ror2-game-questions

[serene flare]

do more bands lower the cool down?

[lavish jacinth]

no, stacking increases their damage

[obtuse mulch]

thats what i thought but i did😛

[serene flare]

does that go for most of the items in the game?

[lavish jacinth]

well then

[lavish jacinth]

usually yeah

[obtuse mulch]

i know, not a clue. must be some unseen bug

[lavish jacinth]

it varies by item but damage is probably the most common thing that gets stacked, at least for procs

[lavish jacinth]

which acrid unlock was it?

[obtuse mulch]

pandemic

[lavish jacinth]

huh
yeah, no idea lol

[empty bone]

is attack speed helpful on railgunner at all

for his right click i mean, does it make the cooldown quicker?

[left trellis]

it makes the reload bar move faster, meaning you reload quicker overall

[empty bone]

is it generally considered worth it?

or is it better to just scrap syringes and make damage items

[left trellis]

it's less of a DPS increase than other damage sources but has the upside of allowing you to take out multiple targets quicker

crowbar is great but 5 crowbars vs 50 lemurians doesn't help you. but 5 syringes does, since you can fire more shots overall

-# (not that spamming m2 against a crowd of lemurians is the optimal way for rg to deal with them, but this is mostly as an example)

[empty bone]

okay thanks thats good to know

i wasnt sure if it was an attack speed thing or a cooldown thing

i had brainstalks and unfortunately it didn't seem to let me shoot constantly

[left trellis]

nah, it doesn't really have a cooldown in the way other skills do; the reload mechanic is its "cooldown"

the only way to shorten it is atkspd

[simple coyote]

attack speed also scales animations, charging, and some other things. ie. bandit’s revolver wind-up, arti spear charge, and of course the reload (the active reload still has the time timing though, it doesn’t speed up, don’t worry)

[solid lantern]

Is acrid base game or survivors of the void

[simple coyote]

base game (and void fields as a whole, nothing else void tho)

[primal vector]

Void reavers are basegame

[zinc turtle]

which 2 monsters am I missing here?

[simple coyote]

solus wing and heart

[zinc turtle]

gotcha. what's the reccomended amount of clovers to come into the boss with to have a high chance of getting the log entry?

[jaunty furnace]

the more the merrier

wing isnt chance based though, you have to find it

[glacial knoll]

keep in mind even 50 clovers is a 20% chance to not get it

[zinc turtle]

yikes

[simple coyote]

they don’t work like that >:3

s.wing is located somewhere on the map.
s.heart is. I actually don’t know. but I don’t see anyone complaining about it so I imagine it just happens

[jaunty furnace]

also unsure if heart can drop it in eclipse

[serene flare]

Not really since she’s more a one shot character

[tribal ermine]

can someone help me on how to play false son

i know what items to get and everyone says the character is s tier but i struggle to do much on him really

[hoary sedge]

do you have the alt special, laser burst

if not you should unlock it and if you have it you should use it, it's kinda the thing that makes his gameplay loop broken strong

bc it's a very high damage hit that gives you half your spikes, and you get more stocks from growth, once you have a couple growth stacks you can just spam your m2, shoot 2 laser bursts, and then keep spamming m2 and repeat

which is particularly strong with alt m2

[tribal ermine]

i have ult r and m2

[hoary sedge]

you also really want total damage procs on him bc lunar ruin is bugged and exponentially increases their damage, especially in proc chains

[tribal ermine]

i use them

[wintry fjord]

-# not to be mean but this kinda sounds like a skill or luck issue

[tribal ermine]

i get that and im really trying my hardest but its also difficult because if i dont get a quail before stone flux the run feels really difficult

[tribal ermine]

it is 100% a skill issue i got the game last week

i just dont really know what im doing

[wintry fjord]

Ooooh

[hoary sedge]

ok that makes more sense lmao

[wintry fjord]

What difficulty

[tribal ermine]

monsoon

ive beaten rainstorm pretty easily twice with loader

and monsoon feels challenging enough

[wintry fjord]

Well that's loader

[tribal ermine]

yeah true

i cant find any decent guides on false son online

most of them are just ability explanations

[tribal ermine]

.

also to add onto this if i dont get pauldron i feel really underpowered

so its either i get a quail or run feels awful for me

[hoary sedge]

what specifically do you struggle with on him then

[tribal ermine]

movement, dealing damage ig... it genuinely might just be luck

[lavish jacinth]

If you take pauldron on him you need to constantly spam lunar spikes for the speed bonus

[tribal ermine]

but his abilities feel a bit clunky kind of???

wheras i see others SHREDDING on him

[lavish jacinth]

And you can always just not take pauldron, it works well with his passive but it's not required or anything

[lavish jacinth]

No, he definitely has a certain level on clunkiness that you have to get used to

[tribal ermine]

yeah i guess

i see alot of people say hes one of if not the best survivor

so i just wanted to learn him really

[last field]

yeah seeker and false son are those types of characters where after learning them, it's hard to lose with them 99% of the time

[tribal ermine]

ive also played seeker and transcendancy is really fun with it

whats the best way to build seeker then

she/he is really fun to play

[last field]

any loadout that uses her alt m2 and base special makes seeker really good automatically

using sojourn or reprieve (the utils) is really up to you

[tribal ermine]

are procs good?

[last field]

literally anything seeker does is good

[tribal ermine]

fair enough

[bright path]

what caused this?
i have spare drone parts,playing captain with 2 junk drones

what does stacking it even give?

[hoary sedge]

deletes more projectiles per shot but im p sure junk drones can't spawn that

did you get hit by a solus item stealer guy that I don't remember the name of rn

[primal vector]

They can steal it from your drones

[hoary sedge]

yeah sorry that's more what I meant, like was there one around

[tribal ermine]

did a test run on rainstorm and was way too easy, can you look at my items and give some advice because the build started to fall off a bit before mythrix

[last field]

i mean all i can see is that you have a lot of items that arent really useful in your build

[tribal ermine]

other than the invis bracelets which were an accident what items arent useful

[last field]

bungus, lepton daisy, fireworks, monster tooth

a lot of the healing items arent really that good on seeker endgame

you also should rely on single target while also balancing out AOE< since it seems that you are more on the AOE side than single

seeker is already great at AOE because of meditate, so focusing on single target as seeker is a good choice

[primal vector]

and her third m1 is also quite aoe

[last field]

mfw seeker's meditate is bigger than the teleporter radius

[primal vector]

balance was never an option

[jaunty furnace]

why does the stats screen look different

is that what the ui looks like with super high gamma

[bright path]

yeah ig

but 4?

[lavish jacinth]

When they're holding a stolen item they'll create duplicates of it, which drop as temp items when they die

[jaunty furnace]

i would scrap these

notes:

• warhorn could be a desperate attack speed tool
• at this point firework would be scrap (unless you have ) but its good for crafting
• chance doll is useless once you go to the moon
• infusion is probably useless as well, since.. yknow..

[bright path]

i see

[primal vector]

Why would you scrap the yellows?

[lavish jacinth]

I wouldn't say Razorwire is scrap on seeker considering she hurts herself all the time with sojourn, unless you're trying to maximize crowbar/band damage

[jaunty furnace]

sure

and they have so sojourn is free lol

[tribal ermine]

im glad i knew most of this but there were NO printers on moon 😭

[jaunty furnace]

there are never scrappers, printers or chests on the moon

but there is soup

on one of the islands

multiple cauldrons of either 3 whites -> 1 green, 5 greens -> 1 red, or 1 red -> 3 whites

[wanton lotus]

I thought it was 1 red for 1 white

[jaunty furnace]

lolp

[tribal ermine]

noo i meant uh the purple stage

the one before moon

[jaunty furnace]

ah

no reason not to scrap things anyway

unless you meant that there were no scrappers

[tribal ermine]

i also meant that

it was an awful stage

[zinc turtle]

trying to finish my logbook, is there a complete location logbook somewhere, video or screenshots wise?

[nova warren]

Is Longstanding Solitude worth getting in a single player run? It’s one of my favorite items for multiplayer, but I always think of it as a support item since I fall behind on items a bit

[zinc turtle]

really? curious why you think it's good in multiplayer, doesn't it fuck up the prices for your friends?

but in single player it's one of the most broken lunars. here's eclipse 4 beaten with only 3 items

[nova warren]

Because if one person in your party has it, it changes the leveling mechanics for all players.

So they don’t get the level up based unlocks, but they do get the stronger level scaling

[jaunty furnace]

one billion levels

[mossy goblet]

is captain jotarO?

[frigid folio]

anyone know where the log for the solus wing is?

ik where the map log is but not where the boss log is, since they changed it to be guaranteed

[glass dune]

if we wanna fight the twisted scavenger do we all need to have those beads

[primal vector]

It is on the other room, below/close to the entrance

[frigid folio]

define other room

[primal vector]

at least one says the wiki

[glass dune]

thanks

[primal vector]

The other from the one where the environment is. There is the tc drone one and the cubes one

[frigid folio]

so theres a third room or are you talking about the drifter room or what

found it, thanks

[primal vector]

Here

[frigid folio]

how do hiker's boots exactly work?

is it hitting an enemy im above, regardless of if im in the air or not?

[primal vector]

Like your hitbox has to be above its hitbox

Pretty easy to trigger

[hoary sedge]

yeah hitting an enemy that you are above for any reason gives you stacks of the buff, and dealing damage at all (doesn't have to be above enemies) refreshes the timer

[tribal ermine]

still alot of improvements to make but i beat monsoon solo for the first time so ty

[jaunty furnace]

did you do mithrix

[tribal ermine]

didnt even mean to do sot but ended up doing it anyway

no sot

[jaunty furnace]

?

what is sot

[tribal ermine]

seekers of the void

[sullen basin]

tips for unlocking arti's alt secondary?

[tribal ermine]

wait

im seeing the issue

soV mb 😭😭😭

wait what is the dlc called

am i mixing 2 of them up

[livid wedge]

Mithrix is base game

[tribal ermine]

OH SURVIVORS OF THE VOID

whoops

[jaunty furnace]

sotv - survivors of the void
sots - seekers of the storm
ac - alloyed collective

[tribal ermine]

oh okay ty

i did void boss anyway is what i meant

[jaunty furnace]

how did you do voidling on stage 6,,,,

[tribal ermine]

uh newt

[jaunty furnace]

-# and why 🐱

[tribal ermine]

and it was an accident

i thought it was the pink floating stage not the void one

[sullen basin]

?

[jaunty furnace]

you mean void fields?

with the fog?

[tender temple]

He means sky meadow

[tribal ermine]

no i mean the one with the rocks

[tribal ermine]

yup

[jaunty furnace]

ah

[jaunty furnace]

what was the unlock again

[tender temple]

I don't know why you'd think sky meadow would appear after stage 5 though

[sullen basin]

boss 1s burst damage kill

[tribal ermine]

i didnt...

i got newt on stage 4, went in, thought void locus was sky meadow, did void locus for stage 5, then crab for stage 6

[livid wedge]

Tricorn

[tender temple]

Then whyd you think jt was sky meadow if it couldn't possibly appear

[tribal ermine]

since when isnt sky meadow after stage 4

[tender temple]

You said you did newt after stage 5

[tribal ermine]

no

[tender temple]

Or does locus increment stage count

[tribal ermine]

stage 4

[tribal ermine]

yes

[tender temple]

I c

[jaunty furnace]

bands are a must-have
after that, multiply your damage with general damage multipliers like etc

[sullen basin]

how do you unlock void items 😭

[jaunty furnace]

is very powerful but its not guaranteed and it make take too long to reach the target

[jaunty furnace]

dlc1

should still very much be doable without dlcs

[quartz lava]

I tried to do void fields as captain only to find out half of his kit just doesn't work there

[livid wedge]

Yup

[nova warren]

Yeah. It’s a stupid decision to put lore over game design

Literally only captain has that issue

[quartz lava]

Should I get the artifact of command to make things easier? Or does it make things to easy?

[jaunty furnace]

makes the game easier and turns the whole build managing part of the run into "click the strong item"

i wouldnt recommend it

i feel bad when i see people introduce their friends to the game by making them play and telling them exactly what items to click on

and then forcing 5 minute rule on top of that

[quartz lava]

So it makes the game way to easy?

[primal vector]

Yes and takes away the fun of trying to make it with what you randomly get

[quartz lava]

Are there any artifacts that I should get?

[jaunty furnace]

they all have achievements so if you want 100% then youll have to do em anyway

[primal vector]

Also command, kin, glass, sacrifice and swarm can become very handy for some unlocks

[pearl widget]

which drifter m2 is better

[quartz lava]

rq is the stone tablet for command in the bazaar? If not, are there any stones in the bazaar?

[jaunty furnace]

think there is one in the bazaar yes

its like. down a blocked corridor

behind some glass

[quartz lava]

I'm there rn so I want to find it

Oh I see the glass but how do I break it

[jaunty furnace]

check around the shop part maybe

you dont

[quartz lava]

oh

I think you have to go up to get it and I'm commando so I don't think I can reach it. Should I just search up the code or should I do it the intended way?

[jaunty furnace]

check behind newt

[quartz lava]

I think that's where i need to go but I don't have any way to go up

[jaunty furnace]

behind, not above

[primal vector]

There is a cool hint page in the wiki if you want to try to find them little by little https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_Hints

[quartz lava]

I think I'm blind cause I can't see it

[primal vector]

cleanup, ironically, is easier to use. Both are good though. It is a matter of preference since they are so different

[jaunty furnace]

not sure where exactly it is but its probably around there
maybe turn gamma up?

[quartz lava]

Sorry that I suck at finding things

[primal vector]

I can see it in that image, but up the brightness or something

It is just to the right of the spikes

[quartz lava]

Oh there it is

Yeah I had to turn the brightness all the way up

[jaunty furnace]

woah thats cool it looks like a reflection

[primal vector]

Others may be more difficult to find but not more difficult to see than this one

[quartz lava]

I like commando but his main issue is that his damage is pretty bad if you don't get good proc items

[quartz lava]

You've gotta be kidding me

[primal vector]

I think you can drop from above

[quartz lava]

Bro look at him

He has so much stuff on him

I just died to an elite beetle guard cause I didn't expect him to do that much damage

yay

[clear herald]

what are these items?

[sullen basin]

who do you get for obliterating yourself

oh it's merc

i'm assuming it kills my run

[quartz lava]

Yes but it is considered a win

[sullen basin]

will i be able to do this per loop?

[quartz lava]

Sorry but could you elaborate

[sullen basin]

will i be able to get through the celestial portal in every loop in one run or just once per run

[quartz lava]

I'm pretty sure that after you loop the portal will be on every 3rd stage if it has a teleporter.

[sullen basin]

okay, thanksss

[quartz lava]

I'm not an expert so I could be wrong and if so sorryyyy

But I'm 85% sure I'm right

Hey, I want to try the lfg chat to play with people but I'm nervous because I don't really like using vc plus playing with people I don't know makes me nervous.

[serene flare]

just dont talk

no one cares if you talk or not

[quartz lava]

ok

[jaunty furnace]

meal items

look around behind spex next time you visit computational exchange

[marble magnet]

Is Merc able to pillar skip with 222? (Alr secondary alt utility alt special)

[hoary sedge]

you probably need hardlight and/or a shitton of movespeed to do it without whirlwind trimping or evisc dash

i imagine it's possible but probably easier to do it with an equip

[marble magnet]

I see

Well I do have a vase but

Spare drone parts backup for Mithrix...

[jaunty furnace]

do you have any other mobility

like a spur or a headset

[marble magnet]

Just movement speed

I could get lucky with a junk drone if I just stalk but

OH I DID

[dawn portal]

If you lunar scrap the hersey items can you stop being the heretic?

[marble magnet]

shit I gotta run then me thinks

[jaunty furnace]

lol whatd you get

[marble magnet]

Spur

[jaunty furnace]

hurry the fuck up

note that spur charge scales with fps so if youre lagging try to look down while sprinting to charge faster

[marble magnet]

IM NOT GONNA MAKE ITT

[jaunty furnace]

for some fucking reason

...did you not finish the stage before picking it up?

[marble magnet]

I didn't realise I had it until saying that

[jaunty furnace]

🐱

[lavish jacinth]

no

[livid wedge]

No

[marble magnet]

It's fine if I just time it right I can pillar skip

Really easy actually mainly because I had Luminous probably

Uppercut needs more love

[jaunty furnace]

you can get higher with the trimp,,,

[mellow crystal]

yeah whirlwind + faraday spur can pillar skip on its own with a single use of m2

[marble magnet]

Uppercut is funner 💔

[jaunty furnace]

meh

not a fan

but thats subjective

[marble magnet]

I just like the loop of exposing

Uppercutting

The occasional expose dash

One of my cleanest Mithrix fights wow

[cedar wolf]

why can i never find scrappers?

[quartz lava]

That happens to me a lot too, I think it's just getting really unlucky

[cedar wolf]

deadass i get one every 9 hours

[jaunty furnace]

you can use this to observe your skill issues
https://thunderstore.io/package/Pudwinks/LostAndFound/

not 1000% sure if it shows scrappers but i dont see why not

[quartz lava]

Should I unlock void fiend by getting the void ending or by doing simulacrum?

[heavy gorge]

Simulacrum is more fun

Much easier as well

[quartz lava]

I guess I'll try it then

[jaunty furnace]

void fiend is commonly considered a meh boss and simulacrum is also kinda meh, it just gets easier due to the power of items
pick your poison

i think simulacrum has cooler vibes

4

maybe theres some shit you can do without technically using mods but 4 is the standard limit

[heavy gorge]

Though I’m pretty sure only the host of a server needs to install a player count mod

[tribal ermine]

ty for the help, just beat monsoon for the first time with false son with 2 dead teammates

[jaunty furnace]

okay why is the log unlock icon just blight

[tribal ermine]

uh idk 😭

[jaunty furnace]

what is wrong with your game 😭

[tribal ermine]

this is vanilla idk what to tell u

[south egret]

any advice for playing REX?

[jaunty furnace]

look right under your previous message

[idle mesa]

Hey i've downloaded the game today and how do i make the game easier? The teleporter bosses seem way too hard

im playing in normal difficulty

[lavish jacinth]

last night someone got an Acrid unlock while playing Operator, I think something might be slightly fucked with unlocks lol

[lavish jacinth]

#1 thing is to make sure you're full-looting stages and not rushing to the teleporter

[jaunty furnace]

the icon does look weird yeah

[idle mesa]

like really fully looting?

[lavish jacinth]

as much as possible yeah

items are how you get stronger

[jaunty furnace]

time does not matter as much as the game or some people will try to tell you

[hoary sedge]

you can also go down to drizzle to start with if you need to

[idle mesa]

hmm okay

[jaunty furnace]

loot that shit

[idle mesa]

wehat about the three item shops what to take?

[lavish jacinth]

#2 would be to never stop moving and stay aware of your surroundings, standard shooter game stuff. Playing with headphones helps a lot, most enemies have really distinct sound cues for their attacks.

Learning enemy attack patterns and stage layouts will also help ofc but that comes with experience

[jaunty furnace]

game is not a spreadsheet, that depends on many factors at that moment

[hoary sedge]

that heavily depends on the run and your character, that'll come naturally as you learn the items. generally speed and damage items are the highest priority out of those though

[lavish jacinth]

depends on what you need, rule of thumb is to prioritize damage > speed > defense > healing

in settings under the umbrella settings tab there's a thing called "enable inspect", I highly recommend turning it on as it'll let you check what stuff does before you pick it up, assuming you've had it at least once before

[idle mesa]

ohhh tysmm

[lavish jacinth]

this also includes drones btw, they can make a huge difference on early stages especially

[idle mesa]

what to do with left over money?

ohh it gives u xp for the money i c

[molten pebble]

does desperado increase damage for items that scale off of base damage? like say if i have gas that is 150% base damage and if i kill something with desperado and the gas procs, is the gas gonna do 1.5xmy base damage or 1.5x desperado damage?

[sullen basin]

how does loader's utility work??

[jaunty furnace]

what do you mean

you charge up and then do a huge punch

damage increases with speed so swing around while it charges

[sullen basin]

by charge up do you mean like grapple and gain speed

ah okay thanks

[jaunty furnace]

the punch itself has a charge up time but you can do other things while its charging

[sullen basin]

is the mid-air speed affected by any speed items or do you just need momentum via swinging

[jaunty furnace]

and you can immediately release it anyway

[jaunty furnace]

im not sure

[quartz lava]

Bro I just spent like 45 minutes beating 40 stages just to get one shot at stage 41

[heavy gorge]

Why do spite bombs have a proc coefficient? What exactly can they trigger?

[jaunty furnace]

...40 stages?

thats a lot lol

[quartz lava]

Oh in simulacrum

Was trying to unlock void fiend

keyword was

After I get the obelisk ending and get mercenary, what should I do next? Get the rest of the base game characters, Get void fiend, or do all of the sots stuff?

[jaunty furnace]

ah

thats 40 waves

[jaunty furnace]

whatever you want

[lavish jacinth]

it's based on your current velocity when you punch, and grapple movement isn't affected by move speed

[lavish jacinth]

desperado only increases its own damage, so total damage procs will scale with it but base damage stuff won't

[left forge]

This is why desperado is just better than lights out for bandit builds

[heavy gorge]

I secretly use it because I have trouble with chaining abilities together with the lights out cooldown reset

[jaunty furnace]

the problem with lights out is that bandit already has remarkably low cooldowns

if there was a giga obliterator ability with a long cooldown, lights out couldve been a nice combo tool

[solid cedar]

guys is it possible to die with pluripotent larva? i had one unused but my run still ended when i died

[livid wedge]

There are a couple enemies in AC that disable items

If you were affected by them, larva wouldn't save you

[solid cedar]

ohh i see

thanks

[tacit wind]

Aight how tf do I go about unlocking False Son? Halcyon thing + gotta go through the shrine thing to get to False Son right?
So like, do I pray I have absolutely insane RNG or do I just have to timesink into loops until everything lines up? I'm super confused cause it seems like the shrine route disappears if you don't take it

[lavish jacinth]

easiest way to do it is to just go through the bazaar, gilded coast has a decent chance of appearing in one of the lunar seers, and if you're on a valid stage then you'll get a green portal after beating it. If not, then the bazaar also has 3 hidden geodes you can break for a green portal

you can only get green portals on stages 1-3 (and maybe 5? I forget if that's still a thing, they might've fixed it)

[tacit wind]

So breaking this down, get to Bazaar stage 1, get gilded coast hopefully, then on stage 2 or 3 start the shrine?

[lavish jacinth]

you won't need to do the shrine at all if you do it that way, just take the green portal that spawns on gilded coast

[blissful anvil]

Is there a character that you would recommend someone new at the game to use to unlock items with? (I bought the dlc too)

[wintry fjord]

Does anyone know if they fixed the bug where you could skip the heaters at the start of solous wing by walking backwards

[lavish jacinth]

the starter dlc characters are all really strong (especially seeker), a lot of people have success with bandit, loader is also good if you have her

[devout nebula]

I just started and needed help on difficulty an who to use?

[wintry fjord]

Drizzle probably

[lavish jacinth]

check message right above yours

[devout nebula]

how do you unlock loader and bandit?

[lavish jacinth]

beat the secret boss on siren's call, and beat stage 3, respectively

you'll probably unlock bandit pretty quickly

[devout nebula]

whats sirens call?

[lavish jacinth]

stage 4 map

[devout nebula]

okay so i should just do drizzle with seeker and then work my way up?

[lavish jacinth]

if you want, yeah. Or just try different characters and use the one that you like the most, they're all viable

[devout nebula]

i was using railgunner she was op i just kind of suck at the game rn LOL

[wintry fjord]

-# except rex don't use that

[wintry fjord]

Gonna happen at the start of any gaming journey you'll get better tho

[lavish jacinth]

rex is also viable lol

[devout nebula]

i had a good run with seeker i dont know how to use the revive mechanic

[wintry fjord]

Idk I feel like he really really sucks

[lavish jacinth]

just use her special 7 times to get it to max stacks, that'll give you a revive for that stage

[lavish jacinth]

he's weird to use but still fine

[wintry fjord]

I find sometimes shes so op I don't need to use it 😂

[lavish jacinth]

his biggest downside is that he doesn't synergize with a lot of the "don't get hit" items like opal or safer spaces

[lavish jacinth]

*unless we're talking about e8 in which case yeah rex is awful

[wintry fjord]

Nah I'm never gonna be able to get to e8 I struggle on rainstorm

[tacit wind]

Oooooh I'm an idiot

[wintry fjord]

^?

[crude flame]

probs because youre a bandit gamer

jk i can relate im highkey jealous of ppl with e8 on every character

[devout nebula]

What’s e8?

[livid wedge]

Eclipse 8

[wintry fjord]

Eclipse 8 it's an alternative game mode that makes it harder, and there are 7 other levels each one making it harder and harder

You have to beat the game on each level to get the next level

And it's character specific

You could do e1 and e2 on commando but still need to do e1 and e2 on huntress and every other one too

[crude flame]

it’s such a grind it’s 152 runs total to get it on every character

[heady sorrel]

I mean it feels weird calling it an alternative game mode
Its just monsoon with more modifiers

Like prismatic trials and simulacrum those are alternate game modes

[wintry fjord]

Well it is in the "alternate game mode" section

[solar ice]

Is pretender's precipice bugged? I never get more than 5 chests on that stage

[wild onyx]

Is it possible for junk drone to drop cautious slug and can you use temp items to get CHEF

Edit yes it can drop it no you cannot use temp items

[wispy rampart]

Has anyone had issues with controller support? All of a sudden my partner and friends controllers aren’t working anymore specifically while in game??

It works for other games though it is just after they drop in

[solid lantern]

Does work on the alloyed collective

[simple coyote]

doesn’t work on final bosses

only critters with a boss item

[simple coyote]

voidling’s log drop is 3%, and on where he died, right?

[empty bone]

is supercharge or cryocharge generally considered better?

[simple coyote]

cryo, mostly due to the lack of downtime, but the freeze is also very big

[lavish jacinth]

they're both good

supercharge has massive damage potential

[simple coyote]

its double cryo’s sure but tbh, that doesn’t actually make much a difference

wonder if supercharge also has the aoe that cryo does

[empty bone]

wait also can you hit weak points with cryo?

[simple coyote]

ye course

[empty bone]

super says it does 150% weak point damage but cryo doesnt

so is cryo 4000% then?

[lavish jacinth]

it's way more than double

super gets an extra 1.5x damage on weakpoints in addition to being a crit

[empty bone]

ohhh really

wait okay then kind of insane then

[lavish jacinth]

the actual damage is like 13,500% if you hit a weakpoint and have perfect reload bonus iirc, plus a 3.0 proc coeff

[empty bone]

wow i did not realise it did that much

does cooldown reduction items reduce the penalty for using supercharge btw or is it always 5 secs

[simple coyote]

oh right yeah triple

didn’t know about the multiplier

[lavish jacinth]

it scales with attack speed I think

[simple coyote]

fair wnough, I literally never use it so I didn’t know

guess I’m off to try a supercharge run today

but you can’t pry big primary and boop nades from my hands

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's what the wiki says

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think anyone is arguing in favor of polar mines lol

taking polar field is like cutting off one of your legs just so that you can use handicapped parking spaces

[simple coyote]

also. what’s the exact time breakpoint for 2 bosses and 3 bosses?
it’s like 15-ish minutes and 30-ish but is there any more a specific time

[lavish jacinth]

No idea lol

Depends on difficulty but I assume we're talking monsoon

I don't think you can even determine it in an actual run since difficulty also scales with stage count, so it may be slightly different depending on when you leave stages. Plus certain bosses cost more than others so you'll get different outcomes depending on the boss pool and what the director feels like doing

[simple coyote]

oh fair enough then

[marble magnet]

Does the multiplayer data wipe still happen?

I heard about it when AC first released

[simple coyote]

no and that was sots

[simple coyote]

supercharge was ok. definitely felt the difference and 3.0. I’m more open to it now but still think I prefer no ability-lockout

[jaunty furnace]

sprint 🐱

[simple coyote]

you gonna look me in the eyes and tell me I wasn’t sprinting

[jaunty furnace]

ah the speed made it look like you werent

Pro Tip ! throwing both mines out instantly detonates the first one

[simple coyote]

yes, I should’ve done that

[cobalt quiver]

you can also do itemless pillar skip with cryo so thats another plus

[sullen basin]

is the giant drone always repairable in rallypoint delta

[frosty reef]

You can also do itemless pillar skip with super charge

[jaunty furnace]

does it always spawn? no
can any drone be purchased? yes

but some cannot be repaired on death

namely tc280 (the giant drone)

[tiny apex]

hey, a bit of a noobie here, how can I make my life easier in commencement? I always have many difficulties killing the enemies and I haven't had a run where I don't die at the last pillar in a good long time. I play on rainstorm and monsoon (I switch between them regularly)

[lavish jacinth]

Well first off, make sure you full-clear every stage up to that point and don't rush, don't follow the 5 minute rule either.
It'll make a huge difference in how strong you actually are when you make it to commencement

[jaunty furnace]

if you have good mobility (or just something like ) you can skip straight to the top

[tiny apex]

ohh, alright! I've been following the 5min rule since a lot of videos recommended it- didn't check if they were old or na though xd

[lavish jacinth]

But for commencement itself, use cover as much as you can and prioritize dealing with the flying enemies, and try to clear out the initial spawns before you start doing pillars

[tiny apex]

ohh, okay, awesome

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, it's a super old meta that was never really relevant for ror2, it was a holdover from ror1 that people clung to way too much lol

[tiny apex]

got it xd I was really scared that if I spend too much on the stages the difficulty will go to level 80 or something in the mithrix fight

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah nah, the timer is more lenient than it seems, and items are how you get stronger

A decent rule of thumb is to get at least one item per minute, but always go for a full-clear

That includes drones too

[tiny apex]

I see, I'll start getting drones as well

well, I'll go and see how my runs do now

[jaunty furnace]

monster levels could be 99 and they still wouldnt stand the power of items

[quartz lava]

Take it from an ex non full clearer, do full clears. It will make your life so much easier.

[pulsar nova]

You have like no items

How come

[simple coyote]

idk

luck of the draw?

oh I have 11 gas

[quartz lava]

Bro why

[gentle snow]

Gas is a great printer

Especially for railgunner

[quartz lava]

I mean yeah but isn't it random which one it takes?

[gentle snow]

It’s worth it to just go alll In it’s THAT good

[quartz lava]

Sorry but I don't really understand, it's not your fault I just don't really know about the meta or what's optimal.

[gentle snow]

Railgunner’s biggest weakness is swarms

Gasoline solves that weakness

[quartz lava]

Oh I get it now

[lavish jacinth]

11 is maybe a little excessive but it depends on what you traded for it

It does stack really well though, one of the few items that gets increasing returns on stacks since it increases both damage and radius

[gentle snow]

It’s not really excessive it stacks incredibly well

[quartz lava]

Will of the wisp would also help

[gentle snow]

Ignition tank is the god roll

[quartz lava]

I tried to use one of the emojis but I couldn't find q will of the wisp one

Uh ok

[livid wedge]

Wtf lol

[quartz lava]

Guess this works

[simple coyote]

I don’t remember now but basically. was banking it taking bad items, but it took the good ones. so I had nothing to lose.
I left the good drops that stage on the floor so they’d be safe and I came back for em

[lavish jacinth]

I would probably be looking for if I'm stacking on-kills though

[lavish jacinth]

Are you just now learning about will o smith

[livid wedge]

Yes

I don't use the item emotes often

[lavish jacinth]

Lol

[simple coyote]

we don’t have every item so I don’t blame you

[lavish jacinth]

It's been like that for years

[livid wedge]

I'm very unobservant

[obtuse mulch]

imj doing a captain run to unlock the skins, if i turn into the heretic can i still get character unlocks for captain?

[lavish jacinth]

No

[hoary vapor]

Easiest way to beat Naturopath?

[jaunty furnace]

[hoary vapor]

Character? I am Engineer kinda guy so...

[jaunty furnace]

"healing" usually means the effects that spawn green numbers on you

so passive regen is fine

[jaunty furnace]

anyone that doesnt heal from their abilities

[hoary vapor]

Welp looks like I am gonna need someone that I am comfortable dodging with.

[jaunty furnace]

healing should not be your first line of defense

you should always be dodging

and then using damage reduction to mitigate damage

healing should be your last priority

[hoary vapor]

I did mention I am engi player. We have no movement ability. I could try this run with the bubble but there goes like most of my early game damage.

I'm just saying I have gotten used to having Bustling Fungi on my turrets.

[lavish jacinth]

Even on engie you wanna be avoiding damage as much as you can and not trying to healtank

but yeah he's probably not the best for that unlock

[simple coyote]

gotta happen sometime

[heavy gorge]

Do gummy clones use your items?

[wintry fjord]

Nope

That'd be way too broken

[heavy gorge]

😔

Still a great item though

[unborn nacelle]

how do you beat false son

[solid lantern]

Which of drifter’s specials is better?

[solid lantern]

Honestly just follow the geode things that cleanse, hit when you need barriers or cleanses

That’s how I did it but that’s before they nerfed the fight

[unborn nacelle]

how do u dodge him

[solid lantern]

Never stop moving is how I did it

[heavy gorge]

Get mobility and lots of drones

Freeze drones are especially good but rare

[unborn nacelle]

ok

[obtuse mulch]

i think im soft locked in the artifact reliquary. no enemies are spawning and theres no artifact keys... thoughts?

[primal vector]

Are you very far in the run?

[obtuse mulch]

loop 8 i think

[primal vector]

ufff

I think they will eventually spawn, very slowly

[lavish jacinth]

Play defensive and use the pillars for cover as much as you can

[worn jasper]

How do i know what items to build, just contant trial and error?

[high forum]

yes

you learn what the items do and how they synergize

[solid lantern]

On that subject, what synergizes with drifter?

[lavish jacinth]

understanding how items actually work helps a lot, the wiki is a great resource for that (especially wiki.gg)

one really important thing to know is that damage items will almost always be multiplicative with each other, so going for item variety is way more important than stacking specific things

[lavish jacinth]

Total damage procs and multipliers are good as always, if you're using cleanup then she becomes even more flexible since the random projectiles can occasionally proc on-kill and on-interact effects

Collectors compulsion is also amazing since junk counts as a pickup

[solid lantern]

I’m running tinker as the only changed ability, I’d assume cleanup is alt utility?

[lavish jacinth]

cleanup is default m2

[raven bolt]

how do I get a good early game

[lavish jacinth]

full-clear stages

and don't rush or follow the 5-minute rule

[raven bolt]

k

[wintry fjord]

Idk if you would know this but should I be following the 5 minute rule when playing sacrifice swarms

That's the main way I play and idk how long I should spend

[lavish jacinth]

nah, time efficiency really doesn't matter at all with sac

if anything it's better to rush early stages so that you can get to later ones with enemy spawnrates

[heavy gorge]

That’s part of why I love sacrifice. You can just rush the TP.

Well you can do that anyway but there are fewer things to buy

[heavy gorge]

Yeah, you can spend an hour in stage 1 if you want and you’ll be a god anyway 😂

[hoary vapor]

Got it with Engi.

[pastel river]

how hard is it to unlock false son? im currently trying to unlock the halcyon seed

[zinc turtle]

not too bad, just depending on if you want to loop or not

[pastel river]

i only have like a total of 16 hours on the game im super confused on what the point if looping is

and what a proc chain is

[zinc turtle]

objectively, you need it to get certain achievements and unlocks. subjectively, it's fun to take your build to extremes and see how insane you can get

[pastel river]

ah i did once with railgunner with 10 crowbars and 5 armor piercing bullets was definitely fun

[zinc turtle]

you shoot something, it procs an atg, which procs boomerang, which procs bands, for example

[pastel river]

ah so its like synergy?

specific items work better with others?

[zinc turtle]

if you'd like to think of it that way. it just multiplies the damage of item damages together

synergy is more like item combos. for example gestures+tonic, or spare drone parts+empathy cores for example

[pastel river]

ah so like the atg and pocket icbm

[zinc turtle]

yeah that would be considered a synergy

[pastel river]

wow i definitely have a lot more to learn and unlock

[zinc turtle]

don't worry about it, if you're 16 hours in, just have fun unlocking items and doing runs

[pastel river]

proc chaining is confusing but im sure i can get a handle on it soon

[zinc turtle]

you'll naturally learn over time

and it's not something that you have to play differently around either, you'll just learn which items are good/bad for certain situations

[pastel river]

so i’ve learned, rn im having fun playing the runs to get the halcyon seed- sure ill die but atleast i had fun

[pastel river]

yes, thank you!

back to the grind

[heavy gorge]

Looping can help you steamroll a tough boss in exchange for spending more time on the run

[pastel river]

i see, and what does changing the destination of the fifth teleporter do

[heavy gorge]

That is what lets you loop. You can also take alternate exits like the blue portal or the artifact portal

[pastel river]

hmm noted thank you!

[south egret]

balala

[lavish jacinth]

it's not as complicated as it might seem, the important thing to understand is that most procs deal a % of the hit that procced them, that's what the "X% total damage" on the items stats refers to

So like, say you hit an enemy and proc , which fires a missile that deals 3x the damage of that hit
the missile procs , summoning a lightning bolt that does 5x the damage of the missile
the lightning bolt procs which deals 1.8x the damage of the lightning bolt and so on
and then along the way you could have proc and chain that damage to other enemies, or have something like that boosts the damage of the entire chain

[pastel river]

ohhhhh

now i get it

thank you!

[lavish jacinth]

also protip, easiest way to get halcyon seed is actually by going to the bazaar, since gilded coast has a decent chance of appearing in one of the lunar seers at the back of the shop. And if you get there on stage 1-3 of the current loop you'll also get a guaranteed green portal after beating it, which will take you to the false son path

it will require spending some lunar coins though

[pastel river]

i have around 40 i should be alright

ive been trying to do that method yet no avail, i cant seem to get into a run that has the bazaar shrine

[lavish jacinth]

newt altars? almost every map is guaranteed to have one, but some of the spawn locations are kinda hidden

they're all listed on the wiki though

[pastel river]

yes! that but ive had trouble finding that

[lavish jacinth]

(make sure you use wiki.gg and not fandom)

[pastel river]

alright thank you

[unborn nacelle]

What is the most effective pillar skip for mando

[hoary sedge]

if you have faraday spur then slide barely gives you enough height at max buff to gain altitude by spamming it

it takes a long time but that's probably the simplest one that isn't just

[unborn nacelle]

Ok

[wheat mirage]

Hey guys, I'm trying to get the Railgunner's alternate supercharge shot, the one where you have to kill 3 enemies with your supercharge while in the air, I keep using Primordial cube and bunching up like 10 enemies and blasting them all with my supercharge while i boost myself up into the air with the utility so I'm well off the ground, I've done it abour 5 times now and I haven't unlocked it yet, any suggestions?

[wintry fjord]

Idk I accidentally got it, just like get 3 beetles following you and jump right before shooting

[lavish jacinth]

the enemies don't need to be airborne, only you do

[outer summit]

were there any new artifacts in the new DLC?

[lavish jacinth]

there was one, artifact of prestige

[heavy gorge]

You can hipfire the supercharge shot. Might make it easier

[pastel river]

does it matter if i play the game on drizzle or rainstorm?

[high forum]

nope

rainstorm is the difficulty the game is designed around though

[pastel river]

oooh

ok

[sullen basin]

is spare drone parts a DLC item?

[lavish jacinth]

it's from survivors of the void, yea

[empty bone]

do you mind explaining how the damage is 13,500%

[lavish jacinth]

4000% + 500% from perfect reload * 1.5 weakpoint bonus * 2 from crit

[empty bone]

oh does hitting the reload qte give you bonus damage?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it adds 500% to your next shot

[empty bone]

oh thanks

so cryo does 5000% then on weakpoint with perfect reload?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[empty bone]

awesome thanks for explaining

[lavish jacinth]

np

[wheat mirage]

Yeah but I blast myself into the air and shoot them and I still don't get it 😛

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, other than primordial cube somehow messing it up I don't really know what to tell you lol

and I don't know why cube would affect it, it's just the only thing I can think of lol. normally it's as easy as lining up 3 enemies, jumping and shooting

[wheat mirage]

I just did it getting drizzle and just waiting for a ton of wisps to spawn in the first stage and wait for them to clump, I have a feeling it was one of the bands that was messing with the kill claims or something dumb like that

[lavish jacinth]

could be, but if you're hitting wisps then they should die instantly from the supercharge shot

unless maybe they weren't lined up enough, so one was slightly outside of supercharge's radius but died to kjaro's aoe or something

or the game was just being weird, there's been some jank with unlocks recently lol

[wheat mirage]

yeah my build also had a couple Gasolines to help with wave clear so that might've messed it up too

[wild onyx]

Are there any things i should do to get chef or is it entirely luck based because i only get the shrines on the first location and never have the items needed

[lavish jacinth]

artifact of command makes it pretty much free

but you can also loop and try to get a halcyon shrine on stage 6/11/etc. or use the geodes in the bazaar for a green portal

[wild onyx]

What is that and how do i get it (my apologies brand new to the game)

[lavish jacinth]

ah ok
so, artifacts are unlockable game modifiers, ||command allows you to choose your items||

unlocking them is a bit of a process, ||first you have to get to stage 5 and find the artifact portal (either on the platform underneath sky meadows or at the very top of helminth hatchery) and input a code that corresponds to the artifact you want, which will take you to a trial where you unlock the artifact.||

the codes are hidden throughout the game, although you can just look them up if you want. The wiki has both the codes and a hint guide if you wanna find them yourself but get stuck https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifacts

[hoary vapor]

I'mma need speed for my next endeavor.

[quartz lava]

So is rorr just ror2 but 2d?

[dusky raven]

How does the ||Solus Heart's|| logbook drop? is it from when you defeat the boss or when you ||decline||

Trying to find out if I can end my run on it or nah

[wild onyx]

Thank you so so much

[dusky raven]

also I don't know if this was explained but you don't have to put all 3 items in the same run for the CHEF unlock. If you ever put steak in there it will always be there and you can do the other 2 later

[wild onyx]

Oh alright thank you ive been resetting if i dont have all three

[pulsar nova]

rorr has a very different gameplay loop honestly

it plays very differently

I wouldn't call the two particularly similar

[devout nebula]

hey guys i just finished ror 2 on drizzle difficulty it was challenging for me so do i keep doing drizzler until i get better just with different dlcs or do i increase to normal

[lavish jacinth]

up to you, but if you do wanna improve at the game I'd recommend playing on at least rainstorm, since drizzle does hold your hand quite a bit

[devout nebula]

also i have qeustions on who to unlock next as far as characters go i heard loader was good

and i wanted to try false son cause he is said to also be good

[lavish jacinth]

false son and loader are both really good, false son can sometimes be annoying to unlock though

[devout nebula]

okay so who should i use in the mean time

[lavish jacinth]

whoever you're most comfortable with, but bandit, railgunner, seeker and operator are all really good choices in the early game lineup

seeker in particular is extremely broken lol

[devout nebula]

i cleared drizzle with seeker

that soul spiral build with the balls is really good is that her optimal build?

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much, but she's really strong no matter what you run on her honestly

her only "bad" skill is the default secondary, and even that's still decent

[devout nebula]

so like who is the most broken in your opinion i heard enginnner has like some insane scaling

[dusky raven]

Seeker is def the strongest

[lavish jacinth]

^

free revive every stage, practically infinite damage and invincibility with sojourn

she's a walking nuke

[devout nebula]

i gotta nerf myself then so i can actually get good

[devout nebula]

whats a good character to nerf too LOL

[lavish jacinth]

honestly, pretty much anybody else, depends on how much of a nerf you want

[lavish jacinth]

everyone here besides seeker is good if you want somebody who's strong but not an automatic win

[lavish jacinth]

and engineer isn't a bad choice either

I'd recommend getting his alt secondary and utility though

[devout nebula]

i dont have him yet i started yesterday

i might use railgunner i just need to know how to survive good

[lavish jacinth]

she's got great single-target damage, her weakness is crowd control

gotta be good at quickscoping and dodging until you get some aoe items or drones

[devout nebula]

my strongest build on her was when i got blackhole and fire

[lavish jacinth]

btw if you're not already, make sure you're full-clearing stages and not just rushing to the teleporter. Don't worry too much about the timer

[lavish jacinth]

primordial cube is amazing yeah

[devout nebula]

oh ive been trying to find the teleporter thats been my struggle but if i should focus full clearing wont my runs take to long

[lavish jacinth]

nah, items are how you get stronger

you can't outrun the timer no matter how fast you go, so time management is more about being efficient than fast

One item per minute is considered a good pace but it's also okay to spend time using printers and scrappers and stuff, the important thing is that you're spending time on things that'll make you stronger

[devout nebula]

okay so main focus is items and just trying to find a middle ground of time to be more efficient

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[devout nebula]

also how do i unlock false son?

[lavish jacinth]

oh btw, the teleporter has a cloud of orange particles around it that you can follow, there's a setting that makes them easier to spot from a distance

"teleporter particle scaling" under the umbrella settings tab on the first page, I also highly recommend "enable inspect" while you're there, it'll let you check what stuff does before you pick it up

[devout nebula]

should i puase on inspect as well?

[lavish jacinth]

up to you, everything in that menu is just QoL stuff

[devout nebula]

okay cool

[lavish jacinth]

1. get to gilded coast and obtain a halcyon seed, easiest way to get there is by checking the bazaar since it's got a decent chance of being in one of the lunar seers. But you can also rarely get a gold shrine on any stage that'll take you there
2. find a green portal and then keep going through them until you reach false son, then just win the fight. If you get to gilded coast on stage 1-3 of the current loop then a green portal is guaranteed to spawn there, if not then you can loop and go to the bazaar and break 3 hidden geodes for a green portal. Or just hope that a halcyon shrine spawns at some point and use that

the routing is really complicated lol

[devout nebula]

so i should always be running only the seekers of the storm dlc right

[lavish jacinth]

well yeah, you can't do the dlc content without the dlc enabled lol

[devout nebula]

lol i know but i have all of them at first i just cleared the base game is there an order for dlc

[lavish jacinth]

and just fyi, having a halcyon seed in the false son fight actually makes the fight a bit harder, so I'd recommend being somewhat familiar with the normal fight before you start grinding for the character unlock

[lavish jacinth]

nah, if you want you can just enable all of them, it won't hurt anything

[dusky raven]

It may just be feature overload, having a node, a Halcyon shine, and a void seed on the same stage can be overwhelming

but when you are used to it, it just makes the game more replayable

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that'd be the only real downside, just having a lot of extra stuff to deal with

but the dlcs also add some really useful items and mechanics

[devout nebula]

okay cool then

[devout nebula]

OKAY i found a shrine and went into the green portal right now im using operator for mobility what drones do i focus and do i just have to clear the run

[lavish jacinth]

if you're using the default secondary I'd say try to prioritize combat drones for more consistent damage output, but it doesn't matter too much as long as you're just buying drones

and wdym clear the run, like to unlock false son?

oh also protip, try not to pick up transport drones as operator, there's a really annoying bug atm where they can crash the game if operator orders them to grab an immobile enemy

[devout nebula]

yeah do i just have to beat the false son boss now

[lavish jacinth]

do you have the halcyon seed?

[devout nebula]

nah does it just have a chance to drop from shrines?

[lavish jacinth]

this thing

[lavish jacinth]

you have to go to gilded coast and kill aurelionite for it

[empty bone]

do my drones tp to mithrix when i start the fight?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[simple coyote]

conditional damage doesn’t necessarily apply to total right? ie. operator m1, hitting a crowbar shot, killing and ricocheting, it doesn’t inherit that crowbar damage, and crowbar is only applied if it actually would on the new enemy. and similarly. railgunner bands wouldn’t inherit crowbar’s buffs unless the initial shot did less than 10% max.
and the same thing with focus crystal, right?

or is it weird and complicated

[lavish jacinth]

That's exactly how it works, yeah

[simple coyote]

[quasi crystal]

Does the guillotine stack ?

[primal vector]

Yes, but not very well

[jaunty furnace]

all items do yes

[quasi crystal]

I mean yea I get that just don't really understand how it would work

[jaunty furnace]

higher threshold

[quasi crystal]

So elites would die at 40% health then ?

[jaunty furnace]

hyperbolic

you can check the wiki and put a number in there if youre trying to get a really high amount of guillotine

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Old_Guillotine#Math

[quasi crystal]

Thankss 😄

[sudden timber]

how to proc item effect effectively?, I'm abit lost in this topic for a while, Idk which item combo give me the best run

[glacial knoll]

the more the better

[lavish jacinth]

You don't need to get any specific combos for proc builds, just get as many different proc items as you can

Better explanation: #ror2-game-questions message

[sudden timber]

as many different item as possible?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

Items generally multiply each other's effects

[sudden timber]

tysm for this 🙇

[pliant scarab]

how does one infinitely stay in void fiends corrupt mode

do i just stack healing items so i can spam his special?

[glacial knoll]

his special has limited uses and healing makes you go out of corrupt mode

the only way to stay infinitely would be 50 void items

taking damage and dealing crit damage makes it so you stay longer tho

[pliant scarab]

so getting items like safer spaces/plates and glasses would be better than healing items right

[glacial knoll]

if you want to maximize your corrupt time yeah

[hidden solstice]

why do so many people hate sirens call?

[spare peak]

Have to fight an annoying, difficult boss instead of just opening a chest for the same red item

That would be my guess

[lavish jacinth]

The loot pool kinda sucks, iirc it has a really high chance for shrines, so spawn credits get eaten up by woods shrines and other stuff instead of chests

The only advantage is that you get multiple guaranteed reds in multiplayer

Meanwhile abyssal depths can have a bunch of extra loot if the cave is open, sundered grove can occasionally have a scavenger as a boss, and repurposed crater can have drone combiners and the tc-280

[jaunty furnace]

also virtual portal and guaranteed empathy cores if you have gun

[lavish jacinth]

True

[mossy goblet]

can you do the huntress dont fall under 100% hp if your shield gets hit as in psg shield not safer spaces

[lavish jacinth]

Shield counts as max hp so shield damage will fail the challenge, but taking damage to barrier won't

[mossy goblet]

cool

i assume merc R is the same?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[grave solar]

does the drone damage for operator count as normal damage

because i refuse to believe i did 6 million damage and my drones only did 1m

[lavish jacinth]

it does for his secondary, yeah

[sullen basin]

is this hackable

[jaunty furnace]

yea

[grave solar]

guys how do i get to solus heart

[lavish jacinth]

use the access node on stage 3 to get to conduit canyon, kill solus wing and be sure to either have an extra sentry key or two, or grab the prison matrixes before going through the portal

in computational exchange, go to the wandering chef behind spex and decrypt the cerebellum using the sentry key or prison matrix and give it to spex

you can also decrypt the cerebellum with rusted/encrusted key, empathy cores or orphaned core, but the sentry key or prison matrix are ideal since you can always get them and they don't stack

[sullen basin]

is it possible to kill the newt

[livid wedge]

Yes

[sullen basin]

what happens if you do

[primal vector]

Nothing

[untold wind]

im playing vanilla multiplayer risk of rain 2 with my friend on steam online but after around stage 3 he suddenly disconnects and gets kicked from the lobby. Is this a known issue and is there a fix?

[primal vector]

Ummm, does any of you have the setting " crossplay" on? It should be off if so

[clear herald]

yo Im trying to do the engineer kill everything on the stage achievment but cant really get it

I wait until 99% then kill all the small enemies and then the boss like I saw in the guides

but I never get it

[lavish jacinth]

just gotta sweep the map and make sure you're killing everything, sometimes you'll end up with a beetle or something stuck in a random spot

is useful, the missiles have infinite homing range and can find hidden enemies

[clear herald]

thanks

[sullen basin]

what are some good equipments for captain??

[lavish jacinth]

equipments aren't usually character-specific and are more dependent on what you actually need in the run, but are always strong go-to picks

[sullen basin]

is her biting embrace any good on him?

[lavish jacinth]

no

it's basically just a slightly better chronobauble lol

[sullen basin]

i see

[lavish jacinth]

most aspects are kinda crap ngl

[sullen basin]

so i don't need it in my current run, yeah?

i can proc dm more consistently with it on but i'm missing out on more burst dps options

[lavish jacinth]

hm

I mean, I don't think that run is gonna have any problems either way lol

[sullen basin]

i'll give crowdfunder a whirl if i can nab one later

i haven't tried it on capi

[lavish jacinth]

you can get the same slow from runalds band or wake of vultures

[sullen basin]

i usually run missile launcher on him cuz i like missiles

[lavish jacinth]

missile launcher is alright, kinda weak relative to its cooldown without ICBM though

[lone python]

the alloyed collective ending counts for the monsoon skin right?

[sullen basin]

ICBM?

[lavish jacinth]

yep, any win on monsoon will count

[lavish jacinth]

dlc item

[sullen basin]

ah i see

[modest marsh]

does anyone know how to use the dedicated servers?

[glacial knoll]

you can't its broken

[sullen basin]

is there any point to having over 10 lenses

[gaunt bay]

no point cuz crit maxes out at 100%

[clear herald]

if I already killed false son can I loop and kill him in the same run twice?

[gaunt bay]

iirc not anymore, after killing false son only gold orbs will spawn with halcyon shrines
it was introduced in the recent patch, not sure if there's any work-arounds

[clear herald]

okay thanks

[worn jasper]

How do i survive with railgunner

[devout temple]

move even while scoping, try to quickscope rather than hold it, and take a few mobility items as the stages get more chaotic

[lavish jacinth]

AoE items and drones help a lot, until you get some you just have to be good at quickscoping and dodging

use mines to reposition if you get swarmed, if you didn't know you can detonate them early by throwing both at the same time

[quartz lava]

Hey, is it better to do void fields early or later? Also should I turn on sotv so I can get ?

[lucid token]

Hey how many times can I loop? One run I changed the transporter away from the moon.
Another time I went to a portal and it looped.
Both times I got smoked by the boss

Also I got an equipment drone that had the slowdown crystals. Super annoying since they also slow me.
Is there any way to switch the drone’s weapon or to get rid of it?

[celest ermine]

where do I get the lost bag for drifter?

[cerulean lance]

Why is gasoline so loved, I thought it was just a weaker will-of-wisp

[devout nebula]

is there a tier list for this game?

[primal vector]

wow, lots of questions at once

[primal vector]

People have done tons of tierlists of all the elements of the game: items, stages, skills...

[primal vector]

It is not that weaker than gasoline and gasoline is common and stacks very well. There are few aoe items

[primal vector]

The same room where you unlocked her

[lavish jacinth]

there are a lot of tier lists out there but they tend to be pretty bad tbh

[primal vector]

The loop limit is your computer's power. There is not limit in the game. You cannot change the equipment on the drone. Just hope it dies

[devout nebula]

any good ones

[lucid token]

Is there a point to looping? Or should I fight the boss instead?

[lavish jacinth]

honestly none that I know of lol, trying to organize items or whatever in terms of strict tiers is just a bad way to rank stuff in this game

[lavish jacinth]

it's required for a handful of unlocks, but otherwise it's just a way to get stronger before the boss

[devout nebula]

im on stage 5 what can i unlock by looping

[lavish jacinth]

on stage 8 (or any stage 3 map after looping) you can get a celestial portal and obliterate yourself to unlock merc
beating stage 20 unlocks clover, and commando's alt special if you get there without using lunars

and a few things that don't technically require looping but are usually easier if you do, like killing an overloading worm on commando or a scavenger on acrid

[flint dragon]

Play like you quickscoping in mw2

[blissful anvil]

As a new player should I play with all the dlc enabled or should I try to unlock as much as I can with the base game

[white osprey]

I was in a run, and there was a big blue thing on my screen, it looked like Purity
I was connected to my drones and had a lot of blue shield.
I’m new to the game, so I don’t know what caused it or what it even was. If anyone can tell me, it would be appreciated.
I can't post images for some reason, so I can not show my items :(

[white osprey]

with dlc imo

It feels like it’s not the full game without the DLC. You just have to think: this isn’t the DLC, it’s just how big the base game is!

[lavish jacinth]

you need a role to post pics, #roles but I'm guessing you had and got the effects from a twisted elite and overloading elite

[delicate vector]

does anyone know if death after a certain time counts as a death for the Artifact of Death? im trying to get it and i accidentally gave my goobo jr to an equipment drone

[lavish jacinth]

it only counts player deaths, not minions

[white osprey]

Oh, thanks! I can post it now. And I had four of them, I’m assuming that’s what caused the big shield, then.

[delicate vector]

awesome, thanks! so then artifact of death is easy if youre doing solo right?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the shield is from collective elites

well, do you mean like a bubble shield around your character, or like actual shields on your healthbar

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, death literally does nothing in singleplayer

[white osprey]

On my health bar, there was a big like thing in the center of the screen

[lavish jacinth]

ok yeah, that's the twisted elite effect

it buffs 5 nearby allies with 300 armor, and for every 10 times those allies take damage, you'll fire off a lunar spike attack that inflicts lunar ruin

[white osprey]

oh

thank you <3

[white osprey]

This is not a game question, but a question about the game:
I accidentally bought the new DLC as private, and unlike games, it doesn’t show up in my library. Is it possible to undo this? for my steam family.

[jaunty furnace]

...dlcs dont show up in your library

theyre just in the game

[quartz lava]

Sorry to repeat my question but, is it better to do void fields early or later? Also should I turn on sotv so I can get ?

[lone python]

why don't dlc characters have alloyed collective skins?

[celest ermine]

early. easy red item

and depends on what character you're playing

[lavish jacinth]

devs decided that they don't wanna do more cross-dlc content

and it adds to the workload if every dlc needs to have skins for every character for every other dlc

[wild onyx]

What does it mean when you load into sky meadow and it says the "primordial teleporter aligns with the moon"

[quartz lava]

That actually makes a lot of sense

[quartz lava]

It means that if you start the teleporter event once it's done it'll take you to the moon aka the place where you fight the final boss.

[lavish jacinth]

the stage 5 teleporter can be realigned by interacting with its prongs before activating it, by default it'll take you to the moon but if you realign it it'll align to the planet and you'll loop

[wild onyx]

Ohhh alright thank you thank you

[quartz lava]

But if you interact with the weird things around the teleporter then it'll say it aligns with the planet which will have you loop aka start back at stage one but with your items and enemy difficulty staying the same.

[wild onyx]

Im currently on a two hour run and one shot everything would you recommend looping again or going to the moon

[quartz lava]

Depends on what you want to do

If you haven't beaten the moon yet then I'd do that

If you don't have mercenary then I'd loop and do the obelisk.

[pastel river]

so im trying to unlock the false son, do i get the halcyon shrine and then loop back to stage one or?

[snow willow]

Is it normal to not see any aspects in 80 hours of total steam game time?

[snow willow]

U can find the golden dimension where u find the halcyon

Then ofc u take the seed, keep taking green portals from inside there, and then u fight False Son (the boss)

[pastel river]

so first level go to the bazaar then go to the green portal in the bazaar get the halcyon seed and then theres a halcyon shrine?

sorry if i dont make sense im fairly new and trying to get a grasp

[lavish jacinth]

Best way to get gilded coast is to use lunar seers, it's got a decently high chance to show up and if you're on stage 1-3 of the current loop then you'll get a guaranteed green portal after completing it

Trying to go through the green portal first and then get a gold portal from there is rng hell

[pastel river]

ok so go to gilded coast get the halcyon seed loop go through halcyon shrine and pray for gold portal?

[lavish jacinth]

It's plausible, aspects are a 1/4000 drop

[lavish jacinth]

Gilded coast is where you get the halcyon seed

[pastel river]

yes and then loop?

or does the green portal also spawn there

[snow willow]

U dont have to loop

[pastel river]

ohh ok

[snow willow]

Maybe ill see a single one soon

[lavish jacinth]

a green portal will always spawn after beating gilded coast if it's on stage 1-3, like I said. But if you weren't able to get one on the first 3 stages then you'll have to loop for another green portal

the bazaar also has 3 hidden geodes you can break for a guaranteed green portal, so you don't have to wait for a halcyon shrine

...I'm so glad they made the routing for AC so much simpler lmao

[pastel river]

thank you

my current run isnt so kucky but i can try to get the drifter

[vestal lion]

Hello there, I'm playing my very first game with the engineer and I'm currently in the void, I was wondering if the engineer's shield can protect you from the "black holes" that some void enemies create when they die

[lavish jacinth]

don't think so, void implosions can't be blocked

[vestal lion]

thank you !

from a right now experience I can even add that the engineer's shield doesn't block the instant beam sent by Voidling 😆

[lavish jacinth]

yeah the shield kinda sucks ngl

the alt utility is good though

[vestal lion]

I mean, it blocks almost anything else and for such a boss I feel its quite strong but yeah I wouldn't rely entirely only on this

[vestal lion]

I don't have it yet but I'll check when I'll unlock it 👍

[coral hemlock]

hey i just got the game not that long ago but ive been trying to unlock most of and play the characters, i got drifter and they seemed pretty good but it seems like i lose my temporary items a lot quicker than normal does anyone know why? i spent around 3m making items just to mess around and see how it goes but all my items were gone in like 30s instead of 80

[mighty mist]

is there any scenario commandos grenade is worth

[lavish jacinth]

it's not great but it's pretty much always better than suppressive fire lol

is his actual best special but I always prefer the grenade just to have some amount of aoe and a band proc

[steady dew]

whats railgunners damage scaling with crit chance

[lavish jacinth]

crit damage scales at a 2:1 ratio, so one stack of lensmakers is +5% crit damage

in other words it sucks

same is true for laser scope

[mighty mist]

how is it always better then suppressive fire

suppressive fire seems reliable and good way to proc a lot

[lavish jacinth]

suppressive fire is literally the same fire rate and damage as his m1 but with a guaranteed stun

iirc it's actually a tiny bit slower due to endlag

[mellow crystal]

idk if i'd consider either of his specials better tbh

supp fire is a very solid and consistent stun tool while grenade is a way to deal basically the same damage in a small aoe (with sweetspot falloff) at the cost of the stun and with the requirement that you need to do more than aim and press r

both of them become borderline useless on mithrix or other faster bosses because supp fire doesn't stun anymore and lining up a grenade to predict their movement is about as effective as just continuing to shoot

-# which is even more reason for them to increase grenade's damage to be more than just 1.17 seconds of m1ing but that's a different conversation

[proper pebble]

Are the environment logs for Iron Alluvium/Auroras bugged? They're the only stages I can't seem to get spawned.

[lavish patio]

Hey guys, is there a chance to doesn't spawn newt's altar in distant roots?

[proper pebble]

Correct. Distant Roost (both variants) aren't a guaranteed spawn for it.

It can sometimes spawn in an inaccessible spot, like if the tunnel isn't open, but sometimes it also just doesn't. Every other stage is guaranteed though.

[lavish patio]

Ok but, even all the spots are accessible, is there a chance to doesn't spawn?

[polar narwhal]

should i use an easy to play character (bandit) to learn the game or should i play a harder character (operator) to learn the game

[zinc turtle]

play whoever you like

[south egret]

every other stage is guaranteed though
as far as I’m aware, this is wrong, unless something has changed since sotv

[teal hawk]

guys I just unlocked False Son, what skills should I use on him?

[south egret]

switch off LotF, and I think everything else is up to you

[teal hawk]

so laser burst is much better than lotf?

[south egret]

yes

(so I’ve heard, from people who play false son more than I do)

[grave solar]

i should always combine drones right?

[primal vector]

Pretty much yes

[cobalt quiver]

that aside, operator is not harder than bandit tho, you just point, shoot and spam. basically a stronger commando.

[fallow agate]

hi everyone. i have a question how to spawn a boss in this terminal? There must be some kind of a code or smth like that idk. i've searched through the internet but never found an answer

[primal vector]

A boss? You can spawn a portal. You have one of the codes in a square tablet just right to where you are

[fallow agate]

ok, i thought it's gonna be a boss

[acoustic meadow]

hi guyssss i'm new at the game, and i heard dlc makes the experience better but theres 3 of them and i need help on whats the most fun to play?:)

[primal vector]

Also, the rest of the codes are in different places in the game you can look them up in the wiki or follow this cool hint page if you you want to search them https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_Hints

[fallow agate]

thank you very much

[jaunty furnace]

look closer at this thing

atleast i think that should be one

map is so fucking dark lmao

[fallow agate]

yeah, that's true

[jaunty furnace]

base game is still fun, but if you really want a dlc, grab survivors of the void

[primal vector]

Difficult to say. All of them are good and all of them add interesting elements and many hours to the game. The base game by itself also has many many playtime hours. I usually say go in order sotv -> sots -> AC. But other people can give you other suggestions

[acoustic meadow]

thankk you both!!

[nova warren]

Does the encrypted portal path have an official name? Like how the green portal path is called the “Path of the Colossus”

[quick quiver]

Just got the game, I've had a few good runs and so far I managed to get to stage 4. With how the difficulty paces, I just wanna ask if it is worth it clearing loot each stage or should I just rush it?

[primal vector]

Yes, loot as much as you can while trying to be efficient. Enemies scale with time but much less that it could seem. Taking items outscales time very easily

[mossy goblet]

does desperado scaliung go 600, 610, 620, 630... or 600, 660, 720, 780...

[nova warren]

Items scale you far faster than the enemies scale with time. It’s always worth it to get as many items as possible from a stage. Just leave when you stop finding items. A good rule of thumb is that you should have more items than minutes on the clock. So if you’re on a stage for 10 minutes, and you get 11 items, you’re in good shape

And keep in mind, each time you transition to a new stage, that does bump the difficulty a bit. So if you spend 5 minutes on stage 1 and leave with 6 items, that will be more difficult for you than if you spend 10 minutes on stage 1 and leave with 11 items

[nova warren]

The second one. This is what it says on the wiki:

Each stack of the buff increases Desperado's total damage by 10%, so each provides a 60% base damage boost.

[real shell]

why when i went trough stage 5 teleporter in eclipse did i loop

[livid wedge]

Because you can loop

[jaunty furnace]

because you either shifted the teleporter to be "aligned with the planet" or you entered a portal

[real shell]

how i did that

[jaunty furnace]

by hitting e on your computer keyboard

[real shell]

how do i not shift it

[jaunty furnace]

you use the teleporter normally and dont interact with the pillar things around it

[real shell]

so if i press it again will i go to mythrix?

[jaunty furnace]

by default it is set to moon

[livid wedge]

As long as you haven't activated it yet

[jaunty furnace]

if you accidentally shifted it, just do it again

[livid wedge]

Once you activate, it's locked

[jaunty furnace]

once you activate the tp*

[quasi crystal]

Are the stages u get random ? Or are they based off of the previous stage ?

[primal vector]

Random except for some paths that require specific portals. Like Green for path of the colossus, the portal in the bazaar takes you to the void fields and so on. One exception is the primordial teleporter in stage 5 that can take you to the moon or make you loop depending on whther you leave it as is or you interact with its prongs before starting to charge it

Oh, one more thing. There are specific sets fot the stage number you are on. There is a set of maps for stage 1, a different set for stage 2, etc

If this is confusing, there are maps

[simple coyote]

merc booping was removed right?

[hoary sedge]

yeah

im not even sure if it was intentional or if it was just a result of sots fucking up the physics engine

[jaunty furnace]

definitely sots

[untold lotus]

i heard a lot of people talking about how artifact of command ruins the fun of ror2 after some time. I always use it but im scared that im gonna lose the fun. should i keep using it?

[gleaming gazelle]

Mix it up but I find it personally to be more fun.

It gets annoying having to cycle through random stuff instead of finding new ways each cycle to break the game.

[jagged coral]

what if you dont get dealt any damage how much score (points??) do you get at the end of the game

[jaunty furnace]

i do not recommend it
vanilla is a journey of using the many random tools at your disposal to wisely form a good build, whereas is just "click the op item"

[polar narwhal]

Ah okay

[untold lotus]

oke, i will start using it less

[nova warren]

I am someone who used to play a ton of artifact of command. I don’t think you need to use it less unless you want to. The point where it starts to “ruin the fun” is when it becomes too easy to win with it. And you can always just turn it off to make the game harder again. As long as you are enjoying it, there’s no reason to stop using it

[jaunty furnace]

try watching a race video, thats kinda where i learned how cool macro can be
https://youtube.com/@racesvideos

[lavish jacinth]

pretty sure it's still 0

[quasi crystal]

question

is there like a limit to how many void chests i can pick up in a stage

because 2nd time in a row i got killed by some bombs or something right after i opened the second void chest

[jagged coral]

...then whats the point of it....?????????

[lavish jacinth]

just to show you how much damage you took

[jagged coral]

i guess