ror2-game-questions

[livid wedge]

Is the wiki correct about the base health regen granted by knurl or slug increasing based on level and if so, does that mean they are reduced by the monsoon regen reduction just like your characters base regen?

[lavish jacinth]

yes and yes

[livid wedge]

Thankies again

Just curious

[lavish jacinth]

yeah
gotta love that the regen modifier is basically insignificant aside from arbitrarily nerfing two items lol

[livid wedge]

Maybe we'll get more regen items in ac

[lavish jacinth]

maybe

[livid wedge]

If only knurl gave armor like ror1

Then it could compete

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I have no idea why they got rid of the armor

the inner workings of hopoo's mind are an enigma

[livid wedge]

I really should get learn how to mod ror2 just so I could apply my item tweak ideas

[lavish jacinth]

I've tried before, but I'm too dumb to figure it out on my own and I don't wanna bother the people in the modding discord about it lol

[livid wedge]

Fair

I don't know for certain how complex it is to mod items but I feel like it's at least one of the easier things to do

Just tweaking values

But then I remembered what happened with SotS release and I reconsider

[lavish jacinth]

from what I've heard it's not actually that hard to tweak existing stuff, it just takes patience and some knowledge of C#

[errant patio]

Hi, i just beat the game with LOADER but I have not unlocked the special color, is it normal ? it is both my first win and first time playing this character

[worldly olive]

You need to win on monsoon

[errant patio]

oh my god okay

that feels like a hard challenge

[lavish jacinth]

well, the achievement IS called 'mastery'

but it's not as bad as it seems, you can basically use the same strats you'd use on rainstorm, the game is just less lenient

full loot stages as efficiently as you can and try not to get hit

[boreal parcel]

you can also obliterate yourself at the obelisk instead of beating mithrix, which is in my opinion easier

[errant patio]

I have no clue what this is

[boreal parcel]

do you have mercenary

[errant patio]

but i'll figure out at some point

no i don't want to be spoiled

[boreal parcel]

alright

i can give you a small hint if you want

just so you know where to go kinda

[boreal parcel]

which dlc do you guys recommend getting first, or is it preference

[lavish jacinth]

Both are good but I'd recommend sotv first

[jaunty furnace]

good

[jaunty furnace]

sotv 1000%

[lavish jacinth]

SotV expands on basegame content a lot more, whereas most of the SotS content is focused on the alt path that it adds, so it's more like a big sidequest

[boreal parcel]

nice thanks

i'll definitely get all of them at some point tho

[jaunty furnace]

you could check em out in order of release

but i could see people skip sots if ac is that good

[errant patio]

Is the grandparent boss anything more than a punching bag ? I do not want to spoil myself, but I'm wondering if it has any point

[lavish jacinth]

their sun attack can be pretty dangerous, but yeah, they're pretty easy other than that

they're more like an environmental hazard than a boss (which is true of most bosses in ror2 tbf)

[left forge]

The attack where they raise a sun above their head is countered by getting out of its LoS

Or killing it before it does that if your build allows it

[boreal parcel]

Does difficulty still scale in hahahahaha? should i worry about time?

[lavish jacinth]

yes, difficulty scales pretty much infinitely

enemy level caps at 99 but the game will still spawn stronger enemies in larger numbers

[boreal parcel]

alright thanks

[topaz stirrup]

how do melee survivors deal with Alloy Worship Unit? so far he's ended most of my False Son and recent Acrid runs

[frosty reef]

A good tip for acrid is applying poison while AWU has its shield up so poison scales off the shield scaled max HP

[lavish jacinth]

most melee survivors have enough mobility to get on top of it and attack it that way, and/or keep circling around it

it fires projectiles out of its eye, so as long as you aren't directly in front of it, it shouldn't be able to hit you

[topaz stirrup]

Noted, a good reason to dust off my old circlestrafing skills from DOOM. How about the floor dealio? Any counterplay other than getting the heck outta there?

[topaz stirrup]

omg I didn't even think to snapshot poison off of shield phase

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, just don't stand in the blue circles

and if you're in the air or on top of AWU then the launchpad can't hit you at all

[topaz stirrup]

oh nice I can use him as a meat metalshield

…which is just a regular shield I guess XD

[vocal yacht]

Good evening, I heard that a certain item’s effect can get increased based on the attack of the skill used, but I can’t remember which one… Does anyone happen to know which it is please ? Not sure if my question makes sense haha

[lavish jacinth]

luminous shot?

[vocal yacht]

I don’t think so, I was thinking more of something like the bracelet that makes a fire tornado or something… Maybe my brain’s just making things up.

[crisp timber]

are you just referring to total damage scaling items?

ie an ATG proccing off an attack that deals 1000% damage would deal an equivalent of 3000%

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, almost all proc items scale their damage off of the hit that procced them

[vocal yacht]

Yes !!!

[vocal yacht]

Oh okay it’s possible to be this item yes. thank you 🙂

[vocal yacht]

ohhhh ok, I thought there were only a few that worked like that, sorry

[lavish jacinth]

ye, if an item says it deals "X% total damage" in its description, that's what that means

[slender trench]

Question. What's the optimal way to play false son?

Everytime i pick him i end up feeling weak asf

[lavish jacinth]

abuse lunar ruin as much as possible, spam charged club, use special for ranged damage and recovering m2 charges. Don't forget that the default special needs to be charged for full damage

pretty much every type of item is good on him as well, and lunar ruin has a bug that lets proc effects double dip on its damage bonus, so procs are even stronger than normal

items that give max hp are also nice to get because of his growth passive, especially %health buffs like pearls or growth nectar

[mellow crystal]

Also don't forget that lunar ruin has bleed/refresh stacking
So applying a new stack refreshes the duration of every stack

[crimson sigil]

Anyone have any clue why

1. I got the boss item immediately after starting teleporter
   and
2. Why one of the bosses didn’t spawn with the red hp bar but counted as a boss still?

[mellow crystal]

You hit it frame 1 of it spawning

There's a bug-left-in-the-game-for-convenience where hitting a boss on the first frame it spawns makes the game forget it's a boss

Usually only used for mithrix phase 4 but it can be used for the tp if you can accurately guess where the boss will spawn

[crimson sigil]

Oh dang, never knew that could happen to any boss

[lavish jacinth]

better question, why is there a single frame of toxic beasts' subtitle

[crimson sigil]

That can’t mean… surely they wouldn’t add… no…

[lavish jacinth]

it probably doesn't mean anything, it's possible it was scrapped ages ago but the text still exists in the files somewhere. There's a ton of stuff like that

I guess this is part of the bug but I honestly have no idea lol

[crimson sigil]

Idk man I just chalked it up to average switch moment

[livid wedge]

I think Mother of Many was the plague boar thing from 1

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, toxic beast

[jaunty furnace]

you were talking about btw

[wintry fjord]

Is it true that you can use runic lens to restart a proc chain

I heard it from somewhere and I can't tell

[jaunty furnace]

im pretty sure yes

[mellow crystal]

Yeah runic lens doesn't have the tag that prevents infinite proc chains iirc

[jaunty furnace]

they forgorf

[mellow crystal]

The forgorf
The third perforator

[cinder pasture]

what a joke. killing tons of things and cant get a single item drop

is there a way to fix the rng on item drops in artifact of sacrifice

[jaunty furnace]

yeah

disable sacrifice

[cinder pasture]

shit. valid

[amber swan]

I once went 10 minutes with sacrifice, evolution and vengeance without any items.

The first item I got was a lensmaker glasses from my own umbra 💔

[sick sorrel]

Lol, my first dop dropped a yellow Rarity if i remember correctly

[glacial knoll]

That's the pre-placed text before the game overwrites it, no idea why

it's literally always there for 1 frame technically

[merry gull]

guys i spawned the boss, one of the boss spawned ,i killed it and there's another that's no where to be found and i cannot proceed, anyways to fix this bug?

[floral sandal]

no fix that i know of

[merry gull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/riskofrain/comments/tfj39h/risk_of_rain_2_bug_cant_find_boss_anywherecant/ so for 4 years the devs didnt fix this bug lmao??????

[floral sandal]

yeah its not that easy to fix without affecting the whole game

that problem is with mithrix aswell

mithrix can just tp outside the arena and fall to his death

[primal vector]

This is most likely not a bug at all. That stage has a cave when it is night just under were you are in that screenshot. The boss will be there

This also happens in the sulfur pools stage, the TP area is a sphere, so bosses can spawn above an under the plane where the TP is

[floral sandal]

it is if the map is that version

[merry gull]

whelp there goes my moonsoon commendo run

[jaunty furnace]

when youre not looking at the boss, a red arrow will be placed around your screen to indicate their location

when they come in your view, a red dot will appear and quickly fade away

[merry gull]

that red arrow is pointing vertically downwards, if i move 1cm, it turns

[jaunty furnace]

use this to find enemies through walls

[merry gull]

its bugged

[jaunty furnace]

then it was under you, was it not?

[merry gull]

it is under me, but this level does not have an under level under the floor im at

its a bug

[ornate gust]

Thats viscous falls right, there is an underground area in that map

The loop variant of verdant falls, a new area appears in that map

[merry gull]

ive jumped down and looked for an underground area, there isnt

also even if there is, why does 1 of the boss spawn on the floor i am and 1 spawn under me? its a bug of 4 years and the devs didnt bother to fix, look at the date of the reddit post

[ornate gust]

Im talking about this place

Its kinda hidden

[merry gull]

im already at that place, the floor im ON is the BOTTOM OF THE BOTTOM

[ornate gust]

Ohhh wow

[merry gull]

i took the screenshot while standing on a higher ground

you could see the top of the red sphere

[ornate gust]

Damn

Well if u have debug toolkit u can try doing kill_all

Otherwise yeah dead run

[merry gull]

i will keep a note out on the kill all thanks

[ornate gust]

No worries

The command helped me out during some simulacrum runs when the enemies would just phase through buildings and stuff

Some got bugged and didnt even die to like fall damage it was very weird

[tender temple]

wouldnt it not matter on simu since enemies would just die to the fog eventually

[jaunty furnace]

maybe they were in the radius

but i guess the radius shrink could eventually kill them

...if you dont die first

[glacial knoll]

should be rather easy to follow the red arrow and see whether or not the game actually broke or the player is blind

[ornate gust]

Basically that

They just glitched underneath the ground but within the radius

It was weird

[glacial knoll]

simu sanctuary had this happen quite a lot

[ornate gust]

Yes it was sanctuary lmaooo

[glacial knoll]

Dunno if the colission improvements last update did much for simu but hopefully

[ornate gust]

I havent played simulacrum in a while so i dont know

Since this happened like a year ago

[quaint jungle]

are there treasure in stage 6?

[jaunty furnace]

wdym?

like, chests?

[quaint jungle]

are there boxes that drop equipment?

[jaunty furnace]

nope

but you could get a lunar equipment from the lunar pod section

[quaint jungle]

alright, thank you

[ornate gust]

If u got a rusted key or shipment then those can spawn

Encrusted key also

[quaint jungle]

okay, i thought my game was glitched because i couldnt find any

[ornate gust]

Nah youre fine

[jaunty furnace]

youre on the final stage

its special

[errant patio]

Hello, can you still do challenges such as this one in drizzle difficulty ?

[daring cloak]

Yes

All unlocks can be done on drizzle and with any artifacts unless specified otherwise

[errant patio]

amazing, i'll do this one there then. Thanks !

[frosty reef]

Can also do it in prismatic trials if one of those stages are rolled. Allows for quick resets if you mess up

[mental sierra]

Does rebar on mult count as a missile item dor pocket icbm?

[primal vector]

No, only Engineer's thermal harpoons do

[tender temple]

except the unlocks specifically saying otherwise

[daring cloak]

Yes... thats....... what I said

[signal pelican]

Why is the Skeleton for N'kuhana's Opinion not spawning

[lavish jacinth]

Large AoE effects like can potentially hit it through the ground and destroy it, which sometimes fails to give you the achievement for it

[signal pelican]

I only had a Behemoth

[lavish jacinth]

it could've happened on a previous run

the skeleton doesn't respawn if it's been destroyed before

[signal pelican]

That's fucked

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[signal pelican]

So I just can't get it

[lavish jacinth]

if you're on PC, you can just use the realercheatunlocks mod to force the unlock

[signal pelican]

Xbox

[lavish jacinth]

in that case you can try playing multiplayer with someone who has a fresh profile, which should cause the skeleton to respawn

or just wait for AC to come out and hope that they patch it

at the very least, the item you're missing out on isn't anything important

[tender temple]

I'm clind cro

[signal pelican]

I wanted to 100% unlock everything

[lavish jacinth]

rip

[tender temple]

Just start over

[signal pelican]

Yeah I just straight up can't unlock it

[jaunty furnace]

what the fuckkk

[lavish jacinth]

everything about that skeleton secret is stupid ngl

[jaunty furnace]

you could just use mods

to either fix it or unlock it

[lavish jacinth]

.

[jaunty furnace]

ah

[signal pelican]

^

Thankfully I still have about 2 weeks of gamepass to lfg with

[primal vector]

Noooo. Its very cool, the only stupid thing is it bugging out

[signal pelican]

Ok nvm lfg is dead

This is karma for all the times I ?lfd'ed in the Bl server isn't it

[compact wolf]

yeah

[signal pelican]

Well now I'm rushing this specific unlock on my other account just to be 100% safe

[ornate gust]

Does obliterating count as a win? like in ur stats

[crisp timber]

yeah

[ornate gust]

Basically the "fate unknown" ending

Ah cool

[dim sky]

does mithrix have a monsoon exclusive attack that makes your healthbar go black and deals dot? i got killed by it so fast

[jaunty furnace]

no

[hoary sedge]

no? did you have any mods on, that doesn't really sound like anything in vanilla

[jaunty furnace]

were you in phase 4

[hoary sedge]

especially not during the mithrix fight

[dim sky]

no i never added any mods to my game and it was phase 1

[jaunty furnace]

did you have warped echo

[dim sky]

i didnt have any lunars either

[lone compass]

was it multiplayer

[hoary sedge]

that's the only thing I could think of yeah

[dim sky]

uh lemme look it up

oh yeah i had one of those

[hoary sedge]

ok it was probably that then

[jaunty furnace]

warped echo split the damage in multiple hits instead of instakilling you

dont get hit next time

[dim sky]

it was a pretty good run too

[signal pelican]

I got lucky with 2 randoms

Snagged it so I don't have to worry

[lavish jacinth]

good to know that it's still obtainable that way, at least

[signal pelican]

Now the only missing items left are
Squid Polyp
Brainstalks
Purity
Gesture of the Drowned

[lavish jacinth]

well, those should all be fairly easy

gesture is just really tedious

[signal pelican]

Also question

What's with the Goldin Dieback log book glitch

I haven't unlocked either entry just out of caution

[lavish jacinth]

the radar scanners just don't spawn due to some spaghetti code

[jaunty furnace]

it just don' spawn

[crisp timber]

that's the glitch lol

[signal pelican]

Hopefully they fix it when the new dlc drops

[marble magnet]

How good is laser scope? (Basically how good is a extra 100% on crit)

[jaunty furnace]

if you have crit then sure, its an extra 50% total damage on crit

[marble magnet]

Seems good

Thank u

[lavish jacinth]

if you don't have decent crit chance then it's pretty bad and generally worse than the +60% total damage from behemoth

the one major advantage of laser scope is that it synergizes with bands and crowbar while behemoth generally doesn't (and scope also stacks better)

[marble magnet]

I ssee

[lavish jacinth]

they basically designed that item specifically for railgunner and bandit lmao

[boreal parcel]

would y'all consider hahahaha difficulty on stage 4 monsoon normal or did i spend too much time

[lavish jacinth]

depends on what the timer says specifically, but generally as long as you're full-looting stages and aren't wasting too much time, you'll be on a good pace. Getting at least one item per minute is a loose rule of thumb

[livid wedge]

Honestly, I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in what the djfficulty meter says

I've never paid much attention to it

[grave palm]

Full-looting is the best method and you'll naturally get faster at it as you keep playing

[boreal parcel]

what items are good on captain? i kinda suck at choosing items for characters apart from commando

[grave palm]

The usual crit, bleed, attack speed. Because he has a shotgun he can get some consistent procs. Obviously get bands for his strikes.

[boreal parcel]

I need to learn what proc is, i keep hearing it

[lavish jacinth]

just on-hit effects, basically

etc

[left trellis]

(primarily random ones, unlike )

[grave palm]

Exactly this

[boreal parcel]

oh alright

so proc is like random chance effects?

[lavish jacinth]

and you pretty much build captain the same way you'd build commando, maybe get more mobility items than you otherwise would

[boreal parcel]

alright

[left trellis]

proc items are particularly good on captain and commando because of their high volume of fire; more bullets means more chances at rolling random items for their benefit. that's why they're good in this case

[boreal parcel]

btw is there any point in getting more than 10 daggers, since it's already 100% chance

[left trellis]

nope

[grave palm]

Extra white scrap

[boreal parcel]

i mean captain fires pretty slow, unless i get close and don't charge the shotgun

[left trellis]

yes, but each pellet of the shotgun rolls for random effects

[boreal parcel]

oh i didn't know that, that is cool

damn i'll try to get syringes and daggers then

[grave palm]

And speed items, because otherwise it's just going to be a painful run

[boreal parcel]

thanks

[lavish jacinth]

10 stacks may not be 100% depending on proc coeff (cap's shotgun is 0.75 per pellet) so getting more than 10 may not be useless, but it's more than enough to stack bleed consistently

at that point you're better off going for other items that'll buff bleed indirectly, like attack speed or watches

[lavish jacinth]

also scrapping daggers is probably not the best idea if you're going for a bleed build, lol. Even if you do end up with more than you need

(unless you have shatterspleen + high crit, and even then it's probably better to try to get needletick)

[grave palm]

True

But it never hurts to have extra scrap for soups and printers

[lavish jacinth]

okay, except that you can't get that white scrap without getting rid of most of your bleed build

scrappers take 10 stacks at a time

[grave palm]

Forgot about that

I've been playing too much modded ror2

My bad for spreading misinformation

[lavish jacinth]

lol

[grave palm]

https://thunderstore.io/package/eviegc/MarkForScrap/

Changed my life

[snow shadow]

Engineer BIS build no dlc

What would it be

[marble magnet]

A thing I have never thought about

Can hacking beacon open rusted boxes?

[marble magnet]

What's a bis build sorry 💔

[snow shadow]

Best in slot

[marble magnet]

... 💔 What's a best in slot build

Again sorry

Like equipment? 😭

[marble magnet]

You mean his moveset?

That'd probably be

Secondary alt
Utility alt
Stationary

turrets

[mellow crystal]

Yeah

And yeah I've never heard the phrase BIS build before wtf

[marble magnet]

The base mines and the shield are kinda eh

The shield isn't even great at defending you

[marble magnet]

Ok phew I thought i was just dumb

@snow shadow

[mellow crystal]

The shield is deceptive because it's less of a shield and more of a block if you get what I mean
You pull it out when needed then mostly discard it rather than trying to make full use of it for its full duration

[marble magnet]

I guess

But it's still

Just not good right?

You'd rather get use out of harpoons

[mellow crystal]

It's still meh yeah

[ocean birch]

can someone explain to me why my entire health just randomly turns into shield in the middle of fight?

[dusky raven]

turned you into a Perfected elite when you killed one, which has Full shield HP as part of its buff

[mellow crystal]

Flawed elite

[ocean birch]

thank you guys🙏

[dim sky]

how do you guys even play railgunner on the later stages of monsoon? its hard to get crit shots when theres a million enemies running at you..

[analog brook]

Most people when they get used to railgunner exclusively quick scope, so you look at the crit spot before scoping in, then you scope in and fire immediately and unscope, reload, and repeat
Railgunner can struggle with crowds so prioritizing some gasoline and will o wisps helps

You can use mines for a ton of distance between you and the enemies by shooting out two mine infront of you while holding the primary fire

[dim sky]

ive been trying to quickscope too but i miss a lot i guess i just need to practice more

[analog brook]

Yea it happens don't worry about it too much lol

Just imagine you're playing any other character in terms of aiming really, same as bandits special but you gotta press two buttons before taking the shot

[jaunty furnace]

also make sure your items are actually good

[dim sky]

thanks guys

[marble magnet]

For me (console player) I just get into the flow after a few stages

Don't worry about crit spots

Just focus on dodging

Make sure to use your special and default primary too! :)

Because I know that's something I forget sometimes

[sick sorrel]

Also what is your build?

[ornate gust]

If there are 2 seekers in a multiplayer game does that mean we can have 2 revives each?

[livid wedge]

Good question

[dim sky]

im not using artifact of command so i take whatever items i can get

[sick sorrel]

There's still some kind of build or playstyle that you are following

[sick sorrel]

❤️‍🔥

[dim sky]

it changes depending on the items, theres generalist items like crowbars and watches and proc stuff

i got trash printers on my run tho

[jaunty furnace]

no command doesnt mean no build lol

theres many ways to control your build

its a core part of a run

[dim sky]

just printers and shops right?

[jaunty furnace]

nope

[dim sky]

what else then

[jaunty furnace]

recycler, tricorn, executive card, sale star, chance doll, rusted key, encrusted key, shipment, tri-shops, various other tech you can do to maximize your power, etc etc etc

heres a guide to tell you a bunch of stuff
https://youtu.be/m4UPMPmKAPI

[dim sky]

im aware of those but theyre not guaranteed to appear

[jaunty furnace]

doesnt mean they dont appear

[dim sky]

ill give the video a watch, ty

[jaunty furnace]

you can also just watch one of this guy's runs to see how an experienced player plays

[dim sky]

bet

[jaunty furnace]

another general guide
https://youtu.be/p0sHUs0qv5k

[tender temple]

all you need to know to get better is play more and youll just get better at it

this isnt one of those games where you need to wiki warrior beforehand to learn EXCLUSIVE TIPS AND TRICKS to make it easier since most of the difficulty is just learning how things work and then learning to use them more efficiently

[vague hedge]

yea you kind of just have to play the game to get a feel for how to do things

keeping track of stage layouts is also a big thing since i know a lot of people get stuck on stage 1 looking for shit for like 15 minutes

[ornate gust]

If u kill false son and loop, are u able to fight him again?

[livid wedge]

No

[topaz stirrup]

So what's up with Void Fields nowadays? Used to be pretty underwhelming, then the meta, and now… I'm not sure how it sits in a post-SotS rework world. Is it worth going for still?

[sick sorrel]

Void Fields is extra loot, go or do not its your choice, personally i love it

[near blade]

do backup mags/hardlight afterburners/lysate cells increase the cooldowns, etc of heretic skills like stacking heresy items would?

[vague hedge]

no

only stacking heresy items increase cooldown on respective skills

idk why stacking mags would do that

[near blade]

I was pretty sure, but thanks!

[frosty reef]

15 is not that bad if you're getting items

[jaunty furnace]

yeah 15 is my average

[lime river]

when is alloyed collective coming?

[lavish jacinth]

november 18th

[thick pawn]

when is the dlc coming out is it tomorrow or a diff day?

[lime river]

right above you brother

[thick pawn]

yea but i meant has it changed or is it still 18th?

[lime river]

I don't think they announced a new date right

[jaunty furnace]

they wouldve told us if it changed

[lime river]

imagine they did and I haven't saved up any money yet

[vocal yacht]

Hello, when the game says “Obliterate your existence at the Monsoon,” will it count if I end the run right after beating the False Son (at the obelisk where you offer an item)? Or do I have to actually take the Celestial Portal?

[lavish jacinth]

beating False Son does count for mastery skins, yeah

the phrasing on that unlock is weird, all you have to do is win a run on monsoon difficulty, regardless of which ending you get

[vocal yacht]

Omg i’m so dumb. I’ve been trying for a week to beat the False Son and then go on to defeat Mithrix in the same run to unlock both skins for every character. But I keep failing for various reasons and always end up dying to one of the two bosses.

[lavish jacinth]

don't worry, you're not the first person to be confused

[vocal yacht]

Thank you ahahah

[errant patio]

Hi, when I beat the mithrix, is there anything else to do besides leaving with the escape shuttle ? If there is, please don't tell me exactly what

[vague hedge]

if u have sotv try some backtracking

otherwise u can visit the shrine of order and see what you get if you feel like it

[errant patio]

is sotv the dlc ?

[vague hedge]

yea survivors of the void

[errant patio]

But thanks ! I'm still exploring, trying to understand how ||obliterating at an obleisk|| works, but i'll figure out by myself i'm sure. I've also found a frog to pet after beating final boss

[vague hedge]

||lol thats the "anything else to do"||

u basically already found it so ||just interact with it 10 times and it opens a portal to voidling||

[errant patio]

What is the shrine ? i think i'm mistaken, is it the area with some items to buy ?

ohh

[vague hedge]

no that area we call soup land

[errant patio]

i've found the shrine of order in rallypoint delta already

[vague hedge]

yea and one is also guaranteed to spawn on the moon

ur not rly supposed to hit it but its just funny

[errant patio]

I've hit once and it ruined my game

10/10 very funny tho

So you meant that I should interact the frog 10 times ? I thought i did and nothing happened

[vague hedge]

it has a delay between interacts for some reason

itll show a message in chat when you do interact the frog

so just hit it a bunch of times until the thing spawns yeah

[errant patio]

Glad I asked here then, i would've missed this forever lmao

[vague hedge]

yea idk why you cant just hit e on it 10 times instantly

[errant patio]

thanks a lot, it's such a weird thing to do in a game

[vague hedge]

oh and i think each inrteract costs 1 lunar coin for whatever reason

ik not everyone cheats in lunar coins (also for whatever reason) so just a heads up

[errant patio]

Apparently the frog only does something with a DLC

[vague hedge]

yea thats why i said if u have sotv

cus it wouldnt open the portal otherwise

[errant patio]

Ohh okay

i thought this was linked to ||obliteratuib|| somehow

[vague hedge]

no you just have to enter a celestine portal

u know what looping is right

[errant patio]

Kind of

but i've got no clue what it adds other than just more playtime

i've looped once a few times and nothing really happened, i probably missed stuff

[vague hedge]

every stage 3 during a loop (so scorched acres, rallypoint delta, etc) after completing a teleporter event a celestine portal will open
go into the portal then interact w the obelisk and thats obliteration

[errant patio]

The blue portal ?

[vague hedge]

when u enter a stage itll tell you a celestine orb appears

blueish

[errant patio]

ohh so that was why there was a portal

i thought it would lead to the lunar shop area

thanks, this game confuses me very much

[sturdy oxide]

does anyone know how to get these items?

[lavish jacinth]

use a cleansing pool

they consume lunar items and give you a pearl, with 20% chance of an irradiant pearl

[weary oasis]

a lil question

idk if i ask this here

[lavish jacinth]

they're also pretty rare and won't spawn at all with artifact of command active, they're most common on aphelian santuary and treeborn colony iirc

[weary oasis]

but if i prefer playing alone what dlc should i buy

[lavish jacinth]

both are worth getting, but get SotV first imo

[weary oasis]

oh thanks

and i get alloyed last?

[lavish jacinth]

well, it's not out yet, so...

[weary oasis]

oh yeah i forgot

well ty

[lavish jacinth]

np

[sturdy oxide]

what was the cleansing pool??

[sturdy oxide]

interesting

thxxx

[glacial quail]

looking for a bit of monster log help

do you need perms to add pics?

[steady stone]

#roles !

any role will do

[glacial quail]

I didn't want to pick a favorite dammit

[steady stone]

platform will work too haha

or all of them

it's probably the scorch wurm log tho tbh

[glacial quail]

would those logs still show up even if I lack the seekers of the storm dlc?

[steady stone]

void jailer and scorch wurm looks like

[steady stone]

they "shouldnt" but scorch wurm specifically

[glacial quail]

jailer looks right

which one is the "locked" one?

[steady stone]

scorch wurm

[glacial quail]

weird

thanks for the help

[pallid mirage]

Palm blast or meditate for seeker

[lone compass]

personal preference
meditate has a free revive when you get full tranquility but palm blast has more damage potential

meditate also has awesome healing and gives the revive to teammates

[pallid mirage]

I thought she gets the revive as long as she has Max tranquility and I've never used the palm before

[lavish jacinth]

palm blast doesn't give saving grace

which also means you don't get the stat buffs that saving grace normally gives

[lone compass]

the revive is meditate only

[pallid mirage]

Good to know

I'll try out the Palm blast then because why not

[lone compass]

i definetly find it more fun

[pallid mirage]

It definitely is, I like how it's just✋

[lone compass]

high five!

[pallid mirage]

Hand to the face

And another question with drifter coming to ror2 how many items have fallen off the map for you guys

[amber swan]

Also heres my question how many items fell off the map that wasnt in treeborn

[pallid mirage]

Wdym by treeborn

[amber swan]

Tree born colony

The number 1 hotspot for items falling off the map

[pallid mirage]

I'm not sure I understand

[lavish jacinth]

treeborn colony
the map where items fall off a lot

[pallid mirage]

Ohhhhhh

Countless times then

[lone compass]

0, im mod pilled

[pallid mirage]

Is there any reason to have anymore than 10 lens makers

[lavish jacinth]

no

[lone compass]

little lower if you have crit greens

maybe spleen

[pallid mirage]

Why lower the crit rating though

[lone compass]

because the crit greens give +5% crit chance each

so having 10 lens makers with both greens equals to 110%

aka useless

[pallid mirage]

Interesting

Didn't know some greens gave crit

[livid wedge]

Ye, and two reds increase crit chance you already have

[signal pelican]

It's the 2 that require crits to proc

[lavish jacinth]

*only on the first stack though

[lone compass]

good note, yeah

[signal pelican]

Harvester's and Instincts give +5% crit chance on the first stack so they aren't entirely useless on their own

[lavish jacinth]

laser scope doesn't though, for some reason

[signal pelican]

Smth I wish Icbm and Ignition Tank did

Because those 2 are useless on their own

They exist purely to buff other items

[lavish jacinth]

hopoo somehow decided that hard synergy items are a good idea

[lone compass]

would it be busted for icbm to have 5% a missile chance

and it does 1 atg of damage

[signal pelican]

Probably not

Because it's a red and thus rarer than ATGs themselves

[lone compass]

hm

[signal pelican]

No idea how'd you make Ignition Tank work on its own but it's a green that synergizes with a white

So it's extremely likely you'll get both

[lavish jacinth]

my idea was to have it give you a flame trail like a blazing elite

[signal pelican]

And on Arti it does work on its own

[lavish jacinth]

(a small chance to ignite on hit would also work, but that's boring)

[lone compass]

i dont hate this

[signal pelican]

That was literally a red in RoR1

[lone compass]

as in i think its a neat idea but unlikely

[lavish jacinth]

I know

[livid wedge]

Or maybe you could build heat to ignite after a certain amount of basics

[lavish jacinth]

it'd be neat to have more items that let you weaponize mobility like that though

[signal pelican]

I doubt gbx would touch either tho

Because A. They don't want to touch anything Hopoo made

[livid wedge]

gbx is, unfortunately, not gonna touch hopoo stuff

Probably

[signal pelican]

B. They're already 2 of the strongest items in the game

So they don't need buffs/reworks

[livid wedge]

One of the two things they touched though was actually good

[amber swan]

The difference is that the blazinf elite trail sucks and is useless in 2 and in 1 its skrt of niche

[livid wedge]

Blacklisting Unstable Tesla Coil from enemies

[lavish jacinth]

well, they are reworking drones in AC

[signal pelican]

What was the other

[amber swan]

Give ignition tank a 4% chance to be thrown on hit for like big fire damag idk

[livid wedge]

The vields themselves

[signal pelican]

Ah

Right

[livid wedge]

Their first change was bleh, but the current balance is better than it was before

[signal pelican]

I forgot Vields has had a rocky history

[livid wedge]

Vields really should not have chest spawns

[amber swan]

Vields should have free scrapper and free item if you beat all void cell evens

[signal pelican]

They should blacklist Shuriken on Mithrix because holy fuck was it a wake up call

[livid wedge]

Vields having a guaranteed scrapper would be cool

Nah, I think shurikens make it a risk like it should be

[amber swan]

It has the exact same trajectory as the needles?!

[signal pelican]

I was only half joking

[livid wedge]

20 enemies getting tesla coils dealing damage every half second is literal garbage

Damage you cannot dodge

[lavish jacinth]

there's no counterplay to enemies in void fields having tesla coil, you just die

[signal pelican]

I'm just salty I lost my second attempt at unlocked VFiend to it

[amber swan]

Add to blacklist for similar reasons

[livid wedge]

Now the only real annoyance that should be banned is dios, or at least remove their 3 seconds of invulnerability

[amber swan]

Nah keep it

[lavish jacinth]

that reminds me, they also finally blacklisted safer spaces on mithrix so you can't get softlocked

[signal pelican]

That was a thing?

Wtf

[livid wedge]

That's been a thing since before I got sotv, thankfully

I just love invulnerable jellyfish being allowed to just explode on me

[lavish jacinth]

yea, blacklist should be reserved for cases where there's no way to reasonably counter something

enemies with dio is annoying but it's not a run-ender by any means

[livid wedge]

No, but in the vields is still very close to that

Because of the lack of space to maneuver

But I suppose that's a risk just like shuriken

Shuriken and bands I just auto leave vields

[lone compass]

shuriken is whatever

most enemies can't even proc bands

what

[livid wedge]

Except the shuriken/bands combo is especially deadly

I meant those two items together

[lone compass]

oh both of them together i get it

[livid wedge]

I also leave if they get tougher times and raps together

They just do not fucking die

[lavish jacinth]

speaking of shuriken, I wish they'd fix this shit

literally anti-homing

[livid wedge]

That's why I scrap shuriken on huntress.

Because I sprint and weave between enemies and do not fight head on

[lone compass]

i get why its like that, but i dont like that its like that

[lavish jacinth]

and they ARE supposed to have homing, hopoo just gave them some ridiculously overcomplicated formula for picking targets instead of just reusing the one that huntress uses

[livid wedge]

Wait, what

[lone compass]

they literally go away from enemies

huh

[livid wedge]

They have homing

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[livid wedge]

I have never seen evidence of that in games

[lavish jacinth]

probably because their "homing" looks like this lmao

[livid wedge]

If the homing is indistinguishable from randomness, what the fuck is the point

[lone compass]

hopoop

[livid wedge]

The hopoo giveth and the hopoo taketh away

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't help that it's extremely subtle, iirc they only curve like 10 degrees per second which barely makes a difference with how fast they move

[livid wedge]

A lot of the time I've seen them curve away from the only target

[lone compass]

if shurikens homed correcly they'd be a lot scarier on mithrix

[livid wedge]

I wish they didn't have homing

[lone compass]

Yknow what, yeah

[lavish jacinth]

I think it's just supposed to make it easier to use, you can focus on aiming your actual primary while the shurikens mostly aim themselves

but their logic for picking targets is so awful that it ends up being worse than if it didn't exist lol

[livid wedge]

They don't need it; they're fast enough as is

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it would probably be helpful if it worked the same way huntress' aiming does

which basically just picks the closest target within a 90 degree cone around your crosshair iirc

[lone compass]

close enough

That'd be fucked up though

they'd aim at the unimportant beetle following me around while i'm trying to damage the boss

[livid wedge]

eh, I'd like for them to take some kind of skill

[lone compass]

why does it look like it goes away from enemies

[livid wedge]

yeah

I've had to correct aim sometimes because they're curving away

[lavish jacinth]

because that's what that formula does, apparently

[livid wedge]

Alright then

[lavish jacinth]

I can't imagine that's what hopoo intended for it to do, because why the fuck would you design it to work against you like that

but that's what the code does

[lone compass]

they forgot a - in the code 😂

[livid wedge]

Anyway, I also don't like them because I don't like the noise they make

Similar vibes to nails on a chalkboard to me

[lavish jacinth]

oh yeah, the noise is awful
plasma shrimp might be slightly worse for me but they're both horrid

[livid wedge]

Yeah, I also avoid plimp

[lavish jacinth]

did they really? I'm shit at coding lol

[lavish jacinth]

I tolerate them because they're good items, even if they make my ears bleed

[lone compass]

im joshing

would be really comical if that truly was the only problem

considering they go the opposite way its not entirely out of the question

[marble bison]

The Demons And The Crabs

I've been trying to get the achievement for days and chasing crabs until they fall into the void, am I doing something wrong and why doesn't the achievement progress bar advance? -I play on switch

[livid wedge]

My recommendation is to get the primordial cube equipment by the time you get to looped titanic plains

The blackhole will just drag them off the edge a drop them, which counts

[thick pawn]

is the DLC coming out tomorrow?

[glacial knoll]

this guy spent a whole day forgetting it's october not november 💔

[celest pond]

Guys, where is Legendary chest in Helminth Hatchery?

[dusky raven]

???There isn’t one

It’s a stage 5

A natural one can spawn but it’s really rare

[celest pond]

ty

[rigid bolt]

yo

im on stage 14 and i havent even reached the primordial teleporter

why am i not finding the sky meadow or the lava area

[livid wedge]

Uhh, do you have mods on?

[rigid bolt]

no

[dusky raven]

The primordial should be on stage 15,

Unless you’ve been stuck on the same stage for the past few levels

[livid wedge]

Should be on every stage a multiple of five

[glass dune]

is there anything I should know about the false son bossfight, I went there as captain on stage 4 and got vaporized when he dashed towards me lol

[jaunty furnace]

get drones to draw aggro and find proper speed and defense

there is also a method to cheese phase 1 and 2

[glass dune]

thanks

[outer umbra]

Which aspects are the best

Is there a tier list

[jaunty furnace]

blazing, overloading and perfected are pretty much the only ones that can actually be useful

[outer umbra]

Ok

[south egret]

Mending is good, if you have a lot of minions

[brittle shuttle]

i mean drones are rarely ever at risk of dying and when they are its usually for any onetap situation

[south egret]

Paradoxically not good on Engi, though, since your turrets inherit your equipment

[south egret]

Void fog is one helluva bitch

[brittle shuttle]

your mending isnt saving all of your drones from void fog

[south egret]

But healing them from half health sure is useful

[brittle shuttle]

it may keep a single squid polyp that activated from starting a void cell alive but other than that yeah its kinda the worst aspect in the game for a good reason

[south egret]

Speaking of which, drones should have at least a 1hp/s regen

[willow iris]

is it possible to turn off the spinel tonic visual effects?

[south egret]

Not without mods

You’re looking for RemoveScreenEffect

[willow iris]

thank you

[lavish jacinth]

They do? I think they all have 5hp/s(+1 per level)

[south egret]

Huh, crazy

TIL

[lavish jacinth]

Blazing > overloading > perfected > Twisted > mending > glacial > malachite > gilded > Celestine

Twisted might move up a tier or two if you put it on an equipment drone though. (Same with celestine but it's still pretty mid)

Blazing is the best by far just because exists

[brittle shuttle]

Gilded that low?

Automatically i would put gilded up above mending/glacial for atleast doing something thats more beneficial than a built in chronobauble or shitty team healing

[lavish jacinth]

Honestly I wasn't sure where to put gilded lol

Plus it likes to randomly destroy your framerate

[glacial knoll]

that's mostly when engi turrets get it but probably still bad on players

[lone compass]

gilded commando

[pure field]

which is better to do on monsoon obliterate or mithrix

[topaz stirrup]

Depends on preference. I usually go for obliteration because I haven't learned any pillar skip strats, but if you plan on climbing Eclipse it may be worth fighting Mithrix just to build good habits

[hoary sedge]

obliterating is easier but yeah it's probably better to fight mithrix bc it helps you actually learn the game

[neat pebble]

How do I get acrid

[lone compass]

beat void fields

[jaunty furnace]

mithrix is an actual challenge
obliterate is cheese

fun challenge vs pretty much just a win button

[sage cape]

does the logbook run history show which run unlocked specific achievements

[lavish jacinth]

Pretty sure it doesn't

[hoary sedge]

no it doesn't

if you're on steam ig you could cross reference the achievement unlock time with the run history?

[lavish jacinth]

assuming run history actually saved the run correctly in the first place

[radiant jungle]

does 57 leaf clover interact with tougher times

[lavish jacinth]

no

[radiant jungle]

thats lame

[lavish jacinth]

it makes sense balance-wise

[trim lynx]

itd be kinda boring if it did

[radiant jungle]

i care not for game balance in rogue likes

[lavish jacinth]

clover would be disproportionately effective on TT if it did work

and clover is still one of the best reds in the game, if you want to block all damage just stack safer spaces

[radiant jungle]

yea i was just hoping since i just got double 57 leaf clover

does 57 leaf clover interact with sale star

[lavish jacinth]

wiki says it does, not sure exactly how they interact though

I guess it just rolls extra times and picks whichever roll gives you the most items

you'd need at least 2 sale stars for it to do anything though

[radiant jungle]

ok thanks, and a final question, is it worth going for shaped glass/stone flux pauldron in a looped run

[lavish jacinth]

glass maybe, if you're good at dodging, stone flux no

[radiant jungle]

ok

[lavish jacinth]

(unless you're false son, I guess)

but otherwise if you want to cancel out glass's health reduction, go for a few stacks of instead

[narrow olive]

So idk if this has happened to anyone else, but last night I logged onto ror2 on my Xbox and I wanna say a weeks worth of progress just disappeared

Like the alt abilities for huntress that I unlocked a week or so ago and some colors and other abilities just gone

[lavish jacinth]

rip
yeah, this is a known issue, particularly on consoles.
(I've heard it has something to do with the quick resume feature on xbox? dunno about other platforms though)

unfortunately there isn't a whole lot you can do about it besides doing the unlocks again and hoping that it gets patched when AC comes out

[narrow olive]

I’m praying because that’s really annoying. I’m glad it’s not EVERYTHING but it’s still a pain in the ass because I just got false son’s alt dash ability 😭

[topaz stirrup]

oh that one is a pain in the ass 😭 my condolences

[pure field]

Dude i lagged right before i killed mithrix i was so close to gte the monsoon ksin

if i lagged out and it kicked to the lobby woll i get the skin if my friends kills it

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[loud folio]

Would anyone happen to know if a patch is going to be released alongside AC? I've just started playing again and I've noticed a few minor (mostly audio) bugs.

[jaunty furnace]

yes

it would be weird if it wasnt the case lol

[loud folio]

Makes sense I suppose

thanks

[signal pelican]

It needs to have a patch to add support for the dlc

[brittle shuttle]

(and we know that the ai overhaul wont just be a dlc exclusive feature #lol)

[primal vector]

Bugfixes have been confirmed. Which bugs? That we dont know

[vague hedge]

many consider the enemy "blind pest" to be a bug of sorts

[quasi topaz]

Walk in a circle to fix the bug

[nocturne sierra]

Does the hacking beacon for captain activate sale star

[livid wedge]

Yes

[dusky raven]

Ok i need to know if anyone else has experienced this

Does Blast Shower remove the dimensional aura granted by Unstable Transmitter?

[jaunty furnace]

never tried

sounds like something it would do though

blast shower removes all debuffs, resets item cooldowns, and deletes nearby projectiles

maybe it counts transmitter as a projectile?

[dusky raven]

my bet is that it still treats it as a buff type cooldown back from pre-rework transmitter

tested it a couple more times, sure does remove it

[jaunty furnace]

does transmitter give you a buff icon

[dusky raven]

not anymore but it used too

[dry crown]

will we ever get crossplatfrom between pc, xbox and playstation? or is it too difficult for devs to do/multiplayer not built with it being possible?

[glacial knoll]

not any time soon if ever

[peak holly]

Almost certainly never coming

[dry crown]

Aw damn that sucks. Hopefully if theres another game it will have it from the start

[neat knot]

How do i not be ass at mul-t

[lone compass]

the pizza sound bug has been confirmed fixed

[lone compass]

know your primaries, know what items synergize with them best

if you're running the base nailgun rebar combo you should keep proc items, like bleed uke and atg, as well as bands and crowbars and such

in addition to survivability and utility

[topaz stirrup]

aye, Mul-T is the most "dealer's choice" survivor there is. Any skill loadout generally works with any set of items.

[left forge]

Or double rebar retool for a free win

[topaz stirrup]

or double rebar retool for a free win

[frosty reef]

double nail powermode

[brittle shuttle]

tanky commando

[lone compass]

or double rebar retool to fall asleep mid run

[lone compass]

i like how you think

[warm gazelle]

So I'm guessing no one actively does multiplayer?

[lavish jacinth]

It's not super active but there should be a few lobbies at least. If you're on steam and aren't seeing any, turn off crossplay

I think most people prefer to do singleplayer or private lobbies with friends though. Playing with randos is pretty ass

[rare karma]

what is the best loadout for engineer

[lone compass]

general consensus is spider mines and harpoons

sentry is preference

i use both depending on my mood

[hoary sedge]

people generally say stationary is better but neither are bad

it's basically just do you want turrets that you have to upkeep more but never die or ones that can follow you and use genloop

[crisp timber]

both are fine, but sentry is kinda just objectively better, lowkey.

it has better DPS and procs, and even though it can't move, the walking ones kinda kamikaze anyways because they insist on hugging the guys they're trying to shoot

[hoary sedge]

if you use the wall clip cheese stationary are better

I mean stationary does have more consistent procs but if you math it out both turrets are almost identical in terms of damage and procs per second

which is also completely irrelevant if you plan on taking visions (which I almost always do on engie lmao)

yes mobile run into danger but that means they can use on hit and low health items more effectively

and them dying doesn't really matter if you have any cdr like bandolier

[crisp timber]

oh wait doesn't sentry also have longer range

although laser has the slow, which is nice

[crisp timber]

yeah they're pretty close, but teeechnically stationary beats it out by like 10% base or something right

[lone compass]

60m vs 25m

[crisp timber]

holy cwap

brutally range mogged

[lone compass]

range would matter if the stationary bothered to shoot what was important

but no they go for the rando beetle

[crisp timber]

racking up the eco kills

[hoary sedge]

do note that this is the lock on range, mobile turrets can hit things past 25m once locked on

[topaz stirrup]

mobile turret AI bothers the hell out of me. my stationary runs are more consistent even w/o wallclip cheese just because I can place my turret in a dense area and expect it to do it's thing

[lone compass]

whats the actual range 30?

[hoary sedge]

I think so? not sure and wiki doesn't say

[topaz stirrup]

i hope AC does a pass on mobile turret AI lol

[hoary sedge]

also another weird thing about turret aiming

mobile turrets have perfect accuracy with visions for some reason

I genuinely cannot figure out why

it must be inheriting some stat from the laser

[lone compass]

its because they hit from closer so the innacuracy doesnt matter as much

visions doesnt change any if their ranges

[hoary sedge]

sorry not perfect accuracy as in they always hit but perfect accuracy as in 0 spread or bloom

unless im tweaking and visions is always like that

[lone compass]

same reason

the tracking takes over immediatelly

[mental sierra]

Can i do the band minigame on stage 2 after ive done teleporter?

[lavish jacinth]

Yes

[lone compass]

yeah

[supple bough]

does anyone know what causes the game to just keep putting me on stage two maps over and over again?

It's happened two runs in a row so far

[lavish jacinth]

known bug, there's a thread about it with some potential fixes #1381776398422642860 message

[pallid mirage]

Is it worth having a bunch of delicate watches

[lavish jacinth]

probably not, depending on how many "a bunch" is

watches are great, but if they break then you potentially lose a ton of damage, and it's always better to mix different damage sources anyway

[pure field]

whats the lore a moment fractured and a moment whole and what does mercanary have to do with fractured

with

[pallid mirage]

That's fair

[lavish jacinth]

I think #theorycrafting does the deep lore stuff, if that's what you want.
afaik mercenary has nothing to do with it, that's just where they decided to put his unlock

if you want the in-game lore you can just check the wiki https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/A_Moment,_Fractured

[jaunty furnace]

yes

but you need to also diversify your damage items

damage items multiply each other

[glacial quail]

Any tips for completing the loader's "swing by" challenge on monsoon?

[heavy thistle]

does brilliant behemoth damage myself if I use it too close? like with loader?

[frosty reef]

only with the chaos artifact. Only thing that will damage yourself without that artifact enabled is Captain's Diablo Strike

[jaunty furnace]

also rex's health cost abilities and seeker's sojourn, obviously

other than that i cant recall any player attacks that can damage you

i guess theres also

[heavy thistle]

oh ok tysm y'all

[glacial quail]

The blue equipment in general

Does the radar scanner ping environment logs in hidden environments?

[hoary sedge]

i think so? if it does it should be a ? icon

[south python]

u dont need any additional items to pillar skip with artificer right?

[frosty reef]

If you're using ion surge then yes

There's quite a few pillar skip videos on YT if you need references to copy. Don't think it'll be needed for the ion surge skip but could help with other ones you're attempting

[errant patio]

Hi, which skill is the best between arrow rain and balista ?

[steady stone]

Ballista gives her a solid burst option whereas arrow rain falls behind due to mediocre damage and low proc coefficient

Nothing unusable, but not the best either

[jaunty furnace]

arrow rain is just ass

0.2 proc coefficient

[heavy trout]

how can this even happen? How come im on this stage at stage 5?

[jaunty furnace]

bug 🎉

[heavy trout]

aha

[steep blaze]

What's the deal with golden dieback environment log? I've looked up where to find it and online it tells me I can't???

[frosty reef]

bug 🎉

[steep blaze]

All the stuff online is from like 2019 telling me it's bugged so this has been inaccessable for years?

[steady stone]

the map came with sots, so 2024

still a very long time though

[steep blaze]

Aah

[wintry crag]

What’s a build with Enginner I could do with Command where I can just stand there and let the turrets do everything

[steady stone]

with a you can overlap the 3 bungus aoes from the turrets along with a 4th from yours

other than that, normal proc and damage items

[lavish jacinth]

Also

letting the turrets do everything is basically just a normal engineer build

[wintry crag]

Does that buff my turrets or just for the drones so I can truly just stand there and do nothing

[steady stone]

all "mechanical" allies

so yeah turrets

and also like, goobo mul-t, it isnt limited to drones

[brave acorn]

can someone send me a loader and huntress build

i dont know what to get

[steady stone]

huntress works best with proc but works with about anything, whereas loader is best with burst and total damage

[brave acorn]

can u tell me what items to get

i dont even know the items names

do the hand signs

[steady stone]

proc would be like and such, stuff that has a chance to activate

[brave acorn]

thanks

what would be great items for loader?

[steady stone]

stuff like this you'd have to look at their descriptions for

the total means it's based off the damage of the hit that activated it, and not their base damage

total is what you want on loader, since she hits really hard every 5 or so seconds

[brave acorn]

can you please send me some emoji of good items for loader

[lavish jacinth]

are the big ones for loader, but anything that multiplies damage in some way is gonna be good, including total damage procs

[brave acorn]

[steady stone]

a lot of items are pretty universal

[lavish jacinth]

I'd list more but I'm on mobile and sending emojis is really annoying lmao

[steady stone]

like is just a flat boost

[keen comet]

Anyone who plays with Captain has tips for it? I'm struggling to find good items for him

[lavish jacinth]

You don't have to worry too much about getting "perfect" builds btw

Items are sorta designed with randomness in mind, Ideally you want to get as much variety as possible since they tend to build on each other, especially damage items

[steady stone]

charging your m1 stops sprint, but you can sprint during it by tapping again

it helps your dodging

it makes him feel a lot less sluggish

[lavish jacinth]

You basically build captain the same way you'd build commando

Proc items are great, especially bleed

[brave acorn]

did they remove coffe from the game?

[lavish jacinth]

Use taser to shut down dangerous enemies for a bit or to hold them in place for his utility

And buy drones, if you weren't already

[lavish jacinth]

? No

[brave acorn]

is it expansion item?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[steady stone]

sotv

[brave acorn]

fawk

[wintry crag]

No way I never knew that

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's basically the same as

It's exactly half of those items

[brave acorn]

what should i get

which expansion is better

[lavish jacinth]

Both are worth getting, but get sotv first imo

[steady stone]

sotv is better if you want items, while sots is better in the stage aspect

generally sotv is considered better though, which id have to agree

[weary cipher]

survivors of the void is better for characters and items, but the seekers of the storm stages are sooooo good.

id get survivors of the void first

[lavish jacinth]

I wouldn't say sotv is better for survivors

[weary cipher]

yeah i guess thats more opinion on me

I dont like chef and false son, but railgunner and fiend are in my top 3

[lavish jacinth]

I recommend sotv because most of its content directly expands on normal gameplay

[steady stone]

i generally hear that people prefer sots survivors, but i'd also say sotv is better honestly

[lavish jacinth]

Most of the sots stuff is based around the alt path, it doesn't have much of a presence unless you go out of your way for it

[weary cipher]

yeah thats true, compared to the void seeds being apparent in your average stages

[lavish jacinth]

Seekers also has fewer new enemies and items

[frosty reef]

I really wish they reworked the sots enemies in the enemy rework update

Would recommend the dlc a lot more if so

[weary cipher]

scorch wurms are so buns bro

although the children might be worse.

[frosty reef]

Children at least function as you'd assume they would by looking at them. Worms literally just shoot 90° to the side across the map and spawn a damage circle on top of you or get stuck in walls

[lavish jacinth]

Don't forget halcyonite's animation-cancelling jank

[brittle shuttle]

I think children are fine
Worms i dont care for but a little bit of work would make them infinitely better
Halcyonites are halcyonites

i dont even mind normal halcyonites not that you see them very often

Its gilded halcyonites lovely gold to stats scaling

and false son who primarily just needs another run through on his phase 1 some ai fixing and removing cheese spots from his arena

[brave acorn]

is there any life steal item

[steady stone]

which isnt very good, and

is on crit only

[brave acorn]

what do i get as hunress

[lavish jacinth]

Theres also but it's an equipment and the cooldown is pretty long

[lavish jacinth]

For healing? Healing drones, and are always solid, and is decent

works in a pinch but it takes up your equipment slot

[brave acorn]

i die too fast as huntress

is there nay defensive

[lavish jacinth]

You'll wanna practice movement and dodging, for every survivor but especially huntress

It's always better to avoid damage in the first place than to try to heal from it

are good defensive items

Don't neglect speed though

[brave acorn]

which void item should i get as huntre3ss?

[lavish jacinth]

Generally item priority is damage > speed > defense > healing

[lavish jacinth]

[brave acorn]

vungus first/

?

[weary cipher]

Idk about needletick, I like bleed a lot on huntress.

[frosty reef]

needletick is for sure the more consistent choice on huntress. Especially not being able to manipulate the autoaim to 1 specific enemy a lot of the time. Depends on what primary you're choosing as well

[weary cipher]

Hmmm really? I always assumed since she has a faster fire rate primary that bleed is far more beneficial. I like running flurry a lot, so Is needletick still better?

[brave acorn]

what does needletick convert?

[steady stone]

[brave acorn]

thanks

[frosty reef]

Flurry's . 7 proc means bleed will go away quicker than normal. But I mean if you get a bunch of bleed regardless on huntress like you'll probably be fine. Can't always choose to get 6+ though

[lavish jacinth]

Tick also synergizes better with glaive

[lavish jacinth]

This also depends on how much crit you're able to get, flurry's proc rate is worse until around 35% crit iirc

[brave acorn]

what does needletick do

[lavish jacinth]

10% chance (+10%/ stack) to apply a stack of collapse

After 3 seconds, all collapse stacks explode at once for 400% base damage each

[brave acorn]

wahts collapse

oh thanks

does mroe ukulele do anythng?>

[lavish jacinth]

More range and it bounces to more enemies

+2m and +2 targets per stack

Btw, you can check what stuff does with the in-game logbook, or if you turn on "enable inspect" in settings (under that umbrella settings tab on the first page)

[brave acorn]

is ther any way to undo void item conversion?

[lavish jacinth]

Not really

can be consumed which will let you pick up the normal version again, and can turn them into more of itself but then you have to deal with the ego stacks

And if you're using artifact of command then there's no way to get rid of lunar items because cleansing pools don't spawn

[brave acorn]

dam

[steady ruin]

Does 57 leaf clover increase lunar coin drops

[lavish jacinth]

iirc no

[brave acorn]

do you guys know what items i should get on artificer?

couple examples if possible

[frosty reef]

@brave acorn I feel like if you want a good understanding of what items go with what survivor you'd benefit from watching run videos of that specific survivor. You can look up Race on YT for a better understanding

[brave acorn]

i dont plan to know everything

i just want a basic build and enjoy

[jaunty furnace]

disabling command may also help 🐱

[lavish jacinth]

you don't need to know everything, just understanding some basics will take you pretty far

and there's a lot you can learn just by playing the game and paying attention to how stuff interacts. Like the fact that proc items can proc each other, increasing their damage output exponentially in some cases

[coarse fox]

i.e. procs , which then procs

Proc chains are quite cool once you get enough on-hit items

[lavish jacinth]

if you just want a fairly low-effort build that works consistently, proc chains are one of the best options, just get as many different proc effects as you can and stack them, throwing in multipliers like crit or for good measure, with speed/defense/healing as needed

[lavish jacinth]

but if you do want to actively get better at the game then yeah, turning off command is a good idea. It's good for trying out items and practicing, but playing without it forces you to experiment and find synergies on your own

[glacial quail]

does having on hit/on kill effects invalidate railgunner:trickshot?

seems like it's not triggering and I'm wondering if it's gasoline or willowisp

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I'm pretty sure enemies specifically have to die to supercharge and not other items

[fossil ice]

yes it has to specifically be the single shot

however it's not terribly hard, I got it in like the first ten minutes of playing railgunner

[lavish jacinth]

you can probably have it done in like 30 seconds if you get some wisps or beetles lined up

or use

[prime frigate]

I accidentally got trickshot by shooting three pots on aqueduct :/

[fossil ice]

I don't know why I haven't thought of that before

they're effectively passive mobs

[prime frigate]

Kinda cheesy, no weak point mark, so it isn't incredibly obvious

[timid matrix]

I mean this achievement is like the easiest in the game
I got it within a minute of my first time playing railgunner
All you have to do is run from 3 of any weak enemy so they group together, jump, and fire

Not to mention it'll probably be more like 7 enemies

[weary cipher]

is fiend m1 slow the same slow as chronobauble slow, or do they count as two different debuffs for death mark?

[lavish jacinth]

different icon, so it's a different debuff

(chronobauble's slow is also slightly stronger)

[sharp sundial]

there's no item that inflicts that specific slow afaik, just viend m1, seeker m1, and engi's mobile turrets

and yeah chrono's slow is unique to itself, if you see different color ⬇️ arrows those count as separate debuffs

[pure field]

im fighting kip kip the gentle right now but he jus keeps on healing is there anything i can do or do i jus reset

[lavish jacinth]

my condolences

[lone compass]

what character

[pure field]

loader

[lone compass]

rip

[pure field]

oh boy

[lone compass]

thats worst case scenario

kip kip has a million billion medkits

[lavish jacinth]

and monster teeth, which proc from the orange blob attack

if you can bait him into throwing the blobs far enough that he doesn't pick up any healing orbs, and constantly damage him so that medkit never procs, it is technically possible to kill him

but iirc he can literally heal his entire healthbar from picking up a single orb

so yeah just reset lmao

[pure field]

ok ok lol

[lavish jacinth]

they really need to fix that boss, but nobody cares about twisted scavs, not even the devs lmao

[pure field]

do you even get anything for ebating him i thought you could a get a aheievment

[lavish jacinth]

they accidentally buffed the hell out of kipkip when they reworked medkit and monster tooth to do %health healing instead of just a flat amount

that was years ago and it's never been fixed

[lone compass]

you get 10 lunar coins plus something else maybe

i dont remember

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think so

[lone compass]

mastery

[lavish jacinth]

on the bright side, twisted scav has 4 possible variants, so there's a 3/4 chance to get one that's actually killable

But yeah iirc there's literally no reason at all to kill it

it doesn't even have its own logbook entry so it doesn't matter for completion

[pure field]

ive only gotten kip kip four times in a row

[lavish jacinth]

rip

there's an environment log and an artifact code to be found there, but you don't have to kill the boss to get those

[pure field]

ill prob get the log later

[mellow crystal]

Evil kipkip that kills itself to deal guaranteed damage to you

[lone compass]

rexrex the rough?

[lavish jacinth]

apparently he only has 3
but he's got the rejuv rack + corpsebloom combo, so 3 is more than enough

oh and he has 3 genloops, so if you somehow manage to get his health below 25%, you'll have to deal with that on top of all the other bullshit lmao

[lone compass]

makes sense makes sense

twisted scavs kinda fucking evil

ill do a run with the sole purpose of killing one of those guys

i havent done it yet

[lavish jacinth]

I've fought them a handful of times, the others aren't so bad

[mellow crystal]

How many items do the twisted scavs carry on average
I kinda wanna see what the most evil item combination possible could be

[lavish jacinth]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Twisted_Scavenger