the logbook for those but i somehow got the overloading worm logbook

absolutely preposterous

[hardy palm]

I think I got mine, because my minion grabbed it

Although I did went with engineer and overpowered it, so that the director would mass spawn them

[hazy tinsel]

yeah i might go engie next run
huntress did good but it kinda relied on multiple loops for the items
engie just needs fungus and maybe some syringes and they'll be good to farm

[merry karma]

no build needed, you need to use cover, especially for perfected wisps

and as for others, grab some rose bucklers and repulsion armor plates they help immensely

[white badge]

I hate Mithrix's pizza slams so much

[tranquil star]

pizzer

start by staying close to mithrix and going farther out the more speed you have

adjust your distance traveled by running at different angles

this place is so much more chill than gd1 🙂

[high wasp]

Gd2 and Theorycrafting are beautiful havens

except when new members try to solve an arg

But besides that Theorycrafting is great.

[tranquil star]

theorycrafting is like what i wished gd1 was

[chilly bay]

Gd1 is the shitstorm lightning rod
Getting sacrificed so the other channels can live

[frozen pivot]

I retreat here

GD1 is spoopy

Anyone like ElectroSwing?

or Pop LoFi?

...damn it ded here

[tranquil star]

me when someone doesn’t respond within a minute of messaging

nah i don’t rlly like either of those genres

[frozen pivot]

oof

Then what you like Pepsi Man?

Not in a mad tone

Just curious

[tranquil star]

idk, i rarely listen to music anyway

i just listen to osts of games and if it has a good song i add it to a yt playlist

[frozen pivot]

Aye same

listening to A Hat in Time

[tranquil star]

my favorite osts are ror2, rhythm heaven, f.i.s.h., hollow knight, celeste, and shovel knight

[frozen pivot]

Celeste and RoR 1&2 yesssss

[tranquil star]

i didn’t rlly like ror1’s soundtrack :(

[zinc kernel]

I like ror1s stage soundtracks more than ror2s

[tranquil star]

like it was good but not something i’d want to listen to outside of the game, same with dark souls

[zinc kernel]

but I like ror2s boss soundtracks more

[frozen pivot]

whaaaat? not even Coalescence?

or the Stage 1 Boss theme?

[tranquil star]

coalescense is obv good but i feel like con lentitud pedirosa is a direct upgrade

[frozen pivot]

Pssshh, more like a modern take

I wonder if Chris will carry over other songs and modernize those too

for the new DLC

[candid igloo]

Is the save glitch fixed on console yet

[dull kindle]

damn

gd2 be refreshing compared to gd1

[white badge]

question, if you popped a Newt Altar in Sky Meadow's, and have the Teleporter align with the moon would the Blue Portal take you to the moon after the Bazaar?

[tranquil star]

no

[chilly bay]

It does not, blue portal always loops ya

[tranquil star]

blue portals will only loop you

[white badge]

sad

[candid igloo]

I assume the glitch is not fixed

[tranquil star]

what glitch?

[candid igloo]

Some failure to save the progress of the game. Like getting the skins and abilities

I played monsoon and beat it on artificer about…3 months ago. Got the skin then got off after sitting in the menu for 5 minutes
I got back on the next day and i didn’t have the skin anymore

[nimble shore]

Yeah I had that happen to me once, I lost all my Artificer challenges

Idk why

[candid igloo]

It’s just some saving glitch that happens or something…so i’ve been…not playing cause of that

Waiting for the dlc so it gets fixed

[tranquil star]

average 8 transcendences fan vs average 29 PSGs enjoyer

i really should've looped this run, it was so fun

[high wasp]

Nice job!

[tranquil star]

-psg printer stage 5
-6 kjaro's band, 3 from stage 4 tp and 3 from stage 5 tp,
-hlurner from rerolled dio's cauldron

completely free

[high wasp]

I swear for like half of all my eclipse 5-7 runs there was just a tougher times printer on sky meadows

Literally free, printers and scrappers are so awesome

[tranquil star]

actually there was also a tt printer on stage 5 but the run was so good that i decided to get 29 psgs instead of 29 tts, just to prove a point

[high wasp]

Nice lmao

[tranquil star]

@high wasp what is your pfp from?

[high wasp]

It’s from some of the album artwork for ror2 on Spotify, I’ll try to get the whole image

[steady notch]

from one of the album arts for ROR2

[high wasp]

Here, this is the full artwork

[tranquil star]

is he

[high wasp]

Yes

[tranquil star]

bruh

[high wasp]

Wait-

[tranquil star]

what is he doing

commando, i mean

[high wasp]

He just like tamed the beetle Queen I guess

[tranquil star]

suspect

[high wasp]

Shush

[tranquil star]

why is he so much bigger

tf is grovetender doing

[high wasp]

Baby beetle Queen