one thing i forgot
#other-games
proud wren
yeah you defintely could buy it
opaque wyvern
i could sell 9 secondary encumbers and get that
and itll be 10 times faster than aya farming or radshares
proud wren
but what if you buy one and farm one
or just buy a bunch
then you sit on them and let their prices go back up
opaque wyvern
someone bought one of my secondary encumbers basically instantly
they bought all 5
easy 55 platinum
fringe trout
Nisha's showdown kinda nice at the very start of the playthrough tbh
got a bunch of damage with the pistol on the boss and it's just really easy to run through the place with two jakobs weapons
tidal raven
Me? Brainrotted? Cant be 
fringe trout
wow the Law and Order tree is definitely pretty melee based, interesting
probably wont be investing in it with the purpose of using melee attacks more often though
a chance for bullet ricochet if i miss my shots sounds real cool and great for me, just unfortunate that it is near the very bottom of one of her trees
bitter ridge
so close enough from gaige eh?
orchid idol
Me? Brainrotted? Cant be <:engiclueless:1087124689727525014>
I named it IP grabber because the bottom path is
Pretty
Good.
drifting kernel
YOINK
fringe trout
definitely focusing on making showdown better, auto aim with other bonuses on such a short cooldown is pretty nice
drifting kernel
The tower
Is pretty good
true!
i wish it had t3 lead and top path water thing being on the t3 (if ice can have it why cant mermonkey), other than that i think its good
opaque wyvern
its slightly unbalanced, nothing crazy
3 more secondary encumber until glaive prime
drifting kernel
also its funny how mermonkey is like 1000000000x a support tower than beast handler and its magic
lilac inlet
a chance for bullet ricochet if i miss my shots sounds real cool and great for m...
what tree is tombstone in cuz i remember that shit was 💀
tidal raven
probably wont be investing in it with the purpose of using melee attacks more of...
Yeah alot of that tree is (frankly cracked) sustain
You get a chance to heal for the damage you took, 2 fold
Just taking Order, Law and Wanted boosts you pretty hard
If you wanna just gunsling going Blue/Red with a pinch of yellow does you well
@fringe trout
Probably not optimal
fringe trout
would match my very sub optimal gameplay
i will miss 3 sniper shots in a row on a rapidly approaching target and i'll still be using the sniper until i land a shot with it
drifting kernel
finally unlocked every hero
time to grind 56000 monkey money for skins
if i did all of my medals i could get it decently fast 
or just spend 4 days straight macroing infernal
tidal raven
Time to run some Mermonkey tests then never play the game after
tidal raven
i will miss 3 sniper shots in a row on a rapidly approaching target and i'll sti...
I just dont use snipers
Then wonder wy my SMG shots dont do well from afar
In Gearbox's infinite wisdom they made bullets for close range guns move slower instead of decreasing accuracy
hollow pilot
monkey :3
opaque wyvern
got my final secondary encumber
ill be able to buy glaive prime after this
so much faster than void trace farming and aya farming
lilac inlet
In Gearbox's infinite wisdom they made bullets for close range guns move slower ...
they did both
tidal raven
Both?
Bruh
lilac inlet
ok im gonna nitpick but, smgs def have a way higher spread
the "accuracy" stat you see on weapon cards isnt actually accuracy it's spread
accuracy is a completely unrelated stat
i fucking hate this
accuracy, the actual accuracy attribute, is the crosshair size and snipers have the worst 
tidal raven
I havent noticed spread on my not shotguns at all
Maybe im just not paying attenton
lilac inlet
spread is almost impossible to destinguish from accuracy on anything with one pellet
otherwise it determines how far apart pellets are
ie a gun can have 0 accuracy but spread still makes it deviate
and this is what happens when you aim down sights on some guns
lilac inlet
ie a gun can have 0 accuracy but spread still makes it deviate
also, accuracy goes from min to max. 0 being the crosshair basically being tiny
but ofc the game makes no mention to you about the actual accuracy stat and instead falsefully tells you the spread value by proxy and labels it as accuracy
lilac inlet
i just have no idea why making bl2 and tps be a completely backwards downgrade from bl1's gunplay
tidal raven
I love
How theres a crosshair size stat
lilac inlet
technically speaking guns have the same stats but the lack of proficiency in bl2 make everything shit
tidal raven
I should play BL1
lilac inlet
I love
How theres a crosshair size stat
i think some relics actually have an "accuracy min/max" boost thing
bitter ridge
bl1 felt too slow for my tastes
lilac inlet
which is the honest to god accuracy pool attribute
tidal raven
Remove Proficency
Dont buff any of the weapons
It sounds like
opaque wyvern
yuhhh
lilac inlet
> Remove Proficency
> Dont buff any of the weapons
It sounds like
exactly
gbx's infinite wisdom
opaque wyvern
oh dang it comes prebuilt wtf
lilac inlet
i have to shrink accuracy and spread values to like half just for it to feel like bl1
an older game.
bl2 really do be outdated even for 2012
tidal raven
Gearbox are truly the paragons of balance
lilac inlet
and this is their flagship franchise
and then when they improved on it, people hated it.
truly, i love the bl community
tho, they were kinda smoking shit when they buffed the bl3 harold for no reason
(ok the reason was, and i am not exaggerating in any way shape or form, the bl reddit was nostalgia high and didn't know how to do damage)
like actually the reddit
and also gbx balancing eridium prices around streamers who, very adamantly, said no one else has as much legitimate eridium as they do or that they even save edit
opaque wyvern
im genuinely gonna start tweaking because of this jump
tidal raven
(ok the reason was, and i am not exaggerating in any way shape or form, the bl r...
Classic Reddit
loud saffron
i remember legit grinding eridium when i was a Wee Lad on the PS3
getting the game on PC, booting up, remembering that
whipped out cheat engine cuz fuck that
did the exact same thing for moonstones
opaque wyvern
im going insane
fringe trout
i must be stupid if after all this time i really struggle with the Deadlift fight
opaque wyvern
im guessing this is the hardest room in farewell
fringe trout
the rest of the game i've been fine but everytime i make it to Deadlift on a new playthrough it is suffering
loud saffron
hey is it normal for shock damage in tps to like, stop you from shooting for a moment
felt that the worst in the deadlift fight and i legit cant tell if its a thing i forgot about or a mod i installed
orchid idol
im guessing this is the hardest room in farewell
no
fringe trout
i dont think it does, it just disorients me severely
orchid idol
Also I'm pretty sure you have to hold spacebar to actually go high
loud saffron
cant believe unofficial community patch would troll me like this... and or exodus mod...
opaque wyvern
why didnt i know this earlier
hollow mirage
orchid idol
I kinda just got into the habit of fucking slamming it down and not letting it go
opaque wyvern
this ENTIRE time
hollow mirage
I didnt notice they released the soundtracks a couple days ago
opaque wyvern
i wasnt pressing space
lilac inlet
cant believe unofficial community patch would troll me like this... and or exodu...
prob exodus
exotek told me exodus bad
hollow mirage
I probably wouldnt have noticed if it didnt give em to me for free
opaque wyvern
this room is actually really easy
loud saffron
prob exodus
a slight inconvenience
fringe trout
this stupid fuck and his jump pads i swear
he actually spent a whole minute jumping from the same two bounce pads because he kept landing on them and couldn't get out
lilac inlet
me when you prob didnt get the shock sniper from janey
tidal raven
Deadlift?
Uhhh
I tried focusing the adds and staying in cover
Youe shields are your health early on, his shock laser is painful
fringe trout
i was struggling to actually shoot him because he just couldn't walk normally for 5 seconds
tidal raven
Iirc being really close to him makes him walk backwards, usually away from pads
I did it with a friend so its probably harder to pull off
fringe trout
yeah being close is also how i died
anyways finished it because he finally managed to not land on another jump pad
tidal raven
Yay
Sometimes it really is just luck
How I beat the 2 man boss
Whos kinda like boom bewm but for tps
lilac inlet
shoot them
loud saffron
red belly?
loud saffron
hm
tidal raven
I prayed and was bestowed the ability to progress
lilac inlet
modern schooner
Red belly sucked playing on console but was easy on pc
lilac inlet
i fucking hate this gun so much
modern schooner
I wonder if it could have anything to do with how shooting a small flying target is hard as fuck with a controller
loud saffron
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618688011009261568/1269036587405283478/Bo...
im ngl i stopped using tediore guns because of the running-out-of-ammo noise change they do
something about them felt grating on my ears
lilac inlet
i like how 0.03kb/s they sound
tidal raven
Tediores eat my ammo cause I have a reload reflex
loud saffron
i get they sound like that because digistruct, but Me Ears
lilac inlet
but the anarchy specifically is
now it's a very..very unbelievably strong shotgun
but the reload on this gun specifically manages to always track me down and nuke me
the radius is larger than fucking tandava it feels like
even after switching it to sticky and chucking it as far as i can possibly throw it
it somehow comes back to an enemy im shooting and nukes me
tidal raven
Atleast you arent using the tediore that actually just has a like 30% chance to explode in your face and kill you
lilac inlet
i hate this gun so much, especially considering how unbelievably strong it is
the dark army, however
lilac inlet
Atleast you arent using the tediore that actually just has a like 30% chance to ...
yoooo boxy gun
i really love the dark amy tho
actually lets me almost afk gtd
tidal raven
Okay nvm its not a flat chance its based on ammo left
This is just a troll for me specifically
loud saffron
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618688011009261568/1268716123457847348/Bo...
this is like 3 vaseline filters away from looking like warframe
tidal raven
They saw Saryn
lilac inlet
wait does it actually look like warframe lmao
i know a few people who play it but ive never seen it
tidal raven
I can see some fps warframe in there
Warframe is mostly clearing 50 thousand goons with op builds
loud saffron
unfortunately its still a ways off from warframe
i dont see enough comically mobile jumping
opaque wyvern
i can somewhat see it
bitter ridge
You can move fast as hell with the right stuff in 2
orchid idol
Making it work
tidal raven
oh is warframe not an fps
Yeah its a third person shoote
lilac inlet
huh apparently non unique amp shields dont apply to unlisted pellets for sal's offhand specifically
loud saffron
warframe has Cardboard Cutout of Gordon Freeman, thus making it the better game
drifting kernel
Bl3 has light show
My beloved…….
fringe trout
torgue yelling my ear off while i fail to boost across a chasm
loud saffron
he must explode everything, your ears included
modern schooner
We love torgue
tidal raven
huh apparently non unique amp shields dont apply to unlisted pellets for sal's o...
Sal is the peak of Gearbox code
The ability to dualweild breaks borderlands 2 as a whole for some reason
proud wren
oh dang it comes prebuilt wtf
wdym
opaque wyvern
wdym
bought a glaive prime set from a guy, didnt have to build the parts
unless thats just a prime weapon thing
proud wren
yeah you don't have to build weapon parts
opaque wyvern
neat
proud wren
prime weapon parts that is
paper eagle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618688011009261568/1266818105758187650/...
funny i just restarted that game yesterday, do you might know where i can get up to date content for builds and good legendaries, borderlands 3 on youtube seems dead cause i just find one year old vids
lilac inlet
funny i just restarted that game yesterday, do you might know where i can get up...
i dont trust ANY bl youtubers, and yeah none of the actual cool people really upload. i would just stick to the actual borderlands discord for that
tho theres ancient rune for zane specifically
lotta the people who made a lot of popular builds are not youtubers
paper eagle
i completly started fresh so i have no old characters , i started with a fl4k and try to find a good build , currently i do one with big damage from my pet
hollow pilot
AH i keep forgetting dark souls on switch
and every time i remember it i want it even more
paper eagle
but i thought that zane is "meta" cause i did watch speedruns of bl3 and is used there often
hollow pilot
sorry for just dropping that out of the blue in the middle of yall conversation
lilac inlet
but i thought that zane is "meta" cause i did watch speedruns of bl3 and is used...
all of the characters are used for time trials
paper eagle
maybe im not up to date then
lilac inlet
zane is only the fastest by like a few seconds and somehow moze tends to be slower
but quag hypothesizes that if someone was less skill issue, flak is actually the fastest
paper eagle
but in the end i just try to find a spot for bl 3 builds
but you said discord so i give it alook there
and hope its not dead
lilac inlet
it isnt but at these hours the massive nerds are off
tho also a lot of the old theorycrafters kinda dont talk much anymore
but hey some time trials people are there
paper eagle
btw funny side thing , that one legendary "the flood" i seem to be "cursed" in my current fl4k gamethrough right now cause i got it dropped like 6 times already but specficly that legendary ,im getting alot which is no suprise it is bl3 but the the flood specifly drops alot
lilac inlet
for me it was the seein dead
paper eagle
that one i havent seen once yet
lilac inlet
i have not once ever found a use for it
tho i barely started my first zane like last week so
paper eagle
in the past like around 2021 i tried to farm for the infinfty (cause my got it never dropped in bl2 bad luck) and it dropped for me yesterday 2 mins after the flood very early game , which made me laugh and drop a tear in pain
lilac inlet
your fault for farming an infinity
needs such specific parts just to be outperformed by a blue pistol
paper eagle
your fault for farming an infinity
ik that but well it was 2021 and i just wanted the feeling for an infinite, it was helpful early game yesterday cause it like at the start of beginning from maliwan chapter
and it was electricity
*shock
lilac inlet
oh i was talking about your bl2 infinity
paper eagle
nah bl2 gives me such bad luck with legendaries
lilac inlet
it's somehow worse in 3 but honestly anything works in the story
paper eagle
yeah i heard that , thats why i wanted to see what legendaries are good in 2024 ,
and i dont want to use the guardian angel shotgun because i saw it , never had it, but that gameplay seems to boring for me
lilac inlet
your gun barely matters as much as your class mod, skill tree and artifact
and annoints too
lilac inlet
and i dont want to use the guardian angel shotgun because i saw it , never had i...
ah
everyone fucking hates that thing
paper eagle
fr?
lilac inlet
and uses it anyway because non gun builds are cool
but it's not always needed
the GA is an un- i fucking hate this thing
no one likes it, but they still use it
paper eagle
i get that , big numbers go brrr but thats why i like gun builds more
lilac inlet
ive been getting into non gun stuff
paper eagle
i saw you posted a meele video from amara , so ig meele build
lilac inlet
its not melee im just meleeing for the reload cancel
that's pestilence amara
p much tailor made to delete both takedowns and any mobbing
my actual melee amara is more like uhh lemme see
paper eagle
ah my bad , still not that deep in end game and builds after such a long time for me, most of my knowledge is basicly gone cause in my 2 years happend to much school shit that my brain needed room for new information XD
paper eagle
the commentary got all my attention
huh, tbh i didnt play so much amara but i figured it would focus alot with her meele skills
lilac inlet
it's more like using melee items
im kinda just spamming the stinger's nova to proc combo breaker so i can spam more stinger nova and tandava
but when i dont have that, i use a face puncher for body and mind
it's p much quag's cast stab build but slightly tweaked
i have not done any true melee amara
paper eagle
true melee amara dosent sound really fun i would imagine but ididnt tried it
krieg in bl2 other hand
lilac inlet
this game is not too friendly to true melee but it works
paper eagle
i heard there is a build for moze with a shild that doubles your shots ,that sounded fun for me
but basicly igoring that mecha
lilac inlet
the infernal wish is that shield, it doesnt double but adds one projectile
which can be v strong with launchers especially
some ammo hungry launchers which moze can mitigate
but everyone can use that shield
esp with cutpurse artifacts where you just slam like 2 enemies and instantly fill your rocket pool
but it's not limited to rockets ofc
even then i should say im not the most knowledgeable on bl3, im kinda still figurin the game out and just talk a lot about it
paper eagle
call me boring but a build where u use dahl automatic rifles sounds personaly fun to me cause for somereason i love the automatic dahl rifles in bl3
lilac inlet
i love dahl ar's, they have the most grounded effects usually but they're satisfying
paper eagle
right !
lilac inlet
if you play flak and zane you can uh
theres some really fucking stupid dahl ar's
amara kinda works fine with them but if some of her skills can kinda steal the effect
but theres also the soulrender and hail, so
really only moze doesnt shine too much with most dahl ar's
paper eagle
really only moze doesnt shine too much with most dahl ar's
shame tbh thought she would
but first of all i have to get to endgame
lilac inlet
you can still make them work fine
paper eagle
im not even done with casual kampagne
lilac inlet
they just dont synergize too too well with her
paper eagle
do they still support bl3 thought?
paper eagle
damn already ? are they working actually on bl4 now?
paper eagle
damn i had expectation for bl3 when it wasnt out yet , cause of pre sequel (call me weird but i think its underrated)
But i have no idea what they will do for bl4 , like the end and story of bl3 was to random for me
lilac inlet
tps absolutely is underrated
but it does lack content unfortunately
it has such great skill tree design but like nothing to use it on since 2k aus went under during development
lilac inlet
i only really played claptrap, i did not play much tps
and what i did i played claptrap
some things i also noticed while digging around that i didnt know before was that timothy had access to two? double dips in his trees. idk what else he might have but hey
paper eagle
i tried all besides dlc and from all i tried claptrap the least , he was the least fun for me but i think rather i did not get far in the skill tree with him im sure he can be made fun to play
lilac inlet
sponsored by, and integrity, are potential double dips
it takes a lot of time to get to max level in tps unfortunately
they shafted xp gain in that game
paper eagle
talking about tps makes me wanna drop bl3 already and retry tps again but i have to resist
i already dropped my 5th run of tiny tinas wonderland cause the skill trees got boring and went back to bl3
lilac inlet
i need to start modding tps
prob gonna use some ucp changes as a start and work from there
dont even wanna change the skill trees
just more guns and way way more xp
paper eagle
are there really mods for tps? i mean as for my knowledge its the least popular
lilac inlet
theres tps exodus mostly
but a lot of the modders i know keep em as private projects
paper eagle
huh damn
fringe trout
so far 0 deaths to enemies, 2 to electric barrels going off behind me
tidal raven
blazing mist
imagine nk after this
drifting kernel
so true
fringe trout
the only assault rifles i've gotten as Nisha so far was a weak torgue gun on the moon and jakobs guns, this kinda sucks
i have a decent enough smg for Showdown but i definitely need to buy a bit more max capacity for it
fringe trout
huh
fringe trout
alright i did the first failable mission of tps and i finally got an assault rifle that i cant use
lilac inlet
oh the clairvoyance for sure
i still have not gotten around to really...
working on this at all
mainly cuz apparently, crit effects are a bitch to code!
fringe trout
oh the racing mission, my first least favorite mission ever
borderlands cars are fine enough until the mission asks to race against a timer in them
tidal raven
Borderlands cars are generally painful
fringe trout
i just realized somehow my entire inventory is green weapons
i got the gun donation quest and i do not have a single white gun
limpid sequoia
.004
orchid idol
Making mermonkey useful
drifting kernel
Making mermonkey useful
broke: using mermonkey for the stall and dot detonation
woke: using mermonkey for boat farming
fringe trout
so i accidentally did a moonstone grind
almost every other normal interaction is on Y on switch but normal grind is X
at least i got a cool sniper to just pick off basic enemy heads with for now
proud wren
why would you talk trash about my glorious basmu to begin with
tidal raven
Making mermonkey useful
Landboat farming
I love this
atomic spear
why would you talk trash about my glorious basmu to begin with
never again, basmu good
opaque wyvern
atomic spear
electric euphona + fortifier stomps murmur at high level
tidal raven
so i accidentally did a moonstone grind
That luneshine 😔
opaque wyvern
glaive prime should finish crafting today, super excited
fringe trout
"Quick charge shield"
99 shields 157 recharge 1.25s delay for 2k, kinda insane how i am not paying that much to not tank
proud wren
glaive prime should finish crafting today, super excited
good build for glaive
bane mods are really good on glaive due to how slash works
opaque wyvern
i always forget to change bane mods so ill switch it out for something else
proud wren
if you really don"t wanna run bane mod, then run gladiator might
opaque wyvern
got it
proud wren
keep in mind that if you do, melee duplicate wont work
opaque wyvern
why not?
proud wren
but that wont matter if you dont use it and you probably wont cause its expensive asf
proud wren
why not?
only works on base crits, and if you use gladiator might then you will get orange crits
opaque wyvern
well thats silly
proud wren
yeah
proud wren
you could get red crits if you do max combo
but that build just lets you easily spam heavy attack and youll have 2x combo with every throw
opaque wyvern
hildryn because?
proud wren
less overshield
retaliation works better if its just normal shield and not overshield
opaque wyvern
does pillage grant shields or overshields?
opaque wyvern
thats pretty good
proud wren
well yknow overshield is gained when you have past max shield
but hildryn has like 4000 base shields so
opaque wyvern
30% melee for every 200 shields and 30% for every 400 overshield
proud wren
it caps at 420% damage
opaque wyvern
with harrow thats a base damage increase of 210%
since i have 1400 shields with him
proud wren
only 1400?
opaque wyvern
maxed redirection only grants 1400
i would need around 3000 extra overshields for mmaxed melee retaliation
proud wren
oh i have 200 cause i have archon shards slotted into him
shouldnt you have acess to archon hunts by now
opaque wyvern
i do
proud wren
do you not do them?
opaque wyvern
i just dont have the helminth unlocked
proud wren
bruh
opaque wyvern
do you not do them?
i do them when they come up
proud wren
once per week
hollow mirage
good build for glaive
faction mod spotted 
proud wren
its good on glaive 🤷♂️
opaque wyvern
its 'good' on everything
proud wren
people call it double dipping or smthn i dont know a whole lot about how that works
opaque wyvern
people call it double dipping or smthn i dont know a whole lot about how that wo...
attack does 100 damage
slash does 100 damage
add 100% damage (no faction)
attack does 200 damage
slash does 200 damage
add 100% damage (faction)
attack does 200 damage
slash does 400 damage
proud wren
yeah thats really good
opaque wyvern
so yeah bane mods are broken on status builds
opaque wyvern
but i dont find them fun so ill be switching it
proud wren
i dont like using them either, i just use them in simulacrum
i play the game once in every few months so im not gonna remember to switch bane mods
opaque wyvern
i could just play rhino instead or something
since his roar functions as a faction bonus
proud wren
yeah but then youre playing as rhino
fringe trout
i could just play rhino instead or something
or you could get helminth and put roar on other frames(at a reduced effect)
proud wren
true
opaque wyvern
that too
opaque wyvern
should probably work on getting the helminth today
or maybe tomorrow, considering how annoying it is to get those stupid animal tags
animal conservation should be straight up removed as a required mechanic
bitter ridge
Rhino mid, helminth fodder
opaque wyvern
i wish your aoe weapons could stagger other players
proud wren
animal conservation should be straight up removed as a required mechanic
really isnt as bad as you say it is
especially cause you can use calls and lures
opaque wyvern
and also it has like
no actual use
aside from being made mandatory in some places
proud wren
it has use for the animal tag vendors
so if you want a vulpaphyla or the dog thing then you will need to buy stuff from those fellas
fringe trout
got this rocket launcher in bl:tps that explodes like a grenade when reloaded
you wont believe what i immediately did when i finally used it in combat
loud saffron
tediore rocket launchers, surprising the player since 2012
opaque wyvern
really hate leeches
fringe trout
i got second wind then immediately downed myself afterwards while taking cover
opaque wyvern
they sit there and contribute absolutely nothing then walk away with their maxed weapons
fringe trout
me fr
people go in there with whole builds to do it themselves and join pubs because being near other people gives more, so i just let them do their shit
fringe trout
i really dont get it tbh
most people dont build nuke builds dependent on other people being there or some shit
especially wouldn't with pubs players
how many times will i fucking blow myself up with this really cool and fun freezing rocket launcher
fringe trout
so far im on 3 but i cant complain anymore because it always picks me right back up
been dedicating all my skill points right now to nisha's right tree, might work on the middle instead soon though
4/5 on snap shot and 5/5 on bona fide grit +3 from currently equipped class mod, put 1 on unchained because of the mod i had previously but that one is kinda less important for now
my class mod is also +2 on Faster 'n You but i haven't even gotten close to that yet, because i have 0 points on the middle tree
opaque wyvern
one more mr until i can finally stop
is it just me or are all melee riven mods way harder than normal rivens
proud wren
<:twistedscavenger:742100747960844330>
just get a riven cipher at that point
easier than doing that mess
fringe trout
opaque wyvern
love torids ability to apply hundreds of toxin stacks every second
must be good for blight
i revised my torid build a little bit
tripled its dps
crimson meadow
opaque wyvern
just a budget build but should work
crimson meadow
Do you have a build for corufell?
hollow mirage
I do
opaque wyvern
never used it
crimson meadow
no idea how to build it
Me neither
hollow mirage
its not a hard weapon to build for tbh
its just a heavy attack weapon so you do a heavy attack build 
hollow mirage
not my style of weapon but it absolutely shreds with Kullervo
crimson meadow
True
opaque wyvern
turns out that primary blight procs when toxin does damage
Basically it lasts forever on torid
hollow mirage
huge
crimson meadow
Basically it lasts forever on torid
I won't be surprised the next thing that comes with lotus eaters is torid nerf
proud wren
corufell is pretty cool but i feel like you have to do some shenanigans with kullervo or voruna to make it really effective
opaque wyvern
I won't be surprised the next thing that comes with lotus eaters is torid nerf
its incarnon isnt even the best one lol
hollow mirage
I always found Corufell kinda weak without something like Wrathful Advance or Mirage
opaque wyvern
its broken but not mega broken
hollow mirage
Mirage with Wrathful Advance is a force to be reckoned with.
crimson meadow
corufell is pretty cool but i feel like you have to do some shenanigans with kul...
For me it's just build up combo and use 1 and 3 and you're in cash money
opaque wyvern
yuh
hollow mirage
we're about to get a little funny
crimson meadow
Is rauta worth using for kul? I mainly use it just to quickly build combo but I do have a riven for it
hollow mirage
without clones and just letting the main mirage hit
opaque wyvern
no damage 😔
hollow mirage
I wanna try this with the Glassmaker sword
opaque wyvern
the toxin procs deal alright damage though
crimson meadow
I wanna try this with the Glassmaker sword
What's with it?
hollow mirage
it can turn enemies to glass, and then a heavy ground slam sends out a shockwave that makes glassed enemies explode
opaque wyvern
i revised my torid build a little bit
anyway this was the build i was trying to beat
i beat it 
crimson meadow
anyway this was the build i was trying to beat
crimson meadow
Is rauta worth using for kul? I mainly use it just to quickly build combo but I ...
?
hollow mirage
proud wren
its 10 levels away
SP gets armor and health bonuses yknow not just levels
opaque wyvern
SP gets armor and health bonuses yknow not just levels
i had the steel path modifier on yknow
proud wren
oh i had no clue
opaque wyvern
had it on against the lancers too
id say my current torid is entry level steel path worthy
crimson meadow
Noice
hollow mirage
I love seeing tons of numbers bunched together
opaque wyvern
my glaive prime is still ass but i dont have half the mods to make it good
crimson meadow
my glaive prime is still ass but i dont have half the mods to make it good
Xoris is a worthy alternative
hollow mirage
Xoris and Melee Influence
opaque wyvern
Neat, i already have an adapter
opaque wyvern
melee retaliation is the arcane i want
crimson meadow
I ain't joking, a guy who bought my xoris riven (I sold my first riven letsgooo) told me that he spent almost 5k plat on his glaive but like half as less on xoris that does same stuff (damage is less ofc but enough to count as same)
opaque wyvern
how do you spend 5000 platinum on glaive
proud wren
melee retaliation is the arcane i want
p sure its cheap
hollow mirage
xoris now has insane AOE potential because of Melee Influence
opaque wyvern
how do you spend 5000 platinum on glaive
genuinely
proud wren
p sure its cheap
yeah it costs like 40p
crimson meadow
Bro no idea lol
opaque wyvern
buying rivens for more than 1k platinum is silly
crimson meadow
Pretty much can get you rich if you get lucky
opaque wyvern
buy the base riven then go kuva farm
proud wren
buying rivens for more than 1k platinum is silly
buying rivens for more than 300p is silly
opaque wyvern
or yknow, dont buy rivens
opaque wyvern
buying rivens for more than 300p is silly
buying rivens is silly
proud wren
no not really
crimson meadow
How do you effectively farm kuva btw?
proud wren
if you have the plat to buy rivens then you're probably already rich
opaque wyvern
How do you effectively farm kuva btw?
i usually do floods
proud wren
How do you effectively farm kuva btw?
only real way to farm kuva is floods
opaque wyvern
hot take but rivens are a horrible bandaid mechanic
incarnons do the same thing a million times better
opaque wyvern
i despise rivens
proud wren
they're pretty busted
opaque wyvern
they are just a bandaid fix for weak weapons
opaque wyvern
proud wren
i said that after yknow
opaque wyvern
ok you have to be rage baiting
im not???
hollow mirage
incarnons do the same thing a million times better
Incarnon's literally do the job that Rivens were originally made for
so ye, youre right
opaque wyvern
Incarnon's literally do the job that Rivens were originally made for
and better
crimson meadow
they are just a bandaid fix for weak weapons
Technically incarnons are bandaids for weak weapons
Like ceramic dagger
opaque wyvern
Technically incarnons are bandaids for weak weapons
they're the proper way to make weak weapons not irrelevant
crimson meadow
No one wanted it until it's incarnon arrived
hollow mirage
the whole point of rivens were breath new life into old weapons.
thats what Incarnons did instead
proud wren
i love rivens so much
crimson meadow
Guys quick, what is your favorite open world
proud wren
they allow for goofy things and gambling
opaque wyvern
Guys quick, what is your favorite open world
just cause 3
proud wren
Guys quick, what is your favorite open world
they're all shit
opaque wyvern
the only justification for rivens are that they sell well
crimson meadow
just cause 3
What, I meant warframe
opaque wyvern
What, I meant warframe
then none of them
crimson meadow
Damn
proud wren
they sell well, make good weapons even better, and negatives are silly sometimes
opaque wyvern
they sell well, make good weapons even better, and negatives are silly sometimes
another issue, balancing
proud wren
are you really worried about balancing in a game like warframe
opaque wyvern
they make already broken weapons (glaive) several times stronger (1.3 dispo)
proud wren
it shouldn't have a 1.3 dispo
are you sure you're looking at glaive and not glaive prime
opaque wyvern
pretty sure you can put base rivens on the prime
proud wren
you can but their dispos differ
opaque wyvern
if you get a godrolled glaive riven then put it on glaive prime?
proud wren
yes
opaque wyvern
does its stats magically decrease
proud wren
there isn't rivens for prime weapons
proud wren
does its stats magically decrease
yes it does
opaque wyvern
wow
proud wren
using rivens on hidden gem weapons is so fun and busted because the dispo is super high
opaque wyvern
it already does good damage
proud wren
could be better
opaque wyvern
if i do a billion damage, then doing 100000% more damage will hardly make a difference
opaque wyvern
ive hardly built this thing whatsoever ofcourse it tickles gokstads
proud wren
rivens are just another tool you can use to make weapons better, they aren't required
opaque wyvern
i dont even have a place i would slot it on my torid
proud wren
doesn't really matter cause i don't think you're planning to get a riven for it
opaque wyvern
im not
my torid is not steel path worthy
nice to know
definitely a massive wall between steel path and star chart
proud wren
yeah it’s when you have to properly mod all your stuff
opaque wyvern
i have a good build ready, i just need to grind it
endo is gonna be the worst grind
crimson meadow
How do you even farm endo? Is it just kela's arena?
opaque wyvern
its inconsistent
you get good endo though
around 3000-4000
narmer bounties are one of the fastest ways
mermonkey has to be my favorite tower so far
modern schooner
I should unlock them
But that would require playing bloons and playing more bloons
crimson meadow
Does anybody have that pic of Albrecht saying dump it from glaive's warframe market page?
proud wren
bounties maybe?
zariman bounties, arbitrations
opaque wyvern
i hear you can around 3k/minute in steel path arena
proud wren
oh and doing maroo's daily treasure hunt gives you an ayatan sculpture
proud wren
you just get to the end of the path
crimson meadow
Just need to do them quickly
opaque wyvern
got confused and didnt know where to go
proud wren
one of them i have no idea how to do, one is a super long hallway with obstacles
crimson meadow
I can show when I get home
proud wren
depends on the tileset
opaque wyvern
i probably just got the confusing one then
proud wren
getting rid of your duplicate mods is an easy way of getting endo
opaque wyvern
i got a pretty good tileset
just a few void slings and i get the treasure
do i get bonus endo for filling up the treasures or is that just for show
crimson meadow
You do get
proud wren
if you wanna pay platinum, you can buy a ton of ayatan anasa sculptures from people
opaque wyvern
how much they cost?
proud wren
10 platinum a pop and they're filled
opaque wyvern
nevermind then
proud wren
not too bad i'd say
opaque wyvern
i was gonna sell one
i have to wonder why auto install is locked behind mr10
so stupid
proud wren
10 plat for 3.45k endo
opaque wyvern
only need 11k more to max my galv chamber
proud wren
nice
you don't really need to get like the last upgrade
you'd be losing out on like 5% stats maybe but it'd save you a large amount of endo
opaque wyvern
i lose out on +20% multishot
proud wren
dang
opaque wyvern
each upgrade gives quite a bit of multishot
proud wren
mm
i usually skimp out on the last upgrade for my warframe mods cause i don't really need like the 5% more strength or whatever
opaque wyvern
im a fan of getting the most out of my builds
proud wren
i am too but ig skipping the last upgrade of weapon mods isn't as smart as skipping the last upgrade of warframe mods
opaque wyvern
its mostly just a galvanized mod thing
the on kill effects make up a large portion of the mods strength
proud wren
yeah its the only reason you use them
im p sure they have just about the same if not lower stats than their counterparts
opaque wyvern
sold most of my duplicates for endo, just need 1 million credits
proud wren
index time
opaque wyvern
im p sure they have just about the same if not lower stats than their counterpar...
slightly lower
proud wren
exactly
opaque wyvern
index time
proud wren
index is easy wdym
opaque wyvern
i have no idea how to play index
proud wren
kill enemies, hoard a lot of shards, depost them
you want to play a tank frame cause shards will lower your health and shields
opaque wyvern
i just need more shards than the enemies to win right
proud wren
yes
the more shards you're carrying, the more bonus shards youll get when depositing
you should probably play public
sometimes they're stupid but usually they carry
opaque wyvern
high risk index?
proud wren
yea
opaque wyvern
100 points cant be that hard
opaque wyvern
revenant
proud wren
he makes you invincible or smthn right
proud wren
holding shards also reduces your max energy i think
either that or your energy constantly goes down while you have shards
opaque wyvern
i just gotta keep mesmer skin up
proud wren
as long as you have the energy for it then you're good
opaque wyvern
index is easy
proud wren
yeah exactly
fringe trout
either that or your energy constantly goes down while you have shards
both
and the more shards, the quicker the drain
maybe not actually i think it's just quicker because you have barely any energy to drain
still, revenant with somewhat ranked arcane energize or any other way to get more instant energy can get up to 20 shards for the +10 bonus and still have mesmer skin if you use it very quickly
crimson meadow
the more shards you're carrying, the more bonus shards youll get when depositing
What?? No
The highest bonus is like 15 shards
opaque wyvern
its 10
crimson meadow
Yea
proud wren
What?? No
wdym no
i must have like worded it so you misunderstood
but i meant that when you carry high amounts of shards, the game will grant you a bonus upon depositing the shards into the bank
crimson meadow
but i meant that when you carry high amounts of shards, the game will grant you ...
But bonus lowers when you get more than 10
Wait the hell does efficiency means
proud wren
in what
crimson meadow
In index
proud wren
idk i've never heard of that
crimson meadow
I just checked wiki for index
proud wren
might be an error
crimson meadow
You're right to a certain extent, you do get bonus, but your don't need to carry more than 20
crimson meadow
Fandom wiki jumpscare
opaque wyvern
finally maxed it
gonna have to start putting forma on my torid to put more mods on
proud wren
finally maxed it
only like 3 or 4 more galvanized mods that are important to have
proud wren
it'd be real convenient if you just had the plat to buy em all
opaque wyvern
shiii i need like 5 more
proud wren
which ones
opaque wyvern
crosshairs, shot, diffusion, aptitude, and scope
proud wren
prioritize the primary ones ofc
opaque wyvern
the red crits are nice
could probably exchange it considering im playing harrow though
proud wren
can't really use it on aoe weapons
opaque wyvern
primary blight in the zteel zath zircuit, nice
proud wren
if soma incarnon isn't in next week's selection im going to lose it
the past two haven't had what i wanted
opaque wyvern
soma incarnon is in next weeks selection dw
proud wren
is there like a schedule?
opaque wyvern
yeah it goes in rotations
proud wren
sweet
opaque wyvern
soma incarnon is next rotation
proud wren
i gotta start farming plat to buy soma prime then
opaque wyvern
proud wren
ooh the week after that is crazy
stalker weapons and sibear
im curious as to what those are like
blazing mist
hey what starter melee do you recommend hunting for
opaque wyvern
im not a big fan of week 7 incarnons, but ill probably just go hate and dread
proud wren
hey what starter melee do you recommend hunting for
the skana and the bo?
proud wren
the bo is a long range staff that's like medium speed
skana is a short range sword that's fast
opaque wyvern
personally i go with regular swords like skana and nikanas because of the iron phoenix stance
you can get it super early and it makes melee a lot more bearable
blazing mist
thx
any tip for gaining access to venus
the game stopped holding hands a bit too harsh
proud wren
do the missions leading to venus junction
do the challenges that the junction asks and you will be able to challenge the junction and gain access to venus
blazing mist
do the missions leading to venus junction
i do NOT like searching quests, a whole lot
proud wren
what's the quest specifically?
blazing mist
what's the quest specifically?
1st one, straight out of the gate
blazing mist
i really do struggle
mostly due to a lack of navigation
proud wren
in the top right of the star chart navigation there's an icon that looks like a X with details on it
if you go on that, it will list all the quest missions and if you click on them then it will direct you to the mission
blazing mist
ok
proud wren
dread incarnon isn't super interesting
but the hate incarnon definitely is
it gives you an all around speed buff, and your attacks shoot out these projectiles that explode
opaque wyvern
nataruk 2?
crimson meadow
ok
Your top right thingy says what you need to do to advance quest if you have one active, aside from that clear your star chart
And check junctions if you can open them
Aside from that do whatever you want
proud wren
zoo wee mama
opaque wyvern
getting super lucky with prim blight recently
3 already
best part is i could have 10% toxin weighting on my torid and still be able to max primary blight in seconds
opaque wyvern
i stg im getting the worst circuit groups known to man
why cant i get a harrow and torid for once
is the extra primary blight really worth it
everyone is quitting at stage 1 and im getting horrible loadouts one after another
atomic spear
Stop trying to get carried and do the carrying
opaque wyvern
i have nothing that is steel path worthy
Im playing circuit so i can do that
found a team that doesnt leave after the first round
chat is this real
fringe trout
the Stingray in bl:tps is always so underwhelming
smaller vehicle with a worse boost because it's meant for going up except it doesn't actually go up if you have the slightest bit of speed going
opaque wyvern
actually cooking with this squad
my nataruk is doing big damage
i contributed a whopping 4% of the damage
also as it turns out the extra reward arcanes are not in order
ill get another and if it isnt primary blight ill give up
alpine sparrow
hey what starter melee do you recommend hunting for
Glaive prime 
lime current
good thing i know how to wavedash
wait you can move quick enough with a wavedash to enter the door before it closes?
didnt know that lol
atomic spear
hey what starter melee do you recommend hunting for
Pick a duviri weapon
atomic spear
my nataruk is doing big damage
Remember radiation doesn't work on corrupted now
Bro i can't wait until those new incarnons
Be DE
Make buggy game for 11 years
Competition keeps shooting themselves
What businesses strategy is this?
tidal raven
D2 and Warframe fans playing Borderlands 2 for the first time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Ysa3A2WMU
crimson meadow
What businesses strategy is this?
They embraced valve method
blazing mist
They embraced valve method
valve isnt that horrendous
crimson meadow
valve isnt that horrendous
Wdym?
blazing mist
they really arent
aside from the sheer ignorance
their games certainly dont have that much bug to begin with, altho their new ip my be breaking that tradition
crimson meadow
their games certainly dont have that much bug to begin with, altho their new ip ...
No, I meant to the fact that they do nothing and win
blazing mist
No, I meant to the fact that they do nothing and win
i mean putting biannual case drops is pretty much for a nothing if you ask me
atomic spear
Deep rock stay winning
blazing mist
Deep rock stay winning
i wont buy deep rock just because i have no friendos
tidal raven
Glorified bots isnt very fun imo
I lost all the friends who played deep rock and it got sigificantly more unenjoyable
crimson meadow
Randos are good
atomic spear
It's the same game
atomic spear
People let streamers decide how fun deep rock is for them
blazing mist
They rock and stone with you
surely tbey wont be as toxic as mvm players right?
fuck, mobile moment
crimson meadow
That's the neat part, there is only and itsy bitsy part of toxicity
tidal raven
They arent toxic
Just dont interact much
crimson meadow
How do you avoid toxics? Look out for these "150+ dwarves only, no rpm mining" Lobby names
crimson meadow
They arent toxic
Just dont interact much
Don't put toxic people and quiet people in the same line you dumbo
atomic spear
Any lobby that says ignore gold is perfect
hollow mirage
I prob gotta download mods to add OEM stuff to the game at some point.
MXBikes is a neat game 
crimson meadow
Any lobby that says ignore gold is perfect
no i meant no ping compressed gold
bitter ridge
WE’RE RICH
drifting kernel
crimson meadow
# WE’RE RICH
MUSHROOM
fringe trout
got a shotgun that talks now in tps, gun loadout is really coming together
i just wish i could get the 4th gun slot unlocked earlier
crimson meadow
i just wish i could get the 4th gun slot unlocked earlier
What are we talking about again?
fringe trout
borderlands pre sequel
it's feeling like i got the 3rd and 4th slots opened quicker in 2 than in tps
proud wren
i sold my kuva chakkhurr riven finally and i instantly got the plat i need to buy soma prime
bitter ridge
sus link
bitter ridge
loud saffron
me when i am not the reincarnation of dracula
balmy mason
im so good at nature's aura
bitter ridge
druid spotted
fringe trout
alright
bitter ridge
kaboooom
neat sleet
# **MUSHROOM**
Found a Boolo Cap!
tidal raven
I cant tell if pinging the gold is funnier than taking the gold piece insantly and hearing my friend freak out as I move to the molly
"No dont do it"
[Looks at him, looks back, looks at him]
[Puts it in]
"NOO-" [Mic cut]
bitter ridge
that's jsut evil
opaque wyvern
wait you can move quick enough with a wavedash to enter the door before it close...
yep, its super popular speedrun tech
took me a few tries to pull off though
modern schooner
I cant tell if pinging the gold is funnier than taking the gold piece insantly a...
That sounds very funny
opaque wyvern
took me a few tries to pull off though
now i dont have to collect every single A-side and B-side heart
Currently the strongest torid build ive found so far
it blows every other build ive seen out of the water
crisp hound
Do blast +corrosive instead of blast tox
crisp hound
Its mid 😔
opaque wyvern
do you not know how primary blight works
3.6% and 1.8% crit damage and multishot respectively
stacks up to 40x
unless i calculated wrong thats around 144%
nevermind im stupid
anyway merciless and deadhead suck and other arcanes need a buff
i hate how they are infinitely stronger than every other primary arcane
opaque wyvern
primary blight bonuses are applied after mods yes
that would give me 16.2 crit damage from 11.3 and and 6.88 multishot from 4.0
crisp hound
I don't think it is
hollow mirage
im amazed the wiki doesnt go into detail how it affects your weapon
hollow mirage
I dont believe theres anything in the game thats put on weapons that applies after all your mods, thats other outside source stuff like warframe abilities
except faction stuff.
but faction mods are stupid
opaque wyvern
surely DE doesnt just make everything outside of deadhead and merciless entirely useless
hollow mirage
youd be surprised.
bitter ridge
opaque wyvern
im using overframe to make the builds and primary blight makes crit damage go from 6.8 to 11.3
i thought it didnt even factor arcanes
im really disappointed in DE for making primary merciless/deadhead the objective best arcanes for primaries
fringe trout
are the 40 Moonstone chests ever worth opening in bl:tps?
so far i've been ignoring them all because my weapons are always good enough
just ran into another one after defeating Felicity, it was way easier to nail the turrets this time with showdown
fringe trout
ghostbuster reference finished, got a cool laser gun i will not be using
bitter ridge
Smh
fringe trout
got a sniper with more than twice the damage of my accident moonstone sniper, it also doesn't have a scope
honest belfry
Anyone here have extensive knowledge of brawl stars?
Because I had something that was straight bs
opaque wyvern
am i cooking
honest belfry
Yeah kinda although I perfer deadhead or the one that applies random status
Secondary encumber? I think
opaque wyvern
i chose secondary shiver for the 45% per cold status
hollow mirage
Encumber goes hard
opaque wyvern
i could replace it with something else idk how to build toxocyst yet
secondary encumber is easy to farm so i guess ill use that
hollow mirage
Why seeker?
opaque wyvern
punch through is good on toxo
tidal raven
Who would win:
The human psyche
Or
Contacting EA support for 1 spore CD key so I can log into the sporepedia
opaque wyvern
from what ive heard atleast
hollow mirage
opaque wyvern
if you hit a second enemy then it also creates a ricochet
hollow mirage
Nice
opaque wyvern
what status should i put in a final slot
tidal raven
I wanna save my freaks of nature on a cloud 
still flicker
That looks like a friend
opaque wyvern
toxin, cold, heat or electric?
hollow mirage
well if you did any, you’d lose your cold damage
opaque wyvern
yeah i switched for encumber
tidal raven
That looks like a friend
Fren :)
opaque wyvern
since theres already an evo that gives you bonus damage per status
hollow mirage
I’d do viral or corrosive.
opaque wyvern
What would i take out?
someone bought my glaxion augment
very nice and easy 48 plat
if the guy actually joins my dojo
hollow mirage
I dunno if you really need 2 crit chance mods but that’s just because I never do
opaque wyvern
nice
hollow mirage
wonderful
opaque wyvern
I dunno if you *really* need 2 crit chance mods but that’s just because I never ...
more crit chance is always nice
hollow mirage
not always
a weapon that’s all crit but no status likely does worse than a weapon that’s both crit and status
opaque wyvern
good thing that its crit and status
hollow mirage
yea but what status are you applying?
opaque wyvern
heat
hollow mirage
Does the incarnon have maybe a base toxin damage or somethin?
For a weapon called the Toxocyst, I’d expect toxin damage
opaque wyvern
weirdly neither the weapon or incarnon have toxin
hollow mirage
wack
opaque wyvern
im going to go max my torid and fully evolve it rn, then i can start building
hollow mirage
I gotta do another run on Duviri to make Ceramic Dagger incarnon but I really don’t wanna