ror2-game-questions

[lavish jacinth]

you could still do it without looping but you'd have to get all four of the hidden realms, which you could technically do but you'd need some good rng to get gilded coast

except planetarium doesn't give you end credits, so you don't get the extra stage from beating it

[cunning gorge]

damn

so ill just have to loop 😔

[lavish jacinth]

eh, it wouldn't take that long

[cunning gorge]

no its not time its just how easy Mithrix gets from that

but thank you for the info

[mint goblet]

Tried playing for the first time, the ground turns invisible at certain angles? Is there a way for me to fix this?

[wind viper]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Drifter:_In_The_Bag

so i had the beetle queen at 77 hp. i tossed it. it died. no unlock???????????

okay what the fuck

i have done it twice now. no unlock

"kill the teleporter boss by hitting it with a shrine of the mountain"

thats a fucking shrine of the mountain. and the boss died when i tossed it at it

is there a way to cheat engine in unlocks that dont work?

i can enjoy challenge for cosmetics. actual content that i paid for and pulled off the required nonsense to access? i want my content

this kinda of infuriating nonsense is making it really hard to enjoy the game

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't count unless you actually activate the shrine

[lavish jacinth]

but yes, the realercheatunlocks mod

[wind viper]

-.- thats not listed ANYWHERE

[lavish jacinth]

it's on the wiki

but yeah, it really should be in the game too

[wind viper]

ah. it IS in the game. but its one of those unintentionally missleading things

multiple ways to missinterpret.
I thought i needed an unclicked shrine to deal the killing blow

[lavish jacinth]

oh it is, I'm dumb lol

[mellow crystal]

speaking of unintentionally misleading laser scope is a 50% damage bonus on crit not doubled crit damage
just want to get that out there if you didn't already know

[wind viper]

its likely a case of
of not seeing all words

[lavish jacinth]

"defeat a boss from the challenge of the Mountain" does sound pretty clear imo

[wind viper]

wait. isnt it still +100% crit damage. but it adds to the natural pool that is already 200%

[mellow crystal]

yup

[wind viper]

i must have read this requirement over 30 times in the past 2 weeks. and not once comprehended the challenge of the mountain being active portion of it.

[wind viper]

steam workshop not exist?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, just thunderstore https://thunderstore.io/ r2modman is the mod manager, get that first and install stuff through it

[wind viper]

thank you

[quiet thistle]

can you complete quests in ror2 modded? using thunderstore?

[marble osprey]

Yes, and you still get the steam achievements for them and everything

[quiet thistle]

ok good, ty, im trying to unlock false son but the dam gold shrine wont spawn, there has to be some QoL mod that can at least lmk if its on the stage or not

[lavish jacinth]

it's easier to just go to the bazaar every stage, gilded coast is decently common in lunar seers

[cunning gorge]

for captain smushed do I send in my supply beacons immediately or do I damage him first? (if i need to damage him about how much?)

[marble osprey]

definitely damage him first, they can't oneshot him. how much you need to damage him depends on your items and how long the run is going for

but you need him to be decently low, but it deals 2000% damage, so he doesnt have to be pixel health or anything

just try to avoid anything that might accidentally kill him while you're getting him low like atgs or runic lens

[cunning gorge]

alr will do thanks

[marble osprey]

np

[drifting swan]

Also try to get a lysate cell so you get a 3rd try

[frozen forum]

Do mobile turrets benefit from attack speed?

[primal vector]

Yes, like flamethrower for example

[scenic crane]

Are MUL-T and Artificer good or should just stick with Bandit?

[upper goblet]

They are all good give them a try

[scenic crane]

okay. Is there a guy with a sword or smth

[upper goblet]

Yea that’s mercenary

[scenic crane]

how do i get him?

is there a website or a list that shows me how to unlock everyone?

[upper goblet]

Yes! There is a wiki and you can watch videos, it’s kinda hard to explain how to get him

[scenic crane]

okay thank you i’ll go look for it

[upper goblet]

Okay let me know if you need help with anything

[lavish jacinth]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/True_Respite

[upper goblet]

Is the poison or blight leap better

[lavish jacinth]

poison

[upper goblet]

Okay

[gritty drift]

why aurelionite didn't spawn?

??

[brittle shuttle]

auri spawns on phase 4

[gritty drift]

ohh thanks ❤️

[night totem]

ello

[keen wedge]

"HELLO THERE, REMEMBER ME?"

[brittle wedge]

address me

[crimson prairie]

how do I obtain the logbook for ||Solus heart||?

[jaunty furnace]

just like any other enemy

[crimson prairie]

so it's a chance drop

thanks

[jaunty furnace]

yeap

[crimson prairie]

is it same for that vulture at conduit canyon and false son?

[jaunty furnace]

only non-chance drop enemy log i can think of is solus wing

but im not a library so idk

[lavish jacinth]

as a library I can confirm that solus wing is the only enemy that doesn't have a random logbook drop

[ocean monolith]

It used to, but how it dies made it difficult to grab the logbook and live when it DID drop

[humble agate]

can access nodes also spawn on stage 4's?

or only on stage 3

[lavish jacinth]

only repurposed crater

[hoary sedge]

you can also get a virtual portal on sirens call by killing awu

[dapper skiff]

is it just me or am i smaller than usual?

opened the game then started a run, but i feel significantly smaller

[livid wedge]

Multishop mightve spawned on a higher node

The node map is fucky like that

[dapper skiff]

not sure about that, even the beetles are bigger than me

lol

[livid wedge]

just got into work so I cannot check myself

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lavish jacinth]

Beetles are about the size of a cow according the logbook, and huntress is pretty small

So that looks about right to me

[dapper skiff]

might just be seeing things then

used to playing bandit

[livid wedge]

Now if you want to be

short

then play drifter

[north granite]

The characters do have differing sizes, for a while False Son was too tall to get the legendary chest in abyssal depths

[long raven]

hey what are y'all thoughts on monsoon vs eclipse?

as in, which do you find more fun

[cunning gorge]

I enjoy monsoon more regularly but eclipse is really good for a challenge run every now and then

[mellow crystal]

eclipse is just monsoon but it slows the game down to me

and makes specific bosses unbearable because e7 is not a good modifier in practice

[rich bobcat]

monsoon easily i do not find eclipse enjoyable

[trim lynx]

i like monsoon

[livid wedge]

Rainstorm

[ocean monolith]

I enjoy Eclipse more because it’s more challenging

[vapid grail]

when I want to just relax more and have fun, monsoon, especially because of eclipse 5 and 7

[hoary sedge]

yeah eclipse is cool in theory but most of the modifiers are either more annoying than actually dangerous or obviously untested

[cunning gorge]

SCU spamming their shield every two seconds💔💔💔

[hoary sedge]

alloy hunter perma laser.....

and false son. just generally

he's already a kinda janky fight but e7 makes it waaaay worse imo

[ocean monolith]

Those 2 last examples are both Gearbox content and post-Eclipse, which both had opportunities to have a bit of playtesting on Eclipse that was either not done or not acknowledged

[pastel epoch]

I am an eclipse player and for false son I generally just hope to find enough mobility to survive the first phase. And no, I wouldn’t want to do the Race cheese strats.

[marble osprey]

Eclipse because I'm a masochist and have more fun when the game is hitting me in the face with a sack of bricks
More seriously I just find it's more enjoyable because I feel like I genuinely could lose and need to play well to win whereas monsoon just feels free and I don't really get a sense of achievement for winning a normal run at this point

[steel lance]

wonder if beetles can be milked, and if so if it's safe for human consumption

[cunning gorge]

I would've never wondered that in my whole life

[steel lance]

they said "size of a cow" so my brain made a connection to cows idk what to tell you

[slow dagger]

amazing things are happening in rorcord

[brazen briar]

Ummm longstanding soli + gilded coast late game = easiest soft lock? Can’t believe I did that

😭

[brazen briar]

:(

[hazy bolt]

can you hit weakspots with railgun without aiming ?

[lavish jacinth]

you can with her special

[cunning gorge]

What was the ModMail app called before AC came out? Cuz id assume it hasnt been called SPEX since 2020

same for the False Son app

[keen wedge]

"sir, we've found another. They'll be on your way in an hour's time."

[analog brook]

Does anyone have that handy guide for the minimal setup RG 1M damage achievement?

[gritty drift]

But for seeker’s achievement with 500,000% dmg ??

[lavish jacinth]

I don't really think it's possible to make a minimal setup for that one

Sojourn does more damage the longer you stay in it, and unlike the railgunner one it DOES add up the total amount of damage for hitting multiple enemies

But can massively extend how long you can stay in sojourn, and ofc stacking will help a lot. Another trick is to use kin+swarms to get a large horde of many as the teleporter boss, which will let you use as an extra multiplier

[signal hound]

could you just stack like 100 shaped glass?

oh wait but you'd die my bad

[lavish jacinth]

shaped glass only instakills you at 128 stacks

but 100 stacks is way overkill anyway

[signal hound]

yeah but you'd have no health for the ability

[lavish jacinth]

yeah that's the problem

[signal hound]

does shaped glass negative effect work on mithrix when he steals it btw?

[lavish jacinth]

but glass stacks exponentially so you don't need very many to get a ton of damage, and transcendence reduces sojourns' damage to 1, so you can still stay in it for quite a while

iirc can also block some damage

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[signal hound]

wht if
stack 65 safer spaces
and then get 127 shaped glasses 👍 :D

[signal hound]

ok so you can just one shot him if you have enough?

[lavish jacinth]

probably yeah

[signal hound]

does it work if you get a voidcrit?

[lavish jacinth]

no

the "999999" damage numbers are just cosmetic, afaik it just deals exactly enough damage to kill the enemy. So void crit would probably just reduce your damage if anything

[signal hound]

hmm ok good to know

[signal hound]

is sale star item count affected by luck?

[lavish jacinth]

iirc it's supposed to be, but it's bugged and currently isn't

[gritty drift]

How do you know everything about this game? 😂

[lavish jacinth]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

also 1000+ hours and the wiki, lol

[analog brook]

Honestly shout-out to you for doing god's work here, day in and day out you're always there 🫡

[lavish jacinth]

helping newbies is basically a hobby at this point lol

and I just enjoy learning extremely deep and semi-pointless game knowledge

[signal hound]

how many artifacts are there (-rebirth)

[strange canyon]

12 I think?

[lavish jacinth]

20 total

[strange canyon]

Fak not even close

[lavish jacinth]

wiki op

[strange canyon]

Cheating

I call hacks

[pastel epoch]

Wait can you get Devotion lemurians in a normal run by visiting the Reliquary? I forget

And keep them for the rest of the run

[signal hound]

does equipment have a minimum cooldown like abilities?

[ocean monolith]

Nope

If you stack enough Fuel Cells, they’ll recharge instantly

[analog brook]

Does clover effect artifact key drop rates?

[livid wedge]

Pretty sure no

They are not affected

[signal hound]

Why does the artifact reliquary sometimes randomly gain extra max health and heal a bit

[livid wedge]

It seems like there's an explanation on the wiki but it only makes sense for the chaos artifact

[signal hound]

im not doing chaos artifact though 😔

[dusky zealot]

The power of autism 💪

[dusky zealot]

That normally happens when the difficulty increases and enemies level up but time doesn't pass in the those stages so that is rlly strange.

[mossy ledge]

good evening !! if anyone would like to help me with a question yet again, it would be greatly appreciated. the whole proc coefficient thingy is a fascinating game mechanic and I’m trying to learn about it, so I’m making a list of the related items…

can someone confirm that bandolier is not affected by a hit’s proc coefficient in any way? only luck, like lens makers

[high forum]

well, it has its own 'proc' chance

[lavish jacinth]

on-kill effects are never affected by proc coeff

also, I'll save you some time https://riskofresources.com/proc

[high forum]

18% by default IIRC

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[high forum]

right though, it doesnt drop on hit, only on kill

[mossy ledge]

OH RIGHT I kind of… forgot it’s an on-kill item even though I made a list of those too. whoops! thank you so much guys XD

[high forum]

it would be affected by luck though!

[lavish jacinth]

the wiki also has all of this info, just make sure to use wiki.gg and not the fandom one

[mossy ledge]

the fandom site is infuriating with the ads 😭 thank you for this

[lavish jacinth]

it's also pretty much abandoned

[mossy ledge]

ahhh, outdated info huh?

[uncut jolt]

Anyone have tips on how to get the hermit crab achievement?

[high forum]

/

[lavish jacinth]

or , or any survivor you want since they naturally run away from you, it just helps to have a non-damaging knockback skill

[mossy ledge]

I’ve had the best luck with that whenever they spawn in Titanic Plains in a loop and I make them run off the cliff,,

[lavish jacinth]

post-loop plains is pretty much the only place you can do it

turning off SotS and SotV also helps with stage rng a bit, you won't get siphoned forest or shattered abodes

Ideally you go to the bazaar from stage 5 and get plains with a lunar seer

swarms also helps ofc, you just have to be extra careful not to kill them accidentally. Avoid stuff like tesla coil that does damage automatically

[uncut jolt]

Okay thank you so much 🙏

[pastel epoch]

Prismatic cube also helps I think?

Artifact of Command and sacrifice can help help with getting the achievement but aren’t necessary

[hazy bolt]

when someone leaves in a game like in three players for example and it's just 2 players after someone leaves, does the game scale down the enemies to 2 players or are they still gonna have the 3 player scaling

[woeful halo]

It will keep the 3 player scaling

But that also includes teleportor items

[mossy ledge]

good evening again!! today I am attempting this mysterious challenge of ”charge the teleporter with 10% health or less” with a dear friend of mine. we have discovered that the artifact glass does not count toward this challenge!! any recommendations? shaped glass? tonic debuff? thank you in advance

[lavish jacinth]

get the teleporter to 99%, jump off a cliff to get down to 1hp, then run back and finish it before your health regenerates

[mossy ledge]

THAT WORKS?? LMAOOO THANK YOUUU

[livid wedge]

Yeah. Pretty sure fodder enemies stop spawning once the teleporter hits 99% and pauses if the boss is still alive. You could wait the timer, walk outside the zone, kill the boss, jump off a cliff and come back

[marble osprey]

Personally I think I just used rex and spammed the self-damage secondary when it was getting close

You can't kill yourself with it so as long as you keep pressing it you'll be under 10% constantly (unless something else kills you ofc)

[rancid arch]

im having such a difficult time doing eclipse 8 with engineer, i just cant win. i try to go for proc items as ive heard its good with turrets but im so fragile i just keep randomly dying am i doing something wrong 😭

[marble osprey]

Would have to look at your runs to know for sure but it sounds like you're either not getting enough movement speed to dodge most attacks, or not enough damage reduction so that random minor attacks like lemurian fireballs are dealing permadamage

[stone forum]

Did they say their going to fix the demons and the crabs achievement on switch or no

I don't remember

[rancid arch]

like this was my last run, i had executive card in my pocket too. a random jellyfish suicide bombed me and i instantly lost 700 health. it wasnt even an elite

[marble osprey]

Yeah so it looks like a bit of both there
Your only movement speed items are energy drink and mocha, which seems way too low for.. i assume stage 4 from those items? You need to be able to dodge incoming attacks, and engi especially needs movement speed items since he has no innate mobility
As for damage reduction, you have an opal and warped echo, which are pretty good, but not quite enough on their own unless you're confident you won't be hit more than once in a span of ten seconds or so. Which is a more realistic playstyle for someone like huntress, engi probably can't do that, if he's getting hit once he's probably getting hit again soon after. Try getting more things like tougher times, kinetic dampener, and rose buckler
Also, definitely use scrappers more. Even one roll of pennies is useless past the first stage, you definitely don't need to have five. Of the items there, I'd probably scrap roll of pennies, fireworks, warbanner, and bison steak at the very least, which would give you 10 white scrap to use towards better items in printers of the green soups in the bazaar

[rancid arch]

your guess is correct i died on sirens call

i picked up literally everything on the way so this was what i got sadly, and i didnt find any good printers. and about scrapping, i found my first scrapper at stage 4 and i was begginning to scrap my shit items but i died while running around waiting for the scrapper to work

one thing that could count as a mistake is that i had really dogshit greens at stage 3 (like 2 leeching seeds and other stuff) so i picked up shattered justice on the bazaar but it took my rose buckler. if i havent done that i could have probably survived

i guess it was slightly unlucky that i died that way

[lavish jacinth]

honestly not a terrible play depending on how bad the other greens were

[rancid arch]

one of them was war horn and the other was box of dynamite, i dont remember the last one

[lavish jacinth]

I'd say that was probably worth the gamble, shustice does synergize with shatterspleen so it'd be a pretty solid boost to your dps

turret placement and management is also a huge factor with engie, especially on e8 where they can't healtank with bungus

When I'm running around exploring the map, what I usually do is only place one turret at a time, and always try to put it on high ground so it can cover me, and so it's harder for ground enemies to reach. I keep the other one off cooldown in case I get in a bad spot and need it for damage

in longer fights I'll put them both down in a good spot and try to circlestrafe around the outer edge of a fight while tossing in spider mines and missiles

oh and if you're feeling cheesy, it's extremely easy to clip turrets into walls. All you have to do is find a spot with slightly weird geometry, like a rock or something, and stick the turret into it

[rancid arch]

wait really?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[rancid arch]

damn its real

[lavish jacinth]

yup

they'll still take damage from AoEs sometimes but they're mostly untouchable apart from that

[rancid arch]

having an alright run rn ngl

maybe this is the one

[mossy ledge]

status update: we gottem 👍

[rancid arch]

i genuinely hate engineer

[rancid arch]

i might just hate characters without movement abilities man

i just be dying and all

mithrix killed me with 10kish hp left on 3rd phase because i got oneshotted in the big spinny attack

fucking hell mate

[mellow crystal]

quick tip, pizza is a lot slower at close range because of how rotation works

if your main issue is with the speed and not your own movement then i recommend staying close to him when he does it

[lavish jacinth]

and if you didn't know, he won't use spinny until he's under 75%hp, and he always alternates between big spinny and the shockwave attack, so you can sorta predict it

[mellow crystal]

more specifically every time he uses sky slam, it's replaced by pizza which starts on an 8-second cooldown

then once he finishes using pizza it turns back into sky slam

[fringe canopy]

Anyone know why I can’t play any of the dlcs while I’m offline on Xbox ? I have access online

[lavish jacinth]

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[forest depot]

zheen7742 was banned.

[mellow crystal]

funny screenshot

[high sedge]

goob i'm gonna kill you

[restive grail]

Does anyone know if there will be an update allowing Xbox and PC to play together? If so when?

[high sedge]

pretty sure it's never happening

gearbox might change their minds down the line but don't count on crossplay

[mellow crystal]

yeah the multiplayer networking code is already pretty fucked afaik

[restive grail]

Dang that sucks me and my friends were hoping to play together soon

[high sedge]

does the microsoft store version have crossplay with the xbox copy

is there even a microsoft store version

[mellow crystal]

pretty sure there isn't

just steam and epic games

[ocean monolith]

AAAAAH DESYNC PIZZA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I KILL YOU I KILL YOU AAAAAH

[high sedge]

isn't it so cool that hopoo decided that the attack that's strictly a reaction check needed to be on the netcode and not clientside

[marble osprey]

PizzaClientLagFix mod by Goorakh

[ocean monolith]

It's not needed anymore cause it got patched

But dear god you can smell the SotS in that video

[mellow crystal]

pre rework fs....

[high sedge]

it's still a nice mod to have because pizza being clientside is more sensibl

[ocean monolith]

Also the buff icon for Transmitter

[ocean monolith]

Oh wait I misread the mod name

Mistook it for the desync fix

[marble osprey]

doesnt even have all of goorakh's mods memorized
smhing my head so hard rn

[ocean monolith]

It's not that I didn't have it memorized, I just saw "Pizza" and filled the rest in

[outer kite]

Is there any way to inspect items when i grab aurelionite fragment ? cant find any info anywhere , and beside trying to remember what does each item ( which seems like i cant efficiently do when i do big pauses) seems like theres nothing else .. Even any mods maybe ?

[marble osprey]

LookingGlass might do it, that's the go-to for having more information

I think it does but can't guarantee off the top of my head

[outer kite]

thanks a lot mate will try this out 🙂

[crimson prairie]

How do I disable Brain stalks eyesore purple screen filter effect? mod or otherwise
I have screen distortion off and it still occurs

[ocean monolith]

SotS AV Effects

[crimson prairie]

very thanks

[vivid pecan]

For the Operator Not So Different challenge, can you not touch the ground once you activate the teleporter at all or is it just after the Alloy Hunter spawns?

Twice now I've killed it in the air for sure with Tricorn but haven't gotten the unlock

[lavish jacinth]

you can't touch the ground at all once you start the teleporter

[vivid pecan]

Ah, that'll be why. Much thanks

Save mod coming in clutch here

[ocean monolith]

You also have to hit it once before shooting it

[jaunty furnace]

also note that grind rails count as ground for some reason

[weary talon]

What’s the best drifter load outb

[marble osprey]

Default for secondary and utility, alternate for special

[harsh cobalt]

what monster log books do i need? its only these 3 and idk what they are

[heavy gorge]

Cleanup tornado slam tinker 😎

[jaunty furnace]

alloy hunter, solus wing, solus heart

solus heart is bugged to appear as locked until you get the log

[harsh cobalt]

ah ok

ty

[normal oriole]

What artifact disables printers?

[jaunty furnace]

command

i assume

[normal oriole]

Damn

Thought it was sacrifice

[jaunty furnace]

printers are useless when you already choose every single item

printers make sense in sacrifice cause stuff is still random

[signal hound]

does artifact of glass reduce the amount of shaped glasses you can have before death?

[livid wedge]

Presumably

It would act as 3 shaped glass in terms of health reduction

[steel lance]

using the rails, touching an airborne enemy and using volcanic egg all count as touching the ground too

milky chrysalis is fine tho

[signal hound]

can you get item drops from (artifact)soul wisps with (artifact)sacrifice?

[dusky zealot]

IIRC, no

Swarms is a yes for drops from the extra spawns but soul is a no

Tho I'm pretty sure swarms also has a nerfed drop rate with sacrifice. I forgor

[signal hound]

alright thanks

[dusky zealot]

The drops add up fast over time because the chance is determined by the type of enemy so by mid to late game you'll get tons of items

Sacrifice works weird lol

[signal hound]

do the rarities scale with enemy type? or only drop chances

[dusky zealot]

Just drop chance as far as I know

Rarity is always the same

[signal hound]

do you happen to know the legendary drop chance?

[dusky zealot]

0.9%

However; predetermined chests like the stage 4 legendary chests with guaranteed red items do spawn still even with sacrifice

So getting a sale star isn't a waste or nothin

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifacts#Sacrifice
I'd recommend reading here for any details if you'd like

Since it has specific drop rates for enemies on there

[signal hound]

alright thanks bro

hmm one more question lol
does sale star affect rusty lockboxes?

[ocean monolith]

Yes

But not Encrusted lockboxes

[signal hound]

how about the shipping request form thingy

[ocean monolith]

No

Those work with Card

[signal hound]

cool thx

[signal hound]

do drones i lose in one level respawn in the next as broken drones? or am i imagining things

[jaunty furnace]

no

[signal hound]

hmm ok rip
if one falls off the map after dying is that just it then?

[jaunty furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-kirby-drop-falling-deep-gif-17081698

[woeful halo]

No

Unless you have weak knees artifact and you fall too far

[signal hound]

wha

[woeful halo]

If you fall off the map it will teleport you and make you take fall damage

[lavish jacinth]

they're talking about drones

[signal hound]

yeah
if my drone dies and falls off the edge of the map
do i lose it

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[signal hound]

😔 rip ok

[woeful halo]

…how does a drone fall of the map?

[signal hound]

when it dies

it falls
and then it lands in the endless abyss of the bottom of a floorless map

do enemies still spawn from the halyconite (excuse my spelling) shrine after ive completed teleporter event?

[woeful halo]

Yeah the stone golems and halcyonite still spawn

[flat adder]

How is dmg calculated? Like your base attacks are %s and so are items. For stuff like atg and bands is it % of the attack that proced them or is it just a way of displaying dmg as if it's just a % if a hidden dmg stat tied to your lvl?

Bc I've heard that bands are multiplied by the dmg that causes it but if that's the case what is m1 multiplied by?

Looking at it again I'm seeing base dmg and total dmg, what's the difference?

[jaunty furnace]

characters have a number of base damage

character abilities deal a % amount of base damage

base damage is increased with levels and some items

[trim lynx]

TOTAL damage is multiplied off the damage that caused it, as is the case with bands and atg

[jaunty furnace]

items like and multiply your damage

[flat adder]

What is base dmg a % of? Character dmg?

[lavish jacinth]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Damage#'Base'_vs._'Total'_Damage

[trim lynx]

so a level 1 huntress has 12 base damage

strafe does 150% damage, so 12 × 1.5 = 18 per arrow

the arrow hits the enemy and does 18 damage. if this hit procs an to fire, the missile will deal 18 × 3 = 54 damage, as the 'TOTAL' damage means it multiplies off what procced it

[flat adder]

Does items like gasoline also take character base dmg or it it just lvl and a different base dmg that's the same for everyone

[lavish jacinth]

...btw if anyone feels like editing the wiki, I feel like this line should probably be changed to "Examples of items" instead of just "The items", there are more multipliers than just those four

[trim lynx]

if an item doesnt specify TOTAL damage, it just uses survivor damage

[lavish jacinth]

if an item says it deals base damage, then it's always that specific characters' base damage

[trim lynx]

gasoline uses base damage, so it just uses the player base damage

base damage stat is mostly increased thru levelling, and is generally 12 (+2.4 per level up)

[flat adder]

I'm trying to do mercenary always above 100% in the trials, it's hell. I needed to know specifically what I should be getting, any tips?

[lavish jacinth]

look for cabbage's guides in #prismatic-trials

is great if you can get one, taking damage to barrier won't fail the challenge. And sometimes it's best to just wait for an easier seed, anything with artifact of glass is usually doable

[mossy ledge]

I return with yet another question heh! just to confirm something this time. friend says they’re finally up for unlocking that 20 stages with no lunar items challenge for Commando, but they’re anxious that using void items would fail it. I have been reassuring them that those do not count as lunars! they do NOT fail the challenge, right?

[long raven]

Yeah I got lucky that the day I tried it I got artifact of glass, it took me aorund 30ish minutes to complete it, lot's of deaths but it's fine

[jaunty furnace]

no

[long raven]

also quick question for the crab achievement, I was thinking of going loader in drizzle and just rushing stage 5 with artifact of swarms, is there a better way?

[mossy ledge]

thank you 👍

[jaunty furnace]

rex green shift/railgunner mines

[mossy ledge]

I mean, someone did suggest that Loader is fine if you get the cube that moves enemies around, if you are more comfortable playing her

it’s so cute we have little icons for items on this server

[humble agate]

Why are captains nukes disabled at the solus's heart fight

[north granite]

Hidden realm

They wanted to be cheeky and make it so hidden realms disable both nuke and drops

[humble agate]

Okay that makes a lot of sense

[humble agate]

But wait at the computational exchange there aren't disabled

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1086535274877694002/1267524427768397998/hog.gif

[north granite]

Probably gearbox jank if I were to bet

[signal hound]

hey so do any vultures respawn on the 2nd alloyed collective stage?
or am i gonna have to leave the drone 😔

[lavish jacinth]

they do eventually

[signal hound]

alright time to play the waiting game ig 😭
thanks

[lavish jacinth]

taking the prison matrixes spawns more of them, if you haven't done that yet

[signal hound]

i have unfortunately

[lavish jacinth]

rip

[lavish jacinth]

(it's also possible I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I remember them respawning)

[signal hound]

its been 20 minutes 😔

[brazen briar]

I wish palm blast multihit req was just 2 I’d actually use it over meditate lul

[livid wedge]

I don't think clearing the vultures out in solutional haunt has ever given insufficient funds to buy the prison chests and the tc280

However, something odd happened with gold distribution during my last coop runs through that stage

[signal hound]

literally did for me 😔

it could be like
some of the artifact combination effects?

do i lose all these drones cuz no money in this area bruh 💀

[livid wedge]

Yup

[bitter steeple]

What is worth crafting

[livid wedge]

That somewhat depends on your survivor but you can't go wrong with normal good items like

[bitter steeple]

Is there a list for each survivor

[lavish jacinth]

It'll just be the same sorts of items you would want to go for on that survivor

And the meal items are all pretty good

[livid wedge]

And how much you have of crafting items

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[livid wedge]

Like, I'm gonna break my laser scope down into glasses if I haven't gotten any by that point

But obviously not if I'm full up

[bitter steeple]

Not exactly sure what most of those are

Type of person to just pick everything up

Say for lunars

[high forum]

the base gameplay doesn't really lend itself super well to trying to be super specific about what items you pick up

if you don't know most of the items/what they do, you don't really need to worry about 'optimizing' your build

[lavish jacinth]

as a general rule, total damage procs and stat multipliers are pretty much always good items to go for

[bitter steeple]

I’m trying to do monsoon so I do need to optimize a lil

[livid wedge]

General rule is Damage, then Movement, then Health

In terms of item priority. Items that are pure utility are on a survivor by survivor basis

[lavish jacinth]

I wouldn't really say utility is survivor specific, it's usually more to do with what stage of a run you're at

[livid wedge]

And that

[lavish jacinth]

like, a sale star or shipping form is gonna have higher value if you get it on stage 1 than on stage 5 (assuming you plan to end at stage 6)

[livid wedge]

Like, if I'm playing engi, I prioritize utility equipment since my turrets don't inherit them normally

[lavish jacinth]

and items that give you gold also fall off pretty hard

[bitter steeple]

I’m assuming the wiki or a video has a list of items you should look for per survivor

[lavish jacinth]

not really, the list tends to be pretty similar for a lot of survivors. buildcrafting in ror2 doesn't get very specific

[livid wedge]

I wouldn't know. It's better to learn the items and survivors. Preferred items for each are kind of obvious

[lavish jacinth]

items are mostly designed around the assumption that you're getting a bunch of random stuff, so the best build is always "a bit of everything".
Some survivors do lean towards one thing or another but that's usually fairly intuitive, like survivors with a high proc rate do especially well with on-hit effects, or heavy hitters wanting big consistent damage multipliers

[livid wedge]

With maybe a couple niche interactions

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[livid wedge]

Like being nerfed on railgunner

Because hopoo

[mellow crystal]

A lot of things tend to be decently self explanatory too
Item which multiplies the damage of a big hit and has a cooldown is good on bursty survivors
Item which has a chance to apply a stacking DoT is good on faster firing survivors

[lavish jacinth]

and with the exception of engineer, who has a bunch of extra stuff he can work really well with on top of the usual good items

https://riskofresources.com/guides some stuff here might be useful

[mellow crystal]

And also rex who sort of trades item viability

[livid wedge]

Yeah, namely bungus because they don't just not move, they are immovable so the bungus field never turns off do to being moved

[mellow crystal]

There are a lot more items that are bad/mid on him but also a lot of bad/mid items that are good on him

[lavish jacinth]

bungus, consumables, stuff that adds an effect to your character like tesla coil or ego, etc.

[rare mesa]

hi

[night totem]

ello

btw uhhhh i was going to ask

how much will all 4 dlcs be when this one comes out i wanna buy them

[mossy ledge]

heyy anyone here rn? doing the 20 stages completion thingy for an item and Commando’s challenge and it does say stage 20 on the upper right corner and we just beat the teleporter boss, but the challenge completion thingy is not popping up… does it pop up after we go to the next level?

we would play it safe by just looping again but the game is already close to crashing honestly

[marble osprey]

i think you have to leave the stage to count it as beaten yeah

[mossy ledge]

thank you 🙏

[rancid arch]

should i gamble for scorpion

playing engi eclipse 8

[marble osprey]

imo nah
two bands with shurikens is hella good damage already and just losing the shurikens would make the bands useless as well so you could effectively lose 7 greens

and your other greens are pretty decent too

[rancid arch]

i kinda waited like 2 mins and made the decision to not do it, and the run is going pretty well so im glad

[ocean monolith]

$60 combined

Which is more than double the game's price

[bitter steeple]

How do I do Solus on monsoon?

[marble osprey]

What do you mean by that

[bitter steeple]

Like most effective way to beat SW

[marble osprey]

Uh try to get the weak points all low before you break any of them because the later phases are harder than the earlier ones so it's nice to be able to skip them, ideally break all the weak points at the same time
Symbiotic scorpion and networked suffering are particularly good
On the last phase you can either break all the cooling vents and let it burn itself for extra damage while running between the cooling zones, or break the heating vents to stop the burn attack
Besides that uh shoot it until it dies + don't get hit

[ocean monolith]

If you can keep bleed up then you can bleed it to death and just never kill a weakpoint

[heavy gorge]

You can also smash the three coolant towers during the last phase. SW will burn to death. RIP your drones though

[hearty raven]

how much of a sin is it to turn my self into an invincible missle launcher?

[heavy gorge]

It’s a PvE game that doesn’t take itself seriously

It is impossible to sin

[hearty raven]

neat bc i think thats my new favorite strat lol

[thorn garden]

any clue when the new dlc dropping?

[marble osprey]

No release date or window has been announced
Based on the previous distance between announcement and release, we can guess it'll be six months or so

[thorn garden]

thankyou math guy, good math

[vivid pecan]

For Drifter In the Bag, does it have to be the last boss you kill with the Mountain shrine?

[marble osprey]

I don't believe so, but you do need to have activated the challenge of the mountain

[vivid pecan]

I'm having a hard time telling, but I'm pretty sure I've gotten last hits a couple times. May need to restart with prestige so I can just focus on it without having so many AOE items on me

[past egret]

Does anyone have a fast and easy way to chase the hermit crabs off the map for the achievement?

[vivid pecan]

If you have Drifter, I wonder if reposses/toss works

[past egret]

Hmm thats a good one, I dont have Drifter yet but I was planning on getting AC soon

I could look that up, maybe theres an anwer on google

It says that as long as the fall kills the crabs its good

Loader also works

[vivid pecan]

Transport drones might also work then

[past egret]

Probably does

Thats also with AC right?

[vivid pecan]

Looks like it yeah

[past egret]

Okay, thanks! This was really helpful

[livid wedge]

Primordial Cube equipment and a good amount of fuel cells

Drags them right off the map with no risk of accidentally killing them

[past egret]

That's a good one, don't know why I've never thought of that

Thanks!

[frigid flume]

Guys what mods should i get? I saw in a video that when he stood near tp it showed what he was missing? looking for QoL like this. Proper save is the only thing on my list rn

[lavish jacinth]

That was probably StageRecap

#ror2-modding could probably recommend a few, although one that's always worth getting is DebugToolkit

[frigid flume]

Oh, thanks for the name! Other suggestions?

[frigid flume]

Ok will certainly check it out

[grand sluice]

hi, new player here. I'm an achievement hunter and I'm curious about the character-specific missions: can I get the as X class, complete the event on prime meridian and beat the game on monsoon achievements in one run?

[lavish jacinth]

yep, all you have to do for the mastery achievements is win a run on monsoon. Doesn't matter which ending you get

[grand sluice]

good to know. appreciated

[steel lance]

if you have the third dlc, you can also get "reject the offering of the collective" in the same run by going there immediately after prime meridian (an additional portal spawns a few seconds after interacting with the shrine on prime meridian), but accepting the offering ends your run prematurely so survivors with an accept skin need two runs at minimum

[grand sluice]

thanks for letting me know! I have just bought the three dlcs. should I tackle them one by one if there happens to be too much content at once? I don't want to get overwhelmed

[steel lance]

that's absolutely something you can do! i'd keep them all enabled so you have access to the new items, stages and enemies they add (and also because some survivors break when their respective dlc is disabled), but you don't have to engage with the alternate paths they provide if you don't want to - survivors of the void has its ending path tucked away and hidden, and the other two are both things you have to actively opt into mid-run

obviously though it's up to you, and to get those ending-specific skins you have to have the dlc that unlocks that ending enabled

[grand sluice]

gotchu, I'm enabling all of them. much appreciated ^ ^

[crimson prairie]

does the seed of life need to be in primary slot to activate when you die when used with functional coupler

[past egret]

Yes it does

It wont activate if you dont

That counts for every passive equipment

[crimson prairie]

okie thanks

[night totem]

ty

[versed spire]

can anyone help me with void fiend unlocking him please

[signal rose]

Heya, just wondering, does the game currently support PS4/PS5 crossplay?

I found this article https://support.2k.com/hc/en-us/articles/48628339700371-Risk-of-Rain-2-The-Future-of-Risk-of-Rain-2-on-Gen-8-Consoles from a few months ago saying it would eventually be dropped. Has that happened yet? Thanks. Me and friends looking to play it, not sure if we all need to get PS4 version.

It seems the PS4/5 crossplay drops on the next update? Do we know when that'll be?

[cunning gorge]

If you're trying to unlock him via Voidling I would suggest playing Command artifact so you get the strongest build you can because he is pretty hard your first time around. If you're trying to do 50 simulacrum stages then just play regularly and whatnot idk I don't play simulacrum

[versed spire]

i am very new to the game so thanks for the tip when u say command artifact do u mean just the charachetr command

?or am i misunderstanding

[cunning gorge]

Do you mean Metamorphosis? That's the command that changed your character every stage

Here let me get the wiki real quick

https://riskofrain2.fandom.com/wiki/Artifacts

This will tell you how to unlock them and their codes. You're going to get Command using this code

[lavish jacinth]

Artifacts are unlockable game modifiers

[lavish jacinth]

don't use the fandom wiki btw, we've switched over to wiki.gg

[lavish jacinth]

Most likely with the next DLC, which will probably be sometime in early Q4 this year based on previous DLC launches. We haven't gotten an exact release window yet though

[versed spire]

ahhh okay

[versed spire]

thank u

[signal rose]

Thanks.

Also, we'll all be playing for the first time tonight. Is there a mandatory tutorial for the game? Can we do that together?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, there's technically a tutorial but it kinda sucks, it basically just highlights stuff that you would've seen anyway. The game is pretty easy to figure out though.
I do highly recommend turning on the "enable inspect" option in settings though, under the umbrella settings tab. It'll let you see what stuff does before you use it and show descriptions for items that you've had before

that tab also has some other useful QoL stuff

[steel lance]

the gameplay loop is literally just ||kill stuff, open chests, get items, find teleporter, kill boss, repeat|| (spoilered in case you want to go in blind), at its core it's a very simple game so the closest thing to a tutorial is just a few pieces of text that pop up during your first run highlighting some very straightforward game mechanics like sprinting

[signal rose]

Gotcha, my two friends aren't really into action roguelikes (I'm decently familiar), so I just wasn't sure if there was much to learn. Here's hoping we have a blast and thanks for the answers guys

[versed spire]

im always looking for people to play with add me if u need sum!

[lavish jacinth]

we have lfg channels btw, if you hadn't seen them. #lfg-pc-ror2 or whatever platform you're on

[steel lance]

hope you guys have a great time! i'm sure they'll pick things up pretty quickly

[versed spire]

thank u

[bitter steeple]

What’s better, doing Conduit Canyon or going straight to Haunt

[steel lance]

down to preference imo

[lavish jacinth]

conduit is more reliable, you always get an access node stage 3, but you can only get a portal on siren's call or repurposed crater

but conduit's loot is basically the same as the other stage 4s, legendary chest included

[steel lance]

oh yea true going for a different stage 4 isn't a guarantee you'll get to haunt

if you get abyssal depths or sundered grove you won't be able to

[signal rose]

Could I also get an opinion on the matter of the easy mode?

I saw in a video that it's not recommended because it doesn't teach you a lot (basically that it's too easy), but it seems like a decent idea to beat it as a "warm-up"

To learn the mechanics and whatnot

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's about accurate

[steel lance]

tbh monsoon (hard mode) is a decent challenge, i'd recommend rainstorm (normal mode) as a beginner - if you're finding it too hard there's no shame in moving to drizzle (easy) if you need to

[lavish jacinth]

Drizzle does make the game very easy, and it can lead to some bad habits like facetanking hits that you really ought to be dodging. But it's if you just want to learn some of the basics and not have to worry about difficulty

btw if you're looking for good guides https://riskofresources.com/guides

the wiki is also a good resource, specifically wiki.gg (not fandom)

[steel lance]

drizzle is like training wheels - if you rarely play games it'll make the experience easier and more accessible but if you're at all familiar with games in general then you really won't need it

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[cunning gorge]

Mb thanks for letting me know

[signal rose]

Thanks! And I love that name btw, "risk of resources" lol

Glad to see more communities step away from fandom, sadly Google SEO still makes it dominant for some

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, wiki.gg has been slowly climbing though

it used to be like halfway down the page if you searched for the ror2 wiki

[marble osprey]

Should keep climbing too bc all the wiki contributors have stopped updating the fandom one so it doesn't have pages for anything from alloyed collective, so if you search for something from that dlc you'll only get the wiki.gg one

[ocean monolith]

Going straight to Haunt is better on Eclipse because of that BITCH Alloy Hunter and her perma laser bs

[bitter steeple]

Monsoon tho?

[ocean monolith]

That’s up to preference

Monsoon doesn’t have cooldown-related bugs that Eclipse has (Thanks Gearbox and a little bit of Hopoo)

My fingers are so fucking big dude

[flat adder]

Do dmg buffs multiply off each other and does getting the same item get progressively worse than picking up a different item? So if I have a watch and focus crystal both giving +20% dmg and I do 100 dmg does it do 140 or 144?

[lavish jacinth]

Yes and yes. Combining multiple different buffs is nearly always better than just stacking one thing.

That goes for total damage procs too

[pastel epoch]

So noxious thorn bleed isn’t rolled separate from tri tip bleed? Meaning 1 thorn + 9 tritips is max bleed for a 1.0 proc coeff survivor?

I assume that also means thorn’s bleed duration is effected by proc coeff, ie a 0.5 proc coeff only gives 1.5 seconds of bleed?

[pastel epoch]

does rex's terrible endlag on harvest get shortened by attack speed?

[ocean monolith]

Don’t know cause I don’t use bad abilities

🗣️

[mellow crystal]

yeah this is the only answer you'll get /srs

[lavish jacinth]

It probably should but yeah I don't fucking know lmao

I've used harvest maybe like twice ever

[sturdy crypt]

What's the best dlc?

[lavish jacinth]

If you don't have it already, get sotv first

Then get AC

[sturdy crypt]

Ight

[rancid arch]

does transendence work well with engi and his turrets

[jaunty furnace]

get sotv first

[lavish jacinth]

it's fine for engie himself, but it requires not getting hit which turrets are kinda bad at

[rancid arch]

i think ive mentioned this a few times here but i genuinely suck at engi and im trying to find a way to cheese e8 at this point 😭

[sturdy crypt]

Okay

[rancid arch]

ive had dozens of runs where ive gotten too close yet it wasnt enough. and i dont even think im bad at the game, i just cant play engi for some reason

[ocean monolith]

That's the fun thing

Engi doesn't need to be played if you do things right

[bitter steeple]

Can you get mastery skins on metamorphosis?

[lavish jacinth]

yes, although you'll get the skin for whatever character you're playing when the run ends, not the one you started with

[bitter steeple]

OK, I was just asking because I prefer playing metamorphosis

[copper forge]

Is crossplay ever possible for gearbox to add?

[mellow crystal]

not worth the effort
afaik the networking code is fucked and would require another code revamp to make crossplay even feasible

[icy aurora]

is there a way to get high momentum on loader to hit mithrix?

I miss punch a whole lot of time now

[echo lion]

the moment whole and the heretic don't have achievement liked to them?

[umbral pagoda]

Can the artifact of kin spawn elder Lemurians on the first stage?

[worldly olive]

AMW and Heretic don't have any achievements, yeah

[vivid pecan]

Are there any recommended items for a solo Monsoon run on Drifter? Struggling with this one

[analog brook]

I dont think itd require another code revamp if the entire game to work, they said its possible

[trim lynx]

its just because each platform atm has its own way to do it

it wasnt designed with it in mind

[gritty drift]

Too 😔

[marble osprey]

Drifter can work pretty well with most items, but my biggest recommendation is to be aggressive with scrapping green items
Each one gives the health regen of a cautious slug, but without the requirement of not getting hit. It's pretty easy to get to extremely high levels of health regen by just holding onto a good chunk of green scrap

It makes her super tanky, you pretty much won't die unless you get hit with multiple high-damage hits simultaneously, and stuff like opals, warped echos, tougher times/safer spaces can all make it so even that might not be enough

[brazen briar]

What drifter skills yall roll with? I’d stick with default special if like the animation increased with attack speed or smth, but otherwise I like random bs go over junk cube and repossess def gets me more junk over cyclone

[tender temple]

112

[brazen briar]

Real

Wish cyclone matched repossess’s type of movement where it just insta boosts you in direction you’re looking instead of weird startup then just grounded

Still figuring out how to make use of tinker tho I don’t get it 100%

[quartz yacht]

guysthe solus wing landed on my head and now im inside it, stuck. my friend is a drone so he can't help me, anyway to get unstuck?

[lament veldt]

I wouldn't count on it

[quartz yacht]

wut dat mean

[lament veldt]

Probably not

[quartz yacht]

anyway figured it out lol you can unstuck if you have the pause settings on. just pause, quit to menu and be re invited. The issue now is since we're in the solus wing map, the tunnel to the boss room is blocked off so i suppose to this run is doomed lol

nvm figured that out too, boss is dead so i just fell through the water in solutional haunt and spawned in the boss room :V

[trim lynx]

X211

i just find it most fun

[brazen briar]

You like junk cube over random bs go? Lul

I’ve tried it it’s just a bit mechanically heavy for one move for me

[ocean monolith]

Both Secondaries are viable

[brazen briar]

True :3

For any run that ends up being longer I rly enjoy getting lotsa stacks of random bs go and just spamming it on smth

[gritty drift]

What items are best for mercenary?

[cunning gorge]

In my opinion at least there's probably more in depth builds

[heavy gorge]

I think the biggest allure of cube is how it is consistent. You know exactly what you’ll get each time. Cleanup theoretically could keep giving you mediocre projectiles.

Cleanup still better

[lavish jacinth]

merc is a proc survivor, so getting lots of on-hit effects is really good

and ofc he does well with items that benefit from playing at close range like focus crystal

attack speed is arguably bad on him though, even if you aren't doing the m1 extension combo it still has negative interactions with his secondaries and overall isn't a huge dps increase compared to just getting more procs or multipliers

[gritty drift]

thanks

[ocean monolith]

Kinda depends on which Special you’re running

[gritty drift]

1 2 2

[ocean monolith]

Attack Speed is good on Eviscerate, but dw about it if you’re running Slicing Winds

[brazen briar]

Fair

[ebon sierra]

When will this game actually give me beetles

[ebon sierra]

Question

If a gilded Lemurian from Devotion had fuel cells would it use those charges (and the cd reduction)?

[hoary sedge]

it seems like it should but I'm not sure bc the player and enemy gilded spike attacks have different cooldowns (25 and 12 seconds respectively)

honestly maybe worth testing and adding to the wiki ngl

[ebon sierra]

My guess is that maybe it works since I saw it work with enemies when they had gesture of the drowned

[full apex]

I havent been in the code for gilded elites much, but normally enemies dont have a proper equipment slot and therefore wont use equipment, like turrets. Most elite aspects are passive effects

Idk if that was changed for gilded enemies and they all have proper equipment slots now, or the aspect behaves differently on non player entities

gg doesnt say anything special, fandom states that equipment drones behave like enemies but also can use the active, which lightly implies enemies dont normally, but I would have to test it to be sure

[ebon sierra]

You're not gonna test it with mods? Fine, I'll do it myself

[full apex]

I could, just dont feel like it right now

You can try by spawning as an enemy yourself

The equipment slot component isnt tied to the key, so like when playing as a turret normally you cant activate equipment yourself even

[ebon sierra]

It doesn't work :(. unless gesture

[full apex]

You mean like they wont cast, but if they have gesture it casts?

That would imply they could but the ai just doesnt

Which is interesting

[pastel epoch]

Who, besides Acrid, is not a proc character?

[ebon sierra]

If Grandparent was coded to walk, would it walk like a dog or human?

[lavish jacinth]

mainly heavy hitters like loader and railgunner that have fairly low proc rates, but total damage procs are good on everyone

they just have a little more value on survivors that can proc them frequently

[full apex]

Honestly, fast basics with aoe + epidemic make acrid pretty solid at procs too if you arent relying only on poison. Though not necessarily consistent enough for bleed since melee occasionally forces repositions

Proc chains are kinda just silly strong, so those are good on slow hitters too since proccing an atg on a big hit makes a big atg, but its less consistent and more prone to overkilling stuff so usually the synergy with high rof high pps chars is better. Non-total procs are more reliant on rof

[austere dawn]

can bands crit?

[lavish jacinth]

yes, procs inherit crit from the attack that procced them (except which still uses random crit chance for some reason)

[austere dawn]

okay ty

[full apex]

Me when I copy an existing component and dont change it to match the normal structure

( )

[vivid pecan]

Do temporary items like Infusions still give you the benefit once the item timer has expired?

[mellow crystal]

as long as you still have at least one stack of infusion yes

if not then you'll lose the hp but regain it the next time you get an infusion

[vivid pecan]

So grabbing one perma then stacking temp infusions isn't the worst play...

Trying to get through Monsoon on Drifter and figuring out which temp items are worth chasing

[mellow crystal]

you're gonna feel so much relief when you try tinker for the first time
all that regen for free

[vivid pecan]

Then again my current strat of Telsa Coil/Gasoline/Little Disciple means I don't really do anything anyway lol. I also usually run with Command artifact so that may be part of it

I do wish attacks like that gave Junk, it makes it really hard to actually interact with their mechanic when everything just dies

[grizzled drum]

I have a question
If two people are playing acrid, and they both spit at the same enemy, would poison apply twice cause there's two, or will it only apply once?

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't stack, so it would only apply once, with the most recent stack taking priority afaik. If you have multiple Acrids in multiplayer, there's no real point in having more than one of them use poison

[grizzled drum]

ok thanks

[brazen briar]

What should I tinker usually I’ve been having a hard time figuring out which items are better turnin into scrap like that

[mellow crystal]

any item that you just consider bad is the obvious pick
from there you kinda just have to choose for yourself

is this white item better than 7% movespeed

[brazen briar]

Real

[mellow crystal]

is this green better than 3hp/s regen

usually no

but if i had to make a quick reference list i'd probably say like

[brazen briar]

Usually no but nice to have at least a couple green scraps

Killing things with repossess primary is best junk method rightttt

[short bolt]

I’m tryna 100% the logbook and I still have some enemies to find but ion know some like the circle one and some other ones I havnt even killed yet somehow even though I’ve played the game for a while now any one tryna help I get what some of them are .

[mellow crystal]

are pretty much always tinkerable, stun nade and chrono especially because m1 stuns
are worth the trade generally
are easy scraps if you havent and dont intend to build into them or you just dont want them

and i would consider not worth tinkering if you specifically run default m2 because it can trigger those

[mellow crystal]

yeag
if you can't get a small enemy in the bag that'll die in 3 hits i recommend some nearby interactable instead

chests and such are really good free junk sources

[brazen briar]

Yessss

[burnt salmon]

If i have a clover and three lens maker glasses, how much is my total probability of hitting crit?

[tardy marsh]

twisted scavenger

maybe

and the top one is mythrix

2nd one is voidling

[full apex]

52% ish if you dont have pred or scythe or another crit item giving you their 5% freebie

[marble osprey]

for low amounts you can approximate clover as doubling crit

it's a little bit less than that but it's close enough

[full apex]

It ends up being off pretty quick, at 30% it would already be off by a full glasses stack

[marble osprey]

only 9% not 10% but yeah

like i said a little bit less

good enough for a quick approximation

[burnt salmon]

hehe... 67

Ty tho

[placid bridge]

Is there a way to get rid of items from being pulled out of the Artifact of Evolution?

I like the runs but i want to get rid of Dio's Best Friend After it fried a boss

[short bolt]

@tardy marsh thanks

[full apex]

Not in vanilla I dont think

[humble agate]

can anyone tell me what those 2 monsters are

Cause i got no clue

Oh and do those log drones have a better chance of spawning if i have a lot of 57 clovers?

[tardy marsh]

souless amalgamator and i think twisted scavanger

[jaunty furnace]

solus amalgamator and probably solus heart

but i dont have the full picture so i dontknow

[humble agate]

Yeah it's just those two

But still why does it show that solus heart is locked

[lavish jacinth]

There's a bug where it always appears locked until you actually get the log

[radiant pelican]

I forget after activing primordial tp can you still loop or am I cooked?

[hoary sedge]

like as in the tp event is done and you're still on stage 5 or as in you're on commencement?

[steel lance]

you can loop by entering an artifact code into the compound teleporter, but if you went through primal tp you're cooked

[radiant pelican]

I'm on the other stage

[steel lance]

if you're on the moon it's joever for looping

[radiant pelican]

Nah nah I have gone though it yet

I'm on the red stage

I forget the name

[steel lance]

helminth hatchery?

[radiant pelican]

Yeah

[steel lance]

at the top of the stage there's an artifact teleporter

you can put a code in there and then go through that instead

[radiant pelican]

Oh I did not know this

[steel lance]

and you'll loop after doing the artifact stage

[radiant pelican]

Thank you very much

[steel lance]

np! happy to help

[long raven]

has anyone here tried doing the operator elder lemurian challenge on today's prismatic?

It has artifact of command and lemurians on stage 2 so it seems nice, though swarms is kind of unlucky

[steel lance]

not personally but lowkey it's really easy, if you just walk up to one and use a primordial cube straight up you get the achievement before it hits the floor

[long raven]

Issue is equipment is fixed so this might not work here

[steel lance]

ah yea true

[long raven]

Should I just spam like 3 breaching fins or more? Or is there anything else to take aside from 2x transport drone

[steel lance]

default special is useful

default secondary can be too but it's only really good as the finishing touch because the transport drones when you use default secondary drop the enemy so quickly it's p much impossible to keep them from hitting the floor

[long raven]

Wait nvm lol there's an equipment barrelr ight next to the elders, easy

Now time to decide if I even want to use firewall and amp core since eject core +ascent feel so good in tandem

[hoary sedge]

firewall can be decent but it's definitely a different feel, I very much prefer ascent

amp core is still nice with ascent bc you still get the boost from throwing the core

amp+ascent is also a very high survivability combo bc you have a lot of mobility and a strong aggro draw

[primal vector]

Firewall and amp core also have very good game feel together. Stuff pushed by firewall dont gain momentum, they stay on the spot when firewall ends. This can be used to push the core and enemies together so they end up in the range of the explosion

[trim lynx]

and the push ofc charges the core a bit too

[hoary sedge]

tldr: operator has no bad loadouts

[supple lava]

anyones playing I need friend to play wahahaha

[upper agate]

I have a question, have anyone tested if makes artificer's primary skills have a shorter cooldown?
Because I know a lot of skill do interact with negative attack speed, but none of them are cooldown related like arti's primaries

-# there's also the thing that it increases cooldown speed too

[ocean monolith]

Amp Core can be used in the same manner as Ejection Core

It’ll just take a tiny bit longer for the drone to automatically go to you (you can still just touch it and it’ll grab you)

[lavish jacinth]

#lfg-pc-ror2 or whatever platform you're on

[short bolt]

Does anyone else have one more missing drone from their logbook? Ive gotten loads of drones but somehow don’t have this one green one

[lavish jacinth]

can you show a screenshot?

[short bolt]

Ye one sec

[lavish jacinth]

That's operators' transport drone

[short bolt]

ohhhh

That makes so much sense

Thanks

[pliant hatch]

Hello, just killed False son, is it possible to go On from there ? I dont have any portal, just the shrine

[lavish jacinth]

if you interact with the shrine but cancel instead of picking an item, a portal will spawn. If you have AC enabled then an encrypted portal also spawns if you wait for 10 seconds or so

[violet dust]

is transcendance good on engi (stage 3 rn with no bungus)

[pliant hatch]

I just did a loop but now I keep getting a golden portal, tho I would like to kill the false son to get the character, can I not access the zone after the first loop ?

[lavish jacinth]

You can, but you need to be on a valid stage for it (any stage but 4 iirc)

You also can't have killed false son on that run already

[pliant hatch]

Well I did D:

[lavish jacinth]

It's fine for engie himself, but not great for his turrets

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, you'll just have to start a new run then.
Protip, easiest way to get a halcyon seed for the unlock is to check the bazaar, gilded coast is decently common in lunar seers

[pliant hatch]

Aight thanks a bunch for the help

[vague saffron]

Haven’t used artifact of command in a while, I wanted to make a funny build but regenerative scrap isn’t there? Is it a bug or did they remove it from artifact of command

[gilded fog]

Flurry or strafe for huntress’ primary?

Just in general but I’m gonna fight false son for the skin

[vague saffron]

Flurry imo

[ocean monolith]

Strafe

Only take Flurry if you're going for a Crit Printer read

[vague saffron]

woah now

Flurry is better for sure

[ocean monolith]

With enough crit, yea

But crit is never guaranteed

[vague saffron]

I suppose

[ocean monolith]

Sometimes you'll get locked into a 0 crit run and just be stuck with a 1% chance to deal damage with your M1

[vague saffron]

Strafe is more reliant

But flurry is better (with the right build)

[ocean monolith]

You see that's the issue

[vague saffron]

Ya but that’s the fun of it

[ocean monolith]

Flurry relies on a specific set of items to work

[vague saffron]

A gamble each run

[ocean monolith]

If you want consistency, Strafe should be your first pick

But if you want to chance a good crit run, then go ahead and pick Flurry

[vague saffron]

You seem to know your stuff

[vague saffron]

Yk what’s up with this?

[ocean monolith]

But just remember that there are only 2 items that can reliably stack crit chance

[ocean monolith]

No idea

It's supposed to be there

[ocean monolith]

Over 2k hours grants you a lot of knowledge

[vague saffron]

It’s usually leaching seed

And it wasn’t on that run so I lowk got off ✌️

[vague saffron]

Damn 😭

Well problem solved

Didn’t realize on my first run it was a TEMP item I had picked up from my junk drone

😭

[ocean monolith]

Well that would've been good information to have

[vague saffron]

Ya prolly

Well thanks anyways 🙏

[ocean monolith]

[pastel epoch]

Clearly forgetting the god strat of Ocular HUD and a bunch of Gestures

[ocean monolith]

Not everyone is willing to use Lunars

[olive silo]

Hey guys...I just bought the game and cant find any multiplayer lobbies?? any reason for this?

[ocean monolith]

People typically do private lobbies because randoms typically suck, check the lfg channels (go to the one that matches your platform)

[olive silo]

thanks bro

[full apex]

It only takes like 30% crit or something to be better, so unless you get really unlucky it shouldnt be that bad, though both of her primaries suck so it doesnt really matter that much

[lavish jacinth]

It may also be due to your crossplay settings if you're on steam, it's better to have it off

[marble osprey]

In terms of just the dps of the arrows themselves, it becomes better at 18% crit
In terms of the raw number of procs, it becomes better at 26% crit
But in terms of the total damage of proc items, factoring in the lower damage and lower proc coefficient of flurry's arrows, it only becomes better at 76% crit, and is only a 7.6% increase over strafe even at full crit
Also, like you said her primary isn't that good, the time when it's most impactful is stage 1, where you won't have much if any crit regardless of how lucky you get later, so strafe is definitely the better decision imo

That being said, I still take flurry because crit go pewpewpewpewpewpew :)

[full apex]

I used to prefer the tempo option for stage 1 but since her kit is just so undertuned, most of the damage is from her other stuff anyways.. So opening synergy with high rof stuff seems like a solid enough choice I just figure neither is really that much better. They end up so close anyways, by the time the pdps is very relevant, her m1 is kinda just getting wheelchaired either way haha

So I would just take whatever you feel like, strafe is more consistent less think about stuff but flurry is funny

-# Or take visions

Jk if youre on huntress you probably want the agile haha

[heavy steppe]

do enemies stop spawning after too long on a stage (tele hasnt been done yet)

[livid wedge]

No

[south orbit]

Why can’t we get our equipment back from the drone?

[steel lance]

if you could then there'd be no cost to buying one

[lavish jacinth]

if you could, then the drone would basically be immortal because you could just repair it with the equipment it dropped

[south orbit]

Not on death, just take it back… and kill it

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, if you wanted to keep the equipment then you shouldn't have given it to the drone

also they're already one of the strongest drones in the game, they really don't need to be buffed by turning them into free equipment storage

[steel lance]

yea true actually you could use them to smuggle equipment between stages

with the proposed change

[heavy gorge]

Detain the drones for smuggling. Glory to Arstotzka

[rich bobcat]

yes cuz on console mithrix cannot magically give you a 1 million lunar coin loan unlike on pc

[ocean monolith]

Well it’s not that

The accessibility of Lunars can be seen as unappealing

[gritty vapor]

idk , i wouldnt call the equipment drone particularly strong ,every time i stack up on drones it's the first drone to die

[lavish jacinth]

it can soft carry a run with the right equipment

80% built-in cooldown reduction means they can spam anything you give them

[gritty vapor]

yeah ig

[lavish jacinth]

is a constant stunlock and it works on mithrix
gives full uptime on strike drones
can do a ton of damage with the shortened cooldown
has almost full uptime
just to name a few

[gritty vapor]

true true

idk it js never seems strong when i take it

but maybe im js not noticing it

[steel lance]

i only take lunars if there's a pod and a cleansing pool on the same stage for the free pearl

[ocean monolith]

Same

[livid wedge]

I'll always take , , and

Everything else is a case by case basis

[ocean monolith]

I’ll take one in the Bazaar if I feel like reading the Cleansing Pool spawns on Aphelian

[bitter steeple]

What’s the best way to deal with the Vengeance trial

[humble agate]

Can someone tell why is there an option to make your hud size 10%?

That shit literally turns your game microscopic

They should really make some changes for some settings

And not dlc exclusive

[feral river]

what causes mythrix to have those spikes?

crystals i mean

it was there since the start of the fight, i am playing vanilla, with artifact of prestige, evolution, spirit and bombs

[lavish jacinth]

they correspond to the items he stole

[feral river]

ohhhhh

makes sense, cause of evolution he had a bunch of them

[crimson prairie]

maybe not really an in game question, but have they ever invited creators to feedback DLCs before release prior to Alloyed Collective? or is it something they started to do after the launch of SoTS

[feral river]

i know they did it to fix the sots dlc

[boreal parcel]

Can anyone explain what is going on please? I have 1 missile item and operator started shooting like 7 billion of them and my game is at 1 fps

[lavish jacinth]

known bug, it happens if operator uses a transport drone on a stationary enemy

[boreal parcel]

Do you know if they said anything about fixing it? it's suprising such a gamebreaking bug is still here

[marble osprey]

they've said previously that they won't be releasing any more bug fixes until the next dlc comes out

[boreal parcel]

damn, that sucks

[ocean monolith]

Just get mods

Pretty sure one of the default mods fixes this, but idk which one

[marble osprey]

yeah i was just looking through them to check
it's WolfFixes, took me some time to find it bc its not listed in the readme but it's in the changelog

[ocean monolith]

Ah ok

[crimson prairie]

thanks, glad they figured shit out

[cunning gorge]

should you typically scrap bens raincoat or is it better than it sounds

[feral river]

I scrap it

[marble osprey]

i wouldn't, but more because red scrap is even less useful
it can definitely save you occasionally, especially if you're looping, blocking bleed from an imp overlord, collapse from anything, no healing from a malachite elite, or cripple from perfected elites, all things that are very capable of getting you killed

meanwhile red scrap is nearly unusable, red printers are super rare and a good white soup on the moon is also pretty rare

[lavish jacinth]

but on the other hand, it's a pretty shitty red

[marble osprey]

yeah its definitely not great, id just say its slightly better than red scrap

definitely recycle it if you can

[lavish jacinth]

Safer spaces is also better in almost every way lol

braincoat has a shorter base cooldown but that's about it

[marble osprey]

i mean yeah but safer spaces is better than a lot of things

[feral river]

i just wish it could bypass the cooldown of bands

[lavish jacinth]

And to think it used to make you completely immune to debuffs

the nerf was justified but they went the complete opposite direction and made the item garbage instead

[ocean monolith]

Crazy how it also included Curse

[cobalt sigil]

does operator have an itemless pillar skip (please ping for response)

[ocean monolith]

Yes

It's very slow tho

[marble osprey]

someone already responded, but to add on to that https://www.riskofresources.com/guides is always a good place to go for that kind of thing, it has videos detailing pretty much every pillar skip (plus a lot of other things)
the one you want is in the most recent vid about pillar skips around 3 minutes in, if you want to see it done

[cobalt sigil]

woaghhhhhh

[bitter steeple]

What’s the best way to deal with the Vengeance trial as loader

[cunning gorge]

does crit glasses cap at 10 for Railgunner or do they infinitely add 10% critical strike damage

[lavish jacinth]

they do stack infinitely, but lenses only give a 5% damage bonus per stack so it's not really worth it

[cunning gorge]

i just kinda headbutted him a bunch but make sure the doppleganger doesnt get too OP items (if youre playing command)

[cunning gorge]

alr thank you

[bitter steeple]

What items should I avoid?

[cunning gorge]

Runalds band could probably really hurt you if not kill you if you get hit, uhh sorry im forgetting a bunch

oh also if you are taking it slow dont let him heal too much (but if you plan on going all-out you can get away with healing items)

tesla coil would be dangerous

[bitter steeple]

The issue I was having is that she just wouldn’t lose health

[cunning gorge]

did you have good damage items or maybe repulsion armor plates?

[lavish jacinth]

Having drones should help keep pressure on her

AP rounds is also pretty useful since they count as a boss, but can't be used against you

would also be a really good combo, umbras can't interact with things so you would be safe from that too

[mossy ledge]

me again… good evening xD

I don’t want to get spoiled but I am lowkey going insane with the Scorched Acres stone tablet. so I’m here to confirm that uh, I am looking for a stone tablet, right? and not a very conveniently arranged set of pots and masks and stones that I happened to find in a spot that would be perfect to put the tablet in

(please don’t tell me where the actual pattern can be found though)

[cunning gorge]

yes, there is an artifact code on scorched acres

[mossy ledge]

ah um thank you,,

unfortunately this is quite vague and doesn’t really answer if the code is on a stone tablet or not. I’ve been suspicious of these ever since I found some codes that are NOT on stone tablets like (spoilers lol) ||Titanic Plains|| and ||A Moment, Whole||

[harsh flower]

What do i do with the charity node?

[lament veldt]

Uhhhhh the big floaty thing that you can offer an item to?

[marble osprey]

no this is the code, you're right

no stone tablet there

[lament veldt]

If you keep a key whatever from the stage before, you can combine it with the thing that the solus unit whatever drops.

I dont know the names of anything in this game...

[harsh flower]

Ty np

[mossy ledge]

DUDE!! oh my god thank you. hahhah even my dad got super invested he had like the sumbols drawn on paper and all xD we’ll be sure to give it another try then

thank you so much

[marble osprey]

np lol

[lament veldt]

Yeah theres a chef to the left of the floaty thing that let's you combine items. Combine it there then you can... I wont spoil it

[harsh flower]

Well got to that digital boss guy lasted 15 seconds and got one shotted lol

[lament veldt]

Lol yeah

Its so cool. Almost identical looking to my favorite game

[marble osprey]

Also not gonna spoil anything but if you're trying to get all the codes on your own, fair warning, you have not seen the worst of them yet, and if you try to find the last few without any hints it will not be fun
But I wish you the best of luck if you decide to go down that road

[mossy ledge]

oh christ

Commencement one scares me, I’ve already spent over an hour looking for that one

Sundered Grove has me stumped as well

hehheh getit stumped? because- ok I’ll show myself out

but thank you, this probably means you’re gonna see me asking for hints later on after I go insane xDD

[marble osprey]

Ok I will say not all the maps have one, I don't believe those two do

[mossy ledge]

wait really? I was certain in my theory of like, 18 basegame environment logs and 18 trials. that every basegame level would have one except maybe Bulwark’s Ambry itself

because one has to be missing because of the ||settings screen stone tablet||

[marble osprey]

Ok you know about that one, that's good

[mossy ledge]

the dopamine I feel after being validated by one of my most trusted informants here ✨✨

[jaunty furnace]

thats so wholesome,,,, 🥺

[marble osprey]

I was considering warning you that not all of them could be found in normal gameplay, but if you've found that one it seems you know that already so I don't need to tell you
Anyway yeah best of luck, feel free to ask if you need a hint (or just post in here if you find them all, I'll be rooting for you)

[mossy ledge]

RIGHT?! I deffo have to include him when I try the code at Sky Meadow later :,D he deserves to feel rewarded for the hard work

[mossy ledge]

yo I get a free pass to ping THE Math Guy?? this is my lucky day 🎉 thank you!! I’ll tell you if I manage to find them all, but I’m certain you’ll be seeing me again in a hint request context instead haha

[marble osprey]

Ping me anytime lol, I love sharing information and helping people out ❤️

[mossy ledge]

awesome, I really appreciate that you’re willing to give just hints or respond to my very specific questions. I love the feeling of finding things or figuring them out myself for the most part haha

feeling #smart for the Siren’s Call one

[marble osprey]

I love that feeling too which is why I'm trying my best to not infringe on it lol

But I also know the frustration of spending entirely too much time in that pursuit only to learn it was pointless so I'm also trying to nudge you away from spending too much time looking for something that isn't there

[mossy ledge]

YOU GET IT ENTIRELY OMG!! like my favorite game genre is literally platformer/collectathon so ofc I love secrets and collectibles, but it’s also why I’ve seen some REALLY bs ones ( *cough* crash bandicoot warped and astro’s playroom bonus content *cough* )

[marble osprey]

Have you played blue prince? If not you really should

[mossy ledge]

I haven’t !! I’ll be sure to look into it

[marble osprey]

Please do, from what you've said I have a feeling you'll love it
To me it feels like if an escape room designer learned about video games and figured out he could make one as deep and complicated as he possibly wanted and people would still do it
Like I have a large notebook with a dozen pages covered with notes for puzzles in that game

[mossy ledge]

okay this sounds legit awesome, no wonder I saw it featured somewhere

okok I really do want to talk more but I gotta head to my appointment, thank you so much for everything

seeya later

[marble osprey]

Anytime lol, cya

[trim lynx]

oh btw if you find one that leads you to vengeance, make sure to keep that combination noted even after unlock

since there are two unlocks tied to that ambry

its a farce if you forget and need to retry combos

[steel lance]

there are two? i only got one there

[trim lynx]

||thunderslam and the artifact itself||

[steel lance]

ohhhhhh right

[ocean monolith]

Goated father

[mossy ledge]

hmm! how curious! thank you very much! good news is that I do indeed have a handy little list of locations and patterns in my notes. I made it after theorizing that most basegame stages have a code… it’s fun to update it 😈

and thank you for putting the spoiler thingy on the other message, there seems to certainly be something that’s still a secret to me

[mossy ledge]

absolutely joyous to see you all appreciating his interest in ror2. he’s already retired so we have all the time to artifact hunt 💪💪 haha

[silk vessel]

if I want to leave the path of the colossus , do I take the teleporter or the green portal?

[high forum]

green

[steel lance]

to leave it you take the tp, green portal continues you along the path

[silk vessel]

thank you!

[cunning gorge]

how big is the Sojourn explosion radius on Seeker? I know the 500,000% damage challenge is cumulative across all targets hit but how bunched up do they need to be?
update: i have learned they have to be pretty close

[steel lance]

it scales with tranquility stacks and flight duration iirc

[bitter steeple]

How do I do the gesture of the drowned unlock?

[lavish jacinth]

get to stage 6 titanic plains and chase hermit crabs off the cliff

having a non-damaging knockback ability like rex's boop or railgunner mines can help, but isn't required. And avoid items like tesla coil that deal damage automatically

swarms also helps, just be extra careful not to kill them. And don't use dissonance, for some reason they don't spawn at all with it enabled

[tribal belfry]

The void fields are killing me, I cant get past them. Does anyone have advice?

[lavish jacinth]

Vields are pretty rng-heavy so it's hard to have a consistent strat for them, other than looping until you're basically invincible. But at a minimum, don't go there until you have decent damage, enough mobility to make it between cells (you don't need much), and a consistent way to heal

If you're going for the character unlock, engineer and void fiend are solid picks if you have them. Engie is great at doing holdouts and fiend's kit just works well for vields in general

[tribal belfry]

I'm going for the mul-t unlock, otherwise I would jump right to the nexus lol

I actually love playing mul-t so thats not a problem, but I was basically deleting enemies with the corrupted glasses until stage 12 and suddenly I just get dumpstered

any tips for items that help with invincibility?

[marble osprey]

There are a couple ways to be basically invincible, but they take a lot of items. Stacking 65 safer spaces can do it, although I think you can still take damage if you get hit by multiple things on the same frame. You can also stack a ton of gestures/fuel cells with blast shower and any amount of safer spaces for the same effect, with the added bonus of having no cooldown on bands, along with a couple other things. You can also stack 25 gestures/fuel cells with deus ex machina for permanent parry uptime, which has the added benefit of giving you the blessed effect

For more normal runs, just getting a variety of damage reduction items is usually enough. For whites, raps, opals, tougher times, and warped echos are the best, and rose bucklers and kinetic dampeners are pretty good greens for the same purpose.

[tribal belfry]

copy, thank you!

do you recommend not corrupting my tougher times?

[marble osprey]

Depends on how confident you are in your ability to not get hit
Safer spaces is better if you get hit very infrequently, tougher times is better if you get hit a lot
So it can depend on your skill level in avoiding attacks, the character you're playing, and even the circumstances of your run
I think the more experienced you become in the game, the more the scale tips in safer spaces' favor, so if you want to get really good eventually I'd recommend trying to get used to using safer spaces, but if you're not that interested tougher times is absolutely a perfectly fine option

[frozen forum]

Can you stack enough psg to the point it cancels fall damage?

[lavish jacinth]

Fall damage is a % of your non-shield health, so it wouldn't go down to 1 damage like transcendence. But you could have enough shield that even a big fall doesn't break all of it, it would take a lot of stacks though

At that point just get transcendence

[frozen forum]

What if you're trying to skip pillars and your only choice is that psg soup

[frozen forum]

So basically you should have more shield than health?

[lavish jacinth]

I think so, no idea how many you'd need exactly though.

I assume you're on eclipse

[frozen forum]

That would be 13

13*8=104% shield

[lavish jacinth]

Well yeah, but I'm not sure exactly how much fall damage you'd be taking. 13 may not be enough

[frozen forum]

Since fall damge is a % of max health it shouldn't do more than than double your health

Right?

I am honestly not fully clued on how fall damage calculations are done

[lavish jacinth]

It scales off of your max health, but it could go over that amount. That's the part I'm not sure about

[frozen forum]

I couldn't find a "fall damage" article on the wiki

[lavish jacinth]

Maybe just do the pillars lol

[frozen forum]

Hell nah

[lavish jacinth]

They're not THAT bad

[frozen forum]

Anything but doing pillars

[lavish jacinth]

Unless you're being forced to do soul with focused convergence or something

[frozen forum]

Pillars ARE that bad

[lavish jacinth]

They're really not lol

They're mostly just boring

[frozen forum]

Doing the skip is more fun

[lavish jacinth]

But it only takes like 5 minutes

I mean, you can dump everything into the psg soup and hope for the best, it's your funeral

[analog brook]

What skip are you even trying to do

[frozen forum]

H0st

[analog brook]

Please remember that the old location doesn't work nowaday

And the new location does require you to respawn several times in most cases

[frozen forum]

You mean the one near soup?

[analog brook]

Yes that does not work after SotS

Except chef during roll for some (??????) reason
But chef roll has a different extremely easy set-up

[frozen forum]

Yeah i use the on bridge

[analog brook]

As who?

Like please remember you can't do it in one jump

[frozen forum]

With enough speed it usually works with one

I've only had it not work once before but i was on viend and the utility gave me enough height

[marble osprey]

Yes, on normal difficulties the max it can do is your full health, on eclipse 3 or higher or with artifact of frailty that's doubled so it can do up to double your max health