gd2-nullified

[fiery totem]

However rebar has range

[zealous ridge]

I meant how much retooling improves DPS

[fiery totem]

I’m not really saying it’s better I just found it interesting

And it’s really hard to time

[zealous ridge]

I map Special to m3

so mashing it is pretty easy

I should try a total-damage proc build with it

[fiery totem]

No I mean timing the release of the nailgun

[zealous ridge]

ah

[burnt cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438798022340771850/830284713330606090/Risk_of_Rain_2_2021-04-10_00-33-49_Trim.mp4

bruh WHAT

this battle really sucks

[zealous ridge]

looks like you jumped into one of the death pillar

ideally you should avoid doing that

[burnt cedar]

I was only playing Drizzle for the stupid Smushed achievement

It's really stupid to give a boss a one-hit kill move

especially when it takes 45 minutes to get to them

[zealous ridge]

the one hit kill move has a pretty notable auditory windup

[north forge]

Yo what is the name for the mod that is harder than dilluvian ?

[slender zenith]

Takes 25 of you don’t collect every chest

[rare heart]

Heresy

[primal stump]

In a heartbeat

[lapis cosmos]

merc is like better now and more fun

[primal stump]

I bet you play on drizzle XD

[latent field]

uh oh is that the discord crash gif again

[deft breach]

so have the merc mains decided if slicing winds or eviscerate is better?

[latent field]

slicing winds is better

[deft breach]

thought so :^)

i went back to evisc for a game and i couldnt stop thinking about why eviscerate is better in every situation beyond longevity

[pine oxide]

Eviscerate got a whole lot more viable with the new utility though

[latent field]

is it though?

i still like evisc im willing to use it but every time I use slicing winds I kinda never wanna go back

[deft breach]

i just feel like eviscerate + default utility is just impossible to out dps late game

er

slicing winds*

[pine oxide]

Rising thunder
Blinding assault
Eviscerate
That is the worst loadout you could run tbh

No damage

[deft breach]

every time i use slicing winds i just kinda end up hating my lack of ability to deal with wisps effectively early game

[latent field]

isnt sw better with new dash?

[lapis cosmos]

??? I mean the knurl is a crutch sooo

[pine oxide]

SW with the new dash gives you nutty dps

[lapis cosmos]

SW works well with both

[deft breach]

wait how is slicing winds BA eviscerate the worst?

[lapis cosmos]

you have to learn a combo

[pine oxide]

Though you are pushing it with the danger

[lapis cosmos]

but the combo is good

[deft breach]

i feel like expose build just makes it where you have no cooldowns

which i like

but blinding assault is too consistent imo

[lapis cosmos]

FA + SW is my favorite merc build

[pine oxide]

Rising thunder is overall worse for dps as it doesn't work nearly as well with cooldown and backup mags
Blinding assault is safer but over less damage than FA
Eviscerate is way less damage than the slicing winds

Blinding assault and eviscerate are both viable but they don't synergize well with each other

[lapis cosmos]

I mean you can cancel blinding assault with another move but not FA

[deft breach]

yeah the ability to combo BA with m2 is super useful

it increases dps so much

[lapis cosmos]

whirlwind 2 gud

[pine oxide]

True
I'd imagine cancelling blinding assault with rising thunder would be pretty sweet actually

[lapis cosmos]

trimping kinda pog

trimping with bands

[pine oxide]

Whirlwind is too much to give up. Though
Love trimping

Trimping with headset

[lapis cosmos]

sorry I mean headstomp

not bands

[deft breach]

the only problem i have with merc rn is getting going, staying airborne with slicing winds's global cooldown always makes me drop to the ground

maybe i need to use SW into WW to stay airborne?

[lapis cosmos]

which utility

[deft breach]

BA

i use SW when BA is on cd so i can maximize profit

[lapis cosmos]

whilrwind bounces you up

[pine oxide]

You don't need to stay airborne necessarily
Try using m1 extensions with BA though

[deft breach]

yeah im aware of all the m1 cancels

[pine oxide]

Just use m1 extensions in general lol

Absolutely nutty

[deft breach]

i usually try to do that until my attack speed gets out of control

[pine oxide]

You can use it to proc exposed with FA
Wild

[lapis cosmos]

I absolutely like FA more than BA

[deft breach]

is it more damage on paper?

[pine oxide]

I haven't switched off FA since the update lol

[deft breach]

i havent used it yet

[pine oxide]

Idk the dps numbers or anything but with m1 extensions it is ridiculous

[lapis cosmos]

on BA you basically have to run slicing winds

[pine oxide]

So many exposed procs

[lapis cosmos]

on FA you can run evis as well

[pine oxide]

That's what I've been doing
It might be FA carrying that hard but it works nonetheless

[lapis cosmos]

def my favorite new skill in the update

second is rex's

[deft breach]

so the first few levels where i dont have that much attack speed should the combo just be FA- SW- WW- m1 x3 - WW?

[lapis cosmos]

which seems very interesting

[deft breach]

like should that be my rotation sort of?

[pine oxide]

I'd set up a 3rd M1 to expose with the initial hit of FA

[deft breach]

against vagrant i have trouble sticking on them in the air if i cant get on top of it outright

also if FA exposes an enemy that was exposed by your m1 extension, does it proc the first one to replace it?

[pine oxide]

Yes

[deft breach]

oooh

thats good

[pine oxide]

It's a meaty hit

700% plus the expose

[deft breach]

yeah

[lapis cosmos]

all that for a titanic knurl less hp and regen

[deft breach]

but yeah when i was using BA, i usually used SW right after to start getting as many expose procs as possible to get BA back, but i guess i need to use WW to not fall out of the sky, because SW seems to put a global cd where you cant use m1

until your attack speed gets good at least

[lapis cosmos]

exposed is such a good mechanic why would you want to trade it away

for a knurl

[deft breach]

mk trying FA, i guess ill just cry as the wisps bully me

[mental sigil]

.

[open loom]

commando is nutty once you get the build

[severe karma]

would you guys have a link for a build to take down mousson Mithrix with captain ? (not sacrificing a smooth run tho) i'll take the time it takes to get there

[heavy lintel]

Just use command and sacrifice and spend all your time in stage one to stack TT

[severe karma]

would you mind explaining me waht are "command" , "sacrifice" and TT ?

[heavy lintel]

Artifacts

And tt is tougher times

[severe karma]

oh ok ! thanks 🙂

[heavy lintel]

If you want I could help depending on platform

[clear raven]

question, what's the best way to get bandit's alt secondary?

[severe karma]

is there something to unlock here ?

[severe karma]

i'm on pc (sorry didn't see your message) i'm fine tbh, just need some infos and i'll manage to get there with my friends 🙂 thanks for proposing tho

[heavy lintel]

There is a garenteed red and Rex

[severe karma]

oh ! whats a rex tho ?

[heavy lintel]

A character

The half plant half robot

[severe karma]

oh ! great, ty

[viral flare]

I just realized, that i missing a stage in my logs. Did they add a new stage or is it a bug?

[sand garden]

Bug I believe

[viral flare]

ah ok thanks

Also is the irradiated pearl chance still bugged?

[polar anvil]

the chance was never bugged
the drop from it is bugged rn as pools dont change their drops now
@viral flare

[viral flare]

ah ok thanks

[forest kelp]

If you're talking about the 20 stacks of Hemorrhage, I did it by using Command and getting 20 Backup Mags then spamming it on the back of a Grandparent.

[lapis cosmos]

I spammed parities but that is prob better lol

[forest kelp]

It's the only enemy I found that could survive long enough to get 20 stacks. Even the bosses were dying before I got 20 stacks applied.

[lapis cosmos]

I got mine on like a stone Titan so

[forest kelp]

Also, I was impressed with Bandit and I felt Desperado was a bit underwhelming compared to Lights Out until I picked up Brainstalks and discovered nirvana.

[lapis cosmos]

Purity*

[polar anvil]

three purity despe

[forest kelp]

Oh, I have gotten two purities on Bandit, but Brainstalks actually has 0 cooldown on Desperado, while double Purity still has 1.

[lapis cosmos]

I mean beianstalks is a red

[polar anvil]

there is no true 0 cd

min is 0.5s

[forest kelp]

It is. But when you land it it's like going into a neon coated fever dream.

[deep pecan]

I used Purity and backstabbed the AWU 20 times in a row but this is way more work than the backup mag thing and I wouldn't advise doing it.

[polar anvil]

well "more work" is subjective
it has 5s cd right?

[deep pecan]

Right clicking 20 times in a row is probably easier than staying on the AWU long enough to get 20 stacks on it.

[polar anvil]

oh wait you meant stabbing awu as more work
yeah lol dont do that

[mellow mango]

Uh

[deep pecan]

And you kinda need command either way, either to collect 19 mags or to collect enough feathers to stay within reach.

[polar anvil]

get purities

[deep pecan]

I did that too, purities won't do anything for you if you physically cannot reach the AWU's back.

[polar anvil]

then dont do it on awu

also you have uh flight

from your shift+slice combo

[deep pecan]

Yes, that was the advice I was giving.

honestly the AWU fight was kind of fun tho

[forest kelp]

Also I just unlocked Purity yesterday so it wasn't an option for me at the time. Only way I got it before was playing with a friend who had it unlocked. But now that I do, I can use the Mul-T build I put together which was so absurd it is probably my favorite thing ever.

[bright palm]

I think lights out can bypass native cooldown so long as you hit something and kill it

[polar anvil]

yheah

but that means not using despe with purity
why live

[forest kelp]

Power Mode Mul-T, twin scrap launchers, Purity, 10 soldier's syringes, 10 lens makers glasses, predatory instincts, 6 bustling Fungus, 5 armor plates, Jade Elephant, 6 Fuel Cells and Gesture of the Drowned.

Literally the epitome of "No, YOU move."

Oh and I threw some Razor Wire in there just to laugh at the mushrooms that tried to drop their poison on me. Like, "You're just making it worse for yourself."

[polar anvil]

i wonder how muich exactly DR is that

97%? 95%?

[forest kelp]

It was enough to the point where I could sit between two Stone Titans and 3 Elder Lemurians and laugh at them as they tried to not get utterly obliterated with twin rockets firing as fast as a Commando on crack.

Without having to move.

[polar anvil]

powermode
hooooopoooo gameeees

[forest kelp]

With purity there is literally no reload time on Scrap Launcher. So if you get two of them and just ramp your firing speed you literally just machine gun dual rockets.

[polar anvil]

ahh wrong

[forest kelp]

And for extra flavor add in a out of spite.

[polar anvil]

one purity is enough, first of all
secondly 0.5s internal cd

[forest kelp]

Yeah.

You only need 1.

When I said two I meant two scrap launchers.

Sorry, I worded that awkwardly.

[marble adder]

ive been told to go here, my logbook is completely empty, ive tried deleting profile, making a new one, and reinstalling the game as well as validating files, nothing's working

[severe karma]

what ledengary would you guys prioritize as for captain ?

[polar anvil]

clover most probably

[tender dew]

sad i can go to blue portal but i have 9 lunar coins

i justr need 1 more

this is incredibly depressing

does killing lizard guy do anything

[polar anvil]

you receive eternal sadness

[mossy garden]

and you kill an innocent merchant

who doesnt fight back

[dull ingot]

pearl gaming?

waaait is the pearl a boss item?, if so this is pog

[hybrid vault]

you can use pearls in overgrown printers, yes

[dull ingot]

holy shit really?

[hybrid vault]

yes, the fact you can do that got the testing community through the dark age of testing

[dull ingot]

theres this blinking solus probe, is it like morse code or somthin?

[hybrid vault]

it's saying "updog" in morse code apparently

[dull ingot]

lmfao

i dashed into the AWU and he wont stop spinning, somone help him

hes at 100 health now too

[hybrid vault]

did he hit a wall?

[dull ingot]

i rammed em and a vagrant

[hybrid vault]

that's called slamming

[dull ingot]

also with 100% uptime bandolier can i eviscerate an enemy and just eviscerate another there after?

[hybrid vault]

basically, if you end up in the hitbox of a flying enemy after a dash, they're sent flying and take massive fall damage when they hit a surface because they have a very high air time

[hybrid vault]

yes

[dull ingot]

preon drone moment

[hybrid vault]

but why would you use evis?

[dull ingot]

i know, thats why i ram

well you see, prismatic trials are usually bullshit

there was this spite/glass one but i keep getting bullied by wisps

[mellow mango]

I-frames 😏

[dull ingot]

yeah that too

uhoh

[pure turret]

gd2

[tender dew]

loader vs bosses is hilarious

just latch on and punch tbh

[dull ingot]

yes

[slow condor]

a literal annoying mosquito
except the mosquito is the size of your palm and carries a deadly poison that kills you within seconds after the sting

[dull ingot]

gaming

[plain plinth]

yay, mountain shrines on stage 2! We should hit portal early before looting the rest of the stage so we won't have the damage or healing to beat the mountain shrine boss in a timely manner! Perfect plan! Let's hit portal on stage 3, locking my cleansing pool the moment I finally get to it despite telling them that I needed a couple seconds, just literally 2 seconds was all I needed. (Sorry, Just wanted to vent.)

[dull ingot]

this is what deppression looks like

[swift badge]

Preon Buddy is best buddy

[dull ingot]

quipment' drones have less cooldowns

so its actually better on em than me

[raw cobalt]

Yo does anyone know any good places for ror2 merch

[plain plinth]

My team thought I was crazy for spending 25 runald bands for 5 nukuhana's. Got a bungus printer on the very next stage and just used the 2 hardlights to win by doing nothing.

The resonance disk was the only random red item I found through the whole thing. The rest were from shops, warship unit, or from the void. (void was where I earned my 4 fabulous desk plants.)

[high torrent]

why its so cheap

[dull ingot]

fast

[high torrent]

[dull ingot]

and drizzle

[queen condor]

plant

[echo dagger]

Oh I noticed that awhile back actually. It still bothers me

[solar solstice]

why do they do this

[velvet cradle]

drome group hug team huddle moment

there's no "flesh" in team

[echo dagger]

I kinda like it when they do that except they do knock you outta bungus

[zealous ridge]

They need to just remove collision from them

Let em clip through the terrain

Nothing can stop them now

[pine coral]

"improved drone a.i." dude my drones have literally been standing still the past... 4 minutes now? they don't even do anything but die

my gunner drone thinks he's a turret, the poor thing

he freed himself but my healing drone still is just.... sitting there

i won't leave his side

[heavy lintel]

Famous last words

[shy palm]

i get carried off by my drones a lot when I'm using Command. little nerds will somehow get underfoot and drag me away to Providence knows where.

[tender dew]

i beat monsoon

as bandit

i went ridiculous speed and feathers, im talking like 12 speed items 8 feathers

so i could just fly through the air

[severe karma]

Really feels like 4th phase of Mitheix is the toughest... I've always gotten killed by the adds

Any tips?

[tender dew]

poggerrrrrs i got the frozen guy

[tender dew]

just unlocked 2 characters in one run

oh and bandit primary

[primal glade]

theres also no "space" either

[tender dew]

+command artifact

[pulsar cliff]

I don't think I'm ever topping that damage dealt

[tender dew]

oh shit just realized i got every character now

ive never got heretic but that doesnt count

[orchid girder]

I somehow broke void fields...

And they had dio's too.

[deep pecan]

Kin breaks void fields, it's a known issue.

I don't actually remember what the Kin icon looks like but I assume it's one of those

[final shadow]

It's the one with two prongs

[quick hinge]

Can someone explain to me why is Drill better than seed barrage?

[mellow mango]

it isnt really

[zinc kernel]

a

[rose sequoia]

Does this game have any customization?

[bright palm]

what do you mean?

[rose sequoia]

Like.

Changing the default looks of it.

[bright palm]

there are unlockable skins but you might wanna try mods

[rose sequoia]

How do I get them?

I can't mod the game.

[bright palm]

r2modman is the launcher that'll help you mod the game

https://thunderstore.io/

[rose sequoia]

I can't.

I'm on Xbox.

[bright palm]

oh

well, to unlock skins, just beat the game as the character you want the skin for on monsoon

[rose sequoia]

Monsoon?

[bright palm]

yes

obliterating counts as a win

and the game doesn't care if you use artifacts

[rose sequoia]

What is obliterating?

[bright palm]

when you reach stage 8, you can go through a celestial portal and use the monolith at the end to end the run which will count as a Fate Unknown Victory

its recorded as a different ending but it still counts as a victory

[rose sequoia]

Either will be hard as huntress right?

[bright palm]

yea

monsoon is tough but obliterating is a bit easier but takes longer

[rose sequoia]

What even is huntress's skin?

[bright palm]

when you unlock alts like alt abilities and skins, a new tab will appear on the player select

[fervent abyss]

||Unlock it silly :)||

[fiery wedge]

Does anyone know why the game feels sluggish when using mods?

Never had this issue beofre

[fervent abyss]

froge : )

[plucky ledge]

Treatment area

xD

[severe karma]

How did you that much Dmg with so few items?

[plucky ledge]

Lunar items for damage

19x

[upper briar]

19 stacks of glass

[severe karma]

What is a lunar time tho? Those you can get with seeds, the blue items?

[rose sequoia]

Any tips for solo maroon as huntress? I want to unlock her skin.

[polar anvil]

play a better survivor

[rose sequoia]

Moment.

[polar anvil]

i mean huntress does really suck

in terms of anything except dodging

[rose sequoia]

Ok?

Doesn't mean I don't want to play her.

I want her skin because I want to main her.

[tepid wolf]

I guess just playing a lot until RNGesus blesses you works

[polar anvil]

huntress is just pray to rng until it works
you have nothing to support yourself with

[open loom]

a god run a day keeps the sad away

[dull ingot]

Guys whats the best charchar for max dps :(?

[primal stump]

Personally I think it's MulT

[high torrent]

tru mul-t is the strongest rn

[dull ingot]

its not commando?
i saw someone using a borken build on it

my friend is using this build

and he cant die and he is super strong

[forest pewter]

looks like my merc build minus the infusions and stun grenades

[dull ingot]

like in all yt tier lists people say merch and commando are the worst

but somehow when i see people playing it its op

[desert pollen]

who want to play with me

risk of rain 1

[full gale]

It's because of the items that they get throughout a run

Proc chains matter more compared to dps imo

When you get and a missile shoots out from one of your attacks that's called a "proc"
That atg then has a chance to activate your other items like an Ukulele, the ukulele can activate anothee item and so on

And since commando's m1 has a proc coefficient of 1.0 (as opposed to Mul-T's nailgun of 0.6) items can get really crazy on him

You will struggle in the early stages but if you get good items then your power will skyrocket

[hexed sparrow]

I really don't understand people talking about using a certain build... Are that many people playing on command or something?

[vague sorrel]

Any survivor is op with perfect items like that

[hexed sparrow]

Like yeah no shit 100% crit with some scythes is good

Shocking

[dull ingot]

I mean like in a real game

without the command thing

whats the overall strongest there

[hexed sparrow]

Probably loader

[full gale]

Hey I was using hypotheticals man

It's all a matter of RNG in the end

[tepid wolf]

Builds still have a purpose when cauldrons, lunar items, multi shops and printers come into play

[hexed sparrow]

Yeah yeah sorry I wasn't replying to you gabbo, the other guy mentioning "a build his friend uses"

[full gale]

I'm pretty sure he's new to the game

[hexed sparrow]

I just always get a bit confused when people talk about this build our that build, etc

[tepid wolf]

Builds have a point, but usually you try to create one based on what you have

[hexed sparrow]

Yeah might be 😃

Yeah it's good to understand certain aspects of how a "build" can come together for sure

[full gale]

I think we just call them builds for 2 reasons

1. Thanks to printers, scrappers and cauldrons we have SOME input into it
2. It's much easier to say build

I can't think of another term

[tepid wolf]

Also multi shops

[hexed sparrow]

Fair point!

[tepid wolf]

For example if you find a soulbound catalyst you start to look for forgive me please and on death items

[hexed sparrow]

I'm always looking for on kill haha

I always feel like having even just a couple of gasoline's on any character makes a big difference

[tepid wolf]

Gasoline stacks are super nice early on

Later on the damage past the first stack is a bit crappy

[hexed sparrow]

But yeah, also good to know things like how many crit glasses you really need, etc

[tepid wolf]

Since it doesn't increase burn tick damage just the burn duration

[hexed sparrow]

Yeah, increases AE also which is nice, does the new instant damage increase now with additional stacks?

[tepid wolf]

No it doesn't

[hexed sparrow]

Bummer

[tepid wolf]

Only the burn duration increases

I mean if it did it would make will o wisps useless

Like the first stack is literally half a will o wisp already

[hexed sparrow]

Dumb question, where do you set your role on this disc

Is it a pin somewhere?

[high torrent]

#role-assignment

[hexed sparrow]

Oh it's down there under hangout, thanks I see it now

[high torrent]

ah, fellow rex main

[hexed sparrow]

love rex

[empty urchin]

ayy welcome to the plant club

[somber trellis]

imagine you could sit in pots as rex

[glass plinth]

Sit? Why stop there

I want to bounce around and suicide bomb enemies as rex

[lapis cosmos]

I mean having a goal for what you want in a run is important

also rex is pog

[forest kelp]

When you play multiplayer the idea of "builds" becomes a bit more of a thing because you can make sure that each player is getting the items best suited to the character they are using.

With friends at least.

Never played with randoms.

Like... Bandit gets the crowbars, commando gets the soldiers syringe, engineer gets the fungus, etc.

[dire wigeon]

lol

And I lost stage 2 Sadge

[topaz hornet]

Hi, what do I need with Artificer to be good? Feel like damage is too low compared to other characters.

[tepid wolf]

You need to learn how to cycle the abilities, also how to dodge when using the flamethrower

[topaz hornet]

What about items? Which should I get to increase my DPS? Alloy friend of vultures is too tanky.

[plain plinth]

Bands can be strong with your ice spear or nano bomb. Other than that, just use all the standard items for doing damage with. Maybe ignore bleed since you won't hit often enough to keep stacking it up.

If you use flamethrower, consider focus crystals.

[worthy vapor]

the soldiers syringe works well for increasing DPS

[plain plinth]

Arti is probably the character least affected by attack speed so I don't consider it a priority.

[solid maple]

is microsoft and steam crossplay?

[final shadow]

If you're talking about Xbox, the answer is no

[languid yarrow]

There's no crossplatform with any platform

[heavy lintel]

Not in ror

[orchid girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744037927264452709/830878781806870588/unknown.png

Accidental achievement.

[dull ingot]

yo guys what do i build or heretic?

and what red item i should take on her

[tender dew]

got to mith on loop 2, lost

at least i got a few acheivments

and its the first time ive got past stage 3 on loop 2

[broken ginkgo]

Well, you can take and literally remove the only weakness that heretic has (negative regen)

Other than that, many stuff work with him

Petition to make bonk sound mod for headstompers

[shy palm]

n'kuhana's or rack for the 3 ability or shattered justice if you're doing death mark *as heretic

[polar anvil]

bonk

[shy palm]

Every time I get close to Arti's new skin, I do something wrong. 10k shields left on Twiptwip. I'm not even sure what happened, but all of my health vanished. Probably a meteorite, but I coulda sworn I dodged that one...

[dark arrow]

you don't have to beat a lunar scavenger to get the alt skins

[rose sequoia]

What will kill me this run?

[dull ingot]

not even joking, I went up against a scav with 100k health and what seemed like every healing item (and rejuv rack).

I was kinda getting tired of not being able to do anything so I gave myself 7 tri-tips (this is before update) and I annihilated him within 30 seconds.

bleed is so powerful, especially since it gets stronger the longer the enemy is alive. It's not very good on artificer, but maybe find some way to integrate tri-tips into your run, and I promise you will absolutely destroy the scav

[heavy lintel]

Me

Actually probably not haveing ballista

[orchid girder]

I haven't even touched Monsoon yet, I've been afraid to.

[lime barn]

Monsoon isn’t anything to be afraid of

[alpine timber]

Very hard to play with most of my friends cause they do not get this

[rose sequoia]

I just grab anything I need, leave what I don't.

[alpine timber]

You're a good man

[heavy lintel]

If I’m playing with people it’s normally us all getting stacked stage one then going to mythrix

[rose sequoia]

Aka I'm taking everything fuck you. Mainly just seeds and other stuff that works with huntress.

I get fucked by wisps so I'm always taking magazines.

[heavy lintel]

But most of my friends play huntress

So it’s a case of we all need the same items which is a bit sus

[wispy kettle]

guys i think #gd1-nullified has 2 discord crashing gifs

whenever i go there my disc crashes

[vapid matrix]

Not for me

[errant bramble]

i blocked those myself so i didn't crash

[wispy kettle]

oh

[dull ingot]

crashes for me as well

[wispy kettle]

can soemone tell me their users so i can block them

one of them is @normal edge

[errant bramble]

if you just leave it at the edge instead of loading the gif you can select the user

[wispy kettle]

and @slender wharf

[shy palm]

Shatterspleen all day long. I've never tried both, at least enough to know for sure if I get 2 stacks per. I'm just not very good😂

[dull ingot]

you do get 2 per. It's a max of 1 per item, which is hella OP on Bandit, because then you proc bleed twice and hemorrage once on crit, and bam. The enemies die in three seconds

[shy palm]

Now that I think about it I didn't have to get Beads at all
I forgot I could just obliterate
God damn it Past Max

I guess I wanted to kill something for Arti's skin. Feel like I earned it(while playing with Command😂)

[dull ingot]

lol

[brazen gazelle]

Not going for desperado one shots kinda weird

[lapis cosmos]

these are not mutually exclusive

[dull ingot]

kinda weirdchamp

[brazen gazelle]

aight

Bandit one-shot desperado:

Greys: crowbars, 10 crits
Greens: Guillotines, harvester scythe, 3 fuel cells
Red: Brainstalks, Brilliant behemoth (explody)
lunar: 2 purity (lets you stack tokens super fast), Gesture of the drowned, spinal tonic, Shaped glass (optional)

so i made this build after some tries and it works super well

but i just need survivability

[shy zealot]

Why 10 crits, I feel like the difference between 90% and 100% is negligible, especially with a scythe giving an extra 5%

[brazen gazelle]

especially if you go shaped glass which i go because i like gambling my life

[shy zealot]

get one predator instinct and you're back up to 100 but with some nice side abilities.

[brazen gazelle]

I mean yeah but one grey is really not alot and the knowledge of 100% is nice

Yeah you can go 9 and get predator + scythe

[shy zealot]

im assuming this is a command build?

[brazen gazelle]

Yeah

Command is better than normal

[shy zealot]

10 tougher times will get you a 60 percent block chance which increases survivability 10 fold

[brazen gazelle]

Ah yeah good idea

i just cant get the idea that purity doesnt affect teddys out my head lol

I removed the idea of any chance based cause of the amount of purities in the build

i usually go three instead of 2 cause fuck it

Bandit one-shot desperado:

Greys: crowbars, 10 crits, 10 teddy bears
Greens: Guillotines, harvester scythe, 3 fuel cells
Red: Brainstalks, Brilliant behemoth (explody)
lunar: 2 purity (lets you stack tokens super fast), Gesture of the drowned, spinal tonic, Shaped glass (optional)

[hybrid vault]

rose buckler is pretty good for survivability because armor is insane

[shy zealot]

personally my build quickly became unneeded to even shoot, using daggers, gas, willo, and ukulele

[shy zealot]

I didn't realize buckler was a linear 30, i'll have to consider that

only problem is armor doesn't appear to be, so it kinda becomes irrelevant to continue stacking

[brazen gazelle]

Yeah could run a rose buckler or two

[vague lintel]

The best command build is infinite gestures and the healing fruit, 50% healing every .25 seconds make you invincible and slaughters your ears

[shy zealot]

Speaking of which, with gesture of the drowned, if the item is only activated by looking at an enemy, does it only trigger if you're looking at one (royal capacitor)

[vague lintel]

Yes

[brazen gazelle]

@vague lintel so im in a run now you say i go foreign fruit gesture of the drowned?

[vague lintel]

It’s fun because you can heal 50% hp at a crazy rate with enough gestures

I’d only recommend on command however cause it’s a lot of gestures iirc

[orchid girder]

Yes, I'm doing a Monsoon run with Command. It's mostly there to help me practice and get used to it's difficulty.

I got two reds from Void Fields... that's pretty lucky

[orchid girder]

TFW you get an awful teleporter spot

[naive steppe]

If you wanted to increase the DPS window if BetterUI that's like changing one number

[lapis cosmos]

dps window is useless and also please dont ping me for a message I sent multiple days ago ok thanks

[naive steppe]

It's not useless and I can ping you for a year old message if I feel like it 🤷 lol

[lapis cosmos]

you can it's just annoying

[naive steppe]

Ah yes, someone responding to something you said on the saying and responding app, the horror.

[obtuse hamlet]

Is this game dead or is it worth the buy

[orchid girder]

Risk Of Rain? No, this game is very much alive.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744037927264452709/831008874965368872/unknown.png

Holy hell... my hands were shaking against Mithrix.

That "Chilly" skin for Bandit looks so badass on him.

[obtuse hamlet]

Oh ok sweet

[shy zealot]

just gonna type for fun

[tulip nimbus]

<@&559786374228738069> crash gif ^^

[tranquil ridge]

alkoraproximito#1979 was banned

[tulip nimbus]

Thanks mate

[dull ingot]

Done

[rose sequoia]

I'm at the bazaar.

Where do I unlock the character at?

[bright palm]

next to newt

[rose sequoia]

oh fuck

I thought it was the items adding up to 10.

Does beating the game/obliterating give you coins?

[tulip nimbus]

Yea

7 for obliteration and 10 for beating the game and I think 14 for beads

[rose sequoia]

Does beating with eclipse count too?

[somber trellis]

why 7

[tulip nimbus]

Dunno its just 7

[somber trellis]

5 obliteration, 15 beads, not?

[tepid wolf]

Yep

10 for killing Mithrix

[tulip nimbus]

5 obilt no its 7

[somber trellis]

idk

[tulip nimbus]

I'm pretty sure it's 7

[somber trellis]

it was 5 last time i checked

[tepid wolf]

No obliteration gives 5 coins by itself

[tulip nimbus]

Are you fr

[tepid wolf]

You might get 2 coins during that run

[tulip nimbus]

Man I'm stoned ig

Where did I get 7 from

[tepid wolf]

So that's where you maybe got 7 from

[somber trellis]

strange thing

[buoyant valve]

does anyone know if the going to the void fields after choosing to go to the gilded coast ignores the purchase and takes you somewhere else?

[loud karma]

I vaguely remember it not talking me to gilded coast after doing that exact scenario but that was at least two patches ago

[wind hearth]

Im pretty sure it does ignore what you bought and takes you to the voidfields

And that teleporter (I THINK) is hardwired to take you back to the "Normal stages"

[heavy lintel]

If you chose to go shop when you open a gold portal you have wasted the money

[somber trellis]

he is about choosing a "dreams" for 3 lunars at shop

[heavy lintel]

You can’t choose guilded coast as a dream

[rose sequoia]

Can I still get the skins with artifacts on?

[heavy lintel]

Yes

Artifacts don’t stop anything from happening

[rose sequoia]

Ah.

Any that has no downsides for solo?

[tacit dune]

Yeah you can

[heavy lintel]

Isn’t guilded coast the gold portal

[tacit dune]

aye but you can dream of gold

[silver elbow]

"You dream of wealth."

... forgot to remove the reply, but at least the ping was turned off

[full gale]

Command and sacrifice

[summer terrace]

[dull ingot]

yo guys
what skills am i supposed to use on the merch?

[summer terrace]

they're all good

eviscerate is better with focused assault

[old ledge]

they're all pretty good it depends on what you wanna do

[summer terrace]

slicing winds is better with blinding assault

[old ledge]

either mad resets or evasion, or a mix of the two

the two m2s are horizontal vs vertical mobility

[summer terrace]

vertical vs VERTICAL mobility 😎

[old ledge]

2 chances to proc vs 1 chance +band proc

(I think? the upper can proc bands?)

[summer terrace]

expose is band proc anyway

but yeah

[old ledge]

imo the m1's expose effect is only useful early on or if you get some good attack speed going.

merc needs to be using his skills to zoom around and wreck stuff, not stand there slashing

but it doesn't have an alt, so whatever

[summer terrace]

slicing winds and focused assault both expose

and the m1 is chain is good always

[dull ingot]

wdym

[old ledge]

well, how you wanna play merc

how do you wanna deal damage, avoid damage, leverage expose, etc

[dull ingot]

well tbh just to max dps and shit

[faint onyx]

Go for sw

Best dps

[tepid wolf]

Then go for whirlwind, FA and slicing winds

[summer terrace]

you lose dps with fa if you go sw

can't anim cancel

[dull ingot]

?

[faint onyx]

Slicing winds

[dull ingot]

its so ahrd to get sw tho 😦

[hexed sparrow]

dont understand why people say evis is better with focused assault

[tepid wolf]

From Charlie's testing it's less DPS unless the enemy count is 5 or higher

Then FA takes the lead

[summer terrace]

yeah

[tepid wolf]

Still pretty good if you want more AOE with SW

[summer terrace]

yeah you lose a lot of I frames and in combat mobility though

[hexed sparrow]

the damage isnt all that great and is largely limited to single target

a single target that can be difficult to control

[tepid wolf]

Focused assault is not for single target really

Blind assault is way better for that

[hexed sparrow]

thats why i dont understand people saying its good to pair evis nd focused assault

[tepid wolf]

FA shines against larger groups of enemies

[summer terrace]

yeah fa is pretty shit against single target

[tepid wolf]

Also winds can almost immediately proc 3 expose debuffs from FA which is nice

And sure it's rare, but if you get behemoth, afterburner or brainstalks with FA it's really fun

[lapis cosmos]

evis covers weaknesses

use it to thin out crowds and then evis the tanky ones

also way better for mithrix

evis is also better for hitting wisps, which slicing winds is not great at and FA isn't amazing at due to only having 1 use

FA + Evis is definitely more forgiving due to having 2 dashes and Evis being an easy i frame tool

also SW + BA needs some combos to be good

[hexed sparrow]

eh

SW covers arguably his biggest weakness which is raw damage throughput

i used to really like evis too, it just felt good to play with it... but the damage on it is atrocious

[unique bluff]

Does this mean I can use funny freeze band now against him and get this achievement?

[cyan magnet]

people who grinded days for irradiant pearl on suicide watch

[high torrent]

f for those guys

i said to one guy that they should've waited for the patch

lad just kept grinding😔

[rocky scroll]

Hey guys Heretic has this bug make him fly forever with

Even after i change Q

[tacit phoenix]

Yeah, that's been a bug for a while. If you immediately swap milky chrysalis as it activates, the flying thing stays permanent for the stage. That's how I think it works, not 100% sure.

[icy phoenix]

It should work correctly with the newest patch

[cyan quarry]

Maybe y'all should've made retool more interesting

If you wanted people to switch back

[severe karma]

what'd you recommend for a mercenary build (default skill setup)

[hybrid vault]

you can easily get ethereal right now since the current prismatic trial doesn't spawn enemies

[bright palm]

oh hey! I can get that irradiant pearl now!

[dusky rose]

why does mithrix hp pool scale in fight?
while in the first stage and the second stage (after adds) his hp pool is growing as the time passes

[bright palm]

I got 58 pearls before I looked it up and learned it was bugged, previously

[vernal cairn]

Does anyone here have the problem with enemies not spawning, like, at all? I've made sure to delete the mods, bepinex and validate the game itself, nothing solved it

[mild grotto]

Is it Dissonance

[solid maple]

how many stages does it take to get to final boss?

[vernal cairn]

On the 6th stage

if you choose not to loop on the 5th stage

[solid maple]

oh okey

I died on 2nd atm

[high torrent]

cheat ethereal

[vernal cairn]

Oh, and yeah, it was dissonance that caused it, there was also "NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object" error in the console, i usually play with it, so i didn't bother disabling it

[fathom sinew]

Yes indeed

[unique bluff]

Good

Now I can 1 shot him and not have to tread lightly.

[tepid wolf]

Power mode was way too broken

And things in this game tend to nerfed when they are too good

Which power mode certainly was with doubling your DPS, cutting your speed in half and tripling your EHP

[frosty tangle]

still gonna piss myself over it being nerfed

[tepid wolf]

I mean it was extremely broken

You could literally facetank everything even after several loops

[shrewd thicket]

Has anyone else's game start to act funny after today's patch?

[polar anvil]

no everything is totally fine

[toxic moss]

Engineer

[polar anvil]

check completion tab

[toxic moss]

Has acrid as his role

[polar anvil]

okay listen

[shrewd thicket]

weird cuz if I have dissonance on no monsters spawn and if I have command on I can't pick items

[polar anvil]

yeha thats the point shits bugged again

[shrewd thicket]

and before the start up cut scene there's a strange loading bar

[bright palm]

oh, command is broken too?

[shrewd thicket]

hopefully they fix it soon

[floral forge]

wait I can't play on command drizzle anymore?

😢

[fluid notch]

Finally

Hopoo nerfed command

[west hill]

what

[shrewd thicket]

apparently it still works, wasn't earlier
still dissonance on and no monster

[light valve]

I'm looking to get into the lore of the game. Any Ideas on whereI should start?

[shy zealot]

I'd read the logs you have unlocked

[tired juniper]

so is captain's diablo strike not hitting other players explicitly confirmed to be intentional?

[polar anvil]

no

[light valve]

Are there Logs in the first game I should read too? I havent played the first one in a while

[shy zealot]

Idk i haven't played the first one, but i know there are logs in the first game.

[light valve]

Im gonna have to 100 percent complete the first one arent I 😂

[polar anvil]

yes

[shy zealot]

I have no clue, I've gotten some pieces of the story together from just the ror2 logs

[light valve]

I am trying to put together a video on the lore with a few VA friends of mine as a little summer project but this might be a little mroe complicated than i anticipated 😅

[shy vale]

the first one has monster logs that are from a survivor (presumably commandos) point of view

[light valve]

Gotcha, that is good to know

[shy vale]

It's very rare but I believe there is a log book for providence

Which is nice

[light valve]

I'll have to boot up the Ps4 again and see which logs i've unlocked and whihc ones I still have to go through

[shy vale]

A lot of the items do not have anything useful to say, except for some of the boss items or reds

[light valve]

a log book for providence would be amazing

[shy vale]

they are pretty nice and funny to read through

Especially because of all the theories and suspicons that the commando shows off

[light valve]

oh sweet, that actually sounds pretty interesting

[shy vale]

What I find most interesting from what the commando writes down is how all the enemies are peaceful as hell

until they see him, as if its some kind of switch

It's interesting but there isn't too much lore

to be said from the logbooks

[light valve]

that is interesting though, I never thought about that

all the enemies never fight each other in game

[shy vale]

According to him, they are very happy and peaceful

[fallow depot]

*canonically the imps probably fight other enemies, thats an exception

[shy vale]

He constantly feels like he's doing something wrong

and that as well

[fallow depot]

well wouldn't you, killing innocent creatures?

[shy zealot]

I read somewhere (not confirmed) that the enemies are brainwashed or something? ]

[fallow depot]

they're brought to the planet from providence, whether he actually "saves" them is questionable, but some worship him

[shy vale]

Unknown, Providence is protecting them though

[fallow depot]

lemurians worship provi im pretty sure, pretty sure they made statues

some go against provi, and thats how you end up with heretic. sliced into pieces for disobeying and trying to leave the planet

[shy zealot]

also in the first game is it confirmed that providence was the one who caused the ship to go down?

[polar anvil]

yes

[pastel garden]

Yeah, it was shown in ROR1 intro

[fallow depot]

nah the batteries just ran out /s

[shy zealot]

I really need to buy and play ror1

[polar anvil]

chinese engines

[light valve]

Yeah I will definitely go back and try to piece things together

[shy vale]

His ship, the "contact light" reminds me of Noah's ark with all the creatures stuck inside

[shy zealot]

is mithrix mentioned at all in ROR1?

[shy vale]

and how providence wants to "protect them"

[fallow depot]

the contact light isnt providences ship

[rare heart]

Mirthix is the white pixel on the moon, watching that shit go down.

[shy vale]

I know that

My mistake

[fallow depot]

is he really trying to protect them if he punishes those who try to escape?

[light valve]

Maybe he thinks they're saver with him?

[shy vale]

What could he be protecting them from

[fallow depot]

destroying themselves and their planets

[rare heart]

Sweet, artificer is finally viable.

[fallow depot]

random question: arent pearls op now since irradiant is 20% now?

[rare heart]

Now how do I pay for things

[rare heart]

How many times do you actually find a cleansing pool when you have spare lunars to burn?

[shy vale]

Pearls were always op but now they are going to be a little more common

[fallow depot]

just grab all the gestures and beads you can
and isnt a bunch of pearls better than a bunch of transcendence or something?

[shy vale]

sorta

stacking irradiant pearls is pretty busted

It's still just a 20% chance

[fallow depot]

you get more health, and more everything. who needs the transcendence then?
yeah now you find more irradiant pearls

[shy vale]

let alone you need to find a pool

[fallow depot]

ive seen em on stage 2 before, but yeah i guess they are fairly uncommon

dont they only spawn if you have lunars?

[shy vale]

not sure

[fallow depot]

i almost never see them, but when i do, i always have a lunar

i dont play with lunars often, so that would explain why i dont see them often

[light valve]

Thank you guys for the lore help, you've given me a good starting point

[rare heart]

....lol, it didn't spawn a teleporter.

[fallow depot]

theorycrafting has lots of resources n stuff

[shy vale]

There is a channel that tells a little bit of lore

I forgot the name though, I'd look up "Ror2 lore"

As a basis

[rare heart]

Wait, does this mean mirthix is 20% kind now, instead of 4%?

[shy vale]

I learned a lot from that channel

[light valve]

Yeah, I came across them but I felt as if the lore was speratic and I wasnt sure where to start, plus I don't want to end up copying his vidoes 😅

[shy vale]

I see

If you don't want to tear your brain out looking for logs, there is always the wikipedia

[fallow depot]

though personally i think the theorycrafting channel should be a bit more open to new ideas, ghor even said

of course there are lots of silly random ideas, but some of the ones that have more of a basis could definitely lead to big discoveries imo

[light valve]

I see, that is definitely something else to keep in mind. Also works out because I want to try to build a conclusion of lore from scratch based off of what I have found in games and logs

[fallow depot]

after reading some of what ghor said, about how it isnt necessarily oxygen or anything that prevents the brothers from travelling in space... i have some of my own theories i might be... crafting you could say

[shy vale]

Maybe they just can't fly

or jump really high

[fallow depot]

personally, i think it might be some sort of big universe rule or something, that they shouldnt go into space, and must stay on planets. like some sort of space cops, not too far fetched with void reavers existing

[shy vale]

Maybe it has something to do with their race alone

Their blood

They are special people

Seemingly gods

[light valve]

I also feel like there are a lot of hints and stuff in the worlds themselves that I really need to explore to find

[fallow depot]

it doesnt necessarily have to be anything with their BIOLOGY that prevents them, does it?

[shy vale]

Maybe it could be

[fallow depot]

they're potentially GODS, and if not, demigods. why would space be such a big problem?

space cops im tellin ya

[shy vale]

What of Newt and his People, along with Acrid

[fluid sedge]

commando grenade physics still kinda fucked

[shy vale]

Newt can seemingly control time and space

[fallow depot]

obviously devs dont give out much information, but this specifically is something to feast on

[light valve]

If it was simply their biology that prevented them I dont think they would have drawn attention to it

[fallow depot]

a lot of people assume its the biology of them that prevents them from travelling in space

they design all these crazy things, why cant they just make a ship the same way we do? are they not allowed, by some "no gods can go to space" rule?

[shy vale]

They have constructed teleporters

[fallow depot]

exactly!

[shy vale]

It's thought provoking

[light valve]

What about the name of the game itself? had anyone figured out why it is called that?

[fallow depot]

also this is probably something that HAS been answered, but how on earth did they get the teleporters to the other planets with lemurians and such, to "save them".

oh its called risk of rain because the "rain" is a risk of failure and death at any time. the chaoticness of the game

[shy vale]

Risk of Rain, at first i thought it was because the survivors came from orbit, like a raindrop

but I have no clue

[fallow depot]

you could easily see it as the "rain" of all the cargo, from the PoV of the monsters. but devs have stated its called risk of rain as in a risk of... your run dying at any moment

google search ez

[shy vale]

Maybe the Void Reavers are actually the space police

[fallow depot]

i mean they bring you to time prison, but they also clearly just monitor the world in general

[shy vale]

There happens to be a LOT of them by the end of ror2

Also brings up the void fields

[fallow depot]

loop canonicity is questionable

whatever a void reaver catches, it brings to the void. the void fields is a prison

[shy vale]

but you are able to clear the vents

[fallow depot]

i dont think i have too many questions about the void itself, but the reavers motivations, maybe

[shy vale]

At first the void fields are very toxic or whatever, but you can end up clearing the fields

[fallow depot]

again, theorycrafting could probably explain the void to you.

also not everything you do is canon, notably

and getting money from killing isnt canon

[shy vale]

Yeah even if its a game mechanic

I find it weird how their is a portal in newts shop, and how it kills you until you release the vents

maybe the reavers can corrupt planets

[fallow depot]

acrids logbook says something about the void reavers freaking out and panicking and trying to contain something. i assumed it was just them trying to contain the moon, but it could also be the survivor running through and breaking everything out

[light valve]

My favourite quote when trying to figure things out is a quote by Sherlock. (Cheesy I know). But it goes as follows: "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, is the truth"

I think I have to start with figuring out what is impossible and why

[fallow depot]

acrid isnt a lemurian because no, thats the first thing to rule out

[shy vale]

He's a pretty weird looking lemurian

A big one too lol

[fallow depot]

when people say acrids a lemurian i cant even tell if they're meming or not anymore

[shy vale]

In ror1 there are EVOLVED lemurians

[fallow depot]

i mean when i got the game i kinda assumed that acrid was, but thats confirmed to not be the case lol

[shy vale]

Meaning they have that kind of science

[light valve]

Im going to have to get really good at this game 🤣

[tulip nimbus]

Acrid is a lemurian

[shy vale]

Acrid ain't a lemurian

[fallow depot]

well i know YOU would be meming, spafnar

[shy vale]

[tulip nimbus]

Damn I've been outed

[light valve]

If hes not a lemurian then what is he?

[fallow depot]

or are you?

acrid is specifically some weird lab experiment by humans, was in the contact light

[shy vale]

He's some kind of toxic species

[fallow depot]

not a species necessarily, could be one of a kind

[shy vale]

In Ror1, you encounter him in the sunken tomb

[fallow depot]

yeah cus he fell with the rest of the cargo

[shy vale]

mhm

[fallow depot]

and then void reavers are like "tf is this" and bring acrid to void

[shy vale]

Acrid was pretty happy there

then he gets dragged in this mess again

[fallow depot]

poor acrid, just wants to relax

imagine, you're some creature being experimented on, then you CRASH onto a planet, then get brought to a place to rest for the rest of time, but then someone yoinks you outta there

[light valve]

My friend and I beat the second game for the first time and he was Acrid and the final thing it said was"with disillusions of freedom" and that pulled my heart strings

[shy vale]

Acrid in-game is smart enough to use technology and items, probably not in canon though

[tired juniper]

delusions of freedom

And so it left with a new hunger, to be left alone.
And so it left, with delusions of freedom.

[fallow depot]

didnt they change most of the ending dialogue in march update?

[tired juniper]

yeah

not all though

[shy vale]

I want to know who made the Mf eukele

[light valve]

oh damn

[fallow depot]

some dude, according to the logbook.

actually did he make it? he played it, but does it state he made it?

[shy vale]

In Ror1, the scavenger is able to use the eukele as some kind of cannon of electricity

[rare heart]

Acrid is pretty smart canonically though.

[fallow depot]

well a lot of items abilities are not exactly canon

at least the way we see them

[shy vale]

the scavenger in ror1 has a set amount of items

[tired juniper]

so with happiest mask lore, some rogue soldier just decided to use the mask to try to kill his superior?

[light valve]

I feel like the captain will have some good lore as well

[fallow depot]

looking at umbra titles is a good bit of lore, too

[tired juniper]

his lore is basically we're pulling you out of retirement to go on this rescue mission with a ship that isn't even designed to be used for rescue missions

[fallow depot]

i think captains is "tired veteran" or something

yep, im right

[light valve]

does ror1 and 2 take place at the same time or is that unkown?

[shy vale]

its a sequel

After providence dies, it's ror2

[fallow depot]

ror1 followed by some other stuff happening, then ror2

its not IMMEDIATELY after, its like ?? years after

number is debated but ive heard like 12, 20, something like that

[shy vale]

We're not sure if some of the characters are the same as ror1. Loader is a man in ror1

[fallow depot]

we are sure, devs have confirmed

[shy vale]

The Commando in ror2 can be a different guy than ror1

[fallow depot]

the only character that is the same as in ror1 is acrid

[shy vale]

As I presumed

makes sense

[fallow depot]

ror2 commando IS a different commando, its not like thats their names lol

[light valve]

so how did acrid get picked up again?

[rare heart]

He was cargo on the contact light

[light valve]

no like for the second time

in ror2 how did he end up there

[fallow depot]

so acrid was a test subject on the contact light, then alongside the cargo, fell onto the planet, and either out of wanting to just take a nap and be left alone, or because void reaver was angy, he got sent to time prison

[shy vale]

he escaped void fields

[rare heart]

Well, something put him there.

[shy vale]

first he was taken there, by most likely the reavers

[fallow depot]

void reavers are what put things in the void

[rare heart]

He was stored in the cells as gems of atomic matter to be reassembled on demand.

[fallow depot]

they can put the entire moon in the void, of course they can take acrid there

[light valve]

oooh so ror2 is just in a void?

[fallow depot]

something to note is that the void fields isnt the entirety of the void. and i think i heard somewhere that the fields gameplay-wise were kind of a half idea

[shy vale]

There is the mysterious Han-D character in ror1 which I find very interesting

Han-D is found as cargo in contact light in-game

[fallow depot]

i feel like out of ALL previous characters to add back, han-d is probably least likely. mul-t is like a straight up upgrade. even has a skin

[shy vale]

If you hover over him in the character select, normally it would give a brief description

[fallow depot]

of course, they could, but han-d brings like least amount of new ideas

[shy vale]

but for han-d it simply says "No manual"

Han-D i think is very interesting

[rare heart]

HAN-D was the maintenance bot for Contact Light. CHEF was the chef, obviously.

[fallow depot]

seeing enforcer mod makes me mildly interested, but i feel like the shield would just be weird in 3d

[shy vale]

and he's my main in ror1 lol

[rare heart]

Safe Travels should have a CHEF unit on board as well.

[fallow depot]

yo ive heard something crazy neat of a theory, what if the first DLCs new final boss is the commando from ror1?

[shy vale]

That would be weird

[tired juniper]

is that an actual theory, or just some baseless guess

[rare heart]

It's pretty clear you aren't supposed to let CHEFs out of their kitchens, since they can butcher entire native populations and still think they are serving customers.

[fallow depot]

isnt it neat when games do the whole "fight previous protagonist" thing?
oh its a baseless guess

[shy zealot]

im guessing they're gonna maybe try and bring provi back like destiny 2 shadowkeep nightmares

[fallow depot]

though i'd be impressed if ROR pulled that off, seems hard

[shy vale]

I really like the ror1 commando because of the logbooks

[fallow depot]

im pretty sure its confirmed provi is NEVER coming back

like super mega dead

[rare heart]

Fight his ghost.

[shy vale]

It would be REALLY interesting if it was the commando with nothing but a broken eukelele

similar to ror1 poster

[rare heart]

Or a dual bossfight, take on both brothers at the same time.

[fallow depot]

i'd expect either the master of imps, or the ruler of the void

[shy vale]

I'd like ancient wisp back

or the cremator

[fallow depot]

depends on theme of the expansion

[shy vale]

The Cremator would be sick

[shy zealot]

im hoping the void and reavers stay obscured

[rare heart]

We might have broken time after nuking the moon.

[fallow depot]

i was expecting heretic to be the "new final boss" but y'know, anniversary update kinda shot that down. but not in a bad way, very happy to have heretic

[shy zealot]

i don't think the moon went boom, i think it got voided from how it looks in cutscene

[rare heart]

Yea, and that's gotta have a negative effect.

[shy vale]

It'd be cool if the temple of elders returned

[fallow depot]

well i wouldn't assume the DLC comes AFTER the events of ror2
thats a big question, it does say alternate final stage im pretty sure

[shy vale]

and there was a boss version of the lemurian

[fallow depot]

that would imply it is somewhere you go instead of to the moon

"alternate final boss" is what the roadmap says

so im going to assume it doesnt come after the events of base game ror2

[shy vale]

The divine teleporter in ror1 took you to contact light

but contact light is gone right?

[fallow depot]

i mean it kind of exploded and crashed lol

i dont see exploring a ship in ror2 working that well, ror2 works with big open places

[shy zealot]

new boss is golem made from contact light pieces

[old ledge]

and yet somehow no one has found the wreck except for like one guy

or gal

[fallow depot]

imp expansion was one of the examples given, they could just go with that, i dont think anyone would be disappointed.

[old ledge]

and there's like zero mention of what happened either except a kinda cryptic predatory instincts log, and then nothing after that

Contact light's stil missing

[shy vale]

A search team (the survivors) going into a wrecked contact light

[fallow depot]

the only reason im not interested in imps is because they're boring to me, but thats also because they dont have much info about them, and therefore i would want an imp expansion more if we had an imp expansion, what a paradox

[old ledge]

RoR1 may have just never happened.

...Although that doesn't explain why a certain swordsman is dead.

[fallow depot]

it was all a dream can be said for anything, same with it never happened

ror2 could also have never happened

[shy zealot]

maybe contact lights wreckage got detained by the reavers

[shy vale]

the omega reaver

[old ledge]

nah if the omega reaver hit anywhere it was the moon

[shy zealot]

because it seems like they're more then a funky crustacian but exist with some form of purpose in lore

[rare heart]

...sirens call is the contact light wreckage.

[light valve]

The reavers definitely play and important role I have yet to understand

[bright palm]

part of it, at least

[fallow depot]

sirens call is just a bunch of different ships

[light valve]

why do the reavers only show up after a loop too or after you kill mithrax

[bright palm]

the contact light was a little large

[shy vale]

what if when you loop it reverses time

[rare heart]

Reavers are the time cops

[fallow depot]

well after the man on the moon dies, maybe his power fades away enough for them to come gather it. or maybe cus something bad happens and they need to fix it

[shy zealot]

i theorize that they're kinda like time cops, looping sending you back in time can't be good for time stream, same with trying to blow up the moon

[fallow depot]

he probably was wanted by them, but like maybe they couldnt go there

[bright palm]

at the end of the game, the front and only the four first containers escape the planet

the UES redacted would be the Safe Travels. The mission is top secret so saying which ship was sent out on the secret mission would have to remain top secret and be redacted

[fallow depot]

notably the other day ghor pointed out REDACTED doesnt HAVE to be just one ship, it could even be CL, ST, or a different ship, or multiple different ships. its just the logbook refusing to give info on the name

[light valve]

the reavers seem to be hella powerful, why couldn't they go there. and hwy do they only show up after mithrax is defeated. and if he was wanted and we killed him why are they attacking us

[fallow depot]

ghor said redacted isnt any ship in specific is what im saying, afaik

[shy zealot]

i think they play a roll similar to gman in the half life games, interveining to stop reality from getting fucked up

[old ledge]

those robots that were looking for iron, could they have come on a ship? their log kinda makes them sound space capable though

[fallow depot]

okay so the imps didnt have much power on the planet when provi was there, since his influence on the planet was still there. the lunar chimera event says "the bulwarks ?? begins to fade" or something, so thats provis influence fading, so i assume mithrix also has some sort of power that could stop reavers in a similar way

[bright palm]

the contact light was big and its probably only one of the containers that fell off the ship

[fallow depot]

do the reavers contain the moon explosion, or cause the moon "explosion"?

[old ledge]

both

i reckon

[fallow depot]

which causes it to explode? the reavers, or mithrix dying?

[rare heart]

The moon is being detained until the end of time

[fallow depot]

mithrix dying -> moon explodes
or mithrix dying -> void reavers can come -> moon explodes

[old ledge]

they show up in force and little reaver blasts dot the place, as if there' simultaneously destablisation and a massive reaver invasion to stop some mega spacetime catastrophe

[bright palm]

you can see bits of the contact light in the background of the stage "Temple of the Elders"

[shy zealot]

mithrix dies, tries to blow up moon, reavers detain before explosion

I need to get the voidfields log, same with commencement

[light valve]

so lemme make sure i get the right

[shy zealot]

^keep in mind not a ton of lore is set in stone and most of it is theorizing

[light valve]

Providence crashed the contact light ship -> we kill Providence -> UES Safe travels goes to rescue them -> then what

[bright palm]

they do some scientific research on the planet, look for evidence of survivors, bring back things like chests and make logs of the planet

then some of their ships start going down, and they presumably find evidence of Mithrix and his plan to conquer the universe

one of them was taken out by a grandparent, another by a parent

[old ledge]

Then they land on the planet, look for survivors and try and figure out what the hell happened and eventually follow the teleports to the moon, whereupon they find their ship waylaid by mithrix and shoot him in the face. Makes more sense than before, imo, where you just killed mithrix because he was... there?

ninjad

And between safe travels' arrival and contact light's crash, the survivors go varying degrees of mad and dead, meaning there's nothing left but monsters by the time you get there

[rare heart]

Hey, the crime of being in our path of senseless murder is a serious one!

[light valve]

one more question, the ship on commemerance with all the dead commandos. was that part of CL?

[old ledge]

it's entirely possible that the players had been told mithrix was bad news by their researchers, this scans especially well for Captain

[rare heart]

It was one of the safe travels shuttles.

[old ledge]

Probably Safe Travels, a shuttle that landed but found the LZ waaaay too hot

[rare heart]

You'll notice a lot of those crashed around.

[bright palm]

yea, some log entries mention ships getting destroyed from the safe travels

[light valve]

Maybe he needed something frim the ships?

[bright palm]

they might have landed the ship and the lunar chimeras took out the commandos

[rare heart]

They touched down, THEN the chimeras started descending on them.

[light valve]

Mithrax does steal all our loot at one point

[bright palm]

his plan was to use a super teleporter to go to earth and other planets but he might have wanted something from the ship, he also might have been using it as bait to attract the survivors

[old ledge]

im pretty sure he could steal loot all along he just thought he didn't need to, and by the time it occured to him he was near death

overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer, etc

[light valve]

thats true thats true

how was he building the teleporter in the first place though?

[bright palm]

uh

[old ledge]

because he's mithrix

he's literally the big builder guy of the two

[bright palm]

space magic, lots of logs mention building things like golems and wisps and what not

[old ledge]

if anyone could, it's him, it's just he was left on the moon with jack and crap to do it with

so it took time

[rare heart]

Hang on, there's a post about it somewhere...

[bright palm]

he also claims credit to building "The Gates" in the brittle crown entry, which are the teleporters

[light valve]

I was just thinking maybe he needed the parts from the ship but if its mostly magic then nevermind

[old ledge]

i reckon that he built most of the planet's structures. which is why they're all overgrown and abandoned by the time the safe travels gets there

[bright palm]

not exactly

[rare heart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565729054620385280/829807703030759434/mithrixslingshot.png

[bright palm]

Providence built stuff as well, he just didn't use his brother's designs

[light valve]

also just to clarify when ST went to the the planet did some go to the moon? thats why they're there

[bright palm]

Sunder Grove has mithrix talk about triangles (and more or less, how they're the strongest shape) but we see Rings everywhere else, which are in fact magic and are basically everwhere else except grove

he also loved wurms

[old ledge]

makes sense

[light valve]

also did you mean the rescue mission was a cover up so theycould research?

[old ledge]

after all, wisps are massively soul-aligned and the gardens where they're made...

round

[light valve]

I see i see

[bright palm]

well, I think they wanted to know where all the cargo went on the contact light

[old ledge]

i think it was a rescue mission

[bright palm]

it was less about survivors (except maybe the captain of the contact light) and about all the military tech that just went fucking missing without a trace

[old ledge]

just not for people

yeah what penrose said

[bright palm]

I think the UES plays by Starfleet Federation rules and just sends scientists on every ship in case they find something new

just without all the humanitarism

[rare heart]

Well, it was alluded even in the first game, but the fact the Contact Light had a teleporter on board was strange.

[light valve]

Also was mithrax always on the moon? and do we know how he got stuck there?

[light valve]

Wait

[rare heart]

Providence deceived him into teleporting onto it first, then he shut off the gate.

[bright palm]

the captain of the contact light also went off course which was... interesting

[old ledge]

We do. Providence was appalled by his brother's willingness to leave the beings of the planet to die to run off and do their own thing, so tricked his brother into going through the moon gate first then turned it off, trapping him there.

[bright palm]

no one knows how the teleporter got there but the captain of the contact light was obviously up to something

[old ledge]

he wasn't expecting to be boarded. He seemed pretty surprised when Kurr'Skan jumped him.

[rare heart]

There, he used his influence to empower lunar items and distribute them to the denizens of the planet, using providence's own beloved subjects against him.