gd2-nullified

[stone junco]

im going to do a little murdering

[carmine gyro]

Harpoons are gonna turn mobile engi into a superweapon

[solar sparrow]

with no items, harpoons do twice as much damage per second than primary + trigger bands.
with items, its still way more useful to have, as you can again trigger bands

even with stationary, you should still use harpoons

[stone junco]

yes its good i actually did an engi run recently with those

but bubble is also nice to have

[solar sparrow]

most of the time playing engi i barely use my m1 anyway lmao

maybe like stage 1, and mithrix

[stone junco]

nah it aint that bad, just remember to always charge it all the way up and you'll be fine

[stone junco]

and if you start charging and then sprint you can still charge and fire while sprintin

still engie should get some sort of hitscan attack in the new dlc

[solar sparrow]

i mean, its not unusable, but saying harpoons is the worst ability is just wrong

[stone junco]

well yeah

[solar sparrow]

i would say that engi's worst ability is his primary, even though yes its still alright

[stone junco]

https://thunderstore.io/package/shooty/EngineerWithAShotgun/ engi fix

[solar sparrow]

i prefer to stay mostly vanilla but thanks anyway

[stone junco]

ok

[solar sparrow]

something like a placeable launchpad utility would be cool

[acoustic ivy]

pocket ICBM seems op, even for a red item

[solar sparrow]

i mean yeah its strong but it requires other items (except i guess engi)

i'd say its pretty comparable to other items

nowhere near as busted as clover or raincoat

[acoustic ivy]

the additional rockets shouldnt be able to proc items or atleast a much lower rate

[solar sparrow]

stacking ICBM doesnt increase the rockets though (if im reading the text correctly) it only increases the damage

and if you have no missile items its just useless

[warped edge]

chicken nuggets

[acoustic ivy]

5 atg stacks (1500% damage) with 2 icbm stacks

[carmine basin]

stage 104 still trying to get that radio scanner in sundered grove. i still can't believe i found it and died before i could get it earlier

[high wasp]

Posting void leech every day until dev thoughts

Did you guys know Railgunner’s supercharge ability has a proc coefficient of 3 apparently?

[austere owl]

What does that mean

[quartz saffron]

chance to proc items is multiplied by 3

for example atg has 10% to happen with proc coef of 1

for supercharge it's 30%

[reef swallow]

uke and puke have a 75% chance to proc

[reef plover]

w h a t

[burnt path]

now thats nasty

[stone junco]

imo mercurial rachis should be an equipment

[stone junco]

[unborn widget]

WHAT WHY

[burnt path]

why not

[reef plover]

[high wasp]

I DONT KNOW!

It’s so unbelievably absurd

I’m hoping it gets fixed before launch or in a patch after release

Or else railgunner is gonna be so unnecessarily strong

[fickle bolt]

😳

[hybrid vault]

honestly the problem I have with it isn't that it would be too strong

but that it just shows how little hopoo the game cares about balance

[hearty agate]

how y'all fell about this

[merry karma]

based

[carmine gyro]

Sequenced

[dull ingot]

good morning gd2 (normal people)

[burnt path]

Squid game

Squid game

[full gale]

XBOX LIVE

[stone junco]

CIWS phalanx

[timber skiff]

wow this is a really tough choice

i wonder which item i should pick!

theyre all so good!

[plush olive]

trying to do the crab achievement but the crabs are running in random directions?

[gilded ridge]

Hit them once

[broken ginkgo]

follow one of them like a stalker until they so freaked out that choose an easy way

[timber skiff]

i am most likely going to die

ELDER LEMURIANS

LETS GO!

half of that was me stalling out the golems and elder lemurians

[compact root]

nice!!!

[timber skiff]

6 energy drinks and milky chrysalis are really funny when using transport mode

[native sapphire]

Nice

[vague remnant]

Gd2>gd1

[modern ether]

based

[lunar cedar]

YES!

[timber skiff]

there goes this run

[native sapphire]

They are hard if you keep jumping

[timber skiff]

they die kinda fast acutally

can't wait for them to get 5x tougher times

[stone junco]

Absolutely based

[timber skiff]

ITS IN THE FLOOR

[lethal marsh]

Acrid supreme

[hot moon]

Beetle guard

[hot moon]

overloading worm is a pretty strong character but a little finicky to use

i think it is like, c tier ish. it has a lot of potential but it has the worst m2 in the game and its mobility skill isnt really that good.

[timber skiff]

i got tc280 and an elite elder lemurian immediately killed it

[native sapphire]

Yeah smh mobility is a bit clunky

[hot moon]

😔

[reef plover]

they do that

[hot moon]

that was a pretty good run

[timber skiff]

i've been fightying mithrix for 30 minutes now apparently

mul-t is not a good damage character

[lyric stream]

Cap

Power mode pog

Double nailgun

[timber skiff]

THERRE'S SO AMNY LUNAR CHIMERA GOLEMS AND EXPLODERS THAT IT'S STARTING TO LAG BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL FIRING CONSTANTLY

[rain warren]

no good damage character
almost exclusively defensive items

Solid effort tho

Dont be afraid to get some junk in that trunk for when you need some extra damage next time, especially if youre fighting mith

[broken ginkgo]

there almost no defensive items tho are main ones for tank builds

esp when it comes to mult

dmg potential already high when you run with saw

[mystic oxide]

6 slugs is a tad overkill tho

[broken ginkgo]

ew slug

better slug

I mean, you easily can even tank elite scavanger with mult if you have some and ( also nice to stack to push shield effect futher)

t2 included

can help you a lot with early game, in late game it won’t matter cus you have absurd tanking potential anyway

best duo

[foggy badger]

oh my

[mystic oxide]

Just noticed an extreme lack of RAPs

Which is probably maybe a cause for death

[timber skiff]

this run was like

not a serious run at all

i just wanted to get a shitton of energy drinks and zoom around

and then i did the void cell shit and i ended up getting there

[timber skiff]

I don't even remember picking 6 slugs i noticed that like halfway through the fight

also what the hell did i just stumble across

[nimble shore]

Skelly

[timber skiff]

oh yeah also that is what the spinny attack does to you

i would've survived if he didn't shit right in my face and the lunar chimera slowed me down

trying to get flawless and i got wandering vagrant both times so far

i DESPISE that dumb jellyfish

it just made me instantly fail because it hit me right away and my 13 tough times didnt block it

[broken ginkgo]

y?

[broken ginkgo]

bro with mult you can just press shift and take much less dmg from it in transport mode

[timber skiff]

flawless unlocks the double ammo item or whatever

no for flawless you need to take no damage during a teleport charge

[broken ginkgo]

oh you doing this thing

k then

[timber skiff]

i wanna get like 500 backup magazines

it would be funny

[nimble shore]

You know you can cheese it in multiplayer, right

You can also just stack Topaz Brooches with FMP, losing barrier doesn't fail the challenge

[timber skiff]

i have noone available to play it with atm

[grand ice]

I got flawless by accident when testing out the n'kuhana's bungus build with Engineer

Conclusion: It's good

[timber skiff]

LOL

Oh fuck not you

I haven't seen one of these guys in AAAAGES but an elite one of these ended my first run that got to this level

I was so lost and couldn't find the teleporter

[grand ice]

They're spooky

I'm trying to work out if a crowbar stacking build with MUL-T is actually viable or not

[mystic oxide]

Only with rebar or scrauncher

or was it scrocket?

[grand ice]

Yeah. I mean, using one of those, is it viable to stack crowbars until you one-shot everything that's not a boss or a particularly tough elite?

And, if you do, how do you deal with wisps swarms, bosses, and tough elites?

Bandit is probably a better recipient for that build anyway

[mystic oxide]

Yeah definitely

[grand ice]

I just like coming up with stupid combos with Artifact of Command

So far the Everything Procs Everything Else build seems hard to beat.

[broken ginkgo]

It’s theoretically possible with anything, just not effective as on other options

[timber skiff]

fianlly fifghting the grovetender for like

the first time ever

[timber skiff]

I ALMOST HAD FLAWLESS THEN ANOTHER ONE OF THESE BITCHES SHOWED UP AND HIT ME

AARGHH

[exotic folio]

got my first clear on monsoon

[hearty agate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/938476699685900309/image0-2-3.gif

epico

[timber skiff]

nice

ror2 summoner run no way

I forgot that sky meadows was right after that

I got 2 clay dunestridesr so i obviously didnt get flawless

[tranquil star]

oh no e3 will be so difficult on loader

[frail drift]

Yoo i got 100% achievements

Now i only have to get the logs for the stages and monsters

[hazy tinsel]

sameee that just happened to me
what was your last achievement? mine was rex's mastery

[frail drift]

Mine was captains mastery

Thought it would be kinda fitting for my last achievement to be the character you get when you beat the game

Even finished it of with mithrix instead of obliterating and it was pretty fun

I didnt fight mithrix in quite a bit of time

[timber skiff]

nice

[frail drift]

All of the masteries runs were like 1h+ long lol

[tranquil star]

what an absolute travesty

[frail drift]

Should i try beating eclipse?

[tranquil star]

sure, go ahead

eclipse 1 is almost no different from monsoon fighting mithrix

unless you're the engineer, of course

[frail drift]

Oh then thats cool

Im probably gonna do acrid first

[tranquil star]

acrid is very good on eclipse

poison shreds mithrix

[frail drift]

Yea ik

Acrid is really fun to play

[timber skiff]

i am so strong

[frail drift]

How much % do you have from these tougher times lol

[tranquil star]

83.2%

[timber skiff]

i REALLY want flawless

so i got sac artifact

[frail drift]

Damn thats a lot

[vital wind]

hey guys who are the best ror2 youtubers that arent woolie, I need someone else to binge lol. someone who does more slowplay maybe?

[tranquil star]

disputed origin, race, one other i forgot

they're all good

[timber skiff]

a malachite wisp almost sniped me upon spawning but it got incinerated by both my probes

[frail drift]

I like rndthursday

[tranquil star]

i don't like mdthursday but if you like woolie you'll probably like him too

[vital wind]

i like woolie bc hes all i know, i just watched a video that apparently ive been lied to bc i thought speed was the only way to play? and I suck at going fast lol

[frail drift]

A lot of runs of mine have almost ended cuz of malachite elites

They suck

[tranquil star]

there is never one way too play

take everthing woolie says with a hefty serving of salt

he has helpful advice but sometimes it can be bad

[frail drift]

Tbf you should just play the game the way you like

[vital wind]

im really struggling to get past even 1 stage sometimes in even rainstorm

[tranquil star]

^

[vital wind]

true haha XD

[frail drift]

I like to get all of the chest in a stage

[tranquil star]

same

[frail drift]

But like after the first loop i speedrun

[austere owl]

Anyone has a general guide on how to keep pace with the game?
I find I can't keep up the pace one I reach hahaha difficulty. Enemies are 3x my level and almost unkillable

[frail drift]

Well you should just get a lot of items

And from my experience dont focus on one good item that was lets say in a printer and just get a lot of random ones

Cuz you get a lot of synergies you didnt even know existed lol

[austere owl]

Ahh okay that's a nice tip

[frail drift]

Yea

If you like focusing on perfect builds you can use artifact of command to choose your items

[austere owl]

However, even with going through all the chests on a level I find I'm still lacking damage, and that gap just grows

[frail drift]

What character are you playing the most?

[austere owl]

Artificer and MUL-T

[frail drift]

Well i cant give any tips for arti but for multi i recommend getting the beat void fields after stage 7 or later achievement

And use the alt skill with both nailguns

Its the ultimate cheese strat

Like you can go in the first boss without any items

Mult is really good

[austere owl]

Hmm okay! I've had the most luck with him late game simply because he just has insane amounts of procs and ridiculous damage

[frail drift]

Tho the only downside to him is the low proc coefficient

[vital wind]

do you guys have acrid tips too?

[frail drift]

Well when i play acrid i just spam buttons lol

Idk it somehow works out

[austere owl]

true true

[timber skiff]

as expected, I am dead

[frail drift]

But when using the normal attack after the 3rd strike you can use the sprint animation to attack faster

Damn

Always sad to see a 1h+ run go to waste

[timber skiff]

thatw as REALLY fuckin' fun though

[frail drift]

Yea

[timber skiff]

awesome run

[frail drift]

Good for you

[timber skiff]

i felt invincible during the artifact

it practically was just a short break from chaotic levels because of how easy itwas lmao

[frail drift]

Yea artifacts are easy

Like bulwarks ambry

[timber skiff]

it can be a bit hard sometimes like with chaos (because i had to solo it with not the best items and there were a bunch of elite golems and it was like my first time palying artificer)

[frail drift]

Yea like sometimes it sucks

But most of the time its easy

Also i just dont get how artificer works

I dont like it

[timber skiff]

for some reason 2 of the elite golems just.. stopped moving and doing anything

artificer is like kill fast, die fast but without being fast

[vital wind]

think of her like a mage with a rotation instead of like commando with prio

[timber skiff]

i chose artificer for this run cause i just wanted to die fast if i took damage

and then i ended up getting a billion teddy bears and getting a bunch of ally items and drones

[frail drift]

The hardest mastery to do for me was the artificers one

Lol

[timber skiff]

if i got tc it would've made me unstoppable

[frail drift]

Whats tc?

I forgot what it is

[timber skiff]

tc-380

the big drone

[frail drift]

Ohh yea

Right

[timber skiff]

TC is cool but it usually dies like right after you buy it and go into hte teleporter

Like it dies to an elder lemurian or a boss

[frail drift]

Can you even repair tc after it dies

I dont think so

[timber skiff]

nope

it just explodes

[frail drift]

Yea i thought so

Kind of sucks

Also whats your favourite red item?

[timber skiff]

imagine if the follow thingy was way closer so you would be able to "pilot" it

like, stand on top and make it go ina direction

[frail drift]

Yea it would be cool

[timber skiff]

also honestly there's too many items for me to have a favorite

[frail drift]

Yea seems like a valid reason

Mine is brilliant behemoth

Bonus damage +explosions

[timber skiff]

resonance disc and brilliant behemoth are fun though yeah

i got really lucky on my last run getting 2 boss item drops so i could commando them into queens gland and the probes

[frail drift]

Damn

My favourite boss items are the preforators

The molten and charged ones

[timber skiff]

i think its funny how drones will like shit themselves when they see a beetle emerge from the floor and start shooting at your feet but the beetle guard ally smells the fear of an enemy across the map and starts killing everything near it while remaining on like 10 hp

[frail drift]

Yea

Beetle guard is the best ally tbf

[timber skiff]

i think the probes are pretty good too

though the red one would always get up in my face whenever i start using gambling shrines

[frail drift]

Lol

My boss item rng sucks

[timber skiff]

i even stood on it once

yeah i dont get them that much either

i think im gonna try for spite next time i get a good run because it seems like a really funny artifact

i also think its really funny how you find the code

[frail drift]

I took the codes of the wiki cuz i didnt feel like hunting for them

[timber skiff]

same

spite + chaos + swarms would be really funny once you get far enough into the game

maybe even throw in soul

[frail drift]

I dont really use artifacts

Personally dont really like them

[timber skiff]

they're fun imo

chaos is super fun to mess around with (really helpful sometimes too), and command is fun for gimmick runs which is the sole reason i got it

[frail drift]

Which one is chaos?

[timber skiff]

friendly fire for everytihng

[frail drift]

Oooh

Seems kinda fun for multiplayer

[timber skiff]

yeah

[frail drift]

And painful

[timber skiff]

you can murder your friends

[frail drift]

Have to try it out with my friend one time

[timber skiff]

i got it because i wasnt paying enough attention with my friend and we got chaos instead of command

[frail drift]

Lol

[timber skiff]

and i murdered them without hesitation but also on accident (I didn't think they'd die)

they had a god run

[frail drift]

Damn

[timber skiff]

they were practically unstoppable it took like 3 wandering vagrants to take them down

but the reason they were unstoppable was cause they kept getting infusions and also because they spedrun the first few levels without realizing it which forced me to deal with all the enemies while i had like 4 items

[frail drift]

Lol

I wish there was an artifact increasing the spawn rate of mountain shrines

Or anything like that

[timber skiff]

thatd be interesting

swarms increases enemy spawns (but also makes them have less ehalth)

[frail drift]

Yea ik

I knkw honor sacrifice command and swarms

[timber skiff]

ah

[frail drift]

The rest i dont remember

[timber skiff]

spite makes enemies drop bombs on death
and they can drop up to 30, apparently

[frail drift]

Damn

Sucks for melee chars

Also i dont think im ever gonna turn on the wisp one

Cuz i hate wisps

[timber skiff]

so if you had like soul, spite, chaos, and swarms all at once you would have a constant swarm of bombs and wisps

my friend died to a wisp on the god run

[frail drift]

Damn

[timber skiff]

it got the last hit in

[frail drift]

Seems unlucky

[timber skiff]

he was dead regardless because of the 3 invisible wandering vagrants on top of him

[frail drift]

Damn

Loader is a really fun character

[timber skiff]

wisps are assholes

[frail drift]

I love zooming through the map

[timber skiff]

i dont have loader

put energy drinks on MUL-T and use transport mode

[frail drift]

You should totally get it

[timber skiff]

you go REALLY fast

[frail drift]

No but he has an ability that deals more damage the faster you are

[timber skiff]

i had milky chrysalis and like 6 energy drinks so i was just zooming around in the air

[frail drift]

Damn

[timber skiff]

ooh

[frail drift]

My top 3 characters are the melee ones

They are really cool

[timber skiff]

it was really funny too because if you swap off of milky chrysalis, the wings disappear, so MUL-T just levitates

[frail drift]

I hope the 2nd new survivor is gonna be melee

[timber skiff]

my favorites are probably uhh

acrid, huntress, and mul-t

[frail drift]

Probably wont happen

[timber skiff]

i got to mithrix as huntress

[frail drift]

Huntress is fun

[timber skiff]

huntress is "die fast, kill fast" which is one of my favorite playstyles

if artificer had the speed then artificer would be the essence of that playstyle

[frail drift]

Well my fav ranged ones are bandit huntress and captain

[timber skiff]

acrid is just really fun to mess around with

[frail drift]

Tho if railgunner is finally gonna be added its gonna be nr 1

[timber skiff]

railgunners gonna be fun to mess around with on multiplayer probably

[frail drift]

Yea

[timber skiff]

i did a 2 acrid run with my friend and it was really chaotic
ESPECIALLY trying to get the run started because the game kept breaking and wouldnt let us play together

[frail drift]

Also if railgunner is gonna come out i wonder if teammates are gonna have weak spits

[timber skiff]

LOL

[frail drift]

Cuz of the pvp artifact

[timber skiff]

that would be REALLY funny

[frail drift]

Seems good for trolling

[timber skiff]

NEVER play with chaos on if you are acrid and the other person is artificer

[frail drift]

How much hours do you have?

[timber skiff]

21

I'm just built different

[frail drift]

Thats not much but still cool

[timber skiff]

yeah i havent played a TON

[frail drift]

Yea i can tell

Grinding achievements is fun

[timber skiff]

i love this game though

[frail drift]

Except for a few of them

Like mercenarys ethereal achievement

[timber skiff]

i dont intentionally go after achievements for now

[frail drift]

Took me a few months to get cuz i suck at nohits

Especially on melee chars

If you are gonna get comfortable enough with most of the mechanics you should

Cuz you can get more builds

I like that you unlock things with achievements

Thats why i got them all lol

[frail drift]

Lol

[timber skiff]

yeah it makes getting stuff more fun tbh

I don't even know how I died to myself

[frail drift]

Yea samw

Unless thetoxic pools deal damage to you

[timber skiff]

But leaping at artificer instnatly kilsl them pretty much

[frail drift]

Yea

[timber skiff]

idk

queens gland also sucks with chaos because the beetle guard attacks anything that damages it too
INCLUDING your teammates AND you

[frail drift]

Tbf if i would speedrun achievements immediatly i would gotten them all in 50 hours

In game time

Bruh

I only have 150 hours and im suprised that i dont have morw

Considering i play ror a lot

Its definietly gonna change after the dlc comes out tho

[timber skiff]

id have more if i remembered to play more often

[frail drift]

After the dlc comes out i might hit 300-400

[timber skiff]

also it took me a bit to realize what this meant in squid polyp log

i think the idea that some game mechanics like squid turrets just spawning whenever you open ANYTHING being canon is really funny

[frail drift]

Yea lmao

Never read the logs

Im gonna read them after im gonna get all of them

[timber skiff]

some of them are nice and some have funny banter

Disc toy.

[frail drift]

I need to get most of the stage logs and a few of the monster logs

Might just get a mod to increase the chance of logs dropping

[timber skiff]

i have a lot of logs i need to get

[frail drift]

Cuz i dont feel like grinding a lot for logs

[timber skiff]

thats fair

i got the hermit crab log on complete accident

i didnt even know they existed until i got it

[frail drift]

Lol

The log drop rate is painful

Tho the stage ones im just gonna watch a guide

Cuz they spawn in specific places

I have a few

[timber skiff]

yeah but they also spawn rnadomly i think

[frail drift]

Yea sometimes

[timber skiff]

except for bulwark's i hthink?

[frail drift]

Yea

Commencement bulwarks and a moment fractured

I know those dont change

Cuz i always see them in the same place

[timber skiff]

ah

[frail drift]

Alright im gonna go cuz its really late and i have to sleep

[timber skiff]

vus

cya*

[frail drift]

Cya

[tranquil star]

speaking of

absurd rng

[timber skiff]

nice

[pseudo tulip]

just found out about multiplayer black screen bug

day ruined i was having so much fun

[tranquil star]

the longest phase of mithrix was phase 2, the other 3 were over in a matter of seconds. phase 1 got literally one shot and phase 2 got like 3 shot

love diablo

[brave trout]

First W is much pog

[tranquil star]

WHERE'S MY SPEED

someone ping john hopoo and ask him where my speed is

[grand ice]

I have just failed Smushed three times in a row 😐

I think I need a build that doesn't use procs so I don't accidentally kill him too fast.

[earnest radish]

what do you mean you had three red whips

[solar sparrow]

red scrap

[native sapphire]

bruh

[tranquil star]

white pools

it was like n'kuhuna's and wake of vultures iirc

[knotty lichen]

Your speed is hidden in the soulbound catalyst just get a milky chrysalis smh

[tranquil star]

true!

[native sapphire]

just kill mythrix 5 times to get one charge smh

[tranquil star]

WHERE'S YOUR INFLUENCE SPEED?

[knotty lichen]

"Slow acceleration. That can be improved. Speed is war."

"High speed. Speed is war."

[reef swallow]

mithrix would hate void jailers

[knotty lichen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/689492345514885148/921210465844097064/caption.gif

[native sapphire]

literally just a big f u enemy

[simple rock]

Reddit sure is something else

"Hopefully the game gets harder in the dlc" 233 bears with command

[native sapphire]

he he he

[simple rock]

The nerve

[tranquil star]

most self-aware redditor

hope the game gets harder
MF PLAY ECLIPSE

[cobalt ore]

John hopoo

[tranquil star]

it happened again!

now with stationary turret cheese

also never thought i'd be so happy to get an aegis

[austere owl]

What artifacts is he using?

[simple rock]

Command, sacrifice, kin and swarm

[cyan depot]

Anyone have tips to get good at mercenary?

[tired axle]

@buoyant lynx has a guide linked on his profile

[fast pecan]

how to get good as merc: hours and hours of playing lol

[cyan depot]

[fast pecan]

i only became actually good at merc by the time i reached like 200-300ish hours in the game total and started to try to get used to him post expose rework, and after practice i got better over time

i'm sure there's guides out there but he's really just a character you gotta spend your time learning and getting used to

[tired axle]

i mean, merc is kinda a pretty tech heavy character, i really wouldn't recommend trying to figure out how to do m1 extensions, cancels, timping, etc on your own

[fast pecan]

i've literally never heard of timping lol idk what that is

is that the shove dash?

[tired axle]

trimping is just the thing where you use whirl wind at a slope to gain more height

tis

[acoustic ivy]

(very funny mechanic with head stomper

[cyan depot]

This is very helpful

[tired axle]

mainly used to get newt alters, get out of danger, etc

[fast pecan]

ah i see, i prefer to use rising thunder so i haven't utilized it recently but i've done it a lot when i used to use whirlwind

[tired axle]

this one's referring to slamming?

[cyan depot]

When i use rising thunder i feel i have dificulties lowering my altitude when necessary fast enough

[fast pecan]

yeah i thought the name was slamming, i figured that i just don't know communal names for tech that i already learned to do myself

eh i use an unpopular loadout of rising thunder, focused assault and eviscerate and that generally lets me move around just fine

merc realistically can use any combination of skills but he does have an optimized loadout

[main trout]

I also use this I think

[tired axle]

i see, not really a fan of it myself tbh, it messes with his combo potential a lot

[main trout]

focused assault is the dash that puts bombs on enemies, right?

[fast pecan]

i tend to prefer purity merc where the combo potential is already super simple there

[tired axle]

eh, purity isn't too much of a dps gain, you're better of just getting the proc items

[fast pecan]

i'm aware, my build itself is sub-optimal, i run transc+purity+tonic on my later stage games, but i'm at a point skill-wise where i don't need to be optimal because i'm almost always fine and able to clear floors while taking little damage or no damage

[main trout]

being optimal is lame anyway

[fast pecan]

where i often just get a ton of focus crystals and everything just dies

[main trout]

embrace imperfection

[tired axle]

perma tonic, or?

[fast pecan]

slicing winds is that ability that's extremely optimal but honestly the most boring way you could possibly play the most fun and aggro character

yeah perma tonic

[acoustic ivy]

risk of rain 2 players try to not make stupid proc chain builds only challenge

[main trout]

yeah I don't like slicing winds

my i-frames

[fast pecan]

i just like it cause it's extremely satisfying to dash into rather than away from an exploding vagrant

[main trout]

yeah

exactly

[fast pecan]

and because it's just another dash, that can be sat in while other CDs finish

[main trout]

we just play in the same way lmao

minus the lunars

[acoustic ivy]

nobody is saying you cant dash into an exploding vagrant without eviscrate or how its called
you kill it, or you dont

[fast pecan]

while that markedly reduces my dps compared to an optimal proc merc, i still do well in almost every run and i enjoy that far more

[main trout]

based

[tired axle]

also, yeah, perma tonic just allows you to win with any build anyways, 3x damage is rather strong

[main trout]

I like taking gesture and some cool active

I never feel like getting tonic

[fast pecan]

i don't think any active feels as satisfying as crossing the 5th stage in 4 dashes lol

[tired axle]

well, slicing wind does allow for this, so ya know

[merry karma]

its fun

[tired axle]

sitting on an enemy while still dodging their attacks is kinda just more fun to me than just dashing around with half the dps

[fast pecan]

i play mostly online and you don't get much expose in an online setting lol

[merry karma]

i play any loadout except BA

[tired axle]

right, they still haven't fixed the expose bug yet

[fast pecan]

idk if that's a bug or a feature

[reef swallow]

what bug

[fast pecan]

that other people can activate your expose, doing the damage but not getting the cd reduction

[tired axle]

here, game checks for expose, removes the buff, and then checks for if you're playing merc to give you the damage boost and cd reduction

[tired axle]

they don't get the damage

[reef swallow]

ohh yeah this, that's stupid

[main trout]

damn, so if someone else playing merc activates the expose their cooldowns get reduced?

[tired axle]

yes

[reef swallow]

couldn't they just move the removebuff down two lines to fix it

[main trout]

wow

[tired axle]

yes

[reef swallow]

that's great

🍝

[tired axle]

but they still haven't done it, and it's been there since 1.0

[main trout]

they could also just remove the second if and have it work for every character (Merc is now support)

by remove I mean just not making it an if

[tired axle]

yeah, both would help

[reef swallow]

anything but this utter spaghetti

[main trout]

I should maybe tell this to the person I play with

Didn't know it didn't work

with others

informed

[stone junco]

I kinda Wonder how the instakill glasses interact with raigunner's crit gimmick

[main trout]

you just kill everything 😎

[stone junco]

Holy balls is that mr. Stremer?

[tired axle]

no

[reef swallow]

they won't and you'll just have the chance to instakill, most likely

[hearty lark]

ayo lads i have a choice

but i dunno what to choose on loader

TT or SS

[reef swallow]

which ones are those

[stone junco]

Ok

[main trout]

have we like, talked before? @hearty lark

[hearty lark]

tougher times or soldier's syringe

[reef swallow]

ahhhh

[main trout]

your names seems really familiar

[reef swallow]

syringe

[stone junco]

Lost Seer's lenses

[hearty lark]

maybe? i used to be in here but i left a while ago

[main trout]

not in here

[hearty lark]

i just came back

[tired axle]

if you're using charged gauntlet and don't have a lot of attack speed yet take soldiers, otherwise take tt

[main trout]

have you been in a surreal server? if that means nothing to you then you haven't

I think there was someone called deimos there

[hearty lark]

prolly not then, dont know abt a surreal server

[hearty lark]

tyty

[main trout]

just a coincidence then

[cyan depot]

Tell that guy to activate artifact of vengeance and try that same build again

[high wasp]

Posting void leech every day until dev thoughts

[main trout]

thicc

[high wasp]

Uncles today is my birthday, can I have just one more image of my beloved void leech

[hot moon]

thats my second aspect ever

also please give ratbag more void leech pics @ suncles!!!

ratbag has been the most dedicated fan of void leech they deserve high quality void leech png for their birthday

[high wasp]

this is true!

i was even the first one to spot the void leech

[hot moon]

yes

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _🕯️ _ _ _ _ 🕯️ _ _ _ _ 🕯️
🕯️ SeventeenUncles 🕯️
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 🕯️ _ _ _ _ 🕯️ _ _ _ 🕯️

summoning circle

[finite river]

Yes he does!

[full gale]

It'd be a real dick move not to provide ngl

[iron plover]

so true!

[civic sleet]

Give the man the pic!

Also happy birthday ratbag!

[high wasp]

Thank you! :)

[tired axle]

happy birthday @merry karma

[civic sleet]

https://youtu.be/vdVnnMOTe3Q I even went all this way to get you this rat mixtape you’ve been asking for

[high wasp]

😳

[merry karma]

🤨

happy birthday ratbag 🐀

[high wasp]

Thank you :) 🐀

[finite river]

Happy birthday!

[high wasp]

Thanks y'all!

all we need now is for uncles to send another image of void leech

[grand ice]

Late to the party, what's a void leech?

[high wasp]

one of new void items, it is likely void tri-tip dagger but nothing is really known about it, i'll send a better image of it

this goober

[grand ice]

What a chonker

[high wasp]

I love this little dude and we're trying to get Uncles to post another teaser of him for my birthday

[hot moon]

@dire rivet please 🥺

[finite river]

Please Suncles

[buoyant lynx]

Meh, it's fine
Although Merc has an "optimal" loadout, his skills are balanced closely enough that you can perform pretty well with any setup
It's part of what makes him appeal to me lel: He's incredibly flexible in his loadouts and you can use basically anything and still get great output

Like, in my guide where I showcased a single Golem with RT - BA - SW and RT - FA - Evis, the TTK was about the same between both

The only skill that has an even remotely notable gap between its counterpart is Eviscerate, which is just generally weaker compared to Slicing Winds, but that's a pretty easy-to-fix issue even then - Phat's MercTweaks mod implemented a solid fix that was pretty straightforward

[grand ice]

Eviscerate feels like the advantage is the invulnerability rather than the damage

[buoyant lynx]

Kind of
But the "optimal" loadout completely takes care of that, assuming we use that

[grand ice]

It's still nice to have for new players

[buoyant lynx]

Definitely

And unlike Ion Surge doesn't harm Merc's kit too much or detract from his gameplay

Though funnier thing I find about Evis is the attack speed scaling
It's cool, but like
Merc doesn't like attack speed since it makes comboing more and more difficult
So it's counterinuitive

[grand ice]

I've been enjoying the game more since I stopped caring about "pure" play and just used Command all the time

[buoyant lynx]

And that's fine

It's a game - play however the hell you want

[grand ice]

Sure, it bugs me a little that the optimal build is usually what I refer to as ÉPÉE (Everything Procs Everything Else)

But I don't have to use that

[buoyant lynx]

Merc's "optimal" loadout is more maximizing his damage and comboing - the higher procs are just a side effect of Merc as a whole since every one of his skills is both damaging and have 1.0 proc coefficients

[grand ice]

I'm resolved not to take Ceremonial Dagger again unless I want to break the game

[buoyant lynx]

Hmmm
How do you feel about using mods?
BalanceOverhaulRBO is a great one for dealing with proc chains without completely removing them

[grand ice]

I feel good about it, I've actually been thinking about modding the game myself because I have Opinions about osp.

[buoyant lynx]

Oh, OSP is pretty much known to be a poorly executed mechanic lel

If you're gonna get into modding, go to Thunderstore.io, download R2Modman, and install R2Modman
If Windows Defender gives you a positive, that's false - Ebkr, R2's dev explained why

HIFU has a list of QoL and Tweak mods pinned in #ror2-modding

[reef swallow]

what's the best rebalance mod? i saw riskymod but that one had a lot of weird unnecessary changes

[buoyant lynx]

I'd say it's more a collection - namely the list HIFU has pinned
The next best after that is BalanceOverhaulRBO imo

[grand ice]

My idea about osp is that it should apply a kind of health debt. Like, you took 200% of your health in damage from a scavenger with crowbars, now you're on 10% HP and can't heal for a while.

[buoyant lynx]

RiskyMod is........
I agree with its scaling changes and OSP fix, but that's about the end of it
At least it's super configurable so you can disable
Literally everything except scaling fixes lel

[buoyant lynx]

Ah, well
Doesn't exist as a mod I'm afraid

[grand ice]

Yeah, I know, that's why I was thinking of trying to mod it in myself

[buoyant lynx]

There's an invite to the modding discord also pinned in #ror2-modding

Anyways
I now disappear back into the ether that is #ror2-game-questions

[grand ice]

See you!

[zinc kernel]

Fadeshock says goodbye chat

[grand ice]

Diablo strike is a meme, right?

I mean, it's hilarious. But I can't imagine it's good.

(Also, which supply beacons are good? I like the equipment charge one so far.)

[modest trout]

Got soft locked due to a Greater Wisp just... being over there

[haughty badge]

it works okay with shock beacon
to answer beacons
depends?
most people use hack for an easy earlygame

[finite minnow]

Furry captain

[tranquil star]

i attribute this command-like rng to switching from fassault to bassault

i'd also like to mention that the clover and behemoth were both from small chests

[grand ice]

how the bollocks do I play REX

[high torrent]

use utility as mobility

wait i have a copypasta for that

[high torrent]

hold m1
spam m2
throw special into crowds

use utility as mobility, remember that you can instakill enemies by pushing them into abyss and you also can heal yourself to full if you hit 5 enemies with it

always jump and move sideways

in a fight that's it

[grand ice]

I don't have any of the alternate abilities unlocked yet

But I shall give that a try!

[high torrent]

do dunked asap

it's an insane upgrade

[grand ice]

I'll need to loop at least once, possibly twice to get a dunestrider to spawn outside the teleporter event

[high torrent]

ok here's like a lengthy method, but a working one
100% way to get the dunestrider
go for sacrifice swarms command on monsoon, roll aqueduct and stay there for like 40-50 minutes

[grand ice]

I can manage that no problem on Drizzle, especially with Command active, so it's not "I can't do this" so much as "this is gonna take a while"

[high torrent]

also advised to hit tp at 45 minutes and outside so spawns are increased

[slate rapids]

i just got super lucky and it spawned in on stage two as the boss

you may too

[high torrent]

you need so much luck to not get titans or beetles lol

[grand ice]

Oh, I guess I could just keep restarting until I get it as the boss. There's only like four it can pick from.

[slate rapids]

yeah

[slate rapids]

either way works just do wgat you feel like honestly

[grand ice]

Clay Dunestrider may be my favourite boss.

Time to find one and push it down a hole

[indigo depot]

clearly
this was exactly how the game was intended to be played

[last quartz]

Uh

[atomic cipher]

Yo, what has been found out about that uesterminal site? I haven't been reading this channel for a couple days.

I know that the password is known

[brave venture]

Check pins in #theorycrafting

[quartz dune]

is it one of those runs?

[lyric stream]

Nice

[silent mulch]

thats a good meme. I like this meme

[tranquil star]

the saga continues

the overloading brass contraption did the majority of damage

right after i took care of an overloading elder lem, too

what the actual fuck

i also got two masks because this game hates me

[high wasp]

what abilities do you use on arti?

[acoustic ivy]

Default kit but with ice spear

[tranquil star]

all default

[high wasp]

Nice

[tranquil star]

except the skin, of course

[high wasp]

Good man

[tranquil star]

maybe i should switch over to electric balls tho

[high wasp]

If you want to I guess

They’re mostly equal, I did arti eclipse with all default and did fine

[tranquil star]

i am currently not doing fine

merc and arti are the only two who i don’t have on e3

[high wasp]

I believe

Skill comes with experience and practice

It took me a while to get good at eclipse as well but once I did I was unstoppable

[last quartz]

I still haven't done monsoon in a normal run

[slender sigil]

wild

[tranquil star]

WHERE'S MY SPEED

43 minutes and one speed item

and then 2 fucking overloading lems

[grand ice]

Ass Contraption strikes again

There should be a red item that gives you a pet one like the Queen's Gland gives you a pet beetle guard

Just so we can know what it's like to be on the giving end of the spiky balls of death for once

In other news, just got REX: Dunked and the "heal 1000 HP in one go" thing.

Is Directive: Harvest any good?

[native sapphire]

I love RNG

[fallen flax]

very very late but no

not better than growth at least

[summer wave]

The fact you got pearl says the run was doomed from the start

[tranquil star]

wdym

[summer wave]

You used up all your luck getting the pearl

[solar sparrow]

Yellow scrap

Also just get chrysalis 😎

[tranquil star]

no

it’s really bad

[grand ice]

alas

[high wasp]

Posting void leech everyday until next dev thoughts

Thank you uncles for this wonderful new gif of my baby boy

[misty ingot]

There are vending machines now? Where was this revealed?

[high wasp]

yesterday by uncles in the discord

[misty ingot]

Ah I see. Thanks

[nimble shore]

Oh that squash and stretch is excellent

[misty ingot]

Yummy beverage heal

[nimble shore]

If I had a nickel for every good roguelite game I've played where you can purchase soda from a vending machine, I'd have at least 10 cents

There are probably more besides RoR2 and Going Under but I can't remember off the top of my head

[little python]

I've been watching the playthrough of sniper and originally I wasn't sold but I am more and more

[stone junco]

amogus

[frosty jasper]

is more than one syringe worth it with double rebar swap?

[nimble shore]

You don't need syringes at all with double Rebar Retool

[frosty jasper]

i mean for autofire

[nimble shore]

If you're just autofiring then honestly any amount of attack speed is good, Rebar fires really slow

Once per 1.8 seconds

[frosty jasper]

but does it stop increasing at a certain point?

and by autofire i mean holding both buttons

[nimble shore]

Wym "both buttons," aren't you using Retool

Or do you mean you're using Retool to cancel the endlag of Rebar and attack faster

[lyric stream]

What channel

[high wasp]

theorycrafting

[frosty jasper]

if i hold retool and m1 then it automatically retools after each shot

if i add 1 syringe it does it faster

i cant tell if it changes each time i get another syring

[nimble shore]

Nope attack speed doesn’t change it at all

And you need an obscene amount of boosts to make it so that just holding M1 fires faster, so you don’t need to bother with attack speed items at all

[pseudo dagger]

could someone join my live

its in live streams channel

[grand ice]

Hi all. I hear a lot of people say the implementation of one-shot protection is a problem, but what exactly is wrong with it?

[stark crater]

It can be abused

as long as you're above 90% health, you can survive any instance of damage

Say you have the ability to rapid regenerate your health, you can abuse this without cooldown

This was basically the meta of the game before Shaped Glass was nerfed to remove one shot protection

[stark crater]

You're right in that the rebar isn't necessarily sped up by attack speed (because rebar has a reload timer, that is affected but cancelled out by the retool)

However, retool is actually affected by attack speed, which in turn does allow you to fire faster

[tired axle]

not really, retool has a cooldown of 0.5s meaning that's the maximum firerate you can get

[tired axle]

it's mainly the fact that it's a bandaid fix for the high damage enemies can deal at later stages in a run. it doesn't really solve the problem and instead makes you rely on a mechanic that isn't even really consistent (since some enemies use multi hit attacks than can just bypass it anyways). another thing that makes it problematic is it's interaction with shield; since it always take 9s for your shield to fully regenerate you will loose out on osp for that duration, if you're shield takes up over 10% of your health at least. this leads to people avoiding shield generators, which shouldn't really happen for a white item.

[stark crater]

The skill cooldown is tied to the retool animation

[tired axle]

it's not, one sec

[stark crater]

O wait were we talking double rebar setup

No sorry I meant that

There's kind of an awkward delay after firing a rebar, and before being able to shoot on the nail gun

[tired axle]

i believe so, though even in other cases, retool's cd is never tied to the animation

[stark crater]

These delays are cut down by soldier's syringe

making rapid fire retools feel more responsive, not that firerate directly lowers the retool cooldown

Although the animation speed of retool is in fact affected by syringe

So that does still provide an overlap where you can fire faster

[tired axle]

yes, though it's still going to have a firerate of 2/s no matter how many syringes you get

well, except for with 0 of course since retool has been bugged since anniversary

[stark crater]

yeah I was gonna say there is a very obvious change

going from 0 -> 1

[tired axle]

they changed the base animation time to 0.55 meaning you now need to actually time your retools rather than just holding down the button

[stark crater]

wdym?

at 0 syringes?

[tired axle]

here, first couple seconds are holding, second part is tapping right after firing

[stark crater]

huh strange

Well from just a quick glance, you can stack enough syringes to perform the retool animation and fire off a rebar

all before the actual retool cooldown is up

So stacking syringes technically makes you more efficient at burst firing the 2 rebars, but otherwise yeah you are right that it's capped at 2/s

At some point, I'd probably just be wishing I had the nailgun equipped instead though

Does purity impact retool cooldown though?

that would be interesting

[tired axle]

nope, 0.5s is the minimum cooldown for any skill

[stark crater]

awww lame

Thanks for that though, that was a fun little mystery I didn't know much about

[tranquil star]

mmmmmm soder

my guess is that it’s the credit card item

[tranquil star]

wait no he has a soder on him

it can’t be a credit card

[high wasp]

Yeah, uncles hinted yesterday that the credit card might have been a placeholder

So I think it is likely it was replaced by the soda

Because I don’t really know what else it could be

[tranquil star]

it did look a little off yeah

[grand ice]

So I just tried out Hardlight Afterburner on Mercenary

Holy heck

[tranquil star]

yeah

[high wasp]

more

needs to be an even number divisible by 50 or 100 imo

[azure ice]

i actually looked back at my youtube streams, i played the day this game came out

been playing ever since

[high wasp]

oh wow

i started a month after release i think

[hearty agate]

i remember back when gearbox has holding their stream

was watching with a group of friends

while i was constantly refreshing the store page for ror2

since the release date was Q1

and then it suddenly was there

and then 5 mins later in the stream

it shows up

"Oh. thats why it released today"

[azure ice]

my friend told me to buy it so we could play

he showed me and now he doesnt even playy XD

[high torrent]

exactly same

[austere owl]

man that sucks

I'm here avoiding unlocking characters and items so we can go through together with a friend of mine

[high torrent]

just have another profile

[wild swift]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-sleepy-good-night-sweet-dreams-sleep-well-gif-7458593

Gd2

[grand ice]

Loader: Swing By done

Now it's just Huntress: Piercing Wind, Deicide, The Calm, and the Bandit, Artificer, and Acrid achievements left.

(And artifacts)

[azure ice]

i can help u if you're interested (and on PC)

or switch or stadia i guess XD

[grand ice]

Thanks for the offer! I might take you up on that for Piercing Wind, because no-hit achievements are kinda bullshit, but I'll see if I can do the rest myself.

[azure ice]

yeah feel free to dm me or ping in the next 2 days im off

[grand ice]

Have fun on your days off!

(Regarding Swing By, Kjaro's Band remains one of the very best boss killer items in the entire game on the right character)

[slim hearth]

new survivors of the void character
NEW SURVIVOR
GUP
Passive - Jelly Barrier: Absorb light/small projectiles into your body. Maximum cap of 5 projectiles, scales with maximum health.
M1 - Spike Cone: Fire a cone of spikes in front of you for 5x150% damage
M2 - Area Spike: Release a small area of spikes 360 degrees around you for 400% damage each
Shift - Bounce: Jump into the air and land, creating a shockwave for 1000% damage to any monster underneath you
R - Retaliate: Fire any projectiles you have absorbed in front of you for 500% damage each.

please hoopo make gup playable

gup my beloved

[amber cargo]

should be doing 25000% damage

[azure ice]

bands SLAP

[dull ingot]

i appreciate that there was thought put into this

[bitter shoal]

beans

[tranquil star]

it only took a full day of just arti attempts 🥲

[near jay]

what do we think the soda machine thing that hopoo tweeted does?

[tranquil star]

gives health on interaction, subsequently proccing polyps and fireworks

[dense basin]

Gd1 has descended further into madness, once again

[fossil island]

Lore theory here: After you kill the boss in ror2 void reavers arrive to detain you, so killing the boss in ror1 should warrant the same response and who is the only confirmed returning character that just so happens to be contained in the void?

[winter sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/unexpected-unexpected-gup-post-this-gup-gup-risk-of-rain2-gif-24352777

[tranquil star]

when they least expect it

[wild swift]

whaddup gd2

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[agile light]

Gd1 > gd2

[silent mulch]

its not

gd1 is so full of immature brats

[haughty badge]

are you included

[stone junco]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-so-pissed-i-am-pissed-gup-risk-of-rain2-gup-is-pissed-gif-24352771

[forest steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-artificer-ror2-risk-of-rain-gif-24215067

[stone junco]

i remember skipping the final phase once with gesture capacitor

[forest steppe]

The holy combo

[high wasp]

Day 7 of posting void leech until next dev thoughts

[spring frost]

Yo GD2
Any of y'all find the password to the ARG?

[high wasp]

Check pins in theorycrafting

[hearty agate]

https://streamable.com/z2dc24

i hate elder lemurians and their non existing sound warnings

[merry karma]

you heard his footsteps at 0:05, left channel

[tranquil star]

top 1 overloading elder lemurian moments

[fallow depot]

i may need engineer tips as someone who has not played engineer

[quartz saffron]

the turrets get the items you get (after you place them down)

placing them in spots where the enemies have a harder time hitting them helps much (so on top of rocks)

you can charge up your m1 to shoot more than 2 grenades

[fallow depot]

is visions good on engi? brain doesnt understand charging an m1

ive heard it replaces turret attack too

[high wasp]

Yes visions is very good on engi

[quartz saffron]

yup

[fallow depot]

good to know

[quartz saffron]

and also is good for the default turrets cause they'll always make use of it

[fallow depot]

is it better to throw shield on turrets or self

rather should i be near em defending them or nah

[quartz saffron]

the turrets usually

but note that as the game goes on the shield matters less

enemies can just walk in

or stuff like worms and imp overlords don't care about it

[fallow depot]

ill try engi soon again

[azure ice]

visions lets engi himself do more attacking but nerfs his turrets

they lose range and attack rate

if you really plan to do work yourself take them, but its usually not worth it imo. you're better off just getting 2/3 razorwire and using self damage.

attack speed is amazing on engi. if you get 2 warhorns and a woodsprite, or woodsprite warnhorn and fuel cell you have nearly 100% uptime on warhorn, which is 70% attack speed

[high torrent]

show him someone the spreadsheet with visions of heresy and turret comparison

[burnt path]

😳

Vision of heresy on turrets

[tired axle]

visions is ~400%dps, both of his turret types only deal 200%dps, so visions is a buff on them

they also keep their attackrange, no idea where that one came from

[azure ice]

visions isnt 100% accurate and fires less if you dont reduce cooldown

idk the math on it tho

[tired axle]

like, even if you're talking about the spread, the homing makes up for it, and stationaries have falloff anyways making the difference even bigger

[tired axle]

firing less isn't really a downside if each burst is 1260% damage

[azure ice]

but that reduces the effectiveness of attack speed items, wouldn't that reduce over all procs?

i have no idea how much damage any attack does XD it either proc bands or it dont

[tired axle]

it does reduce the effectiveness, but it still takes a while till you're better off with regular turret m1

[azure ice]

btw did you make that mod C?

[tired axle]

yes

[azure ice]

nice thanks i just downloaded that one
huge coincidence i was looking at it on thunderstore then u reply to me

[tired axle]

eh, i'm kinda just always active in this channel normally

here's a lazily made graph for attackspeed scaling btw

[azure ice]

i have no idea what i am looking at XD

[tired axle]

blue line is visions dps at different attackspeeds, orange is regular turret

so normal turrets are better if you have >2.95 attackspeed

so 13 syringes

[quartz saffron]

or 11 + a warbanner

[azure ice]

you can cut out a large chunk of those with aforementioned warhorn build

warbanner doesnt increase anything other than it's size

[high torrent]

warhorn doesnt increase turret's dps🗿

[tranquil star]

real?

[high torrent]

on god fr deadass

[dense trout]

Turrets don't 'use' equipment item if I remember

[merry karma]

they use aspects and however

op

[high torrent]

the only way to play engi

[tranquil star]

fuel array mobile turrets is honestly hilarious

also one time i got a fire aspect engi run, very gamer

[novel cosmos]

do we know what other survivor is? besides railgunner?

[tired axle]

nope

though probably something void related

[little python]

I remember there being a poll about the final survivor and one of the entries was "paladin" im guessing it's a void paladin

[haughty badge]

reinsniper

[silent mulch]

we all know the only survivor was commando and acrid.

[wild swift]

Railgunner 2

[little python]

So I like sniper but my God she looks WAY more detailed than all the other survivors and backgrounds haha

[silent mulch]

its called power creep

[high torrent]

bandit is about as detailed as her

because bizzo is on completely different level compared to hopoo

and you just cant say to people like "yo downgrade your art, it doesnt fit"

[little python]

I never said that, I said it looks kinda goofy which it does

For example, look at engi and sniper from the back. Engi's pack looks kinda simple while snipers has all these gadgets and gizmos, the sides open up when she uses hypercharge

[little python]

Also this is a silly arguement. Imagine taking baiken from guilty gear strivw and putting her in a pixelated 2d enviornment....."hey uhhhh maybe we should touch up baiken to make her fit?" "Nah fuck you."

[high torrent]

wtf is this comparison haha

ror2 never had a defined style in the first place anyways

[silent mulch]

I think it did.

[little python]

Sure it did

[silent mulch]

Simple and plain.

[high torrent]

and was crafted by people who werent working with 3d for a decade

[little python]

Simple and clean. As the way you're making me feel tonight. It's hardto let it show throught

[silent mulch]

want me to whisper dirty things to you?

[high torrent]

new modeler has the artistic freedom that he needs, pushing the boundaries of what this game looks like

[little python]

Please no I'm at work

[silent mulch]

k

[little python]

I think you're missing the point entirely. I'm not calling it bad or that he should be bound but people, especially veteran players are gonna notice the difference

[silent mulch]

the major difference in design between railgunner and every other survivor who isn't rex means that either railgunner will be remodeled down, or everyone else will get a re-model

[high torrent]

i think i saw some animation touch-ups in teasers

[little python]

That's one way to go about it but then EVERYTHING will have to be remodeled

[high torrent]

loader walked differently in some gif

i mean if bizzo gets paid ig he will

will see

risk of beeg feet

[little python]

Sure will, idk j kinda like the goofy simple models but slight touch ups cant huet

Hurt*

[silent mulch]

there is a reason why newer models of spritework cause older models to get revised

[little python]

Also, I noticed in the sniper simulacrum, at least for mobile, if you wait for the video screen save to show up you can see snipers alt skin

At least what I think her alt skin is

[zinc kernel]

railgunner* 😏

[high wasp]

?

[mossy garden]

you mean just the icons or also the descriptions

because the icons have been shown

[grand ice]

If everything is going to be remodelled, there's one question on everyone's minds...

Will they have tail physics?

[high wasp]

Does anything in the game been have tails besides acrid and lemurians

Do lemurians even have tails?

[silent mulch]

I think hermit crabs?

[little python]

Hey idk, I cant make that call. But from an ease perspective it would be a LOT easier and less time consuming to model sniper down rather than remodel everything else up

You're honestly about to tell me in 21 days 1 or 2 artists are going to remodel and texture EVERYTHING in the game? Both new levels, enemies and bosses? Not a chance

[little python]

No I mean, on mobile when you watch a YouTube vid and you turn your screen off or click the power button then go back to that video theres like a screen shot used for a display? That thing

[mossy garden]

can you show it?

[little python]

If I can get it yeah

[high wasp]

That’s just the normal skin but lighter because of the lighting

[little python]

I dont think so, the normal skin doesnt have those dread lock things and the visor is different

[high wasp]

What dread lock things?

https://imgur.com/VCEVdLX

[little python]

Under the I and the V there are these like dotted dreadlocks coming from the back of the helmet

[high wasp]

It is the exact same skin bro

[little python]

Well maybe it is who knows, I've never seen the front of it xD

Correction, never seen the front for more than maybe a few seconds

[high wasp]

Why are her arms so skinny

How tf does she carry that giant rail gun

[little python]

Stimpacks

[mystic oxide]

The gun is lighter than it looks

[mossy garden]

probably due to snowy forest lighting

or whatever its called now

[high wasp]

Siphoned forest

[mossy garden]

i like snowy forest more ngl

its not an interesting name but it sounds nice

[high wasp]

Yeah me too, but siphoned forest is just a little cooler