key
#gd2-nullified
tired axle
merry karma
best item
pine iris
ngl tho key is great
tired axle
one free white per stage is nice if you get it early/are going for a long run, stacking isn't worth it tho unless when using artifact of command
merry karma
cool
noble sierra
oh nice, i havent gotten this one before
tired axle
it makes all your attacks explode for 50% total damage after a delay and converts 50% of your health into shield
it's really good
noble sierra
hopefully i can finally get mastery with this run lol
merc mastery is the very last achievement i hve to get
tired axle
good luck mate
tired axle
very cool.
fluid notch
ok
buoyant karma
Anyone know if sundered grove is coming to console?
fluid notch
it will
tired axle
yeah, it is coming to console, we just don't know when yet
last geyser
This can't be good
tired axle
watch them get both bands
fluid notch
just dodge
merry karma
imagine if you got tesla
sand abyss
This can't be good
Sticky bombs time
last geyser
and then I died to the jellies with runalds band and red whip :(
foggy widget
based
foggy widget
and then I died to the jellies with runalds band and red whip :(
also based
covert sentinel
Am i just bad--or are the survivors kind of weirdly balanced?
Commando kind of does nothing
Captain kills everything just by looking at it and gets 2 free items per stage
tired axle
yeah, mando sucks and cap is op right now
covert sentinel
Artificer has little to defend herself and can not scale very well.
tired axle
arti is pretty decent
flamethrower scales really well with bleed and her m2 can proc runald's and kjaro's band really well
heady citrus
I cant open the ingame console, there is no grave accent on my keyboard (corsair strafe rgb) are there any other ways to open console?
tired axle
the button combination is different depending on what kind of keyboard you have, on a german keyboard it's ctrl+alt+ö for example
heady citrus
oh okay, how do I know what combination it is?
covert sentinel
I see, thanks
tired axle
i honestly have no idea, it you could just try pressing different combinations, it should always be ctrl+alt+something
covert sentinel
I really wonder if i missed something with captain, maybe he has some scaling issues?
tired axle
nah, cap is just overpowered rn
heady citrus
the alt ctrl ö worked tysm (:
tired axle
you're welcome
noble sierra
i finally did it
tired axle
great
covert sentinel
Thanks. Maybe, it bites captain in later loops that he has no defensive or mobility skills?
Though, guess feathers can fix that too
tired axle
well, ya could always pick up strides of heresy, or just get a cople goat hooves, energy drinks or wax quails
also feather, yeah
covert sentinel
A year ago, i literally refunded the game
Cause, i could only play commandow tihin the first 2 hours.--
And he felt terrible
Did not know that other characters are so much better
tired axle
he does technically scale a little bit slower with any proc item, an atg will normally give +30% damage, but only +22.5% on cap, due to his primary having a proc coefficient of 0.75
yeah, commando is honestly terrible
he does get a lot better if you get his alternate skills tho
still not even close to comparable to captain tho
covert sentinel
Is this an accident,, or was commando always supposed to be bad
tired axle
it's mainly due to the devs buffing difficulty scaling in the last update without buffing all of the characters, huntress and commando didn't receive any buff iirc and are currently probably the worst survivors
covert sentinel
thanks
tired axle
they will most likely try to buff everyone to an equal power level in the next update
covert sentinel
Should anyone besides commando and huntress expect buffs?
Should the captain mains be afraid of the next patch?
tired axle
i can definitely see nerf coming to loader and captain, it will probably just be some slight stat adjustments and nothing major, the characters won't just suddenly become unplayable
tulip nimbus
Or maybe a change similar to merc that trades off and is negative to some playstyles and good for others
tired axle
and for buffs i can't actually think of any specific survivors that need them other than mando and huntress. they will probably change some of the alternate abilities tho, for example mult's scrap launcher which isn't really better than the other primaries at anything right now.
also, for acrid i do actually think both passives are fine, poison is great for aoe and for very large enemies like mithrix or bosses in multiplayer, while blight excels at single target dps and scales better with items like backup mags or purity
also blight is great for melee acrid
sly vessel
Huntress honestly feels pretty good with ballisra, but she could use a bit of a damage buff. Also arrow rain and pretty much all of commandos defaults could use a buff
300% damage on phase round
That’s like less than clicking twice as commando
Same amount of damage you do in like 0.6s of shooting
brave relic
it's bigger dps + procs
phase round is just kinda there, it's just so you have a M2
they did good with the phase blast although it could have a bit of damage nerf
but other than that it feels fun and good to use
sly vessel
Phase round needs a buff tho
Or make phase blast easier to get
But it’s just horrible
IMO it should be able to proc bands so ya don’t need frags to proc
brave relic
yeah
tired axle
yeah, buffing it to 400% would probably even be enough
maybe increase the projectile size to make hitting multiple targets easier
sly vessel
Or just make it explode when it hits something, or have like a ukelele effect, so you have some cc
Yeah some kind of cc don’t really know how
tired axle
could maybe even have slight homing
covert sentinel
Unlocking stuff seems terrible :/
Seems like, everything major requires you to risk your run(or for mercenary, commit seppuku).
sly vessel
How?
covert sentinel
Thus, if you want to unlock something, the way to go seems to be going on the lowest difficulty
sly vessel
You can never die from fall damage btw
brave relic
only some achievements need you to basically give up your run
sly vessel
Unless you have ungodly amounts of shaped glass
brave relic
and if you don't want to end your run, just don't do it, make a run later that has the focus on doing that
sly vessel
What would be an achievement that requires you to give up your run?
tired axle
only run ending ones i can think of are captain and mercenary, and both of those are technically a victory
well, also purity and the skin achievements
sly vessel
Yeah but that’s not requiring you to give up your run
tired axle
and the one for loader where ya obliterate in under 25min
sly vessel
Seeing as you gotta do it at some point anyhow
sly vessel
and the one for loader where ya obliterate in under 25min
Well that’s pretty much impossible unless you’re specifically focusing on doing that in your run
tired axle
yeah, i'd just consider these achievements as "win the game in a specific way)
sly vessel
I really don’t feel that there’s any achievements that require you to give up your run
If there are someone please inform me
tired axle
i guess there are "die 5 times" and "die 20 times", but those really don't count
like, you'll get them eventually
covert sentinel
btw, what role does the moon and lunar coin play for veteran players?
Do you just loop r still do the moon?
Do you spend lunar coins in runs, and if so do you have to farm them in "setup runs"?
(runs that are not supposed to go far and instead just yield coins)
brave relic
the moon is just the area for you to kill mithrix
it's usually a bad ideia to loop for it since mithrix has good enough scaling to tank your damage in a pretty good run
summer terrace
You can never die from fall damage btw
brave relic
lunar coins are just coins you can spend on optional items, so you can spice up your run or get a item that will help ya
brave relic
<:Frailty:695118932155170816>
3️⃣
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covert sentinel
Maybe i phrased this poorly
I meaned, is looping or killing the final boss the normal way to play?
Is spending coins in a loop run common
covert sentinel
And, do you have to grind lunar coins before going for a proper loop run that is supposed to go for hours?
brave relic
no, lunar items are not necessary for you to have a super strong run
brave relic
well you're not wrong
tired axle
but not an acceptable one
serene badger
obliteration
summer terrace
I usually try to go for stage 11 mithrix
covert sentinel
I mean, lunar items properly help alot in a run. Which is why they are concerning.
summer terrace
that's what's most fun to be
foggy widget
I usually try to go for stage 11 mithrix
stage 11 mithrix is very fun
covert sentinel
Would suck to have to farm to maximize the odds for your loop run going as far as possible
brave relic
as I said, you don't need lunars for a run to be good
it's mostly rng and skill
serene badger
I go until my game literally cant load anything and I crash
brave relic
but if you're looking towards lunars anyways
covert sentinel
The point is, lunar generally helps a run, does it not?
brave relic
I recommend mithrix for farming, since it's a in general easier fight than the twisted scavanger and you get 10 lunar coins
tired axle
if you have a high win percentage you you will never need to farm coins, since mithrix gives you 10 and oblit gives you 5
foggy widget
you also get an adrenaline rush after beating mithrix
tired axle
The point is, lunar generally helps a run, does it not?
well, there are definitely some that help, but they are definitely not required
covert sentinel
Honestly, mithrix seems like a terrible fight to me. He only has 3 attacks, the uppercut that is impossible to react to makes it so that you always have to keep your distance---
And if you can get ontop of a pillar, you can cheese his 2nd phase completely
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And if you can get ontop of a pillar, you can cheese his 2nd phase completely
wait do you mean 3rd or 4th phase
tired axle
he can actually still hit you with the revolving doors
covert sentinel
i do not count the adds as a phase
foggy widget
cuz his 2nd phase is his cronies coming out
brave relic
yeah, the range on the revolving doors is infinite
so if you stay on a pillar or something you can get hit still
foggy widget
if you fight around the ramps the fight is a lot easier
tired axle
not infinite i believe, but definitely really high
foggy widget
also 
makes this fight a cinch
covert sentinel
I wish mithrix did not have that instant uppercut---and in exchange more bullet hell attacks like the cycle
When you compare him to a gungeon or isaac boss, he is kind of lame
brave relic
you just have to pay attention to his pattern
tired axle
he will always use the uppercut after a slam iirc
brave relic
after you do like 5-10 fights, memorizing the pattern and stuff, it's easy to know when you should attack or not
foggy widget
more like dark souls dodging
foggy widget
he will always use the uppercut after a slam iirc
isn't it before... ?
tired axle
maybe
brave relic
he can do both
he can do uppercut before, and after the slam
he can also do double slam and uppercut if I'm not mistaken
covert sentinel
The problem here is not that he is hard or anything. The problem is that he is lame
He does not have a massive amount of long combos like a darksouls3 boss would have
tired axle
he can also do double slam and uppercut if I'm not mistaken
he doesn't have 2 charges on either, so they wouldn't happen directly after another
covert sentinel
Or the bullet hell a gungeon/isaac boss would have
foggy widget
would you rather have mithrix use the tracking balls of doom like the lunar chimera instead of his spikes
serene badger
anyone have advice for the Artificer: Chunked! achievement
tired axle
slam has a 4s cooldown and uppercut is 5s, so he wouldn't be able to use them twice in quick succession
foggy widget
anyone have advice for the Artificer: Chunked! achievement
preon and artifact of glass
or glass and primordial cube
serene badger
that's what I thought thanks
brave relic
slam has a 4s cooldown and uppercut is 5s, so he wouldn't be able to use them tw...
sadge
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yeye
serene badger
also the Mercenary: Ethereal one I need help on
covert sentinel
I would like it he had more combos and attacks. Like, instead of that instant uppercut he can do from neutral, he can only chain into that after a slam. After the uppercut, he could do a telgeraph that follows with a groundshockwave you have to jump over or an aerial roundslash that hits everyone that is not grounded
All the while the explosions from the cycle attack keep happening
brave relic
also the Mercenary: Ethereal one I need help on
Cabbage is a youtuber that records himself doing Ethereal on every seed, he posts his videos on #prismatic-trials
also, barrier doesn't count as health, so stack that when you have the opportunity
tired axle
also, i don't think it's a good idea to compare mithrix to bosses from other games, it would be better to compare him to other ror2 bosses
covert sentinel
Suppose risk of rain 2 combat is not suited for 1vs1
Kind of sucks that following a hallway for 2 minutes followed by a mediocre at best boss followed by another 2 minutes of walking is waaay better for coins than looping
🧂
foggy widget
post this in #ror2-feedback-and-ideas i dare ya
covert sentinel
As if the devs would make drastic changes at this point
rotund breach
a way to skip the walking would make commencement significantly more fun
dull ingot
loader
but I understand your attitude toward having to walk miles before getting to fight mitchell
summer terrace
Kind of sucks that following a hallway for 2 minutes followed by a mediocre at b...
this dude said mediocre at best
mithrix fight rules
commencement is too long though for sure
dull ingot
what do you mean you don’t orgasm everytime mitchell tells you to Perish.
rotund breach
mithrix is cool
though i can't get on board with punishing the player for being strong in a roguelike
other than that, fun fight
summer terrace
phase 4 is a fuckin cakewalk
cobalt marsh
yes
rotund breach
yeah until you get a run with 3 tesla coils and then it's just like
welp guess i'm looping
cobalt marsh
Well yeah
cobalt marsh
melee character
dull ingot
die
fluid notch
just dodge
dull ingot
jokes aside, witty made a good point
Merc and Loader have enough mobility in their root skills to dash out of the coil’s zone, provided that the coil even activates in the first place
fluid notch
just don't pick up tesla coil ez
dull ingot
Acrid is a different story
cobalt marsh
Acrid melee...
fluid notch
meleecrid bestcrid
weary veldt
I don't think Merc could survive ~10 seconds of the Tesla Coil being active though.
tepid wolf
As said though merc has enough mobility to just dash away
topaz owl
Gd2 still sucking? Good
echo dagger
Oof. Yeah, melee survivors would definitely struggle with that a bit huh.
Acrid melee wouldn’t have any option whatsoever. Maybe he needs better mobility overall to help him.
tired axle
i mean, acrid has 2 charges for his leap, you can use one to get in after coil stops, and then use the other to get out
echo dagger
I’m mad I fucked up yesterday to try and get Bad Medicine completed. I died as I saw my first scavenger.
echo dagger
i mean, acrid has 2 charges for his leap, you can use one to get in after coil s...
Oh, and I meant that in general. Like to improve meleecrid. He can get out of the way, but not so much tank the damage nor dodge it though
tired axle
would help if regenerative actually worked how it's supposed to
but i don't think meleecrid should have that many defensive options, it's similar to saw mult where he has really high damage, but no survivability, basically high risk high reward
echo dagger
I suppose so. How much harder is saw mul-t to succeed in compared to the other abilities?
Also, what do you mean the way it’s supposed to? I thought it was always a flat 10%
tired axle
it actually heals 10%/s for 0.5s, meaning you only heal 5% of your health
tired axle
it might also just be the description being wrong, like for merc's rising thunder or preon accumulator
it would really help if it actually healed 10% tho
echo dagger
They do tend to be a bit vague— but I’m surprised it’s that bad. Especially with how rough Acrid can be melee
Yeah for sure. I dunno why they haven’y patched that.
tired axle
well, the problem often isn't them being vague, but rather just wrong. merc's rising thunder deals 550% instead of 450% and preon deals 8000% instead of 4000%, with the tendrils dealing 1200%/s instead of 600%/s
echo dagger
I haven’t unlocked his bite, but I’m not sure if him getting that would still be enough tbh.
Also I still find it annoying you have to do all 3 uninterrupted claw attacks in order for the health regen.
tired axle
nah, meleecrid with bite is already pretty good
echo dagger
well, the problem often isn't them being vague, but rather just wrong. merc's ri...
Oooof. Man did they just forget to update it during patches?
Ahh ok
tired axle
i'm honestly not sure, can't remember them ever changing preons damage in any patchnotes
echo dagger
I’ll have to try to get it this next time. I always lean towards melee with acrid but I have to resist cause I don’t have that unlocked yet
tired axle
good luck
echo dagger
More visions of heresy I guess
echo dagger
it actually heals 10%/s for 0.5s, meaning you only heal 5% of your health
Where did you find out this btw? Or just through testing?
echo dagger
Lol.
The wiki’s aren’t doing super great. And apparently outdated in a few ways
Wait which one do people use here the most? I’m assuming it’s one of the wikia ones
tired axle
the two wikis actually merged together, so there's only one now
and it's up to date on most things
echo dagger
They are? I still find links to both—
tired axle
only outdated thing i can think of are some of the values on the director page actually
echo dagger
Well I remember us talking about that lol
Though I guess I could also contribute to the wikis. Spruce them up a bit.
Also Regenerative doesn’t have the info in the wiki at all oops
tired axle
it shows it when you hover over it, but i honestly don't know how to even change that text
echo dagger
I can’t hover on mobile :b
Clicking it doesn’t do it either
Yeahhhh it needs a bit of work
tired axle
oh, that seems like a bit of a problem
echo dagger
Indeed
magic burrow
my checklist
mellow mango
Loader
tired axle
now add eclipse 8 and maao
fluid notch
yes
magic burrow
too early for that
fluid notch
plain briar
ALERT: This is now a #gd1-nullified hate thread.
All messages not pertaining to the hate of #gd1-nullified will be deleted
fluid notch
gd1 2 > gd2 > gd1
clever sapphire
i hate gd1
tired axle
gd1 bad
plain briar
All my homies hate gd1
brisk gale
gd 1 bad
strong elk
gd1 needs 2 git gud
merry karma
gd1
sturdy stag
gd1 is trash
severe chasm
Agreed
languid thistle
GD1 needs to be Obliterated
outer swallow
gd1 poor
peak flare
but what if gd3?
livid garnet
was just playing with some friends and we got the mithrix phase 4
we all died at the same time
brave relic
lmao
livid garnet
IM NOT EVEN MAD THAT HAPPENED THAT WAS HILARIOUS
(i am just a teeny tiny bit peeved that i didnt get referred to when i died, just "get styled upon lol xd" but it's still funny LMAO)
merry karma
fun
foggy widget
ooga
hushed pebble
does anyone know a good rex player that knows a lot of different strategies/info/theory that could be interviewed on a small channel?
mellow mango
nobody plays rex
brave relic
** r e a l **
cobalt marsh
*sad rex noises
brave relic
💧
summer terrace
I play rex :(
brave relic
well, you don't exist
dull ingot
sounds of rex mains perishing from existence
cobalt marsh
main?1?11??????@dull ingot
dull ingot
main?1?11??????<@456226577798135808>
yes, main, unhatted doggo brethren
A legacy lost to the dust, never to be heard again
brave relic
echo knoll
Since Monsoon 2.0 features music from a couple different songs from the first album, I decided, to see how bad it sounds, put clips together from the first album to try and recreate Monsoon 2.0
So far... it does in fact, sound really bad.
obsidian ermine
https://imgur.com/HLye49o
Kill the lizard
fluid notch
no
frosty aspen
Artificer, I hate her I hate her I hate her I hate her I hate her I hate her
Cool concept as a class but obliterating on monsoon has been absolute hell for me, both with and without artifact of command
frosty dirge
roles: artificer
fluid notch
ok
tepid wolf
Umm artificer is pretty solid though
If you use ion surge or ice spear though it makes her really bad
It literally took me one run to obliterate with her for example and she works well on eclipse
buoyant lynx
Ice Spear has execute, but let's be honest, if you want execute, you use Snapfreeze
tepid wolf
The lack of splash on it and like half the damage really hurts
Well the bomb has 2000% base damage but it also has the tendrils that hit for 400% damage
tender raft
I'd use ice spear if it didn't do so much less damage :(
tepid wolf
Ice spear is pretty good as long as the enemy can be frozen. But once a non-freezable enemy appears it does nothing
buoyant lynx
I nanobomb contraptions. I don't know why, I just do. Complete waste of the ability, but I hate them that much
tepid wolf
It's really not a waste
night drift
Based gd2
tired axle
game discussion 2
merry karma
burger.
autumn garnet
geometric dashasaltvine
unreal sundial
Reject #gd1-nullified return to #gd2-nullified
tired axle
gd2 good
zealous orchid
all hail #gd2-nullified
brisk gale
🙏
narrow gate
Which characters are stacking glasses better than daggers on?
brave relic
tired axle
anyone with a low firerate
narrow gate
That makes sense ty
muted sky
Oh, is stacking daggers better than glasses?
tired axle
on fast attacking survivors yes
quasi topaz
yo any tips for unlocking gesture?
muted sky
All I know is don’t get much aoe, use Rex maybe, get black hole, go to Titans whatever it’s called
tired axle
So Is it a 7dagger cap?
it depends on the attacks proc coefficient, captain's m1 needs 9, mult's nailgun needs 12, etc
outer swallow
yo any tips for unlocking gesture?
when you get to stage 6, hope it is titanic plains and just stay there for 10-20 mins, don't hit the teleporter and the hermit crabs keep spawning. Hit them lightly and chase them off the edge one at a time, try not to take proc chain items like ukulele or big damage like AtG.
quasi topaz
is there no enemy cap or smth?
outer swallow
enemies will keep spawning forever until you hit the teleporter and complete the stage
outer swallow
oh then I guess keep taking out all non essential guys (if we're talking about enemies at once)
pastel garden
There is a super late-game enemy cap where enemies first spawn as scavengers only, theb stop spawning at all due to some "game director" programming flaws, not sure the exact numbers though
outer swallow
I've been that far in when scavengers only spawn
tired axle
it isn't a programming flaw, but rather that the director credits get too high for the game to handle and then loop to a negative number, similar to what happens to the players money count on later stages
pastel garden
Yeah, that's more exact explanation, "flaw" was just the first word that came to my mind
zinc smelt
crude mortar
So anyone wanna play ror2 on ps4?
fluid notch
coral bobcat
Is there a really hidden stage 1 teleporter? i’ve been wandering around for nearly ten minutes and I swear it’s nowhere
mellow mango
which map?
coral bobcat
The one with the caves and tunnels
coral bobcat
I started at the top
I haven’t even seen the red sparks
merry karma
yes
coral bobcat
Been there
I don’t even think there are any chests left here jeez
Ok finally found it
buoyant lynx
Cool
coral bobcat
It was under the cliff on the far island it was just impossible to see the sparks up close because of the bright backdrop and that most of them were under view
Couldn’t see the drop the first two times I was there
Only saw it from really far away
Lol died to the Vagrant because there was no cover
fluid notch
roost is a good map
coral bobcat
Lmao Beetles with a bunch of Red Whips are genuinely scary
Scurrying like cockroaches on meth
But they’re only fast until they throw out an attack then they get tired lol
fluid notch
speebles
coral bobcat
I genuinely lost to a Beetle Swarm in the Void Fields
I was Captain and they had Red Whips and Dio’s so eventually there were just nine of them scurrying under me faster than I could get away and they kept punting me out of the safe zone 😆
I was not ready
night drift
beebles are cute
brave relic
but scavangers are cuter
merry karma
yes 
brave relic
frosty aspen
I did it finally
Obliterated on monsoon as artificer
Took like 7 runs
But this time I was actually off to a good start and things went smoothly
On stage 8 I accidentally hit the teleporter instead of going through the portal so I had to go for another 5 stages but I was able to manage
buoyant lynx
My first monsoon run with Arti ended in reaching a Moment, Whole, before nanobombing that one scavenger there
frosty aspen
I still don't know what the point of that is
buoyant lynx
Dunno, more lunar coins?
frosty aspen
Awesome
buoyant lynx
I mean, if you run mods, getting to a Moment, Whole is ||how you unlock the Paladin||
harsh scaffold
Doesn't the game give you 5 lunar coins when you obliterate?
Not quite. 5 for obliteration itself, 10 for Mithirix and beads of fealty gives you 10 from the Scavengers bag (so for multiple players you may need to divide it) and 5 for the obliteration itself for a total of 15.
high torrent
Took like 7 runs
hah, i bet i needed 10+ to get it right, was saved by 4 topazes, forgivemeplease and shaped glass
high torrent
Not quite. 5 for obliteration itself, 10 for Mithirix and beads of fealty gives ...
and minus 1-3 coins because you need beads first, did a lot of artifact hunt runs last two days, thought i could farm some lunar coins by killing twisted scavs, ended up losing even more lunar coins and never getting beads, i guess i would rather edit those game files
harsh scaffold
It's definitely way easier. But console players don't have a choice so we have to suffer through farming
tepid wolf
I think it's fine that that you actually have to earn them
Cheating in lunar coins basically just breaks the balance of the game and turns it into a joke
Oh and a good indirect way to farm lunar coins is doing eclipse (since you are forced to kill Mithrix anyway)
mossy garden
Cheating in lunar coins basically just breaks the balance of the game and turns ...
well thats the thing
i may have infinite coins but i dont use them every single run
i just hate how inconvenient it is to not have coins
tepid wolf
Honestly I wouldn't mind if file editing was removed, but that would require a lot of work for such a simple change
Oh and it's a bit dumb in multiplayer when people have infinite coins
mossy garden
yeah in quickplay its just dumb
i agree with woolie on that front
dont play quickplay if you have bitcoins
tepid wolf
I generally try to keep my coin count at around 100 (masteries and eclipse made those basically)
Because before those 2 I didn't have that many coins really
stable pelican
Honestly I wouldn't mind if file editing was removed, but that would require a l...
and people would figure it right back out
and it'd prolly fuck with all the mods
topaz owl
Trash
tired axle
ok
languid thistle
_>
hardy arrow
acrid gang
high shoal
Acrid rad
foggy widget
nimble valley
do most people play with command off?
foggy widget
not really sure actually
personally i use command when i'm unlocking stuff like artifacts and skills
buoyant lynx
I never use command cause I haven't gone after artifacts. Putting time into ranking up Eclipse
nimble valley
i hope they add some reward for doing eclipse, cuz otherwise its just wasted content to me
foggy widget
you should've seen #ror2-feedback-discussion 10 minutes earlier sai
buoyant lynx
No, it's just uh
tired axle
we kinda just agreed to dissagree i guess
foggy widget
^
languid yarrow
oh people needing rewards for things lol
foggy widget
yeah
languid yarrow
🤷 kinda silly IMO
languid yarrow
I wonder if those people play games after they get all the achievements?
foggy widget
lol
azure mortar
haven’t the devs said that they won’t put a prize for beating eclipse
because eclipse is stupidly unfair and people would expect something from it
languid yarrow
yep. a reward is indicative of balance
foggy widget
also elitism
languid yarrow
and also you could just change a value on PC and get it lol
azure mortar
I mean if they put a reward only really good players would get it
foggy widget
there's enough of it going around with monsoon vs rainstorm
azure mortar
they’d lose a ton of people
high shoal
rainstorm stinky because not epic gamer difficulty :cccccccc
nimble valley
wait, so there would be a downside to adding a reward to eclipse?
azure mortar
there's enough of it going around with monsoon vs rainstorm
tbh I play drizzle some times because some times I just want to play the game without very much risk, yeah people can call me a drizzlet and I do acknowledge that but at least I’m not like a die hard advocate for one game mode
high shoal
yeah
azure mortar
wait, so there would be a downside to adding a reward to eclipse?
yep
high shoal
It would be based for better players with like years of experience
azure mortar
tbh I play drizzle some times because some times I just want to play the game wi...
adding on to this, I say just let people play how they want to play
nimble valley
It would be based for better players with like years of experience
how is that a downside?
buoyant lynx
how is that a downside?
Adding rewards to eclipse would make people feel obligated to do eclipse
foggy widget
because you'd get people beating eclipse when other people can't do it and promote elitism
azure mortar
adding on to this, I say just let people play how they want to play
except for people who play drizzle command sacrifice swarms and complain about mithrix being too hard and want the devs to nerf him
buoyant lynx
Even if they really don't want to
high shoal
this game would run off all the new people
languid yarrow
Not so much a downside, as much as it would be setting an expectation for balance that probably isn't worth it
It's easier to make the mode just hard as fuck for the fun of it than to make it balanced AND difficult
nimble valley
this game would run off all the new people
i dont understand, why would that happen?
languid yarrow
And again, people on PC would just be able to edit a text file to get the reward, rendering it pretty meaningless anyways as a show of skill
tepid wolf
The only really hard challenge in the game is mercenary's ethereal but honestly that is easier than completing eclipse
azure mortar
i dont understand, why would that happen?
because the game mode is stupidly hard
it’s meant to be unfair and if there’s a reward people will think that it’s not
nimble valley
it’s meant to be unfair and if there’s a reward people will think that it’s not
couldnt that be remedied by simply having a disclaimer of some sort?
foggy widget
would a disclaimer prevent this from happening? probably not
tepid wolf
Locking a reward behind eclipse would be dumb
azure mortar
couldnt that be remedied by simply having a disclaimer of some sort?
yeah that could fix it but people don’t always read stuff e.g. fine print
tepid wolf
It's a massive time investement to even complete one character
tepid wolf
Except some people disliking the fabled super ez mode combo of command, swarms, sacrifice on dritzzle not really
But another reason of that disliking is the fact how easily a new player can access those with a simple google search.
buoyant lynx
The RoR2 wiki ||contains every artifact code too...||
tepid wolf
And well artifacts are generally well hidden (and probably not intended for such new players)
nimble valley
i would rather have more content than less, so i think thats where my pov is coming from. people are always going to react in different ways no matter what they put into the game.
tepid wolf
Well eclipse rewards would be a bad idea. Like it is just a fun optional challenge.
buoyant lynx
Most I can think of as a reward for Eclipse without creating a sense of obligation is a nice shiny badge on the character select screen for the character, but that rounds back to bragging rights
foggy widget
it's literally there just to be hard
tepid wolf
Which is fine
nimble valley
dont people already brag about stuff anyway though?? people who brag to purposefully make others feel bad or "not good enough" are always gonna do that regardless of content, cuz thats just how they are, unfortunately.
foggy widget
then wouldn't adding skins behind eclipse make the bragging worse?
that would drive off a lot of potential new players or even just cut off the ones already playing
autumn cipher
idk i want something for eclipse so that i feel like i have to do it and not that im only doing it cause im bored, gives you more purpose
tepid wolf
But having to do it would feel even worse
foggy widget
i guess it's up to the devs then
tepid wolf
It's like 8 minimum 30-50 minute runs per character
foggy widget
i feel like the devs know this problem exists, the same applies with prismatic trials
autumn cipher
yeah but lets be real almost nobody does trials for anything other than merc
foggy widget
the top 10% will be awarded literally nothing for now
the only people playing prismatic are for merc and getting a speedrun record
autumn cipher
yep
foggy widget
or they genuinely enjoy prismatic
tepid wolf
Also if you check eclipse reward suggestions they usually get shut down
autumn cipher
eclipse fan vs prismatic trial enjoyer
nimble valley
lol
buoyant lynx
Nobody plays Prismatic except for merc and unlocking scythe
foggy widget
i think eclipse is in a tougher spot for debate than prismatic largely because of the time investment, like Duke said
buoyant lynx
And maybe speedrunning
tepid wolf
Like people don't want eclipse rewards.
Like even ethereal is a smaller time investement
nimble valley
i am people and i want an eclipse reward, and i think a skin makes perfect sense because monsoon has that
autumn cipher
not a skin, something smaller
buoyant lynx
A badge
foggy widget
feeling forced to do something as hard as eclipse is the worst feeling possible, which gets worsened by an incentive imo
tepid wolf
But a monsoon skin doesn't take 4 hours minimum
buoyant lynx
On the character selection screen.
foggy widget
a badge would be nice
autumn cipher
like a badge or a rainbow name
buoyant lynx
A skin is a bit much.
tepid wolf
As said it would need to be something extremely small at most
Like eclipse being forced on you would kind of suck
nimble valley
how would it be forced?
buoyant lynx
Bing obligated to do eclipse because you saw your main has a cool skin for reaching e8 with it is uh... Yeah, especially if you don't want to go through that pain
buoyant lynx
Yeah, we're saying like a badge or little name color
tepid wolf
Like even character skins would be really annoying
Like current eclipse takes 40 hours minimum on all characters if you get only 30 minute runs and never die
buoyant lynx
I'd like it to be a small cosmetic change to the default and mastery skins. Like, rather than a whole new skin, a badge with your current eclipse level appears somewhere on the skin. You don't need it, but it's there
nimble valley
mmmm, that would be cool
buoyant lynx
Yeah, it's not something you need to go for to unlock, it's not an entirely new item or skin, and it's just a very minor aesthetic change. Perfect
nimble valley
i really wanna see the game have more official skins cuz i like the way they design stuff
buoyant lynx
Eh... I think the Mastery skins are fine as they are.
foggy widget
more skins in general would be very cool
tepid wolf
Some of the skins are just recolours though
nimble valley
thats fine
nimble valley
yeah
foggy widget
so does mando
tepid wolf
I like the huntress skin but in reality it's just a colour swap
foggy widget
if they added floof pads to huntress's shoulders like an eskimo that would be lit
buoyant lynx
I want to make the joke about instead of adding new skins, they could add clothing items.
outer swallow
that could be cool, I always thought the items were good cosmetics though so I guess there isn't a big need for clothes
buoyant lynx
Like a nice new overcoat for Captain
weary shoal
yo I got a game goin without any people. wana spice it up?
dammm nobody joined and I died somehow lol
hybrid vine
people should be rewarded for beating eclipse IMO its not something everyone will play
fluid notch
Ok
nimble valley
there are a bunch of people that wont play it because there isnt anything to earn
buoyant lynx
Like I said earlier, that badge would be nice
odd badge
just something that says “hey, i beat eclipse” it doesn’t need to be an item or anything
buoyant lynx
Yeah, a badge that is displayed on the character somewhere. Not a new skin, not an item, just a minor cosmetic tweak to the character model
fluid notch
Ok
pine iris
death
uncut gulch
is this game fun as a solo player?
buoyant lynx
It's one of those games that's perfectly fine solo, but gets better when you get some friends together
uncut gulch
thanks!
dim orbit
With friends tho not with randoms
night drift
With friends tho not with randoms
important to note this
buoyant lynx
As with most co-ops, never play with randoms. Ever.
brisk gale
/quickplay,never do that,learn that the hard way
buoyant lynx
Haha, wait till you do syzygy
buoyant lynx
It's possible to beat
But like, it's effectively giving someone the finger as a gamemode
It adds every Eclipse modifier and Diluvian modifier
As well as increasing the difficulty scaling by 80%
zenith sequoia
I was more talking about you not being able to move
Like is Loader the only it's possible with
zenith sequoia
wildin, serves its purpose tho
fluid notch
You have to unlock syzyzgy to play it
zenith sequoia
not really
buoyant lynx
Unlocked by beating Diluvian
zenith sequoia
theres like that mod that unlocks everything
buoyant lynx
There's 2 mods that do that
zenith sequoia
ye
buoyant lynx
One is only for unlocking everything, the other is RoRCheats
fluid notch
I don't know if that works with modded stuff
buoyant lynx
I think it works with mods, but some mods offer a force unlock option in their config, namely character mods
Fuck, another vid spammer
dull ingot
hello i've got a question
You can ask it over in #ror2-game-questions , your question will get resolved much faster than asking it in the discussions tabs.
@twilit gyro Seems like it is resolved! But please keep it in mind next time you have more questions.
twilit gyro
ok, thank you
sly saffron
Has anyone seen enforcer?
fluid notch
What
outer swallow
nobody has seen enforcer
high torrent
celebrating first eclipse win, i swear those 6 polyps took like half mithrix's hp, lul
tropic oasis
How did you activate them?
high torrent
How did you activate them?
just joking, i activated them via broken drones that mithrix shot down, but big boy instakilled them, i just had no other green soup and 12 white scrap
they saved me on the stage one though, i had nothing but 2x polyp and 2x fresh meat (=whitescrap), i left a lot chests and barrels near the teleporter and then the run was set
tropic oasis
Nice
solid lake
finally, an acceptable use for polyps
using them as bait for mithrix to mash into the ground while you do the damage
narrow gate
Gd2 😩
mossy garden
👌 😩 💯
night drift
GD2 be like:
high shoal
gd2
tribal mauve
gd2 😳
fluid notch
gd2
high shoal
when
distant rock
playing monsoon vanilla with mithrix at the end if anyones down
sonic nebula
you might have better luck over in the LFG category
distant rock
true im new to this discord server, thanks
fluid notch
Huntress
nimble valley
do elite enemies give more gold?
mellow mango
yes
nimble valley
sick
mellow mango
elites from artifact of honor do not though
nimble valley
sicko
foggy widget
gd2
high shoal
gd2
brisk gale
gd 2 good
high shoal
gdgd 12
balmy fractal
I just wanna say drones need an update
high shoal
yes
merry karma
gd2
main barn
Is it bad that I cant get past monsoon imp overlord with huntress?
brisk gale
not at all
plush gorge
Anyone wanna play
tranquil kiln
uh
if you get soft locked by sending a golem super far out of the map
how do you break said soft lock
late karma
hi
tired axle
hello
hardy arrow
aloha
tired axle
so anyways, i think we can all agree that loader
hardy arrow
how are you doing
late karma
how are you doing
good
late karma
hope it will last for a long time
ok cool
late karma
thats nice to hear
i am looking to play with someone
late karma
ok thanks
tired axle
yeah, it's pretty cool if you don't want to play with randoms
tired axle
well, the people in this discord are a lot nicer than the randoms you get through the ingame browser, at least in my experience
hardy arrow
well yea, usually discord servers of most games have adequate people overall
hardy arrow
i swear, shrine of chance is evil
my gambling addiction is waking up each time i see it
brisk gale
how to not die
fluid notch
Dodge
brisk gale
how to dodge
fluid notch
Move away from enemy attacks
hardy arrow
dont get hit
high shoal
how to not get hit
tired axle
dodge
high shoal
how to dodge
tired axle
don't get hit
high shoal
how to not get hit
tired axle
dodge
high shoal
how dodge
tired axle
don't get hit
high shoal
how not get hit
tired axle
dodge
high shoal
how dodge
tired axle
don't get hit
high shoal
how not get hit
tired axle
dodge
high shoal
how dodge
tired axle
don't get hit
high shoal
how not get hit
mossy garden
this is just gonna continue until the universe implodes
tired axle
dodge
high shoal
how dodge
tired axle
don't get hit
high shoal
how not get hit
tired axle
dodge
high shoal
how dodge
tired axle
don't get hit
high shoal
I’m gonna stop doing this now
tired axle
shame
high shoal
:c
hardy arrow
place it in archive or something and continue
warm bridge
Hi, I’m a lurker who plays a lot of eclipse. I was wondering if anyone here knows how Corpsebloom interacts with the lowered healing effect of Eclipse 5. The Eclipse 5 effect appears to halve the maximum healing per tic of corpsebloom and it makes me worried that the eclipse effect is being triggered twice making corpsebloom useless: once on whatever item is triggering a heal and once when the corpsebloom applies the delay.
tired axle
it's useless
basically, it interacts the same way rejuv rack does, but instead of doubling the healing twice, it halves it twice
warm bridge
Aw. Thanks though. I only wondered this after a run or I’d have tried testing myself
tired axle
so you end up healing the same amount, but have that 10%hp/s cap
sand garden
do yall think that ror2 can run on a HP Pavilion x360 if all the graphics and stuff were lowered?
buoyant lynx
Possibly. The requirements for RoR2 are already fairly low in the first place
merry karma
intel integrated graphics
at super low resolutions like 320x200 and lowest graphical settings you're gonna have a smooth 60fps but at anything higher than that probably pretty bad
unreadable text, invisible crosshair but at least 60fps
sand garden
my other concern is that if I do get it, if I get a long run, if the game will freeze because there is so much going on
buoyant lynx
Probably will, just do maybe 1 or 2 loops at most
warm bridge
If your computer is mediocre but your internet is good I’ve had success with the Stadia version of ror2, which you can get on a $10 discount if it’s your first stadia game
sand garden
oof
Would anyone be able to send a pic of what low graphics and a 320x200 screen res look like?
buoyant lynx
That is better than some low-graphic setting games I've played
merry karma
if you cant lower the resolution go to Steam\steamapps\common\Risk of Rain 2\Risk of Rain 2_Data\Config and edit the config.cfg's resolution setting
first value is width, second is height and third is refresh rate
merry karma
you can still go lower
sand garden
omg
tired axle
you can go lower than that?
merry karma
yes
tired axle
what would that even look like?
tired axle
oh god
buoyant lynx
Jesus
sand garden
lmfao
merry karma
80x50 still playable
tired axle
oh no
merry karma
title screen
sand garden
what do the items look like, lol
tired axle
lmfao
sand garden
oh my
buoyant lynx
That looks like the standard galactic alphabet (Or I guess more popularly known as Enchantment Table) lmfao
ember temple
THE TITLE LMFAOOOO
tired axle
can ya go to like 16x10
merry karma
mellow mango
the gameplay
merry karma
i'd say 1x1 is unplayable
mellow mango
uhh just dodge
buoyant lynx
yes, just dodge
merry karma
i literally cant navigate the menus because escape doesnt work hopoo games why
autumn cipher
damn loving the new ios risk of rain 2 support
merry karma
slightly stretched menu 1920x20
sand garden
just a little bit
tired axle
oh god
buoyant lynx
tiny lil bit
high shoal
high shoal
longe
merry karma
last one sorry for spam
buoyant lynx
slightly stretched menus
tired axle
oh god why
fluid notch
Gamer
buoyant lynx
oh god why
Because why not?
high shoal
long
mossy garden
okay but the ability cooldown timers look pretty sick ngl
grim briar
agreed
wispy socket
dull ingot
best items for acrid??
high shoal
tri tip I think
grim briar
best items for acrid??
if you want more range projectiles, run backup mags
in general focus crystals are the best item
seeing as he is a most melee class
dull ingot
ooh thx
buoyant lynx
He plays more like a ranged class with a melee option though tbh
brave relic
meleecrid vibing with his 20 focus crystal capped bleed, crit, with 5 backup mags and blight
grim briar
perhaps
sly vessel
Backup mags are epic, bandoliers are also epic for epidemic spam, brainstalks is op
Tri tip is good if you have poison ig
Also shaped glass, focus crystals, and AP rounds are especially good on acrid cause they affect his DoTs
tepid wolf
Shaped glass is far better on blight
tepid wolf
Also tonic is nuts on melee acrid
cyan sky
do yall like eviscerate or slicing wind more for merc?
mellow mango
slicing winds is better at optimal play
but evis can be safer for players newer to the character
warm inlet
evis lets you meme glass and purity and get iframes for years
imagine high skill play with u can mash 1 butten
fluid notch
No
deep osprey
if one person played like a god, is every vanilla monsoon run mithrix possible?
fluid notch
What
deep osprey
is every monsoon run winnable? (kill mithrix)
fluid notch
Yes
buoyant lynx
What makes you think it's not winnable?
deep osprey
that's awesome - i'm far from that but maybe one day i'll be good enough to just pop artifact of metamorphosis and just do monsoon runs
my lack of skill made me think that it's impossible to win every run
buoyant lynx
Fair
deep osprey
damn i suck as artificer but this is fun lol
fierce epoch
?????????
high shoal
mods, poopoo, peepee
hybrid vine
do yall like eviscerate or slicing wind more for merc?
theres no set answer for this because it comes down to item build if anything. its been an equal number of times where i thought to myself: "damn i wish i had slicing winds/eviscerate instead".
narrow gate
Artificer mvp cause 1 shot wisps from far away stage 1
plain briar
keen wind
I agree with Pyronomy.
deep osprey
for normal runs, do people bother with the gilded coast? just went there for the first time while playing artificer and it was over before it begun lol
mellow mango
its 4 free items, so if you see it in the bazaar as a seer it is worth it
but usually not worth farming for the gold shrines
deep osprey
it's my first time ever going into one - do the bosses drop the items in there?
i'll just look up the wiki entry :p
keen wind
Aurelionite drops his husk that allows you to summon him during teleporter events.
That's all I know.
hybrid vine
4 items + aurelionite; go if you want him really. recommended a lot if you're looping as he can tank some early bullshit burst in later stages if you are fast enough
deep osprey
i don't remember - does time progress while you're in the gilded coast? i died before i can check lol
hybrid vine
no
keen wind
If you're not in any stages where there is a teleporter, time is frozen.
That's my experience though.
silk spoke
name a survivor
tired axle
missile drone
buoyant lynx
Void Reaver
silk spoke
yes
brisk gale
name a survivor
pyro
tired axle
pyro tf2 yes
silk spoke
guess i'l play mul T or something
buoyant lynx
hey guys pyro here
brisk gale
did i say its from tf 2?
merry karma
pyro tf2
tepid wolf
Artificer is basically the pyro
mossy garden
Artificer is basically the pyro
unless you take plasma bolt/ion surge 
limber radish
loader is just mannpower demoknight but good
tepid wolf
It just seems that a lot of the tf2 community is in ROR2
hybrid vine
meet the engineer
tepid wolf
Like the character dances are literally a reference to a gmod machimina
mossy garden
i mean, Nemforcer's log is, and I quote:
"Heavy tf2"
limber radish
but mul-t can actually have decent movement
mossy garden
Captain would be spy, no?
tepid wolf
Loader's punch is basically a backstab
mossy garden
true
tepid wolf
Scrap launcher mul-t is soldier (even has the same clip size)
mossy garden
also Loader has the shock thingy
tepid wolf
Rebar mul-t is sniper
mossy garden
like Spy's anti machine thing i forgot the name
tepid wolf
Sapper
tepid wolf
Saw mul-t is also demoknight
Charges at enemies with the utility to then use melee
But himself
Captain with healing beacons
mossy garden
Captain is a German 😳 😳 😳
he has the chad posture for it
all that beer and sausage does good for a man
Bandit could be spy
tepid wolf
Huntress is scout
merry karma
limber radish
well, yes, you're right
gusty hazel
smashing some eclispe
fluid notch
ok
tropic oasis
How does resonance disk work it seems to be quite weird
dull ingot
you charge a projectile with every kill
tropic oasis
I know it works by killing enemies but when it actives is weird
dull ingot
oh
polar anvil
its a hard formula
dull ingot
it fires, explodes, and goes back to you, iirc
brave relic
it throws a disc that explodes on contact
the explosion and the disc itself does damage
and it comes back to you, dealing damage once again
plain briar
what procs it to discharge?
fluid notch
killing things
tired axle
killing things increases spin, which slowly decreases over time. spin generates charge depending on how much spin ya have; charge does not decay over time. when charge reaches 100% it fires.
oh, and killing things in quick succession will give you more spin
plain briar
but killing something is the ultimate trigger to launch the disc?
so, in theory, disc could launch as soon as you've killed the last mob
tired axle
no, it launches by itself
plain briar
weird
lavish crane
first run of the day
tired axle
nice
lavish crane
also i am new to the game so im unlocking most of the things
and i forgot to take a picture of what i unlocked. kinda cringe
lavish crane
ok
brave relic
unreal sundial
hardy arrow
hard choice
fluid notch
yes
night drift
hard choice
One expensive lily
hardy arrow
stage 4 after all
high shoal
how dodge
fluid notch
don't get hit
night drift
Yes
buoyant lynx
Truly amazing.
high shoal
how not get hit
buoyant lynx
move
high shoal
how move
buoyant lynx
hit wasd
buoyant lynx
w a s d
high shoal
how hit
buoyant lynx
right cleeck
high shoal
how right Cleveland
night drift
Detroit
high shoal
how Detroit
night drift
Move
high shoal
how move
brave relic
high shoal
how wasd
high shoal
how dsaw
night drift
high shoal
how
muted sky
high shoal
how
muted sky
merry karma
gusty hazel
slowly but steady
high shoal
how
gusty hazel
oh just playing the game 
rotund breach
this was a really fun run
one of those runs where you just obliterate enemies and you're not sure why but it sure is enjoyable
didn't actually use focused convergence though i just picked it up on the moon
cloud jasper
i may suck at this game but that doesnt mean rng cant bless me every once and a while
rotund breach
...in fact, I keep looking at this build and i'm still not sure why it did such massive damage
frail jasper
gg
rotund breach
is it the high crit
even without res disc charges i was popping lunar chimeras in a second or two
frail jasper
Behemoth and focus cristal might've been for something in this
rotund breach
focus crystal i got on commencement, it helped but i was wrecking before then
frail jasper
Molten perforator do be powerful
frail jasper
With eviscerate you must've procced it often
And the crit too indeed
Runald's band too for the proc chain
bright sinew
muted sky
UES=mithrix hammer confirmed
high shoal
maybe you go on the ship
brave relic
new gamemode you get to explore other planets
high shoal
oh shit yea
merry karma
also ror2 2nd year anniversary on Content Update March
brave relic
hope we know what the theme of the DLC will be in the future
fluid notch
cum]
autumn cipher
cum update march
high shoal
cum?
errant crane
muted sky
Just heal
fluid notch
just dodge
muted sky
That too