ror2-game-questions

[frozen forum]

So having 13 psg should always save you right?

[marble osprey]

Yeah, although you'll be very low health afterwards, so i don't think it'd work for host skips unless you have a way to regen all that health back in time

[potent fractal]

i know that in multiplayer, the eclipse difficulty is the lowest among the survivors in the lobby. i can't find concrete info about progress though, if both players are on E2 characters will they both unlock E3?

[hoary sedge]

iirc they will

basically if the run is on the highest eclipse level you have on that character you unlock the next one, if it's lower then you don't

[marble osprey]

Yes, so if you want both to progress it's best to both use survivors at the same eclipse level
Also should mention that with the drop in mod, you can join an eclipse level higher than the one you're on, which I believe unlocks that level immediately, skipping stages if necessary

[rich bobcat]

they are so bad on e8 when lunar chimera are tanky to the point they can handle a US airstrike

genuinely tankier than mithrix

[frosty reef]

https://streamable.com/bx1zmq
https://streamable.com/0ycr2m

[lavish jacinth]

they aren't any tankier than normal

eclipse doesn't affect enemy health or scaling

[marble osprey]

Huh interesting
Yeah you're definitely right, with some testing I got up to 16x my max health via fall damage, not sure why I thought it worked another way then

[frosty reef]

yeah i never bothered to look at the code and understand the numbers behind it but i just knew 13 psgs didn't save you

[marble osprey]

Ok just got 18x, i don't think it's capped at all tbh

Now i kinda wanna see if i can get myself killed with transcendence via fall damage

Also i need to fix the wiki page since it says transcendence reduces fall damage to 1 point which isn't true

[marble osprey]

damn headset has a max fall speed, there goes that plan

[lavish jacinth]

using stompers to kill yourself with fall damage may not have been the best plan to begin with

[marble osprey]

Well i can say that hitting the ground at 500 m/s seems to deal 10x your health (20x on eclipse 3/artifact of frailty) at least

[marble osprey]

I was removing them last second lol

I do keep seeing people saying transcendence reduces fall damage to 1 though, does anyone know if that's how it used to work and it got changed in one of the physics updates? I know they made some changes to fall damage during those

[lavish jacinth]

I wouldn't be surprised if people just assumed it was capped to 1 simply because nobody ever bothered to test it

[marble osprey]

Me too but I'm curious so I'm doing another round of testing with kcc

Ok yeah same results

[livid wedge]

It's not always 3 whites or something

Someone in general got 3 red command essences

[frosty reef]

rex boop upwards spam is probably the way to go for that test

[frosty reef]

yeah good luck with that
https://streamable.com/2wyi2h

[frosty reef]

yeah only instance you run into taking more than 1 damage is kinda just getting spiked by an enemy while using a movement skill like rex's upwards. like a wisp spike railgunner special upwards kind of situation

[marble osprey]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/17134166502749761727/27ED273E232CE6C8E1B52E7EFC0F52CB8EE9158D/

[frosty reef]

lol

-91 is so funny after all that

[marble osprey]

yeah hit speeds of 10,000 m/s there lmao

fwbfwbfwbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbbffcrunch

good science :)

[dapper skiff]

so my friend and i were in a run, where for some random reason whenever i would pick up an item, it would add it to my items, but not actually pick it up, allowing me to pick it up presumably as many times as i want, any idea what it happened?

it started doing it when we went into the first bazaar

completely unmodded steam version

[marble osprey]

That was a known bug from the sots patch i think, but as far as i was aware it had been fixed
Someone else might know more, but just to check, were both you and your friend playing unmodded, or just you? Sometimes mods that are supposed to be just client side or server side can have unintended effects

[dapper skiff]

both unmodded

[marble osprey]

Ok found an old bug report thread, seems like it's caused by getting desynced from the host, so probably something weird happened to cause that
The example they gave was printing an item on the same frame as their items got disabled by a solus invalidator

[steel lance]

i like your 13611% crit chance

[dapper skiff]

yeah it got to the point where it said i was dealing 1 damage, meanwhile 1-shotting every enemy

[wild kestrel]

so what does the ForbiddenAsBoss tag actually do?

[steel lance]

i would assume it marks the entity as unable to be selected as a teleporter boss, but i have no idea if that's what it actually does

[wild kestrel]

not that cuz ive had gup and scavvy tele bosses and those have the tag

[steel lance]

hm

lemme have a look into it rq

[wild kestrel]

yeah but scavvy becomes an incredibly common tele boss after a few loops

[steel lance]

yea that's because the director starts getting too many credits and doesn't know how to do anything with them except spawn scavs

so it doesn't even look at other enemy options

i've definitely had gup and stone golem hordes of many before tho so i'm assuming there's some more nuance to it than that

[wild kestrel]

oh lord scavvy is worth 2k credits

[steel lance]

yea...

which makes sense, considering if they high-roll items they can become effectively immortal without post-loop levels of dps

the only stage they're even considered for before looping is sundered grove

[sleek forum]

I'm not sure where to ask this so I'm gonna ask here ?
me and my brother are playing together on the same network

the host has the game run smoothly while the guest faces unbearable lags sometimes leading to disconnections before the game starts

when we switch roles now the guest (host previously) gets the lags.

we tried matching the graphic settings connecting to different networks and stopping vsync but nothing resolves the issue

sometimes it works okay but it has become so rare at this moment

are there any solutions i can try?

[peak holly]

What platform

[sleek forum]

PC on steam no mods or anything

I'm not sure if it's relevant but each of us a different DLC i have Sotv and he has Sots

[wanton hamlet]

dont even know if this matters but did yall both have crossplay enabled?

[sleek forum]

we tried enabling and disabling it but both had the lag

[tribal belfry]

how many loops should I go through before attempting the void fields? I'm trying to unlock Mul-T's last ability but I keep eating shit

[wanton hamlet]

One if you are lucky enough

There is always a point in the run where you are basically invincible anyways but sometimes you get obliterated randomly

[tribal belfry]

seems more like all the time I get obliterated randomly

I had 2x the item that makes enemies drop a healing flower on death, and the aegis that lets me overheal

but obviously I cant use either of those if I just get shot from a distance

[wanton hamlet]

And it all really depends if you get unlucky with enemies and their items, one time can be brass contraptions 5x syringes and others it can be child with medkit

[tribal belfry]

ugh guess I'd better keep rolling

I only have enough energy for 1-2 runs after work each day so I wonder how long this will take me

[vast sandal]

I'm currently in the bulwark for artifact of kin and the monster is Scavenger. I've been here for like 15 minutes, does it just take awhile or is it a bug?

[lament veldt]

?

[lament veldt]

Kill it

[vast sandal]

None are spawning

[lavish jacinth]

unfortunate
it should (probably) spawn eventually but the kin trial is notorious for that sort of thing, especially on later stages when it's more common to get expensive bosses as a monster

[vast sandal]

Ahh I see

[lament veldt]

Oh

[lavish jacinth]

I think what happens is that it selects a monster that the spawn director can only barely afford, so it takes ages to save up in order to spawn one

15 minutes does sound like a really long time though, I don't think it's normally THAT bad

[lament veldt]

Ive been stuck in bulwark for 40 minutes before

[dense thistle]

Guys how does cleansing pool show up on the scanner? Is it a question mark? Im in a funny situation: i have 78 egocentrisms and ive been trying to get rid of them for an hour before they get rid of me

[lament veldt]

Its a ?

[dense thistle]

Ok nvm my build is cooked corrupted clover duped itself and converted fkn everything to legendaries

[lavish jacinth]

if you're worried about mithrix having them, iirc you can just stand on the ramps during phase 4 and poke him to death. Ego has really wide horizontal range but not very much vertical

or just obliterate, or fight another boss if you have dlcs

[grizzled drum]

Who is the best character to use when trying to unlock rex?

[elfin sierra]

Probably the character ur best at

[grizzled drum]

Ok thanks

[jaunty furnace]

someone whod help you not fall under 50% hp

perhaps a mobile character like loader

[grizzled drum]

Or mult I guess cause he has 2 equipment slots

[lavish jacinth]

mult doesn't spawn with a pod

unless you're in multiplayer and can take it from someone else's

but if you have AC and command, you can go for a functional coupler on stage 1 and cheese it that way with almost any survivor

[grizzled drum]

Cool thanks

[steel lance]

i think it's a shrine icon

[elder pulsar]

can i transfer progression or dlc's to other platforms for exmple steam ---> ps5??

[lavish jacinth]

no

[elder pulsar]

ok

[lament veldt]

God I wish you could...

Not even just for ror2. For alot of games

[livid wedge]

It's a shrine icon

And counts as a shrine for defiant gouge

[heavy gorge]

I love how the shrine of rebirth also counts for

Imagine dying from that

[pastel epoch]

so is the prime meridian always an option in the lunar bazaar if you're going there between Stage 3 and 4?

(breaking the geodes of course)

[marble osprey]

Yeah, unless you've already been there that run since you can't go twice

[viral sorrel]

what logbook is the missing one ?

[cunning gorge]

Disturbed Impact iirc

[viral sorrel]

kaykay thanks

[cunning gorge]

It's the loop-variant of shattered abodes

[viral sorrel]

yesyes thank you

[cunning gorge]

Np

[candid birch]

First time playing as an operator, what else can I get?

[marble osprey]

Assuming you're playing command? For whites, I'd recommend an opal/warped echo or two for a bit more defense; delicate watches, sticky bombs, and hiker's boots for damage; and bolstering lantern is good for attack speed since you should have a bunch of allies around you; a rusted key every stage for more green/red items; and maybe some tri-tip daggers for bleed
For greens, harvester's scythe and predatory instincts for crit synergy with the hiker's boots; rose buckler/kinetic dampener for defense; death mark and chronobauble to enable it; bands are always good damage; ignition tank for your gasoline; noxious thorn for your debuffs to spread; regenerating scrap for free reds in the bazaar; an unstable transmitter to protect watches; and sale star + chance doll for better/more items, unless you're playing sacrifice; and shipping request form for free items
There are tons of good reds, best for operator specifically is spare drone parts
Similarly, there are a decent amount of good yellows, but empathy cores and faulty conductor are especially good for operator
If you wanna get extremely broken, you can get the equipment deus ex machina and the void item lost seers lenses, using the equipment to parry makes the lost seers guaranteed to instakill on your next shot, and simce your primary bounces when it kills, you can have it bounce around one-shotting everything that's not a boss. You can also get 26 gestures of the drowned/fuel cells to have the parry permanently up for near-invincibility

[candid birch]

really? ts good for operator?

[marble osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8E-I8JgsFts

Short clip with the interaction im talking about

[candid birch]

OK

[sleek forum]

is there still no resolution to this ?

just to continue the latest responses from last time
-this is pc
-cross play on and off doesn't resolve
-different networks doesn't resolve as well

and to add i have SotV and AC and he has SotS and AC dlcs

[marble osprey]

I mean there's not much for us to go off of here, it could just be an issue with your connection or something
There's no known issue with the game that could be fixed for that that I'm aware of

[sleek forum]

alright i just thought to ask i someone did face a similar issue before.

it is quite unstable when it happens but we'll try again from our end.

thank you all

[lavish jacinth]

unfortunately, ror2's netcode is utter garbage and just refuses to work for some people

Sometimes you could play with someone on another continent and it'll be perfectly playable, sometimes you could be sitting in the same room as someone and have more lag than the fucking mars rover

[compact condor]

can anybody confirm that disturbed impact isn't bugged anymore and the log entry is possible to get

[cunning gorge]

Yes I got it recently as my second to last log

[compact condor]

Thank you, and same! Just disturbed and iron auroras left for me

[dense thistle]

Genuine question: do these devs even like their players?

I can't imagine any other reason putting pot rolling in the game but being pure evil

[lavish jacinth]

I mean... it's not exactly an intended feature

it's just a thing you can do because the physics (kinda) allow it

[dense thistle]

Its a fuck you get friends or play drifter/engineer

[high forum]

i mean, yeah

[lavish jacinth]

or captain, or loader, or have

[high forum]

lol

[dense thistle]

With captain you can call down ur thingy on it?

[lavish jacinth]

beacons can hold buttons down

so can loader's pylon but it's kinda awkward to get it in the right spot

[dense thistle]

I mean i would do that any day over trying to roll a pot uphill with false son

I just had a super good start, wasted 10m on this potrolling shit and gave up :(

Pot roll more like pot troll

[lavish jacinth]

I never bother with it unless the pots are already in an easy spot

[high forum]

yeah it's not supposed to be something you're guaranteed every run

it's just a bonus

[dense thistle]

Thing is pot was right next to it but the fucking button is at an angle so the pot kept rolling off of it

Yeah I know I'm just venting

Could have been god run I had 10 of those close range gems on stage 2

And 2 blood thingies for hp

[lavish jacinth]

It'd still be salvageable tbh

10 minutes isn't an unrecoverable loss, especially on a strong character like FS

[dense thistle]

Oh on a side note i just got all dlcs trying all the new chars out

On false son does that double ur hp half ms lunar item work with his passive?

And if yes is it worth considering?

Also I assume that your dream build is getting a bunch of blues and then scrapping them at cleansing pool?

[lavish jacinth]

he's one of the only characters where it's viable, although you have to constantly juggle lunar spikes to keep the movement speed bonus

and yeah, pearls are pretty nice to get on him, not gonna win a run single-handedly though

[dense thistle]

I had a run yesterday where I picked up egocentrism by accident

(it was the first time i picked it up wanted to read what it does)

And then spent an hour looking for cleansing pool with 70 of them in my inventory

Didnt find 1

Today I had 3 cleansing pools on stage 2

[lavish jacinth]

(70 egos probably would've carried harder than 70 pearls ngl, even with some irradiants in there)

[dense thistle]

I mean I just wanted to do it

Never had the cool orb in my hands

[lavish jacinth]

fair enough

[dense thistle]

I ended up getting corrupted clover at some point in my run

And then it duped itself and i ended up with a full inventory of legendaries

[lavish jacinth]

yeah it likes to do that

[dense thistle]

My character got slow as hell and I gave up xd

[lavish jacinth]

could be worse, at least we have A movement speed red in the game now

[dense thistle]

Which one?

[lavish jacinth]

growth nectar

[dense thistle]

Oh thats it?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[dense thistle]

Hopefully next update

Yeah its kinda crazy that in a game where ms is king there is not a single move speed legendary

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, that's why we have multiple white and green speed items

[dense thistle]

Yeah but the legendary one could do something funny

[lavish jacinth]

I guess afterburner is kind of a speed red depending on your utility

[dense thistle]

True

Alr thx for help ima try another false son run and i wont get baited by pots again (probably)

[marble osprey]

my goat is sometimes a speed item when it turns you into an egg

(or hits gorags opus or something but thats not as funny)

[bitter steeple]

Is Diablo Strike the better utility

[dense thistle]

Lol I just dropped aspect of earth from first elite

[lavish jacinth]

default is way easier to use consistently

diablo is kind of gimmicky and takes practice to use well, but 40,000% damage speaks for itself

[dense thistle]

Let me guess: its useless?

[lavish jacinth]

mending? yeah kinda

[dense thistle]

Its the healing one

[lavish jacinth]

it can heal allies, that's about it

[dense thistle]

Yeah im not picking up stinky drones as fals son

Im a lone wolf im him

[lavish jacinth]

blazing, overloading, perfected, collective and twisted are the only aspects really worth picking up, very loosely in that order (although twisted gets way better if you put it on an equipment drone)

[wanton hamlet]

i like to pair it with effigy if i can find one

[peak holly]

Growth nectar*

[glacial stratus]

Can't (playstation. switch. Xbox. PC/laptop) crossplay?

[peak holly]

Oops someone else mentioned it

[peak holly]

Nope

[glacial stratus]

So like are they not planning to add any crossplay because of an incident that happens a year or 2 years ago?

[peak holly]

Well steam and epic can crossplay

[high forum]

crossplay was never promised/planned

[peak holly]

I would assume they aren’t adding it due to the fact that even today they haven’t been able to achieve parity

And I dont think they ever will achieve parity

[keen wedge]

Does anyone ever actually pot roll for the bands

[peak holly]

I personally don’t cause it’s BORING but some people do, it’s entirely up to the player

[glacial stratus]

Ohhhhhhh okay gtk

Thx for telling me

[young bane]

can you put mithrix in your bag for a short time as drifter?

[dense thistle]

If its in a good spot

I usually check where plates spawned while looting and if it's in a flat area with a pot nearby I'll do it, especially if my char could use a band

[peak holly]

No, you can’t put boss enemies in your bag

[ocean monolith]

If only SotS physics were reverted....

[ocean monolith]

I do when I have a good spot of I'm able to use something else to push the button down

[flat adder]

3 things
I've started eclipse and all four starting stages had 3 bosses, is that normal?
I've noticed that some attacks that are "burst like" either all crit or none crit like huntress 2nd m1 and captains m1, does that effect stuff like bleed at all?
I've got 3 rounds of dune tea pot bosses and they are awful, are they awful of is there something I'm missing? They heal so much HP and it's hard to stop, leads to them taking forever to kill

[flat adder]

Also does all projectiles of a burst attack all count as one for bands?

[marble osprey]

no

[ocean monolith]

1, Did you hit any Mountain Shrines? If not, how long were you taking to make that many bosses spawn on Stage 1?
2, I don't remember if crit and procs works the same for burst attacks, but I'm pretty sure procs roll on every individual hit, unlike crit's per attack roll
3, Proper strafing/kiting as well as focusing on one at a time will help, otherwise try to use any on-kill effects you have to kill the adds so they'll not only heal for less but things like Gas and Caggers will help whittle them down

[flat adder]

I don't think I took too long, like 12 min, 15 max

On stage one

It's constantly exactly 3 though which is weird

[marble osprey]

for 2, no, crit is just funky, it's rolled when the thing is fired, rather than per projectile. bleed or atgs or anything else really rolls independently per projectile
for 3, if you're having difficulties, just ignore them and charge the teleporter. once it's done charging, new enemies wont spawn, so they wont have anything to heal off of

[flat adder]

I'm at a little less than 1 hr on stage 5

[marble osprey]

also if you're out of line out sight when they start their suck attack, it won't latch onto you, and once it's started you can get closer and it won't latch on either

[crisp junco]

if the dunestriders latch onto you and you get out of the suck radius, it won't be able to suck on you even when you get back into the radius

and imho the projectiles they shoot are much more annoying to deal with tbh

but as for any boss you shouldn't want to stand still at all. make sure you're always running around

[flat adder]

I was able to take them down but it took a long time, on stage 4 finally a different boss spawned and it was soooo much faster, is there a reason there were always 3?

I think I did use a mountain shrine on stage one actually but only one and I've never seen them spawn 3 from that before and all the other stages had more without any shrine at all

[crisp junco]

probably because of credits or difficulty if i were to guess

but usually more bosses spawn based on time scaling regardless

i think i've rolled 3 bosses from stage 1's tp but i don't really pay attention

[visual beacon]

I'm running False Son runs for skins and I'm wondering is my only chance of survival, movement items (Monsoon btw)? I can get by avoiding the laser now, but I'm starting to realize that without any mobility the run is just a waste of my time. Any advice on how to avoid his dumb pounce smack attack? Am I supposed to close the distance to prevent him from doing that? Cause that's like all he does lol. Throws rocks, pounce smack and maybe something else. I deal damage on most runs but all it takes is 1 hit and I'm pretty much dead.

I will admit having drones helps but without them I can't shake the guy unless I circle the pillars which is kind of boring.

[short bolt]

Last 3 anyone know what they are?

[cunning gorge]

Alloy Worship Unit, some Alloyed Collective enemy (i dont have AC) and Solus Probe

[cunning gorge]

if you are open to cheesing him you can effectively cheese the first two phases (can't remember if theres a phase 3 cheese) but if not cheesing then yes, movement items are really good during FS fights. He does suck to fight tho

[visual beacon]

Does it inolves the pillar, cause I feel like it does. The guy's rather stupid when it comes to them lol. Might be cause of his size. If I can't do it solo, I'll prob do it online.

It's wild cause I've been solo'ing solus heart with ease, but can't seem to have good track record with FS. :/ I thought the man got some changes

[cunning gorge]

no the cheese is just hiding behind some sort of wall on the outskirt of the map (phase one it is the tiny rim on the very edge of the map and phase 2 its behind a rock on the right side) where FS cant really attack you so you just shoot him until its over

i can find a video guide if you want

[short bolt]

Thanks

[bitter steeple]

What’s the best loadout for operator?

[dense thistle]

Guys do mods work in multiplayer? Like that uber mythrix or stage recap?

[peak holly]

Client side mods like ui mods will work

But server side (even though it’s not a server) will not, like umbral mithrix

[jaunty furnace]

content mods require everyone to have them

you can copy all of your mods and configs for your friends via a simple code

in the bottom left of r2modman after selecting a profile

[steel lance]

operator doesn't really have a best loadout imo, just experiment and find a combo you enjoy

[tawdry loom]

don't use firewall though

[primal vector]

Firewall is cool

[steel lance]

i find it boring but it's not inherently worse than ascent protocol, both have ups and downs

[pastel epoch]

Iirc on Scorched Acres, the Newt Shrine will sometimes only spawn up on top of that mountain. I already know Engineer will be unable to get up there without items, but can triple blink Huntress and Bandit get up there without specific items?

Pretty much what I want to do is always go to the bazaar after stage 3 and go to False Son. I just want to change things up from the Path of the Colossus stages and just let the game take me to random Stage 2 and 3s.

[steel lance]

technically lights out bandit can get infinite height by repeatedly resetting his utility's cooldown but other than that i'm not sure

[lavish jacinth]

huntress might be able to do it using her special to get extra height, idk if it would be enough though

[pastel epoch]

I now realize what I ask is a niche question, so unless there’s some cool tech that I don’t know about, I wouldn’t mind just “maybe” as an answer

How about here on Rallypoint? Can this one just be walked up to as any character by just running on the mountain slopes like a goat?

Rarely have I ever gone for this one

[lavish jacinth]

nah, you definitely need good vertical movement for that one

[steel lance]

yea that one isn't possible

similarly to the one near the skybox on aphelian, tho i imagine the rpd one is a little more accessible because some of that terrain looks as though it could be stood on

[ocean monolith]

You also have literally 0 reason to go for that one cause one of the other 2 will ALWAYS spawn

If you want to go to a good Stage 3 but really need to hit Newt, it might be worth your time to go to RPD instead of Acres

[steel lance]

they were saying they wanted to get random stages for 2 and 3 for more variance, hence why they're not just going path of the colossus from stage 1

[ocean monolith]

Eh fair

[pastel epoch]

My plan will probably be to just go path of colossus if it’s someone like Engi who won’t always be able to get to a stage 3 newt altar, otherwise I will mix things up and go with the normal stages

[heavy gorge]

It was my understanding that there were only two spawns

[marble osprey]

There's two normal ones, one of which will always spawn, and a secret third one that always spawns that's just absurdly high up

[pastel epoch]

Does it work the same way on Scorched Acres?

[marble osprey]

No, on that one the secret third one can be the only one to spawn. Similarly, the one in the cave on abyssal depths can be the only one to spawn when the cave is closed

[pastel epoch]

How do you get in there when cave is closed?

[brazen briar]

For the rally point delta chest challenge do I just hafta keep speedrunning to stage 3 and resetting till it’s that map cuz damn

I must be unlucky or smth I haven’t gotten it for like 5 runs now

[lavish jacinth]

you can go to the bazaar from stage 2 and try to get rallypoint in a lunar seer, it also helps to turn off SotV and AC so you don't get their stage 3 maps

[heavy gorge]

Sorta like how scorched acres always has one on that distant hill you need mobility stuff to access

This is good info

✍️

[marble osprey]

Kinda but on scorched acres, that can be the only newt spawn, but on rpd, it can't, so it's not really ever useful since there will always be a more accessible one

[heavy gorge]

True…

I keep thinking you’re talking about resident evil when you say RPD

[ocean monolith]

With enough speed you can clip in through a tiny crack at one of the entrances

[dense thistle]

guys my friend cant unlock artificier it just doesnt light it up

he has enough coins

hes been trying to do it over 20 times already

[buoyant basin]

stingy ass lizard

[ocean monolith]

Known bug

If he’s on PC, have him go on Thunderstore and download the RealerCheatUnlocks mod to unlock Arti

[zealous willow]

I have been playing ror2 for a bit now and I have been having alot of fun playing it but i have been trying to figure out smth. I'm really js wondering if we are ever gonna see the wreckage of the ship contact light. Like on a map or smth. Idk if there is already a map that has the wreckage but I js have been wanting to ask and see if we are ever gonna see the wreckage or not.

[ocean monolith]

We saw it in RoR/RoRR

[zealous willow]

Ohhhh

[grave garnet]

Are all of the crashed rescue ships from the contact light? And how did they get scattered across the map?

[marble osprey]

I mean all the chests are also from the contact light, shit kinda got sent everywhere when the contact light got attacked

[gilded fog]

Critique my clip and……… tell me what I did wrong and how to improve
I don’t usually play Merc I’m only doing this for the skin

[lavish jacinth]

I'd say the big misplay there was not backing off once you were out of dashes. you'd wanna aim the last dash so that it gives you some distance from the boss and ideally puts you behind cover

You really don't ever wanna be near false son unless you have iframes or a ton of speed, or you know for certain that his spike shotgun is on cooldown

the spikes have almost no telegraph and will delete you instantly at close range

[gilded fog]

Thx!!
I barely ever play merc, he’s just not my usual playstyle, but I want all of the SOTS skins, so I’m powering through, thanks for the advice

[golden frost]

is it just me or am i always getting damage overtime in 1st loop?
i got like a skin with custom voice. it keeps making hurt sound. i thought maybe i got like debuff or something, but it doesnt show any kind of debuff and my health keep depleting like every 4 second ish

the build that im using just in case

[marble osprey]

You'd probably be better off asking in #ror2-modding , I don't think there's a base-game explanation for that so it's probably caused by one of the mods you're using

[golden frost]

im using like no game changing mod except rocket character mod. there is no like new enemies, new item, etc. even then when i use vanilla characters sometimes it did that.

[marble osprey]

Ok, if you play without any mods enabled at all, does it still do that? Not just playing vanilla characters, entirely vanilla

Mods can often cause something unintentional to happen, just because you don't have a mod that says it would do that, doesn't mean a mod isn't causing it

[golden frost]

I think it does to, but might give it a try just to make sure

[burnt ocean]

if you choose eclipse on coop does it match you or is it just join based

[bitter steeple]

Is it worth unlocking any of loaders alternates aside from just to have the achievement?

[candid heart]

is it mandatory to have a halcyon seed when beating false son?

[bitter steeple]

Only mandatory to do the unlock

[candid heart]

Why would I fight god itself just to get nothing
So if I want him I need the seed
Thx

[bitter steeple]

FS is honestly the easiest of the final bosses

[mellow crystal]

Mithrix gaming

[jaunty furnace]

its very much a thing in ror1/rorr but theres bits of it in sirens call

and maybe some other stages too idk

rallypoint delta perchance

[zealous willow]

O

I'll make sure to go check it out. Tbh call me out on this but i never actually got to play ror or rorr

[zealous willow]

Tbh real

[lavish jacinth]

Have y'all just never fought Mithrix, or...

[zealous willow]

I have

He's fun to fight, normally cuz I have alot of stuff during him

[candid heart]

I beat mithrrix after a week

Ive been throwing hands at this guy for a month

[zealous willow]

Tbh to make mithrix easy, js loop atleast once

His final phase isn't really. Probably if you either have drones or js constantly fire

[lavish jacinth]

Mithrix is always pretty easy if you know what you're doing, and he's definitely easier than false son lol

or any other final boss

[trim lynx]

id say harder than heart

[jaunty furnace]

99% of players play ror2 first

[lavish jacinth]

fair, they're both pretty easy tho

[zealous willow]

O

[jaunty furnace]

and probably like 15-30% of that end up trying one of the other games

[ocean monolith]

That’s just wrong

[ocean monolith]

He’s the easiest boss in the game, that or Solus Wing

[young bane]

im coming back to ror2 after a while, i was a seeker/drifter main, and im kinda struggling with drifter. i KNOW how good the tinker ability can be on drifter but i struggle hard to not die early in monsoon cause of lack of items

[bitter steeple]

I’ve had way more trouble with Mithrix than False Son

[steel lance]

wdym by lack of items? are you struggling to fully loot?

[young bane]

i usually die on monsoon to the annoying ammount of flying enemies that are a pain to deal with whilst using drifter before i can get more than like 3

[steel lance]

hm ok

[young bane]

and the stupid child that does an annoying ammount of damage and runs from me

[steel lance]

my advice would be either to use repossess to bag one and slam it on others if you can, or to get more consistent with aiming your secondary of choice (junk cube is easy, you just put your crosshair on the thing you want to hit, cleanup takes a little more practice)

[steel lance]

children are annoying but their projectile moves and turns fairly slowly so you can outrun or avoid it pretty easily

if your issue is with avoiding things then don't forget that each white scrap is half a goat hoof so you get a lot of evasive capabilities just from scrapping unneeded white items

[young bane]

sometimes i forget i can throw junk cube up a fair bit

[steel lance]

junk cube has autoaim if you just put your crosshair on the enemy you want to hit

you don't have to account for physics to hit flying enemies, doing so often makes it harder

[young bane]

i havent beaten mythrix with drifter yet, is it practical to just make a huge item stack, go up and kill him pretty quick?

and does mythrix take my scrap

[steel lance]

i don't remember if mithrix takes scrap or not — would assume he does but if so he won't gain your stat buffs from it since he isn't drifter

[steel lance]

not sure on this either, haven't tried i'm afraid

[young bane]

ill check the wiki and make a few searches

if not that would make the fight not too hard actually

[rich bobcat]

wing spread me open first try on monsoon

[lavish jacinth]

Wing or heart? I never found heart to be overly difficult but wing can definitely mess you up until you learn how the fight works

[ocean monolith]

That's baffling considering how horrible False Son is in every single aspect and also how piss easy Mithrix is Post-AC

[rich bobcat]

wing

wing ive fought three times, but my only wins from wing are 4 ppl multiplayer

hes so tanky and fuck the beam move

[rich bobcat]

agreed

false son is worst than voidling in terms of balance lwk

but narrative wise false son is cooler obviously

[zealous willow]

Really? I haven't had a problem with the beam move, you really just need to get behind smth when u hear wing charging it up

[lavish jacinth]

or just ride a conduit

[zealous willow]

True

[pastel epoch]

This just my opinion, but False Son’s backstory is like one of those characters that’s like “my guy is part demon, part angel, part werewolf, part vampire!” Situations

[hoary sedge]

i feel like the backstory would be fine if his fight dialogue wasn't...like that

[heavy gorge]

I bet false son sounds like a teenager with a rough voice filter

[trim lynx]

yeah lol

[pastel epoch]

In the announcement trailer for the dlc he’s voiced, and damn I do like the voice

[heavy gorge]

Interesting

[gilded fog]

What’s the Strat for doing the conduit canyon boss without touching the ground as OP

[livid wedge]

[marble osprey]

He's just trying to live up to Mithrix, king of talking shit
Not that it's working, given Mithrix has exclusive dialogue shit-talking false son when killing him

[gilded fog]

That was what I was thinking, thanks for the confirmation

[trim lynx]

or

[gilded fog]

What if I got the thing that lets me have 2 equipments, get super high up in the sky, then as I’m falling use tricorn and kill the guy before I hit the ground

[mellow crystal]

That works yeah

Do remember you have to be off the ground for as long as both SCU and alloy hunter are alive

[gilded fog]

I was just about to ask that, thanks

[gilded fog]

Dang it, I didn’t even get a single equipment thing until right before the boss, so I had to choose between chrysalis or tricorn, and I chose tricorn…. Incorrect ig

And I couldn’t even get a yellow thing to swap them around like I planned to

[lavish jacinth]

you don't necessarily need chrysalis, you can use ascent protocol and chain jumps between drones to stay airborn

[gilded fog]

Yeah, I should’ve gone for tricorn, but oh well

Plus I didn’t get enough drones to even hop around for long enough

[tired summit]

Does the artifact of swarm help you get more items if u have the artifact of sacrifice on or does it jus give u the same amount if items?

😰

[lavish jacinth]

it does give you more items overall yeah

the drop chance is reduced but not completely halved iirc, and there's always a 5% minimum that doesn't get lowered

[tired summit]

Oh fire tysm😼

[marble osprey]

For more specific stats, it reduces it by up to 5%, with a minimum of 5%. The reduction gets bigger as the chance gets bigger, but even stuff like beetle queen which has a 34.6% chance only goes down by 4.9%, down to 29.7%, while beetles and wisps were already at 5% and don't get decreased at all

[tired summit]

Ohhhh ok

[marble osprey]

So it's very nearly just double items, only slightly less than that
Very good

[dense thistle]

Please end me I clicked the shrine to reroll everything into 1 item, it gave me 90 guitars and 55 H3AD

Stacking H3AD doesnt do shit man

Why did I click it

[lavish jacinth]

you got funny'd by the funny shrine

[heavy gorge]

Such a random and pointless shrine tbh

[marble osprey]

It teaches you not to ever hit a shrine of order, that's a pretty valuable lesson

[heavy gorge]

True…

[grizzled drum]

how does one push a clay dunestrider into a pit as rex?

[mellow crystal]

util

[dense thistle]

Guys now that we have drones expansion do you think there will be a turrets expansion too?

[glacial stratus]

Should I afk for 3 hours on stage 1 before going to stage 8 and obliterated myself on monsoon?

[jaunty furnace]

why

[heavy gorge]

The gunner turrets were also buffed

[lavish jacinth]

why stop at 3

[glacial stratus]

DAYUM!!!

I'm speechless

[heavy gorge]

American Dad intro but Stan sleeps in

[quaint wagon]

Hey on captain would plasma shrimp let him shoot a lot of rockets since he has a shotgun?

[lavish jacinth]

Yes, each pellet is an individual proc

[quaint wagon]

oh thats so nice

[gilded fog]

I’ve been trying to unlock operator’s alt, but I keep losing too much height before the hunter spawns in and I can use tricorn

Any advice?

I’ve been hovering up, using drones, peppering the control unit with my pistol, but I keep losing too much height in the drone jumping before alloy hunter even spawns in

[lavish jacinth]

If you get too close to the ground, you can use ejection core to launch yourself upward and reset your falling speed

[gilded fog]

I forgot I could equip that, I’ve been using the amp thing

Thx!!

[lavish jacinth]

And don't forget that you can jump from drones and still use the leap, you don't have to leap directly from drone to drone

[gilded fog]

Goootcha, so if I can’t get a coupler or a chrysalis, I should jump, then hop from a drone, just to keep more distance in the air

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[gilded fog]

Thanks, I appreciate the advice!!

[lavish jacinth]

Np

[ocean monolith]

Leaping up will grant you more height, allowing you to stall further

[gilded fog]

I see, I see.
My main issue is getting the Solus command thing low enough for the hunter yo spawn in time, that’ll help a ton, appreciate it

[gilded bane]

you can also loop if you need too

[ocean monolith]

Focus on getting damage

If you get the seed that gives you a Coupler and 2 Guns, do that

[heavy gorge]

They both do it

Source: I use both

[marble osprey]

They both do the little air stall thing on throwing it, but if you're in range of the default one when it goes off it launches you upward a second time, like it does to enemies

[quaint wagon]

does lysate cell work on captain? and if so how does it work?

[lavish jacinth]

each stack gives him one extra use of his primary beacon per stage

although it doesn't immediately update when you pick one up, so you don't get the extra beacon on the stage you're currently on

[quaint wagon]

Ah gottca

thank you

[violet dust]

at what difficulty do large monsters spawn on gilded coast

[gilded fog]

Y’all got any advice for completing False Son: Family bonding?
I just played an 86 minute game where I got everything right…. But then a tc-280 stole the kill

After you get to around “HAHAHAHAHA” you start just killing everything so fast that nothing really matters
But that damn drone… I never should’ve got it

[jaunty furnace]

avoid getting stuff that could take the kill

drones, atgs, etc

get raw damage

like

[sudden timber]

Do ror2 dev planning on release more character with the same physique as Bandit or Captain? (I'm asking for a friend)

[livid wedge]

What

[jade wraith]

Difficulty scales with time so it depends on what time you enter it+your current difficulty level

[violet dust]

What i meant to ask was at what enemy level

[jade wraith]

Im not quite sure what you're asking tbh sorry. I dont think there is a way to measure enemy level other than time/starting difficulty

without using external tools that is

[livid wedge]

Also depends on stage. Each new stage multiplies the current difficulty by 1.15, I think

[lavish jacinth]

it literally shows the enemy level right next to the timer

[jade wraith]

ah

you're right lol

Idk i feel like around stage 3 moonsoon between 30-40 min I start seeing them, I couldnt tell you what the level is though since I dont usually pay attention to that

[mellow crystal]

i don't think we can really give a proper answer to this because it's pretty much like asking "when does this product sell out at this restaurant"
there are predictable factors to determine the answer but they're different every time you visit and nobody actually pays attention to them

[hallow stream]

are they like ever gonna add crossplay

[high forum]

nope

or at least, don't hold your breath for it

[steel lance]

they haven't definitively said it'll never happen but prospects are grim

[heavy gorge]

This franchise has always had a weird anti-affinity for multiplayer stuff. You needed hamachi or specific port forwarding in the first game and crossplay is impossibly complicated in the sequel

[marble osprey]

This page on the wiki has all the complicated explanations behind it, if you wanna look through it, but yeah there's no simple answer to it
https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Directors#Spawning_Monsters

[quiet thistle]

11

[violet dust]

ty all

[sour saffron]

I just fought the False Son for the first time, and I have no idea how to dodge his beam attack. Where's the cover?

[bitter steeple]

Hide behind the pillars

Also, how does the shipping request form actually work because I’ve gotten it a bunch of times and I’ve never been able to use it

[marble osprey]

It spawns a little tri-shop looking thing with a choice between two free items on the next stage

More of them increase the chances of better items

[cunning gorge]

How does Heretics negative health regen work with healing items? Like would a medkit actually damage you a certain amount instead of healing?

[marble osprey]

no, it's just negative by default

medkits dont scale off your regen stat

slugs just add to it, so they can nullify it/ get you back to positive regen

things that multiply it can make it worse though, like spinel tonic i think

[cunning gorge]

damn I have been lying to myself for years

thank you

[marble osprey]

np

[sour saffron]

I won. Power Mode is INCREDIBLE at facetanking with dual nailguns and scythe

Damn, their C-skin is cool

Either way, was SOTS fixed post-launch? I really enjoyed that

I made a horrible mistake

I offered a watch to the shrine of rebirth, thinking the run would continue

[marble osprey]

Ah unfortunate

[marble osprey]

Yeah (mostly)

[sour saffron]

I'd have given my quail if I'd known

What are the odds of a halcyon pillar spawning in the dlc areas btw?

I need a seed for him

[marble osprey]

Not too good, the best way to get the seed is just repeatedly go to newt shop, the things that let you choose your next stage have a pretty high chance of giving you the option to go to gilded coast

[sour saffron]

Noted

I thought going to the shop would take you off the storm path

[marble osprey]

It does, but there are little golden things hidden around the shop if you go in after stage 1, 2, or 3, destroying them all creates a green portal letting you go back in
Also if you go into gilded coast and you're in the right stage range, it'll also spawn a green portal to put you back on the path

[sour saffron]

I haven't seen ol' Newty in two years, time I paid him a visit

Question is, which is better for a solo run, meditate or palm blast?

Oh, also, is there anything I can do to make airborne souls easier besides looping?

Like, a way to boost Spirit Punch's radius or something

[mellow crystal]

meditate is pretty much undeniably better

big aoe nuke for 1900% damage that gives you a self revive and healing

[mellow crystal]

or her alt util

[full apex]

Difficulty does too which is funny, the degen is much more manageable on monsoon and more brutal on drizzle lol

[flat adder]

Once you have 10 of something like tri tip to equal 100%, does proc coefficient still affect it or will it always proc?

[primal vector]

Proc affects yeah

[sour saffron]

I got it, it was easy when things got hectic

I'm working on unlocking false son next

[sour saffron]

Om mani padme hum is split into three parts. Where are parts 2 and 3 used?

[sour saffron]

Proc coefficient multiplies every proc chance. With nailgun's 0.6 proc coefficient, you'd need 17 tri tips to max it out

[heavy lodge]

Im returning to the game after beating it for the first time like a year ago, which survivors should I aim to unlock?

[mossy ledge]

heh on the topic of proc coefficients… I’m wondering about Leeching Seed, the wiki has this description:

Upon damaging an enemy, the holder recovers 1 (+1 per stack) health, multiplied by the proc coefficient of the hit.

this may be a stupid question but does it mean it will always heal at least 1hp and then more based on the hit’s proc coefficient, or does it mean that a proc coefficient of less than 1.0 would… heal less than 1hp??? is that even possible? lol

[heavy gorge]

1 is the minimum. Even if your coefficient is under 1, the seed will still heal by 1

[mossy ledge]

I see, thank you. so then the multiplication is only related to Railgunner’s supercharged railgun with a proc coefficient of 3.0 then?

[heavy gorge]

If you have 2 stacks of leeching seed or higher, that’s when a sub-1 proc coefficient can reduce your healing

It just can’t go under 1

Railgunner, False Son, and CHEF are the characters with beefy proc coefficients.

[trim lynx]

it can go under 1

damage/heal numbers are just rounded to the ceiling

0.5 proc coeff hit will heal 0.5 health

[trim lynx]

it does heal less than one, stuff like that is rounded up visually for readability, however the true value is a float/decimal

[robust crown]

yooo I love this game and I would love to get the chance to play with my friends but we have separate platforms (i'm on pc and they're on ps5) are u planning to add crossplatform to the game ? why ? why not ? when ? thanks in advance 🙏

[lavish jacinth]

It's unlikely that crossplay will ever get added, it would require rewriting most of the multiplayer code. Devs haven't 100% confirmed it'll never happen but don't hold your breath for it

[trim lynx]

its been heavily requested, however multiplayer is built around specific platforms so it would take a whole lot of work. we havent had any indication they have plans for it

[robust crown]

thanks for you answers guys 🙏 🙏 🙏

[heavy gorge]

I'm sorry I got that wrong. That serves me right for not double checking.

[trim lynx]

nah all is good its hard to check in game and thats the info the game provides

[heavy lodge]

?

[ocean monolith]

All of them

[lavish jacinth]

They're all worth getting

unless you want something specific right now, but you might as well get them all eventually

[heavy gorge]

If you want to be OP, unlock False Son if you haven’t already

If you don’t possess DLC, I recommend getting engineer and loader

If you get engineer, unlock his alternate secondary and alternate utility asap

Loader’s defaults are epic so don’t worry as hard

Well engineer is more of a “when” than an “if” since his challenge is beating or entering (I forgot) 30 stages across as many runs as you need

[long raven]

also go through AC dlc if you have it because the 2nd character is very fun (and the 1st one as well)

[compact condor]

does chef's sear work with backup mag properly? It appears to cancel the first use of sear when i activate the second one. I'm unsure if it applies two instances of sear but just has them on a single sear animation (Although its more likely just a SoTS character bug thats slipped through the cracks for a while)

[quasi magnet]

Does going into the bazaar between time and using that thing that makes you dream (idk what its called) to get a certain stage invalidate "Commando: Incorruptible" or nah?

[zealous willow]

Hey random but was doing a run with commando cuz I'm grinding stuff for all the characters and..what the heck is this? I have never gotten this in a run with any other characters and I got it from killing an enemy, does anyone know what this is?

It says it's an equipment but I can't use it

[rotund flare]

its a super rare item that has a 1/4000 chance to drop from elite mobs and it gives you the ability that the elite mob has

[zealous willow]

Oh!

Interesting

Thank you!

[lavish jacinth]

nah, you're allowed to spend lunar coins, you just can't pick up lunar items

[quasi magnet]

alr

[rapid bay]

is there a more consistent way to get to guilded coast?

other than dreaming?

[high forum]

That is the most consistent, honestly. The only other way is through Gold Shrines

[marble osprey]

All the ways I know of are the gold altar, a halcyon shrine on stages 4,5, or in the path of colossus, or dreaming for it. Of those, dreaming for it is definitely the most consistent, but getting a halcyon shrine on stage 5 seems to happen to me fairly frequently
But yeah there's no fully consistent way to do it

[night geyser]

sots stages are more likely to have halcyon shrine also

so helminth is more likely than sky meadows to house a halc shrine

[hoary sedge]

^this is only true if you have all 3 dlcs enabled because of the extremely janky content source limit btw

basically a stage can only have monsters and interactables from 2 dlcs at once, unless the stage itself is from a dlc in which case that dlcs content is always added for 'free'

but some stages are broken and will never spawn with certain dlcs if you have all 3 active, and helminth is one of them and will always have ac and sots content, while sky meadows works correctly and has a 33% chance to not have sots content

[sour saffron]

Can you see games hosted by players with all three DLCs while only having two?

[lavish jacinth]

I don't see why not

you don't need dlcs to join a game with someone who has them

[marble osprey]

You can yeah, but I would highly recommend using the lfg channels here over looking for lobbies in-game, the system for it isn't great

[undone tree]

How can i play simulacrum to unlock the void fiend?

Got it nvm

[quartz escarp]

i js bought survivors of the void. does railgunner have more to her than the occasional snipe then holding m1

[severe moss]

more crit chance = more crit damage

[quartz escarp]

i see, so basically an anti material rifle turned into character

[sour saffron]

Her active reload boosts her damage

[quartz escarp]

do you mean the little minigamd each time you fire?

[sour saffron]

Your m1 unscoped also has slight self-kncokback you can use to extend your concussion mine jumps

Yes, time your reload properly for increased damage

[quartz escarp]

about the mines, are they merely for knockback and traversal?

[sour saffron]

Yes

I typically use them to get around, or disengage from deadly enemies

[lavish jacinth]

more like sniping with the occasional m1 but yeah

also don't bother getting crit chance on her, the conversion ratio is 2:1 so you're only getting a 5% bonus for a stack of lensmakers

[quartz escarp]

just keep in mind i am still very new, i havent even got to beat the final boss, got him to phase 3 rainstorm

all the percent mumbo jumbo, i dont understand

[lavish jacinth]

she does have a small amount of tech, throwing both mines at once will instantly detonate the first one so you can get an immediate boost if you need it (just be careful that the second mine doesn't launch enemies towards you)

her primary also has recoil that can reduce fall damage or extend a jump slightly if you fire it downward

but for the most part she's a pretty straightforward sniper

[lavish jacinth]

well in this case it's pretty simple, a 5% damage increase is really small and not at all worth it lol. Literally any other damage white item would be better

but if you do want an explanation
anything that says "X% base damage" is a fixed amount of damage that scales with your survivor's base damage stat, for most survivors it's 12 (+2.4 per level)

if an item says it deals "X% total damage", then that's a % of the hit that procced it, and is used exclusively by on-hit effects

and any item that says "deal X% more damage" is just a multiplier to ANY damage you deal, but usually those items have some condition that needs to be met (like only applying to enemies that are above 90% health). Note that damage multipliers are always multiplicative with each other, so it's better to combine different items rather than stacking one thing

*also worth adding total damage procs don't inherit the damage bonus from multipliers, but they can get that bonus separately so long as the condition is still met when the proc deals damage

so you can't double dip on the same multiplier (except lunar ruin but dw about that)

[quick seal]

thoughts on meridians will vs step of the brothers? Unlocked it today and i’ve found it pretty miserable to use

[marble osprey]

Personally I really like meridian's will
It buffs the stat increases you get from growth, so using it while all your spikes are out gives you a ton of extra movement speed to move around better, and the duration of that effect increases with growth as well so you can get permanent uptime on it
The distance you can teleport also scales with your movement speed, which is nice, and it can lock onto flying enemies to teleport to, letting you teleport to them and whack em with your club, which is fun

But yeah definitely focus more on using the buff you get after teleporting, rather than just how to best use the teleport itself

[brittle shuttle]

theyre pretty equal balance wise to not really give a damn

mwill scales extremely well with health items meanwhile step of the brothers provides a better baseline utility skill for false son to utilize

two instances of on command iframes with a recursive aoe effect to eradicate anything that dare stand in a line

plus its easier to use with his falling slam that increases its proc co to 1.5 if falling for more than .5s

and it can be used with an uncharged slam (the shitty little overhead swing) which has an obnormally long lingering hitbox, effectively putting another 400% damage on whatever you come in contact with

[steel lance]

based on what you've said here, my advice would be that her railgun is very viable on enemies at melee range too — it pierces, so if you're getting swarmed by enemies it'll do a lot better than just holding m1 will, and it oneshots pretty much every small enemy at every stage of the game provided you hit a weakpoint

m1 has its moments for sure, but it sounds like you might be undervaluing the m2 a little

[marble osprey]

Also if you're bad at scoping in to deal with close-up targets (i am) just use your special, you can fire it without scoping in and just obliterate whatever is in front of you. You don't have to save it for big targets, nuke that rat

[steel lance]

though obviously if you're using the default special you get locked out of your primary and secondary for a few seconds afterward

[cunning gorge]

tips for completing like... all of Chefs challenges? Specifically: Does applying more stacks of burn on mithrix reset the cooldown? When it says 'recipe' do I just oil and sear bison or do I have to do something specific?

[lavish jacinth]

with 7 syringes worth of attack speed, sear should apply enough burn stacks to get the unlock, and ofc any other source of burn applies too.
for the bison one you literally just do exactly what it says, oil a bison and then sear it

and for the roll one

(you can also use primordial cube to group up flying enemies, yes chef + roll makes it easier since the spinning blades also count as a hit)

[steel lance]

reapplying burn doesn't reset the duration of previous stacks, but a few syringes or a molotov 6-pack make that one pretty easy

[lavish jacinth]

backup mags also help a little, but iirc the burn from sear lasts almost exactly as long as the skill's duration, so the stacks wear off fast once it ends

[steel lance]

yes, chef + roll actually makes this challenge incredibly easy because if you go into a group of enemies and use empowered roll with a breaching fin it'll instantly knock the enemies up and give you the achievement

[cunning gorge]

that is so fun to watch

holy

also thanks for alla yalls help

[cunning gorge]

back again - does Captains hacking beacon include the lunar items in the bazaar? or is it only like coin things

nvm he doesnt even get beacons in here

[wanton hamlet]

does hunter's tricorn kill solus wing??

idk if the matrix counts as a unique reward

[steel lance]

hacking beacons work on anything with a gold cost displayed and nothing else

[steel lance]

it does not

would be very funny if you could just skip the boss fight because you found one equipment tho

[wanton hamlet]

thx, i was gonna kill alloy hunter normally and then solus but guess huntress has to die

[steel lance]

tbh if you're confident with alloy hunter you should prob use it on the solus control unit that spawns before her, empathy cores are way better than faulty conductor

[wanton hamlet]

yeah but alloy wing already ded so :P

[quasi magnet]

How on earth did I die, what even killed me

[hexed lotus]

You got killed

[jaunty furnace]

maybe the giant elite beetle guard you watched slam you into the ground

[quasi magnet]

how do i avoid that

[jaunty furnace]

move

you sat in its face

[quasi magnet]

to be fair my computre was very laggy at the time it wasnt loading that well by the time i realized it was an elite beetle guard and not a regular one i had died

[grand sluice]

hey, any idea why hermit carbs don't spawn in titanic plains? I've got the artifact of command, swarms, and sacrifice, and have looped twice now

nevermind. it seems I had to wait for around 10~15 minutes before they started spawning

[visual fog]

question:
is 's scrap launcher affected by rate of fire like soldier syringes?

[sour saffron]

You were slammed by the beetle guard, and its afterburn finished you off

[quasi magnet]

i'll try again with tougher times then

[lavish jacinth]

or just don't try to facetank enemies like that

[lavish jacinth]

yes, it'll shoot faster but it won't affect the cooldown

[red violet]

I was thinking about getting the DLCS, should I get them on PS5 or PC? I was thinking PC because I wanted to try mods out.

[visual fog]

ok very cool
I thought the thing gaslit me

[lavish jacinth]

PC is probably best if you've got a good enough computer for it

[quasi magnet]

like i said before the game was lagging and my reaction time is shit

[jaunty furnace]

pc is always better, if youve got a non-potato toaster atleast

you can use your controller on pc anyway

[red violet]

Oh that’s nice you can use a controller. I’m brand new to pc, I have an Omen gaming laptop? So idk if it could run it fine

[lavish jacinth]

you don't need a crazy powerful pc to run the game, if it can handle other modern games then it should do okay with ror2

[marble osprey]

My laptop is garbage and I can run it, although I have to turn a lot of the graphics settings down, a gaming laptop will run it just fine

[mossy ledge]

MATH GUY HI

IVE GOT A QUESTION IF I MAY

[marble osprey]

Go for it lol

[mossy ledge]

good evening btw!!!! I’m with my friend in Sundered Grove for the uh, artifact code and I faintly remember someone mentioning that this place doesn’t even have one! are we gonna run around for hours for no tablet or no code 😔

I am fairly certain this place HAS to have one, because every single basegame level so far has had one

actually… same question goes for Commencement. do these levels have codes?

[marble osprey]

Nope, neither of those have codes

[mossy ledge]

WHAT!!! NOWAY

SO THAT MEANS… either some basegame levels have double codes ORRRR there’s more that aren’t in regular gameplay…

[livid wedge]

The second

[mossy ledge]

ah. interesting! thank you both, very much

[marble osprey]

Np
I'm assuming you're just missing two codes rn then?

[mossy ledge]

I believe three! the rest seem to be DLC stuff so I’ll worry about them later

[livid wedge]

Only 2 are dlc

[steel lance]

this page gives you cryptic hints as to the locations of every code if you're interested in that
https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_Hints

[marble osprey]

The ones for the ones I'm pretty sure they're missing aren't very cryptic though

[steel lance]

yea true actually

tbh i googled the last code i needed for all achievements because ||i didn't want to have to want until i happened to get the abyssal depths environment log|| (spoiler is literally the location of a code so maybe don't click on it robothing)

[marble osprey]

Yeah that's what I'm concerned about but idk how to ask if they have that without spoiling where it is lol

I think they can get it from the info they have though

[mossy ledge]

wow cool!!!!1

I like how considerate you guys are being about not spoiling, I appreciate it

[mossy ledge]

should I uh, should I say which ones I’m missing?

I swear if Ambry itself has one…. 😔

[steel lance]

would you like to know whether it does or not?

[mossy ledge]

okay lowkey yes because then we’re gonna go looking for it next time 💪

[steel lance]

||there is one in bulwark's ambry, i think it's there regardless of which ambry variant you're in||

[mossy ledge]

AWW SHIET you kinda spoiled me there that theres. more of those

welp. I appreciate the answer regardless XD

and I still don’t know how to access those so nothing is lost here

[marble osprey]

No the ambry can just look different, it's not more stages

[steel lance]

there are four but you just get one at random every time you go there, you've probably seen multiple already and not realised

[mossy ledge]

oh my god REALLY???

[marble osprey]

Kinda like how maps can have different variations

[steel lance]

there's default, aphelian research, tar research and wisp research

[mossy ledge]

I’ve visited it 21 times and I haven’t seen Ambry variations how can I be this blind

[marble osprey]

They're dlc exclusive which is probably why

[mossy ledge]

oh. OH LMAO

[steel lance]

ohhhhh yeah true

if you're trying to 100% your logbook you'll need to go back after you get the dlc tho because each one has its own environment log

[mossy ledge]

what if I wanted to 100% my logbook….

but Hopoo said

”Mercenary: Ethereal”

okay I’m joking I wish I could 100% it but I’m scared of that one

[marble osprey]

Just watch cabbage's vids on YouTube, he completes it every time, just wait until there's a good one

[mossy ledge]

this is giving me hope… maybe one day… the day when I can complete the game on monsoon without the prototype drone

then maybe I could also do that one

[marble osprey]

I believe in you lol

[mossy ledge]

THANKS 👏👏

me and my friend shall proceed to Bulwark’s Ambry tomorrow then perhaps!! I will tell you guys how it went then

I love this channel people are so cool here

[marble osprey]

Best of luck <3

[mossy ledge]

YEAY THANKS

[marble osprey]

Might have better luck in #ror2-modding

[edgy forge]

I'm dumb and didn't know that channel existed oops

[marble osprey]

It happens a lot dw lol

[nova sluice]

I know this is probably an overasked question but is there anyway to consistently dodge Mithrix's dashing/sprinting hammer swipe? It feels like the way he dashes is completley random. I almost always get hit if he is near me when he dashes backwards then forwards or when he does the move without dashing at all. Even with feathers he usually can tag me on the way down. I'm playing commando with slide and I've been struggling with the later eclipse levels largely because I can't beat this guy consistently.

[lavish jacinth]

the dash is a little different in eclipse 4+, his AI doesn't compensate for the extra speed and so he tends to move kinda weirdly. Sometimes you can actually dodge his dash by running towards him because he'll frequently overshoot and end up behind you

staying on or near the ramps is also always a safe strat

and ofc having minions taking his aggro is always useful

if it helps, the wiki explains roughly how his AI works, listed in order of priority https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Mithrix#Behaviors

[marble osprey]

Personally I usually don't bother, like you said it's super fast, but it doesn't deal much damage. Instead I just make sure to look for defensive items, like some opals, warped echo, and armor increases like rose buckler, and you can tank those hits just fine, as long as you can avoid getting hit by other things well enough to consistently have opals up. Safer spaces also takes care of it, but you can't rely on getting that every time ofc
For commando with slide, you can also just look for the item faraday spurs if you have the newest dlc, as that's enough on it's own to keep you in the air permanently letting you dodge that easily

[lapis zenith]

what's the loot disparity like in multiplayer

[lavish jacinth]

+50% loot per player

[lapis zenith]

for some reason i can't find pretty much anything about multiplayer on the wiki apart from a small mention in difficulty scaling

for once fandom and wiki.gg are equally useless

would be nice if multiplayer had its own page rather than quick mentions on related pages

[lavish jacinth]

it's on the page about spawn directors

[lapis zenith]

and this is why we need a page specifically for multiplayer

how was i supposed to find that

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's on the page that covers how loot spawning works, it's a logical enough place to put it

and multiplayer doesn't really have a lot of changes outside of the differences in loot and difficulty scaling

[lapis zenith]

yet i don't know what that page is called

which is why it would just be logical to make a page for multiplayer

[lavish jacinth]

directors

[lapis zenith]

how am i supposed to know that's about loot, it just sounds like a page about the devs

a wiki is supposed to be easy to navigate

which is why there needs to be a multiplayer page

[lavish jacinth]

if you wanna suggest it we have a channel for that #ror-wiki-discussion

[lapis zenith]

i shouldn't need to check 10 different pages i don't know the names of to know about how a gamemode works

[marble osprey]

Ok then you can create one, go for it

[lapis zenith]

i'll gladly create one, just know it's not on me as a new player to get the info right

"do it yourself" has a fatal flaw, competency

[marble osprey]

Also you can find the page about directors in the page about mechanics

[jaunty furnace]

or. yknow.

good ol 🔍

[frosty reef]

Don't you dare mention search bars. That's the devil

[mossy ledge]

hey guys :-)
(status update on yesterday: I found the artifact code but my friend lost their voice so not getting the artifact itself today 😭)
anyway, question about Void Fiend, this whole corruption mechanic is pretty interesting with all the rules about damage and crits and healing! but um…. how exactly does harvester’s scythe react with the corruption gauge?? does the healing from crits negate the corruption increase or are the crits able to overcome that? idk how to word this better sorry

[south egret]

pretty sure it goes down because of healing

[mossy ledge]

I’m like testing it out here and I’m seeing no difference to anything (max crit chance and one scythe)

[mossy ledge]

ah yes I see, thank you. I was a bit confused by the wiki saying that scythe would ”help” to increase the corruption gauge, when it also heals lol

[south egret]

ok, so it seems that if the health you are healing is less than 2% of your max health [hp>400(+200 per stack)] then the crit helps. Otherwise, it’s a net loss

[mossy ledge]

oooooohhh okayokay lot to consider here!

okay quick additional question if someone has the time, is titanic knurl fine then? like base health regen things should be fine?

[jaunty furnace]

passive regen is fine yes

anything that doesnt have green numbers

is good (as usual)

[mossy ledge]

thanks 👍👍👍

[mossy ledge]

my friends keep scrapping this calling it a snail smoothie 💔 brutal

[lavish jacinth]

It's one of the best healing items in the game as long as you're decent at avoiding damage

its regen scales with your level so the +3hp/s ends up being a lot better than it sounds

[mossy ledge]

wait but it’s out of combat, right? I thought your own attacks count as ”in combat”

[lavish jacinth]

it's out of danger

[mossy ledge]

OH RIGHT

[lavish jacinth]

I think the only item that uses "in combat" is red whip

[mossy ledge]

you guys might have just saved so many slugs if I can challenge people to try and keep the health regen active

[jaunty furnace]

slug is like my #1 healing item lol

[mossy ledge]

friend already gets an ego boost from preferring safer spaces to tougher times LMAO

[jaunty furnace]

i just need 2 and im good for the whole run

anything more is getting a bit excessive

[mossy ledge]

slug friends… :-)

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, safer spaces is generally better (again, assuming you don't get hit too often)

[mossy ledge]

the thing that kills me is ALWAYS attacks that go ratatatata so I am a tougher times truther still

[lavish jacinth]

for that there's

[mossy ledge]

but I read somewhere that it doesn’t do very well in lategame… how do I stop flying lunar chimeras from turning me into swiss cheese on monsoon

[lavish jacinth]

stick to cover

[mossy ledge]

the usual method 🙏🙏

[lavish jacinth]

their machine gun always fires for exactly 4 seconds and then has a pretty long cooldown after, so you get a good window to attack it

[mossy ledge]

ok gotchu, thanks

[pastel epoch]

Or run circles around them. They only rotate so fast. Depends on your speed and distance from them of course.

[quick seal]

tips for just... playing chef? I got all his unlocks but i still find him clunky. cant decide on what abilities to use, and im trying to get eclipse 8

[pastel epoch]

I currently go for defaults except for the ice cubes secondary. I personally just throw all cleavers, then use a ranged ability, cleavers again, ability, etc. For the mobility, you don’t need to charge it all the way if you don’t want to. Especially on eclipse, rolling recklessly will lead to a lot of fall damage.

Also oil reduces armor iirc so use it early in your cycle against the chunkiest enemy you want to deal with.

[tawny flame]

Hello ! I got a lil question to ask: How do i unlock the Drifter? (Also if it's possible can it just maybe be in hints? Like not straight up telling me how to do it completely. Thanks in advance !)

[woeful halo]

Explorin’ the virtual portal route might lead you to somethin’

Make sure to pay attention to interactables

[tawny flame]

Oooh alright... Thanks for answering !

[quaint wagon]

Loaders damage is based off her speed right?

[trim lynx]

her current velocity specifically not her speed stat, ya !!!!

for her utility skills

[quaint wagon]

Okie thank you im trying her out becasue shes the only melee charater i havent mastered

[tawny flame]

I may gonna say something stupid but isn't there a trick where if you aim straight down with the charged gauntlet it will count as like high/max speed?

[trim lynx]

if there is im not aware

you can jump and grapple down then charge forwards which gives you a bit of a boost of speed tho

from gravity and grapple combined

[tawny flame]

Maybe just me remembering something that doesn't exist (most likely that)

[analog brook]

Im assuming not but does a twisted scavenger count towards the "acrid: bad medicine" achievement?

[tawny flame]

Nope gotta be a normal scavenger

[quaint wagon]

i have and it does not

[tawny flame]

So it gotta be a normal scavenger?

[quaint wagon]

Yeah

[analog brook]

Oh wouldn't expect the wiki to have this info lol, thank you for searching though :)

You should use the wiki.gg version btw

[tawny flame]

Oh there's another wiki? I'll go see

[tawny flame]

Update: Yeah it looks 100x cleaner and it feels better lol

[marble osprey]

yeah we also stopped updating the fandom one a while ago so it may not be up to date and doesn't have much of anything from the AC dlc

[marble osprey]

I go all alt abilities
freeze is crazy useful for the secondary

roll can get you killed easily, while alt secondary lets you cancel fall damage and is also pretty good at dealing with crowds

and yes chef is just really good, use boosted dice while in the middle of a big enemy for crazy damage, boosted ice box for a big 1500% damage hit that also freezes, and boosted utility to spread oil everywhere and deal with crowds

but you pretty much want to be using all of his abilities off cooldown tbh

at least with this loadout, you probably don't wanna do that with roll

[main acorn]

any tips for beating voidling

[brazen briar]

Any tips for bandit’s challenges? Tried the 20 hemo stacks with what time I had but it seems tuff

[marble osprey]

Mainly just get a bunch of backup mags, and then either get behind a big enemy or get the ocular hud equipment for guaranteed crits
Attack speed can also help to spam them out faster, and any kind of cooldown reduction can help mitigate the number of backup mags you need, like purity, luminous shot, or alien head can make it a bit easier

[tawny flame]

The Artifact of Command will also help a lot too since you can choose your own items! Also maybe a Grandparent is the perfect enemy for that since they don't move (idk?)

[feral river]

there is a corrupt teddy bear on the ground, but I have the 57 leaf clover and already have a teddy bear, should I pick it up, or should I reroll it?

[tawny flame]

Wait i just discovered the 57 clover doesn't affect Tougher Times?! Huh...okay why not lol

[feral river]

holy shit i thought that it did

[tawny flame]

Right? Like why wouldn't affect it?? Eh Risk of Rain moment

[feral river]

but my question still remains, cause i could get other white void items

[tawny flame]

Well that's a tough decision... Without any bad pun

But i don't have enough playtime with the dlcs to know what's between corrupted teddy bear or not soo uuh... Idk

[feral river]

i just picked up, to be safer

[tawny flame]

Hope your run goes well !

[feral river]

thanks

well if you look at my items you can see that its pretty op right now😭

[tawny flame]

Yeah i like it when runs starts off great! Now gotta pray the RNG is by your side for the whole run

[ocean monolith]

Correct play btw

[feral river]

i'll move this discussion to ror2-discussion cause it fits better

[lapis zenith]

why can't i make my game public

[marble osprey]

Because it'd make it too easy to become basically invincible mainly

[tawny flame]

Oh yeah true because if i remember correctly 57 clover doubles the effect of luck right?

[marble osprey]

Yeah

[tawny flame]

Yeah so it'd be easily broken- Okay so it's smart from them

[brazen briar]

Goootchu

[red eagle]

How do I Delete RoR2 Profile?

I Accidentally Make Another Profile and I Can't Delete it.

[lavish jacinth]

if you're on steam, save files should be at C:\Program Files(x86)\Steam\userdata[Number]\632360\remote\UserProfiles

[red eagle]

Tried it Before and Doesn't Delete Anything.

I Even Turn Off Steam Cloud and the Result Still the Same.

[lavish jacinth]

Weird, are you sure you're deleting the right thing? or does the profile just come back when you start the game?

Either way it doesn't hurt anything by being there, just use your main profile

[red eagle]

I Deleted 2 Files Inside That Folder That Seems to be the Additional Profile That I Dont Use, Yep it Just Coming Back after I Start the Game.

[lavish jacinth]

strange

it should only be one file though, an xml file with a bunch of numbers and letters as the name

but ror2 is weird about save files sometimes so idk

like I said, there's no harm in keeping the extra profile

[cunning gorge]

Do any of y'all know why my Run History got deleted? I had runs in there since about 2022 but a month ago they just randomly disspaeared. I tried waiting it out and they aren't back. Maybe they're still in the files?

[marble osprey]

should be in steamapps/common/Risk of Rain 2/Risk of Rain 2_Data/RunReports

there was a mod called HistoryFix but it seems like it's deprecated now so idk

[ocean monolith]

That mod still works

It’s just not being updated (not that it needs to)

[quartz escarp]

maybe its to scratch that itch of having a neatly made profile list, like having an unneeded one is seen as junk in an otherwise perfectly organized room

[grand sluice]

does accepting the collective's offering on monsoon also counts as "beat the game or obliterate on monsoon"?

[lavish jacinth]

Yep, any win will count, it doesn't matter which ending you get

[grand sluice]

gotchu ^^

[toxic lodge]

Can anyone confirm since I don't trust the ai overview

if I buy a dlc, and a friend buys a dlc, and I host, do we get access to both dlcs?

[trim lynx]

bar survivors and achievements, yes

[toxic lodge]

Ah cool, so like I can play my survivors he plays his but item and stage wise we're chilling?

[trim lynx]

pretty much you cant play as survivors you dont own, even in lobbies with the dlc enabled

but yeah both dlcs can be enabled at the same time

[toxic lodge]

appreciate you! That's good enough for me : D

[trim lynx]

its nice

[lament aspen]

So like I literally just got the game like yesterday

I got the achievement for killing something with every bounce of the huntresses glaive and that unlocks something for the characters moveset?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, all* of the survivors have alternate skills that can be unlocked
-# *except for one specific dlc character some reason

[lament aspen]

I see

[lament aspen]

Looking through some of them its a little interesting

Reset 15 times with bandit abilty okay, get 15 kills without touching the ground artificer okay, get 12 crowbars on huntress ? ? ? I mean okay BEAT AN AREA WITHOUT DROPPING BELOW 100% hp ?????????????????????

[lavish jacinth]

the difficulty of the challenges varies a lot lol

the 100% health one for huntress isn't quite as bad as it sounds, and the skill it unlocks is extremely good

the wiki has tips for all of the unlocks if you're interested https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Huntress:_Piercing_Wind

[ocean monolith]

You unironically have no reason NOT to complete that challenge

Arrow Rain is just that fucking bad

[lament aspen]

I mean the huntress seems kinda weak in my very limited experience extremely fun because of sheer movement mechanics

The damage just seems

To be fair the only other characters I have played are the bandit and the artificer both of which seem to be designed to have relatively high damage

[lavish jacinth]

you're not wrong, huntress has some of the lowest dps in the game

but she's easy to use and has solid mobility

[lament aspen]

Auto aim and the mobility is apparent in general though the movement of this game seems to be the biggest skill of it even in my very little time I noticed things like fall damage canceling with the bandits melee

[ebon berry]

hey if i have the dlcs and play with a friend who does not will he be able to have the same zones/item as i do or not?

[jaunty furnace]

the only things he cant access are survivors and achievements

[lament aspen]

So

I have 37 health but deal 4k damage now

[lavish jacinth]

it be like that sometimes

[lament aspen]

Im pretty sure I should have died like 20 minutes ago but I have the item that shocks enemies near me

Shame I wasnt playing huntress would have been perfect since it was the right stage

Anyways so like I have been using the rifle on the bandit but I feel like shotgun would be better since the revolver can basically serve the sane function as the rifle would

But idk rifle feels better to me

[woeful halo]

It is actual garbage

The only thing it has over the other one is range, which is covered by your special

[lament aspen]

Makes sense

[livid wedge]

It has better proc value and no damage dropoff

It is absolutely not garbage

[lavish jacinth]

it's not lol

[lavish jacinth]

they're both fine, shotgun has higher raw damage up close but rifle has better proc potential and infinite range. Just comes down to preference/playstyle mostly

the revolver also gives you range but it has a cooldown, the rifle lets you deal consistent damage at any range (the revolver also has limited range unlike the rifle)

[lament aspen]

Revolver has kill reset though

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, but that falls off hard

[lament aspen]

But yeah I 100% prefer the rifle over the shotgun I just like my dps consistent tbh

[lavish jacinth]

once enemies start getting really tanky and you get more sources of damage from items, it becomes really difficult to consistently get resets on the revolver. And even if you get one, it's even harder to chain kills with it

(which is also why the alt revolver is generally a lot better)

[lament aspen]

The irony being that to get the rifle you have to chain reset

I just did it on the first map tbh

[jaunty furnace]

desperado is just better

[lament aspen]

Getting it is

Not within my current scope

I havent even beat a run yet I died on what I think is the 'final boss'

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, that's a tough one to get until you can beat the final boss consistently

the tricky part is that damage dealt by items won't count for the achievement, so you wanna focus on raw damage multipliers and avoid stuff like or combat drones that could steal the kill

[lament aspen]

Well this run is looking promising its at least going to make it to the boss BUUUUT not only do I have all those things I have 2 combat drones 3 missle drones and a beetle gaurd

Lol

[lavish jacinth]

you can still attempt it but yeah, if you manage to kill the boss then the unlock could still get stolen lol

[lament aspen]

So idk what I did but now there is an artifact of sacrifice thing happening

[steel lance]

did you go through the funky teleporter on stage 5 with the 3x3 grid of nodes next to it?

[lament aspen]

Yeah

Monsters drop items but chests no longer spawn seems fairly self explanatory I think

[steel lance]

after you clear that stage you're going back to stage 1, you'll have to go through 5 more stages to get back to the final boss

[lament aspen]

I see

That will be interesting to deal with after I pick my fiance up from work lol

[lament aspen]

So is the difficulty bar going to still be laughing at me?

[steel lance]

yup!

[lament aspen]

Guess this explains the "going back to stage 1" achievement

[wooden karma]

im trying to figure out which DLC i want to get first since i got all the normal survivors and stuff because the DLC’s are on sale for PlayStation. Which one should i get for most content?

[lavish jacinth]

Get SotV first

[wooden karma]

alright

[woeful halo]

I mean it isn’t bad, but it has recoil that messes with your accuracy at long range and the shotgun destroys compared to it, especially when using the backstab passive

[mellow crystal]

the accuracy bloom resets in less than 0.5s

[lavish jacinth]

The recoil isn't too hard to manage if you space out your shots instead of spamming

[mellow crystal]

you just have to wait the tiniest amount for full accuracy 0 falloff 330% shots

[lavish jacinth]

it also gets better procs and steady damage at any range instead needing to get in close for a quick burst

[steel lance]

the only real issue with rifle for me is the aforementioned antisynergy with bandit's passive, it incentivises ranged play which makes it harder to actually get backstabs

outside of that it's perfectly solid imo

[lavish jacinth]

it's a playstyle choice, rifle lets you play bandit like a slower but punchier commando

[mellow crystal]

yeah rifle is a bit weaker on larger enemies where you focus on them but in exchange you can dispatch of smaller ones and chip away at larger ones at any range

or while you're approaching/retreating

[woeful halo]

Coward’s playstyle

Why would the enemy across the entire map be a bigger threat than anything near you

[mellow crystal]

this is the 12th time i've seen someone say this to deny the idea of blast being not utter dogshit btw

[woeful halo]

Maybe because it’s true

[mellow crystal]

shrug
i'm not interested in arguing this since this has been argued a million times anyway and i'd also rather not support the idea of arguing in the game questions channel

[woeful halo]

You right

[teal snow]

How many bosses can you kill in one run? I'm trying to do a challenge.

[steady stone]

all of them, i believe

rejecting solus lets you continue, false son you can continue, you can do mithrix into voidling with frog

[teal snow]

Lunar secret boss?

[steady stone]

ah, not twisted scav actually no

but mithrix and all of the DLCs are doable

[teal snow]

Okay, thanks! I'll have to settle for not killing twisted scav, but maybe with the new dlc the devs can change that (wink wink nudge nudge)

[ebon berry]

question about alloyed boss, if i went there, ||killed the boss stage 5 then went to 6 and got booted cuz not enough damage, can i go back in the same run if i cycle?||

[livid wedge]

You can't kill spex anyway but yes

Only through sirens call, though

[ebon berry]

do i need to kill friends of the vulture?

[livid wedge]

You should have gotten an encrypted cerebellum from the solus wing fight

There's a chef behind the big orb, to the right

You can combine items. Combine one of items you can with the cerebellum to get the decrypted cerebellum

[ebon berry]

ait ill see

[steel lance]

or by defeating the seekers of the storm final boss! he spawns a portal to the alloyed collective areas afterward too now

[jaunty furnace]

spex is not what you need to attack, if thats what you are asking

hes just the guy letting you fight Big Grok

[heavy gorge]

atgrok is this true

[lapis zenith]

is ror 2 full crossplay

[steel lance]

there is no crossplay in risk of rain 2

[lapis zenith]

so crossplay is just epic and steam

shame

[lament aspen]

So like I have only really played more than 1 run of huntress and bandit is there another character I should try

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, they're all worth trying

[lament aspen]

Im gonna be honest some have 0 appeal to me in a little bit of play time

[lavish jacinth]

is there a certain type of character you prefer?

[lament aspen]

Arguably a skill issue im sure when im more comfortable with the game I will more willingly step out of my comfort zone

[lavish jacinth]

fair

[lament aspen]

Well I enjoy the huntress because of the sheer mobility and I really enjoy the way dpsing feels on the bandit everything flows very well

[bold crypt]

unlock rex

🗣️

[lavish jacinth]

Loader is neat if you like movement, but she's definitely got a learning curve

[lament aspen]

I dont mind a learning curve tbh

[bold crypt]

loader is really fun

[lavish jacinth]

most of it is just getting used to her grapple movement

[lament aspen]

Im gonna be honest 90% of my enjoyment of most characters has been stiffled by every character I have tried getting that stupid jellyfish as the first boss

[fair idol]

hi I'm trying to get 100% of the logbook, does using artifact of dissonance (monsters can appear outside of their usual environments) makes a good, bad or no difference to get monster logs?

[mellow crystal]

you can hide behind walls to avoid the nuke btw

it even creates shadows to help yo usee where's safe

[lament aspen]

I knew that hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahah cough

[bold crypt]

wandering v*grant

it's basically a slur

[mellow crystal]

vandering vagrant

[bold crypt]

vandering wagrant

[mellow crystal]

also i do want to note that loader is a different flavor of mobility compared to huntress

[lavish jacinth]

it's probably helpful for getting logs of enemies that only spawn on a handful of stages, but having every enemy be a possible spawn also makes it less likely to get any specific monster, so it kinda evens out I guess

[mellow crystal]

huntress is sustained combat mobility with a burst in between and loader is mostly traversal mobility with a massive burst for her combat mobility

[lament aspen]

I come from movement games so a different style of mobility is fine I just really like mobility

[lavish jacinth]

you might wanna unlock mercenary too then

[lament aspen]

Im coming to risk of rain from mostly the metroidvainia side of things

[lavish jacinth]

and there isn't anyone who really plays just like bandit, but that kinda goes for every survivor since they're all pretty varied.
The closest might be like... railgunner or commando (with alt skills), maybe? but railgunner is DLC

players also tend to hate commando when they're new, but he grows on you

like, ask any veteran ror2 player, they'll probably tell you that they started liking him more as they got better at the game. Becoming a commando main is basically puberty for ror2 players lol

[lament aspen]

I might end up picking up the dlc its gonna be on sale for another like 10 days I just wanna try out the game before I decide to invest money into it

Especially cause we are saving up to move states

[lavish jacinth]

the dlcs are all worth having, for what it's worth. SotV -> AC -> SotS is the order I'd recommend getting them in

but yeah, decide if you like the game first ofc

[finite basalt]

Hey would you guys say this game is really worth getting into and also is there cross play between console and pc

[livid wedge]

Yes for the first part, no for the second

[steel lance]

there's no cross-platform unfortunately, if you're having fun with it i'd say there's no reason to not keep playing

[ocean monolith]

I'd say wait to get into the game tbh

[jaunty furnace]

wdym? why?

[solemn elk]

crossplay between console and pc doesnt exist unfortunately

[analog brook]

Are you able to proc networked suffering on yourself via hellfire tincture?

[lavish jacinth]

tincture doesn't have a proc coeff

[solemn elk]

i'd assume it behaves like fall damage too and that doesnt proc networked suffering on yourself

but since it has a 0 proc coeff it just wont proc it

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, fall damage doesn't proc anything anyway

but tincture's damage is actually just a hidden DoT

[analog brook]

Oh wow I thought it did

Does runald also ruin the B&W unlock or is it just kjaro btws

(unlock for desperato iirc )

Wiki says to avoid it but

[lavish jacinth]

iirc it has a grace period of a few frames, specifically to allow for runald's and behemoth

but I've never tested to see if it actually works for certain

[analog brook]

Ah yes was added in a post anniversary patch

Dare i say 50% chance it wasn't kept with the database rebuild but oh smell

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it would have to be tested to make sure

but if it does work then that should probably be mentioned on the wiki

probably a safe bet that behemoth at least works, due to it inheriting damage types and counting as a revolver kill normally

[analog brook]

Does anyone have the video of that minimal rg 1M damage setup? The one that's on the newt on stage 2

[lament aspen]

So how am I supposed to even do the artificers one second first boss kill without dlc is the best way to loop back?

[lavish jacinth]

looping will make it easier yeah, eventually you'll have enough damage to do it without even trying