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tepid wolf
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Yes using the m2 against a slope to gain heigbt

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Trimping comes from tf2

glass plinth
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Edgebugging is already taken.

tepid wolf
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Where going really fast while charging made you very slippery

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Allowing you to gain a lot of height from ramps at the right angle

glass plinth
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Alternatively you can call it surfing

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Also, trimping is short for trick jumping

tepid wolf
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Great against vagrants and the worship unit

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Also greater wisps

glass plinth
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If it can fly, you can slam it.

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Maybe not on mithrix constructs, haven’t done that on them.

tepid wolf
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Also mercenary is insanely good with brilliant behemoth

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Makes attacks cause 2 expose stacks

languid sun
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Thanks! Also on a secondary note, which bosses/enemies you loathe most?

glass plinth
tepid wolf
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It's nuts with slicing winds

plain plinth
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Had one silly run where I had no damage but I did have uppercut with purity on merc...so I did my duty and beat a mountain shrine greater wisp swarm by uppercutting them above the map so they'd die instantly.

glass plinth
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I thought it would be the same thing as rebar-behemothwith mult

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Penetration and all, but that’s interesting too

tepid wolf
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Like the CD reduction it gives is insane

glass plinth
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Well that makes Behemoth an S teir merc pick then

tepid wolf
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Yeah it is

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Especially with focused assault and slicing winds

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Which are my favorite to use now. They have so much combo potential

languid sun
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Me after seeing the slamming video:

tepid wolf
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Also you can use the third merc m1 attack into a m2

glass plinth
tepid wolf
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Basically both are used at the same time

glass plinth
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Pulling enemies into walls and all

languid sun
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How? I love Loader, she is the most fun character so far.

tepid wolf
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Only smaller enemkes though

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Merc can also yeet wisps into space with rising thunder

languid sun
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I hate wisps soooo much

heavy lintel
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As a loader main wisps bad

languid sun
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In the first game you could easily dodge their fire with the proper timing, but here?

tepid wolf
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Loader is broken though

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She has so much regen armor and HP

languid sun
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With Loader I just toss her lil drone and run away

heavy lintel
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Yer so

tepid wolf
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Wisps are next to no damage for her

heavy lintel
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I just grapple them

tepid wolf
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Brass contraptions though are the worst

echo dagger
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I didn’t know how to do it consistently, huh. I managed to kill a couple of vagrants but it was usually by chance that it worked lol. Now I hopefully won’t accidentally send them all the way across the map

heavy lintel
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Or grater wisps

languid sun
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Brass Contraptions are easy to dodge, you just have to pay attention to their cues. Now if you are grappled, slowed or busy with something else, then yeah, they will turn you into tomato sauce.

glass plinth
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Contraptions almost always spawn behind me

languid sun
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And Greater Wisps are too slow, it's easy to run beneath them.

glass plinth
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75% of my brass deaths have been from elite contraptions I either forgot about or did not hear

tepid wolf
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Yep

glass plinth
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Greater wisps are non threats

tepid wolf
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Unless in a horde

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Then you are in trouble

glass plinth
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If you stand still, sure they can one shot you by bypassing OSP.

languid sun
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Everything is trouble when in a horde.

glass plinth
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But you can also just jump.

heavy lintel
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And I never face one normally 2-4

tepid wolf
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I meant as in the boss horde

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The ton of elite normal enemies bosses

heavy lintel
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That’s the same as a normal horse

glass plinth
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Ehh they’re usually pretty slow, depends on the elite

tepid wolf
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Well since there is usually a lot they can easily swarm you

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Outside of hordes greater wisps are a joke

glass plinth
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I’d be worried about that in a small room but nowhere else

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Blazing or shock would be scary though.

tepid wolf
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Hordes of brass contraptions are just pure hell

glass plinth
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Brass horde stage 5 = death

languid sun
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Especially when you're in a melee character like loader or merc.

glass plinth
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Thankfully this nearly never happens now because that stage actually has a boss

tepid wolf
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Loader is pretty fine

languid sun
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I shouted when Brass Hordes appeared on stage 3

tepid wolf
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In general loader is way too good

glass plinth
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Loader can handle the larger flying enemies.

tepid wolf
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She just stomps the game

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She has literally everything

glass plinth
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Except range including range.

tepid wolf
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Yep

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She is a ranged character that is being the bullet

languid sun
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I hope they don't nerf her.

glass plinth
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a good m1

tepid wolf
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Loader can also just hold m1 at the bosses and win

glass plinth
tepid wolf
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Well a nerf could be useful

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Since powercreep is an issue already

languid sun
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Exactly, whenever I'm too pissed at bad RNG I just hop on Loader and have fun.

glass plinth
glass plinth
tepid wolf
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Like just compare the original characters from when the game was first added to steam compared to the new ones

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The old characters are not bad, but have a weaker average power level

languid sun
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Enforcer was definitely turned into the Captain.

glass plinth
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engineer, huntress, commando(post attack speed buff)

tepid wolf
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Like they needed to making scaling faster to balance newer survivors, but gimped the older ones

glass plinth
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No wait, engie was added later.

languid sun
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Yeah, engineer was added later.

tepid wolf
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Older characters were built for a very different time

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Like the game has changed so much

glass plinth
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Merc was fairly strong back then though. Best mobility until loader came round.

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MulT is and was still pretty good.

languid sun
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And Captain is definitely a reworked Enforcer, think about it, shotgun, stationary defenses, secondary ability is to stun...

tepid wolf
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Merc was really braindead until 1.0

glass plinth
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Yep

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Just press shift to become invincible and get another shift

tepid wolf
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Like the power level of Rex, Captain, Loader, Acrid and Bandit are so high

languid sun
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I love the enforcer (he is one of my favorites in the first) but it would be hella hard to adapt a character that with a press of a button becomes invincible to literally half of the screen.

heavy lintel
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Has there been any news on anniversary updated or console yet

tepid wolf
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Judging by the mod enforcer transferred to 3D pretty well

glass plinth
languid sun
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Oh they did? Awesome!

tepid wolf
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Mainly tanking is niche in ROR2

glass plinth
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Enforcer was busted in 2d because that’s actually half the screen

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If you put your shield up wrong in a 3D environment you’re just standing still.

tepid wolf
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Having a proper tank character would be nice

glass plinth
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MuLT is kinda serving that role. New special really leans into that.

languid sun
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It was sorta balanced with the incredibly low range of the enforcer and the fact that area attacks were his weakness, his mobility was awful.

tepid wolf
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Power mode mul-t is the closest to that

languid sun
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Don't forget the shield of the engineer

tepid wolf
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Not really a full on tank at all

glass plinth
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That’s turtling/camping

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Not tanking, per say.

languid sun
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Yeah, you're right, my bad

glass plinth
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no they’re fairly similar

tepid wolf
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Also m1 loader is a tank

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Similar with melee acrid kinda. Power mode mul-t is the closest thiugh

glass plinth
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Barrier isn’t that strong imo, it’s the pressure off your healing items that’s good.

languid sun
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I think that Rex is also quite powerful, his special is literally the cube equipment mixed with hp drain

glass plinth
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Rex’a special is pretty good yeah

somber trellis
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can blight be good?

glass plinth
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“Weaken” is nice, but I mostly just like the rocket jumping

languid sun
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(though they should give a soft cap on the drain, as in, he ends with 1 hp and can't use his skills until he recovers)

glass plinth
tepid wolf
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It is good pre loop

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I know it's again the same guy, but watch the Striker Hutassa video on jt

glass plinth
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Yeah. Like many of the unlocks, usage depends on if you want to loop or kill mithrix

tepid wolf
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It's a very in depth analysis of the two choices

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Also rose bucklers are super underrated

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They give a lot of damage resistance

somber trellis
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besides "i hate it so i'll take it"

tepid wolf
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Nab blight is really gokd

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As said watch that video on it

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Sure it's long but really tells the strenghts and weaknesses of both

somber trellis
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i played with one guy that loved acrid with blight

glass plinth
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I dunno, rose bucklers are nice but the issue is I want most other greens and more than half the characters can’t sprint and do anything else.

somber trellis
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and you know

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poison: 37 dmg
blight: 7 dmg

glass plinth
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I guess it’s an option for when you’re about to get hit regardless, and want the damage reduction to kick in

tepid wolf
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Blight can easily be kept at 4-5 stacks as melee acrid

glass plinth
tepid wolf
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Also as melee acrid the ability to kill eith blight ks gkod

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Also blight is more single target damage until you loop

glass plinth
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In summary; scale with looping scaling, or overpower enemies with high stack counts loop 1

tepid wolf
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And has more item synergies

glass plinth
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TLDR:
blight for 5 stage game.
Poison for looping.

tepid wolf
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Blight for melee acrid really

glass plinth
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Yeah if you’re gonna shoot at em you want poison.

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Then again, purity is available so you can sometimes make it work.

tepid wolf
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Blight makes early game melee acrid way nicer

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And later on bite takes over for damage

glass plinth
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Same case for desperado

tepid wolf
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Desperado is a sidegrade really

glass plinth
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Looping makes it hard to stack quickly, but first loop you get like 70 stacks per stage if you get one crowbar

tepid wolf
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The 60% damage per kill just clears the earlier stages

glass plinth
tepid wolf
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Also great against Mithrix

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Since you can kill the minions before the fight for stacks

glass plinth
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right.

tepid wolf
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Especially the small bombs

glass plinth
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This is also why I think purity stacking+desperado is really fun

tepid wolf
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Had over 30+ stacks at one point

glass plinth
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You don’t need lights out because you already have no cooldowns, and desperado suddenly becomes way easier to stack

tepid wolf
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Also behemoth is great with Desperado

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The explosion counts as Desperado too

glass plinth
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It is? Does it rob you of stacks like

tepid wolf
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So kills with the AOE explosion also gives stacks

glass plinth
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Oh that’s awesome then. Base damage + stack damage x behemoth explosion

tepid wolf
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So you can get a bunch with grouped up enemies

glass plinth
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Yeah that’s what I hoped bands would do

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But they didn’t, so I assumed behemoth wouldn’t too

tepid wolf
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Desperado has a less negative rep than blight at least

glass plinth
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You telling me this makes me want to play bandit and sniff out a behemoth lol.

tepid wolf
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Since a lot of people are still confused on how Desperado stacks

glass plinth
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Really? Seems pretty straightforward

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The issue seems to be people trying to babysit executions

tepid wolf
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The 10% confuses some people

glass plinth
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Which is understandable, it can get frustrating, especially if you have drones.

tepid wolf
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So they think it get 10% additive per stack

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Instead of the 60% we really have

glass plinth
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Ahh

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Yeah, I assume one may also think desperado stacks count to all weapons too

tepid wolf
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Also it's confusinf for some sinxe Desperado uses the base damage value for the increase and not the last value

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Haven't seen that one yet

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It's mostly the aformentioned misconception of it being additive

glass plinth
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Gotcha

merry grove
languid sun
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Does playing as the heretic unlocks anything?

arctic vine
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just a logbook entry if you win

glass plinth
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^

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You do not unlock your previous survivors achievements as them though

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Except for I think prismatic trials, was that a thing?

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I think I’m thinking about eclipse mode

pale roost
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Hi ! I've got all the percentages in my profile stats shown as "75?" instead of "75%". Does anyone have the same issue ?

languid sun
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Bleh, I hate when I have to go on drizzle just for the sake of some unlocks, like killing a boss in five seconds for the engineer and in a single burst attack with the artificer

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Especially after I tried unlocking it on rainstorm and I had three dunestriders in a row.

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Dunestrider is the boss I find most annoying, though the gentle wanderer comes close to a second.

versed epoch
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I sure do love getting to mythrix and realizing a full lights out crit w/ band hardly dents him

dusky copper
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is there any way to turn off the lunar equipments blue glow (the tonic, i forget its exact name), i love running it with gestures of the drowned, but it makes the game super annoying to look at

faint onyx
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Like changes your screen color?

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Cause in the newest pc update they added a feature so it doesn’t do that

dusky copper
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i use it fairly often, and it still adds the blue filter and makes item outlines go wacky

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unless they patched it out yesterday, i didnt play yesterday

faint onyx
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Like from the equipment slot?

dusky copper
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yeah, the spinel tonic

vague lintel
dusky copper
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consume fuel cells NikoWOKE

vague lintel
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im playing mult and i switched at the wrong time

dusky copper
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oof

vague lintel
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i have constant uptime i was just on my other equip for too long

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and i want to say it took a solid 4 seconds to switch back to tonic

split forum
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is it just me or is scrap launcher kinda good on mult 🥴

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has the best dps other then saw (by 40%), is a fuckin explosion, the cooldown recharges WHILE firing, has better range then saw and nailgun, ect

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why people be sleeping on it? for early game it sounds insane and feels insane too

vague lintel
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attack speed scaling

split forum
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oh motherfucker

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is it the arti affect where it isnt affected by syringe?!

vague lintel
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the shot speed is but the recharge isnt

mellow mango
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people dont really sleep on it, scrap is insane
but in 1.0 it was far worse so people are still getting used to it

split forum
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ive never seen a mult use scrap

mellow mango
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also yeah no attack speed scaling is sad

jolly zephyr
split forum
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i wish it was like bandits, but i suppose its still good for my mythrix% runs

vague lintel
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scrap is good

split forum
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would purity be good on it? it'd reduce the cooldown to 0.5 secs, so you'd be set right

mellow mango
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purity allows it to scale with attack speed but purity is also purity

split forum
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baseddddd

mellow mango
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prob not worth it imo but certainly an option

split forum
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im not gonna run purity but ill start doing nailgun + scrap instead of nailgun + nailgun

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it covers nailguns weaknesses and attack scaling doesnt matter bc you'll be using nailgun at that point to proc anyways LMAO

somber trellis
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i kind of like purity
(alt utility huntress purity in chat)

split forum
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i love purity

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the cooldown DPS addition makes up for the lack of procs

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and with only 1 you still proc quite alot

somber trellis
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acrid with alt m2 and purity like:
NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM

split forum
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the only reason why people hate on it is bc people are nerds who like looping 🙄

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for mythrix% it works just fine

somber trellis
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if you looping there is possibility to find clover to negate purity

split forum
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in fact its even better bc it means mythrix wont PROC A FUCKING ATK MISSILE AND MURDER YOU

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yeah but that feels lame

somber trellis
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bazaar's cauldrons: hi

split forum
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like clover is op and then you're just like "oh. im, back to normal. woo?"

somber trellis
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i'm not often playing luck-based builds

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so
what's the clover?

split forum
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pfffffff

somber trellis
vague lintel
floral forge
somber trellis
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oh yeah, how fast are you?

floral forge
vague lintel
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ive been switching weapons on mult for over 30 seconds

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and i cannot move

somber trellis
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why do we need void reaver's debuff if we can stack 100 tonic's afflictions?

vague lintel
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"Rookie numbers" - my friend in vc

split forum
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i really got overloading brass contraption'ed on my stage 4 mult run

somber trellis
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:)

split forum
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god fucking bless

vague lintel
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he wants me to get 150 stacks

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im doing it

somber trellis
vague lintel
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i was gonna obliterate anyways because i got the mult challenge done

split forum
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i hate that challenge, thats what im grinding rn

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like it requires playing mult

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who does that

vague lintel
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me

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mult is my #2 most played

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i had no choice but to obliterate

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i literally could not move or swap equips

split forum
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this is literally the worse

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why do you put yourself through this torture for fun femur

vague lintel
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robot fun

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mult is only beaten by artificer in % picked

split forum
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oh god you really are an machonist

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OH FRIEND

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wanna see something funny as shit

vague lintel
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perhaps

split forum
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look at this

vague lintel
split forum
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so wait

somber trellis
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my most times picked most is huntress

split forum
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u see this right @vague lintel

somber trellis
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and second is loader (speedrun attempts)

vague lintel
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yes i see that

split forum
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now

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watch this

vague lintel
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aight

split forum
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99% damage dealt

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it's not even close

vague lintel
split forum
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LMAO SO OTHERS HAVE THAT TOO

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ohhh

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we both did stage 50 runs and did insane amounts of damage huh

vague lintel
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the only reason captain is so high is because i hate him and trying to get his unlocks was hell

split forum
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i meant ur commando damage

vague lintel
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i was talking about % picked

split forum
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ik but

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am i right

vague lintel
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yse

split forum
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hahah i knew it, bc i saw commando and thought of the 20 stage achieve

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also looking at my chart, it's actually pretty balanced with the exception of acrid and loader

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only reason mult's dumbass is so high is bc of these DUMB ACHIEVMENTS

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otherwise they're for fun

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im suprised i play engie so often lmao

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only time mult is fun
saw mult
Saw mult
saw mult
and scrap mult im ngl im having a blast with this rocket launcher rn

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oh and saw mult

mellow mango
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I agree with clay dunestrider

frozen stratus
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I hate the sundred grove

floral forge
frozen stratus
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That's the thing it was my first time there and I see it's a windy twisty big map of garbage.

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It didn't help either that the teleporter lurked on the edge of the map

vital quail
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loader do be hitting hard

desert pollen
latent field
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mods are asleep post player profiles

desert pollen
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😅

latent field
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gaming

desert pollen
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yes

wise bronze
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is there any way to counteract the perfected's cripple ability?

split forum
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dodge

wise bronze
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the flying perfected flying chimera's gatling seems to be like 99% of why ive died now in the final stage

split forum
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press the A key when it starts shooting at you

wise bronze
split forum
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im being deadass, idk what advice you expect me to give

wise bronze
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oh legit?

split forum
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kill the fucker before it kills you and if you can't use your shift to move

wise bronze
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theyre just so bulky

split forum
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unless your a command runner

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in which case, teddies

wise bronze
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hard to kill you before you can kill it, i had a pretty high ass dps bandit run just now and if that run couldnt out do them idk what can

split forum
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shift -> run behind

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buy drones to distract

wise bronze
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granted i have made it to mythrix this past update but usually by the skin of my teeth

wise bronze
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i guess shift and going behind is the only counter i can think of but they group up in fucking swarms

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crazy shit

split forum
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perfected ones???

wise bronze
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actually i had shadowplay

split forum
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are you looping?? the difficulty should only be like 42 by the time your there on stage 6

wise bronze
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i wonder if it captured it

split forum
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lmk if you did

split forum
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oh, well that's why

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in that case; guilotine

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guiltones are your best friend

wise bronze
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yeah, didnt get many of those

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i had one, but legit this was a pretty strong dps run

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aight hop up lemmie see if i got it

split forum
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THATS WHY

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if you get atleast 4 gilos by the time you get back to stage 10 (which shouldnt be too hard with lunar seers and shi) you'll be golden

wise bronze
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LMAO THE VIDEO ENDED RIGHT AFTER i died

split forum
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otherwise the reason why looping runs die is a hard lack of dps, as malachites and perfected enemies are bulky as shit without a gulo post level 80

wise bronze
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hol up lemmie send my build

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2 fucking clovers

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😔

split forum
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you had some OP items but not enough healing

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like, at all where tf was your heals

tired juniper
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so uh...i just skipped mithrix's last phase by one shotting him with diablo as soon as phase 2 (chimera spawns) finished

wise bronze
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yeah basically all my items were utility or damage

split forum
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if you have aegis and nkuhanas you gotta prioritize healing more; if you did that, you could have outhealed the damage and taken them out with the skulls

wise bronze
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didnt have much choice in the matter most of the time lmao

tired juniper
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why did killing mithrix at the start of phase 3 skip phase 4

wise bronze
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maybe i should have looped again

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aight lesson learned, assess build more before deciding to go doink mithrix

split forum
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glad to haev helped friend

wise bronze
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i swear it was so much easier, every other run i had as mithrix or obliterate back 3 or 4 months ago before i took a break

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guess i lost my charm

tired juniper
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anyone know why one shotting mithrix at the start of phase 3 just skipped phase 4?

wise bronze
onyx atlas
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my acrid runs are always cursed

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I mean look at this

vital quail
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the strat with acrid is just to go fast

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doesnt need many items (if doing poison)

onyx atlas
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tried to hit and run

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and got rewarded by the bird drone

open loom
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someone take this game away from me

dull ingot
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i am telling you

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slicing winds + focused assault

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is the way to go

tired juniper
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does anyone here know if toomanyfriends works with the current version?

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last it was updated was for the 1.0 release, but the page doesn't say the mod doesn't work anymore

gloomy dune
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@tepid wolf So do I have to defeat 3 of my doppelgangers when they're spawned all together? Or can I kill and spawn them 1 by 1?

tawny plaza
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One by one

gloomy dune
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Ok

tired axle
gloomy dune
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I'm trying to unlock last loader ability

somber trellis
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it's me or this ability is bad?

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i feel like normal r is better idk why.......

tired axle
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it's like 2 as much damage as regular R, but it does have a way lower radius and doesn't deal with wisps as well

viscid saffron
tired axle
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i unlocked acrid

calm solstice
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Missile drone wtf

tawny plaza
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missile drone with behemoth sounds oddly satisfying

tired axle
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it was, also helped a lot during the mithrix fight since the targeting on the rockets actually sucks against faster enemies

merry karma
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acrid is new secret character??

polar anvil
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Yes

merry karma
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can i unlock acrid with swarms sacrifice command drizzle loader?

polar anvil
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No

somber trellis
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now i want to play as med drone

polar anvil
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How are you planning to deal damage

tired axle
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ya get tesla coil from your first chest

somber trellis
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how are you planning to get money

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ah yeah, barels

high torrent
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blood shrine

leaden crag
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use barrels and blood shrines until you can afford chests and then hope for items that can deal damage

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also buy turrets

somber trellis
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but increase their cooldown or off respawn completely

tired axle
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oh, also, drones can't use equipments because fuck you

somber trellis
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so if you didn't manage to save them you sucks

calm solstice
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What about playing as barrel

leaden crag
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pot buff best mod

somber trellis
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what about playing as a wall

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what about playing as a MAP

heavy lintel
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Yess I will play as void fields

ember heart
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I think i found a new contender for blazing clay templar

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Perfected lunar chimera wisp

vague vale
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what does perfected do again?

ember heart
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cripples you on hit

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also i just repaired a ducking equipment drone while fighting mithrix, and i had drugs

summer terrace
#

GG

ember heart
#

had to do phase 4 with 19 tonic afflictions

summer terrace
#

no way you make it to the ship in time like that

ember heart
#

prob not gonna make it through escape

hybrid junco
#

i think another enemy i hate along with the blazing templar is blazing fungus things

#

forgot the name tbh. the mushroom guys

heavy lintel
#

What happens if you fail escape

vague vale
heavy lintel
#

There isn’t

hybrid junco
#

you probably die

heavy lintel
#

I’ll test later

ember heart
#

you die

heavy lintel
#

Ohh ok

ember heart
#

you just die to planet

#

for cause of death

heavy lintel
#

Does it still count as a win

ember heart
#

no

#

bruh i'm tilted

#

why tf are equipment drones repairable

heavy lintel
#

So you can give them bfg

ember heart
#

it already had a bfg

#

i was repurchasing drones on phase 3 cause why not and i wasn't even aware this thing is repairable

heavy lintel
#

Ohh also why would you stop to repair a drone during the fight

ember heart
#

had to go through 1/4 of phase 3 and all of phase 4 with 19 afflictions

ember heart
#

they drag minion aggro

heavy lintel
#

I never do as that’s happened before to me but at stage 2

ember heart
#

I've had way more cancerous experiences than good ones with equipment drones

#

and to add insult to the injury i get hit by 3 pillars in a row while snail walking my way to the ship

summer terrace
#

equip drone with the backup op against mithrix

#

he will literally never target you

heavy lintel
#

I normally get one with radar if I find a radar and equipment drone on same stage

ember heart
#

yeah i died on 70% ship charge

heavy lintel
#

Rip

#

Still haven’t played new update

ember heart
heavy lintel
smoky nexus
#

I do love captain's nuke

polar anvil
#

Death

high shoal
#

outskilled

heavy lintel
summer terrace
#

39

azure otter
#

All the artifacts

hexed raft
azure otter
#

It involved standing on top of a rock for an hour and a half

#

I switched to controller because my hand cramped from holding down mouse 1

stoic matrix
timber pivot
#

The fucking what

late phoenix
#

Jade elephant? Pog?

heavy lintel
#

Combined with jade elephant

timber pivot
#

That's like fucking 60% damage reduction

jagged wraith
#

Guess multi is gonna be my jade elephant build for life

timber pivot
#

You are invincible

#

Not mentioning the armor stat mult starts with

#

Or his shift

latent field
#

i wanna try doing command with mult and only getting repulsion plates

#

who needs damage or utility when you just, dont die

limpid ginkgo
#

Another way to do all artifacts is as many shaped glass as you can and sac dags

scarlet matrix
latent field
#

mul-t next utility turns you into a literal tank

unique bluff
#

Transformers!

severe chasm
#

It's as broken as you think

unique bluff
#

Jade elephant on top of that

somber trellis
#

н

dusky copper
#

does spinel tonics health regen buff un-synergy with heretic make you have neg regen even if you have slugs?

#

oh theres a game question chat

calm solstice
#

double scrap mult purity yes or no

unique bluff
#

Yes

hybrid vault
#

yes

mellow mango
#

No Purity 😎😳happiesttroll Loader Strides_of_Heresy

latent field
#

based purity

gilded flower
#

ok uh

#

how many stacks of crowbars do you need to instakill everything?

#

have 21 atm

high torrent
#

it's just never enough

gilded flower
#

let's say im 25 mins in (drizzle for unlocks)

#

and i have 21 stacks

#

is that enough

high torrent
#

try bonking a yellow man

tulip nimbus
#

"Enough is never enough" - RJ

#

Over the Hedge

gilded flower
#

instakilled a worship unit

#

is that enough? happiesttroll

high torrent
#

and it's not even arpils fools

#

i was genuinely scared and thought this was a bug

gilded flower
#

whaaa

bitter ridge
#

with the new update , i'm now scared of drone killing me by pushing me in eclipse mode lmao

dull kindle
#

When you're standing still and having a good time but the drone litghtly taps you and disables your bungus field:

scarlet matrix
#

So what y’all’s favorite Ror boss?

brave relic
#

Imp Overlord

#

cool lad

scarlet matrix
primal phoenix
#

Grovetender or Overloading Worm

scarlet matrix
#

Bandit + Shatterspleen = DrizzleHype

sonic beacon
#

are there any community agreed upon tierlists?

polar anvil
#

no because tierlists are bad

sonic beacon
#

lol why

polar anvil
#

because they are

sonic beacon
#

oh ok you convinced me, have a great day

#

.-.

blazing lagoon
#

thoughts on this? someone made this on reddit happiesttroll

drifting solstice
#

Anyone here play on Xbox

foggy widget
#

there's visions, strides, essence, and hooks

foggy widget
blazing lagoon
#

idk, maybe he means hooks cuz it looks like talon

#

at least i think visions shouldn't replace laser sword, and essence should replace commando r

mellow mango
blazing lagoon
#

is it just me or hooks isn't that great? it needs to charge but unlike arti's right click it feels very clunky to use

brave relic
#

you just need to charge it for range

#

it's free 1000% damage + root

blazing lagoon
#

but at least i wouldn't replace laser swords with visions

mellow mango
#

Hooks is good ya

brave relic
#

imagine taking visions on merc.mp4

blazing lagoon
#

if he means very late game, that point you can just sw into dash into m2 to expose

brave relic
#

but yeah it could be a joke, but since they did even try to argument their takes, I think it's legit

#

which gives me pain

mellow mango
#

I love how they say visions on engi is “debatable”

#

But it’s good if you run those garbage mobile turrets 😏

blazing lagoon
#

but laser sword can carry u in first loop, which is almost the entire point of some runs

brave relic
#

visions engi = debatable
visions merc = yes

blazing lagoon
#

maybe he's engineer main, who knows

mellow mango
#

Visions merc bad

blazing lagoon
#

I don't want to think that hemorrhage is underwhelming, it's a very cool concept

brave relic
#

hey, more reasons to backstab bastards

blazing lagoon
brave relic
#

the damage dot is pretty strong

blazing lagoon
#

i guess you can build on that with purity, atk speed and stuff

#

each of bandit's abilities allow you to build on it, like desperado

brave relic
#

yeah, and also, if you feel like it's really that dangerous to go around proccing hemmorrahage, just get the serrated shiv

mellow mango
#

I think hooks is a decent alternative for bandit tbh

brave relic
#

yeah

#

hooks is good

blazing lagoon
#

if you think that way then clearly shiv is superior

#

no way you're gonna melee mithrix every time

brave relic
#

just don't get hit lmao happiesttroll

blazing lagoon
#

yes bandit's shotgun is pretty good, but if you're into m1 why don't you play captain

summer terrace
#

I would redo it but I would just put yes for everything

brave relic
summer terrace
brave relic
lime palm
#

am i playing right

marsh herald
#

am I playing right also?

deep pecan
#

damn I would hate to lose the incredibly valuable commando shift ability in favor of a get-out-of-jail free card that gets you out of literally any dangerous situation while also healing you on a short cooldown

#

the default shift, no less

late vault
#

I keep dying very early on in monsoon runs. Any tips?

oak grove
#

how early? like first stage? stage < 4?

vocal yarrow
#

Welp, I guess I'm getting me caps mastery in this run

tulip nimbus
#

Don't throw

queen condor
#

normally there is this black background for the stats

#

but somehow this happened

#

anyone else see this?

mighty bloom
#

if i put my wood spirit into an equipment drone, will it still only target me?

tulip nimbus
#

Whats happening

pine latch
#

i moved my question to the game question channel

tulip nimbus
#

Gotcha

blazing lagoon
#

wait did woolie just simp for crowdfunder

#

EXTREMELY

brave relic
#

Unnaceptable

neon falcon
#

Boops

#

So, how is Focused Assault compared to Blinding Assault? I personally like BA more cause you get three which give you more move and damage overall

#

But FA gives exposed which I think could be p good for quick CD resets. Although I do have a harder time capitalizing off of it.

brave relic
#

yes FA giving exposed is good, and it does more direct damage meaning you will get more uses of those proc items except for bleed

#

but BA allows more mobility, i-frames and the WW cancel

mellow mango
#

I have found them to be generally quite balanced myself

brave relic
#

oh and the M1 extension

mellow mango
#

I would recommend whichever is more fun

brave relic
neon falcon
mellow mango
#

M1 extension you can do with both btw

brave relic
#

oh yeah nvm I though the FA procceed exposed only in the first hit

#

but the M1 extension prob has a bigger hitbox

pine oxide
#

M1 extension with FA is amazing

#

I was doing great damage even when I brought eviscerate
Like ??? how

tepid wolf
#

Also FA is insane with behemoth

#

Like expose in general, since behemoth makes everything apply 2 expose stacks

tawny plaza
#

idk how easy/hard that'd be but it certainly wouldn't be practical since equipment drone would trigger it so often

neon falcon
#

So stacking Exposed more than once is possible?

tepid wolf
#

Yes with behemoth

#

Which is as broken as it sounds when used with slicing winds/focused assault

neon falcon
#

Heck yes awesome! Im learning so much haha!

brave relic
#

Merc's sword when he picks up behemoth be like

shy grove
#

If I started a run pre-update with save mod, will I be able to get the new items?

high shuttle
#

Ah, yes

tired glen
#

is the uhhh captain nuke a joke item or sth

#

or should one amp up on tougher times in the hopes they dont get obliterated

brave relic
#

you pretty much just throw it in a boss you are certain it cannot move
or you kite enemies around the radius until the nuke is getting close

tired glen
#

how does one manage to kill mithryx with the supply pod then

#

it has to stnd still somehow

tepid wolf
#

Do it when he uses the orb slam

tired glen
#

is the strat for that "build 150 AP" or

fast oracle
#

Unless you stack goat hooves like crazy, mythrix is very slow

#

So whittle him down and then drop a supply pod on him

tepid wolf
#

Just avoid certain on hits

tired glen
#

does it count if he slurps up items

tepid wolf
#

Crowdfunder is nice for this achievement

tired glen
#

or is that what you mean with orb

tepid wolf
#

No the blue orbs that rapidly go around the arena after the hits the ground

fast oracle
#

It's one of his self damage attacks after he takes your items

tired glen
#

do AP proq on the supply pod

#

or is it a one in a million whackamole challenge

#

and i take it has to be the "resupply ammo" pod?

tepid wolf
#

No just get him super low

fast oracle
#

Get him super low, bring dios in case you miss both

tepid wolf
#

Beacons do 2000% damage on landing

tired glen
#

no AP proq

#

oh lord

#

and here i was, almost starting another 90 min run to get it

tepid wolf
#

Just like use crowdfunder to shoot invidual bullets

brave relic
tepid wolf
#

Also do a 6 stage Mithrix

tired glen
#

you telling me to speedrun?

#

and does it have to be ammo resupply pod or can it be any actual usefull pod

brave relic
#

any pod

tired glen
#

so i got 2 chances

brave relic
#

yes

tired glen
#

👍 still aids without AP but will manage

#

i hope

tepid wolf
#

Yes it does good damage

tired glen
#

then the only challenge is the handling the RSI you get from captain

tepid wolf
#

But yep crowdfunder is really good for it

tired glen
#

going in with swarm and command artifact

tepid wolf
#

Allows you to fire invidual bullets so you don't melt him when he is low

tired glen
#

if i had the 500% dmg at 10% hp i'd take it too

compact hound
#

my R had a sub one second recharge time lmao

sturdy hamlet
#

just bought risk of rain 2 but my computer can't run it
feels bad man woolie1Ham

errant gyro
#

Is this impressive?

ocean lichen
#

what you think of this

cyan leaf
#

i wish it showed how many loops you've done

dull ingot
frosty quest
#

is it just me or is focused assault super underpowered?

#

with blinding you can do 900 dmg when you hit all three

#

even if you only hit two you're still dealing 600, plus an escape option

dull ingot
#

its up to prefrence

#

i like the alt more since i think it procs bands

frosty quest
#

i mean m2 already does that when you have expose

dull ingot
#

true i guess

#

getting 700% or whatever it is and exposed is too gud for me to go back

frosty quest
#

it's nice to put it all in one place i guess, but with blinding you can do 900% plus more immunity frames

dull ingot
#

i frames are nice but like, you got eviscerate for that

#

which is long enough to dodge stuff

frosty quest
#

but what if that's on cooldown

dull ingot
#

your merc, you got double jump

#

the less i frames dont matter

frosty quest
#

it kinda does when it comes to stuff with aoe and hitscan

#

the double jump is nice, but straight up invincibility is a little better imo

#

if it's fun 4 you tho, go right ahead

pallid minnow
#

exposed reduces cooldowns

frosty quest
#

this is true

#

but there's other stuff that also inflicts exposed

pallid minnow
#

if you hit a lot of enemies with that you can potentially get more I frames

brave relic
#

you can't do the WW cancel with FA 😔

frosty quest
#

i think it should be buffed a bit

brave relic
#

nah, it gives you somewhat of a reason to take eviscerate

pallid minnow
#

anyways i was actually here to say that im pretty sure that grandparents director cost is 1150 or 10 elder lemurians

brave relic
#

also gives you in a way a M1 extension without having to perfectly hit your third slash from your M1

#

which can definitaly help in longer rungs

frosty quest
#

this is also true

#

but i feel like the extra mobility and i frames is also really helpful in longer runs

#

along with the potential for more damage overall

brave relic
#

the i-frames on BA is too minimum to protect you from all the chaos happening in the longer runs

#

also considering you are that far you are going to have a good amount of good proc items

#

like only bleed is not TOTAL damage, meaning FA would be proccing really strong proc items

frosty quest
#

that's true, but with BA you're going to be proccing more often

brave relic
#

PPS most of the time don't matter

pallid minnow
#

who needs to proc more on long runs when by the time you reach a enemy they are allready dead

frosty quest
#

more enemies can be dead if you proc stuff more often

brave relic
#

PPS matters for like, bleed only

#

it's really beneficial to do more damage for the proc items

#

you could proc like 10 AtGs, but if it's something like from MUL-T's nailgun, that really not much damage

#

while if proc a singular AtG with FA by example you could prob oneshot like a golem or a beetle guard

pallid minnow
#

also your not going to be doing the majority of the procing from BA

#

thats probably evicerates job

#

and reducing that cooldown really helps

brave relic
#

yeah, it scales with attack speed

pallid minnow
#

I still take BA only because of movement and the fact im used to it, but other than that theres no other reason i take it

frosty quest
#

i'll try FA some more, but I still think BA is a lot better for staying alive

#

which can become really important when most things start to kill you in a few shots

#

or getting smacked by a malachite

#

cause with FA, it's one attack and then you gotta wait 8 seconds

#

that's also true for the last attack of BA, but with that you have more opportunities to access the situation and get outta there

brave relic
#

Well yes FA works more like of a Slicing Winds vs Eviscerate

frosty quest
#

the 8 secs can somwhat be mitigated by evis, but that relies on it being up

brave relic
#

you trade mobility and survivability for damage

pallid minnow
#

Grandparents are weird

frosty quest
#

earlier on at least, FA feels like it's not doing much more damage

brave relic
frosty quest
#

but you gotta hit them with something else before getting that proc

brave relic
#

so unless you like, miss FA or hit few enemies, you can rapidly get the exposed procs to get evis at low cooldown

frosty quest
pallid minnow
#

Grandparents have 3 attacks, 2 of them which are not affected wether they are elite or not.

frosty quest
#

they remind me of risk 1 bosses

pallid minnow
#

They hurt other enemies

brave relic
#

I cannot imagine the amount of damage a malachite grandparent sun would do

frosty quest
#

too scary having nightmares

pallid minnow
#

Their director cost is 1150 making grandparents the lowest hp to cost ratio besides scavengers

frosty quest
#

to get a malchite grandparent you would need an immense amount of mountain shrines

#

or difficulty scaling

pallid minnow
#

actually no magma worm and overloading worm take that spot for the 2nd lowest and solus control units for third so grandparents would be 4th

#

Their boss item is a flat hp heal per damage hit which can basically only be obtained at stage 5+ which after that point most enemies do a bunch of damage

#

and they are large

#

also grandparents younger than child!

wise bronze
#

do shield gens still eat your OHP?

brave relic
#

they don't eat your OSP, only have a weird interaction with it

#

they are still worth picking up since their give a lot of hp

#

it's not good relying on OSP since it can easily fail you

pallid minnow
#

Most enemies dont do too much damage even in the late game

#

They will deal enough to wipe your hp bar without shield gens tho

raw hemlock
#

Apparently a gesture of the drowned, sawmerang, and 45 fuel cells at the mithrix boss fight causes a fucking unity error

cold crystal
#

i tried to play as loader and this character stupid and fun

raw hemlock
#

And the host just said he skipped the last stage of the fight somehow

cold crystal
#

i was doing nothing but flying around and i suddenly got to stage 5

raw hemlock
#

Gesture op volv please fix

toxic wadi
#

you know

#

i dont think most people realize that, with planula, you can basically negate DoT debuffs like bleed and burn. its kinda busted.

brave relic
#

yeah it's just a more efficient armor plating

#

but becomes pretty meh when you can in fact get your hands on it

teal kindle
#

I feel like it would be busted if you could get it early stages

brave relic
#

yes

teal kindle
#

But by stage 5 it's just okay

#

It'd be great if you were doing the hellfire meme

turbid phoenix
#

Hey guys, just wanted to share that I got my hands onto the new reprint of the OST on vinyl ❤️ new to the server huntresssip

tulip nimbus
#

Thats awesome bro

wise bronze
#

well lads i beat mithrix with bandit on monsoon

#

and for the first time with this game, i think im gonna cheat, i was 500 health away from killing him with the revolver and bleed stole my fucking kill

#

so frankly, i think im ok with taking it this time

solar steppe
#

Anyone know what this Hidden Realm is?

bright palm
solar steppe
#

Thank god. It was the last thing left in my logbook and I thought I was missing something big

wise bronze
#

i need validation DrizzleCry

bright palm
#

Command isn't cheating

solar steppe
wise bronze
#

😢

gloomy dune
#

I want this heresy gone

solar steppe
#

Don't you like ending your runs on 8/9 in the voids fields?

rare heart
mossy garden
#

chef

somber trellis
#

if i want mul-t alt r i need to go in void after stage 7?

dull ingot
#

yes?

grave mica
#

no it can be either stage 7 or after

somber trellis
#

ok thx

tired juniper
#

yeeeap i'm pretty surediablo strike is bugged

somber trellis
#

waitwaitwait

tired juniper
#

won't hit other players

somber trellis
#

artifact now needs 5 keys?

mossy garden
#

@polar anvil improved ai pathfinding

rare heart
#

He's trying to figure out how to double-jump it.

mossy garden
#

what a loser

#

i dont even know how it ended up there in the first place tbh

radiant cloud
#

salut ! est ce qu'il y a des francais ?

silk spoke
#

how long would you say it takes to unlock everything in the game

#

on a fresh profile

#

without editing the game file

dawn lantern
#

dont know if anyone cares but i jus got 1 bilion damage in one hit against mythrix stage 20

#

non modded

high torrent
#

it took me something like 100 hours

#

and roughly a month

silk spoke
#

challenge accepted

high torrent
#

k, good luck

silk spoke
#

yeah i did a hacker man move and just unlocked everything in the game files on my first profile

#

now i feel bad

high torrent
#

honestly, ror2 isn't the hardest game to do 100%
damn terara with its fishing and isaac with absolutely insane challenges

dawn lantern
#

laaaaame

#

yeeee

#

still havent beaten terraria

#

becayse of the fishing quests

silk spoke
#

i am gonna edit in some lunar coins though

high torrent
#

yeah, lunars are well designed as two side coins

#

except for one certain item

#

which i never take unless im struggling a lot

silk spoke
#

you mean tonic

#

or shaped glass

high torrent
#

nah, gesture

dawn lantern
#

yo do yall play modded?

high torrent
#

it literally has no downsides

high torrent
silk spoke
#

a lot

dawn lantern
#

if no, whats ur highest damage?

high torrent
#

there are a handful of mods that work fine right now

dawn lantern
#

in one hit

#

tryna goal set

silk spoke
high torrent
#

lol, really? i never noticed

dawn lantern
#

it should tell u in ur stats yo

high torrent
#

i don't really look at that stuff honestly, only maybe when stacks aren't additive

silk spoke
#

yeah for the tri tip daggers it showed how many beetles i would have per stack

#

because beetle gaurd

high torrent
#

lol wuuuut

#

this is so funny

silk spoke
#

i just deleted all mods for now

#

rip proper save

high torrent
#

proper save should work already, it got updated recently

#

yeah, two days ago

somber trellis
#

what's the proper save?

high torrent
#

mechanic behind this thing is that it creates a save file each time you entering a new stage, you can close the game, and when you're back to the char select, there's load button on bottom right, clicking it will send you into the stage where you've been last time

#

really helpful if you experiencing a lot of crashes

somber trellis
#

i'd want to try but

#

nah

high torrent
#

its ok

#

just a qol mod

#

need to go somewhere and don't wanna abort the run? proper save.

ocean lichen
acoustic trellis
#

Oh dear, I've found a way to play Artificer as MUL-T.

tacit phoenix
acoustic trellis
#

yes except quick switch off of Chrysalis as you activate it.

#

You get put into a permanent levitation

tacit phoenix
#

They still didn't fix that?

acoustic trellis
#

lol, apparently not

obtuse karma
polar anvil
obtuse karma
#

ok sorry

#

1st time here

fervent haven
#

Pictures taken before disasters

tame perch
#

everyone listen

#

Crowdfunder bad

ember heart
#

daily reminder to not pick up gesture when you have crowdfunder

#

it's the most pitiful way to kill a run

tame perch
#

yea i played whit a guy who picked up 4 gestures whit a crowdfunder
like......why ?

ember heart
#

it doesn't matter how many

#

i really forgot i found this garbage on first level and bought the 2 gestures i found at newt

#

and now i'm stuck unable to buy anything to even replace it

tame perch
#

sucks

ember heart
#

essence of heresy is really good on mando

silk spoke
#

beetle queens spawn too many beetle guards

dull ingot
#

anybody feel that the bandit has a really high skill floor? i always find my runs at the end of the first loop or the start of my second. now this high skill is completely justifiable with the sheer damage output.

polar anvil
#

i dont think so?

silk spoke
#

i get that they'd wanna buff the beetle queen but this is just too much

polar anvil
#

they spawn two on swarms so i assume its 1 withou

dull ingot
#

im not complaining mind you, i just find bandit to be pretty tough to play.

polar anvil
#

i find him fun and not particularly hard

silk spoke
#

bandid might be a bit op

arctic vine
#

I use crowdfunder when I’m doing a sac run, but that’s only really if I get one

silk spoke
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but i don't mind

arctic vine
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Might as well poor money into the enemies

bright palm
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beetle queens spawn two beetle guards, four on swarms

polar anvil
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o

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so its still 4x less guards on swarms,im not seeing particular problem

bright palm
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elite beetle queens got a little bit scary all of a sudden

silk spoke
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now imagine 4 beetle queens that keep spawning beetle guards

ember heart
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it's extremely obnoxious on first level

polar anvil
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just get good

silk spoke
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they went from easy win to a brick wall

ember heart
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it's only ever really a problem very early on tho

arctic vine
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Still the scariest part of beetle queen is if she farts on you, no amount of OSP can save you from that

polar anvil
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disagree try gasoline on swarms soul beeble queens

ember heart
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stage1-2

silk spoke
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i'm not having any good luck unlocking everything in the game

polar anvil
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mfw i experience beeble queen stage 1 along with a deskplant frop from one

mossy garden
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mfw

silk spoke
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i just had a run where my only bosses was either a magma worm or beetle queen

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the latter was where i met my demise

polar anvil
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oh okay i died to stage 2 queen

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fuck you for cursing my run with beeble queens

mossy garden
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what improved ai pathfinding does to a mf

ember heart
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mithrix phase 4 got hit so hard i honestly feel bad for him

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If i can get through it with 19 tonic afflictions on average no loop run then something is wrong

shadow pagoda
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Is it just me or does artifact of swarms cause less items to drop from enemies?

polar anvil
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no

tulip nimbus
glacial onyx
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!!!!!!

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at last, i am free

next bramble
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The other day I had a game where I got 8 reds in the first 4 stages

unreal egret
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Sir please let the leprechaun go

pure turret
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gd2

west shuttle
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Did a merc run yesterday cause hes in the trailer and i was like why not. Its been so long since i picked up the game and it had that new game buzz. It was so great

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Also it was a very fast run. I had always thought ror2 was a game you couldn't just top on and do a run really quick with, but i stand corrected

dusk onyx
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Damn son, he's pretty fun lol rnjesus been on my side

winter pecan
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Do drones affect Empathy cores damage?

fallow depot
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the more drones you have, the more damage they do im pretty sure

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yeah, any ally should work

winter pecan
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So in theory, The backup should work as well no?

fallow depot
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hmm wiki says per ally on your team, i assume so?

winter pecan
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That would be nice

fallow depot
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that does sound nice.
oh imagine empathy cores captain with equipment drones with the backup

winter pecan
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And Backup with gesture/ fuel cells

tired juniper
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two hacked shrines of chance, two aegises

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why'd it have to be aegises

brazen gazelle
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Bandit one-shot desperado:

Greys: crowbars, 10 crits
Greens: Guillotines, harvester scythe, 3 fuel cells, one set of bands (Focused on desperado one shot rather than band damage and band damage doesnt count for stacks)
Red: Brainstalks
lunar: 2 purity (lets you stack tokens super fast), Gesture of the drowned, spinal tonic

^^ Anyone else have any suggestions to make this better ?

scarlet matrix
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Absolute god run

brazen gazelle
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Bandit one-shot desperado:

Greys: crowbars, 10 crits, some hooves obviously
Greens: Guillotines, harvester scythe, 3 fuel cells, one set of bands (Focused on desperado one shot rather than band damage and band damage doesnt count for tokens), also bezerkers pauldron
Red: Brainstalks, Brilliant behemoth (explody)
lunar: 2 purity (lets you stack tokens super fast), Gesture of the drowned, spinal tonic, Shaped glass (optional)

brazen gazelle
scarlet matrix
brazen gazelle
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whaaa

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who tf is that am i living under a rock or what

scarlet matrix
brazen gazelle
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ah i see

scarlet matrix
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I also have a mod that makes elite aspects good

fickle mirage
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panula and corpsebloom work together?

fervent haven
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and mbe syringes for a quicker spin

austere fulcrum
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I'm playing acrid to poison mithrix down to 1 health so my friend can use their ability lights out to get their final unlock, so I don't really want to get any other damage-over-time items and damaging items but those are the only ones acrid uses, what items do I get?

high torrent
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gasoline, willowisp

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generally on kills

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guillotines

fervent haven
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The way I got that is to use only lights out on his final phase making sure not to pick up anything that deals damage

cosmic maple
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This seems rare

silk spoke
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i can't do shit today

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any run with huntress that goes well

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dies

scarlet matrix
silk spoke
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isn't it

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i hate unlocking the gesture

scarlet matrix
silk spoke
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those stupid hermits

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well time to go suffer i guess

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still need to get to stage 20 and oblit as huntress

scarlet matrix
silk spoke
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i'm playing as huntress

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i don't wanna do commando

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or atleast not rn

scarlet matrix
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I know but that achievement still sucks

silk spoke
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true

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my face when i get to stage 5 and the first thing i see is a glacial elder lemarian on the other side of the map

silk spoke
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the pain

scarlet matrix
silk spoke
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who cares about overloady wormy thingy when you you have spleeny

scarlet matrix
calm patio
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overload>spleen

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fight me

silk spoke
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idk if i should trade spleen for overload

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cause i've been hearingit's good

scarlet matrix
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Bandit + Shatterspleen = DrizzleHype

tepid wolf
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Good god eclipse 2 has turned commencement into literal hell

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Half the pillar zones are not a good time. Especially when only 1 of each pillar type spawns, which means that you somehow need to complete pillar of soul with it