Rex is just the most awful cretin scum bastard ever created and I don't like him one bit
#gd2-nullified
tired axle
Merc is honestly the most fun for me, and def better than like mando or huntress
rare grove
Wait I have a confession
tepid wolf
Merc is a higher mid tier character
tired axle
Oh
tepid wolf
Huntress is pretty good at the moment fits the meta well
tired axle
Yeah, in that case i completly agree
rare grove
Huntress is good but I get really unlucky about 65% of the time
Engineer is my go-to on vanilla because mmm spider turret spider droneeee
tired axle
My problem with huntress is just the low damage
tepid wolf
Commando feels like hell on eclipse
rare grove
I'd play eclipse if I had people to play with
tepid wolf
It is solo only
rare grove
Oh is it
tepid wolf
No cheesing here
If you want harder multiplayer you can download syzygy or diluvian mods
rare grove
I do have the deluvian mod
tepid wolf
Syzygy is diluvian + all eclipse modifiers
rare grove
Just want a group of people to do an item share mod, command relic, loop
Multiple loops
tepid wolf
Eh command gets boring fast
Pretty quickly you literally get bored with picking items
rare grove
Command gets boring if you build actual meta builds
tepid wolf
Eh even with memes it is a bit repetetive
tired axle
There are only so many memes ya can do
rare grove
I'm very easily entertained because I get maybe 10 hours a week of gaming time between work and college
I'm actually at work right now
So when I DO get on, I get a little giddy stacking 15 fireworks and 10 ukeleles
And then the soul daggers, and then clover, and then behemoth
tepid wolf
Things like polyp builds sound more fun than that
tired axle
And then the soul daggers, and then clover, and then behemoth
Isn't that kinda the meta?
tepid wolf
It is
rare grove
I thought the meta was bleed crits
tepid wolf
Things like strides loader is off meta for example
Or a polyp build on captain or engineer
rare grove
Oh like I said I don't really have time to be too worried if it's boring or if something is meta I'm lucky to play much at all
tired axle
Behemoth is just a great Item and dagger is a good proc chain starter
tepid wolf
Opinions on command and such really come down when people started playing
rare grove
I think I got the game day 1 but have played really sporadically
Bc I really enjoyed ror1
tepid wolf
I have played a long time before artifacts were introduced so I am not a huge fan of them (especially the command + sacrifice + swarms is boring)
rare grove
That is really boring and it's really tedious
tepid wolf
When scavengers were added though they were a lot more dangerous
lethal lark
They are mega dangourus for me
tepid wolf
They were much cheaper to spawn and had the instant capacitor and could have the dagger
lethal lark
tesla coil wdym
tepid wolf
Coil can be countered by not going in
lethal lark
but butbutvubug
tepid wolf
Scavs are easy to avoid if they are too dangerous
lethal lark
when im doing the teleport they slowy make their way towards me
tepid wolf
Maybe the first few scavs are the only real threat
tired axle
Just kill them from a distance
tepid wolf
Late game is so unbalanced that the player just stomps it past a certain point
lethal lark
im trying to moonson with acrid so maybe thats why
but whem you get a scavenger as a boss
lethal lark
its hard for me since i see scavenger a go ahghaa free itmes
then die
Idont really do to much damge to things anyways
tired axle
I don't even get scavs on normal monsoon runs
tepid wolf
I still remember someone seeing a scav on sundered by stage 4 at around 32 minutes
But sundered is evil so it is not even surprising
lethal lark
bhmmmthdmfyh
tired axle
There's a screenshot of a stage 1 scav out there
lethal lark
🥲
tired axle
Found it
lethal lark
WHY
tepid wolf
Free items
lethal lark
THAT HURTS ME MENTALITY
lethal lark
butstill thats scary
tepid wolf
10 free items stage 1 is basically a free win
tired axle
I think they used like 3 mountain shrines
tepid wolf
Artificer with her alt abilities specifically
lethal lark
i think multi is lame
dull ingot
artificer in general 😎
tepid wolf
And loader also can get boring with how unbalanced she is
lethal lark
poopy shopping cart is multi i domt like him
tepid wolf
Mul-t has the holy power saw
dull ingot
wait, arti isn't a character
so, loader then
lethal lark
whatttt
tepid wolf
Artificer is still stronger than commando which says something about commando
lethal lark
all characters can be op in their own ways
tepid wolf
Well loader has insane damage, mobility and survivability
dull ingot
dunno how being dead makes you stronger than commando but ok
tepid wolf
Commando being the most RNG reliant character is the problem
tepid wolf
And commando being outclassed by captain and mul-t
Because commando has low damage and no AOE
dull ingot
every char is outclassed by captain tho
lethal lark
but how is that rng duk
dull ingot
Because commando has low damage and no AOE
grenades exist
tepid wolf
Loader or acrid can get far with barely any items
dull ingot
commando might be cool and epic but that doesn't mean he's the best char because of that
lethal lark
Idont wama have an arguement i wana talk about tye game waaaa
tepid wolf
Meanwhile commando needs either a will o wips, ukulele and a few tri tips and some mobility to get anywhere
tepid wolf
His issues really shine in eclipse
sturdy bone
quick question, lunar coin is not considered as lunar item right?
i'm trying to get commando's alternate special
lethal lark
no
tepid wolf
He is just super inconsistent
dull ingot
quick question, lunar coin is not considered as lunar item right?
i'm trying to ...
right
lethal lark
quick question, lunar coin is not considered as lunar item right?
i'm trying to ...
lunar coin is not item
its mony for lunar item
tepid wolf
But yeah if use ice spear and ion surge on artificer it becomes painful to play
tepid wolf
Rex is really powerful but nobody uses him
lethal lark
because rex looks dumb
tepid wolf
Probably the 3rd of 4th strongest character in the game
tepid wolf
Once again Rex is not as item reliant
lethal lark
plamt robot
tepid wolf
Since he really can go through a run without any healing items
lethal lark
what about leeching seed?
tepid wolf
Oh and he only needs 2 more debuffs to trigger death mark
Leech seed is very little healing compared to the M1
tepid wolf
Leech seed feels a bit less nice since scythes are a thing
lethal lark
Idont have the scythe yet
tepid wolf
Oh and leech seed can heal less than 1 HP but the game just doesn't show it with the numbers
lethal lark
what
tepid wolf
So captain gets 6 HP per shot instead of 8
The healing is dependant on proc coeficient
lethal lark
whaaa
tepid wolf
So mul-t actually gets 0.6 HP per nail as well for example
dull ingot
rex would get 0.5 per m1 shot
tired axle
or per m2
tepid wolf
Per drill shot
dull ingot
isn't drill 1.0?
tepid wolf
Drill is 0.5
tired axle
both his m2s are
tepid wolf
And it is 16 damage instances
tired axle
also per bramble volley
lethal lark
doesnt rex feel like a funny name for a plant?
tepid wolf
So on average you get around 8 procs
lethal lark
or is that just me
lethal lark
plant robot
tired axle
cabbage robot
lethal lark
yse!!!
tired axle
cabbot
dull ingot
@tired axle seed barrage has 1.0 proc coeff
sonic hawk
cabbot
dull ingot
it's alright
autumn garnet
I’m an engi can you blame me for not looking at the screen at the last moment where it matters on my god run game
fluid notch
I can blame you
autumn garnet
no
fluid notch
pay attention to the game
brisk gale
ouch
rustic shadow
Rex mains rise up
tired axle
No.
summer terrace
yes
fervent ridge
wouldnt have happened if you actually use engi m1
rustic shadow
Imagine playing the game on anything but drizzle
brisk gale
engi ror 1
sly vessel
Gd2
sly vessel
Maybe we could even do, like, game discussion
tired axle
anyways, let's just migrate here, gd1 is a mess
tired axle
for a second i thought the second one was soup
brisk gale
its a tea xd
tired axle
i'll take the tea
merry karma
soup
fluid notch
I don't like tea
brisk gale
oh
sly vessel
So someone tell me if this is completely stupid what if leeching seed scaled off of bleed
brisk gale
☕ ?
fluid notch
water
brisk gale
🐃
fluid notch
blends in with dark theme
tired axle
So someone tell me if this is completely stupid what if leeching seed scaled off...
i feel like that would be a little op
brisk gale
leeching seed can heal you even with bleed dmg if i can remember
wicked condor
So someone tell me if this is completely stupid what if leeching seed scaled off...
how do you mean
visual oar
How would you implement leeching seed scaling with bleed? More bleed stacks = more on hit healing?
wicked condor
like you heal more on leeching seed based off of bleed stacks or smth?
tired axle
leeching seed can heal you even with bleed dmg if i can remember
bleed has 0 proc coef so it doesn't proc seed
brisk gale
ohh
sly vessel
Dunno exactly but for every 5 or so bleeds you get 1 hp/s
brisk gale
sounds good
visual oar
How would it work without bleed applied
brisk gale
hmm sounds logic
wicked condor
could see that being reasonable with pre-1.0 bleed
sly vessel
Gives innate chance to bleed kinda like harvester scythes
wicked condor
(which honestly I don't think would be a bad thing to return to lol)
sly vessel
But yeah it would get pretty busted
brisk gale
should scythe give hp on %? or its good where it is
sly vessel
Would be absolutely busted
tired axle
it's good rn
brisk gale
its good too on ror 1
sly vessel
It’s good because it scales with attack speed and such
brisk gale
healing ror 1 is mwuah
sly vessel
Tbf even if leeching seed was nutty (pun) with all the bleed so is pretty much all other healing once you get to that point
mild grotto
% heal on hit should not be a thing
blissful ridge
Ok gd1 is an actual cesspool
sly vessel
For monster tooth I think it’s fair
Maybe Medkit too idk if it already has it
Oh on hit
brisk gale
i wish like
wicked condor
medkit has % healing yea
mild grotto
It really doesn't need to
tired axle
honestly i feel like the flat amount on medkit is a little too high rn
sly vessel
Well I gotta do school have fun in gd2
mild grotto
Honestly? Monster Tooth was fine pre-1.0, people are just babies
brisk gale
👋
tired axle
Honestly? Monster Tooth was fine pre-1.0, people are just babies
i agree
brisk gale
huh?? wym babies??
mild grotto
It's not le ebin Scythe + capped crit so it's automatically bad
brisk gale
oh
mild grotto
Why'd Monster Tooth and Medkit get buffed but not Leeching Seed 😔
brisk gale
leeching seed too op
wicked condor
maybe remove the %-based healing from additional stacks of tooth/medkit?
that was what borbo mod did iirc and it seems mostly ok
blissful ridge
Bro March??? Guess I’m playing hades for a while for the roguelike itch
blissful quiver
p l u r a l
fluid notch
yes
blissful quiver
take my money hopoo
wicked condor
and elite types, also plural
fluid notch
yeah
blissful quiver
And a new game mode
fluid notch
yeah
brisk gale
bandit :O
blissful quiver
Bandit would be cool
I’m wondering if he’s gonna be in the March update since the update is about adding stuff that had to be cut and we now know that update is also going to add a survivor (woo)
wicked condor
I wonder if bandit's the one who finally makes me drop being a commando main
brave relic
nah you're forever a mando main
brave relic
yeah I don't like him
if I get him at like stage 5 metarmophosis he's really fun
or if I play with friends too
fluid notch
mando is fun
wicked condor
I really like grenade but his kit overall doesn't really gel in its current state
blissful quiver
My biggest fear is going to be trying to get commando mastery and sucking horribly
wicked condor
round being awful means you have to give up either AoE or a strong ranged and anti-air tool depending on your special choice
brave relic
my biggest fear is wanting to go back to eclipse and remembering I have to play as commando
brave relic
I did and I left
but I did loads of progress
I have 1 character at eclipse 8 and 4 characters that are almost in eclipse 8
but I gave up because it's hell
it was fun at first but it became hellish later
and the rng didn't help me much either
I was always getting grove or runs where I had zero mobility
wicked condor
I got up to eclipse 4 commando and took a break that's still ongoing
haven't made it past 1 on anyone else, although I got reasonably close as engi
blissful quiver
My current goal is just to try and get all the mastery achievements
brave relic
my current goal is to have fun and enjoy the game
blissful quiver
And also do it as mercenary because I only have that because I got carried to it in online and I want to do it myself damnit
brave relic
I proved myself that I could play and win on eclipse, I don't need to complete eclipse 8
wicked condor
And also do it as mercenary because I only have that because I got carried to it...
oh mood
ended up making myself redo acrid since I died to some random lunar wisp in commencement multiplayer (which was good since I discovered how fun melee acrid is lol)
visual hedge
bandit's like the one survivor i feel we dont even need
blissful quiver
I kinda play pseudo melee acrid
visual hedge
the bandit reloaded mod is nearly perfect, all ya really need to do is tweak the primaries just a bit
blissful quiver
I haven’t used mods at all
blissful quiver
but I am big dumb
visual hedge
even just simple mods like ProperSave, PhaseRoundLightning, and AutoSprint add so much
oh don't worry, r2modman's like the simplest thing to get up and running, even moreso than Steam Workshop
blissful quiver
Idk maybe
wicked condor
the bandit reloaded mod is nearly perfect, all ya really need to do is tweak the...
any suggestions on bandit tweaks
visual hedge
for the mod?
wicked condor
haven't really looked much at the config yet
visual hedge
my Primary changes:
Blast: Damage increased to 300% (was 250%), Shots decreased to 6 (default 8)
Flechette: Damage increased to 90% (was 80%), Shots decreased to 4 (default 6)
makes the primaries feel a lot better to use while also highlighting the reload mechanic a lot more, making it more engaging to play around
mild grotto
😳
blissful quiver
If I knew HAN-D had a big heccin hammer I would have been on board for him being added so much earlier
wicked condor
actually yea 6-shot Blast makes a lot more sense
summer terrace
the reload mechanic from reloaded is so fuckin good
blissful quiver
Yeah but like how Artificer has 4 fireballs
Except I guess it would reload all at once
wicked condor
yea it's closer to visions
sly vessel
I don’t remember to clearly didn’t play ror1 too much
wicked condor
ror1 bandit I think didn't have autofire, you had to button mash and it still ended up being slower than other primaries
blissful quiver
Yeah
sly vessel
Yeah button mash I remember that
blissful quiver
I think there was like a cap to how fast you could fire tho
I think that’s how I remember it, I haven’t gone back to RoR1 in a while
wicked condor
yea it's closer to visions
should probably clarify, I meant the unused ror2 bandit in the game files
sly vessel
We’ve dug up the ducking war axe
pearl mantle
I just got one shot by a malachite wisp
fluid notch
that happens
pearl mantle
I’m getting this frag grenade I swear on it
sly vessel
Do you not wanna do drizzle
pearl mantle
I made a bet with someone lol I need to play on rainstorm
autumn cipher
NEW CONTENT UPDATE COMING POOOOOOOOOG 
blissful quiver
pog
sly vessel
When did they say
blissful quiver
March next year
sly vessel
Oh cool
sick steppe
What loadout do you guys prefer for merc?
idk if i should use uppercut or the whirlwind attack
autumn cipher
theres a new merc abillity comin so that may change
sick steppe
yeah i like slicing winds too coz it took me forever to get so i kinda feel obligated to use it
and what does Whirlwind have that makes it better than uppercut?
wicked condor
forward movement on the ground and not sending you into the air mostly
the former is esp. nice for slicing winds since you lose one of your dashes
sick steppe
thats a good point
having a ranged attack for merc also makes him more flexible imo. the invincibility is nice tho
wicked condor
yea the ranged attack from winds helps me play merc closer to how I play other survivors
evis is still definitely viable enough for it to be mostly a personal choice thing I think. if only that were the case for other survivor loadouts lol
sonic hawk
paid survivor stat boosts when
fluid notch
dead game :/
what
crisp cosmos
dead game :/
dEaD gAmE
chilly nest
No new updates for 8+ months
chilly nest
I didn't think it would take them more than 4 months for a new update, once they rest from release
at least in the mid of 2021
crisp cosmos
do you have any experience in game design?
fluid notch
it's the size of several content updates
crisp cosmos
are you in the dev team?
summer terrace
this guy is not a game dev
crisp cosmos
exactly
games only dead once the servers are down, people stop making mods, and the developers cancel support
chilly nest
Still a dead game xd
crisp cosmos
Still a dead game xd
about as dead as your brain apparently
chilly nest
Wasn't planning to stop, but zero content is quite sad innit
crisp cosmos
you just gotta have a little bit of patience, as long as it's confirmed we're getting new content thats all that matters
chilly nest
What? I'm frustrated with release dates, nothing more
paper grotto
how is taking time to make content equal dead game lmao
crisp cosmos
^^^
half mason
TIL: using engie's harpoons don't count as entering combat for the purposes of 
quartz palm
Once I got used to Slicing Winds on Merc, I could never go back to Eviscerate. The ranged option is so helpful, and damage is noticeably higher, and tbh it teaches you to play better
merry karma
makes you feel like a God
quartz palm
Playing Merc when you have everything down is incredibly fun, even if he's not the best atm
fluid notch
merc is fun
half mason
god, razorwire + hellfire tincture + engie = mass destruction
pearl mantle
who needs repulsion armor plating when you have
pearl mantle
I just found an irradiant pearl pool on my commando: incorruptible run
fluid notch
rng is evil
fluid notch
damn
pearl mantle
yknow now that I think about it I’ve never gotten a dio’s on commando
acoustic wigeon
Anyone got some monsoon tips for a new-ish player? I've unlocked every character except the robot so far, and I can pretty consistently beat a rainstorm run. I know I need to keep a fast pace, but I suppose I'm not sure how many items I should be looking for per stage or how long to spend there. Any advice is greatly appreciated friends
brisk gale
Who's the robot you talking about??
acoustic wigeon
The one with the fuel cell thingy
tepid wolf
Rex
If you want to unlock him these days I recommend spending the 3 lunar coins to nearly guarantee abyssal depths
acoustic wigeon
Oh okay, so those are the portals in the secret shop I assume? I dont know a whole lot about the game but I've just been grinding like crazy because it's so much fun
tepid wolf
Yep it's in the newt shop
Generally I take it a bit slower on eclipse so I'm not really good at giving rushing advice to be honest
It takes me around 5-7 minutes to leave stage 1 for example when most people do so at around 4-5
But the general rule of thumb is rushing the first 2 stages and farming on stage 3-5 because of the higher gold gains. A good time to arrive at stage 3 is around the 10 minute mark
acoustic wigeon
Okay, I'm gonna try just flying through the first 2 stages, and grind out the 3rd - 5th a little more. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the tips friend
tepid wolf
Generally the most time spent is on stage 4 because of the legendary chests on abyssal depths and sundered grove and the Alloy worship unit on Siren's call
acoustic wigeon
Such good tips. Thanks for being so helpful. Jeez this game is addicting lol. I loved the first one too
quartz saffron
gifsthatendtoosoon
pearl hedge
neither did the AWU
autumn garnet
fair
quartz saffron
the beetle guard did 
autumn garnet
NO
pearl hedge
rip beeble
autumn garnet
truly
wind hearth
Didnt even oneshot pshh
autumn garnet
he just had his OSP
wind hearth
Soooo that means it couldve been better timed 
sturdy bone
tesla game strong
wind hearth
Tesla first item damn
sturdy bone
large chest on titanic plain
thank god i had recycler on third stage
recycler is the reason i have tritip daggers
brisk gale
wow
sturdy bone
i gotta say, chronobauble is really good against mithrix
i was lucky i recycled a green item then it turned to chronobauble
wind hearth
Noice
sturdy bone
i never realized that a trash green item like that is good against mithrix run
brisk gale
it is good against mithrix
wind hearth
Chrono is underestimated for sure
brisk gale
cause its slow mithrix down so hard
sturdy bone
I mean its still not that good in long runs
wind hearth
i basically always get 1 to get the debuff
sturdy bone
only as a debuff for death mark
wind hearth
Still gets you a guaranteed debuff tryna activate death mark
sturdy bone
but damn mithrix is slow as shit
sturdy bone
cause its slow mithrix down so hard
indeed
hang on let me brag this on gd1 so that i get roasted
worn pagoda
Merc better for this job
brisk gale
did merc just dash into it and AWU died?
paper hatch
wow
brisk gale
woah
summer terrace
ez
brave relic
did merc just dash into it and AWU died?
yeah he pushed it into the ground
brisk gale
thats amazing
autumn garnet
wow
wind hearth
Wauw that is quite impressive
merry karma
ez
frozen solstice
Merc being able to slam flying enemies downwards is a big reason he's my fave. You can make a vagrant horizontal even.
lethal lark
I got an over loading elder lemarian with dissionce as a boss the first stage
then on my second run i got red brass contraptions
iaminsomuchpaun
pain*
cosmic sky
tame citrus
This is why I don’t dissonance
scarlet tide
ok
river void
fluid notch
dorito
rare spade
thought that was a mf equipment chest for a second god damn
paper hatch
was playing on monsoon, tried to use royal capacitor against grovetender, somehow hit a nearby wisp that was next to grovetender even though my aim was spot-on, and died :/
rare spade
favourite builds?
tired axle
ghost turrets
rare spade
i have yet to actually kill mithrix with it but i like crit focused huntress with flurry
nova fern
Monster tooth + forgive me please + N’kuhana
rare spade
oh thats interesting
nova fern
Then obv ceremonial
rare spade
yeah
nova fern
Yeah I’ve been experimenting with fmp last day or so
mellow mango
nova fern
Helfire tincture + razor wire might be the most power you can receive from just two items without considering other synergies
It’s honestly a bit too good IMO
nova fern
Honestly can’t say for certain but I don’t think so, because urn just leeches them doesn’t hurt you
If you’re engineer yes
rare spade
yeah thats what i meant.
not to promote the use of bungus engineer but
actually that might work with mobile engie anyways as well
nova fern
I can’t say for certain but I think if you have urn + razor and you put the turrets side by side they just chew through anything that gets close
dull ingot
idk what survivor id actually want added into the game tbh. All of the interesting ror1 characters are in already except maybe sniper
nova fern
Because they sap each other
dull ingot
i guess maytbe the paladin guy from the poll vote a while ago would be cool
rare spade
yeah i think thatd work potentially with mobile engineer as well
mired urn + rejuvination rack + mobile engineer for those attempting to ween themselves off of bungus engineer
cough like myself cough
i mean theres already random survivor mods already, just use some random artifacts and
i mean who's to say the runner wouldnt just reset until they randomly got a survivor they want anyways
nova fern
Yeah Speedruns, barring massive balancing, will have to be survivor dependent imo
Or like categoried by survivor
rare spade
yeah the standard at this point is loader right?
nova fern
Nothing even comes close
rare spade
unfortunately :/
nova fern
And it’s not even just bc of the damage
Nobody can get to tp’s in the same league of time stage 1-3
rare spade
like i get speedrunning for a lot of games often means you gotta pick a specific character or class usually but itd be nice to be able to use others
cuz i think merc speedruns would be dope
nova fern
Yeah I’m curious to see the enveloppent of speed running and the creation of categories for this game
rare spade
what categories exist right now other than any%?
nova fern
Any%, no artifacts, low %, obliteration, all characters
From our friends at speedrun.com
rare spade
we should really have difficulty categories tbh
i dont like that drizzle is the recommended for most, if not all categories
nova fern
Yeah, I was thinking about that yesterday
Like maybe different time penalties based on difficulty?
rare spade
at least like, maybe make the no artifacts run be on rainstorm
nova fern
So monsoon is encouraged but it doesn’t have to be used to be ran
Because I think accessibility and how fun the runs are is super important
rare spade
thatd be interesting, rather than creating more categories and divisions in those categories
maybe something sort of connected to the global difficulty scaling?
nova fern
Yeah like a flat x seconds per stage on rainstorm or drizzle
Especially for stuff like 100% or all character runs
rare spade
yeah
nova fern
The speed running potential for this game is incredibly
But the proper categories and rules just have to be found
rare spade
really think itd be nice if we had seeds for non-prismatic runs
nova fern
Because 100% runs where you just get command and go for 40 stages on easy to grind the artifacts
rare spade
then we could also have a seeded run where the goal is really just optimization over rng
nova fern
really think itd be nice if we had seeds for non-prismatic runs
I think seeds is the way to do it.
rare spade
even just a singular seeded any% category
nova fern
Yeah, say I boot up the game for my 100% run and it drops me Tesla coil behemoth out of my first shrine of chance stage 1
rare spade
yeah
nova fern
(Inb4 corrected bc you can’t have Tesla coil from start 🤓)
But at the same time, set seeds remove the skill of adapting to what you get
fluid notch
what
rare spade
yeah thats why i dont think it should be the whole thing, but just a specific seeded category
just 1 category
nova fern
Oh gotcha
I also hope they add more char specific challenges that aren’t unlocks
Could really make character 100% runs cool
rare spade
yeah
some of the character challenges are also kinda like
dumb
some characters get real easy shit but then others have dumb shit
pine iris
dunked sucks
nova fern
dunked sucks
How come you don’t like it?
rare spade
yeah
nova fern
Like huntress 12x crowbar
rare spade
yeah it was kinda fun having 12 crowbars but also took me a while cuz i didnt have command yet
nova fern
I think the challenge for huntress other shift is the best designed challenge in the game
The standard to which they should be held
sly vessel
What’s the challenge again
nova fern
Land a killing blow with every hit of glaive; character specific, easy to understand but hard to get, not tied to any items, artifacts or stages (persay), rewards you with learning the character not just shiny box in steam
nova fern
I know
rare spade
i got it by accident on stage 1
nova fern
Grovetender lul
rare spade
i think its cool in theory but i straight up got it without looking
nova fern
Yeah that’s true, okay maybe not the best
But you get my point? More like that
Less like “kill big worm”
rare spade
i liked pest control. i think thats sort of my standard. easy first stage boss, but you gotta do shrine of mountain, and just
dont suck
not super hard but a little bit of difticulty, plus you gotta actually go out of your way a lil bit
nova fern
Back to speed running though, all characters or 100% runs would currently include the void fields
Which is the opposite of entertaining when it comes to speed runs
rare spade
speedruns shouldnt require spending of lunar coins imo
like i get it if youre 100%ing but thats annoying for sure
pine iris
How come you don’t like it?
rng
like
you need a dunestrider spawn on aqueduct
likely with a teleporter, because leading dunestriders sucks
nova fern
rng
like
you need a dunestrider spawn on aqueduct
likely with a teleporter, beca...
Yeah. That’s my gripe with it too. Admittedly doing it is one of the most satisfying things I’ve done in gaming bc of how much I hate dunestriders
But yeah it sucks when you can’t actively go for a challenge you just have to hope the circumstances present themselves
tacit pelican
pearl mantle
I GOT THE COMMANDO ALTERNATES
tawny plaza
Enemy detected
brave relic
I fucking love that picture
autumn cipher
the harvest will be bountiful
stable oar
kinda hoping they would fall
spare terrace
lel, just got the newt to be affected by the happiest mask, he do be lookin kinda phresh😳
tired axle
newt ghost
spare terrace
Indeed, it is a Newt ghost, better end my run, its gettin kinda long
fervent ridge
he dripped tf out
sly vessel
What if they added a log for newt
tired axle
oh no
pearl hedge
what if we kissed 😳
in the lunar bazaar? 
tired axle
no
leaden crag
⠀😳
👉 👈
merry karma
gd2
summer terrace
gd2
fluid notch
gd2
brave relic
yooo gd2
sly vessel
this is such a gd2 moment
round coyote
teal flicker
went in expecting to shoot myself just jumped off a cliff instead
sonic hawk
how does rndthursday be on stage 3 and be like 30 minutes in on eclipse
and get away with it and win
summer terrace
because people overrate time
mellow mango
I usually average like 6-7 min per stage
sonic hawk
im like watching his vids every vid is like this
summer terrace
yep
sonic hawk
mellow mango
im like watching his vids
That was your first mistake
sonic hawk
thats how i played ror1 back in the day
like an absolute moron
a bumbling fucktard
it is instinct 2 rush now
the sins of the past will not repeat
summer terrace
I like going slow
mellow mango
going slow in ror2 is good, you get items
items are good
woolie doesnt get items
dont be a woolie
sonic hawk
i assume its like
way better of a strat for some survivors than others
like this wont work with commando or artificer wont it
sonic hawk
brb
much testing to do
shaking
i still hit the first tper in like
1 minute
out of instinct
mellow mango
dont
that is what woolie does
I find that hitting tp around 3-4 min is pretty nice
mellow mango
successful acrid run incoming
sonic hawk
stage 1 with 10 items i feel absolutely filthy
mellow mango
👍
sonic hawk
i searched for every chest possible
and i still arrived at stage 4 at 18 minutes
and i have like
twice as many items
i feel like an addict in rehab
sonic hawk
i dont even have great items
pearl mantle
I tend to notice 6-7 minute stage 1 on mercenary is worse than 6-7 minute stage 1 on something like commando but that’s just because mercenary is speed
autumn haven
nova fern
Basically just how efficiently can you get all the loot that’s worth It for the time
If there’s like 3-4 chests and nice terminals don’t leave right away
brisk gale
possible 3-5 loot per stage
tired axle
or ya full loot, but that actually requires ya to plan a route
misty shore
I can’t wait to see the upcoming two survivors and shit
dull ingot
are the roles for like your mains and stuff?-
misty shore
The anniversary update says there’s 1 new one and the expansion has one
Sure the expansion is paid but it’s still 2 in total
brisk gale
are the roles for like your mains and stuff?-
nah,its just for colours
tired axle
are the roles for like your mains and stuff?-
either that or just what kind of color you want your name to be
dull ingot
oh
brisk gale
what's pink colour again??
tired axle
pink is arti
dull ingot
im a captain main :))
tired axle
cap is fun
dull ingot
captain and mercenary they are the most fun in my opinion
misty shore
Cap is fun indeed
tired axle
merc is defenitely one of the most fun for me as well
brisk gale
eh as long you're having fun,its fineeee
misty shore
Gotta love auto correct
misty shore
Hack seems almost too easy at that point though
tired axle
shock is nice if you want to focus on the boss, or against horde of many
dull ingot
late game on like my third loop I'll only use it on like legendary or large chests
tired axle
it could really use a bigger range tho
dull ingot
it could really use a bigger range tho
I completely agree
dull ingot
or the tc prototype drones
proper bear
hey i dont swing by here often but can someone help me figure out where i went wrong with this run
should i have looped more
dull ingot
I use hack and healing as I play on monsoon
dull ingot
no he died when the boss took his items
proper bear
i got melted in last phase before i could get my items back
i think i needed more items
misty shore
Ohh
dull ingot
no actually the more items you have the worse
tired axle
you can dodge his shard arttack by just strafing left/right
misty shore
Loop less
proper bear
hm
interesting idea
misty shore
Fight him as early as possible with the least amount of items
proper bear
i think i will loop more
misty shore
That’s a bad idea
proper bear
are you sure?
misty shore
It’s generally understood that the earlier is better
tired axle
the items on mithrix don't actually matter when you learn how to dodge his attacks
dull ingot
yeah
misty shore
That’s how most people I’ve ever seen beat him
dull ingot
thats true and it isnt
proper bear
i think having more items is good
tired axle
most people just fight him stage 6
dull ingot
yeah I do too
tired axle
mithrix scales way faster then the player does normally
brisk gale
mithrix king of speed
misty shore
the items on mithrix don't actually matter when you learn how to dodge his attac...
Well... it can get absurd if you have too many. Especially like brilliant behemoths or something that makes the attacks undodgable
tired axle
just doing him on stage 11 will put ya at a major dissadvantage
proper bear
oh i didnt have anything like that
misty shore
Fight him stage 6.
proper bear
the only red items i had were clovers
quartz saffron
mithrix with purity will keep on pew pewing with his needler seemingly forever
misty shore
When he takes your items there’s a good way to cheese the needles by staying on the raised bits
I main engi so I can harass him with the harpoons
Cap is great for that phase
tired axle
mithrix with purity will keep on pew pewing with his needler seemingly forever
here are his cooldowns
proper bear
around the 4 and a half hour mark the only enemies that spawn anymore are scavengers, its fun
misty shore
Oh yea
I got to that point once I think... there were still some mini bosses when I died
Most of them were using disposable missile launchers or something too
tired axle
scavs with cube are the worst
misty shore
Anyway any speculation on the oncoming two characters?
wind hearth
around the 4 and a half hour mark the only enemies that spawn anymore are scaven...
Sounds like ive made my plans for this wekkend
misty shore
I really hope chef comes out
tired axle
Anyway any speculation on the oncoming two characters?
i think there are more
wind hearth
Anyway any speculation on the oncoming two characters?
There will be more than 2
misty shore
The immediate two
wind hearth
1 for everyone and more than 1 in the dlc
misty shore
Ohh really?
tired axle
e1 says survivors
wind hearth
it said Survivors
wind hearth
Im really hoping for sniper or enforcer
tired axle
sniper yess
misty shore
And maybe some sort of summoner character would be cool.
wind hearth
Cause i hated enforcer in 1, and want him to be cool in 2
misty shore
Like a wisp controller or something
brisk gale
sniper reload mechanic
wind hearth
And maybe some sort of summoner character would be cool.
YES MORE UNITS ON THE FIELD IS WHAT THIS GAME NEEDS
brisk gale
so nice like perfect reload is so nice to got
misty shore
Ha
wind hearth
Yessss
misty shore
***YES MORE UNITS ON THE FIELD IS WHAT THIS GAME NEEDS***
It’d sure be funny
brisk gale
Jar of souls ror 1 you mean?
wind hearth
Was just kidding, actually think its a pretty cool idea
misty shore
Like some sort of necromancer or bloodhunter kinda thing
tired axle
i'm kinda hoping for a chemist survivor, they gave it as one of the examples for the mystery choice before 1.0
misty shore
Where killing enemies allows you to create different types of minions to help with map control
wind hearth
is there any official ror2 merchandise?
brisk gale
huh why not an MP chars like gungeon?
tired axle
so he creates patchwork version of em?
wind hearth
Flying beebles
tired axle
sounds interesting
brisk gale
like jar of souls???
wind hearth
uhm no not really
brisk gale
oh
wind hearth
atleast thats not what i meant
can still be cool to have that as an ability, duplicate enemies
Everything for the farm
tired axle
they fight for you tho
misty shore
Yea! Something like that
wind hearth
yeah exactly
misty shore
You have base minions and you can infuse them with Elite abilities when you kill an elite
Or other stuff
You could have an eidolons kinda creature(s) that you can upgrade and customize as you go
So you can give it items, buffs, elite aspects and such
Only issue would be that it’s AI would have to be good to make the survivor viable
wind hearth
Only issue would be that it’s AI would have to be good to make the survivor viab...
Or make it so that they use your items
then the AI wouldnt need to be that great as long as you got lots
misty shore
Ehh
wind hearth
Id rather have it be rlly hard and just command your whole army
misty shore
It’d still be annoying to lose a run because it got stuck or something
misty shore
Like you can choose to have one larger eidolon, 3 smaller ones or like 6 tiny wisps
Yea a ping system for them
That’s a good idea
wind hearth
Ngl this is starting to be a good idea hahahaha
misty shore
Yea
Catalog this
And instead of mastery skins you get ones for your minions
I’d love to see something like having 3 separate minions that you can select different types for each. Like captains pylons. So you can have one melee and two ranged ones. And allocate the items between them
It’d make a great one-man army type character
wind hearth
It would
rare grove
Micromanager engineer time
It would be like Dungeon Defenders if you were on the offensive
Does anyone know any way to get your drones to actually make it up to you on Mithrix?
Mine are usually bent on just not comin
wind hearth
Does anyone know any way to get your drones to actually make it up to you on Mit...
Never even noticed they dont get up lol
Curious to if you can get them up now aswell
rare grove
I'd like to test it, might later
Gonna loop as much as possible with a special emphasis on drones
wind hearth
Id love to see how many drones one can get
i wish they had the repair kit in 2, or something to make normal drones better
tired axle
Id love to see how many drones one can get
there is an ally limit, i believe it was around 25
tired axle
Does anyone know any way to get your drones to actually make it up to you on Mit...
drones will fly up to the arena, it just takes very long
rare grove
@tired axle What if I just like
SIT at the bottom of the launchpad area till they catch up, should that allow them to follow me more easily?
tired axle
should be the same as when you immediately go to the arena, just don't walk too far into the middle or you'll trigger mithrix's spawning sequence
pearl mantle
Purity good
brave relic
purity fun
mellow mango
purity bad
pearl mantle
Stacking purity good
mellow mango
no
pearl mantle
One purity bad
fluid notch
just get clovers
mellow mango
yeah just get clovers ez
pearl mantle
Luck is so broken if you pick up one purity just commit
purity is good with command
tranquil ridgeBOT
LittleSaigonSavage#9296 was banned
shut jewel
Straigth up ban lmao
surreal tree
sonic hawk
DO OR DIE
spring cedar
the risk of rain way
sonic hawk
by the time u see scavengers u should have enough movement speed to never get hit
full gale
one goat hoof, one red whip
sonic hawk
excellent
flint herald
die.
brave relic
Gone
fluid notch
syringe
brave relic
He got the drug
pine iris
imp
fluid notch
simp
autumn cipher
pimp
tired axle
trimp
brisk gale
chimp
merry karma
wimp
lethal lark
blimp
lethal lark
Name 1 song thats better than köppen as f word
your gonna need a bugger ukelale is not an answer
bigger* aaa
gaunt birch
Antarctic Oscillation
lethal lark
shutup
gaunt birch
lethal lark
whens the last time ro2 made you not get sleep
gaunt birch
every day
lethal lark
Risk Of Rain is a binding of what the heck
wind shadow
cant believe they're finally updating the sewer realm and sewer tier items in expansion 1 of the game!
brisk gale
well they got used
brave relic
I remember seeing it once while people were messing around with the files
sweet flax
Squids are good for looking like squids
gaunt birch
Squid Poglyp
sonic hawk
gesture blast shower
become captain
proud wraith
yahoo first run I win on monsoon without artifacts
27 tonic afflictions, purity pluss drugs on mithrix last phase are not a good combo
sonic hawk
drug
how did u guys clear out eclipse
did u take one character and get it to eclipse 8, or get everyone to the next eclipse level over time
or had no particular order
im comfortable with all characters rn so that aspect is cool
tired axle
i believe there are some people who do option 1 and some who do 2
there isn't really a rule or anything, just do what ya want
sonic hawk
yeah i just like hearing thoughts
<<the voices keep telling me to bring brilliant behemoth to mithrix>>
tired axle
also depends on how difficult ya want it, rex for example is just pain
sonic hawk
think ill do everyone equally, i cant imagine how jarring it is to go from eclipse 8 or something to 1
and just put off rex when i get to 8
tired axle
doing rex last is probably best
sonic hawk
i shall not put my big boy pants on
summer terrace
you have shattered into innumerable pieces
tired axle
that's from glass isn't it?
summer terrace
I'm not scrapper
tired axle
i am also not scrapper
summer terrace
I know
tired axle
maybe i am scrapper 😳
summer terrace
doesnt count if you copy it from the lang file
wanton jungle
risk of rain is a good game
tired axle
honestly i didn't even know ya could just get it from the lang file, would have probs been easier
merry karma
huh
summer terrace
~~honestly i didn't even know ya could just get it from the lang file, would hav...
sonic hawk
mithrix doesnt hit me
polar anvil
i glass shame
sonic hawk
probably in f and d for others
polar anvil
if its not in F you are bad
sonic hawk
:(
merry karma
loop 1mithrix run tierlist
based
sonic hawk
the first time i picked up behemoth on soup island i was so confused when phase 4 happened
and his missiles would be undodgeable
i would not even pick up that item on the off-chance that you cant find a scrapper
sonic hawk
it disables your atgs and shift in phase 4 as captain
tired axle
oh didn't think bout that
sonic hawk
the walls are not that difficult to me but certainly helps for some
captain shift is huge in phase 4
tired axle
didn't actually know he even coppied that haha
sonic hawk
on normal tierlists i put it on a solid S tier, since its both good and bad it gets a C here
tired axle
i still love how backup mags are actually an advantage in phase 4 since mithrix can just kill himself with those
autumn cipher
on normal tierlists i put it on a solid S tier, since its both good and bad it g...
infusion in f??????? what????????
sonic hawk
infusion in f??????? what????????
the extra health wont matter
his one shot attack one shots no matter what
sonic hawk
you are protected by OSP during spinning walls
and his normal attacks only do about 1/4 of your health
sonic hawk
how many healing items dop ya have loop one?
too many? like always
leaden crag
loop 1mithrix run tierlist
this seems very woolie influenced
tired axle
do not mutter the w word
sonic hawk
ive been employing a get-all-items-on-each-stage strat recently
and it works so much better
than everything ive been doing until now
tired axle
charlie strat
sonic hawk
i always have all the mobility, healing, and damage i need for mithrix, and i usually reach him at minute 40
sonic hawk
also corpse in f?
personally corpsebloom is F tier in mithrix for me because when you need to heal in that fight, you need to heal FAST
its normally a C tier for me
bc it good on some, bad on some
tired axle
i never actually get to above 10% of my health per second normally (in loop 1)
sonic hawk
it screws medkits up, thats the most annoying part
medkits are really good for that fight
sonic hawk
oh, armor plate mostly sucks against mithrix
its good to have 1-2 in case of the chimeras but it mostly harms your damage in the last phase
i didnt want to put it in C or D just so im not literally woolie
tired axle
i guess it does kinda depend on your char tho
sonic hawk
doesnt really matter that much though, in last phase u just wanna click fast and get essential items out
tired axle
loader will not care bout the plate in phase 4
sonic hawk
i really like armor plate normally
sonic hawk
loader will not care bout the plate in phase 4
Tru Tru
tired axle
actually does armor plate reduce the items ya get back in the last phase?
first time i'm thinking bout that
i'm not sure if the calculation uses damage before reductions
sonic hawk
I dont think so
its purely based off your proc coefficient
how much HP youre hurting doesnt matter, just getting many hit
Some characters are better at it than others, I think
when i first started out I assumed you got items for shooting the item colored crystals on him but i guess not
that wouldve been cool
tired axle
actually damage does matter
it looks at % of hp done and the proc coef, and then determines the chance to get an item
but it looks at the damage before repulsion armors reduction kicks in, i just tested it
sonic hawk
holy crap dodging his attacks as huntress is baby mode
sonic hawk
it looks at % of hp done and the proc coef, and then determines the chance to ge...
cool always nice 2 learn new things
tired axle
holy crap dodging his attacks as huntress is baby mode
yeah haha
sonic hawk
aw man i missed the lockbox
leaden crag
what did it have
sonic hawk
warbanner
autumn cipher
aw man i missed the lockbox
game?
sonic hawk
doig artificer run
autumn cipher
oh kay....
sonic hawk
be back in like 20 minute
eager saffron
Is it normal to have more than one legendary chest on abyssal depths
brave relic
yes, you have a extremely low chance of getting a legendary chest on most stages
eager saffron
I just got 2 for the first time since I started playing, which was last year lol
I've never gotten one before now
inner ledge
Who’s everyone’s favorite survivor?? Im genuinely curious
brave relic
sly vessel
Bungus man
brave relic
yes
sly vessel
I like merc most