Tf is that mod
#gd2-nullified
high shoal
fluid notch
moisture upset
crimson garden
One of my casual runs gave me three dios stage 4. A large chest, a small, and a chance shrine
restive obsidian
noooo why do we have to kill nyan cat
pearl mantle
One of my casual runs gave me three dios stage 4. A large chest, a small, and a ...
:EngiPog:
unreal sundial
Who made moisture upset? This is the greatest extended shitpost I've ever seen
I think I've found all the enemies except twisted scav, nobody tell me what it is
sand abyss
Whatever its called
fluid notch
triangles
nocturne patio
Don’t get hit
half mason
203.1 HOURS IN, I'VE FINALLY UNLOCKED THE MOST OP ITEM IN THE GAME
why did the achievement to unlock this have to be so goddamn annoying?
nocturne patio
why not make it challenging
neon garnet
Sounds more annoying than challenging.
half mason
^
brisk gale
how long have you been trying to get that??
patent pumice
demons and the crabs is easy if you just loop to Titanic Plains and just farm there with a primordial cube
halcyon pulsar
Command on Drizzle, go to bazaar, select plains, primordial cube. Make sure you have no ATGs, Fireworks, Ukuleles, Razorwire, Ceremonial Daggers, or any other AOE/damaging on kill effects.
pastel garden
I remember completing it with prismatic trials
Titanic plains as second level with built-in crab spawn
mossy garden
Command on Drizzle, go to bazaar, select plains, primordial cube. Make sure you ...
meh, a Loader m1 usually doesnt kill even with an ATG and cube doesnt do damage anyway
halcyon pulsar
No, you take primordial cube to drag off the hermit crabs.
mossy garden
yes?
halcyon pulsar
Oh, I thought that you thought I said to not take cube lol.
dull ingot
I broke ror2
terse stirrup
thats what youre supposed to do
brazen jackal
I never used the cube, it was just more fun a and convenient to chase them off the edge
Plus I unlocked it before artifacts were added so I couldn’t choose a cube
meager oak
can someone play with me
tired axle
summer terrace
shut the fuck up little kid 😎
tepid wolf
Is that someone that got banned from this Discord or something?
summer terrace
who cares
tepid wolf
I tried to find some discussion about that and there is none, so I guess nobody cares about it really
dull ingot
lmao
half mason
TIL: Happiest mask can affect the umbra from vengance
tired axle
it can even affect yourself
half mason
neat
tired axle
so if you have a dios and kill yourself with glowing meteorite you have a 15% chance to spawn a ghost
half mason
*7%
tired axle
right
trim cradle
Now what I want to see is Mithrix using happiest mask to make ghosts of players.
tired axle
i know that works with doppelgängers
old terrace
TIL: Happiest mask can affect the umbra from vengance
bruh
Monsoon is too hard, how do I git good?
trim cradle
One moment, skipping to the final stage and spawning a million dio's.
tired axle
Monsoon is too hard, how do I git good?
keep playing until you stop dying
also try to not waste any time floating money, if you run out of chests go to the tele
you can get away with full clearing stages like this
old terrace
aight thanks
half mason
another thing that is cool about happiest mask, enemies spawned by ghosts are friendly (and aren't ghosts) meaning that malachites are fairly useful as ghost meatshields, and beetle queens make you a massive army of beetles
sudden cove
Bread mad angry
tired axle
or you just get like 3 items on the first 3 stages and then start full clearing from stage 4 onward since those can have green multi shops
trim cradle
One moment, skipping to the final stage and spawning a million dio's.
I keep trying to die to Mithrix to spawn more of them, but the ghosts keep killing me faster because Captain is OP. Should've given Mithrix more items, I guess.
trim cradle
It's the same image.
sudden cove
What if providence come back
fluid notch
no
sudden cove
Y
fluid notch
he ded
old terrace
Their little sister
sudden cove
Right
tawny plaza
so if you have a dios and kill yourself with glowing meteorite you have a 15% ch...
This but if it procs, you play Ror2 as an invincible ghost that dies within 30 seconds if you cant always heal
tired axle
that would be really cool
trim cradle
same energy tbh
Oops.
honest dragon
so sad steve jobs deid of ligma
trim cradle
Anyway now that hour-long photoshop adventure is done, have a screenshot of Mithrix & The Boys.
honest dragon
wow
trim cradle
Kinda just gave up on trying to summon more and killed Mithrix, maybe I'll try again but spawn some better items for him so he can actually deal the finishing blow more often.
tranquil kiln
is there a way to guarantee a celestial portal spawn
tranquil kiln
trying to do the obliterate before 25 mins challenge on loader and i thought celestial was guaranteed on 7
dull ingot
on the third stage
tranquil kiln
go to bazaar between time
jump off the ledge you spawn on
land in the mine shaft
go to the purple portal
trim cradle
You might've heard that it was guaranteed on 7 back before sky meadow was added, because that was true.
trim cradle
It's always on stage 3 on any loop but the first. So it was 7, but now it's 8.
tranquil kiln
ah okay
my friend said it was guaranteed 7 and random after that
thx for the clarification
also am i crazy or does the AI for the walking turrets feel NOTICEABLY worse than engie's regular turrets
summer terrace
I prefer them but yeah the ai could use work
wish they'd space better and sprint more
trim cradle
I don't know, AI movement just feels... meh in general. You probably aren't noticing any issues with the stationary ones since it's really only movement that the AI struggles with.
tranquil kiln
i feel like they position themselves really shittily and swap targets at random
dull ingot
go to the purple portal
thanks
tranquil kiln
the moving ones feel more fun bc bungus cheese isn't as broken on them and idk i like the little marching death lasers
trim cradle
Yep, that's the AI for ya. Turrets swapping targets at random may be annoying, but have you ever started wailing on a stone titan because it's aiming its beam at someone else but the moment it starts firing it's suddenly attacking you with no warning?
tranquil kiln
yeah i've had it randomly flick to me and BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOW on me
trim cradle
Just Risk of Rain 2 AI things.
somber island
I mean, if the mobile turrets get enough ms they'll start strafing and kiting and it's kinda funny
although they kite a little too close to most enemies
dull ingot
i just found out how fun mods are
brave relic
3 of them
dull ingot
4
stuck summit
When I play multiplayer why is it different?
dull ingot
One of the mods adds an item that upgrades one of your skills so i can have 4 turrets
dull ingot
actually 6
tranquil kiln
also idk i feel like the moving turrets are weaker early game
dull ingot
idk
dull ingot
i prefer them because i think the not moving ones are boring
brave relic
also idk i feel like the moving turrets are weaker early game
it's prob because their AI are not the best
also they have a bit of cooldown on their laser
tranquil kiln
i'm also not good enough to use the harpoons over the shield lmao i misposition way too much early
dull ingot
time for void fields after loop
brave relic
so they're a bit more chaotic on the start
while the stationary turrets, they just stay still, shooting what's nearby, no chaos
tranquil kiln
though honestly i feel like shield might be better on engie bc i don't really find engie lacking in dmg
unless your turrets are down, but if they're down you're fucked regardless
dull ingot
I love the moving turrets when they have double jump and wax quail
they keep jumping around
trim cradle
I take harpoons because I like being able to actually shoot stuff. His bouncy grenades have never worked in 3D.
summer terrace
nades hit hard tho
brave relic
I take harpoons because I like damage
tired axle
nades hit hard tho
eh, not really
tranquil kiln
engie's m1 is feelsbad
but i don't really lack damage most of the game tbh even on monsoon
brave relic
m1 with gorag's opus is pog
dull ingot
If would be cool if engineer had an alt m1
dull ingot
possibly
summer terrace
eh, not really
what the damage on it
tired axle
307%dps if charged fully
trim cradle
Well... visions. Pretty much a must-take as engie.
dull ingot
Why do people not like pot plant?
brave relic
he's boring, and I'm not good with him either
tranquil kiln
also is crit better or bleed better? ik it used to be crit but since bleed stacks and refreshes bleed seems more nuts early
tired axle
hell, crit can heal with scythes
trim cradle
Don't you need a lot of bleed for it to get good, meanwhile crits are always just +10% damage overall?
tranquil kiln
imagine having harvester's unlocked : (
dull ingot
But you can get bleeds with crits tho
trim cradle
So I'd say crits.
dull ingot
so you really don't need to pick
tired axle
also more attackspeed through predatory
dull ingot
Bleed on captain be like
tired axle
bleed is def more damage in early game if you have good procs per second, crit is good on pretty much every one at any time in the game
tired axle
Bleed on captain be like
nailgun stacks it faster actually
dull ingot
huh
tranquil kiln
if you get max bleed yeah
dull ingot
i don't really play as mul-t
tranquil kiln
but that's a LOT of daggers lol
tired axle
unless if you do the cap cancel of course
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901542787055636/797819408713121792/optimalgameplay21.gif
brave relic
dull ingot
it would be great to play modder ror2 online
trim cradle
Well then do it.
brave relic
yeah you can do it
dull ingot
i have no friends :)
tired axle
...How do you do it?
by pressing m1 - r - m1 while looking at the sky - ctrl while walking forward - repeat if you look at the ground or sometimes even a wall during the second m1 press it will place the beacon and break the chain
trim cradle
dull ingot
I know
trim cradle
Huh... I'll definitely have to try that at some point just for the hell of it.
tired axle
it's pretty funny, and if you are able to press buttons 60 times per second you can shoot once every 4 frames for up to 14400%dps
summer terrace
only 3
tired axle
it needs a proc coef to proc bands, bleed is a debuff and therefor has a proc coef of 0
tranquil kiln
ah okay]
summer terrace
it needs a proc coef to proc bands, bleed is a debuff and therefor has a proc co...
they're talking aboyt red daggers
fluid notch
huh would bleed proc em too then/
.
tired axle
i thought they were asking if bleed could proc bands
are you sure they weren't asking about that?
dull ingot
First modded win
fluid notch
ok
mossy garden
define those
dull ingot
oh yeah
mossy garden
it just means more different ones
so it looks like more but he got a lot of different items
and lower stacks
old terrace
Well fuck me I guess
unreal sundial
Boing
high shoal
Elite mushrums are super buff
summer terrace
havel
calm osprey
Anybody play on Playstation?
fluid notch
yes
small aurora
isn’t sundered grove now on all platforms tho?
fluid notch
it's not on console
small aurora
oh
forest sandal
killed mythrix with 5 shaped glasses
fluid notch
ok
unreal sundial
ok
dull ingot
ok
left pelican
Just reached moon for the first time and feeling like it was a buzzkill from the rest of the game’s momentum. I’m kinda new so someone convince me to stick with it lol. Better if I skip that stage and just continue the run?
finite bay
buzzkill?
left pelican
Loss of momentum
finite bay
I mean it's meant to be the final stage my man
left pelican
Just kinda boring?
finite bay
personally it has my favorite bit of music
and it's not exactly supposed to be high-octane
left pelican
Oh yeah the music is great I agree on that
finite bay
the whole point of the stage is to be your final challenge
last leg of the journey type beat
left pelican
Yeah I get that, just feels like a janky level to me. Loving the rest of the game. Maybe I’ll just play the loop without it until i get good enough to beat it once and unlock the character haha
dapper osprey
To be fair I just don't like the level design. May as well just make the path to Yoinkboi straight, with the paths to the shop and Lunar Buds actually be paths and not "we hope you know the ramp exploit to get back up". More enemies wouldn't exactly hurt either.
warped mesa
Yeah I get that, just feels like a janky level to me. Loving the rest of the gam...
lmao why does the shortest and most linear level in the game make you so mad?
it's literally like 5 min
zinc kernel
5 minutes of walking
zinc kernel
I mean it doesn't
but it would be nice if the final stage was actually a bit more fun
zinc kernel
I mean commencement is supposed to be barren and the land of nothing
yet there's like a big bridge and that room and those lunar and soup islands
warped mesa
yea
zinc kernel
which feels inconsistant
warped mesa
i think they should have gone all in and just taken out the enemies
zinc kernel
it would make more sense imo if it was more like a barren wasteland with the soups and pods spread out across the map
instead of a bridge
that just farts all of the interactables at the end
warped mesa
or the bridge could be destroyed during the detonation
slow condor
ah yes, falls apart as the timer passes
that would be even more fun if you have no mobility
🙂
tepid wolf
And it is several minutes of walking against a bunch of the same enemies
Oh and said enemies can often just be ignored
rugged kayak
@warped mesa when you have a list and every box is checked except one, people will focus on the one that's unchecked. that's just how people think.
commencement definitely taints my risk of rain experience. it's extremely boring for such an otherwise perfect game. When I am considering if I should obliterate or go to mithrix, it's often obliteration because the alternative is just so slow.
tepid wolf
Honestly I don't consider it as game ruining or anything but it is indeed boring
Like I generally just skip the spongy enemies (because scaling difficulty), and just go check soup island or check out the lunar pods
tranquil kiln
yeah i agree w what y'all have said, it isn't game ruining boring, but god it's so unnecessarily large and slow to move through
also i know that 57 leaf clover is like objectively the best item, but it feels absolutely useless to get as my first red or early in a run
am i the only person who feels like this?
mellow mango
item that relies on you having other items to be useful is not useful when you dont have other items?
who would've thought
tired axle
don't forget about that +0.9% crit chance
raven lichen
I dont think clover is objectively the best item anyways aha
Partly because of its dependence. It raises a ceiling on your items nothing else can, which is why its so special and powerful, but theres a large point beforehand where other items will add more to the table
mellow mango
best item is like clover or tesla or daggers I guess
although if we are talking about best item based on the rarity maybe like tritip?
tranquil kiln
im so mad
opened a shrine of chance, got a red, but it went off the side of the map
high shoal
L
brisk gale
opened a shrine of chance, got a red, but it went off the side of the map
sometime,the game troll us
raven lichen
I think in many cases meathook is better than clover, although it needs aoe
Tritip is good, but not that useful in a lot of cases and the damage wont scale incredibly past a loop or two so even then idk.
high shoal
what
clover is way better than hook
if you pick up any item like the green mistle launcher
you just win
brisk gale
ATG missle mk1
high shoal
yes that one
brisk gale
Clover is always good thing
fluid notch
I'd rather get a meathook with no items than a clover
brisk gale
meathook prob a good aoe item
tired axle
clover is way better than hook
the hooks meathook shoots out can also proc atg, often it will raise the chance higher then clover would, at least if you have enough enemies
high shoal
ok clover is better late game ig
tired axle
ok clover is better late game ig
eh, not really
brisk gale
its good for any game
high shoal
I do find it useful as shit
with a lot of items
Meat hook is very good tho
like loader thunder gauntlet but only the aoe and its good
raven lichen
Meathook is a decently consistent chain extender that can proc every step, and if it does has 10 chances to proc other stuff, and groups enemies to improve aoe
In a lot of cases adding a meathook can have much better outcomes on average compared to adding a clover
high shoal
clover just useful :/
raven lichen
It is, but its dependence on other stuff makes it probably second or third.
Ypu could even strongly argue that tesla coil or daggers are better, since they might have a much larger effect if grabbed before clover, but i think that would depend case to case
pastel garden
Sometimes this community gives me some brain damage for reasons unknown
I can feel my brain cells ceasing to exist one by one
pastel garden
I really don't know
Sometimes being on this server feels like a good company
And sometimes you see only uninvited guests at your own party
fluid notch
yes
raven lichen
Yes
pastel garden
That might sound selfish, but high popularity ruined this game for me in some way
fluid notch
ok
pastel garden
I mean, it is flawless
fluid notch
ok]
mellow mango
I mean, it is flawless
commencement
tired axle
[ok]
quasi topaz
i found a soldier syringe 3d printer with mercenary
my m2 is broken [in the bad way]
worth it though
autumn cipher
<:Magmaworm7:587662398882709514><:Magmaworm6:587662392553635840><:Magmaworm5:587...
the swarm
tired axle
worms
autumn cipher
sworms
quasi topaz
<:Magmaworm7:587662398882709514><:Magmaworm6:587662392553635840><:Magmaworm5:587...
this challenge of the mountain ain't shi-
tired axle
mellow mango
glass
zinc kernel
yeah regenerative stacks
dull ingot
this challenge of the mountain ain't shi-
lmao
simple sand
imagine having to fight this many
I have fought 10x the amount of that, it hurt :(
I had to use my 26 Dio's best friend
dull ingot
oof
summer terrace
oh yeah well I fought 11x that and only used 25 dios
dull ingot
u doin ok bud
merry karma
<:Magmaworm7:587662398882709514><:Magmaworm6:587662392553635840><:Magmaworm5:587...
so I like wuff apparently
fluid notch
ok
deft raptor
round coyote
neon garnet
Magma Worm is my least favorite thing about playing Huntress
Pain in the ass every time
fluid notch
huntress is my least favorite thing about playing huntress
mellow mango
yes
dull ingot
yes
summer terrace
no you're right
fluid notch
huntress is awesome
wrong
summer terrace
ok
dull ingot
so I like wuff apparently
likewise
floral forge
Magma Worm is my least favorite thing about playing Huntress
Magma Worm is my least favorite thing about playing Huntress
FTFY
dull ingot
Magma Worm is my least favorite thing about playing ~~Huntress~~
mine is the Vagrat implosion
high shoal
Huntress brain dead
like more brain dead that loader
at least with loader you have to partially aim
summer terrace
huntress is all about the movement
high shoal
aka walking backwards whilst spamming all your abilities
summer terrace
I disagree 😎
neon garnet
Huntress fun but it is weird to switch back to characters that require aim.
fluid notch
then don't play huntress
fluid notch
last dying breath
half mason
oof
sweet copper
That happens to me all the time idk why
Is there a fix or something
Because I'm tired of having a extremely good run and the game just going "adios"
upper briar
since i've never had the game crash on me and the unity thing coming up, the only advice i can give is installing a stage save mod
dull ingot
at least with loader you have to partially aim
same with merc cuz they both melee
tepid wolf
Huntress is at least balanced and has low HP
Loader has high regen, armor, HP, has high, mobility, damage and survivability from the getgo
And spends barely any time in melee anyway since you either get launched away, you grapple away or everything dies instantly from the utility
zinc kernel
huntress with max value glaive and ballista is 760%dps
given how goodish ballista and glaive are that's still pretty pathetic
tepid wolf
Loader can do mamy times that damage just with the thunder gauntlet
And that's from a standstill
tepid wolf
Huntress mainly relies on her agility to slowly kill things
Triple blink allows you to be extremely hard to hit if used right
zinc kernel
would be nice if she had something other than mobility
like loader just has everything
tepid wolf
Glaive is some nice AOE but the cast animation is so long
neon garnet
I can get behind that idea.
high shoal
gesture is great wdym
terse stirrup
nah, its next to useless
tired axle
it really isn't, it should at least reduce your equip cd by 100%
terse stirrup
needs like, 75% cdr
high shoal
4 fuel cells, 1 gesture+ tonic= ggs
terse stirrup
mabye uses equipment twice?
high shoal
bro
tired axle
4 fuel cells, 1 gesture+ tonic= ggs
you only need 3 fuel cells and one gesture for perma uptime
tired axle
mabye uses equipment twice?
i'd say 3 times actually
high shoal
tonic is busted
terse stirrup
aspects are 100% uptime dude gesture is needs to be way better
theyre the most common items in the game
high shoal
Some aspects kinda stanky :/
livid shore
ok I'd like my hidden achievement now
fluid notch
no
dull ingot
yes
livid shore
is it normal that shrine of combat and defiant gouge stop working at some point?
tired axle
yes
at some point even regular enemies will stop spawning, though that takes a lot longer
livid shore
ah I see is that why I only get scavengers now?
tired axle
i actually mean that absolutely nothing spawns at some point, getting to the point where only scavs spawn is pretty common
basically scavengers are the most expensive monster for the director to spawn, and at some point it just thinks everything else would be too cheap
livid shore
did the devs say anything about adding mobs more expensive than the scavengers in the updates to come?
tired axle
i believe they said that they actually wanted to support lategame less and only focus on making stages 1-8 feel better, since that's where most normal runs end
summer terrace
ok I'd like my hidden achievement now
order
plain briar
Anyone got a cheatsheet for the items added by Starstorm?
pine iris
good morning game discussion 2
brisk gale
gm {redacted}
sweet copper
Gayme discussion
brisk gale
lol
high shoal
gayming
narrow gate
Game discussion 2 > game discussion 1
tired axle
yes
fluid notch
yes
mossy garden
yes
merry karma
yes
bright palm
I like to play with artifacts on every once in a while and one of my favorites is vengeance. the unfortunate thing about Vengeance is that Nkuhana's are the single worst item you can pick up
an umbra with a med kit killed me in one hit
brave relic
I'm coming for you
frank rock
PEAK AFK PERFORMANCE 
fluid notch
ok
barren marsh
dull ingot
+ 
+ laser glave
pearl mantle
+ + Slicing winds
dull ingot
brain with pauldron with anything
pearl mantle
captain taser spam op
dull ingot
in theory
fluid notch
ok
merry karma
sly vessel
headstompers
ashen sapphire
bright palm
I had a brainstalks run as mercenary that was quite good when I got mastery
it wasn't with slicing winds but I still basically spammed the R key was was in I-Frames for most of the run afterwards
final jay
Hey been gone for a while, has there been any talk on the similarities between MUL-T and MGSV's D-Walker in terms of the whole "digitigrade walking/rolling robot that goes faster by dropping wheels down on its lower leg" thing? I got into Metal Gear in the last few weeks and it's been STRIKING to say the least.
gloomy wigeon
whats a good mercenary build? with pic if u can
sudden urchin
Eclipse 5.
cerulean lynx
jesus christ using supressive fire on a late game command run is a mistake
dark osprey
anyone up for a monsoon run?
plain moat
whats a good mercenary build? with pic if u can
As many focus crystals as your body can take
The end
high shoal
got beads?
keen wind
got beads?
Doesn't look like he has beads.
tawny plaza
fun fact kappa
Captain's face is based off of they Treyarch symbol
final jay
See, the thing that MUL-T does with lowering the second set of wheels when you switch to sprinting? D-walker does the same thing for the faster mode that also doubles for the sneaky movement mode.
Difference being of course that D-walker has flat feet for the standard movement mode that also function as skid plates for the rolling mode rather than MUL-T's primary pair of wheels (which side note I really feel like they should be rollerball wheels instead but that's a separate issue)
uncut vapor
Finally achieved my goal of one billion damage on Monsoon
final jay
j e s u s
uncut vapor
At a certain point the limiting factor is how long you are willing to look at the strobe light the game becomes lol
merry karma
just get good
novel sorrel
whats a good mercenary build? with pic if u can
Builds arent really a thing in ror2 as per the ingerent randomness. As merc you wanna pick up literally every non lunar item that drops for you. If youre talking about which items to prio in co-op or multishops, its pretty much the same as every character with crit always being good if its nit maxed, proc items always being good, bleed always being good unless its maxed, on kill effects always being good etc. The only thing different to consider for merc is that he benefits massively from focus crystal due to all of his damage(or most of his damage if you run slicing winds) being dealt close enough to the enemy to proc focus crystal. What item you need the most out of a multishop or debating who deserves an item more in co-op doesnt depend on what ”build” your character should go but instead depends on what you feel like you currently need. If you feel too slow get mobility items, if you feel like you take too much damage get surviveability items and if you feel like you deal too little damage take damage items etc
If you’re talking about command then the ”best” build is just to stack will’o the wisps and when you have like 50 of them you’ll kill the entire stage from killing a single enemy. With this is mind, the best build for command is just what you find the most fun cuz there are a million ways to make yourself so strong that you actively have to try to ever die.
dull ingot
if you're playing with artifact of command then you CAN build, and you can try to experiment with different item effects
novel sorrel
Yeah but command builds are kinda pointless to optimize, at least to me. If you’ve cleared the first stage and done void fields with command, youve already won unless you go out of your way to pick terrible items. The best command build is just what you personally find the most fun cuz theres countless ways to make command builds that are designed to make you win super easily
gray gazelle
Wtf what are the odds I get 46 items and not a single equipment
I go into the lunar scavenger fight with 12 fuel cells and no equipment
mossy garden
lucky
novel sorrel
If you’re opening chests intead of equipment barrels, 100%
quartz saffron
👉 6️⃣ 0️⃣ 
gray gazelle
Sacrifice
novel sorrel
About 1.03%
Which realistically isnt that low considering how many ror2 runs people end up doing
Assuming you also did void fields or aurelionite realm or opened rusted chests or got the legendary from either stage 4 variants those all have a 0% chance to be equipment while adding to your item pool
So if you did any of that the odds would be way higher
gray gazelle
Didnt
novel sorrel
Then its 1.03%
gray gazelle
Bruh moment
novel sorrel
Granted theres a chance an equipment dropped and you just didnt see it
Which is way more likely
Or one dropped from a flying enemy or fell off the map
gray gazelle
What are the odds of rolling a 3 once on a dice after rolling 6 times
novel sorrel
That would be 50% if i remember my probability math right
The odds of a 1 in 6 occuring once in 6 attempts should be perfectly likely
50%
novel sorrel
As anything less than 50% is unlikely and anything more than 50% is likely, 50% would be just expected
gray gazelle
So it either happens or it doesn't... so 50%
novel sorrel
you take the chance of it not happening raised by the attempts. Then you take 1 minus that number. In this case that would be 1 in 5 aka 20%. The odds of 20% not happening is 80% or 0.8. 0.8 raised by 10 is 0.107. 1-0.107 is 0.892. The odds of a 1 in 5 chance happening once or more in 10 attempts is 89.2% @gray gazelle
I mathed out the dice example and calling it 50% is just lazy math from my end. Using the above method, the odds of rolling a 3 once or more in 6 dice rolls is 66.5% @gray gazelle
gray gazelle
Thank you
This quesion has been itching my brain for a while and it's not something you can just google
novel sorrel
Its a really useful rule to know for trying to figure out things in rng games
As long as you know the chance of something happening and the amount of attempts that was made, you can figure out the odds of it not happening once im those attempts
If you wanna figure out things like the odds of getting 4 reds out of 200 items it gets a bit complicated and uses something known as binomial distribution. Its kinda complicated if you havent learned probability math but there are calculators for it online where you just plug in all the right values and it’ll give you the odds
merry karma
good discussion 1
bright palm
Doesn't look like he has beads.
You had no way of know but I go by they/them! Also, no beads since I just wanted the mastery skin and didnt feel like dying to either boss again (this run was really only good because of brainstalks)
fluid notch
ok
tired axle
ok
coral pine
fluid notch
ok
tired axle
ok
uncut vapor
The odds of a 1 in 6 occuring once in 6 attempts should be perfectly likely
Probably worth mentioning this is true for at least one event, and not exactly one.
P(at least one 3 with six rolls) ~= 33.49% vs P(exactly one 3 with six rolls) = 6/6^6 = 0.01%
I think you mentioned that though
torpid inlet
you take the chance of it not happening raised by the attempts. Then you take 1 ...
That is cool, I was looking for probability for chance to proc on proc chains. But were that to include the 57 lead clover, would you just double your possible attempts as each effect can have another chance to roll per hit?
novel sorrel
Clover is just like a second attempt. Raise the chance of failure by your stacks of clover and then subtract that number from 1
tired axle
chance to not happen ^(clovers+1)
torpid inlet
you take the chance of it not happening raised by the attempts. Then you take 1 ...
In this example then, would it be .8 raised by 20 then? For 1 stack of clover.
summer terrace
0.8 would be 0.96
torpid inlet
Or would you run the formula for the new items proc chance and use that?
summer terrace
wdym
limber radish
god, silence between two strikes is so good on mul-t
limber radish
you can become immortal as long as you spam retool enough
not to mention the bombs
tired axle
+50% damage is pretty nice
limber radish
and with the nailgun, you either kill everything that gets close to you or your graphic card
cerulean lynx
yeah but it’s cool
limber radish
if you change to another equipment and then take it again, your shield and hp get healed
combine it with retool for maximum antideath
sly vessel
if you change to another equipment and then take it again, your shield and hp ge...
But shield bad
torpid inlet
So does clover work by assigning a new proc chance to an item, or by multiplying the possible attempts by 2? Because if it just multiplied the attempts by 2, then the luck equation is a little strange
sly vessel
Only take tri tip
tired axle
it only heals 50% of your health which is half of extremely low
sly vessel
So does clover work by assigning a new proc chance to an item, or by multiplying...
It adds an attempt
limber radish
it only heals 50% of your health which is half of extremely low
but it does so every 0.5 seconds
sly vessel
Formula is 100% - (chance to not happen^clovers+1)
limber radish
just don't trigger osp too much and you're done
tired axle
It adds an attempt
it only adds an attempt if you don't succeed the first
cerulean lynx
this is the equation
sly vessel
it only adds an attempt if you don't succeed the first
Not really a difference
tired axle
well, it doesn't apply 2 bleed
sly vessel
Oh yeah in that case ig
tired axle
though i guess you could also say it adds an attempt and if one of them succeeds it procs once
sly vessel
Adds an attempt per clover, every proc can only succeed once
tired axle
yeah
cerulean lynx
which is why you can’t double crit with 200% crit chance
cerulean lynx
well if a shot is deemed that it will proc then it cant proc that same thing in the same attempt ig
well it cant proc the same thing at all
sly vessel
Don’t think it would even then because 200% chance is just interpreted is guranteed crit
But idk exactly how that is interpreted
cerulean lynx
well yes hence why if you have 100% bleed chance it will just be interpreted as guaranteed bleed and not even think about applying it multiple times with clover
sly vessel
Same end result ig
Anyhow we seriously need to get an explanation of how clover works pinned in game questions sometime
tired axle
yes
cerulean lynx
i mean not really if you just plug in the proc chance for an item and your number of clovers into a calculator its not that hard to understand
tired axle
people obviously don't understand it tho
sly vessel
Yeah
cerulean lynx
yes because luck is inherrently a confusing thing but if you look it up its easier to understand
sly vessel
I’d say put the equation and then some general proc chances for atgs, ukes, etc
tired axle
yes because luck is inherrently a confusing thing but if you look it up its easi...
but people try to look it up in this discord and fail, since it isn't pinned anywhere
cerulean lynx
idk why you would go to discord first and not the wiki tho?
plain briar
I mean the in game description is easy enough to understand
cerulean lynx
yeah
plain briar
reroll for a favorable outcome
tired axle
idk why you would go to discord first and not the wiki tho?
me neither lol, people do it tho
cerulean lynx
i mean its easy enough to just say the ingame description or that it almost doubles the chances if you dont wanna bust out a calculator
plain briar
day 1827362 without Chef 😔
quasi topaz
order time
slow condor
well damn guess the enemies would actually WANT tt to proc
or else 
merry karma
quasi topaz
died cuz shaped glass
pog
slow condor
f
high shoal
shaped glass is good but it also sucks
nocturne patio
high shoal
disconnectors are mega lame
nocturne patio
Accidentally killed him on last stage, fails to get revenge
high shoal
:c
bright palm
I found a focus crystal printer on the first stage
keen wind
So many people playing Loader. Huh.
bright palm
she's just fun
high shoal
playin acrid engineer
sand abyss
Commando druggie more fun
autumn bane
I can win with most other characters at least
round coyote
merry karma
hi
deft oxide
visions of heresy on loader?
brazen jackal
visions of heresy on loader?
At least that’s not quite as bad as strides
But that’s not saying much
fluid notch
deft oxide
why
quasi topaz
first time i got striders was with loader
on stage 6 mithrix
i threw the run with that
merry karma
dull ingot
can we start an argument
dull ingot
nah
dull ingot
I play with hacks lol
fluid notch
ok
dull ingot
ok
plain briar
ok
high shoal
lame but ok
high shoal
made a bad tierlist
fluid notch
ok
high shoal
dull ingot
you havent been through x5 focus crystal x3 red whip in cell
and they're never out of combat
and jellyfish
maybe you have but my greatest run was ruined because of that
cinder knoll
Same lmao
deft raptor
cinder knoll
Wtf is that
dull ingot
cinder knoll
stop
brisk gale
lemdog
novel sorrel
The true horror isnt the focus crystal jellyfish but the proc item jellyfish. Focus crystal will still have to obey the rules of osp but jellyfish explosions have a 3.0 proc coefficient and if they have bleed or an atg that will happily finish you off right after osp procced
brisk gale
wow,didn't know that,thanks
limber radish
Jerry
tired axle
Terry
tired juniper
i loving getting a brainstalks with attack speed and then just turning that into a pee gun with commando
sly vessel
Ok
autumn cipher
uhh clay templar should be even higher than mithrix those fuckers shred you
high shoal
templars actually suck now that I think about it
plain briar
solus probes ezpz just get 3 armor plates
autumn cipher
templars actually suck now that I think about it
i had over 5k hp on loop 2 and almost instantly died from a templar gang
fluid notch
Just dodge
autumn cipher
they are hitschan tgio >:((
fluid notch
Dodge
autumn cipher
ok
sly birch
I was playing with people that choose they items from chest, if you dont know the discription of the item your picking you just picking pictures ???
fluid notch
What
limber radish
yes
sly vessel
I was playing with people that choose they items from chest, if you dont know th...
Learn
sly birch
The artifact they lets you choose whats in chest?
fluid notch
What about it?
sly vessel
Learn
limber radish
you just have to know what an item does
sly birch
If you dont know the item description then your just choosing pictures
fluid notch
People learn those things
limber radish
so, yeah, that artifact is pretty bad until you know what every item does
fluid notch
Try and learn things
sly birch
Plus you dont have time to choose when monsters are hitting you very hard also
fluid notch
Git gud
sly birch
Yea im trying to
errant blade
Loader glitched for me she killed herself with the punch
summer terrace
chaos?
mellow mango
Saw? Saw!? You want me to use that skill??? No, I'll stick to double nailgun thank you very much. Mul-t isnt a melee character, dont try to make him one. Saw is stupid, barely any damage and it makes you basically guaranteed to get hit. Because. Its. Melee. Rebar? Maybe. Scrap even I would take over that garbage excuse of a skill. If you think saw is good, you are a gesture spamming, merc loving, sacrifice farming, worthless waste of oxygen and you deserve to know it. If saw was even, in any way, viable, woolie would have mentioned it. But did woolie mention it??? NO. and woolie is always right, look at his tierlists for goodness sake. I would sooner play commando than mul-t with saw, and commando is at the literal BOTTOM of woolies character tierlist. Saw literally might as well be the same as not taking an m1 at all. It only does 100% damage per hit. Nailgun does 840% DPS! why does this skill even exist. 100% damage per hit is extremely low compared to literally any other primary. Yeah, sure you can sprint while using saw. But you know what else you can sprint while using? Retool. And retool is completely useless, the optimal mul-t loadout is literally 2 of the same skill anyway. Why would you ever swap them. So next time you try to explain to me, convince, even make me CONSIDER taking the worst m1 in the game, maybe just go and play your command/sac/swarms game instead. A melee ability on a character who isnt loader? Literally never going to work
autumn garnet
thanks for this
torpid inlet
Has this man even seen Red Riot Ross😂. In all honesty I think Saw is unique and might have potential in certain builds, it has a good proc coefficient for how many times it hits a second too. It also serves as extra challenge.
dull ingot
Saw? Saw!? You want me to use that skill??? No, I'll stick to double nailgun tha...
Can we make this into a copypasta
or is it one already
mellow mango
Basically already one
dull ingot
I’ll now know what to comment everytime someone mentions about the saw
thank you for your contribution
torpid inlet
Ohhh, you got me
pearl mantle
The fact that a merc role sent it is also just comedy
@tired axle what do people think of your pfp outside of this server
sly vessel
There is no outside of this server
rotund breach
just had my first infinite tonic run, it was very fun
tired axle
tonic good
deft oxide
hey guys. Can blight proc stuff
fluid notch
no
summer terrace
that would be so op
deft oxide
6 ok i'll print one more
I mysteriously came upon 5 wax quails so I have greens to spare
fluid notch
ok
deft oxide
THE GAME KEEPS GIVING ME FUEL CELLS I'M AT 10
fluid notch
ok
uncut marten
how many daggers does captain need to proc bleed every time
old tiger
Im learning artificer, how good is the super jump move and what are some good ways to make some sort of item build with it (ie what items should i be picking up instead of others)?
limpid briar
You pick up Crowdfunder, you basically win.
That's how you play Artificer.
old tiger
oh
merry karma
dark osprey
Im learning artificer, how good is the super jump move and what are some good wa...
try to get at least 2 hooves and 2 feathers (and maybe a quail) she has like NO mobility so u gotta make up for it with those
dark osprey
Im learning artificer, how good is the super jump move and what are some good wa...
also the primordial cube is a super good equipment for her cause u can just group freeze or flamethrower everything
uncut marten
what do i build on MUL-T
mellow mango
procs
bleed
same as everyone else basicallt
crimson garden
And depending on your weps of choice, some have higher priority
uncut marten
i'm running nail rebar
crimson garden
Then yeah, generally the same as any other character
uncut marten
is bleed just that good
summer terrace
yes
narrow gate
damn i feel liek a piece of trash wwhen i lose a run that shoudlve been an ez win
i had like 4 atgs before stage 5
i feel so bad
fluid notch
😔
narrow gate
😦
plain moat
coral bobcat
Y’know this one little QoL change would get rid of a major annoyance, I wish when using the Command Screen with a dpad or stick the menu would wrap around or at least have a hold to scroll value since holding a direction doesn’t seem to help.
For Keyboard and Mouse fellers who don’t know to select something in the bottom right I have to repeatedly mash down and right until I get there, so using Command is pretty annoying with a controller.
Actually while I’m talking about scroll the Scrapper would also benefit from wrap around, it’s much less annoying of a UI but still takes a lot of button presses sometimes
brisk gale
ok
deep lake
ok, so i was just doing eclipse runs and got happiest mask stage 2.
and a converted clay dunestrider killed me with his drain
uncut marten
how many crowbars are too many crowbars
brisk gale
crowbar got no cap
crowbar shred fat enemy
uncut marten
so 57 on loader is good?
merry karma
not enough
uncut marten
true
i might need 50 or so more
but i am on stage 20 and i do kinda want to hit mithrix
sorry 21
brisk gale
get 100 crowbar and you're good
merry karma
or are you
uncut marten
yeah
brisk gale
uncut marten
this og was a run to get the timed chest
summer terrace
this is actually big brain bc mithrix can't use crowbar
brisk gale
this og was a run to get the timed chest
well,did you get it?
uncut marten
yeah
brisk gale
congrats! 🎉
uncut marten
why do you think i'm on stage 20
brisk gale
🤷 spirit to go further?
uncut marten
nah, i reset if i don't make it
merry karma
you can get some ap rounds
uncut marten
but i think it's a good run if i 1 shot any elite with thunder gauntlet
brisk gale
a god run happen when you got
uncut marten
i got like 10 bit i'm priotizing crowbars
merry karma
brisk gale
which is never happen since it doesn't exist
rocky venture
uncut marten
113 crowbars gotten let's go kill god
BRUH I'M SO GLAD I RANDOMLY GOT A DIO'S
BRUH HE STILL WRECKED MY ASS
high shoal
I only have one dios left
prime trellis
alpine timber
I play on pc but have 1200 hours and only use an xbox controller m8
narrow thorn
they are dating uwu
amber totem
Why do pc screenshots always have like horrible anti alasing?
amber totem
they are dating uwu
Like this one
fluid notch
yes
outer swallow
ok
trim cradle
Why do pc screenshots always have like horrible anti alasing?
I don't see any antialiasing. Do you mean the jpg compression? Because that's the fault of whoever posted the screenshot.
dull ingot
that's actually discord's fault
fluid notch
ok
tired axle
very cool.
tired axle
ok
high shoal
I’m at stage 101
tired axle
very cool.
sand abyss
Looks dope
tranquil kiln
is there any way to have more than 4 people in a multiplayer game
amber totem
@high shoal is it supposed to look like that?
Does anything change when you get this far into the rotation?
high shoal
well
only scavengers spawn
lag is everything
sometimes no enemies spawn
sometimes no teleporter boss
speed effects the power of your gauntlet punch
grapple first
punch after basically
frosty aspen
Pffffft and people say Mercenary is a bad class
The sole reason I got and consumed Dio's best friend was so I could have a good reason to end the run
summer terrace
14 psg is kinda alpha thouhg
mellow mango
psg is based
patent pumice
Pffffft and people say Mercenary is a bad class
people who say it is are unskilled, as Mercenary required skill to use
frosty aspen
My brother fell in love with the class after playing with him on Monsoon
deft raptor
they are dating uwu
deft raptor
people who say it is are unskilled, as Mercenary required skill to use
mercenary is coool
frosty aspen
He's my favorite class
frosty aspen
I'm taking all the focus crystals
gloomy totem
Sniper is where it's at ngl
tranquil kiln
do yall have any mods you particularly recommend?
gloomy totem
I play on console, is I couldn't tell you
fluid notch
betterui, itemstats, femmod, scannerplusone, fix solus control unit spawnrate,
merry karma
ok
wind hearth
I play on console, is I couldn't tell you
on ps4 or xbox?
fluid notch
loader op
high shoal
loader op
I did at 3 day spanning run with loader
it took 605 minutes and I got to stage 108
fluid notch
three days
fluid notch
unbased
high shoal
loader busted
fluid notch
yes
opal vortex
I don't like playing as loader but i don't think any character is objectively the worst
high shoal
loader kinda busted doe
frosty aspen
I don't like playing as loader but i don't think any character is objectively th...
^
high shoal
I mean it’s fine if you don’t like them but
opal vortex
She do be i guess
tired axle
loader strong
opal vortex
Yeah im not good enough to get that far lol
high shoal
At stage 20 or so it becomes item pickup simulator
and I hit the integer limit the game could process
around 42 trillion
or quintillion
quartz trail
Stage 20, 85 minutes, do I loop mithrix again, or do I face the bastard?
tired axle
it's actually better to face him early since his stat scaling is really difficult to outpace in non command runs
quartz trail
Lucky me, I'm running 
tired axle
in that case it doesn't matter
just make sure to take some kind of ranged damage equip for phase 4 if you are melee
also don't stack too many behemoths
or willowisps if you have drones, beetle guards, or turrets
tranquil kiln
yeah, she’s one of the best classes, if not THE best class
quartz trail
Yeah
tranquil kiln
i think top two are probably loader captain, i don’t know if any other survivors are on their level of power
mellow mango
loader captain and merc
tranquil kiln
merc? lol
quartz trail
Merc's ok
tranquil kiln
merc is strong if you get going on him sure but he lacks the utility and dmg of captain or the survivability of loader
quartz trail
Artificer is really op
tired axle
i'd say merc is slightly above average
tranquil kiln
he’s fine, he’s definitely not on the higher end of survivors though
i think he takes too much effort to pilot when compared to the other survivors
tired axle
on the other hand, i couldn't see anyone except cap and loader being better than him
quartz trail
I like arti better than merc
tired axle
he has really high damage potential and basically will never get hit if you are good with him
tranquil kiln
idk about arti i think she can struggle pretty easily
mellow mango
merc is definitely on the higher end of survivors if played well
but he takes a lot more effort than like captain or loader
tranquil kiln
for sure, if you’re a very good merc then he’s very strong, but like we’ve both said it takes a lot more effort
quartz trail
idk about arti i think she can struggle pretty easily
Arti's alt special shoots you up, so you can just avoid most enemies
tranquil kiln
is that her alt special? haven’t used it yet
quartz trail
It's super useful
mellow mango
yeah but him taking effort doesnt necessarily make him worse
he still has the same power potential of the others
quartz trail
is that her alt special? haven’t used it yet
The cooldown is short enough to keep gaining in height
tired axle
well, if you are 100m above the map you aren't gonna be killing anything
tranquil kiln
i don’t think it makes him worse but i do think it disqualifies him from the top couple bc of how strong loader and captain are in the hands of basically anybody
also i feel like if commando primary was agile he’d be so much better lol
quartz trail
well, if you are 100m above the map you aren't gonna be killing anything
I'm gonna have to disagree with you. 100m up teleported you down anyway, so if you get that high up, something's wrong. And her secondary and alt primary are just aoe, so it's good to kill enemies
tranquil kiln
eh i think it’s a good band aid while/if they address the issues with his kit
quartz trail
I'm at mithrix, should I take drugs, rocks, alcohol, or depression
tired axle
hit him with a rock
quartz trail
Aight
tired axle
also, if you're talking about meteor don't activate it before the cutscene, they can still damage you during it
i died to that once since i had gesture
quartz trail
Do I get bugs as Mul-t?
tired axle
it was pretty funny
quartz trail
That sounds funny
tired axle
bug means transcendence?
quartz trail
Yee
tired axle
if you have good healing no
tranquil kiln
if you’re going nailgun then you’re good lmfao
quartz trail
Nope, rebar and saw
fluid notch
I plan to cause a car accident
based
tired axle
yeah, probably don't take transc, unless if you can get like 10 stacks
quartz trail
What about 3 stacks of transcendence
I sit around 6k health w/sheild now. Perks of taking blood
tired axle
probably still better to play it save and keep the healing
tired axle
just get gestures
quartz trail
I've got 2 coins
Aight
Turns out I get to keep those two coins
Only two pods, unfortunately
tired axle
shame
quartz trail
Yeah
I'm going with 4 fuel cells to compensate a little
Now for the waiting game
Y'know, I should be used to mithrix one-shotting me at Max health
tired axle
yeah, mithrix does that
quartz trail
In one game, I straight up tank a pinwheel of death
In another, I get the banhammer from experience
magic grotto
if Mithrix takes a 57 leaf clover, does the luck affect your chances of successfully stealing items back on hit?
tired axle
the item steal isn't affected by luck
jolly token
I'm at mithrix, should I take drugs, rocks, alcohol, or depression
Rocks
quartz trail
My guy, that was three hours ago, and if you look back a little, you'll see that I took the rocks, and died
rapid geyser
unnfffg.g...... mmnnngggggg
high shoal
dull ingot
I'm at mithrix, should I take drugs, rocks, alcohol, or depression
all of the above
quartz trail
dark osprey
@dull ingot go back to the 15 trio thing i cant hear u but i got the mod manager working
fluid notch
ashen grail
apparently i'm you @versed basin
azure mortar
knew too much is how
silk spoke
should i tade all my white items for rusted keys
tired axle
it would be funny
simple sand
should i tade all my white items for rusted keys
you be getting a legendary if you found the lockbox then
strong mirage
I feel like I'm doing something wrong with loader, I don't think I'm hitting with the damage I should be, even though I'm using a fully charged fist at the bottom of swings when you'd think the momentum would be at its fastest
strong mirage
I'm getting the speed, I got the speed achieveables, but I'm seeing other people do like 75K and I feel like I'm barely hitting a couple thous
guess that makes sense lol
zenith sequoia
Damn I got introduced to RoR2 mods a few days ago I'm kinda addicted now
How do y'all go back to playing vanilla
halcyon oriole
@zenith sequoia
Play the game with swarm and sacrifice artifacts so the game feels both more and less balanced.
tepid wolf
Well it's just less balanced
earnest sage
luckiest run ever jfc
summer terrace
Well it's just less balanced
my modpack is better balanced than vanilla
somber island
The game really cucked me yesterday
I had about 5 elder lemurians stage 2 and a horde of many glacial elder lemurians for the porter event
and that was when I was introducing my friend to risk of rain xd
noble sierra
best multi shop ever
atomic ore
God run incoming