ror2-game-questions

[lavish jacinth]

but I'd say just try them all out and see what you think

[stuck venture]

yeah i was thinking about trying out merc, i played loader, its fun but not as fun as operator or drifter

[unreal void]

ye im missing some

[lavish jacinth]

if you hover over a locked thing it'll tell you what you need to do get it

[unreal void]

k

[hearty shore]

engineer turrets dont fall right

[high phoenix]

any way to avoid the bugged cooldown visual? (only happens on monsoon too) It always happens by stage 2 and makes it hard for me to time attacks for combos

[onyx plume]

i swear titanic plains have lower chance to spawn a halcyon shrine than other stage 1 maps

[analog brook]

That is true! This is why: https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Content_Source_Limit

Nice observation ;)

[onyx plume]

oh wow...

read the whole thing and confirms couple of things actually

[analog brook]

Yea.... it sucks

[onyx plume]

but like.. why?

why is it set up like that... is this intentional?

thats so weird... because it indeed affects gameplay in a way that might penalize not knowing this information

[analog brook]

No clue, this was a limit set in the code when spawn pools were reworked and repolished in the phase 2.0 update of the SotS roadmap and has been a worry for a handful of people that knew about it including myself. And it just stayed that way even when the third dlc came out, it is intentional from their side obviously since its there and its an arbitrary limit, but there's no good reason and its definitely unhealthy for the game, if youre a pc player i can send the link for a mod that removes the limit here

[onyx plume]

yeah sure i would love that actually

[analog brook]

No prob, one sec

@onyx plume https://thunderstore.io/package/Moffein/NoContentSourceMixLimit/ here ya go

[onyx plume]

tyty!

[sour dove]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/16014226172269965842/11AEA94F2306C66902E9D46980BDFA142876E175/

how does one not get eviscerated by voidling

[proud wedge]

heyo im new and might be dumb question but when i look at lobbies to join theres none i click “show started games and theres like 3 i hop on at not the bests times tho(its 4 am for me) is there not many lobbies normally or do i have inconvenient timing (i also have all dlc)

[mellow crystal]

most people play in private lobbies with their friends or with people in #lfg-pc-ror2

[proud wedge]

anhh okay ty

[jaunty furnace]

dont sit and watch it laser you

sprint or get behind cover

[sour dove]

thanks twin i beat it on my next try

[idle tendon]

I need help, whenever I try to do single player it just black screens and doesn’t load. I’ve tried alt enter, deleting the game and reinstalling, verifying files, turning crossplay off, deleting the actual files that do the epic games check, etc literally nothing works

[harsh grail]

what are lunar items

[vapid quarry]

They're blue and come from the lunar shop, have pretty strong upsides for the most part but are accompanied with a downside

[jaunty furnace]

a rarity of items that (are supposed to) have downsides
their rarity color is blue and they are dropped from lunar pods and the bazaar shop

but some of them are just overpowered with no meaningful downside

and some of them fucking ruin you

[vapid quarry]

Some of them the downside isn't really a downside

[visual brook]

Do you think ego should get buffed

[jaunty furnace]

idk

probably not

[visual brook]

It would be better if it got a 5% dmg increase for each stack

[jaunty furnace]

why

[vapid quarry]

That seems a bit too strong

[visual brook]

5% of 100%not % of 300%

[sick spear]

I need help with a build for Merc and Engi.

[lavish jacinth]

they're both proc characters, so prioritize getting as many different on-hit effects as possible. "Builds" in ror2 aren't really a thing tho, items are designed with randomness in mind so you always wanna go for variety rather than getting specific things

engie does have notable synergies with , but he still wants procs for the bulk of his damage

[lavish jacinth]

it really doesn't need it, it already stacks really well

it gains effective fire rate, range, and burst dps by being able to build up more orbs

and just to give you an idea, at 60 stacks it can deal 21,600% dps, a little over half a diablo strike every second

[rapid current]

is drifter and infinite and healthy meal a good build

[harsh grail]

i keep dying to the clay dunestrider or whatever its called any tips on how to beat it

[jaunty furnace]

it goes into suck mode at low hp
run away to stop getting sucked

if a boss is too tough to deal with around other enemies, charge the tp to 99% to stop monsters from spawning

[livid wedge]

If you can manage to get all suck targets away for any amount of time, it's suck ability immediately ends

[marble osprey]

you can also avoid being sucked in the first place either by getting out of line of sight or out of range but once its started you can only break it by getting out of range

once you've broken/avoided it though it won't reconnect even if you get back in range so you can get as close as you want after it's already started

[lavish jacinth]

It also won't do the suck if it's doing the tar ball attack, so if you think you can finish it off quickly enough, wait for it to do that attack and dump damage into it

the tar balls themselves are pretty easy to avoid, and you can dodge the pot mortars by sprinting and circlestrafing, or just getting to cover

it'll open its lid when it's about to start launching pots so pay attention to that

[peak holly]

*it doesn’t care about line of sight

[marble osprey]

it does, you're free to go test it yourself

[peak holly]

I have seen it hundreds of times

Unless this is a console moment

From before the rebuild

Because I have a vivid memory of it beginning to suck me through a wall on abandoned aqueduct

[vapid quarry]

It does not break if los is lost on PC can confirm

[marble osprey]

correct, but it won't start the suck if it doesn't have line of sight. once it has, only distance can break it

[marble osprey]

haven't played on console so i can't say, it's also possible that it was changed at some point a while ago, but currently on PC it will not start on you if you are out of line of sight, and it has been that way for a decent amount of time

[frosty reef]

You won't get sucked if you don't have lineofsight when the attack begins but if you're being sucked then breaking los does nothing

[tribal crypt]

does the mired urn work the same way as the suck attack in that it needs los and it can only be broken afterwards by distance

[marble osprey]

good question, gimme a sec

[tribal crypt]

i used to dupe tons of them using egocentrism and the pearl pool and whatever the yellow 3d printer was called so youd think i would remember lol

[marble osprey]

it swaps constantly to new enemies depending on which one is closest i think so it makes sense you wouldn't really pay attention to exactly when it goes on or off

im guessing that it does not need line of sight but testing it out rn

[tribal crypt]

yeah for some reason that sounds right but i want to know now

i havent actually checked the wiki would it say there?

[marble osprey]

ok, it does not need line of sight, however you do have to be in combat, which usually means you have line of sight

[agile pulsar]

any tips on this bs?

Im really starting to dislike the whole unlocking thing

I really want to do them legit, but I spent 10 hours so far trying to do unlock that skill on monsoon

I just wanna play the game 😭 without having to think about weird stuff like that

[tribal crypt]

potentially good to know

[tribal crypt]

lmao and i thought glorious battle was bad

[shy halo]

drop all damage boosting items like atg and tri-tip daggers you don't need them when you can just stack 700 lunar ruin, lunar spikes recharge faster than lunar ruin wears off so use that, during final phase just focus on keeping the debuff on and not actually killing mithrix, stacking too much ruin too fast risks you losing control of the damage, mithrix starts doing the orb attack that kills himself at <90% hp so you can just rely on that to chip away at him until aurelionite can kill him.
also false son has itemless pillar skips

[peak holly]

Mhmm definitely a console moment then, probably fixed in the sotv rebuild and I never noticed

[agile pulsar]

thanks!!! last time I fought him at stage 20 which gave mythrix wayy too much attack speed and I immediately died phase 4. I might just cheat and use artifact of command tbh

[frosty reef]

i remember there were quite a couple console moments for murn back when i started on xbox so makes sense

[marble osprey]

this isn't the first time i've had someone be very convinced that it doesn't require line of sight so i wouldn't be surprised if it was a console thing but i don't have a way to test it

[vapid quarry]

This is true

[agile pulsar]

does artifact of swarms help for unlocking gesture of the drowned?

[gentle crane]

in multiplayer eclipse run do loot boxes per map increases too? or is it the same as playing solo eclipse?

[marble osprey]

Yes, there is more loot per stage
Assuming you share items equally you'll still get a bit less than if you played solo if i remember correctly, but not by too much, certainly not the normal amount divided by the number of players

[jaunty furnace]

eclipse changes nothing

[gloomy lintel]

What do I do with this?

[jaunty furnace]

turns lunars into pearls

[finite lantern]

how does operator's nano bug work? as long as they stay in the air the debuff remains?

[jaunty furnace]

yeab

there might be a timer too though

im not sure

or maybe its exclusive to flying enemies

[harsh grail]

whats that thing where instead of an item you gain a menu from where you can select which item you want

[high forum]

[agile pulsar]

is there a mod that allows you to get all 8 pressure plate spawns on aqueduct at the same time?

[frosty reef]

For what reason would you need that?

[agile pulsar]

practice

[frosty reef]

Ah I see. Your best way to go is just set the stage to goolake after you've practiced on the two that spawn. Can use debugtoolkit for that

[blissful wren]

Hello, can someone tell me which enviroment is this?

[vapid quarry]

"Hidden Realm: A Moment, Whole"

[blissful wren]

i have that a bit back next to the planetarium

thank you though

[vapid quarry]

Oh wait

Uh....

Is it one of the bulwark ambry's?

[blissful wren]

i have like 3 of them, how many are of those? xD

[harsh grail]

how do i "enter the deep void" (in void locus)

[lavish jacinth]

charge all of the void signal things and then take the void portal that spawns

[zinc turtle]

What are some other common things you'd want to practice with debugtoolkit?

[agile pulsar]

do more enemies spawn if the teleporter event is on?

[lavish jacinth]

yes, but they stop spawning once it hits 99%

[agile pulsar]

so its worth it to activate if you want more enemies to spawn

[lavish jacinth]

depends on what you want them for

iirc enemies drop reduced gold while it's active, to compensate for the higher spawnrate

[frosty reef]

Pillar skips and all the various techs in the game

[marble osprey]

they also have reduced chances of dropping items if you're using artifact of sacrifice

[south egret]

although there’s always a minimum of 5%

[vapid quarry]

Is that chance affected by 57?

[marble osprey]

no, sacrifice is not affected by luck, so you dont get more items with 57 leaf clover, or fewer with purity

[vapid quarry]

Interesting

[frosty reef]

Drop chances with sacrifice lower while the tp is active though

[full apex]

Yea it swaps from one normal director to two, one that tries to spawn frequently and one that spawns bigger stuff a bit less frequently, with lower reward coefficients on each. the net income is a bit lower in total

[solemn sage]

benthic bloom cant be removed right?

[lavish jacinth]

nope
only way to remove it would be for egocentrism to eat it, or to have shrine of order turn it into larva

[solemn sage]

ok

[karmic hemlock]

does the blessing from deus ex affect crit chance?

[peak holly]

Yep, the blessed hit will always crit

[brazen mesa]

should i ignore turrets as operator

[mellow crystal]

If you have the money you might as well grab em
A bit of extra damage on stage start and if you get a drone scrapper they're free white scrap

[brazen mesa]

hmm

ok

[tame zealot]

^but they aren't any different on operator, unlike drones

[jaunty furnace]

...you sure?

i dont think thats true

[peak holly]

It triggers all on-hits

Critting is an on hit effect

Lemme look at the wiki

[lavish jacinth]

crit is an exception iirc

since it's technically a character stat and not a proc

[peak holly]

Hopoo gam- wait no, gearbox softworks

[lavish jacinth]

technically it's kinda both

hopoo's the one who decided how crit should work

[peak holly]

🤷

[peak holly]

Amendment: deus doesn’t include crits

[agile pulsar]

is transcendence positive or negative if you wanna do scorched earth on seeker? (500k% damage with sojourn)

[lavish jacinth]

very positive, it reduces the self-damage of sojourn to 1

[agile pulsar]

but you cant regen at all correct

since shield regenerates after not taking damage

so you cant stay infinitely

[lavish jacinth]

well, you can't stay infinitely either way

but it allows you to stay in sojourn way longer than you normally would

[zinc turtle]

you can pretty sure

i'm pretty sure it's literally infinite

[lavish jacinth]

it's not, it'll eventually kick you out when your health goes below 15%

but there's no time limit other than that

[agile pulsar]

what if you use it with aegis

hidden synergy??

[lavish jacinth]

I dunno if the single pixel of barrier that aegis normally gives you would help much

and sojourn gradually decreases the amount of healing you receive down to 0% so it wouldn't work either way

[jaunty furnace]

so?

[agile pulsar]

500k damage is a lot and idk if stuff lile crowbars work for it

[lavish jacinth]

it's not as bad as it sounds

and multipliers do help

it also adds up the total amount of damage dealt across multiple enemies, it doesn't have to be a single hit

[agile pulsar]

i ran into an enemy with 10 void crystals watches crowbars and 2 shaped glass and it wasnt enough 😭

[lavish jacinth]

well voidsent flame wouldn't have helped anyway, that damage is separate from sojourn

[jaunty furnace]

..void crystals?

[lavish jacinth]

assuming that's what you meant

[agile pulsar]

meant focus crystal oops

[jaunty furnace]

you mean focus crystal?

[lavish jacinth]

oh

[jaunty furnace]

ok

[lavish jacinth]

hitting a big group of enemies with a bunch of different damage multipliers is the best way to do it though, and stay in sojourn as long as you can to build up damage

and max out tranquility stacks first

a trick to get a big crowd of enemies is to do kin + swarms and hit the teleporter for a huge horde of many, and that'll also let you use as an extra multiplier

[agile pulsar]

palm hands time to shine 🔥 with swarm

[quick plover]

can i still unlock items using artifact of sacrifice?

[lucid haven]

I think yes.

[lavish jacinth]

artifacts don't prevent unlocks

[lucid haven]

How many times did you beat solous heart before unlock the logbook of it? It’s like taking forever.

[lavish jacinth]

I still don't have it

it's a 3% chance affected by luck, same as other bosses, but it doesn't have multiple phases so it'll likely take longer than the others

[mellow crystal]

It technically does have multiple phases but they're hp% based rather than having multiple healthbars

[quick plover]

so only artifact of command prevent unlocks?

[jaunty furnace]

no

[lavish jacinth]

command doesn't prevent unlocks either

[south egret]

no, but you do need to pick up the item at some point in order to select it with command turned on

[lavish jacinth]

this isn't true either
if it's unlocked, it'll show up in command, regardless of whether you've picked it up

[south egret]

either that's wrong, or something changed recently

[lavish jacinth]

it would have to be very, very recent then

[south egret]

huh ...

I guess I'm wrong then

[agile pulsar]

isnt this pretty easy with command? since its affected by luck

looping run, you spam clovers like crazy with regen scrap and bazaar

[south egret]

yes!

[jaunty furnace]

everything is easy with command

[lucid haven]

I appreciate that ROR2 provides players different ways to play. Even the non pro players could enjoy this game and even unlock achievements by using command.

[agile pulsar]

Imma be honest Im extremely annoyed by these unlocks. I really wanna keep playing on monsoon so I just command all of them, so I can actually play the game lmao

[lavish jacinth]

completely fair tbh, some of them really suck

[frosty reef]

That's why I just cheated all the unlocks in

[lavish jacinth]

I don't mind doing it legit when it's some kind of actual challenge, but I usually just cheat or use command for the ones that are just "do some arbitrary bullshit for no reason"

and gearbox LOVES making us do arbitrary bullshit apparently

[quartz nacelle]

i can play ror2 with ppl on xbox if im on pc?

[steady stone]

the only crossplay is between steam and epic games

[flat gulch]

Chat i just got alloyed collective, how do I get drifter?

[jaunty furnace]

beat solus wing and explore the area

[agile pulsar]

why is railgunner pillar skip so hard 😭

my run is absolutely cooked theres no way I can survive against pillars

ive been trying for 15 minutes

[frosty reef]

Which one are you trying

[agile pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v45b74EKR1s

i have cryo charge but idt that matters

[frosty reef]

Cryo means you can use a different strat that is easier. Pillar skip guide part 2 at riskofresources.com/guides will get you what you need

Might actually be in the part 1 guide idr

[agile pulsar]

tried that strat for 15 minutes, fell down and got killed by a wisp

thats 30 minutes total I spent trying the skip and didnt succeed once even with feather... I might be the worst gamer of all time

[tribal crypt]

artificer with the alternate zap skill can skip pillars because she doesn't fall down as far as she rises in the time it takes to recharge right

wait does lysate cell affect the shift ability or the r one because she'd be the fastest pillar skip in the game

[frosty reef]

If you're on PC you can use the debugtoolkit mod to practice if you want

could even record your attempts and see what you're doing differently

[flat gulch]

Does anyone have like an item tierlist for operator?

And also what're the best abilities for operator?

AND ALSO, BEST EQUIPMENT?

[lavish jacinth]

default m2, either utility but default is probably better, default special

item tierlists for characters aren't really a thing though, any that do exist tend to be pretty shit

you pretty much wanna build operator the same way you'd build commando, heavy focus on on-hit effects

[lavish jacinth]

also don't use the transport drone, it's bugged atm and will destroy your framerate if you use it with his m2 and try to pick up a stationary enemy

unless you're on switch

[smoky jewel]

idk if someone told you but its one of the bulwarks ambrey ones

[smoky jewel]

best equipment with or without command atifact?

[muted token]

anyone know if deus ex gauranteed proc works with all bullets on things like captain shotgun or other stuff

[spare scroll]

is there a bug with MUL-T where if you run into an equipment while you already have 2 it just deletes the equipment?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[spare scroll]

aughhh

[lavish jacinth]

apparently it gets stored in a hidden 3rd slot used by functional coupler

which means if you find one, the "deleted" equipment will be in its slot iirc

[spare scroll]

mmh

[frail matrix]

guys i acc need help with a problem

im a new player, havent gone through the main menu due to a problem that js blackscreens and still plays the music instead of going into character select and i genuinely racked up 2 hours of playtime trying to make it work PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME

[harsh grail]

are items shared in multiplayer

[granite siren]

No

[livid wedge]

No, but there is a mod

Honestly, makes it way too easy, though

[rapid current]

does 2 on drifter give u 169% or 160%

[lavish jacinth]

160%
stacking buffs from the same source is always additive, with the exception of shaped glass

and attack speed in particular is pretty much always additive even with different sources

[rapid current]

is there a 🧢 on attak speed on drifter

[lavish jacinth]

there's always a hard cap of 60 attacks per second

some survivors have an additional cap that's lower, but I don't know if drifter has one

[cloud field]

hello I'm pretty new to ror2 and I really like the chacrther Commando and I have a question about 1 of his unlocks: how do I go 20 stages in 1 run?

[lavish jacinth]

on stage 5, you can interact with the prongs around the teleporter before starting it to shift the destination, which will allow you to loop and keep doing more stages

you'll also loop if you leave stage 5 through any portal other than the main teleporter

[cloud field]

ah

[jaunty furnace]

if you use literally anything other than using the stage 5 teleporter normally, youll loop

[cloud field]

thx

[jaunty furnace]

portals, artifact portals, shifting the tp, etc

[rapid current]

how muh dmg do u need to do to newt to him kik u out

[lavish jacinth]

1% of his health

[cloud field]

does Stun grenade's chance of proccing stack like does it have a higher chance of activating if I have 4 of them instead of 1?

[shy halo]

according to wiki it stacks like 0.05x/(1+0.05x)

[cloud field]

okay

[lavish jacinth]

items always have a stacking effect, except for quest items

[jaunty furnace]

wtf does this mean

why would you explain it like this

[shy halo]

because the wiki says so and who the hell is gonna understand "hyperbolic scaling"

[jaunty furnace]

stun is hyperbolic???? wtf

[shy halo]

apparently thats what that type of formula is

[marble osprey]

Yeah bc otherwise you could easily get 100% chance which would be broken

[frosty reef]

So logorithmic would probably be the better way to describe it no? X value being number of stacks instead of x being the outcome? Seems a bit backwards

Yeah they say hyperbolic and then show a log graph for like everything

[marble osprey]

X is the number of stacks though?

[jaunty furnace]

you can already permastun with like 1-2 grenades if you have a fast firerate

and also if you stack 50 fucking stun grenades you should have 100% stun

that is an insane amount of stacks for one item

[frosty reef]

It should be, which would make it log no? Or else if you keep scaling stacks and it was hyperbolic, then the output (stun chance) would be exponentially scaling right?

Like this, this is not a hyperbolic graph

[marble osprey]

They look similar to a log graph, but it is hyperbolic I'm pretty sure

Because it's based off the function 1/x

[stuck venture]

how the hell am i supposed to do a prismatic trial hitless, cabbage is a war veteran with this but im an average guy

[marble osprey]

Wait for an easy seed, mostly

[jaunty furnace]

if the current seed is too hard wait for an easier one

[stuck venture]

does cabbage tell if a seed is easy?

[jaunty furnace]

even if he did his words wouldve probably been useless for you

[stuck venture]

i guess so, he is too good at this

[frosty reef]

It's like the exact inverse of hyperbolic no?

[hoary sedge]

you can still watch the videos and watch out for things that make seeds easy though

easy loot spots with command, command + glass rolls, easy kin rolls, stuff like that

[marble osprey]

It's still a hyperbola, it's just been mirrored and translated

[frosty reef]

Wouldn't it be 10x more clear to just say logorithmic instead of a mirrored/translated hyperbolic scaling

[stuck venture]

command as in artefact of command? It doesnt even work on prismatic trails

[jaunty furnace]

artifacts are chosen by the seed

[stuck venture]

ohhhhh

[hoary sedge]

yeah command works if it is in the parameters for that seed

[stuck venture]

that expleins a lot

[marble osprey]

Simpler maybe, but not accurate, because it's not a logarithmic function, it's a hyperbolic one

[hoary sedge]

you don't get to pick what artifacts apply

[frosty reef]

Fair I guess. Been a few years since my courses. Just usually a fair assumption to assume exponential scaling output when you say something is hyperbolic but what do I know. I'm not "Math Guy"

[livid wedge]

Yeah, the big difference between the 2 is what happens as X approaches infinity. In a logarithmic equation, there is no upper bound, only a lower one. A hyperbolic equation has an absolute higher and lowet bound

[marble osprey]

you can also do that with exponential scaling but that still runs into the same issue as hyperbolic in that it sounds like it's increasing infinitely

[frosty reef]

Yeah that's why I thought logorithmic would be better since the assumption is diminishing returns

[marble osprey]

I agree it sounds better

And that's the same reason why a lot of in-game descriptions aren't accurate, because a strictly accurate description gives the reader the wrong impression

So they just kinda lie and give you an inaccurate description that gives the right assumption

[frosty reef]

Yeah makes sense. Well thanks for nerding out with me. Missed thinking about math

[marble osprey]

Always happy to, if you couldn't guess from the name lol

[frosty reef]

Love me some numbers too. Kinda wish I did more than just minoring in math but probably best I didn't major in it lol

[livid wedge]

Logarithms are just changing a^x = y to a^y = x but still solving for x

[marble osprey]

I was doing a dual major in math and education, taking a break rn tho

[frosty reef]

Took a year break myself before finishing, definitely a good play for the mental

[tribal crypt]

well yeah it's usually enough that the player has a general idea of what's happening

how technical of a run do you need to get where you know the exact percentage of 7 tougher times

[marble osprey]

Yeah ik, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing that the game does that
Just that the wiki should be the place where we do have those more in-depth, accurate answers, rather than more things that just give the right idea

[tribal crypt]

yeah and i am glad to see that the wiki is developing a life of its own and doing a pretty good job of having these in depth answers

[south egret]

this is not really true. At least, how you wrote this

[viral thistle]

is it worth it to pray to halcyon shrine on stage 5? (in eclipse) I've done it a couple times now and it feels similar to praying to combat shrines where enemies are just super overpowered

[jaunty furnace]

3 possibly very powerful items

yes

[daring cloak]

Ehh I'd say only do it if you feel confident in your ability to dodge ALL of the halc's attacks

[rapid current]

prob not

[crude flame]

not really. contrary to notational belief, logarithmic / hyperbolic scaling in this game actually doesn’t use exponentiation ! the formula for tougher times is .15x/(.15x+1) which ends up not using any powers and scales with linear factors, but asymptotically approaching 1

im not sure if you meant in the math world though. If you did then I suppose this is irrelevant

[marsh gust]

parabolic graphs i think is what cap was thinking of
x^2=y creates a parabola

which is how damage from something like shurikens scales when stacked

[crude flame]

ngl didn’t know this is how shuriken works

i thought it only scaled cooldown lol

[cloud field]

so what does the portal do in sky meadows?

[frosty reef]

Yeah one of the craziest stacking items. All in on a printer worthy

[marsh gust]

the precise formula for shuriken damage output (when you can match the current cooldown with m1 attack speed) is (x+3)(x+2) = y
with y being translated into percentages afterwards which then can be multiplied by your base damage stat and x being your current shuriken stack assuming its above 0

the only limiter for shurikens when stacked is how fast your character can use their m1

and i guess how well you can aim

[marsh gust]

artifact trial

[cloud field]

and what is that?

[marsh gust]

depending on the code input depends on which trial you attempt
but it takes you to a specific stage where you have bring keys to a core that shoots randomly while the selected artifact is forcefully enabled for the stage
after you complete it you get to collect the artifact for optional use in future runs as a modifier for the entire run

[cloud field]

how hard is that?

[marsh gust]

depends on the artifact but not usually too hard

im guessing you input the code on the slab right there

[cloud field]

yeah

[marsh gust]

that one is somewhat challenging but shouldnt be too hard

it just makes all enemies elite type but they have only 2.5x hp and 1.5x damage instead of 4x and 2x to compensate

[cloud field]

hmmm okay then

[marsh gust]

theres other codes in all sorts of places in the game that are (mostly) similar in appearance to that one

you can also look them up on the wiki if you dont feel like looking for them all

[cloud field]

okay

uhh wait waht am i supposed to do ? shooting the cube in the middle after starting it doesn't do anything

[shy halo]

get the artifact key(curved rock thing of yellow rarity) and interact with the center thing

[cloud field]

ooohhhh

[shy halo]

more keys drop from enemies, all keys are destroyed when one is used so stockpiling is pointless

[cloud field]

okay

thx

[shy halo]

you need to do that 4 times(5 if it levels up mid-fight)

more artifact codes are scattered throughout the maps, only at most 1 per map

[cloud field]

ok

[cloud field]

what are pts used for? are they like a balance thing like how good were the aspects of your run were?

[lavish jacinth]

Pretty much, they're basically meaningless

[rapid current]

how does one get 1005 sale stars

i js got it

[rapid current]

how muh hp does the newt have

[cloud field]

idk but he only kicks you out if he is on 1% health

[shy halo]

*if he takes 1% damage or 99% hp remaining

[cloud field]

oh

mb

[tribal crypt]

this is probably posted somewhere already but do captain healing beacons stack

if i drop 2 overlapping do i heal for 20% per second

[hidden canopy]

Can we please get risk of rain 2 a crossplay feature? 🙏🏻

[lavish jacinth]

don't get your hopes up

[rapid current]

kan ego take temp imtes

[high forum]

no

[woven coyote]

Why isn't the demons and the crabs achievement working for me

[hearty shore]

how much can armor be reduced on one character

[mellow crystal]

Infinitely
But armor scaling is hyperbolic so higher amounts aren't as strong

[lavish jacinth]

X armor = X% effective health
so it's linear-ish

unless you mean armor reduction and negative armor

same sort of idea there though, there's technically no limit on negative armor but there are diminishing returns, and the overall damage bonus never goes above 100%

[south egret]

me when I don't understand inverse relations

[mellow crystal]

Just simplifying

[viral minnow]

is it me, or after buying alloyed collective, much more monsters spawn, like even on stage one there are a lot more wisps and its very hard to deal with them, maybe its beacuse when i play as drifter i dont have that much skills to deal with flying enemies but seriously i feel like a lot more mosnters spawn after buying dlc

[hoary sedge]

ac doesn't change anything about base spawn rates but a lot of the enemies it adds have very low credit costs so they spawn in large groups, mainly scorchers and prospectors

and if you're usually playing as drifter then yeah she doesn't have many good options for groups of flying enemies

[rapid current]

trash cube is kinda good for flying enemies

[shy halo]

i also feel like spawns got boosted, i regularly have to deal with teleporter bosses like 5 stone titans without shrine of the mountain. I thought they were supposed to start doing elites once they got enough credits for that

[dapper bison]

They definitely made the game more challenging which I kinda appreciate

[floral ore]

I'm currently trying to do the Naturopath achievement. Do y'all have any tips like best survivor and items to get? I am trying to get it with bandit because of invisibility and great base damage. I am stacking shield generator but idk if regenerating shield stops me from getting the achievement. Please help me it's so frustrating

[lavish jacinth]

shield regen and health regen don't prevent the challenge, so are both fine to take

it only counts as true "healing" if you see a green number over your head when you heal

but if you're still struggling, you can try to get an early or get some green scrap as Drifter for the regen

[floral ore]

Thx a lot I'll try

[wary tangle]

Any tips on getting the Ethereal achievement for mercenary?

[jaunty furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK1cuckL8Tk41qRaCLDxpSQ

[shy halo]

or just wait for glass+command, prioritize topaz brooch + opal since barrier damage doesn't break the challenge

[lavish jacinth]

even glass by itself is usually doable

[shy halo]

wisp

[lavish jacinth]

like I said, usually

wisps aren't that hard to deal with, unless it's with kin and/or soul

[viral minnow]

i did it with glass and soul it wasnt that hard beacuse on the map i was doing it like on cabbage video, you can just jump to the place where wisps cant reach you and the boss (it was overloading scorch worm i guess) will kill it self due to the artifact of chaos

[viral minnow]

ye its cool but when i spawn as drifter and after 20 seconds i see 5 wisps and blind pests chasing me... it can be a little annoying XD

[hearty shore]

does repurposed crater even have a red

[chilly ore]

it does

[restive loom]

Can I play online with my PC and my friends Xbox if I buy risk of rain 2 on Windows Xbox?

[high forum]

no

steam only plays with epic/steam

[lavish jacinth]

it has multiple spots, look for trees with gold leaves, the legendary chest will be nearby

[hearty shore]

just got killed by bottled chaos in the crafting room is there any way i can come back and make sure that doesn’t happen

[shy halo]

don't have bottled chaos and gesture of the drowned

[hearty shore]

how do i remove them

[lavish jacinth]

cleansing pool for gesture, scrapper for bottled chaos

if you're still in that area you could combine chaos with empty elixir bottles, or offer it to spex and not pick it back up

[hearty shore]

im on command

spex already kicked me out

[lavish jacinth]

not much you can do then

other than go back to spex and try to give him bhaos before you accidentally kill him, I guess

[hearty shore]

does clover still affect sale star

i had 11 sale stars and 2 clovers and i still got 2 from a large chest

[trim lynx]

clover doesnt affect sale star in vanilla

[marble osprey]

It's supposed to but is bugged rn so it doesn't

[lapis wolf]

Hi, can someone give me a guide on the artifacts that came with the latest DLC?

[shy halo]

artifact of prestige, makes shrines of the mountain persist between stages and guarantees at least 1 shrine per stage.
code is found in ||iron alluvium, a stage 3 map||

[agile dirge]

hi new player here, i just beat monsoon but didn't get the achievement. I beat mithrix and escaped on the ship but at the summary end it didn't mention any achievements or anything. I checked my logbook and don't have purity. Any ideas why? i restarted my game too to see if that would fix it but it didn't. I can see on my run history i beat the game on monsoon too

[jaunty furnace]

were you a drone

[agile dirge]

i was bandit so no

sorry for the trouble, got it fixed

[rapid current]

it reallly good on command runs

[icy siren]

Is there rare skin chances for spare drone parts perchance?

[mellow crystal]

there's a 10% chance for the minigun to be (cosmetically) replaced by an arm holding a gun

[icy siren]

You are amazing I never knew this got like 200 hours in and I never saw it before

[jagged dragon]

how do i become better at the game lol

[jaunty furnace]

loot the whole stage

dont blitz through stages

[viral minnow]

learn how to dodge attacks, limit lunar items usage (you can use them but do not make them base of your build), dont worry much about time, however try to get 1 item per minute

also (i didnt try it yet but i wanna) eclipse is good for learning the game i guess

[mellow crystal]

1 item per minute is misleading btw

THE goal is looting the entire stage without taking too long

1 item per minute is just a guideline to follow if you truly need one to follow

[viral minnow]

ok

that makes sense beacuse i sometimes had like 3 chests and 3 multishops close to each other and the rest of the map didnt had any lol

[rapid current]

player spotted

[viral minnow]

well when i first time picked up ... IT WAS MY FIRST AND LAST TIME XD

[hearty ivy]

There's no other good items though

Id go so far as to say egocentrism is the only real item

[keen thistle]

What are the best items for CHEF?

[rotund obsidian]

is plasma bolt good

[lavish jacinth]

it's not awful but flame bolt is generally better just because exists

flame is also better single-target damage, plasma has better AoE but arti has a lot of that already

[livid wedge]

Both are fine but flame bolt is better if you have sotv

Or at least potentially a lot better

[jaunty furnace]

better either way

flame bolt still has a lil explosion radius

[livid wedge]

I just want to make the point that we shouldn't discard plasma bolt as an option when it's perfectly viable

[marble osprey]

It's been a minute since I played chef, so take this with a grain of salt
He uses most items pretty well, he's a decent all-rounder
He likes using all of his abilities off cooldown, kinda like merc or arti, so any kind of cooldown reduction is good
Luminous shot is very nice, both for the cdr on the secondary and his primary deals pretty solid single-hit damage which makes luminous shot hit pretty hard
Ignition tank is obviously really strong if you're using fire secondary, but I prefer ice for the freeze
Haven't really used him since the new dlc launched, but I'd imagine the new collectors compulsion item is pretty good on him, it's decent in general and should synergize with his passive to have the buffs up more consistently
He can apply 2 debuffs in base, so it's pretty easy for him to make good usage of deathmark

[merry nest]

why cant the transport drone stay flying when carrying someone if it can carry 100 tons

[south egret]

it literally does, no?

[shy halo]

read the funny image

[rapid current]

does prayer beads make u weaker if u dont trow them away

[lavish jacinth]

no

[rapid current]

is staking a ton of prayer beads wit ego and no other items a good idea

[lavish jacinth]

Never tried it but I can't imagine it would be bad

[rapid current]

doesent prayer beads inkrease all ur stats inkluding ego dmg

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

well, specifically it's not ALL stats, just health, base damage and regen, but ego scales off of base damage

[hearty shore]

can junk drones/salvage give you lunars with eulogy zero

is that what the drifter ability is called

[livid wedge]

No, lunars are blacklisted from being temporary items

[peak holly]

Since when?

Oh wait I misread

Thought prayer beads was beads of fealty for a sec

[floral ore]

Hey guys, I've noticed that the log entries of items have a "maximum stack" and i thought that that meant you could only stack items so much. For example, my item log says that the max soldier syringe stack is 12. Although the wiki says that all items can be stacked infinitely. How does it really work and what does the in game max stack number mean?

[south egret]

the maximum stack stat is your personal best

so the most syringes you have personally had is 12

[south egret]

also, "all items can be stacked infinitely" is a smidgen misleading. There are a few items that hard cap in usefulness, and a few items that soft cap in usefulness.

lens makers caps at 10 stacks for 100% crit chance
lost seers caps at 200 stacks for 100% instakill chance
truly hard caps at 3 stacks for 1/8th tele size + just under X2.2 charge speed
sticky bomb caps at 20 stacks
basically anything that says x%(+x%) chance and that is the only stat will almost definitely hard cap

BUT there are some exceptions
tougher times stacks hyperbolically, which means each stack is not as powerful as the last. You would expect it to cap out at 7 stacks, but that only yields 51% block chance.
stun grenade stacks the same way
guillotine's execute threshold scales hyperbolically, too

so anyways, not lterally every item stacks infinitely, but generally speaking you can pick up any amount of item you want and you'll be fine

[floral ore]

Alright thx a lot. I have been stacking according to the log entries this entire time😭

[hoary sedge]

do also note that the exact number of stacks to cap x%(+x%) chance stacking items will depend on the proc coefficient of your attacks

so commandos m1 caps at 10 and at 20, but bandits shotgun needs twice as many of each to cap them because each pellet has a 0.5 coeff

crit does not work like this though, so the shotgun will still have a 100% crit chance with 10

[rapid current]

should i get ego on eklipse 7

[high sedge]

ego doesn't really get worse on eclipse

i guess e4 fucks with it since you are less likely to be able to keep away from stuff

[lavish jacinth]

you have less speed but you also have a constant death aura around you once ego gets a good amount of stacks, so it kinda evens out

the only big issue with ego in eclipse is that phase 4 mithrix is gonna be harder for melee characters, if you don't have any ranged damage then you're kinda screwed

[normal granite]

Hello, can I go multiple times to computational exchange to craft items ? I can’t find a way to go back again

[lavish jacinth]

killing alloy worship unit or false son will spawn a portal to computational exchange

[normal granite]

I need the other dlc to false son ?
And ok thank’s you

[gentle ruin]

Is it worth it to fight false son without aurelionite? Didn’t realize faraday spurs make the fight very doable on e4+

[subtle lion]

how much atg missiles until caps?

[high sedge]

ATG has no cap since the only part that scales is the damage, which is a completely linear increase

[subtle lion]

ohh

[high sedge]

if you think you can do it then you might as well, it's a set of soups + 4 large chests with a chance for star and a guaranteed path to conduit canyon
I don't think spur is an item you want though since if you have too much charge it can just kill you since you really don't want the increased jump height for the fight in the slightest

[gentle ruin]

I had a good run last night with arti, didn’t need to jump during the fight. With a single goat hoof and spurs I had enough speed to fully dodge the dash

I figured I’d ask since I rolled bad on all my greens and soups while I was there

[rapid current]

is prayer beads supossed to give u health regen

i have 17 and i don feel like i have a lot of regen

i have 2 k health on merk

3k*

[lavish jacinth]

17 in your inventory or 17 that you've scrapped?
and either way it probably wouldn't feel like a lot with 3k health, it's a small flat regen buff

[shy halo]

regen is a level up stat so yes

but max hp also is a level up stat so that is still something

[livid wedge]

Regen normally will not keep up, either

It increases by 20% per level while health and damage go 30%

[zealous sky]

just to ask somehow one of my friends managed to get a void reaver on our team?? im just wondering how (we have no mods)

[lavish jacinth]

or

[zealous sky]

ok thank you

[teal grotto]

How do I do expose transfer on Mercenary?

[jaunty citrus]

Does getting only the bulwark's ambry teleporter to spawn in sky meadow just luck or can I somehow make it so I can actually get to the moon without looping?

[teal grotto]

The Bulwark's Ambry teleporter always spawns on any Stage 5 you get. You just have to know the artifact code at it and activate the terminal

[jaunty citrus]

But I had times where I did found normal teleporters alongside the usual one at the bottom

I assume from that answer is that it is random

I'll look it up and see for myself later

[lavish jacinth]

stage 5 always has a normal teleporter and the artifact teleporter

(technically it's the primordial teleporter instead of the normal one, but it's mostly the same)

to get to the moon all you have to do is use the normal teleporter without leaving through a portal or realigning the prongs around its edge

[lavish jacinth]

you have to use your dash or m2 on the first few frames of the sword's 3rd swing

the timing is pretty tight, and having too much attack speed can make it harder (although 1 or 2 syringes is fine)

[jaunty citrus]

Yeah I read about that, the issue is that I managed to get multiple runs with no normal ones appearing at all

[lavish jacinth]

you just didn't find it then

it's always there, although it can be hard to spot sometimes

[teal grotto]

ty

[lavish jacinth]

turning on teleporter particle scaling in settings can help, under that umbrella settings thing on the first page

[zealous sky]

i asked my friend and they didint have either of those and there talking about an item that would give them a gift or something? just confused

we checked the logbook

[lavish jacinth]

were either of you playing engineer, and did you have ?

[zealous sky]

no they were playing captian

[lavish jacinth]

oh huh

[zealous sky]

it also corrupted all there lens maker glasses

[lavish jacinth]

wait, so did they have larva

because if they had one and died with it, it would've converted all of their boss items to zoea

[zealous sky]

yea

they are talking abot some item when activated would give them a gift anything like that?

nvm we found the run

it was larvea

thank you for helping sorry for bothering you :)

[lavish jacinth]

Lol np

[shut herald]

hi im the person :D

[zealous sky]

yup

[marble magnet]

Why specifically can you freeze the devastater and no other regular boss (technically False Son is a final boss, and Mithrix IS a final boss)

[peak holly]

I’m not sure if they are champions though, if they are well yeah that’s an outlier but maybe they aren’t and that’s why

[marble magnet]

Is that what Mithrix and the other 'final bosses' are? Champions?

Didn't know that

[peak holly]

I don’t know about mithrix and false son and the like, but champions are usually your vagrants, beetle, queens, stone titans etc

Regular tp bosses

[late tapir]

hey i’m just starting this game and im wondering how people make their runs last so long, after a little i run into the final boss and my run ends, does anyone know how to go on longer?

[peak holly]

Interact with the teleporter on stage 5 to loop

It will say a message in the text space that’s it’s aligned with the planet so you know when you’ve done it

[late tapir]

ohh is it that like kinda spiky thing around the normal teleported

teleporter

[peak holly]

Yep

Or

You can enter a code into the artifact generator

The codes are found on tablets hidden on stages

[late tapir]

what stage is that on?

[peak holly]

Stage 5

Both are

[late tapir]

oh okay

[peak holly]

Just two different methods of looping

[late tapir]

alright thanks a bunch

also can you loop more than once?

[trim lynx]

yeah

[stuck venture]

is it possible to infinitely reroll items with a recycler if i have a printer and a scrapper?

[frosty reef]

Yep. Just gonna take a bit with recycler cooldown

[shut herald]

yea it works ive done it 30 times in a row before :D

[viral minnow]

is it normal when i cant get desperado stacks on bandit while i have ice band active?

[lavish jacinth]

If the band damage gets the kill, it won't count towards desperado

[tribal crypt]

it's really nice when you stack a ton of fuel cells cause then it takes a few seconds each

[shut herald]

yea I had like 3

[jovial valley]

I'm trying to turn on aim assist on pc because I'm complete ass at railgunner with m&kb and I'd like to save my wrists from using the mouse.

So I went into the settings and maxed out Input Aim Assist Sensitivity and Trajectory Aim Assist Sensitivity, started a game, and.. there is literally no aim assist at all?

Is this a bug?

[jovial valley]

I have discovered that aim assist does not work with M99 and HH44.. but they do with her specials

[jaunty furnace]

incredible

[marble magnet]

Hey how does pearl affect items like bison steak? Because uh doesn't stone flux which is also a health boosting item boost bision steak?

[lavish jacinth]

it's an overall health multiplier, so yeah, it'll affect steak and stuff

[marble magnet]

I see I see

[harsh grail]

okay genuinely how do you play engineer

[mellow crystal]

you find a piece of high ground to place your turrets on then support them with your own damage mostly

[viral minnow]

find bungus and you won the game

[mellow crystal]

if you don't have harpoons unlocked then you're better off using bubble shield reactively or in response to a specific projectile enemy, rather than just plopping it down with your turrets

[viral minnow]

[jaunty furnace]

healing will not, in fact, carry your run

ever

[viral minnow]

but turrets can heal themselves

[jaunty furnace]

healing isnt damage or defense

it should be your last line of defense

[viral minnow]

i know but bungus is just cool on engineer

[mellow crystal]

image of the 500 buzz lightyear toys on shelves

[lavish jacinth]

unlocking his alt secondary and utility helps a ton

but other than that yeah, it's mostly down to using your turrets effectively

[vague brook]

does anyone know why multiplayer lobby on my end looks buggy and when the game starts my screen froze to a fixed angle? i have a few mods that im not sure which one is causing problem. not sure if this question is suppsed to be here.
(seems like i can't send images for now, but i have my r2modman code under.)
019ced45-d125-b571-0cd6-fdc0e2364b52

[lavish jacinth]

you can post images if you get a role, #roles
#ror2-modding might be a better place to ask, but the first thing to check would be if your modlist is the same as whoever's hosting/joining, if you're running any mods that aren't clientside

[marble magnet]

Can Operator with hardlight afterburner firewall skip pillars?

[vague brook]

is there anyway to check if a mod affects multiplayer? i tried disabled all mods that has server side in desc but seems like they are not the culprit. im not hosting a game too just hopping on random public lobbies

[lavish jacinth]

on the mod page, check if it says clientside or not

if it does, then you should be able to use it in multiplayer without issues, but if not then it'll need to be disabled or shared

iirc serverside just means that the mod will work for everyone even if only the host has it

[drowsy dome]

Can huntress' ballista be unlocked on eclipse? I've been trying runs with different strats to try and counteract the E1 modifier but I can't seem to pull it. Transcendence was my best bet but it didn't work out (For context, I'm running eclipse only on a fresh file)

[high forum]

well, shields count as part of your health pool so that wouldn't have satisfied the unlock anyways

[worldly olive]

Transcendence doesn't work with it

At least in older versions, shield counts as regular health

Barrier "doesn't", though if you're gonna try and unlock it via eclipse your best bet is to loop enough to the point where you can just kill everything w/o any issue (w/o Command it is pretty damn hard to get a good barrier build by stage 3)

[livid wedge]

Barrier does count as health but it's additional health, so at full barrier, you'd be at 200%

I learned the the hard way going for one of rexs challenges

[full loom]

So why my progress getting deleted sometimes?

[lavish jacinth]

known bug, unfortunately

[full loom]

Annoying😔

[coral flint]

whats the best ability loadout for Acrid

[marble osprey]

Largely up to personal preference, besides poison > blight
I prefer all default abilities

[jaunty furnace]

have you checked if it just switched your save

top right of main menu

[rotund obsidian]

is that counted in m:s or h:m

[trim lynx]

hours minutes iirc

[cloud field]

is it random what are the enemies at void fields?

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much, it works like other stages where there's a set pool of monsters it can pick from, and it'll pick harder ones depending on difficulty scaling

[tardy arrow]

How do I fight the issue with high ping

is there any mods available to fix it?

[jaunty furnace]

are you living far away from the one hosting the lobby

[full loom]

Im a console player if it changes anything

[visual brook]

When will a fax machine try the ego and prayer beads build with

[trim lynx]

wha

[lavish jacinth]

uh

[lavish jacinth]

Probably never? That sounds pretty boring lol

Besides just testing it I guess, but I have debugtoolkit for that

[visual brook]

I used that to get rex skins

[kind nebula]

Will crossplay eventually be added to Risk of Rain 2?

[keen thistle]

Who is John Risk of Rain

[mellow crystal]

<@&559786374228738069> obliterate

[high forum]

[final needle]

why is this not working?

[stark slate]

Eclipse?

[honest hedge]

try it upside down

[final needle]

what

I tried it upside down

idk if it even matters any more because my game is not responding

rip

[stark slate]

If you are in the eclipse game mode, artifacts and Bulwarks Ambry are disabled

[final needle]

I'm in normal mode

my game does keep crashing when I tab out though, is that something I should fix by changing to windowed borderless?

[honest hedge]

you hit the laptop thing to activate the code right

[final needle]

yes I tried submitting the code

[honest hedge]

weird

[final needle]

I even tried swapping out the diamonds with cubes because I didn’t know if I was interpreting the shape right

[compact wolf]

You're not playing modded right

[final needle]

Nope

[pine inlet]

the arrow up means the code is up to bottom

wait are you on eclipse

[final needle]

Idk what eclipse is

I just did a normal run

[pine inlet]

what difficulty

[final needle]

Normal

[pine inlet]

rainstorm? the orange one

[final needle]

Yes

Is windowed mode better for avoiding crashes because this isn’t the first time

[pine inlet]

first time I hear of this too

[stark slate]

You have it set up right for artifact of kin 🤷

[final needle]

I’m going to do another run and try it again

[final needle]

trying this first

did not work

trying this now

wtf that worked

[tardy arrow]

not really, we live in the same city, but the ping gets atrocious, especially in the fights

[jaunty furnace]

are they lagging

[tardy arrow]

whoever is not the host is lagging

[hearty shore]

do survivor buffs count for growth nectar

[smoky stratus]

WHY DOES CHEF KEEP REQUIREING ME TO REUNLOCK HIM THIS IS ANNOYING

[rapid current]

risk of gup

[hearty shore]

how many times can i go to spex in one run

[loud tartan]

Hey does anyone know a good build for Drifter I wanna try some broken builds

[hoary sedge]

as many times as you loop onto sirens call or repurposed crater

[tribal belfry]

Guys I'm getting really frustrated with the void fields
Trying to beat with Mul-t on rainstorm
always feels like I'm doing great and then I just evaporate

any advice?

I don't understand how it could get harder than this

[shy halo]

crater won't spawn access nodes after solus wing is dead as far as I know

[shy halo]

loop until you are passively nuking the entire map and then go to void fields so you can sit there and kill everything without leaving the safe zone

also it can always be worse

[young geyser]

loadout build or item build?

best loadout and its not even close,

running clean up is fine if you don't feel comfortable with the cube but cube is just kinda better as long as ur decent w it.

beyblade is so bad and doesn't even feel good for how cool it should be as a for fun ability, repossess every time.

salvage is good. but being able to always have a scrapper (as the character that needs to be able to scrap the most) is good before we even get to the part where you can reroll every single printer and tri-shop effectively acting as recycler.

its recycler but better, when u get a recycler early your run is basically free unless giga unlucky

itemwise she wants the same items everyone else wants

focus crystals are amazing,

every damage% increase is amazing, watches are riskier on but still always want 1-2 bc of how %dmg increases work in this game

bandolier is actually really good at speeding up your ability to reroll and scrap and is a great early pick up

she doesn't use bands to the same level as the classic abusers (false son, loader, arty, bandit, sojurn seeker) but they're still a big increase on her.

bleed is very mediocre, I wouldn't scrap but i wouldn't dump everything into a printer.

scrap almost all greens except ones that actually actively help u.

scrap excess goat hoofs, scrap PSG's (your regen will be enough its not worth losing your 1 shot protection)

scrap any yellow that isn't bonkers

scrap any red that isn't bonkers or an investment (I.C.B.M, sonorous) the attk speed is huge.

being able to reroll every printer means ideally you find something good to dump a bunch (not all) of your scrap into for a spike that carries you through to mithrix

that's drifters biggest wincon

If you want a funny build that is enjoyable pick up a substandard duplicate and run the temporary items special its very fun but not something u can count on unless you play command or smthing

[viral minnow]

wait psg removes your one shot protection?

also thx for tips i was just looking on how to improve with drifter

[lavish jacinth]

No

[lavish jacinth]

"PSG removes one shot protection"
Bruh what fuckin year are we in

OSP is not a mechanic you should be giving a shit about

[young geyser]

it doesn't, unless its changed recently if you're below 90% combined hp u lose it, not a big deal on a 0 loop run if thats what ur planning to do. Later on there's some attacks that can fry u

[loud tartan]

Okay thanks

[stuck venture]

Does Voidling give desperado achivement?

dang it i mistook void locus with sky meadow in the bazaar

[vapid grail]

Get items that’ll help with void fog and whatever enemies you get/their items. Sometimes its just almost impossible to live with the combination of items/enemies so as soon as you see something that is way too risky (like them benefiting from a clover or getting unstable tesla coil) then leave asap

[vapid grail]

Imagine they get runalds and brilliant behemoth

[livid wedge]

Bands and behemoth don't stack

[vapid grail]

Wait really, didnt know that

[livid wedge]

Behemoth blast and band damage cannot proc one another

Since they don't have proc chances

[vapid grail]

Ah thats right proc coefficients

This was the worst combo I had and I somehow lived prob due to the enemies I got, realistically I shoulda left

[shy halo]

larva

[livid wedge]

Ouch

[rapid current]

🫡

[slim spoke]

yup the game dont want you to live outright

good news: you probably wont be slowed
bad news: youre dead

[tribal belfry]

Unfortunately I need to clear the void fields for the MUL-T achievement

[tribal belfry]

Dude I didn't even realize you could do void fields without seeing Clay Templar. I thought they were a guaranteed spawn

[rapid current]

is it a bad idead to grab 20 shaped glass when u have the artifakt that spawns ur shadow on multiplayer

[arctic charm]

yes

you would be like a god but made out of paper

[lavish jacinth]

just make sure that when it spawns, you're the one who shoots first

[cold falcon]

Do the eclipse and simulacrum modes have environmental logbooks?

[lavish jacinth]

simulacrum doesn't, but you can still get them in eclipse afaik

[vapid grail]

I tend to get clay templars after stage 2. Whenever I do void fields directly after stage 1 I tend not to get them. Just make sure to prioritize repulsion armor plates to be safe

[livid wedge]

Mods

Also, please change that name

[young geyser]

what's wrong with Catpip as a name?

[final needle]

does picking up a lunar coin count as picking up a lunar/void item for Commando's 20 stages without those items?

[high forum]

no it does not!

[final needle]

tyty!

[final needle]

if i get gold orb and blue orb, which should I go in?

[shy halo]

there is almost always an accessible newt altar for every stage, gilded coast access is entirely rng based

[final needle]

okay thanks

[woeful shadow]

yo I just got back after like

a half a year break how do I beat this new DLC boss

[mellow crystal]

you mostly have to just pay attention to your positioning
always try to stay near a ramp so you can avoid the big ring, use the rails to avoid the laser if you don't have enough movespeed to outrun it (you can outrun it with just a sentry key + mocha while sprinting btw), and always try to stay near the vertical middle of the arena so you can react to laser grid

also it's good to remember that it only ever uses laser grid two times after you destroy a weakpoint

[woeful shadow]

Thank you is there like any special gimmick that'll make it easier or something?

[north granite]

If you can break all 4 (or at least 3 of) the weakpoints at around the same time, you'll skip to final phase with coolers and heaters..

With that final phase, if you're able to break just coolers while keeping the heaters alive you'll roast the boss

Usually the coolers form as one at bottom of arena followed by a string of two more coolers ascending a path you can use to outrun laser and remain cool

Be observant of the boss's moves during this phase especially if you do plan to abuse heaters as a damage source since they will still hurt you if you're outside the cooler aoe yourself

And ofc, if you're not confident with using heaters as a damage source you can still destroy them for better arena control

But prioritize coolers first since they allow the boss to spam moves quicker

[cloud field]

I ahve a question: Which stages can spawn rex?

have*

[lavish jacinth]

Abyssal depths

[cloud field]

ok thx

[wicked yew]

if i entered the final stage, can i still continue the loop or is it just gg?

[livid wedge]

You can go to voidling but you cannot continue any further

[wicked yew]

so ig i messed up

[timber grail]

why is multiplayer not working for me?

[marble osprey]

Having either symbiotic scorpion or the new networked suffering red kinda hard counters the boss
Most of it's tankiness comes from really high armor, so scorpion lets you take that away and deal tons of damage
And networked suffering can put all the points into the same damage pool, making them all take damage whenever you damage one making it much easier to destroy all of them quickly and at around the same time
It also used to have a bug that basically instakilled the boss as soon as you destroy one of the weak points, but I believe that was patched out already. Could be wrong, but still a very good red for that boss either way

[mellow crystal]

i wouldn't really say scorpion counters solus wing

swing has 1000 armor and loses 250 per weakpoint

so even on commando or double nail mul-t, with any realistically-achieved-in-a-run firerate scorp is just "oh you killed the last/2nd-to-last weakpoint, you're dealing 5 billion damage now"

[shy halo]

well solus wing's AI breaks if you just break line of sight with its centerpoint despite it's massive sprite/hitbox

[mellow crystal]

that's an ai thing not a scorp thing

[shy halo]

squat behind a pillar and poke it to death

[marble osprey]

The runs I've had with scorpion against wing have basically let me ignore the weak points entirely and just attack the main body

[shy halo]

you would think that they would just use direct percent damage mitigation or something

[mellow crystal]

you need to drop its armor from 1000 to 300 to make the DR go from 90% to 75% so like
idk man i think you just had stupid runs 😭

[shy halo]

so how long does it take to do 500 hits?

[mellow crystal]

on commando with no items 83s

[shy halo]

so how long does a regular non-loop solus wing fight take?

[marble osprey]

Ok but then taking it down from 300 to 0 makes it go from 75% to 0%

Like we're not just gonna stop at 300

Even just going from 90 down to 75 is a 2.5x damage boost, anyway

[viral minnow]

are mult's scrap luncher and power saw bad?

[mellow crystal]

Not reallym nailgun is just really good and double rebar is a really easy to use powerful option

Scrap overall is really solid
Power saw though is

An ability

Power saw kinda just turns up nailgun's strengths and weaknesses to 11

[glossy flare]

Just curious, does anyone know if there are any cross platform plans?

[jaunty furnace]

no

[wary lintel]

how do you win as bandit at monsoon (I'm not good with him I just like the gameplay LOL)

[shy halo]

shoot the enemies till they die and stuff

[lavish jacinth]

and full loot stages

[marble osprey]

also avoid letting them do the same to you

[blissful grotto]

guys idk will i win

wrong cha

[fast widget]

Haven't played in a while and saw alloyed collective's recent reviews were mixed. Mostly about bugs and performance. Anyone else experience what this person is talking about?

[peak holly]

Never seen that before

Or heard of it

[marble osprey]

I've heard of it but it's fairly easy to avoid by just not doing that

[jaunty furnace]

this is a common and very disruptive bug

its not a direct crash but it triggers a quintillion particles and effects so it may aswell crash on lower hardware

[fast widget]

Dang. Hope they release a patch for it soon

[jaunty furnace]

Haha yeah

[surreal socket]

when it comes to itemization, what should I focus on? I'm rather new to ROR and im not surei f having more offense is better then defensive items or utility stuff

[marble osprey]

Focus on getting movement speed above pretty much anything else, there aren't a lot of items that give move speed but it's very important
Besides that, mainly focus on offensive items. Don't completely ignore other categories, make sure you have enough healing and damage mitigation that you can deal with getting hit a bit, but mostly you want damage
As you get more time, you'll learn when you have enough items of one category and can prioritize other things, but the only way to do that is experience

[surreal socket]

yeah ive been trying to think about what items I need or are best in the situation im in. right now ive been trying to get chef but INFUSION IS AVOIDING ME ITS SO ANNOYING, I did beat false son today tho so thats a win

[marble osprey]

you can always do a quick run with command to get that one pretty easily

[surreal socket]

oh i dont have the artifcats

i could look up a vid on how to get em

[marble osprey]

probably a good idea, some unlocks are a massive pain to get otherwise

[surreal socket]

oh yeah i just looked it up, i could see why this would be a pain

[surreal socket]

coincednetly the run I decide to do this, I get infusion

[lavish jacinth]

as a rule of thumb
damage>mobility>defense>healing
utility items are somewhere in the middle but kinda hard to place since they're usually situational

most utility items will get you more items in one way or another, so they tend to be very good to get early, but fall off the closer you get to the end of a run

[tame zealot]

just got to stage 5 at like 65ish minutes, couple magma worms running around the stage, so I keep them alive while opening all the equipment barrels and eventually find a gun and use it for merf but then tp boss is an overloading worm

do you activate tp early in this situation to see what the boss is and loot after?

[jaunty furnace]

if you tp too early you may not have enough money for the rest of the stage

or you may miss mountain shrines

[analog brook]

Tree are you trolling 😭

[peak holly]

No I really haven’t

[trim lynx]

lol

[peak holly]

Never had an issue with transport drones

[mellow crystal]

i'd just play normally and save the tricorn for later

if i have a really valuable equip like recycler or card then i'll keep it then swap it out before i do tp

[jaunty furnace]

❓

oh you mean using the macro equips while looting

[floral ore]

Does someone know what the second last log entry in the bestiary is? I have all dlcs and I've never defeated this guy apparently and still has a lock for image. It's the monster before the overloading worm.

[jaunty furnace]

guessing its solus heart

hes bugged to always appear locked before getting the book

[finite lantern]

do the CD reduction on drone parts works like Alien Head's? or getting 4 stacks just means drones get 0.5 cd since the wiki states it has linear stacking

[livid wedge]

The cd is exponential stacking

The as is linear

[finite lantern]

straight from the wiki which is why im confused

[rancid arch]

artificer mains, which secondary is better? i love playing her and ive been using nano bomb up to eclipse 4 but ive never even tried freeze bolt. is it worth using / is it better than nano bomb on higher difficulties?

[finite lantern]

personally a die hard freeze spear fan for the sole reason you can freeze mithrix reliably, which means you can stop his pizza though it wont cancel it outright

[rancid arch]

true, mithrix was the first thing that came to my mind when i thought about where spear would be better. although artificers probably dont have much trouble with mithrix anyways 😅

only the vertical slice attack can hit afaik so i havent died to him yet

[finite lantern]

only issue with spear is that it doesn't combo well with her alternate special since well, the spear has no aoe so you can only do precision strikes rather than bombarding the ground below with nano bomb

[trim lynx]

@trim lynx (making note)

[finite lantern]

i realised this after i saw looking glass calculated the CD reduction of drone parts linearly

[jaunty furnace]

freeze is very strong

executes almost anything at like 30% hp

bomb is still pretty fun though

and deals more damage apparently

[wary lintel]

Very helpful thanks

[lavish jacinth]

Bandit isn't much more complicated than that tbf
he's flexible in terms of items, he's got good procs on his primary and good burst on his special. His primary can usually take care of weaker enemies, and his game plan for bigger ones is to just get behind them and unload primary and special into into their back, and if they're still alive, stick them with your knife and repeat

utility can get him in and out of fights and has some decent AoE for taking out fodder, and it can act as an extra jump

and otherwise, standard monsoon strats

always full loot, keep moving and avoid getting hit wherever possible, prioritize damage, speed and defense, in that order

[lavish jacinth]

also protip, unlock his alt special
lights out is fun but scales really poorly once enemies start getting tanky

[surreal socket]

for getting acrid, whats the best way of doing it? do you do it early or loop and then do it

[lavish jacinth]

the most consistent way would be to loop until you're strong enough to nuke everything effortlessly, but it can be done earlier if you don't feel like looping

void fields is very rng-heavy so it's hard to say exactly what you'll need, but bare minimum is enough mobility to make it between cells without dying (you don't need much) and a reliable way to heal

[surreal socket]

ahh ok

I just unlocked mults scrap launcher, is it any good?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, it's alright

[stuck venture]

how do i get the most speed when using loader?

[noble skiff]

goat hooves, energy drinks, mocha

mocha is kinda ight on loader though

[jaunty furnace]

git gud at grappling hook

you can sprint while grappling to go faster

holding your shift also makes you faster cause of weight or smth

[lavish jacinth]

movement speed doesn't affect grapple movement, so it's not really that important

[stuck venture]

im playing a run with a remote caffeinator with 2 icbm 8 fireworks and i got 4 boss items and all of them were ass, 1 genesis loop and 3 DEFENSE NUCLEUS 1 from trophy hunter and 2 from boss drops

[jaunty furnace]

using trophy hunter on that boss was Probably Not Your Best Decision

unless there was nothing else to shoot

[viral minnow]

its kinda hard but you can graple pylon as soon as you deploy it and then you can get its momentum

[viral minnow]

*can

[noble skiff]

oh it doesn't?

[marble osprey]

Still nice to have for when you don't have your grapple up tho until you get some backup mags or some cooldown reduction

[marble osprey]

I find that if you press both buttons at almost the same time it usually works
If you use a charged punch at the same time the momentum from all three stacks and you can go across the entire stage fairly easily

[trim lynx]

fixed, ty for spotting

[surreal socket]

is chefs ice move good? or is his burn one better

[hoary sedge]

they're both quite good

ice is probably overall stronger but there's not really a wrong choice

[jaunty furnace]

freeze is strong

completely stops enemies and executes them at low health

but fire is still usable

[surreal socket]

oh like artifciers one

[jovial ivy]

Can sticky bombs activate atg?

[marble osprey]

no, it has a 0 proc coefficient so it can't activate other things

[jovial ivy]

That stinks

[marble osprey]

it'd be too strong to be a white item if it did i think

[primal coral]

what does obliterating yourself do? im pretty new and my first deep run went on for like 90 minutes or so til i saw a blue portal and went in, and i obliterated myself at the altar for an achievement but i dont know if that actually did anything or if its just a way to end a run manually after a long time

oh also is there a way to hide the inventory at the top of the screen?

[hoary sedge]

it's basically just an alternate run ending yeah

[primal coral]

oh okay

[hoary sedge]

if you have beads of fealty then it takes you to a fight with a unique scavenger that drops a bunch of lunar coins but it still kinda just ends after that

[primal coral]

gotcha

[primal coral]

is there anything i can do about the inventory?

[hoary sedge]

think the only way to do that in vanilla is disabling hud

i think you might also be able to change ui scale in settings and if you're on pc there are clean ui mods you can use

[primal coral]

i am on pc but all the clean ui mods i saw change everything else too, and i actually prefer the vanilla ui lol

ill probably just have to look through more mods

[urban drift]

hey guys , im kinda new to ror2 , what's the best way to move in general , i keep getting killed by hoards of mobs , i dont know how to dodge tbh i dont know the best way to avoid damage in general

[lavish jacinth]

jumping and circlestrafing is usually enough to keep you safe from fodder mobs, and you can juke past them up close since most enemies have limited turn speed or melee attacks you can bait out. And ofc never stand still

having drones or other minions also helps a lot since they'll draw aggro

[urban drift]

ive seen this message alot but i keep moving and still get hit alot

should i invest in movement speed , feathers and wax quails?

i play railgunner

sorry caps

[lavish jacinth]

you don't need a ton, but you should absolutely get mobility items, it's the second most important thing behind damage

railgunner in particular gets swarmed easily but she does have a decent escape tool with mines

CC items like help a lot too

[urban drift]

oh ok

thanks

[lavish jacinth]

np

oh, and reliable damage mitigation is also really good to have

[rapid current]

should i get recicler or deus ex machina on e7 i have atg and eletric bumerang

and i have 1 fuel cell

[lavish jacinth]

boomerang is insane with deus ex, I'd go with that unless your other items are terrible and you really need better ones

[rapid current]

i just got an uke and i also got lucky bc i got a pearl on the first stage

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I'd go with deus, assuming you're confident that you'll hit the parry

[rapid current]

idk how but my laser burst somehow proc 3 atgs

[rapid current]

bro i died on a god run bc of fall dmg on e7 😭

[gentle ruin]

Anyone know if there’s a way to start a run at the stage with the False Son fight? I wanna try practicing the fight but idk if there’s a mod or some kind of debug menu that can help with that

[lavish jacinth]

debugtoolkit mod

[gentle ruin]

Thanks!

[primal coral]

whats the difference between leaving expansions enabled vs giving them a gold outline?

[high forum]

that's more for multiplayer purposes. it's a vote. click once for the gold outline and it's a vote for 'on' and click again to turn the outline red and it's a vote for 'off'

[visual verge]

any chance i could generate junk in the bazaar ?

[narrow pine]

hit newt a bit

[visual verge]

thank you, it worked

[surreal socket]

I've been getting to mithrix more consistently as I have gotten better at cutting time, but when I get to him I feel like sometimes I am weak in that stage

ive thought about trying monsoon, but Idk if I should if im still struggling on the rainstorm difficulty

[shy halo]

mithrix will just about always 1 shot you and spams his teleport thing

[surreal socket]

oh no matter how insanely strong you are? just is learning the pattern and taking little dmg as possible?

[shy halo]

well you can outscale him since enemy level is capped to 99 in standard mode and then just obliterate him in one hit

but that usually takes multiple loops

[surreal socket]

ahh, just better to learn how to dodge his shit

[shy halo]

but evasion is pretty much your only defense if you aren't looping

[surreal socket]

nah, i havent been

i didnt know you could loop and fight him, i thought once oyu looped you were like stuck in it

until obliteration or whatev

[shy halo]

primordial teleporter is always set to moon by default and is the only way to commencement

[surreal socket]

ahh ok

[marble osprey]

Normal enemy level is capped at 99, mithrix has boss scaling and will continue to scale his hp and damage beyond that
You can definitely outscale him but that's just because you scale faster with items than he does, not because he stops scaling

[marble osprey]

Depends on his attacks, he has a fast swipe that is really hard to avoid, which doesn't deal much damage, but any of his other moves absolutely need to be avoided and can be avoided consistently

[primal coral]

is the bandit considered very strong? i feel like i have the easiest runs by far whenever i play him vs the commander or hunter

he kind of just shreds mobs and bosses even with very little items

[surreal socket]

yea, i might look at that pinned message again and see if itll help

[vagrant spade]

question do the certain dlc bosses give certain ones of the mastery skins?

[shy halo]

any non-death ending on monsoon should qualify for mastery

[vagrant spade]

what about the prime medrian ones? do like the voiding monster and mithrix also give thoses

[shy halo]

any non-death ending on monsoon

[vagrant spade]

Okay. thanks/

[young geyser]

he is good, better than mando for sure and arguably better than huntress

Huntress might feel better if you use her alt-special if u haven't already unlocked it. Her default one is genuinely awful relative to ballista

[surreal socket]

is chefs alt util better

[jaunty furnace]

no

unless you hate roll or something

[surreal socket]

no I love it

[jaunty furnace]

or you love alt more

[surreal socket]

I need to unlock his other alt cause ive heards its very good, but this seems annoying as hell lol

[mellow crystal]

He's quite strong but compared to all the other survivors he's on the lower end of strength
He's just the first taste new players get of a high damage character

[cinder pasture]

how many people here run glass on merc?

[viral minnow]

you mean artifact of glass?

[cinder pasture]

No the thing that cuts your health in half

And doubles your dmg

[viral minnow]

then i dont do it beacuse im not very good at merc XD

sounds fun tho, his i frames and dmg

[trim lynx]

i dont because i find it boring imo

[cinder pasture]

Play merc?

[trim lynx]

glass on merc

[cinder pasture]

Any reason why?

[high sedge]

glass is such a large damage boost that it trivializes the game

[trim lynx]

i already wish enemies were tankier

[viral minnow]

you dont need hp when no one can hit you👍

[rapid current]

and 6 purities

[mighty tree]

why when i play with my friend i get delay so much?

[high sedge]

the game doesn't have particuarly good netcode, and the peer 2 peer system means there's a lot of verification that delays updates on the client's machine

[jaunty furnace]

the game uses peer2peer, meaning the game is run on the lobby host's computer
so if the host is lagging/has bad internet/lives far away from you then you may lag

[mighty tree]

ty

[rotund obsidian]

if the dlc comes out, im praying captain gets an unlockable secondary

[rapid current]

should i get a fire band or a noxious thorn im doing fs and i kan kill the enemies really fast and im on stage 5 and wont be looping ( im on e7 )

and i kan regurlaly proc

and i have pillar skip

[lavish jacinth]

which survivor are you

[rapid current]

false son

[lavish jacinth]

fire band, you won't have much use for thorn against mithrix

[marble osprey]

False son has two good band procs with his hammer slam and alt special, and fire band can be used to skip mithrix's final phase where he steals your items

So yeah def fire band

[final folio]

should i get the game with all of its dlcs since they are on sale or should just get the main game first

[lavish jacinth]

The dlcs are all worth getting, but get the base game first and see if you like it

[final folio]

aight thx

[bronze cosmos]

sotv and ac are worth getting imo (not sots)

[jaunty furnace]

you may get overwhelmed by the amount of stuff

and a lot of dlc enemies are pretty annoying

so do base game first

if you really want to start with more stuff then get sotv

[shy halo]

blind pest, child, larva, scorch worm, solus distributor, solus scorcher

[viral minnow]

ok after alloyed collective i realy feel like spawn rates are at least doubled after playing a few runs, i feel like im playing with artifact of swarms, also on one level i had only stone golems lol, any of you also have noticed it?

[mellow crystal]

a lot of the alloyed collective enemies have really low credit costs for how tanky or dangerous they are
which essentially means they're spawning twice as often as they realistically should

[midnight scaffold]

any advice for playing drifter? seems really fun but in end of run bosses she feels... kinda clunky when i cant generate junk super well

[marble osprey]

having some backup mags and luminous shot lets you use your secondary much easier without requiring junk, and luminous shot also is good damage itself since your bag swings deal solid single-hit damage

and neither of her specials are ones that you really want to be using in the middle of a fight

[marble osprey]

also, any yellow item can be turned into cooldown reduction to make this even easier

[midnight scaffold]

oh yeah forgot that bit. but cant believe i forgot about backup mags

[marble osprey]

i feel like a lot of people don't know luminous shot decreases your secondary's cooldown too since the other thing it does is so much more obvious

[wintry fjord]

Any advice on how to do the operator getting a Lemurian 10 seconds in the air

They keep dying

I have no damage items other than the bouncing fin thing

[shy halo]

its an elder lemurian, I did it by getting a lot of fire rate and then just pinning one to the ceiling after nanobugging

[wintry fjord]

It does too fast

*dies

[shy halo]

don't use s2

[wintry fjord]

So don't use cross hairs

[lavish jacinth]

literally all you need

[wintry fjord]

Ohhhhhh

🤦‍♂️

[fringe eagle]

Can I get false son in multi player mode or only single player?

[shy halo]

i think multiplayer since its not like the fight is locked

[fringe eagle]

Ok

[viral minnow]

but its not ac enemies, normal enemies spawn rates also are higher than before XD

maybe its beacuse i have mods but i dont have any mods that modify spawn rates, only some quality of life mods

[stuck venture]

does a preon accumulator instantly fire when picked up?

[livid wedge]

Maybe if you have

Otherwise, no

[stuck venture]

im watching cabbage to nohit a prismatic trial and he used a preon accumulator instantly to destroy one time crystal and didnt get 140 seconds cooldown

[lavish jacinth]

did he have

[stuck venture]

nope

it just loaded up when he picked it up then shot at a time crystal

[lavish jacinth]

you could just ask cabbage, he's usually active in #prismatic-trials I think

[stuck venture]

which item is better on bandit? I have a and 2 : or or ?