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yeah bosses just have a tiny chance to spawn in the void
so it doesnt even register the boss and ignores an item
its just late game be wonky
how is there 6,000 people playing this game on steam but i only see 3 servers with people in them
feelsbadman
Pubbing is for weirdos, or so I've heard
who here is a proud owner of
Me
Irradiant pearl would be nice if it wasn't such a scam
eventually it's going to actually be a thing where people say "remember when..." and no one is going to believe anyone who says it, even though it's true
Oh god
I did have the 4% too, that’s when I got it
no background for those that want it
It was the last item I ever got, the last log
Like it being additive stat boost makes it so bad
it's not exponential??
Nah
kek
Only the base damage increase is the good stat really
And the HP increase, but the regular pearl has it too
I would honestly be fine if it didn't mess with your speed, because by the time I have an irradiant, I already have enough goat hooves to take me half way across the map lol
it gives uh +10% base armor 
Currently even the base damage increase is not that great when focus crystals exist
🙏
my first ever cleansing pool drop was an irradiant
Probably better than wisp jar
idk why I keep seeing new gas is better than wisp
it’s great for wisps and death mark now yes
but wisp is still insane, and I’ve only found it launching enemies as a benefit since they take fall damage or get sent into another surface so hard they shatter. of which the latter is more common for me
gas scales range better, has no damage falloff at the edge of it's range, and is one tier lower than wisp
basically, wisp is 350% (+280%) damage while within 50% of it's radius, but only 87.5% (+70%) while on the outer half of it's radius
oh whoa whoa wait
gasoline is always 300% (+75%)
yeah, it deals 1/4 of it's damage when going past half the range
it's sweetspot falloff, which is actually used for most explosions in this game, like mando's nades, mult's scrap launcher, or preon accumulator
all of them deal 75% less damage after hitting 50% of their range
i still think it should be lowered to -50% damage tbh
gaming discussion number 2
Are there lunar bulbs in the final area?
if you mean commencement yes
should be the island on the right regardless of what version you're on
Were are they? I cant find them...
Yeah im on pc
it should be an island covered in flowers and such
and there are a couple pods scattered around
Thanks! I just found it
👍
does anyone have any advice on how to get better, I can play on rainstorm no problem but monsoon gives me trouble...
calibretto from battle chasers is my profile, and yeah practicing will help for sure. Its also like my first week of haveing an actual pc for games
in the grand scheme of things you should keep sprinting and dodging obviously, and aiming to spend 4-7 minutes on your first few stages
other than that generally there's not anything in specific that can help you
did the game get harder with the last updates btw? i played on switch and remember being able to get everones skin easy
They made ai changes, so yes. Lesser wisps are even more crazy accurate now even
Having used mods to actually play as a lesser wisp, i don't see how they do it frankly.
for the huntress, arrow rain or ballista?
ballista is better single target arrow rain can be better for hordes of many or prismatic trials
just take ballista, it's one of huntress's only serviceable damage options
artifact of glass and shaped glass are huntresses seviceable damage options
so there are 2 artifacts of glass?
Do you guys think Huntress is the type of person to not talk almost at all and instead shows emotions through her expressions; much like this server's emotes suggest?



every time someone dies to an overloading brass contraption / overloading elder lemurian huntress takes a sip
she's gonna get drunk bad prob after a few stages
might as well be
I want the devs to say that this is canon

traffic light be like
@icy grove another tip for monsoon, try to move pretty quickly to keep up with scaling. I would say to try to start the tp every 3 minutes. It’s ok if you don’t get all the loot. U got this bro!
(But do grab SOME loot from each stage, just try not to sit and farm fir 7 minutes basically)
I'm too tired for this, @raven lichen
same tbh haha, but generally 3 minutes is too fast. you dont want to skip loot since it scales you up to actually beat the timer, as opposed to growing slower but ramping up difficulty via the stage multiplier
id actually recommend farming for like 6-8 minutes if theres loot to pick up still, longer on stages like sky meadows if you dont have a lot of movement.
The people who say to speedrun stages are kinda wack. Like you do just as well or better if you grab more than 3 items, and unless someone really wastes time its not a huge deal
what if you just try and speedrun tp but grab more loot after so you can leave fasterish?
Frankly people that rush the tp almost as soon as we spawn in on mp games are the reason i despise monsoon, among others. Because they think they know how it's supposed to be, and ignore the other people saying "hey, maybe we aren't ready for dunestriders because we have no good items, because you rushed us?"
That's good in theory, but in practice the power the items give almost always means you should grab them first. Especially on monsoon when things are tanky. Even one tri tip or a stickybomb saves more time than the speedrunning woulfld
the goal is to get as much power per stage as possible, as quickly as possible
this way you make the most of the time scaling and stage scaling
so if you can open chests faster thats great, but skipping them means not optimizing for the stage difficulty spikes
i find early game killing enemies for money is... hard to find them. it feels like a big waste of time trying to farm money for chests before tp
you get less gold from tp event
Yes. Balance power and time. People just seem to forget that you need items for power and screwing over the whole team in the process
but ultimately more easy enemy kills
the director spawns more but worth less, in the end its less gold per min
My general go to for stage one is everyone gets 2 items, and then its tp. Thats reasonable and means we can grab remaining stuff on the way out
also killing enemies feels boring but farming while ahead is how you consistently win. if enemies arent spawning fast enough, it means you are stronger then the director, killing what it spawns before it saves enough to spawn more
But it also means we don't have like 3 minute boss fights because josegonzoles2004 hit the tp before 40 gold is obtained
grab like 3 chests, do tp, grab some more that you can see or have seen, leave
it can be more boring for experienced players, but it is optimal for newer players especially
though some characters definitely need items early on more than others, cant really compare stage 1 commando and loader
Having over 400 total hours, I'd say its honestly best to take a tp boss when you feel confident in solo play. In multiplayer, its when the majority of the team agrees. However if a player is falling behind for gods sakes HELP THEM
falling behind in mp is misery
and sometimes even trying to throw every item at that person fails
MP is tough
only 50% more stuff spawns per player and not all of it will necessarily be items too
If you lose a single player due to them not being able to live through spawning, then everyone else in the party is at fault. Everyone. If they are new? Throw more items at them and make do. If they afk thats one thing, but you can't turn that around without stupid rng
Like people feeding you reds and lunars type spike in the bazaar
so you end up with every player individually weaker but the team overall stronger
my one genuine complaint in ror2 is how dying in multiplayer sets you back so much, especially after like 2 stages of dumb deaths or whatever
dying basically means run is over
tho
tbf
thats the same as solo haha
I like playing with itemsharesuite because of those damnable loot goblins, and keeping things fair. Now its a skill based game, not whatever greedy captain/huntress/merc or whatever gets the most with their item hoover
Dios
sharesuit was neat but in my experience despite their best efforts the game just felt waaaay easier
should be able to use dios to resurrect a friend
Idk. Mp is fun and its own experience, but people are just really awful sometimes
you get so much more item value you can kind ajust do whatever most of the time
i never play mp with randoms, and never without vc
Sharesuite is absolutely game breaking yes. I use it with friends, but not usually with randos unless its kinda necessary
tbh
i just prefer the game solo... more consistent
Oh i play with randos, but in vc here. And i only stick with people that work together.
If theres no vc, it won't work.
this game is very fun in multiplayer i say
2 player is my fav multiplayer amount, 4 is too much
Oh its a blast when people work together. And some nasty stuff exists
Tbh I'd like to play a game with you sometime jacob
it is fun but i find it can just as easily feel sad, like you dont get as many item and are weaker so you get less item and the other players skyrocket and you feel like dead weight as soon as someone is really strong
or you are really strong and feel bad your mates are behind
or you feel bad when they take an item that would synergize well with you, but likewise feel bad passing an item you like because its better on them etc
definitely personal preference and i like playing like 2-3p with people i know sometimes
but i do enjoy solo more personally
Its all about consistently making snap decisions, and its both its best feature and its worst
yea
i feel like late game does just devolve into less hard decisions though, usually just “okay whos stacking bands?”
late game in ror2 kinda dont really exist tho aha
once you win the arms race, youve won the arms race
Yeah, after a certain point its basically just "i don't care for this, someone else can have"
But until then i love the idea of dynamically deciding who gets what item and building not only yourself, but your team
tis fun
Agree
wish it was an option you could turn off of uh auto picking up items when walking on them, would be helpful for not yoinking something you dont need
Theres benefits and downsides to that. Sometimes you just can't stop to press e
its like sometimes i have like 7 goat hoofs and my friend has 1 energy drink and i find another and just accidentally pick it up because brain not work or i just stood where it would be
or picking up a proc item with purity
scratch that ive never experienced that, not a purity fan on any character
Purity to me is like... its good, but the downside is SO HUGE for no reason. Yeah its powerful but unless its idk, loader? Not usually worth it
proc item fun
The irony is a lot of the lunars contradict each other
me want flashy things, purity make game not flash
If you took them all, save whatever equipment you left behind, you'd probably be the most useless member of your team by a landslide
One of every item lunar, and one equipment.
defiant gouge is my fav lunar item since spinel isnt an item
Tonic? Steadily worse over time. Hellfire? Social distancing enforced and even worse healing. Meteor? Everyone hates you. The statue? Melee as a whole despises you inconvenienced placements
purity is nice on like acrid because DoTs dont work for procs anyways
but otherwise yea negative luck really hurts dps with proc chains
Gouge is fun but good god, it is way stronger now. Same with rachis
even on acrid not a huge fan of it, backup mags or hoping for brainstalks is good enough for me
oh yeah rachis
I LOVE rachis, but now having like 4 on an engie covers half the map and I'm like "what the-"
kek
rachis great
Because I'm used to needing about 20 for that
its just so much power for blight
turns 560% every 2s into 560% every 0.5s, 4x more damage output from m2 alone
betterwith bite too, and offers regenerative
you ever played with rachis, effigy drone, and meteorite drone? fun game of many circles
I honestly wish corpsebloom wasn't so horrid to stack. Even one gimps you so hard, and taking more just makes it worse in every way
bloom is solid at 1 but theres no reason to take more 😔
on engineer with bungus
risk of circles that do things
Its such a neat item too, but unless pool theres only one option to fix it. Full shields via transcendence or the new aspect
tbf most runs dont get enough consistent healing to outpace bloom, apart from REX
Because its a game of regen or massive health
transcendence looks so neat i wish i could always have the little antennae
Eh, fair i suppose.
unless you loop a lot
then yea aha
what if corpsebloom didn't stack?
like what if it was +100% (+100%) and then -90% with no stack?
that's already an extreme gimp, while still being decently ok, plus it scales well
but am not a big shield fan
God i love the design of lunars in general
helfire is very powerful
i love spinel tonic and otherwise i dont use lunars that often. unless with friends
i open lunar pods, i dont buy much from newt
Hellfire is a straight up amazing item, but its got its issues sometimes. It feels like a bit too powerful a lunar
helfire is too good to be real
I'd say that rachis and gouge are like the perfect bal of risk/reward
rachis is peak example of a lunar
yea its downsides are borderline negligible and its so much damage...
plus RAP or planula nullify it, and razorwire just breaks the game
Also shield gens suck??? Why doesn't it stack based off of total health, instead of actual health
also i dont like gouge, seems like almost always just bad
what does this mean?
gouge funny when bad luck shrine, could make grinding on stage 4 easier too
usually gouge is like
you dont need the cash, or if you do the enemies spawned are way too big and risky. esp since gold scaling breaks on like s3 or s4
Shield gens give their % based off of health. Not total health, actual health, the green(or red) stuff. So it completely fails to work with trancendence at all
in multiplayer its just a throw, since the enemy hp scales with player count too
this is not true, it works off of hp before trance applies so it gives 8% hp as shield and then trance gives 1.5x hp as shield, and sets hp to 1 after
but its really funny seeing “you have summoned (boss) to fight”
Oh gouge is good early, and lategame its moreso "everything dies, what can we spawn that won't die instantly."
1001 scavs have come to play
it also... has a nice model. like, looking at the lunars on display, gouge is beautiful
i am making the silliest defenses because it is a silly item
i feel like an item that is either unnecessary or actively dangerous is like
sus haha
like gouge kinda has no upside most of the time
true probably
They all kinda do tbh. I just wish more of them were viable in more situations. I mean fr when are you going to see trancendence and want it for the most part?
its fun late game but idk
i feel like it could be better
when u have no heal ig
also trance is great on tank builds cause big health up, and lets you toss healing for damage. plus no fall damage i guess
its a lot of hp and stacks basically for free so
what if gouge gave you an item when you defeated all the enemies it spawned? too op, maybe...
hard to make good without too good
yea then it would kinda be win more
the downside isnt much so the upside being more good would be op
Gouge kinda already wins tbh, its meant to be on one person in mp and boosts gold via spawns if needed
i think they already made the enemies less weak, but part of the problem is that combat shrines in general are a sus concept rn so an item that makes every shrine combat is weird
like in MP the enemies are so absolutely massiv ethey jsut arent worth the time to kill
Combat shrine is stonks
and in solo its only relevant on s2 or s3, then you dont need the money
and even then, you dont really save time since you need to kill giant enemies that might just one shot you, which is sus aha
I think recently they toned it down so perhaps its less bad
but idk aha, just seems like its unnecessary. brittle crown handles income a bit better but only works on good proc rate chars
brittle crown rex am i right
So, time to shake things up. What's an item a lot of people consider bad or not worth much, but you swear by?
crowbar, apparently
who considers crowbar weak aha
it is solid
I have stood by ap rounds since i first started playing.
i heard so many people saying crowbar was meh
@fluid notch
and squid doesnt?
lily
ambient scaling made its already big dps bigger, so it has more time to be relevant
there you have it
good defense on the item
Squid and daisy are still weak, but both of them were buffed i think. And frankly i like daisy, even if its inconsistent
lily
Ik its a lily, they need to rename it.
me too, ive always liked the tphealingnova
squid is much more usable now but i feel like lepton still suffers from the same issues. its fair healing but completely out of your control, so its random if it even does anything at all, and on top of that doesnt do anything for the majority of the time you play
its good for void
and thats kinda it i guess
moonman
i hate squid but i might unlock it since i am always low on green scrap
moon man’s moon*
polyp is pog
I still prefer it over squid because immobile, weak allies that get spammed everywhere and do like nothing but distract... if i wanted distractions, the twins scale better
Make lepton drop a healing nova on level up 😳
squid has like 20 base damage or something crazy and fires >1 shot/sec base
empathy cores <3
squid really do be dealing like a lot of damage over its lifespan. biggest issue is getting hit making it die too fast but since it deals so much more up front now its kind anice ambient dps
everyone asks is squid good but no one asks why is squid an item
its better then fireworks now probably?
unless there are no enemies in LoS cause homing
That and having enemies to kill too
but usually it gets to put in some work
Eh, fireworks at least let you know if you accidentally opened something you didn't see
how do you open something you dont see aha
do you run around holding E?
fire works. thats a statement
I think he means enemies
points at role
Sprint and hold 2 buttons. Blink, ballista at the poor boss, rinse, repeat.
which squid can also help with but it can’t hit stuff across the map
but no one needs to hit things across the map anyways
Still want ways to make those items with specific conditions work on both final bosses/run end situations
Imagine if warbanner was buffed. Its already a really nice item to stack across a team, but give it a few more numbers? Nice
Mithrix at least has the rest of the moon and a phase 2 for my boy warbanner
Scav has nothin
imagine a lunar item warbanner that buffs you but enables friendly fire / chaos in that zone
just a passing thought anyways i think a neat buff would be if it weakened enemies by an extremely small amount
mercurial banner
My favorite item
Hot idea
opinions on medkit? mine is that its epic
medkit is absolutely crazy early game. less good late game, but its so strong early it almost wins runs from s1 by letting you scale so much more easily
20 flat healing is a pretty big % of most survivors at low levels, and early on enemy density is low enough you almost always get the heal off
ever since 1.0 medkit has been a very nice item imo, one of the best whites
yea its really nice now
The +5% is huge as well. Meaning it STACKS, it can carry you as far as mithrix if you get shafted and only get a few medkits purely because even 3 of them is 15% of your health plus a small bonus
Meat is still better than it was tbh
but it remains ugly
i never thought of meat as good and still dont
True, but hey. At least now it has an undeniably useful effect when stacked instead of idk... literally any other healing item being better in every way?
Oh it still kinda stinky, but now its not an immediate scrap
i would make meat unrelated to health
Pre 1.0 even if it was my only healing item, i scrapped it because literally any other white would be more impactful to the run. Thats incredibly sad, but true
acrid meat s+++ tier yeah
Yeah other than acrid, but like even then i was tempted
we have like 4 other white healing items + topaz, why do we need another health related whitem?
Hey I like max HP just not meat’s version 😎
shield gen gaming 👍
Infusion gaming 👍 would like a few more max HP items
make it like monster tooth but like increase your attack speed when you pick up chubks of meat idk
Idk man, and healing is a very broad term tbh. Topaz and meat aren't healing, shield isn't healing
and also yes we need more items that use healing offensively
Reminder that pre 1.0 meat was literally worse slug in every way
slug is my fren
after playing paladin I’m really hyped for items that boost your offensive power based on your healing/defensive capabilities
make meat like give you a crit buff on heal or something, i dunno.
If they did that, it could easily be a green
what a coincidence!
#ror2-feedback-and-ideas message
literally just posted seconds ago
the fact that bandit + bandolier is not an infinite smokebomb glitch like the first game is a severe dissapointment
i need a mod that adds that back in, speedrunning was so fun with that - you could just choose your movement speed
The devs on their way to implement a game-breaking glitch on purpose
to be fair they implemented loader
Funny looking dog wipes several species from existence with extreme prejudice
sounds like a news article, tbh
Give the meat to the poor.
Maybe it'd be useful in an environment where you don't get killed in a fraction of a second
aka first half of the first loop
What's REX good at?
winning
at everything?
a lot of people don't think he's fun to play
Do you like using seed barrage or drill?
barrage most of the time
a lot of people can't even unlock him
oh i just used mul-t for that
He just feels like
Way too fucking chunky
No no, he has a point
I hope they give Arti a good selection of alt skills in the DLCs
ive never seen one of these bad boys outside of stage 4/5
They are rare, but do exist. I think outside of mods and confirmed stages, i have seen... 5 total? The director really has to go into debt for them
they are considered a "rare" spawn and therefore use a completely different set of credits to spawn than normal chests
instead they share a pool with golden shrines, cloaked chests, and lunar pods
they also are blocked from spawning before stage 4
Thats quite interesting. Thanks for sharing!
How hard is it to go on a monsoon god run?
depends on the survivor i guess, but mostly skill and adapting to the items the game offers
i mainly find that if im efficient with gathering items and dont do dumb things like take my hands off the keyboard when there are 3 elite brass contraptions nearby, im generally fine for getting a god run
I know what I'm doing this weekend
It can be really hard because one tiny mistake often leads to death
Survivor choice makes it easier or harder obviously
I'm very hard headed and I wont give up
For the first 10ish stages you need to be hyper focused and take the best possible items
Find a balance between rushing and looting because of you full clear and have bad items you won't go far
If you can full clear in 5-6 minutes that's great
yeah from about stage 5 onwards there are so many enemies which will oneshot you, so its best to focus on dodging their attacks over everything else, as dying guarantees a run to end while taking too long still has a slight chance to survive lol
You need to somehow multitask dodging and shooting perfectly
Be aware of your enemies' spawns, where they move, who's about to attack, who's close, who's far, who's a major threat, who you can take a hit from and be fine, who to prioritize
Its usually best to practice god runs on characters that allow for you to focus more on one thing, and learn it. Then incorporate the other skillset.
I like to reccomend huntress for people who want to practice things like reactionary dodging and general map awareness since she doesn't require aim, and can take care of groups with a button. So you can blink around the map, learn where things are generally and focus on surviving. The graduate to someone else you feel comfortable with and do the same thing, but now with more focus on amining and the like on top of everything else
However, if you want to skip the whole easing in thing, 100% pick the character you intend to god run consistently with
Well I'm doing a monsoon run right now trying to unlock captains skin
There is no point practicing with commando for instance if you plan to do merc, or acrid.
For captain? Double hacking, Don't take diablo strike. Hack groups of chests or chance shrines when you can. He's built to loot goblin, so loot goblin(assuming singleplayer)
Practicing on huntress is a really good tip, however make sure to unlock triple blink beforehand
Focus your strikes on groups or large enemies, spam shotgun at large bosses and stuff, but focus for longer ranges
Triple blink is the skill that truly allows you to train your reflexes and dodging skills
Yeah unfortunately huntress, while amazing for so many reasons for both training and general play, relies HEAVILY on her unlocks. To the point of her base skills being nearly irrelevant in most situations over the unlocks
With someone like captain? Just unlock hacking beacons and he's set. For acrid? Is base kit is the best so unlocks don't matter. Mercs unlocks are all kinda good in different ways.
Its different for each survivor how easy to jump in they are, and how they should be set up
I cant do mercs ethereal challenge
And the most important thing, play who you want. If someone says you shouldn't be x character, consider it? But chose who you like.
I found that blight is a lot better than poison for me so there's that
At the end of the day it'll always be a matter of preference over sheer power
That's a whole 'nother beast
Oh ethereal is a meme, most people just cheat it in via text editing, mods, or other methods. Its possible, but so difficult and so rng focused that its overall not even considered cheating by most of the community
Best tip is to check #prismatic-trials, watch Cabbage's videos on youtube, try to replicate what he does or get lucky with easy artifacts
the skill is worth it though
Slicing winds?
I'm on console
slicing winds goated
Oh the skill is good, its just not worth the effort needed for the most part
Oh fun. And console is broken af right now if i remember correctly
The update comes out June and there are multiple bugs
So I cant have a good run most the time
Unfortunately all skill goes out the window when theres game breaking bugs
Rusted key is broken
Yeah uhhhhh ethereal on console is kinda uhhhh major bullshit
A while ago on pc, artifacts broke and deleted the teleporter, you couldn't leave stage one. No amount of skill will change that, that kinda thing
If the trial has command then go for it and get 
Oh I'm aware, i put 60 hours on switch before i moved to pc
Losing barrier won't lose you the challenge
That or glass
If its a glass trial, then you basically win or die, theres no need to manually reset
Lmao
Swarms/glass/death trial is what finally broke me though.
Frankly I'd had enough of its crap
Oh I'd been trying off and on for months, crap rng every time and i finally just unlocked everything at once with an editor. I'd already unlocked everything reasonable that i cared about
Iirc the devs even sort of apologized for the ethereal challenge
I vaguely remember something like that
Tbf if I'd miscalculated the pain it was that hard, I'd apologize too. Probably didn't seem so bad in testing
I wonder if the new dlc final boss they have planned will be a better fight than mithrix? Or at least have a better stage. Both mithrix stages were kind of... meh. For different reasons
Have you tried mithrix with 
And you
They aggro on each other
Yes but they will eventually do the pizza attack
True
game is just asking for trouble
do it
LET'S GO
yea, died to overloading. one second 100% health, next second 0%
had a god run going too
F in the chat for my stupidity
lmao
yea. if i only had bandolier, then i may have been able to pull out of it
If you had eccentric vase you could have let your turrets handle it
what the fuck is that resolution
its a cut screenshot... i have a normal resolution
oh
Massive F
first stage be smiling this time
holy shit that's a good stage one
watch me die next stage
That's the most godlike stage one I've ever seen
I once got wake of vultures and zetaspects fire aspect stage one once
F for wake
in my opinion wake isn't bad
especially with zetaspects, where it stacks 20 +10 seconds a stack
i dont play modded, so i assume zetaspects is a mod
mostly i just havent gotten around to it
i probably should, cus of how much i like the game, but i really want to get the last 2 achievements (bandit alt special and captain alt utility) before i go modded
Don't take hooks of heresy when going for smushed
i figured. i would probably ask for help, maybe an artificer just cheesing with freezing though while i wait for the threshold, or does executing not grant the achievements
ive been so busy in discord i havent even started stage 2 yet xD
cus im just playing casually right now
i'll go for them if i can get a friend to help me to see if that execute would work
i assume also dont go for aurelionite, cus he just does so much damage to mithrix
yeah
How do I get the weeb
stage 8, go through the celestial portal, then obliterate
i can always hold off on getting those. i want to stay vanilla at least until the DLC drops too, thats part of it
preferably on monsoon so you get a skin as well
well, if you dont have mercenary unlocked, i assume youre not experienced enough for monsoon
yeah probably not
these 3 items in a row on stage 3... im doing pretty damn good i think
i still hate bungus
then you would hate someone i know who has it as a pfp
bungus was made cool with 1.1
and now grovetender just gave me disciple
hell yeah
pog
rarest boss item in the game
loader mains turning off their brain to become monkey
playing as engi atm
i have the ultimate "i dont need to do anything except jump around in circles" setup so far
hehehehehhe
"options"
Democracy
Well, I feel like it's quite obvious what you have to do
Three :Defiant_Gouge:
what happens when you stack defiant goige
Do you know how the director works?
i dont
So the short story is the director gets credits to spawn stuff in. When you activate a gouge, you're giving the director a small amount of credits to spawn in some powerful monsters. By stacking gouges, you increase the amount of credits you give the director and thus you get more powerful monsters to fight
cool
Ye
gouge is all fun and games until you reach sky meadow and hit a chance shrine and 50 blazing parents teleport on you
pfff
hit it 10 more times

Man, the way I'm trying to beat the game is hard, you have to get lucky in the beginning in order to even pass stage one
Download the faster chances mod and then hold the E key lol
Same, I play with command so the game feels a bit too easy without tweaks. Ended up downloading so many difficulty changing mods that I struggle on stage 1 more than like stage 20
"It will be a short run."
"You offer to the shrine and are rewarded!"
[Topaz Brooch]
mans really shitting on brooch
It ain't the greatest
but it ain't shit either
but a few stacks of brooches gives you insane barrier
it's all relative to your health
on stages 1-3 yes
how can you heal 1000 hp as rex?
easiest is artifact of command, a bunch of medkits and rejuvenation racks
infusions, bison stakes
Yeah at the beginning of the game it's really nice but falls off harder than a lot of other items in the game due to funny barrier decay
I mean it's not backup mag tiers of asinine but it's kinda eh
It's good on hunterness
And lodr
how much does fruit heal for?
50% max HP IIRC
yes
Is there a mod that lets you change how many items enemies get with artifact of evolution? I wanted to increase it
Just like silica gel.
Did you pick up 13 glasses with command?
he needed those extra 30%
Didn't think I'm going to kill Mithrix with this load out.
perma uptime strike drone
And empathy cores.
empathy cores don't get buffed from strike drones
I didn't know they were That strong.
empathy cores are nice
just make sure u sprint during mithrix's spinny phase, maybe the 2 rose bucklers can help u tank the hit if u still get damaged
Gamers
I see
Especially on Captain since his passive give drones more survivability.
No one plays rex :(
My drones out do my damage.
Lmao
I made it a bit harder by adding chaos so some things were untouchable for me, and then honor, to make all monsters elite
pogchamp rng right here
dios + overloading mithrix (didnt even know that was a thing with honor but alas)
ima be here a while
All artifacts?
they just added this, along with Aurelionite to be allowed to be an elite with the uodate i believe. maybe AWU too
ramp though 😔
aurelionite elite? nice
yeah i got bored and thought id try maao
Neat
im glad i picked up dios because i got hit by revolving doors and died, i then got hit after and had 1 hp somehow lmao i got so lucky
has anyone ever seen a malachite mithrix? is it even possible for him to get the T2 elites?
If he can be elite at all then it's probably possible
loop: yea or nay
nay
ceremonial dagger tells me keep going tbh
k
dissonance kin swarms never again
Oof
f
That’s an ominous line of boys
What about
Maao without command
what about
swo huntress
What about monsoon++ DLX
what about giving every enemy 5 dios

i finally got the piercing wind and alternate color scheme for huntress
jesus christ it was hard
but it was worth it
I had to beat the game by myself to get loaders skin because my WiFi was ass, still did it though, for some reason the melee characters are my go to
wuts timeline on expansion?
Q4 2021 (so probably like november/december) is the first dlc, there will be more in the unspecified future
for now i'd say there are plenty of fun challenges, artifacts, and mods to spice up the game
cool
Hey I'm a bit late to this response, bit if you have full hp and take fatal damage, your hp will instead be set to 1
It's called one shot protection
Oh wait the message above that one sry
oneshot protection gets you to 10% of your max hp, not 1hp, so he was legitimately lucky
"Upon reviving, they will get 3 seconds of invincibility. and the item will be consumed."
ok?
Talkin bout the dios
I was talkin about this
The dream 😮
Please tell me turrets get the burn effect on their attacks with that
Yep
That was one of the changes in the anniversary update
Something like "Turrets now gain your equipment, but can't activate it"
So Gesture doesn't work, only passive equipments like the elite aspects and fuel array
Hhhhhhhhh yes
woodsprite also doesn't work sadly
Fungus engineer too op
fuel array op
Flaming bungus

How do you get that?
1/4000 chance to drop from elite enemies
Sorry if I pinged
That means I need to slay 4000 of each type to confirm a drop
That's not how probability works 😛
Killing 4000 elites only gives you a 63.22% chance to get at least one aspect. Killing 4000 of each elite would be 20000 which does give a 99.33% for at least one (Unless you want to count perfected as well? in that case it's 24000 and 99.75%)
how did you get that
meth
just 100% - ( chance to not get an aspect ^ enemies killed)

the love heart is just a sign of you dying and blood coming out
omg dont drink the ota overwatch combine potion at 3am!!1!!11!!! , you turn into elite combine!!1!!!!1''
nice
@AveragePotatoHead#8387
finally
Did that guy leave/get banned or something
damn
🧐
i've always been withor
🧐 🧐
A landslide can also be not steep
i destroyed many nations
Truester
holy shit, it got a overcharged (is that what it's called) aspect
aren't those super uber rare?
1/4000 from an overloading enemy
and they are one of the best aspects, +50% total damage on all attacks with a proc coeff
is there a bug right now where equipment keeps getting used even after you get rid of it?
i bought an equipment drone but it keeps doing the drone summons every 35ish seconds (i assume on cooldown)
the other day i also had a radar i sold that kept pinging
Equipment drones use the equipments you give them
they also get an 80% reduced cooldown on it
Would Visions of Heresy on Engi's moving turrets increase their range?
visions is a straight upgrade on engi
oh interesting, I thought it might work lol
I think
i havent tried it yet lol
okay I just checked, and yeah visions is a straight upgrade on engi
better dps and better procs per second on both engi and his turrets
dam
another Potmobile main smh
👀
Is bandit's rifle better than the shotgun in basically any circumstance?
shotgun has better damage, rifle has no falloff at range and scales better with proc items
shotgun is usually better than rifle, but both are viable
I'm pretty sure rifle is better on higher eclipse levels?
I don't think it does, though
rifle has 1.0 proc and shotgun has .5x5 proc
yeah, i'm talking about total damage procs
i should probably write a copypasta for this, ugh
so, let's say ya have an atg, that has a 10% chance of proccing and deals 300% total damage. on rifle this would +990% base every 10 shots meaning 990% / 10 = +99% base damage per shot on average. for shotgun the proc chance would be lowered to 5%, resulting in +300% damage every 20 hits. since one shot consists of 5 hits, this would be 300% / (20 / 5) = +75% base damage per shot on average.
so shotgun gets less damage per atg then rifle due to its lowered proc coef even though it has more damage by itself.
the easier way to do the math for this would just be dps * proc coeff * 0.3 * amount of atgs = average damage from atgs
though for my example i used damage per shot, instead of damage per second
true
i see :o this i guess this makes sense if ur going for atg's / bands
seems like all the best items still work off of base damage though
turns out i cannot upload or paste images form the game
0.025%, so yeah
is the update on nintendo switch yet
Not yet, it'll be some time in June
isnt visions only better on ranged
any tips for a getting acrid run (who to play, what build, ect.)
@wicked pelican hop on a lobby bro
You mean for unlocking him?
yes
Razor wire
who should i paly
Honestly doesn’t matter
Get hellfire tincture and razor wire
Go to void fields as fast as possible
Use artifact of command
Get a bunch of good early game stuff. Razorwire, bleed, other on-hits
thanks
if you dont want command just focus on getting lunar portal stage 1 and then go there as fast as possible
requirement is like a cautious slug or something that heals
i fyou get lucky and get woodsprite that will be enough
For killing Mithrix you can just play drizzle and go on a 15 stage run or so and you should be able to destroy I’m after that
If you truly want the easiest possible time killing mythrix, use artifacts like command and sacrifice, on drizzle, using artificer, with AP rounds. Makes the fight trivial
discussions regarding video games the second
indeed
anybody wanna play with me as a duo
im in duo vc 12 if you do
im trying to unlock more people
no
#lfg-pc-ror2 for this kind of stuff
oh ok sry
if you do
if you du..o
I am now going to try and get a elemental ball thing
Elite aspects?
Best way to get one of those would be
+
and additionally
and/or
to be op
I only have two of those
do you care about getting them legitimately
Meh, not really, I turned on the elite one and then the command one, sacrifice I did as well but I don't know what's that last one up there
swarms, double spawn rates but each enemy has half hp
honor makes all enemies elite so they all can drop elite aspects
but they dont give extra money like elites usually do
Purity
Yes.
@nocturne patio imagining
ew
Gd2 
cringe
how will gd2 ever recover
Gd2 🤮
its so sad gd2 died of steve jobs
Who the hell is ligma
Steve balls
Gd2 is a sacred place, get out
Gd2 is the forgotten middle child
Nah the gd1 members are the disappointment of the family
General gang
Gd2 is usually the most reasonable place to actually chat about this stuff
True
even me???? 😿
Yeah
I don't really know you tbh
even me???? 😿
😿 you make me make big cry
for the first level, turn all your whites and greens into items that you don't want, but will help you (slugs, bungus, focus crystals.. it doesn't really matter, just don't pick up items you actually want to keep)
then get to the bazaar after teleporter even and scrap everything into as many legendaries as possible and turn them all into
(they increase the change of getting the "elemental ball thing"s). After stage 1 and you're done in the bazaar, go back to regular gameplay and invest in as many guillotines, crowbars, proccing items, and AoE items
wait I replied to the wrong one
doesn't matter too much, though
Getting an aspect?
The easiest way is to get r2modman, download ZetAspects and set the chance to 100.
Instant win 
UES safe travel sticks got me fucked up. What are they actually there for, where does the D.I.A.B.L.O. Strike come from?
Some kind of a relay for comms/planetary surface survey, I presume
Maybe it’s really big and those are the habs
warning might be spoilers for new players
those things remind me of UES CONTACT LIGHT cargo things (first ROR), also iirc in captain's log it's mentioned that the UES SAFE TRAVELS doesn't have any weaponry so this might mean that he got on another cargo ship (upgraded by himself tho)
i hope i didnt write complete gibberish
Where does it say that the ues safe travels has no weapons?
"Any armaments?" if i got it correct
so that means that captain modified the ship himself
I think the skill descriptions of the Captain say: call down a kinetic strike from the UES Safe Travels
Oh I see what you mean
Those things on doctor's screenshot looks like cargo hubs or whatever
So you’re saying captain added some massive guns on his ship?
Yes, he was given a (lets call it roughly) civilian ship and for the mission he has upgraded it
so what do you think?
got a random yt video with first ror intro
so i think that those are hubs for cargo things
maybe those sticks could be used as hubs for those little ships that landed on the planet
Oh yeah there are a lot of little ships
I also have no idea the scale of the UES Safe Travles.
I see
Me neither, lets count it as enough :)
I mean it seems pretty tiny
Looks like it's maybe only got 1 cargo hold and a main area
which items/loadouts are the best for mul-t
get attack speed, bleed
go for power mode nailgun
ukulele and atg is always nice
get crits, scythe and if you get imp overlords boss item that turns crits into bleed you can pause the game and host an expensive party because your run is officially a god run
if you're good you can run double saw power mode
for retool rebar/saw is always a solid option
*retools to saw with religious intent
tf is monster tooth doing in there
also if you use mul-t m2 outside of first 2 stages u aint straight
Mul-t is usually close enough
(the statement above is ironic, i am not gatekeeping how you should play the game. my point is however that mul-t's m2 isn't nearly as powerful as his other attacks)
(and it will tickle every enemy past stage 3, not joking)
The stun is still nice
talking about stuns why didnt you include stun grenade
how else is he supposed to stun lock elder lemurians
you can stun lock with saw and like 2 or 3 stun grenades
quite balanced
I hope you're not suggesting that m2 does a better job at proccing stun than a commando-esque m1
No
why is it that some of my run history just randomly disappears
eclipse 5 cleared baby (i know it's actually pretty easy untill eclipse 8, but still)
don't know, but same happened to me a couple of times, my run history remembers only 3 wins on bandit, even tho I cleared eclipse more times than that, not even mentioning non-eclipse wins
😔
been getting back into ror2 again and oh boy
i feel like im getting better at the game
practice with the command artifact might have helped
also, why can't i share images anymore?
need a role
eclipse fucks with run history for some reason
bad
aren't you the same person that said something similar when i said i liked huntress a few months ago?
the other half is part lepton lily and the other part based cringe crowdfunder woolie
Probably cause it was multiple months ago
possibly
I also have this glitch and I haven’t played eclipse in ages. My current theory is their logic to delete old runs is screwy so it deletes the most recent runs instead of the oldest. Occasionally going into the files and emptying the run history folder (moving them to my own folder) seems to fix the issue.
based 1
based 2
So nailgun mul-t with brilliant behemoth is super sick, what is good to pair with that?
I usually play with artifact of command on
Probably some attack speed so get

Yeah the more attack speed the more behemoth explosions
True

Big brain
Also atgs and ukulele will activate more often if you attack faster
And it's always glorious to see that happen
So basically on hit stuff. Okay
See i was grabbing gas and wisps and it didn't seem as great. So ill try attack speed
And on hit/crit
Yeah because gas and will o wisp are on-kill items
That's true. I was trying to do the overlord challenge during too, so i was grabbing as many fuel cells as i could haha
I got it though, so imma run saw / nailgun
Nice
bandit is super busted
I saw people saying that in here
his passive gives him guaranteed crits from behind
and he has really low cooldowns, to the point that his whole gimmick of resetting cooldowns with lights out is almost useless
Lul
meaning that you basically always take the alternate special, desperado
I don't want his skills spoiled too much. I'm hype to get him, what do you got to do to unlock him
Really I'm just hyped for a new update
bandit uses the huntress unlock because huntress is now unlocked by default
Ohhh sweet
if you have huntress, you won't need to unlock bandit
Sick, ez ez
Yeah we're getting the update in June
Yeah I'm hyped, is there a select date or no
Nope.
Which majorly sucks since we've bee waiting since O C T O B E R
But hey what's a few more days gonna be, right?
True. It's only a month it's got to happen somewhere in there
I fear it'll be the 25th
What's wrong with that. Just too far in into June?
Ye.
Understandable
It hurts, that's it
The 7th, 14th, 21st, & 28th are the best dates for it to be released
June 19th
because
Content
Update
Monday
Yeah
Hacking beacons are OP, should reduce 1/2
hacking beacons are op and not op at the same time
they fall off in usefulness very hard and can only be used twice per stage but in the early game they can be pretty insane
Early mid yea I hate playing with captains because they can get like 4+ items for free
chance totems and chests next to eachother
Nerf captain
Hey, opinions are opinions. He can easily get mobility through the items. His primary is amazing for close and range, having a good proc and multiple projectiles, which makes bleed and leech seed optimal. He has a passive that deflects most of all the most dangerous attacks (Solus unit ground AoE, Jellyfish charged orb, Leumarian fire, Greater Wisps, Chimera's ball attack) and gets even stronger if you have some drones, or by the gods if you have a backup equipment? That passive is amazing.
no mobility? may I introduce you to diablo strike?
captain is good, but hacking beacons have nothing to do with that
Which, many many bosses are quite slow moving
monsters dgaf about diablo strike lol
I disagree.
I think they are a huge part of the average captain's kit
could just run heal/shock double shock diablo
and I see it used a ton. Its very very strong, especially if you can get it on a chance or legendary chest
I may be wrong but I dont think targeting a strike changes their pathing
I think one hacking is okay, but double hacking is redundant
OK I think that is a good solution, only allow one hacking
double hacking barely saves any time
assuming you're full clearing, which you should be doing anyways
Full clearing is hard when maintaining a safe per stage time
Hacking can half the time on a stage, especially early
That seems
Like a perfect world senario
wha
Hello
We're debating about captain.
OH! I remember.
Yea Diablo is strong but its fair for what it takes to get it.
I have no problem with diablo, but I still think captain is op overall
ok, so basically i used the credit income and the reward multiplier from the directors to determine how long it takes to buy a chest. then i assumed you would get 2 small chests / one big one worth of money per hacking beacon to determine how much time you save when using it.
Yea
2 smalls per big
which is like ~40s per beacon as ya can see
in game mobility would also be something to account for though
The beacons are very reliable too
Yea but with those extra items mobility isn't too hard to accomplish
Isn't engie the same speed
No mobility that is
well, not really extra items, just the same amount in less time
I suppose.
True, but much of the game is luck
and being that much faster (stage time wise), stronger and capable of getting these things quicker while ignoring most of all projectiles
luck isn't a problem in ror2
because bad luck doesn't exist
because there are no bad items anymore
chrono?
chronobauble is decent
The more time it takes for a melee enemy to get to you is more time to survive
Someone mentioned full clearing stages, is that a thing i should be doing? I kinda zip to tele fighting on the way in places that benifit my build while picking up chests/loot then dip.
full clearing is statistically better than tp rushing
hmmmm imma give it a good try
7 minutes represents full clearing
but you don't need to always adhere to 7 minutes
thx bud
|| if you have a dios, it resets your skills, so you actually get 2 when you die with a dios ||
If you're a casual, yea.
Oh wow look at you
UNEMPLOYMENT BABY WHOOOO
if you want to full clear but not waste tonnes of time, do the teleporter after opening a decent amount of chests and use the money from the tp to open the last chests, it makes it pretty damn quick and you dont waste a minute to open 2 large chests
Is there logic behind lunar coins not being auto-pickedup
i mean i guess they're classed as lunars, they have blue text and such and all lunars need to be interacted with to be picked up
but for as an actual reason why you wouldnt want it to auto pickup i cant think of one
Did you make this chart? How was it created? It’s fantastic
Thats a good point, ill go with that
@tired axle made it
im happy, and im satisfied
144p
*1p
i have to play this so my laptop can handle it
i'm basically playing it as if it's the prototype version
Felt that
haha yes I'll never die
why it all the way up there tho
also, how do I enable discord overlay?
discord settings
i am currently posting off topic
is it weird that i think that every character is really good?
no youre absolutely right

Nope this game has really good characters that are designed quite well
Not to mention that the longer your run is the less the character matters

Hunterness is far from unviable
She doesn’t need many changes imo
Main one would be lowering cooldown on ballista

hate it



attack speed you say
