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onyx hearth
peak meteor
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I think huntress is perfectly fine where she is

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Idk

fluid notch
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No

winged gull
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I find her pretty good 🤔
Since almost all items suit good on her

fluid notch
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Pretty much everything is good on everyone

winged gull
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I'm not really sure, I found that bursts items Crowbar and rings are pretty weak on auto attackers (rex MULT Commando ) and proc items are pretty weak on bursts characters ( Loader Artificer )

But that's my opinion and I'm pretty new on the game so I don't know all informations yet

icy phoenix
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Some items are definitely a lot worse on specific characters, like shield gen/transcendence suck on REX because of his self damage

tulip nimbus
tulip nimbus
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@zinc kernel can you give us the transport mode math

zinc kernel
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I'll have to get it again so gimme a min

tulip nimbus
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I know it's 1250% with no movement items right?

zinc kernel
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no it scales off base speed

remote turret
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rebar with band is extremely fun

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i used to run default mul-t till i unlocked power mode. now i'm just nailgun power mode

tulip nimbus
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Oh cool

remote turret
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still have to unlock sawblade and mastery tho, they're the two mul-t achievements i'm missing now

zinc kernel
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At base movement speed transport mode is ~1900%

tulip nimbus
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Fr

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Jesus

zinc kernel
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1% movement speed is approx +1% damage on transport mode

tulip nimbus
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So when you say base movement speed you mean hooves don't affect its damage? I thought they did

zinc kernel
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speed does affect it

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it still gets a damage boost from 10 m/s sprint speed though

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which is base

tulip nimbus
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D

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Is 1% of movement speed equal to 1m/s or is it equal to 1/10 of a meter per second

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Actually that is a stupid question

dull ingot
tulip nimbus
dull ingot
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1m/12.5s for heretic

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since she's 8m/s

tulip nimbus
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Yea that just seems wrong for some reason tho idk

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@raven lichen ayo^

dull ingot
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wow thanks 😆

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I know I have a history, but percentages are, like, the one thing I can do right

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and DERT problems

tulip nimbus
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It's not personal I swear

dull ingot
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no worries

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I'll just show my work just in case I did make a mistake

tulip nimbus
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It's just that if that's right then 1% damage increase per 1% movement speed seems absolutely pathetic and untrue

zinc kernel
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I mean +14% damage is pretty nice considering the best % damage up among the whites is 10%

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along with the fact that you also move faster as well

dull ingot
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7(0.01) = 0.07

0.07/1 is the rate of 1% per second, meaning (0.07/0.07)/0.07 or 1/0.07 is how to find 1 meter per time, which means the time is 14.28 seconds

total rate is 1/14.28 for a 7m/s survivor

raven lichen
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what is question?

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Mult Transport is 362.5% + 1450% at 7 speed and 413.25% + 1653% with one hoof (7.98)

dull ingot
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how to calculate 1% or something

raven lichen
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1% of speed is 1% of 7

raven lichen
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or 1% of 8 for heretic

dull ingot
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ok, cool, so I did it right

zinc kernel
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except for energy drink

dull ingot
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is energy drink's +25% before or after sprint modifier

zinc kernel
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yeah

dull ingot
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... thanks 😆

zinc kernel
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which is why hoof used to be better when stacked

dull ingot
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before or after

zinc kernel
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I am

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stupid

dull ingot
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nah

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you're big brain

raven lichen
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drink is just the % while sprinting
so it increases base by 25/1.45 or 17.24%

dull ingot
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I think I understand

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but why divide?

raven lichen
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because normal sprint boosts are *1.45
so if you want to convert a 'sprint speed' to a 'normal speed' you divide by the same mult

dull ingot
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oh, got it

zinc kernel
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man you'd think it'd be the other way around haha

raven lichen
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well thats kinda how hoof works
it makes sense to say 'heres the bonus while sprinting' for an item only active while sprinting, as opposed to a lower number for the base improvement

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the only issue is the lack of clarity between it and hoof, since 14 and 25 seem so different but in reality they are very similar (14/17 base or 20/25 sprinting)

warm salmon
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Artifact of glass has taught me freeze does alot of dmg and is not scaled

remote turret
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iirc guillotine also overrides freeze if you're trying to murder elites so long as you have enough guillotines

raven lichen
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Execute is always 30% iirc, and yea guillotine will override but not add to it

icy phoenix
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It picks the higher of the two, so guillotine won’t always override

remote turret
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oh yeah isn't the best remotely doable stack of guillotine like 20 or 50 or smth?

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bc after that it just starts going up super slowly?

raven lichen
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Depends
I don't pay attention to the execute as much as the effective damage boost, since a health reduction can be compared to a damage up. In which case its just +13% damage to elites per stack non diminishing

next yoke
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just started monsoon run as commando, theres a multishop with lensmaker glasses and a syringe, which do i take?

raven lichen
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hard choice
syringe is more power to M1 (15% vs 10%), but glasses are 10% to both m1 and m2, plus they have synergies with other items (harvesters scythe and predatory instincts)
personally i think i would go for the glasses, but i could see both being good

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syringe will be better with tritips if you want to run bleed though, since shatterspleen isnt as consistent

warm salmon
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I'd say syringe, that added dps will likely yeald more value the earlier you get it

dull ingot
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Which one would be hypothetically better:
+30% damage at all times
or
+30% attack speed at all times

this isn't based on any items, I'm just wondering which one y'all find more useful

desert atlas
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attack speed

dull ingot
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If you're dealing with everything pretty easily id say attack speed if ur struggling in dmg go for damage

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so it's 130%/1s versus 100%/0.7s I think

which makes it 130% v 142%

so yeah, attack speed would be better

low laurel
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who beat the game with every single artifact active at once?

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i know its possible

dull ingot
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there are speedruns of people doing it

low laurel
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oh

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i did not know

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i tried to do one myself

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but i am big nub and need to git good

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so yeah

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you know how that ended

dull ingot
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lol

echo knoll
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I just killed mithrix with DIABLO strike. I put it down for the lols earlier in the fight, ended up hitting mere moments after he finished taking my items. I was so confused why he was suddenly dead.

low laurel
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i personally am not a fan of D strike, but some might disagree

echo knoll
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Despite the memery, I don't think its all that bad. Early on, you can set it and forget it on the TP boss as you deal with the horde. Captain really doesn't need the extra damage from orbital strikes IMO, so early game easy TPs makes more sense for me.

hybrid vault
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Diablo is, surprisingly, very viable

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Better than orbital, even

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It works well on big, slow enemies

low laurel
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eh

hybrid vault
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Like most of the teleporter bosses

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Also, you can skip commencement with it

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It has great synergy with shock beacons

low laurel
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i mostly dont like it for its absurdly long charge time

low laurel
hybrid vault
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40k dps on a 40 sec cooldown is 1k dps

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Although you aren't using diablo for the dps, you're using it for the massive 40k burst damage

tulip nimbus
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So 60 seconds

valid zealot
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look at them having a civilized conversation in gd2.

lavish ocean
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then look at gd1

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a bunch of losers using only 3 brain cells to communicate

high torrent
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3? exxagaration.

lavish ocean
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oh really?

dull ingot
# tulip nimbus So 60 seconds

but during those 20s the cooldown is still going, so it'll be 20s the moment diablo strike lands, effectively keeping the overall cd at 40s

tulip nimbus
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I cannot do

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Simple math

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However I can do

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Complicated math

merry karma
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your mom xe(-∞;+∞)

tulip nimbus
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That called uh integer notation or something

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You're saying my mom is so fat she simultaneously takes up an infinite amount of space in both directions

merry karma
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yes

plain briar
modern ether
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yeah! fuck you gd1!

high torrent
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gd1

tired axle
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dude i fucking love hate aegis gd1

high torrent
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actually no pyro, dont infect gd2 with bullshit

plain briar
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too late

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it already infected you

rose lagoon
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dude I fucking love aegis

dull ingot
fiery latch
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i also hate things that are popular

onyx hearth
desert atlas
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you boost up onto the blood shrine area roof

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then boost up to the mithrix arena

high torrent
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also from roof of soul shrine area should be possible

desert atlas
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yeah

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blood shrine area is a lot easier though

merry karma
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also from the mountains thing

desert atlas
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mountains thing?

high torrent
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diablo is like designed for commencement skip

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i wanna believe that bizzo was sitting there adjusting new commencement terrain to fit for diablo skip

desert atlas
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@onyx hearth

onyx hearth
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Boost as in Diablo yourself while jumping?

desert atlas
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yes

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rocket jump, with a nuke

onyx hearth
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I’ve boosted like once before and right before the strike an imp killed my osp

high torrent
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it is a literal tungsten rod

onyx hearth
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But my body went to the sky and it’s limbs became long

high torrent
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imptrolled

desert atlas
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ah yes, physics

loud stream
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drill jump

remote turret
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temp softlocked a failed run once bc one of my polygons wouldn’t stop moving and i had to wait for the moon to explode to see the results screen

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that or it was perpetually stretched out and the game just really didn’t like it

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sad thing was i died in phase 4 right before aurelionite

fallow depot
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mithrix secret attack: spaghettifies you

warm salmon
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the suck sucks too hard, i lost

edgy siren
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first time doing multiplayer, and we managed to fuck up mithrix. It was also the first time my friend played the game

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dio's best friend saved my ass big time

dull ingot
edgy siren
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huntress is great

high torrent
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huntress is fine as long as auto aim hits things that I want to hit

half kraken
edgy siren
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why

dull ingot
thorn oak
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huntress worst character in game mathematically proven by god himself

plain briar
zinc kernel
dull ingot
# edgy siren why

don't say huntress is great, you're gonna get exposed.... be careful

gray frigate
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First person mod doesnt work anymore? Or did I install it wrong

worn falcon
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gd2

fleet torrent
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I'm very furious at myself. I was trying to unlock Acrid and was on the second to last vent with some pretty decent items, I was sitting there waiting for the timer and fidgeting my feet since there weren't enemies nearby, I SOMEHOW managed to push the off button with my toe and my entire computer turned off, now I have to do all of that AGAIN.

desert atlas
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how

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and why do you not have your pc on your desk?

fleet torrent
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Not the power on the pc, the power on the outlet. those little strip things with multiple sockets

desert atlas
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oh

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why do you not have your power strip on your desk?

fleet torrent
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damn that's a good point.

tired grove
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dude I'm there as well
I was close to obliteraing and unlocking the weeb but I got one shot by an imp

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good ass run though to say I'm only 10h into the game

fleet torrent
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ok, got back into it

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aaaaand the monsters are taking steroids.

low laurel
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so i got power mode

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i was expecting a challenge

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the only thing it challenged was my patience

desert atlas
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you didn't do it on monsoon like you should've (elitist)

low laurel
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says the extreme pro epic gamer dude to the low tier player who prefers to play how he wants

desert atlas
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no (yes)

low laurel
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not a single monster spawned in the entire time i was there

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not
a
single
one

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anyway, what is the best ability combo to have with Power Mode?

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i seriously want to know

desert atlas
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honestly they're all pretty good

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double rebar is probably the weakest, but it's good damage

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and you can proc bands easily

fleet torrent
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I have discovered that topaz brooch stacks. I am now a killing machine.

desert atlas
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how did you not know that

lavish ocean
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every items stack bro

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what the fuck

tired grove
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stack serums as commando

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trust me its a fun time

remote turret
desert atlas
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powersaw works as well

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rebar is good for damage runs

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and scrap launcher is just a good all-around powermode

remote turret
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isn't scrap launcher the one that turns you into the mul-t-copter?

desert atlas
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no

remote turret
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or is that saw?

desert atlas
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that's saw

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also, fuck slowmode

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a one second slow mode would prevent spam anyway

remote turret
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hngh saw has been painfully elusive

desert atlas
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oof

remote turret
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i either get the preon or the overlord, but never both

desert atlas
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best advice is just command for a guaranteed preon and then loop until imp

remote turret
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tbh i might just do that

desert atlas
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what I did was just rush rallypoint for the preon and hope for an imp

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if I didn't get an imp, I repeated

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less fun, but less time consuming

fleet torrent
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fighting the so called "king of nothing" asshole's stealing my items what a jerk

lavish ocean
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thats why u gotta beat the shit out of him to receive your items back

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think, cario, think!

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imagine him as a thief

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fucking murder them cut his lungs his kidney

fleet torrent
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I accidentally killed him with my revolver and got an achievement so...

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rad.

lavish ocean
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poggu

rose lagoon
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You got that accidentally? That's based as hell

high torrent
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I think it has more to do with stand of Norisuke Higashikata

keen fractal
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if mithrix is the king of nothing does that mean he owns the void

fallow hare
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naw but he’s the king of my bank account balance

keen fractal
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king of [witty punch line]

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or better yet, king of [REDACTED]

tall quarry
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King of your girlfriend

dull ingot
loud stream
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The void had a whole dog and a few crabs

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And some other random junk

solar nimbus
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unnecessary risk ftw

gentle shard
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Wooooooooooooooo guess who just got their second mastery skin!?!?

noble delta
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hey, would this plan for the calm work:
Preon + stacked gestalts

plain briar
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worst item discussion: go

noble delta
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first off my friend says that fireworks are bad, are they really?

plain briar
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not really no

noble delta
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what about with the teleporter farm artifacts (swarms,command,sacrifice)

plain briar
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what do you mean

noble delta
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sacrifice removes chests

plain briar
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I'm aware of what the artifacts do

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I'm not certain of what you're asking

noble delta
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is the fireworks as effective with less interactibles

plain briar
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it is less effective with fewer interactables, yes

dull ingot
plain briar
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if you are only ever activating the teleporter and not bothering with drones and have sacrifice on, you may want to choose another white item

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just... play the game

dull ingot
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^

warm salmon
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some drones are worth just for the agro pull

noble delta
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is the t80 prototype really worth every penny though?

warm salmon
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upon losing shields is remaining dmg dropped or carried over to armor/health

warm salmon
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empathy cores or stompy monster?

noble delta
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stompy monster?

warm salmon
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quens gland

noble delta
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uh, idk, pick one

dull ingot
severe chasm
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Eh

noble delta
severe chasm
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Its ok

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Tc 280s are alright but they cost an insane amount of money

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Incinerator drones are better

dull ingot
severe chasm
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They cost less and are on a better stage

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Tc280s cost FOURTY credits

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That's almost 3 chests

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Spawn director cost btw

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Not gold cost

noble delta
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which is a better equipment for a equipment spam loadout

keen onyx
dull ingot
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what difficulty u play on?

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what items do u get for engineer

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have you tried getting 8 crit glasses and 1 shatterspleen

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with a uh

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predatory instincts

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I dont understand

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yeah i’d see that

keen onyx
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Scythe also does the hidden 5%

dull ingot
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anything with "on crit" in the stats has a hidden +5% chance, which is really nice

lapis cosmos
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Try moving turrets

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Very fun, promotes a more active play style

fleet torrent
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I found a gold portal

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what it do

reef pollen
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Mini boss

fleet torrent
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cool

reef pollen
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If u beat it he becomes a minion

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For teleporter

fleet torrent
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How many times can desperado stack and why is it so fun with shaped glass?

raven lichen
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unlimited, but they reset each stage

fleet torrent
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SO TECHNICALLY IF I SHOOT ENOUGH

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I can kill everything in one shot

raven lichen
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yes correct
its +60% base per stack

fleet torrent
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bandit rocks

dull ingot
fleet torrent
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w-what

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what are they gonna do to my boy?

dull ingot
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Bandit doesn't change, but he gets a hell of a lot weaker in terms of his special

fleet torrent
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oh. thought that you meant that I'm gonna get my ass kicked by like 30 parents

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which I did.

dull ingot
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lmao that sounds about right

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get some crowbars to do some gnarly damage

high torrent
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if you are commando, sure

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but with survivors that do have skills that do damage more than ~300% in one hit, crowbar is pretty valuable

dull ingot
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dude, it's 75% extra damage. that's 1050% base on lights out at 1 crowbar lmao

fleet torrent
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crowbars deal damage to over 90%, using desperado has a better chance of killing things in one shot, making you then deal more damage since you killed them too

dull ingot
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^

high torrent
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oh, bandit discuss

fleet torrent
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aye

high torrent
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lmao crowbars are top priority on bandito

dull ingot
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e x a c t l y
_ _

fleet torrent
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bandito

dull ingot
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not necessarily

fleet torrent
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yes, but revolver go spin

dull ingot
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lol

high torrent
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aoe is gasoline, ukulele, willowisp, kjaro

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from all of these, only gasoline is white

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plus bandit doesn't even really need any damage items because of how broken he is

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i usually prioritize movement

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r u trollin

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trollin is forbidden in gd2, troll people in gd1

dull ingot
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I'm kidding, but also I think he's pretty balanced

high torrent
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fun is when you smash your

fleet torrent
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i kill everything within 10 seconds.

high torrent
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yeah

fleet torrent
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including bosses!

high torrent
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bamdit

dull ingot
fleet torrent
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yes ok captain but does he have cowboy hat

high torrent
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hmmmm, you also can use crudely drawn buddy decoy from ror1

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as a base

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and reference

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nice cat

merry karma
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cat

high torrent
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@summer terrace imagine

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nice

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nah, etg is really a very polished and good game

fleet torrent
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BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EEEYES

high torrent
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DOES IT ALMOST FEEL LIKE NOTHING CHANGED AT ALL

dull ingot
fleet torrent
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"Risk of rain's lore is incredibly deep and very hard to understand with many amazing stories to tell and countless backgrounds for seemingly small items" also risk of rain:

somber rock
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What’s up dog?

tired axle
high torrent
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⬆️ Patcrid

cyan stag
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yep, looks like updog

hollow orbit
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I love hopoo so much

fluid notch
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Ok

tired axle
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update on the tierlist after getting some more votes

edgy siren
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Bro wtf, why is loader and huntress c tier

high torrent
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we hate

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we seethe we cope

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autoplay is a menace to society

edgy siren
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i am not coping

hybrid vault
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Because huntress is the weakest survivor

split lotus
tired axle
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I asked people to vote on cosistency but for some reason a lot of them voted F on loader

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So basically, i have no idea what this is ranking

high torrent
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honestly, i die on loader all the time

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pogman dies on loader all the time

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acridkitty dies on loader all the time

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pretty consistent if you ask

edgy siren
high torrent
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you know this game has a bit deceiving descriptions

rose lagoon
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I feel like merc is the weakest, I just can't get obliteration on him

high torrent
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nah you need to play more

rose lagoon
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He's more fun that Huntress though

high torrent
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guy is aight when you know how to time exposes

rose lagoon
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Fun

tired axle
rose lagoon
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Glass nail gun

high torrent
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lowest, but pretty consistent if you can talk to your auto aim and beg it for mercy so it actually aims at something

edgy siren
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The only problems I have with auto-aim is if I’m close to an enemy

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Which as huntress youre not supposed to do

high torrent
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she's weird mid-range

tired axle
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melee huntress

high torrent
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gotta run around at a certain angle

summer terrace
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huntress is fine

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if you do bad as her

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skill issue

severe chasm
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Everyone is a melee character for 20% more damage

cyan stag
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im not melee but 20% is 20%

hybrid vault
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look at merc's m1 hitbox and tell me he isn't ranged

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yes

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it's sort of an injoke that merc is a ranged character because of the massive hitbox on m1

tired axle
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still waiting for melee huntress

hybrid vault
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we need melee huntress

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then she'll be good because every melee character in this video game is busted

zinc kernel
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Which statements identify evidence of continental drift? Check all that apply.

night turret
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can Aurelionite be inflicted with status effects while it is invincible?

turbid furnace
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Does the game keep getting harder after you reach hahahahahahahahahahaha?

night turret
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yes

warm salmon
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found my first cloaked chest : bustling fungus

night turret
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fudgesicles

hybrid vault
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acrid is good

severe chasm
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Melee acrid is insane

fluid notch
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Lily

cyan stag
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Billy

fleet torrent
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question. does soldier's syringe make MUL-T's nail gun fire more nails faster?

tired axle
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Yes

fleet torrent
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cool.

tired axle
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I'm surprised this is such a common question

merry karma
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you can fly with enough attack speed

fleet torrent
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you can what

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with the saw you mean?

merry karma
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nail gun

tired axle
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It has a bit of self knockback on the nail blast

fleet torrent
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really?

tired axle
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Yes

fleet torrent
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so it does!

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...well I know what I'm doing with command today

fleet torrent
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multiple purities and desperado is the shit

hybrid vine
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desperado is legit. 10/10 skill

dull ingot
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Lol

fleet torrent
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"Lights out is very strategic, you need to make sure to pick your options right to make sure everything that you shoot will die when you shoot it in order to refresh it and be able to repeat the process."
"i killed like 20 wisps gonna kill the boss brb"

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this hud looks so fucking cool ngl

limpid drum
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Release risk of rain 2 alpha hopoo

autumn cipher
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ror2.5

desert atlas
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nkuhana's was green?

fluid notch
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At one point in development

real monolith
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man, it might just be because it looks different, but i honestly kinda like they way the alpha screenshots look

fleet torrent
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I think I messed something up, bandit's description is just...this.

merry karma
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did you miss a quotation mark

fleet torrent
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It does have a description in the files though

merry karma
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maybe you missed a comma I don't remember the formatting though

fleet torrent
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wait...

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this is the full thing

merry karma
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if the last thing in the file is the skin alt1 name maybe omit the comma at the end

fleet torrent
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like that?

merry karma
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yeah

fleet torrent
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yaeh it's still not working

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also I just checked

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the same thing is happening to the alt skin

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Ok. I don't know how I fixed it but I took the captain's stuff ( "CAPTAIN_DESCRIPTION" : "") and just copied pasted it to the bandit and changed captain to bandit 2 and it...worked.

sudden gust
tired axle
#

tierlist time, we got ~25-30 votes total

#

don't ask me why loader is the second lowest, i'm just the messenger

#

guess the item tierlist is next

high torrent
#

because lodr is baaaaad borin brainded uwu

#

ssuss

merry karma
#

sus

#

based and basedacridkittypilled

misty shore
#

How dare you do my boy engie like that

high torrent
#

a is a good tier

tired axle
#

engi is better than loader happiesttroll

high torrent
#

true!

dull ingot
# tired axle tierlist time, we got ~25-30 votes total

would love to see a tier list with at least 10,000 votes- not because I don't like this one (I think it's quite accurate lol), but because I want to see who people fine overpowered or underpowered or more fun, etc.

tired axle
#

if you can somehow get 10k people to join the voting server be my guest haha

faint onyx
#

Huntress would be S++ :/

dull ingot
#

lmaooo

dull ingot
high torrent
#

#poll be like
like
am i a joke to you guys

full gale
#

Yes

dull ingot
merry karma
#

@raven lichen what if you posted the survivor poll from lab in this #poll channel

raven lichen
#

🤔

zealous grove
dull ingot
zealous grove
#

wait this is gd2 😳

high torrent
#

mfw hivemind oppresses majority

high torrent
undone quartz
#

What's the best legendary item from your perspective

pearl hedge
#

frost relic

undone quartz
#

Why that

high torrent
#

headstompers

undone quartz
#

Oh ok

south elm
#

Depends on the charecter, phase blink huntress with either alien head or hardlight afterburner is fantastic,

pearl hedge
dull ingot
high torrent
#

i really enjoy them a lot

#

funny trimping goes wheeeeewww

dull ingot
pearl hedge
#

headstompers are fun but they don't deserve to be a red

dull ingot
high torrent
#

MAKE EM WHITE

pearl hedge
#

yellow

dull ingot
#

Id say green lowest

high torrent
#

but guy talked about perspective

#

and i would take em over anything

pearl hedge
#

well the "no fall damage" is worthy of a red, but the slam attack is not

dull ingot
high torrent
#

yah

#

the enhanced trimping ability - that's it

dull ingot
dull ingot
high torrent
#

i can agree tho that slam attack needs some build-up

dull ingot
#

Absolutely

high torrent
#

my favourite greens are hopoos and quails

dull ingot
high torrent
#

and yeah, i enjoy combining the three

dull ingot
high torrent
#

ok innate wincon

#

would be boring

#

already had runs where i chunked away quarters of health from mitchell

#

oneshotting him nearly every headstompers run would be cruel

dull ingot
#

Mitchell lmaoo that's probably the best autocorrect name I've seen for mithrix

high torrent
#

it's not autocorrectMonsoonSaiyan

dull ingot
pearl hedge
#

9 APR

#

#unbiased

high torrent
dull ingot
#

Congratulations on getting a single kill on stage 4. Would you like to show me more than a single example, or should I continue?

high torrent
#

it wasnt a single, bunch of imps died too

dull ingot
#

Lmao

dull ingot
high torrent
#

you could get wake of vultures

#

amazing red

dull ingot
#

That math doesn't check out...

pearl hedge
#

Bruh you fell onto his head with 9APRs and procced two bands

high torrent
#

royal does some chonkk

dull ingot
#

A) it would be 3.3 times better
B) in the span it takes to deal a single, 10k% headstomp hit, you can deal 6k damage with just the capacitor alone.

If you tried to hit three headstompers, you would deal 12k damage with cap

high torrent
half kraken
#

you can deal 6k damage with capacitor

how did you arrive at this conclusion

high torrent
#

crazy

dull ingot
#

My point is it takes so long to recharge that 10k isn't that much

half kraken
#

H3AD5T_v2 has 10 second cooldown

dull ingot
#

Bruh moment

high torrent
#

gotta check tho

half kraken
dull ingot
#

Yeah ik I just checked wiki

pearl hedge
#

Capacitor doesn't require vertical clearance to work, can stack charges and has (near) infinite range

#

Also can't be stolen by Michael

dull ingot
#

Lol

high torrent
#

interesting, scales up with fall distance

@raven lichen so headstompers deal 10k max or it can surpass the number if you fall from bigger height?

pearl hedge
#

The max AoE on the headstompers is pog but that's about it

dull ingot
#

Also not to mention the cool down goes down from a green, rather than more reds

high torrent
#

capacitor is indeed one of the most unbalanced and broken things in game

pearl hedge
#

Can we talk about how preon accumulator is shit due to its bigass cooldown?

#

Preon accumulator is shit due to its bigass cooldown

high torrent
dull ingot
dull ingot
#

You mean with the heavy tag, yes?

high torrent
#

yup

high torrent
#

ic

dull ingot
#

I think (think) it already is heavy

raven lichen
#

it only scales height traveled

#

it used to be speed tho

high torrent
#

yeah, before it scaled from your falling speed

half kraken
pearl hedge
#

How far do you need to travel for the max damage on headstompers?

half kraken
#

not much

pearl hedge
#

Gimme a number

half kraken
#

you just need to hit the highest falling speed

half kraken
pearl hedge
raven lichen
#

max distance is 30?
idk 30 what tho, doesnt seem at all to be 30m

#

max fall speed also 30

dull ingot
#

30hu

pearl hedge
#

30 sounds really low

dull ingot
#

I love it

raven lichen
#

very cool

pearl hedge
#

150m sounds more like it

mild swift
#

2hours

onyx hearth
#

Capacitor + 10 Runalds_Band + Gesture_of_the_Drowned = win

quiet swan
fleet dragon
#

Just thought I post this I just feel bad

granite shard
#

that doesn't feel like a lot of items for 80 minutes
that's one item every 90 seconds -- you can get a lot more than that

slow condor
#

the item rng there in general is just
ouch

zinc kernel
#

they're pretty good already tbh they don't need a buff

half kraken
#

just no

granite shard
full gale
#

Yeah

onyx hearth
quiet swan
#

still good to have

remote turret
#

drizzle ez mode unlock runs go brr

#

i say go brr but i only unlocked like. one thing.

dire wadi
#

getting a forgive me please for the brooches works wonders too

remote turret
#

oho i see

tepid wolf
#

Then you still have bad damage and bad HP

#

Because it's still huntress

#

Also no, just use the artifact of glass, that can save you like 30 minutes of time (which is especially important as huntress)

remote turret
#

don't have glass yet but i'll unlock that then

tepid wolf
#

With artifact of glass that phase blink will come in handy

#

Also that artifact works with the shaped glass item. So 2 shaped glass + artifact of glass is 20 times the damage

remote turret
#

oh yea i forgot you could stack that

#

maybe that's how i'll do the no-dmg achievement

whole lotus
#

gaming

warm salmon
#

im gonna say it

#

Nanobots are OP

oak kelp
#

Frankly aggreed🙏

dull ingot
zinc kernel
fluid notch
#

gd7

dull ingot
zinc kernel
#

if you use it when you jump it's like 1700%

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1500% if it's a bad jump

#

it's only like 1000% if you barely leave the floor

dull ingot
zinc kernel
#

Eitherways they're still really strong

#

especially with wax quail/bands

dull ingot
#

Actually, they're less strong with wax quail, because you're not falling as far

real isle
#

Oh, cool cool

#

I just got RoR 2 a week or two ago because of a friend that was playin it, so far it was fun. I haven’t gotten to stage four yet, ever. Only stage 3 ;-;

dull ingot
real isle
#

Thanks B)

zinc kernel
#

they are 100% better with quail

dull ingot
quiet swan
#

half the time i get launched into space, and i then get sent back to the map instantly cus i hit the skybox in .6 seconds of jumping

lavish ocean
dull ingot
lavish ocean
#

oh i see

viral hare
#

https://ptpb.io/O+oJOf.png I wish I was enough of a baller that I could say I survived phase 2. Maybe next time I can fulfill my 1hp dreams.

#

I wish there was an artifact that was 1 hit = 1 death.

gritty hollow
charred trench
# real isle I just got RoR 2 a week or two ago because of a friend that was playin it, so fa...

Cool, just thought I'd throw out a few tips I guess

•Doing each level in 4.5-6 minutes is better than a full sweep earlier in a run because of the over time difficulty increase
•Saving up on lunar coins isn't super imprtant. Items only cost 2 and reroll is 2,4,8,16...
•Try to unlock characters, they're all super unique (me waiting for Bandit on console)
•Don't worry, there's nothing wrong with playing on drizzle if you suck you suck... but seriously, it's fine I can only get stage 4 on monsoon

Anyway hope you have fun with the game!

hybrid vine
#

the game is difficult, my first monsoon clear was like 120 hours in

prime halo
#

Hello, all! I'm pretty new to the game.

#

Not new as in just starting out, but still just getting to know how everything works.

#

I've already unlocked the Captain and Engineer among a few other Survivors.

charred trench
#

Welcome, hope you have fun! I literally just got done dumping some tips on someone else new, heh

prime halo
#

It's been decent so far.

#

Just failed a two-player run as Engineer.

tall oracle
#

Engi is fun but people seem to really hate him lmao

half kraken
#

engi is fun

prime halo
#

I've enjoyed Captain and Bandit too.

half kraken
#

for me it's rex merc bandit and mult

charred trench
prime halo
#

Yeah... Engi's mobility is trash.

tall oracle
#

Turret

charred trench
half kraken
#

lack of mobility is not a problem

tall oracle
#

I want engi to be able to rocket jump tbf

half kraken
#

never stopped people from enjoying cap and arti

prime halo
#

arti?

half kraken
#

yeah arti has no mobility other than glide and ion surge

#

and next to nobody uses ion surge

tall oracle
half kraken
#

glide helps you cross some gaps but it doesnt really add to her stage clearing speed or combat mobility at all

tall oracle
#

They’re new

#

I mean atrocious is new

prime halo
tall oracle
#

They probably don’t know who artificer or Rex is

prime halo
half kraken
#

i think you should go learn about the void fields

#

Do you know the bazaar?

prime halo
#

No?

tall oracle
#

Ah you have lodr

half kraken
#

the blue portal thingy

charred trench
#

Jump off the back side of the start platform in the bazaar

#

There's a secret area

prime halo
#

Cool

charred trench
#

And in siren's call try finding and breaking a bunch of eggs
Nevermind just realized you have loader already

half kraken
#

do you know the blue portal place?

prime halo
#

Nope

#

I believe I've been to it once

#

in another person's run

half kraken
#

there are some things called " newt altars " around the map

analog raptor
#

oh new player?

half kraken
#

spending 1 lunar on them will make a blue portal appear once teleporter is done

it brings you there

prime halo
#

Good to know.

half kraken
#

it also has a 37.5% chance of appearing for free, you can see it in the chat by " a blue orb appears "

analog raptor
#

I'm not good at explaining things i'll leave that to you

#

bye

half kraken
#

every time it appears for free or otherwise = the chance of it appearing for free is halved

prime halo
#

Diminishing returns?

half kraken
#

the bazaar has the following

  • lunar items for sale, they use your permanent lasting currency called lunar coins to purchase. they have an upside and a downside

  • cauldrons where you can trade 3 common items (white) for a green item or five green items for a legendary item, they accept scrap like printers so if you have 5 green scrap its really worth checking there

  • access to void fields

half kraken
# prime halo Diminishing returns?

well no just the chance of it appearing for free

you can just hit a newt altar and have a guaranteed spawn. At least one appears every stage, wiki has the locations

prime halo
#

Ah.

half kraken
#

Anyways the bazaar also has a survivor for sale for 10 lunar coins

#

so like

save 10 (11 for the newt altar if you must) lunar coins and you can get yourself a new survivor

tall oracle
#

I must be dumb because I can’t tell what the other character they don’t have outside of Rex acrid and arti is

#

It’s not lodr so they’ve killed ballin

half kraken
#

merc

tall oracle
#

Ohh

#

How tf do you unlock merc anyway lmao

half kraken
#

obliterate

prime halo
#

obliterate?

tall oracle
#

I was about to say that

half kraken
tall oracle
#

Stage 8

half kraken
#

in there you will find an altar that lets you " obliterate yourself from existence "

tall oracle
#

Unless that changed in anniversary?

half kraken
#

it counts as a victory and ends your run right there

hybrid vine
#

its basically either of the stage 3 options after looping

prime halo
#

How do you loop then?

half kraken
#

you get 5 lunar coins + a new playable char

half kraken
prime halo
#

I don't think so.

half kraken
#

you can interact with the outer dents to make them move

#

but additionally you can also check out the bottom of sky meadow to enter the bulwarks ambry

gotta insert the code for some artifact

full gale
half kraken
#

in there you can

  • unlock an artifact
  • loot chests without worrying about time
charred trench
#

Obliterating also gets you 5 coins so it's worth it over just dying

viral hare
#

you can also blue portal on stage5

#

I'm a filthy lunar addict, so I prefer newt looping.

fleet torrent
#

The fact that hopoo confirmed that the characters who didn't get voted for aren't off the table makes me so happy that chef may someday arrive

quiet prairie
#

I hope for hand and sniper

dull ingot
#

if hopoo will add sniper then I wonder how they are gonna make his drone work like is his drone going to be invincible or nah and stuff like that

gritty hollow
#

Tbh, I can only beat monsoon using loader

#

No one else

tired axle
#

yeah, loader is loader

gritty hollow
#

Also, sorry if I interrupted someone lol

gritty hollow
tired axle
#

pretty much the entire community agrees that she's by far the strongest

quartz saffron
#

casually doing as much dmg every second that others can do after half a minute of shooting

summer terrace
#

I still think rex is as strong

half kraken
#

funny stuff

quartz saffron
#

which mult? double rebar or power mode?

tired axle
#

powermode mult is probably on the same level as loader, yeah

half kraken
#

powermode mult nailgun

#

i'd argue its stronger than loader in 6mm because at least loader can get hit and die

tired axle
#

yeah, double nail is stronk, and you kinda just don't die cause armor

half kraken
#

meanwhile mult be like

gets hit by 400% from mithrix

#

mult also clears stages really really fast with Brittle_Crown

hybrid vault
#

Remember that in power mode, if you have saw in the first slot and nailgun in the second slot, nailgun's accuracy is greatly increased

#

Yup, another Mul-T bug

tired axle
#

wait really?

#

that's weird

half kraken
#

idk how i didn't notice that but maybe i'll start using that combo now

tired axle
#

is that also true for scrap launcher then?

hybrid vault
#

Double nailgun still has better nailjumping though

hybrid vault
half kraken
#

yeah im using it for eclipse

#

being able to skip commencement is such a gigantic advantage

hybrid vault
#

Man I wish the nailgun spreads in power mode went in opposite directions

#

It feels weird for them to both go in the same direction

half kraken
#

?

#

wym

hybrid vault
#

You know how nailgun spread is in a fixed corkscrew?

#

Both nailgun's rotate in the same direction in power mode

#

And it feels worse

#

It would be better if they rotated in opposite directions

half kraken
#

i never noticed that

hybrid vault
#

Oh also a fun fact I learned: if you are in power mode with nailgun in second slot and you get frozen, nailgun stays out

half kraken
#

perhaps cause no graphics

hybrid vault
#

Although it's cancelled if you stop holding m2 or sprint

#

And the nailgun keeps shooting while frozen

#

This probably also works with saw, but I didn't have enough time to test that last night

onyx hearth
#

Personally I find loader more fun than double nail mul-T, because loader go speed

hybrid vault
#

okay so saw does not stay active when you get frozen out of power mode

#

but nailgun does

fleet torrent
#

now I could technically "make a build" or "choose wisely" or i could have a fun run

#

with drugs, feathers, and seeds

onyx hearth
#

3 Quail + H3AD5T_v2 = no mithrix

tired axle
#

here's the objective white item tierlist, based entirely on facts, logic and your mother

fluid notch
#

no

tired axle
#

fuck

severe chasm
#

No

#

Focus not being SSS hurts my soul

onyx hearth
#

I’d lower slug and raise tooth

summer terrace
#

I agree with this list

#

raise tooth

#

but keep slug

quiet swan
#

I would put back up in B+ and sticky in C+. i could just be underestimating the power of sticky though

tired axle
#

sticky is pretty much just lensmaker's without the synergy but with slight aoe

#

every stack is +9% damage with 1.0 proc coeff

hybrid vault
#

I thought sticky didn't have a proc co

tired axle
#

if the hit that procced it had a 1.0 coeff

#

sticky itself is 0 proc coeff

hybrid vault
#

Oh

full gale
cyan stag
#

B rating is still pretty high happiesttroll

hybrid vault
#

Brooch should be lower

elfin wigeon
#

Shield generator in D

hybrid vault
#

Shield gen good

#

It gives a lot of health

#

And it doesn't even remove osp

#

Even if it did, osp doesn't matter outside of looping Mitchell's big spinny

#

Since a lot of Mitchell's attacks can bypass osp because they have multiple overlapping hitboxes

tired axle
full gale
#

I like healing 👍

hybrid vault
#

The big slam in phase 1 has an explosion hitbox and the hammer hitbox, the big slam in phase 3 has an explosion hitbox, the hammer hitbox, the shockwave hitboxes and the flame pillar hitbox

#

And then the fast hammer swipe doesn't bring you to osp

#

And lunar shards will never get you to osp

#

So the only attack osp matters on is big spinny

cyan stag
#

when playing command a guy told me using choosing bison on a white is better than spending a green on infusion

elfin wigeon
#

I loop so I don't care about osp

#

I just don't like shields as a whole

hybrid vault
#

Psg gives a lot of health/shield

cyan stag
#

because greens are too valuable or something like that

full gale
#

More health = cooler

mossy garden
full gale
#

Ghor please you don't understand
I merely prefer healing with leeching seed and scythe than wait for my hp to come back on its own after 9 seconds

summer terrace
#

all the devs pfps are looking left

dull ingot
#

Because they’re all judging chat

merry karma
arctic osprey
#

But shield gen doesnt even remove green health???

#

Unless I’m mistaken

#

So what does liking healing have to do with it

#

If it’s just extra health

modern ether
#

the shield portion of your hp counts towards OSP, if you have 1 shield gen then (without the shield) you only have 92% health, OSP is removed when you are below 90% hp so if you have insane healing, the shield removes a % of your max hp that you would otherwise heal without getting hit

hybrid vault
#

osp reliance is cringe

tired axle
#

because osp is relevant

hybrid vault
#

psg > osp

arctic osprey
#

I thought that’s what people meant when they said it removed osp

hybrid vault
#

even if psg deleted osp, I would still take psg

arctic osprey
#

So ghor is lying to us

#

What the freak...

hybrid vault
#

psg doesn't remove osp

tired axle
#

i mean, how often do you really get oneshot twice in 9s

#

cause psg will still block the first hit from oneshotting you

arctic osprey
#

It’s like the man did not even read what I said

hollow radish
#

psg is pretty damn trash

#

avoid at all costs unless you've located a scrapper

#

there's still no way to buff shields but a lot of ways to heal and leech

hybrid vault
#

shield itself is worse than health, but you can get much more shield health than normal health through items, since shield items are %based, and health items are flat besides pearl and irradiant pearl but good luck getting those

#

psg is good

whole lotus
#

psg makes health regen stronger too

#

anything that protects your hp protects regen

dull ingot
#

honestly, PSG is better than people give it credit for. As long as you don't get hit for 8 seconds, you're almost guaranteed to get 90%+ max health

prime halo
#

RoR2's Survivors are based

dull ingot
#

facts

prime halo
#

I unlocked Artificer earlier

dull ingot
#

not worth it imo, but she might be your playstyle

prime halo
#

she's fragile as hell, but really fun to play otherwise

dull ingot
#

ah, nice

prime halo
#

good for fire support

#

like Captain

dull ingot
dull ingot
tulip nimbus
dull ingot
#

lmao

prime halo
#

How do I beat the Artifact Reliquary bossfight?

limpid drum
#

then interact with the boss to deposit it and do 1/4 of its hp iirc

#

rinse and repeat

merry karma
#

beware though the orb can knock you up in the air

fluid notch
#

the orb

dull ingot
elfin wigeon
#

Propaganda

quiet swan
#

since when has the TP been able to spawn up here?

whole lotus
#

Always

#

I think it's just super rare because ofc that part of the map is randomly generated

quiet swan
#

out of all the times ive played this map, ive never had this spawn here

whole lotus
#

yeah its not particularly common at all. its like having the tele spawn in the caves in depths or the island in distant roost first variant, another layer of rng

half kraken
#

i had quite a lot of cave / island tps but i only had that one spot in sundered grove a single time so far

ornate plover
#

Hey how do i download the anniversary upadte for ps4 if i have the game on disk. It isn’t working

dull ingot
ornate plover
#

Sadness

dull ingot
#

yeah 😔 hope y'all get your update soon

ornate plover
#

Am big sad

dull ingot
# ornate plover Am big sad

also just to let you know, you can get a role in #role-assignment that allows you to post pictures (in appropriate channels) and change the color of your name!

I saw you were new to discord so I'm assuming you're new to the server too

ornate plover
#

Ye I got it like 3 days ago

dull ingot
#

nice

tough stratus
#

Anything more on console update release

misty shore
#

June 8th or something?

fluid notch
#

june

#

no date has been mentioned

dull ingot
#

Could be June 2021 or could be June 2022

#

Nobody knows

stray gorge
#

me and the bois HAhaa

#

why does it take 10 min for the clone to spawn HAhaa

tall quarry
#

You must be very patient anyway, right? I mean, how else could you have gotten that many lunar coins?

stray gorge
#

very hard grinding, of course HAhaa

tough stratus
remote turret
#

aiming to do thunderdome today; what do i avoid for a slightly easier time with the artifact?

#

ik teddies are one, but i'm not sure if that's it tho

modern ether
#

avoid anything like teslas and autoaiming things cos they kinda ouchie

onyx hearth
#

And you don’t really need to avoid that many items, except maybe gesture and Tesla coil

keen onyx
#

Avoid anything that you wouldn't feel comfortable fighting yourself. Ie the perforaters, tesla, dios if you fear the i frames they give, nu'kahanas if you have significant healing, ect.

warm salmon
#

shoot! can you not obliverate on eclipse?

hybrid vault
warm salmon
#

aw man

echo matrix
#

What would you guys react with if the next survivor was just named Oig

warm salmon
#

id react with excitment

#

likely depression

#

anxiety

dull ingot
#

just realized planula is probably god tier in void fields

#

if you have <1500 health

#

then again, that number goes up by 500 per repulsion armor plate you have

#

so still amazing

faint river
#

why do some people hate rachius

dull ingot
#

not sure. I think it's pretty cool

faint river
#

its shaped glass but osp

dull ingot
#

ehh
it's like.. 75% a shaped glass

#

the pros are half, but the cons are gone, so it's like.. slightly better than half a shaped glass

#

relative cons, of course

tough stratus
keen onyx
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Get enough of them and the entire game becomes extra damage

fluid notch
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rachis

dull ingot
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*evil laugh*

keen onyx
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Probably one of pixars best films. Shame the sequal added nothing of value

dull ingot
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yeah :/

dull ingot
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just gonna point out that Loader doesn't have an exoskeleton covering her legs, which means the fall damage negation comes straight from her lmao

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stronk leg

keen onyx
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Loader is the give no fucks character, did you expect anything else?

dull ingot
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fair

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lol

keen onyx
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Although that segways into another great point. Loaders who take the headset v much annoy me

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Like give that to literally anyone else. I have never seen one take the headset and then use its ability

hybrid vault
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headstompers is super good on lodr because she can easily get to the height required for the full power stomp

keen onyx
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Yes, but only if she actually does

hybrid vault
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fair

keen onyx
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If she doesn't use the ability, give it to literally anyone else to negate their fall damage

hybrid vault
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but that's a problem with people being dumb

keen onyx
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Agreed.

hybrid vault
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I don't think a lot of people know how powerful the adidas sneaker slam really is

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10000% damage every 10 seconds at max height is actually busted

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hompers is one of, if not the strongest red item

keen onyx
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Oh its great. It USED to suck, but now its pretty good. Albeit not exactly the most intuitive or natural to use. But if you don't use it, its passives aren't too bad for low mobility chars

rapid pier
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ok serious question
out of all of the RoR2 Monsters
Which one would you want as a pet?

fluid notch
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illegal

keen onyx
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As a pet? Dunno. Probably a default beetle. Easy enough to take care of, no weird quirks, Probably about as smart as a dog.

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If it was completely trained and tame, a lemurian could be neat.

rapid pier
keen onyx
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Oh lesser wisps can go boil themselves. Stupidly accurate laser shotgun things and FLYING gah, i hate them so much

rapid pier
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well yeah

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but if you think about it
they are just trying to protect their homeland

dull ingot
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Hypothetically, you can become invincible if you get 78 bungus and a rejuvenation rack

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With 78 bungus, you get over 90% max health per tick, which means OSP is constantly up

Just don't get moved and you're fine

merry karma
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so not invincible 😏

quartz saffron
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what if you get shot in between ticks?

tired axle
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bungus only ticks like 4x per second, right?

dull ingot
dull ingot
tired axle
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yeah, so you still get 15 frames between ticks where you can die

dull ingot
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Where you can take damage*

OSP has a window where you're invincible to all damage, but by the time that window's up, you'll already have healed back to 100% :sunglasses:

tired axle
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actually, wait, what was that window again

dull ingot
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And if you don't, then take a foreign fruit for extra bullshittery

tired axle
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i think it was 1/10 of a second, or 6 frames, but i'm not 100% sure

dull ingot
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100% max health on heal (because of the rejuv rack you already have) and with a couple gestures, it's practically per second

dull ingot
tired axle
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should be in the 1.0 patch notes, one sec

dull ingot
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Oke

tired axle
dull ingot
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Cool

tired axle
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so foreign fruit would probably be more viable for this, with enough gestures

dull ingot
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I love when my stupidity is actually viable

tired axle
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or well, you could still be hit for 50% of your health twice with a 1 frame window in between the hits and therefor not trigger osp

dull ingot
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True 😔

tired axle
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so for actual invincibility you'd need fruit to heal 100% of your hp per frame

dull ingot
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Aegis tiem

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Really bring it overboard haha

tired axle
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so like 35 or so gestures

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wait, nvm, i'm stupid

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it would be 0.016s cd

quartz saffron
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how fast was that old gesture bug?

dull ingot
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It would be kinda cool if gesture kept charges for foreign fruit if you were at full health

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Or other healing items

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It would be ok to use if you had aegis because barrier is pretty useful, but without aegis it should hold onto the charges

tired axle
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46 gestures

mossy garden
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gesture is still bugged since it has no downside as a lunar happiesttroll

dull ingot
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Technically false

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Not being balanced doesn't mean it's a bug

tired axle
quartz saffron
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the one when you had a gotd before an equip, and then if you got an equip it would be used constantly without cd

tired axle
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oh, i don't even remember that

quartz saffron
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i remember one time i had a nkuhana and a fruit with that

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for that one lvl i was the healing god of the world

dull ingot
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Wow, that sounds amazing for meme runs

tired axle
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and that would be 0s cooldown, so one activation per frame

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or rather per game tick i guess, 1/60th of a second

quartz saffron
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radar scanner with it was trippy

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everything was white

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using it with backup would crash the game KEKW

tired axle
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meteor with that sounds fun

dull ingot
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👀

raven lichen
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oh yea also healing invulnerability is impossible since malachites were added to counter it (see engineer turrets)

onyx hearth
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Oh yeah malachites rip