shotgun better
#gd2-nullified
lone mantle
dull ingot
I think new bandits kit feels way more cohesive
lone mantle
that revolver swivel b4 shooting ... sexy.........
high torrent
m1 alt has a stupid spread that negates all ranged advantage
dull ingot
I'm glad dynamite packs gone lol
lone mantle
m1 alt has a stupid spread that negates all ranged advantage
it's also like way too weak to bother with imo
lucid birch
Uh there is an easy way to do it in any difficulty, just avoid on purpose bands and remeber That you have a Bonus damage based on missing Hp with Lights out, the damage without boosts is about 1700 with crits, so if you rush Mithrix asap it's gonna be easy, low base damage but he has lower hp so lights out will take care very easily of him
dull ingot
The rifle needs more ammo or something
high torrent
I'm glad dynamite packs gone lol
dunno, I liked this the most
lone mantle
Uh there is an easy way to do it in any difficulty, just avoid on purpose bands ...
for sure i just didn't realize all this first time around unfortuantely
uncut jewel
The rifle needs more ammo or something
make it scale with extra mag 😛
deep rune
also has anyone else gone up against the grandparents? what do they even do, when I vs'ed them they were literally just a glob of yellow beneath me that melted all of my drones as I killed them
dull ingot
I just personally feel like the dagger and hemmorage with backstab flows better than dynamite packs ever did
lone mantle
grandparent hasnt killed me but theyre SUPER cool
lucid birch
@lone mantle you know what's worse imo? Try getting the Alternate secondary GOOD LUCK
uncut jewel
i mean, Bandit is strong as they are, they dont need any buffs
dull ingot
Yeah grand parents have like 3 attacks. A big aoe one. The gravity ball that pulls you. And they can throw boulders
They die wierdly fast in my experience tho
deep rune
I mean I had a little disciple run going when I vsed them so they werent an issue but I was stacking up a ton of drones and they just destroyed literally all of them from me
lucid birch
@dull ingot I'm still looking for an enemy that can survive 20+ Emorage stacks...
uncut jewel
Spinel Tonic sounds like Mithrax is poisoning people outside their own moon and the planet
how odd
lucid birch
Ally worship unit my dude
Wait... The one on the 4th stage? Oh God...
dull ingot
The big bird robot yeah
uncut jewel
<@456226577798135808> I'm still looking for an enemy that can survive 20+ Emora...
im looking for an enemy that can survive 50 willo's who is not the endgameboss
dull ingot
Him or aurelionite
deep rune
@dull ingot I assume to unlock it you just get purities and then just sit on top of it and keep slashing it yea?
high torrent
I just personally feel like the dagger and hemmorage with backstab flows better ...
they do be flowing and the backstab passive forces you into some interesting gameplay, but I really miss the dynamite aoe, going into close range to do this is kinda painful
getting gasoline is pretty useful tho
lucid birch
Him or aurelionite
20 stages no aurelionite, I tried on mitrix... Nope he dies as fast as a fart
dull ingot
I got full crit and backup mags / purity. But at the time I didn't know abt bandits backstab passive lol
uncut jewel
Aurelionite is honestly quite an amazing character altho beeing made from Mithrix
dull ingot
Just do a command run on drizzle and lunar coin to sirens call on 4.
lucid birch
Yeah BRB
dull ingot
Don't go too long you don't want tons of procs to kill them before you stack it
uncut jewel
wait which challenge is this?
dull ingot
20 hemorage stacks
lucid birch
Don't go too long you don't want tons of procs to kill them before you stack it
Gonna buy 2 purity 10 mag and 10 lenses
uncut jewel
go for endless, get 20 mags and a strong enemy
dull ingot
You won't need 10 mags. I had like 3 xD
lucid birch
K
uncut jewel
i got 20 stacks on the wandering vagrant!
deep rune
@uncut jewel easy if you are willing to use artifacts to unlock it, which I am but still
dull ingot
10 lenses 2 purity and 3 mags or something was what I had .+ Some other random items to smooth the run
upbeat ruin
Aurelionite is honestly quite an amazing character altho beeing made from Mithri...
I thought it was the other way around? I could have swore aurealionite was a creation of providence.
deep rune
artifacts made unlocking so many items so easy
upbeat ruin
mithrix got mad at him and sealed it
dull ingot
Yeah providence makes aurelionite and it has personality or something
And mithrix was worried it would rebel i think
uncut jewel
I thought it was the other way around? I could have swore aurealionite was a cre...
they were created by someone, and well providence is gone and aurelionite are still helping us soooo ummm
upbeat ruin
he was like "hell no this thing is powerful and has free will"
deep rune
and aurelionite is like actually kinda closeish to their powerlevel
uncut jewel
unsure maybe mithrix is jelly because Providence actually made a beeing better than he could ever make
upbeat ruin
that is part of it iirc
dull ingot
Yeah aurelionite was too self aware if I recall
shrewd jacinth
How do you even unlock Bandit's alt M2? 20 feels like they die before you get that many
deep rune
nah mithrix always knew he couldnt make like anything, just that he had the brains providence didnt really have
uncut jewel
too intelligent, i mean THEY WROTE THEIR OWN LOG
dull ingot
And would eventually realize it didn't like being a guard bot
Bardial. Stack it on alloy worship unit.
upbeat ruin
the stuff mithrix builds are closer to robots or golems
uncut jewel
BTW
did anyone catch on that Aurelionite is a wordplay on (stalagmite, and AU (gold)
deep rune
@upbeat ruin yea mithrix has the mind and creativity to make designs, but not the hands to create them, while providence was the opposite
uncut jewel
actually i might be pulling that out of my butt
dull ingot
Mithrix is an architect. Providence is an engineer
deep rune
thats why he only made like really uncreative things
uncut jewel
i mean mithrix is shit at creativity
upbeat ruin
basically he is a giant nerd
uncut jewel
agreed
strange carbon
does attack speed really do anything on bandit?
dull ingot
Because he's designed for effeciency and usefulness. Not creativity
deep rune
by creativity I meant designing a ton of their stuff
uncut jewel
does attack speed really do anything on bandit?
makes you able to spam m2 if you have enought backupmags
dull ingot
Yes. It effects how fast you reload
uncut jewel
and spam R
deep rune
@strange carbon faster R animatiion, faster reload and shot speed
uncut jewel
faster slash too
strange carbon
hugh. I can't feel it on his reload speed
uncut jewel
deep rune
if you get the horns and use your equipment you feel it really fast
uncut jewel
Honestly the name of AU-relion-ite is just fucking clever!
its a creature so bright aswell that it even joins us... madlad
dull ingot
also. the log for the prison makes it clear aurelionite knows its trapped
'a gilded cage is still a cage'
uncut jewel
also. the log for the prison makes it clear aurelionite knows its trapped
bruh it sais in aurelions too that they are imprissoned
read dammit! 😛
dull ingot
obviously. but the gilded coast log mentions it too
remember that most people wont ever unlock aurelionites log xD
uncut jewel
SAD
dull ingot
so its good the log that is actually obtainable for most the player base also drives the point home
dull ingot
send a screenshot
uncut jewel
upbeat ruin
aurelionite was fuckin pissed.
dull ingot
mithrix probably lol
kindred jackal
I like the egg 🥚
upbeat ruin
that is hilarious
uncut jewel
ah shit you might be right
dull ingot
for some reason his log still shows as locked until you get the log
even if you beat him.
uncut jewel
whja
dull ingot
it was something I remember when he got added. you could beat the game and mithrix would still show up as a lock in your monster log until you actually got his log to drop
dull ingot
which is about 3% chance per run if I recall. people say each phase of the fight can drop the log and theres three phases
uncut jewel
oh wait the one next to solus is the alloy boyo isnt it?
dull ingot
yes
errant bramble
the one to the right of that is the grovetenders
dull ingot
grovetender
uncut jewel
the spiritual boyo
dull ingot
I think anyways.
uncut jewel
wait whos this last non-boss boyo then... hmmmm
dull ingot
errant bramble
i still haven't gotten the wisp log book in my game. that stupid enemy just refuses to drop the book for me.
lunar wisp
dull ingot
Also. that one next to chimra is mithrix. the dude on the last page is grandparent
uncut jewel
i still haven't gotten the wisp log book in my game. that stupid enemy just refu...
classic
ahhhhh
dull ingot
uncut jewel
wait nani granddad?!
dull ingot
ive only seen grandparent spawn on sky meadow
upbeat ruin
the grandparent really knows how to make a entrance tho.
uncut jewel
1 downside with command and sacrifice, if you dont take the loot it will never de-spawn or unload
dull ingot
yeah grandparents awesome. they did a really good job
uncut jewel
still havent seen em... will need to check on that
but anyways where was i...
RIGHT why does mythrix have providence's sword at the moon?
dull ingot
he has lots of weapons. they arent all swords
uncut jewel
or is it their own?
dull ingot
I assume he was just making weapons lol
uncut jewel
i mean the sword does not look monish
dull ingot
You can find other copies of his hammer too, some axes and pikes are also sitting around
It looks pretty moon ish, its made of moon rock xD
uncut jewel
hummmm
dull ingot
also if theres any other significance to them we havnt figured it out yet, just got added this patch
uncut jewel
BTW if anyone wonders what Omagma worm log is
dull ingot
naw thats about providence
uncut jewel
ah right
upbeat ruin
yeah I think that is providence
uncut jewel
fuck me....
dull ingot
he has overloading wurm as one of his 2 wurms
I dont remember the other wurms name. I just know it shot lasers xD
upbeat ruin
also that gilded coast log makes me sad about not visiting gold boy more.
dull ingot
thats why overloading wurms title is 'the reminder'
Bc it specifically is tied to providence, symbolically
upbeat ruin
maybe he will get more company now he is actually good
uncut jewel
but GF Volume IX would that be commando's log?
uncut jewel
yeah no i meant as in this log of the Omagma
cause i mean SOMEONE must have either been VERY drugged, and also very lucky, or someone actually saw providence and lived to tell the tale
dull ingot
another cool log is the medkit
Its about enforcer from the first game
after the crash
uncut jewel
oh shit it is
Damn..... Ror1 had soem good borgs
Hand-e, med-e, giant gun in a cargo ship-e
upbeat ruin
im gonna be so mad if we dont get him by the end of support. I loved enforcer and im sure there is a good way to translate him to 3D
dull ingot
chef
dull ingot
enforcer will show up eventually. hes one of the most requested returning cast. along with sniper and chef
upbeat ruin
they managed to turn loader into something wildly fun so im hopeful
dull ingot
then theres miner, whos just kinda there.
uncut jewel
Cullinary Hyper Efficient Foodie
dull ingot
'idk man I just mine shit'
dull ingot
miner would need a totally new kit tho, the mod that directly ports their kit over is good but they play a lot like merc
upbeat ruin
I loved HAN-D personally. all games need massive hammers
uncut jewel
huntress were there because the destination was somewhere they could hunt?, i HONESTLY DONT KNOW why half the crew is there
dull ingot
han-d is a tough one to intigrate into 3d when everything ahs ranged attacks. Hes even got a model in the files
also mul-t takes his role as the tank with no dashes or i frames
deep rune
idk what bandit was like in ror1, but it felt weird getting back to back shotgun survivors added ngl
upbeat ruin
would love to see him, but yeah its a long shot
dull ingot
bandit played mostly the same! his rifle is more like his primary in 1. but it had no ammo.
upbeat ruin
feels like he wasnt massively popular anyway
dull ingot
Bandits gimmicks were lights outs reset, and that his primary fired as fast as you could hit the button
uncut jewel
WHY does a CARGO ship need a sniper, a mercenary, a COMMANDO, A HUNTRESS, i mean the loader makes sence, the CHEF makes sence, The Acrid makes somewhat sence
uncut jewel
feels like he wasnt massively popular anyway
ERHEM, Laughts in PINK GEM and speedrunning community
dull ingot
also. the cargo ship was carrying some of the most valuble cargo in the known galaxy
one of a kind priceless relics. Artifacts, technology
Of course it had security.
dull ingot
lots of shady shit was going on
upbeat ruin
its a big ol boat
deep rune
@uncut jewel in case it has to land
upbeat ruin
actually, do we know a canon size? I know some logs mention millions of items.
dull ingot
chef, hand, mult and rex are all robots that gained sentiance due to the wacky learning chip.
Bandit was there to steal shit. idk what the hell miners doing. hes just there. You find him in a rogue escape pod I think
commando, enforcer, sniper, merc and huntress(?) prolly are security. engineer is, ya know, the engineer
loaders job is pre obvious
also the contact light went vastly off course in the first place, we still dont know how a teleporter ended up on the ship
Its very possible there was more going on than just a cargo ship.
upbeat ruin
oh, I had totally forgot about the teleporter
deep rune
how do I go about completing this challenge>
deep rune
hmmm probably gotta do a no DoT no drone command run
dull ingot
yeah we dont know how the teleporter got there. providence crashed the ship because a teleporter meant people could get to the planet
upbeat ruin
its kinda forgiving, they dont deal a small amount.
dull ingot
it might be how the heratic got on the ship too.
but the blue light implies they used a blue portal instead
miners still the hardest one to explain
hes just there man. has rocks to hit. dirt to dig.
also remember the only survivor in 2 thats FROM the first game is acrid. Ive heard some people say that captain was around (and younger) during 1 but I havnt seen anything saying that myself so id take it with a grain of salt
lone mantle
how do I go about completing this challenge>
Beacons do a lot of dmg
uncut jewel
IN ROR 1 We had:
Commando-Military
enforcer-Hired to guard
merc-Hired to kill or defend
Sniper-Possibly kill or defend
Huntress-If CHEF runs out of meat
Bandit-made one fatal slip-got handcuffed
Acrid-was transport cargo
Chef-part of ship staff
HAND-E-part of ship staff
Miner-I have no clue why they are here and their ROR 1 ending seems to hint they are bloodthirsty
Loader- Part of ship staff
Engineer- Probably Part of Ship staff
lone mantle
Shld actually be really easy, just take the beacons that give u two a stage and use em on first stage boss
deep rune
is mithrix not moving on his final stage?
lone mantle
He walks slowly
dull ingot
I dont think miner was ON the ship is the thing
lone mantle
OHHH MITRHIX
dull ingot
it seems like he could have just been some rogue dude
uncut jewel
IN ROR 1 We had:
Commando-Military
enforcer-Hired to guard
merc-Hired to kill or...
and now in the second game ROR 2 which is basicly "REVENGE of the ror1 crew and friends"
lone mantle
Mb i thought it was anyyyy boss
uncut jewel
we have:
lone mantle
Shld still be pretty possible to kill mithrix with the beacon tho
dull ingot
he could be from the ship tho. His unlock is 'clear a path for the survivor' he could have easily been a stow aaway that was there literally to mine rocks lol
kinda like how bandit snuck onto the safe travels to loot the contact light crash in ror2
lone mantle
Yall ever watch Disneys Atlantis? U need someone to excavate
dull ingot
its just funny because everybody is so deadly and miners just some guy with a pick axe
and a dream
upbeat ruin
I cant even remember his kit tbh
dull ingot
he dashes forward doing bunch of damage and going invuln. he dashes backward from where hes faceing. doing damage. and going invuln
his r jumps him into the air and does damage under him, and his basic was unique because it had infinite piercing
but otherwise was just a melee attack
like I said he plays a lot like merc does in 2. dash into enemies, dash out, jump over them . all while attacking
how he played is you would like, group all the enemies into one ball and dash through them twice then jump over them and damage them all. since all his stuff had 'infinite' sprite piercing
upbeat ruin
huh, thats neat. surprised I didn't play him more.
dull ingot
he was the most mobile character in 1 actually.
upbeat ruin
I did mostly melee in 1
dull ingot
without items. since mercs dash could only go straight forward
uncut jewel
Commando-still pissed,
Huntress-genocide route
Bandit-Gold probably
MUL-T probably part of the ship crew honestly, but then also repurposed
Engineer-Tired of fixing, now they want blood
Artificer-wants to test out their powers to use their powers i guess, maybe was also pursuaded by the engineer,
Merc-Holding grudges
REX-Crash landed on the planet from some other ship or was spaced and landed here
NEW loader: Probably part of the ship staff
Acrid...... SOMEHOW left the planet, got captured by void beeings or something weird and got trapped back again?
Captain- Not part of ror1 but probably a friend of commando as they did actually let themselves convince to go to this planet with them
dull ingot
commando from 2 is a different commando. He was hired to work on the safe travels by captain. Huntress was there for the face mission of 'scavenging from the crash'. bandit snuck in the cargo hold specifically to loot the crash site
dull ingot
engineer is just an engineer. his log implies hes some kinda anti cybernetic revolutionary
artificer is part of some secritive tech hoarding house that believes heaven is a planet and use their technology to search for it
errant bramble
if you go to the new final stage you see dead commandos all over the ship.
dull ingot
we dont know how she got trapped in the bazaar. merc was part of some revolution on a planet called Europa, idk what his link to the crew is
uncut jewel
true true
dull ingot
rex is a malfcioning botany drone that escaped before it could be decativated
loade was also hired by captain
lone mantle
Rexs story is rlly cute
uncut jewel
makes sence
dull ingot
acrid got put in space jail by the void reavers and later escaped
uncut jewel
i like rex's
lone mantle
Acrids victory tagline is rlly sad :(
dull ingot
captain is old and familiar with ships and stuff, we dont know if hes ror1 commando but thats a fan theory
we dont know what happened to commando after he made his great escape in 1
upbeat ruin
he is the canon survivor? or do they all live in canon?
uncut jewel
i mean captain beeing the ror 1 commando would make a lot of sence for why they went here
dull ingot
captions log implies somebody hired him for some kind of secret mission
uncut jewel
all who is playable in ror 1 is technicly canon alive
dull ingot
and then captain gathers up a crew
dull ingot
the only survivor we know canonly escaped from 1 is (probably) commando
its not confirmed, but seeing as commando wrote all the logs in 1 that makes the most sense
uncut jewel
it does
dull ingot
there were other crash survivors, at rally point delta and such, but its not confirmed any of them were successfully resuced
uncut jewel
i mean commando wrote the log on providence
dull ingot
with all the crashed rescue ships and the logs implying that they were under constant attack
all of the survivors exist in canon, but none of the ones from 1 (besides acrid and maybe captain) are the same people as in ror2
uncut jewel
last time i checked one does not so easily write a log whilst fighting 2 dragons and a shadow demon and a dude who can teleport
dull ingot
commando is a 'job' not a person
hence why the survivors can have different abilities, and in the case of some like loader, a different sex
uncut jewel
atleast acrid is still good ol acrid
dull ingot
yeah acrids just. doing his thing
dull ingot
got put in time space jail
uncut jewel
maybe for the best?
dull ingot
and then the void reavers freak out when he breaks out anyways. something along the lines of 'they finally realized they imprisoned something they cant contain'
uncut jewel
whops...
dull ingot
according to acrids log
uncut jewel
i mean acrid's venom and poison are corrosive to metals
dull ingot
the void cells break you down into molecular form
uncut jewel
last time i checked the voidreavers are part metal no?
dull ingot
acrid got out while being stuck as various atoms xD
uncut jewel
HOW did they manage to fuck up!
dull ingot
acrids just that good at refusing to be stuck in space jail xD
dull ingot
uncut jewel
then got put back into spacejail inbetween time
dull ingot
uncut jewel
the void reaver is not native to the planet right?
dull ingot
correct
well, nothings native, but the imps and reavers are specifically not brought to it by providence
cunning sentinel
so I think I finally have all of the environment logs - but I've still got one that's blanked out and ???'d
dull ingot
yeah its a bug
uncut jewel
happens
dull ingot
its the dev test realm, somebody hacked their way into it. they didnt intend it to show up xD
dull ingot
uncut jewel
aye aye captn
dull ingot
heres captains btw. Like I said, even the safe travels has some motive besides what we are told. But it seems like only captain knows it
and bandit knows theres a secret mission. but he cares about stealing cool things from boxes
tawny cypress
bruh wtf every time I open ror2 it keeps making me redownload the game
uncut jewel
oh wait.... captain in ror2 was an captain in ror 1 too
A captain, NOT THE captain of UES Contact Light
that one is PROBABLY very dead
dull ingot
the captain of contact light gets gutted by the heratic
uncut jewel
wait they do?
dull ingot
heratics log specifically says she cut whoever was the captain of the contact light into several pieces xD
so its possible captain was commando from 1. its not confirmed, but its implied hes old enough and is knowledgable enough he could be
uncut jewel
in not like 50 we know that, because acrid is still alive
dull ingot
heres bandits btw, hes legit just there to steal chests . also acrid was stuck in time space jail
uncut jewel
wait is that the same bandit?!
dull ingot
I assume not
dull ingot
I mean, I guess it could be, but theres nothing to imply it is. besides he knows about the contact light. but several survivors seem to arleady know about it
uncut jewel
the bandit we know wants to get as far away as possible
dull ingot
seems like the contact light is like a legend. a ghost ship full of lost treasure
uncut jewel
i mean it is
canonicly
not after we raid it in ror1 though but thats noncanon
no commando actually goes around with 56 teddybears ductaped to them
dull ingot
I mean its cannon he had some number of crit glasses
Like I said, it sounds bad ass until you realize its just commando with like 10 pairs of glasses
dull ingot
commando cowboy steps into providences room wearing 11 pairs of glasses
and proceeds to murder agod
dull ingot
yeah 100% crit wasnt actually possible in 1 I think
you could get really close tho. but I might be missremembering
uncut jewel
ii think so too, it was always under
dull ingot
but yeah, we know for a FACT commando had 11 pairs of crit glasses xD
uncut jewel
true
dull ingot
and a desire to LEAVE
remember providence dies just beacuse he wont let commando go home lmao
commandos just some dude who had nothing to do with whatever was happening
dull ingot
yeah dude bandit feels really good
toxic wadi
revolver chains are the best
dull ingot
they gave him a lot more solid identity in 2 than in 1
dull ingot
even though his general gimmick was the same. It translates into 3d better. and the included shtick of weaving behind people works very well
uncut jewel
revolver chains are the best
absolutely
dull ingot
also im pre sure the lights out unlock was in 1 too
uncut jewel
remember providence dies just beacuse he wont let commando go home lmao
"oh they may have keep on living"
dull ingot
I remember there being something in 1 you unlocked by lights outting a boss lol
uncut jewel
but they made one fatal slip
toxic wadi
very happy to say that i got the sadist unlock by shanking aurelionite in the butt 20 times
uncut jewel
when the commando there among them had two big semiautomatics on their hip
two semiautomatics on their hiiiiiippppp
dull ingot
like I said, providence was undone by some random dude with some 9 mils
uncut jewel
11 glasses
dull ingot
commando from 1 is apparently better at dodging also
uncut jewel
true
toxic wadi
i said "May God forgive you... Because I won't" and went yeehaw on his stupid golden forehead
dull ingot
because his dodge roll actually gives invuln frames lmfao
I unlocked it on alloy worship unit
toxic wadi
with the dagger and 10 backup mags
merry karma
and you can kite and knock back
toxic wadi
i got 10, hit him 10 times, reset with lights out on a lemurian, and hit him 10 more
uncut jewel
10 alien heads
uncut jewel
i find it funny that Captain in ROR 2 actually uses PLATE ARMOUR
dull ingot
he also has a cool microbot
uncut jewel
absolutely
toxic wadi
bandit has the big iron on his hip
uncut jewel
dude captain is just broke
dull ingot
damn it thats true
uncut jewel
bandit is broke
toxic wadi
i just noticed like an hour ago that he actually spins the revolver when he takes it out
uncut jewel
everyone is broke, but artificer needs more love
dull ingot
yeah he does a sick flourish
see thats why if you dont kill them it goes on cd
bandit gets sad because his sick trick failed. bruises his ego !
uncut jewel
mhm
toxic wadi
bandit feels ashamed and has to take a moment
dull ingot
you cant just SHOOT THEM with the revolver. thats not cool
to be fair, bandit specifically wears his coat outside of his environment suit just because, so he might actually carea bout that
toxic wadi
bandit's whole gameplay is very satisfying, getting crits for positioning is a fantastic idea.
even if very powerful. i can melt a stone golem, finish it with lights out, and sneak away scott free
iron laurel
Huntress butt or Loader butt?
huntess has the hourglass figure, while loader is strong and firm. I'd pick huntress though I see the appeal of both asses
uncut jewel
honestly.... we all know Merc and Captain have the best butts
dull ingot
Thieves arent anything without their sick coat. that he stole
what matters is its his now
uncut jewel
but if youre really a butt enthusiast you will enjoy Acrid and MULT's DUMPTRUNCK
dull ingot
also you clowns are forgetting engineering perfection
toxic wadi
Even realer talk.
The sound and visual design of the revolver is all very satisfying.
uncut jewel
mhm
toxic wadi
The roll of the cylinder and the click of the hammer, right before you pop them.
uncut jewel
fair
uncut jewel
i mean just get a few willos in there
toxic wadi
I just go crazy with Lights Out and shank
uncut jewel
we all know willo is broke af right?
dull ingot
I mean, at least on higher difficulies I weave his shotty into his gameplay, you stun some dudes on the way in, stun them from behind, dagger then UNLOAD A SHOTGUN INTO THEIR EXPOSED BACK
then idk man, lights out some wisps
treat yourself.
toxic wadi
My game plan looks like
Get behind the enemy
RANDOM BULLSHIT, GO!
steady tangle
two clovers and one charged perforator? time to go see mithrix
dull ingot
ive been running the thrown dagger tho
toxic wadi
I prefer the melee dagger. It has a pretty wide area.
dull ingot
idk if I like it more or less. I like not having to get right up on people but its got a really weird arch
toxic wadi
You can run behind them, brush their side and use the dagger.
It procs the hemorrhage.
dull ingot
I havnt tried desperado yet, but I feel like the cd reset on lights out is just better
I unlockedit and moved on, had more shit to unlock
uncut jewel
anyways its 01.17 o clock
toxic wadi
I like combining the smokebomb, shank and Lights Out to deal a TON of damage all at once, and then slink away like nothing happened
uncut jewel
good nightio!
dull ingot
gnight
uncut jewel
oh btw
dull ingot
and yeah, I think the dagger fits his gameplay way better than dynamite pack from 1
dynamite pack didnt really synergize with anything. just kinda existed
toxic wadi
The dagger is cooler tbh
uncut jewel
bandit can gain infinite vertical mommentum if you have 8 alien heads
gritty bluff
recommended kit on bandit?
toxic wadi
Bandit can do that by default with Lights Out
dull ingot
his stock kit is very strong
toxic wadi
Or hardlight lol
dull ingot
if you want the most consistently id justrun his starting stuff.
toxic wadi
Hardlight afterburner bandit is ridiculous
uncut jewel
his stock is probably best imo
gritty bluff
whats his alt m2
toxic wadi
Rifle.
uncut jewel
it sucks
dull ingot
his alternate R is fun, but probably less consistent overall, his alt m2 does less damage but you can throw the dagger
toxic wadi
Shotgun is better.
gritty bluff
hm
toxic wadi
If you want to be ranged.
dull ingot
his alt m1 is a rifle for 330 that has longer range, but if you miss like, even one shot its worse than shotty
toxic wadi
Just use your revolver.
gritty bluff
wait, isnt afterburner broken with new cap?
toxic wadi
His alt M2 is revolver but worse IMO
dusky cairn
wait, isnt afterburner broken with new cap?
you still have to wait for 3 cooldowns
gritty bluff
its still 3 nukes
uncut jewel
we dont need more particles in this game.... wish i could turn OFF gold particles
dull ingot
and yeah lights out works really well for picking off stuff from farther away.
toxic wadi
It'd be more broke with just a bandolier
dusky cairn
yeah but dont they take 20 seconds to arrive as well
gritty bluff
does the new m2 damage you too?
dull ingot
captains new ability?
dusky cairn
ye
dull ingot
its all characters. so yes. it will kill you.
toxic wadi
Lights Out synergizes really well with bands
toxic wadi
As does literally anything that procs them lmao
dull ingot
I feel like desperado could be fun for lower difficulties tho
toxic wadi
I just wish when you killed something with the bands that your Lights Out spawns, it'd count and give you the skill CD reset
That's my ONLY gripe.
uncut jewel
0.1% have this achievement
dull ingot
yeah I was having to avoid bands with mithrix for that unlock bc of lights out band proc not counting as lights out killing them
uncut jewel
ITS BANDIT SADIST COME ON
dull ingot
0.1% of people have most the new achievements
toxic wadi
yea
uncut jewel
scream
dull ingot
I just got them all and all 6 I can see on my steam history are 0.1% lol
bandits mastery skin is sweet btw
dull ingot
just checked the chieves, and yeah literally every new ons is at 0.1% still
and mercenaries you unlock by coughing on stage 1 so
its funny how easy it is when etheral is so hard
Not that im complaining. Etheral is obnoxious
prisma rivet
Okay, I've gone to the Void Fields for the second time and the Environment Logbook isn't there. Can it just not spawn sometimes?
patent tulip
dull ingot
the drones improved pathfinding is working well I see
swoops in to block that lights out
hasty mason
what the best way to get the 2 ability for bandits shiv
analog ice
Okay, I've gone to the Void Fields for the second time and the Environment Logbo...
it despawns after five minutes, so if you're waiting to do all the cells first, then that might be your problem
dull ingot
backup mags / purity/ syringes. On aurelionite or alloy worship unit
toxic wadi
i got mine on gold boy
10 mags. shank him, reset with lights out, shank him again
very satisfying bandit gameplay
and proof of concept that you can, indeed, fly using bandit's default kit
dark pagoda
Updaye
grave inlet
does soldiers sarynge even affect the reload speed of bandit?
i cant really see the difference
toxic wadi
It affects the time between pulling out the revolver and shooting it on Lights Out too
dull ingot
yeah it effects like, most of his kit
dull ingot
it just doesnt effect his raw attack on his primary. those fire as fast as you can click (basically_
but it effecting your reload speed actually is super noticable later
in my opinion at least. It makes a big difference
full lance
lucid birch
RoR2 gives me some eye problems
I've tried many games before but RoR2 makes my eyes red way faster than most
onyx pier
da feet
dull rampart
PFFFT
rotund kraken
||I feel like Megumin with Captains new Utility ||
severe beacon
why does this game make me think im blind or is the tv just too far away
shrewd jacinth
Sssssoooo, it's kinda boring to get the new achievements
Too strict, it's like if they took Rex's "knock a clay dunestrider into a pit" and Commando's "do 20 stages lol" and fused them
tepid wolf
Most are fine really
Bandit and captain are just a normal Mithrix run for example
Merc's you get naturally and mul-t is easy on a god run
summer terrace
loaders is really cool
shrewd jacinth
Merc's is fine
The rest are just...why do we gotta be so specific? Such long runs
I hate playing Solo because it feels so slow, and doing it in multiplayer is uh...well...
feral pewter
merc's new one you can literally just mash buttons on stage 1
somber trellis
Can someone explain this almost 40 quadrillion damage
long runs
somber trellis
NOW TAKE BLEEDS
somber trellis
idk
next bramble
Is there a new hidden realm
somber trellis
no
somber trellis
I think the profile info might be bugged
on late stages you have a lot of elite bosses
maybe this is the case?
also late stages mitrix works too i think
stark tinsel
late stage mithrix made me uninstall this game
radiant sparrow
profile info's definitely bugged, it thinks I've won games with 12/12 survivors but picked 11/12
and also it doesn't understand that I've found every item/equipment
stark tinsel
i came back to try bandit, he was great, then i hit mithrix and remembered why i don't play this game any more.
somber trellis
profile info's definitely bugged, it thinks I've won games with 12/12 survivors ...
maybe that's because of heretic?
radiant sparrow
nvm the wording is "survivors played" so it's definitely bugged
somber trellis
late stage mithrix made me uninstall this game
i tried 20 stages comando mitrix
it was half an hour fight, comando sucks
somber trellis
nvm the wording is "survivors played" so it's definitely bugged
i have heretic log, it says i have x time played, but 0 pick times and 0% pickrate
tepid wolf
Ah yes "commando sucks" because you picked a stage 20 Mithrix
Commando kinda sucked before this uodate because of his other aspects in the early game
somber trellis
Ah yes "commando sucks" because you picked a stage 20 Mithrix
i want to unlock alt m2 but can't survive more than 9 stages on moonson
tepid wolf
It's cheesy, but then tone it down to rainstorm
somber trellis
but i want to unlock alt m2, and then skin on obelisk
tepid wolf
It's your choice to do it on monsoon. At least the default m2 is pretty solid now
somber trellis
It's cheesy, but then tone it down to rainstorm
that means that overloading worm will spawn even later, thats bad
tepid wolf
Suppressive fire is still made obsolete by nades though
bright palm
somber trellis
i miss that "3x" damage if it exploded close enough
but 700%
that's quite a damage
tepid wolf
In general the commando buffs are really nice
radiant sparrow
for people who only use his alts (me) it's mostly just a buff to his M1
somber trellis
i don't "like" loader, i just tried to speedrun, even if i'm not so good in that game
glass spawnkill moment
somber trellis
for people who only use his alts (me) it's mostly just a buff to his M1
i don't have alt m2, thats why
leaden chasm
@ me when they make the heretic an unlockable character
tepid wolf
Heretic is too strong to be one
Also it would be weird to have each character be able to transform into it afterwards
somber trellis
yeah
barren jewel
best red item for bandit?
rotund rune
Isn’t heretic bad early on
floral forge
Heretic is too strong to be one
heretic could be a normal character if they made his health act like a normal survivor
rotund rune
Since you wouldn’t have much health regen
floral forge
Isn’t heretic bad early on
yes but he becomes a god with one rejuv rack
because of how stride works
vapid matrix
i got to celestial portal in 17 min and finally got loader ability
barren jewel
or trancsendence
floral forge
oh yeah he'd be so fucking beefy with a transcendance
rotund rune
10 transcendences
barren jewel
i did a run like that and mithrix was ez as hell
vital quail
You guys prefer Lights Out or Desperado?
rotund rune
oh yeah he'd be so fucking beefy with a transcendance
Isn’t the heretic a girl?
barren jewel
Isn’t the heretic a girl?
no its a bird
floral forge
might be, I havent checked heretic logs yet
tepid wolf
The heretic is a she
rotund rune
She got turned into a bird or something like that
tepid wolf
Nope
She vas a alloy vukture from the planet
She tried to escape the planet by hijacking the contact light
But Providence stopped her
rotund rune
I always thought she looked very similar to alloy vultures and she also has the wind blade
tepid wolf
Since providence doesn't allow the creatures to leave
rotund rune
I wonder who killed her
tepid wolf
Providence
floral forge
providence
rotund rune
It seems more like the animals are prisoners
What’s the point if he’s just gonna kill them
tepid wolf
He wants to keep them safe in his own weird way
He killed the heretic because she tried to escape
rotund rune
Ah yes the best way to keep someone safe by killing them so they can never be hurt again
floral forge
Ah yes the best way to keep someone safe by killing them so they can never be hu...
statistically, yes
you cant die if you're dead
tepid wolf
Yeah. Keeping them on the planet is the safest option
floral forge
Yeah. Keeping them on the planet is the safest option
I mean, with the survivors running around, is it really?
rotund rune
That’s just killing them with extra steps
rotund rune
Providence really is stupid
tepid wolf
No he is not. He's a literal demigod
rotund rune
He’s like a baby with a gun
rotund rune
“Do not worry I have vanquished the enemies oh but also some of them are in the planet and they want to kill us all”
tepid wolf
I mean in ROR2 providence is kinda dead
rotund rune
Kinda?
rotund rune
Is his leg just floating around space
tepid wolf
He attacked the contact light because it contained the teleporter technology
rotund rune
Final boss in expansion will be providences leg
rotund rune
He attacked the contact light because it contained the teleporter technology
Why not just take the teleporter
Or maybe just kill them all with out crashing the ship
tepid wolf
Nkt that easy to just take back a massive teleporter
tepid wolf
The ship crashing is inevitable
If you plan to kill the crew there is a very large chance of it
rotund rune
Also what happened to the animals that he spawned onto the ship did they die?
tepid wolf
They could have been beamed back we don't know
But yeah I wouldn't call providence outright evil
rotund rune
I don’t think providence gets how protecting works
rotund rune
But yeah I wouldn't call providence outright evil
I don’t think he’s evil I just think he lacks in the smarts department
tepid wolf
He's in a grey area of having good intentions with a twisted way to it
He has the smarts, not the right ideals though
rotund rune
Providence is the type of person to save hostages from terrorists by exploding the whole building
tepid wolf
Not really. More like keeping you locked at home so nothing can happen to you
rotund rune
Or if he told someone to stay there and hide and the hiding spot destroyed so the person would have to leave he would personally track down and kill them for not hiding
tepid wolf
So yeah he saved dying species, but then kept them essentially locked
rotund rune
Save a person from the apocalypse by locking them in a room and kill them if they leave
rotund rune
Before I didn’t even know vultures were smart
tepid wolf
Like a beetle won't be uoset eith being cinfined to the planet
The vulture log states vultures using guns against marines
rotund rune
Why don’t some vultures have reds since the alloy worship unit has some
tepid wolf
It's not the worshio unit itself
There really isn't lore to that I think
Just a game thing in this case
rotund rune
I also wanna see the vultures with ak47s shooting us
tepid wolf
Well the vultures did not make guns or anything, but stole the guns and used them
rotund rune
What if attacks destroyed the levels
tepid wolf
Providence's approach does work on low intelligence species. Oce they are smarrer though it falls apart
crimson garden
The Imp family, Lem family, and Vultures do all end up being intelligent.
craggy marsh
probably the clay men as well
crimson garden
Vultures being smart enough to rebuild a unit to protect their eggs, Imps know how to use items and such (referring to Artifact of Origin), and Lemdogs having a sort of social structure and building knowledge.
craggy marsh
I rarely talk in chats much but I gotta say, after I read the aurelionite entry/saw heretic had special dialog/saw how much other items were made useful, I thought to myself "it would be so badass if gold lad showed up and bonked mithi during the last phase but that would be too hard to work in
welp haha
*above in regards to commencement specifically
copper bear
can i just say bandit is broken
gaunt ledge
so turns out with the eccentric vase you can just skip the entirety of new commencement
hollow plinth
ok, i found a hidden tech. if on mul-t you take buzzsaw primary minigun secondary, and you take powermode, your minigun in powermode will have basically 0 spread
winter pecan
How much damage is Hemorrhage out of curiousity?
digital talon
iirc, 2000% over 15 seconds
craggy notch
anyone have tips on how to beat mithrix as bandit?
winter pecan
@digital talon ty
radiant sparrow
anyone have tips on how to beat mithrix as bandit?
mobility items are great
silver plover
anyone have tips on how to beat mithrix as bandit?
smoke bomb is a good tool for quickly getting behind him for some crits and/or a hemorrhage
won't get you much in one go, but doing that enough stacks up over time
craggy notch
also is it just me or does the rifle blast seem worse overall vs the shotgun
radiant sparrow
yes
same proc coefficient as single shotgun pellet
not much more accurate if you're spamming it
so basically 0.5 proc per shot vs. 2.5 proc per shot
silver plover
wait, seriously? rifle has 0.5??
silver plover
that's what I assumed it was
radiant sparrow
it needs, like, more shots per clip or near-pinpoint accuracy (as well as 1.0 proc coefficient)
then it'd be on-par with shotgun
tight flame
on the .fandom wiki? that wiki doesn't show the rifle coefficient
the cooldown is 0.5, but the rifle's coefficient isn't listed yet
it's almost certainly higher than the shotgun's pellets
severe chasm
I'll test it tomorrow
leaden chasm
when I used the rifle it felt kinda underwhelming should def be more accurate at least
tight flame
i agree that the rifle should be more accurate, but otherwise it felt alright. given that it has less damage per shot than the shotgun it should have a minimum coefficient of 2
but it might just be 1
radiant sparrow
the _cooldown_ is 0.5, but the rifle's coefficient isn't listed yet
oh you're right I misread that, well hopefully it's 1.0 then
silver plover
2? that'd be, uh... busted good
radiant sparrow
nothing in the game has a higher coefficient than 1
tight flame
i mean, the shotgun has a coefficient of 2.5 if you add up all the pellets
... y'know that's probably not how the math works
silver plover
I don't think the math quite works out that way
radiant sparrow
no it does
well as far as the probability of proccing the effects goes, that's how it adds up
silver plover
not really, because each pellet is a separate roll for each chance item
radiant sparrow
the actual effect is weaker depending on proc coefficient usually
tight flame
let me rephrase then: the rifle should be at least only a little less likely to proc something than a full shotgun blast
since you can only proc one thing at a time and it's one shot with less overall damage
radiant sparrow
each proc hit has an expected value and you can just add the expected value of separate rolls for the total expected value
if they made it more pellets per clip, like 6 or 8, that might help
tight flame
i really like all of the new alt skills they added
well except captain's who i haven't gotten yet but it sounds ridiculous and fun
loader's in particular fucking rules
the tesla is perfectly fine and strong at what it does, but man thunderslam is just too cool not to use
my only sadness with the update is that i was hoping acrid would get a little more love
ah well
radiant sparrow
yeah i just tested it proc coefficient on rifle seems to be 1.0
12 total bleed ticks
worldly perch
finally started playing again and i forgot how awful phase 3 of the final boss is
it uses the classic "just throw tons of enemies and near-instakill screenwide attacks" method of difficulty
merry grove
Does Clay Dunestrider spawn with Dissonance yet or is it still not included in the pool?
open ore
how do i do that
blazing lagoon
it uses the classic "just throw tons of enemies and near-instakill screenwide at...
by saying awful do you mean in terms of difficulty or design
i'd say it's fair enough
worldly perch
difficulty mostly, though i may be a bit biased by a recent death
i may see the good in the phase if i get good
unkempt marsh
I love mercenary's new utility tbh
blazing lagoon
i only beat him a couple of times, i guess i need to stop obliterating
unkempt marsh
I like the damage and the effect
worldly perch
absolutely enamored with the new final level design
blazing lagoon
absolutely enamored with the new final level design
probably one of the best in roguelikes
worldly perch
the exit from the spawn point is breathtaking and the new boss leadup ties all the game's mechanics together
new enemies can be a bit annoying while trying to stay in the new mechanic's radius
leaden chasm
the final level looks amazing, devs did great on it
urban falcon
^
Wish the pillars were a little easier to understand, but they’re decent
rotund rune
Does Clay Dunestrider spawn with Dissonance yet or is it still not included in t...
What’s that
urban falcon
Artifact
silver plover
the model of the polyp itself is the same, the item model is all that's changed
rotund rune
The item icon should still be changed to a pog face
toxic wadi
pog
cobalt beacon
what is that damage lol
urban falcon
Oh yeah that happened to me once in modded, though probably unrelated
Fairly sure its a bug that somehow subtracts your damage from the integer limit
somber trellis
oh shoot
urban falcon
Mine was on a random engi run lol
I dont play engi much so my stats are all off now :P
cobalt beacon
I play a fair bit of huntress but I've dealt damage as other characters
and now my graph is just
Xbox red ring of death
urban falcon
Along with your damage dealt to
My damage yeeted a mini mushrum
sharp swift
where in the logbook is that
tulip nimbus
where in the logbook is that
Oh sorry I never finished answering your qustion. Its the tabs at the top where it has like "items, achievements, survivors" etc. Its to the right
bright palm
I tried desperado out for a bit and its interesting
tulip nimbus
But lights out is so good tho
bright palm
I can't get behind it really because it just slows him down too much
bright palm
anyways, I stacked it 183 times in gilded coast
bright palm
nope!
leaden chasm
wow
bright palm
I started oneshotting elite golems though
so its definitely strong
though, I did kill aurelionite as soon as he reached half with it
tulip nimbus
I feel like if they lowered the cooldown by even just 2-3 seconds a lot more people would get behind it
bright palm
did like 33k preloop so its not like it does bad damage but you really gotta get the stacks up
that's ignoring what an ATG proc does when you land a hit with it
tulip nimbus
Does it reset cooldown if executed? It doesn't right
bright palm
nope, no cooldown reset
tulip nimbus
Yea I didnt think so thats like light out's whole gimmick
bright palm
I feel like a lower cooldown would be a good buff for it
or if the stacks buffed your skill damage overall
sharp swift
Oh sorry I never finished answering your qustion. Its the tabs at the top where ...
maybe it hasnt updated on the switch yet, doesnt show it
bright palm
or two
bright palm
Desperado has like
one thing over lights out besides the damage
after getting even one stack, its a bit better on mithrix I guess because you're not gonna lights out Mithrix until pretty late into the fight so you can just desperado him for higher damage
however
you now have to shoot wisps instead of using your lights out skill to clean them up quickly
tulip nimbus
Yea desperado defienntly sounds like something some people would want over lights out
I think lights out has the higher skill cap tho
bright palm
yea
like I can shoot a beetle once, lights out, then shoot another beetle, repeat
lights out lets you clean up enemies much quicker
tulip nimbus
But desperado better single target
bright palm
true
as soon as you kill one thing with desperado, it starts doing better damage
but cleaning up enemies isn't nearly as quick anymore
it is fun oneshotting golems from range though
unfortunately
if you lights out like a pot, you'll get a cooldown reset
but doing that with desperado does not give you a stack
bright palm
yep!
at least I'm pretty sure it worked when I tried it out
I know I shot a vagrant orb and got a skill reset and it didn't work with desperado
lights out definitely works on more things than desperado does
but hey, if you get some good desperado stacks, you can kill bosses at half health instantly
I think I definitely prefer lights out over desperado, but they both have their pros and cons
I think both fail to get their rewards if you kill something with bands
severe chasm
You can light out pots?
Can confirm it counts
tulip nimbus
And not on des?
bright palm
nope!
bright palm
I did a des run and it just would not count pots or vagrant orbs
lights out doesn't care what you shoot with it so long as it counts as a body and has health (pots have 1 health) but des cares if it counts as an enemy
and pots do not count
toxic wadi
I think both fail to get their rewards if you kill something with bands
they do
it sucks ;w;
bright palm
I figured
toxic wadi
it should be changed tbh
bands rob you of your kills far too much for it to be like this
bright palm
I didn't get bands on my des run so I wasn't 100% sure, but I knew lights out kept failing when an ice band explosion finished an enemy off rather than just the lights out damage
I'm guessing the game applies lights out (and any damage that triggers bands) first then the band damage
since if I lights out an enemy while carrying runalds, if it's low enough, I'll get the kill recent but if the ice explosion does the job, I don't get the reset
funny thing
Behemoth DOESN'T rob lights out kills
its straight up just a damage up
I assume it's the same case with Des
behemoth continues to be one of the best reds in the game
toxic wadi
because behemoth isnt an extra instance of damage
its a straight upgrade to the base damage
not two hits dealing more damage, but one hit dealing more damage
bright palm
exactly, yea
bright palm
its really fun since lights out already has a visual effect that looks like an AOE but behemoth actually make it an AOE
severe chasm
not two hits dealing more damage, but one hit dealing more damage
It actually counts as 2 hits
bright palm
yea, its not really misleading but behemoth makes it look like you're popping enemies to kill other enemies
severe chasm
Which is why merc applies 2 stacks of expose
Whe he hits an enemy with an expose applying skill with behemoth
bright palm
weird? it doesn't work that way with lights out
toxic wadi
then it must have a special flag that makes it so it triggering from Lights Out still gives your skill reset?
severe chasm
weird? it doesn't work that way with lights out
Spaghetti code probably. I can test it tomorrow
mossy leaf
it does, its just that its two hits from the same attack as opposed to one hit and a proc
tulip nimbus
Yea I got my Diablo with behemoth on cap
severe chasm
oh no
toxic wadi
oh no
tulip nimbus
oh yes
toxic wadi
imagine if stacking behemoth gave more damage
tulip nimbus
I cannot
toxic wadi
undeniably best red
bright palm
too bad hitting anything with Diablo is impossible
toxic wadi
except beetle queen lmao
mossy leaf
just stand dead center and pull everything in to you
toxic wadi
yeah
robust gull
Can you spam diablo with brainstalks or afterburner?
toxic wadi
probably
bright palm
beetle queen doesn't move much but she can actually walk out of the radius before it lands its so slow
severe chasm
FMP+Bandolier might just be a win con on captain
severe chasm
Can you spam diablo with brainstalks or afterburner?
Yes. Tested that on stream today
bright palm
its a hilarious skill that's only good to hit anything that's slow enough
robust gull
Well I know what I’m doing when i wake up tomorrow
severe chasm
as bandit, beetle queen is such a free kill, no matter my kit
Stage 1 bandit is incredibly broken. Guaranteed crit on anything when behind is absurd
toxic wadi
yeah
bright palm
elite beetle queen is scarier now that she spawns guards
severe chasm
Even equipment crits
toxic wadi
bandit is crazy
and chaining revolvers on enemies means its not easy to get overwhelmed
bright palm
Even equipment crits
oh, its more than equipment
toxic wadi
you just. kill all of them.
bright palm
I watched an ATG rocket fly behind a lemurian and hit it in the back
toxic wadi
i think the damage should be upped slightly on Lights Out though, there are times when, for no apparent reason, the same enemy, on the same stage, at the same level, on the same difficulty
is left with 1 HP instead of dying OHKO to lights out
severe chasm
So it's not based on bandits position but the damage position? That contradicts what I saw last night where sawmerang crit while also coming back
toxic wadi
beetles and lemurians, mostly
robust gull
I got all of Bandit’s skills and his Monsoon skin in two days because of how fun they are
severe chasm
beetles and lemurians, mostly
Haven't seen that. Will have to do some testing tomorrow
toxic wadi
yeah, i've been playing with bandit a lot. i've seen it happen at least like 100 times
i mostly play on rainstorm, dunno if that effects it somehow
severe chasm
Hopefully nothing is wrong. We confirmed today that hemorrhage is in fact 2000%
bright palm
I've shot golems from the side and watched the shots that hit in the back deal crits while the ones that hit not on the back deal normal damage
toxic wadi
i forget exactly what the difficulty does
bright palm
its weird
severe chasm
its weird
Huh. Will have to mess with it more
What is interesting to me is bandit+ruin
Ruin is the most interesting thing in the game to me atm
toxic wadi
bandit and ruin is BUSTED
robust gull
I think difficultly adjusts your max health, enemy’s max health, and difficulty scaling
bright palm
which one is ruin?
toxic wadi
the shotgun is actually so good, for procs
severe chasm
which one is ruin?
Special replacement
mossy leaf
which one is ruin?
one of the lunar shiz
safe hare
How does slayer work? Is it linear, or does it just deal 3x damage against low-health enemies?
robust gull
Omg the procs on the bandit are crazy
toxic wadi
i think its 3x damage to enemies under 25% health
tulip nimbus
Is bandit ruin better than mando ruin?
bright palm
okay, I didn't check the skill names for the heresy items
severe chasm
How does slayer work? Is it linear, or does it just deal 3x damage against low-h...
If it's the same as acrid bite it would be 3x damage from base
toxic wadi
not sure if base or total damage
safe hare
could have sworn mid-health enemies took more damage than full health
bright palm
If it's the same as acrid bite it would be 3x damage from base
so 1800% on lights out?
severe chasm
Should be yeah.
toxic wadi
don;t forget your crit from behind
severe chasm
Will have to crunch more numbers to make absolutely sure what type of damage
bright palm
I kind of wish there was a way to check what each thing did
like slayer, stunned, all that stuff
toxic wadi
on an ability with 4 second cooldown
mellow mango
If slayer still works like bite did in 1.0 then it scales bonus damage with missing health
bright palm
that resets itself on kill
toxic wadi
you can. go to the middle page on the character and hover over their skills there
it tells you what they do
mellow mango
So 2% bonus damage per 1% health missing
bright palm
ah, I'm a clown
severe chasm
So 2% bonus damage per 1% health missing
Trust Groove over me when it comes to that kind of stuff
My memory is bad
severe chasm
Dang 
toxic wadi
that went from a yeehaw to a yeenaw
mellow mango
I am very tired too so idk lol
severe chasm
Cant sleep because of the Redbeardy McGee thing. Incredibly scared and excited
toxic wadi
i wish more people weren't difficulty junkies on this game. i see everybody playing on monsoon, eclipse, diluvian, i just wanna relax with some rainstorm man
severe chasm
i wish more people weren't difficulty junkies on this game. i see everybody play...
I'm a big advocate for play what makes you happy
This is a video game. It's supposed to be fun
toxic wadi
dying to a lesser wisp 30 seconds after i get out of the pod isn't what makes me happy