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full gale
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Sometimes I defeat the boss and the item only drops when the tp charges fully

So yeah, tp be wonky

weak fractal
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yeah bosses just have a tiny chance to spawn in the void

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so it doesnt even register the boss and ignores an item

quiet swan
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its just late game be wonky

half ice
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how is there 6,000 people playing this game on steam but i only see 3 servers with people in them

dull ingot
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feelsbadman

vernal moth
hasty mauve
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who here is a proud owner of

dull ingot
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Me

mossy garden
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i owned it before it was cool

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war flashbacks on the 4%

tepid wolf
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Irradiant pearl would be nice if it wasn't such a scam

dull ingot
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Oh god

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I did have the 4% too, that’s when I got it

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no background for those that want it

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It was the last item I ever got, the last log

tepid wolf
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Like it being additive stat boost makes it so bad

dull ingot
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it's not exponential??

tepid wolf
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Nah

dull ingot
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and then mods wiped my game logs 😔

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actually cringe 😤

dull ingot
tepid wolf
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Only the base damage increase is the good stat really

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And the HP increase, but the regular pearl has it too

dull ingot
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I would honestly be fine if it didn't mess with your speed, because by the time I have an irradiant, I already have enough goat hooves to take me half way across the map lol

tepid wolf
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Most of the values should be multipliers

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So it would essentially be a mini tonic

merry karma
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it gives uh +10% base armor happiesttroll

tepid wolf
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Currently even the base damage increase is not that great when focus crystals exist

full gale
weak epoch
lapis cosmos
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Man gasoline is kind of insane now

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So good at killing wisps

onyx hearth
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Probably better than wisp jar

limpid drum
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idk why I keep seeing new gas is better than wisp

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it’s great for wisps and death mark now yes
but wisp is still insane, and I’ve only found it launching enemies as a benefit since they take fall damage or get sent into another surface so hard they shatter. of which the latter is more common for me

tired axle
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basically, wisp is 350% (+280%) damage while within 50% of it's radius, but only 87.5% (+70%) while on the outer half of it's radius

limpid drum
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oh whoa whoa wait

tired axle
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gasoline is always 300% (+75%)

tired axle
limpid drum
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THAT’S THE FALLOFF

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Jesus Christ

tired axle
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it's sweetspot falloff, which is actually used for most explosions in this game, like mando's nades, mult's scrap launcher, or preon accumulator

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all of them deal 75% less damage after hitting 50% of their range

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i still think it should be lowered to -50% damage tbh

limpid drum
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yeah I see now

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pain

dapper harness
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gaming discussion number 2

icy grove
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Are there lunar bulbs in the final area?

slender sigil
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if you mean commencement yes

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should be the island on the right regardless of what version you're on

icy grove
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Were are they? I cant find them...

slender sigil
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I'm not sure if they are guaranteed to spawn

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are you on pc

icy grove
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Yeah im on pc

slender sigil
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it should be an island covered in flowers and such

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and there are a couple pods scattered around

icy grove
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Thanks! I just found it

slender sigil
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👍

icy grove
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does anyone have any advice on how to get better, I can play on rainstorm no problem but monsoon gives me trouble...

slender sigil
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sounds unhelpful but practise

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also what is your profile picture from

icy grove
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calibretto from battle chasers is my profile, and yeah practicing will help for sure. Its also like my first week of haveing an actual pc for games

slender sigil
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in the grand scheme of things you should keep sprinting and dodging obviously, and aiming to spend 4-7 minutes on your first few stages

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other than that generally there's not anything in specific that can help you

icy grove
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did the game get harder with the last updates btw? i played on switch and remember being able to get everones skin easy

keen onyx
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They made ai changes, so yes. Lesser wisps are even more crazy accurate now even

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Having used mods to actually play as a lesser wisp, i don't see how they do it frankly.

haughty crane
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for the huntress, arrow rain or ballista?

onyx hearth
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ballista is better single target arrow rain can be better for hordes of many or prismatic trials

hybrid vault
onyx hearth
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artifact of glass and shaped glass are huntresses seviceable damage options

haughty crane
onyx hearth
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Shaped glass, the Lunar item that halves your health and 2x your damage

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super nice

haughty crane
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oh ok

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thank you

full gale
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Do you guys think Huntress is the type of person to not talk almost at all and instead shows emotions through her expressions; much like this server's emotes suggest?

dull ingot
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huntresspointhuntresssip
every time someone dies to an overloading brass contraption / overloading elder lemurian huntress takes a sip

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she's gonna get drunk bad prob after a few stages

full gale
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I want the devs to say that this is canon pogmando pogmando pogmando

blazing lagoon
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traffic light be like

wispy shore
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@icy grove another tip for monsoon, try to move pretty quickly to keep up with scaling. I would say to try to start the tp every 3 minutes. It’s ok if you don’t get all the loot. U got this bro!

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(But do grab SOME loot from each stage, just try not to sit and farm fir 7 minutes basically)

tired axle
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I'm too tired for this, @raven lichen

raven lichen
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same tbh haha, but generally 3 minutes is too fast. you dont want to skip loot since it scales you up to actually beat the timer, as opposed to growing slower but ramping up difficulty via the stage multiplier

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id actually recommend farming for like 6-8 minutes if theres loot to pick up still, longer on stages like sky meadows if you dont have a lot of movement.

keen onyx
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The people who say to speedrun stages are kinda wack. Like you do just as well or better if you grab more than 3 items, and unless someone really wastes time its not a huge deal

fallow depot
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what if you just try and speedrun tp but grab more loot after so you can leave fasterish?

keen onyx
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Frankly people that rush the tp almost as soon as we spawn in on mp games are the reason i despise monsoon, among others. Because they think they know how it's supposed to be, and ignore the other people saying "hey, maybe we aren't ready for dunestriders because we have no good items, because you rushed us?"

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That's good in theory, but in practice the power the items give almost always means you should grab them first. Especially on monsoon when things are tanky. Even one tri tip or a stickybomb saves more time than the speedrunning woulfld

raven lichen
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the goal is to get as much power per stage as possible, as quickly as possible
this way you make the most of the time scaling and stage scaling

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so if you can open chests faster thats great, but skipping them means not optimizing for the stage difficulty spikes

fallow depot
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i find early game killing enemies for money is... hard to find them. it feels like a big waste of time trying to farm money for chests before tp

merry karma
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you get less gold from tp event

keen onyx
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Yes. Balance power and time. People just seem to forget that you need items for power and screwing over the whole team in the process

fallow depot
raven lichen
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the director spawns more but worth less, in the end its less gold per min

keen onyx
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My general go to for stage one is everyone gets 2 items, and then its tp. Thats reasonable and means we can grab remaining stuff on the way out

fallow depot
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by early game i mean stage 1-3

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yeah

raven lichen
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also killing enemies feels boring but farming while ahead is how you consistently win. if enemies arent spawning fast enough, it means you are stronger then the director, killing what it spawns before it saves enough to spawn more

keen onyx
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But it also means we don't have like 3 minute boss fights because josegonzoles2004 hit the tp before 40 gold is obtained

fallow depot
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grab like 3 chests, do tp, grab some more that you can see or have seen, leave

raven lichen
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it can be more boring for experienced players, but it is optimal for newer players especially

fallow depot
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though some characters definitely need items early on more than others, cant really compare stage 1 commando and loader

keen onyx
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Having over 400 total hours, I'd say its honestly best to take a tp boss when you feel confident in solo play. In multiplayer, its when the majority of the team agrees. However if a player is falling behind for gods sakes HELP THEM

fallow depot
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falling behind in mp is misery

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and sometimes even trying to throw every item at that person fails

raven lichen
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MP is tough
only 50% more stuff spawns per player and not all of it will necessarily be items too

keen onyx
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If you lose a single player due to them not being able to live through spawning, then everyone else in the party is at fault. Everyone. If they are new? Throw more items at them and make do. If they afk thats one thing, but you can't turn that around without stupid rng

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Like people feeding you reds and lunars type spike in the bazaar

raven lichen
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so you end up with every player individually weaker but the team overall stronger

fallow depot
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my one genuine complaint in ror2 is how dying in multiplayer sets you back so much, especially after like 2 stages of dumb deaths or whatever

raven lichen
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dying basically means run is over
tho
tbf
thats the same as solo haha

keen onyx
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I like playing with itemsharesuite because of those damnable loot goblins, and keeping things fair. Now its a skill based game, not whatever greedy captain/huntress/merc or whatever gets the most with their item hoover

dull ingot
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Dios

raven lichen
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sharesuit was neat but in my experience despite their best efforts the game just felt waaaay easier

fallow depot
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should be able to use dios to resurrect a friend

keen onyx
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Idk. Mp is fun and its own experience, but people are just really awful sometimes

raven lichen
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you get so much more item value you can kind ajust do whatever most of the time

fallow depot
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i never play mp with randoms, and never without vc

keen onyx
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Sharesuite is absolutely game breaking yes. I use it with friends, but not usually with randos unless its kinda necessary

raven lichen
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tbh
i just prefer the game solo... more consistent

keen onyx
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Oh i play with randos, but in vc here. And i only stick with people that work together.

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If theres no vc, it won't work.

fallow depot
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this game is very fun in multiplayer i say

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2 player is my fav multiplayer amount, 4 is too much

keen onyx
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Oh its a blast when people work together. And some nasty stuff exists

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Tbh I'd like to play a game with you sometime jacob

raven lichen
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it is fun but i find it can just as easily feel sad, like you dont get as many item and are weaker so you get less item and the other players skyrocket and you feel like dead weight as soon as someone is really strong
or you are really strong and feel bad your mates are behind
or you feel bad when they take an item that would synergize well with you, but likewise feel bad passing an item you like because its better on them etc

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definitely personal preference and i like playing like 2-3p with people i know sometimes
but i do enjoy solo more personally

keen onyx
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Its all about consistently making snap decisions, and its both its best feature and its worst

raven lichen
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yea

fallow depot
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i feel like late game does just devolve into less hard decisions though, usually just “okay whos stacking bands?”

raven lichen
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late game in ror2 kinda dont really exist tho aha
once you win the arms race, youve won the arms race

keen onyx
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Yeah, after a certain point its basically just "i don't care for this, someone else can have"

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But until then i love the idea of dynamically deciding who gets what item and building not only yourself, but your team

fallow depot
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tis fun

keen onyx
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Agree

fallow depot
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wish it was an option you could turn off of uh auto picking up items when walking on them, would be helpful for not yoinking something you dont need

keen onyx
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Theres benefits and downsides to that. Sometimes you just can't stop to press e

fallow depot
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its like sometimes i have like 7 goat hoofs and my friend has 1 energy drink and i find another and just accidentally pick it up because brain not work or i just stood where it would be

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or picking up a proc item with purity

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scratch that ive never experienced that, not a purity fan on any character

keen onyx
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Purity to me is like... its good, but the downside is SO HUGE for no reason. Yeah its powerful but unless its idk, loader? Not usually worth it

fallow depot
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proc item fun

keen onyx
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The irony is a lot of the lunars contradict each other

fallow depot
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me want flashy things, purity make game not flash

keen onyx
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If you took them all, save whatever equipment you left behind, you'd probably be the most useless member of your team by a landslide

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One of every item lunar, and one equipment.

fallow depot
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defiant gouge is my fav lunar item since spinel isnt an item

keen onyx
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Tonic? Steadily worse over time. Hellfire? Social distancing enforced and even worse healing. Meteor? Everyone hates you. The statue? Melee as a whole despises you inconvenienced placements

raven lichen
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purity is nice on like acrid because DoTs dont work for procs anyways
but otherwise yea negative luck really hurts dps with proc chains

keen onyx
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Gouge is fun but good god, it is way stronger now. Same with rachis

fallow depot
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even on acrid not a huge fan of it, backup mags or hoping for brainstalks is good enough for me

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oh yeah rachis

keen onyx
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I LOVE rachis, but now having like 4 on an engie covers half the map and I'm like "what the-"

dull ingot
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kek

fallow depot
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rachis great

keen onyx
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Because I'm used to needing about 20 for that

raven lichen
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its just so much power for blight
turns 560% every 2s into 560% every 0.5s, 4x more damage output from m2 alone

keen onyx
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Rachis is the games unofficial hardmode

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For everyone

raven lichen
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betterwith bite too, and offers regenerative

fallow depot
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you ever played with rachis, effigy drone, and meteorite drone? fun game of many circles

keen onyx
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I honestly wish corpsebloom wasn't so horrid to stack. Even one gimps you so hard, and taking more just makes it worse in every way

raven lichen
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bloom is solid at 1 but theres no reason to take more 😔

fallow depot
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risk of circles that do things

keen onyx
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Its such a neat item too, but unless pool theres only one option to fix it. Full shields via transcendence or the new aspect

raven lichen
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tbf most runs dont get enough consistent healing to outpace bloom, apart from REX

keen onyx
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Because its a game of regen or massive health

fallow depot
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transcendence looks so neat i wish i could always have the little antennae

keen onyx
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Eh, fair i suppose.

raven lichen
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unless you loop a lot
then yea aha

dull ingot
fallow depot
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but am not a big shield fan

keen onyx
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God i love the design of lunars in general

raven lichen
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helfire is very powerful

fallow depot
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i love spinel tonic and otherwise i dont use lunars that often. unless with friends

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i open lunar pods, i dont buy much from newt

keen onyx
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Hellfire is a straight up amazing item, but its got its issues sometimes. It feels like a bit too powerful a lunar

fallow depot
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helfire is too good to be real

keen onyx
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I'd say that rachis and gouge are like the perfect bal of risk/reward

fallow depot
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rachis is peak example of a lunar

raven lichen
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yea its downsides are borderline negligible and its so much damage...
plus RAP or planula nullify it, and razorwire just breaks the game

keen onyx
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Also shield gens suck??? Why doesn't it stack based off of total health, instead of actual health

raven lichen
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also i dont like gouge, seems like almost always just bad

fallow depot
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gouge funny when bad luck shrine, could make grinding on stage 4 easier too

raven lichen
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usually gouge is like
you dont need the cash, or if you do the enemies spawned are way too big and risky. esp since gold scaling breaks on like s3 or s4

keen onyx
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Shield gens give their % based off of health. Not total health, actual health, the green(or red) stuff. So it completely fails to work with trancendence at all

raven lichen
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in multiplayer its just a throw, since the enemy hp scales with player count too

raven lichen
fallow depot
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but its really funny seeing “you have summoned (boss) to fight”

keen onyx
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Oh gouge is good early, and lategame its moreso "everything dies, what can we spawn that won't die instantly."

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1001 scavs have come to play

fallow depot
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it also... has a nice model. like, looking at the lunars on display, gouge is beautiful

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i am making the silliest defenses because it is a silly item

raven lichen
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i feel like an item that is either unnecessary or actively dangerous is like
sus haha
like gouge kinda has no upside most of the time

fallow depot
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true probably

keen onyx
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They all kinda do tbh. I just wish more of them were viable in more situations. I mean fr when are you going to see trancendence and want it for the most part?

raven lichen
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its fun late game but idk
i feel like it could be better

fallow depot
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when u have no heal ig

raven lichen
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also trance is great on tank builds cause big health up, and lets you toss healing for damage. plus no fall damage i guess

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its a lot of hp and stacks basically for free so

fallow depot
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what if gouge gave you an item when you defeated all the enemies it spawned? too op, maybe...
hard to make good without too good

raven lichen
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yea then it would kinda be win more

fallow depot
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the downside isnt much so the upside being more good would be op

keen onyx
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Gouge kinda already wins tbh, its meant to be on one person in mp and boosts gold via spawns if needed

raven lichen
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i think they already made the enemies less weak, but part of the problem is that combat shrines in general are a sus concept rn so an item that makes every shrine combat is weird

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like in MP the enemies are so absolutely massiv ethey jsut arent worth the time to kill

keen onyx
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Combat shrine is stonks

raven lichen
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and in solo its only relevant on s2 or s3, then you dont need the money

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and even then, you dont really save time since you need to kill giant enemies that might just one shot you, which is sus aha

I think recently they toned it down so perhaps its less bad

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but idk aha, just seems like its unnecessary. brittle crown handles income a bit better but only works on good proc rate chars

fallow depot
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brittle crown rex am i right

keen onyx
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So, time to shake things up. What's an item a lot of people consider bad or not worth much, but you swear by?

fallow depot
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crowbar, apparently

raven lichen
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who considers crowbar weak aha
it is solid

keen onyx
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I have stood by ap rounds since i first started playing.

fallow depot
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i heard so many people saying crowbar was meh

raven lichen
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i dont think any items are really bad rn tbh

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i guess lepton kinda sucks still.

limpid drum
fallow depot
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and squid doesnt?

fluid notch
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lily

raven lichen
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ambient scaling made its already big dps bigger, so it has more time to be relevant

limpid drum
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there you have it

fluid notch
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I worship lilies

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not specifically lepton lily

fallow depot
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good defense on the item

keen onyx
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Squid and daisy are still weak, but both of them were buffed i think. And frankly i like daisy, even if its inconsistent

keen onyx
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Ik its a lily, they need to rename it.

fallow depot
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me too, ive always liked the tphealingnova

limpid drum
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I scrap squids but keep lilies

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unless I find something better

raven lichen
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squid is much more usable now but i feel like lepton still suffers from the same issues. its fair healing but completely out of your control, so its random if it even does anything at all, and on top of that doesnt do anything for the majority of the time you play

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its good for void
and thats kinda it i guess

limpid drum
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moonman

fallow depot
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i hate squid but i might unlock it since i am always low on green scrap

limpid drum
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moon man’s moon*

fluid notch
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polyp is pog

keen onyx
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I still prefer it over squid because immobile, weak allies that get spammed everywhere and do like nothing but distract... if i wanted distractions, the twins scale better

limpid drum
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Make lepton drop a healing nova on level up 😳

raven lichen
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squid has like 20 base damage or something crazy and fires >1 shot/sec base

fallow depot
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empathy cores <3

raven lichen
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squid really do be dealing like a lot of damage over its lifespan. biggest issue is getting hit making it die too fast but since it deals so much more up front now its kind anice ambient dps

fallow depot
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everyone asks is squid good but no one asks why is squid an item

raven lichen
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its better then fireworks now probably?
unless there are no enemies in LoS cause homing

limpid drum
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but usually it gets to put in some work

keen onyx
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Eh, fireworks at least let you know if you accidentally opened something you didn't see

raven lichen
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how do you open something you dont see aha
do you run around holding E?

fallow depot
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fire works. thats a statement

limpid drum
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I think he means enemies

keen onyx
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points at role

Sprint and hold 2 buttons. Blink, ballista at the poor boss, rinse, repeat.

limpid drum
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which squid can also help with but it can’t hit stuff across the map
but no one needs to hit things across the map anyways

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Still want ways to make those items with specific conditions work on both final bosses/run end situations

keen onyx
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Imagine if warbanner was buffed. Its already a really nice item to stack across a team, but give it a few more numbers? Nice

limpid drum
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Mithrix at least has the rest of the moon and a phase 2 for my boy warbanner

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Scav has nothin

fallow depot
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imagine a lunar item warbanner that buffs you but enables friendly fire / chaos in that zone

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just a passing thought anyways i think a neat buff would be if it weakened enemies by an extremely small amount

limpid drum
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lunar warbanner = rachis baybeeee

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Stack both 👍

fallow depot
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mercurial banner

limpid drum
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My favorite item

keen onyx
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Hot idea

fallow depot
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opinions on medkit? mine is that its epic

raven lichen
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medkit is absolutely crazy early game. less good late game, but its so strong early it almost wins runs from s1 by letting you scale so much more easily

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20 flat healing is a pretty big % of most survivors at low levels, and early on enemy density is low enough you almost always get the heal off

fallow depot
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ever since 1.0 medkit has been a very nice item imo, one of the best whites

raven lichen
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yea its really nice now

keen onyx
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The +5% is huge as well. Meaning it STACKS, it can carry you as far as mithrix if you get shafted and only get a few medkits purely because even 3 of them is 15% of your health plus a small bonus

limpid drum
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there’s like very few bad whites now

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all solid except for UGLY ASS MEAT MonsoonSaiyan hate it

keen onyx
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Meat is still better than it was tbh

limpid drum
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but it remains ugly

fallow depot
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i never thought of meat as good and still dont

keen onyx
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True, but hey. At least now it has an undeniably useful effect when stacked instead of idk... literally any other healing item being better in every way?

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Oh it still kinda stinky, but now its not an immediate scrap

limpid drum
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I scrap it because it’s ugly

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except on acrid S++++ tier

fallow depot
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i would make meat unrelated to health

keen onyx
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Pre 1.0 even if it was my only healing item, i scrapped it because literally any other white would be more impactful to the run. Thats incredibly sad, but true

fallow depot
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acrid meat s+++ tier yeah

keen onyx
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Yeah other than acrid, but like even then i was tempted

fallow depot
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we have like 4 other white healing items + topaz, why do we need another health related whitem?

limpid drum
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Hey I like max HP just not meat’s version 😎

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shield gen gaming 👍
Infusion gaming 👍 would like a few more max HP items

fallow depot
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make it like monster tooth but like increase your attack speed when you pick up chubks of meat idk

keen onyx
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Idk man, and healing is a very broad term tbh. Topaz and meat aren't healing, shield isn't healing

limpid drum
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and also yes we need more items that use healing offensively

fallow depot
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slug, medkit, tooth, b-bungus

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4

keen onyx
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Reminder that pre 1.0 meat was literally worse slug in every way

fallow depot
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slug is my fren

limpid drum
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after playing paladin I’m really hyped for items that boost your offensive power based on your healing/defensive capabilities

fallow depot
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make meat like give you a crit buff on heal or something, i dunno.

keen onyx
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If they did that, it could easily be a green

fallow depot
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yeah was just about to say kinda sounds like a green then....

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make meat good

dull ingot
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literally just posted seconds ago

onyx lava
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the fact that bandit + bandolier is not an infinite smokebomb glitch like the first game is a severe dissapointment

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i need a mod that adds that back in, speedrunning was so fun with that - you could just choose your movement speed

tulip nimbus
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The devs on their way to implement a game-breaking glitch on purpose

fallow depot
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to be fair they implemented loader

pine prairie
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Funny looking dog wipes several species from existence with extreme prejudice

dull ingot
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sounds like a news article, tbh

tired juniper
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i still immediately scrap meat

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i've never thought increasing max health as useful

dull ingot
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Give the meat to the poor.

final shadow
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Maybe it'd be useful in an environment where you don't get killed in a fraction of a second

slow condor
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aka first half of the first loop

orchid jewel
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What's REX good at?

slender sigil
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winning

high torrent
#

at everything?

tired axle
#

rex is pretty strong

#

he has great damage and healing

final shadow
#

Still near the bottom of the #poll for some reason

tired axle
#

a lot of people don't think he's fun to play

orchid jewel
#

Do you like using seed barrage or drill?

tired axle
#

barrage most of the time

high torrent
#

a lot of people can't even unlock him

orchid jewel
#

oh i just used mul-t for that

whole lotus
#

Way too fucking chunky

summer terrace
#

he's my favorite

#

arti is my least favorite in vanilla

#

tied with engi probably

tawny plaza
#

No no, he has a point

final shadow
#

I hope they give Arti a good selection of alt skills in the DLCs

high torrent
#

the only thing that should really bother anyone

#

is chef

modern ether
#

ive never seen one of these bad boys outside of stage 4/5

keen onyx
#

They are rare, but do exist. I think outside of mods and confirmed stages, i have seen... 5 total? The director really has to go into debt for them

uncut hatch
#

they are considered a "rare" spawn and therefore use a completely different set of credits to spawn than normal chests

#

instead they share a pool with golden shrines, cloaked chests, and lunar pods

#

they also are blocked from spawning before stage 4

keen onyx
#

Thats quite interesting. Thanks for sharing!

spiral gorge
#

How hard is it to go on a monsoon god run?

modern ether
#

depends on the survivor i guess, but mostly skill and adapting to the items the game offers
i mainly find that if im efficient with gathering items and dont do dumb things like take my hands off the keyboard when there are 3 elite brass contraptions nearby, im generally fine for getting a god run

spiral gorge
#

I know what I'm doing this weekend

full gale
#

It can be really hard because one tiny mistake often leads to death
Survivor choice makes it easier or harder obviously

spiral gorge
#

I'm very hard headed and I wont give up

full gale
#

For the first 10ish stages you need to be hyper focused and take the best possible items
Find a balance between rushing and looting because of you full clear and have bad items you won't go far
If you can full clear in 5-6 minutes that's great

modern ether
#

yeah from about stage 5 onwards there are so many enemies which will oneshot you, so its best to focus on dodging their attacks over everything else, as dying guarantees a run to end while taking too long still has a slight chance to survive lol

full gale
#

You need to somehow multitask dodging and shooting perfectly

#

Be aware of your enemies' spawns, where they move, who's about to attack, who's close, who's far, who's a major threat, who you can take a hit from and be fine, who to prioritize

keen onyx
#

Its usually best to practice god runs on characters that allow for you to focus more on one thing, and learn it. Then incorporate the other skillset.

I like to reccomend huntress for people who want to practice things like reactionary dodging and general map awareness since she doesn't require aim, and can take care of groups with a button. So you can blink around the map, learn where things are generally and focus on surviving. The graduate to someone else you feel comfortable with and do the same thing, but now with more focus on amining and the like on top of everything else

#

However, if you want to skip the whole easing in thing, 100% pick the character you intend to god run consistently with

spiral gorge
#

Well I'm doing a monsoon run right now trying to unlock captains skin

keen onyx
#

There is no point practicing with commando for instance if you plan to do merc, or acrid.

#

For captain? Double hacking, Don't take diablo strike. Hack groups of chests or chance shrines when you can. He's built to loot goblin, so loot goblin(assuming singleplayer)

full gale
#

Practicing on huntress is a really good tip, however make sure to unlock triple blink beforehand

keen onyx
#

Focus your strikes on groups or large enemies, spam shotgun at large bosses and stuff, but focus for longer ranges

full gale
#

Triple blink is the skill that truly allows you to train your reflexes and dodging skills

keen onyx
#

Yeah unfortunately huntress, while amazing for so many reasons for both training and general play, relies HEAVILY on her unlocks. To the point of her base skills being nearly irrelevant in most situations over the unlocks

#

With someone like captain? Just unlock hacking beacons and he's set. For acrid? Is base kit is the best so unlocks don't matter. Mercs unlocks are all kinda good in different ways.

#

Its different for each survivor how easy to jump in they are, and how they should be set up

spiral gorge
#

I cant do mercs ethereal challenge

keen onyx
#

And the most important thing, play who you want. If someone says you shouldn't be x character, consider it? But chose who you like.

full gale
#

I found that blight is a lot better than poison for me so there's that
At the end of the day it'll always be a matter of preference over sheer power

full gale
keen onyx
#

Oh ethereal is a meme, most people just cheat it in via text editing, mods, or other methods. Its possible, but so difficult and so rng focused that its overall not even considered cheating by most of the community

full gale
#

Best tip is to check #prismatic-trials, watch Cabbage's videos on youtube, try to replicate what he does or get lucky with easy artifacts

merry karma
#

the skill is worth it though

full gale
#

Slicing winds?

modern ether
#

slicing winds goated

keen onyx
#

Oh the skill is good, its just not worth the effort needed for the most part

#

Oh fun. And console is broken af right now if i remember correctly

spiral gorge
#

The update comes out June and there are multiple bugs

#

So I cant have a good run most the time

keen onyx
#

Unfortunately all skill goes out the window when theres game breaking bugs

spiral gorge
#

Rusted key is broken

full gale
#

Yeah uhhhhh ethereal on console is kinda uhhhh major bullshit

keen onyx
#

A while ago on pc, artifacts broke and deleted the teleporter, you couldn't leave stage one. No amount of skill will change that, that kinda thing

full gale
#

If the trial has command then go for it and get Topaz_Brooch

keen onyx
#

Oh I'm aware, i put 60 hours on switch before i moved to pc

full gale
#

Losing barrier won't lose you the challenge

keen onyx
#

That or glass

#

If its a glass trial, then you basically win or die, theres no need to manually reset

full gale
#

Lmao

keen onyx
#

Swarms/glass/death trial is what finally broke me though.

#

Frankly I'd had enough of its crap

full gale
#

I got lucky with a command one

#

I was 1 barrier away from losing

keen onyx
#

Oh I'd been trying off and on for months, crap rng every time and i finally just unlocked everything at once with an editor. I'd already unlocked everything reasonable that i cared about

#

Iirc the devs even sort of apologized for the ethereal challenge

full gale
#

I vaguely remember something like that

keen onyx
#

Tbf if I'd miscalculated the pain it was that hard, I'd apologize too. Probably didn't seem so bad in testing

#

I wonder if the new dlc final boss they have planned will be a better fight than mithrix? Or at least have a better stage. Both mithrix stages were kind of... meh. For different reasons

full gale
#

Have you tried mithrix with Swarms

hasty pebble
#

Mithrix with swarms and chaos

#

They will literally fight each other

full gale
#

And you

hasty pebble
#

They aggro on each other

full gale
#

Yes but they will eventually do the pizza attack

hasty pebble
#

True

bitter shoal
#

i love mithrix personally

#

i don’t really have any problems with him

quiet swan
#

game is just asking for trouble

merry karma
#

do it

full gale
#

Overloading worm inbound

quiet swan
#

oh im doing it

#

3rd target spotted

full gale
#

LET'S GO

quiet swan
#

yea, died to overloading. one second 100% health, next second 0%

#

had a god run going too

#

F in the chat for my stupidity

full gale
#

Oh wait you were ENGINEER

#

Rip

bitter shoal
#

lmao

quiet swan
#

yea. if i only had bandolier, then i may have been able to pull out of it

full gale
#

If you had eccentric vase you could have let your turrets handle it

quiet swan
#

i had gnarled

#

it was either that or blast shower

desert atlas
#

what the fuck is that resolution

quiet swan
#

its a cut screenshot... i have a normal resolution

desert atlas
#

oh

full gale
#

Massive F

quiet swan
#

first stage be smiling this time

desert atlas
#

holy shit that's a good stage one

quiet swan
#

watch me die next stage

swift badge
#

That's the most godlike stage one I've ever seen

desert atlas
#

I once got wake of vultures and zetaspects fire aspect stage one once

quiet swan
#

F for wake

desert atlas
#

in my opinion wake isn't bad

#

especially with zetaspects, where it stacks 20 +10 seconds a stack

quiet swan
#

i dont play modded, so i assume zetaspects is a mod

desert atlas
#

yeah it is

#

also, why not play modded?

quiet swan
#

mostly i just havent gotten around to it

desert atlas
#

oh

#

it's pretty easy with r2modman

quiet swan
#

i probably should, cus of how much i like the game, but i really want to get the last 2 achievements (bandit alt special and captain alt utility) before i go modded

desert atlas
#

fair enough

#

bandit alt special is definitely the easier one

polar anvil
#

Don't take hooks of heresy when going for smushed

quiet swan
#

i figured. i would probably ask for help, maybe an artificer just cheesing with freezing though while i wait for the threshold, or does executing not grant the achievements

desert atlas
#

idk

#

I doubt anyone has really tested that

quiet swan
#

ive been so busy in discord i havent even started stage 2 yet xD

desert atlas
#

wow

#

also, why play engi if you wanted those achievements?

quiet swan
#

cus im just playing casually right now

#

i'll go for them if i can get a friend to help me to see if that execute would work

#

i assume also dont go for aurelionite, cus he just does so much damage to mithrix

desert atlas
#

yeah

rustic sail
#

How do I get the weeb

desert atlas
#

stage 8, go through the celestial portal, then obliterate

quiet swan
#

i can always hold off on getting those. i want to stay vanilla at least until the DLC drops too, thats part of it

desert atlas
#

preferably on monsoon so you get a skin as well

quiet swan
#

well, if you dont have mercenary unlocked, i assume youre not experienced enough for monsoon

desert atlas
#

yeah probably not

quiet swan
#

these 3 items in a row on stage 3... im doing pretty damn good i think

bitter shoal
#

i still hate bungus

quiet swan
#

then you would hate someone i know who has it as a pfp

idle copper
#

bungus was made cool with 1.1

quiet swan
#

and now grovetender just gave me disciple

idle copper
#

hell yeah

north totem
#

pog

quiet swan
#

rarest boss item in the game

north totem
#

loader mains turning off their brain to become monkey

quiet swan
#

playing as engi atm

#

i have the ultimate "i dont need to do anything except jump around in circles" setup so far

dry dirge
#

hehehehehhe

vague comet
#

I didn't know a multi-shop terminal could have all three slots be the same item

quiet swan
#

"options"

trail token
dull ingot
latent flame
#

what happens when you stack defiant goige

dull ingot
latent flame
#

no :p

#

i just play the game

latent flame
dull ingot
# latent flame i dont

So the short story is the director gets credits to spawn stuff in. When you activate a gouge, you're giving the director a small amount of credits to spawn in some powerful monsters. By stacking gouges, you increase the amount of credits you give the director and thus you get more powerful monsters to fight

dull ingot
#

Ye

silk hearth
#

gouge is all fun and games until you reach sky meadow and hit a chance shrine and 50 blazing parents teleport on you

latent flame
#

pfff

gritty hollow
#

Man, the way I'm trying to beat the game is hard, you have to get lucky in the beginning in order to even pass stage one

dull ingot
floral gull
marble mauve
#

"It will be a short run."

dull ingot
slender sigil
#

mans really shitting on brooch

whole lotus
lunar crystal
#

but it ain't shit either

slender sigil
#

but a few stacks of brooches gives you insane barrier

lunar crystal
#

it's all relative to your health

high torrent
#

on stages 1-3 yes

icy grove
#

how can you heal 1000 hp as rex?

high torrent
#

with a foreign fruit

#

a couple of rejuv racks

dull ingot
high torrent
#

infusions, bison stakes

whole lotus
# high torrent on stages 1-3 yes

Yeah at the beginning of the game it's really nice but falls off harder than a lot of other items in the game due to funny barrier decay

#

I mean it's not backup mag tiers of asinine but it's kinda eh

#

It's good on hunternesshappiesttroll

#

And lodr

icy grove
#

how much does fruit heal for?

whole lotus
#

50% max HP IIRC

slender sigil
#

yes

floral gull
#

Is there a mod that lets you change how many items enemies get with artifact of evolution? I wanted to increase it

dull ingot
#

Just like silica gel.

timber pivot
tired axle
#

he needed those extra 30%

stable junco
#

Didn't think I'm going to kill Mithrix with this load out.

high torrent
#

perma uptime strike drone

stable junco
#

And empathy cores.

hybrid vault
#

empathy cores don't get buffed from strike drones

stable junco
#

I didn't know they were That strong.

hybrid vault
#

empathy cores are nice

cyan stag
#

just make sure u sprint during mithrix's spinny phase, maybe the 2 rose bucklers can help u tank the hit if u still get damaged

tacit quail
#

Gamers

cyan stag
#

no no gamers allowed

#

gamers are an oppressive group

tacit quail
#

I see

stable junco
tacit quail
#

No one plays rex :(

stable junco
#

My drones out do my damage.

tacit quail
#

Lmao

gritty hollow
modern ether
#

pogchamp rng right here
dios + overloading mithrix (didnt even know that was a thing with honor but alas)
ima be here a while

full gale
#

All artifacts?

quiet swan
#

they just added this, along with Aurelionite to be allowed to be an elite with the uodate i believe. maybe AWU too

merry karma
#

ramp though 😔

hasty mauve
#

aurelionite elite? nice

modern ether
full gale
#

Neat

modern ether
#

im glad i picked up dios because i got hit by revolving doors and died, i then got hit after and had 1 hp somehow lmao i got so lucky

#

has anyone ever seen a malachite mithrix? is it even possible for him to get the T2 elites?

full gale
#

If he can be elite at all then it's probably possible

hasty pebble
#

loop: yea or nay

merry karma
#

nay

full gale
#

It's always a yea

#

It's a regular monsoon so just keep it going

fallow depot
#

ceremonial dagger tells me keep going tbh

hasty pebble
#

k

fallow depot
#

dissonance kin swarms never again

full gale
#

Oof

hasty pebble
#

f

icy phoenix
#

That’s an ominous line of boys

full gale
#

What about honor, spite and soul

#

In top of those

icy phoenix
#

What about

Maao without command

merry karma
#

what about

swo huntress

full gale
#

What about monsoon++ DLX

modern ether
#

what about giving every enemy 5 dios

full gale
#

All they need

spark pawn
edgy siren
#

i finally got the piercing wind and alternate color scheme for huntress

#

jesus christ it was hard

#

but it was worth it

gritty hollow
#

I had to beat the game by myself to get loaders skin because my WiFi was ass, still did it though, for some reason the melee characters are my go to

verbal sage
#

wuts timeline on expansion?

fallow depot
#

for now i'd say there are plenty of fun challenges, artifacts, and mods to spice up the game

verbal sage
#

cool

warped pine
#

It's called one shot protection

#

Oh wait the message above that one sry

slender sigil
#

oneshot protection gets you to 10% of your max hp, not 1hp, so he was legitimately lucky

night condor
slender sigil
#

ok?

night condor
#

Talkin bout the dios

dense pumice
#

The dream 😮

tall oracle
#

Please tell me turrets get the burn effect on their attacks with that

dense pumice
#

Yep

#

That was one of the changes in the anniversary update

#

Something like "Turrets now gain your equipment, but can't activate it"

#

So Gesture doesn't work, only passive equipments like the elite aspects and fuel array

tall oracle
#

Hhhhhhhhh yes

tired axle
#

woodsprite also doesn't work sadly

reef pollen
#

Fungus engineer too op

merry karma
#

fuel array op

tall oracle
#

Flaming bungus

reef pollen
gritty hollow
dense pumice
gritty hollow
#

Sorry if I pinged

gritty hollow
dense pumice
#

That's not how probability works 😛

gritty hollow
#

Damn it

#

But with how many types there are im bound to at least get one right?

dense pumice
#

Killing 4000 elites only gives you a 63.22% chance to get at least one aspect. Killing 4000 of each elite would be 20000 which does give a 99.33% for at least one (Unless you want to count perfected as well? in that case it's 24000 and 99.75%)

merry karma
#

how did you get that

tired axle
dense pumice
#

^

#

1- (3999/4000)^x with X being number of elites killed

merry karma
#

meth

tired axle
#

just 100% - ( chance to not get an aspect ^ enemies killed)

karmic cypress
#

elder lemurians are my favorite enemies

full gale
wind shell
wind shell
tired axle
#

nice

full gale
tired axle
#

finally

full gale
#

Did that guy leave/get banned or something

tired axle
#

damn

full gale
#

🧐

tired axle
#

i've always been withor

full gale
#

🧐 🧐

tired axle
#

yes, and i won by a landslide

#

same thing

full gale
#

A landslide can also be not steep

tired axle
#

i destroyed many nations

full gale
#

Truester

tired axle
#

what even

#

monke

edgy siren
#

holy shit, it got a overcharged (is that what it's called) aspect

#

aren't those super uber rare?

tired axle
#

1/4000 from an overloading enemy

#

and they are one of the best aspects, +50% total damage on all attacks with a proc coeff

wet atlas
#

is there a bug right now where equipment keeps getting used even after you get rid of it?

#

i bought an equipment drone but it keeps doing the drone summons every 35ish seconds (i assume on cooldown)

#

the other day i also had a radar i sold that kept pinging

icy phoenix
#

Equipment drones use the equipments you give them

wet atlas
#

OH

#

🤦

tired axle
#

they also get an 80% reduced cooldown on it

opal sentinel
#

Would Visions of Heresy on Engi's moving turrets increase their range?

tired axle
#

no, but it massively increases their dps

#

same for stationary turrets

#

and engi's m1

hybrid vault
#

visions is a straight upgrade on engi

opal sentinel
#

oh interesting, I thought it might work lol

hybrid vault
#

I think

opal sentinel
#

i havent tried it yet lol

hybrid vault
#

okay I just checked, and yeah visions is a straight upgrade on engi

#

better dps and better procs per second on both engi and his turrets

opal sentinel
#

dam

cosmic maple
#

another Potmobile main smh

dull ingot
#

👀

cosmic maple
#

Is bandit's rifle better than the shotgun in basically any circumstance?

tired axle
hybrid vault
#

shotgun is usually better than rifle, but both are viable

#

I'm pretty sure rifle is better on higher eclipse levels?

inner spade
#

rifle has 1.0 proc and shotgun has .5x5 proc

tired axle
#

yeah, i'm talking about total damage procs

#

i should probably write a copypasta for this, ugh

#

so, let's say ya have an atg, that has a 10% chance of proccing and deals 300% total damage. on rifle this would +990% base every 10 shots meaning 990% / 10 = +99% base damage per shot on average. for shotgun the proc chance would be lowered to 5%, resulting in +300% damage every 20 hits. since one shot consists of 5 hits, this would be 300% / (20 / 5) = +75% base damage per shot on average.
so shotgun gets less damage per atg then rifle due to its lowered proc coef even though it has more damage by itself.

#

the easier way to do the math for this would just be dps * proc coeff * 0.3 * amount of atgs = average damage from atgs

#

though for my example i used damage per shot, instead of damage per second

merry karma
#

true

inner spade
#

i see :o this i guess this makes sense if ur going for atg's / bands

#

seems like all the best items still work off of base damage though

heady sentinel
#

turns out i cannot upload or paste images form the game

tired axle
#

you can after you get a role

dull ingot
vapid hare
#

is the update on nintendo switch yet

final shadow
#

Not yet, it'll be some time in June

hybrid vine
#

isnt visions only better on ranged

round sierra
#

any tips for a getting acrid run (who to play, what build, ect.)

cloud beacon
#

@wicked pelican hop on a lobby bro

lapis cosmos
round sierra
#

yes

lapis cosmos
#

Razor wire

round sierra
#

who should i paly

lapis cosmos
#

Honestly doesn’t matter

#

Get hellfire tincture and razor wire

#

Go to void fields as fast as possible

#

Use artifact of command

#

Get a bunch of good early game stuff. Razorwire, bleed, other on-hits

round sierra
#

thanks

hybrid vine
#

if you dont want command just focus on getting lunar portal stage 1 and then go there as fast as possible

#

requirement is like a cautious slug or something that heals

#

i fyou get lucky and get woodsprite that will be enough

round sierra
#

it worked

#

but what about killing mithrax (i don't have rex or captain)

icy phoenix
#

For killing Mithrix you can just play drizzle and go on a 15 stage run or so and you should be able to destroy I’m after that

quiet cobalt
dapper harness
#

discussions regarding video games the second

rose lagoon
#

indeed

hard sierra
#

anybody wanna play with me as a duo

#

im in duo vc 12 if you do

#

im trying to unlock more people

zealous grove
#

no

high torrent
hard sierra
#

oh ok sry

dull ingot
gritty hollow
#

I am now going to try and get a elemental ball thing

lapis cosmos
#

Best way to get one of those would be Honor + Swarms and additionally Command and/or Sacrifice to be op

gritty hollow
#

I only have two of those

lapis cosmos
#

do you care about getting them legitimately

gritty hollow
#

Meh, not really, I turned on the elite one and then the command one, sacrifice I did as well but I don't know what's that last one up thereSwarms

lapis cosmos
#

swarms, double spawn rates but each enemy has half hp

#

honor makes all enemies elite so they all can drop elite aspects

#

but they dont give extra money like elites usually do

tired axle
full gale
#

Purity

dull ingot
whole lotus
#

@nocturne patio imagining

nocturne patio
#

ew

full gale
#

Gd2 DrizzleLove

silver dragon
#

cringe

dapper harness
#

how will gd2 ever recover

astral wharf
#

Gd2 🤮

silver dragon
astral wharf
#

Who the hell is ligma

silver dragon
#

Steve balls

full gale
#

Gd2 is a sacred place, get out

dull ingot
silver dragon
full gale
#

Nah the gd1 members are the disappointment of the family

umbral tundra
#

General gang

full gale
#

Nah that's where the political people hang out

#

Miss me with that political bullshit

keen onyx
#

Gd2 is usually the most reasonable place to actually chat about this stuff

fluid notch
#

True

dull ingot
full gale
dull ingot
full gale
#

The newer you are the better tbh

dull ingot
#

😿 you make me make big cry

dull ingot
# gritty hollow Meh, not really, I turned on the elite one and then the command one, sacrifice I...

for the first level, turn all your whites and greens into items that you don't want, but will help you (slugs, bungus, focus crystals.. it doesn't really matter, just don't pick up items you actually want to keep)

then get to the bazaar after teleporter even and scrap everything into as many legendaries as possible and turn them all into Clover (they increase the change of getting the "elemental ball thing"s). After stage 1 and you're done in the bazaar, go back to regular gameplay and invest in as many guillotines, crowbars, proccing items, and AoE items

#

wait I replied to the wrong one

#

doesn't matter too much, though

onyx hearth
#

Getting an aspect?

#

The easiest way is to get r2modman, download ZetAspects and set the chance to 100.

#

Instant win happiesttroll

tacit pelican
#

UES safe travel sticks got me fucked up. What are they actually there for, where does the D.I.A.B.L.O. Strike come from?

pastel garden
#

Some kind of a relay for comms/planetary surface survey, I presume

onyx hearth
#

Maybe it’s really big and those are the habs

dull ingot
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i hope i didnt write complete gibberish

onyx hearth
dull ingot
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"Any armaments?" if i got it correct

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so that means that captain modified the ship himself

onyx hearth
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I think the skill descriptions of the Captain say: call down a kinetic strike from the UES Safe Travels

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Oh I see what you mean

dull ingot
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Those things on doctor's screenshot looks like cargo hubs or whatever

onyx hearth
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So you’re saying captain added some massive guns on his ship?

dull ingot
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Yes, he was given a (lets call it roughly) civilian ship and for the mission he has upgraded it

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so what do you think?

onyx hearth
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Yeah he probably did that

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What are the sticks though? Storage, Habs or weapons?

dull ingot
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got a random yt video with first ror intro

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so i think that those are hubs for cargo things

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maybe those sticks could be used as hubs for those little ships that landed on the planet

onyx hearth
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Oh yeah there are a lot of little ships

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I also have no idea the scale of the UES Safe Travles.

tacit pelican
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I see

dull ingot
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Me neither, lets count it as enough :)

warped pine
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I mean it seems pretty tiny

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Looks like it's maybe only got 1 cargo hold and a main area

subtle blade
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which items/loadouts are the best for mul-t

umbral tundra
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dunno

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ask in gd1

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they know everything lol

dull ingot
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get attack speed, bleed

go for power mode nailgun

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ukulele and atg is always nice

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get crits, scythe and if you get imp overlords boss item that turns crits into bleed you can pause the game and host an expensive party because your run is officially a god run

merry karma
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if you're good you can run double saw power mode

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for retool rebar/saw is always a solid option

dull ingot
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*retools to saw with religious intent

full gale
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These

dull ingot
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tf is monster tooth doing in there

full gale
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Idk tbh

#

Good healing on-kill

dull ingot
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also if you use mul-t m2 outside of first 2 stages u aint straight

full gale
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Mul-t is usually close enough

dull ingot
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(the statement above is ironic, i am not gatekeeping how you should play the game. my point is however that mul-t's m2 isn't nearly as powerful as his other attacks)

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(and it will tickle every enemy past stage 3, not joking)

full gale
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The stun is still nice

dull ingot
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talking about stuns why didnt you include stun grenade

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how else is he supposed to stun lock elder lemurians

full gale
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With m2

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And backup mags

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Duh

merry karma
#

you can stun lock with saw and like 2 or 3 stun grenades happiesttroll quite balanced

dull ingot
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I hope you're not suggesting that m2 does a better job at proccing stun than a commando-esque m1

full gale
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No

opal sentinel
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why is it that some of my run history just randomly disappears

calm patio
#

eclipse 5 cleared baby (i know it's actually pretty easy untill eclipse 8, but still)

calm patio
opal sentinel
#

😔

edgy siren
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been getting back into ror2 again and oh boy
i feel like im getting better at the game

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practice with the command artifact might have helped

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also, why can't i share images anymore?

slender sigil
#

need a role

edgy siren
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just got a huntress role

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there we go

hybrid vine
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eclipse fucks with run history for some reason

fluid notch
edgy siren
# fluid notch bad

aren't you the same person that said something similar when i said i liked huntress a few months ago?

summer terrace
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probably

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huntress bad is like 50% of their vocabuulary

fluid notch
#

possibly

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I have zero memory of you

summer terrace
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the other half is part lepton lily and the other part based cringe crowdfunder woolie

edgy siren
fluid notch
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possibly

warm bridge
merry karma
reef pollen
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So nailgun mul-t with brilliant behemoth is super sick, what is good to pair with that?

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I usually play with artifact of command on

full gale
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Probably some attack speed so get LensMakers_Glasses Soldiers_Syringe Predatory_Instincts Harvesters_Scythe TriTip_Dagger AtG_Missile Ukulele

reef pollen
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RyozoHmm attack speed you say

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And crit

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I was grabbing leech seeds and tri tips last

full gale
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Yeah the more attack speed the more behemoth explosions

reef pollen
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True

full gale
reef pollen
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Big brain

full gale
#

Also atgs and ukulele will activate more often if you attack faster

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And it's always glorious to see that happen

reef pollen
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So basically on hit stuff. Okay

full gale
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Yeah

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If you want more aoe get Gasoline willowisp

reef pollen
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See i was grabbing gas and wisps and it didn't seem as great. So ill try attack speed

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And on hit/crit

full gale
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Yeah because gas and will o wisp are on-kill items

reef pollen
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That's true. I was trying to do the overlord challenge during too, so i was grabbing as many fuel cells as i could haha

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I got it though, so imma run saw / nailgun

full gale
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Nice

reef pollen
#

So this bandit character is coming to console soon?

#

What are they like

hybrid vault
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bandit is super busted

reef pollen
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I saw people saying that in here

hybrid vault
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his passive gives him guaranteed crits from behind

reef pollen
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Ohhh.

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So no need to build as much crit, just all dmg?

hybrid vault
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and he has really low cooldowns, to the point that his whole gimmick of resetting cooldowns with lights out is almost useless

reef pollen
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Lul

hybrid vault
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meaning that you basically always take the alternate special, desperado

reef pollen
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I don't want his skills spoiled too much. I'm hype to get him, what do you got to do to unlock him

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Really I'm just hyped for a new update

hybrid vault
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bandit uses the huntress unlock because huntress is now unlocked by default

reef pollen
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Ohhh sweet

hybrid vault
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if you have huntress, you won't need to unlock bandit

reef pollen
#

Sick, ez ez

full gale
reef pollen
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Yeah I'm hyped, is there a select date or no

full gale
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Nope.

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Which majorly sucks since we've bee waiting since O C T O B E R

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But hey what's a few more days gonna be, right?

reef pollen
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True. It's only a month it's got to happen somewhere in there

full gale
#

I fear it'll be the 25th

reef pollen
#

What's wrong with that. Just too far in into June?

full gale
#

Ye.

reef pollen
#

Understandable

full gale
#

It hurts, that's it

fluid notch
#

The 7th, 14th, 21st, & 28th are the best dates for it to be released

merry karma
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June 19th

summer terrace
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because

full gale
#

Because monday?
Oh.

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Ooohhhhh.....

hybrid vault
#

Content
Update
Monday

full gale
#

Yeah

warm salmon
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Hacking beacons are OP, should reduce 1/2

slender sigil
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hacking beacons are op and not op at the same time

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they fall off in usefulness very hard and can only be used twice per stage but in the early game they can be pretty insane

misty shore
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Early mid yea I hate playing with captains because they can get like 4+ items for free

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chance totems and chests next to eachother

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Nerf captain

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Hey, opinions are opinions. He can easily get mobility through the items. His primary is amazing for close and range, having a good proc and multiple projectiles, which makes bleed and leech seed optimal. He has a passive that deflects most of all the most dangerous attacks (Solus unit ground AoE, Jellyfish charged orb, Leumarian fire, Greater Wisps, Chimera's ball attack) and gets even stronger if you have some drones, or by the gods if you have a backup equipment? That passive is amazing.

hybrid vault
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no mobility? may I introduce you to diablo strike?

misty shore
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Oh yea, that too

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Highest damage nuke

hybrid vault
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captain is good, but hacking beacons have nothing to do with that

misty shore
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Which, many many bosses are quite slow moving

warm salmon
misty shore
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I think they are a huge part of the average captain's kit

merry karma
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could just run heal/shock double shock diablo

misty shore
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and I see it used a ton. Its very very strong, especially if you can get it on a chance or legendary chest

warm salmon
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I may be wrong but I dont think targeting a strike changes their pathing

hybrid vault
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I think one hacking is okay, but double hacking is redundant

misty shore
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double hacking?

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oh taking both options as hack

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How's that redundant?

warm salmon
hybrid vault
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double hacking barely saves any time

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assuming you're full clearing, which you should be doing anyways

misty shore
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Full clearing is hard when maintaining a safe per stage time

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Hacking can half the time on a stage, especially early

hybrid vault
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actually wait

misty shore
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That seems

hybrid vault
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@tired axle explain the hacking beacons thing

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she was the one who did the testing

misty shore
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Like a perfect world senario

tired axle
#

wha

misty shore
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Hello

tired axle
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oh right

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how the fuck did i even meth that one

misty shore
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We're debating about captain.

tired axle
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OH! I remember.

misty shore
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There, sorry.

hybrid vault
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it kind of is

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since you only have two supply beacons

misty shore
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Yea Diablo is strong but its fair for what it takes to get it.

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I have no problem with diablo, but I still think captain is op overall

tired axle
# hybrid vault

ok, so basically i used the credit income and the reward multiplier from the directors to determine how long it takes to buy a chest. then i assumed you would get 2 small chests / one big one worth of money per hacking beacon to determine how much time you save when using it.

misty shore
#

Yea

tired axle
#

which is like ~40s per beacon as ya can see

#

in game mobility would also be something to account for though

misty shore
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The beacons are very reliable too

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Yea but with those extra items mobility isn't too hard to accomplish

#

Isn't engie the same speed

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No mobility that is

tired axle
misty shore
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I suppose.

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True, but much of the game is luck

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and being that much faster (stage time wise), stronger and capable of getting these things quicker while ignoring most of all projectiles

hybrid vault
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luck isn't a problem in ror2
because bad luck doesn't exist
because there are no bad items anymore

misty shore
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chrono?

hybrid vault
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chronobauble is good against mithrix

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and it helps proc death mark

misty shore
#

Yea chronobauble is only bad in memes

#

I think its just fine

hybrid vault
#

chronobauble is decent

misty shore
#

The more time it takes for a melee enemy to get to you is more time to survive

warm salmon
#

Someone mentioned full clearing stages, is that a thing i should be doing? I kinda zip to tele fighting on the way in places that benifit my build while picking up chests/loot then dip.

hybrid vault
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full clearing is statistically better than tp rushing

warm salmon
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hmmmm imma give it a good try

hybrid vault
#

7 minutes represents full clearing

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but you don't need to always adhere to 7 minutes

warm salmon
#

thx bud

reef pollen
#

Damn this is new info

#

I thought 5 mins was slow and wasting time

dull ingot
rare heart
misty shore
#

Oh wow look at you

rare heart
#

UNEMPLOYMENT BABY WHOOOO

modern ether
warm salmon
#

Is there logic behind lunar coins not being auto-pickedup

slender sigil
#

i mean i guess they're classed as lunars, they have blue text and such and all lunars need to be interacted with to be picked up

#

but for as an actual reason why you wouldnt want it to auto pickup i cant think of one

warm bridge
# hybrid vault

Did you make this chart? How was it created? It’s fantastic

warm salmon
hybrid vault
edgy siren
#

im happy, and im satisfied

elfin wigeon
#

144p

hybrid vault
edgy siren
#

i have to play this so my laptop can handle it

#

i'm basically playing it as if it's the prototype version

full gale
#

Felt that

karmic cypress
desert atlas
#

haha yes I'll never die

karmic cypress
#

why it all the way up there tho

desert atlas
#

also, how do I enable discord overlay?

karmic cypress
#

discord settings

desert atlas
#

ok

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where do I find discord overlay

karmic cypress
dapper harness
#

i am currently posting off topic

low laurel
#

is it weird that i think that every character is really good?

hasty mauve
#

no youre absolutely right

gray tide
merry karma
rose lagoon
full gale
hybrid vault
#

^

#

every character is good

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to some extent

full gale
#

Not to mention that the longer your run is the less the character matters huntresspoint huntresssip

lapis cosmos
#

Hunterness is far from unviable

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She doesn’t need many changes imo

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Main one would be lowering cooldown on ballista

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