Loaders alt abilities are all better imo except for like niche stuff or technical situations that are annoying to set up
#gd2-nullified
mossy kite
merry karma
loader is so op the loadout doesnt even matter
tired axle
though it does have worse band procs, worse movement and worse aoe
tired axle
oh right, that happens for some reason
hidden panther
listen it feels infinitely easier to use than default shift
tired axle
i guess it's only one variable that's wrong, but weird that they missed that
merry karma
wdym debatable
half kraken
movement wise some people will prefer merely being able to charge faster
and also not go through the enemy they're are attacking and fly 9900km away
tired axle
i mean, the momentum from the punch doesn't carry over as much, and you only move for half a second at 70m/s rather than 90m/s for a full second
tired axle
the shock cone can be great aoe too
also, i'd rather phrase it as easier aoe, since charged's aoe actually scales with the speed you build up
hidden panther
Cooldown management is also a hell of a lot easier with alt shift
jovial yoke
I just run spiked/charged/pylon. It's what I learned and it's what I have "fun" with if I'm playing lodr
hidden panther
Fair and like it’s been said I don’t think you can call any lodr kit bad
zinc kernel
o
marble jewel
It’s time
To farm FMP lunar coins
1 soul cat, 1 gesture, 2 cells, 1 FMP…. 5 clovers
hidden panther
FMP can drop lunars?
high torrent
yeah
coin drop is an on kill effect that has a chance to occur on any death
so simulating death can drop them
tired axle
1 soul cat, 1 gesture, 2 cells, 1 FMP…. 5 clovers
Clover doesn't affect coin chance
tired axle
Also the chance halves every time you get a coin
mossy kite
gd1 rn
tired axle
So like, the first is gonna take 100 fmps, the second 200, then 400, etc
Basically, you're not gonna get a lot of coins like this, doing drizzle obliteration runs is faster
high torrent
lodr go swingy swing
tired axle
Or cheat them in like any normal person and don't waste your time
high torrent
unless copesole
weak dragon
Or cheat them in like any normal person and don't waste your time
But the integrity... I wanna show off my wealth when I earn it not when I cheat it.
high torrent
it's not as much wealth as much as ez tonic gesture brrrr brainded gameplay
i think its better to do showoffs by your monsoon only winrate
merry karma
ephemeral > vanilla gaming = cheating if you don't abuse it > cheating
tired axle
Honestly, default settings ephemeral is basically the same as cheating of you don't abuse it, you get like way too many coins
frosty crane
what is ephemeral
summer terrace
default drop rate for ephemeral coins is definitely too high especially for cost changes
summer terrace
what is ephemeral
it's a mod that makes lunar coins reset every run
frosty crane
wouldnt it be easier to mod in a crap ton then forget about it?
summer terrace
nah not having an infinite amount is kind of the point
quasi river
Clover doesn't affect coin chance
Am sad
quiet panther
E
jovial yoke
@limpid briar My friend @worldly olive is curious as to how you have almost 7 thousand hours in risk of rain 2 
limpid briar
You were misinformed. I don't have 7 thousand hours in Risk of Rain 2.
jovial yoke
My apologies.
slow idol
I got into playing loader so much that idk what ranged survivor to play now
high torrent
merc
slow idol
I don't like his kit
high torrent
just get slicing winds
slow idol
I forget to use my abilities too much to play him efficiently
high torrent
ujhgghhjkjv
slow idol
ujhgghhjkjv
You good?
high torrent
nah died
high torrent
he's really easy to get on loader, esp on drizzle
slow idol
I might give commando a second try
I couldn't even beat the first boss on my first run trying him lol I suck
high torrent
to actually play and enjoy commando you gotta get alt skills
night condor
Inferior chat
willow canopy
dead chat
zinc kernel
Gd1 2
indigo depot
fun fact: acrids r skill is agile
hidden panther
so is his m2 and shift
merry karma
so is regular hunterness blink
indigo depot
h u n t e r n e s s
merry karma
oh god the pinned messages here are so old
merry grove
A lot of skills need to have the agile tag added to them.
merry karma
@summer terrace can you pin 
elfin wigeon
Wyrm
tired axle
beeg
fluid notch
I agree
summer terrace
omg he big
merry karma
limber furnace
What mod is that lol
merry karma
no it doesnt exist there
tired axle
ya should play it, it's pretty fun
merry karma
i was just uh experimenting
the worm is real tho
merry karma
collider scaling is broken so they would appear clipped in the ground
limber furnace
<@!164043662785904641> can you pin <:happiesttroll:790347758732050463>
I can’t even tell what enemy that is lol
tired axle
is nebby gonna fix it any time soon?
merry karma
idk
tired axle
also, i still love this image so much
indigo depot
big chungus committing an illegal act 1989 colourised
dull ingot
fun fact: acrids r skill is agile
So is him m2
night condor
No. No it isn't.
merry grove
My man replying to a two year old message.
tired axle
second
merry karma
bazooker
night condor
Bad guy
crude bridge
Sticky bomb = baby raddle
high torrent
**No. No it isn't.**
bad take, wrong opinion, generate something better
worn falcon
languid yarrow
Bad guy <:happiesttroll:790347758732050463>
He tried to kill me and he’s a guy ergo he’s a bad guy
languid yarrow
I’m not and never have been 
hidden panther
i think you can make the argument your the good guy in 2 at least
dull ingot
causing planet genocide to get some people back doens't sound very cash money to me
just my humble opinion
full gale
We're called survivors, that's enough for me, we gucci
hidden panther
causing planet genocide to get some people back doens't sound very cash money to...
Well by killing mithrix you let the void reavers void the moon so if they are like space police you did them a solid
dull ingot
Well by killing mithrix you let the void reavers void the moon so if they are li...
eh maybe
obsidian comet
Hey has anyone else seen soup bowls that offer a white item in in exchange for a red item? I can't find anything on the wiki about this but i took this screenshot a couple days ago
I wasn't able to make the trade because i didn't have any red items on me, does it give you a lot of the white item or is it just a funny?
misty flax
it gives you either 3 or 5 of the white
obsidian comet
wildin
high torrent
like 3 goat hooves or 3 crit glasses for some brainstalks/aegis
sometimes it's just godly
tawny plaza
Honestly 3 warbanners is amazing in the mathrix fight
dull ingot
Hey has anyone else seen soup bowls that offer a white item in in exchange for a...
made this mistake last week and traded a behemoth for 3 gasoline
thought it was gonna take my white scrap and i was like "oh i could use some more gas"
misty flax
made this mistake last week and traded a behemoth for 3 gasoline
why the fuck would you do that
why would you even try to get gas during mithrix
dull ingot
why the fuck would you do that
read the next message i sent 👍
jovial yoke
The first time I saw one I pinged it and saw the funny [1 red] text. It was monster teeth 
dull ingot
like 3 goat hooves or 3 crit glasses for some brainstalks/aegis
aegis can low key make you invincible lol
scenic swift
I just tried to do the huntress no hit challenge and I got hit by a random off screen lesser wisp right after one shotting the teleporter boss 
dull ingot
idk man sounds like a skill issue
scenic swift
Maybe
I don't even play huntress much, I just wanna get the ballista for when I do play her more
marble verge
dull ingot
Maybe
I'm kidding lol
it's a /s moment my guy
that really sucks, but I bet you'll get it next time :D
scenic swift
Oh well thanks man
hollow dirge
I just tried to do the huntress no hit challenge and I got hit by a random off s...
stack topaz brooch for that btw since barrier damage doesnt count as health loss
aegis also works ig
zinc kernel
aegis can low key make you invincible lol
it can also not 90% of the time
tulip nimbus
What happened to game questions
scenic swift
stack topaz brooch for that btw since barrier damage doesnt count as health loss
Alright, good to know
Are the teddy bears also good to stack?
hollow dirge
What happened to game questions
hollow dirge
Are the teddy bears also good to stack?
It could be useful, but since its a chance to block, its not great to rely on it
probably best to just stack barrier related things
also tougher times scales hyperbolically im pretty sure, so it doesnt stack well
dull ingot
it can also not 90% of the time
You just need a few items:
Rejuv rack + coprsebloom + 70%+ crit + scythes
Instantly invincible with almost no problem 😎
slender sigil
just a few
slim kraken
spark pawn
mm beef soup
grave merlin
Hey there, I've been trying to complete my first MAAO run and it has been brutal. I've learned a lot over the last 50 attempts or so, most recently that I should stay in a stage until the Umbras spawn and then I should teleport away. Today I made it to stage 4 but got bonked by my umbras during the teleporter event.
Anyway, is it viable to try to kill mithrix or is obliteration the only real way to finish?
Also, is becoming the heretic worth it in the first shop in order to maintain consistency with who you are playing as?
silent tendon
glass
misty flax
obliteration is usually easier if youre better at endurance but mithrix is better if you have something to skip the pillars and to land a quick kill
grave merlin
There is usually enough orange command essence to guarantee an eccentric vase. You just need some way to get proc'ing during the fight while you spam Strides
I guess
I am hopeful that I will be able to finally knock it out tomorrow, but it's frustrating that you need a lucky first stage in order to get going. I'm not the kind to ever kill myself to restart, but dodging alley alloy vulture shots for 10 minutes is rough...
spark pawn
MAAO is the most rng dependent run you can have. In my experience it's best to hold off until you get an enemy you can farm easily. Your first red should be a ceremonial. Beetles are nice, and I'll stay for a good 10 minutes on that stage usually.
misty flax
yeah ceremonial is extremely powerful with glass
grave merlin
Yeah all of my most successful runs started with beetles or artificer (with the jump). She makes a lot of enemy loadouts easier.
spark pawn
if you can get a ceremonial then 5ish crowbars you're set for a while
grave merlin
Yeah my plan is always to farm a couple greens and then cash in at the bazaar
spark pawn
watch out for anything that could accidentally kill you, best to have all alts unlocked then switch around your build to be maao specific. that means using blight if you aren't already, in addition to a few other things.
grave merlin
Yeah I have all the achievements on steam. I'm grinding through all the eclipse runs and have switched to maao to shake it up a little
I guess good rng is all there really is to it.
I'll shoot for mithrix, maybe the chaos/swarms artifacts will make him take care of himself for the most part.
But I'll be sure to get Visions just in case I roll acrid, mercenary, engineer, or loader.
spark pawn
yea for sure
and a few raps will help early game, plus a single medkit will be all the healing you need for stages 1-3. topaz brooch, if you aren't already grabbing one or two, is really, really helpful.
grave merlin
I've just been going for the Never Get Hit strategy. One topaz brooch and then Strides.
spark pawn
Yeah, that'll work. Late game it's hard to survive a hit anyways.
grave merlin
A rap is nice to solve the soul wisps though
spark pawn
But for building yourself up to the point where you have enough mobility to manage that, yknow the above helps.
and for mithrix, just know his move set. you can't have them fight each other forever so you have to manage for when that happens.
don't touch kjaros bands but runalds is very helpful for the fight
grave merlin
Right. I've played a lot of eclipse so I'm not too worried about mithrix.
I think I'm just wasting too much time trying to complete the first stage how I want to when I've got a bad enemy or no newt altars or a bad survivor for it.
spark pawn
True, a lot of it is just dying and restarting because most of the time your starting conditions just won't work.
grave merlin
Yeah, I dont want to do it. Thankfully, if the spawn is too awful I dont have to suffer for long, even while trying my best.
spark pawn
honestly, and no one that's done a MAAO run wants to hear this, maao isn't that hard. or at least, it doesn't demand much skill. just luck, and lots of it.
grave merlin
Hopefully I'll be back tomorrow with a victory
spark pawn
👍 good luck
grave merlin
Thx
Maybe I've been treating it too much like Mercenary's Ethereal challenge. I just sat down one day and played and played and improved until I got it through skill and a little luck, instead of waiting out a time where I could brute force it with luck
And maao seems to require the luck bruteforce approach.
slow idol
Stun Grenade
limpid briar
honestly, and no one that's done a MAAO run wants to hear this, maao isn't that ...
I'd like to challenge that theory.
What is absolutely needed or is too difficult for it to be RNG?
The only thing that I would say is completely RNG based is the enemies having Unstable Tesla Coil as a legendary item or a Ukulele as a green item. ATG Missile MK. 1, if don't have Captain roll.
spark pawn
knock yourself out
limpid briar
You have to tell me what makes MAAO RNG based, I'll challenge it.
spark pawn
why
limpid briar
You stated that MAAO was just luck based and I want to know why or how it's luck based besides the mentioned I stated.
willow canopy
whats MAAO
tired axle
monsoon all artifacts on
grave merlin
You stated that MAAO was just luck based and I want to know why or how it's luck...
Though I tried to tell myself otherwise, which monster you face on the starting stage has more impact on your run than your own skill. Skill matters and is important, but facing beetles takes very little skill while facing alloy vultures or wisps (especially as mercenary) means skill cannot compensate for the luck.
When luck is so important that skill becomes of little consequence, the run is based on luck, not skill.
Also, the fact that items drop at all is luck based. Unlike a normal run, where there are guaranteed chests, there are no guaranteed items on the stage- just the boss item.
Though it would be very unlikely, you could get no items after 10 minutes of farming. I've had stretches where no items drop at all.
And then of course you have a random survivor. Newt altar spawns are mostly random, and maao runs depend on the bazaar a lot
tired axle
i mean, you could also get a stage with no chests at all if you're that unlucky
grave merlin
I could be wrong, but doesn't the director have inhibitions about spitting out only printers?
tired axle
nope, entirely random
grave merlin
Fair point then
tired axle
well, semi random, it uses weights, and each interactable costs a different amount of credits
night condor
Pink Ghor 🤨
tired axle
pink ghor
hidden panther
a dead ghor
near tendon
this one isn’t as good as the original
fickle swan
do people do fuel array % runs after getting the achievement? for fun or whatever?
I cheesed it with difficulty, artifact, AND survivor all at once and I'm going to feel ideologically impure until I go through it in a less cheese way
grave merlin
MulT with retool? I have carried a friend of mine through most unlocks but he managed to die even in the best possible situation.
While going for that one
fickle swan
let's see, if I remember correctly it was Huntress, Drizzle, Command, Soul
misty flax
why soul
fickle swan
uhh let me know if I should spoiler any of that
misty flax
ah thats understandable
misty flax
in my experience, soul isnt hard or useful, just fucking obnoxious
fickle swan
"lucky" insofar as I got a legendary essence
Soul is incredible for stacking on kill effects and I guess to a lesser extent stacking on hit effects
it's an extra kill per kill for huntress because of glaive
well because of glaive and to a lesser extent arrow rain
see also: bandolier
misty flax
huntress is far less viable in many situations compared to the rest of the cast
fickle swan
#ror2-feedback-and-ideas message
Is there not already a sound for when the difficulty increases? I could swear I've heard an audible cue
patent pumice
there is
patent ember
Does anyone here watch woolie?
He seems like one of the bigger ror2 creators but I’m not sure
grave merlin
Hes part of the holy trinity
The Father (Hoopoo Games) The Son (Woolie) and the Holy Ghost (Happiness Mask)
patent ember
Ah I see
I’ll be back in 100 hours with a new religion
silent tendon
he has a lot of false informatiom
high torrent
He seems like one of the bigger ror2 creators but I’m not sure
no one is active besides him right now (tho he extensively plays dungeon last few weeks)
high torrent
slowed down a bit, two overloading balls hit you, end
ol contraptions are absolute worst
cold crystal
literally bonked
proper tartan
granite kestrel
Hey, I don't know anything about game design but I'm curious. How difficult would it be to implement a cross-play save feature to ror2?
weak dragon
cross play sounds like it would be super hard to implement.
granite kestrel
Not cross play as in playing together, but say moving your save from pc to switch and stiff like that
Cross play would be fun though
distant spruce
then that's just called cross save
dense basin
id say fix console first
weak dragon
i would like cross save, ngl i would probably get a console version after the update if it had that feature
dense basin
im not even sure if the coding is the same, theyd have to be able to streamline the movement of save files from one platform to another which is gonna be a pain if the implementation itself is different
weak dragon
im not even sure if the coding is the same, theyd have to be able to streamline ...
now thinking about it, the switch would probably be a huge issue in that reguard
dense basin
as in the switching between platforms or the Nintendo Switch?
weak dragon
i was referring to how it would probably be hard to link things outside of Nintendo.
dense basin
yeah, because Nintendo
fickle swan
Any tips for finding a teleporter on sundered grove?
I feel like I looked all around and I haven't even seen particles
finally found it
I've been on this level for like 10 minutes
fossil halo
everyones fav map
fickle swan
fr I bricked so many power plant runs this way
couldn't even find a newt altar on stage 3 for any of them
whole lotus
everyones fav map
Sundered good
untold lichen
After having had some pretty decent runs with Mando, I've come to realize he's a pretty good character after all. I first thought he was good when I started, then thought he wasn't good after I unlocked other characters who did more damage at the start... But yeah, after putting some more hours, Mando is a pretty solid survivor, I'm growing to actually like him. Also his Phase Blast is pretty neat
worn yacht
this has probably been brought up before but are there any potential problems with having the warbanners effects stack if you have 2 or more over lapping warbanners in one spot? it would be a huge incentive to stack them early and keep track of levelling so you can strategically place them to your advantage
proper steppe
i tried using vr mod but i cant do anything in the menu with my controllers Valve knuckles any fixes?
icy phoenix
this has probably been brought up before but are there any potential problems wi...
Multiplayer warbanners would be cracked
worn yacht
Multiplayer warbanners would be cracked
solution could be warbanners effects only stack per person so they can't be abused or that they stack like teddy bears in a non linear way
tired axle
Attack speed and movement speed already stack hyperbolically
dense basin
wait wut
do you mean different items stack, or the same items
because if syringes stacked hyperbolically, i wouldve broken the game multiple times over already
worn yacht
I was just thinking of the war banner increasing stuff like attack and movement speed within the overlap of 2 warbanner areas
icy phoenix
because if syringes stacked hyperbolically, i wouldve broken the game multiple t...
Hyperbolic means it gets less valuable each stack, exponential is what you’re thinks of
dense basin
oh wait
im too tired for math, my bad
although youd think it stacks exponentially since its an increase stacked on an increase
worn yacht
I'm thinking of hyperbolic, like the curve goes up and then levels out so you'll see noticeable improvements from 3-4 warbanners in the first few levels and then more would be negligible kinda thing
icy phoenix
All your attack speeds sum up, so +15%, +15%, and +100% makes +130%, not ~+170%
worn yacht
oh is it +15% to attack speed and +15% to movement speed?
I thought it was just +30% to both
anyway I'm bad at math 
distant spruce
I thought it was just +30% to both
it is for warbanner, but i think jumpabar is talking about item stacking
worn yacht
okey
I just think it would be cool to strategically level up with warbanner so I can get extra stats by placing them both at the same place and increasing its effects
round coyote
merry grove
I do hope when the expansion comes out they fix the Bandit Item Displays that doesn't properly show up. 
unique crater
everyones fav map
tbh better than abyssal depths, hate that place
misty flax
tbh better than abyssal depths, hate that place
implying any map in any game ever could be worse than gr*ve
misty flax
i am going to beat you to death
unique crater
Sundered Grove is actually one of my favorite maps
it just has such a nice atmosphere
Has some shrooms and nice flora
also no brass contraptions so already better than like, every level
misty flax
no bcs makes it good
has dunestriders
unique crater
dunestriders easy what you mean
misty flax
they are the worst boss in the game
serene vale
>no bcs makes it good
>has dunestriders
Which can be less of an issue due to the enhanced verticality of the level allowing you to deal with them more safely
misty flax
????????
unique crater
just, nuke you into non-existance
misty flax
you can outdps a vagrant nova in like two seconds
misty flax
Which can be less of an issue due to the enhanced verticality of the level allow...
the verticality is one of the worst parts because if you dont have a mobility that lets you go up or a few hopoos the level totally sucks to navigate
serene vale
also which boss is worst is a question that heavily comes down to play style and character choice
misty flax
ive seen many different people agree that dunestrider is the worst
unique crater
the verticality is one of the worst parts because if you dont have a mobility th...
who are you playing that means you have literally zero moveability
serene vale
the verticality is one of the worst parts because if you dont have a mobility th...
I personally don't find it to be that bad even on Engi or Cap though that may be just me
unique crater
even if it had terrible level design, abyssal depths is just, why
misty flax
who are you playing that means you have literally zero moveability
i main mult and the level just sucks with transport mode
unique crater
it's sundered with less move-ability and less nice atmosphere
unique crater
i main mult and the level just sucks with transport mode
are you using the air pumps and your spacebar.
misty flax
sundered with less movability
you can actually navigate the level without a shitload of hopoos
doubt
misty flax
are you using the air pumps and your spacebar.
what
dull ingot
wandering vagrants are worse
neither of you are right. Both are extremely easy bosses to defeat, and both "final move"s or whatever you'd like to call it are really simple to dodge
serene vale
I actually really like Grove on Engi because it allow me to be really creative with my turret placements and more easily set up mine traps
unique crater
neither of you are right. Both are extremely easy bosses to defeat, and both "fi...
didn't say vagrants are the hardest, just saying they are worse.
misty flax
neither of you are right. Both are extremely easy bosses to defeat, and both "fi...
whos the worst in your opinion
also my definition of worst is different from hardest; dunestriders are pretty easy but extremely obnoxious
dull ingot
whos the worst in your opinion
none
well, maybe imp overlord since they don't have a skill ceiling, they just kinda require the ability to run away well
every other boss is cheesable and definitely easier to kill if you know how
unique crater
>sundered with less movability
>you can actually navigate the level without a sh...
there are areas you can't reach without hopoos, and the chains are hard to navigate, since you can just fall through.
dull ingot
didn't say vagrants are the hardest, just saying they are worse.
fair
misty flax
there are areas you can't reach without hopoos, and the chains are hard to navi...
since when can you fall through the chains
unique crater
since when can you fall through the chains
there are holes
serene vale
always
misty flax
theyre pretty easy to fall off, sure, but not through
dull ingot
there are areas you can't reach without hopoos, and the chains are hard to navi...
milky moment
misty flax
i have never fallen through a chain on abyssal
also which areas can you not reach without hopoo
dull ingot
i have never fallen through a chain on abyssal
skill success 😳
dull ingot
also which areas can you not reach without hopoo
guaranteed newt portals on most maps are an easy one
unique crater
also which areas can you not reach without hopoo
there is at least one platform you can't reach as well
dull ingot
unless you're playing loader or have some other great mobility item
unique crater
Loader is best character
misty flax
there is at least one platform you can't reach as well
i genuinely dont know what youre talking about
unique crater
i genuinely dont know what youre talking about
bruh, have you never looked up on sundered.
dull ingot
Loader is best character
loader is small brain character in 90% of cases
misty flax
the only areas i can think of are the hanging crystals but nothing spawns there
misty flax
bruh, have you never looked up on sundered.
were talking about abyssal
unique crater
the only areas i can think of are the hanging crystals but nothing spawns there
The guaranteed newt spawns on one.
unique crater
were talking about abyssal
i am small brain I meant abyssal
misty flax
like seriously what platforms can you not reach
dull ingot
the only areas i can think of are the hanging crystals but nothing spawns there
newt altar
unique crater
like seriously what platforms can you not reach
they don't have names
misty flax
why would you get a newt on stage 4
dull ingot
why would you get a newt on stage 4
why not?
free red, basically
misty flax
*they don't have names*
circle them on a screencap or tell me where they are
shadow kettle
Time to play some more ror2 and get mad
patent ember
See you in 8 hours
shadow kettle
no i will probably rage quit sooner :)
worthy sapphire
ok so for the first time i ever i decided to give a merc run a go with ALL the alt things (i did not like his alt skills before) and i have to say, its pretty god damn fun but like
how the fuck do you deal with wisps
slicing winds seems to NEVER heard them
patent ember
Yea that’s one of their weakpoints imo
maybe atgs?
Or maybe primordial cube
But that’s not great
dull ingot
I feel like AtGs are an interesting case of great, but also slightly bad
like- they're really fkin good if they one shot an enemy at full/half health... but given that it's 3x damage, there's a good chance that you're wasting damage on an enemy that would die sooner
patent ember
Oh yeah that makes sense
Like if they hit something they don’t crit on or kill then it’s worse?
dull ingot
yeah, just a bit
it's still really good if you one shot an enemy, but if they're at 5 health, it's not worth it
patent ember
Yea there’s a bit of rng involved
I remember the first time I saw a missile crit, it wiped out a Buffalo on rallypoint and I didn’t know how it died at first bc it got one shotted
shadow kettle
should i pick ocular HUD or sawmerang
i have 2 fuel cells and am playing huntress :o
dull ingot
i cant seem to get any soldiers syringe on Loader, am i just super unlucky? I havent played since very early access, so i dont know if theres something im missing
patent ember
should i pick ocular HUD or sawmerang
If you wanna use the cells I’d go with sawmarang maybe
patent ember
i cant seem to get any soldiers syringe on Loader, am i just super unlucky? I ha...
I have no idea, maybe it’s a bug?
shadow kettle
If you wanna use the cells I’d go with sawmarang maybe
alrighty ty!
patent ember
Np, I’m not too experienced tho so idk if that was a great choice
shadow kettle
yeah same lol no worries
dull ingot
I have no idea, maybe it’s a bug?
hmmm, it's really annoying, i feel like i see non-stop syringes on like commando and whatnot, but i just havent seen a single one as Loader after 5 hours of play.
patent ember
Weirdddd
This isn’t like just printers tho like it’s just there are no syringes at all?
dull ingot
Weirdddd
it's a common item, it's driving me crazy, i keep getting super late game with just base attack speed and i cant take it
dull ingot
This isn’t like just printers tho like it’s just there are no syringes at all?
yeah theres none. Not in chests or printers or multi-item stands or anything
dull ingot
ive seen all the other common items pop up, like they should, because they're common. But the damn syringes man, i thought maybe melee characters were nerfed to not get them or something, i havent played this game in a long time
but i guess im just unlucky, all these runs going to waste
i get other good items, but the build is really incomplete without syringes
patent ember
Idk I’ve gotten bunches of syringes on merc before so I’m not sure
dull ingot
i cant seem to get any soldiers syringe on Loader, am i just super unlucky? I ha...
just unlucky, I think
calm ferry
alright ok so first stage i get a sand aspect, then i hit a shrine of disorder and get an ice aspect, then DROP an ice aspect, then i hit another shrine of disorder and get a malachite aspect you cant make this up
shrine of disorder op
shadow kettle
no i will probably rage quit sooner :)
guys u will never guess what happened !! i beat the game finally!!!
kind of felt like cheating using artifact of command and getting heretic but um. it was nice to finally win
calm ferry
a win is a win my dude congrats !
full gale
Congrats
shadow kettle
high torrent
e
slow idol
e
cold crystal
e
dull ingot
e
ember nebula
inner heart
holy shid i just found out ligma is a real thing
tired axle
who's steve jobs?
hybrid vault
jim nuts
knotty hedge
LETS GOOOOOOOOO REX DUNKED
shadow kettle
Help im playing multi-player and died like a fool bc of something stupid irl, is there any way I can revive myself
Like a cheat command or something
It's on commencement too 😔
dull ingot
Damn. I'm not sure then
You'll get a cool "missing" message tho
At the end when your buddy(s) beat the game
dull ingot
Wow, that must've been tricky haha
shadow kettle
We did artifact of command and he did Heretic so that helped
icy phoenix
Dying early on a stage, especially commencement, is one of the big problems with multiplayer right now
dull ingot
imo, dying in a multiplayer stage just means you need to get better
in the case of freezebobs, they said they died because of something irl, which means it wasn't actually something in the game that is the reason they died.
Most of the time I've seen people die in multiplayer games, including myself, it's because of a mistake we made because we weren't used to being in multiplayer.
in other words, skill issue
tulip lantern
TRUEEEE
dull ingot
who's steve jobs?
You see,
thorn oak
JOE MAMA
snow sedge
misty flax
when the gd2 hits
stable junco
A key spawned after I unlock the artifact.
misty flax
take it
dull ingot
Lucky penny
cold crystal
willow canopy
cold crystal
real
winter island
real
neon wave
Which is better, poison or blight for acrid?
tired axle
depends
@raven lichen ya should rewrite your copy pasta btw
„Ah yes the classic. I prefer blight because it synergizes better with items, and has better dps on the vast majority of targets. Poison you really only use as fire and forget or on mega targets like mith or overloading worm
Basically blight adds 320% damage to your attacks which is really good, and since poison has a minimum thats really easy to hit blight tends to outperform.
Especially on short runs I really like blight. Lets you focus fire targets really efficiently, and especially early nothing has enough health to use the poison %hp thing. If i remember right even your base kit with no items has blight adding like 275% dps or something, with poison typically only offering the base 100% since you'll just be resetting it nonstop
But yea poison is better at 1 stack always so for fire and forget acrid its preferable. I don't prefer it since 100%/s is pretty slow, so I'd rather focus down my targets one by one and let the 60% do as it do.“
– Charlie
neon wave
😔 When there's no clear winner with sidegrades
high torrent
when you have no time to decide which playstyle fits you better 😔
raven lichen
I have the faq now kinda
untold lichen
So basically that copypasta can be boiled down to :
Fire and forget = poison
Focus a fucker = blight
mossy garden
also poison absolutely fricks over mithrix
funny big hp moment
would be cool if blight ignored armor altogether tho
hexed lichen
Do they work when on a drone?
tired axle
yes
dull ingot
would be cool if blight ignored armor altogether tho
I was just thinking about that lol
ripe trench
ON THE 17TH SWITCH UPDATE IS COMING POG FINALLY FUCK YESSSSSSSS!
mossy garden
slow condor
you forgot the inhaling every bungus you see part
dull ingot
This was invisible because I was in AMOLED😔
Came to dark just to see what it's like and it looks way too bright
merry karma
skill success
merry karma
tawny plaza
Giant Enemy Contraption
reef plover
bass contraption
autumn haven
Tboi players be like
autumn haven
trash in first treasure? cherish it and love it
The Poop and ur playing judas
then the boss item is coin purse
high torrent
The Poop and ur playing judas
epic self heal transformation
high torrent
then the boss item is coin purse
heck yeah money?
or is it the 4 pills one
both good
merry karma
i have a crippling pill addiction
silent tendon
pog
desert atlas
Do they work when on a drone?
only ones worth giving are the tier 2 ones and the glacial one
full nest
why can't I place screenshots anymore?
silent tendon
role
full nest
But I used to be able to place screenshots and photos for a year or two, but it got removed from me???
cmon man
dull ingot
how good is REX's alt secondary?
just got it and I wanna know how useful it is compared to the default seed bomb
it's quite good imo
it can proc bands, which is always useful
slender sigil
what
REX's alt secondary is directive: drill
and it's pretty meh compared to the powerhouse that is seed barrage
it also cannot proc bands
dull ingot
oh, then I'm thinking of the default
I forgot the second skills for REX aren't always the unlockables
jovial yoke
he starts with the "alt" m2 and special. You have to unlock the robot m2 and special, and the plant utility
jovial yoke
True!
spring ginkgo
I just unlocked mercenary and artificer on the same run and then when I was testing out artificer I unlocked the artifact of metamorphosis which then changed me to merc
ripe trench
lol
spring ginkgo
Such a fun run :D I'm so pumped for the update tmrw morn
half kraken
how good is REX's alt secondary?
it's not very good but it's alright
It's kind of held back by the fact it has a 0.5 proc coefficient
it can't really compete with default secondary, specially not when razorwire, but it pairs up nicely with root
quartz saffron
one neat thing i found out about it while doing e8 is that if there are monster in an area above you (like you are inside a container on RD) you can hit them if you aim for the roof
fickle swan
one neat thing i found out about it while doing e8 is that if there are monster ...
With who? Or it doesn't matter because what you're really hitting is the bottom of their feet clipping through the ceiling?
quartz saffron
rex alt m2
fickle swan
you I wasn't scrolled up enough
dull ingot
it's not very good but it's alright
It's kind of held back by the fact it has a...
Aw that's sad, I'll give it a few runs though anyways to see how it feels to use
untold lichen
Overloading Worm on stage 5 Acrid, ouch my run :c
untold lichen
I did a stupid and tried to leap into it to deal some more damage, instead of... Y'know, spitting and R'ing and 
his ass like I should've
latent rose
when the game hates you.
untold lichen
Just don't get hit, easy
old wind
>when the game hates you.
watch it get unstable tesla coil
untold lichen
What items are good for Purity Acrid ? (With spit since I didn't unlock bite)
Also I suppose 
, 
, 
and 
are all scrappable when you have Purity ?
tired axle
unless if you find a printer to get 100% chance yes
untold lichen
Is 
still worth it or not really ?
untold lichen
Gotcha, thanks for the answers. Didn't find any printers to get 100% so I got rid of them, didn't have many anyway
untold lichen
Welp, died in Bulwark's Ambry anyway, I really can't get Acrid past stage 5, or stage 6 at most
full nest
whoooo, finally found my second one by accident!
been using the codes from online, but only didn't want to spoil their locations for myself
tulip lantern
Nice
hallow wraith
there are some really well hidden ones will be tough to find them all
worthy sapphire
spark pawn
if chasing crabs wasn't an unlock it'd be more fun to do
tulip lantern
It was pretty fun
misty flax
the crabs was the worst challenge ive ever done
dull kindle
it takes forever
first you have to get titanic plains after looping
then you have to kick them off the edge, which is very hard to do if you have damage items and drones
also there are a bunch of other enemies you have to deal with at the same time
misty flax
primordial cube
dull kindle
I got lucky enough to spawn on titanic plains with artifact of kin
and i got crabs
so that wasn't to bad
spark pawn
loader alt grapple, personal fave.
dull ingot
It would be cool if Artificer's jetpack boost when you first start holding space gave you a tiny boost forward
this seems useless, but it would be cool for sort of a makeshift bunny hopping
also spamming space in the sky lol
worthy sapphire
Never had that much trouble with the crabs
uncut hatch
i didnt struggle with the crab challenge either
i think my recommendation is to play engineer and set up nigh indestructible turrets and then just chase the crabs off of the cliffs while everything else is occupied with the undying turrets
strange pollen
Is it normal when you exit the building area in Commencement and then get instantly destroyed by lunar chimeras or smth
misty flax
wisps are the most overpowered enemies in the game
if its any of the other chimeras its just skill issue tho
strange pollen
As soon as I exited it just killed me within 3 seconds with a Gatling attack
misty flax
yeah wisps are completely broken
extreme rapid fire, high mobility, high damage per projectile, applies cripple if perfected, can spawn as overloading on consoles, AND knockback because fuck you
dense stratus
fuck the chimera wisp
misty flax
it is one of the worst examples of the devs just putting in numbers and going "yeah looks good"
dense stratus
also i really wish hopoo went back and remodeled some of the older models
misty flax
like what
dense stratus
commando
strange pollen
They also really need an optimization update for both consoles and pc
misty flax
i like mandos models but his animations are kinda weird
dense stratus
not saying redo the concept itself, just remaster some of the stuff, add battle detail for example
and for the love of god fix the hands
misty flax
give base mando model more cake
dense stratus
yes
tired juniper
first ror2 game in months: go to cell vents, enemies get kjaros, enemies get atgs, get hit by a single vulture, spawns atgs, dies to nado
:C
dull ingot
Bruh moment
thin ridge
I littirally want to torture the entire heckin species of lesser wisp
Lost monsoon run cause of stupid floating ball
half jackal
is there a new hero released?
slender sigil
the last survivor came out in march for PC, at the end of june for xbox/ps4 and 2 days ago for switch
half jackal
was that bandit
quartz saffron
unless you count heretic
dull ingot
Heretic was from the same update lmao
cold crystal
engineer gameplay
dense stratus
incredible
quartz saffron
engineer gaming
cold crystal
true!
untold lichen
After unlocking the bands, can you drop them again from the Elder Lemurians in the Aqueduct in subsequent runs ?
regal light
dull ingot
Loader mains may be carried but can you blame us for picking the mean punch woman
tired axle
yes
dull ingot
Fair
modern light
the last 4-5 times I've done Void Fields, it's been on the first item cell. What do I need to do to break the curse?
sly vessel
Why do you want to
modern light
Cause monsters with 50% crit chance are scary?
elfin wigeon
Don't get hit
dull ingot
Has there ever been direct confirmation that bandit’s alt skin is a reference to deadbolt?
warm pond
gd2
half kraken
Has there ever been direct confirmation that bandit’s alt skin is a reference to...
yes
half kraken
I don't know but its common knowledge
dull ingot
I guess it looks accurate enough to practically be stated in itself
Don’t like the slight ambiguity though
tired axle
this is what the wiki has to say
dull ingot
oh, that's why the knives looked like kitched knives lol
quiet swan
um... i think i just had the magma worm fall off the map on rallypoint: delta. im trying to get the bandit alt special and i went invis and the worm instantly died
i think it just decided to go straight down and died off the map
prisma yarrow
ive managed to get 3 clovers and i feel unstoppable, very happy with my first run after a couple week break
quiet swan
nice
prisma yarrow
on huntress of all characters too, someone i rarely play
plain plinth
Cause monsters with 50% crit chance are scary?
Easy, you get void fields where monsters get sticky bombs instead. That'll break your lucky streak.
dull kindle
Easy, you get void fields where monsters get sticky bombs instead. That'll break...
i feel like there are a lot of items that would break your lucky streak in void fields
plain plinth
Items I fear the most would be focus crystal, goat hoof, sticky bomb, armor plating if I'm commando or acrid, atg, bands, tesla, or nukuhana's if they have mushroom monsters or some medkits.
oh, and chronobauble if there are enemy drones.
dull kindle
Items I fear the most would be focus crystal, goat hoof, sticky bomb, armor plat...
you ever seen jellyfish on red whip?
those fuckers are both hilarious and terrifying
weak dragon
Easy, you get void fields where monsters get sticky bombs instead. That'll break...
imagine sticky bombs with overloading elites
not only do they get to put a lightning orb thing on you they can also put a bomb too
can those overloading orbs proc?
plain plinth
can those overloading orbs proc?
I don't think so. When an elite aspect drops or if you get wake of vultures you can also play as an overloading, and it basically works the same as a delayed brilliant behemoth explosion.
dense basin
Overloading jellyfish with stickies so it can explode on you 3 times just to add insult to injury
past yacht
not sure if theres a GD modded so here is the alt primary of chef from chef mod
slender sigil
nice
brittle aspen
158 hours
merry karma
omg its azazel
slender sigil
azazel from Isaac from helltaker from gd1 from the bible
merry karma
isaac > bible
fluid notch
faint river
isaac > bible
isaac = bible honestly
raven lichen
Beep
Acrid:
Complete void.
For me nowadays this one isnt hard but i could see early on it being tough. You are forced to fight in a confined arena back to back. That being said, if you spam it eventually youll get great rng and then its nearly free.
Arti:
Purchased
Not hard.
Bandit:
Reach the third stage
Also not hard imo. Probably could be brute forced
MulT:
Win stage 1 5 times
Absolutely not a problem. You can brute force spam the s1 tele pretty fast
Engi:
Complete 30 stages
Same as above but slower. Rewards your long runs better tho
Merc:
Obliterate
Requires looping. For a newer player this could be tough.
Lodr:
Beat the sirens boss
Most of the time you can attrition him down. If you really just want the unlock, clear the stage and you have infinite time to whittle away his hp. Not hard.
Rex:
Take the fuel array to abyssal
50% hp limit, no equipment. No blood shrines. No osp. Not even guaranteed to see the stage, even with lunar seers. This one has tough aspects, and annoying aspects. New and old players may need more than one try here, and thats saying something.
Captain:
Beat mith
This is basically merc but the other ending. Mithrix can be harder in many cased esp for newer players.
I think thats everything
So yea i guess in my opinion rex might be the hardest unlock haha
Then maybe cap then merc? I think obliterating is probably easier than mith despite the extra time taken
tired axle
i wonder how much more difficult some of these are for blind players, since for example they probably won't find void fields by themselves
same could be said for merc i guess, since like, nobody knows how to loop until they ask here apparently
was pretty easy for me, so i guess it's just a skill issue
merry karma
merry karma
epic same time zone
tired axle
was pretty easy for me, so i guess it's just a skill issue
i also love how you can faintly make out the eclipse 8 symbol in the top right
raven lichen
I guess thats true, finding these things blind is def different from knowing what to do and performing it
Rex still has an edge there because like wtf hahaha
Open your drop pod, not on a few chars, and then carry an equipment that will kill you without you knowing how you died multiple times, to a single possible stage, amd then find the hidden rex bot to restore.
All blind.
Wew.
tired axle
so like, you can figure it out, but like
raven lichen
Still leaves ? For when it wont show if you like mult a lot haha, you could deduce but a bit odd
Something i hadn't considered... You have to find rex
merry karma
just gonna brag yet again that my friend beat ror2 (mithrix) on his first run ever (on rainstorm) because I gave him tips 😎
raven lichen
You arent told its in abysall
tired axle
i agree with the wiki btw
raven lichen
TRu
merry karma
the
raven lichen
The in the the
Why is it the thing in the the
Uhoh
I went and did it
The doesn't look or sound like a word anymore. Damn.
tired axle
the the when the
merry karma
the the when the the the when the do the 2 the the when the do the the the
raven lichen
The the when the in the the
Im losing my sanity
I cant decide how to read it
Thuh? Thee?
My brain is breaking and turning the into other words
tired axle
ze
merry karma
German moment
raven lichen
True
Superior engineering
lilac moon
What does stacking empathy cores do?
raven lichen
Gives em a bigger damage multiplier per ally
merry karma
wait what
so they count themselves
but I forgor what do they not count
tired axle
they count everything on your team
raven lichen
They deal 100% per thing on your team
So normally, you got yourself plus 2 of them, so 300% of their base damage
With 2 stacks, you double the amount per ally, so they deal 600% base
If you play engineer, your turrets count
So youd have 5 on your team
Thats 500% with stack, and 1000% with 2
raven lichen
So
Long story short....
Stacks increase their damage by 100% per haha
2 stacks? 2x damage
3? 3x
Etc
tired axle
temporary stuff like squid polyps or backup drones count as well btw, cause a lot of people think they don't for some reason
wait, the wiki still says it doesn't, wtf
merry karma
short story long when
raven lichen
i think youve said you tested this?
raven lichen
i remember striker testing it right after launch and they wouldnt, but i think wacky subscaling was going on and ive never like seen it myself if that makes sense
so i always forget if you did it, or we jsut talked about it
i think ive had this exact convo like uh
5 times
or something
lmao
is someone changing it back?
tired axle
uh, i never actually changed it to begin with, since i didn't have an account when first testing it
raven lichen
yea GreatFernicus said this
so probably just was discussion and got updated and no one knew better to change it back
want me to cut it? im logged in.
if you know they do work then its worth updating, i havent tested so
tired axle
yeah, they definitely work
raven lichen
well
hopefully i dont get harassed
the editor changed and doesnt just offer you to add a description of the change
i could undo and redo to find it but that sounds a pain
merry karma
maybe they're in this discord? could always ping them
or they might have their discord # on their profile
raven lichen
lol
i just did a second edit and added a single space to the end of a paragraph 😎
hopefully thats uh not frowned upon. i just wanted to give a reason since my name is red owo
merry karma
why is it red
raven lichen
i was wondering that too
maybe because im not verified?.. or dont have a personal page setup
no idea how this works. we had some borderline vandalism going on and asked them to lock out non logged in IPs, and they did
so i made an account haha
distant spruce
your name is red if you don't have a user page. it's just a red link cause that page doesn't exist
raven lichen
gotcha, i actually clicked on yours to see and thats why i thought it might have been that hahaha
i think you had done an edit jsut beforehand so were still fresh on the list
every time i edit the wiki im like oh god i hope this looks ok, i dont want people to think im just negating these thigns randomly haha
distant spruce
ya, you definitely should considering you know quite a bit about the inner workings of the game
the reason/descriptions are also just a courtesy thing, it isn't a big deal to leave it blank
raven lichen
I figured it was courtesy, but ive tracked some very questionable changes down to untagged edits. If it had said how they got that info to correct the old stuff (which was actually right) it would look a lot more credible i guess
Like if i cut or change a big portion of a page without a reason it could be kinda sus is what i feel aha
shut jewel
You can list classnames from ror2 source code as citations :p
thin ridge
Clay dunestrider feels like a troll
A extremly painful troll
Like four of them just group up and full heal
How do i beat 4 clay dunstriders on monsoon
misty flax
by doing it
plain plinth
Don't they only heal as much damage as they deal? Surely they wouldn't heal up to full only from eachother. Were there other monsters nearby?
raven lichen
You can list classnames from ror2 source code as citations :p
ive done this basically whenever i can
definitely makes me feel safer people wont assume i dont know what im talking about haha
dull ingot
How do i beat 4 clay dunstriders on monsoon
DoTs and patience
dull ingot
just got serrated shiv for bandit
the achievement was slightly harder to get than I thought
either way I like this way more than serrated blade since it's ranged
rain kiln
How do i beat 4 clay dunstriders on monsoon
There's this crazy thing called shooting
autumn geode
i love having to do an hour and a half run to get commandos alternate secondary. very fun.
final shadow
Designed for maximum fun factor
thin ridge
There's this crazy thing called shooting
Wait so engineer bombs doesnt count as shooting
dull ingot
ok, so
If someone were to get 5 rejuv racks, they'd be able to get rid of the affects of one corsepbloom, but also on top of that, they'd be getting 200x the healing they would normally get, so I think it's a good investment lol
also, since corpsebloom is hyperbolic, it's a (1+)1:1 with rejuv, so if you have 2 corpse bloom and 1 rejuv, you have 12x the healing with the downside of a single corpsebloom
willow canopy
i love having to do an hour and a half run to get commandos alternate secondary....
Love doing this too, except I haven't done it yet, because my game froze and I'm praying to god that it won't crash and I'll have to restart it
still saffron
also, since corpsebloom is hyperbolic, it's a (1+)1:1 with rejuv, so if you have...
That confused the shit out of me but i think i got it
dull ingot
That confused the shit out of me but i think i got it
so corpsebloom reduces the amount of health you can heal per second down to 10% of your max health.
Rejuvination rack adds +100%(+100%) healing, which means with one stack, your reduction goes from 10% to 20%, because now it's healing double
if you get 2 corpseblooms, it goes from 10% to 5%, however having that one rejuv rack brings that 5% back up to 10%, effectively nullifying the downside of one of the corpseblooms while increasing its upside by 4x because of some wonky math the game has
still saffron
im following now
dull ingot
great :D
the math in this game looks scary, but I think the medium of the game allows it to be grasped more easily
misty flax
ror2 internal math sounds like its held together by duct tape and prayer
still saffron
Little toothpaste for added measure
lilac moon
Are happiest masks worth it?
misty flax
usually not
flint carbon
Are happiest masks worth it?
i just pick it up if i have no other choices, eg. filled with overpowered shit
gaunt aspen
Are happiest masks worth it?
Only with clover and if you stack it
Or if you have the empathy core
cerulean rapids
consider this: happiest mask gives you beetle friends and they are really cute so
always worth it over any other item
gaunt aspen
But they are destined to die no matter what 😦
ember nebula
Queens glad should have a random chance to summon 3 normal/elite worker beetles. Wouldn't be useful, but people would probably love it.
slow condor
But they are destined to die no matter what 😦
stack enough masks to make their lifespan match your own
gaunt aspen
Queens glad should have a random chance to summon 3 normal/elite worker beetles....
Is the item useful otherwise anyway?
ember nebula
It's a great distraction in the Mithrix fight
And sometimes you can sit back and enjoy it 1v1 a golem or something
ember nebula
Yeah, definatly not the best yellow. That role is either Urn or Knurl, depending on your character.
shrewd parcel
Unpopular opinion blight and ravenous bite are great
merry karma
popular opinion by good players lol
anyways knurl is worst yellow 😎
2.133 white items lookin ass
ember nebula
*engineer would like to know your location
merry karma
genesis loop
slow condor
electric nukes going off every 3 seconds
ember nebula
Only char better than engie with loop is rex, I'd assume
ember nebula
Not acrid, rex
ember nebula
The names do sound like they should be opposite, but whatever
merry karma
slow condor
ember nebula
Wouldn't the fuel thing negate the genesis loop?
merry karma
maybe wait
@tired axle can you check if fuel array activation time is affected by attack speed
shrewd parcel
Acrid means corrosive rex ain't corrosive no matter one is a dog
ember nebula
It kills you at 50% right
tired axle
<@322793771043651584> can you check if fuel array activation time is affected by...
one sex
wait, what's fuel array called in the files?
ember nebula
I'm pretty sure it kills you at half health, although I'm not positive
tired axle
found
tired axle
I'm pretty sure it kills you at half health, although I'm not positive
it deals 300% of your max health (health + shield) in damage, but it's actually halved since it's considered friendly fire
it deals the full 300% to enemies though
ember nebula
I knew it dealt high damage, but when dose it activate?
tired axle
when you fall below 50% max health it enters the countdown state, and then it explodes
tired axle
is the countdown affected by attack speed
it's not
merry karma
let's gooo
ember nebula
And genesis loop activates at 20% hp, right?
merry karma
ember nebula
Or was it 25%
tired axle
25%, no?
ember nebula
But that still makes that build somewhat useless then, right?
merry karma
oh wait I could make the countdown affected by attack speed while I'm at HIT
high torrent
<:Engineer:566259565096730624><:Fuel_Array:826692863294570506><:Genesis_Loop:826...
transcedeee
merry karma
true
tired axle
But that still makes that build somewhat useless then, right?
the fuel array explosion also deals damage to enemies, and 300% max health is really beeg
ember nebula
But that still negates the genesis loop
ember nebula
Tf would the syringe do?
tired axle
yeah, if you fall below 25% health before the countdown finishes you proc loop
tired axle
Tf would the syringe do?
make loop explode faster
ember nebula
Oh, well, it's still a full 25% health gap, and if you're collecting bungus to support your team, that's gonna be kinda hard to get to
gaunt aspen
Yes, I picked up on that hard way on ||stage 4 Mitchell||
tired axle
besides, since they have dio's they don't get the fual array back for their second life
tired axle
Oh, well, it's still a full 25% health gap, and if you're collecting bungus to s...
also, fuck stationary turrets
gaunt aspen
It’s purely for loop
ember nebula
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Well, I guess I can't really blame this strat, since, y'know, DIRECTIVE rex exists and all
merry karma
it's the best strat though
genesis loop and syringe not really needed but still
unless you play on console, then it doesn't work
gaunt aspen
ember nebula
quiet swan
i dont find genesis loop that useful, personally. its a very very situational item
for me, its scrap. same with several boss items, namely titanic and gland
the boss items i see as useful are spleen, molten, charged, disciple, and halcyon. maybe titanic for its regen and maybe urn after it's rework, but its healing is eh. higher stacks wont be too bad, but still.
ember nebula
Wdym the urn is getting reworked?
tired axle
it was "reworked" in anniversary, it doesn't damage allies anymore
also, urn is like literally one of the best healing items in the game, 100% base damage per second as healing is amazing
honest smelt
Genesis loop is practically an extra life. It kills everything that almost killed you.
It becomes useless by the time you’re able to be one shot by everything but by then you should’ve found a boss printer.
arctic kayak
how to send a screenshot
Get a role
You can do it in #gd1-nullified / #gd2-nullified if you wanna be BASED
brittle aspen
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818235930837123078/878720296490762250/unk...
@arctic kayak thanks
arctic kayak
No problem
dull ingot
And genesis loop activates at 20% hp, right?
critical health got increases from 20% to 25%
related, but mostly said it just for you to know
steady notch
high torrent
acrid
tired axle
hot
last meadow
I got two pearls an one of my friends got 3 an one got 2 all in the same run an all out of the same cleaning pool what is the chances of that happening
dull ingot
a pearl is 20% chance out of a cleansing pool
so the chances of getting 5 red items out of large chests
not too rare but pretty lucky
if you used it a bunch of times then not rare at all
last meadow
5 reds?
I never said I got 5 reds
Me an my friends got 7 irradiant pearls
My bad didn't type that right
dull ingot
i said its the same chance of getting 5 reds, but i guess i misread i meant 7 reds
@last meadow
slate lichen
Im having a small issue understanding how 
unlucky stat works
it rolls +1 for an unfavorable outcome
but does it mean that it well never proc because it HAS to roll +1?
like how tf does that work
Atleast with 
if something doesnt proc it rolls it +1 so it has another chance to
dull ingot
Im having a small issue understanding how <:Purity:826691155646349332> unlucky ...
no, it only roles once. say theres a 10% chance to proc an item, and it does. purity rerolls it one more time, which makes the chance of proccing the item much lower. with clover, if it doesnt proc, it rerolls so you have a much higher chance of something proccing
its the same thing but purity rerolls when you procced, clover rerolls when you didnt proc
dull ingot
Im having a small issue understanding how <:Purity:826691155646349332> unlucky ...
this is the equation for luck if you're curious y = 1 - (1 - p)^(x + 1)
the p is the initial chance for the item to happen and the x is your luck stat
last meadow
Ok@dull ingot
dull ingot
ok
dull ingot
its the same thing but purity rerolls when you procced, clover rerolls when you ...
to add onto this, imagine the game roles your outcome and there's a dude in there that either hates you, or likes you (the hate/like is based on luck stat).
If you proc and he hates you, he'll go "I don't like [player] getting good rolls. Roll again whenever they're successful!" but if you miss and he likes you, he'll be nice and say "I like [player]! I'll allow them to reroll if they miss"
Missing with negative luck does nothing, because that's what the guy wants.
Similarly, proccing with positive luck does nothing because that's what the guy wants.
hope this helps. If it doesn't, don't worry lol
distant spruce
this is the equation for luck if you're curious `y = 1 - (1 - p)^(x + 1)`
the p...
you missed the negative part of luck y = p^-(x-1) if x is negative
the p is the initial chance and x is the luck stat
the modified proc chance formula is a piecewise function, otherwise if you had negative luck, then the modified proc chance would be negative
still saffron
is there a way he can hate me so much he likes me?
dull ingot
ror2 players calculating y = px(12x0.9^x) to find the chances of bungus dropping from their chest
unique crater
what have I done
misty flax
ror2 moment
dull ingot
is there a way he can hate me so much he likes me?
nah, you just gotta get really lucky
dull ingot
ror2 players calculating y = px(12x0.9^x) to find the chances of bungus dropping...
0.7764705882% chance of happening
now calculate the chances of scavenger spawning on the first stage
impossible
like, literally impossible without waiting over an hour
quiet swan
can they even spawn before the first loop?
dull ingot
I've had it happen before with artifact of greed on, but not normally, no
wait how long does it take for them to spawn?
a while
their credit cost is really high, and they pretty much can't spawn before stage 5
i recently did a 20 stage run for 57 leaf and they only started spawning after an hour or so i think
i think ill do another run like that as well but with acrid so i can get that achievement
smart
go with sacrifice for extra power
i use artifact of command so i can be insanely op
its fun running artifact of command sometimes just so i can powertrip
btw, the skill you unlock isn't terrible, but it's for a melee play style just to let you know
dull ingot
btw, the skill you unlock isn't terrible, but it's for a melee play style just t...
i know that's why im getting it so i can pure melee acrid
naice
dull ingot
synergy:35 6
11
4
15
as loader
dull ingot
i just got the acrid thing, the Scavenger spawned around 40 minute mark in the second loop
I stuck around and got a few other achievements too cause why not
over all good run
tranquil star
synergy:35 <:Soldiers_Syringe:839984397759152128> 6<:Hopoo_Feather:5877175520510...
yeah my favorite synergy is getting a bunch of generally great items /s
dull ingot
over all good run
👏 nice
untold lichen
i just got the acrid thing, the Scavenger spawned around 40 minute mark in the s...
Getting to a Scav is surprisingly hard as Acrid, at least I think so, so great job on that, the Bite is very fun to use, hope you'll enjoy it as well
terse panther
my combo with acrid
dull ingot
how fitting lol
dull ingot
<:Soldiers_Syringe:839984397759152128> <:Tesla:571430243475128321> <:Topaz_Brooc...
go to #role-assignment and type t!selfrole get Acrid to get a role so you can post stuff
dull ingot
oh, I've unlocked everything already
terse panther
Oh nice
dull ingot
both through cheats and legit
terse panther
I got mine legit but jeez i thought about using artifacts
dull ingot
I unlocked everything with RoRCheats and then I realized that i basically skipped half the fun and went back and unlocked everything correct
dull ingot
I got mine legit but jeez i thought about using artifacts
artifacts aren't cheating, it's mostly just using mods
terse panther
Oh ok ive been told differently
dull ingot
but I get why you'd not want to use artifacts
terse panther
What do you play on
dull ingot
Oh ok ive been told differently
I'll say this: specifically unlocking things with artifacts is fine, and honestly encouraged if you have over 10+ hours in the game and/or at least one mastery
however, if you're doing 
runs constantly, you might need to get away from that habit, because it ruins the actual challenge of the game, which is where half the fun comes from
dull ingot
What do you play on
mostly rainstorm, but I'm working my way up to monsoon slowly
terse panther
mostly rainstorm, but I'm working my way up to monsoon slowly
I meant like plat form but yea rainstorm is good practice
dull ingot
ah, I'm on pc
terse panther
Oh heck
dull ingot
I couldn't play anyways. It's late for me, and I don't even have my computer to play with rn
terse panther
Oh yea its 1 am for me and im on xbox anyway
dull ingot
lol
there's #ror2-console-discussion if you'd like to talk about problems with console, or generally just hang out with console people
terse panther
Oh brother\sister you are successful
dull ingot
most people are really nice, but there's a handful of people who are very shitpost-y
not bad, just.. not inviting 😆
dull ingot
Oh brother\sister you are successful
ay, glad to hear it 😎
misty flax
one word of advice
terse panther
Yee 
misty flax
do not use #gd1-nullified
terse panther
I belive you but why
dull ingot
there used to be a meme channel, but it got shut down because people were a bit too dark n edgy and whatnot
everyone who hung out in that channel moved to #gd1
even before that, gd1 was just, like, kinda weird? 😆
sometimes it's a nice channel; it's mostly just whoever's talking in it
terse panther
Ah ok
dull ingot
if you want actual game talk, though, hang out in #gd2-nullified or #ror2-game-questions. Those will be better for new players who actually want to learn
terse panther
If you cant tell im not new to the game but i am to the discord
dull ingot
ah, got it
terse panther
Yea im happy discord exists
dull ingot
in that case, it doesn't really matter what channel you hang out in then
just don't expect actual game discussion in gd1
terse panther
Because i was falling out of risk of rain because none of my friends play so i was by myself
dull ingot
ah, yeah, I have a similar situation
I have a small group chat of pc players now, though, so I can get some players when I get online
there's also #lfg-xbox-ror2 for you, if you're looking for it, but just to let you know, everyone is basically doing monsoon only, and it's rare to find people actually willing to play lower
actually, I should rephrase that:
PC LFG is all monsoon, and I'm assuming the other platforms are similar. I have no idea how the console or stadia LFG channels are and what the common things are
dull ingot
very
terse panther
VERY
dull ingot
yes 😆
terse panther
lol
dull ingot
I had a really cool teacher in middle school that taught us how to type really fast. From there, it was just practice
dull ingot
huh, weird
terse panther
Yea its dumb i was enjoying it to