gd2-nullified

[river hollow]

same

[wicked swallow]

[dull ingot]

lemurian vs mithrix

[wicked swallow]

ive died to LEMURIANS THE MOST

[woeful current]

so how do you get loader's new ability?

[wicked swallow]

also wait MITHRIX IS THERE TWICE

[wicked condor]

trying out commando changes atm, immediate thoughts:

double tap having reduced bloom growth isn't a perfect fix but I'll take it, 100% damage is good
round doesn't seem to have received any other buffs besides chaining bonus damage so meh
roll feels kinda nice

[wicked swallow]

1v1 3 loaders in ambry with the vengeance artifact

[river hollow]

oh nice commando nerfs buffs

[wicked swallow]

they buffed the m1 its more bullets in total i think

[buoyant lynx]

Not even a nerf, the M1 was decently buffed

[mellow dagger]

omg i LOVE the solus boss item - the names and everything - the bandit is soo good and the alternate skin throws me back so good

and if the gif in the dev thoughts is what i think it is im gonna faint

[wicked swallow]

What's the fucking point of this stat wheel?

It's always gonna be Engie unless you never play engie.

[river hollow]

oops i meant buffs

[idle wasp]

Lmao

[buoyant lynx]

Phase Round was buffed but the situational damage increase on the pierce is kind of pointless, and roll is still roll.

[wicked swallow]

same for minion kills

[wicked swallow]

Wait, what???

[latent karma]

heretic + frost relic good

[vivid ibex]

Im as confused as you

[wicked swallow]

What does heretic have going for it other than the heresy loadout?

[wise elbow]

negative health regen and a cool model

[vivid ibex]

minion acrid

[wicked condor]

oh no I think they changed frag grenade physics too

[wise elbow]

but i think heretic also gets 2 jumps for free

[wicked swallow]

That's it?

[wise elbow]

no idea if there's anything else

[wicked swallow]

I get the negative health regen, it IS lunar.

But whats...... whats the upside????

[wise elbow]

i'd imagine becoming the heretic as more of a punishment for, like, overdosing on lunars

[river hollow]

i THINK they heal during strides of heresy

[wise elbow]

you look cool

[river hollow]

but it might've just been medkit

[wise elbow]

well u heal during strides in general

[river hollow]

oh...

[wicked swallow]

Thats always how strides works

[wise elbow]

not restricted to heretic

[wicked condor]

you get really high health

[river hollow]

i knew that\\

[wicked condor]

I remember having like ~800 or so at level 3ish

[wise elbow]

oh wait yeah i might have missed that but i had like 1,5k health on stage 4

[wicked swallow]

so 4 seperate heresy items is punishment worthy but 500 gestures isnt? okay, newt

[wise elbow]

[errant crane]

so when you become the Heretic, is it unlocked as a playable character? or is it treated more like a transformation?

[river hollow]

transformation

[blazing lagoon]

3 new boss items? one of them is pearl i guess

[wicked swallow]

transformation

[blazing lagoon]

solus, grandparent, overloading worm?

[wicked swallow]

One of them is for Solus Probe, one is for OL worm, and one is probably for Grandparent.

[latent karma]

that one is empathy cores

[errant crane]

but there's one more?????

[river hollow]

planula is grandparent (?)

[latent karma]

grandparent spawns in sky meadow as a non boss

[wise elbow]

but to be fair if i must have negative hp regen for having essence of heresy then so be it the item is fucking CRACKED

[latent karma]

even on first loop

[errant crane]

oh Irradiant pearl is a boss item I think @blazing lagoon

[wicked swallow]

All bosses spawn as non bosses by then too

[idle wasp]

There are two pearls ye

[blazing lagoon]

yep i know

[wise elbow]

it seems theres only 1 pearl on the screenshot

[wicked swallow]

Theres like ALWAYS a solus probe there usually

[blazing lagoon]

curious to see overloading worm item

[wise elbow]

the other one is more like an egg

[wicked swallow]

"Charged Perforator". Dunno what it is.

[neon haven]

did they secretly release multiple characters? The Logbook is confusing me with those mystery photos

[wicked swallow]

Theres a transformation.

They added a full heresy set for every skill.

[errant crane]

I think the Pearl is a lunar item and the Irradiant Pearl is a boss item

[wicked swallow]

Get them all, and youre now a heretic.

[wicked swallow]

Pearls are not lunar.

[neon haven]

bruh

[wicked swallow]

Irradiant Pearl is on page 2.

Regular pearl is on page 1, and it is a boss item.

[river hollow]

egg shaped one is planula

increased healing when damaged

[river hollow]

i got to full from 5 hp in a few shots

(as bandit)

[neon haven]

are the heretics abilities different from the heresy buffs?

[wanton igloo]

No

[errant crane]

what does Empathy Cores do?

[woven prism]

the new thunderstrike item is nice

[vague lintel]

So how does the heretic work

[blazing lagoon]

I guess default shotgun is usually better?

[vague lintel]

You get the stuffs then you get the character

[wicked swallow]

all 4 heresy skills, has a constant health drain, and you have a tonnnn of max hp

[vague lintel]

Oh

[wicked swallow]

No. You get it and BECOME heretic. You cannot start as heretic.

[vague lintel]

I see

So like gunknight from gungeon

[wicked swallow]

Yeah.

[vague lintel]

Ok

[blazing lagoon]

gungeon has aged well

[latent karma]

what's the new elite type

[vague lintel]

Truly

[blazing lagoon]

perfected

not sure what it is though, not seen it one first loop, probably tier 2 elite

[eager mantle]

make heretic unlockable

[blazing lagoon]

or tier 3?

[vague lintel]

What does the new elite do

[errant crane]

just full shield

like super overloading

[fossil charm]

and inflicts cripple on hit

[eager mantle]

I just beat the game as heretic I DEMAND they become playable by normal means

[latent field]

so close yet so far

[zinc smelt]

Screen shot plz

[errant crane]

there's a lot of Perfected lunar chimera on the new Commencement

[blazing lagoon]

I've seen full shield guys on commencement

[kind quail]

Anybody got bandits alt skin so I can get a peek 👀

[latent field]

somebody posted it earlier ill get it for ya

[zinc smelt]

It’s deadbolt

[eager mantle]

heretic log

[dull ingot]

how do you unlock him?

[vague lintel]

HO MAMA

[errant crane]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[vague lintel]

That’s dope

[latent field]

yeah it's sick i need it

[scarlet matrix]

Holy moly that’s the best alt skin yet

[blazing lagoon]

are perfected guys tier 2 elites then

[spark imp]

uhm

[blazing lagoon]

or are they just specific to commencement

[errant crane]

gotta be

[spark imp]

the fuck is this lmao. Did we get two survivors?

[buoyant lynx]

Huntress's unlock condition was moved to Bandit, while Huntress herself is now unlocked by default alongside Commando

[eager mantle]

kind of

you transform into that if you grab all 4 of the lunar items that change your abilities

[wicked swallow]

No. One is a transformation.

[zinc smelt]

Grear

[latent karma]

i still don't quite get the grandparent, like what is the status effect they inflict

[buoyant lynx]

Technically. The second one, the Heretic, is more of a transformation.

[jade mulch]

Imagine if they released a false update that just took up 18 GB to fuck with us before the real one

[kind quail]

thank you kind stranger

[eager mantle]

I want it to be a survivor though

[latent karma]

is it like the vagrant

[blazing lagoon]

i didn't see the difference except for full shield, probably because i was playing drizzle

[wicked swallow]

4 heresy items exist now. Get all 4, and youre a Heretic.

[spark imp]

that's so interesting

[wanton igloo]

Does anyone know the unlock string for Bandit's second ability's option?

[scarlet matrix]

What that mean

[dull ingot]

i meant the hertic guy

[spark imp]

also, the final stage feels more like a fianl stage now.

[zinc smelt]

What are the skills of the heritc?

[wicked swallow]

Inflict 20 stacks of Hemorrage.

[errant crane]

I would assume the difference is a lot more noticeable on later stages

[wanton igloo]

That's not an unlock string

[wicked swallow]

The [x of Heresy] items.

[river finch]

get all 4 heresy items

[zinc smelt]

What are they?

[strange fulcrum]

has anyone beaten the game yet?

[buoyant lynx]

You collect the 4 heresy items to transform into the Heretic, but it doesn't permanently unlock the character

[spark imp]

unlock string, you mean the line to unlock it per file edit?

[latent karma]

do the crashed ships throughout the game do anything

[dull ingot]

oh easy

[woven prism]

do you need to beat the last phase of the end boss with bandit or is first phase also possible?

[zinc smelt]

Woolie has

[scarlet matrix]

Oh so sorta like binding of Isaac

[strange fulcrum]

Then I have to watch his stream cause I have no fucking clue how you enter the ship

[buoyant lynx]

Or Gungeon's Gunknight, yeah.

[river finch]

you defend it

[eager mantle]

ship is on a timer

[river finch]

yea its like a portal event

[strange fulcrum]

wait so if you're inside the zone and the timer runs out you win?

[scarlet matrix]

That’s really cool, what they look like

[unborn pollen]

I kinda hope they make the heretic a permanent unlock later on tbh

[eager mantle]

you activate the four pillars, take the bouncepad up to mithrix, kill mithrix, take a portal back to the surface then defend the ship

[river finch]

i dont know

i finished it in time

[blazing lagoon]

because lunar items have a much smaller unique pool, it's gonna be a lot easier than gunknight

[blazing lagoon]

not to mention

[woven prism]

how do i "spoiler"

[wicked condor]

does anyone know if ||the new heresy special|| has an activation chance? I couldn't really tell when I was playing with it earlier

[wicked swallow]

|| on each side of your spoiler

[scarlet matrix]

Woah that’s interesting

[river finch]

plus you can now reroll in the shop

[wicked swallow]

the ||ruin||? people are theorizing its proc rate based.

[unborn pollen]

you need to build up ||stacks of ruin|| otherwise it won't do anything

[primal jasper]

Thoughts on bandit so far? Seems like you want to spam m1 at boss then balance r's and shifts on ads

[woven prism]

end me

[prisma salmon]

anyway to start as -redacted-?

[wicked swallow]

Not without cheating

[woven prism]

okay let me just ask

[latent karma]

there's a challenge called piller of soul on commencement

[woven prism]

what are the new ships across the map and on the final stage

[prisma salmon]

too bad, still a cool addition

[wicked swallow]

Warrior?

May wanna rename that.

[river finch]

i think they are just decoration

[wicked swallow]

He aint much of a warrior.

[blazing lagoon]

same requirements as first game

[ruby sphinx]

whats wrong with Captain shift???????

[ebon violet]

heretic is kinda fun tbh wish he was a char you could start with

[blazing lagoon]

why don't they change huntress to collecting 10 monster logs then

[ebon violet]

maybe a modder will get onto it

[wicked swallow]

I have him. I'm saying "Warrior" is not what he is

[woven prism]

and what are the pillars for again? i didnt see it last time

[uneven island]

he fights, so he is a warrior

[wicked swallow]

She's just a starting character now

[scarlet matrix]

Cause getting those can be a pain

[wicked swallow]

He doesnt fight he cloaks and runs away like a sissy baby

[ruby sphinx]

++++++++

[blazing lagoon]

||to activate a jump pad to get to the arena high in the sky||

[wicked swallow]

whats that fancy new loader skill btw

[woven prism]

ahhh thanks

[scarlet matrix]

So how’s bandit play?

[woven prism]

i saw that and was like huh?

[vernal canopy]

Who is the other survivor aside from banit?

Bandit*

[wicked swallow]

Heretic, a transformation.

[vernal canopy]

How do you get that?

[latent karma]

|this seems important||

[upbeat ruin]

2000% damage stunning ground slam

[uneven island]

it's a huge berserk sword

.........paladin?

[vernal canopy]

Damn, I get to be guts?

Ima bout to throw my grasses on

[latent field]

looks like the buster sword lol

[wicked swallow]

m1 is a shotty, m2 is a hemorrage (superbleed) inflicting knife, shift cloaks you and stuns people around you, and r is a revolver that hits hard, hits harder on wounded enemies, and resets cooldowns if you kill an enemy with it

pretty sick kit imo

[unborn pollen]

collect all the "heresy" items in a single run

[latent karma]

there's a void fields style challenge in commencement that i'm trying to complete now

[scarlet matrix]

Guess mithrix made a sword but he preferred bonking with a hammer

[errant crane]

that's just a final fantasy reference

[ebon violet]

his second R ||increases damage by 10% and scales infinitely||

[kind quail]

Guess my next question is what is his alt M2 exactly

[ebon violet]

oops

[vernal canopy]

Damn, alright

[latent karma]

i assume it gets the sword when you finish

[wicked swallow]

||alt m1 is a rifle round thats just much weaker, alt special doesnt reset cooldowns but does more damage for the stage the more kills you get with it, and idk the alt knife||

[vernal canopy]

can I get heretic and Bandit in the same run?

[kind quail]

I wanna know if I wanna put in that effort lol

[latent karma]

does anyone know what stacking heresy items on heretic gest you

@uncut hatch yes

[wicked swallow]

bandit is huntress unlock, heretic cannot be unlocked

[vernal canopy]

There log entries

[unborn pollen]

yes

[latent karma]

soryr meant to at the dude

[wicked swallow]

no i dont think so

[vernal canopy]

fuck

[unborn pollen]

oh wait idk about the log entries

[vernal canopy]

I had Bandit auto unlocked for me

[wicked swallow]

cuz you gotta win as someone to get their log

[digital rampart]

does someone know how heritic works? cause I am just losing health without doing anything lol

[wicked swallow]

he's just huntress's unlock. huntress is now free

[woven prism]

isnt bandit immediately unlocked?

[wicked swallow]

That's how heretic works.

[scarlet matrix]

Very similar to his kit in first game expect he the secondary is a knife attack instead of a grenade

[wicked swallow]

You bleed out and die

[vernal canopy]

Ohhh, I see

[wicked swallow]

the stun grenade is now an aoe around you when you cloak but otherwise yeah

[latent karma]

i think you bleed more as you move

[unborn pollen]

heretic is a temporary transformation, so you gotta abuse healing items and your shift to stay alive for as long as possible

[scarlet matrix]

So the cloak is a stun now nice

[tidal lantern]

@normal thistle same thing is for artificer

[latent karma]

||wtf||

[errant crane]

Heretic + Hellfire seems busted

[ebon violet]

@digital rampart he also has a super high hp pool and triple jump

[wicked swallow]

heretic's upside is that you have a tonnnnnnnn of health

[wicked swallow]

WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[vernal canopy]

There are four heresy items, right?

[ebon violet]

yeah

[wicked swallow]

thats gotta give you like 15 right

[unborn pollen]

yep

[vernal canopy]

I see two new ones

[unborn pollen]

the new ones are actually kinda nuts

[wicked swallow]

yeah, enough for a full kit. all 4 ||turn you into the Heretic||

[dreamy rune]

if heretic was to be added as a normal survivor i think theyd need some sort of balancing, i dunno

[wicked swallow]

you also die very fast that way.

[scarlet matrix]

What do the new heresy items do?

[wicked swallow]

Actually, does strides disable the burning of hellfire?

[digital rampart]

am I dumb or did they buff fire elites? I am dying from fire so quick

[ebon violet]

the heretic R hitbox sucks ass

[latent karma]

@wicked swallow it gave me 3

[unborn pollen]

it literally has unlimited range lol

[wicked swallow]

One of them ||causes all damage you do to stack a Ruin effect. Using the skill causes all ruined enemies to take damage that scales with ruin.||

[errant crane]

GASOLINE IS BUSTED NOW WTH

[dull ingot]

what the fuck is this

[wicked swallow]

You need to do damage with other skills, then hit R. It will cause damage mapwide (to ruined enemies) based on the ruin stacks you have

[errant crane]

#ror2-game-questions

[wicked swallow]

PFFFFFFFFFT

[scarlet matrix]

Oh my that’s interesting

[worldly blade]

bruh playing with randoms is so infurating

[wicked swallow]

I'm going off what others have said i havent gotten to play yet

Only a bit

[errant crane]

it's the ship at the end of the game, but it also appears on Scorched Acres, so I assume there's some secret

[wicked swallow]

ship machine broke

[wicked swallow]

or worldbuilding

[latent karma]

also on distant roost

[scarlet matrix]

Try getting bands with randos, that’s true pain

[wicked swallow]

cuz its everywhere aparnetly

[spark imp]

wait, who argued that the R Heresy was proc based lol

[wicked swallow]

someone earlier

[errant crane]

if it were just for worldbuilding you think it'd only be on one stage

[wicked swallow]

the hex stacks specifically

[wicked swallow]

many crashes from many failed rescue attemtps

not like you can fuckin interact with it, no?

[errant crane]

not rn

I'm gonna experiment later

[wicked swallow]

yeah its just part of the map

[scarlet matrix]

How’s the new boss?

[errant crane]

rly fucking fun but weak

[uneven island]

it's a radar antenna

[wicked swallow]

no its a grandparent

[ebon violet]

@wicked swallow oh got it ty

[uneven island]

I know

I just simply cant get used to the head

[ebon violet]

clap all the enemies on the map skill

[wicked swallow]

yeah

[uneven island]

especially seeing the previous iteration in the files

[wicked swallow]

at least all the ones youve hit before i think

[scarlet matrix]

What head

[wicked swallow]

idk i havent used it myself

[uneven island]

you will see

[wicked swallow]

i also like the parent graphic better

a lot more like the ror1 one

[scarlet matrix]

Does it even have a head, didn’t seem like it did in the trailer

[wicked swallow]

like wtf is this?

[errant crane]

new Parent design

[uneven island]

the head is a giant circle-like thingie

[wicked swallow]

much better

[wicked swallow]

thats the old one lol

[scarlet matrix]

Oh the ring

[wicked swallow]

i just posted the new one

[errant crane]

did they nerf Parents or is Bandit just rly good at dealing with them

[dull ingot]

wow the red items have vfx when they drop

[wicked swallow]

parents are way better looking now

[vernal canopy]

What is 20 stacks of hemmhorage?

[wise elbow]

ALT LOADER R

[wicked swallow]

they dont look like theyre made of fuckin cotton anymore

[dreamy rune]

the debuff you apply with your m2

[uneven island]

bandit could stack it on one of his abilities

[wicked swallow]

bandit's knife inflicts hemorrage, which is superbleed. it stacks.

[wise elbow]

(also killing 2 umbras on swarms counts as killing 2 normal umbras)

[latent karma]

new commencement

[vernal canopy]

Do you just spam it to get the stacks?

[wicked swallow]

No

[wise elbow]

if you have backup mags

[wicked swallow]

Cuz it only lasts 15 seconds.

[vernal canopy]

I see

[wicked swallow]

You gotta use backup mags and Lights Out's cooldown reset.

[vernal canopy]

And how do you do the lights out thing?

[wicked swallow]

So like, shank boss, then flick to a wisp and blast em

Lights out does more damage the more hurt an enemy is. And if its lethal, all your cooldowns reset.

It also resets its own cooldown so you can high noon a ton of enemies if swarms is active

[late vault]

What is the fastest or best way to heal 1000 health on rex

[errant crane]

Medkit

+Nkuhanas

[wicked swallow]

rejuv racks

[errant crane]

yeah rejuv not nukuhanas mb

[visual skiff]

this is the text for beating the game on bandit

[weak kraken]

did anyone try melee bandit yet

[errant crane]

WAIT WHAT

[weak kraken]

did it go well

[wicked swallow]

alternatively, reach 2000 hp with Bison Steaks then lepton daisy

[scarlet matrix]

Any new enemies?

[wise elbow]

melee bandit? 👁️👁️

[wicked swallow]

he vanished
hot damn

[errant crane]

EVERY OTHER CHARACTER SAYS "and they left" WHAT

[uneven island]

there is a new lunar enemy

[visual skiff]

I know

[wicked swallow]

well he is the invisible man after all

[uneven island]

chimera exploder

[visual skiff]

he probably went into hiding

[wicked swallow]

new boss and new lunar chimera

[scarlet matrix]

Dear god...it’s beautiful

[wise elbow]

ok tldr alt loader R fucking sucks balls against flying targets

[bright stump]

Man's GONE

[wise elbow]

but it looks cool.

[wicked swallow]

shocker shocker

[wise elbow]

and would probably combo really well into alt special for fat numbers

[scarlet matrix]

That’s it dang was really hoping for clay men

[wicked swallow]

but yeah i wanna see a challenge run where someone either obliterates or kills mithrix as TF2 Spy bandit

[visual skiff]

*and the grandfather

[wicked swallow]

knife only. only knife.

[wise elbow]

but only having spiked fist for flying enemies is rough

[scarlet drum]

What is that?

[wicked swallow]

last stage which got reworked as the new transformation they added

[woven prism]

you get heretic on the weird stage no?

[vernal canopy]

Fuck bro, bandit is weak af

[woven prism]

he isnt what

[vernal canopy]

I need to get used to this

[warm magnet]

what

[wise elbow]

naaaaah

[errant crane]

oh btw Bandit's m2 has agile

[wicked swallow]

0/10 did not use the word "Pyrrhic"

[wicked swallow]

just use lights out lol

[vernal canopy]

I'm trying to learn him rn

His m1 isn't useful at all?

[wicked swallow]

the reload is to encourage you to use other skills than m1. you gotta constantly flip between skills

[wise elbow]

his aoe is weak but other than that he is good

[visual skiff]

bandit new skin, sick as fuck.

[wise elbow]

literally no

[wicked swallow]

are you using the main m1 or the alt cuz the alt sucks dick

[weak kraken]

YOOOOOOOO

[wise elbow]

THE MADMEN ACTUALLY DID IT

[wicked swallow]

It's deadbolt man

[vernal canopy]

I literally just got on ror2 and gave him a spin

[wise elbow]

THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING ADDED REAPER

OH MY FUCKING GOD

[wicked swallow]

i gotta play deadbolt

[uneven island]

what's up with the bandit reaper thingie

where did it originate

[wicked swallow]

Reference to Deadbolt, another game from Hopoo.

[weak kraken]

Yo, does clover make enemies drop more often with sacrifice artifact?

[wise elbow]

reaper is the main character from DEADBOLT, another hopoo game

[vernal canopy]

Deasbolt

[uneven island]

ah

[visual skiff]

???? go behind an enemy and shoot em up with your shotgun, use lights out on a weak enemy to refresh smoke bomb cooldown for PERMA uptime, debuff strong enemies which totals for 2000% damage, etc. bandit is fucking insane

[wise elbow]

(and a really good one btw)

[visual skiff]

this is the bandit skin btw

[blazing lagoon]

new commencement is a bit tedious though

[wicked swallow]

Bandit's boutta be the next sweaty tryhard man

[vernal canopy]

Does the skin have horns?

[vocal mason]

anyone know the new achievements for save file editing?

[errant crane]

did they actually just make Gasoline a better will o wisp??

[wise elbow]

ok i was gonna play with loader alt R but who fucking cares about that i got a skin to unlock

[wise elbow]

looks like it

[vocal mason]

yes

[wicked swallow]

wait

[vernal canopy]

That's dope

[vocal mason]

He has a new shotgun model too

[wicked swallow]

these motherfuckers buffed gasoline?

absolute madmen!!!!!!!!!

[vernal canopy]

POG

[errant crane]

YES THEY DID IT'S CRAZY NOW

[carmine nacelle]

Is bandit desperado stacks supposed to reset after 100?

[wicked swallow]

between stages i think

[wise elbow]

WHAT

[errant crane]

I KNOW

[wise elbow]

ACTUAL PSYCHOPATHS

[scarlet matrix]

Kinda looks like a fallout character

[marble sage]

THAT'S why it felt OP

[carmine nacelle]

No it keeps stacks between stages but as soon as im hitting 100 stacks the counter resets to 1 and im pretty sure the damage is as well

[wicked swallow]

That doesnt sound right

[errant crane]

I TOLD Y'ALL

[wise elbow]

ngl the bandit visuals are sooooo fucking good

[upbeat ruin]

Also the crowbar and focus crystal buffs. Those things are going to be kinda nuts

[visual skiff]

also, bandits utility is fucking busted rn, it does an insane amount of hits instead of just one.

[uneven island]

the overall buffs of everything

except tritip daggers

[latent karma]

kill screen for heretic

[tulip nimbus]

Hey does someone have ethereal copypasta

[blazing lagoon]

the game probably became easier again

[lime anvil]

anyone have visuals for the new skins? huntress, loader, etc?

[blazing lagoon]

but that's fine, as long as things are cool

[errant crane]

his alt util?

[lime anvil]

i have huntress but thats about it

[high shoal]

more like

cumtress

[wise elbow]

here's loader

[woven prism]

xd

[wise elbow]

the helmet looks really nice

[dull ingot]

what the fuck is this organization of items

[blazing lagoon]

this coat hinders her THICCNESS

[lime anvil]

i just played her in game

[quaint bone]

guys i cant activate Artifact of Vengance on Stage 5, heeelp

[lime anvil]

those pants ENHANCE her thiccness

[vernal canopy]

Bruh, idk how to survive long with bandit

[blazing lagoon]

i lost

need play

[uneven island]

huntress got some fur

[blazing lagoon]

EVEN BETTER

[woven prism]

shift, R, shift, R

in repeat

[scarlet matrix]

How’s the new comencement

[lime anvil]

anyone have the new mult visuals?

[wise elbow]

wym? worked fine for me
u must have messed up the code

[autumn harness]

how do u unlock the 12th character?

[lime anvil]

i have artificer one as well

[wise elbow]

OOOOOH FUCK

ARTI LOOKS GOOD OK

[woven prism]

arti does look nice

[scarlet matrix]

Does every character have a new skin?

[woven prism]

like an actual mage

[wise elbow]

u dont, its a temporary survivor
u need to get all 4 heresy items

[ionic torrent]

take this 4 items

[wise elbow]

those aren't new skins, just reworked old ones

[scarlet matrix]

Ah I see

[lime anvil]

only huntress, loader, artificer and mult

[ionic torrent]

and that's cool

[wise elbow]

hell yeah

[wraith thunder]

Does anyone have a save file with all of the new content unlocked?

Or does anyone know the achievement strings so I can edit the txt file myself?

[lime anvil]

does anyone have the mult one? its the only one i havent seen yet

[blazing lagoon]

new loader is cool

[ionic torrent]

yea

all new reskins are cool

[latent karma]

heretic lore

[wise elbow]

new loader is VERY cool

[lime anvil]

i turned up the gamma

[tacit mist]

oooh

[wise elbow]

oooh arti even got a visor

damn her skin is sick

[lime anvil]

and it looks like cute little sandals too

[hot dune]

I love how the alt skins are now more than just color changes

[rapid ibex]

i like that change too

[tacit mist]

yeah

[steel remnant]

can you get one with the gamma up like that of Bandits?

[woven prism]

yep felt kinda weird back then

[tacit mist]

its cute!

[hot dune]

Can I see the loader alt?

[wise elbow]

friendly beetles are now a bit more distinctly different

[steel remnant]

i kinda wanna draw it, it looks sick as heck

[tawny plaza]

It looks ill

[wise elbow]

here's loader

[wise elbow]

kinda...

[lapis spindle]

how do you start the mithrix fight now?

[lime anvil]

compared to loader base

[wise elbow]

and ingame

[lime anvil]

updated loader so c h u n k y

[rapid ibex]

you got the 3ds version?

[vague lintel]

YOOOOOOOO

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO

[rocky stream]

How tf do i unlock the bird char

[latent karma]

play command, go to newt store, buy all four heresy items

[rocky stream]

ok

[steel remnant]

hold all the heresy items at once

[rocky stream]

thanks

[woven prism]

what items

[dull ingot]

can you unlock stuff in prismatic trials? or only in normal game mode

[tribal rover]

you can iirc, but remember that prismatic trials are only two stages

[lost forge]

can you actually play heretic or no

[rocky stream]

So what are the heretic items

[balmy shore]

anybody know what Merc's new utility is?

[stray lotus]

Artifact of command, many back up mags

[wise elbow]

visions of heresy, hooks of heresy, strides of heresy, essence of heresy

[stray lotus]

Merc's new ability is one dash but stronger

[visual skiff]

no, his main one. idk if its because of multiplayer though

[tribal rover]

the four blue items with ___ of heresy

[analog rock]

Literally just run it with alt R. I got it without a single item

[buoyant lynx]

Similar to Blinding Assault, but with only one dash, deals 700% damage, and Exposes. Admittedly a little pointless if you know how to extend your 3rd M1 slash into a Blinding Assault

[visual skiff]

oh man

[errant crane]

no his normal util is rly good, 2 second invis on a 3 second cd is crazy

[visual skiff]

I was hoping he had an actually cool new one

[stray lotus]

that too, but its quicker to just grab 4 back up mags and go to town on the boss

[woven prism]

my game just bugged with merc, i started round, hit an enemy twice with m1 and got the new dash omegalul

[wise elbow]

infusion is strapped to bandit's gun like shotgun shells

[lapis spindle]

mercs alt dash is extremely strong and also has a very high scu/awu slam rate

[rocky stream]

I didnt get anything

[visual skiff]

no I'm not saying it was bad, but in a large multiplayer game of 16 people, it's supposed to hit once for 200% when you go invisible, but it hit like 10 times for 200%

[rocky stream]

I bought five items that ended with heresy and didnt get any achivment

[errant crane]

that is insane

[visual skiff]

yeah but you morph into the new survivor

[visual skiff]

you dont get one

[rocky stream]

I didnt mortp

[visual skiff]

you didn't?

[rocky stream]

nope

[visual skiff]

take a screenshot

[dull ingot]

Man engi just has just been getting better and better each patch

[graceful knot]

does anyone know about bandits alt m2?

[errant crane]

Behemoth on Bandit is absolutely busted

[molten wraith]

so is the secret survivor permanently unlocked once u kill mithrix with them or not?

[steel remnant]

does anyone got a good reference of Bandit's alt?

[wise elbow]

cooooool.

[dull ingot]

Fungus buff and anti grav on primary

[errant crane]

no, it's not a new survivor, just a transformation

[rocky stream]

2 hands and 3 visdoms

[errant crane]

like Guppy from Isaac

[visual skiff]

you have to take every heresy item

not 5 of 2 of them

[rocky stream]

There is just two?

[visual skiff]

no there isnt

they added 2 new ones

[dull ingot]

I heretic any good?

[visual skiff]

hooks of heresy, and another I forget the name of xd

[rocky stream]

fuck, how do i unlock those two

[visual skiff]

they should be auto unlocked

they spawn at the lunar shop

[wise elbow]

heretic is weird

[rocky stream]

I legit only have these

[lunar ether]

so

[wise elbow]

it seems the changes are 1. a shit ton of health 2. 2 extra jumps and 3. negative health regen

[visual skiff]

its these two, you haven't found them in game

[wise elbow]

u have the other 2 unlocked
right after visions

[visual skiff]

they dont have a lock on them

[mint crypt]

Do we know if attack speed has any effect on Bandit?

[visual skiff]

so they're unlocked

[wise elbow]

yep, they unlock just like the original 2

[rocky stream]

I didnt see them in show

[shrewd jacinth]

Reload

[latent field]

yo wtf does the slab in the bazaar do

[visual skiff]

not guaranteed

[shrewd jacinth]

And animation speed

[lavish spindle]

why i have 12th character in logbook? is it a bug?

[woven prism]

the feather blue item is nice

[visual skiff]

nope, new survivor "the heretic"

[lavish spindle]

WOW

[visual skiff]

it's not one you can unlock and play as

[rocky stream]

So i need to find them in the world

[visual skiff]

but you morph into him once you collect all 4 heretic items

[lavish spindle]

but still nice

[visual skiff]

no

you just need to go to like 3 shops

[rocky stream]

In the shop?

[lunar ether]

one of the altars gave a tougher times for a red item

[rocky stream]

ok

[visual skiff]

they'll show up eventually

[lavish spindle]

thanks

[rocky stream]

I use comman

[steel remnant]

did MUL-Ts alt change at all as well?

[visual skiff]

yeah

just do that if you want

[rocky stream]

So i cant play with command?

[wise elbow]

why

[lethal kite]

what does the pillar of soul do?

[wise elbow]

you can

[dull ingot]

drones now do more damage

[wise elbow]

ye, they scale with levels now

[gritty knot]

does anyone know what the internal achievements for the new alternate skills are called? i know that bandit's alternate primary is called Bandit2ConsecutiveReset

[visual skiff]

cheating

[gritty knot]

lmao

[visual skiff]

but no I don't

[gritty knot]

aight

[latent karma]

looks like you need pillar of soul to get to mithrix

[woven prism]

ohhh i like the probe item

[lavish spindle]

btw something has stolen my moon logbook also lobook from one another location was disappeared too

its ok?

[visual skiff]

I might have to cheat to unlock desparado though, it's super hard if you have bands

although it hurts

[shrewd jacinth]

Kill Mithrix with nothing but R shots

[wicked swallow]

lmao

[woven prism]

whats desperado? the kill endboss with r?

[wicked swallow]

but yeah just..... scrap bands

[shrewd jacinth]

Yes

[visual skiff]

yea

[woven prism]

i found that pretty easy ngl

[shrewd jacinth]

It's OP

[wicked swallow]

His alt m1 was a pretty easy unlock

[lavish spindle]

i did only last shot on 4th phase

[visual skiff]

idk I'll try it

[visual skiff]

yea I got that in like about 5 minutes

[wicked swallow]

I just activated swarms and high nooned some beetles lol

[visual skiff]

yeah drizzle and swarm

[woven prism]

i am struggling with alt m2

[shrewd jacinth]

His alt M2 is a hard upgrade and his Alt M1 is garbage

[visual skiff]

then go utility + R over and over

[shrewd jacinth]

Alt R is weirdly good

[wicked swallow]

his alt m1 is a strict downgrade

[lavish spindle]

did you lose 2 of your stage logbooks too?

[shrewd jacinth]

Stack crowbars

[wicked swallow]

Dont even need to cloak

[woven prism]

how do the stacks on alt R work?

[lavish spindle]

10% stack

[visual skiff]

oh I just assumed so because it said "reset cooldowns" so I thought there had to be cooldowns to reset

[woven prism]

yes but how do they stack

[wicked swallow]

lights out resets its own cooldown

[lavish spindle]

for kills

[visual skiff]

oh yeah lol

[woven prism]

infinite? each stage infinite, do they reset after stage

[lavish spindle]

like ordinary r

yeah

[visual skiff]

I'm struggling with the alt m2, how did you guys get it

[lethal kite]

just got aspect of lightning on my first bandit run

[shrewd jacinth]

Command engage

[lavish spindle]

drizzel

[woven prism]

u have to get backup ammo and spam the shit outta right click on boss

[visual skiff]

like which enemy, I know bosses cant get the debuff

[woven prism]

they can tho

[visual skiff]

uuh

I was hitting beetle queen and 0 debuffs

were given

[woven prism]

i think from behind

[lavish spindle]

100% crits and mitrix

[woven prism]

golem is best

[visual skiff]

ok

[wicked swallow]

i love tri tip's graphic for bandit. he uses it like a bayonet

[woven prism]

i mean the mobs dont tank too much for me if i stack 10 m2

[wise elbow]

yeah items look sick on bandit

topaz brooch is on his hat like a badge

[wicked swallow]

You gotta crit to deal hemorrage.

[visual skiff]

he puts aegis on top of his gun

[visual skiff]

ah, ty

[wicked swallow]

remember that you crit from behind tho

[visual skiff]

yea ik

[spring lodge]

is it bad that my favorite part of the update was the geater wisp changes?

[plain quarry]

how do tou exit the planet now at the end of the game ?

[dull ingot]

no, there's no reason that character card should have been in the boss pool

[plain quarry]

i was locked in the arena

[spring lodge]

?

[wicked swallow]

it still is

[lavish spindle]

portals

[wicked swallow]

as a swarm

[woven prism]

anyone knows how long the stack of m2 of bandit lasts?

[lavish spindle]

these blue flying things

[plain quarry]

the floating orb thingies

[wicked swallow]

but they can be stunned now

[plain quarry]

well shit i tried to jump into one of them but couldnt

[devout linden]

god bandit is such a badass

[hollow plinth]

heretic is pretty good

i don't like that bandit's R doesn't reset if you kill with an instant proc but wouldn't kill without it

[lavish spindle]

^

[silk spoke]

so

[woven prism]

yeah

[latent karma]

where's the info page on heretic? i'm trying to understand the negative health regen

[silk spoke]

why are nearly all my characters locked

[woven prism]

its annoying

[devout linden]

yeah that definitely makes it feel inconsistent

[lavish spindle]

what can heretic do?

[hollow plinth]

all 4 heresy items

[lavish spindle]

bruh

it is only charecter model?

[hollow plinth]

yes it's just a transformation ala isaac

guppy, lord of flies, mom

[lavish spindle]

i also have a question - where is my moon logbook

[lavish spindle]

i see

[silk spoke]

my safe just completely reset

everything is locked

[north blade]

People saying the rifle ability is bad?

[lavish spindle]

also i lost another logbook but idk what is it

[lavish spindle]

yeah

[deft viper]

Anyone know if tri tips are reliant on proc co-effient anymore? I can't tell by their words if it is or isn't reliant on that and luck anymore

[north blade]

Yeah it seems much more efficient to just use the revolver for ranged shots

[woven prism]

yeah the rifle is pretty dog

[obtuse fiber]

Last stage is different so new log there. and I'm pretty sure the other one is a new hidden realm. I've been trying to see if anyone knows about it but no dice

[north blade]

and the shotgun has more hits to proc

[silk spoke]

i am now tempted to unlock everything through the game file

[lavish spindle]

oh i see thanks

[hollow plinth]

@lavish spindle oh i forgot, heretic has double jump

[north blade]

Getting that big achievement on bandit is gonna be a bish

[hollow plinth]

imma dig into the text files and change his name to bird up

[river rivet]

Hopoo I stg let me start run as ||Heretic||

[calm raptor]

People have mentioned the 12th character who's only referenced in the logbook right?

Who is that. Who.

[scarlet drum]

How do you get it?

[woven prism]

its a transformation

[wicked swallow]

get all the heresy items

all 4 cuz theres 4 now

[scarlet drum]

Thanks

[woven prism]

those are blue items

[wicked swallow]

then you are the heretic herself. you do not unlock her. this is the only way to be heretic.

[mental saddle]

wished it was an unlock after that, shame its just a temporary thing

[woven prism]

wait a couple days and u have her as a mod

[calm raptor]

Holy shit.

[latent karma]

shooting pots on aqueduct with lights out resets cooldown for bandit

[north blade]

Would I be able to do a drop-in lobby and pick her?

[visual skiff]

parent lore is confusing...

[hollow plinth]

if you're gonna do command runs to speed heretic, get a gnarled woodsprite

[calm raptor]

Interesting.

[lunar ether]

beat the game with bandit

[vernal canopy]

Alright, how tf do you get past getting destroyed as bandit with golems

[woven prism]

XD

[vernal canopy]

literally, they just tank the revolver

[woven prism]

u have to be in stealth

[north blade]

Yeah honestly

[vernal canopy]

I'm so rusty

[north blade]

they been kicking my ass

[woven prism]

u dont have to kill them with revolver

[wicked swallow]

i must

[lunar ether]

bandits mastery skin is

[devout linden]

go invis, get behind them and spam m1

[wicked swallow]

oho

[jovial marsh]

can artifact of metamorphosis spawn the player as heretic?

[woven prism]

u have to slice them 20 times and revolver anyone else to reset slice

[vernal canopy]

You can only swing it once?

[north blade]

wow

[woven prism]

take these

[earnest patrol]

trading Shotgun for Rifle doesn't seem like a good trade

[wicked swallow]

doubt

[north blade]

Well, guess I'm doing command then

[silk spoke]

ow i just created a new save file

stupid me

[vernal canopy]

Bruh, not everyone wants to use command to get an abhorrent amount of an item

kind of contradicts the skil lfactor

[north blade]

I don't enjoy using it

[woven prism]

bruv i found a printer

[latent karma]

i'd be more curious abt what happened if you got the heretic items in a metamorphosis run

i assume metamorphosis is negated

[north blade]

You would probably just turn back into her

because you have the items

[lunar ether]

how does heretic work on mithrix

[woven prism]

idk would be weird if u turn back to normal character mid fight

[silk spoke]

Mods break the game now

rip propersave

[woven prism]

wdym now

theyve been a thing forever

[visual skiff]

item sharing and drop in work tho

[north blade]

Item sharing doesn't share lunars though

[wicked swallow]

i just realized bandit basically has triple jump

[north blade]

Quad jump if you time the second smoke bomb burst right

[arctic dagger]

Am I reading patch notes right? They nerfed Commando primary?

[wicked swallow]

no its more total bulle

t

[lunar ether]

i thought it was buffed

[blissful quiver]

Bandit suck

[wise elbow]

holy FUCK grandparent looks sick

bandit not suck.

absolutely not.

[woven prism]

bandit no sucky

[blissful quiver]

Sucks againts flying

[woven prism]

hell nah

[wise elbow]

what

[wicked swallow]

bandits great

[woven prism]

hes fine

[earnest patrol]

I can't wait to see bandit's alternate m2 and m4

[wise elbow]

in what way

[wicked swallow]

shoot them?

[woven prism]

XD

[blissful quiver]

They lived

[wicked swallow]

his shotgun has a very high effective range

[lunar ether]

shoot them more

[woven prism]

shoot them again

[devout linden]

dont miss 🤷‍♂️

[blissful quiver]

They're still alive

[woven prism]

true

[wicked swallow]

and lights out takes care of lesser wisps in 1 shot

[wise elbow]

and also lights out has like no dropoff period

[woven prism]

well seems like u miss

[wicked swallow]

yeah lights out has no damage falloff and is like 100% accurate

[blissful quiver]

I hit every shot and those fuckers did not die

[wraith thunder]

Which bandit special do you guys think is better?

[wise elbow]

u shooting rubber bullets?

[devout linden]

bandit is great against wisps, you can just chain the r

[woven prism]

if u struggle against wisps i dont know what to tell you man

[blissful quiver]

Not wisps

[wicked swallow]

then whom

[wise elbow]

shoot them in their fucking spines

[blissful quiver]

Just all of the other flying bs this game has to offer

[vernal canopy]

Wtf, Golems just tank everything, and make the revolver weird to use

[woven prism]

then go behind em

and press R once

[blissful quiver]

I did not get a single not flying boss my whole run and i couldnt do anything

[wicked swallow]

hey guys whats up its me your boy Bandit, i just killed the stone titan in 3 seconds

[woven prism]

you suck bandit

[blissful quiver]

And then I get horde of many blazing greater wisps on stage 4 to die insantly

[north blade]

Boss can use crowbars now lol

[visual skiff]

get up to them, you can fly if you have enough monsters around

[blissful quiver]

I didn't get any mobility items either

[woven prism]

yes

[blissful quiver]

Idk if bandit suck or run suck

[wicked swallow]

also yeah, lights out and smoke bomb mean you can literally fly

[woven prism]

u can jump up to them and blast their heads off

[blissful quiver]

Not without feathers i cant

[wicked swallow]

cuz you jump when you activate and deactivate smokebomb, and lights out means you can just like

[young prairie]

so what's with the extra survivor in the logbooks?

[wicked swallow]

smoke, pop a wisp, smoke, pop a wisp, over and over

[woven prism]

hey guys its me, bandit i just one shot the boss in stage 1 :)

[wicked swallow]

and just fly

[wicked swallow]

transformation if you get all 4 heresy items. cannot be started as

[young prairie]

ohhhhhhhhhh

[lilac rune]

damn the final stage overhaul is really good

[silk spoke]

the bandit kinda feels like a better version of captain for me

[wicked swallow]

whyd these fucking madmen buff gasoline omllllllll

[devout linden]

i only got to see like 5 seconds of it before those new ball guys fucked me

[lilac rune]

new orb pals

[brave relic]

Who wants some red items?

[steel remnant]

can someone send me a few good references of Bandit so i can draw him?

[visual skiff]

share some of that luck with me holy fuck

[visual skiff]

just open his logbook

[steel remnant]

im on console

[lilac rune]

behemoth stacks on captain are kinda hot ngl

[earnest patrol]

beetle queen buff is kinda really crazy

[brave relic]

frost relic is good now

[steel remnant]

my sadness of not owning a good PC is very large today

[woven talon]

can someone post sometyhing in the feedbacks and ideas for me I deleted mine earlier because I misspelled !feedback

[wicked swallow]

Okay I know i have 10 glasses but that shouldnt be THAT good ocnsidering i have backstab. Why does everything die so fast?

[earnest patrol]

tell me your idea and if I like it I'll do it for you

[buoyant lynx]

yes

[brave relic]

also it's funny how greater wisps now can be easily stunned and they even stop their attack

[visual skiff]

ah ok

[brave relic]

but brass contraptions remain the same

[wicked swallow]

i like the greater wisp nerf

[visual skiff]

sorry for your loss

[woven talon]

!feedback
The push back on the charge pillars on the moon are to strong causing the player to be unable to charge the field with focused convergence from them making it annoying constantly forcing the player to run back to the pillar and at most getting 6 charge

With focused convergence

[brave relic]

oh also I unfortunately died as bandit on monsoon at stage 8

[woven talon]

forgot to put that gimme a minute

[earnest patrol]

I haven't been to the new moon so I have no idea what those do

[woven talon]

Its basically a teleporter zone but you fight lunar enemies and it pushes the player away from the center of it causing the player to move a pretty sizable amount of distance. Since I got 3 focused convergence it hardly let me charge

[wicked swallow]

yo guys i just realized they fixed supply beacons on controller

his rt shot the left one and his lt shot the right one but not antmore

[summer terrace]

crfndr was my first equip of the new patch and then i saw le elephante

[errant crane]

they patched that out like a year ago wtf

[earnest patrol]

btw has anyone made a new item.txt?

[wicked swallow]

lmao elephant

[brave relic]

holy shit the grandparent is brutal

[vernal canopy]

Idk how to feel about bandit, dude literally dies so easily

[visual skiff]

dont get hit 3head

[visual skiff]

la elephanto

[vernal canopy]

Dude, I have literally everything in this game, and can play every character

and now I'm having trouble with bandit

[summer terrace]

hes really strong imo

[brave relic]

well he is a new character

we all struggle with new characters

[vernal canopy]

I took to captain and loader really well when they were added

[brave relic]

well that's you

[buoyant lynx]

Captain and Loader are stupid easy to learn.

[vernal canopy]

And I'm still godlike with Commando, still pisses my friends off

[buoyant lynx]

Especially Loader.

[brave relic]

when cap was released I thought he was garbage

[vernal canopy]

Rex was also easy to pick-up, but using the new abilities Rex had was weird

Honeslty, I never had trouble with any of the chacters until Bandit

[brave relic]

Ok

[elder atlas]

each character offers a new playstyle, it's not unusual to have trouble playing a new one

[buoyant lynx]

REX isn't too hard to pick up, it's just understanding proper health management

[vernal canopy]

I just don't understand how to survive with him

[brave relic]

anyways, the only thing I'm so far not really enjoying from this update is the alt skills unlocks

most of them sound just annoying to do

[buoyant lynx]

Bandit's survival method is kill or be killed.

[brave relic]

Bandit with a crowbar

[vernal canopy]

Fade, no offense, but everything you have wrote is utterly useless, and holds no merit. You either say "Oh, that character is easy" or something else

Either answer the question thoroughly, or say nothing

[visual skiff]

WAIT

YOU CAN DO

[upbeat creek]

Someone got perforated

[visual skiff]

join_as heretic WITH DROP IN

LMFAO

[earnest patrol]

"Kill or be killed" is 90% of video games that have ever existed

[vernal canopy]

Exactly

Which is why that is horrible advice

So, lemme try again

What am i doing wrong with bandit

[wise elbow]

grandparent lore entry

[earnest patrol]

Bandit's survival method is strategically weaving Stealth Bombs between M4s so that you can use movement speed + invisibility to not get deleted

[visual skiff]

without the help of brooch / aegis, he's super weak, my only advice is to watch that utility cooldown

[wise elbow]

pretty much yeah

[earnest patrol]

And then having a good intuition of your own damage and enemy health so that you actually know what's a good target to use your M4 on

[wise elbow]

managing stealth is a huge part of his kit

[brave relic]

welp, hope I don't get smoked on mithrix

[vernal canopy]

Thank you

[lavish spindle]

[wise elbow]

and yeah, knowing your lights out damage is also very valuable
but that just comes with time ig

[lavish spindle]

3000iq

[brave relic]

lights out with crowbar is wonderful

[wise elbow]

true

imagine it would be fucking nuts with desperado

[brave relic]

Oneshot!
Oneshot!
Oneshot!
Another oneshot!

[quartz torrent]

Did someone unlock new alt for loader ?

i was wondering if u need to kill other loader player or nemesis count as well

[brave relic]

umbras prob count yeah

[calm raptor]

Also what are the new boss items in the logbook?

[brave relic]

I don't think the devs would want a skill that is only unlocked via multiplayer

[brave relic]

prob grandparent and there is one boss item that I assume is for the Solus Unit

[quartz torrent]

ok i'll try thx for the answer

[shrewd jacinth]

Solus, Overloading and Grandparent items

[wise elbow]

it's umbras, yes

[autumn cipher]

i love the solus item

[quartz torrent]

ok thx

[shrewd jacinth]

I'm going to say it right now

[brave relic]

same

[wise elbow]

the alt is pretty fun

works well with thunder fist

[earnest patrol]

what do the Solus and Overloading items do 👀

[brave relic]

Solus you summon 2 probes that get stronger for each ally you have

[quartz torrent]

don't say more i'll see soon enough :))

[stray lotus]

Overloading is like normal magma worm but with lightning

[shrewd jacinth]

Overloading Worm drop: S tier
Solus drop: C/B tier (very strong if you meet the requirements, otherwise underwhelming)
Grandparent item: Meme tier

[wise elbow]

mkay

[final umbra]

How does one get the new loader ability

[shrewd jacinth]

Very wrong

[brave relic]

artifact of vengeance

[wise elbow]

u go to bulwark's ambry to unlock vengeance

[shrewd jacinth]

It summons a lightning bolt directly on top of the enemy

[wise elbow]

on loader

[shrewd jacinth]

It also does not burn

[wise elbow]

ah! royal capacitor

[shrewd jacinth]

Its more like free damage than anything

Yes, like AOE Royal

[earnest patrol]

if the Grandparent item is the same as it was in the leftover data it seems like a better beetle guard and that's it

[shrewd jacinth]

Flat healing upon being damaged

[quartz torrent]

no tis not

[limpid drum]

New moon is pretty cool

Because new enemies and new layout

[shrewd jacinth]

Stack repulsion plates, get chipped by wisps, or get burned by elites, it's only good early game and it's on the stage 5 boss so

[silk spoke]

bandid it surprisingly good at dealing with hordes

[quartz torrent]

all new moon combined are way cooler

[limpid drum]

But I pulled it close because I didn’t know how to escape the boss room

[earnest patrol]

so it's a boss tier medkit?

[shrewd jacinth]

I don't think it needs to be buffed but Grandparent item is super bad without specific requirements and unlike Solus is it not nearly as much of a payoff

[limpid drum]

Barely escaped

[stray lotus]

Isn't it just 10 percent to spawn lighting on enemy and normal magma worm item is 10 percent to spawn magma balls?

[shrewd jacinth]

Actually, yes

It's boss tier medkit that works best on chip damage

[rocky stream]

wait i dont keep the heretic?

[shrewd jacinth]

Which is not a real thing on half the enemies in the game if not more so like...

[wise elbow]

but to be fair grandparent has such a cool design

[rocky stream]

I left after i got it, i thought it was permanent

[shrewd jacinth]

Also has anyone got a screenshot of Heretic's appearance in the logbook?

[wicked swallow]

do we know what each individual pillar does?

[rocky stream]

Isnt the heretic a permanent char?

[wicked swallow]

no

anyway so ||pillar of design pushes you, pillar of soul's zone shrinks, || but what do the other 2 do?

[lament trail]

Give it a week and a mod will make them permanent lol

[spark cipher]

||pillar of blood does life drain||

[analog karma]

The way mul-t was meant to be played

[wicked swallow]

i havent got a damn clue what Mass does.

[rocky stream]

rip i spent so much lunar coins and then i insantly left