ror2-game-questions

[lavish jacinth]

if you leave them alone and don't get too close, they usually won't bother you

and if you do kill one they drop a bag full of loot (only once per stage though)

[short bolt]

So tell me why I just logged on and lots of progress was removed???

[lavish jacinth]

RIP
that's a rare-ish bug that can happen, if you're on console then there's not much you can do about it unfortunately

you just have to do the unlocks again

[patent blade]

Right quick, where the fuck are the void fields?

[lavish jacinth]

in the bazaar, go backwards from the starting platform and jump down, there's a cave down below it that leads there

[patent blade]

Isn't that dlc or something?

[lavish jacinth]

nop, vields is base game

[patent blade]

Thanks lmao

[timid matrix]

its confusing without context, vields were in the game before the dlc
The dlc expanded upon the concept

[cunning elbow]

How to avoid playing the false son boss and play the regular boss mode?

[lavish jacinth]

just use the regular teleporter instead of green portals

[cunning elbow]

green portals are random? what if its like a blue or a gold one?

[lavish jacinth]

green portals aren't random, they always spawn if you're on the alternate stage path leading to false son, or doing a halcyon shrine or gilded coast on certain stages.
Blue and gold portals are fine to take, it's only green portals that lead to False Son

[cunning elbow]

every green portal can lead to that if ur below stage 4?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

and the teleporter will bring you back to regular stages

green portals lead to an alternate stage path that always goes to False Son if you keep using them, but they're entirely optional

[cunning elbow]

Imma stop clicking the green ones

I always thought green portals was just the teleport ones

[lavish jacinth]

nah, just hit the actual teleporter if you just wanna follow the normal path, portals are always like a side area

[mild wind]

I was trying to play but i cant load single or anything up in the game?

[jaunty furnace]

are you playing with mods

[trim brook]

is stoneflux good for engineer

[tender temple]

Spoiler it's not good on anyone besides false son

It's use case is limited by:
Are you false son?
And are you so deep into loops that you have so much speed that you need to get rid of it?

[plush crest]

yo. im wondering if pc and xbox can play risk of rain 2 together?

[mild wind]

No. Just trying to play the game

[jaunty furnace]

do you want to say goodbye to all of your movement

[trim brook]

no not really

[jaunty furnace]

then stay far away

[lavish jacinth]

No

[lavish jacinth]

Do you have steam/epic crossplay enabled? Turn it off if so

[patent blade]

I once got 2 stoneflux on commando

Shit was pain

[jaunty furnace]

why did you pick up the second one 😭

[patent blade]

Friend made me

We were also playing command

[bitter juniper]

other than command, what are must have artifacts

[jaunty furnace]

you dont need artifacts

[last field]

they're not necessary really

[bitter juniper]

oh i know that, what are some fun ones

im getting metamorphosis rn seems like it will not be the best but it sounds fun

[jaunty furnace]

if youre planning to get 100% one day then youll have to get them all anyway

[bitter juniper]

yeah but like what are some fun ones in your opinion

[brittle shuttle]

Devotion

[bitter juniper]

wtf my switch jsut crashed while playing

my entire console

[viral sorrel]

whats the chance of lunar coins dropping from enemies

[mild wind]

I hear you. But wow okay xD

[native prairie]

How are you supposed to play engineer before the teleporter event? Just drop turret and keep running collecting stuff?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, crossplay is such a glitchy mess that it even breaks singleplayer sometimes lmao

[lavish jacinth]

0.5% initially, but it gets halved every time a coin drops

[lavish jacinth]

The way I do it is to put one turret down at a time while keeping the other one off cooldown, ideally on some sort of high ground. That way it can cover me and occasionally get some free kills, and I always have the other one ready if I need it

also protip, unlock his alt secondary and utility if you haven't already

[viral sorrel]

okurrr thanks

[native prairie]

Thanks a lot. Will try to unlock those. I had a look at the utility one but it says I have to leave no enemies on the level. How would I do that?

[lavish jacinth]

Enemies stop spawning when the teleporter is at 99%, so just charge it and leave the boss alive, then go around the stage and hunt down any remaining enemies. helps with finding them, since the missiles have unlimited homing range

[kindred dragon]

i wondered why someone player called survivor a "returning survivor" , and for some reason, it feel like my brain is playing on me.

[steady stone]

it's returning as in it's featured in a previous game, if that's the question

[kindred dragon]

oh right, from ror1

[steady stone]

like how Chef isn't "new" per se

[kindred dragon]

but isn't is it freatured n ror1 too?

[steady stone]

[kindred dragon]

oh yeah i forgot chef is also freatured in ror1, but for some reason, it took age for chef to be added in ror2

i forgot say ty for making me to stop wonder any futher lol

[edgy swift]

Does anyone know how to unlock the locked items?

[novel flame]

find them

[lavish jacinth]

Hover over locked stuff in the logbook, it'll tell you how to get them

[native prairie]

ah thanks, will try that

[thin moon]

Can you fight False Son multiple times in a run? My hg and I have been looping for 2 hours and can’t seem to get to him

(We’re not specifically looking for him, but I was curious if it’s possible)

[crisp timber]

you cannot

[thin moon]

Sucks.
Thanks for the answer!

[crisp timber]

cheers

[potent grove]

Anyone got tips to dodging stuff like wisps that have like hitscan attacks, I watch vids of exlipse 8 and they clap but I cant avoid the perma damage at all

[lavish jacinth]

Just jumping away from the beam helps a lot, or dashing away from them since their range is pretty short. Also kill them on sight, their accuracy makes them a priority target and they die if you look at them funny

Having some drones taking aggro also helps

[clear whale]

Wisps are very fragile

Blind Pests are Wisps but with increased damage and health

[lavish jacinth]

Oh and if you can, it helps to play with headphones so you can hear their attack winding up if they're behind you

[clear whale]

Also doesnt wisp has perfect hitscan tracking

[lavish jacinth]

Most enemies have pretty noticeable sound cues

It's not perfect but they are very accurate

There's enough of a delay that dodging is possible though

[clear whale]

Basically you want to focus on:
Wisp and Greater Wisp
Elder Lemurian
Brass Constructions
Larva
Blind Pest

Do NOT get close to an elder lemurian

It can shotgun you easily

[lavish jacinth]

Imo target priority is basically

1. How likely is it to hit me
2. If it does, how much damage will it deal

[lavish jacinth]

Or do, you can bait out their flamethrower and run behind them while they're locked into the animation

[clear whale]

Could

But just dont do it while its breathing out fireballs

[lavish jacinth]

Well yeah

[clear whale]

(Their mouth have fires when theyre doing that attack)

[lavish jacinth]

Running at an enemy while they're actively shooting at you is generally not recommended (unless it's a brass contraption and you're specifically running forward and to the left)

[potent grove]

Okay sweet ty, also do you know how to dodge grandfathers sun attack thing or collapse, only two things that have ever ended my runs, one stack of collapse one taps me or like being in the same map as grandfather means death

[lavish jacinth]

With the grandparent sun you just get behind cover, same as a vagrant nova

Collapse comes from voidtouched elites, so avoiding it depends on the specific enemy type

Just keep an eye out for them and always kill void infestors on sight

[graceful dust]

I wonder what happened to flying lemurians in ror2

[lavish jacinth]

They flew away

[graceful dust]

what about the cavalry

[potent grove]

Tysm for the help I appreciate it

is there a mod to remove the 4096 item cap that I am getting in exponential items mod?

[paper isle]

The lesser wisp spawn and attack sounds are burned into the very core of my being

[daring summit]

Hi, I’m looking for eclipse guides and I’ve already watched the most popular guides on youtube. I want to beat Eclipse 8 on every survivor. Currently I beat Eclipse 1 for: Engineer,Acrid,Railgunner,False Son and Chef.
I know I’m supposed to lose most of the time because that’s how I learn how to play better but I feel like something’s missing, as if I don’t know which build I should run for each survivor, which items are good for them and which items I should avoid

[dapper bison]

Do NOT get close to elder lemurians
Worst mistake of my life

[dapper bison]

Collapse is basically a stack of damage that voidtouched elites have a chance to inflict on hit. Once you got it there’s not much you can do avoid it except using , or healing yourself as much as possible to avoid it killing you once it goes off. That being said, avoiding strong attacks from voidtouched enemies makes sure you don’t get a high damage proc of collapse on ya

Kinda sucks cause there’s not much counterplay against it but yeah

Oneshot protection does protect you against it some too, so healing to max helps but yehh

[dim sky]

friends, how do i access the sotv areas? i wanna unlock void fiend

[high forum]

Simulacrum is under alternate game modes

[hoary sedge]

you can also get to void locus (which takes you to the sotv boss) by finding a purple portal, which spawn randomly at any point stage 7 or later, or you get a guaranteed one for clearing void fields. you can also get there with a bazaar seer but that's kinda rare

there is also a secret on commencement that takes you straight to voidling after going back to the spawn area during the escape sequence

[livid wedge]

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[forest depot]

bluroc_16 was banned.

[high forum]

[visual idol]

Mr beast!!

[livid wedge]

Big mcthankies from mcspankies

[dim sky]

ty just got him unlocked

[mellow crystal]

Collapse damage actually isn't that predictable because it isn't based on the damage of the attack, it's based on the enemy's damage stat which is comically random most of the time

Stone titans have 40 base damage which means 160 collapse damage at level one while wisps have 3.5 which means 14 collapse damage

[jaunty furnace]

collapsedisplay

[mellow crystal]

Jellyfish have 5, mithrix has 16 most of the time but 3 in phase 4, scavengers have 4, wipwip specifically and none of the other twisted scavs have 2.5, wandering vagrant has 6.5

Really collapse is just a fucking dice roll when enemies apply it because of how arbitrary the damage stat is on them 😭

[undone plover]

Is there some strategy for getting the Rolling Thunder Commando achievement except for dumb luck?

[hoary sedge]

just loop until you find a worm

they're not too uncommon on deep loops

also hit mountain shrines

[jaunty furnace]

you could do both 20 stage achievements on that run (kill overworm as mando, beat 20 stages, beat 20 stages as mando without lunars)

[west oak]

Does stacking the beads of fealty give you more lunar coins when you kill the scavenger?

[livid wedge]

No

[west oak]

Ty :p

[lavish jacinth]

If you've watched a lot of guides then you probably already know, but one of the most important things is always full-clearing stages as much as you can and not rushing (Hopefully you weren't watching outdated guides telling you to only do 5 minutes per stage, lol)

Otherwise, building characters isn't overly complicated, and ideally you always want a mix of different things rather than only focusing on "optimal" items, since items tend to multiply each other's effects while only stacking additively. As a general rule, item priority is always damage > speed/mobility > healing/defense, and pretty much any item that multiplies damage in some way will be good on any survivor (either directly like delicate watch, or with total damage procs like AtG).
Proc-focused survivors do tend to favor random on-hit procs, while slow, heavy hitters prefer reliable multipliers like crowbar, watches or bands, but that's a pretty loose rule- taking an AtG on Loader is still really good for example, or bands on Commando.

[wintry fjord]

Stacking is useless

[lavish jacinth]

Overall you don't have to worry too much about getting the "right" build for a character, items are mostly designed with randomness in mind and you can almost always cobble together a working build with whatever random junk the game gives you. Even if you can't, runs are never unwinnable, you can always power through terrible luck with enough raw skill.
imo it's more important to just understand HOW items work and interact, and knowing which ones to pick will come naturally with knowledge and experience

If you do want a quick "always scrap/avoid" list though

(even some of those have useful edge cases, like Steak, Knurl and Stoneflux being decent on False Son, or Aegis being usable on bungus Engie)

[harsh ingot]

yo you can get more then 1 legendary chest on some maps??? i didnt know that

[mellow crystal]

Leg chests can spawn randomly stage 4+ yeah

[harsh ingot]

I see thanks

[wintry fjord]

It's pretty rare

[harsh ingot]

can you see how many stacks of desperados you have on you?

[mellow crystal]

It's the skull buff in the bottom left yeah

[harsh ingot]

ahhh thanks

[silent shoal]

I know the answer is probably that “I suck and need to get good” but are there any specific tips for fighting against mithrix/what I should’ve done here?

[mellow crystal]

Try to punish him with dashes or evis after each attack, not between attacks

Evis especially since it leaves you vulnerable for a bit after it ends

Abuse your double jump more, double jumping over him is an easy way to force him to do an attack while you're above him

[silent shoal]

Yeah that figures

Thanks though

Any comments on item choice?

(Like, which items in my lineup should I have rerolled with printer)

Easier to see here

[harsh ingot]

do the desperados stacks get reset for every new stage?

[wintry fjord]

Yes

[harsh ingot]

bruh i spent like 20 mins farming them on stage 1 HAHAHAHA

[wintry fjord]

Lol

[harsh ingot]

I thought i was so smart

[wintry fjord]

That'd be really broken

[harsh ingot]

yeah hahahaha

whats the best loadout to run on bandit?

[wintry fjord]

All normal other than desperado but that's just me

[harsh ingot]

thanks

[mellow crystal]

Bison steaks, guillotine, leeching seed, bungus, and stealthkit are the obvious picks
RAP and monster tooth are pretty scrappable right before mithrix
Stun grenade is pretty useless on blinding assault Merc

I'd scrap pred instincts and warhorn once you learn to start using expose tech but for now it's fine

[silent shoal]

Does merc just not need healing at all? Should I just not be getting hit that often to need them?

Or is it certain things like monster tooth and bungus that are keeps

[mellow crystal]

I'm moreso mentioning the healing items since leeching seed is horrible and monster tooth should be gotten rid of stage 5 if you can since you can't use it during the mith bossfight

Bungus works if you don't have anything better tho

[silent shoal]

Fair enough, I just couldn’t find the scrapper on stage 5 and I’d already done a cursory sweep of the entire stage

Would it be worth it to burn 5-10 minutes just to find the scrapper?

(All runs, not just this one)

[mellow crystal]

Most likely not since it isn't guaranteed at all

If I feel like I need to find one I'd probably just do one quick sweep of the areas I think I missed

[main marten]

How do people get 2 or 3 items from those chests where you can pick an item?

[wintry fjord]

Sale star

[main marten]

Okay ty

[jaunty furnace]

if you got a scrapper on stage 5 i wouldve scrapped (if youre taking recycler to moon, but if you had i would keep it for lysate potential)

idk if thats the question you were asking but theres that anyway

[jaunty furnace]

time does not really matter

[silent shoal]

Yeah that’s good, thank you!

[jaunty furnace]

a good build far, far outweighs the scaling enemies get

[lavish jacinth]

I've got some general mithrix tips in the pins, for this situation specifically, you probably had time to dash and avoid the attack with iframes

[lavish jacinth]

time does matter, it's just that items are priority

[jaunty furnace]

here you were just kinda standing still in front of his hammer lol

you mightve been able to dodge if you spammed util

[lavish jacinth]

spending 10 minutes running in circles just looking for a scrapper probably is not worth it, considering there's no guarantee you'll actually find a good use for it

but you should be keeping an eye out for them as you're looting the stage

[jaunty furnace]

but the right play wouldve been to use the special at a better time

[silent shoal]

Figures yeah

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, with eviscerate you wanna use your other skills first, and save evis for when you need some iframes or to stall for your other cooldowns

[left forge]

Also, reds you can freely scrap are and
Healing from shit like and are already good since the core thing you should be getting good at is dodging.
Less items into healing = more items into damage, mobility, really good DR sources like or /

is also free red scrap if you don't plan making a missile related build, alongside if you go for a build that does not care about proccing chance based items

[lavish jacinth]

you don't really need a missile "build" to make ICBM worth it, having even 1 atg is enough to justify keeping it

but yeah it's scrap if you've got no way to use it obviously

[lavish jacinth]

if you mean multishops then it would be , not sale star

[wintry crag]

whats an easy way to unlock "Gesture of the Drowned" ?

[lavish jacinth]

Artifact of swarms, loop to stage 6 titanic plains and chase crabs off the cliff, avoid auto-damage items like tesla coil that might kill them accidentally

railgunners' mines, rex's default utility or help to push them around without dealing damage, but they're not required since crabs run away from you if you get close

[wintry crag]

now the thing is how do i do that while avoiding the mass amount of enemies killing me

[wintry crag]

so no ukelele either ?

[lavish jacinth]

I wouldn't recommend it, if you do take it just be really careful about attacking stuff near crabs

[lavish jacinth]

Eh, its not that bad. You can put it on drizzle, the spawnrates will be lower so it might take longer but it'll be easier

[wintry crag]

so what damage items should i run to be safe ?

[lavish jacinth]

Most of them should be fine, just avoid big AoE items or things that deal damage passively

[dim sky]

is there a setting to make pings last longer?

[jaunty furnace]

theres a mod called permapings

[lavish jacinth]

In vanilla there's one that permanently reveals the teleporter if you ping it but that's it

Under that umbrella settings thing

[dim sky]

oh, do they disable achievements?

[jaunty furnace]

no

[dim sky]

ty

[jaunty furnace]

i have only seen one mod ever that says it doesnt mess with steam achievements

so 99% of the time its safe to assume that it doesnt disable them

[harsh ingot]

Yo what is the best loadout for loaderr, also how the hell do i unlock his alt special and alt secondary

[jaunty furnace]

her bad loadout is less bad and more just uncomfortable

alt shift is less powerful and makes you bounce back instead of piercing though the enemy back to safety, and pylons offer more aoe and mobility

the m2's are your choice

[harsh ingot]

i see thanks

kinda didnt understand how to unlock herr alt r

[jaunty furnace]

whats the unlock again

is it the "defeat your clone" thing

stage 5 has a big hidden teleporter with a computer, insert a valid code (in this case, the vengeance one) and activate the computer to open a portal

[harsh ingot]

offff alright need to do some googling then

[wintry crag]

How come when i use Artifact of Command and get a void item, it only shows five items?

The items were safer spaces and four others

[tender temple]

Cause void items are tiered

There's white voids, green voids and red voids

They are all separate pools and command gives you the options from the pool of the item you were supposed to get

[native linden]

So Ive tried to ask on reddit ect but n'kuhana is not spawning I don't have the item and I'm on the latest version I've restarted my game and Xbox 3 times plus I'm at a loss for what to do

[sharp sundial]

wdym by spawn, like the skeleton isnt there?

[native linden]

It's not there at all

[sharp sundial]

huh—maybe a multiplayer thing?

[native linden]

Don't know but I'll try it when I get home

[bitter juniper]

to get mastery skins is it generally easier to obliterate?

[wintry crag]

Does ICBM work with Fireworks ?

[lavish jacinth]

yes

[kindred dragon]

is there's secret tunnel in wetland acpect that gives you a achievement?

hello?

[livid wedge]

Yes

The nkhuna one

[kindred dragon]

cant find in logbook

[kindred dragon]

oh nevermind i just forgot i did this like 4 years ago

[livid wedge]

Ye, unlocks this
|| https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/N'kuhana's_Opinion ||

[kindred dragon]

i already did 4 years ago, thank you for letting me remember this i guess

[last field]

fireworks, atg and plasma shrimp, missile launcher, and engi's harpoons (for some reason)

[lavish jacinth]

why wouldn't harpoons work, they function like any other missile

[livid wedge]

It does say from items and equipment in the logbook

Not abilities

[lavish jacinth]

oh, I guess it does

still seems reasonable that they'd work though imo

[livid wedge]

True

Just a little misleading

[last field]

yeah what this guy said

[livid wedge]

Girl

[last field]

mb

and you can also put the argument that war bonds should work since it has missiles (but that doesnt work because balancing but gearbox and balancing should not be in the same sentence)

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, I'd argue that war bonds shouldn't work because it doesn't behave like the other missiles that ICBM affects

[last field]

eh harpoons arent missiles but they act like them, war bonds have missiles but they dont act like them fully

[lavish jacinth]

I mean if war bonds counts as a missile then captain's orbital probes should also count as a missile, they work basically the same way

the actual behavior seems to be what defines a missile, not the word the game uses for it

[last field]

the overall thing that should be noted is that icbm just isnt specific

[lavish jacinth]

either way it's hopoo's fault for ICBM being a terribly designed item

[chrome mist]

what happens if noxious thorn procs with mired urn's status. doe you get the health drain from a longer range?

[lavish jacinth]

no, it just sends the tar debuff to another enemy

the debuff isn't what heals you, it's the direct damage from urn itself. Tar just slows enemies

[twin raven]

is htere a name kind of helmet this skin wears

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think so, it's kinda just a generic sci-fi helmet

[twin raven]

ok another thing on the make directly list

[lavish jacinth]

if you're trying to find something similar-looking, the closest thing that comes to mind is the EVA helmet from Halo

there are probably other similar examples but I can't think of any off the top of my head

[twin raven]

ok thanks i should be able to color that and make it work

ok if anyone could get me the model for the back pack in this skin in a stl form that would be great

[lavish jacinth]

the modding discord might actually be the best place to ask about that, there's a link to it pinned in #ror2-modding .
Although if you already have the model in another format then it's really easy to convert it to stl in blender or whatever

[silent shoal]

Well, I’m mad about this one, but I would like some feedback

Other than “don’t suck at spinny” of course cause yeah I see that

So probably just some item choice nitpicks

[lavish jacinth]

honestly your items are kinda fine, there are some things that could've been scrapped but it's a perfectly winnable run just based on the items.

Although, did you skip the stage 4 red?

[silent shoal]

Looked for it but couldn’t find it, don’t have the locations memorized and didn’t think burning more time wouldve been a good time trade but probably should’ve

[jaunty furnace]

you have less movement control midair

[junior jungle]

Steal MY pfp take MY role CALL ME A BLUE ITEM USER!

[lavish jacinth]

the locations on sundered grove are on the wiki, and there'll always be glowing pink mushrooms near it to help you find it

[silent shoal]

Would that be a skill thing or an item thing?

[silent shoal]

Figures yeah. Just didnt come to mind in heat of the run

[jaunty furnace]

you jumped and died because you couldnt move away from pizza in time

[silent shoal]

Ok so yeah move away from pizza then.

[jaunty furnace]

nope

[lavish jacinth]

eh, they probably could've avoided that even in the air

[silent shoal]

So I should’ve stayed that close to pizza?

[jaunty furnace]

unless you mean dodge better in which case yes

[lavish jacinth]

it looks more like you hesitated and didn't move when you should have

[jaunty furnace]

but staying far away from mithrix during pizza is like selling your soul to rng

[silent shoal]

Well yeah that makes sense but I’m saying maybe I should’ve been like maybe a couple steps further, maybe on the lower pillar so like the pizza had bigger slices so to speak

Not as big as to gamble but big enough to have more breathing room probably

Eh idk if I didn’t die there I’d probably be on the victory screen by now cause mithrix 4 wouldve been cooked by my item

[jaunty furnace]

just noticed you were using blast

[livid wedge]

[lavish jacinth]

I feel like being on top of the pillars in the first place made it a little more awkward to dodge the lines, but maybe that's just me

[silent shoal]

Is blast worse than shotgun?

[lavish jacinth]

they're both fine

[jaunty furnace]

yeah

[silent shoal]

No you’re completely right I should’ve been on a ramp

[lavish jacinth]

personally I prefer to dodge spinny out in the open where I have plenty of room to move

[silent shoal]

Is it just because more hits means more chances to proc or is it some hidden stuff

[lavish jacinth]

shotgun has higher raw damage, rifle has infinite range and better proc potential per shot

[jaunty furnace]

more damage and more procs

[lavish jacinth]

the proc dps of rifle is actually a bit better

[silent shoal]

Wish I could practice mithrix more but getting to him even on drizzle takes enough time that I could get another monsoon run going instead

[lavish jacinth]

and both primaries are totally fine to use, they're kinda just different playstyles. Rifle is good if you like staying at a distance

[jaunty furnace]

wdym

[silent shoal]

Anyways thank y’all especially you @lavish jacinth for yesterday as well, I’m probably gonna be a common sight here for the next week or two maybe more trying to beat monsoon

[lavish jacinth]

I forget the exact numbers but when you take proc coeff and the damage per hit into account, the rifle does actually get a bit more damage out of total damage procs

[silent shoal]

I’m forcing myself to actually beat monsoon before I commit to buying seekers

[lavish jacinth]

np, and good luck

[silent shoal]

Gotta make sure I’m not gonna pick up seekers play one run and dump ror2 again

(Even though seekers would probably make monsoon a little easier but shhhh)

[junior jungle]

[silent shoal]

Also, for tomorrow’s run, since I’m probably going to be shooting for monsoon on bandit from here on out: recommended items? Like which damage items, which void items should I take/avoid, etc

Also, should I take bands if I’m running lights out? It seems to be stealing the kills for the ability regen but it could just be me

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the damage is worth occasionally losing some cooldown resets

LO resetting cooldowns honestly isn't that strong anyway

[lavish jacinth]

I'd say the kinds of items you were taking here are all pretty good, the 5 monster teeth are a little weird but if you needed the healing then it works

some drones might've helped too

[silent shoal]

1 on stage one, then got the rest on stage 4/5 and couldn’t find a scrapper lol

[lavish jacinth]

ah lol

[silent shoal]

I wouldve scrapped them after tele 5 but game said no lol

[silent shoal]

Also the drones all died… I really couldn’t tell you how though

Had 1 missile 1 incin 1 equipment with and like 1 healing

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, there are some junk items in there, but it doesn't look like you made any horrible decisions or anything. Unless you like, passed up an atg for that second stack of death mark or something lol

[silent shoal]

Alright nice

[lavish jacinth]

grandparent?

[silent shoal]

Nah they died in mithrix phase 3

I was kiting him around the arena and just realized they were gone

Probably a few minutes before the run ended

[lavish jacinth]

ah

probably got spinny'd or ran into flame pillars or something

[silent shoal]

I’m putting my bets on spinny’d yeah

[jaunty furnace]

bandit already has low cooldowns

he doesnt need the cooldown resets

[trim lynx]

i mean

reloading your primary is really nice

and being able to stack hemorrhage + fly is also nice

[wintry crag]

Would crossplatform ever be considered ?

[trim lynx]

sadly very very unlikely

[pallid mirage]

Does the description "And his music was electric mean anything"

[tender temple]

It means that it's a musical instrument and it's related to electricity

[livid wedge]

Electrifying as a metaphor can mean to liven a person or group up but in this case it is taken literally

A bit of a joke description

[pallid mirage]

Okay I just thought there was a deeper meaning or something

[primal stag]

Guys how can I unlock abilitys for my characters?

[glacial knoll]

hover over the locked ones and it will tell you, they are all unique conditions

[hoary sedge]

ive always kinda interpreted it as a tribute to the games composer but idk if that's ever actually been confirmed

[pallid mirage]

THIS RIGHT HERE

[timber rapids]

if you get sequenced as heretic, do you stop being heretic?

[vague hedge]

if you lose heretic items as heretic, the respective skill slot becomes a useless ability that does nothing
so i assume the same thing would happen w shrine of order

as per wiki.gg

which is to say no you dont stop becoming heretic
once you bird up you stay birded up

[feral zinc]

What’s the best chef loadout?

[lavish jacinth]

anything works, Yes Chef is a lot better than Glaze but otherwise his skills are all good enough that it's mostly up to preference I think

[silent shoal]

Not so much a run question (obviously I set myself up to win) but a bandit question: is desperado better than lights out or nah, or is it just kinda a preference thing

I saw people debating it yesterday and I just want input

[mellow crystal]

Desperado falls off much slower than lights out

They both lose efficiency as you get further into the run but desperado lasts much longer

[silent shoal]

Also, just to clarify, missing a desperado doesn’t reset stacks right?

[mellow crystal]

Nop

Stacks stay with you until you enter the next stage

[silent shoal]

Very nice

[mellow crystal]

Or until you die and get revived since it's counted as a buff

[silent shoal]

Cool thank you, will be back tomorrow then

[kindred herald]

Desperado is better

[cobalt coyote]

im new to risk of rain 2, how many items would you recommend getting in every area

[jaunty furnace]

all of them

do not worry too much about time

items are far more important than time

[cobalt coyote]

alr

thanks

[jaunty furnace]

use scrappers, printers, cauldrons and some of the equipment items () to manage your build

[left forge]

Desperado is just better. CD reset is not needed on a character with already fast cds

[left forge]

Also a good reason to open equipment barrels first just in case you get a stage 1 or

[zenith meteor]

lights out would be such a banger ability if it wasn't on bandit LMAO. one of my fav skillswap runs was getting it with ice spear and ice wall

[jaunty furnace]

good ability, wrong character

[zenith meteor]

real

[left forge]

Truth nuke

[zenith meteor]

double oof because it's competing with desperado

[mellow crystal]

To be fair it does still feel insanely satisfying on bandit, it's just really annoying to make it work in later stages

[zenith meteor]

I don't even think it's that satisfying on bandit

like ohh wow I can reset my shift (3 seconds of downtime btw)

insanity

[mellow crystal]

Instead of actually killing stuff in later stages you have to leave them awkwardly on 1hp just so you can lights out chain

[left forge]

Potential ability

[jaunty furnace]

why would i reset my ridiculously low cooldown abilities when i can buff my gun

[zenith meteor]

infinitely

[jaunty furnace]

it is kinda hard to stack desperado later but its still better than lights out

[left forge]

Give me liberty
Give me fire
Give me weak ass mobs
Or I retire

[mellow crystal]

It is pretty good on early stages since it effectively removes downtime with good aim
That's the issue tho, on early stages

And obv it's competing with desperado but like that's a given, I'm arguing for it being solid, not better or even equal

[jaunty furnace]

desperado is better on early stages too lol

stage 1 boss vs 130 desperado stacks

[mellow crystal]

I know but

Oh my god this is flamer all over again

[left forge]

Enemies weak as hell there too

[zenith meteor]

stage 1 abilities be so funny

[mellow crystal]

A skill can have a strength while still being significantly worse than its alt 😭

[left forge]

Oh wow, this ability is good in 1 out of 6 stages

[zenith meteor]

well yeah, I just don't really find that satisfying when the downtime is already so low personally

[mellow crystal]

Maybe I just love the sound design too much idk

[zenith meteor]

real

[left forge]

LO CD reset when it removes the already low CD of my abilities

[zenith meteor]

bandit's sound design do be 👌

[mellow crystal]

I still think it's a crime lights out has a much more satisfying kill sound than the 2 bajillion damage shot

[left forge]

Put the in the build bro

[jaunty furnace]

is it different than desperado

[trim lynx]

you can fly

[mellow crystal]

Lights out is like
High-pitched glass breaking
And desperado is like
Metallic glass breaking????
It's hard to describe

Hold on do I have a desperado clip

Desperado noise

[trim lynx]

also its easier to get enemies to low health using lights out, not that its always easy but it should be considered

because you get your primary refilled

[mellow crystal]

Ok it's not glass breaking it's like a metal ricochet without the satisfying sting of a ricochet sound

[jaunty furnace]

...or you can hit them with a buff ass revolver

[trim lynx]

ok?

[jaunty furnace]

unless you mean multiple lower health enemies?

[mellow crystal]

Lights out buff where each kill gives you a hyperbolic bleed-stacking -15% cooldown buff for a few seconds or something idk

[jaunty furnace]

in which case sure i guess? but you dont gain anything

[zenith meteor]

meh

[trim lynx]

you can more consistently get lights out refreshes

[mellow crystal]

Unrelated but I feel like we need a community name for bleed stacking
Like "refresh stacking" or smth gets the point across much easier

[trim lynx]

generally lights out refreshes stay easy to chain for a fair few stages

its not just useful on stage 1

[tender temple]

How about bleed stacking

[livid wedge]

Yeah

[mellow crystal]

Bleed stacking just makes me want to explain how bleed stacks every time I say it since there's a surprising number of people that don't know the different stacking types
Which makes the naming convention redundant

[tender temple]

The issue is you hardly ever stack anything else

[inland tide]

Can I play with switch 2 gamer ?

[jaunty furnace]

nop

theres no crossplay other than steam-epic

[inland tide]

Ohh sad

[jaunty furnace]

i wonder if switch 1-switch 2 is possible though

[high forum]

it should be, they're the same version of the game iirc

it's just the switch 1 version on the switch 2

[peak holly]

Cross gen is a thing anyway

[rain verge]

Anyone think that crossplay would ever come? Do they have plans for it?

[peak holly]

Not specifically for the switch though since it’s still the exact same game but in essence yeah

[peak holly]

I don’t think there will ever be crossplay. They don’t have any plans for crossplay.

Good bit of work for not much reward

[rain verge]

Looks like i'd have to get a steam deck

[hushed raven]

Steam deck can run ror2 p well
Late game it'll start shitting itself but so do most other things that run it

[wet jasper]

do the looped level variants have their own logbooks? like is it a physical item or do i need a scanner to spawn?

[last field]

its the same as its normal variant (you need a radio scanner)

[wet jasper]

damn that sucks, thanks! couldnt find any info anywhere

[hushed raven]

keep in mind
disturbed impact is bugged so you can't get that stage's log without cheats
also treeborn colony/golden dieback are bugged in a way that if you get one of their logs you can't get the other without cheats

[hoary sedge]

isn't the impact log bug also tied to another stage

[wet jasper]

how do i do that?

[hushed raven]

it's something like that

[hushed raven]

you'd wanna go to #ror2-modding to figure it out

unless you're not on pc which then rip

[wet jasper]

so nothing on vanilla?

[lavish jacinth]

realercheatunlocks is the mod you'd want

but yeah, in vanilla you just have to wait for a patch

[wet jasper]

So theres not even a console command great

Guess I'll have to wait or mod it

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, doing it with mods is easy enough

go to thunderstore.io, install r2modman and get realercheatunlocks through it, then just run it and right click the logs you want

[kindred dragon]

is enemy in void field item effect get stronger when i enable artifact of evolution?

[hoary sedge]

the enemies get both item pools

[quasi crystal]

i unlocked the artifcact of command but some items are locked, how do i unlock the other items?

[compact coral]

challenges

[signal pelican]

Unlock the items themselves

[lavish jacinth]

beatinc challenges, same way you'd unlock other stuff. if you hover over a locked item in the logbook it'll tell you what you have to do

[signal pelican]

RoR2 Command isn't like RoR1 Command

[quasi crystal]

thank you so much

[lavish jacinth]

or they could be dlc items if you don't have the dlcs

[quasi crystal]

im missing both dlcs yes

[lavish jacinth]

ah

[compact coral]

dlc items dont shoe up

unless muliplayer

[lavish jacinth]

they show up as locked if you don't own the dlc

[compact coral]

never experienced that

[lavish jacinth]

if it was multiplayer then they wouldn't be locked at all, assuming someone else in the lobby had the dlc

[quasi crystal]

i think those are the only items i have locked, does playing multiplayer with people unlock items

[compact coral]

yes

[lavish jacinth]

unlocks are shared in multiplayer yeah

[compact coral]

if u do the challenges

[quasi crystal]

ah then that makes sense im missing dlc then

are the dlc worth it?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, they're both good

[signal pelican]

If someone in the lobby owns the dlc anyone can get the dlc items if the dlc is activated

[compact coral]

just check ur log book for challenges

[compact coral]

no'

they can use em

[quasi crystal]

ah thats fair but i mostly have no one to play this with unless i go to a random lobby lol

[signal pelican]

That's the same thing no?

[compact coral]

thought u mean unlocking it mb

[quasi crystal]

im gonna wait for a sale to get them, thanks guys

[west oak]

What is the difference between collapse and bleed? I'm trying to figure out if needletick or tri-tip dagger is better

[livid wedge]

I know there's a graph somewhere

[lavish jacinth]

collapse does a fixed amount of damage per stack, while bleed's duration refreshes each time a new stack is applied, giving it more damage

essentially collapse does more damage up front while bleed stacks better

[livid wedge]

But the jist is collapse is better for fewer stacks at a time but bleed eventually wins out later

[lavish jacinth]

it's kinda situational which one is better

[livid wedge]

Thankies

[lavish jacinth]

collapse does really well in situations where you're getting a lot of low-damage procs but aren't following up on them consistently, like with acrid

bleed is better if you can consistently focus procs on one a single target for a long time

[west oak]

This community is to nice dude

Tysm :D

[lavish jacinth]

np

[wary mica]

how do you win commando monsoon runs if you don't get lucky? i literally never get any crit items, bleed items, or generally anything proc when I play commando and it feels like im shooting nerf darts

got 1 single lensmakers and everything else is like 4 stacks of armor or 4 stacks of brooches

SOMEHOW i managed to make it to stage 3 mithrix but that legit took like 15 minutes of fighting to do

[amber swan]

pick up 2 purities and gain the ability to fly

[wary mica]

im trying to stay away from lunar items because i feel like they're too cheap but i might have to if I cant even finish an eclipse 1 run with commando

it feels like cheating almost

[lavish jacinth]

you kinda just have to get good at dodging for a long time and wear enemies down

but your items there aren't THAT bad either

[amber swan]

idk dude, there was a lunar pod on sky meadow, there was a purity, I had 0 proc items, its fair game 👍

[wary mica]

i died dodging spinner wheel because there were a thousand projectiles from chimeras bombarding me

[lavish jacinth]

the amount of items there also seems pretty low for 70 minutes

unless it just isn't showing stacks because run history is stupid

[amber swan]

you can spam slide with purity to outrun the lunar enemies and ignore them.

the mithrix fight took like 25 minutes but its good.

[wary mica]

i got through most of mithrix fight without being hit but the chimera just kept building up and nothing I could do killed them

[amber swan]

purity fire

[wary mica]

ah yeah it doesnt show stacks, I had a ton of stacks of useless white items

[mellow crystal]

Purity mando when they have tenta, atg, sticky, and crit sounds like a very bad idea

[lavish jacinth]

run history being barely functional as ever lmao

[wary mica]

i had 1 tentobauble, 4 armors, 4 brooches, 3 pennies, etc.

[amber swan]

you can still win like I did trust me

[wary mica]

all the items that actually matter i had 1 or 2 max of

[mellow crystal]

You can always win in ror2, doesn't mean itemless is a good idea for the average run

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the brooches and pennies would've been worth scrapping, although repulsion plates might've at least slightly helped against wisp chimeras, I guess

[wary mica]

i could have scrapped them if there was literally anything to spend on

i counted 5 opal printers

3 penny printers

[amber swan]

you can always win in ror2 until you fall through the map while exitting the droppod and getting sniped by a golem

[wary mica]

no crits, no tri-tips, not even focus crystal and thats not even good for commando

i gotta start recording my runs so i can show just how abysmal my luck is

[mellow crystal]

Not scrapping unless there's an immediately usable printer on the same stage is generally just a bad idea as well

[amber swan]

focus crystal goes hard with phase blast tho

[lavish jacinth]

you always get cauldrons on commencement, and if the item is useless you might as well scrap it and gamble on getting something good later

[wary mica]

i had like 9 white scrap by the end btw

[lavish jacinth]

also there are good items besides crit and tritip lol

[jaunty furnace]

just because theres no good printers on the current stage doesn't mean you shouldnt scrap for potential use later

[wary mica]

yes im just giving examples

[mellow crystal]

Yeah mando kinda just works with anything except bands and even then he can use bands if he runs grenade or gets a good proc chain going

[wary mica]

again, i was scrapping as I went and forgot to scrap the pennies (and bison) but other than that I was stacking up white scrap and praying for anything good

[lavish jacinth]

fair, I have seen a few players unironically think that crit is like the only good item in the game so I gotta make sure lmao

[wary mica]

commencement gave me dio's, hammer, mask, bottle, and backup mags for my cauldrons

there was one other white item but I dont remember what it was

[jaunty furnace]

...why didnt you use your red scrap

backup mags couldve actually been neat

[lavish jacinth]

trading your red scrap for backup mags would've been decent

and you have luminous shot

[amber swan]

trading red scrap for anything is good 💔

on moon cauldren

[lavish jacinth]

I mean yeah, you might as well

[wary mica]

i traded 1 of the 2 of them and went to go look at the other cauldrons

[lavish jacinth]

it's always better to get a mid item than to have scrap that does literally nothing

[wary mica]

then didnt come back because i was getting shit on by chimera

fair enough but it really wouldnt have helped all that much in the long run

i was still doing like 60 damage a shot on mithrix with zero attack speed bonuses

[jaunty furnace]

what loadout were you using btw

[wary mica]

grenade, slide, and the 2nd secondary idk what its called

[mellow crystal]

Phaseter blaster

[jaunty furnace]

nice

[wary mica]

that probably

i just keep getting such terrible rounds

where i go into stage 5 with like 15 white scrap and get jack shit for printers

the only thing i can do at this point is just keep trying over and over until I finally complete it but this just isnt fun

[lavish jacinth]

anyway, the way I usually handle situations like this is to camp near the ramps as much as I can and then try to lure him out into the center when he's about to do big spinny, that way all of the adds will hopefully stay near the ramps long enough for me to deal with spinny. Helps a bit if I have drones to keep the chimeras busy, too.

Not 100% reliable but if you can't deal with the adds at all, then the least you can do is try to get away from them

[jaunty furnace]

i have not used ramps in soooo long

[amber swan]

no apr rounds, delicate watches? mocha? stickies? no nothin?

[wary mica]

literally nothing its actually sad

i got so many printers that give shit i would scrap

[jaunty furnace]

were you also checking bazaar

[amber swan]

ya couldve used opal printer for like 3.

thats about it.
ya usually dont want more opals then 3

[wary mica]

i did lol

[amber swan]

damn

[wary mica]

i got exactly 3

i dont like using lunar items because it feels like cheating to me but im probably going to have to

or else im going to go insane or just quit

[lavish jacinth]

you don't have to use lunars, you can go to the bazaar and check the cauldrons there

[jaunty furnace]

you do

opals are great

[wary mica]

damn totally forgot about the cauldrons there

[amber swan]

what ya want me to get 5 for jade elephant armor stat

theres not alot of benefit going beyond 3

[jaunty furnace]

it pretty much turns into an extra safer spaces with enough stacks

[amber swan]

yeah 3 also does that

[lavish jacinth]

opal stacking isn't horrible but it's definitely not a high priority item to print

[jaunty furnace]

and more than 3 helps even more

[lavish jacinth]

3 is kinda where I'd stop too

[wary mica]

yeah i only got 3 to try and save scrap praying I would get good printers later

[jaunty furnace]

yeah i wouldnt print it over damage items but opal stacking does not suck

[wary mica]

well im going to bed i guess ill try checking bazaar and staying near ramps when i play tomorrow

i really am getting sick of having rng being the determining factor on whether or not my run is going to be good

[amber swan]

small issue sir

[wary mica]

i literally only got 1 void cradle my entire 5 stages

[jaunty furnace]

bazaar has cauldrons, stage selectors, and vields

[amber swan]

5% less damage

[lavish jacinth]

oh also, if you don't usually buy drones, you should try getting some

having them draw aggro is super helpful

[wary mica]

i usually do but i was lowkey slacking this run and didnt run around looking for them

i should have

[lavish jacinth]

they're worth having
equipment drones especially can soft-carry a run with the right item

[wary mica]

idk i was also kind of stressed about time because i was taking so long to kill things

[zealous mortar]

keep trying bro, you got that fr

[wary mica]

i mean eventually i have to get a good run

like my loader run had insane rng and I got focus crystal printers twice

[lavish jacinth]

you don't have to stress about time that much, as long as you're consistently getting items it's generally fine

as long as your time is spent on something that'll make you stronger, it's usually worth

that also includes item macro stuff like hunting for scrappers or trying to pull a recycler from equipment barrels to reroll shitty red or whatever

[lavish jacinth]

just keep at it, the more you practice the more consistent you'll get

[silent shoal]

Well hey I did it (I’ll get to the question in a second)

I won, but I was wondering about vs

[lavish jacinth]

card is 1000% better

[silent shoal]

Even considering stuff like stage 5 where radar might end up being better than card if you roll low multishops?

[lavish jacinth]

radar is nice if you have a hard time finding stuff, but you get better at that with experience, and it doesn't directly help in any way

[amber swan]

Eh, I'd pick recycler and try to reroll one of the things into a

[jaunty furnace]

yeah i hope you opened that question mark

[silent shoal]

I think I did and it was like a backup or smth

[jaunty furnace]

alright

[lavish jacinth]

also think of it this way
getting a few extra items from card is at least as good as radar helping you find a few extra items that you missed

[silent shoal]

Honestly, that sounds good too if I got a recycler

[lavish jacinth]

but card also has potential to give you extra items that you never would've gotten otherwise

[silent shoal]

That’s very true

[jaunty furnace]

also youve been playing alot of bandit
i think you should try to have some variety

[lavish jacinth]

I was gonna say you could've looked for an equipment drone and given it the radar, but backup would've been better on it lol

[silent shoal]

Yeah I ran all my runs last week a different survivor just to try to get back into the swing of things, I’ll probably be trying to get mastery for the rest after this

Based on last weeks runs maybe like commando or huntress if I’m feeling risky (but I need to get ballista first)

The runs in question btw

Also, as customary, any tips on item choice? (Other than the white scrap cause the only green pool was for lol)

I did get a scrapper on stage 5 so the advice wouldve been applicable too

[lavish jacinth]

I'm guessing the huntress and mul-t runs died in phase 4? they both have a pretty low amount of items

mainly mul-t but the item list for huntress also looks pretty short

man I love how this stat is almost useless lmao

[silent shoal]

Yeah spot on

[silent shoal]

For the victory run though any notes?

[lavish jacinth]

honestly pretty solid, I'm guessing you had a lot of green scrap for those dios lol

[jaunty furnace]

more can be learned from mistakes

[silent shoal]

Had 14 yeah, for some reason game gave me like 3-4 ignition tanks with no gasoline, other than that a lot of “on kill” effects scrapped

[lavish jacinth]

actually one small note, AtG is better than shrimp if you have clover

[silent shoal]

Makes sense

[jaunty furnace]

2 void keys........... you opened as many as you could right

[silent shoal]

I don’t even remember at this point that was like a week ago

I probably should’ve though

[silent shoal]

Does 1 atg do more than 2 shrimp though? Genuinely wondering

(With clover)

[lavish jacinth]

by itself not quite, but I think it does when you account for atg being way better at setting off proc chains

if you want the numbers, atg is x300% damage 10% of the time, so +30% dps on average.
shrimp is +40% dps as long as you can keep shield up

clover roughly doubles the effectiveness of atg, so atg+clover is +~58% dps iirc, and atg has a 1.0 proc coeff compared to shrimp's 0.2

the matchup between atg and shrimp is complicated as fuck and can kinda go back and forth all day, but it's kind of a general rule that atg is nearly always better if you have a clover

[silent shoal]

Very cool, thanks!

[jaunty furnace]

and helps both

well, it helps everything

if you have a choice between and , i would usually pick polylute

but if you have , definitely pick plasma over poly

[wintry crag]

how come

[jaunty furnace]

probably extremely difficult

and i dont think they want to do another code rewrite lol

or whatever it was

[lavish jacinth]

Crossplay is more plausible now than it was before the rebuild at least, but it's still pretty unlikely

Devs have never said anything about it afaik and they've had other priorities

[tender temple]

Genuinely surprised by the amount of people wanting crossplay when it's the devilspawn of super hitler

[lavish jacinth]

If it's gonna be as bad as steam/epic crossplay then yeah, we're better off without it lol

[wintry crag]

man i feel like in 2025 all multiplayer games should have at least cross play

i got friends on xbox that im just tryna play with

[trim lynx]

crossplay is awesome

[wet jasper]

is the sky meadow logbook bugged as well?

i just looped like 8 times with 152 clovers and got nothing

[jaunty furnace]

...do clovers affect it?

[wet jasper]

i think so?

i genuinely do not know

i also had command and sacrifice on though

[jaunty furnace]

its a stage interactable,,, i dont see why clover would affect it

clover only affects things like items and rare drops like elite aspects/monster logbooks

[wet jasper]

i thought maybe because its technically a logbook it would?

actually no it wouldn't

not a proc based item

[livid wedge]

Clovers don't affect radar logbooks

But skymeadow is not bugged

[wet jasper]

So I'm just very unlucky lol

Fair enough

[sour ember]

Hi fellas i beat mithrix a couple times and i have no idea how to progress into alt endings / pathways if there is any (i have both dlcs) anyone got any clues to tip me in on to do stuff that may not involve just b lining for mithrix and getting the standard ending

[jaunty furnace]

for sotv you can either complete the void fields fully to spawn the second portal, or loop until you get a random void portal
for sots you just follow the green portals

[sour ember]

TY

[zenith meteor]

Owning an Xbox in 2025 is crazy

[fierce bluff]

Ik that's a dumb question, but have there been any insides on alloyed collective having regional prices or not?

[lavish jacinth]

devs haven't said anything about it publicly but it's probably a safe bet that it'll be the same as the other dlcs

if anyone has inside info then they're probably not allowed to talk about it lol

[stuck parrot]

Hey so I just got the game and have like 25 hours now but I just logged in today and suddenly unlocked every skin and ability

Does anyone know what happened

[lavish jacinth]

huh, you unlocked everything?

[stuck parrot]

Ya

[lavish jacinth]

that's new

[stuck parrot]

Ill dm it to you

[lavish jacinth]

there's a bug with progress randomly being lost but I haven't heard of anyone randomly getting everything

[lavish jacinth]

no need, you can make a #1172187541349347429 about it if you want tho. If you wanna post images here you'll need a role, #roles

[stuck parrot]

Here it is

[lavish jacinth]

if you're on pc it should be easy to reset your progress with the realercheatunlocks mod (if you want)

[stuck parrot]

Ok awesome

I would like to actually unlock the abilities

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, realercheatunlocks lets you re-lock stuff

do you know how to install mods?

[stuck parrot]

Thunder store right

[lavish jacinth]

yep, download and install r2modman, then just find mods you want and install with mod manager

[stuck parrot]

Ok thx

[fierce bluff]

I'm just scared that it'll be the same as sots on release and cost 4x the game's price

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, that was a mistake that got fixed, wasn't it?

[fierce bluff]

Yeah

After a week or so

Can't buy a dlc for a week if you don't have a bunch of spare money

[lavish jacinth]

well, I can't imagine they'd want a repeat of the sots incident, so they'll hopefully make sure to do it correctly this time

[fierce bluff]

Fingers crossed

[last field]

yeah unfortunately it doesnt re-lock steam's actual achievements, but you get the idea of still having the satisfaction of doing every achievement properly

[lavish jacinth]

yea true

also man, it really is cruel that not only is PC the only platform that doesn't seem to get the save loss bug, but it's apparently possible to randomly unlock everything too lmao

[paper isle]

steam achievement manager can re lock steam achievements so you could do that

[tardy garden]

is mercurial rachis worth picking up

[lavish jacinth]

it's kinda okay

good damage bonus but annoying to use consistently, but the downside isn't very bad either

[tardy garden]

if im gonna loop should i just pick it up then cleanse it when i can

[lavish jacinth]

sure

it probably won't do much, you won't wanna stay in one place long enough to really use it, but enemies getting an occasional damage bonus doesn't really matter when you're looping and everything can oneshot you anyway

[tardy garden]

true. thx

[loud terrace]

hello me and my friends all suddenly died of spontanous heavy bleed in the game and all died, what bug is this?

[lavish jacinth]

what exactly do you mean by "spontaneous heavy bleed"?

like, you got the actual bleed debuff, or...?

[loud terrace]

we all take like 300 dps of bleed tick and cant heal it off

[loud terrace]

yes from spectator view its dark red daamage

[lavish jacinth]

I don't suppose you have a recording or screenshot
(you'd need a role to post it if you do, #roles )

there are a few things it could've been

[lavish jacinth]

just to rule it out right away
did this happen to occur after someone playing chef died?

[loud terrace]

yes i was chef

[lavish jacinth]

ah okay

so, if chef dies in multiplayer, it causes a whole bunch of bugs

for some reason chef is the only thing holding the fabric of the universe together

and randomly taking a bunch of unavoidable damage out of nowhere is one of the bugs that can happen

[loud terrace]

yes I died to that, and then the bugs chain reactioned and wipe the whole team

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, not much you can do about it, just wait for a patch and try not to die as chef in MP in the mean time lol

[grand tide]

how does attack speed interact with chef? does it make sear hit more times

[livid wedge]

Yes

Increases total amount of ticks

[dim sky]

friends, i just defeated aurelionite and got the halcyon seed. theres a gold and green portal rn, whats the difference between these two now?

[livid wedge]

Green will continue you on the path that leads to false son. Gold will return you to normal stages

[dim sky]

ty

[tender temple]

Is that warped echo by any chance

[loud terrace]

not, its like getting hit by a tri tip dagger and we just take bleed damage like we had 100 stacks of bleed

[tender temple]

I was just saying that cause it's dark red and does big ticks of damage

[crisp timber]

It’s the chef infinity death bug

[wintry crag]

Is the void worth traveling to? Like is the detour worth as im looping

[jaunty furnace]

you mean void fields? yea its basically an extra stage you can loot between normal stages, but it can be risky and you need some form of healing to survive the fog

but if youre looping then nothing is difficult anymore

[lone compass]

its a extra stage early game, sure, but enemies will still scale +1 level once you enter and once you leave

[frigid mural]

what are good items for longer term damage for railgunner? Not sure where to go with such a low attack speed survivor sometimes. Bosses sometimes end up being a slog.

just crit glasses for normal items maybe?

[jaunty furnace]

crit glasses are the (or perhaps the second) worst white damage items for railgunner

[clear whale]

we love vcrit on rg

[jaunty furnace]

are some core damage items

damage items are multiplicative, so multiple different damage items will yield more damage than only stacking one type of item

and are less good on railgunner because youre not gonna be very close-up and crit glasses just dont boost damage by alot on railgunner

bands are ridiculously good burst damage items, perfect for low firerate high damage attacks

things like deal "total" damage, meaning theyll scale based on the attack that activated it

these tips arent really specific for railgunner, these items are great on everyone

[hoary sedge]

nah white scrap clears

[jaunty furnace]

yeah i dont like void crit

• waste of possible scrap
• crit is still a slight damage boost on bosses and/or survivors that dont use it well
• cheesy item for new players to stack instead of having to learn to get actual damage

[next moss]

i got stuck ,how can i fix it
(i use some mod btw)

[trim lynx]

what mods you got?

its likely an outdated one

[next moss]

all good its happen when i use skillswap

[jaunty furnace]

is there a working alternative? how is race doing skillswap runs now?

[next moss]

yeah its good now

its work but no sound

still good

[jaunty furnace]

no sound does not sound good 😭

[next moss]

xd

[autumn flame]

I was playing cracked version and i bought the game anyone know how i can transfer the data file?

[trim lynx]

C:\Program Files(x86)\Steam\userdata[Number]\632360\remote\UserProfiles

[twin valley]

Is it normal for artifact keys to drop every 15-20 minutes

[sweet ibex]

Yes, it's based purely on RNG.

You can get the artifact keys very quickly or not get them to drop for however long.

[steady stone]

generally if you're looping for a while the spawns slow down due to the credits spawning bigger stuff, so you get less drops too

especially if you get far enough that only scavengers spawn it could take like a good hour or two ive heard

[lavish jacinth]

if you're late into a run then yeah, it can happen

but if you're there on stage 5 then it doesn't usually take more than a minute or two between keys, unless you get absurdly unlucky

[twin valley]

It was stage 5 and it took like roughly 35 minutes it was funny

[livid wedge]

If that doesn't work, you can just use realercheatunlock to get back what you had

[sharp sundial]

how do ignition tanks work with chef when he already has 'greater burn' or whatever it's called?

like will a single ignition tank make an oiled sear do more damage than it already does, or would it just make any old sear do the same as oiled?

[livid wedge]

Chef's sear does inflict the Ignite debuff so it will be buffed by ignition tank

[glacial knoll]

Oiled counts as an ignition tank basically 1 to 1

[sharp sundial]

so just to be clear a single ignition basically does nothing if I'm consistently applying oil to enemies?

but ofc stacking ignition would actually give damage there

[vague hedge]

youd also get more dmg from weaken technically but for the most part id assume so, yes

searing enemies w ignition tank vs searing glazed enemies has no difference and the damage doesnt like multiply

ur applying the same strong burn debuff

[sharp sundial]

right

thats interesting ig (if a little sad)

[vague hedge]

chef is a real survivor with real and interesting mechanics and real debuffs

this is intelligent

[glacial knoll]

no if you have oiled and ignition tank it's the same as 2 ignition tanks

[sharp sundial]

oh ok ok

thank you guys

[lavish jacinth]

turns out it actually is

[vague hedge]

most fascinating ;

id like to contend that chef is still a dumb survivor though

(i did totally forget that stronger burn does get stronger w more ignition tank stacks though lol)

[wintry crag]

How come when I open a void cradle using Artifact of Command it doesn’t give me the option for all items?

[crisp timber]

void items are also split into common/uncommon/legendary

[lavish jacinth]

void items have sub-tiers depending on the tier of item they would replace

so if you would get a "white" void item for example, you'd only get choices for other white items

[wintry crag]

Is there a way to make the chance higher for green void items

[lavish jacinth]

no

[wintry crag]

There’s legendary ones?

[lavish jacinth]

[crisp timber]

void chance doll when

[hoary sedge]

30% chance for double items from chance shrine

(void sale star raises the rarity of the item from the first chest you open each stage)

[livid wedge]

It'd have to be chance based

Guaranteed reds per stage would be a little strong

[lone compass]

use it on legendary chest to get a yellow item?

[hoary sedge]

yes

(it will be defense nucleus 40% of the time)

[lone compass]

make it 60 and we have a deal

[amber swan]

Id say legendaries are better then boss items.

Compare tesla to mired urn. (Although urn is forced to be on melee survivors most of the time)

[mellow crystal]

I'd say they're just way less polarizing tbh

Like there are some dogshit reds but the good red:bad red ratio is much better than the good yellow:bad yellow ratio

[lavish jacinth]

aegis vs. knurl, who would win

[edgy wigeon]

Does anyone have a fix for when multiplayer games desync, but only when I'M in the game or hosting?

[lavish jacinth]

if you're the only one having issues then it's probably something with your internet

also obligatory, if you're on steam, make sure everyone has crossplay turned off

[edgy wigeon]

That's what I thought, I have reset both my public and private ip, I have a strong connection, and we made sure we all had crossplay off

[lavish jacinth]

but otherwise I don't think there's a whole lot you can do if it's an internet issue, other than turning off your VPN if you're running one ig

[edgy wigeon]

I just can't find anyone else with the same problem and it's driving me insane

[lavish jacinth]

do you live far away from the people you're playing with?

[edgy wigeon]

No we're all like 10 minutes away

[lavish jacinth]

hmm

yeah, I wish I could help but I don't really know

pray that gearbox fixes ror2's terrible netcode someday lol

[edgy wigeon]

I have a huge suspicion it has something to do with my computers ip. I was able to play the game fine on my old pc, but ever since I got this new one both discord and ROR2 have random bugs

Anyways if you don't know it's fine, literally no one knows about the problem I'm having on the reddit either

[lavish jacinth]

well if it's affecting stuff other than ror2 then it's definitely an issue on your end, but I wouldn't know how to even begin to diagnose it lmao

my approach to fixing tech problems is to poke random things until something works lol

[edgy wigeon]

Yeah

I've been losing sleep for 2 weeks doing that

I love this game and not being able to play it with my friends is so annoying

[tender temple]

That's the kind of issue I have with abiotic factor 💔

Great awesome game but it explodes whenever we try to play coop

[stoic patio]

how do I get a green portal? ive already fought aurelionite like twice now

[clear whale]

Do you have the DLCs enabled
OR
Are you on Stage 4 or beyond
OR
Did you kill False Son once in your current run

[clear whale]

(You cannot get green portals in stage 4 5 and its loop variants)

[stoic patio]

I have seekers on

Not like it mattered anyway, dude unironically two tapped me on easy

[clear whale]

He has a lunar shotgun attack which can instakill you if youre close enough

Keep a distance and use iframes

Pillars / rocks are useful

[bitter juniper]

can you get ballista with transendence??

i beat the tp but i didnt get an achievment

[mellow crystal]

Can also just jump to the side if i-frames and mobility skills aren't available

[mellow crystal]

Shield counts as hp

[stoic patio]

This was hard as hell, what's the optimal route to getting a seed and fighting false son?

[hoary sedge]

go to the bazaar after stage 1, 2, and 3 and take the gilded coast seer if it shows up, then take green path from coast

[jaunty furnace]

you can also spawn a green portal in bazaar by breaking the gold thingamabobs hidden around

[kindred dragon]

hey

does atifact of swarm affect enemy loot drop rate (artifact of sacrifice) by any way like halve drop rate?

second question, does MUL-T ram deal more damage as faster it moves?

[jaunty furnace]

if it says Heavy. then probably

[limpid herald]

its not halving drop rate at all

[kindred dragon]

oh, i remember it's called transportation mode

[kindred dragon]

oh good to know

[jaunty furnace]

im talking about the description

[kindred dragon]

oh

[limpid herald]

ill check wiki

yeah it is

he actually doing more damage if its* got much speed

[lavish jacinth]

It's reduced but not completely halved, and there's a 5% minimum

[kindred dragon]

oh i see

[stoic patio]

Do newt eggs always spawn in a run?

[lavish jacinth]

Newt altars? Yeah, they're almost always guaranteed, I think.

The rules are a little inconsistent but most stages will have at least one, and they always appear in preset spots

[livid wedge]

Yeah, I think the only stage where there's a chance of no shrine is distant roost

[jaunty furnace]

and abyssal

unless you have a way to clip into the doors

[livid wedge]

Yeah. Technically, every abyssal has an altar but sometimes the altar spawns in the cave while the caves are sealed

[kindred dragon]

hey

what is clestinal portal?

oh i remembered now, no need to answer

[edgy wigeon]

With seeker, does the tranquility that "palm blast" grant still revive people?

[steady stone]

No, it can't revive

[edgy wigeon]

So it's just worse

alright

[hoary sedge]

yeah idk what they were thinking with that

the REAL solution is remove the self revive from meditate but yknow

[silent cargo]

With the Operator coming out with the new DLC, you guys think the Engineer will become unnessisary?

[lavish jacinth]

Why would he become unnecessary

[silent cargo]

With the use and command of the drones, the turrets would become obsolete, wouldnt they?

[lavish jacinth]

No? Engineer is a completely different character with a different playstyle

[steady stone]

everyone can already get drones, operator's attacks will just dynamically change based on which drones they have

theyll never be a better version of turrets because turrets get items

[lavish jacinth]

^

It's like saying mul-t makes commando obsolete because they can both shoot fast

[mellow crystal]

I'm guessing you saw that stupid reddit post

[silent cargo]

I don't have reddit

[clear whale]

[clear whale]

operator plays around drones
engineer plays around turrets and items

bungus engineer will still stay

[amber swan]

Drones dont inherit items

[upbeat stump]

ror6 when

[fierce bluff]

Tomorrow

[upbeat stump]

LESSSSGOOOOOOOOOOO

[mental sierra]

As acrid,, should i always be up close and personal with bosses or should i keep my distance and spam poisons?

[dapper bison]

The latter most likely if you’re playing with default abilities. The former if you’re playing with alts

[left forge]

far if you use spit like a sane person
close if you don't value your life and want to get le funny bite damage (also frenzied leap kinda sucks ass since acrid util is mainly for moving not fighting)

[dapper bison]

All alt acrid is a bit weaker to start and takes a sec to get going but is entirely viable and a fun time tho :>
Regenerative keeps you up if you’re consistently proccing it, though gotta be careful about sprint-cancelling your primary’s 3rd hit, since it’s the only one that has regenerative. Bite does too tho and it’s got a pretty short cooldown.

Kinda wish at least 3rd hit of the primary was also poisonous tbh. It’d be a little easier to stack Blight

Decent attack speed also makes sprint-cancelling very unnecessary, and you don’t need that much for you to be regenning pretty quick (too much might make it not proc tho i dunno. Further testing req. on my end)

[cursive hound]

Is there a trick to finding 1 void monster that's just hiding from me? I can't find him and I really want the loot inside the field

Any way to draw him out

[mellow crystal]

If you step into the void seed and move your camera around it should show you a dot indicating where it is

Specifically there's a mechanic where if a void enemy from a void seed is in your FOV then exits it, it'll show a dot tracking their location for a few seconds

Though in my experience it sometimes doesn't work unless you enter the void seed

[cursive hound]

I tried that, it's what I used to find the last ones, I think this one is one of those worms that stay underground but I don't know if it waits for you to be nearby or if it follows you

[jaunty furnace]

stepping into the void seed has nothing to do with it lol?

you just look away from everything and the arrow should appear

then a brief dot will appear towards the enemy when you look in their direction

[cursive hound]

No arrow for this last one though, I looked all accross my screen

[jaunty furnace]

ive heard of the game just bugging out and having a nonexistent void enemy though

[cursive hound]

Oh bruh

[jaunty furnace]

didnt happen to me but it might be a bug? idk

or maybe the enemy exists and the game just isnt marking it

[cursive hound]

I shoulda found it by now, or it shoulda found me

Even the fireworks can't find it, they aren't seeking anything

[mellow crystal]

Placebo then probably

[jaunty furnace]

markers appear when theres 3 or less void enemies left

[muted nimbus]

Does each dlc change the meta for the entire game from the start or just for extra levels

[mellow crystal]

The dlcs both add new items, and both of them add more strong items than weak ones, so they both make the game easier

[clear whale]

New dlc will add Super Evil Enemy That Kills You

[jaunty furnace]

the former

but its not like its an entirely different game

its still ror2

but with more stuff

[muted nimbus]

Would you recommend a new player just play the base game first if they really want to learn to play well? Or could I just not choose the OP weapons

[jaunty furnace]

you can start with base game or dlc1

[mellow crystal]

Your choice tbh

The dlc items don't really impact difficulty so much that they'd affect the learning process I'd think

[jaunty furnace]

i wouldnt think about it too hard

[muted nimbus]

Are you talking about Survivors of the Void?

[jaunty furnace]

i started with dlc1 and came out perfectly fine

base game is still fine though

dlc1 is great, if you want more content grab that

but other than that, it may not be a good idea to put in a bijillion dlcs on your first run

idk

[ebon saffron]

does anyone have any idea approximately when Alloyed collective will be released ?

[jaunty furnace]

theyre aiming for this year

[ebon saffron]

ahh okay thanks !

[muted nimbus]

So what is your character supposed to be in the lore? A cyborg or some sort of AI? For some reason the game gives me No Man’s Sky vibes

[jaunty furnace]

depends on the character

[last field]

most of the characters are human really

[livid wedge]

Most are human

Engineer is probably some level of cyborg if his lore is about him

[last field]

MUL-T is a robot based off a multi-tool
REX is half robot, half plant
acrid is a dangerous and unstable experiment that just wanted to be isolated from the world
viend is a void-corrupted commando
false son is a providence statue that was given life from aurelionite, but then corrupted by lunar spikes from vultures that followed mithrix
CHEF is a chef bot for the crew
heretic / kur-skan was a vulture and follower of mithrix that tried to hijack the UES contact light before getting diced up by providence

these are all the characters that are not human, or look like human (viend specifically)

[jaunty furnace]

i thought his deal was that he was pissed at people using cybernetic enhancements or whatever?

[jaunty furnace]

yeah

engi is probably the most human

atleast thats what i feel like is implied

[quasi topaz]

I think it was said somehwere that engi hates cybernetic enhancments and instead wears an exosuit

[last field]

engi probably doesnt like captain i feel

since captain's body is basically just prosthetics and enhancements

at least iirc

[trim lynx]

its kinda completely ambiguous

engi ror2 log isnt even from his perspective

[edgy wigeon]

Recently when I'm hosting a game, all of my friends desync, and when someone else hosts, I desync. Does anyone have any fixes for this other than the common fixes? (crossplay, lobby code, verify file integrity, etc.) I've already tried a ton of those.

[muted nimbus]

So it seems like the Seekers DLC had a rough reception at launch. Have the devs improved it much?

[hoary sedge]

yeah they fixed basically all of the problems it had

it's pretty good now

[mellow crystal]

By quite a bit yeah
It's arguably better than sotv now

Like I always say, sotv for the items, sots for the survivors and final boss

[jaunty furnace]

i would not go that far

[zealous mortar]

Think about it. Really good and vast stages, amazing music, expansive lore, good art direction, unique items, new hidden realm, and 3 survivors instead of 2

[jaunty furnace]

you sound like a store page

[lavish jacinth]

imo the one big problem with sots is that a large amount of its content is based around the alt path stages. The content in it IS really good, but sotv's content has a much bigger impact on regular gameplay whereas sots kinda just adds a big sidequest to the game.

I think both dlcs are good but I do think sotv is just slightly better if you have to pick one or the other

[zealous mortar]

It just means that I'm really good at marketing (I have no marketing experience)

[hearty ivy]

Raw talent fr

[hoary sedge]

yeah i think that's the big difference for me, you really feel the presense of the sotv stuff in most runs but you kinda have to delibarately go to the sots content (outside of the enemies and busted ass items anyway)

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

and I don't even think it's a bad thing by itself, separating the content does help reduce content bloat a little bit

[frosty reef]

void seeds were a very good sidequest implementation way better than stand in circle

[mellow crystal]

Anything is better than stand in circle atp tbh

[lavish jacinth]

insert payday 3 joke

[mellow crystal]

False son climb is better than mithrix pillars
Void seeds are better

What else is there

[frosty reef]

voidling parkour

[sharp sundial]

locus is also better than meridian

imo

[lavish jacinth]

nah, locus sucks (imo)

it's just more "stand in circle" crap but you can't even leave the circles because of the fog, and you can't skip them

prime meridian is both skippable and doesn't require standing in a circle, and there's an actual reward for not skipping it

contact light is still the best final boss stage in the series imo, but prime meridian is pretty alright

[muted nimbus]

When I interact with an item scrapper does the game pause so I can think about what items I want to scrap

[lavish jacinth]

no