#ror2-game-questions
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just me or is finding portals the the hardest thing in this game? ive been looking around the entire map for 20 minutes and cant find it. People saying there is like red glowy things. cant seem to find any
I wonder why they didn’t make skins for the SoV and SotS survivors
what item properties does tinkerer mess with
Is Operator’s alternate secondary ability good? I feel like each drone having their own special is too good to pass up
may be a bug with the new lunar item
Are you talking about the red glowy things as in for the new AC portal
Can you see beat both false son and the AC boss in one run or are they mutually exclusive?
You end up learning its usual locations, but you can also activate a setting that makes the glowing particles more aparent
They didn't want to lock dlc skins behind other dlcs anymore
Yes, you can
Yes you can
It deals damage more consistently
All it does is you target an enemy and the drone just goes flying at them right
It rerolls the items
wtf? thats so good??
Yes, even healing drones. It also deals the damage in an aoe that is bigger and ignites the enemy if it is a crit
Aight bet thanks man I’ll stack crit and try it out
It also works very well with the alt special
i just found someone else with the same thing, it says that the longstanding soltitude buff gives you infinite pearls
any major game shattering bugs with the dlc? im about to boot it up and dont want it to be unplayable, im very excited
nope
A few amount of people are having problems in mp. And of course I would not use mods yet. Many seem to work perfectly already, but there are some rare bugs like one with skin mods
ohhh? whats up in mp
Some people have reported crashes and such. But seems quite uncommon
And you know, it may as well be caused by mods or other stuff. Someone said they figured out it was because they were using a vpn🤷♂️
So I was playing the new DLC with the others yesterday and I went and killed Voidling after killing the ||Heart and taking the portal to the void|| and when I killed it ||some weird spiral staircase looking structure like the one in the middle of the void locus came out of the middle of the boss arena and had a pedestal at the top that didn't do anything when I interacted with it.|| Anyone know what this is? I can't recall ever encountering it previously in the past. I was using a few mods but I don't think any of them would have had such an effect, they're all skill and qol mods for the most part
havent hopped in a run with him yet but does engineer's turrets double their items with substandard duplicator like in risk of rain returns in ror2 or does it work different here
What even is the point of CHIRP?
Ive been playing operator a lot and trying to expirement with things however the one thing I cant really get behind is CHIRP
Transport drones already feel rather weak to me, boasting not that great of damage it feels and taking too long between attacks, and the admin override ability seeming to just do the same attack but quicker
CHIRP allows you to move chests but I seriously dont see the point of it at all
Can we activate again the stone to get to the new DLC area more than once in the same run?
Hi there guys! I have a huge question.
Can I revive the Chef in some way? I think I messed up in this new DLC. Right after I killed the Solus King and went to the last portal, i didnt know I would have an encounter with The Chef, and I dont know If it was me or my minions that made the whole mess in such a small place, but I ended up killing The Chef before I even knew it was friendly and I should lend him some items HAHAHA so now I think Im stuck. Any suggestions? I already passed 2 times the same run, through the same portal but I could find again The Chef… But when I tried to offer the ‘Encrypted Cerebellum’ to the Solus Unit, it said that i had to “revive the enemy”… So… Is there a way to actually revive him on the same run? 🥹
in my runs ive found that the Access node doesnt appear after youve beaten ||solus wing||, you can however get access by ||killing AWU||
what's awu
ahh ok thanks a lot
is there a resource somewhere of a complete logbook updated for the dlc? im not sure which entries are the ones im missing
i can tell you if you send screenshots
Anyone else running into the issue of Artifact of Sacrifice not working past the first round ?
have we figured out what makes headstompers sometimes not work?
does anyone have the thing where temporary beads/sale stars just turn into old guillotines?
Some items are blacklisted from being temporary
You get a random item of the same rarity instead
yeah i was gonna say
seems to always be guillotines for me
Can anyone help me?
Or does somebody knows what to do?
i didnt even know you could kill chef, good luck to you
Any tips on how to kill a boss using shrine of the mountain for the drifter utility?
yeah its difficult. shaped glass
Oh no HAHAHA thanks btw (And yes, you can even kill the NPC from the Lunar Portal, the Axolotl one)
lol
what does the alternate util and special even do/ are they better? I already have the alt m2, and I'm pretty sure its better
alt util is pretty cool, it will either reroll multishops or 3d printers OR turn an item on the ground into scrap of its color and a temporary version of said item
What would you guys say are the best duo combinations with railgunner and void fiend?
do you mean like, synergistic items? or chef crafting recipe's?
wdym
like, which character the other person should pick?
is using the artifact of dissonance and kin a good way to get gesture of the drowned unlock or should i just do it on loop?
im unsure of everything except the food items. tysm!
So I just noticed big sale on the game and was thinking about buying it and I know this is the server but how worth is it and does it get repetetive after few hours?
Guys where is the logbook for the new stage 5
railgunner is good with normal skills engineer, void fiend is just good by itself
also these two
no, instead, delete the file of every enemy except for the hermit crab, that way you will always get it
tysm <3
im going to go do that now
no problem man, i havent tried it but im pretty sure it should work
umm, i deleted the files that i thought were correct but i might have dome something wrong, i looked it up and apparently this happened when seekers of the storm released and it means my data is wiped?? is this true?? but it only happened on consoles i think so i dont know what this is
oh
I hope you didnt touch any file without doing security copies
whats a security copy
i dont know what a security copy is
a copy in separate and secure place of a file so in case something goes terribly wrong you can just recover the original file
i see
i didnt know you could do that
it is not sadly 💔
Thats tc-280 (solus wing location has a garunteed one somewhere and freeze drone , ive only seen one freeze drone on conduit canyon
I had to go to work so i'll look at the video in a bit
same xd but tysm!
sorry btw
its okay you didnt know <3
Where do you go to free the backpack in the solutional haunt as drifter? I swear ive looked everywhere
Its in the same room as freeing drifter. Hanging up
I see
why would you tell them to delete files that you didn't know would actually change anything??
found it! Thank you
i did ICT gcse
i got a 7 so im pretty good
Monsterlogs : Solus Amalgamator and Solus Wing, then most of the ac dlc areas. Some of them have radar dishes that are rare
well. you could've said anything about backing up data? or suggested something you know would work instead of throwing out something random
i didnt know about security copies
i see what i did wrong now, but ive apologised
Loop to titanic plains as someone with an ability to push like rex, or use black holes, hermit crabs also just run away from you so they can walk off the edge. After you fix whatever else youre dealing with idk
Guys is the war bonds item against false son good?
Warbonds are awesome! (Bad)
They sure do function
During each phase too, its just that i usually melt the false son before the warbonds even go off
||if i got kicked out by spex bc of my items after giving him the cerebellum, can i get another cerebellum and get back?||
radar scanners 
are any of these environment logs? of just scanners
guys, is there any mod that adds lunar coins in the normal game? Farming it takes so much time
Quick question regarding Bandit's hemorrage from m2 btw, are the bleed stacks tracked separately on it or does each new stack refresh the timer for all of them?
hi, how do you chain drones with operator’s mobility skill? idk if im too bad but i cant see a consistent way to get that second grab
what portal do i enter
Depends on what you want.
im guessing the left one will take me back to the normal loop
Digital's to return to normal stages, deep void is for deep void.
so.. im so convinced everyone who says drifter is good is either bad or im just missing something (prolly latter). ive done every strat ive hear (get the new legendary, turn everything to scrap, use temp items) and he still pales in comparison to nearly every character, i did 800k dmg while my friend did lik 200mil so why does drifter feel so buns
Drifter is good trust. I love her
those seem like general tips for the character but how are you playing them fundamentally? like using their skills
uhh for bosses ill like pick em up and throw them off map, or spam boxes on them. (also managing junk or wtv) but for flying enemies i lowkey feel useless
Google how to edit lunar coins and learn the forbidden ways
drifter in my experience likes to spam whatever she can at enemies, cleanup and cube can both snipe enemies or you can repossess to target them specifically
but even with these her damage feels so weak
Pick up heavy things with reposess and hit people harder
Does anyone know what the freeze drones special ability with operator is?
nvm figured it out
are there any new artifacts in the new DLC?
Prestige
you can't kill chef, dunno what happened to you. if you're talking about SPEX he'll stay mad
Isnt Chef on the way through the portal before going to the Solus Unit? On the little tunnel before going through the portal? Or who was it? Cause it was just a few seconds when everything happened and it just dropped a lunar item (the one that cuts half of your life but duplicate your damage).
ok ty, but is it still correct to scrap most items for the buff?
The mulT umbra?
Oh, it was mulT? Omg then where was The Chef?
||theres a chef that combines items in the hidden realm after you kill the solus wing||
I didnt see him
I’ll try again later, thank you sweetheart 
It was a fun run tho, thanks for the help!
have we figured out what causes headset to not work sometimes?
is blight or poison better for Acrid?
What’s the best item in the dlc? Excluding the food items?
the most debated topic but poison
Generally poison, blight is underpowered for a lot of the game, while poison is good for high health targets
interesting, thank you
depends on who you’re playing i think they’re all pretty well rounded but the shield items in my opinion make picking up plasma shrimps viable now
can u only use access node once per run? ive looped to stage 3s a few times but only used it once
I have this exact question because I got kicked out because of my spurs. Also WHY WOULD THEY ALLOW YOU TO BE LOCKED OUT OF THE ENDING
yes you can only access once
bro legit the EXACT same thing happened to me
same unfortunately
that sucks cause i got a crazy run going and id solo the boss quick
Fucking ridiculous what were they thinking???
full agree
i get it for the bazaar cause whatever but for that shit
u gotta kill prob the second hardest boss in the game just to get there
And the fact you can only access it once too
guys are my friends crazy? they keep saying the new dlc adds something that lets you spawn in as a drone? or respawn as a drone? is this a real thing or are they crazy crazy
It is in fact true
I thought you could kill the Alloy Worship Unit to get another encrypted portal to spawn
bro is ragebaiting
Depends on playstyle. My friend group likes to take breaks in the bazaar so temp items are something i get sparingly intentionally
atg better and we all know it
How do I even unlock the new engineer skin, I have tried to leave an offering of items and it just spits them out no matter what. 1 hour wasted every time
Combine the item you got from solus wing with a key or any other of the matrix's for the offering
Im still confused. What do you mean by combine?
on that secret map, you can find chef on the left
he lets you combine items, you have to combine the boss item from the solus wing with any type of key, and then offer that item up
it spits out any other item
I did not know that thx so much 
👍
you can combine other items at chef too, he can give you unique items you cant get anywhere else
Alloyed Collective boss question: ||What do you do when everything lights on fire from the heat thingies?||
and whats a good item to finish off the 1hp enemies? dagger?
break the heat vents
get into a cooling zone to reset burn if youre in danger
hey does anyone know how to fix the resolution settings not working it just keeps me stuck at 60hz
How do you play drifter
does conduit canyon have a newt altar?
Don't break the heat vents** just break the hydrants cooling her off, they have a protective aoe while she cooks herself alive
It's like my biggest reccomendation for everyone struggling with her
Stuff things in bag and beat to death
ive ogtten the blue portal on there but not seenm a newt
Why leave conduit canyon through newt though? You can just leave the secret area after the boss and continue the run.
idk if ill be able to beat the boss and the +15% speed + equipment multishop + chance for the boss item is nice
but also im just curious
why does it vary which characters you ||reject or accept the offering of the collective on||? Is there a lore reason?
How many clovers for the ||worms|| 10% chance to be increased to 100%?
Probably 90 considering clover increases by 1%
Adds to the personality
Like yeah bandit the thief would accept immortality
Rex whose mission is to just protect the plant would accept immortality
Commando? Probably not
Who would win ||solus wing|| vs grandparent with ||collective elite?||
Is there a guaranteed red on the new stage 4?
Yes
It’s a chest you can see it from the far prism receiver thingy
Ok
You can't
No amount of clovers will give 100%
does anyone know what ||spex's bargain protocol|| is
Clovers do not increase anything by a fixed amount.
It just gives an additional chance at succeeding a random roll
It is still possible to fail all additional rolls as well
if you get kicked out of ||spex's place is there any way to get back in||
So where is that
The new stage 4s legendary chest is near the gold leafed trees
Look for those and you'll find the chest
Is there a way to not go in the deep void portal😭
If you're in the void locus, that's the only path
Go back to the map again it resets
Dan reloaded the map using mods and it was open again
Ok what’s the amount of clovers needed to make it like 90%
Yes, but you have to kill alloy worship unit to get another portal
Nodes stop spawning after you've been there once
To get something from 10 to 90?
Yeah I want a really high chance of worms
ok so just loop right
because we;re doing that now
22 clovers
Yeah, you can use lunar seers to try to get sirens call
Wait, 21
when im doing false son the golden orb wont spawn, am i unlucky or do i need to do it once
unlucky, but if you're trying to get to gilded coast then the most reliable way to get there is actually through the bazaar, it has a decently high chance of showing up in lunar seers
TY
do we let spoilers in here? the ||big orb boss guy that you kill to unlock drifter||, how do you deal with the ||attack that cooks the entire area||
Whats the the new artifact code
He spawns things you gotta kill
yeah, spoilers are fine as long as you use the spoiler tag
||when that attack happens there are two ways to deal with it, on the lower floors there are hydrants you can break to create a cold zone that extinguishes fire and protects you from the heat. Higher up there are heat vents that'll stop the attack entirely if you break all of them, although it can be beneficial to only break the hydrants since the heat can damage the boss once they're destroyed||
Whats the new artifact code
When my friends enabled crossplay (on PC Steam) they did not get a popup that said 'link your epic games account like I did. Is there any way to force this to appear for them?
it might appear if they restart the game?
although ideally you really want to have crossplay turned off unless you actually need it
it's notoriously unstable and basically useless anyway
I've had an issue where my friend trying to connect from Australia (I'm in the UK) wont connect to the game and instead be stuck in a void unless we enabled crossplay. Thats why weve had it on
oh, rip
Yeah annoyed. They've tried relaunch the game and reenable crossplay and its not popped up for them
crossplay being barely functional as usual
doing it with crossplay kicks us out of the lobby at 30 mins and Only 1 person can host sucsessfuly so that 'bearly' is doing some legwork
i hate the scorcher enemies so much
Is it generally better to use the node on stage 3 or stage 8
im so not used to their movement i can't land my desperado shots
it's doable on stage 3 but probably easier stage 8
how are you even supposed to survive phase 4 of the ||solus wing|| fight
i just keep getting hit with insane stacks of burning damage over and over until i die
thanks man
cheers sir
Hello, how tf can I kill a boss in 5 seconds with the engineer
is the easiest way
will also usually do it
or just loop until you're overpowered enough to do it without even trying
do i still get the skin for the survivor i picked if i turn into the heretic
I fear not
thank you king
Can anyone tell me what the "nano-bugged" status effect does?
It should tell you in survivor select if you hover over the skill
Whats the condition for being revived as a drone? I get revived randomly and i have no clue how it works
as a drone?
yeah, when you spectate you can become a drone
oh that must be new then, I haven't played MP since the new DLC was released
Hey, does anyone know if the Radio Scanner bug for Viscous Falls, Disturbed Impact, and I guess now Iron Auroras is still a thing? (I also can’t seem to find the Radio Scanner for Repurposed Crater either…)
I did a looped run with the whole Command + Sacrifice thing and after an hour and 30 minutes I still had nothing…
Am I just horribly unlucky??
The patch notes say it was fixed
alr thanks
hey, haven't played in a while and can't remember whether this pedestal is part of the game or some mod addition?
I don't remember seeing it ever before
that's a mod thing, dunno which mod though
How do you encounter the new stages?
Like is it just in normal rotation bc I see it says 6 new ones
they're in the normal rotation, aside from the ones you reach with the digital portal
HMMM there's a single drone i dont have unlocked, i can't even tell
What stages are they ?
Iron affluvium is one of them
pretender's precipice, iron alluvium, repurposed crater, and iron auroras
yeah, figure that much
dunno which mod either, at first thought it could be Starstorm but I have it disabled since it's deprecated
Oh, alluvium
post a screenshot? you'll need a role for perms, #roles
OHHH that's why i can't point pictures
Can anyone the ||artifact of prestige|| even if they don’t own the new dlc?
if you are playing drifter on command do you get command essenses for her special
Yes
but theyre still temp?
Yes
Is operator a robot or a human?
Cyborg I’m pretty sure
if one of the player in your lobby have it you can use it
dlc sharing is nice
No I mean, if they pick up the new artifact in the bulwark ambry can they just use it without owning the dlc?
No
Afaik nope
Which is really weird
DLC achievements are locked behind dlcs
Even if one of your mate have the dlc you cannot get them
I get why rebirth is locked behind sots but prestige should've been base game
No reason to not
Achievements are what triggers unlocks
I know and I think it still should've been a base game achievement
For the alternate version of lights out do I have the kill Mithrix with it or can it be voidling or false son?
I'm pretty sure it's mithrix
where does solus wings's log drop when it does drop?
it's pretty much unobtainable atm, it falls underneath it and gets stuck under its corpse
can u be under him when he dies and get it
maybe, I haven't been able to test it
yeah ill try in a bit
but I think there's also a risk that the boss falls on you and you get stuck lol
Okay now I gotta know does the item that one shots bosses one shot the "final bosses"
tricorn? no
is heart's log working? How did they not test this lol
I would assume the actual logbook drop works fine
So can someone please tell me what I’m missing
freeze drone col droneman
oh riight
Oh drone man right lol
also can someone explain how luck works? if i have a 50% chance for something does it make it a hundred or whats going on
luck essentially just re-rolls failed procs
so if you have a 50% chance and 1 luck, you would have two 50% chances
if luck is negative then it rerolls successful procs instead, essentially making it so they have to succeed multiple times in a row
Wait a second did they break the character thing?
what character thing
When you turn off a dlc you don’t have to access to those characters
Does the new stage four "repurposed crater" have a legendary chest on it?
yep
there are multiple locations for it, they're marked by gold trees though
wait really?
that's so cool
TIL
Hello, I've tried everything on the internet to see if I can play this game in Steam Offline Mode or Airplane mode. No bueno I run into a Steamworks Integration Error, but now I'm wondering why Hopoo or 2k doesn't just say this game requires an Internet Connection.
As a steam deck user I think this would be helpful when buying
it normally shouldn't, at least it didn't the last time I tried
although maybe it's different for steam deck
normally, you can fix the integration error bug by manually killing steam with task manager, but I don't know if that's even possible on steam deck, and this may be an unrelated problem anyway
Thanks for the response. I have re-downloaded, verified game files, tried different version of proton, disabled steam cloud, etc. It work offline
Yep, tried that. It's to the point where I just want to say I think something shady is going on. Some users are complaining that the terms of service have changed recently (arbitration clause but I cannot confirm). Why not a) acknowledge this issue as something the team is investigating or b) say we want you to have an internet connection to play.
either way I think that might be worthy of a bug report or something, because afaik the game SHOULD be completely playable offline
Again I'm not asking for DRM-free. I'm just asking to play with Steam in Offline mode where after ex amount of days you have to go online to be re-verified
I can actually check that on my end, gimme a sec
thanks
I feel like this is obvious but do lockboxes spawn in solutional haunt and the other 2 new hidden realms?
unplugged my ethernet cable and the game booted up just fine, so this is probably a steam deck issue
nope
Does drone parts work with backup? I tried it recently and due to not using backup alot I couldn't tell if it was changing anything?
it does, yeah. Or at least it's supposed to
they should have the chainguns and stuff, along with the stat buffs
How many weak points do you have to break on the solus wing? 4? or is there another that I am not seeing
there are 4 total, but you still have to finish it off once they're all broken
each deals 18% of it's health, and also reduces shield
Copy that, just making sure I am not missing something.
What counts as "a buff" for the ||Functional Coupler|| yellow item? I wish I could post a picture to ask specifically but
i might be losing my mind HOW does the ||solus wing's expanding wall attack|| work??
that item doesn't interact with buffs in any way so I assume you mean a different one
it expands and deals damage to you if you touch it
why are the ziplines SOMETIMES invulnerable to it but not always???
i feel like the game tweaks out trying to read half of the boss' attacks
are you thinking of growth nectar?
nothing damages me consistently and it's getting on my nerves
Oh duh yeah. Growth Nectar
growth nectar works with any positive status effect
including cooldown buffs like bands
Interesting, okay thank you
I haven't experienced that at all, the expanding wall always hits me if I'm on a zipline
they do seem to give immunity to the laser grid though, and the grid also has gaps in it so sometimes you just get lucky and it won't hit you
I got through the virtual portal, but got tped to solutional haunt on the spot, what causes that?
Like it never sent me to conduit canyon
how does hikers boots damage scaling work with stacks? Assuming no crit initially, wouldnt 1 hikers boots give 21% damage? would 2 give 44% damage?
it stacks liniarly, doesnt it?
if you take the portal from stage 4 it skips conduit canyon
Life pro tip: Seed of life allow you to have multiple engineer turrets at once
Ohhhh gotcha
When a engineer turret get replaced it "dies"
However it get revived by the seed of life
from the wiki
huh what are the calculations
stack 1: 10% crit, 10% dmg increase, 10% x 10% = 1%, that plus the 10% dmg increase with crit means 11% dmg increase net
stack 2: 20% crit, 20% dmg increase, 20% x 20% = 4%, add 20% dmg increase = 24% net
and so on
same lol i just found out
it's NOT a 20% increase
the fact it works well with glasses and the fact that its another item that increases crit chance already makes it good
i would choose boots over watch if I can activate it as my character
for what it is, the numbers are fair, I just think its too easy to keep the buff up
big 2 damage items is now the big 3 damage items
you can activate it as anyone lol just jump and shoot a beetle
yep basically
its stupid easy
i really hope they dont nerf it though
if it was just a teensy bit harder to activate this would be pretty much perfect
yeah, it's fun already, and i wouldnt say its broken op
you shouldn't be able to rack up the whole thing by just pressing space tbh
it feels like the crits should only happen if you're hitting an enemy that's below you, instead of getting a buff that affects all of your attacks just by jumping
i initially thought it'd be more damage based on how much farther below the enemy is
I think that would be too harsh
so itd be really good on arti
yeah its unironically not that good on arti lol, others can rack it up faster
nano bomb is nice with it tho
i really think they should have kept it almost like an inverse focus crystal in that sense
that might be cool
maybe like up to 25% more damage based on how far below an enemy is relative to you
well that would just suck for melees no?
yeah probablty
well it's supposed to be situational, currently its very accessable to all
but items being better on some than others isnt a bad thing at all
idk, I think just having it decay slowly when you're not hitting stuff below you would be fine
it should decay like every half second
yeah I agree, but this is supposed to be an item that fixes the problem of crit being rare and laser scope being too situational etc.
shouldn't be that niche imo
idk, i stand with only critting when you are above
i really think scaling damage depend on how far above would keep it as like a B or C tier
they never nerfed watches so i really hope they dont nerf boots
id rather they dont touch it than give it the raincoat treatment yeah
I think crit chance in general is difficult to create items around, just because it becomes useless once you hit 100%
raincoat genuinely shouldnt exist
but gbx is pretty good at making those adjustments so im sure they'd nail it
tough to reach 100 most of the time
also boots means there's almost no reason not to take lost seers most of the time
How many boots would I need to match ten lens makers?
yeah but that's the thing, if you add more crit chance items, it'll get easier
but if it's easier to get to 100% then crit chance items become less useful
id rather boots be unhealthy than trash tier
yeah even 1 more crit item might just mess everything up
in terms of dps? 6 or 7
a broken game is better than a game where everything is bad
10 for crit chance
well yeah, but this is gbx not hopoo they wouldn't fuck that up
i could never get back into isaac after all the fun stuff got nerfed into the ground
did a pretty good job with seekers items rebalances, so I do want them to try their hand at it
i mean seekers items needed a rebalance, I actually think they did a great job of the AC items
honestly I wouldn't complain if they tweaked how crit chance works as a mechanic, just to make crit items easier to add
either have like, super crits if you go above 100%, or make crit chance hyperbolic but all crit chance items also increase crit damage
Is runic lens better with atg or shrimp?
red > green no?
either work
Atg have higher proc coefficient right?
yes, but you fire tons more shrimp
you're seeing a plasma shrimp on the floor and have an atg yes?
Ye
Ok thx
atgs themselves are more likely to proc runic lens since they have way higher damage, but shrimp is guaranteed to be procced off of the meteor
gbx really cooked with the items
you'd need a clover and some bands to want a single atg over more shrimp
atg vs shrimp matchups are always really confusing because their pros and cons kinda perfectly counter each other lol
lol
everything shrimp is bad at, atg is good at, and vice versa
I mean...theoretically yeah, except because of how void items work its usually just shrimp anyway
i really with there was a way to get rid of void items
yeah, that's why I tend to lean towards shrimp on average
you're never comparing an atg with one shrimp, it's always x atgs vs x+1 shrimp
Wdym?
you kinda can with wandering chef, they're used in a few recipes iirc
dunno if shrimp is one of them though
Ahh ok
at least on first loop i take plimp literally 100% of the time
yeah a void item has to be way worse than the normal one for your build to not take it
honestly even if I have clover, if im playing like commando with no bands I'd still take shrimp lol
i like it
I wish you could turn a void item thats on the floor into the original, would fix those choices
spurs is sick, kinda wish it stacked better
its a crutch for cap and engi early on
can eclipse be played multiplayer?
i think its neat to balance a bunch of move speed with no jumping
is it harder? or easier multi?
yes but the eclipse lvl is set to the lowest lvl of the characters everyone has picked
debatable, I'd say harder if you're not all at equal skill level
generally I'd say multiplayer is easier if everyone knows what they're doing, but harder if not, eclipse or otherwise
you also just need good coordination for items and stuff
depends, my multiplayer runs always end up slower than my singleplayer ones
like if you're all splitting green scrap, picking up random stuff because you like it, then it way harder than solo
i usually have a harder time on multiplayer, even on monsoon multiplayer vs e8 singleplayer
but good item management makes multiplayer a cake walk
actually I think drone respawning makes multi easier now
and you can typically get even crazier builds
like easier than solo
ngl drones dont do shit other than allowing dead ppl to get items
its just getting items
tc drone is super powerful, remember that you keep your items 👀
maybe freeze or tc280 have potenital?
I basically solo'd half of mithrix as a tc the other day
they also let dead players actually play the game instead of being stuck in spectator
and even gunner drone stacks bleed like crazy
if you pick the right drone for your build, its kinda nuts
i have always been the last to die on multiplayer so i havent really been able to test them out anyway
cooldowns, bleed, bands, that stuff you gotta factor into which drone you pick
i guess
wait does it
anything to just see tc280 more honestly
yeah
thats good to know
Btw has anyone tested if devotion let's you play as a leumarian
what do yall think about kinetic dampener?
Ik i misspelled that
chefs kiss, perfect item
it's just a worse opal
opal thats fun to build around
rare instance of them 'ripping off' an item from the first game but I like this one more
not necessarily
your build around is getting transcendance
it's an opal that can potentially tank multiple hits
I agree, a single one is def worse than opal
lunars are cheating, psg printer is good now
i mean yeah, in which case you likely didn't need the armor in the first place

but if you stack it with psgs its very good
yeah by itself it's just whatever
multiple kinetic dampeners i have found to be super good
it does sorta make me wish we had more shield items now lol
or maybe the shield that it grants should stack since it's so tiny anyway
like 3 dampeners and like 5 psgs is enough to be better than like 10 opals imo
i personally do not like spending 5-6 white scrap so that my green item becomes a rucker
nonono it is even more goated
it's also yet another item that rex isn't allowed to use
unintentional rex nerf #10000
I mean even on rex its a stunning bomb, not great but still nice
I just wouldn't lean into it on him
please, for god's sake, just let rex actually use out of danger items
rex is honestly super underrated on e8 but i still wish theyd just make his abilities not deal curse dmg
just another example of rex just not being built for this game lol
"You are allowed to have fun, as long you are not playing REX"
yep
I know it'll never happen but I honestly wouldn't mind if gearbox took a crack at reworking some of the hopoo characters
they have a tendency to make things a little stronger than they need to imo, but I like that their characters are way more fleshed out
hopoo had a habit of giving characters a single gimmick and just leaving it at that
which characters need a rework the most
hm
rex probs
well, maybe rework was the wrong word
but just touch them up a bit
off the top of my head i really just think rex, huntress, mult
they are all just run and shoot characters
eh, i think mul t is fine
mul t just feels the same as commando for me
but ive come to really really like commando over the years
I wouldn't mind Acrid getting some love, bro is basically just a default melee character but with poison
how do i get the drone after junk drone?
strike drone, summoned by 
an equipment
they shoulda just made turrets count as drones
...So this is how I found out I have too many drones
or like land drones
well you can scrap turrets in a drone scrapper
does longstanding solitude break war bonds? like if you have both does war bonds just never get any extra stacks
haven't tried it, but probably
yea iw as about to so i was curious
Hey, I have a question. I have the Alloyed Collection DLC and I want to know that if you press on the Access Node and decide not to go into the new portal, does it stay for upcoming stages or do I need to loop once to Stage 3 again?
you will have to loop to get another one
Oh ok, that makes sense. Is that recommended?
up to you, it's doable from stage 3 but probably easier if you loop
looping does mean enemies will be stronger but you'll have more items to work with
Hmm, ok thanks for answering
i'm curious actually about other ways of getting into the alloyed collective path i know of the AWU in siren's call is there anything else
i heard the new stage 4 has one too (not conduit canyon, the other one)
yeah, thew new stage 4 has a node, but other than that and AWU I don't know of any others
but on the few runs i didn't just go to conduit canyon i've never seen it
although it's possible that they can show up in lunar seers
Sorry to interrupt, Alloyed Collective question
Does the Trophy Hunter's Tricorn work on the Alloy Vulture?
Trying to get Operator's Not So Different, and... its difficult lol
in stage 4 there is another node that takes u directly to AW
it does
Holy shit-
Thanks a ton!
i believe solutional haunt does but not conduit canyon, not sure though
all stage 4s have a node too?
from what ive seen yeah
With our new friend the Operator, do we know which stat, roughly, affects the recharge rate of his main attack? Like, what fills the dots back in the quickest?
I've only seen it on thew new one
maybe it has a node only on the new AC stage 4 now that u mention it
pretty sure it's just attack speed?
if it can spawn on depths and sundered grove, then it's not guaranteed
About to start a run. Will test.
attack speed does, yeah
attack speed makes the charges load faster on top of making you fire faster if you're just holding it down
artificer works semi-similarly
Awesome! I'd suspected when I'd gotten a few Mochas, but I wasn't certain.
she used to not but this was thankfully amended sometime in the past
I think the arti thing is actually a bug, but they decided not to fix it lol
it wasn't in any patch notes so i guess that's not that surprising
iirc it was also one of the 8 trillion bugs added in the sots launch
generally they don't change the basegame characters unless it's necessary, but I don't think too many people were complaining about the arti thing
if i only got one dlc (for now) which one should i get?
SOTV is a simple one, SOTS is good now and AC can be pretty hard but its peak
they're all good so you can't really go wrong, but I'd say probably either SotV or AC as your first dlc
SotV expands on the normal gameplay loop and doesn't have anything overly complicated or difficult, but quality wise it's probably the weakest
SotS is good but it's very focused on the alternate route that it adds, and AC is just better imo
i think i'll get sotv
only downside to starting with AC is that it's a lot harder, and it's so good that the others might be disappointing lol (especially when it comes to final bosses)
does the bulkward map have two variants?
yeah, if u buy AC rn and then sotv u can get really dissappointed with the final boss 😭
i got some wierd variant i have never seen before
"Bulwark's Ambry has three additional variants that can appear: Aphelian Research, Tar Research, and Wisp Research." from the wiki
its from SOTS
Slow to build, but yeah, attack speed does affect Operator's primary attack. Thanks everyone!
guys pretty quick answer prettyp retty please
what does escape through the mainline portal mean? where do i go
Do you have to beat the solus wing to access the item combiner?
yes
means you'll leave and go to the next area
Before you go through it, you may wanna explore the area you're in a bit more though, if you haven't already
the portal on computational exchange, like the one on bazaar, the one you entered in
the mainline portal is the exit of the solutional haunt iirc
and its supposed to show up after fighting solus wing
where is the portal supposed to show up?
why's this dlc gotta have so many portals
The portal is its eyeball
theres a bug atm so if you dont see the eye in the middle it happened
cleanup drone strikes again
if you had a cleanup drone, you might be screwed
bro 😭
cleanup drone is proving to be worse than soup island
normally after the boss dies, its corpse spawns a portal to the next area
but if the cleanup drone eats its corpse, you're softlocked
i dont even have a cleanup drone he just exploded and im playing on swarm and theres no corpse
oh huh
so does swarms fuck it up too then?
I guess? seems weird that it would but who knows
my sibling plays swarms and he says it works
why isn’t mouse and keyboard working on console or is that not allowed
I don't think m+kb works on console
alright then i actually have no clue
only thing i know is that its a fairly known softlock at this point
weird thought
did you have
+
oh yeah i do remember hearing its not even immune to lost seers for whatever reason
and that none of the AC bosses were but i havent tested this myself
I think it's like a tp boss where seers doesn't proc on it directly, but an indirect hit with behemoth can kill it
thats how its supposed to work yes
i had heard reports that this isnt the case for some reason
well, normally final bosses have total immunity even with behemoth, but they forgot to add it
how does bandit's effect app;ication work?
that makes me wonder if you could also instakill it with zoea, since I think void implosions use the same damage type as seers
is it every pellet or every shot?
each pellet procs individually, with a 0.5 proc coeff
where's the legendary chest in the new stage 4?
look for golden trees
I had lenses
could u kill SPEX by proc of the brilliant behemoth and lost seers or is he actually well done
Did it just eat him completely????
yea, killing enemies with lens doesn't leave a corpse
no idea
if he's at least immune to the seers proc then behemoth wouldn't work, since seers wouldn't activate in the first place
cus ik u cant one-shot him, he justs gets to 1hp and regenerates instantly it isnt like newt
normally what you have to do is proc seers on a normal enemy, and then have the behemoth explosion hit a boss
i just have 330 hours on this game and i still dont know how u people know this things lol is intrguing to me
I've spent a lot of time testing stuff and hanging out with other nerdy people who know a lot about the game, lol
So with 4 players are items meant to be really scarce or am I just unlucky? Do the items not scale with players?
they do \
they're supposed to, anyway
game calls it "credits" the more players there are the more credits each stage has which lets it spawn more enemies and more chests
First play through of the dlc and my fat item ate the boss😭😭😭
i died with dios bro what happened 🙁
did u get ur items disabled?
idk i have no clue how the dlc works lol
just been raw dogging it
i died instantly too bruh
the solus invalidator projectile disables ur items
this fella
ah i might have just got super unlucky then
anyone have an ID on where exactly the ||Solutional Haunt|| log book is?
does faraday spur nullify/reduce fall damage? i swear it feels like i take fall dmg a lot less when i have it
especially if it's at 100%
also the alloy hunter super-mega-hyper laser™ disables them too (i think)
that mustve been it then
i was fighting him to the death
he had one health and the lasers were closing in
Recipe for molten purf?
atg + kjaro's
Ty
What precisely does Tinker do? I’m a bit confused and the wiki page isnt finished yet
gives u a copy of the item as a temporary and gives u scrap of the same rarity
can also swap items on printers and terminals
u can also use it on printers so the item can change up to 2 rerolls i think
If used on a item, turns it into scrap and a temporary copy of itself
If used on a printer or cauldron, rerolls what item it prints up to two times
If used on a multishop or choice node (encrusted key, halyconite blessing, void fields reward), rerolls the item
Oooo
That sounds perfect given drifter’s scrap buffs
u can farm green scrap like crazy
Unlimited health regen!
yeah being able to get speed and regen every run is nuts
yea if i understand how it works correctly it's probably one of the most overpowered skills in the game at full potential
i think you can feasibly scrap ltierally every healing item as tinker drifter
definitely more than makes up for a lot of drifter's failings
I hate flying enemies I hate flying enemies
i just tinker every healing item tbh, the green scrap buff is just that good
plus there's still the chance of finding an actually worthwhile printer to throw them all on like crit or goat hoofs
it's insane
you can comfortably also do it to half the boss items if you get any
what does one of mind do?
it gives u a 30m dome that blocks projectiles and reduces ally & self Skill Cooldown by 20%
and on death u explode for 100% damage and disable items but who cars abt that
ty
Wait how do you play drifter💔💔i still dont get them
uhhhh unlock tinker and farm scrap thats about it
Whats tinker
alt special
How do you get it
smack enemies with bag and throw trash at them
beat solus wing and open the backback in the same room where you originally unlocked her
Wait wdym by opening the backpack
theres a backpack where u unlock her
look around the room, there's a bunch of stuff you can interact with, including drifter's backpack
Is wecho usually worth keeping one around, or is its usefulness as a defensive item not that good?
i almost always scrap it if i see a good white printer tbh
atm it's bugged and a lot worse than it's supposed to be
wechos fine as a defensive item
its like always bugged so its value goes up with bugfix mods
it completely ignores osp and armor, so you can potentially end up taking way more damage with it than you otherwise would
when it works correctly it's alright though
I thought it was like a one time lifesaving item in a way that opal and safer spaces are
that's sorta what it's supposed to be
what mods fix the wecho bugs?
honestly i havent tested so this is just anecdote from 1 run but it seems really funny on drifter
because drifters insane green scrpa regen can heal youy back up before the lethal echo damage hits
I have wolfo fixes installed
how to get loader?
spreading out the damage gives you time to heal from it as it's happening, and the damage ticks can work with stuff like repulsion plate, tougher times, razorwire etc.
get to siren's call (stage 4) and break bird nests around the map
thinking of scrapping it - I have a backup mag printer and a mocha printer on this stage
on classic gamemode?
break 6 of them and you'll probably figure it out from there
highkey id just go full into mocha here honestly
oh shiet
is that how you run viend
@lavish jacinth thank you very much
should I scrap syringe and tougher times too
not syringe
backup mags not terrible but i think this early in the run full mochaing sets you up really nice for success
viend has incredible healing from his r, espeically pre eclipse healing nerf
you dont ahve any damage items aside from syringe- backup mag is ok but i think in th econtext of a mocha printer it will always be worth less here. the early speed and attack speed is just sooo good, also means you can rely on transformed form a bit less for dmage and movement
there's no harm in keeping the TT, I would keep it
whetheer you keep the syringe is personal preference
i personally would turn it into a mocha because i hate using viends shift for mobility and wnat to get speed on him as soon as possible so i can actually move
his base form shift is so ass
do people usually run viend full corrupted
idk what the meta is
does anyone know what the "Of One Mind" aspect does for you?
do I scrap everything into mocha lowkey
personally i hate playing wtih viends transform because it freezes you in place
and thehealing in base form is sooo good
but then you have to deal with his awful base shift and wimpy feeling m1 (which isnt that bad but the sfx are soo underwhelming(
ultimately i just dont like vien d
personally i think id be dangerous and turn everything except the sticky bomb into mohca
gives you a 30m bubble shield that blocks projectiles and reduces cooldowns by 25%
when in doubt it's always good to go for variety over stacking one "optimal" thing
I'd take the sticky, damage is king
is it 20% or 25%??
wiki says 25%
my thought proccess is like
on e1 viend has incedible survivability from his r, so i feel safe turning a tougher times into damage and speed
antlers is good but a mocha is better, especially with the sticky bomb- turning everything but the sticky bomb into mocha means you have good pseed, a passable m1, and a actual proc to use that m1 on
which leaves you with speed, boss burst (from his corrupted form), good base damage with atk speed and sticky bomb, and healing
and from there that means you have the entire rest of the run to keep looking for aoe, for more single target damage, and real defense
wiki.gg says 20% lol
oh, it said 25% yesterday lmao
my thought process is that I like sticky bomb 
sticky bomb so goated
i feel like i find barely any drones when playing operator
but genuinely, perfect itemization really isn't something you have to worry about too much, it's just something to help make runs better. Rule of thumb is damage > speed > defense > healing, and you almost always wanna go for variety over stacking, especially with items that can multiply each other (like attack speed and procs in this case)
As long as you loosely follow that rule, you'll probably be fine
how do u do dmg as drifter when theres almost no way to get junk during bosses
rngjesus doing a funny
smack the boss
OH BABY got a cred card
my smacks do negative dmg :(
then smack MORE
yeah, but hitting them drops junk
So I’ve seen conflicting info on this and so I’m not really sure. Does swarms actually get you more items if you have sacrifice on, or no?
why didnt the achievement pop????? i literally did exactly what it told me to do
ive got a question for people who understand how solus heart works
my question \/
||are there damage zones or something when they do the attack four lasers appearing on opposite sides of the arena? the one that converges are the middle like:
⬜▶️⬛⬛
⬜▶️⬛⬛
⬛⬛◀️⬜
⬛⬛◀️⬜ ||
||im asking because i was playing operator and i flew up in the sky behind one of the lasers trying to land onto the platform that reappears after it disintegrates it but then died due to ticking damage
and i still dont know why that happened cause i dodged the laser||
i think it works like a "floor is lava" type thing but i havent gotten to solus heart that much to know everything, the dlc doesnt even has a week of age lol
idk i was just in the air and i died
dont think it was due to any projectile either unless i didnt see the big guy shoot stuff at me
Remember that the red floor just removes your items temporarily, it doesn’t kill you
You can walk on it if you need to escape an attack
oh i thought it actively damaged you
It might if you stay too long I’m not sure
But I’ll jump on it for a second to escape and then get back to safety
is there like a memory leak problem or something??? im seeing a lot of people saying the game crashes or drops to low fps roughly 1 hour into a run
I play on pc and ive been doing just fine in multi loop runs
yeah me too but only one time while fighting AH the fps dropped to -1 and got killed randomly
Alloy Hunter kinda do that i feel. Either i melt her or she melts me
||is there any way to reaccess computational exchange? one of our players hit spec with fmp.||
you can get another portal if you kill alloy worship unit, but that's the only way to get back
how much armor does solus wing have?
what about with an access node on repuirposed crater?
afaik access nodes don't spawn at all once you've been there
1000 😭
It's probably adaptive armor like other final bosses
it scales with your dps up to a max of 400 (assuming it works the same for solus wing as it does for the others)
solus wing does not have adaptive armor
are you sure?
how does one make use of junk cube
considering i have torn it apart in mere seconds with a build mithrix can shrug off due to boss armor? yeah, pretty sure.
I've also fought it with very strong builds and its resisted pretty well
late but you can also smash already-opened chests and barrels for a lot of scrap. i do this often to top off the meter.
and it seems to take a pretty similar amount of damage regardless of how strong my build is, and boss armor is just kinda standard for final bosses
hi i have like 110 hours and i got every ability and this game lowk getting boring what do i do?
eclipse
uhhh challenge yourself. only take white items and beat mithrix, or try to crash the game with missiles
i can barely even do runs solo 😭
then make it your goal to get better at it
does anyone know if the ||decompile ending|| counts for monsoon skin unlocks?
How do I decrypt the round yellow thing
On computational exchange
Faxmachine is already typing so kust wait the answer lol
||on the left side of the room there's a wandering chef, use him to combine the encrypted cerebrum with another item, then give it to spex||
He probably will explain it better than me
lol
Ok thanks
||a few different items will work btw, sentry keys, prison matrix, rusted/encrusted keys, and I think empathy cores and orphaned core||
Follow-up, ||do I enter the red portal it spawned? The challenge said I needed to reject the offering||
Am I good or nah
||yeah, go through the portal. spex isn't the one that makes the offering||
ur good
it's about to get peak-er 
Is it possible to kill false son 2 times in 1 run
I would assume if you can get back into the storm after beating him, yes?
green portals stop spawning once he's dead, but I think maaaybe it's possible via lunar seers? they might've fixed that though
it sucks cause I just beat him for the first time today with a friend, but we didn't get a halcion (halcyion?) seed before we got to him
I killed him and was able to get to the first green portal but after that it would kick me out of the green portals and force me on the regular track
If that makes sense
hm
well either way, I'm pretty sure you can't fight him more than once, or if you can it's not intended
I think its so you can still unlock the chef even if you've beaten false son
I’m assuming you can’t tho it would make story wise 
that would make sense yeah
Anyway... operator in multiplayer is amazing
Lol
So do operators drones have unique stats or is it cosmetic?
They repair themselves when destroyed, but otherwise i think its cosmetic (and also permanent)
Ohh right
Alrighty then
Is there a reliable way to get to the Gilded Coast? I am losing my mind trying to get there to unlock the False Son.
best way to get there is through the bazaar
gilded coast has a decently high chance to show up in one of the lunar seers
it's not guaranteed but it's just under a 30% chance per visit iirc
You can get there from Halcyon Shrines after activating the first one to get on the Path of the Colosses too, right?
yep
but the bazaar is the best method by far, and if you don't get a green portal on gilded coast then the bazaar also has a way to spawn one
yes it is
if you're on a valid stage for a green portal there'll be 3 geodes hidden around the bazaar that you can break to spawn one
you can enter prime meridian a second time from the bazar for example
I’ve had runs where I’ve fought him 3+ times
Is it js the void seer cuz I couldn’t get it and I tried like 7 times
yeah use the lunar seers at the bazaar and try to end up on path of colossus stages, guilded coast, etc - try to be at the bazaar specifically targeting stage 4 to maximize the RNG since the pool of possible stages is the smallest but this is less effective now that AC is out
tbh it’s not consistent, and I don’t fully understand what determines whether or not you can continue to take green portals to fight him again. sometimes for example - I will end up in the guided coast after I’ve beat him once and a green portal won’t spawn after defeating auriellonite - only gold. it might have to do with the stage you are on (could be that he’s not accessible after stage 4), and im assuming it’s once per loop
but all I know is that it’s definitely possible at the very least within the last few months and that me and my buddies have done many runs where we beat him more than once while looping
I’ve also watched videos by rndThursday I think where he beats him more than once in a single run so there is documented “evidence” of this
How does prayer beads work?
I almost always toss em in the scrapper first chance I get
it's basically like a second xp bar
I know it improves your stats on removal
After completing the hayclon shrine (or wtv it’s called) it summons a green portal or gold portal it’s usually green unless your on stage 4 or 3 specific environments
It’s listed in the wiki
when you get rid of them, each stack of the beads buff gives you permanent stats equal to a % of what you'd get from leveling up, depending on how many item stacks you had when you scrapped them
you can watch how he does it here ig and try to replicate it
Rereading that it sounds so mean 😭😭 I didn’t mean it to sound like that 
I meant it’s inconsistent for doing it the second time around, I understand the criteria lolol
lol no worries I didn’t interpret it that way
but yeah, watch that video. definitively the answer is yes, it’s possible and that video shows at least 1 method to doing it
ideally you do wanna level them up a bit
scrapping them with ~20 stacks of the beads buff is usually ideal, it's equal to 3-4 levels worth of stats, which can easily be like a 20% increase depending on what level you're at
Is it a waste of time to get the halcyon shrine on stage one (monsoon)
Especially after doing the teleporter?
nope not at all, but I usually do it before the teleporter
since it works exactly like your normal xp bar, the amount of xp needed increases with each "level", so it goes really slowly past like lv20
it's absolutely worth it
i always do it pre tp for items
How it takes like 200 something gold to get it fully xharged
it spawns waves of enemies (usually golems) you can farm for lots of cash
I would say most players do it before the teleporter
300 gold total, but it's pretty easy to get honestly
the amount of gold enemies drop increases the longer you're on the stage
in general you shouldn’t worry about time as long as you are picking up items
it's usually the last thing I get before tp, I typically have like 100-200 gold accumulated
Yeah but 80 gold basic chests always feels like a slog
yeah, I don’t do it right away either - I would say 100 gold going in is abt the right amount
Especially without a brittle crown or tome
From the 2 hours of trying to get back to the fight I’m like 50% sure there is no other way to do it
and it is absolutely worth it in terms of time and gold
it takes 60 seconds to charge plus however long it takes to kill halcyonite, and you get 3 items with a very good loot table
But I may be wrong 😔
its best to get every time from every stage
the halcyon shrine is included in this even moreso- it gives almost only good items and lets you choose those items
yeah it's slow initially, but it picks up over time
the reality is the director spawns a finite amount of items per stage so NOT doing the halcyon shrine is equivalent to not picking up chests that would of otherwise spawned in its place
will this game ever be true cross platform :(
halcyon shrine on stage = necessarily less director points to spend everything else including chests
so not making use of it is a detriment
aren't halcyon shrines specifically cheaper on stage 1?
regardless of credits not doing halcyon shrine is leaving items on the floor
yeah
more items = more power = more won runs
it's extremely time-efficient (even if charging feels slow) and the gold cost is no big deal as long as you don't do it at the very start of a stage
i usually hit it before tp, then use the green portal after killinhg the tp boss to skip charging tp
don't hold your breath for it
in general items > time. as long as you are picking up items consistently time isn’t that important - the largest difficulty jumps (about 15%) come from moving to the next stage anyways.
i have won e8 runs taking 18 minutes a stage time is soooo fake
Actually that reminds me
yea, and if you are really worried about it - I feel like a good check is 1 item per minute of game time. if you hit tab and your # of items is the more than the game time in the top right, you are fine. if you do void fields you will easily have double that number anyways
Siphoned forest has the most item credits for stage 1
Is green portal always better than reg stage 2?
a bit yeah
Credit wise
only slightly, but yeah iirc
I am a bazaar chud so I hardly ever take path of colossus
only at the last minute to go to prime meridian
through the bazaar usually
you can also go for bands from aqueduct
halycon shrine from stage 1, take grene portal mid tp, clear reformed atlar, go back to regular path is a very very good path
i get really bored of reformed altar so i skip it sometmre
you dream of sand beneath your feet chads vs green portal incels
i'm definitely always going duct with drifter for the sweet cube bands
if you truly wanna maximize loot, I thiiiink the ideal route would be
stage 1 > reformed altar > gilded coast (if you can get it) > treeborn > gilded coast again > prime meridian > stage 4 > void fields > stage 5
(I'm not sure where the AC stages stand credit-wise, but I'm assuming they aren't any better than the colossus stages
i think hitting exchange is alwyas gonna be better bcuz of recipes
interesting. me and my buddies always do void fields immediately
like right after stage 1
and I do it that way solo too ig
doesn’t void fields just get much harder for no more reward if you wait
it depends on how able you are to loot it
you could also do it after stage 2 I guess
I ordered it like that because I think you have a slightly higher chance of getting a gold portal on the colossus stages, and ideally you do wanna hit up coast because you get better loot from false son if you have a halcyon seed
it can get brutal to do vf early, and while it gets harder later it also gets a bit easier to loot in some ways because you can have speed, regen, and the extra gold from killing guys
obviously this is assuming perfect rng with gold portals and void fields not screwing you over
theres a nice sweetspot where you can hit gups as your round one enemy, kill them, loot all the items on the stage, leave without purging any cells, free loot
(this is REALLY easy on drifter too)
Anther 50 ninja stars to the blind pests
(obviously full clearingt he cells is more loot, but i think a lot of people underrate the ability to just pop in, start a wave to kill the enemies for gold, take all the stuff on the floor, and get out. lets you look for scrappers, printers, use your sale stars, use keys, and with the right build its very low opportunity cost- forcing yourself to do all 9 cells is such a investgment)
I guess I just value the snowball of doing VF earlier. the extra items are most impactful the earlier you get them and since it’s difficulty scales with everything else it’s easiest to do earlier in my opinion. but I think it can be tough on certain characters who don’t have mobility to get from vent to vent
never thought of doing this
vf is definitely in a tough spot consistency wise
like i said drfiter 100% has the best time with it because of her guaranteed speed and regen with tinker
very easy to get the white scrap and green scrap to outdamage the fog, loot the place, and leave every run
drifter is a lot of fun. the concept of just always having speed and regen is pretty crazy
and that’s like the underrated part of her kit
im a little too obsessed with rerolling printers with her though, I never end up having white scrap at the end of stage 1 lol always find something to spend it on
this is also probably possible with false son with meridians will
he can hang out in the void fog for an unreasonable amount of time especially if you grab a stone flux pauldron from from the bazaar before heading in
huh never considered that
one day i will unlock that ability i just dont feel like it
it’s SO busted on him
Do some of the new drones like the ice and bombardment have spawn conditions behind them? I’ve done loops and plenty runs and haven’t seen a single of either yet not even in drone shops
but incredibly annoying to unlock I agree. I had to do 3-4 runs because I kept killing Mithrix by accident
they're just rare, and I think they only spawn on certain stages (not sure which ones yet though)
I know I've seen them both on conduit canyon
false son all alternate loadout is impossible to lose with if you use lunars
big tip: move interactables with the bag into one area, so one tinker can hit all of them
sometimes drones don't get added to spawn pools until after a loop too, emergency drones are like that on some stages iirc
Noted because when I play operator it feels like all I see are the standard drones then junk and transport with occasionally a jailer drone
Just want to try the funny little new guys, thanks for the help though I’ll just spam the new stages probably
I watched the youtuber Race do this and have been doing it since
im trying to figure out how to fly with drifter and cube that’s the tech I really need to learn
seen lots of videos of people gaining what seems like infinite height by chaining them together
Whats the actual solution to the || Alloy Hunter ||? Is the laser just must dodge behind pillar? it obliterates you. Died 3x now.
it has a really long windup as well, the lasers spread out to the side and slowly focus in on you
Neat. Anything else to keep track of?
uhh not really, just keep moving and watch for its telegraphs
Yo.
I just ran into an Umbra Mul-T without having any artifacts on. I’ve never encountered it and only read about it on the Wiki, so it scared the bajeebies out of me since I was under the understanding they’re quite powerful. I took it out with relative ease but I’m confused as to why it appeared. Any reason it might’ve popped up, or was it a glitch? I had finished fighting the Solus Wing and spent a good bit of time making sure I didn’t miss anything important (mostly making sure I unlocked Drifter) when it suddenly appeared.
it's just a scripted encounter in that area
no idea why, I'm sure the lore people could explain it lol
Is it always Mul-T?
yep
It’s probably a joke about HAN-D tbh
How odd.
I wondered if it might be related to the Hand bot located there. i was so scared to interact with it thinking it would go all mini-boss on me and clap my cheeks.
nah, the dead han-d is chill, he just spits out a few random items if you interact with him
Jumpscared
Yeah, I had enough courage to find out it was no harm at all. 👍
Why are chinese lobbies like this
Absolutely LOL.
The real terror was the Solus Heart. After it wiped the floor with me and flung my lifeless body into the air, my body hit the red laser floor offstage of the boss fight and it looked like my body got disintegrated. Is that red laser floor instant death?
What in the world am I looking at here.
quick question: after activating the node which teleports u to the new DLC boss, are you able to find another node during looping? or is it a one and done thing per loop
if you've already been to the dlc area once, the nodes will stop spawning entirely. the only way to get back is to kill alloy worship unit for a portal
no, AWU is the secret boss on siren's call, it can only spawn on that stage
ahhhh right i forgor
yea, me and friend were gonna do the ending where we offered to the guy, but friend has the gesture of the drowned + missile combo so we hit him and we couldnt do that anymore haha
yeah, it's really annoying how easily you can get screwed over there
at least we on command so we're gonna try not buying any automatic attack items
jm gonna assume drones dont shoot him
yeah, drones leave him alone
but stuff like missile launcher or tesla coil can target him
is seed of life supposed to work when you have functional coupler? I had it as my second equipment but it didnt activate
🙁
is the music on the new stages more quiet than on the old ones for anyone else
Is it only possible to combine equipment drones if they have the same equipment, or are they uncombinable?

