100 enough
#gd2-nullified
somber trellis
polar anvil
Idiotic logic
somber trellis
:)
polar anvil
Nerf syringe because i can stack 500 of it and vaporize everything
lime flower
mithrix isnt loading for me
polar anvil
Nerf clover because i can stack 10 and proc atg every shot
polar anvil
Report it
lime flower
aw man
south forge
Why are all the online games private 💔💔
thorn oak
idk but make ur own and it fills up fast enough
shrewd jacinth
Why are all the online games private 💔💔
I noticed that as well, lots of games that're Rainstorm difficulty lobbies with 0 people in them, confuses me
peak ember
i can not cre and join Y.Y if i cre and join my internet is cut i dont know why?
pallid minnow
this is the earliest celestine greater wisp i found (4 player)
keen quiver
Gonna try beating Monsoon with Bandit, what are the best items for himÉ
tepid wolf
Back up mags are pretty nice for stacking the M2 bleed, scythes are great for the healing from backstabs and predatories give you a lot of attack speed (which makes reloads for the M1 faster), tri tips are nice as always, same with crit glasses , focus crystals are also really nice thanks to the close range playstyle
keen quiver
Okie thanks!
dull ingot
Me want update
arctic vine
well the game is still 25% off on steam, so you could have the update any time
and it runs well on potatoes, so that's an added bonus
arctic vine
well good luck with that, scalpers have screwed everyone when it comes to pcs 
somber trellis
me: don't have console, too poor
arctic vine
me: don't have console, they're never in stock
somber trellis
i have no money to anything, one guy just gifted ror to me
arctic vine
tbh i technically can't afford a new console either
part time 20 hrs a week doesn't do much more than pay bills
and barely at that
dull ingot
how dare youn bring up the real world in my videogame safe space
opal zenith
anyone else having a hard time with the beatles during the beetle queen boss fight?
opal zenith
Survivors with no early game aoe
dull ingot
opal zenith
guess i just have to focus fire the queen and get out fast
kind edge
it should not have taken me 7 runs to get that bandit mastery, but it did
modern ether
new commencement is tough tbf
arctic compass
I can't wait until the update comes to ps4
dull ingot
well you gotta 😎
leaden hound
so do yall think acrid might get new skills in the dlc, cause i kinda hope so. i wanna see the ball and chain from the old design again
or the short range like acid lazer. i dont know kinda just want stuff to branch the melee and range parts of the kit.
lost forge
so apparently if you have perma uptime on blast shower with kjaro’s band, every single hit of artificer flamethrower procs the band
leaden hound
oh god
edgy siren
So bandit is cool, but he has like, no aoe to deal with multiple enemies
That’s his only real downside
real token
Does anyone know what the Bandit: B&E achievement is called in the games code? I'm trying to add it to the xml file on my user profile cos I can't be bothered to fight mithrix again
edgy siren
Other than that, he can crit often, his damage can be stupidly high (in a good way) and he’s very speedy
junior falcon
New captain ability: good or bad?
clever imp
New captain ability: good or bad?
Bad imo
junior falcon
Ye that's what I thought
The windup is way too long to be practical
Itd make more sense as a supply beacon option that recharges instead of being once per stage
latent field
So bandit is cool, but he has like, no aoe to deal with multiple enemies
shift+m2
edgy siren
What does that do?
dull ingot
shift itself is an aoe + two guaranteed stuns + 1.0 proc coefficient
m2 is kinda a small aoe I guess
also has 1 proc coeff
glass plinth
The new ability forces you to really play around it
But if running around in a circle for 20 seconds instagibs every enemy in sight, maybe thats not so bad.
polar anvil
double shock
somber trellis
shift have 200% damage x2
polar anvil
primord cube
glass plinth
I would honestly just replace captains m2 with slicing winds every time
glass plinth
Not only does the m2 also stun enemies, it can proc bands
The heresy m2 is good, wdym
Definitely better than the 100% damage 1 meter radius taser
polar anvil
hooks of heresy or whatever its fucking named as ability is what youre lookin for
glass plinth
Correct
somber trellis
I would honestly just replace captains m2 with slicing winds every time
didn't he lose one of the beacons?
dull ingot
with backup mages the damage those things put out hooooooooooooboy
tulip nimbus
Guess what I just found in the game files
polar anvil
hell
tulip nimbus
||ancestral pod||
somber trellis
what?
tulip nimbus
Yea from ror1
polar anvil
its not from ror1?
polar anvil
what the hell u talkin about
pod spawns parents
glass plinth
Army of parents sounds cool, but that’s just stacking queens glands with larger and more annoying beetles
tulip nimbus
Yea it sounds fairly balanced tho its 7% on kill and I'm guessing when they die they die
dull ingot
larger and more annoying beetles
lol ye alright I see that
glass plinth
At least beetles can hit from range.
tulip nimbus
But can beetles teleport
glass plinth
Can you imagine trying to finish off an elite, and 11 parents just teleport into one big mosh pit?
tulip nimbus
Bro acrid is Croco in the game files lmao
glass plinth
Fuck that, at that point they’re blocking more damage than they’re doing.
final jay
In a run right now where I got 2 reds on stage one, and one of them was from a SMALL CHEST.
RNGesus GUIDES MY HAND
teal trout
I don't know where to put this but I love this entry so much
somber trellis
@tulip nimbus vegetable
somber trellis
why tree
tulip nimbus
Cause plant robot hybrid
somber trellis
what's mitrix name?
tulip nimbus
Hmm lemme see
high torrent
mitchell
teal trout
dave
final jay
I don't know where to put this but I love this entry so much
I love that it's literally a find-and-replace of the molten fang with just "hot things" for "energetic things"
high torrent
technically brother i think
final jay
I think he's just "Brother" in the files
teal trout
I love that it's literally a find-and-replace of the molten fang with just "hot ...
yes yes! that is why I love it so much!
high torrent
it was in my latest log, BROKEN BY FUCKING BISON MEAT MOD
tulip nimbus
Yea its brother
high torrent
i had such a good sniper run
final jay
I played around with a character switcher mod and his stage 4 is "brother hurt" or something
high torrent
be nice, don't hurt the brother
somber trellis
make mod that makes stake back pls
tulip nimbus
Oh no
high torrent
make mod that makes stake back pls<:DrizzleCry:587304222253645845>
it currently breaks the mithrix fight
high torrent
i don't know how but it just fucking does
somber trellis
bruh, steak, my english is so bad
somber trellis
i don't know how but it just fucking does
how.......
somber trellis
you a mitrix in 40 stages run?
me a comando without item
let me show you.....
THE ULTIMATE POWER OF STEAK
high torrent
he just cannot spawn
tulip nimbus
He can't spawn? Does it softlock?
somber trellis
mitrix just too noob for STEAK
high torrent
for some reason it doesn't see you as something that can trigger the encounter sequence with steak or something
tulip nimbus
||Do u guys wanna know the unused elite type||
high torrent
i just fuckin
somber trellis
yep
high torrent
pinged moffein
somber trellis
for some reason it doesn't see you as something that can trigger the encounter s...
he just vegan?
somber trellis
the meme speedrun idea
mitrix vegan%
softlock mitrix with steak only
tulip nimbus
||"Annihilator"||
somber trellis
or kill
somber trellis
||"Annihilator"||
"make the meat folower that can oneshot mitrix"
tulip nimbus
||The modifier names for Perfected and Celestine are "Lunar" and "Haunted" respectively. The modifier for Annihilator is "echo"||
somber trellis
what it does?
somber trellis
invisible elite type that can teleport?
tulip nimbus
||Is that it is similar to the Umbra that spawns from artifact of vengeance ||
It would be difficult to explain why they're related but they have similar characteristics
somber trellis
hmm, maybe it is umbra's possible elite type with honour artifact?
tulip nimbus
Oh unique to certain artifacts? That would be interestint
somber trellis
too hard to do on practice tho
tulip nimbus
Yea I don't even think its actually in the game either just the files
||So is the "Potmobile"||
tulip nimbus
Like I don't even know what its trying to imply
Like the batmobile but with weed?
Or a rideable clay templar?
somber trellis
Or a rideable clay templar?
my frend that always dies because of templars:
:)
tulip nimbus
Something cool; mithrix has unique voice lines if aurelionite spawns, and if player is heretic, but he has a unique voiceline if its both of them at the same time
tulip nimbus
Yee i won't spoil it
dull ingot
i know that there are separate voicelines for each
tulip nimbus
Yup and there's a single unique one of its both
somber trellis
Something cool; mithrix has unique voice lines if aurelionite spawns, and if pla...
YES??????
so many lore, oh god
tulip nimbus
Yea seeing all the different lines he has for different things is cool
blazing lagoon
static imp
bruh why aint the boss spawning
teal trout
he's scared haha
signal pecan
the boss battle is so broken
half the time it doesnt spawn and the other half just crash of phase 4 if you have too many items
tulip nimbus
so many lore, oh god
Yo guess what
arctic vine
got it, don't try to fight mithrix until he is patched 
floral forge
got it, don't try to fight mithrix until he is patched <:eogNote:813105724066234...
don't fight mithrix*
tulip nimbus
3 runalds tho
brave relic
Ruin gaming
vestal spruce
am
arctic vine
don't fight mithrix*
unfortunately there are a couple unlocks behind fighting him, i'd at least like to attempt getting them the right way
brave relic
Mithrix cleans up the ruin stacks when he dashes 
tulip nimbus
Yup its kinda cringe
arctic vine
so is the actual fight easier or harder now that it's health based instead of proc chance based? or was i reading the patch notes wrong?
brave relic
if you're talking about phase 4
yes it was proc chance based but it had a bit of health based
and yeah the fight is really easy now with the health based thing
mellow mango
Phase 4 is far easier now yeah
brave relic
I once backstabbed Mithrix as Bandit with a royal capacitor and nearly got all my items back
mellow mango
More of a formality
arctic vine
honestly, probably a good change then
old phase 4 wasn't terribly difficult, but it was limiting for me
it was entirely dependent on getting The Backup, or i'd lose 100% of the time
not to mention basically having to build myself in reverse
dark mauve
I love the new phase 4 compared to the old one
dull ingot
man allies are really strong now, reminds me on how useful they were in ror1
even in the 1st and 2nd loop, they were able to kill things (provided that you got plenty of them)
dark mauve
yeah the buff to allies really helped squid polyps I feel
dull ingot
im in a god run right now (stage 20) and my luck bottomed out at around stage 4, i wouldnt have been able to survive if it wasnt for the extra DPS that they provided
brave relic
also, did any patch come today or some time in between
I played on monsoon and went for Mithrix, but I only saw Perfected Exploder Chimeras
dull ingot
and i would have never said such a statement pre-anniversary update
brave relic
no Perfected Golem Chimeras, nor Perfected Wisp Chimeras
grizzled rampart
frog
brave relic
dark mauve
frogge
grizzled rampart
yes
dull ingot
are there any items what shorten the reload time for equipment? im trying to create the ultimate drone army
dull ingot
ok but what else
brave relic
dull ingot
<:GestureOfTheDrowned:583874093804159016> <:Fuel_Cell:617741539124314112> <:Soul...
thx
spark falcon
do drones proc soulbound?
brave relic
idk
but he prob doesn't want to do a drone only playthrough, just have a army drone
so yeah, he can just shoot things
mellow mango
spark falcon
i mean he'll probably have so many drones that he won't be able to shoot anything anyway
modest trout
So a while back I heard a tip about the artifact of sacrafice. Basically if you left items on the ground, the game thinks you haven't seen the previous items, and increases the spawn rate of said items. Is this true?
modest trout
Weird, alright then lol. Thank you!
final jay
In a run right now where I got ***2*** reds ***on stage one***, and one of them ...
Welp, that run ended poorly at the boss fight. I'm finding that Artifact of Swarms makes several of Bandit's challenges uniquely difficult. Bosses die too quick to get the Hemmorage one, and between the two bosses making double the groundblast webs and two bosses making double the health bars to keep track of it's much harder to get the Lights Out one too.
Scythe + Aegis is amazing though.
dull ingot
honor gives bosses more health n stuff, i just used that to unlock sadist
brave relic
I just used Command artifact and eventually got Sadist by killing the AWU
dull ingot
speaking of sadist, shiv feels really weak to me
i like the hitting multiple things with dagger thing
brave relic
Shiv is the safer alternative, but it's not great
tepid wolf
Shiv is nice
brave relic
using the Serrated Dagger is better, especially if you go with shotgun
final jay
Also, petition for the devs to shift the item equip position for 
Bandit for 
Crowbars to be in line with the gun so the head is in line with the buttstock and for 
Hardlight Afterburners so that they line up with the lower ports on the back of the jacket the way that Cautious Slug does on the upper right port? I think it would be cooler that way, I love how he already has so many items that position on his weapon like Aegis and 
Tri-Tips and 
Infusion, it makes him feel unique to me, same as how Commando having 
Backup Mags stick out of his actual guns instead of on the arm or hip or something like a lot of others have.
tepid wolf
The default M2 is not that great anyway
brave relic
since you can go invis > go behind a enemy > dagger > shotgun
static imp
is this bogged? i beat the game and i still dont have it
brave relic
The default M2 is not that great anyway
Wrong
dull ingot
okay but is the shiv seriously a fuggin kitchen knife
tepid wolf
I mean sure it's solid AOE
final jay
is this bogged? i beat the game and i still dont have it
Weird, it worked on mine?
tepid wolf
But I mostly use it for large enemies anyway
unique drum
dont go to game discussion 1
dull ingot
did ya kill mothrix as the funny character or
tepid wolf
And there the range of dagger is usually better
brave relic
it's 360% damage that you will most likely apply it everytime with a critical strike, and applies the special bleed that does a heckin g lot of damage
and again, shotgun
tepid wolf
Well for that you can use the dagger
dull ingot
why is GD1 pain btw
brave relic
500% damage, 4 shells, critical strikes
tepid wolf
Also shotgun is not melee
unique drum
guys does FMP proc brainstalks with artifact of honor?
brave relic
Well for that you can use the dagger
for less damage
tepid wolf
But for range
brave relic
who cares about range
tepid wolf
Bandit is near melee range not in it though
dull ingot
theres this one guy whos making "your mom" jokes all the time for no reason too
unique drum
yeah
unique drum
true
tulip nimbus
Although I haven't seen fade in a few days
brave relic
Bandit doesn't have the best ranged damage
it's better to always stay near enemies and backstabbing them
tepid wolf
Past a certain point I stop using the default since it's not worth to melee someone
brave relic
that is his strat
dull ingot
isnt he on the on the modding discord now
tepid wolf
Not in melee range though
brave relic
Past a certain point I stop using the default since it's not worth to melee some...
that only really applies to like, Mithrix
tepid wolf
The shotgun actually has a pretty tight spread
dull ingot
oh wow spam in gd1 now
tepid wolf
No it applies most enemies later on in a run
unique drum
I gotta be honest mithrix armor is fucking annoying
brave relic
No it applies most enemies later on in a run
No?
tepid wolf
Without it Mithrix would melt
brave relic
you can easily backstab Malachites by example
tepid wolf
Well decloaking near a group of enemies to shiv them is not that great
unique drum
Without it Mithrix would melt
it just makes instakill long runs annoying
brave relic
Well decloaking near a group of enemies to shiv them is not that great
You can easily escape them with regular mobility
tepid wolf
This is not binding of isaac
brave relic
just backstab them and run away
tepid wolf
Or just use your shotgun to shoot them from a bigger distance
unique drum
This is not binding of isaac
do you play ror2 and NOT expect a broken run? ror2 is 3d isaac in terms of how op u can get
brave relic
Why would you do that normally without 100% crit
literally no reason
it's damage, and it's good damage
tepid wolf
It's probably just personal playstyle though. I prefer being close, but not too close
brave relic
and you can definitaly safely exit the place
tepid wolf
And use the dagger for large enemies
calm solstice
I mean in Isaac only way to broke game is random
dull ingot
also quick question, where the actual fuck is the "backs" of vagrants so i can backstab them as bamdit
calm solstice
in ror2 you just stack items till game break
unique drum
also quick question, where the actual *fuck* is the "backs" of vagrants so i ca...
true
brave relic
also quick question, where the actual *fuck* is the "backs" of vagrants so i ca...
Vagrants when they spawn in the teleporter event look in the teleporter direction
so yeah, just go behind them and you can backstab
dull ingot
also brass bois
calm solstice
I think they have 2 tentacles as a front and 1 as a back
and they always turn front to you
dull ingot
thanks
calm solstice
I think
tepid wolf
This argument about dagger and shiv though are probably telling how those abilities are sidegrades
unique drum
also what items have guaranteed backstabs? do atgs alwasy hit from the front?
brave relic
it is affected by gravity too
calm solstice
I like dagger cause it's an early AOE
dull ingot
but still is it a kitchen knife or somthing, since it really looks like one
brave relic
also what items have guaranteed backstabs? do atgs alwasy hit from the front?
if you are on their back your equipments and items will crit
tepid wolf
Yeah default is good early AOE
unique drum
ooh
brave relic
I recommend getting a royal capacitor, getting to phase 4 mithrix, and backstabbing him with the royal capacitor
you will not regret it
unique drum
**I recommend getting a royal capacitor, getting to phase 4 mithrix, and backsta...
i recommend getting royal capacitor
thats all you need to say
brave relic
true
unique drum
im addicted to mul-t help me
calm solstice
Capacitor is OP on new phase 4
unique drum
Capacitor is OP on new phase 4
whats the new phase 4? im on console
brave relic
im addicted to mul-t help me
Power Mode moment
dull ingot
new phase 4 feels good, you actually get your items back
brave relic
Power Mode just makes MUL-T extremely op
unique drum
Power Mode moment
nah without gamer stance
dull ingot
im never using retool again powermode 2 good
calm solstice
you get items back accordingly to Mithrix's HP
tepid wolf
The phase 4 is still just easy as it used to be
unique drum
you get items back accordingly to Mithrix's HP
oh
tepid wolf
Well even easier
calm solstice
like if you damage 50% of his HP you get 50% of items back
unique drum
but isnt commencement actually difficult now?
dull ingot
yes
tepid wolf
Power mode is overall worse than retool, but way more fun
calm solstice
before it depended on proc chances
brave relic
im never using retool again powermode 2 good
Double Scrap Launcher/Visions as Power Mode MUL-T gives you around 2880% dps
calm solstice
so I used rocket launcher
dull ingot
ive tried purity + powermode scrap launchers on monsoon and it was the easiest monsoon win ive ever done lul
tepid wolf
Mainly retool is just more versatile. Way less fun though
unique drum
Double Scrap Launcher/Visions as Power Mode MUL-T gives you around 2880% dps
is scrap launcher actually viable now?
brave relic
Scrap Launcher is viable
dull ingot
also you can visions on powermode?, huh.
brave relic
it does 1440% dps if you hit all the missiles + AoE
tepid wolf
Also double power saw is insane if you can get there
calm solstice
powermode + sawblades = some anime cosplay
brave relic
it's sad that saw is a bit funky with powermode
dull ingot
also i unlocked the bamdit skin because uhh
unique drum
remember when everybody thought double rebar was op for a little while?
dull ingot
i kinda got carried lmao
calm solstice
imagine get huge amount of speed items
tepid wolf
Double rebar was indeed OP
unique drum
Double rebar was indeed OP
but i then decided to to long runs
brave relic
yeah it was pretty strong, but had a big fall off
dull ingot
you can still double rebar with power mode roight?
tepid wolf
But yeah it broke eclipse and Mithrix runs
unique drum
i gotta get back into mithrix runs
brave relic
you can still double rebar with power mode roight?
yeah
calm solstice
huge damage is good at start but then procs work better tbh
unique drum
but long runs are so good
tepid wolf
Power mode double rebar is not very good
brave relic
yeah
pale iris
Power mode double rebar is not very good
*rebar is not very good
unique drum
is double nailgun good now or is it cringe?
dull ingot
good
brave relic
rebar is pretty good
tepid wolf
Double nailgun is a diet double power saw
dull ingot
rebar has piercing and procs bands, and its a primary lmao
brave relic
is double nailgun good now or is it cringe?
it's nice
calm solstice
btw how is new REX special
pale iris
but's so slow
brave relic
nah not really
pale iris
btw how is new REX special
it's monster teeth
dull ingot
wait if its monster tooth but good does it mean that the healing bulbs heal allies?
brave relic
btw how is new REX special
you shoot enemies and they get infected with a fruit thing, when they die they drop a bunch of fruits (scales with enemy health I think) that heal for a pretty big amount
calm solstice
I wanna play more with Loader's new special on swarms
tepid wolf
The new Rex special is not very good
brave relic
it's great on multiplayer, and it's okay on singleplayer
tepid wolf
You lose your AOE, root and better heal for that fruit
brave relic
on multiplayer you basically just become the team healer
unique drum
I do not enjoy rex
calm solstice
REX is now a good fit for Diablo lmao
brave relic
because the fruits heals for a pretty big amount, and enemies drops alot
pale iris
you also lose the ability to cheese the siren's call boss for easy legendary
tepid wolf
Also you can't bully Mithrix without the root
unique drum
bruh
brave relic
Yeah the fruit isn't too great for Mithrix
tepid wolf
Engie is the same
pale iris
he got no changes
brave relic
the maximum you can do is try to infect the little exploder chimeras for fruits for yourself/your team
calm solstice
broken as always lol
unique drum
don't familiars get changes?
tepid wolf
Judt his mobile turrets got a indirect buff and his M1 is better
calm solstice
only drones I believe
pale iris
you mean drones? I think turrets use different AI
tepid wolf
No all allies
unique drum
broken as always lol
idk the hype around engie. Sure, if you get bungus, he's fun, but what about if you dont?
dull ingot
he got no changes
nades go furthur
tepid wolf
They improved beetle guard AI, ghost AI, drone AI, and mobile turret AI
calm solstice
idk the hype around engie. Sure, if you get bungus, he's fun, but what about if ...
it's hard to not get bungus tho
pale iris
nades go furthur
interesting
calm solstice
but I actually prefer walking turrets
tepid wolf
Engie js fine
calm solstice
you can be mobile
unique drum
it's hard to not get bungus tho
nah, up until that point all his abilities are too slow for me and are annoying to use
dull ingot
to be exact, the grenades got some slight antigravity which allows them to go far
brave relic
idk the hype around engie. Sure, if you get bungus, he's fun, but what about if ...
mobile turrets :]
tulip nimbus
Mobile turrets? Cringe
brave relic
no
pale iris
I really wish he had a different M1
dull ingot
mobile turrets? P o g
unique drum
mobile turrets :]
worse beetle guards yayyyyy
tepid wolf
Mushrums, golem chimeras, elder lems, brass contraptions , imp overlords, grandparents care about no bungus
dull ingot
I really wish he had a different M1
wrench perhaps?. might aswell go bonk some beetles
calm solstice
I really wish he had a different M1
visions
tepid wolf
Oh yeah on console mobile turrets are broken
brave relic
worse beetle guards yayyyyy
same dps as the stationary turrets, a bit less of a proc coef and they have a debuff
and they don't have the bullet falloff the regular turret does
tepid wolf
Like everything
calm solstice
ally beetle guards are so annoying tbh
brave relic
- they are better with visions of heresy
unique drum
what does the grandparent do? im on console and dying to know
brave relic
since they have near perfect aim with it
tulip nimbus
It kills
pale iris
~~visions~~
I don't want the turrets to become shit though
calm solstice
I know grandparent can put some huge debuff on a bit area
dull ingot
the grandparent throws rocks and explodes and also turns into the fucking sun?
calm solstice
it has sun icon but idk what it does
pale iris
more like summon the fucking sun
brave relic
what does the grandparent do? im on console and dying to know
He can throw rocks, He can throw a sun that is pretty much a blackhole
and when he's low, he creates a mega sun, that you need to hide behind something, otherwise you will burn to death
dull ingot
i just kill him as fast as possible since hes a freaky dude
unique drum
He can throw rocks, He can throw a sun that is pretty much a blackhole
and when ...
sheesh
pale iris
it stack dot
tulip nimbus
Yea grandparent fooking ruins me its burn does so much damage
unique drum
is planula good even?
pale iris
on everything
brave relic
I think the sun debuff increases the damage of all the blazing debuffs
dull ingot
He can throw rocks, He can throw a sun that is pretty much a blackhole
and when ...
that sun burn thing deals alot of damage
calm solstice
grandparent is fucking tennis rocket
brave relic
is planula good even?
better armor plating
tulip nimbus
Yes planula is good but situational
dull ingot
is planula good even?
heal for 15(15 per stack) when hit
unique drum
better armor plating
but armor plating falls off
tepid wolf
The fire donjt
dull ingot
also has a lil dude in it
unique drum
WAIT
tulip nimbus
Planula is good
tepid wolf
The planula is not very good
unique drum
engie build
tepid wolf
You only get it at stage 5
pale iris
you really don't want mithrix to have planula trust me
calm solstice
planula sounds kinda meh for boss item tbh
tepid wolf
And that is way too late
modest trout
The grandparent is just a.... sunion ring....
brave relic
planula mithrix is easy
dull ingot
theres a lil dude in there he vibing
tepid wolf
Fought Mithrix with it and it was easy
calm solstice
but at least that's some combat healing item
tulip nimbus
planula makes Dots heal you
calm solstice
especially since they removed heal per kill :(
unique drum
turrets + bungus + nukahanas + rejuv + hellfire + razorwire + planula
brave relic
I once had planula mithrix with a rejuv rack on top, and he still wasn't healing for much
tepid wolf
Planula is useless by the point you see kt
dull ingot
whos the lil guy in the planula
brave relic
a Parent
calm solstice
parent
tulip nimbus
Its a parent
unique drum
whos the lil guy in the planula
lil man. dont question it.
tepid wolf
Outside of damage below 15 it's the same as 3 armor plates
dull ingot
do not question the lil man appearntly
tulip nimbus
"Yes – the egg. The grandparent incubates the eggs."
"And the child?"
"The child lays the egg."
"And the egg becomes the…?"
"The parent."
"Okay. And the parent does what?"
"Takes care of children – and the grandparent."
"And the grandparent is the youngest?"
"Younger than the child, yes. But not the youngest."
"Who is the youngest?"
"The parent."
"…"
unique drum
Outside of damage below 15 it's the same as 3 armor plates
scales with rejuv?
tepid wolf
And it only drops later on in a run
brave relic
The Child lays the egg
The Grandparent Incubates the egg
The Parent gets out of the egg to protect the child and the grandparent
unique drum
sky meadows is still cbt though
tepid wolf
I mean sure but 30 damage reduction is not much at stage 5
tulip nimbus
Also ancestral incubator is in the game files with a full log
unique drum
an elite elder lemurian ALWAYS spawns halfway across the map and you can ALWAYS see him waddle over to you
pale iris
also iteresting thing about mithrix: item retrieval is tied to damage dealt not damage sustained
calm solstice
elite elder lemurians are rarer now tho
dull ingot
isnt there a spot where in runs grandparents always spawn on
calm solstice
since they decreased meadow's initial spawn
dull ingot
near one of the newt altar spawns are near one of the holes that lead under the map theres this plateue that seems to always have grandparents late in a run
pale iris
what does the new wetland aspect look like?
what?
dull ingot
what does the new wetland aspect look like?
bad area you can go in without going around the entire map, roof in this area too
dull ingot
yknow that one blocked off area?, roof there. very nice
pale iris
I didn't notice anything diferent
unique drum
yknow that one blocked off area?, roof there. very nice
oof
calm solstice
wetland aspect has worst layout right after grove
brave relic
what does the new wetland aspect look like?
remains pretty much the same, but it did have some design changes
tulip nimbus
Yea they minorly reworked wetland
unique drum
wetland aspect has worst layout right after grove
oh yeah grove is just sky meadows early I heard
pale iris
yes
pale iris
and it's legendary chest has multiple possible spawn points
unique drum
There was SO much hype for grove but it just sucks
calm solstice
I mean at least you can find it easily cause of shrooms
pale iris
I really wish it had stayed to stadia
dull ingot
i hate sundered
calm solstice
it also was so fucking broken at release
dull ingot
it crashes me somtimes, pain.
calm solstice
I remember finding hole to outside of textures lmfao
unique drum
I remember the one screenie of the two vagrants and I thought it would be like a jellyfish/overloading themed thing but it just has the spawns of sky meadows AKA dogshit
dull ingot
ive found like 2 spots to clip out of the map on sundered n stuff
modest trout
I'm suprised they didn't address it during the update, shame
unique drum
ive found like 2 spots to clip out of the map on sundered n stuff
sometimes I use commando mobility on hills and I just clip
dull ingot
mercs dash is also good for clipping
calm solstice
did they fix nonexistent roof in wetland
that's the only map where you could launch self in outer space lol
unique drum
guys did you ever notice the big ring around the trees in the background of wetland aspect?
calm solstice
yea
unique drum
My theory was that they the same trees in scorched acres
dull ingot
so what your saying is that scorched arces is high as fuck
unique drum
yeah
dull ingot
the mountains?
pale iris
is the island there in bounds?
calm solstice
I wonder if rallypoint is actually near planet's poles
unique drum
I wonder if rallypoint is actually near planet's poles
it IS the ice level
signal pecan
im not a doctor, but i think commencement is a bit higher up
calm solstice
I mean Petrichor V is a very weird planet
unique drum
have u ever seen the colossus (ror1) head in roost?
calm solstice
yea
signal pecan
yeah
dull ingot
okay so what if, hear me out here. commando is actually a beetle?
calm solstice
excuse me
unique drum
okay so what if, hear me out here. commando is actually a beetle?
this isn't a revelation
signal pecan
okay so what if, hear me out here. commando is actually a beetle?
clay man 2
unique drum
all the survivors ar beetles
signal pecan
the bubble helmet is just the clay pot
dull ingot
oh my HAN-D is beetle too?
calm solstice
Mithrix and Providence are beetles
dull ingot
oh my fucking god everyone is beetle
unique drum
oh my HAN-D is beetle too?
yes theres a little dude in the head
pale iris
excuse you captain is three beatles in a trenchcoat
calm solstice
Planet is one giant beetle
dull ingot
does this mean that hopoo is beetle too?, what if im a beetle?. what if your a beetle? oh god
dull ingot
oh my god is the enforcer also a beetle?
unique drum
very steaming hot take
calm solstice
guys we solved RoR2 lore
calm solstice
now Hopoo must release RoR3
unique drum
and thats good
pale iris
the new logs arent that good
stop too hot
unique drum
but it just doesnt have the same wonder/mystery that the other logs had
it feels uninspired, I guess
dull ingot
stun grenade log is funi
pale iris
I kinda agree actually wished we got something like sac dag log and the new lunar logs are worse than the old ones
unique drum
I kinda agree actually wished we got something like sac dag log and the new luna...
yeah
void reaver log is best in the game
calm solstice
at least moon is actually good now
pale iris
cramb
calm solstice
and I only found out you dont have to pillars
unique drum
goddamn this game has some godlike atmosphere
dull ingot
imagine doing pillars?, cringe!. -this post was made by loader gang
unique drum
and the new logs just kinda crinky dinky
tulip nimbus
The planula log is good
dull ingot
love the moon atmosphere
calm solstice
imagine doing pillars?, cringe!. -this post was made by loader gang
proceeds to die cause is melee
dull ingot
runald band
unique drum
proceeds to live since bands
calm solstice
what about item succ tho
pale iris
how do you even begin to beat mithrix as a melee surv
signal pecan
how do you even begin to beat mithrix as a melee surv
ponch
calm solstice
tbh mithrix only has one really bad attack before stage 4
dry dirge
pale iris
doesn't he just bonk you
calm solstice
fucking spin lines
unique drum
how do you even begin to beat mithrix as a melee surv
for merc, eviscerate, for loader, hit and run, for acrid, poison
dull ingot
revolving door makes me died
unique drum
revolving door makes me died
yes
dull ingot
they do 800% damage and CRIPPLE YOU
cripple slows you, try dodging the rest of the revolving doors
pale iris
I hate that attack so much
unique drum
if they just had less doors then it would be good
tulip nimbus
Revolving doors is the easiest attack in the game to dodge, if you are close to him they move extremely slow lol
calm solstice
"Damn nice items you got there" kills you in 2 hits of revolving doors
unique drum
Revolving doors is the easiest attack in the game to dodge, if you are close to ...
shut up. You saying beetles are tougher than doors?
tulip nimbus
Yes
calm solstice
why do even beetles exist
signal pecan
revolving doors is quite easy for me, you can predict (get lucky) the pattern and go away from him
tulip nimbus
Try getting close to him
unique drum
why do even beetles exist
man
calm solstice
they only may be a threat as malachites and only cause of throwing spikes
pale iris
if you are far away it seems like they can't hit you unless you get unlucky and that always bothers me
dull ingot
okay so what if, here me out here. ravenous bite is actually mithrix
unique drum
Try getting close to him
if u get close, then you have less time to react/move away
unique drum
okay so what if, here me out here. ravenous bite is actually mithrix
real
signal pecan
why would i trust an artificer main
tulip nimbus
Its way easier
dull ingot
whos the artificer main
unique drum
why providence look cool but mithrix just looks white and hammer
tulip nimbus
Actually I main loader technically 
calm solstice
I dont like being in range of mithrix' bonker
tulip nimbus
Just try it once you'll never go back
pale iris
why providence look cool but mithrix just looks white and hammer
he is an anvil wielding a hammer
tulip nimbus
When he does wheel of fortune just get close
dull ingot
why providence look cool but mithrix just looks white and hammer
okay so provi has a cool hat, and mithrix doesnt
tulip nimbus
Its socl easy
unique drum
Actually I main loader technically <:happiesttroll:790347758732050463>
loader is ONLY fun with default punch
tulip nimbus
No
unique drum
alt punch too good
pale iris
loader's fun?
calm solstice
why providence look cool but mithrix just looks white and hammer
he's white that's why
he ain't got drip
pale iris
pretty sure he says he hates drip in a log somewhere
whole vault
soldier syringe is the way to play loader
dull ingot
is bamdit beeble?
calm solstice
he's jealous Providence got all the drip
dull ingot
they both have 1 eye so tehy must be the same
unique drum
they both have 1 eye so tehy must be the same
bandit has 2 eyes like huntress you doofus
dull ingot
bamdit is bald actually
pale iris
beatles have 2 eyes guards have 1
calm solstice
dont beetles have 5 tho
unique drum
but 1 big one
yeah
calm solstice
does it mean Beetle Queen is actually rule over Mithrix???
unique drum
how op are the new lunars?
dull ingot
veri
unique drum
is hooks always a pick up?
dull ingot
hooks is nice so is ruin
unique drum
what about ruin?
dull ingot
hooks?:
bamdit, yeh
captain, yuh
unique drum
what does ruin do?
dull ingot
hit enemies to get ruin, press r to detonate
calm solstice
hooks are a bit hard to use at start
pale iris
idk why they made it so you can actually cheat the game with lunar coins now
unique drum
hooks seems like a pick on everybody except acrid loader and (maybe) commado
calm solstice
commando shotgun is op wtf
pale iris
like heretic is strong and getting a tonic setup is so easy now if you have lots of coins
calm solstice
I wish every commando a very phase blast
unique drum
there should be more ways to get boss items
like what is the chance of getting the boss item?
dull ingot
i wish all mercs,loaders,huntresses, & artificers a very backup mag
unique drum
im addicted to mult damage rn
calm solstice
im addicted to loader
dull ingot
i wish all TR12 Stationary Auto-Turret users a very bungi
calm solstice
same reason I love Forgotten in isaac lol
punching enemies in face is so satisfying
unique drum
is the new merc alt good?
unique drum
better?
dull ingot
depends
calm solstice
less i frames tho
dull ingot
i like the more damage
unique drum
but eviscerate is for frames
calm solstice
Captain: "Who needs i frames when you can't be shot"
unique drum
there could be more potential for merc combos with alt
unique drum
Captain: "Who needs i frames when you can't be shot"
also captain gets fucked by 7=8 wisps
im thinking
pale iris
captain turning into heretic is easier mode
calm solstice
Captain is easy mode*
unique drum
what about 3rd - whirlwind - assault - 3rd - whirlwind for massive damage?
with the new alt
brave relic
but eviscerate is for frames
eviscerate cringe
unique drum
eviscerate cringe
true but i frames
also is the prismatic trials chatroom literally only for ppl complaining about slicing winds?
tulip nimbus
No
brave relic
nah it's actually pretty chill in there
pale iris
who else plays prismatic trials
tulip nimbus
Prismatic trial server is for 
brave relic
there's either frog raid or people unlocking slicing winds
there's also Cabbage in there
pale iris
any rewards for prismatic trials will be bad one way or another
brave relic
pale iris
then people will be mad they have to play trials to get it
brave relic
*loder
calm solstice
no one is mad about requirement for Diablo tho
calm solstice
and it's not the easiest one
unique drum
*modder
pale iris
no one is mad about requirement for Diablo tho
yes they are
calm solstice
wait who
unique drum
OMG hopoo says cheaters are modders CONFIREMD???!?!?!?
sturdy wave
diablo's requirements are hard but like,, FUCK ethereal
pale iris
I have seen many people bitch about it being annoying to unlock
calm solstice
tbh if you think about it killing Mithrix with PROBE is a fucking joke
and so is skill you unlock with it
dull ingot
im back
pale iris
yeah but could a joke skip phase 3 and 4 on mithrix
sturdy wave
I was two achievements away from 100% the game before the update, one was ethereal and the other is the demons and the crabs
calm solstice
40000% wtf
brave relic
DIABLO strike + bands
pale iris
you should be able to use it once and it hits the whole map and bypasses 1 shot prot
calm solstice
you do not need bands after diablo
brave relic
I am not satisfied with 40000% damage, I need more
calm solstice
take a crowbar
pale iris
just get 3 of em lmao
tepid wolf
The second one
calm solstice
holy fu-
tepid wolf
I mean it's still a meme ability
calm solstice
absolutely
tepid wolf
Felt good though when I killed an elite boss with a band proc from it
calm solstice
I wish it could damage in coop lol
pale iris
you guys just aren't memeing hard enough you should also bring zap supply beacon
tepid wolf
Basically just drop it somewhere and target the nuke in the middle of it
Then you can just ignore it for the next 20 seconds
calm solstice
image doing it on swarms + sacrifice
pale iris
why is everyone so obssesd with sacrifice and swarms it removes the main challenge of the game
brave relic
because Quickplay bad
tepid wolf
Also command breaks the game too. Really fun for meme builds though
dry dirge
my favorite emoji as well as , , , and 
brave relic
calm solstice
brave relic
unique drum
I just had a 10 minute mithrix phase 1
pale iris
<:driptain:796408516818370660>
I found the best emote
unique drum
this is the mercenary experience
sturdy wave
command and sacrifice is the most fun way to play, I'm sorry I hate rnjesus
calm solstice
Captain wearing his best drip before violating geneva convention 100 times in span of day
pale iris
command and sacrifice is the most fun way to play, I'm sorry I hate rnjesus
command + many item pickups = pain
calm solstice
sacrifice + swarms is the most rng setup ever lol
calm solstice
also tfw boss item gets stuck on wall and you have command
sturdy wave
people are allowed to have fun man
tepid wolf
That's their entire gimmicks/replayability
unique drum
Then don't play roguelikes if you don't like RNG
let ppl play the damn game the way they want
tepid wolf
I am just saying to the argument to "RNG bad" sorry for sounding a bit too rude there
calm solstice
all we know that true way to RoR2 is beating Mithrix sub 10 on Monsoon
pale iris
Captain wearing his best drip before violating geneva convention 100 times in sp...
why do you mean I have to wait 40 seconds before I can call in another nuke I just killed a flaming beeble boi gimme another
unique drum
I am just saying to the argument to "RNG bad" sorry for sounding a bit too rude ...
roguelikes can be rng based but also artifact of command
arctic vine
RNG certainly can be bad, i think ror2 handles it fairly well though
unique drum
personally I like the rng elements but yeah sometimes you are fucked by rng
tepid wolf
Was just never fan of command outside of memes since you usually end up with the same build
unique drum
Was just never fan of command outside of memes since you usually end up with the...
nah
calm solstice
meme razorwire build
tepid wolf
A game that has a lot of RNG is Bindings of Isaac though
calm solstice
I love Isaac tbh
tepid wolf
That game has over 800 items or something
calm solstice
except when it drives me nuts
pale iris
and so many trash items
tepid wolf
That game is pure chance. ROR2 though is really good at handling RNG though
pale iris
here atleast we only have memelyp
tepid wolf
Rarely do I fell like I got screwed over
calm solstice
Brass Contraptions
pale iris
wait
dry dirge
the last 34 large chests i've opened have been greens.
pale iris
brass contraptions
dry dirge
calm solstice
I just can’t understand their damage
sturdy wave
yall ever desperately need whites and get a shield generator
vernal canopy
Yo, anyone else been using this new prismatic trial?
calm solstice
Ya ever get clover from common chest as first item
vernal canopy
Fucking great for getting mercs infamous ability, but I;m fumbling on it rn
yes, I have gotten a clover
calm solstice
I want to feel Loader’s new special more
vernal canopy
i'm trying to get his ability from prismatic, but RNJesus hasn't smiled upon me until now
calm solstice
Original special is amazing for clearing out wisps but SLAM
tepid wolf
Oh yeah the loader slam made her even more OP
vernal canopy
^^^^
tepid wolf
Replaced her only "weak" ability
calm solstice
I just can’t describe how satisfying it is with swarms
tepid wolf
Her M1 is a good ability too, since you can just facetank everything
calm solstice
Just wait for enemies to group up and then boom
tepid wolf
Like kind of funny how they essentially buffed loader instead
By a pretty good margin too
calm solstice
Damn REX’s classic special is really wildin with new update
So much possible interactions
tepid wolf
She can do 4700% or 4100% damage instantly from a standstill
The alt R is ok but worse for singleplayer than tangling growth
For multiplayer it's good early healing for your teammates
signal pecan
i culled a few birds...
tepid wolf
Also tangling growth is way better outside of the early game in multiplayer too
Damn slicing winds and rising thunder
severe chasm
The new special disappoints me greatly
tepid wolf
In general haven't seen rising thunder in ages
signal pecan
yep
tepid wolf
Mostly because it's alright with eviscerate, but not that great with winds
signal pecan
its just what i prefer for merc honestly
tepid wolf
Also the new dash for merc is great with slicing winds
severe chasm
Its doesn't give you mobility and it's not like expose is a percent of damage dealt it's just flat damage
calm solstice
I wish artificer had alt for wall
tepid wolf
So much CD reduction
severe chasm
Them giving merc another way to apply expose is HUGE
tepid wolf
Slicing winds is way more DPS than eviscerate
signal pecan
^
severe chasm
Yeah, has been for a while
tepid wolf
Since it hits 3 enemies, reduces CDs and has a 1050% damage on top of it from the expose too and also has range
And does not lock you out
signal pecan
welp, ill be back if i win
severe chasm
Merc is crazy
tepid wolf
The alt dash though is mostly useful for groups. For single targets and wisps it is painful
signal pecan
got commando :/
calm solstice
Wisps are painful on any melee
tepid wolf
He is better, but not that powerful super powerful
signal pecan
yeah i just dont have much practice without going for a certain build
tepid wolf
Also captain has more DPS still
severe chasm
Someone in the lab discord told me that. Can I see the source @tepid wolf
Haven't crunched the numbers myself
tepid wolf
I think at least command now has nearly 700% DPS
tepid wolf
Captain has 960%
calm solstice
Oh btw how exactly commando changed
I didn’t understand all that double tap stuff
severe chasm
Can I see the source? @tepid wolf. Did you account for cooldowns?
signal pecan
also ending the run if i get artificer on commencement
tepid wolf
Yes commando has a 0.15 seconds cooldown for double tap so he fires 7 times per second
calm solstice
Artificer is pretty good
signal pecan
i cant stand playing her
tepid wolf
He does not fire 14 shots
calm solstice
But visions and strides required
severe chasm
100/6.66 from 90/5 @calm solstice
severe chasm
But visions and strides required
Not even remotely
tepid wolf
Commando now fires 7 times per second from 6 times per second
calm solstice
Visions on artificer are amazing if you get procs
tepid wolf
And deals 700% DPS instead of 540%
severe chasm
I really want to see your math on the 700% Duke
blazing lagoon
I played him a couple of times, he's still not that good
tepid wolf
So yes commando has more procs per second by 1, but has 1 less DPS
severe chasm
How are you calculating DPS?
tepid wolf
Each bullet has a 0.15 cooldown on commando
blazing lagoon
it's still because of his innate design, you have a lot of procs but you have to get these items first
tepid wolf
You can obviously see commando does not fire 14 times per second
calm solstice
I don’t think commando would top Captain’s dps cause Captain is heavy dps character
And Commando is just... default
tepid wolf
Just record one second of firing the M1
severe chasm
Blast as well though
I'm counting that too. Not just M1
Ability rotation is what I'm talking about
tepid wolf
No we are just counting the M1 you never said anything about other abilities
tepid wolf
Makes way more sense now
tepid wolf
Since yeah the captain's M1 is more early DPS until the higher procs of double tap come in
blazing lagoon
if ur also counting suppressive fire/grenade
calm solstice
Ew grenade
calm solstice
I use it for stun lol
blazing lagoon
I use it for stun lol
you have 
tulip nimbus
Depressive fire is garbage
tepid wolf
Using M1 and throwing nades in between is a lot better
calm solstice
Only when RNJesus gives me
signal pecan
game crash reeee
blazing lagoon
plus stun is only useful on those handful of enemies
brave relic
also with 1 stun grenade as commando you can already proc it a bunch
calm solstice
Stun is good on big guys
calm solstice
If you have templars and no stun you may be in trouble tbh
calm solstice
Depends if you have where to hide and how far are they
brave relic
also you can just get close to them
gets easier to dodge, and they start using their M2
calm solstice
I remember earlier days when I hated them above all else
tepid wolf
I also really used to dislike templars, but they have become more of an annoyance
Especially constantly knocking you back if you are melee
calm solstice
Brass bitches on other hand
brave relic
brazong
blazing lagoon
templar is really dangerous when it's malachite
tepid wolf
At that point they should be no threat though
brave relic
templars become pretty scary when they are elite or when they are in groups
blazing lagoon
define god run
tepid wolf
Not really, if you even get to the point that T2 elite templars spawn everything dies instantly to proc chains anyway
Since you would have died before that point
calm solstice
That’s tbh beyond god run
tepid wolf
That's pretty normal for several loops
On the first loop you are not seeing a malachite clay templar
calm solstice
True
brave relic
define god run
everything dies because of ceremonial daggers or tesla coil
tepid wolf
Also meathooks and ukuleles
calm solstice
My main problem with looping are brass balls
How do they just take half HP with single hit
calm solstice
From what I read they actually deal a multiple hits in one second
tepid wolf
They do not
severe chasm
Depressive fire is garbage
Depressive fire LMAO
tepid wolf
It's just one giant hit (of even if it was), so OSP still works
Overloading elites have that delayed bomb
That is also based on the original hit's damage
blazing lagoon
contraptionss attacks are over 400% base damage
and their base damage is pretty high compared to other big enemies
brave relic
Balanced Contraptions
calm solstice
They’re a main run ender for me
bright palm
turn on evolution and get bands
calm solstice
Just getting hit randomly and die
blazing lagoon
just looked up wiki, contraption is 19 and elder lemurian is 16
tepid wolf
Also wisps caused me a lot of deaths
brave relic
turn on evolution and get bands
Malachite Brass Contraption horde of many
and they have crit glasses, crowbars, double bands and a brilliant behemoth
tepid wolf
Usually indirectly by getting me low or directly by finishing me off
blazing lagoon
They’re a main run ender for me
just press a or d bruh
bright palm
lmao
tepid wolf
Also malachite/celestine wisps casually hitting me for 90% of my HP
calm solstice
I love how big wisps become useless if you have hopoo feather
brave relic
*armor plating
tepid wolf
Big wisps have always been useless
Only ever got killed by one in a horde of many bosses
tulip nimbus
Greater wisps become useless if you have suppressive fire
tepid wolf
Greater wisps in general are less threatening than lesser wisps
brave relic
most of the time I get hit by the end of the AoE of the Greater Wisps
calm solstice
They don’t even deal that much damage from explosion
And getting direct hit is pretty hard
tepid wolf
Only a horde of greater wisps are a threat
tulip nimbus
Yea but blazing horde is death
calm solstice
Horde of blazing elder lemurians