To speak about maybe how the teleporter got there
#gd2-nullified
rare heart
The heretic... seems to have some other history we don't know about, as both of the brothers seem to know and dislike her.
light valve
*I saw something last night on my post.
A giant... crab. It came out of thin air and started tapping along the perimeter with one of its forelegs - like it was checking for an opening. It'd check a few meters at a time, and then disappear. Again, and again.
So, I figured out its pattern.
I waited for it, where it would appear next. My rifle was aimed at empty space - and then suddenly, that empty space became a target. But I couldn't pull the trigger.
It turned to look straight at me, and I was paralyzed. It wasn't fear, it was something else. It was talking into my brain. The words it used weren't any language I knew, but it compelled me to freeze. The experience wasn't something I can fully describe with words. I couldn't pull the trigger. I couldn't even reach for the radio. I couldn't turn to look away. While my head was ringing, it resumed its routine; I could only stand and watch. It finished its check, and then returned its attention to me, as though I were an afterthought. I could feel it take something from me, but I can't remember what it was. And then, it left.
My guess is that it got whatever it wanted, because it hasn't been back since.
Something is still wrong with my head. I can't even seem to work up the power to speak. Should I even tell anyone? Is knowing somehow worse?
And what about all those times I heard that same sound - before I ever came to this awful place?*
Whoops
bright palm
Kur-Skan is a bit like providence and mithrix, just far less powerful
light valve
Speciffically the last part
bright palm
some sort of Deific entity
rare heart
Kur-skan is an alloy vulture that made some kind of dark pact with... something.
light valve
he had been hearing the noise before he even came to the planet
bright palm
Kur-Skan isn't a vulture, she's got a lot of physical differences to them
light valve
maybe it was the void reavers pulling some strings
thats how the teleporter got on the ship
bright palm
alloy vultures have fingers, four eyes, different beak, more hunched posture
rare heart
Well, the did remove her fingers and replace them with hooks.
bright palm
Kur-skan has five eyes, claws at the end of her wings, no fingers, and the ability to manipulate electricity
rare heart
And they pulled out her eyes. And ripped her legs off.
light valve
os Kur-skan the heretic?
rare heart
Kur-skan did have fingers, just not anymore.
old ledge
Might not have even made a dark pact. Her crime might have been betraying provi by accepting mithrix's help, then trying to cut and run with the contact light, pissin them both off. Or she simply was like "hey what if we don't murder visitors to the planet"
rare heart
Well, something is up with her.
But alloy vultures, if they don't hunch over, are like twice as tall as a person.
heavy badger
so how did rex physically break protocol, does anyone even know
light valve
what I'm wondering is how would this guy (whoever he is) have encountered them before even visiting the planet
heavy badger
like they werent sentient originally were they?
bright palm
Kur-Skan is also, despite being killed, immortal in some sense
rare heart
so how did rex physically break protocol, does anyone even know
Oi, that's it's own realm of speculation... but it could be the learning module overriding it's directives.
bright palm
her eyes still function despite being ripped out and encased in glass
light valve
thats what i'm saying. If we only ever see them after mithrax dies and when we loop how the hell would this guy see them
bright palm
oh, and the inhabitants of the planet aren't original inhabitants
rare heart
Generally, you're supposed to destroy a robot that learns to disobey orders, but someone took pity on REX and put them in an escape pot instead.
bright palm
Providence basically plucked them up from various places and rescued them from horrible fates
this is why Saturn Bison are on petrichor V
heavy badger
dude just imagine
light valve
Providence basically plucked them up from various places and rescued them from h...
if thats the case why would they attack the new comer
heavy badger
the best character in all of ror coulda been killed
rare heart
It's possible the bison were cargo of the contact light too.
bright palm
the first game implies Providence controls the entire planet
rare heart
the best character in all of ror coulda been killed
Impossible, CHEF is immortal.
bright palm
and for some reason decided to destroy the contact light survivors to prevent them from probably bringing people to the planet to potentially destroy it
light valve
the first game implies Providence controls the entire planet
if providence controlled them wouldnt he controll us too?
rare heart
Providence was a he.
light valve
sorry
rare heart
And not that kind of control.
bright palm
unsure, it might have been direct but it could have been in the way a king orders their subjects
light valve
Ohhhhh gotcha gotcha
bright palm
Providence did want to save the humans though
rare heart
Well, most of the planet worshiped providence for saving them, so he likely ordered them to attack.
bright palm
his power is great but not omnipotent
rare heart
Yea, and he kept his eye on earth for when humans eventually self-destructed.
light valve
So he saved the humans just to kill us?
why did he shoot down the ship in the first place too
bright palm
"shoot down" is a generous set of words... he kind of tore the ship apart with a sword
rare heart
And explosions!
light valve
okay, imma little confused. Where was the CL's destination and why did Providence Decimate the ship
rare heart
That... is still a matter of speculation!
But there was a teleporter on board the Contact Light, which is how he got on board.
bright palm
procyon was the destinaiton but the captain took them off course for unknown reasons
light valve
hmmmmm
bright palm
I'm checking some logs and the beads of fealty might have been involved?
Mithrix built a Vault (like the one Aurelionite is trapped in) but its lock is too strong for even providence to break
and the beads are used to enter the vault
rare heart
That's A Moment, Whole.
It's outside of reality, which mirthix was planning on destroying.
For his loyalists to hang out in.
light valve
but in the opening cut scene for ror2 they say that the planet is not on anymap and doesnt show up on the routes so how would he have known to go there?
rare heart
Still a matter of speculation!
light valve
🧐 🧐 🧐
bright palm
the beads tell the bearer where to go, so the captain of the contact light, if he had them, would have sought out the planet in order to fulfill their purpose
dull ingot
One message removed from a suspended account.
bright palm
no
dull ingot
One message removed from a suspended account.
light valve
This whole teleporter on ship question is gonna bug me 😂
bright palm
mithrix apparently wanted to give one to whoever She was
light valve
where did that teleporter lead to?
bright palm
other teleporters
its unknown if he ever gave it to her though, since he got trapped on the moon before then
light valve
and do we know who "she" is?
rare heart
Naw, separate beings.
bright palm
Nkuhana I think is a different entity
whoever She is, is dead, while Nkuhana is alive enough to form pacts with people
rare heart
"She" possibly could of been another one of the brothers species.
Nkuhana is possibly worshiped in other places, with her worship being imported to the planet when Contact Light crashed.
light valve
also someone said that providence was saving people and putting them on that planet. Would you happen to know if is there a log for that?
bright palm
the ceremonial dagger and her Retort are in chests, which means they were on the contact light
some environment logs mention it
light valve
some humans worshiped her then?
bright palm
brittle crown log mentions it as well
light valve
okay sweet thnaks
Thanks everyone for helping me out and speculating with me. If you guys come up with. anything else or have any further ideas feel free to add me and Dm me. I'll make sure to credit everyone whenever I finish this first little project!
floral gull
Are mods broken right now? The only one working right now is the sniper mod for me
bright palm
the patch broke mods, yea
floral gull
rip
topaz hornet
When will Artificer get some love as in changes? Maybe she is fine the way she is...
hard cargo
Did anyone else lose a bunch of their unlocks when they got the new update
Cuz now I gotta do this shit again
I’m on the correct profile to i don’t know why it’s happening
Have to kill 20 hermit crabs again whyyyyy
dark arrow
that's weird
hard cargo
I even lost power saw which I 100% had
high torrent
was doing some runs with arti lately, I just needed something to deal with chimera wisps, maybe aim trainer lol
high torrent
Cuz now I gotta do this shit again
it's free rn
crude elm
If debug toolkit still works, you could always force your next stage to be commencement.
Practice your aim against Chimera that way.
high torrent
hurry up, FREE TRIAL WILL EXPIRE SOON
everything that depended on r2api is red tho
but that's a great suggestions, thanks
hard cargo
Yeah just got it lol
high torrent
nice
rare thicket
I even lost power saw which I 100% had
If you had it once before just save edit them in
hard cargo
Forgot about that
severe chasm
If debug toolkit still works, you could always force your next stage to be comme...
It does not work
Wanted to do more testing tonight 
arctic dagger
This game needs a catgirl
half mason
Oh cool, there's a loading screen now
warped pine
there was
it did some minor tweaks and bugfixes
including making ||irradiant pearls|| 5x more likely to get from a ||cleansing pool||
silver elbow
oh godo h heck dissonance didn't stop the worship unit he Lp
silver elbow
floral forge
ngl im surprised bandit is so high
tawny plaza
well new characters always land highest for a while
final shadow
I'm not surprised Bandit is super high
Even though he's pretty strong, he's got a lot of depth to his playstyle
more than other characters, at least
And it's pretty rewarding to use that depth to your advantage
Thus, a fun character.
raven cedar
You don't need to do the artifact trials if you only want to loop back. Unless you really don't want to fight the teleporter boss or collect extra loot.
wooden furnace
Cuz now I gotta do this shit again
very easy if you get the time crystal one where you just run around and break those and then do teleporter with no enemies
wooden furnace
I even lost power saw which I 100% had
why would you want powersaw anyways
cyan quarry
It's good
rose sequoia
You don't need to do the artifact trials if you only want to loop back. Unless ...
How can I skip it?
raven cedar
How can I skip it?
Interact with the spikes that surrounds the teleporter. It will shift to a different position and get a message saying that the teleporter is aligned to the planet or something like that.
raven cedar
Blue portals will also make you skip pass the final boss area.
raven cedar
Ow
rose sequoia
To be fair I was technically cheating by infinitely flying so.
zinc kernel
hello
severe chasm
Hello
winged nimbus
I'm trying to get the huntress skin.
Command sacrifice and swarm
rose sequoia
Kin?
winged nimbus
it doesn't actually do anything...so yeah
rose sequoia
It does alot though. Thank you btw.
winged nimbus
Oh no i meant in the trail specifically since it spawns monsters in waves the artifact doesn't keep it the same monster from the first wave so in the trial it literally doesn't do anything
But I would recommend you do the command trial anyway since it is literally the easiest
errant yew
this game got me through a dark period of my life. playing it now reminds me of that time
nimble glacier
I'm looking at Loader in the survivor logs and A. I just noticed the model has booba, and B. I just noticed how uncomfortably her arms are positioned
orchid girder
I was trying to get B&E for Bandit, but I guess my run was far too powerful as I skipped Mithrix Phase 4.
Oops. lmao
nimble glacier
That happened to me too, but thankfully I shot him
floral forge
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1809859799000100342/47E9D61B140302310...
look at this fancy mfer with working command 😢
nimble glacier
I just noticed he has 1 eye in his final phase
That explains his shit aim
Got bad depth perception 😔
bright palm
he has 1 eye in general
nimble glacier
U rite, more just appreciating the peek under the mask
median ingot
I've been stuck ascending for 20 mins now, all hope is lost. I hit one bounce pad and the stage apparently has no ceiling, so rip to run ;-; just sad and need somewhere to share this ;-;
keen knoll
did you use a mobility move on a bounce pad
median ingot
nah, modded character has no gravity, doesn't actually descend on their own.
keen knoll
i don't play long enough runs to kill newt
keen knoll
all my runs are 6 stage because i am a mithrix person
somber wing
gd69
turbid laurel
what do you get if you kill the newt? me and my friend did it last night..
mossy garden
everlasting guilt
turbid laurel
no guilt was had 😄
mossy garden
you killed a defenseless shopkeeper
turbid laurel
his items were trash
turbid laurel
im stuck on something now though and i have 0 idea how to do it
mossy garden
what is it
turbid laurel
mercenary prismatic trial
tidal lantern
his items were trash
You do realize you can sort through items with that big stone thing next to the shop right?
tender dew
just died by the planet, which apparently is essentially the game saying "how did you die what the fuck"
and idk either
i saw someone say they got it from fire after the fire elite died, maybe that was it
turbid laurel
You do realize you can sort through items with that big stone thing next to the ...
it was a joke lol
hallow slate
If you weren't killed by an enemy or yourself it says you died by the planet
You just gotta find ways to do that
tidal lantern
it was a joke lol
Lol
solid maple
what does lunar coins do?
tidal lantern
Let’s you go to the abyss which lets you by special lunar items which can be good I suggest looking up a few to see what you think of them you can also by artificer in the abyss and it let you go to the void fields to get acrid so it’s important
spice fulcrum
What the hell is this teleporter spawn.
wise bronze
shield rex is meta
hybrid vault
power mode was so good that it had to be nerfed, but it's still good
woven pivot
ah epic
scarlet matrix
found an overgrown 3d printer
Yeah there pretty rare but not as rare as red item printers
tender dew
oh aight
scarlet matrix
I’ve only ever seen one red printer
tepid wolf
Also use it, that item is insane
Shatterspleen is so powerful, compared to the beetles
mint trout
why does my minigun turn into lasergun on my class
Mul-T's special ability switches between two different primary weapons as well as two different equipment slots.
scarlet matrix
found an overgrown 3d printer
I’d say grab it the urn is way better than gland
tepid wolf
That might be a shatterspleen
I can't really tell from that angle
Still either would be really good
scarlet matrix
Honestly any yellow is better than gland...except genesis loop
tepid wolf
Loop is good if you use it to your advantage
Also on mobile turrets
And it's activation time is shorter the more attack speed you have
scarlet matrix
Also on mobile turrets
No one runs mobile turrets
tepid wolf
Yes a lot of people do
Because they are a sidegrade since both turrets deal the same DPS/procs
And you sacrifice bungus for movement and death mark synergy with the slow
scarlet matrix
But the bungus 
torpid hemlock
scarlet matrix
robust gull
I like me some bungus, but mobile turrets be zoomin
sour pecan
Anyone know spawning rate of radio scanners? Trying to 100% the game and now im just looking for those scanners at this point
latent field
holy fuck new commencement is hard
these perfected elites always fuck me before i can even get to mithrix man
violet rapids
Anyone know how many tri tips captain needs?
tepid wolf
14
blissful flint
@sour pecan radio scanners are pretty common, wouldn't recommend waiting for them to spawn when you can usually just accidentally find it
also keep in mind that some environment logs are not unlocked by scanners
there are actual logbooks on the hidden realms
@latent field you'll figure it out sooner or later with practice and experience. i went through bandit eclipse with zero commencement skips (chrysalis, vase, etc) and it was tough but a lot more intense and interesting
latent field
yeah ive done it before i just struggle a lot with it still
hybrid vault
yo redbeard
lapis cosmos
flying chimeras are so brutal
latent field
they really are
tepid wolf
Only if they are perfected or you have shaped glass
latent field
they just laser you and there's nothing you can do about it
tepid wolf
Or are double saw mul-t, melee acrid
Any other time their minigun does very little damage
And the super ball is quite slow now
lapis cosmos
Any other time their minigun does very little damage
maybe I need to like make distance
tepid wolf
Also keep repulsion armor plates for commencement
lapis cosmos
I do anyway
tepid wolf
Helps with the miniguns
latent field
tbh sometimes i feel like there's not enough terrain on the moon for all the shit they throw at you
maybe that's just me being bad though
tepid wolf
But yeah perfected flying chimera are not to be messed with
I can't wait to try out the ship defense changes
Eclipse ship defense won't be BS now
lapis cosmos
pillars are so stressful sometimes
latent field
true
tepid wolf
Just don't do pillar of soul with eclipse 2
lapis cosmos
what is that again
tepid wolf
The one that shrinks and you lose charge when you got outside of it
latent field
i was gonna say soul is the worst of them all
lapis cosmos
I am kinda poopy with moon
tepid wolf
Mass is just really boring
lapis cosmos
never really got into mith until now
tepid wolf
Playing eclipse a bunch made me apreciate Mithrix
I should try out some bandit eclipse with all alts
lapis cosmos
I have not done a 6mm completed run yet
tepid wolf
Mostly because those alts are really nice for Mithrix
Desperado lets you farm the chimeras and rolly boys from pillars for stacks, blast has good ranged damage, shiv is good for applying hemorrhage
dull ingot
yo can anybody help me out with installing mods please?
tepid wolf
I would probably go to #ror2-modding for that
dull ingot
hi
brisk hollow
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J5l-9ISHhp6KVt7KbowBM-N_BuJ7o4ywI49Di61-hKs/edit#gid=0 For anyone wanting stage 1 comparisons. Tested with a ror2 streamer (Races) over the past week or so, and still adding data 🙂
digital saffron
Gen chat mood
analog roost
Is that what it is?
dim niche
I assume
analog roost
I though I was muted
bleak jacinth
what items do you go on ranged and which on melee acrid? I don't know whats good or bad
bleak jacinth
on which one?
analog roost
Idk what to do I play melee acrid
dim niche
what items do you go on ranged and which on melee acrid? I don't know whats good...
I would assume focus crystal would be good
analog roost
The long ranged one
bleak jacinth
ahhh
dim niche
That’s for melee anything tbh
analog roost
I always use the long ranged secondary even for melee
orchid girder
Bandit's full kit is unlocked now. :D
high torrent
congrats
orchid girder
Ended up stacking lots of 
against mithrix
tidal tartan
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J5l-9ISHhp6KVt7KbowBM-N_BuJ7o4ywI49Di61-...
Can't believe my disdain for roost could sink any lower
brisk hollow
Roost is a tough one, almost bad enough to quit till you get the better plains. didn't think the numbers would show this drastically
orchid girder
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744037927264452709/831583482442154054/unknown.png
Here's what the run was like when I got the achievment
heavy lintel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744037927264452709/831583482442154054/unk...
So to do this and smushed break the game but not to much that you kill him in the cutscene
Also he still has hp
orchid valley
a good chill run bois, a nice day
tired axle
weak
split forum
HOW
IM LITERALLY ONLY MISSING THE SUNDERED GROVE LOGBOOK
HOW DID YOU- ohhh eclipse
ECLIPSE RUNS COUNT TOWARDS 100%?!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
zenith kindle
Somebody call an ambulance. :D
tired axle
ECLIPSE RUNS COUNT TOWARDS 100%?!
they don't
tired axle
IM LITERALLY ONLY MISSING THE SUNDERED GROVE LOGBOOK
i'm missing it as well btw
shy zealot
im a simple man, i hear the credits music, i get sad
outer swallow
since the last 2 updates I am now missing a couple of logbook data
why does the total completion bar go over 100?
orchid girder
I dunno
outer swallow
I at 98% it says, what about you guys?
pine oxide
Is the dev test stage still in the logbook? That might be why
split forum
i'm missing it as well btw
then how do you have that percent? :/
tired axle
and then there are also those 51 extra items i got from somewhere
warm bridge
Has anyone else noticed that Huntress’s Flurry hasn’t been working very well in the current update? When things get a little chaotic it almost seems like it stops firing and I’m wondering if it’s a setting I have (no mods btw)
high torrent
auto aim was always a bit junky, nah?
severe chasm
Lod bias will sometimes delete the arrows VFX
warm bridge
True but it feels almost like it cuts out because it’s trying to switch target mid-triplet more often now, making it shoot only 1 or 2 arrows. But now I’m thinking it might have been my vfx culling bias somehow eating them
severe chasm
The damage is still done though
Turn up lod bias. Maybe its load bias? Something like that
warm bridge
Cool, good to hear someone confirm that suspicion! Thanks
upper ginkgo
I think I did pretty good for beating it my second time on drizzle
My first time was yesterday on the normal difficulty
This game is pretty fun not gonna lie
upper ginkgo
Idk man, I saw it and shot as many lighting strikes as possible
I got the game 3 days ago
Cause it was on sale
shy zealot
Welcome to the game, I hope you enjoy your stay
upper ginkgo
I will, the first one is way different
I tried it today and I prefer the second one
Only cause I like movement
The second one is like being a jet fighter by the time you fight the boss after looping once
I used mul-t so I can have radar and the lighting strikes
Ez dub cause I traded the radar for the elephant and had massive defenses when fighting the boss
So I wasn't one shot
I still dont know what half the rare items do tho
Stuff like the lunar items and legendary stuff
shy zealot
the lunar items are a little strange and i recommend reading what they do before taking them
all legendaries are good though
raven cedar
Lunars are the only items that actually has downsides for picking them up, but generally have powerful upsides.
upper ginkgo
I had a vase thing that boosted stats
And combined with like 11 syringes it was op as hell
Mul-t and captain are my fav's
I dont see many downsides
I had an item that increased healing but had to work over time, win win
Cause I just ran around robbing every item I could
upper ginkgo
Dios bear thing helps when you are dumb and new to the game lol
It's how I beat the game on the normal difficulty for the first time
warm bridge
Got the game 3 days ago, has the only log I still need after 500 hours 
severe chasm
Corpsebloom epic
upper ginkgo
severe chasm
Good item
shy zealot
yeah i need 5? more logs, two worms, boss, aurelionite, and the wisp
upper ginkgo
I just shot and killed what ever my lighting let me
My eyes were dying lmao, so much lightning
shy zealot
something i recommend cryptic, is try to discover the games few secrets on your own, they're way more worthwhile if you make discoveries (IMO
upper ginkgo
I have found a few hidden areas
Like the gilded world with the big golden golem
shy zealot
i like that place, always nice to get there
upper ginkgo
Yeah, I clapped the boss in 1 second with the lightning strikes lmao
Man got vaporized
Most enemies that survived my normal gun would have around 100× bleeding
Bleeding damage is way too good
vale mesa
upper ginkgo
Got the game 3 days ago, has the only log I still need after 500 hours <:Clover:...
I killed 5 of the over loading worms
raw hemlock
How tall are the survivors?
broken ginkgo
How tall are the survivors?
vale mesa
acrid is tall
severe chasm
Still amazes me how insanely big Rex is
unreal sundial
Engi could beat a bitch up
damn
This further empowers my theory that were he to have the loader harness he could be a god
whole lotus
en
upper ginkgo
So I unlocked the thing I wanted
And I did this alter thing which took all my stuff and changed it to something else
I got 56 syringes and 21 jars that make things explode on death
Never have I seen a sight such as destroying an entire field by killing one guy
dull ingot
lol yeah that shrine of order can be fun eh
raw hemlock
Is there a fire rate limit?
rapid bay
i don't think so but at some point it just stops mattering
raven lichen
cant fire faster than 1 animation per frame, so like rebar is 2 frames, 1 to shoot and 1 to reload
floral forge
How tall are the survivors?
floral forge
cant fire faster than 1 animation per frame, so like rebar is 2 frames, 1 to sho...
would having a higher framerate give more attacks? or is it an engine thing
raven lichen
nah its engine, the display framerate and backend tickrate are separated in almost all modern games, so higher/lower FPS mostly just affects how the user interprets responses
so i guess technically tickrate is the correct term, but most use framerate since its familiar
RoR2 is 60hz, so 60 updates a second. 16.6ms per update
onyx lava
has anyone done like a dramatic reading of the logbook entries? i feel like that could be so good
frosty flax
anyone has flurry dps formula on hand? I believe it should be ((300+300*crit%)+crit%)*0.76923076923 and that matches wiki at 100% crit but everything lower is different and I wonder if wiki is correct or not
merry karma
@tired axle ?
tired axle
Uh, gimme a sec
would it be 300 * (1 + 0.03 * crit chance) / 1.3?
so, uh, this is the formula charlie used in her spreadsheet
it gets the same dps as my formula, no idea why it's that complicated
tired axle
anyone has flurry dps formula on hand? I believe it should be `((300+300*crit%)+...
so, i guess you can use either of the above
frosty flax
my question is, what is that 0.03?
tired axle
at 0% crit it deals 100% damage, at 100% crit it deals 400% damage, so every point of crit increases the damage by 3%
frosty flax
ic although I still can't find the mistake in my formula
raven lichen
Listen i didn't say i always find the easiest solution 😔
But actually it used to be 2 separate columns, i just ended up adding em together
So one is the avg from not crit and the other is for crit, and added together is the total expected
Also i seem to remember the proc dps being annoying.
tired axle
wouldn't it just be dps * proc coef?
raven lichen
Perhaps, I wanted to do atg per individual hit though since this was one of the first sheets i put together
So a lot of our knowledge on proc stuff came later, this was part of the stuff that led me to those conclusions aha
tired axle
i see
frosty flax
can I get access to that table or at least see it in its fullest?
raven lichen
I am not at my pc rn but yes
raven lichen
can I get access to that table or at least see it in its fullest?
Almost forgot but here it is
merry karma
good mods 😎
frosty flax
thanks
full gale
Flurry the best
tired axle
heresy
high torrent
anyways, what was the old formula for crowbar?
full gale
Yes Heresy os also an alternative, good job Withor
tired axle
anyways, what was the old formula for crowbar?
wdym?
frosty flax
50 + 50 per stack
tired axle
just damage * 1.5 (+ 0.5 per stack) if the target is above 90% health
high torrent
oh, so this how was it buffed, for some reason i thought that's 150% for first stack
actually im not wrong, hit deals 150% of original lol, now it's 175%, dummy i am
outer swallow
if you have high attack speed then new heresy 4th ability is kind of boss?
summer terrace
indeed
merry karma
hi bazz
outer swallow
hi frog
neat relic
Chillin with Newt
summer terrace
vergil
dusty glade
virgin
hallow slate
gd2 🤨
tired axle
gd3
swift badge
Why does Enforcer wield so much power
floral forge
Chillin with Newt
okay virgil
swift badge
Literally just..
Insert both Mithrix and Enforcer into that last cutscene with the Sparda brothers
floral forge
omfg yes
swift badge
"Hey Enforcer, your item farming days are over"
"If you want them, then you'll have to take them."
scraaaape
zealous ridge
I completely forgot that Enforcer existed until I was looking through the RoR1 item logs the other day
shy palm
...I guess I don't know what I was expecting from two Focused Convergences😂
tranquil ridgeBOT
Fkrbailtt#6859 was banned
raven lichen
Knock Knock GD2
I Made a Random Item Generator because it was funny. I think its not broken and that most of the grammar makes sense?
Either way have fun
hollow pilot
b a c k s t a b
raven lichen
Knock Knock GD2
I Made a Random Item Generator because it was funny. I think its...
Fixes + More text
lapis sparrow
any truers
next cobalt
Let's see here, items I need to collect: corpsebloom, irradiant pearl and the lunar equippable that looks like a little dude
enviroment logs: infernal abyss, siren's call
monster logs: ||mythrix||, grandparent and overloading worm
next cobalt
it's definetly ||mythrix|| I'm most worried about, not only do I suck at fighting him, he has to DROP A LOG
high torrent
he can drop a log after any phase
hardy plank
I have done it
nice
hardy plank
it's definetly ||mythrix|| I'm most worried about, not only do I suck at fightin...
i got ||mithrix's|| log first time i killed him
next cobalt
you're so lucky, haven't seen it once
next cobalt
and I've fought him... 104 times (88 for each eclipse, 4 times to unlock captain's and bandit's alt attack (that was hell before), 2 times for specific hard mode unlocks, 1 as 
, the first time and lunar farming)
hardy plank
although the ||mithrix|| log was a good reward for escaping softlock island
hardy plank
and I've fought him... 104 times (88 for each eclipse, 4 times to unlock captain...
pain
hybrid vine
i got the mithrix log after a 3 hour run where i just owned his silly bitch face with rex.
lapis sparrow
how is acrid
lapis sparrow
because personally i dont like him but everyone says hes really good just wanted to know if i was messing something up
high torrent
u just not used to different playstyle, that's fine
also boi has big spherical hitbox, hard to dodge golem lasers with this
slender sigil
lemurian
high torrent
i can only play as 11
take 4 different heresy items as anyone
light summit
shiiit 4? i dont even use 1
hardy plank
the heresy items are good
high torrent
hardy plank
high torrent
<:Mercenary:566259565927202819> <:Essence_of_Heresy:826682661710856242>
actually based if you don't have slicing winds yet
hardy plank
actually based if you don't have slicing winds yet
tru but as a merc main with sw it makes me feel pain
lapis cosmos
<:Mercenary:566259565927202819> <:Essence_of_Heresy:826682661710856242>
the only thing worse than hunterness
actually maybe strides instead to really just remove all damage from the kit
arctic dagger
Is game-discussion 2 better than 1?
broken ginkgo
yes
tired axle
@warm nacelle so i used this random item generator to make a dev item for you, what are your thoughts?
rare heart
That's just the normal crowdfunder
hybrid vault
yeah but I want the item generator to generate the name
dull kindle
<:Captain:742608567390961774><:Visions_of_Heresy:826682469573984276>
Captain challenge:
Collect Visions and Strides
Beat game
Why? Because masochism
tacit phoenix
Captain challenge:
Collect Visions and Strides
Beat game
Why? Because masochism
Just also pick up hooks and essence ez.
floral forge
Captain challenge:
Collect Visions and Strides
Beat game
Why? Because masochism
giving captain actual movement?
yes please
tiny cipher
Can you unlock anything in utility?
Because I unlocked a 2nd Utility ability with mercenary and I want to know if other charcters can do the same
hybrid vine
captain is the best hero to grab all the heresy items on anyways
floral forge
Captain challenge:
Collect Visions and Strides
Beat game
Why? Because masochism
also I have something better
Engineer with Essence of Heresy
keen knoll
did we? i cant go in gd1 lol
dapper harness
oh so it wasnt me
lime forge
got em coach
keen knoll
ty
floral forge
@lime forge I love you
dapper harness
GD1 is dead...
lime forge
I love you too, frozen pancake
dull ingot
ayo who this last survivor
secret
keen knoll
ayo who this last survivor
joe
wraith carbon
hey so what red items are good on bandit
floral forge
hey so what red items are good on bandit
hardlight
low burrow
zenith ravine
Mult and loader should b higher
wind cypress
Is this like a meme reverse teirlist?
high torrent
yeah i agree, but i would change places for captain and mul-t
oblique moon
the only tier list you'll ever need
dull ingot
the only tier list you'll ever need
how could you do best girl like that
high torrent
yeah, my best girl rex😔
oblique moon
someone had to be the sacrificial goat
high torrent
arti and acrid on top warms my heart tho
anyways, ugly ass tierlist cuz i cant bother myself to find a good one
i don't like it in any way, spinning it in every direction
merry karma
is that the woolie tierlist
high torrent
i mean not everyone enjoy the same pace and being stupidly overpowered
left ruin
the only tier list you'll ever need
i see what you did there.. XD
oblique moon
ba dum tss
dull ingot
the only tier list you'll ever need
Huntress
starts with F
high torrent
funtress
dull ingot
I was thinking female, but yeah that works too
merry karma
<@&559786374228738069> spamming this in all channels
tranquil ridgeBOT
ブライアント#4127 was banned
forest crag
broken ginkgo
silver elbow
dull ingot
anyways, ugly ass tierlist cuz i cant bother myself to find a good one
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/File:Acrid.png#/media/File:Acrid.png
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/File:Artificer.png#/media/File:Artificer.png
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/File:Bandit.png#/media/File:Bandit.png
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/File:Captain.png#/media/File:Captain.png
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/File:Huntress.png#/media/File:Huntress.png
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/File:Heretic.png#/media/File:Heretic.png
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/File:Engineer.png#/media/File:Engineer.png
https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/File:Commando.png#/media/File:Commando.png
got u fam
high torrent
man chill
dull ingot
it's strange that some are bigger than others, but eh
close enough
high torrent
i can't even make tierlists by myself, i aint making myself a twitter account lol
high torrent
very cool thankss
eternal wren
wind hearth
Any character is S tier as long as youre enjoying yourself <3
wind hearth
I wasnt making a point
toxic moss
mossy garden
tmw acrid is the most consistent one
i seriously dont understand what woolie bases his lists on
if its a list of going to mithrix stage 6, acrid wins
high torrent
he bases the list off crudfundah
high torrent
it's just a way to proc poison from the distance, which pandemic does better
literally no damage for a 2.5 cd
simple oyster
do you handle flying mobs with the other spit
high torrent
or just use it twice
mossy garden
or that, yeah
plus frenzied leap gives cd back for hitting them so with practice wisps are the least of your worries
the most dangerous enemies for acrid are ones with good melee attacks like jellyfish or vultures
merry karma
also frenzied can be insane against groups
mossy garden
yeah
but due to a funny wooliepinion nobody takes it
i dont value the poison from the base leap at all
R does that just fine and bite already has aoe poison
simple oyster
But how do you apply the blight to wisps. Like how do you deal with them. I’ve never played Acrid with blight and bite seriously.
spice fulcrum
Got 2 red items on stage 1, is this what they call "dream luck"?
mossy garden
But how do you apply the blight to wisps. Like how do you deal with them. I’ve n...
the r
toxic moss
Got 2 red items on stage 1, is this what they call "dream luck"?
Streamer loot
spice fulcrum
I guess I'm secretly a streamer.
And I found a crit glasses printer on stage 3.
Maybe I really should become a streamer.
And just found another red item 
What is going on here
mossy garden
poison vs blight is really personal preference
blight makes wisps a joke but poison is endlessly better for anything past stage 8
also poison murders mithrix whereas blight does not
silver elbow
man, sure is a great feeling going for captain's alt utility and then killing mithrix twice with the wrong skill 
merry karma
trying to roll for this sus sus amogus, 3.4 billion times a second, will update once it eventually rolls it
high torrent
trying to roll for this sus sus amogus, 3.4 billion times a second, will update ...
nice
tired axle
huntress bad
tired axle
you can find all the unlocks in the logbook under challenges
solid maple
oo okey
spice fulcrum
Had my first god run. It's time to finish it. It was fun.
gray gazelle
Is rainstorm randy gonna graduate to a monsoon mandy?
spice fulcrum
wat
spice fulcrum
I just died lol.
gray gazelle
:PepeHands:
gray gazelle
Mithrix bery chunky at high stages
spice fulcrum
Oh well. It was fun.
Rainstorm difficulty is fine for me. No need to play on monsoon.
gray gazelle
I usually just ramp-camp if I'm fighting mithrix (last stage specifically) on high stage count
The items you have make him rly strong
spice fulcrum
I was so used to it being my beetle guard so I didn't realize I was going to get damaged.
Fun run though. Fun character. First time playing him.
gray gazelle
imo it's just optimal to play on monsoon, since the director in charge of giving me items has more credits thus I get more yummy chest-opening dopamine
Rex big cool
merry karma
straight upgrade
lapis cosmos
Reminder that mercenary good.
lapis cosmos
straight upgrade
Don’t the turrets also get visions
merry karma
yes
tired axle
turret dps is 200%, visions dps is ~400%
copper lagoon
when is the console going to get the update
latent flame
Had my first god run. It's time to finish it. It was fun.
very interesting run, i had a god run like that to about 3 minutes ago, which was ended after i stood still for 3 seconds
at least i got squid polyps
shy vale
atleast you got quad chronobauble
latent flame
i only got 1
gray gazelle
@mossy garden As a long time ranged/poison acrid user, but with experience, I can understand the idea of melee/blight. But after thinking about it, how are you supposed to kill mithrix?
gray gazelle
So blight is just not viable if you're trying to go mithrix?
mossy garden
yup
gray gazelle
That's what I thought
mossy garden
blight outshines poison for stage 1-3
after that its only good for wisps and lems
and after stage 8 its worthless
so for obliteration i'd say blight is better
also take bite and frenzied leap
gray gazelle
Interesting
full magnet
Bite sucks ass
mossy garden
to bite's 310 - 900+
mossy garden
we playing the same character?
tired axle
i think that means you're bad
full magnet
I don't have this problem on any other character (except engineer with no mobility)
And I even play a melee character ffs
tired axle
ah yes, i suck at this survivor, so it's impossible to play him well
mossy garden
sounds like a wooliepinion
full magnet
I can play ranged well
mossy garden
its more than viable
mossy garden
get purity
full magnet
Can I play him without purity?
mossy garden
focus defense over anything else for stage 1-3 and get a gasoline
full magnet
I don't really like the item
hybrid vault
you can, but you shouldn't
mossy garden
^
full magnet
Darn
hybrid vault
acrid doesn't really use procs anyways
full magnet
Fair
hybrid vault
he's the least proc-heavy character
mossy garden
purity removes bites cooldown
tired axle
i'd also recommend tonic since it quadruples bite's regen
mossy garden
also regenerative is still bugged since it was released
full magnet
Purity is fair
mossy garden
and it makes me mad
tired axle
i don't think it's a bug
hybrid vault
corpsebloom is good with acrid's regenerative
tired axle
seems like the description is just wrong
full magnet
I feel like I just gets hit too much and can't really dodge things
tired axle
it says 10% over 0.5s, but it's 10%/s for 0.5s
mossy garden
yes
tired axle
it does what the code says it should do, the description just doesn't line up
mossy garden
and considering it does stack but unlike fresh meat it doesnt even out the duration
its just confusing
full magnet
So how do I survive stage 1 without getting my ass kicked
Can't really get purity instnatly
tired axle
wait, i wouldn't recommend alt leap
mossy garden
acrid's m1 and m2 keep him alive
mossy garden
i would, poison on base is kinda worthless
tired axle
you need to hit at least 3 enemies to get more damage out of it than with caustic
mossy garden
but the cdr
full magnet
Ok so should I do the sprint reset thing or no
shy vale
The third hit gives a little bit of healing
mossy garden
not necessarily
tired axle
Ok so should I do the sprint reset thing or no
wouldn't recommend it
tired axle
just do a full m1 combo and then use bite at the end for maximum regen
mossy garden
mhm
an m1 combo takes about 2 seconds to execute
so fitting bite in afterwards is an extension
tired axle
also works well since you'd normally have a bit of end lag after the combo
hollow thunder
uh is it too much if you have 3 stacks of the armor plate
shy vale
not at all
that makes you practically invincible to chip
since you take -15 less damage
mossy garden
planula moment
hollow thunder
its too much for my own good
shy vale
grab a transcendence and a visions of heresy
mossy garden
isnt it just bungus
hollow thunder
i just can't be killed
the reason why its drizzle is because its my "second" engi run
since my first engi run got ended by a blackout
full magnet
Yo now that I can play the character melee acrid is pretty cool
Range is still better though
fluid notch
Meleecrid bestcrid
deft raptor
planula moment
planula moment 😳
severe chasm
Range is still better though
Melee is better because focus crystal exists and buffs your poison/blight damage
Also 
multiplies regenerative by 300%
Its absurd lol
full magnet
Early or Lategame?
severe chasm
Both really
severe chasm
Blight outdamages poison until like halfway through the 2nd loop
And that's without and focus crystals/AP rounds and deathmark
full magnet
It really doesn't
Blight is only good first 2 loop
You can't keep proccing blight on everything with a melee character
severe chasm
Can I see your source on this?
severe chasm
You can't keep proccing blight on everything with a melee character
Why not?
raven lichen
tbf after 2 loops youve got like 100+ items easily aha
full magnet
Yeah
hybrid vault
Melee is always more fun than ranged in every video game
severe chasm
Melee is always more fun than ranged in every video game
I mostly mean numbers wise lol
full magnet
I think melee is more fun when you're alive
hybrid vault
I know
full magnet
But the problem is that you die as melee
hybrid vault
Lol no
severe chasm
Not when one bite heals you an insane amount
You can attach yourself to blazing elites and just heal through the damage lmao
Its incredible
hybrid vault
All melee characters have a method of survival: merc has iframes and mobility, loader is loader, Acrid has regen, and saw mul-t has tankiness
full magnet
I know Acrid is bad at proccing but I just like having items
severe chasm
Not to mention the hitbox on bit is crazy
raven lichen
bit
hybrid vault
It does turn the enemies to bits, so he's not wrong
high torrent
it's crazy, but still can't hit a vagrant
hybrid vault
Vagrant tentacles have a hitbox
hybrid vault
Acrid also has the beeg jump
full magnet
I just like proccing things
severe chasm
Dude 1.0 Acrid jump is wild
full magnet
Melee doesn't do that very well especially since purity is almost required
hybrid vault
I still miss caustic sludge though
severe chasm
I just like proccing things
Acrid is all about just buffing the heck out of your passive. So sadly procs kinda take a backseat
full magnet
Yes but you can take visions of heresy
severe chasm
Other characters are really good at proccing things so it's not a huge deal
full magnet
But I like doggo
severe chasm
Yes but you can take visions of heresy
You can take it with melee too. Since all of your melee is just using bite
And you dont need purity
full magnet
It's worse with purity
severe chasm
Just tonic really
raven lichen
dog is fun
It is both cool and sad that half of his damage doesnt use proc coeff tho
full magnet
Tonic is lame lets be real
hybrid vault
Acrid loves his lunars
severe chasm
: (
full magnet
It's better to run capacitor or crowdfunder late game anyways
lapis cosmos
not necessarily
severe chasm
I can see that. Tonic is wild but not as insane as funder or capacitor
Then again double base damage is just gross with the right set up
merry karma
what about helwire planula rap whatever combo thing
severe chasm
what about helwire planula rap whatever combo thing
Hellfire is also one of the better equipments
full magnet
Hellfire is pretty cool
hybrid vault
I ❤️ helwire
severe chasm
They keep buffing it indirectly lmao
raven lichen
tonic could probably outdo capacitor, plus it has survival stuff
Its just hard to weight it with the chance for stat downs and inability to pivot later
merry karma
how do the top equipments compare
helfire vs crowdfunder vs capacitor vs helfire with different combos vs capacitor with different combos vs tonic
raven lichen
good question
full magnet
Crowdfunder is trash early game so it's defnitely worse than the others
hybrid vault
Oh no...
full magnet
Hellfire also isn't great without regen
severe chasm
Crowdfunder is used sparingly until stage 3 then you can use it a bunch if you want
hybrid vault
Oh boy...
full magnet
Capacitor is good any stage of the game really
hybrid vault
Helfire is always good
full magnet
The thing is helfire just kills you if you have gesture in early game
severe chasm
how do the top equipments compare
helfire vs crowdfunder vs capacitor vs helfire...
The cool thing about this game is that there context is super important
There are runs where all of them are best in slot
hybrid vault
The thing is helfire just kills you if you have gesture in early game
So then don't take gesture
lapis cosmos
but all crowdfunder fans think ror2 is in a vaccum
full magnet
Probably yeah
severe chasm
The thing is helfire just kills you if you have gesture in early game
This is true
lapis cosmos
hybrid vault
Gesture with helfire is generally not a great idea unless you can outheal it
lapis cosmos
clearly
full magnet
Taking gesture has more potential benefit than taking hellfire imo
severe chasm
but all crowdfunder fans think ror2 is in a vaccum
The man said that while making his "power of effect in a vacuum" tierlist lmao
full magnet
So I'd rather take gesture with no hellfire than take hellfire with no gesture
lapis cosmos
meh
severe chasm
Taking gesture has more potential benefit than taking hellfire imo
Only issue with gesture is that you cant take crowdfunder lmao
And saw
full magnet
Yes
hybrid vault
Gesture is also bad with egg and chrysalis
full magnet
I think it's still worth it
raven lichen
yea idk if id take gesture with no good equipment when i could take helfire now and be stronger for it
hybrid vault
Gesture vase is also lame
high torrent
its funny
hybrid vault
It is funny
severe chasm
Funny
full magnet
Honestly if you're not going hard in a hellfire build I would just take gesture anytime
severe chasm
Gesture mad broken
full magnet
Too much potential for the downsides
hybrid vault
I almost always take helfire because it's a very easy to obtain equipment without much of a usage cost
severe chasm
Hellfire doesn't do much damage to you and does around 1 per tick with just one plate
full magnet
Hellfire is cool but I don't really think it saves a run or anything
severe chasm
But without a way to heal I will never take gesture+tincture
full magnet
If I was struggling I would just take shaped glass
hybrid vault
Although if I find something better, I'll replace it
full magnet
If I have no proc I would get purity
hybrid vault
Also, gesture MELTS tp bosses
severe chasm
I never take glass If i am struggling. There are so many good items in this game now that you dont really need to half your health
raven lichen
glass seems way more likely to kill you than helfire
full magnet
But I'm not gonna buy the lunar portal every run just to rush a hellfire if you know what I mean
severe chasm
Rushing hellfire stage one might ctually be meta lmao
hybrid vault
I don't take the lunar portal for helfire, I take helfire because I take the lunar portal
severe chasm
I'm considering how good it is and you just kinda melt bosses until stage 4 just by pressing q
severe chasm
I don't take the lunar portal for helfire, I take helfire because I take the lun...
That is also true
lapis cosmos
shaped glass more like meme
severe chasm
24x 5% max health is a lot of damage
hybrid vault
Shaped glass has no downside if you don't die
full magnet
Shaped glass is pretty good still I like taking it
severe chasm
Shaped glass has no downside if you don't die
True!
raven lichen
24x 5% max health is a lot of damage
120% max health
severe chasm
If you like taking it go ahead gamer
severe chasm
120% max health
Yup
hybrid vault
Still waiting for unshaped glass
severe chasm
Its so gross when you put it into context like that
tacit phoenix
Funny how numbers adjust when there's no space on the buff/debuff thing.
severe chasm
Still waiting for unshaped glass
LMAO it's just like a pile of glass
full magnet
Lol idgaf about stats I just measure the effectiveness of items by relatives
hybrid vault
Helfire on heretic is "balanced"
merry karma
bruh just believe the community that put hundreds of hours into testing
lapis cosmos
hellfire on mul t kinda pog
lapis cosmos
probably
severe chasm
DANG IT NOW I WANT TO PLAY MORE HERETIC
hybrid vault
Heretic, my favorite huntress buff
raven lichen
528 dps lvl 1
Which is 4400%/s in commandos base damage lmao
severe chasm
Wtf lmao
hybrid vault
528 dps lvl 1
Which is 4400%/s in commandos base damage lmao
Holy shit that's based
severe chasm
God I love this game
hybrid vault
Same bro
severe chasm
what level does it do 14400%
lapis cosmos
is strides loader just playing loader like a traditional melee
severe chasm
is strides loader just playing loader like a traditional melee
Yep
hybrid vault
Strides loader is ror1 loader
lapis cosmos
seems pretty pog
severe chasm
Strides loader is ror1 loader
Pretty much yeah
hybrid vault
For the memes
lapis cosmos
it's more of a meme
merry karma
it's fun with alt special
lapis cosmos
to make the character different
severe chasm
It's a meme but it's a viable meme lmao
hybrid vault
Yeah, it can work with alt special
severe chasm
New special made it way better
lapis cosmos
it's not like it's bad either
severe chasm
Also strides conserves all momentum so you can slingshot across entire maps and skip commencement in just one swing lmao
hybrid vault
Now, 
is another story
lapis cosmos
I have a trip out of state but when I get home I'm gonna try that out
lapis cosmos
ty
full magnet
Well if people take strides on loader strides is good on everyone really
merry karma
dont check gd1 
lapis cosmos
I mean
strides is objectively a huge downgrade on loader, but people take it because it makes you play her in a different way
tacit phoenix
gd1 and gd2 look like very different servers
severe chasm
Strides is pretty good.
hybrid vault
is honestly worse imo
severe chasm
gd1 and gd2 look like very different servers
They are lmao
lapis cosmos
strides merc is ugh
severe chasm
Ok but guys hear me out
hybrid vault
severe chasm
Strides+eviscerate with rising thunder and visions of heresy
hybrid vault
And purity
severe chasm
Lmao
lapis cosmos
yknow the sad thing
hybrid vault
So you can get tons of iframes
severe chasm
That post is so funny
full magnet
Stides merc is definitely worse
hybrid vault
Then take disposable missile launcher and tesla to kill everything while you're invincible
severe chasm
Ruin stacks duration and cooldown so only stack it with light out 😏
I've said that so many times and some are like "oh ok thanks" and dont realize what I just said
full magnet
Honestly with merc all heresy items are bad imo
severe chasm
I agree
hybrid vault
And take backup mags and soldiers syringe for rising thunder so you can take good greens and not need hopoo feather
severe chasm
And take backup mags and soldiers syringe for rising thunder so you can take goo...
God
hybrid vault
Merc is designed around using all of his abilities
merry karma
And take backup mags and soldiers syringe for rising thunder so you can take goo...
WHY
full magnet
Rising thunder 🤮
merry karma
YES
hybrid vault
Rising thunder 🤮
I agree
hybrid vault
Like evis
full magnet
Evis is pretty good
merry karma
oh come on
severe chasm
Running evis is more comfortable
Evis is fun and the extra dash is blissful