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folks who do not pick them up are saying they DON'T like deleting enemies
they DON'T like healing from sprinting
they DON'T like the puke
I will never skip da bling bling polylute
<-- puke
I'm not sure if I'd take polylute on acrid or captain or loader
coward
I literally do not care
what would the polylute sound like?
Chris
I will never skip something so twisted 😈
corruption never sounded so good
glass lets ya instakill enemies, but they can instakill YOU
The only downside is that you miss out on the original item's effects for the rest of the run
So it's quite literally just alt items
Yes i love that
Lost seer shadow buffs ocular HUD 🤨
with the brand new lost seer's lenses take all the danger of shaped glass and chuck it straight into the trash! Here you can instantly kill everything in sight without losing your oneshot protection!
It's lunar items without ruining the item
Yep
who needs crits anyway?
And we only saw 3 of them(there's probably like 20)
just get some clovers
Just get ocular hud
I think there might be just barely a few more than the lunar items
Full time
I'd like to be proven wrong though
It would just be a bit lame if there was this cool awesome tier and it has like no items in it's own expansion
My bets on 12
That only means there will be no more items ADDED to it later
Bookmark this and harass me if I'm wrong
what kinda void items would you guys wanna see?
Only the 4 normal items shown in previous Dev thoughts are non void 😹
Void pauldrons, Void Focus crystal, void daisy
Prolly something like dmg on pulse in tp
Things I not often consider too useful
Void polyp would have to be wungus level good
To counteract how bad the regular polyp is
I would like a void chronobauble, maybe it stops time for a limited time when YOU'RE hit!
YOOOOOO
Same thing but it sticks to your body instead
THAT'S SICK
My idea for a voidwire was it would be turned into a proc that made it so they get wire wrapped in them
Superhot item
(Slows time when Ur not moving, doesn't work in coop doe 💀)
But it does sound funny
On jojo it's fucking timestop
You CANNOT put it into ror2
:(
On touhou it's fucking timestop
Risk of rain does have timestop doe
I was talking to my girlfriend and i showed her the gman
it was in ror1 though
Anyone who mentions timestop should be instabanned
And i said when the GORDON is UNDER EMPLOYMENT
You can implement time stop in multiplayer
Void bands (consumes both band types) 🤨
we're just discussing what we think would be cool dude
I never skip meteorite ☠️
THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG
meteorite is pretty good
On my friends third games i had one of them use meteorite
It was a new player bloodbath
I had meteorite and glass one time, my friend died so many times
Omegalul
Meteorite is too based
Isn't it good on arti cause the damage is on the floor only
I stopped doing that cuz that wasn't really that fair and I wanted them to have fun too
Cowardice
Jk jk
Void lunar items 👽
Void headstompers: cannot jump
Please don't make void lunar items
Legbreakers
Void gesture: cannot activate equipment, 50% higher cooldown
Void brittle crown: become mithrix
Void gestures: cannot activate equipment except when fully charged, Adds 2 extra charge, activates all charges at once
void focus crystal: you deal extra ranged damage
Focus crystal would just be a giant circle with a hole around you
You'd be the donut hole
Void pauldron increases damage when not on a planetary genocide 😈
be a good person: the item
moth scared the shit outta me
Void crowbar 🧐
That'd just make you do extra damage the lower health they are
Void items aren't always the opposite
I think we need to broaden void items from oh it's the opposite to oh it's a really alternate view
Yeah
Like seers lost glasses
Like lost seer isn't really an opposite
Way more than just crit evil
Wungus just has no real alternative than starstorm dungus
Here's my idea for a cautious slug void
ion surge 😔
And polylute uhhh well 🤷♂️
When your out of combat you start gaining a scaling dmg buff until you enter combat and it starts to decay
I mean out of combat happens enough to make slug goated
I fucking HATE bugs
red whip, on the other hand, doesn't care if you get hit, if you use ability that damages, it will turn off
bugs bzzt
BUT mul-t with saw and nail enters here
if you hold either m1, he will get the buff back
yup
feathered plum
I feel like void whip is quite possibly one of the most wanted void items
Void atg creates void reaver artillery
I've seen hundreds of mentions about possible applications
🤓
I am so excited for the new update
Same
gonna be hard to wait
Like 3 more months or so
Thankfully I'm a very patient person thank to console cert times
Doubt it will be in the winter
It's gonna be 2022 quarter 1
ror2 makes me sweat, new update not being in summer is probably a good thing
if it doesn't get released in summer that is
quarter one is jan feb and march
I am aware
so im guessing somethime in feb when release or if we very lucky jan
im hoping the dlc is only about 20 or so
It will be less than the base game for sure
if it's in march I won't mind cuz it means they'll have more time to work on it
As far as I'm aware dlcs are 3-4 major content updates in size
And base game consists of 5? I don't remember
Maybe 6 including anniversary
But it's not major
getting another content update march will be pog
could cost the same
Can't??
Honestly risk of rain is under pricrf
If it's measured by the amount of content it's definitely less than the base game
If they need to make the dlc about or more expensive id say go for it
they can price it what ever they want
i love this community
jan? nah unlikely
feb? ok sounds fine ig
march? CUUUUUUUUM LETSO GOOOO
CUM CUM CUM
CUM CUM CUM CUM CUM
I would prefer dlc next week 😈
i would prefer drg sale like
now
Not a true fan, isn't rooting for cum
I just want the price to see how much I gotta save
Sorry I'm heterosexual I do not enjoy chugging semen
heck even if it costed 30$ i still buy it
Splitting the community into the poor and the rich 🙂
he ck yeah
though I think it might be 25-30 aussie dollars in price, what's that in USD? idk
We already do that
Pc or console
more then likely dlc will be around the same price as base game i think
Yeah it seems to be shaping up to be a doubling of content
we are getting so much stuff added that seems like a good spot
i want more non mod skins i already have everything in game
Literally do not care about skins
I care
I'm unlockable content hungry
alot of ppl care about skins
more skins would be cool
Anything that has no practical use is 🛌
like a new skin for beating the new alt final boss thats void themed
You have no practical use 
what about for beating that new alt gamemode?
I can relate but
we are getting a new alt final stage and boss wit i forgot
and a new alt gamemode
yah just remebered
Mostly because I have not grown enough to the point where I can contribute anything 🙂
Grown both mentally and physically
i want the new void bussling fungi now
Wungus
Literally a starstorm item
My beloved
what does wungus taste like?
Goobo
ik im already building a infinite goobo build
MEATSHROOMS
Goobo Senior final boss
Wungus tastes like the blood in your mouth after the contact light crashed here
Wungus tastes like that empty feeling in your gut when you found them, those purple lizard tearing apart your friends
scavenger with goobo jr
Wungus tastes kinda like a shitty smarties
so im taking a wild guess here one of the new characters is beat the new alt final stage
Wungus tastes like the rage you felt as you slaughtered them all
assuming so
and its name lieutenant
I want more monster survivors
that be cool we tenicly have 2
I want weaver 🤓
We dont have enough
I want more robots, i want more konsyers
Fuck mankind, they're over and done woth
Fucked up lizards are the future
acrid moment
posion doggo king
this should be an ability
Commando alt unlock?
camndo slides
fr
yep
I get why but I'm bummed we won't be getting new abilities in the dlc
Slows time, allows for better aiming etc,
okay it's 4:41 am, I'm going to bed, night fellas
well no not slow time but slide and shooting
basically exact same as what it does in max payne
Gn napper have your nap
that be to broken
I will steal your eyes
And i think you're wrong
don't have none
Slows time would be a cool ability
bollocks to balance, commando is dogshit anyway
needs a decent piece of kit
and hoppo wont add a broken move like that im possitive
if u want something like that get mods to do it
wait if we are getting a new elite monster dose tat mean new aspect?
Can't wait for modders to poorly port the whole dlc
Obviously
i kinda wish aspects were a bit more common then what they are now
like still rare but not non existent
Maybe but aspects are dogwater except for overloading anyway
I hope wungus has cool vfx
I do like Celestine in coop doe
Like the fungus grows when you sprint and covers your head and shoulders
id dore fire and overloadng on multi
Blazing generally sucks outside of earlygame or for deathmark
Overloading basically gives you like x1.5 more damage
So it's at least decent
gd2 moment
what did i miss?
also, not really, blazing is pretty amazing on fast attackers if you're just going for 6mm or stage 8 obliteration
like, triple damage on mando's m1 is quite a lot
I literally just said it's only good for earlygame
Other than that blazing is pretty underwhelming
I'm not saying it's bad
oh, you're definition of early game is way different from mine it seems
for me it's like stage 1 and 2 (and 3 while rushing) are early game, 3 and 4 (and 5 when rushing) are midgame, and 5-8 are lategame, after that it's pretty much just ultra late game, nothing really changing past that point meta wise
early game is norm stage 1-3 for most ppl i thought
For me earlygame is like the first two loops
thats not early game what so every though
that is a very loose definition for early, huh
Well I just feel that way
so does anything really change between your midgame and lategame item choices?
normally buy me 2nd loop i have my build finsihed
then go for as long as i can
wait now that i think about something what if to get to the new void stage or alt stage we do something in void feilds to prep it
oh god, i hope not, void fields is just 10 minutes of boredom for me
though maybe they rework it a bit in the dlc
i mean theres a hidden theng u actiavte so on a 5th stage it gose to the alt stage
i always goto void stage cuase free items with not to much work
see so far the only void thing we have is the void fields and reavers
A combination of words that brings terror to every ror2 player.
oof
I survived tho.
Acrid best survivor
eeeeeeh acrid is my number 2 i like bandt
bandit role is further than acrid anyways
i dont even like acrid that much im just lazy to change roles
early access order haven't been changes for years
im toxic and acrid represents it well
also looks cool when i show off antimithrix macrid wins likes that
Antimithrix macrid?
killing mithrix with melee acrid
true
you can kill mithrix with acrid by poisoning him once and then running away for a few hours
well, poison only lasts 10 seconds
It does?
yes but that's hella boring
latching onto his ass and biting it is 10x funnier
Huntress Monsoon: Strafe or Flurry? I feel like Flurry makes the run more RNG dependent since you need crit chance to have damage, but also if you're not getting a lot of crit chance the run is probably dead anyway, and it snowballs better.
I mean if you just loop it's a no brainer flurry. If you only go to mithrix without looping and really not a fan of how flurry starts out, you won't miss much picking strafe
I haven't been looping, maybe I should? I feel like keeping up huntress's damage becomes harder and harder the further you go. Monsoon scales so fast
I've gotten to the boss twice now, died on phase 3 both times lmfao
from which attack are you dying mostly?
The one where he teleports back and forth then swings. I've mostly gotten the hang of dodging it, but both times the fight went on for like 15 minutes. It was inevitable i'd eventually slip up
wow that's really long
Yeah I was basically just slowly chipping him down haha
what kind of strategy do you have moving on from stage to stage?
I try to get anything within line of sight on the way to the teleporter, but I don't hang around too long. Been getting to the final stage around the 30 minute mark
my last huntress mithrix kills were purely crowdfunder actually lmao, I might not be the best advisor if I neglect the character in this way hhhh
Crowdfunder is kinda hilarious, honestly if I got lucky with a royal capacitor or something it would make the fight a joke
Just because having to stay in-range of huntress's super short lock on distance means you're always in harm's way
feel free to extend it to 40 minutes, sky meadows spawns max 1 elite lem like that usually if spawns any at all, spawns on sky meadows were nerfed in anniversary
I'll give it a shot! I might go for an obliteration too just to try it
mhm
Lunar Pool, carrying Ruin Special, Defiant Gouge, Transcendence, and Gesture, as Huntress
"What are the odds that it'll take Gouge and give me an Irradiant Pearl?"
Does exactly that
"...What are the odds it'll take Ruin and give me a second Irradiant Pearl?... Naw. ... ..."
Does exactly that
@tired axle
Neat name
green beans
about a 33% chance
it's a lot higher than it was before, since the chance has been raised drastically from 4% to 20%
Uh its a lot lower chance than that
ah, you're right. It's a 0.33% chance lol
Yeah bc it's both the chance of getting 2 in a row, on top of having it specifically take Gouge and-- yeah
I'm big smart
"33%" kek
Mfw gesture braindead
Lowkey do you guys think Gesture should be nerfed in any way?
Because it's so much of a gimme. Unlike the other lunar items it's almost always best to take it when able
Except only for like... Recycler
And even then it's just a little irritating
I feel like it should be nerfed, but no nerf so far has met my expectations of a fair nerf
in all seriousness, I think tonic needs more of a nerf than gesture
just increase cool down or decrease uptime
Stacking gestures should each give you an effect called “drowned” where every 30 seconds you gain an effect that stops regeneration and reduces your healing by 50% for x seconds
Thats been my suggestion for most of the time
ehm
that sounds crippling
The effect wouldnt be insanely long
And it wouldnt stack up the more gestures you have
What about a soft nerf? First gesture doesn't effect cooldown times. Additional gestures do reduce cooldown time, but less than a fuel cell does.
Would still make it a really boring lunar, but also mediocre
Which is worse imo
Maybe just have it reduce cooldown times less in general?
I think glass should reduce your health to 50%+1 so you can never die, even at 128 stacks
Why does it matter, youre never reaching 128 stacks lmao
But it's funny to die from that. Who is ever going to do that accidentally
it feels silly that literally every normal item (technically including crit glass and tritip) can stack to literally billions before the game crashes and it only taks 128 stacks for glass to not work and that literally kills your run
..me
....twice
America explain
lol
Mfw stacking critglasses above 10 does literally fucking nothing so stacking them to crash the game would only really work by reaching integer overflow or something
I was seeing how high my base damage could get before I died to a wisp or something and then I picked up my 128th lol
does literally fucking nothing
at least it doesn't kill you
so stacking them to crash the game would only really work by reaching integer overflow
yes, that was the exact example I was thinking of when I said "literally billions"
Yeah so that example sucks
You are proving my point
howso
Stacking 128 gestures on dml also usually nearly crashes if not entirely, the game
Obviously you just become so fragile that merely your blood hitting against your veins' walls was enough of an impact that that alone killed you 
Stacking 128 warbanners does some shit too
just covers the whole map lol
Lags me a bit
Highkey stoked to learn the void item effects
Some items that are garbagio might have dope void versions. Like bungus on non-engies becoming healing on sprint
But again stacking 128 of a lot of items brings the game to its knees
no, stacking 128 gestures on dml hits dml's rocket limit, so I know this is wrong
Huh, i remember doing that at some point and causing issues
Couldve been proc chain bs
I got 128 gestures on command 
I've had literally thousands of transc before
granted, it was a meme run where I used aerolt, but it still existed lol
Anyone know any good MUL-T skins btw? I was browsing thunderstore for MUL-T skins but he gets no love skin-wise it seems 😔
Sherman tank mult skin
prestigious is kinda cool, if you like gold
Shopping cart mult skin
Yeah and one of them is a weird meme thicc skin and the other two are basically MUL-T but with a ribbon on it
I always felt like most gold reskins in games were a bit tacky, but that's just me
she's in a jar
the captain one looks super good, and all the others are sorta meh
Whats in the jar
artificer
Ok so i just beat Ror2 in drizzle im gonna do it in rainstorm next
anyone got tips for dealing with clay dunestrider as bandit
seems impossible to get behind for crits and bleed
also found the smoke bomb is not enough to get out of the sucky thing
seems very hard to deal with maybe im just bad tho
my copium is that bandit is just a bad survivor
that's some copious amounts of copium
you can easily get behind him when he performs lifted up attack
sprint around while he doing the normal attack to avoid it completely
they roll around, avoidable by good jump timing
do you refer to his transition to the succ skill? stay further away from him when he's at 33%
that checks out
the other stuff is still hard to deal with
i unironically do think hes a bad survivior tho
ok the balls are kinda bullshit sometimes
assuming you mean dunestrider
usually they're ok but their tracking is kinda the j
that's why i said good
one time i avoided the balls
cuz yeah, if you fuck up the first jump you will get hit by all others
and then for some reason the terrain behind me made them decide they should
literally do an 180
and then all hit me in the back
and if you are on the super circular terrain they just go back at yuo
I FINALLY DID IT
Congrats! ❤️
thank you! But I still have work to do
Eclipse? 😄
Oh yeah logs. I don't stress about them as much. Focusing on the achievements atm. Still haven't done mercenary's time trial one. Hnnggh
I didn't stress about them either, but now that I'm at the end of the road I am now
Yeah I'm probably going to be in the same boat
Does anyone know what a Fusion cell is? I just got killed by one apparently
there's an image of a ? in the info box death screen
the exploding barrels on rally point
I finally got the REX Smoothie skin last night
GOD I feel good. That took me so long
good job dude!
Next up on my list is to get Loader’s Thunderdome and then Acrid’s skin and Scavenger kill
Oh yeah, did I mention I only get my Mastery skills by beating Mithrix?
hmm, I'm still working on getting REX and the captain
I have already finished unlocking all of loader's and engi's skills
I mean Mythrix is cool but obliteration is more viable for the tanky bois
It is, but I love the challenge of fighting Mithrix
im really struggling unlocking gesture :(((
use this 
Mithrix is the best boss
ok, but what if you just did
yall have any braincells I can borrow for a 25 minute speedrun for loader?
play acrid instead
also play on monsoon and without any helpful artifacts like command, sacrifice and swarms
lol
i would also make a joke about not using lunars, but i actually used those on that run so
i also used the command portal below skymeadows on stage 5, since times doesn't move there and you get can got free items while also basically skipping a stage
for time managment just don't loot at all before the tele and only get chests that are semi close to it afterwards
you have pretty great mobility as loader, so if you can get a good swing even a chest that's 100 meters away can count as close
average enforcer mod fan vs average nsfw huntress mod enjoyer
oh, good, this is unrelated to me, thought i accidentally uploaded something where i had femmod active
why do you have a femmod installed anyway
in my defense, their artificer skin looks really cool
they went with like a cultist kinda thing, with a hood and all
i wish there was a safe for work version of it tbh
do you guys think 7 clovers is enough
so i beat mithrix with bandit having gesture of the drowned x1 capacitor and fuel cell x 1
nice
backstabbing passive of bandit is real strong, you just delete stuff
yup
im new to this game how do i beat monsoon
This is the spotify photo shift for "The rain formally known as purple"
That "beetle" looks just luke the green beetle in the latest Dev log gif
Not sure if anyone pieced that together yet
that's a beetle queen
it was your mom

nuked
I think most people agree that green beetle thing is actually a green rat
I sure hope so, because it's pretty obvious
ok but what is commando doing
riding mom bug
@merry karma honestly looks pretty balanced
100 predatory
this is the code i used btw
i think this is just part of savage ror2 now, it's kinda funny
yeah, i'll keep it
damn
vroom vroom :)
look at gd1 :)
...
i dont think it was a green beetle, to me it seemed like a new enemy type, some green rat looking thing
You're right, I just took another look and that does look more like a rat lol.
lil rat thing my beloved ❤️
wat the dog doin
..........
.............
in yall opinions, if was going on a 2 man moonson run, who should we play?
Captain and merc probably
I think personally that a lot of things would apply, like what artifacts you have enabled and game experience
whoever you want
you can beat monsoon as everyone but characters with synergy might have an easier time
captain + engi with the healing beacons for example
huntress + bandit/mul-t for a balance between single-target and aoe
and if you want actually effective aoe you could play merc 
merc has good dps if you do ethereal and get slicing winds but otherwise he tends to just abuse iframes all day
bandit and acrid?
nevermind the game doesnt hate me
oof
engineer and scout
huntress has very lame aoe with lame dmg
unironically outdpsed by bandit m1ing things individually and for smaller things he can just smoke bomb
if you want big aoe / crowd control you go
- merc
- arti
- maybe engi with good items
- maybe acrid
doesnt bandit outdps most characters
glaive dmg is a bit crappy in general
if you use it against two beetle guards on stage 2 they dont even get to half hp
i mean liek even against many enemies her aoe is still worse than banfit
bandit doesnt even have to actually use anything else than m1 to outdps her at multi target
glaive is very limited
and yeah his early game m1 is 2200-2666% dps with crit factored in
huntress with all glaive bounces is like 650%~ or something
when you stack glasses/backup mags huntress is really strong
not really
backup mags are nice but still a lil stronger on other survivors
a godsend on her m2 tho gives her good aoe
crits are nice with flurry but
- early game flurry is irredeemable pure garbage
- even with crit its still worse than most m1s with crit
actually flurry w/ full crit gets outdpsed by a lot of m1s even when they dont have crit...
huntress damage is horrendous in general
her base dps is half of the other survivors when they use good loadouts
i play eclipse and i can assure you she isnt as stunted as you might think
the only survivors i can think of that are lower than double her dps, at least single target as for commando, are
- commando with no phase blast
- mercenary with eviscerate
- artificer with ion surge
- engineer with no alts
I eclipse 8'd multiple survivors
ditto
including huntress
her damage is objctively dogshit but
in eclipse 8 she becomes a lot relatively better, but shes not the only one that accomplishes that
and in the hands of most experienced seasoned players shes generally considered the weakest oversll
because her damage and scaling is just worse
phase blink is a redeeming quality but absolutely a crutch-y one
like not saying its great but its less potent as you get better at WASD
thats why huntress is generally not regarded as a great survivor on par with others and not very prefered by most seasoned players
she is absolutely very strong for newer players and more forgiving though, thats why her monsoon clear rate is actually the highest amongst the whole playerbase
but the tiny skill floor incurs tiny skill ceiling
because of phase blink?
amongst other things
autoaim, ballista being easy, etc
the only thing that holds her back is her base kit
normal blink is fine but
arrow rain proc coefficient is so bad
isnt she the squishiest character in the game
she is but its not a big deal
its only like -16% hp from the next step up which is also the most common hp bar in the game
I'd argue phase blink and her overall nice range combat wise more than compensates
lowest defense survivor is probably artificer
but well played arti does an excelent job at not being overwhelmed, quickly neutralizing threats and dodging with chad wasd to the point i wouldn't really call her low defense in the slightest, perhaps relatively low
nanobomb guaranteed stun + ice wall works wonders
speaking of arti shes really good on eclipse
i'd say that one doesn't apply to captain, he might as well not have an m2
Yes really
You keep calling her weak and shitting on her but fail to realize, somehow, that what spicybullfrog said is true. For the enemies you fight those things are more than enough on huntress
And the items do nothing but help her power output
Once again I am forced to tell you huntress "haters" that she is just weak compared to other characters (which is also kinda bullshit but whatever) but not weak relative to the game itself
The "huntress weak" argument is just bullshit all around
basically, the game is weak
Exactly that.
Sure, at first you might struggle with Huntress because, while her DPS output is guaranteed besides Ballista it is still low
But later on in the game you will get items that make you stronger and help you deal with threats more efficiently
And later on doesn't mean stage 20+
Even as far as stage 2 or 3 you can get pretty powerful as huntress
mfw huntress is the only character to keep the game fun in powertopower comparison but ultimatively fails due to autoplay mechanics
eh, i don't even think you normally struggle in the early game with her, maybe stage 2 where enemies generally get a big boost in health compared to your damage but other than that she's fine
Yeah true the only thing that makes her somewhat "struggle" is how slow her m1 is
That's it.
Oh and I guess big cooldowns on m2 and R
But THAT'S it
also her low health which actually matters in early game, though she does have good in combat mobility to balance that one out
@tired axle hey withor check out this full loot time
very cool
it also had bad routing
yeah, phase blink's mobility helps a bit for that
another reason why huntress is great for new players
I died 😔
giga copium
i didnt say shes weak i said sshes weaker
ok cool but so does everyone else
Yes thats what i said...
to a seasoned played she is generally weaker than other survivors most of the time yes??? I myself even in practice have commando drastically outperform her in everything but aoe usually and everyone else is just straight up above
this was 90% rng btw
youre usually held back by money gathering time
you dont ""struggle"" as her usually but her damage is still weaker, her item synergy in exchange is worse, her aoe is unimpressive and she is always the most likely to fall behind
and all you get in return is a crutchy skill
i do get it
youre really just on
big copium
if anything i hate her strenghts the highest out of like all of ss """" members """" (degens)
gabbo when
when someone says something remotely negative about huntress (not enough copium)
yeah sure
just play whoever you like bruh
illegal
fun is BANNED
that means ROR2 is banned due to it being a fun
Introducing:
The League of Legends Expansion
RoR2 is now a 6v6 top-down MOBA
no more fun has been achieved
“TAKE THE BUNGUS”
“BUNGUS IS DOGSHIT DUDE, GO BACK TO BOT”
Hehehe I’m a engi main but not what you think!
hey so i finished the game i defeated mithrix and escaped and unlocked the last hero, but i didnt get the new color for loader, did i do something wrong?
hello wakan hello wakan
uhhh you must beat the game on hard difficulty 
np :)
huntress issue
dying stage 2 out of telly
with cracked item rng
yes she is weak compared to other characters. thats literally the main metric for rating characters you troglodyte
I was getting swarmed by glacial stone titans and overloading bighorn bisons
literally huntress issue, most other classes couldve survived with those artifacts
But she is not weak relative to the game. You troglodyte.
Everybody on this godforsaken server makes it sound like huntress is so shitty and weak that you can't get good runs as her
While she is one of the most consistent survivors in the whole game
Huntress is overhated but I really think she needs some fine tuning
yeah she is fine you can still win runs with her but her flurry relies on critglasses, her dps relies heavily on item rng, and her autoaim is boring as fuck. she is also the weakest survivor in the game
by far
relative to the game doesnt matter when we are talking survivor strength, survivor strength is rated relating to other survivors
Those are all fair arguments, except the autoaim part
That's her whole appeal alongside the whole being super evasive
i may have a garbo opinion but Artificer is the weakest smh
garbage opinion/skill issue/get better at the game
And I'm all for it because I also believe she needs a few buffs here and there to truly feel good
she has some of the best damage output and crowd control in the game
but no mobility
I think she's fun when you don't sprint as her but that's literally because it's a hard challenge and it goes against the entire character
so like :reeoiwshgoiehsrg
Y'all just dislike how huntress is designed
Well, how she works I should say
She is designed to be a glass cannon but does not work that way
yeah if it were up to me I'd just completely rework her
Huntress enjoyers like myself love the aspects that you and many others dislike
Thankfully there's more than 1 survivor in the game and you can just choose not to play the one you dislike
Much like I really wanna like Artificer but she requires too much effort for me to like her playstyle without using artifacts like sacrifice
she doesn't really require effort imo
i think a better word would be like
being used / skillful with the survivor
like once you get past the initial barrier she doesn't really take more effort to play than other survivors
She takes more effort than merc imo
ye, she is realy fragile and doesn't have mobility/way to mitgate dmg
same
i hope that in the Dlc she will get a alt ability to the ice wall where she could blink or idk get a fire armor or something like that. i also hope that they change her m1 projectile speed

I think that loader is the hardest character to play
thas crazy bro
as a loader main, loader is a free W
I honestly don't use loader because out of all the melee characters they're like, at the bottom in terms of aesthetics
double saw MUL-T is probably the most pleasing melee character (if a little unviable)
meleecrid pog
question what surviver do i have to play to get 12/12 ive even got the brid
pee pee poo poo
gd2 when people are actually present
hi
https://twitter.com/Joy74193850/status/1455392641315586049?s=20 can someone explain this? Clayman?
maybe it's the uh clay templar log book but it bugged into saying clayman
which would mean clayman was supposed to be in ror2 aswell
but it probably is nothing too special, just another console bug to the pile of them
clayman is a scrapped enemy yeah
it's bugged
havent played in awhile but just had these insane first 2 loops
wish i had more time tonight to do more stages
Had a pretty decent run
Noice
Try getting 200 bungus then we’ll talk
Run invalid: 2 shield gens remove osp
yall got any monsoon tips, I feel like I cant get my survivability up enough in non control runs
are you having trouble on rainstorm?
no
how much time do you spend/stage on monsoon?
yes
you can do full clears/mostly full clears in 5-6 mins
a few mins longer is still good, but 15 is too much
yeah
risk bloodshrines and battle shrines
bloodshrines are safer because they are instant and can't spawn a overloading elder lemurian on stage 5
plus you can abuse bloodshrines with 
leave chance shrines for last
or maybe use it once
unless you are captain, then it's just 2 free items
how is it free on cap
hacking beacon
anyways, try going faster
collect whatever items you can but don't go to the other side of the map just for one chest
plan a route around the maps
😔 no funny
funny is forbidden, you're in gd2
Haha look at the gd2 peasants
you're now a citizen of gd2, hand over your funny now or you'll be terminated
Who me?
Awesome
get back into gd1 you cave dweller attacking gd2 citizens is a crim
im the law here
hi
good
how about you? :)
thank you!! you too :)
i'll cyberbully you out of your funny rights
100 social gd2 credits have been deducted from your account. your loot table now will exclude
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gd1 > gd2
Gd1 < death
damn gd2 must suck
that's so well done lmao
can someone help me get better at 
don't get hit you soyboy
What are you having issues with specifically?
As it hit stages 4 and 5 and I can’t really kill the bosses and don’t get me started with mithrix
how long into the run you are usually by the time you reach stage 4/5?
I usually try to hit stage 4 by 14 minutes
or spend less time looting since time is also really important early on
"spend a bit more time looting"
"spend less time looting"
The duality of RoR2 players
Honestly 14 minutes for stage 4 is fast as fuck, despite what some people might say slowing down might help you out
The time jumps forward a ton every time you teleport to the next stage. You can't out-race it, just out-scale it
Also try to do void fields as early as you possibly can. An extra 9 items (including a red!) on stage 1 is way more huge than on like, stage 4. It can easily make a run start cascading into absurd levels of power
the difference is they're separate strategies
spend a bit more time looting
this is called full looting (for obvious reasons) and it's one of the more extreme strategies. The idea is that you will out scale enemies through picking up items, and so you don't have to worry about the timer
spend less time looting
this is called rushing, because you're trying to get to the teleporter as fast as possible. The idea is that you don't have to worry about out scaling enemies, because they can't scale if you go through stages fast enough
picking either one will change how you learn, but in my humble opinion (plus mostly everyone in the server's who's actually good at the game), taking a couple extra items will help you more than trying to rush.
Woolie is a big creator who is an adamant advocate for the rushing technique, and in his words, it's not a steadfast rule, just a good guideline to learn the basics to get better.
hope this helped
Yeah it depends on the character too tbh, some like Huntress scale very well with items yet are pretty useless without them, others like MUL-T can shred up to stage 3 with literally just their starting kit
very true
commando, for instance, is going to do wayyy better with items, however Loader is really good without
just came to the realization that blood shrines on eclipse are next to not worth it, given you lose 50% max health just by using it three times
you mean for eclipse?
eclipse blood shrines are pretty great for early stages specially if your damage is already high
and the first 1-2 uses dont really hurt
health cut off is not that big of a deal
er- yes
forgot to add that part lol
one sec i have a video
30% of damage taken is permanent though, right?
not eclipse 8 but
bro look at that moneeyy
specially when you play high hp characte
like 160 hp would give me nearly 1.5x the gold per use
I aim for <14 mins as for getting onto round 4 solo but I always rush void fields after stage 1
So usually take longer stage 1 then blast thru 2 and 3
Not sure if that’s ideal tho
rushing is generally never ideal
don't worry about minutes per stage, thats counterproductive because difficulty skips foward during stage transition
focus on trying to get the most items as possible per minute (which generally involves looting most, preferably all chests you find in a stage)
someone here made some data and even if you assume an exagerated time of 8 minutes per stage and arrive at commencement at 40 minutes, you still get more items / difficulty than most rushing strategies
this is not including bonuses from void fields or hidden realms
howhever if you get a lot of items early on with void fields then i guess rushing makes a little more sense? specially if you get lunars too, provided you loot stage 4 and 5 very well
actually on second thought yeah
getting stacked on items in void fields then rushing stage 4 - 5 sounds pretty good
@near jay what survivor do you play as?
if you're using a survivor that hits fast and you're comfortable not taking damage with then
sounds good for you
you can get one while you go to the bazaar for the stage 1 void fields, and then use it to speed up your looting by a lot across stages 2-4
Brittle crown is so nice







That looks like someone is trying to be sneaky and take a peek at you but you see them anyways
yeah its usually easy to rush a couple stages after void fields. Usually lol theres some red items that arent that useful that early. but when i say rush i mean hitting the TP when you find it then spending whatever you have afterwards. I play loader/huntress/commando & bandit
yeah thats good
basically anyone mobile except\ im not smart enough to play merc
for commando brittle crown is extremely good
huntress has a pretty low proc rate but shes easy to dodge
bandit has better proc rate
yeah uh he fires fast so brittle crown makes money fast
as long as you dont have purity
bandit and loader u can rush those early bosses
yeah bandit's early game dps is braindead
like about 2-3x the other survivors
sometimes 1.5x
personally i advocate for trying both rushing and looting before seeing what fits you
it's honestly a matter of what playstyle yields you success
we gotta talk about the happy medium too here guys. We've had a great back and forth about the full rush verses full loot
Woolie talks about rushing with about 5min per stage to learn the game. For me it taught me what items really make a big impact. So in the early stages if my items are really bad I knew I needed better items if I wanted this run to go on longer, so I would loot more. If I saw that my items were really quite good, I would go maybe faster then usual. Ive had times where I have great items but I had to loot longer so I go straight for TP. Then I used tp gold to buy a few chests around the tp then just left. Maybe 3min for that stage. Then I have times where I have a full defense build on stage 2, just scraping by the tp, making a plan to make sure to get some good items even if it takes me longer on stage 3.
I think the "skill" here is learning the balance of when to rush vs loot.
This game is filled with RNG and you can only do so much. You can only outplay the enemies, spend more time/less time on a stage, to a point. If you end up with still only defense items and a desk plant for your only red, runs basically over. Unless you want to try luner items to get a boost in power

Thats just my opinion. Its a hard learning curve to understand the context of your run for sure, but it will come with time
Please do give feedback if something was totally off because Im always up for learning more about the game
people arguing about rush vs loot for decades
yet woolie almost never follows his 5 minute rule and even talked about it
yet people keep coping about joke video
ik ik -_- its a very greek way of thinking to me. Its like. 'There is only one right way, and the other ways have to be bad.'
literally yes its depends on game state and context, there's no point in following one of two extremes which are full loot or rush
if i see a glasses printer on stage1 you can bet your sweet keister that i'll full loot for every single white
even if it takes 10 minutes
quite literally
and then the chests keep giving me greens 
rip
and yet another great example of how the rng still governs all
only point to fallow one of the extremes is to take it out of context of this conversation a little bit and talk about drizzle and rainstorm. Or just to mess around and see how far you can get rushing. But as I said, that takes it out of context of "getting better at monsoon"
Even talking about eclipse the strategies vary in different areas.
I can't really weigh in on eclipse though, my 350 hours are mostly monsoon. Would love to learn eclipse better though. That's been my final leg in my ror2 journey as of yet.
i say just start doing them, the only big changes are the smaller tp zone, the extra fall dmg that can kill you, and monsters attacking faster
the other ones are neglegable for the most part
Ive only got to eclipse 7 on one character so far. I think I'm just having trouble adjusting to the faster attack rates
i went through 1-8 with one char before starting a new one
i finished one of the bandit runs as herectic
i think it was e4 or 5
idk what's the essay for lol
it's already been debunked that full looting is the best BUT it's up to preference whether you rush or full loot
what if we could unlock the umbra skins to use on our characters
mom, can we get umbra skins?
no, we have umbra skins at home
umbra skins not at home:
We are just having a discussion about the game. If you have some thoughts to share go right ahead
Tell me more?
I would REALLY like it if we could get more skins with this dlc for all the characters. I think that would be pretty rad.
yea
absolutley
why time is a meme: time factor contributes way less than stage one in the formula for difficulty, meaning best way to scale with ambient difficulty is to gather as much strength as possible by the end of each stage. taking time for minmaxing would've punish on sky meadows before anniversary update, but
Sky Meadows
Reduce initial map monster spawns by -24% (also way less tanky parens along with easy ass grandparent boss)
happened and like
sky meadows is just no longer punishes you for entering it in ~35 minutes mark and the more items you have the better
rushing is good when you about to fall asleep because,,
you get slightly outscaled by stage difficulty spikes, relying more on your knowledge and experience with a character you are playing
I personally have never tried this strategy before, mostly because I play on monsoon. Have you used this on monsoon?
I feel I get pretty consistent first loops with the strategy discussed before. Has this strategy been consistent for you?
Ive also taught a few friends how to play, and we always go further in our runs when we have a generally faster pace, not looting the whole stage.
multiplayer is actually weird cup of tea
i would say leaving some stuff in the favor of time is better with mp scaling
i only play drizzle command sacrifice
winning each time
Can't argue with that I guess
lmao
I see. I just play Vanilla. I like mods every so often but I hardly even use artifacts.
and even with slightly upped ambient scaling going sub 5 is just worse
I will have to try the whole full looting thing
yknow what imma actually play the game
True. After all, there might be 2 people looting and 2 people searching all the wrong spots and finding nothing so the overall looting is only at half efficiency and it may be better to just do boss unless you want half the team to fall behind.
Multiplayer will always be inconsistent to be honest. Never know what skill or knowledge level any of the other 3 players will be.
also big one against rushing: missing mountain shrines
Yes! Hit all 6 mountain shrines! It's the only way!
im so fucking bitter after i find one untouched after tp
I'm not being sarcastic. insane numbers of mountain shrines is crazy fun.
I don't feel like I miss very many mountain shrines. I generally get a good idea of what's on the whole map before hitting TP. I like to see whats there to see if I want to commit the time and resources it would be to farm an area. Dont want to miss any large chests either
Well, think of it this way: as you get items, your power goes higher and higher to the point where you can afk and everything dies.
Monsters get stronger as time goes on, but not as much.
So you scale with items better than monsters scale with time.
Yes indeed, at what stage do you think you start to see that fated 'god run'
Depends more on what items. I've had runs where I've basically won at stage 1 and others where I struggle 10+ stages long.
Exactly
When u guys say rush do u mean rush to boss then spending whatever money u have afterwards
Or literally like no chests
Well, it usually goes like this when I end up playing with people who like to rush: boss = dead, portal is hit, I have 4 unopened chests in front of me. 
I think now would be a good time to clarify the context of the conversation. Someone far back asked how to get better at Monsoon.
I have been giving advice best I know how, sharing what I've found to be the most CONSISTANT way to get up to that god run status.
I am learning as well, and I'm willing to try out a more farming style. Most of my advice goes just for the first 4+ stages. After we hit that 4th stage, its best to start farming a bit more. There is just more value in spending more time as the run goes on in each stage.
In late stages after you loop, you might have enough money to open everything after portal, but hitting boss would make people who fell behind die before they can open a single chest.
I don't think these strategies have been explained very well. Rushing to me isn't going straight to TP
that would be like, speedrunning
If you aren't already, try getting a healing item like bungus or slug first stage if you can. Blood shrines speed things up a TON.
Any way to get more money to open more chest faster (i.e. blood shrines, combat shrines) will help a lot
Yup, though combat shrines in stage 3+ is only advisable if you are confident that you can kill it without too much trouble.
Always mountain shrine no exceptions
Like a mobile turret engie, I'd hit all combat shrines since my turrets will kill it as I move on. Or acrid with poison.
I'll refer back to something I said earlier, the 'skill' here is finding the median.
very true
I don't think we really gave context to the conversation early one. I am mostly talking first 4 stages
I had one utterly ludicrus game with mobile turret engie and I was stacking gouges. Killed my team a few times, but it made my own looting so much faster as I spammed them shrines.
It was fun
mobile turret engie is very fun.
I can't give up that bungus though
...I never understood bungus. You get 1 amazing run out of 20 and are a sitting duck hoping to win the lottery for the other 19.
thats the gold there
Too inconsistent in my opinion.
this is true. There is another good point about just having fun, and playing the game to do the best you've done.
i may be having a bias with my god tier loot tho
Im not the best at explain that one though
Depending on character, might need more mobility or a volcanic egg.
that is some epic loot
yeah i feel like a fucking slug and i don't like it
i rarely playing anything but mander
mander?
ok guys
always rush
i just got two glacial elder lems
yikes
I'm usually at stage 3 before 10 min
i was just thinking about how i don't deal with elder lems on grove often an yeahh
24-30 minutes for me 
monsoon?
yea
sheeesh
Been awhile since I played, so I can't remember, but isn't that a long time?
it is lol
like, I NEVER get to stage 3 in under 10 minutes except for that one achievement that needed it, but 30 is a bit much.
I play really fast, and I get there is 10-12 minutes. Most of my friends it would be like 14 minutes
Well...It might be okay if he's playing acrid since acrid's damage would keep up.
not sure if anyone else could survive that though
i got to stage 3 at 16 miuntes because uuuh
4 minutes of pot rolling
and that screenie was as i went to sundered
ya know. True
pot rolling
I can see that
killed 2 of those elder lems, but lost the track of the third one and im afraid
dont worry about him! I'm sure he isnt sneaking up behind you or anything
aegis from the golden chest, im getting haunted by europe's curse
i just realized i haven't seen a single printer or scrapper
i guess this is the price of getting a militech printer
Aegis is probably the most overpowered underpowered item in the game. If you can use it, you basically win. If you don't find healing items, it's pure garbage.
eh, dashed right into overloading worm's mouth
balls
4??? HOW
gd2 > gd1
listen listen listen
I'm bad at the game but also I don't ever give up
So true
goobo free trial
+
is basically goobo jr now that I think about it
Well until it kills itself
Lol true
Was there any information if survivors will be getting more skills along the DLC?
idk but i hope engineer gets a new primary
i think when expansion comes out all characters will have at least 1 alternate for all their skills
If you kill yourself with fuel array and have dios and happiest mask it makes a goobo jr
I did it on engi once lol
Doesn’t have to be fuel array it could be chaos artifact meteor or Diablo strike
looks like no
Fast question, if Im trying to do mercenary special challenge but prismatic trials has something which lowerd my hp by 50%, is it impossible to do?
"curses" are fine for it
Eclipse Starts at baseline monsoon difficulty, 1 ally starting health: 50%
game thinks your new halved health is full health
Ok goodie
wrong alternate game mode
Wait eclipse or prismatic trials
eh, offline already
i thought they found shaped glass
it would've been hella cool tho
beating eclipse run without taking no damage whatsoever
Nvm Im dumb af and picked eclipse
check #prismatic-trials for a guide video
THEY just have to make these trials literally do painful if you wanna get the mercenary special
"dead enemies spawn whisps"
artifacts change each 3 days
even new coder said it's a "waiting out challenge"
a week ago there was piss easy one with kin (beetles and jellies) and glass
When did the trials last change?
there is a timer in top left corner
@lunar reef where are the houses!!!?!?!?! So many enemies yet I can’t see where any of them sleep!!!! What do they do when there not trying to murder me? Immersion ruined 🙄
thank you, IRS, very cool
they don't sleep, obviously
Excuses
have you ever seen any of them sleep?
have you ever watched a beetle sleep irl then?
Beetles sleep irl
ok, what about rocks then?
Cope harder
damn
Rock also don’t move around in real life@
unless if you throw em
The Rock
anyone know why it's called "risk of rain"? my friend wants to know and i don't know the answer. ping me if you have an answer

