gd2-nullified

[broken ginkgo]

Goodluck always leaving teleporter range in order to use it on full potential

[slow condor]

well if you need to move out of the area to punch then you will be just wasting time

makes sense doesn't it

[gloomy dune]

Ok I'll try your combo

How do I combat the burn?

[slow condor]

get a single topaz brooch

even thats not really needed

[broken ginkgo]

[slow condor]

the damage from helfire is pretty insignificant

[gloomy dune]

Ok

[slow condor]

repulsion armor plating also helps

[broken ginkgo]

Just take 2-3 razorwires so they will reach Tesla range

[gloomy dune]

Alright

What's a good boss item to back that combo up? @broken ginkgo @slow condor

[slow condor]

planula

[broken ginkgo]

Urine also good

[slow condor]

makes you kinda immortal

[gloomy dune]

Ok

planula + aegis = immortal?

[slow condor]

probably

can still die from malachite cause it cancels healing if you get hit

[gloomy dune]

Oh yeah

[broken ginkgo]

Beatles / lemurian will spawn at best on stage 8

So not that dangerous

You always can get for extra protection

[gloomy dune]

I got another boss item, should I get another planula?

@slow condor @broken ginkgo

[slow condor]

not worth it
get perforator
either one is fine

[gloomy dune]

Ok

[broken ginkgo]

All boss items are just busted, you can get shattererspleen if you got glasses

[gloomy dune]

Alright

I'm cracked on stage 2

No void fields

I'm in the void fields with these

[timber pivot]

[gloomy dune]

Oh yeah

That worthless thing

[plain briar]

it's good with

[broken ginkgo]

It’s useful when I got swarmed, I just jump of the map and clear whole area

[timber pivot]

Most of the time if you're gonna die it's from damage that'll kill you if you're below 50% hp

Also it takes 50 years to release the nova

[broken ginkgo]

Depends on your item set

[gloomy dune]

Do work whenis activated?

[broken ginkgo]

Few Firring speed items makes you able to release in few moments

[broken ginkgo]

Yes

[gloomy dune]

Cracked

[timber pivot]

DON'T ACTIVATE IT IT WORKS ON YOU TOO

[gloomy dune]

I have

[timber pivot]

Oh

Cool

[gloomy dune]

And

[timber pivot]

Pc shenanigans

[gloomy dune]

and

And

On Loader

On stage 2

Doing void fields RN

[tepid wolf]

Spleen on loader is not even that good

[gloomy dune]

It doesn't matter

[broken ginkgo]

He has razorwire combo

[tepid wolf]

Yeah it's command artifact

[gloomy dune]

I have to use it

[tepid wolf]

So free god run basically

[gloomy dune]

It's I'll end it on stage 8 when I finish Swing By

Which I'm painstaking doing now

[tepid wolf]

I mean you don't need those to do it

[gloomy dune]

I need OP run for it, or else I can't do it

[tepid wolf]

Just put it on drizzle to speedrun it

[gloomy dune]

I do, I'm bad at game, I am on drizzle

[tepid wolf]

Put sacrifice on to also get some items

[gloomy dune]

Swing By needs to be done under 25 minutes

Stage 8 in 25

[timber pivot]

has a flat regen right?

[gloomy dune]

Flat but instant

Even if you burn

[timber pivot]

is going to Brazil

[gloomy dune]

HAHAHAHAHA

[timber pivot]

[gloomy dune]

Soggy item

[tepid wolf]

Not really without a specific build it's awful

[gloomy dune]

is cracked with

[tepid wolf]

Since it only drops from the grandparent on stage 5

[tepid wolf]

It's 3 repulsions against anything with 15 or more damage

Which a lot of things are at stage 5 where it drops

So unless you have a tincture razorwire build with enough repulsions to bring the self damage to 15 or below it's just 3 repulsions

[gloomy dune]

@broken ginkgo + = cracked?

[broken ginkgo]

It’s red item so yes

[gloomy dune]

Well not all red items are cracked

I'm talking about the combo

[tepid wolf]

If you have enough dmg reduction though

[gloomy dune]

As in

[broken ginkgo]

Yes, it’s op

[tepid wolf]

Also if RNGesu somehow gives you a rare boss item and 1 specific red item

A bunch of repulsions

Also not having focus crystals or crowbars

Or not too high HP

[slow condor]

command artifact be like
hi

[gloomy dune]

I already have using command, I'm doing void fields, should I get ?

[tepid wolf]

Yep

Just get the tincture tick damage below 15

[gloomy dune]

IDK what math means

[tepid wolf]

So you can heal as well on top launching the skulls

[mossy garden]

[gloomy dune]

So uh

I just wanna shoot skulls constantly, can I do that if I get with what I already have or?

I don't quite understand the mechanics behind

Do I need to take specific amounts of damage to fire skulls?

[tepid wolf]

No it relies on how much you heal

Basically
More healing = more skulls
More max HP = more damage per skull

[gloomy dune]

I take 2 damage per burn tick

[slow condor]

doesnt matter

[gloomy dune]

And instantly regain 15 with

[slow condor]

ah aait

wait

[gloomy dune]

I just don't wanna waste a red item

[tepid wolf]

It's command though

Also rejuv rack doubles planula heals

[gloomy dune]

Holy shit

I want rack

[slow condor]

just get whatever honestly

it doesnt matter really
youre only going up to stage 8

[gloomy dune]

No I wanna survive until stage 8 and go there ASAP

I need to think carefully

[slow condor]

yea youll make it easily if you dont stand and waste time on purpose

[gloomy dune]

Ok

[tepid wolf]

You can literally AFK and not die

[slow condor]

^

[tepid wolf]

That's how busted that combo is anyway

[gloomy dune]

True

Good

@slow condor @tepid wolf @broken ginkgo

Thanks you guys

[broken ginkgo]

ice

[gloomy dune]

I'm able to sleep again

[tepid wolf]

Nice, now you have the direct upgrade M2

[gloomy dune]

OOOOOOOoooooooo

Eh

Spike Fist?

Really? Couldn't come up with anything more creative?

How about Dommy Mommy Fist?

I like it already

"As loader, kill three other loaders in bulwark's ambry"

3 other loaders?

[tepid wolf]

Not as hard as it sounds

[gloomy dune]

What

[tepid wolf]

Use the vengeance artifact code

[gloomy dune]

How?-

Oh. God.

[tepid wolf]

Each key in the ambry spawns a doppelganger

[gloomy dune]

Oh ok

[tepid wolf]

Also spiked fist pulls you in too

[gloomy dune]

Ez

[tepid wolf]

Not an issue though

[gloomy dune]

That's a job for future Shiggy

I need some shut eye

[tepid wolf]

Surprisingly the doppelganger didn't deal all that much damage

One band proc also just killed it

[gloomy dune]

I'm excited how they're gonna tweak the weird hover Tesla coil thingy

Don't tell me

[tepid wolf]

It's not a floating thingy

Not gonna tell more

[gloomy dune]

Oooooooooo

I loved when I got ||spider mines|| on ||engi||

They're so badass

[polar anvil]

yeah theyre bad and ass

[slow condor]

better than default mines

wouldn't know tho, only picked engi once as a joke or something

[rocky scroll]

anyone try this build
Litterally delete 3 phase in 3 R

[tranquil night]

Umbras deal less damage than you but have more health.

[slow condor]

why did you even waste the reds on clovers

you have no proc items l0l

[quartz saffron]

why you no predatory instincts

[shy vale]

2 clovers when there is nothing to proc lol

[polar anvil]

pog

[forest fog]

What killed me

[summer terrace]

fuel array

wait no that's the fusion array

[polar anvil]

whats fusion cell

[forest fog]

I didn't pick the Rex item up?

[summer terrace]

the little explosive thingies on rallypoint delta

[quartz saffron]

a pot/barrel perhaps?

[forest fog]

OH

[summer terrace]

yeah lol

[forest fog]

That's fucked up

I've died to barrels due to Bandit smoke 3 times now

[quartz saffron]

that's why i shoot those down in advance

[summer terrace]

LOL I hate losing runs to those bc it's always my fault

[polar anvil]

OUTPLAYED

[quartz saffron]

idk why ppl don't take them out

[south forge]

How do you make a server with more than 4 people on it?

[polar anvil]

get good

[summer terrace]

check pins #ror2-modding

[forest fog]

They usually haven't mattered for me I'm just learning Bandit right now and it's coming up now Hasn't matter while I played Captain/Loader/whatever before though

Bandit hard

[summer terrace]

bandit OP but yeah I forget that smoke bomb does damage

[quartz saffron]

i like his mobility from smoke bomb + the extra jumps

[summer terrace]

yes it rules

[polar anvil]

merc 2.0

[summer terrace]

big fan of bandit

[forest fog]

I like how much DPS he can do

[slow condor]

perma smokebomb uptime with hardlight is fun

[summer terrace]

his dps is actually insane

[polar anvil]

sus dps

[summer terrace]

1000% damage per burst shot

normal and balanced

[forest fog]

The smoke jump sometimes messes me up when I try to use the reset ngl

I forget accounting for it

[summer terrace]

heh yeah

[forest fog]

I would've liked Miner but Bandit is fun too

Just a man with 2 pickaxes sounded funny to me

[summer terrace]

miner is hilarious

crazed man flailing pickaxes like a madman kills God

[forest fog]

I remember hearing RoR1 Miner is comparable to current Merc though

[summer terrace]

yeah sort of

idk if you've tried the miner mod

[quartz saffron]

i never got the hang of miner in 1

[summer terrace]

but it's pretty good

[forest fog]

I haven't tried any mods

[forest fog]

I never unlocked Miner in 1 I barely played the game for some reason, probably cause of the janky multiplayer system being hard to set up

I 100%ed RoR2 before the update though

👁️

[pine matrix]

I just finished 100%ing it like 5 minutes ago

that includes all the logs too

good game, huh

[heavy lintel]

I need to get the logs and abilities but have all trophies

[somber trellis]

last update achivements i miss is irradiant pearl, solus unit log and comando m2

thing is
after update come i had only 2 hours to play

[heavy lintel]

There is only trophies for the original release on console so I don’t have as many

[latent field]

i decided recently that ill probably try and 100%

working on mastery rn and so far i got engi, merc, huntress, loader, mul-t, and bandit i think

currently i am hardstuck on my rex saga

i gotta be honest i underestimated how hard he would be

[high torrent]

what loadout do you use on rex?

[latent field]

you mean abilities?

[high torrent]

uea

[latent field]

i just use the base ones cos i dont have any of the others

[high torrent]

you not gonna go far with sonic boom, you really need bramble valley

another 450% damage in the kit with healing on top is just delicious

[latent field]

ah

[high torrent]

not even talking bout how big the area it hits

[latent field]

ill try and unlock it

[high torrent]

good luck, not many people have it

[latent field]

is that the dunked one

where you have to boop the dunestrider

[high torrent]

don't restart if you won't get dunestrider on the second map, it's highly likely that you'll find one on the 7th stage

yeah, just choose drizzle + command and i wish you good luck

[latent field]

aight ty for your insight rex player

will do that soon

[somber trellis]

i was trying to take it for like 60 hours
and then sudenly had in metamorfosis coop, lol

[high torrent]

i got it legit first try, this made me rex main

[somber trellis]

like

idk, all the time i tried dunestrider didn't spawned

[unique drum]

What are the portals that appear after the mithrix fight?

[high torrent]

the odds of getting a dunestrider on the second stage are so smol

[high torrent]

they teleport you out of the stage

jump into them

[unique drum]

To where?

I’m on console

[somber trellis]

i didn't get it on 2
but when i came on 7 i was just oneshoting everything without doing anything

damn razors and sacdags

[unique drum]

Dunestriders on stage 2 aren’t rare lol

[high torrent]

to the map back

[unique drum]

Ooh

Also how tough are the new unlocks?

[somber trellis]

it just doesn't wanna to spawn there when i playing as rex

[unique drum]

Ok

U tryna unlock the ability?

[somber trellis]

i unlocked it

[unique drum]

Ok

[somber trellis]

in coop

[unique drum]

Then why are u worrying about no dunestriders

[somber trellis]

i spend like 60 hours to do this
pain

[unique drum]

60 hours of gameplay for JUST for that one ability?

[somber trellis]

yep

and then get it in coop metamorfosis

[unique drum]

I doubt it

So you have it?

[somber trellis]

yep

[unique drum]

You have the alt and Rex utility?

Sry on mobile

[somber trellis]

not rex utility
i had only 2 hours to play after update

[unique drum]

Wait

[somber trellis]

wait

[unique drum]

What is the problem

[somber trellis]

utility is shift?

[unique drum]

Yes

[somber trellis]

oh shit

[unique drum]

What is your problem

[somber trellis]

idk, i thought it was r now

[unique drum]

Oh

You want the NEW special ability

[somber trellis]

no

i just don't have it

[unique drum]

So what is the problem

[somber trellis]

i don't know lol

[unique drum]

Ok then lol

Didn’t u say that u didn’t have the ability with knocking a dunestrider into a pit?

[karmic fractal]

challenge time
be heretic, and then survive for long enough to find a cleansing pool, then scrap 3 abilities and try to beat mithrix

[somber trellis]

i have

[tulip nimbus]

Only keep essence 😎

[somber trellis]

if you lucky enough

imagine lunar scrap

[timber pivot]

So my game is frozen on... A lot of blue strings between 2 gilded coast bosses... For like the last 15 minutes... And I think that I made a too powerfull ukulele and meat hook chain? Maybe even an infinite one?... I also have 50k total hp with shaped glass and 200 syranges and focus crystals

Not like this

[somber trellis]

what the heck

how many stages is it?

[timber pivot]

Stage 15 but also void fields

[zinc smelt]

Hook prof ukulele prof hook

[tranquil night]

Gd1 has descended in chaos as aleays

How is bandit going for you PC players?

[severe chasm]

Hes very strong

And hemm is crazy with dot increasing items

[tranquil night]

On a scale of commando to loader how powerful is he?

[severe chasm]

Little bit less than loader I would say. But it depends on your objective

[tranquil night]

Oh wait I forgot you guys also got a commando buff

[tranquil night]

Nice

[severe chasm]

Yep commando now has more itemless DPS than captain

Huntress is still the worst when it comes to that

[tulip nimbus]

Whh

[tranquil night]

Maybe I'll actually play him without glass when console gets the update then.

[severe chasm]

Bandit is wild on stages 1-3 after that you have to actually fight things lol

The game is not designed for the player to deal double damage at the start of the game

[tranquil night]

So crit glasses are useless as bandit?

[timber pivot]

The new herecy r seems broken, is it?

[mellow mango]

yeah bandit is really stupid at the start of the game but then scales quite badly
due to crit having less effect on them, low proc co on default m1, and the special mechanics in general

[high torrent]

im laughing an crying this is so epic

[tranquil night]

I don't play long runs so I probably won't mind that, but it sounds like something they should fix for those who do like long runs.

[high torrent]

commando redemption arc

[severe chasm]

He never had the worst itemless DPS in the game but he is legitimately better than a decent amount of the cast now

Its wild

[timber pivot]

Didn't commando get a buff?

[tranquil night]

Yes

[timber pivot]

Oh I missread that

Sorry

[tranquil night]

No worries

[severe chasm]

He also got a nerf lmao

And one weird change I dont think I like

[timber pivot]

What's the nerf?

[mellow mango]

roll nerf 😏

[severe chasm]

It's way harder to trimp (fly up a ramp) with roll

The weird change is the gravity on nades

[mellow mango]

is it actually?
I didnt notice that personally but idk

[timber pivot]

Let's be honest who uses roll

[severe chasm]

They are now lighter

[high torrent]

omg the roll, it just doesn't exist now

[severe chasm]

It's very noticeable

You might just be a god gamer Groove

[mellow mango]

😎

[tranquil night]

You guys use roll instead of clipping into the floor with slide?

[severe chasm]

Lol

[rocky scroll]

just some bandit's (385k R) stuff

[glass plinth]

Item teirlists are often extremely controversial because items are not strong or weak on their own, but are strong or weak depending on the state of a run.
I made this list as an experiment, ranking red items based on the frequency of their usefulness, as well as their general effects.

[bright palm]

you should mention characters as well

[glass plinth]

yes, but that is also part of the state of a run.

[bright palm]

I got a good vultures build once

[tulip nimbus]

I almost agreed with the entire list except for alien head

[polar anvil]

clover
good in any build

tell this to my purity bandit

[glass plinth]

I can see that.

[rocky scroll]

bro you dont need it

[bright palm]

Vultures is good with deathmark

[mellow mango]

mask is good now

[rocky scroll]

purity isnt harm on bandit even without clover

[glass plinth]

Fair.

[glass plinth]

I heard, I haven't gotten to experiment with it.

Where do you suggest I move it, based on what you have seen?

[mellow mango]

I mean its still like not great but with these rankings maybe orange tier?

or pale orange/yellow

dunno

[glass plinth]

Is it really that strong now? I can see it reviving a vagrant and having a nuke set off, but like.

[mellow mango]

not like as impactful as some other legendaries but still really good

better than alien head and aegis 😎

[glass plinth]

Mask is completly independent of the survivor, which isn't an issue but it makes it weird to play with.

I also do not understand the alien head. Maybe its not an S teir effect in strength, but I don't know any charachter that dislikes lowered cooldowns.

To be fair, Brainstalks literally makes em 0.

[mellow mango]

its consistent but not powerful

[broken ginkgo]

Why the hell dio is not strong?

[glass plinth]

Exactly

[tulip nimbus]

Dio is bad

[glass plinth]

You need to die to use it. I prefer a red that kills what would kill me.

[bright palm]

Dio gives you an extra life which is honestly pretty good but unless you're engineer, you don't get immediate use out of it

[tulip nimbus]

Its a red item but that red item just let's you try again with mediocre items instead of getting a clover or a meat hook

[broken ginkgo]

And dying is literally the worst thing that can happen to you in videogame

[severe chasm]

Dio is good in winstreak runs. One mistake usually ends your run against Mithrix and having that back up 1up is pretty nuce

I don't think its amazing but it is nice to have

[glass plinth]

You die because you do not have a strong build, not because you didn't have a 1up. Red items make builds strong, except for dio.

[broken ginkgo]

Laughs in 18 stacks of scavanger burn

[severe chasm]

Greens and lunars are more important for the most part a lot of win conditions use reds but many are available without

[broken ginkgo]

Laughs in random void reaver explosion

[glass plinth]

there is no such thing as a random void reaver explosion.

[broken ginkgo]

There is when your build wiping all the map and you runned into a corner that already had exploding reaver

[tulip nimbus]

Yea once you hear that menacing jojo sound effect you usually book it

[glass plinth]

Blazing scavs now glow red.

[broken ginkgo]

Not when there’s 20 of them cus it’s stage 25

[bright palm]

they also have elite equipment

[glass plinth]

that too

[tulip nimbus]

Eh

I've died to a reaver once and thats cause I didn't know what it was and it hasn't happened since

[bright palm]

okay, I've gone on long runs and sometimes you explode the map and its hard to tell where a void reaver isn't exploding

[glass plinth]

besides, up until that 18 stacks of burn, Dio did absolutely nothing for you.

[tulip nimbus]

just don't get hit lol

[broken ginkgo]

Yes, dio prevents the biggest punishment that game can offer

Ending your run

[glass plinth]

Maybe a behemoth would have let you clear the previous stages way faster. or a clover would have procced multiple ATGs.

If you get to a point where you can die quickly at any point in time, a dios will not allow you to last that much longer.

[severe chasm]

Dio is good when you get it out of a random chest. It only feels bad when it pops out of a legendary chest, void or AWU

But Dio is not bad

[glass plinth]

Yeah, a free red is a red.

[broken ginkgo]

Clover / Behimoth would done nothing against Cube scavanger that can activate even before his spawn animation is played, he can use it also while being revived with dio and being invincible

[glass plinth]

I haven't called it bad. Just not as strong as half the reds.

[glass plinth]

yeah, they would have gotten you past 15 stages in half the time, stopping it from spawning.

[tulip nimbus]

Would a dio have saved you the second time?

[bright palm]

sometimes you die from random bullshit in this game

[tulip nimbus]

True

[bright palm]

its hard to have a truly invincible run and no one legendary is going to prevent your death from literally everything

like just a behemoth isn't going to instakill that scav that blackholed you into a reaver explosion because you didn't see it spawn and use it

[glass plinth]

Again, I will pick up a dios in a heartbeat. But nobody here is picking it over anything other than a nkhuna, vulture, mask, etc.

[bright palm]

rather specific but hey, it can happen

[severe chasm]

Do you keep your desparado after death?

[bright palm]

I think so, actually

[glass plinth]

Yes, but nobody can tell.

[severe chasm]

Adding it to the list!

[broken ginkgo]

Not to mention you just can play lot less stressed when you know you can fuck up “x” ammont of time

Instead of being paranoid

[tulip nimbus]

Yo striker you should do like a Mythbusters series with like 3 or 4 questions like that per episode

[severe chasm]

That's what my streams are lmao

[tulip nimbus]

Lit 😎

[glass plinth]

Yeah but nobody is gonna watch a streamer who thinks birds are real.

[bright palm]

I watched a streamer who talked about bird watching

[severe chasm]

I have so many videos to make. Meeting up with Charlie thursday night to make a drone comparison video

[bright palm]

and how to start bird watching

[glass plinth]

Sorry bro, I like your content but thats kinda cringe.

[severe chasm]

I changed my status to that because a girl im talking to has the opposite

😎

[tulip nimbus]

Shmoove

[severe chasm]

@broken ginkgo honestly. She's so fucking cool

[glass plinth]

||Shmooving||

[severe chasm]

3 years older than me lol

[tulip nimbus]

Bruhh

[broken ginkgo]

glad to hear

[glass plinth]

Bro you're being groomed.

[severe chasm]

IM TWENTY ONE

[tulip nimbus]

Ddx got no chill

[severe chasm]

lol

[glass plinth]

No chill, all cool.

[severe chasm]

She's a pharmaceutical major in college working on her masters

[tulip nimbus]

Pog

[severe chasm]

We hung out for like 3 hours last night talking about medicine and the history of it. I listen to a medical history podcast because that stuff is so cool

[tulip nimbus]

Yo listening to a podcast about a person's interest sounds big brain

[severe chasm]

The heroic age of medicine is the funniest shit. Basically just doctors guessing their heart out

[severe chasm]

Honestly yeah re-listening to it just so we have more things to talk about it

[tulip nimbus]

Thats sick bro

Sounds like she's pretty smart as well

[soft vessel]

Hey everyone, does anyone have any tips for playing Bandit? I am trying to do a solo skin run with him but keep dying by stage 3/4.

[severe chasm]

Only issue is that she lives about 2 hours away

[severe chasm]

Play safe and backstab as much as you can. keep up your hemm stacks as it does a ton of damage and keep stacking desperado if you have it. If not use lights out to stay invisible 99% of the time

Reminder that lights out refreshes ALL cooldowns including and

But not equipment cooldowns

[bright palm]

lights out is real good for clearing out enemies and anything that lowers enemy health will let you keep firing that pistol like revovler ocelot

[soft vessel]

@severe chasm thanks! I have a played a ton of the game with everyone else but bandit seems to be a mix of range and close attacks.

[severe chasm]

Yep. He's really fun that way

[bright palm]

I recommend the throwing knife

[severe chasm]

Crowbars let you just pop wisps all day

Throwing knife is fun but you do lose out on some AoE

So keep that in mind

[soft vessel]

Gotcha. Yea lights out seems great with all wisp action

[bright palm]

you're right but the smoke bomb does better work than the knife anyways

besides, if I want to hemmhorage a boss like mithrix, I no longer have to try to run up to melee to get his back

or at all if I have crit

[soft vessel]

I have been trying to mainly stack pure damage and speed to get in and out of though situations as much as I can.

[severe chasm]

This is a very good point

[soft vessel]

So hemmhorage stacks>pure damage boosts then for bosses you think?

[severe chasm]

I would recommend desparado with melee (shotgun/melee dagger) and lights out with ranged (rifle+throwing dagger)

[bright palm]

you can have both

[severe chasm]

Reminder that all dots get boosts from , , and

And they are multiplicative with each other

Meaning that they basically double dip

If you have a stack of all 3 you are getting 3x damage from your dots

[soft vessel]

Oh nice. I always forget about

[severe chasm]

That's something I will actually be testing today

Want to make sure the math checks out in practice

[soft vessel]

If you are steaming I can hop in 👍

To see in real time how that all works out

[bright palm]

one thing that's really fun on bandit is frost relic because you can stealth and start critting enemies by moving behind them

the range buff on it was really good

[soft vessel]

I always feel the “best” build is that it’s all luck without command on

@bright palm that sounds really fun. Have you gotten a run with that going?

[bright palm]

last night, yea

it wasn't a great run but it was funny

[soft vessel]

I feel the best ribs are the fun ones instead of the successful ones

Best runs*

Not ribs 😂

[bright palm]

they can be both

I have my skill preferences with bandit but both desperado and lights out are good skills that don't really replace eachother

imo, its not like spiked fist vs grappling hook

you're swapping out utility for damage

rather than getting a better utility

[soft vessel]

@bright palm thanks for all the suggestions! I will take your suggestions into account and see if I can get a run out of it. Running on vanilla so all the items are going to be a bit to get going. Hopefully I’ll get lucky going to meet or acrid to pick up some items early run

Going to newt *

[severe chasm]

I show off the most busted things in the game for each new follower I get if they haven't seen it already. Stuff like Acrid's M2 healing way more than it should or being insane

[bright palm]

honestly, good items on bandit are things like gas and other on kill effects, focus crystals for the smoke bomb, and ukelele as some examples

[severe chasm]

And the hemm stacks

2000% over 15 seconds is crazy

[arctic vine]

i can't get a bandit run to get past stage 4 solo, so i don't think i'll be seeing desperado any time soon

[bright palm]

oh yea, backup mags are great on bandit, real good if you're using lights out to get them all back in one shot

[severe chasm]

That is why I think lights out is better with ranged, the safety of the throwing dagger can really shine

[ebon geyser]

Is that because of his special?

[severe chasm]

Only issue is that you don't get the focus crystal boost that way

[bright palm]

oh yea, lights out resets all charges on all skills

[severe chasm]

Yep. We tested that a while ago

[bright palm]

so it fully reloads your m1, and if you have any backup mags, all of them are refilled

[severe chasm]

All and charges

As well as all if you ever want to do that for some reason

[bright palm]

you could stack eight of them with fewer issues

which is certainly an advantage...

[severe chasm]

OH SHOOT

Lights out visions bandit is something I am definitely trying today

That sounds super busted

[tulip nimbus]

That does sound super busted

[bright palm]

I'd recommend having a couple m2 charges just in case you run out and don't have something easy to reset them on but then again, crowbars

[languid sun]

Hey, uhh... people tell me that Mul-T is broken, how is it broken?

And what are its best weapons?

[severe chasm]

Scrap launcher by far atm

[bright palm]

Power Mode is busted right now

[severe chasm]

200 armor is 66% damage reduction

[languid sun]

I didn't have the luck of finding a preon accelerator, so I couldn't unlock the buzzsaw.

[bright palm]

the only bad primary on power mode right now is double saw

[severe chasm]

And even that can pump out some crazy numbers

[mellow mango]

even double saw is good in multiplayer

[languid sun]

I was killed by one of those annoying flying moon constructs.

[bright palm]

yea, its just hard to get close enough to hit things, and you're going to want more move speed than usual for power mode double saw

[mellow mango]

the actual bad primary is kind of just rebar in general 😎

[severe chasm]

So this is on my list for today
Desparado after death
Lights out Visions bandit
Focus crystal/AP rounds/Death Mark
Less than 1.0 proc co reducing damage
Mithrix Portals (AGAIN)

[languid sun]

I nearly finished the game with the double rebar trick, though my hand hurts like a bitch

[severe chasm]

Any suggestions?

[bright palm]

double nailgun and double scrap launcher is real fun on power mode mult but scrap launcher has the unique benefit of being able to use backup mags

[ebon geyser]

Oh fuck they’re nerfing power mode next patch aren’t they

[languid sun]

Also, I gotta be honest, people told me to not use Loader because she is broken... but by far she is the character I had most fun with.

[severe chasm]

I hope so. 200 armor is nuts

[mellow mango]

I really hope so but I kind of doubt it 😔

[ebon geyser]

Triple minigun is by far the most fun i ever had

[mellow mango]

hopoo doesnt really like
nerf things
very often

[languid sun]

Triple minigun? With whom?

[severe chasm]

That will stay. The armor I don't think will

[bright palm]

she's considered the best character in the game, but that's not actually a problem

[ebon geyser]

Actually though, I noticed i literally became unkillable if i just pressed “R”

[severe chasm]

YUP

[mellow mango]

what if you just did not die

[severe chasm]

People sleep on armor. Including Hopoo

My boi gives you 23% damage reduction with ONE STACK

48% with 3

[bright palm]

I think they know armor is busted because the only items that grant it are jade elephant and buckler

[ebon geyser]

Holy shit it does?

I never knew

[severe chasm]

Made a whole video on how busted it is

[bright palm]

speaking of jade elephant, 10 fuel cells and a gesture is enough to have permanent uptime with the thing

[severe chasm]

Which is actually feasible now with the bazaar reroll

[ebon geyser]

You know what else has permanent uptime?

Triple minigun

So many procs

[severe chasm]

is the best DPS equip in the game

[bright palm]

I mean

you could just have a billion armor as mul-t and be unkillable

[ebon geyser]

Yes and couple it with double nailgun powermode

[bright palm]

the closest I've gotten to death on mithrix with non-saw runs was going to half health

[severe chasm]

Try double scrap launcher. It's bugged atm and starts reloading after shooting one shot

[ebon geyser]

Yeah i tried that

[severe chasm]

Which makes it's DPS absurd especially with purity and some attack speed

[ebon geyser]

But i prefer triple minigun just for the idea of me using three miniguns at once

[languid sun]

I don't know how the triple minigun is good, I mean, it eats money like a bitch

[mellow mango]

[severe chasm]

That's completely fine

[languid sun]

I love the sawmerang

[severe chasm]

actually scales with player level so it doesn't actually consume that much. Especially with a

[ebon geyser]

Also perma tonic is really fun too

[latent field]

question,

[languid sun]

Oohhh...

[severe chasm]

Daily reminder that tonic is busted on melee acrid https://giphy.com/gifs/risk-of-rain-2-G4NSVTCkwEn56owgi9

[latent field]

is it possible to get this dunestrider over the ledge

ignore the fact that i dont have an afterburner i thought of that afterwards

mf just wont budge

[ebon geyser]

You’re supposed to do it on abandoned aqueduct

That’s a different stage

[latent field]

oh shit is it actually exclusive to that stage

fuck me

[severe chasm]

Yep

[latent field]

im illiterate i guess

[severe chasm]

Basically just keep resetting until you get it as a stage 2 boss

[ebon geyser]

And the right stage too

[severe chasm]

This is why I made a tutorial on how to alter your save file to unlock everything. The unlocks in this game are just RNG fests

[latent field]

yeah but im a purist

no cheating

[severe chasm]

The new bandit M2 one is just "hope you find a printer or use command"

[latent field]

https://tenor.com/view/nopers-peepo-gif-20205003

[severe chasm]

I want to test the new skills now hopoo

[bright palm]

cries in slicing winds

[soft vessel]

Heading off for now, back to work for me. Thanks for the tips everyone I look forward to talking to you all in the future!

[severe chasm]

At least that one is hard and fun

[latent field]

rejoices in slicing winds haver

[severe chasm]

See ya gamer!

[mellow mango]

cheating in unlocks is cringe 😔

[severe chasm]

Requiring me to spend time not testing is cringe

[bright palm]

hardest unlock by far since your best bet is joining this discord and checking #prismatic-trials in order to know when a good seed is to get it

I have slicing winds but fuck that unlock

[mellow mango]

you are testing your skill 😏

[severe chasm]

Cabbage moment

[bright palm]

same goes for ballista's unlock

[severe chasm]

Sadly cabbage said no to an interview because he wants to not reveal his voice

[bright palm]

wisps exist!

[latent field]

dont get me wrong i totally understand if you just want to have fun and use the abilities, not everybody has the time for it. i just dont like it cos it doesnt feel rewarding

but hey that's just me

[bright palm]

I 100%'d this game and I have problems with some unlocks

[severe chasm]

They aren't hard for me to do, just time consuming and that's time I could be using finding item interactions

Which is the most fun part of the game for me

[mellow mango]

I feel like the 2 mithrix unlocks from this update are kind of dumb

[severe chasm]

Yup

[latent field]

they definitely are

[bright palm]

the problem is trying not to kill mithrix before you can use your skills to

[mellow mango]

I didnt bother doing those "legit" because uhhhh

[bright palm]

which means no ATGS or bands or other items that can cause a premature death

[mellow mango]

the others are nice though except maybe rex

[severe chasm]

Time to go test things

Y'all have a good one!

[latent field]

you too

[mellow mango]

oh and bandit alt m2

[latent field]

i think they kinda just wanted to add a couple big challenges so people dont get bored

[mellow mango]

yeah a lot of the unlocks in this update are kind of stupid tbh

[ebon geyser]

Oh speaking of bandit

When trying to get a backstab, does the enemy have to be facing away from me or does it just depend on where my shots land

[latent field]

what do you mean?

you only get hemorrhage when attacking from behind

[ebon geyser]

Cause you know how bandit does crits from behind

[latent field]

yeah the m2 works the same way

[ebon geyser]

Does the game check where the bullets land or if the enemy is facing away

[latent field]

im pretty sure it does

[somber trellis]

me that get it on first seed in 15-20 minutes:

[languid sun]

Hemorrage is only on crits, and the bandit always crits when he backstabs

Also I just finished Monsoon with Mul-T

Yeah, the double weapon-tank is quite... tanky. I received a full on hammer swing from Mitrix and didn't die

Now stacking 20 hemorrages will be a bitch.

And pushing 20 launchers from the ledge will be annoying.

[somber trellis]

i know that pain

good luck

[somber trellis]

attack speed: ok

and accuracy

[languid sun]

I think I'm going to suggest again that the commando to receive his invulnerability roll, last time I reached 35 upvotes.

[tired juniper]

i shuold suggest my static driver legendary item thing again, but make a 3d model for it

mmm dunno how to make it look though

[pine forge]

fair enough lol

[quaint rapids]

Did you know that you can skip comencments pillars

[grave pelican]

I been trying to get Loader:Earthshartter for like 30 min now what the easiest way to get it

[quaint rapids]

drizzle

[deep lake]

late game command is fun

i'm literally alttabed

and the game plays itself

turns out that 12 wills, 30 gasolines and 15 crowbars wipes the map everytime something is killed

[quaint rapids]

well yeah

you litteraly have a nuke when you kill

get some glass shards to make it intresting

[deep lake]

found a shrine of order

should i?

[quaint rapids]

well not much would change

actully do it

[deep lake]

well if i get 100 goat hooves im sure the gameplay will change slightly

[quaint rapids]

true

[deep lake]

ok doing it

i didn't even know i had bombs

[patent tulip]

https://youtu.be/Q4oX4EGfjg8

[mellow mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/813185502378590269/image0.gif

[dry dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/707448532243578910/808401345887469659/ahahah_yroue_1.mp4

[mellow mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/564544696995676177/809070344190034001/20210210_000728.gif

[dry dirge]

ight

you got me beat there

[tulip nimbus]

New among us map just dropped

[tardy cobalt]

To the person who decided Scavengers could have Royal Capacitors: why?

[tranquil elbow]

iv'e never fought a scavenger before

[tardy cobalt]

Do you know how they work?

[tranquil elbow]

mostly

[tardy cobalt]

What do you understand about them?

[tranquil elbow]

where they spawn, some items they have and different types of them have different items. and abilities? or is that not right?

[tardy cobalt]

That's kind of right. Basically, they are given items/equipment on spawn, and they will gain more overtime

This makes them dangerous as sh*t because depending on what they have, they could mess you up more than they already can

[floral forge]

it might just be me, but scavs are either a guaranteed death or pitifully easy to kill

with very little inbetween

[tardy cobalt]

Most times, if you can, steer clear of them, and make sure they never see you. If you are sure you stand a chance, it is important you assess what items they have (it's visible on their bodies)

[tardy cobalt]

Yeah, that's pretty much how it is

[tulip nimbus]

But they give some pretty bomb loot 😎

[tardy cobalt]

If you live long enough to get it

This was the first time I died to one, though

[tranquil elbow]

so they are given the items over time?

ok then

[tardy cobalt]

They are given a random set of items when they spawn, and get more as time goes on. So either kill them fast or never go near them

[tranquil elbow]

ok

[tardy cobalt]

Oh, and do take note: the game won't tell you what they have, you need to go up to them and find out yourself

Though the game will tell you what they pick up

[tranquil elbow]

ok

and is it better to search for all the items in the stage or pick them up as u go?

[floral forge]

that's a thing you'll figure out as you go on

when to gtfo and when to stick around for a bit

[tardy cobalt]

Here's what I do. In the first 5 stages, it's all about getting through them quickly, as they will determine your run. Don't spend more than five minutes on a stage, pick up what you find, and keep backtracking to a minimum.

[floral forge]

but yeah, my general policy is 3-5 minutes per stage

[tranquil elbow]

ok

what about the late game stages

[floral forge]

take as long or as little as you want

by the time you get to HAHAHA it doesn't super matter

[torpid breach]

I've honestly recommended this got nerfed but everyone disliked my suggestion

[zealous grove]

3-5 minutes per stage and exit stage 5 by 30 is a good rule of thumb

[tranquil elbow]

i usually do around 6 or 7 mins

on each stage

[floral forge]

I like playing with sacrifice since it lets me keep an extremely hasty pace but 🤷‍♂️

[torpid breach]

Dunno how an ai having the ability to nuke you without any sort of telegraph fun

[tulip nimbus]

What difficulty do you play on

[tranquil elbow]

monsoon

[floral forge]

thats a thing?

[tranquil elbow]

always

and

[tulip nimbus]

Oh 6-7 is dangerous for early rounds

[torpid breach]

If you don't have enough movement speed rest in piece

[tardy cobalt]

Yep, and I hate it

[tranquil elbow]

ok

[tulip nimbus]

Best do beat first stage by three minutes and second by 7

[torpid breach]

It's an instant and unfair game over but I dunno, people like it apparently

[zealous grove]

isn't that the reason capacitor has a delay now

[torpid breach]

It is, used to be far worse before

Still, issue for me is telegraph

Or lack thereof

[tardy cobalt]

@tranquil elbow try this: if you can get to stage 3 in less than 10 minutes you are doing well, especially if you find the preon accumulator on rally point delta

[tranquil elbow]

i most of the time get there at around 13 mins

[tardy cobalt]

Not bad, just got to shave off some time

[tranquil elbow]

ok

what is ur mai?

main

[floral forge]

ive killed 1300 scavengers and I dont think I've gotten one with a capacitor haha

must be some shitty luck

oh shit when did I get my overloading worm log

[torpid breach]

You're lucky, I've had genuinely fun runs with artificer ruined because I didn't have enough movement items

[tardy cobalt]

I play the Engineer and Loader, and a bit of Mul-T

[floral forge]

all I need is aurelionite and my monster logbook is complete

[tranquil elbow]

and do u get their items when the scavengers die ?also i play loader and bandit

[torpid breach]

No, you get some items only

[zealous grove]

you get a bag of random items

[torpid breach]

Still really good but not all of them

[tranquil elbow]

ok

[quiet cobalt]

have any of you ever found an elite aspect?

[zealous grove]

big bag

[tardy cobalt]

The first scavenger you kill on a stage drops a bag of ten random items

[torpid breach]

You can get legendaries also

[quiet cobalt]

I got lucky enough to find the fire one

[tardy cobalt]

I found my first one yesterday, it was the fire one

[zealous grove]

i found one and an irradiant pearl in the same run

[torpid breach]

I have found all of them except either malachite or the other one

I forget the name, malachite and what's the other one?

[zealous grove]

celestine

[tranquil elbow]

ok thx for the help

[torpid breach]

Thank you

[tardy cobalt]

No problem

[torpid breach]

That reminds me, have the elite aspects been buffed at all?

[quiet cobalt]

no

[torpid breach]

Odd, it's so rare, figured they'd gotten some buff

[quiet cobalt]

yeah, it'd definitly be nice

[torpid breach]

Especially when there's a much more common legendary item that has basically a better effect

Or at least make it a passive item

No point in having an active item that doesn't have an active effect

[fluid notch]

easter egg

they aren't for players

[severe chasm]

Yo why is strides loader so fun

[severe chasm]

Engi's turrets now get them

[summer terrace]

if they get buffed elites also get harder

[wise bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJs7r0TLfx0&ab_channel=Avermitus

the ror2 wiki explaining difficulty scaling ^

[mellow mango]

accurate

[deft eagle]

It's over. It rained.

[empty plume]

y'all couldn't behave unrisks your rain

[rare heart]

Hey everyone I came to inform you that the planula jiggles when you move. That is all.

And the parent inside it. Lil dude must be having quite the ride.

[dull kindle]

Planula is the one thing that can make the engineer reach perfection

[rare heart]

Three jiggling parents?

[dull kindle]

3 planula turns mini mush into bungus

[final jay]

Multiplayer: where you either die because some fuck keeps hoarding the items and you're on stage 4 with three things or you live long enough to see yourself-- oh, no, wait, the host closed the game.

[glass plinth]

Double scrap launcher MulT, full uptime tonic.

Capped crit+scythe, ageis+IDP, begining to stack teddies, Power mode armor = MulT cannot die

Also does lots of damage with the crowbars, crit, and glass

I did not think a scrap launch MulT would do well, but hey.

full uptime tonic, capped crit, and glass will make anything viable.

I have a question though, since I have capped crit, is purity worth it on double scrap launcher?

My only downside is that the launcher needs to reload now and then so speeding it up would do good.

[late vault]

Suppresive fire or frag grenades?

[tulip nimbus]

I would yea

[vapid matrix]

Hey, my friend keeps disconnecting every time we play. Do you guys know any fixes?

[earnest patrol]

an ethernet cable?

[glass plinth]

I keep suppressive cause I like the stun.

also because I can't use grenades that well, either because they suck or because I suck at using them. Or both.

[plain plinth]

Don't worry, they're just awkward to use.

It's not just you

[unreal sundial]

Does scrap combo with purity?

[empty plume]

what

[unreal sundial]

Scrap launcher on MulT

Does the cooldown get reduced by purity?

Screw it I'll just test it

[empty plume]

I thought you meant actual scrap. Cool downs like that one are not affected by purity

[unreal sundial]

Lol

[mellow mango]

scrap launcher cooldown is affected by purity yes

all cooldowns are

[empty plume]

No not all cool downs

[mellow mango]

what cooldowns are you thinking of that arent affected by cdr?

[plain plinth]

He might be thinking of equipment.

[mellow mango]

ah yeah perhaps

[unreal sundial]

Nah it appears it actually does affect launcher

[mellow mango]

ya

[unreal sundial]

Ya

[empty plume]

I looked it up and yes I got confused, purity in general is just not good for MulT bc of how scrap launcher works

Just MulT in general doesn’t need purity ever really

[mellow mango]

purity can be somewhat useful for single scrap launcher as it allows it to meaningfully scale with attack speed but even then the usefulness is limited

and if you dont have scrap you really never want to take purity on MUL-T yeah

[empty plume]

What I’m saying for scrap launcher is that you can’t reload until you’ve used all scrap or wait a short amount of time. Just seems kinda not worth

[mellow mango]

after the update you begin reloading scrap as soon as you fire the first shot

which makes purity a lot more appealing

[placid osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/247302076089106432/826064090845413396/unknown.png

[tawny plaza]

Commando is higher than I expected

[heavy lintel]

Imagine having the new update

Couldn’t be me

[tawny plaza]

same.

[heavy lintel]

I technically have it but not on main platform

[tawny plaza]

what's your main platform

[heavy lintel]

Ps

[tepid wolf]

All those merc picks

Although ethereal can mess with that stat

[tawny plaza]

huntress though

[heavy lintel]

Why is bandit so low

[tepid wolf]

Because he is new

[heavy lintel]

But the stats are also new

[tepid wolf]

How the hell would you get such a high pick rate on a new character?

[tepid wolf]

Also no

[heavy lintel]

Only play that character

[tawny plaza]

I think bandit is quite high for being absolutely new

[tepid wolf]

It counts everything before the update too

[tawny plaza]

like... Absurdly high

[heavy lintel]

Yer true but I have a total of about 50 games on pc so bandit most

[frozen stratus]

Am I the only person who still wants Enforcer added to the game?

[tepid wolf]

I mean the enforcer mod is great from what I heard

Also really fun apparently

[heavy lintel]

I want mythrix as a character

[tepid wolf]

You can play with him via debug toolkit

As any enemy actually

[frozen stratus]

But I want enforcer in game not as a mod

[tepid wolf]

Including pots, drones and beetles

[tawny plaza]

how does one play as a pot

[heavy lintel]

Yer but in the law mythrix has a brother so what if his brother is a character

[frozen stratus]

You mean Providence?

[heavy lintel]

What about nests

[tepid wolf]

Providence is dead

[frozen stratus]

^

[heavy lintel]

Ohh

[tepid wolf]

Has been for a long time

[tawny plaza]

🦀 🦀

[tepid wolf]

Read up on them a bit more it's really interesting

[frozen stratus]

If enforcer gets added I will cry

[heavy lintel]

They would need permission off mod dev

[tepid wolf]

Not really

[languid sun]

Hey, out of curiosity, what's the caveat between the Engineer's towers?

[tepid wolf]

They made the enforcer in the first game

Only if they wanted the mod officially they would need the permission

[heavy lintel]

Ohh ok so they could just add him

[languid sun]

I mean, it looks like the secondary mobile towers are much better than the stationary ones, so there must be a caveat, right?

[tepid wolf]

Hopoo prefers making their own kdeas

[heavy lintel]

I never played ror1

[tepid wolf]

@languid sun no bungus, less range, movement is a blessing and a curse

[languid sun]

It says that the mobile towers also get the bonuses from the same items as the engineer

[tepid wolf]

Normal turrets too

[heavy lintel]

I use default as it adds healing circles with fungus

[tepid wolf]

They have the same DPS

But mobole has really short range

And run at enemies which can also lead to their destruction

Amd cannot easily heal/tank

[heavy lintel]

The mines is a massive upgrade tho

[tepid wolf]

I would say mobile turrets are a slight downgrade

[heavy lintel]

I agree with that

[tepid wolf]

Making them count as always sprinting eould be so nice

[worthy copper]

Holy.

[languid sun]

I'm still trying to unlock the alternative to the mines.

[tepid wolf]

Would allow for syenrgies with a bunch lf items

[frozen stratus]

@tepid wolf Bandit was a modded character

[heavy lintel]

What was the challenge again

[languid sun]

But my runs so far were awful, I'm thinking in just going with the command

[tepid wolf]

@frozen stratus he was heavily changed up though

[heavy lintel]

He was in ror1

[languid sun]

Bandit was from Ror1

[frozen stratus]

I know

So was enforcer

[tepid wolf]

Hopoo stayed away from modded bandit and ROR1 bandit

They wanted something more unique

[heavy lintel]

Well if you only made ror1 3D I think ror2 wouldn’t be that good

[languid sun]

Is the alternative to the shield good?

[heavy lintel]

Yes

[languid sun]

I barely used the shield, it was situational at best.

[heavy lintel]

Shield kinda bad

[frozen stratus]

In ror1?

[tepid wolf]

With stationaries shield is great

Just throw it on them and you can fight yourself

[languid sun]

Hella bad, all foes can just waltz into the shield and gank my towers.

[frozen stratus]

What are we talking about?

[tepid wolf]

Also mushrums melt turretse

[heavy lintel]

Engi

[tepid wolf]

If the enemies can even get that cllse

[frozen stratus]

Shield sucks missles ftw

[tepid wolf]

Also you can out turrets on an elevated positions

Where melees cannot get hits in

[frozen stratus]

I like the moving turrets personally

[heavy lintel]

On rainstorm you can afk with turrets

[tepid wolf]

On monsoon that shield is so useful

[languid sun]

The blossoming heal trick, I know.

[tepid wolf]

Since even with fungus they can easily get melted

[frozen stratus]

I've never saw the point of the shield. Enemies can just walk into it and kill your turrets

[heavy lintel]

Yep

[frozen stratus]

Also that's why I get the moving turrets

They know to walk away from targets and shoot at them

[heavy lintel]

I use stationary and stack fungus

[tepid wolf]

You can out turrets on elevated spots once again

Also on monsoon projectiles melt turrets

[heavy lintel]

Yer but there still useful

[tepid wolf]

On rainstorm there turrets are super tanky

[languid sun]

Yeah I'm tired of awful rgn runs, I will get the command artifact

[frozen stratus]

I play on Monsoon tho

I feel that Skull

[languid sun]

I finished on Monsoon for the first time today... with Mul-T

[heavy lintel]

^i do that with sacrifice and get infinite items

It’s fun to one shot bosses

[tepid wolf]

Command kinda breaks the game

[heavy lintel]

Yer same with sacrifice if you can dodge good

[tepid wolf]

Also the game can easily be beaten by knowing how to deal with RNG

Sacrifice is also kinda broken

[languid sun]

I played three times with the engineer, not once I got a good heal item

[tepid wolf]

Removes any and all sense of time urhency

Medkits or slugs are enough

[languid sun]

And for a guy that is all about being stationary in the middle of a firefight, that is awful. I was surprised I got to the last stage before my own drones killed me by a bug

[heavy lintel]

Sacrifice I would say less than command as you still need to survive a long time to make it work

[tepid wolf]

Also a monster tooth js good too

Like you can win with crappy RNG by playing well

[languid sun]

(My flamethrower drone ended pushing me into a pool of flames made by those annoying balls in the last stage)

[tepid wolf]

The game won't hand you a god run on a silver platter

[heavy lintel]

No character should stand still

[tepid wolf]

The no. 1 rule of the game is not to stand still

[heavy lintel]

Unless on drizzle

[tepid wolf]

Even with engineer you want to throw the shield on the sentries and then run around supporting them

[languid sun]

Yeah, that was what I was doing, but folks told me to 'get three mushrooms, stay between your turrets and support them'

[heavy lintel]

No get some mushrooms maybe but no

[tepid wolf]

That's bad advice

Even as engineer don't stand still

[heavy lintel]

That only works on rainstorm

[tepid wolf]

Well except power mode mul-t sometimes

That ability makes you so tanky it's dumb

[heavy lintel]

I haven’t used it yet but my plan is to do double saw monsoon

[languid sun]

I finished the game on monsoon for the first time with Mul-T and two rocket launchers.

[heavy lintel]

Rebar

[languid sun]

I took the full swing of Mithrix, the one where he goes from overhead and blows a hole in the floor, head on, was launched like a beachball, and I survived.

[heavy lintel]

Spam switch hold atack

[tepid wolf]

Double saw is super viable now

Just thanks to how broken power mode is

[languid sun]

My first reaction was 'I should be dead'

[heavy lintel]

I always tank mythrix my 20 loop run I was immortal basically

[tepid wolf]

Power saw is just nuts in general

[heavy lintel]

I don’t see it viable unless you only have one

[tepid wolf]

Power mode is just that busted

It is a 67% damage resist

[heavy lintel]

Mainly play ps so power mode doesn’t exist

[tepid wolf]

Also 2000% DPS and 20 procs per second

[heavy lintel]

Also just sprint in power mode and don’t let do of left click

[tepid wolf]

It's sometimes better to stay in it

As said 67% damage reduction, also the saws are better positioned in it

[heavy lintel]

Yer for bosses but otherwise

[tepid wolf]

Not always either

Only really malachites require that

Like a few repulsions and nothing damages you

[heavy lintel]

I haven’t experimented that much but that’s what I see it as

[tepid wolf]

Like stage 7 enemies did almost nothing

Also facetanked 2 glacial titans

[languid sun]

I still didn't get the hang of playing the Mercenary

[tepid wolf]

Merc is about combos lot

[heavy lintel]

I need to practice him

[tepid wolf]

And reliance on i-frames

Also he has a lot of advanced tech

Like trimping, dash cancelling and slamming enemies

[languid sun]

Poor Commando lost his I-frames, I placed a suggestion/feedback to give it back to him, but I don't know if it will be heard.

Trimping?

[glass plinth]

I frame use, comboing into cooldown reduction, melee in general, etc.

[plain plinth]

I will NEVER acknowledge "trimping" as a word. it sounds so dumb.