Meaning you lose less max HP per hit
#gd2-nullified
tepid wolf
severe chasm
Yep
tepid wolf
I mean transcendence is still not a forced pickup until like E5
That halved healing makes basically all the healing items useless anyway so might as well
Especially with how bad your base regen is
, 
, so many good items get killed by it
tepid wolf
E5 is probably responsible for the most item usefulness reduction of all the modifiers
E2 (except pillars of soul) and E7 are really cool at least
tepid wolf
E7 Halves enemy cooldowns
severe chasm
Nice
tepid wolf
The speedup is fine as well
Just the reduced healing, permanent damage and frailty artifact are really dumb
severe chasm
Half health on stage start is really dumb too imo
tepid wolf
Especially with halved healing
severe chasm
is actually really good now and that kills it
Buff the enemies, dont nerf the player
tepid wolf
E1 also just screws over engineer so much
severe chasm
Nerfing the player just feels bad, buffing the enemies feels like a challenge
tepid wolf
The gold gain reduction is ok I guess
Never noticed it much except on abyssal and grove
severe chasm
Haven't messed with it
tepid wolf
I mean doing eclipse 5 without transcendence is doable, but it's so much more RNG reliance
severe chasm
I just hate the idea of a bunch of item interactions being useless
That's why I like this game
tepid wolf
And making several legendaries useless
Since without looping there is no way you are using nkuhana's, or aegis to some meaningful extent
Also rejuv and desk plant become useless if you grabbed a transcendence (which you likely will). Since like halved healing with half starting HP is a bit ridicilous
severe chasm
Its so sad
night condor
Gd2
mellow mango
Ok maybe it’s just me but I actually kind of like e5 to an extent
warm bridge
I just wish corpsebloom wasn’t made useless by e5
tepid wolf
Or most of healing items in general
mellow mango
Most healing items are still good with half healing because they were so stupid in the first place imo
I think the big issue with e5 is mostly just transcendence
tepid wolf
And things like aegis and N'kuhana's being useless
mellow mango
Not sure how I feel about it halving regen either but it’s not the worst thing ever
warm bridge
The fact that transcendence nullifies Frailty and Eclipse 5 makes it just too good to not take every run
tepid wolf
Feels kind of garbage to get a legendary item and get something that does literally nothing
tepid wolf
The fact that transcendence nullifies Frailty and Eclipse 5 makes it just too go...
The frailty is fine just annoying than anything
mellow mango
Feels kind of garbage to get a legendary item and get something that does litera...
I mean yeah but it’s kind of a trade off right
tepid wolf
Transcendence also helps with E1 and E8
warm bridge
Aegis doesn’t need eclipse 5 to feel pretty useless most single-loop runs
tepid wolf
Until E5 though transcendence is fine
mellow mango
Like it also feels kind of garbage to make tons of mistakes and just heal through it with medkit/tooth imo
tepid wolf
Making a few items useless doesn't feel amazing either
E5 with E1 are especially dumb early game
warm bridge
After finishing eclipse 8 all classes just before the update I haven’t felt the urge to go back and do bandit yet
mellow mango
yeah I think e5 would definitely be more fun early game if you didn’t have to deal with e1
warm bridge
I like e1 a lot
tepid wolf
And make it not affect regen
So you don't have 0.3 starting regen
With half HP and half regen
It makes vagrants on stage 1 so stupid
mellow mango
Idk because it affecting regen does certainly encourage skillful play
tepid wolf
Since their chip damage with splash becomes kinda dumb
mellow mango
Arguably in a better way than e8 does
warm bridge
Seeing the fast enemies and the low cooldown enemies for the first time is great
tepid wolf
And half size teles are fun
Half size pillars of soul shouldn't just be a thing though
warm bridge
Half size teles is a mixed bag. I wish it was just teleporters and everything else was the same
deep pecan
reject eclipse embrace evolution
mellow mango
Yeah I really liked e2 in 1.0 but now it’s a lot more annoying
tepid wolf
Half size pillars of blood, design and mass are fine though
mellow mango
Like I already dislike doing the pillars and now it just feels even worse
tepid wolf
Just pillars of soul are almost impossible
And you can be forced to do a pillar of soul by bad RNG
tepid wolf
Never really found them that bad by just timing jumps
But yeah just annoying
Pillar of soul might as well be a GG
mellow mango
yeah I wish the devs would put in a little more effort into actually balancing the pillars rather than just haha you are forced to do these ones sometimes
tepid wolf
Making a zone you can barely fit into with enemies that make heavily damaging fire pools that cover the whole zone and golem chimeras that fire high damage missiles is just dumb
deep pecan
I really wish enemy speed/cooldown scaled in the main game instead of it just being a one-off Eclipse buff for them.
Scaling health and damage and nothing else is secretly this game's biggest downgrade from RoR1.
warm bridge
I think it’s so neat that they made the enemies modular enough where the devs can apply across-the-board stat changes without breaking everything. Makes me really hopeful that long term they’ll do a lot with that
tepid wolf
In general eclipse could use some more unique modifiers
Some of them are great, but then there's a bunch which are just a big no
deep pecan
Evolution is the only way to get alternative scaling, and totally unnecessary buffs to healing items have made it less fun than it used to be.
Also Tesla Coil is still in the pool because "we don't want to balance artifacts" or something.
tepid wolf
A ton of repulsions is the only way to counter tesla really
Since when hordes of enemies has it, you can't just use hit-n-run tactics like with tesla scavs or Mithrix
mellow mango
Oh yeah Tesla in evolution is just stupid
deep pecan
I don't even think there is a counter, if enemies get tesla coil on stage 5 the run is genuinely unwinnable at that point.
deep pecan
It's barely, occasionally beatable in void fields but in normal gameplay you just have zero chance.
tepid wolf
Also the dio's damage immunity is pretty annoying
deep pecan
Dio's is definitely a handful but not unbeatable.
tepid wolf
More just super annoying
deep pecan
Tesla is "dude just kill every enemy within 10 seconds of them spawning and/or before they get close to you including bosses lmao"
mellow mango
nkuhanas is also kind of just death depending on the items they have
But that’s a lot more rare to see
warm bridge
Dying to tesla coil in void fields is a rite of passage that I wouldn’t mind if they got rid of
tepid wolf
Also making void harder in general
But removing teslas
I guess removing more useless items could work
deep pecan
Void needs its timer back at like 0.5 speed.
tepid wolf
Eclipse void is pretty fun though
warm bridge
Void needs its timer back at like 0.5 speed.
Wait, you want void fields to be longer?
deep pecan
I want to (partially) undo the change where time is stopped in the void fields.
mellow mango
Void needs its timer back at like 0.5 speed.
I think there are probably much better ways of giving void a permanent impact on your run
deep pecan
It was a change with good reasoning and good intentions but they waaaay overcorrected.
tepid wolf
Yeah making certain things spawn or something when you clear it
summer terrace
void elites are very cool
tepid wolf
Since you are releasing things from the void
deep pecan
9 items and a bunch of level ups for free put you so far ahead of the curve that the game never catches up.
tepid wolf
9 minutes per void minimum is a bit ridicilous
mellow mango
Like making the run timer really inaccurate is not great
summer terrace
time being stopped is good
deep pecan
Keep the timer accurate and halve the speed at which difficulty increases, I guess.
mellow mango
Then that’s just a somewhat confusing unexplained mechanic
warm bridge
Too complicated a solution imo
deep pecan
Still an improvement from what we've got right now.
mellow mango
I mean that doesn’t mean there aren’t far better options for improvement
limpid briar
Since Void Fields is a one-time visit per run, the items that are given to the enemies there should stay permanent for the rest of the game.
Just remove Unstable Tesla Coil from enemies and all good.
tepid wolf
Tougher times and repulsions in void also just screw over certain survivors
limpid briar
It's part of the lunar theme, it's a drawback for a lot of potential of worth.
deep pecan
Evolution is already unpopular for the potential to give ONE tougher times/repulsion armor to every enemy.
warm bridge
oof hard disagree with this idea but it’s whatever
tepid wolf
Like making certain survivor's burst damage be useless a good amount of the time or making you deal 1 damage
proven lance
Since Void Fields is a one-time visit per run, the items that are given to the e...
I tried to make a suggestion for enemies to not get tesla coils in voidfields. People didn't seem to like it
summer terrace
that's because TT is a dumb dumb item
mellow mango
yeah tougher times for the rest of the run would be really garbage
limpid briar
Tougher Times definitely needs a rework.
summer terrace
yes
mellow mango
Repulsion might be ok as you outscale it
summer terrace
yeah it's fine
limpid briar
Also probably remove Kjaro's/Runald's Band from item pool for enemies.
summer terrace
pain early
tepid wolf
Repulsion might be ok as you outscale it
Depends on survivor
summer terrace
esp on like mando
deep pecan
1x TT is fine on enemies honestly. 5x is a bit much.
proven lance
Tougher times is great. I had 10 stacks and lived to stage 3 mythrix standing still
summer terrace
or acrid
tepid wolf
Dealing 1 damage with certain characters would really suck
limpid briar
Tougher times is great. I had 10 stacks and lived to stage 3 mythrix standing st...
Which is exactly why it needs a rework.
Kjaro's/Runald's Band on Bell Contraptions is pain peko.
tepid wolf
Tougher times is great. I had 10 stacks and lived to stage 3 mythrix standing st...
Completely random 100% damage block is dumb
limpid briar
Also, it's a white item.
warm bridge
Don’t take away my teddy
tepid wolf
Also it's unreliable which is annoying
proven lance
Unless you have a bunch of scrap and find a printer it won't be that busted
deep pecan
I actually like TT specifically because it's unreliable.
limpid briar
It should be capped at like 10% dodge chance.
tepid wolf
Unless you have a bunch of scrap and find a printer it won't be that busted
Yes it is
limpid briar
60%-80% dodge chance on all enemies and self damage is kind of...
deep pecan
You never get into RoR1-type situations where you just don't bother dodging because you know you will tank the hit.
tepid wolf
Even 13% block is pretty good
deep pecan
TT should definitely scale worse than it currently does, though.
tepid wolf
10 tougher times is literally a 60% block chance which is not hard to get
deep pecan
The RoR1 version capped at 35%.
limpid briar
10 Bison Steak, a literal health-based item only gives 250 health.
What can you survive with 250 health?
Lesser Wisps.
mellow mango
yeah each tougher times is like 15% effective health increase right
proven lance
Why not just make it a drastically lower boost to the percentage upon getting a stack
mellow mango
It could honestly be a green
warm bridge
I was sad to find that bison stake didn’t factor into personal shield generator calculations! Am I right about that?
deep pecan
Why not just make it a drastically lower boost to the percentage upon getting a ...
That's what should be done, yeah.
summer terrace
What can you survive with 250 health?
Lesser Wisps.
game balance 😎
tepid wolf
Or just make tougher times not completely negate damage or something I dunno
limpid briar
Make it like 0.4%(+0.4% per stack) dodge chance, hard caps at 10% dodge chance.
Or make it on a cooldown.
deep pecan
okay that's a bit too far in the other direction
proven lance
I like the cooldown idea
tepid wolf
Just make it heavily reduce it on proc or something
tepid wolf
I like the cooldown idea
Then it would just make it still OP against big hits
limpid briar
Cooldown like Old War Stealthkit. But not decrease cooldown per stack because it's a white item.
proven lance
Then it would just make it still OP against big hits
I guess
warm bridge
Mithrix is sobbing rn
tepid wolf
I mean you usually take occasional large hits anyway
cosmic maple
Then it would just make it still OP against big hits
There's nothing wrong with tougher times being situationally OP. a lot of items are
summer terrace
make it a red item 😎
tepid wolf
There's nothing wrong with tougher times being situationally OP. a lot of items ...
Current tougher times is always bonkers
cosmic maple
Yeah, always OP isn't the best solution
proven lance
make it a red item 😎
They would need to buff the flat block chance if they were to do that
deep pecan
8% plus 4% per stack would be fine.
tepid wolf
A complete damage negation on a white item is just not a good idea
proven lance
8% plus 4% per stack would be fine.
And then each stack after the second gets reduced by half
tepid wolf
Like 7 stacks double your EHP
deep pecan
also, jesus fuck I thought it was 8+8% for some reason
Hermit's Scarf wasn't even a bad item, why did they buff it so ridiculously hard in the second game
it takes four Tougher Times in 2 to exceed the hard dodge chance cap from RoR1
cosmic maple
Tougher times is very strong but it still requires investment to get to insane levels
tepid wolf
No it doesn't
tepid wolf
White items are stupidly easy to stack
limpid briar
Investment is things like Heresy items.
cosmic maple
That's not what I mean
deep pecan
like, forget the heavy investment stuff, 3 tougher times for 31% dodge chance is insane and stupid.
hybrid vault
tougher times could probably use a nerf to block chance, both initial and stacking
tepid wolf
Also tougher times are insanely swingy against large hits like from Mithrix
Just casually blocks a 2400 damage revolving door hit
cosmic maple
To get a large amount of tougher times reliably, you'll either have to hit lots of multishops or a printer, and in both cases you're choosing tougher times over other items, which is what I mean by investment
final shadow
PSG doesn't stack as well as Tougher Times, and it even gives shield instead
limpid briar
To get a large amount of tougher times reliably, you'll either have to hit lots ...
It's not like Tri-tip Dagger where only survivors who has high rate of fire can use it.
Literally every single survivor can use Tougher Times, there's no downside to stacking Tougher Times.
tepid wolf
PSG is a nice and balanced HP increase
hybrid vault
guys we should totally definitely nerf aegis, it is definitely very extremely overpowered guys
deep pecan
PSG doesn't stack as well as Tougher Times, and it even gives shield instead
don't tell people this or they'll ask for more PSG buffs
tepid wolf
PSG only really sucks with perma tincture or rex
cosmic maple
7 Tougher times is double health, yes, but 7 tri-tip daggers is infinite bleed for basically every survivor, 7 crit glasses is enough crit to get insane usage out of predatory/scythe/spleen, 7 armor-piercing rounds is nearly 3.5x damage to bosses from all sources
limpid briar
I wouldn't say Personal Shield Generator sucks with Helfire Tincture but with Rex, there's a case to where it is good and that's with Aegis.
hybrid vault
7 Tougher times is double health, yes, but 7 tri-tip daggers is infinite bleed f...
tritip only gives +10% bleed on hit
it was nerfed
cosmic maple
yeah, 70% chance per hit is very sustainable
tepid wolf
7 Tougher times is double health, yes, but 7 tri-tip daggers is infinite bleed f...
Also double HP is better than crits that also need more items
deep pecan
7 tougher times is not double health.
warm bridge
The devs have said before that they don’t want every item to be equally balanced anyway to create “chase” items. Tougher times is a good “chase” defense common item.
tepid wolf
It effectively is
deep pecan
No, it's significantly better than double health would be.
hybrid vault
7 tougher times is not double health.
it blocks about 50% of the time, so it is effectively double health
deep pecan
At least in the context of RoR2.
cosmic maple
The devs have said before that they don’t want every item to be equally balanced...
Exactly what I was about to say, having good items is fine because it makes runs different
tepid wolf
Yeah I meant as from a metaphorical side
final shadow
The devs have said before that they don’t want every item to be equally balanced...
It's better than good. It psychologically makes the game feel unfair if you don't block something above a certain block chance.
cosmic maple
That's probably what makes it not insane
final shadow
To make the game feel unfair, even if it isn't, that's not good design
cosmic maple
well, it is insane
summer terrace
also ruins the entirety of the defensive item pool
deep pecan
Like I said, I actually like that aspect of tougher times.
tepid wolf
Yes tougher times is an insane defense items
deep pecan
The fact that it might do nothing encourages you to still dodge shit.
cosmic maple
But that's what makes it not completely over-the-top. No matter how many tougher times you have, you can still get hit by one attack that really matters and die
tepid wolf
But that's what makes it not completely over-the-top. No matter how many tougher...
Not really OSP exists and healing is insane in this game
cosmic maple
so yeah, you still have to dodge things and other defensive items are still useful as a backup in case tougher times doesn't work
tepid wolf
51% block chance with 7 items is still bonkers
cosmic maple
I can't speak for everyone but I've felt like OSP is super inconsistent after the changes in 1.0
I've been getting one-shotted more than ever
tepid wolf
OSP is way more consistent now
warm bridge
It's better than good. It psychologically makes the game feel unfair if you don...
If I die because I relied too much on chance, maybe I shouldn’t have relied on chance and used a different defense item
cosmic maple
^
deep pecan
at any rate, it is completely over the top but hopoo only does item nerfs in ridiculously egregious cases so people are probably going to have to mod in TT nerfs if they want them.
tepid wolf
Just having tougher times around and playing normally is kind of nuts
limpid briar
If I die because I relied too much on chance, maybe I shouldn’t have relied on c...
I would agree with you if not everything in late game one-shots you.
tepid wolf
I would agree with you if not everything in late game one-shots you.
And the final boss also one shots you
limpid briar
I don't really fight Mithrix, I just go to O9.
deep pecan
have any items ever been nerfed besides tri-tip dagger and guillotine? I can't remember.
cosmic maple
It is a good item, it is allowed to be a good item, it's good that there are good items, but it doesn't do everything for you
final shadow
Here's a fun challenge:
Go play the game, and don't pick up Tougher Times. Feel how much funner it is.
tepid wolf
It is a good item, it is allowed to be a good item, it's good that there are goo...
That doesn't mean it should be OP AF
warm bridge
I mostly only fight mithrix. Probably explains some differences in our opinions! 🙂
tepid wolf
Which it is
cosmic maple
the fact that healing is relevant at all shows that tougher times doesn't do everything for you
limpid briar
I mostly only fight mithrix. Probably explains some differences in our opinions!...
Malachites are fun.
eager prawn
Here's a fun challenge:
Go play the game, and don't pick up Tougher Times. Fee...
Lmao what? How is it more fun to take more damage?
tepid wolf
the fact that healing is relevant at all shows that tougher times doesn't do eve...
Yes it does do a lot and it gets better as time goes on
hybrid vault
have any items ever been nerfed besides tri-tip dagger and guillotine? I can't r...
sticky bombs were nerfed, because they were super fucking busted when early access launched
hybrid vault
Malachites are fun.
agree to disagree
deep pecan
ah right sticky bombs
limpid briar
agree to disagree
Better with context. Meant as a sarcastic joke to another reply.
hybrid vault
also, gesture used to give -50% cdr on ALL stacks
final shadow
Lmao what? How is it more fun to take more damage?
It's more fun to not rely on blocking damage than to expect to not get hit, despite getting hit
It makes it more fun in the fact that it's up to skill now, not luck
hybrid vault
difficult is good because I enjoy suffering 😎
deep pecan
difficult is good because I enjoy suffering 😎
this but unironically
summer terrace
disable these items:
gasoline
tougher times
will o the wisp
razorwire
ceremonial dagger
tesla
cosmic maple
The point of tougher times is not to "rely on blocking damage"
hybrid vault
it's sort of unironic and sort of ironic for me
tepid wolf
Tougher times is way too good of a defense item for the rarity
eager prawn
Meh, tougher times isn't even that good past like 3 stacks anyway
deep pecan
that is just factually incorrect
eager prawn
No that's my opinion bud
limpid briar
disable these items:
gasoline
tougher times
will o the wisp
razorwire
ceremonial...
I actually did a challenge like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L76uLbObLJc
eager prawn
That's kinda how opinions work
hybrid vault
That's kinda how opinions work
yes, but your opinion is based in factual incorrect-ness
deep pecan
what's the point of banning items if you're going to leave strides and gesture in
merry karma
based
eager prawn
I mean okay? My opinion is based on the math of hyperbolic stacking but sure, if you want to be condescending then sure
limpid briar
But, it was banned items:
White items: Soldier Syringe, Lens-Maker Glasses, Paul's Goat Hooves, Energy Drink, Tri-tip Dagger.
Green items: ATG Missile MK. 1, Ukulele, Kjaro's/Runald's Band, Will-o-the-Wisp
Legendary items: All of them.
Lunar Items: All capped at 1. Shaped Glass banned.
Oops, meant Shaped Glass only.
Wrong run, for Gesture.
merry karma
focus crystals not banned 😎
deep pecan
that makes more sense
limpid briar
Except for the Legendary items. I always ban all legendary items.
summer terrace
I actually did a challenge like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L76uLbObLJ...
very based
some legendaries are cool though
hybrid vault
crescendo is pretty based
deep pecan
still left strides in tho
limpid briar
I like some legendary items but I don't like how most of them scale.
limpid briar
~~still left strides in tho~~
Wasn't playing Loader/Rex, so I get a freebie.
summer terrace
please convince plasma to update itemtierselection
cosmic maple
banned items seems like a neat concept, but to me the possibility of getting good items makes up a lot of the excitement playing the game, so I don't think it's something I'd ever personally do
limpid briar
banned items seems like a neat concept, but to me the possibility of getting goo...
The idea was originally that it was a Multiplayer lobby, so there are 4 people. Each player picked a white and a green item to ban.
I always banned Tougher Times and Fuel Cell.
I would say like 70% of the others spite ban with banning other good items like mobility.
deep pecan
I wouldn't use it for normal gameplay but it would be nice to disable the on-kill damage items in Swarm runs.
hybrid vault
I also wouldn't do it because the "balance" in ror2 is too fun and funny
merry karma
please convince plasma to update itemtierselection
yess
deep pecan
I personally don't take lunars outside of multiplayer runs but I don't need a mod to enforce that.
except spine, sometimes
and meteor
bitter shoal
i grab crown and transcendence on certain characters
transcendence on say, huntress isnt half bad at all
cosmic maple
crown and heresy items are the only ones I really take but even those depend on which character I'm playing
deep pecan
I think lunar items that reliably improve your chance of success in a run are lame since they have no cost associated with them that actually matters
limpid briar
Found it.
That was last year.
Kind of impressive that I'm still playing Risk of Rain 2 to this day.
cosmic maple
Most of the other lunars I don't take because I don't like them
merry karma
how many hours do you have rn?
deep pecan
I think lunar coins persisting between runs was a mistake, but out of all of the many things I would like to change in RoR2 that is the one that is LEAST likely to ever happen so gotta suck it up.
tepid wolf
Most lunars are fine except gesture
limpid briar
how many hours do you have rn?
5,746 hours.
tepid wolf
Like most lunars have some thinking before picking them up
cosmic maple
Especially glass, glass is neat but with the changes to OSP I feel like if I take one then I might as well commit to stacking a ton since there's a good chance I get one-shotted anyway
tepid wolf
Tonic is fine without gesture as well
cosmic maple
Gesture I usually only go for if there's some specific thing I want to do with it
Like planula + tincture + razorwire + gesture, that's always a funny one
I've also been thinking about playing captain and going backup + gesture to get as many microbots out as possible
but if I'm using a missile launcher, capacitor, or anything else that I picked up just because it's a good item, then I usually don't take gesture
well, sometimes I will take gesture with those items if I'm going full tryhard mode for a difficult unlock or something, but if I'm just playing for fun then I don't
gaunt spear
I dont take lunars most of the time
I might pick up one or two to try them out
But unless I'm building for in command, I never find much use out of them
gaunt spear
Even Gesture, which goes off at inconvenient times
unkempt sail
I dont take lunars most of the time
I might pick up one or two to try them out
B...
reroll for 57378378354786 coins
lol
gaunt spear
I dont ever reroll either, I go to the baazaar mostly for the 
soup
unkempt sail
remind me what does it do
gaunt spear
Gives you temporary aspect when you kill an elite
bitter shoal
~~aegis is bugged on console and doesnt work
~~
hybrid vault
dude I fucking love aegis
whole lotus
dude I fucking love aegis
mfw when
mild grotto
How are you supposed to use Focused Assault? When I use it with Slicing Winds, I feel like it just kills all my survivability for a little bit of extra damage I don't really need, and with Eviscerate it just feels like shitty Blinding Assault + Slicing Winds
high torrent
focused assault is much much more better for full lobby multiplayer run because of how much stuff is spawning
frosty flax
@somber salmon if it's not you then I'm sorry, if you played with me just now - when you host a game and leave as a host, you finish the game for everyone so please don't leave as a host, also there was no reason to quit, we'd easily finish that stage
high torrent
<@!250737129662054400> if it's not you then I'm sorry, if you played with me jus...
still no luck on good multiplayer runs on streams?
i was trying to host there but was instantly flooded by other people lol
frosty flax
oh hey and yea, it got worse since anniversary update cause lunar cheaters are much more prominent
high torrent
can't stop rolling the slab lol
this is the way I got rid off all of my lunar on the day first and now I'm semi fair gamer
shut sonnet
does anyone know when the dlc is being released
final shadow
4th quarter of this year
dull ingot
distant kettle
Today I learned that the last stage is impossible without any mobility items.
it just takes a long time
spice fulcrum
It takes less time when you also have no mobility skills because you just die.
I was engineer.
No jumps, no speed ups.
distant kettle
😭
spice fulcrum
It was just sad.
merry karma
idk I feel like doing it without mobility items is pretty easy if you know the portal destinations
spice fulcrum
wat
spice fulcrum
That sounds more doable. Last stage with no mobility is very bad.
I didn't even reach mithrix.
distant kettle
mithrix is kinda lame anyway
spice fulcrum
A bunch of mobs targeted me, dropped every skill I have, Turrets died to the blue flame the little guys leave after they die. No way to dodge the flying machine gun guys.
I just stood there, excepted my fate.
merry karma
ohh you mean before mithrix fight
broken ginkgo
here's how 124 tonic affliction on mul-t looks like
lapis sparrow
modest trout
anyone got the irridant pearl log?
quiet swan
me
quiet swan
im in a run right now, trying to get rex's dunked achievement
modest trout
Oh my bad lol, hope you get it!
quiet swan
i didnt realize only TP spawned ones counted for the achievement
drifting cedar
That one is a fun one
modest trout
Ooh awesome
quiet swan
i got it when it was 4% drop rate, now its been buffed to 20% chance
spice fulcrum
It's 20% and I still don't have it lol.
summer terrace
need nkuhana
modest steeple
who else hates blazing enemies with an extreme passion
moment
quiet swan
i hate overloading more
modest steeple
and 2 blazing beetles went up to me and i died because i couldnt get out of the shield move in time
i died in less then like 4 seconds it was sad
i was doing like super good too
i had very good items and literally 10 seconds before got resonance disk
quiet swan
can we just.... remove overloading enemies from the game? its the one thing that kills me the most.
floral gull
Mods are fun
rose sequoia
Longest run I ever had.
sonic sinew
Hmm what's the best boss item?
quiet swan
in my opinion, little deciple. its just so annoying to get
charged perforator is also good. shaderspleen is amazing. planula is awesome. the only disappointing one i can think of is genesis loop
whole lotus
i think loop is good idk
polar sleet
Loop makes me as sad as the ice aspect death trigger for players
raven lichen
loop is good when it goes off but it feels too risky to try and use, and too inconsistent to actually have do something in mid-late game
it is a lot of damage in a larg aoe when it does work out tho
dull ingot
Pairing with a Stealthkit is always a bonus to notify you of the Loop’s charging period to find a good place for the explosion to occur, too.
raven lichen
thats true, they do synergize pretty well now
zinc kernel
rose sequoia
Why do people complain about finding the TP being so hard?
final shadow
only on Scorched Acres
swift badge
Or Sundered Grove. Personally struggle with that one.
finite sky
people are bickering in the other discussion chat i just wanted to show off my mul t double sawblade + chrysalis god run
beyblade build or edward explodyhands take your pick
outer folio
Капитан=ИМБА
shy zealot
Капитан=ИМБА
i don't think this is english guys but i might be wron
upper briar
gd2
austere fulcrum
gd2
dapper harness
This is my first post in GD2, ok bye GD2
high torrent
i don't think this is english guys but i might be wron
KapNTaH - NmbA
merry karma
KanNTaH=NM6A
upper briar
dull ingot
yes
austere fulcrum
yes
dull ingot
y e s
austere fulcrum
double boss damage y e s
burnt vale
What happens if I eat the bustling fungus with the Buffalo steak
quartz saffron
later you'll sit on the toilet for an hour
outer tulip
Why do people complain about finding the TP being so hard?
it can feel alot longer when you need to go fast
opaque socket
Nah
outer tulip
FUCK YOU
astral wharf
Gd2 is cringe
outer tulip
ACTUAL BITCH
night condor
Gd2
merry karma
gd1
outer tulip
we should go back to gd1
opaque socket
ACTUAL BITCH
astral wharf
Gd2
Bottom text
night condor
Gd2 🤢
astral wharf
Me when Gd2 gets raided by gd1
outer tulip
true story
merry karma
pd1
dry dirge
Dead chat XD
urban gate
collected all yeah
bitter shoal
i got rack as rex which was frickin amazing but had 0 mobility items
if only i used that hoove printer at stage 2
austere fulcrum
everyone hide in gd2 while horny is happening in gd1
bitter shoal
yeah that’s why i’m here
river mountain
god help me
merry karma
pleaseee
river mountain
poll to remove gd1 when?
urban gate
daggerssssssss
sonic sinew
I feel like I should appreciate the daggers more I never get the change to use them in my build
manic remnant
bruh this person changes their build based on items, just m1 go brrr
lapis cosmos
poll to remove gd1 when?
if gd1 is removed gd2 becomes new gd1
silver plover
if gd1 is removed gd2 becomes new gd1
then just remove gd2
latent field
for anyone that got the captain smushed achievement, what build did you use/how did you do it
i am in need
silver plover
just do any build that doesn't risk randomly killing him on accident
so don't take stuff like atg missile or drones
then just whittle him down to low health and call the beacon down
latent field
so no daggers or anything?
slender zenith
Shaped glass
Lots and lots of shaped glass and crowbars
Or AP rounds instead of crowbars
somber rock
Yeah missiles stole it from me 3 times lol.
latent field
damn dude
slender zenith
Wait. I thought you had to kill him with the supply beacon?
latent field
i think they meant for the other phases
you do need to kill him with the supply beacon
slender zenith
Ok good just making sure I wasn’t crazy
somber rock
Oh I changed the bindings so I keep forgetting
You aren’t crazy. Was it... R by default?
latent field
yeah
somber rock
Alright good.
wind glacier
https://open.spotify.com/track/6XlJRWxoxjCxvrlaLfZQ2v?si=9df64272e2ed4dc1 does this beat remind anyone of the ror2 ost
sky meadow i think
latent field
oh my god
i accidentally one shot mithrix as captain on the last phase and my dios rez'd him so i got another shot at the challenge
i got so worried hooooly
sturdy yarrow
Ah yes my FAVORITE player: ???
brazen gazelle
Does run history save even if you crash?
dull ingot
Ah yes my FAVORITE player: ???
I didnt know blue baby was in this game
final turtle
POWER MODE DUAL NAILGUNS IS THE WAY TO DO IT! (Although I seriously don't like rebar puncher, scrap launcher, and the saw is outclassed by the nail gun)
We also like shield generators right?
swift badge
Predatory actually stacks fairly well
Each stack gained is 12% attack speed
Each extra Predatory allows for two more stacks, causing an effective 24% attack speed for each one, which is more than a Syringe
...plus, watching your attack speed rev up is satisfying.
sonic sinew
How do you get that many shield generators
quiet swan
artifact of command and probably a 30 or 40 loop run
autumn haven
artifact of command and probably a 30 or 40 loop run
More like a 30 or 40 hour run
quiet swan
ehh, if you have sacrifice, you get a lot of items late
cosmic maple
Is there any way to skip the final stage with headstompers + wax quail?
crystal stratus
this was with mods on but found out this can happen
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678323510409691199/830993630244110345/notlock.mp4
swift badge
Is there any way to skip the final stage with headstompers + wax quail?
Enough Wax Quails allows you to trimp super high up to Mithrix
indigo steeple
so i almost did twisted scavengers on my frist solo moonson but i DIED
cosmic maple
I only had one so I don't think it was possible
eventually I gave up and immediately died trying to play the stage normally so that was how that run ended
tall wharf
Double Rejuv and Aegis literally had me at 2,000+ health at all times
uncut yew
this was with mods on but found out this can happen
https://cdn.discordapp.com/a...
Does the ship still spawn even if you don't kill mithrix?
if so, speedrunning strat inbound
crystal stratus
it does but the force field doesn't go down until he's dead
so it'd be great for coop runs (one person goes through and another does the boss)
but you kinda just softock yourself singleplayer if you do it before
and i am not sure if that's even doable yet
also i should note this seems to require either
a) a push from something to get you through or
b) knockback from a character (it's hard to tell which contributed the most from the video)
and we were using enforcer to try and push, so if b is the case unless modded runs became a thing there'd have to be a vanilla solution
or perhaps if chaos would let you knockback people that could work but again, not sure
rose sequoia
Doesn't loader do some KB?
lilac oracle
Man... I had a 2 hour run and then went to face Mithrix for the first time. I learned his moves quickly. But round 2, I dont know what went wrong, just a step or two, or maybe too much time focused in? So discouraging...
dull ingot
Prioritize the flying ones while keeping an eye on the grounded ones is the best advise I can give you besides not to give up
lilac oracle
I took care of the machines. I was killed during the 2nd round with him. Please tell me there's not a third round. It took like 25 mins already
tepid wolf
For Mithrix I advise fighting him without loops
Makes the fight feel more proper than just stomping him into the ground in a god run
fallen python
median matrix
Each extra Predatory allows for two more stacks, causing an effective 24% attack...
the item caps at 36% so there's no need to take more than 2 since the item doesn't improve
quartz saffron
i think you are misunderstanding how it works
one pred can give you up to 3 stacks of +12% atk speed
each new pred gives +2 max stacks
quartz saffron
that 36 is the 3x12
which is from 1 item
with 2 you can have 5x12
with 3 you can have 7x12
etc
hasty widget
Can someone explain why I feel so crap at this game....?
I only got 15 hours but it feels like I can't get further than I am
quartz saffron
it's a rougelike, it doesn't rly make it easy for new players
you have to learn stuff from experience (or outside sources)
hasty widget
I'm an fps, like fallout guy, and decided to try my hand
Yeah, I guess I barely understand how items work and such
quartz saffron
have you unlocked any of the survivors?
quartz saffron
for basic info check out the wiki if you want to improve https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/Risk_of_Rain_2_Wiki
have you played ror1? I personally have and transitioning into 2 wasn't difficult for me, aside from the 3d aspect
quartz saffron
are you playing on drizzle?
zealous grove
don't feel ashamed to play on easy
hasty widget
Drizzle.....?
quartz saffron
zealous grove
quartz saffron
the easy difficulty
hasty widget
Oh, no I play on medium
I played on hard once and I couldn't get pasted the first stage lmao
tepid wolf
It's a roguelike yeah so it will be very difficult early on
quartz saffron
well perhaps you could try easy till you are comfortable
severe chasm
Definitely give that a try first to learn what items do and how they interact
tepid wolf
That's their entire shtick
severe chasm
Learning how items interact is a huge part of learning this game and why this game is so insanely fun
hasty widget
Yeah, I've literally played so many games, but this is the first game where it literally feels like I'm absolute trash at it, it's weird
zealous grove
you can learn a lot about the game from watching YouTube, there's good content
that's the point of roguelikes
hasty widget
Hahahaha
tepid wolf
Yeah because roguelikes don't care if you are new
They throw you into the action immediately
severe chasm
There also a lot of misconceptions and misinformation. Take most things for a grain of salt until you try them yourself.
quartz saffron
plus some stuff comes down to personal preference and the situation you are in
severe chasm
Huntress is really fun
zealous grove
arti is the hardest character to learn
tepid wolf
Merc would be that honestly
quartz saffron
what's the longest you've got on a run?
slender sigil
no shot arti
tepid wolf
Arti is hard too though
hasty widget
I play artificer like super, slowly lmao
zealous grove
merc is the hardest to master but not learn
severe chasm
A ton of characters have a lot of depth which makes them hard to play
Let's not spoil any characters though
zealous grove
unlock loader
hasty widget
Um, the part where it stops telling me to look for the portal, but to do something else, I've gotten to only twice, but I literally die within 4 minutes
I have loader, he doesn't seem really fun
tepid wolf
She is about speed
quartz saffron
she's one of the best chars once you learn how to use her
severe chasm
Shes really cool and has a lot of sick tech
zealous grove
you have to charge the shift and the grappling hook is very fun
tepid wolf
Learn to use the grapple and then use the shift
quartz saffron
and she does a motherload of dmg
zealous grove
it took me way too long to realise you need to charge the shift
quartz saffron
hasty widget
Okay no sorry I don't have loader, got confused between MUL-T
zealous grove
mult isn't fun, you're right
severe chasm
But yeah, basically this game boils down to how well you can use the items the game gives you. There are a ton of strong things you can do in this game even with below average RNG
hasty widget
Yeah, but it feels like if I don't get those feather things as bandit I'm already dead
severe chasm
Every item has a purpose, some are worse than others yeah but there aren't really any bad ones
tepid wolf
Also learning how to dodge without abilities is crucial
quartz saffron
if you want a fairly easy run with mult, I recommend taking double rebar; shoot, tap retool, shoot again - repeat till everything is dead
severe chasm
Yeah, but it feels like if I don't get those feather things as bandit I'm alread...
?
hasty widget
You're assuming I have things unlocked lmao
hasty widget
<:Hopoo_Feather:587717552051060746>?
Yes
severe chasm
You can jump then use your shift and then cancel it with your right click to gain a lot of height
quartz saffron
if you use bandit's smoke bomb while in the air you get a jump
severe chasm
Also his stealth is insanely powerful. Enemies just forget you exists or keep shooting where you last were
hasty widget
Yeah yeah, I have 20 hours or so I got basics when it comes to huntress, bandit and artificer
tepid wolf
You also get a jump when exiting cloak
hasty widget
Yes yes
zealous grove
shoot the little flying balls first (lesser wisps) they're one of the only enemies with hit scan
tepid wolf
Also both smoke bomb and M2 reset falling momentum
tepid wolf
With the M1 it reloads slower if you don't shoot all 4 shots as bandit
severe chasm
I feel like we are smothering them lmao
hasty widget
Acrid, and I'm trying to play him now
severe chasm
Acrid, and I'm trying to play him now
LETS GOOOOO
quartz saffron
acrid is an easy survivor to play
severe chasm
Acrid is my favorite
zealous grove
<-- dumbass
hasty widget
Oh
quartz saffron
spit and run, then watch as things die
hasty widget
Lmao
severe chasm
acrid is an easy survivor to play
Poison acrid is yeah, Melee Blight is less easy but the damage payoff is huge
Acrid is just so cool
slender sigil
I only play purity acrid cause I'm bad 😎
severe chasm
Theres a reason hes the lab discords mascot
zealous grove
because acrid is a dumbass?
severe chasm
hasty widget
I wanna unlock "mercenary" because he seems fast, exactly how easy would it be to unlock him in the next 1hr and a half
severe chasm
Because he is good boi with a ton of cool interactions
Poison vs blight analysis was also the first video me and Charlie did together
tepid wolf
Mercenary is not as easy as he seems on paper
zealous grove
I wanna unlock "mercenary" because he seems fast, exactly how easy would it be t...
it will take you the entire hour and a half
severe chasm
I wanna unlock "mercenary" because he seems fast, exactly how easy would it be t...
Not very hard at all on drizzle
zealous grove
in a single run
tepid wolf
Also you want to spend about 5-7 mins per stage
quartz saffron
do you know how to unlock him?
slender sigil
without loader it might take a bit
severe chasm
You can do drizzle obliteration in like 30 minutes
hasty widget
It did not occur to me that I could unlock characters on drizzle.
severe chasm
It did not occur to me that I could unlock characters on drizzle.
All of them you can do on drizzle
quartz saffron
you can do pretty much all achievs on easy/med
hasty widget
I do not know how to unlock anything, literally winging everything
quartz saffron
only a few things are needed on monsoon
hasty widget
Yeah I don't know why that didn't occur to me
severe chasm
Go to stage 8 and enter the celestial portal then go from there
zealous grove
It did not occur to me that I could unlock characters on drizzle.
if you get sirens call on stage 4 look around the map for little cyan eggs and break them
they don't spawn in the cave
zealous grove
Go to stage 8 and enter the celestial portal then go from there
the green portal
tepid wolf
It's white or grey roughly
severe chasm
You want to make sure you interact with the prongs on the teleporter on stage 5 so that it aligns with the planet
zealous grove
basically just interact with the outside of the teleporter once
hasty widget
if you get sirens call on stage 4 look around the map for little cyan eggs and b...
.......I've heard siren's call so many times and I still don't know exactly what it is
severe chasm
Just a warning though, Merc has a very high skill floor and ceiling, definitely one of the harder characters to play
tepid wolf
Yep
severe chasm
.......I've heard siren's call so many times and I still don't know exactly what...
One of the 3 stage 4s
My favorite actually
slender sigil
.......I've heard siren's call so many times and I still don't know exactly what...
stage 4 with the best music
zealous grove
.......I've heard siren's call so many times and I still don't know exactly what...
one of the stage 4 variants, it says in the middle of the screen
hasty widget
Are the stages not random? Huh?
zealous grove
they're random from a set
quartz saffron
most stages have 2 possible environments
stage 4 has three, stage 5 is always the same
severe chasm
There are 2 stage 1s, 2 stage 2s, 2 stage 3s, 3 stage 4s and one stage 5
And the 2 stage 1s have 2 possible layouts
hasty widget
Oh, okay
slender sigil
abyssal depths and stage 5 also have alt layouts
quartz saffron
most of the environments have variants too, for example there's the default titanic plains, but it also has an alt version
severe chasm
abyssal depths and stage 5 also have alt layouts
Yeah, pretty similar but with some changes
slender sigil
abyssal is good to take note of as the teleporter can spawn in a tunnel that's pretty well hidden
tepid wolf
Acres also has some layout variety
zealous grove
stage 1 - Titanic plains, distant roost
stage 2 - abandoned aqueduct, wetland aspect
stage 3 - rallypoint delta, scorched acres
stage 4 - sirens call, abyssal depths, sundered grove
stage 5 - sky meadows
hasty widget
fouihwiuhfewjskdkj sensory overload
slender sigil
siren's call best music anyone disagreeing bad 😤
zealous grove
from there you can either go to the Moon and do commencement or loop again by interacting with the teleporter
hasty widget
THE MOON?!?!?
severe chasm
like I said smothering
hasty widget
HUH?!
severe chasm
YOU SPOILED IT NOOOOO
quartz saffron
the planet's moon
hasty widget
Planet's moon okay
zealous grove
~~like I said smothering~~
better to smother with basic information instead of higher concepts
hasty widget
Yeah its okay I'm just sucking it all in
severe chasm
Sorry if we are coming off strong, if there is one thing I know about this games community is that they really love the game @hasty widget
slender sigil
game deep
severe chasm
better to smother with basic information instead of higher concepts
True
zealous grove
something like lunar portal is meaningless without knowing anything about the game
hasty widget
Yeah yeah, I got it because Penguinz0 gave it a really good review so thought sure
Is lunar portal the blue one?
severe chasm
Game is very good
quartz saffron
yes
zealous grove
yeah
zealous grove
Yeah yeah, I got it because Penguinz0 gave it a really good review so thought su...
Charlie moment
pearl hedge
Is lunar portal the blue one?
it's more like blueish green
severe chasm
Yeah, the place you purchased Artificer was the bazaar
pearl hedge
Very similar to the store portal on the first glance
severe chasm
Dang I haven't seen you in a hot minute @pearl hedge
hasty widget
The bazaar....Yes..... big monster....give me character....yes
zealous grove
Very similar to the store portal on the first glance
it is the store portal
and it's not green
you're thinking of the celestial portal
pearl hedge
lunar isn't the obliteration one?
severe chasm
Newt is a homie
pearl hedge
shit, disregard that then
tepid wolf
No, celestial is
zealous grove
to get to stage 8 you need to interact with the outside of the teleporter on stage 5
hasty widget
Don't think I've ever seen the celestial
merry karma
to get to stage 8 you need to interact with the outside of the teleporter on sta...
with one of these
hasty widget
Unless I've just mistaken the two
severe chasm
Cropped because spoilers
zealous grove
blue yellow color blind people btfo
severe chasm
blue yellow color blind people btfo
pearl hedge
blue yellow color blind people btfo
it's worse on certain stages due to the filter
zealous grove
Unless I've just mistaken the two
it only spawns on stage 8
hasty widget
Wait I actually have a question, I freed something But I have no idea what I freed
quartz saffron
if you walk next to the portal it'll say which one it is
zealous grove
acrid
hasty widget
Something about a witch, I did it in a cave
zealous grove
wait
hasty widget
Nah this was after I got acrid
quartz saffron
you can also ping the portal
pearl hedge
oh you've unlocked 
hasty widget
ohh
severe chasm
is a really cool item
hasty widget
Yeah it wasn't until 15 hours in till I figured out you can unlock items
zealous grove
<:Nkuhanas_FACT:760243775900876831> is a really cool item
don't they're not ready
tepid wolf
Also every stage 4 variant has a way to get a guaranteed legendary item
hasty widget
Also every stage 4 variant has a way to get a guaranteed legendary item
That makes sense
severe chasm
don't they're not ready
Not going to explain how it works or what it interacts with though god I want to
You can fight the secret boss on sirens call or find the hidden legendary chest on the other 2
Legendary chests are really expensive though, but almost always worth farming
quartz saffron
(or just play cap and then it's free 
)
zealous grove
basic game tips
when you can, prioritize damage > movement > healing > utility, maybe in that order
spend about 4 minutes looking for the teleporter and looting on stage 1-3, and 6-7 on stages 4 and 5
kill lesser wisps first and leave lemurian/beetle to last
it's okay to leave the teleporter zone to do the boss fight
severe chasm
they dont know who cap is
zealous grove
don't scrap items unless you see a good printer
tepid wolf
5-7 mins per stage is good
pearl hedge
scrap some items
tepid wolf
Actually the most efficient
pearl hedge
fucking 
hasty widget
So if I spend longer on each stage, getting more items, it will get harder?
severe chasm
fucking <:Squid_Polyp:826691070024089620>
With the new ambient scaling they actually hit really hard
hasty widget
Or is that a stupid question
tepid wolf
Yes enemies scale with time
zealous grove
yes, there's a certain sweet spot
pearl hedge
Yes and the stage will run out of items with time unless you have 
(a certain artifact)
tepid wolf
That spot is roughly 5-7 mins per stage
severe chasm
Was doing a run with redbeardy McGee where we had a few and they were doing more DPS to Mithrix than we were
Always make sure you are doing something, like getting gold or items. As long as you aren't wasting time enemies wont outscale you
quartz saffron
So if I spend longer on each stage, getting more items, it will get harder?
well that's a bit of the 'risk' part of the game; you can spend longer times on stages to collect more stuff but if they don't help you out too much, the enemies can outscale you
severe chasm
Rushing used to be meta but a ton of item buffs have pushed the method to get consistent runs towards just getting every item on the stage
zealous grove
the teleporter will always be roughly on the other side of the map from your spawn, look for red sparks
traveling in an L helps you find it and maximise item find
hasty widget
Gotcha
Is it normal to hate wandering vagrant, because right now I hate wandering vagrant
severe chasm
Yes lol
hasty widget
Hate*
tepid wolf
Yes it's normal to hate wandering vagrant
zealous grove
Rushing used to be meta but a ton of item buffs have pushed the method to get co...
I'd still say 4 minutes looting is all that's necessary for stages 1-3
tepid wolf
I'd still say 4 minutes looting is all that's necessary for stages 1-3
Nope it's less efficient
severe chasm
You can actually hide behind the teleporter prongs to avoid the explosion btw
zealous grove
Is it normal to hate wandering vagrant, because right now I hate wandering vagra...
take cover when he starts the nuke attack
tepid wolf
Also with stone titans stand below their feet
zealous grove
also that
quartz saffron
vagrants are annoying but you can avoid their explosion most of the time
tepid wolf
They will never laser you if you stand directly below them
severe chasm
I'd still say 4 minutes looting is all that's necessary for stages 1-3
People have done a ton of testing on it since that's one of the biggest questions about the game
And this method is the best both on paper and in practice
hasty widget
Yes, the nuke attack has killed me a significant amount of times, and I thought like, it was mainly range based, but yes cover is the thing
severe chasm
Yeah titans only laser you if you are a certain distance away
hasty widget
Like I know it has a range but I thought that would take priority over finding cover
severe chasm
Like I know it has a range but I thought that would take priority over finding c...
You just have to break line of sight with the vagrant
tepid wolf
You need to break line of sight
severe chasm
The teleporter prongs ade big enough to hide behind for reference
zealous grove
could you take cover behind enemies
quartz saffron
oh hey, did you know that you can jump on top of vagrants?
severe chasm
could you take cover behind enemies
No, afaik
zealous grove
damn
tepid wolf
Vagrants are fine later on, but oh god first stage vagrants are hell
Compared to the other bosses mainly
Well except as merc
zealous grove
loder
tepid wolf
Well sorry for the spoiler, but slamming is a thing
quartz saffron
mult can rebar them down without too much probs
pearl hedge
yeah but merc is also a thing
tepid wolf
You just slam the vagrant into the ground instantly killing it
hasty widget
Okay so how does it work that I get shattering justice on stage 2
severe chasm
Slamming is so cool, there is a ton of advanced tech in this game
hasty widget
Is that just complete luck?
tepid wolf
Slamming is so cool, there is a ton of advanced tech in this game
Also slamming sometimes launches enemies to the skybox
zealous grove
yes
severe chasm
Okay so how does it work that I get shattering justice on stage 2
20% chance for rates in large chests, and a 1% chance in normal chests
hasty widget
Understandable
severe chasm
I forget what the chances are in shrines though
hasty widget
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
zealous grove
half the game is luck and half the game is making do with what you have
severe chasm
is really good too
tepid wolf
Like I slammed a greater wisp into the skybox on rallypoint at one point
severe chasm
Like I slammed a greater wisp into the skybox on rallypoint at one point
Lmao nice
quartz saffron
Okay so how does it work that I get shattering justice on stage 2
by ror2 laws, getting a red item early on means that you'll die in a horrobly humiliating way - or you will have a god run
zealous grove
Slamming is so cool, there is a ton of advanced tech in this game
is there anything for arti besides the instant utility cast
severe chasm
Wait how much force would slamming a wisp or jellyfish do?
No idea lol
severe chasm
is there anything for arti besides the instant utility cast
Bomb jumping lol
hasty widget
by ror2 laws, getting a red item early on means that you'll die in a horrobly hu...
Understandable I see where this is going
zealous grove
same concept as tf2 damage surf?
tepid wolf
Also I once somehow nearly instantly killed a overloading worm for some reason I still have no clue how
severe chasm
If you release nano bomb (maybe spear too idk) and then jump and flick your camera at the same time you will launch in the opposite direction you flicked
tepid wolf
Arti mostly has a skill rotation you do
zealous grove
yeah i know about that
tepid wolf
Flamethrower is especially important for it
severe chasm
A good way to practice it is to play double nailgun powermode MULT and practice with his double shotgun since it's the same thing
zealous grove
If you release nano bomb (maybe spear too idk) and then jump and flick your came...
I'll have to try that tomorrow
severe chasm
I'll have to try that tomorrow
It's so fun
zealous grove
well, today
severe chasm
I'm really bad at it but it's a really cool tech
Also cancelling ion surge with strides is cool, though not really a tech
zealous grove
thinking about defecting to be an arti main
tepid wolf
Strides in general has cool movement
severe chasm
💜
zealous grove
ion surge strides 
sounds like a lot of fun
tepid wolf
Only issue is that it sometimes launches you a bit too far
severe chasm
Strides loader has the coolest movement in the game no question
tepid wolf
Since you keep going forwards and can't stop
severe chasm
Yep. It conserves all momentum
zealous grove
what are you doing for damage then, new special?
tepid wolf
Thunder slam was such a nice buff to strides loader
severe chasm
Yep @zealous grove
tepid wolf
I like how strides actually plays like a bruiser
severe chasm
You get your 2000% band proc then hide in I frames lol
tepid wolf
Basically being in the face of enemies and tanking hits
severe chasm
Get hooks as well to play a completely different Loader lol
Hooks strides loader is a whole new character
tepid wolf
The M1 of loader still doesn't fit the rest of her kit well
tepid wolf
It's weird, the M1 feels like from a different character almost
tepid wolf
The spiked gauntlet and thunder slam work well witht he M1 though
Just the utility doesn't
zealous grove
It's weird, the M1 feels like from a different character almost
grapple into an enemy and punch it
i don't see how it doesn't fit
severe chasm
New loader utility that isnt a punch? 👀
zealous grove
Honestly one of the best reds for 6MM
what is the 6m portion
tepid wolf
grapple into an enemy and punch it
i don't see how it doesn't fit
Because loader is about flying around at high speeds and punching things into oblivion with one punch
severe chasm
what is the 6m portion
Stage 6 Mithrix Monsoon, 6MM is the acronym
zealous grove
oh i didn't know people specified mithrix early
severe chasm
Yep
zealous grove
i almost never loop anymore
tepid wolf
Same
severe chasm
Its the way a lot of players play the game really
tepid wolf
I do loop with friends, but not anywhere else
severe chasm
Including myself
tepid wolf
But with friends looping is a lot more interesting
severe chasm
I do loop with friends, but not anywhere else
Me and Charlie went to stage 15 recently, was a ton of fun but ended up going to Mithrix and getting killed by our own opinions lmao
zealous grove
Because loader is about flying around at high speeds and punching things into ob...
at a lower level of play staying attached to a boss and tanking everything with full barrier is the strategy
tepid wolf
Me and Charlie went to stage 15 recently, was a ton of fun but ended up going to...
Well I did a few looped runs and one of them was 10k HP power mode pre nerf mul-t
Also did a glass stacking run with a friend with tonic
Punched Mithrix for 179 million damage as loader
zealous grove
it fits with the kit, just not used at higher concept of play
severe chasm
Well I did a few looped runs and one of them was 10k HP power mode pre nerf mul-...
Lmao
tepid wolf
The M1 is mainly good for just killing the first few bosses
zealous grove
default special is the odd skill out
severe chasm
Yep. You can tank in this game with the right setup
tepid wolf
On stage 15 which shouldn't be a thing
severe chasm
Its awesome
tepid wolf
Tanking Mithrix just feels weird
severe chasm
Yep
tepid wolf
Well I did not try to tank revolving doors
Those are super scary, their damage is insane even on 6MM
severe chasm
Instant osp most of the time
I think that 
hate is very unwarranted in 6MM, mithrix very rarely hits you
tepid wolf
PSG in general is underrated
tepid wolf
I think that <:Personal_Scrap_Generator:760239428278419456> hate is very unwarra...
Also healing to full in 9 seconds is unlikely on stage 6
severe chasm
Yep
merry karma
so many people say psg is insta scrap lol
slender sigil
psg is insta scrap lol
severe chasm
Ah yes, I will now scrap 8% more HP because it hurts something I almost never get back instantly
severe chasm
On the prongs?
hasty widget
Yes
severe chasm
It's pretty easy to miss
hasty widget
I feel like I've seen the prongs before but didn't realise you could actually interact with it
pearl hedge
It's pretty easy to miss
how tf can you not notice the prongs glowing
hasty widget
So....Do I do it? On stage 5
severe chasm
how tf can you not notice the prongs glowing
Theres a reason its pinned somewhere here
quartz saffron
if you want to keep looping, turn them
severe chasm
#ror2-game-questions was full of that question when 1.0 dropped
zealous grove
So....Do I do it? On stage 5
yes to unlock merc
high torrent
yeah, looping is not pretty intuitive
white carbon
how tf can you not notice the prongs glowing
When an horde of monsters is running at you, you don't really pay attention at the prongs of the portal
zealous grove
it used to be when there was no boss
pearl hedge
When an horde of monsters is running at you, you don't really pay attention at t...
Still, you can't reach the middle of the teleporter without running past the prongs and noticing them glow bright yellow for a sec
unless you're on switch 🥁
white carbon
Still, you can't reach the middle of the teleporter without running past the pro...
Eeeh I'd say it depends. I can say personally, zapping trough the stage with Merc and Loader I never really paid attention to it myself
Might also be because I'm on switch tho
quartz saffron
moonman can be persistent
stoic temple
if you get to the last phase just hide on top of the stairs and shoot him
opal copper
that attack was the exact same muscle memory as the Hat In Time final boss
so i didnt have trouble
which was kinda funny
stoic temple
yea ive seen the attack before
patent pumice
its a scam
gentle bolt
sterm be like
somber salmon
@frosty flax Ya wasnt me, havent played ror2 in like 3months. Sorry to hear that though, hate when people do that.
warped cradle
What items are practically useless on Artificer ?
frosty flax
this guy was clearly new so all good, it's worse when host actually knows the game and even boasts he's a god then dies and quits
lapis cosmos
austere fulcrum
why
tacit fulcrum
anyone else fight mithrix and sometimes his 3rd phase is just completely skipped
He never steals your items and suddenly its time to evacuate the moon
tepid wolf
He can die for a few frames before he starts stealing items
Usually it's hard to hit, but on god runs with the insane attack speed and all the items it happens easily
tacit fulcrum
Ahh ok its happened to me 3 runs in a row
merry grove
Kjaro’s Band usually ends up doing it.
pearl needle
Yo any tips on using crowdfunder pre-infinite money? Is that a build that exists/is usable?
I've never used it for mythrix runs
It's like the only equipment I haven't sunk alot of time into
meager basin
i am an unkillable beast that gains all of his health back (and more) by just holding M1 for 0.6 seconds
i unfortunately lack dps
lapis cosmos
pro gamer tip: If you need to get a medkit off, need a tonic or other equipment charge or need to recharge shields, falling off the map with a way to cancell fall damage is a very good way to do it. Acrid doesn't need to time his ability either, using leap at any point in the air will cancel fall damage until it hits something. Loader can do it whenever, and other chatacters have to time it
very useful on siren's call, if you get hit by the attac that launches you into the air by AWU you can stall to regain hp
lilac oracle
I'm a little confused on stage progression. How do I NOT use the primordial teleporter and instead go for another regular loop? Also, how do I get to the obliteration stage?
meager basin
I'm a little confused on stage progression. How do I NOT use the primordial tele...
interact with the outside of the p. teleporter to shift it, this will allow you to loop
to get to the obliteration stage, just get to either rallypoint delta or scorched acres and the celestial portal will appear, go through that and interact with the obelisk to olbiterate
lilac oracle
Oh okay! Thanks.
And the second point, that's on a second loop, right?
meager basin
yea
modern ether
it happens initially on stage 8 and then every 5 stages after that
meager basin
shoulda specified that
lilac oracle
Okay thank you!
Last night was my first time against Mithrix. I lost during second stage, about 25 mins in the fight. Super slow and methodical, I think I obviously needed more items, but also how do you stay focused for so long? I feel like I just slipped because of the time slop
meager basin
thats more of a personal thing that differs from person to person
for me i just sort of get into the zone after a bit of mental prep
speaking of, i'm about to put an end to this bastard
modern ether
mithrix finna die
meager basin
this is it, the moment before i die
nvm preon's busted (ft. aurelionite)
what a run
predatory + harvester's = godmode
swift badge
396% Attack Speed from all Preds 👀
Lemme double check that though.
Still not more than the 600% from those syringes. Rip.
merry karma
you can fly with power mode double nailgun with at least 90% attack speed
||and skip commencement pillars ||
austere fulcrum
I wonder if that is a speedrunning strat
swift badge
It saves the pillar charging time, so I imagine so
heavy lintel
The speed run strat is loader
slender sigil
artificing
broken sundial
lol
meager basin
The speed run strat is loader
mul-t% is real and it wins
final turtle
Loader can swing and zoom across stages and be superman (in this case its superwoman since loader is female) while MUL-T's only mobility skill is his trasport mode, which is eh for speedrunning.
austere fulcrum
has anyone else tried speedrunning as loader?
high torrent
nope, she's a slow bruiser and most of speedruns of this game were made using captain + diablo strike
austere fulcrum
I would get bored out of my mind speedrunning as captain
slender sigil
how do i get this and not this
polar anvil
be good
cosmic maple
is it not just the lighting difference between titanic plains and distant roost?
slender sigil
no i always see it as blueish ingame