#ror2-game-questions

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stone blade
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why did my cleansing pool give me infinite orbs

terse belfry
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just me or is finding portals the the hardest thing in this game? ive been looking around the entire map for 20 minutes and cant find it. People saying there is like red glowy things. cant seem to find any

regal holly
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I wonder why they didn’t make skins for the SoV and SotS survivors

hollow nymph
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what item properties does tinkerer mess with

wintry crag
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Is Operator’s alternate secondary ability good? I feel like each drone having their own special is too good to pass up

primal vector
wintry crag
willow iris
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Can you see beat both false son and the AC boss in one run or are they mutually exclusive?

primal vector
livid wedge
primal vector
wintry crag
primal vector
hollow nymph
primal vector
wintry crag
primal vector
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It also works very well with the alt special

stone blade
ornate tangle
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any major game shattering bugs with the dlc? im about to boot it up and dont want it to be unplayable, im very excited

primal vector
ornate tangle
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ohhh? whats up in mp

primal vector
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Some people have reported crashes and such. But seems quite uncommon

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And you know, it may as well be caused by mods or other stuff. Someone said they figured out it was because they were using a vpn🤷‍♂️

ornate tangle
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ohhhh

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thanks!

deft flicker
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So I was playing the new DLC with the others yesterday and I went and killed Voidling after killing the ||Heart and taking the portal to the void|| and when I killed it ||some weird spiral staircase looking structure like the one in the middle of the void locus came out of the middle of the boss arena and had a pedestal at the top that didn't do anything when I interacted with it.|| Anyone know what this is? I can't recall ever encountering it previously in the past. I was using a few mods but I don't think any of them would have had such an effect, they're all skill and qol mods for the most part

reef walrus
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havent hopped in a run with him yet but does engineer's turrets double their items with substandard duplicator like in risk of rain returns in ror2 or does it work different here

humble summit
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What even is the point of CHIRP?

Ive been playing operator a lot and trying to expirement with things however the one thing I cant really get behind is CHIRP

Transport drones already feel rather weak to me, boasting not that great of damage it feels and taking too long between attacks, and the admin override ability seeming to just do the same attack but quicker

CHIRP allows you to move chests but I seriously dont see the point of it at all

chilly laurel
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Can we activate again the stone to get to the new DLC area more than once in the same run?

dapper osprey
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Hi there guys! I have a huge question.
Can I revive the Chef in some way? I think I messed up in this new DLC. Right after I killed the Solus King and went to the last portal, i didnt know I would have an encounter with The Chef, and I dont know If it was me or my minions that made the whole mess in such a small place, but I ended up killing The Chef before I even knew it was friendly and I should lend him some items HAHAHA so now I think Im stuck. Any suggestions? I already passed 2 times the same run, through the same portal but I could find again The Chef… But when I tried to offer the ‘Encrypted Cerebellum’ to the Solus Unit, it said that i had to “revive the enemy”… So… Is there a way to actually revive him on the same run? 🥹

gentle moss
chilly laurel
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what's awu

gentle moss
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also rarely a virtual portal will just spawn

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Alloy Worship Unit

chilly laurel
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ahh ok thanks a lot

radiant sundial
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is there a resource somewhere of a complete logbook updated for the dlc? im not sure which entries are the ones im missing

gentle moss
potent plank
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Anyone else running into the issue of Artifact of Sacrifice not working past the first round ?

past monolith
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have we figured out what makes headstompers sometimes not work?

livid gull
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does anyone have the thing where temporary beads/sale stars just turn into old guillotines?

livid wedge
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You get a random item of the same rarity instead

gentle moss
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yeah i was gonna say

livid gull
dapper osprey
gentle moss
hidden siren
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Any tips on how to kill a boss using shrine of the mountain for the drifter utility?

gentle moss
dapper osprey
gentle moss
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ive killed newt dozens of times

dapper osprey
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lol

hidden siren
gentle moss
hidden siren
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What would you guys say are the best duo combinations with railgunner and void fiend?

gentle moss
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do you mean like, synergistic items? or chef crafting recipe's?

jaunty furnace
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like, which character the other person should pick?

dense viper
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is using the artifact of dissonance and kin a good way to get gesture of the drowned unlock or should i just do it on loop?

radiant sundial
pallid tangle
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So I just noticed big sale on the game and was thinking about buying it and I know this is the server but how worth is it and does it get repetetive after few hours?

frail garden
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Guys where is the logbook for the new stage 5

placid cypress
radiant sundial
glacial salmon
dense viper
glacial salmon
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no problem man, i havent tried it but im pretty sure it should work

dense viper
glacial salmon
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oh

primal vector
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I hope you didnt touch any file without doing security copies

glacial salmon
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whats a security copy

dense viper
primal vector
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a copy in separate and secure place of a file so in case something goes terribly wrong you can just recover the original file

glacial salmon
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i see

proven coyote
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it is not sadly 💔

gentle moss
# radiant sundial also these two

Thats tc-280 (solus wing location has a garunteed one somewhere and freeze drone , ive only seen one freeze drone on conduit canyon

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I had to go to work so i'll look at the video in a bit

radiant sundial
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same xd but tysm!

dense viper
rough ledge
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Where do you go to free the backpack in the solutional haunt as drifter? I swear ive looked everywhere

gentle moss
inner prawn
rough ledge
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found it! Thank you

glacial salmon
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i got a 7 so im pretty good

gentle moss
inner prawn
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well. you could've said anything about backing up data? or suggested something you know would work instead of throwing out something random

glacial salmon
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i didnt know about security copies

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i see what i did wrong now, but ive apologised

gentle moss
meager nest
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Guys is the war bonds item against false son good?

gentle moss
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Warbonds are awesome! (Bad)

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They sure do function

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During each phase too, its just that i usually melt the false son before the warbonds even go off

west comet
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||if i got kicked out by spex bc of my items after giving him the cerebellum, can i get another cerebellum and get back?||

radiant sundial
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are any of these environment logs? of just scanners

primal plinth
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guys, is there any mod that adds lunar coins in the normal game? Farming it takes so much time

hasty tinsel
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Quick question regarding Bandit's hemorrage from m2 btw, are the bleed stacks tracked separately on it or does each new stack refresh the timer for all of them?

autumn pumice
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hi, how do you chain drones with operator’s mobility skill? idk if im too bad but i cant see a consistent way to get that second grab

glossy hearth
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what portal do i enter

hasty tinsel
glossy hearth
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im guessing the left one will take me back to the normal loop

hasty tinsel
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Digital's to return to normal stages, deep void is for deep void.

glossy hearth
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ok

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thanks

fiery dust
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so.. im so convinced everyone who says drifter is good is either bad or im just missing something (prolly latter). ive done every strat ive hear (get the new legendary, turn everything to scrap, use temp items) and he still pales in comparison to nearly every character, i did 800k dmg while my friend did lik 200mil so why does drifter feel so buns

gentle moss
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Drifter is good trust. I love her

inner prawn
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those seem like general tips for the character but how are you playing them fundamentally? like using their skills

fiery dust
gentle moss
inner prawn
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drifter in my experience likes to spam whatever she can at enemies, cleanup and cube can both snipe enemies or you can repossess to target them specifically

fiery dust
gentle moss
nocturne sierra
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Does anyone know what the freeze drones special ability with operator is?

scarlet sleet
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are there any new artifacts in the new DLC?

nocturne sierra
deft flicker
dapper osprey
fiery dust
dapper osprey
nocturne sierra
dapper osprey
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It was a fun run tho, thanks for the help!

past monolith
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have we figured out what causes headset to not work sometimes?

lime fjord
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is blight or poison better for Acrid?

proven venture
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What’s the best item in the dlc? Excluding the food items?

slim radish
proven venture
lime fjord
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interesting, thank you

slim radish
warped wagon
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can u only use access node once per run? ive looped to stage 3s a few times but only used it once

raw garden
warped wagon
slim radish
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same unfortunately

warped wagon
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that sucks cause i got a crazy run going and id solo the boss quick

raw garden
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Fucking ridiculous what were they thinking???

warped wagon
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full agree

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i get it for the bazaar cause whatever but for that shit

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u gotta kill prob the second hardest boss in the game just to get there

raw garden
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And the fact you can only access it once too

ornate tangle
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guys are my friends crazy? they keep saying the new dlc adds something that lets you spawn in as a drone? or respawn as a drone? is this a real thing or are they crazy crazy

tender temple
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It is in fact true

naive tree
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I thought you could kill the Alloy Worship Unit to get another encrypted portal to spawn

gentle moss
slim radish
torn lantern
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How do I even unlock the new engineer skin, I have tried to leave an offering of items and it just spits them out no matter what. 1 hour wasted every time

gentle moss
torn lantern
warped wagon
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on that secret map, you can find chef on the left

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he lets you combine items, you have to combine the boss item from the solus wing with any type of key, and then offer that item up

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it spits out any other item

torn lantern
warped wagon
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👍

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you can combine other items at chef too, he can give you unique items you cant get anywhere else

hexed karma
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Alloyed Collective boss question: ||What do you do when everything lights on fire from the heat thingies?||

lime fjord
jaunty furnace
stray nova
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hey does anyone know how to fix the resolution settings not working it just keeps me stuck at 60hz

untold tinsel
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How do you play drifter

kindred herald
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does conduit canyon have a newt altar?

gentle moss
gentle moss
gentle moss
kindred herald
gentle moss
kindred herald
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idk if ill be able to beat the boss and the +15% speed + equipment multishop + chance for the boss item is nice
but also im just curious

crude flame
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why does it vary which characters you ||reject or accept the offering of the collective on||? Is there a lore reason?

ancient violet
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How many clovers for the ||worms|| 10% chance to be increased to 100%?

nocturne sierra
brittle shuttle
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Like yeah bandit the thief would accept immortality

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Rex whose mission is to just protect the plant would accept immortality

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Commando? Probably not

ancient violet
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Who would win ||solus wing|| vs grandparent with ||collective elite?||

errant ibex
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Is there a guaranteed red on the new stage 4?

ancient violet
errant ibex
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Where?

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Is it a boss

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Or a chest

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I could probably just look it up on yt

ancient violet
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It’s a chest you can see it from the far prism receiver thingy

errant ibex
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Ok

livid wedge
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No amount of clovers will give 100%

dense viper
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does anyone know what ||spex's bargain protocol|| is

livid wedge
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It just gives an additional chance at succeeding a random roll

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It is still possible to fail all additional rolls as well

glacial salmon
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if you get kicked out of ||spex's place is there any way to get back in||

livid wedge
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The new stage 4s legendary chest is near the gold leafed trees

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Look for those and you'll find the chest

torn lantern
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Is there a way to not go in the deep void portal😭

livid wedge
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If you're in the void locus, that's the only path

ancient violet
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Dan reloaded the map using mods and it was open again

ancient violet
lavish jacinth
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Nodes stop spawning after you've been there once

livid wedge
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To get something from 10 to 90?

ancient violet
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Yeah I want a really high chance of worms

glacial salmon
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because we;re doing that now

livid wedge
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22 clovers

lavish jacinth
livid wedge
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Wait, 21

stone blade
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when im doing false son the golden orb wont spawn, am i unlucky or do i need to do it once

lavish jacinth
wooden topaz
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do we let spoilers in here? the ||big orb boss guy that you kill to unlock drifter||, how do you deal with the ||attack that cooks the entire area||

errant ibex
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Whats the the new artifact code

errant ibex
lavish jacinth
# wooden topaz do we let spoilers in here? the ||big orb boss guy that you kill to unlock drift...

yeah, spoilers are fine as long as you use the spoiler tag
||when that attack happens there are two ways to deal with it, on the lower floors there are hydrants you can break to create a cold zone that extinguishes fire and protects you from the heat. Higher up there are heat vents that'll stop the attack entirely if you break all of them, although it can be beneficial to only break the hydrants since the heat can damage the boss once they're destroyed||

errant ibex
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Whats the new artifact code

livid wedge
ebon lily
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When my friends enabled crossplay (on PC Steam) they did not get a popup that said 'link your epic games account like I did. Is there any way to force this to appear for them?

lavish jacinth
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it's notoriously unstable and basically useless anyway

ebon lily
lavish jacinth
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oh, rip

ebon lily
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Yeah annoyed. They've tried relaunch the game and reenable crossplay and its not popped up for them

lavish jacinth
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crossplay being barely functional as usual

ebon lily
lavish jacinth
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yep

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fingers crossed that they eventually fix ror2's godawful netcode

red scaffold
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i hate the scorcher enemies so much

wintry crag
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Is it generally better to use the node on stage 3 or stage 8

red scaffold
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im so not used to their movement i can't land my desperado shots

lavish jacinth
stiff nebula
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how are you even supposed to survive phase 4 of the ||solus wing|| fight
i just keep getting hit with insane stacks of burning damage over and over until i die

willow crescent
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Hello, how tf can I kill a boss in 5 seconds with the engineer

lavish jacinth
smoky prawn
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do i still get the skin for the survivor i picked if i turn into the heretic

smoky prawn
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thank you king

pulsar halo
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Can anyone tell me what the "nano-bugged" status effect does?

livid wedge
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It should tell you in survivor select if you hover over the skill

sullen fractal
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Whats the condition for being revived as a drone? I get revived randomly and i have no clue how it works

sullen fractal
pulsar halo
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oh that must be new then, I haven't played MP since the new DLC was released

south scaffold
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Hey, does anyone know if the Radio Scanner bug for Viscous Falls, Disturbed Impact, and I guess now Iron Auroras is still a thing? (I also can’t seem to find the Radio Scanner for Repurposed Crater either…)
I did a looped run with the whole Command + Sacrifice thing and after an hour and 30 minutes I still had nothing…
Am I just horribly unlucky??

primal vector
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The patch notes say it was fixed

mystic vine
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hey, haven't played in a while and can't remember whether this pedestal is part of the game or some mod addition?
I don't remember seeing it ever before

lavish jacinth
wintry crag
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How do you encounter the new stages?

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Like is it just in normal rotation bc I see it says 6 new ones

lavish jacinth
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they're in the normal rotation, aside from the ones you reach with the digital portal

wise kiln
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HMMM there's a single drone i dont have unlocked, i can't even tell

livid wedge
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Iron affluvium is one of them

lavish jacinth
mystic vine
livid wedge
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Oh, alluvium

lavish jacinth
wise kiln
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OHHH that's why i can't point pictures

polar kestrel
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Can anyone the ||artifact of prestige|| even if they don’t own the new dlc?

wintry fjord
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if you are playing drifter on command do you get command essenses for her special

wintry fjord
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but theyre still temp?

polar kestrel
nocturne sierra
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Is operator a robot or a human?

wintry crag
clear whale
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dlc sharing is nice

polar kestrel
livid wedge
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No

clear whale
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Afaik nope

livid wedge
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Which is really weird

clear whale
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DLC achievements are locked behind dlcs

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Even if one of your mate have the dlc you cannot get them

livid wedge
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I get why rebirth is locked behind sots but prestige should've been base game

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No reason to not

clear whale
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Achievements are what triggers unlocks

livid wedge
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I know and I think it still should've been a base game achievement

twin cedar
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For the alternate version of lights out do I have the kill Mithrix with it or can it be voidling or false son?

livid wedge
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I'm pretty sure it's mithrix

primal plume
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where does solus wings's log drop when it does drop?

lavish jacinth
wise kiln
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can u be under him when he dies and get it

lavish jacinth
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maybe, I haven't been able to test it

wise kiln
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yeah ill try in a bit

lavish jacinth
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but I think there's also a risk that the boss falls on you and you get stuck lol

twin cedar
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Okay now I gotta know does the item that one shots bosses one shot the "final bosses"

lavish jacinth
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tricorn? no

teal fern
lavish jacinth
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I would assume the actual logbook drop works fine

ancient violet
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So can someone please tell me what I’m missing

wintry fjord
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freeze drone col droneman

lavish jacinth
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they have droneboy

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the other missing one is barrier drone

wintry fjord
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oh riight

ancient violet
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Oh drone man right lol

wintry fjord
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also can someone explain how luck works? if i have a 50% chance for something does it make it a hundred or whats going on

lavish jacinth
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so if you have a 50% chance and 1 luck, you would have two 50% chances

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if luck is negative then it rerolls successful procs instead, essentially making it so they have to succeed multiple times in a row

wintry fjord
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ooohhhh

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ty

ancient violet
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Wait a second did they break the character thing?

lavish jacinth
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what character thing

ancient violet
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When you turn off a dlc you don’t have to access to those characters

lavish jacinth
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oh, huh

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maybe they did break it

leaden blade
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Does the new stage four "repurposed crater" have a legendary chest on it?

lavish jacinth
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there are multiple locations for it, they're marked by gold trees though

teal fern
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that's so cool

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TIL

leaden blade
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Immediately found it after you said gold trees

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Thank you both!

proud rivet
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Hello, I've tried everything on the internet to see if I can play this game in Steam Offline Mode or Airplane mode. No bueno I run into a Steamworks Integration Error, but now I'm wondering why Hopoo or 2k doesn't just say this game requires an Internet Connection.

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As a steam deck user I think this would be helpful when buying

lavish jacinth
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although maybe it's different for steam deck

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normally, you can fix the integration error bug by manually killing steam with task manager, but I don't know if that's even possible on steam deck, and this may be an unrelated problem anyway

proud rivet
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Thanks for the response. I have re-downloaded, verified game files, tried different version of proton, disabled steam cloud, etc. It work offline

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Yep, tried that. It's to the point where I just want to say I think something shady is going on. Some users are complaining that the terms of service have changed recently (arbitration clause but I cannot confirm). Why not a) acknowledge this issue as something the team is investigating or b) say we want you to have an internet connection to play.

lavish jacinth
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either way I think that might be worthy of a bug report or something, because afaik the game SHOULD be completely playable offline

proud rivet
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Again I'm not asking for DRM-free. I'm just asking to play with Steam in Offline mode where after ex amount of days you have to go online to be re-verified

lavish jacinth
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I can actually check that on my end, gimme a sec

proud rivet
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thanks

sharp sundial
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I feel like this is obvious but do lockboxes spawn in solutional haunt and the other 2 new hidden realms?

lavish jacinth
# proud rivet thanks

unplugged my ethernet cable and the game booted up just fine, so this is probably a steam deck issue

twin cedar
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Does drone parts work with backup? I tried it recently and due to not using backup alot I couldn't tell if it was changing anything?

lavish jacinth
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they should have the chainguns and stuff, along with the stat buffs

leaden blade
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How many weak points do you have to break on the solus wing? 4? or is there another that I am not seeing

lavish jacinth
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there are 4 total, but you still have to finish it off once they're all broken

teal fern
leaden blade
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Copy that, just making sure I am not missing something.

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What counts as "a buff" for the ||Functional Coupler|| yellow item? I wish I could post a picture to ask specifically but

lavish jacinth
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you can post images if you have a role, #roles

hollow field
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i might be losing my mind HOW does the ||solus wing's expanding wall attack|| work??

lavish jacinth
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that item doesn't interact with buffs in any way so I assume you mean a different one

lavish jacinth
hollow field
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why are the ziplines SOMETIMES invulnerable to it but not always???

leaden blade
hollow field
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i feel like the game tweaks out trying to read half of the boss' attacks

lavish jacinth
hollow field
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nothing damages me consistently and it's getting on my nerves

leaden blade
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Oh duh yeah. Growth Nectar

lavish jacinth
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growth nectar works with any positive status effect

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including cooldown buffs like bands

leaden blade
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Interesting, okay thank you

lavish jacinth
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they do seem to give immunity to the laser grid though, and the grid also has gaps in it so sometimes you just get lucky and it won't hit you

trail swan
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I got through the virtual portal, but got tped to solutional haunt on the spot, what causes that?

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Like it never sent me to conduit canyon

spiral rampart
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how does hikers boots damage scaling work with stacks? Assuming no crit initially, wouldnt 1 hikers boots give 21% damage? would 2 give 44% damage?

lavish jacinth
clear whale
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Life pro tip: Seed of life allow you to have multiple engineer turrets at once

clear whale
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However it get revived by the seed of life

spiral rampart
teal fern
sharp sundial
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110% damage increase time .1

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that seems right

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ofc it gets better as you stack

teal fern
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stack 2: 20% crit, 20% dmg increase, 20% x 20% = 4%, add 20% dmg increase = 24% net

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and so on

spiral rampart
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oh just compound interest thank you

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i did my math wrong :(

teal fern
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it's NOT a 20% increase

sharp sundial
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probably just did 200% for crit

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common mistake, its plus 100%

spiral rampart
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this is still bonkers scaling though

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im a hikers boots believer

teal fern
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i would choose boots over watch if I can activate it as my character

sharp sundial
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for what it is, the numbers are fair, I just think its too easy to keep the buff up

spiral rampart
sharp sundial
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you can activate it as anyone lol just jump and shoot a beetle

spiral rampart
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yep basically

sharp sundial
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its stupid easy

spiral rampart
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i really hope they dont nerf it though

sharp sundial
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if it was just a teensy bit harder to activate this would be pretty much perfect

teal fern
sharp sundial
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you shouldn't be able to rack up the whole thing by just pressing space tbh

lavish jacinth
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it feels like the crits should only happen if you're hitting an enemy that's below you, instead of getting a buff that affects all of your attacks just by jumping

spiral rampart
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i initially thought it'd be more damage based on how much farther below the enemy is

sharp sundial
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I think that would be too harsh

spiral rampart
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so itd be really good on arti

sharp sundial
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yeah its unironically not that good on arti lol, others can rack it up faster

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nano bomb is nice with it tho

spiral rampart
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i really think they should have kept it almost like an inverse focus crystal in that sense

spiral rampart
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maybe like up to 25% more damage based on how far below an enemy is relative to you

sharp sundial
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well that would just suck for melees no?

spiral rampart
teal fern
spiral rampart
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but items being better on some than others isnt a bad thing at all

sharp sundial
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idk, I think just having it decay slowly when you're not hitting stuff below you would be fine

spiral rampart
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it should decay like every half second

sharp sundial
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yeah I agree, but this is supposed to be an item that fixes the problem of crit being rare and laser scope being too situational etc.

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shouldn't be that niche imo

teal fern
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idk, i stand with only critting when you are above

spiral rampart
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i really think scaling damage depend on how far above would keep it as like a B or C tier

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they never nerfed watches so i really hope they dont nerf boots

sharp sundial
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id rather they dont touch it than give it the raincoat treatment yeah

lavish jacinth
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I think crit chance in general is difficult to create items around, just because it becomes useless once you hit 100%

spiral rampart
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raincoat genuinely shouldnt exist

sharp sundial
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but gbx is pretty good at making those adjustments so im sure they'd nail it

spiral rampart
lavish jacinth
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also boots means there's almost no reason not to take lost seers most of the time

sharp sundial
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yeah I don't think boots is healthy rn, but its close

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and its fun

coarse sandal
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How many boots would I need to match ten lens makers?

lavish jacinth
spiral rampart
#

id rather boots be unhealthy than trash tier

spiral rampart
lavish jacinth
spiral rampart
#

a broken game is better than a game where everything is bad

lavish jacinth
#

10 for crit chance

sharp sundial
#

well yeah, but this is gbx not hopoo they wouldn't fuck that up

spiral rampart
#

i could never get back into isaac after all the fun stuff got nerfed into the ground

sharp sundial
#

did a pretty good job with seekers items rebalances, so I do want them to try their hand at it

spiral rampart
#

i mean seekers items needed a rebalance, I actually think they did a great job of the AC items

lavish jacinth
coarse sandal
#

Is runic lens better with atg or shrimp?

spiral rampart
sharp sundial
#

better with not than

#

both are great, depends more on your build than anything

teal fern
#

either work

coarse sandal
#

Atg have higher proc coefficient right?

sharp sundial
#

yes, but you fire tons more shrimp

#

you're seeing a plasma shrimp on the floor and have an atg yes?

coarse sandal
#

Ye

sharp sundial
#

so its 2 plasma shrimp vs one atg

#

shrimps better

coarse sandal
#

Ok thx

lavish jacinth
#

atgs themselves are more likely to proc runic lens since they have way higher damage, but shrimp is guaranteed to be procced off of the meteor

spiral rampart
#

gbx really cooked with the items

sharp sundial
#

you'd need a clover and some bands to want a single atg over more shrimp

lavish jacinth
#

atg vs shrimp matchups are always really confusing because their pros and cons kinda perfectly counter each other lol

spiral rampart
#

lol

lavish jacinth
#

everything shrimp is bad at, atg is good at, and vice versa

sharp sundial
spiral rampart
#

i really with there was a way to get rid of void items

lavish jacinth
#

yeah, that's why I tend to lean towards shrimp on average

sharp sundial
#

you're never comparing an atg with one shrimp, it's always x atgs vs x+1 shrimp

lavish jacinth
spiral rampart
#

at least on first loop i take plimp literally 100% of the time

sharp sundial
#

yeah a void item has to be way worse than the normal one for your build to not take it

spiral rampart
#

unless i already have atg+clover

#

and im more of a lost seers lover now

sharp sundial
#

honestly even if I have clover, if im playing like commando with no bands I'd still take shrimp lol

spiral rampart
#

yep

#

what do yall think about the spurs?

teal fern
sharp sundial
#

I wish you could turn a void item thats on the floor into the original, would fix those choices

#

spurs is sick, kinda wish it stacked better

spiral rampart
static jacinth
#

can eclipse be played multiplayer?

spiral rampart
#

i think its neat to balance a bunch of move speed with no jumping

static jacinth
#

is it harder? or easier multi?

spiral rampart
sharp sundial
#

debatable, I'd say harder if you're not all at equal skill level

lavish jacinth
#

generally I'd say multiplayer is easier if everyone knows what they're doing, but harder if not, eclipse or otherwise

sharp sundial
#

you also just need good coordination for items and stuff

teal fern
sharp sundial
#

like if you're all splitting green scrap, picking up random stuff because you like it, then it way harder than solo

spiral rampart
#

i usually have a harder time on multiplayer, even on monsoon multiplayer vs e8 singleplayer

#

but good item management makes multiplayer a cake walk

sharp sundial
#

actually I think drone respawning makes multi easier now

spiral rampart
#

and you can typically get even crazier builds

sharp sundial
#

like easier than solo

spiral rampart
sharp sundial
#

player drones inheriting items is crazy lol

#

nah what player drones are insane

spiral rampart
#

its just getting items

teal fern
#

tc drone is super powerful, remember that you keep your items 👀

spiral rampart
#

maybe freeze or tc280 have potenital?

sharp sundial
#

I basically solo'd half of mithrix as a tc the other day

lavish jacinth
#

they also let dead players actually play the game instead of being stuck in spectator

sharp sundial
#

and even gunner drone stacks bleed like crazy

#

if you pick the right drone for your build, its kinda nuts

spiral rampart
#

i have always been the last to die on multiplayer so i havent really been able to test them out anyway

sharp sundial
#

cooldowns, bleed, bands, that stuff you gotta factor into which drone you pick

spiral rampart
#

surely tc280 is just always what u wanna pick

#

does tc280 proc bands

sharp sundial
#

well yeah, but it burns your own money

#

you can't keep being tc

spiral rampart
#

i guess

teal fern
#

wait does it

spiral rampart
#

anything to just see tc280 more honestly

sharp sundial
#

secondary does

#

the missiles i think?

lavish jacinth
#

yeah

spiral rampart
#

thats good to know

scarlet dagger
#

Btw has anyone tested if devotion let's you play as a leumarian

spiral rampart
#

what do yall think about kinetic dampener?

scarlet dagger
#

Ik i misspelled that

sharp sundial
crisp timber
spiral rampart
sharp sundial
#

rare instance of them 'ripping off' an item from the first game but I like this one more

lavish jacinth
crisp timber
#

your build around is getting transcendance

lavish jacinth
#

it's an opal that can potentially tank multiple hits

sharp sundial
#

I agree, a single one is def worse than opal

spiral rampart
crisp timber
scarlet dagger
sharp sundial
#

but if you stack it with psgs its very good

lavish jacinth
#

yeah by itself it's just whatever

spiral rampart
#

multiple kinetic dampeners i have found to be super good

lavish jacinth
#

it does sorta make me wish we had more shield items now lol
or maybe the shield that it grants should stack since it's so tiny anyway

sharp sundial
#

like 3 dampeners and like 5 psgs is enough to be better than like 10 opals imo

crisp timber
#

i personally do not like spending 5-6 white scrap so that my green item becomes a rucker

spiral rampart
lavish jacinth
#

it's also yet another item that rex isn't allowed to use

spiral rampart
sharp sundial
#

I mean even on rex its a stunning bomb, not great but still nice

#

I just wouldn't lean into it on him

lavish jacinth
#

please, for god's sake, just let rex actually use out of danger items

spiral rampart
#

rex is honestly super underrated on e8 but i still wish theyd just make his abilities not deal curse dmg

sharp sundial
#

just another example of rex just not being built for this game lol

clear whale
#

"You are allowed to have fun, as long you are not playing REX"

spiral rampart
#

yep

lavish jacinth
#

I know it'll never happen but I honestly wouldn't mind if gearbox took a crack at reworking some of the hopoo characters

they have a tendency to make things a little stronger than they need to imo, but I like that their characters are way more fleshed out

#

hopoo had a habit of giving characters a single gimmick and just leaving it at that

spiral rampart
lavish jacinth
#

hm

teal fern
lavish jacinth
#

well, maybe rework was the wrong word
but just touch them up a bit

spiral rampart
#

off the top of my head i really just think rex, huntress, mult

#

they are all just run and shoot characters

teal fern
spiral rampart
#

mul t just feels the same as commando for me

#

but ive come to really really like commando over the years

lavish jacinth
#

I wouldn't mind Acrid getting some love, bro is basically just a default melee character but with poison

spiral rampart
#

acrid is so braindead

#

genuinely a 1 ability character

glass minnow
#

how do i get the drone after junk drone?

lavish jacinth
teal fern
spiral rampart
#

they shoulda just made turrets count as drones

glass minnow
#

...So this is how I found out I have too many drones

spiral rampart
#

or like land drones

red scaffold
hollow field
#

does longstanding solitude break war bonds? like if you have both does war bonds just never get any extra stacks

lavish jacinth
#

haven't tried it, but probably

hollow field
#

yea iw as about to so i was curious

vivid cosmos
#

Hey, I have a question. I have the Alloyed Collection DLC and I want to know that if you press on the Access Node and decide not to go into the new portal, does it stay for upcoming stages or do I need to loop once to Stage 3 again?

lavish jacinth
vivid cosmos
#

Oh ok, that makes sense. Is that recommended?

lavish jacinth
#

up to you, it's doable from stage 3 but probably easier if you loop

#

looping does mean enemies will be stronger but you'll have more items to work with

vivid cosmos
#

Hmm, ok thanks for answering

hollow field
#

i'm curious actually about other ways of getting into the alloyed collective path i know of the AWU in siren's call is there anything else

#

i heard the new stage 4 has one too (not conduit canyon, the other one)

lavish jacinth
#

yeah, thew new stage 4 has a node, but other than that and AWU I don't know of any others

hollow field
#

but on the few runs i didn't just go to conduit canyon i've never seen it

lavish jacinth
#

although it's possible that they can show up in lunar seers

keen dagger
#

Sorry to interrupt, Alloyed Collective question
Does the Trophy Hunter's Tricorn work on the Alloy Vulture?
Trying to get Operator's Not So Different, and... its difficult lol

wanton hamlet
keen dagger
hollow field
hollow field
wanton hamlet
kind slate
#

With our new friend the Operator, do we know which stat, roughly, affects the recharge rate of his main attack? Like, what fills the dots back in the quickest?

hollow field
#

i didn't see it in siren's call or abyssal depths huh

#

interesting

lavish jacinth
wanton hamlet
hollow field
lavish jacinth
#

if it can spawn on depths and sundered grove, then it's not guaranteed

kind slate
#

About to start a run. Will test.

hollow field
#

attack speed makes the charges load faster on top of making you fire faster if you're just holding it down

#

artificer works semi-similarly

kind slate
#

Awesome! I'd suspected when I'd gotten a few Mochas, but I wasn't certain.

hollow field
#

she used to not but this was thankfully amended sometime in the past

lavish jacinth
#

I think the arti thing is actually a bug, but they decided not to fix it lol

hollow field
#

it wasn't in any patch notes so i guess that's not that surprising

lavish jacinth
#

iirc it was also one of the 8 trillion bugs added in the sots launch

#

generally they don't change the basegame characters unless it's necessary, but I don't think too many people were complaining about the arti thing

tranquil delta
#

if i only got one dlc (for now) which one should i get?

wanton hamlet
lavish jacinth
#

they're all good so you can't really go wrong, but I'd say probably either SotV or AC as your first dlc

#

SotV expands on the normal gameplay loop and doesn't have anything overly complicated or difficult, but quality wise it's probably the weakest
SotS is good but it's very focused on the alternate route that it adds, and AC is just better imo

tranquil delta
#

i think i'll get sotv

lavish jacinth
#

only downside to starting with AC is that it's a lot harder, and it's so good that the others might be disappointing lol (especially when it comes to final bosses)

static jacinth
#

does the bulkward map have two variants?

wanton hamlet
static jacinth
#

i got some wierd variant i have never seen before

wanton hamlet
static jacinth
#

really? is that like a new thing?

#

like from the recent dlc

wanton hamlet
kind slate
#

Slow to build, but yeah, attack speed does affect Operator's primary attack. Thanks everyone!

ornate tangle
#

guys pretty quick answer prettyp retty please

#

what does escape through the mainline portal mean? where do i go

heavy gorge
#

Do you have to beat the solus wing to access the item combiner?

lavish jacinth
wanton hamlet
marsh gust
#

the mainline portal is the exit of the solutional haunt iirc

#

and its supposed to show up after fighting solus wing

ornate tangle
#

where is the portal supposed to show up?

lavish jacinth
#

why's this dlc gotta have so many portals

heavy gorge
#

The portal is its eyeball

marsh gust
#

theres a bug atm so if you dont see the eye in the middle it happened

#

cleanup drone strikes again

lavish jacinth
#

if you had a cleanup drone, you might be screwed

ornate tangle
#

bro 😭

marsh gust
#

cleanup drone is proving to be worse than soup island

lavish jacinth
#

normally after the boss dies, its corpse spawns a portal to the next area

#

but if the cleanup drone eats its corpse, you're softlocked

ornate tangle
#

i dont even have a cleanup drone he just exploded and im playing on swarm and theres no corpse

lavish jacinth
#

oh huh

marsh gust
#

so does swarms fuck it up too then?

lavish jacinth
#

I guess? seems weird that it would but who knows

inner prawn
#

my sibling plays swarms and he says it works

quick spindle
#

why isn’t mouse and keyboard working on console or is that not allowed

lavish jacinth
#

I don't think m+kb works on console

marsh gust
#

only thing i know is that its a fairly known softlock at this point

lavish jacinth
marsh gust
#

oh yeah i do remember hearing its not even immune to lost seers for whatever reason

#

and that none of the AC bosses were but i havent tested this myself

lavish jacinth
#

I think it's like a tp boss where seers doesn't proc on it directly, but an indirect hit with behemoth can kill it

marsh gust
#

thats how its supposed to work yes

#

i had heard reports that this isnt the case for some reason

lavish jacinth
#

well, normally final bosses have total immunity even with behemoth, but they forgot to add it

tranquil delta
#

how does bandit's effect app;ication work?

lavish jacinth
#

that makes me wonder if you could also instakill it with zoea, since I think void implosions use the same damage type as seers

tranquil delta
#

is it every pellet or every shot?

lavish jacinth
#

each pellet procs individually, with a 0.5 proc coeff

misty drum
#

where's the legendary chest in the new stage 4?

kindred herald
#

look for golden trees

wanton hamlet
ornate tangle
lavish jacinth
#

yea, killing enemies with lens doesn't leave a corpse

lavish jacinth
#

if he's at least immune to the seers proc then behemoth wouldn't work, since seers wouldn't activate in the first place

wanton hamlet
#

cus ik u cant one-shot him, he justs gets to 1hp and regenerates instantly it isnt like newt

lavish jacinth
#

normally what you have to do is proc seers on a normal enemy, and then have the behemoth explosion hit a boss

wanton hamlet
#

i just have 330 hours on this game and i still dont know how u people know this things lol is intrguing to me

lavish jacinth
#

I've spent a lot of time testing stuff and hanging out with other nerdy people who know a lot about the game, lol

simple halo
#

So with 4 players are items meant to be really scarce or am I just unlucky? Do the items not scale with players?

kindred herald
#

they do \

lavish jacinth
#

they're supposed to, anyway

red scaffold
ornate tangle
glossy iris
#

i died with dios bro what happened 🙁

wanton hamlet
glossy iris
#

idk i have no clue how the dlc works lol

#

just been raw dogging it

#

i died instantly too bruh

wanton hamlet
#

this fella

glossy iris
#

ah i might have just got super unlucky then

dusky raven
#

anyone have an ID on where exactly the ||Solutional Haunt|| log book is?

hollow field
#

does faraday spur nullify/reduce fall damage? i swear it feels like i take fall dmg a lot less when i have it

#

especially if it's at 100%

wanton hamlet
glossy iris
#

that mustve been it then

#

i was fighting him to the death

#

he had one health and the lasers were closing in

errant ibex
#

Recipe for molten purf?

hollow field
#

atg + kjaro's

errant ibex
#

Ty

heavy gorge
#

What precisely does Tinker do? I’m a bit confused and the wiki page isnt finished yet

wanton hamlet
hollow field
#

can also swap items on printers and terminals

wanton hamlet
#

u can also use it on printers so the item can change up to 2 rerolls i think

kindred herald
#

If used on a item, turns it into scrap and a temporary copy of itself
If used on a printer or cauldron, rerolls what item it prints up to two times
If used on a multishop or choice node (encrusted key, halyconite blessing, void fields reward), rerolls the item

heavy gorge
#

Oooo

That sounds perfect given drifter’s scrap buffs

wanton hamlet
heavy gorge
#

Unlimited health regen!

kindred herald
#

yeah being able to get speed and regen every run is nuts

hollow field
#

yea if i understand how it works correctly it's probably one of the most overpowered skills in the game at full potential

kindred herald
#

i think you can feasibly scrap ltierally every healing item as tinker drifter

hollow field
#

definitely more than makes up for a lot of drifter's failings

heavy gorge
#

I hate flying enemies I hate flying enemies

wanton hamlet
hollow field
#

it's insane

#

you can comfortably also do it to half the boss items if you get any

glass bay
#

what does one of mind do?

wanton hamlet
#

and on death u explode for 100% damage and disable items but who cars abt that

glass bay
#

ty

untold tinsel
#

Wait how do you play drifter💔💔i still dont get them

wanton hamlet
untold tinsel
wanton hamlet
untold tinsel
#

How do you get it

lavish jacinth
#

smack enemies with bag and throw trash at them

lavish jacinth
untold tinsel
#

Wait wdym by opening the backpack

wanton hamlet
#

theres a backpack where u unlock her

lavish jacinth
#

look around the room, there's a bunch of stuff you can interact with, including drifter's backpack

dry terrace
#

Is wecho usually worth keeping one around, or is its usefulness as a defensive item not that good?

wanton hamlet
lavish jacinth
#

atm it's bugged and a lot worse than it's supposed to be

kindred herald
#

wechos fine as a defensive item

#

its like always bugged so its value goes up with bugfix mods

lavish jacinth
#

it completely ignores osp and armor, so you can potentially end up taking way more damage with it than you otherwise would

#

when it works correctly it's alright though

dry terrace
#

I thought it was like a one time lifesaving item in a way that opal and safer spaces are

lavish jacinth
#

that's sorta what it's supposed to be

dry terrace
#

what mods fix the wecho bugs?

kindred herald
#

honestly i havent tested so this is just anecdote from 1 run but it seems really funny on drifter
because drifters insane green scrpa regen can heal youy back up before the lethal echo damage hits

dry terrace
#

I have wolfo fixes installed

restive pagoda
#

how to get loader?

lavish jacinth
#

spreading out the damage gives you time to heal from it as it's happening, and the damage ticks can work with stuff like repulsion plate, tougher times, razorwire etc.

lavish jacinth
dry terrace
#

thinking of scrapping it - I have a backup mag printer and a mocha printer on this stage

restive pagoda
lavish jacinth
#

break 6 of them and you'll probably figure it out from there

kindred herald
dry terrace
#

is that how you run viend

restive pagoda
#

@lavish jacinth thank you very much

dry terrace
#

should I scrap syringe and tougher times too

wanton hamlet
kindred herald
#

backup mags not terrible but i think this early in the run full mochaing sets you up really nice for success
viend has incredible healing from his r, espeically pre eclipse healing nerf
you dont ahve any damage items aside from syringe- backup mag is ok but i think in th econtext of a mocha printer it will always be worth less here. the early speed and attack speed is just sooo good, also means you can rely on transformed form a bit less for dmage and movement

lavish jacinth
#

there's no harm in keeping the TT, I would keep it

kindred herald
#

whetheer you keep the syringe is personal preference
i personally would turn it into a mocha because i hate using viends shift for mobility and wnat to get speed on him as soon as possible so i can actually move

dry terrace
#

do people usually run viend full corrupted

#

idk what the meta is

violet iron
#

does anyone know what the "Of One Mind" aspect does for you?

dry terrace
#

do I scrap everything into mocha lowkey

kindred herald
#

personally i hate playing wtih viends transform because it freezes you in place
and thehealing in base form is sooo good
but then you have to deal with his awful base shift and wimpy feeling m1 (which isnt that bad but the sfx are soo underwhelming(
ultimately i just dont like vien d

#

personally i think id be dangerous and turn everything except the sticky bomb into mohca

lavish jacinth
dry terrace
#

idk how to itemize pensive_wisp

#

def syringe but idk between sticky and antler

lavish jacinth
#

when in doubt it's always good to go for variety over stacking one "optimal" thing

lavish jacinth
lavish jacinth
#

wiki says 25%

kindred herald
#

my thought proccess is like
on e1 viend has incedible survivability from his r, so i feel safe turning a tougher times into damage and speed
antlers is good but a mocha is better, especially with the sticky bomb- turning everything but the sticky bomb into mocha means you have good pseed, a passable m1, and a actual proc to use that m1 on
which leaves you with speed, boss burst (from his corrupted form), good base damage with atk speed and sticky bomb, and healing
and from there that means you have the entire rest of the run to keep looking for aoe, for more single target damage, and real defense

wanton hamlet
lavish jacinth
#

oh, it said 25% yesterday lmao

lavish jacinth
kindred herald
#

sticky bomb so goated

livid terrace
#

i feel like i find barely any drones when playing operator

lavish jacinth
#

but genuinely, perfect itemization really isn't something you have to worry about too much, it's just something to help make runs better. Rule of thumb is damage > speed > defense > healing, and you almost always wanna go for variety over stacking, especially with items that can multiply each other (like attack speed and procs in this case)
As long as you loosely follow that rule, you'll probably be fine

calm island
#

how do u do dmg as drifter when theres almost no way to get junk during bosses

lavish jacinth
dry terrace
#

OH BABY got a cred card

calm island
wanton hamlet
#

then smack MORE

lavish jacinth
#

yeah, but hitting them drops junk

pastel hamlet
#

So I’ve seen conflicting info on this and so I’m not really sure. Does swarms actually get you more items if you have sacrifice on, or no?

misty drum
sour totem
#

ive got a question for people who understand how solus heart works

my question \/
||are there damage zones or something when they do the attack four lasers appearing on opposite sides of the arena? the one that converges are the middle like:
⬜▶️⬛⬛
⬜▶️⬛⬛
⬛⬛◀️⬜
⬛⬛◀️⬜ ||

||im asking because i was playing operator and i flew up in the sky behind one of the lasers trying to land onto the platform that reappears after it disintegrates it but then died due to ticking damage
and i still dont know why that happened cause i dodged the laser||

wanton hamlet
sour totem
#

idk i was just in the air and i died
dont think it was due to any projectile either unless i didnt see the big guy shoot stuff at me

sullen mauve
#

Remember that the red floor just removes your items temporarily, it doesn’t kill you

#

You can walk on it if you need to escape an attack

sour totem
#

oh i thought it actively damaged you

sullen mauve
#

It might if you stay too long I’m not sure

#

But I’ll jump on it for a second to escape and then get back to safety

wanton hamlet
#

is there like a memory leak problem or something??? im seeing a lot of people saying the game crashes or drops to low fps roughly 1 hour into a run

gentle moss
wanton hamlet
#

yeah me too but only one time while fighting AH the fps dropped to -1 and got killed randomly

gentle moss
solid wolf
#

||is there any way to reaccess computational exchange? one of our players hit spec with fmp.||

lavish jacinth
wooden spindle
#

how much armor does solus wing have?

solid wolf
lavish jacinth
#

afaik access nodes don't spawn at all once you've been there

wanton hamlet
lavish jacinth
#

It's probably adaptive armor like other final bosses

#

it scales with your dps up to a max of 400 (assuming it works the same for solus wing as it does for the others)

solid wolf
lavish jacinth
#

are you sure?

wooden spindle
#

shattering justice wont help much then

calm island
#

how does one make use of junk cube

solid wolf
lavish jacinth
#

I've also fought it with very strong builds and its resisted pretty well

radiant frigate
lavish jacinth
#

and it seems to take a pretty similar amount of damage regardless of how strong my build is, and boss armor is just kinda standard for final bosses

fiery dust
#

hi i have like 110 hours and i got every ability and this game lowk getting boring what do i do?

solid wolf
#

eclipse

violet iron
fiery dust
lavish jacinth
#

then make it your goal to get better at it

normal ridge
#

does anyone know if the ||decompile ending|| counts for monsoon skin unlocks?

chrome quail
#

How do I decrypt the round yellow thing

wanton hamlet
chrome quail
#

Yeah

#

Like where do I go

wanton hamlet
#

Faxmachine is already typing so kust wait the answer lol

lavish jacinth
wanton hamlet
#

He probably will explain it better than me

lavish jacinth
#

lol

chrome quail
#

Ok thanks

lavish jacinth
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||a few different items will work btw, sentry keys, prison matrix, rusted/encrusted keys, and I think empathy cores and orphaned core||

chrome quail
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Am I good or nah

lavish jacinth
normal ridge
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ur good

chrome quail
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Oh okay

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This dlc is kinda peak

lavish jacinth
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it's about to get peak-er engiclueless

graceful surge
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Is it possible to kill false son 2 times in 1 run

violet iron
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I would assume if you can get back into the storm after beating him, yes?

lavish jacinth
violet iron
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it sucks cause I just beat him for the first time today with a friend, but we didn't get a halcion (halcyion?) seed before we got to him

graceful surge
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If that makes sense

lavish jacinth
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hm

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well either way, I'm pretty sure you can't fight him more than once, or if you can it's not intended

violet iron
graceful surge
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I’m assuming you can’t tho it would make story wise MistySweatSmile

lavish jacinth
violet iron
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Anyway... operator in multiplayer is amazing

graceful surge
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I had a 2 hr run on stage 20 earlier and had 62 secondary’s

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My pc hated it MistySobbing

violet iron
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Lol

marble magnet
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So do operators drones have unique stats or is it cosmetic?

violet iron
marble magnet
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Ohh right

Alrighty then

hexed karma
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Is there a reliable way to get to the Gilded Coast? I am losing my mind trying to get there to unlock the False Son.

lavish jacinth
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gilded coast has a decently high chance to show up in one of the lunar seers

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it's not guaranteed but it's just under a 30% chance per visit iirc

hexed karma
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You can get there from Halcyon Shrines after activating the first one to get on the Path of the Colosses too, right?

lavish jacinth
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yep

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but the bazaar is the best method by far, and if you don't get a green portal on gilded coast then the bazaar also has a way to spawn one

quick mason
lavish jacinth
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if you're on a valid stage for a green portal there'll be 3 geodes hidden around the bazaar that you can break to spawn one

quick mason
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you can enter prime meridian a second time from the bazar for example

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I’ve had runs where I’ve fought him 3+ times

graceful surge
quick mason
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tbh it’s not consistent, and I don’t fully understand what determines whether or not you can continue to take green portals to fight him again. sometimes for example - I will end up in the guided coast after I’ve beat him once and a green portal won’t spawn after defeating auriellonite - only gold. it might have to do with the stage you are on (could be that he’s not accessible after stage 4), and im assuming it’s once per loop

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but all I know is that it’s definitely possible at the very least within the last few months and that me and my buddies have done many runs where we beat him more than once while looping

quick mason
coarse sinew
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How does prayer beads work?

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I almost always toss em in the scrapper first chance I get

lavish jacinth
coarse sinew
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I know it improves your stats on removal

graceful surge
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It’s listed in the wiki

lavish jacinth
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when you get rid of them, each stack of the beads buff gives you permanent stats equal to a % of what you'd get from leveling up, depending on how many item stacks you had when you scrapped them

quick mason
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you can watch how he does it here ig and try to replicate it

graceful surge
quick mason
quick mason
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but yeah, watch that video. definitively the answer is yes, it’s possible and that video shows at least 1 method to doing it

lavish jacinth
coarse sinew
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Is it a waste of time to get the halcyon shrine on stage one (monsoon)

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Especially after doing the teleporter?

quick mason
lavish jacinth
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since it works exactly like your normal xp bar, the amount of xp needed increases with each "level", so it goes really slowly past like lv20

lavish jacinth
strong mesa
coarse sinew
quick mason
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I would say most players do it before the teleporter

lavish jacinth
quick mason
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in general you shouldn’t worry about time as long as you are picking up items

lavish jacinth
coarse sinew
quick mason
coarse sinew
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Especially without a brittle crown or tome

graceful surge
lavish jacinth
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and it is absolutely worth it in terms of time and gold
it takes 60 seconds to charge plus however long it takes to kill halcyonite, and you get 3 items with a very good loot table

graceful surge
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But I may be wrong 😔

kindred herald
lavish jacinth
quick mason
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the reality is the director spawns a finite amount of items per stage so NOT doing the halcyon shrine is equivalent to not picking up chests that would of otherwise spawned in its place

vale rivet
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will this game ever be true cross platform :(

quick mason
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halcyon shrine on stage = necessarily less director points to spend everything else including chests

so not making use of it is a detriment

lavish jacinth
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aren't halcyon shrines specifically cheaper on stage 1?

kindred herald
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regardless of credits not doing halcyon shrine is leaving items on the floor

lavish jacinth
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yeah

kindred herald
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more items = more power = more won runs

lavish jacinth
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it's extremely time-efficient (even if charging feels slow) and the gold cost is no big deal as long as you don't do it at the very start of a stage

kindred herald
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i usually hit it before tp, then use the green portal after killinhg the tp boss to skip charging tp

lavish jacinth
quick mason
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in general items > time. as long as you are picking up items consistently time isn’t that important - the largest difficulty jumps (about 15%) come from moving to the next stage anyways.

kindred herald
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i have won e8 runs taking 18 minutes a stage time is soooo fake

coarse sinew
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Actually that reminds me

quick mason
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yea, and if you are really worried about it - I feel like a good check is 1 item per minute of game time. if you hit tab and your # of items is the more than the game time in the top right, you are fine. if you do void fields you will easily have double that number anyways

coarse sinew
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Siphoned forest has the most item credits for stage 1

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Is green portal always better than reg stage 2?

kindred herald
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a bit yeah

coarse sinew
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Credit wise

lavish jacinth
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only slightly, but yeah iirc

quick mason
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I am a bazaar chud so I hardly ever take path of colossus

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only at the last minute to go to prime meridian

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through the bazaar usually

kindred herald
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you can also go for bands from aqueduct
halycon shrine from stage 1, take grene portal mid tp, clear reformed atlar, go back to regular path is a very very good path

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i get really bored of reformed altar so i skip it sometmre

quick mason
kindred herald
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i'm definitely always going duct with drifter for the sweet cube bands

lavish jacinth
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if you truly wanna maximize loot, I thiiiink the ideal route would be
stage 1 > reformed altar > gilded coast (if you can get it) > treeborn > gilded coast again > prime meridian > stage 4 > void fields > stage 5

(I'm not sure where the AC stages stand credit-wise, but I'm assuming they aren't any better than the colossus stages

kindred herald
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i think hitting exchange is alwyas gonna be better bcuz of recipes

quick mason
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interesting. me and my buddies always do void fields immediately

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like right after stage 1

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and I do it that way solo too ig

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doesn’t void fields just get much harder for no more reward if you wait

kindred herald
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it depends on how able you are to loot it

lavish jacinth
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you could also do it after stage 2 I guess
I ordered it like that because I think you have a slightly higher chance of getting a gold portal on the colossus stages, and ideally you do wanna hit up coast because you get better loot from false son if you have a halcyon seed

kindred herald
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it can get brutal to do vf early, and while it gets harder later it also gets a bit easier to loot in some ways because you can have speed, regen, and the extra gold from killing guys

lavish jacinth
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obviously this is assuming perfect rng with gold portals and void fields not screwing you over

kindred herald
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theres a nice sweetspot where you can hit gups as your round one enemy, kill them, loot all the items on the stage, leave without purging any cells, free loot
(this is REALLY easy on drifter too)

coarse sinew
kindred herald
quick mason
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I guess I just value the snowball of doing VF earlier. the extra items are most impactful the earlier you get them and since it’s difficulty scales with everything else it’s easiest to do earlier in my opinion. but I think it can be tough on certain characters who don’t have mobility to get from vent to vent

kindred herald
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vf is definitely in a tough spot consistency wise

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like i said drfiter 100% has the best time with it because of her guaranteed speed and regen with tinker
very easy to get the white scrap and green scrap to outdamage the fog, loot the place, and leave every run

quick mason
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drifter is a lot of fun. the concept of just always having speed and regen is pretty crazy

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and that’s like the underrated part of her kit

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im a little too obsessed with rerolling printers with her though, I never end up having white scrap at the end of stage 1 lol always find something to spend it on

quick mason
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he can hang out in the void fog for an unreasonable amount of time especially if you grab a stone flux pauldron from from the bazaar before heading in

kindred herald
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huh never considered that

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one day i will unlock that ability i just dont feel like it

quick mason
unkempt ocean
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Do some of the new drones like the ice and bombardment have spawn conditions behind them? I’ve done loops and plenty runs and haven’t seen a single of either yet not even in drone shops

quick mason
lavish jacinth
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I know I've seen them both on conduit canyon

quick mason
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false son all alternate loadout is impossible to lose with if you use lunars

kindred herald
lavish jacinth
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sometimes drones don't get added to spawn pools until after a loop too, emergency drones are like that on some stages iirc

unkempt ocean
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Just want to try the funny little new guys, thanks for the help though I’ll just spam the new stages probably

quick mason
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im trying to figure out how to fly with drifter and cube that’s the tech I really need to learn

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seen lots of videos of people gaining what seems like infinite height by chaining them together

kind inlet
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Whats the actual solution to the || Alloy Hunter ||? Is the laser just must dodge behind pillar? it obliterates you. Died 3x now.

kindred herald
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hide behind pillar yeah

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break los, have high speed, use drones to draw aggro

lavish jacinth
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it has a really long windup as well, the lasers spread out to the side and slowly focus in on you

kind inlet
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Neat. Anything else to keep track of?

lavish jacinth
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uhh not really, just keep moving and watch for its telegraphs

inner brook
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Yo.

I just ran into an Umbra Mul-T without having any artifacts on. I’ve never encountered it and only read about it on the Wiki, so it scared the bajeebies out of me since I was under the understanding they’re quite powerful. I took it out with relative ease but I’m confused as to why it appeared. Any reason it might’ve popped up, or was it a glitch? I had finished fighting the Solus Wing and spent a good bit of time making sure I didn’t miss anything important (mostly making sure I unlocked Drifter) when it suddenly appeared.

lavish jacinth
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no idea why, I'm sure the lore people could explain it lol

inner brook
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Is it always Mul-T?

lavish jacinth
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yep

kindred herald
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It’s probably a joke about HAN-D tbh

inner brook
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How odd.

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I wondered if it might be related to the Hand bot located there. i was so scared to interact with it thinking it would go all mini-boss on me and clap my cheeks.

lavish jacinth
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nah, the dead han-d is chill, he just spits out a few random items if you interact with him

inner brook
clear whale
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Why are chinese lobbies like this

inner brook
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The real terror was the Solus Heart. After it wiped the floor with me and flung my lifeless body into the air, my body hit the red laser floor offstage of the boss fight and it looked like my body got disintegrated. Is that red laser floor instant death?

inner brook
gentle night
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quick question: after activating the node which teleports u to the new DLC boss, are you able to find another node during looping? or is it a one and done thing per loop

lavish jacinth
gentle night
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they naturally spawn as bosses during loops correct

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i assume haha

lavish jacinth
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no, AWU is the secret boss on siren's call, it can only spawn on that stage

gentle night
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ahhhh right i forgor

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yea, me and friend were gonna do the ending where we offered to the guy, but friend has the gesture of the drowned + missile combo so we hit him and we couldnt do that anymore haha

lavish jacinth
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yeah, it's really annoying how easily you can get screwed over there

gentle night
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at least we on command so we're gonna try not buying any automatic attack items

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jm gonna assume drones dont shoot him

lavish jacinth
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yeah, drones leave him alone

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but stuff like missile launcher or tesla coil can target him

jade finch
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is seed of life supposed to work when you have functional coupler? I had it as my second equipment but it didnt activate

crisp timber
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It needs to be on the active slot

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Similar to retool

jade finch
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🙁

chrome mist
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is the music on the new stages more quiet than on the old ones for anyone else

hoary rune
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Is it only possible to combine equipment drones if they have the same equipment, or are they uncombinable?