ror2-game-questions

[lavish jacinth]

Rng just be like that sometimes

[broken garden]

yeah prob

yeah

[kindred herald]

Unless you’re playing with mods it’s probably just confirmation bias yeah

Eclipse doesn’t change spawns or loot

[bleak fern]

what would be the best proc characters to play in your opinion?

[hoary sedge]

commando captain and nailgun mult have very reliable proccing m1s

viend rex and huntress are also pretty solid

[lavish jacinth]

Engineer and chef are good too

[bleak fern]

thanks

[lavish jacinth]

double saw powermode mul-t also has the highest proc rate in the game, but double saw PM is pretty awkward

[short needle]

Can someone pleeaase help me? A few days ago playing with mods i opened the game and it asked me to create a new profile instead of the normal intro and it kept repeating until the loading time was done and took me to the menu. That kept happening and i thought it was a mod but i checked and disabled everything and it still happens even when i open the game through steam. last time the music wasnt even playing anymore

[lavish jacinth]

try this

save files are at Steam\userdata[Number]\632360\remote\UserProfiles

[marble magnet]

Is false sons growth lunar spikes like

The more you hold the more power and attack speed you have

The less you have the more regen and movement speed you have?

[marble magnet]

Thanks

[queen ether]

How do I unlock more artifacts other than the artifact og honor? Cuz everytime I do that formula thing it's always the same

Do I like experiment with different formulas till I find one Workin?

[lavish jacinth]

you have to find different codes, the rest are hidden throughout the game

[queen ether]

Ty

[umbral knot]

yeah or u can js search it up

im a loser and searched them up

[lavish jacinth]

^ the wiki has them, plus a hint guide if you wanna do it legit but get stuck https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifacts

[queen ether]

Well looks like I haven't found till now are they like in hidden areas?

[queen ether]

Alr imma check that out

[lavish jacinth]

they're usually in out-of-the way spots or are some kind of small puzzle

if you wanna hunt for them I'd suggest using loader, or anyone else with really good mobility

[queen ether]

Ic imma try to find some this run if I can't well then might have to do the loser way ngl

[queen ether]

Alright

[short needle]

What if my pc doesnt have the folder 632360?

I even watched a tutorial on how to edit lunar coins to find it and it just isnt there

[lavish jacinth]

well that's the folder for ror2's save data, so it must exist somewhere

but supposedly it can also be done through the in-game console (ctrl+alt+~ to enable it), put in intro_skip 0

[short needle]

I checked my pc's storage on my phone and it shows more folders on my phone, im gonna try that

[tribal folio]

does anyone have any advice for getting to wave 50 on the simulacrum

[lavish jacinth]

get plenty of aoe and crowd control items and go for a survivor that handles crowds well

[peak holly]

Go drizzle, use a character like engineer or mult and it’s easy peasy

[lavish jacinth]

engineer is probably the best overall, although I'd imagine the sots survivors also do pretty well

and when in doubt

[tribal folio]

thank u guyyssssss!!! im gonna try it now

[short needle]

I did it on artificer, she works very well on simulacrum too

[short needle]

Thank you so much, its finally working properly

[lavish jacinth]

nice

[mental zephyr]

can anyone help me get false sons alternate utility? ive tried multiple times and it still hasnt given me the move even tho i do it correctly

[sudden spruce]

What’s the minimum damage % to Proc bands?

[lavish jacinth]

400% base damage

[sudden spruce]

Ty

[lavish jacinth]

that one's a pain in the ass, you mostly treat it like the other "kill mithrix with X" challenges where you try to mostly get damage mutlipliers and avoid procs and stuff that could steal the kill. But you have to be REALLY careful about making sure that Aurelionite actually gets the final hit while keeping lunar ruin active on Mithrix

Try to keep an eye on Auri and only apply ruin right when she's about to attack so that she does most of the damage, can help boost her dps a bit (preferably on an equipment drone for better uptime)

[short bolt]

What’s void fiends best items to pick up

[lavish jacinth]

crit chance is good for building corruption and staying corrupt longer, is good for healing as regen doesn't affect corruption and can give him a way to heal while corrupted (the corruption gained from crit should outweigh the amount lost from scythe, just don't stack too many)

other than that, proc items are good on him but he's pretty flexible overall

just avoid %-based healing that's hard to control like

[rain creek]

is it worth using false son's combo m1m2?

[lavish jacinth]

very

1000% aoe slam about once per second is pretty damn strong

and if you slam from high enough it'll increase the proc coeff to 1.5 with a bigger radius (specifically you have to fall for at least half a second)

[rain creek]

alright yeah when you put it that way it makes sense

oh it does more damage the higher you fall from?

[short bolt]

Thanks fax machine

[lavish jacinth]

damage stays the same, but bigger radius and 50% more likely to proc on-hit effects

[rain creek]

alright alright, still trying to undertstand what his strengths are

thank you

[lavish jacinth]

he's kinda good at everything lol

oh yeah, and you can do this

[rain creek]

lmao

[uneven crow]

So I generally know which one is good items, but I always feel I deal no dmg even when I pick them up.

[lavish jacinth]

if you aren't already, try mixing different damage items so they can boost each other's effects, don't just stick to stacking only the best ones

it's usually combining items that makes them strong, not just individual ones

[uneven crow]

For example this run https://i.postimg.cc/D04RMrNt/image.png

I always focus on loot efficiency but I guess that's something I just have to play a lot to know which location the loot can spawn and don't have to check. Or gain intuition for the director cost

[lavish jacinth]

your damage there probably wouldn't be amazing but it shouldn't be horrible either

are you spamming rex's m2 or just using his primary?

[uneven crow]

I use everything, I'm using the default loadout

My run always end up like that. The time is fine, could be faster; items are fine too. So I just don't know what'st he problem

[lavish jacinth]

some runs do just end up like that

it's not often you'll get a run where you're doing broken amounts of damage by stage 4, especially on a character like rex whose damage is just okay

and the items you've got are fine, along with your items per minute, the only thing I'd really say is that you've got lot of extra white scrap but that shouldn't be enough to kill the run or anything

[uneven crow]

yeah iirc I can't find any printer or good printer at all

[lavish jacinth]

I really wish the items collected stat was actually accurate to how many items you're holding

[uneven crow]

The thing is, when I watch someone like Race, nothing seems particularly special aside from better looting. Then I check his items and think, ‘I have no idea where all that damage comes from'.

[hardy olive]

coming back to the game after a few years, is there any way to disable ninja looting yet

[uneven crow]

I can't point out why I deal no dmg and why his run deals more dmg

[lavish jacinth]

yea, idk what to tell you

ig you just don't have enough subscribers or something

[lavish jacinth]

what, like people stealing items in multiplayer? no

well actually there is, it's called singleplayer

[hardy olive]

how unfortunate

[lavish jacinth]

pray that AC finally adds some multiplayer improvements ig

[hardy olive]

the all item share mod kind of fixes it, but meh

[elfin zodiac]

our items

[mellow crystal]

Communication is a viable strategy against ninja looting but only works on certain types of enemies

[static pulsar]

yall how do I get good at artificer

I got to stage 7 in monsoon but I was genuinely fighting for my life the entire time

feel like my damage and survivability weren't good enough the entire time

and then I just got one tapped

[clear whale]

Get more items

Post loop enemies tend to deals a shitload of damage

[glacial knoll]

freeze dangerous enemies and just do what you can

[wild sluice]

is there crossplay between steam and play station?

[quasi topaz]

No

[viral sorrel]

size scales with airtime ?

[thick garden]

any advices to beat false son ? I just encountered him and I died not knowing how to dodge his melee attacks beside my mobility skill

[wraith raft]

Is the huntress the more effective survivor in terms of newbie experience? I mean in terms of difficulty to use

[lavish jacinth]

She's not very strong but very easy to use if you're not good at stuff like aiming and dodging

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[wraith raft]

I see

[past monolith]

what does this meter do and how do i charge it?

[steady stone]

Use meditate to charge it, you get stat boosts for each level and a revive on max stacks

[stoic bobcat]

can u get the lizard survivor in esay mode?

easy

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, difficulty doesn't matter for most unlocks

[mellow crystal]

On top of what Jiji said, all of your abilities also get boosts for each one you fill

[stoic bobcat]

kk who do u recommend me using?

[past monolith]

thats interesting

[somber widget]

when dlc will realese?

[lavish jacinth]

we'll know tomorrow

[mellow crystal]

Would be funny if AC release date was in 2 days

[lavish jacinth]

whoever you're comfortable with, but engineer is a good choice since it requires doing a lot of tiny holdout zones. Just be sure to get some move speed and healing (preferably ) before you go to void fields

Although I wouldn't recommend melee survivors so much, vields is rough without ranged damage

[stoic bobcat]

i had issue where

i found one of the void fields after i finish one

and tried starting it but it didnt want to start

so i ended up dying

[lavish jacinth]

you have to do them in a certain order

[stoic bobcat]

how'd i know the order?

[lavish jacinth]

there'll be a big purple beam in the sky showing which one you have to do next

[stoic bobcat]

or see

ooo tyyy

[lavish jacinth]

use the pillars for cover as much as you can, especially in his first phase. In general you wanna play defensively wear him down when you get a good opportunity, instead of being as aggressive as you would with mithrix

having slowing effects or minions to distract him is also really effective

[mellow crystal]

If you have movespeed items or chronobauble then you can also consistently dodge dash + slam by turning around and sprinting when he initiated the dash

[stoic bobcat]

how much is dlcs ?

[thick garden]

I don't know who is mithrix but alright thanks for the tips

[stoic bobcat]

i keep hearing false son he seems he got aura

also can u get these dlc characters if ur friend has the dlc?

[thick garden]

well he's at the top of an area that spam boss and have thunder that fall from the sky

[mellow crystal]

Nop

[lavish jacinth]

they're both on sale for $10 atm

[stoic bobcat]

ty

yo

is there a way to like make chests and shrines more shown like highlighted or something without needing that one equipment or pinging it?
i cant see well and i struggle to find them

[lavish jacinth]

Unfortunately there isn't in vanilla, but if you're on pc there might be a mod for it, #ror2-modding would know

[mellow crystal]

ChestQoL is a good mod for it but yeah no vanilla options

[ebon fern]

is good to have?

[lavish jacinth]

Nah it kinda sucks

[mellow crystal]

Its only consistent use is making the false son bossfight mildly easier

[lavish jacinth]

All it does is block one debuff every 5 seconds, it doesn't do anything to prevent direct damage

is basically a better version, it blocks debuffs AND damage with the only tradeoff being a longer cooldown (which shortens with stacks)

[ebon fern]

atm i have both and

[mellow crystal]

I'm sorry spaces blocks debuffs????

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, so does tougher times

[ebon fern]

trying to run back my last run with some tweaks because i was an idiot and got hit by mithrix in his final phase and died to my own bleeding debuff 😔

pain

[lavish jacinth]

Blocking damage basically treats it like the hit didn't even happen, so debuffs don't get applied

[ebon fern]

i see

does his needle attack in the final phase track onto the player?

just curious

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, it has a little bit of homing

[ebon fern]

ah

makes sense now, i got hit while behind a pillar and my own bleeding took care of the rest

[mellow crystal]

A tiny bit but as long as you're strafing it shouldn't matter

[lavish jacinth]

The homing is fairly weak though, if you stick to cover or stay near him and hug his back, it can't track you

I have a short mithrix guide in the pins that might help

[ebon fern]

so would it be better to strafe with 0 movement speed or stick to cover

i can handle every other phase its just sometimes i make a light screw up

also im using commando

[lavish jacinth]

Cover is safer, but hugging him and circlestrafing works if you don't have a ranged attack (or you're just impatient)

But the safe strat is to stay behind cover and poke him to death when his attacks are on cooldown

[ebon fern]

oh yeah i remember why it was a bit more confusing last time, i have swarms on so there's also 2 of him with less hp, and i was behind a single pillar, they were walking opposite directions, so i had him shooting at me from both sides

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, fighting mithrix with swarms is a little awkward

[ebon fern]

and no healing made it fun when i got hit with my own bleeding debuff

i usually prefer using swarms because i get more items quicker

just a preference

[lavish jacinth]

It's always worth having some healing drones for that

And drones are just handy in general for taking aggro

[ebon fern]

yeah, i always get bad luck with drone spawns and only end up with one healing drone

[mellow crystal]

You should be completely safe as long as you do this but after like 1-2 seconds of walking closer to hin

In that clip I'm a bit too far away so the needle homing has a small chance to clip me

[ebon fern]

my one healing drone i had in that run died pretty easily to the flame pillars he creates

[ebon fern]

i see, only issue is there was 2 of him shooting double the amount of needles

(swarms)

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, It's worth it to repair them when he steals your items. Especially if you have since the turrets will hang around and give you some free damage at the start of phase 4

[mellow crystal]

As long as you're still moving in roughly a circle around both of them you should be fine
To play it safe, sprint in a circle when he fires the needles instead of strafing in a circle

[ebon fern]

should i try getting and

not sure if its practical for me atm

[lavish jacinth]

I don't have much experience with swarms mithrix lol, I almost never use artifacts

[lavish jacinth]

Caffienator builds are gimmicky but fun, and they do work

[ebon fern]

would it be better than having

[lavish jacinth]

If you have an on-kill build then no

[ebon fern]

is there any lunar item you recommend i grab? im in the shop

[lavish jacinth]

Spamming polyps against mithrix is incredibly funny though, the turrets have really strong knockback so he can't even get close

[lavish jacinth]

is pretty much always a safe bet, is also really good on commando

[ebon fern]

alright

ill give an update in the stage before the moon just incase i should stay and grab some more of something else

[lavish jacinth]

There are other good lunars but those are probably the least risky

is good too

[pallid mirage]

Are going for pearls worth it and can I only dismantle one lunar item per pool

[lavish jacinth]

You can use pools as many times as you want

And its worth it if you're willing to give up a lunar, it's basically a free stat buff

If you're lucky, there's a 20% chance that it drops an irradiant pearl that gives a 10% buff to all stats

[pallid mirage]

That sounds really really good

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, it's a nice bonus if you get one

[ebon fern]

here's an update

lmk if i should stack more of something or wait and try to get a different item before moving on

i got 2 med drones instead of one this time, not sure how much it'll help lol

[past monolith]

to unlock false son do i just need to have the halcyon seed in my inventory or does aurelionite need to kill him

[lavish jacinth]

You just need to have halcyon seed in your inventory

Auri definitely isn't gonna kill him

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, you should be fine. Protip tho, lensmakers is useless past 10 stacks

Technically you only need 8 or 9 since all give 5% each on the first stack

[ebon fern]

yeah im right before the arena now, hopefully i can strafe one direction and the 2 of his needle attacks won't hit me

nothing i can do really

i do have a lot of squid pollups

ill probably spawn a bunch, and itll also activate fireworks that i grabbed

[lavish jacinth]

Planula is also kinda mid btw, are easy top picks for boss items

[ebon fern]

i wanted to grab but i didnt get another drop sadly

[lavish jacinth]

Razorwire+crit+scythe is basically giving you a better version of planulas effect anyway

Yeah, spleen would definitely be your first priority to grab for a bleed build

[lavish jacinth]

would get you a guaranteed boss item if you get extra equipment drops

[pallid mirage]

Hey fax machine what's the most embarrassing ending of a run you have ever had

[lavish jacinth]

Uhh I have a clip of it but I'm not at my pc atm

Complete 0iq moment of letting myself get clapped by a brass contraption, I just wasn't even thinking at all and walked into it lmao

[ebon fern]

+ + is OP, there practically wasn't a third phase because i melted his healthbar 😭

[lavish jacinth]

Polyps are silly

[ebon fern]

yes, and the fireworks also came in clutch

[hasty belfry]

Anyone had issues in Modded ror2 where after my teammate dies my items stop working

my shatterspleen my plasma shrimp just don't trigger their effects

[lavish jacinth]

Was your teammate chef?

[hasty belfry]

@lavish jacinth Yes

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, that's not a mod issue then

[hasty belfry]

is there a mod to fix it?

preferably client sided?

[lavish jacinth]

Chef's existence is the only thing holding the fabric of reality together

[lavish jacinth]

You can ask #ror2-modding

Dunno if it would be client-side though, since bugfixes do technically change gameplay

[hasty belfry]

u-u yeah fair

[pallid mirage]

The Humble Brass Contraption

[stoic bobcat]

yo

my friend has that one survivor that revives people

he tried reviving me rn but he couldnt
why?

[lavish jacinth]

Did they revive you once already? Seeker can only revive you once per stage

And to rule out the obvious, are they using the default special, and do they have tranquility maxed out?

[stoic bobcat]

he revie me b4yes

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, that would be why

[prisma mirage]

trying to complete monster logs and have no idea what this locked one is. Ik the ???s are aurelionite and overloading worm, but no screenshot I can find has a non-dlc enemy between mithrix and lunar chimera so I have no clue what this could be. Any idea?

[steady stone]

Scorch wurm I believe

He's never cared about whether you owned the DLC or not, for some reason

[prisma mirage]

thats weird

I have killed scorch worm too in prismatic trials and multiplayer, so it kind of sucks that it stays locked without the DLC

[lavish jacinth]

it's probably actually False Son but the issue is the same either way, some of the sots monsters just show up locked in your logbook even if you don't own the dlc

[prisma mirage]

does that ruin game completion % at all

[lavish jacinth]

not sure tbh

[viral sorrel]

does seeker get 14% bonus stats (7% from meditation stacks + 7% from saving grace) and do other people get 7% just from saving grace

also are these stats additive or multiplicative

[lavish jacinth]

The ingame description is wrong, meditation doesn't grant a stat boost so you only ever get 7% from saving grace.
And it works like other stat boosts, so the health, damage and regen buffs are multiplicative while move speed, attack speed and crit chance are additive

[stoic bobcat]

thx forgot to ask. can u play with others who r in vanilla while having that mod

im pc yes

[lavish jacinth]

not sure, it would depend on whether the mod is clientside or not

this might be what you want but I haven't tried it https://thunderstore.io/package/Faustvii/QoLChests/

and it is clientside so other players wouldn't need it

[quasi canopy]

I just bought the DLC's as well as the game on my PC after having it on console for a while as it was on sale, are there things I should do before using the DLC's in my runs?

[lavish jacinth]

nah

[quasi canopy]

ok thanks

[stoic bobcat]

THX

[viral sorrel]

so seeker gets a free dmg mult ?

[stoic bobcat]

tutorial on installling?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[lavish jacinth]

you'll want the mod manager, r2modman. It's pinned on the front page of thunderstore.io

just install that and then use it to install any other mods you want, it'll do the rest

[quasi canopy]

is there a "best" survivor or is it personal preference?

[stoic bobcat]

thx

i alr have thunderstore app

[lavish jacinth]

every survivor is viable so it's up to preference, but technically the best would be seeker or false son

[stoic bobcat]

both dlcs?

[broken mountain]

well some better than others but who cares its single player game

[lavish jacinth]

yeah just play whoever you want

[broken mountain]

non competitive i mean

[lavish jacinth]

worst case scenario, you pick a weak character in multiplayer and your teammates just do more damage than you

[cunning elbow]

where find these?

[paper isle]

do the teleporter

[lavish jacinth]

that means a blue and gold portal will spawn after doing the teleporter

[cunning elbow]

which is better?

[lavish jacinth]

depends, do you wanna go to the bazaar or gilded coast

[cunning elbow]

im new idk what those are

[lavish jacinth]

in that case you might as well go with gold, they're a lot rarer

[cunning elbow]

yea regular chat said go in gold

there a list for portals?

[lavish jacinth]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Interactables#Portals

[pallid mirage]

Give me some tips and tricks with false son

I'm so ass when I play him

[lavish jacinth]

get health-boosting items for growth, even bison steak is useful for once (but the juicy ones are %health buffs like nectar, pearls, or stone flux)

spam the charged primary when you're up close, it's even better if you can use it in midair if you have a good way to gain height

abuse the hell out of lunar ruin, it's a powerful multiplier that you basically get for free, and it is literally broken with proc items

his alt special is better, but if you do use default, don't forget that you need to fully charge it if you wanna deal any damage at all with it

[crisp timber]

Luminous shot is your best damage item with slam

[lavish jacinth]

volcanic egg and eccentric vase can stall out the slam with his charged m1 for a really long time, which is great since the radius scales with fall height

[pallid mirage]

I got some pearls in my current run and but do you mean the lunar, ruin item or is it something else

[lavish jacinth]

lunar ruin is the debuff that his secondary applies

[pallid mirage]

Ohhhhh

[lavish jacinth]

it makes enemies take 10% more damage per stack

and due to a bug, it exponentially increases the damage of proc chains because the multiplier gets reapplied at each step of the chain

[uneven crow]

Is there a thing that show all possible loot location on each map? Chests locations are predetermined right

[quasi topaz]

will mark all interactables on a stage

[uneven crow]

I mean all possible locations, so I can learn loot pathing

[lavish jacinth]

the locations aren't predetermined for most things, no

[quasi topaz]

Pathing just comes from knowing the general stage layout and following a route that you find comfortable

[lavish jacinth]

but with experience you kinda get a feel for where you should look for loot

if it helps, interactables spawn using the same nodegraph that enemies use for pathfinding, so they'll always be in spots that enemies can easily reach

and they tend to be spread out somewhat evenly, you won't usually see like 10 chests clustered in one corner of the map or whatever

[uneven crow]

That spread out thing is curious to me, sometimes I see people don't check all the stairs in Siphoned Forest or know when to stop checking Scorched Acres

Like they see a chest spawn at a location, that means it can't spawn at the other so they won't check it

[lavish jacinth]

afaik there isn't really a way to know for absolute certain that a certain spot is or isn't going to have loot, but some areas do tend to be "hotspots" that are likely to have loot. Honestly I have no idea why exactly it happens, probably just something with the algorithm that places chests, but it's one of those things that you get a feel for over time.

[lavish jacinth]

dunno what's up with this though, there's no case where a chest spawning in one spot will guarantee that another spot won't have one, not counting stuff like newt altars or the sundered grove legendary chest

unless they've just found enough items that they feel like they've gotten everything and don't need to keep checking, which is also something that comes with experience. On average you can usually expect something like 8-15 items depending on which stage you're on

there just aren't really a lot of hard rules for chest spawns which is why it's important to come up with routes that let you at least look at every major spot on the map

[supple yoke]

Do clover n purity cancel each other out

[worldly olive]

Yeah, you just get the -2 seconds cooldown that Purity gives with no luck penalty

[past monolith]

uhhh how am i meant to do stage 7 void fields with mul-t when i get a start like this

[marble magnet]

Not exactly a RoR2 question than it is a whole

What is Acrid

Is Acrid Acrid or a lumerian type thing?

[trim lynx]

acrid is a chimera comprised of the dna of many creatures

[marble magnet]

I.mesn it says stage 7 or later

Just loop and loop and loop until it doesn't matter

[marble magnet]

Ah

[past monolith]

ig so

[trim lynx]

internally its known as "croco", but according to what we know, its a nlend of a whole lot of everything

also was a test subject aboard the contact light

[marble magnet]

I see

Acrid kinda cool he was goop once

He's not now but he was goop

[unreal shell]

if my friend and i play bandit and he gets the final hit on the final boss with the special for the achieve, will i also get the achieve?

[hoary sedge]

nope

it specifically has to be YOUR kill

[unreal shell]

alrighty, ty

[hoary sedge]

same with all of the other "kill mithrix with x" achievements

except family bonding maybe I don't actually know how that one works in multiplayer

[past monolith]

what does stacking transmitter do

[frosty reef]

it should tell you in the logbook

or you can find it on the wiki.gg

[somber widget]

when we will now when dlc will realese?

[lavish jacinth]

It'll be in #announcements

[primal vector]

In 5 hours we will know when the release date for the DLC will be announced

[raw stump]

Correction its the eta of the next dev diary

I was bummed about it aswell

[primal vector]

Yes, but the dev diary will contain the release date for the DLC

[raw stump]

Dev diary isn't coming out today though

Oh wait I misread that

Mb ignore what I said

[pallid mirage]

Do lunar pools only spawn in certain maps

[primal vector]

The ones that turn lunar items into pearls yes, they are limited to these stages

[pallid mirage]

Thank you

[grave pecan]

i am in my first solo loop god run and i made a very weird setup as you can see. so basically i have a crap ton of on-kill items(and gestures and fuel cells which make the CD like half a second) that get used by the FMP and i used the royal capacitor the whole run as my secondary damage but i found a blast shower that i heard clears band cooldowns.

so my question is which will help me do more damage, the RC or BS?

i have like 3 bands of each type so 6 in total

p.s. i will be fighting the obilisk boss not mithrix as i am scared will insta kill me once he get my items and i dont have any dlcs

someone plz reply fast

[lavish jacinth]

at that point in the run it probably doesn't matter, honestly. You could just try both for a bit and see which one feels better

[mellow crystal]

Yeah I was about to say, a minor to medium increase in dps doesn't really matter by stage 10, let alone 21

[grave pecan]

i will try the blast shower then as i have 3 brown bands so 1050% damage every .5 secs

[lavish jacinth]

and for what it's worth, Mithrix probably wouldn't be as bad as you'd think either. He can only use like 35 unique items in phase 4 iirc, and a good chunk of your items are on-kills and aoe which he can't even really use against you. Just hide behind a pillar and poke him with rebar puncher when his attacks are on cooldown

plus you're on drizzle

[grave pecan]

i almost died on cells at stage 10 when the mosters had like 20 items

[lavish jacinth]

void fields is a different story

you're locked in a tiny bubble surrounded by monsters, usually without much cover

with mithrix you can just hide

[grave pecan]

unique? so 1 of each? no stacks?

[lavish jacinth]

35 different items, but he does use all the stacks

[grave pecan]

then i'd rather not i have atgs and sticks and bleed

[lavish jacinth]

It's whatever you wanna do, I'm just putting it out there. I've fought mithrix on runs like this and it went fine, and that was on monsoon

[dusky raven]

Also you are way more liable to getting one shot by Wipwip than Mithrix

[grave pecan]

ok thanks for the advice but ill fight the scavenger just to be safe, i'll try god run mithrix some other time

[dusky raven]

But on drizzle I doubt you have anything to worry about at this point

[grave pecan]

i'll try to stay as far as possible

[lavish jacinth]

(also this would be 1650% total damage, if you have 3 of each band)

[grave pecan]

oh yea

so definitely better then RC

i'll update when i am done with the run

well... lucky me

[drifting pike]

i have not yet bought the game, so i would like to know if i should buy just the game or with the dlcs

[lavish jacinth]

the dlcs are worth getting if you enjoy the game, but get the base game first and see if you like it

[drifting pike]

okay fair, considering it will add that 16e higher price tag

[low cave]

Anyone help me to unlock new character ? Just downloaded this game

[lavish jacinth]

most of the character unlocks are pretty easy, but if you want someone to play with you can try the lfg channels #lfg-pc-ror2 (or whatever platform you're on)

[low cave]

Ty for the info!

[marble magnet]

Why did I revive here?

(context, void fog covered entire map because I couldn't kill enemies in time, void fog killed all enemies and me)

[lavish jacinth]

uhhhhhhh that's a good question

I have exactly one guess

normally in multiplayer, dead players revive at the start of each wave.
it looks like you died right as the wave ended, and you revived because the death screen hadn't popped up yet. It's possible they forgot to disable the reviving in singleplayer because the window where it's possible is so small

[marble magnet]

Wowie

[lavish jacinth]

there's a similar thing that happens if you give seed of life to an equipment drone, if it happens to activate it in the window between you dying and the death screen appearing

but I have no idea if the same thing can happen with the simulacrum revive, it's just the only thing that makes sense lol

[marble magnet]

Currently just disappointed I thought we'd get news today 🥹🥹🥹🥹 for ror2

[marble magnet]

Pure luck babyy

[marble magnet]

Rorr content is nice but

I was so hyped..

Anywho uh

Thanks

[stoic bobcat]

can i get merc without failing the run/stage

[lavish jacinth]

no, obliterating yourself ends the run

[spare meadow]

Just wanted to ask how the prime meridian artifact storage works. Does it stay forever? Or for the next run, only?

[lavish jacinth]

it's just for the next run

[stoic bobcat]

,my firend is saying if u use beads it wont end it

[spare meadow]

Thank you

[lavish jacinth]

it adds an extra thing after obliterating, but the run still ends. There's no way to continue the run either way

[woeful fog]

Which dlc to buy? I can only buy only one dlc, Which one do you reccomend me to buy?

⭐ Seekers of The Storm
🌕 Survivors of the Void

[lavish jacinth]

and I wouldn't recommend taking beads if you're going for merc, because you won't unlock him if you die during the aforementioned extra thing

[lavish jacinth]

Both are good but I'd slightly recommend SotV over SotS

SotV's content has more impact on normal runs, while a lot of SotS content is tied to the alternate stage path that it adds

[solemn torrent]

yurt go

like yes

[woeful fog]

SotS has more playable characters i have heard, such as chef etc. I don't know

[lavish jacinth]

but it depends on what you want, SotV has more items and more basegame-ish content, SotS has fun (and completely broken) characters, cool stages and a way better final boss

[stoic bobcat]

ty

[woeful fog]

There was a guy carrying a heavy greatsword in my multiplayer game, which dlc is it in? He literally one shotted the boss

he was so slow

[lavish jacinth]

None of the characters have a greatsword so it might've been paladin (which is a modded character)

but False Son is similar-looking and has a club so it might've also been him, he's part of SotS

[woeful fog]

Nah, It was like, hes carrying something heavy on the ground he literally cant raise it

but to attack

[lavish jacinth]

I think paladin and false son are both like that lol

I haven't played paladin in ages

was it one of these two guys?

[woeful fog]

the first one

[lavish jacinth]

that's False Son then, yeah

[woeful fog]

is it in seekers of the storm?

[past monolith]

yes

if you like coop then sots has also a character that works pretty nicely there

[stoic bobcat]

if we kill false son its the final boss no matrix?

[woeful fog]

Mm, I'm still a bit confused, I want improved gameplay and more content, and playable characters, but a cool theme neither, I'm still going between seekers of the storm and void DLC

[lavish jacinth]

you can kill both in the same run

[past monolith]

ok so basically void dlc is a lot more items than sots

[lavish jacinth]

if you interact with the rebirth altar but cancel instead of picking an item, it'll spawn a portal back to normal stages

[past monolith]

sots adds less items but more cosmetics and a whole alternate path

[stoic bobcat]

can i get the final hit bandit thing on his ult on false son and it will count?

[lavish jacinth]

I think it has to be on mithrix

[past monolith]

also both dlcs gives 3 characters pretty sure

[lavish jacinth]

no, SotV only adds 2

[woeful fog]

void gives 2 :I

[past monolith]

oh mb then

[woeful fog]

I mean why would i use a chef in the mars when i could get to use a heavy guy who one shots everything in close range, and im not looking to support my friends either so

I must think some more

[lavish jacinth]

all three of those characters are from seekers of the storm

[woeful fog]

Hmm, may I ask something?

[lavish jacinth]

sure

[woeful fog]

There was a pillar that constantly kept stealing our money and spawning creatures and at the very end it spawned a golden golem which we had to fight for an item that gives us 5 or 3 items

which dlc is it in?

oh also the green portal too

[lavish jacinth]

that was seekers

[past monolith]

also an important thing is that sots music isnt made by chris pretty sure

[past monolith]

yeah sots

[lavish jacinth]

nah, chris did the SotS music, it's AC that's done by a different guy

[woeful fog]

Hmm, I'd rather buy seekers of the storm then, but doesnt void dlc adds more biomes?

i mean stages

[past monolith]

sots adds some stage variants

but the main thing is the whole alternative path

[lavish jacinth]

Seekers technically adds more, but a lot of them are only on the alt path or variants of existing stages

[slender stream]

Did they fix the issue with the game not recognizing controllers yet?

[lavish jacinth]

doesn't seem like it

[woeful fog]

@lavish jacinth @past monolith Alright thx you two, then there goes the final question;

Which dlc I should buy, What do you suggest in YOUR oppinion?

[lavish jacinth]

like I said, I'd lean towards SotV

[past monolith]

idk ive been on sots since like 2 days

so probably sotv for me

[lavish jacinth]

overall SotV has a bigger impact on normal gameplay

[woeful fog]

Alright, Thx yall, Btw, I'm on 25 hours, completed every character challenge, You reccomend me buy the dlc early while its in the steam sale?

[past monolith]

yeah isnt it on sale rn

[lavish jacinth]

more items, more monsters, more "normal" stages, new mechanics, and void items

yeah, they're both on sale atm

oh, and SotV also adds a new game mode, although most people don't care about it lol. It's just an endless wave mode

[past monolith]

oh right i forgot that exists

[woeful fog]

Aight, thank you both @past monolith / @lavish jacinth Maybe years later, I'll come back here to ask if the SotS is worth it, lmao

[lavish jacinth]

SotS IS worth it, I'd just recommend void first if you can only choose one

[past monolith]

in its current state its worth id say

yeah true

[lavish jacinth]

I guess you could also wait a few days and see when the next dlc is coming out, but it might be a few weeks or months before it does

but it's supposed to be really good, at least according to a few content creators who got early access to it iirc

[woeful fog]

I'd like to, but welp.. Sales going down early :)

[pallid mirage]

Never knew the level cap was 94

[lavish jacinth]

yep

at that point the amount of xp required to level up is higher than the integer limit

[primal prism]

if cleansing pool spawns stage 1 does that mean there is a lunar pod on the stage?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[drifting reef]

best lunar items with loader?

[primal prism]

purity is solid

[lavish jacinth]

the usual stuff like are all good as always, can be nice if you're not using her primary at all, can be alright as long as you don't mind the long chargeup on her utility

[lavish jacinth]

purity works but probably isn't worth it unless you don't have any proc items

total damage procs are good on loader like they are on everyone else

oh yeah, and Loader is one of the only survivors that can actually use (the other being false son) since grapple speed isn't affected by move speed, although I'm not sure I'd really call it "good" on her lol

[pallid mirage]

I've never gotten the green band item, is there a way to unlock it or something

[steady stone]

Yeah, in aqueduct. There's 2 pressure plates that need hit simultaneously to open a gate, and the elder lems drop them and unlock them for future runs

Can be done with like, , , multiplayer, beacons, lunar coins

[quasi topaz]

Don't forget pylons

[ebon fern]

how many stages does it typically take for to spawn? (Monsoon)

[last cosmos]

so, seekers of the storm had a boss that became a playable character, will alloyed collective have stuff like that, or do we not know yet?

[last cosmos]

the earliest one for me was stage ten

[ebon fern]

So do you think i would encounter one by the 20th stage at least?

[last cosmos]

yes

[lavish jacinth]

what difficulty are you on?

[last cosmos]

me?

[ebon fern]

Monsoon

[lavish jacinth]

we don't know

[last cosmos]

okay thanks

[lavish jacinth]

in that case you can start getting them semi-frequently around stage 8 or 9

around the same time you start seeing scavengers

[ebon fern]

alrighty

[past monolith]

what does runic lens do since im kinda stupid and dont fully understand the description

[past monolith]

is it like dealing more damage increases the proc chance and damage of the meteor?

[crisp timber]

that's literally exactly what it does, yes

[lyric karma]

don't know if this is a forbidden question but I would love to have someone help me get mercenary and show me some tips to play the game

[sour charm]

Does anyone know good items for mul-t

[crisp timber]

1. depends on the build. Proc is generally just always good - ATG, Uke, sticky bombs, as is general damage - watch, chronic expansion. Crowbar is good on rebar, syringe is good on nailgun and a singular syringe is basically necessary on double rebar
2. movement is always good 👍

[hoary sedge]

also is always good, and the other crit items like work really well on double nailgun

[dark goblet]

What about 57 leaf clover?

[lapis flint]

engineer with very cool

[lavish jacinth]

Clover is always good

[lavish jacinth]

If you're looking for someone to play with then you can try the lfg channels, #lfg-pc-ror2 or whatever platform you're on. But if you just want advice then we can help

[warm lantern]

whens the next dlc 😭

[primal vector]

The next friday we will get the release date

[quick halo]

what do i do after i activate the newt shrine

cuz i cant find the blue orv

only one surrounding the tele

[quasi topaz]

After activating the mewt shrine a blue orb will appear. After completing the teleporter event a blue portal will appear allowing you to go to the bazaar

[ebon fern]

does remove all crit from lens makers?

[frosty reef]

yeah consumes all

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't remove crits entirely though, you can still get crit chance from other sources

[ebon fern]

this happens almost every time to me istg 😭

i have no idea how he killed me there

i think an aoe from one of my drones if i had to guess

swarms may just be a bit busted when facing him i think

[quick halo]

what happens if i do the teleporter event first then activate it

[quasi topaz]

Nothing, you just wasted a lunar coin

[quick halo]

bruh

[ebon fern]

do all the stuff you want to do on a stage before activating the teleporter, because otherwise nothing will happen, or you just wont be able to

[nimble panther]

im in wetland aspect AND WHY IS IT ALL JUST GUP

[fair rock]

Oh lmfao that family event can spawn in Wetland?

Well uh, you just stumbled into a family event! A stage with a family event just spawns one family of enemy types. In this case the Gup family event only spawns Gup, Geep and Gip

Your TP boss is also changed to a Horde of Many if they don't have a boss enemy in that family

(Some families have bosses in it. For example, the Wisp family event has the Grovetender as the boss)

[nimble panther]

gup

[raw stump]

Family events, it makes it so only one type / family of enemies spawns per stage

[dapper bison]

strawbb

burry

[woeful fog]

How to get to the void crab boss?

[lavish jacinth]

there are 3 ways

1. complete void fields and go through the void portal that spawns (NOT the null portal)
2. get a random void portal to spawn while looping
3. beat mithrix, run back to the starting room, and pet the secret frog 10 times

[woeful fog]

Does the void portal sends me straight to the boss

[lavish jacinth]

the frog method arguably being the best as it takes you straight to voidling, while the other two methods make you go through another stage first

[astral heath]

do hermit crabs spawn on stage 6 verdant falls?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[astral heath]

RAAAH so frustrating. well thanky you

i forgot to go to the bazaar between time to guarantee titanic plains or whjatever its called

im trying to get the kill 20 hermit crab achievement

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that one sucks

[astral heath]

i think i've got like 15 ish out of 20?

its the last item i need to unlock

[lavish jacinth]

at least once you actually get to stage 6 plains it's not hard, just tedious and pointless

[astral heath]

right

well thank you for the help!

[eternal quarry]

guys whats the best equipment for an equipment drone

[quasi topaz]

Off the top of my head or any utility equipment other than movement ones

[short bolt]

Is there any items that neglect fall dmg?

[quasi topaz]

makes you fall damage immune

[short bolt]

Thanks

[eternal quarry]

thank you

[lavish jacinth]

very loosely in that order

[quasi topaz]

Also if you activate it closer to the ground

[lavish jacinth]

are also good but only have

[quasi topaz]

I love preon being both better and worse than missiles

[lavish jacinth]

lol

[lavish jacinth]

woodsprite on equipment drones is kinda garbage tho

[quasi topaz]

Does it not ping it onto you

[lavish jacinth]

in order for them to use it on an ally, that ally has to be between them and whatever the drone is aiming at, and they tend to call it back right away

they treat everything you give them as a weapon

it technically works but it's definitely not one of the best things to give them

[glacial knoll]

equipment drones dont change ai depending on equipment, they just fire it at enemies exclusively

[quasi topaz]

hopefully the ai for equipment drones gets improved in ac on top of general improvements

[lavish jacinth]

I'm pretty sure their AI is basically just a gunner drone but their primary is replaced with Q

[glacial knoll]

they dont have abilities actually lol

using equips just a bool tho yeah

[short bolt]

What’s the best healing item for acrid?

[lavish jacinth]

same healing items that are good on basically anyone else, + healing drones

[short bolt]

Thanks

Is there any red item I should try for?

[lavish jacinth]

is pretty good for Acrid since it'll buff poison, but otherwise just usual good stuff + any sots reds

[short bolt]

Thanks

[stoic bobcat]

can i get merc as goku

or unlock him as goku

[lavish jacinth]

mods don't prevent unlocks

so yes

[viral sorrel]

theres no voided enemies on the map and it wont collapse

[lavish jacinth]

if you pan your camera around it might show an arrow pointing to the last void enemy, but unfortunately there is an occasional bug where it's impossible to complete

[viral sorrel]

i know ive been doing the camera thing and nothing

it sucks cause the legendary chest is inside there and i have sale star

[lavish jacinth]

rip

[dusky raven]

I mean, it’s not impossible to go get it just because there’s a void seed

[quasi topaz]

if a chest is in a void seed it cannot be opened hence the purple circles around it

could bypass with the devtoolkit mod by spawning the chest in

[dusky raven]

You know, I don’t know how I forgot about that

[tender temple]

Are you absolutely sure there are no enemies left?

No marker at all?

[stoic bobcat]

does ror2 update frequently and are updates consists of just addign dlcs? im new to this community and im curious
and do they also have roadmaps?

[lavish jacinth]

it's kinda inconsistent, usually there'll be a period of updates after a dlc comes out, and then a big update gap while they work on the next dlc (if there is one)

but that's from a sample size of only 2 dlcs, and the sots launch was kind of a special case

also no roadmap

[cosmic wadi]

Hey guys, probably dumb question about the EULA, do I need to accept it to continue playing the game? I haven't played ROR2 ever since the introduction of it, and I don't really like that the Gearbox/Take Two has recently introduced it in other games like RORR and ROR1. The one thing that irks me a bit is forced arbitration, from what I'm reading from other people, there's otherwise nothing against modding or any personal data correction if I understand correctly?

[quiet cosmos]

Can lockboxes from Rusted Keys (and caches from corrupted variant) spawn in Gilded Coast?

[high forum]

if you want to play, you need to accept the eula

[mellow crystal]

You technically do need to accept it iirc but it doesn't really matter as long as the devs don't bother to enforce it, and they're chill so they won't
By technicality, mods are not allowed according to the EULA, but the game has been under EULA for 2-3 months now iirc and mods are still here

It's really just a generic EULA pushed out by Take Two

But games like GTA and shit are also under take two and you aren't seeing people suffering from the EULA there

[high forum]

and the shit about forced arbitration is not uncommon or weird lol

[quiet cosmos]

(I would say - I loathe forced arbitration clauses.)

[high forum]

sure, i agree. but they're common.

[quiet cosmos]

But my question stands, any caches in guilded coast?

[cosmic wadi]

Fair, it's more like if I ever also wanted to make a game that was inspired by ROR2, would that ever be enforced

[high forum]

oh i don't think caches from keys will spawn

uhhh

[cosmic wadi]

I don't think they do either in Gilded Coast

[high forum]

i mean, if you ripped off the game and started making money on it or trying to sell it, they would definitely c&d you lol

[steady stone]

Inspired? You're always fine, put your own vision into it. Taking stuff? That's like always a copyright thing

[high forum]

that isn't any different now than it was 5-6 years ago though lol

[quiet cosmos]

You can't copyright game mechanics. So long as you use different names, don't reuse assets, it should be relatively fine.

[steady stone]

That's less of a Eula thing, since I can take your assets without playing your game or being a user

[steady stone]

Ah, sadly you can.

[high forum]

you can actually lol

[steady stone]

Like monsters coming out of balls, is copyrighted by pokemon

Or "fighters", not monsters

[cosmic wadi]

Thanks guys, I think that puts me a bit more at ease, I can finally actually just enjoy playing ROR again lol

[steady stone]

I really doubt risk of rain has anything specific enough to be copyrighted either, luckily
You cant copyright like, the concept of stuff in chests

[mellow crystal]

I guess the director system is pretty ror2 but that's more of an extremely technical part of the game anyway

[steady stone]

You couldn't recreate that jank if you tried 😭

[mellow crystal]

Like if you asked someone to name all of ror2's game mechanics I don't think they'd list the director

[cosmic wadi]

fair, i guess as long as my game literally isn't "woah my mercenaries are on a foreign planet and they need to kill these whacky aliens for chests that require money to open" then i suppose it's fine

[lavish jacinth]

even that's probably vague enough that it wouldn't really be copyright-infringing

like, that basically described borderlands too, lol

...which gearbox also owns so I guess it doesn't count but still

[quiet cosmos]

Is there a more throw item than benthic bloom? Every time I pick one up by accident because I'm in a rush I know I'll be dead next stage 😭

[lavish jacinth]

well if you're in such a hurry that you can't even stop to look at the name of an item before picking it up, then you're definitely rushing way too much lol

[steady stone]

Eulogy zero ig?

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah benthic is weird

the only time it's really worth picking up is if your run is already circling the drain and you need a hail mary to maybe save it

[steady stone]

There's an item inspect setting too! For info on ping

[quiet cosmos]

eulogy may mess up items spawns for next stage, but it doesn't ruin your build...

[lavish jacinth]

and even then egocentrism is probably better as a universal run-fixer, or just lunars in general

or at least more reliable

[quiet cosmos]

Nah I was just rushing because I was under fire and trying to make haste. eclipse 8 is stressful 😓

Losing warped echo and mochas, getting... prayer beads and breaching fins.

how is mocha going into beads, and warped into breaching?

warped is sup, breaching is dps?

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, those are potentially good too, although beads are gonna be pretty weak since you might not get to scrap them before benthic turns them into something else.
Breaching fin can be really strong tho

[steady stone]

Some have multiple categories

Like harvesters is damage and healing, so you could go tritips into harv into aegis

[lavish jacinth]

mocha is damage/utility iirc so it could become breaching since it's also damage
warped is utility, idk what beads is but it's probably also damage/utility

[quiet cosmos]

no, mocha became prayer beads, warped echo became breaching fins

[steady stone]

They're probably all utility then?

[lavish jacinth]

oh huh, apparently fin is also utlity

probably leftover from knockback fin

[steady stone]

Breaching boosts other damage sources so it makes sense

[lavish jacinth]

it's not even tagged as damage if the wiki is to be believed

[quiet cosmos]

I wish I could ban benthic bloom from showing up, is there a mod that prevents item pick ups? I would maybe play with that one, just blacklist benthic

[lavish jacinth]

I might have dementia but I'm pretty sure void items don't auto-pickup unless you already have a stack, similar to lunars. So just don't hit e lol

or whatever your interact button is

[steady stone]

I know there's an ItemBlacklist mod, but that might just be the enemy blacklist? Like how enemies can't have Tesla

But getting items you don't want is part of the challenge too!

It's what makes recycler so good

[lavish jacinth]

or just stop and look at the item before grabbing it, if you're running from enemies you could always circle back for it.
If you're doing e8 it's kinda better to open void cradles after everything is already dead anyway, so the hard damage doesn't screw you over

[quiet cosmos]

They don't. I mean one that would remove the option.

[hoary sedge]

there is an item blacklist mod

so you can stop it from showing up in the first place

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

I'd be surprised if there's one that just prevents you from picking up a certain item though, that's probably a little too specific

considering you can just like, look at it and decide not to pick it up

[kindred herald]

How have you accidentally picked up benthic in a rush multiple times

[stoic bobcat]

do i need to be in normal place not golden place for it or is the cele portal %

it didnt spawn for me at stage 8

[short bolt]

Is there a way to see the elite versions of creature I wanna see the different types in detail

[steady stone]

Visually? You can use the DebugToolKit mod to spawn bodies, which are enemies with no AI
For their effects, the wiki.gg should have an "elites" page

Also the PhotoMode mod, to see them from other angles

[short bolt]

No way in game dam they should add that

I’m on console sadly

[cinder pasture]

what are the best items for merc with purity?

[steady stone]

Gilded Coast doesn't have a teleporter, so I believe the celestial orb wouldn't spawn

[steady stone]

If you're using eviscerate, youre already invincible, so any damage items that don't rely on chance

Such as

[mellow crystal]

Damage mostly, with a bit of the other standard stuff (healing, mobility)

[stoic bobcat]

by golden place i meant the one u go in with green portal mb

[cinder pasture]

what are the all the damage items

[short bolt]

These are good for heals

[mellow crystal]

are your main focuses
also works

Oh and chronic expansion but that shouldn't be your main source of damage

[steady stone]

Once your OSP procs, you can dash away with your no cooldown dash to heal

If they hit you as youre activating evis

[stoic bobcat]

?

[steady stone]

Golden Dieback?

iirc that's the stage name at least

[stoic bobcat]

idrk whats it called but can it spawn?

[steady stone]

Any stage 3 after a loop should be valid

If there's still that old bug where something offsets the stage count, that could put the schedule off?

[lavish jacinth]

it wouldn't shock me if the colossus stages don't get a celestial portal because sots jank

[steady stone]

I feel like I've seen one before, but who knows

[lavish jacinth]

they should have it but idk

[stoic bobcat]

im just tryna get it its a 110m run so far

[steady stone]

You can loop to the next stage 3 quickly, to test again

[stoic bobcat]

OK

[steady stone]

So stage 13

[stoic bobcat]

kk

[lavish jacinth]

for purity builds, really anything that increases damage that doesn't rely on random chance. So direct multipliers like Goobessa mentioned, attack speed, bands, behemoth, stuff like that

crits and bleed can work but only if you stack enough to get 100% proc chance

[lavish jacinth]

wungus yes, bungus not so much
there's no reason you should be standing still as merc (or anyone really) unless there are no enemies around and/or bungus is your only source of healing

[stoic bobcat]

bruh

it didnt spawn again

at stage 13 rn

[short bolt]

Do fuel cells affect equipment drones?

[lavish jacinth]

which map?

[lavish jacinth]

no, but they have 80% cooldown reduction built in

[short bolt]

Ah ok

What does cracking the geodes do besides help in the false son fight

[stoic bobcat]

sscorched

[lavish jacinth]

cleanses debuffs

[stoic bobcat]

Scorched Acres

[lavish jacinth]

it should've definitely spawned then

look around, sometimes it appears in weird spots on scorched

[stoic bobcat]

the msg itself didnt pop up

[steady stone]

also works for interaction items, such as squid polyp and fireworks

[mellow crystal]

Cleanses debuffs and gives you a bunch of barrier

[stoic bobcat]

isnt there a

msg that pops up that says cele portal open

[steady stone]

cracking all of the geodes up to the arena gives you an item at the cauldron area too

[lavish jacinth]

weird

[stoic bobcat]

whats the requirements of mercs

like full requirements

[mellow crystal]

Enter the celestial portal and do the ending there

[steady stone]

obliterate, that's about it

[stoic bobcat]

doesnt appear

[steady stone]

the only requirement for celestial is just the stage so

[stoic bobcat]

didnt appear

[lavish jacinth]

it should've, it's supposed to be on the 3rd stage of every loop

[stoic bobcat]

ok uh

[tired pulsar]

You can also beat the game on Monsoon I believe as well to get Merc. I remember them adding an alternative to the Obelisk

[steady stone]

No, that's obliterate or beat the game for the skins

[tired pulsar]

Oh right

[stoic bobcat]

im on ecplise and at stage 13 and it didnt appear or spawn so far

[steady stone]

ah yeah

[lavish jacinth]

and mastery skins require monsoon either way

[steady stone]

the only way to win on eclipse is mithrix

[tired pulsar]

Also the celestial portal is every 7 or 8 stages I believe

[lavish jacinth]

OH
yeah, you don't get celestial portals on eclipse

mithrix is the only ending you can get

[stoic bobcat]

💔 no way i did 2 hours just to end up with this

[steady stone]

merc is worth it!!

[tired pulsar]

Merc also has one of the most annoying skill challenges in the game.

[steady stone]

ah yeah, if you go for unlocks we have Cabbage in #prismatic-trials

[lavish jacinth]

you could just speedrun to stage 8 on drizzle as Loader to get it quickly
(Loader even has an unlock for doing that)

[tired pulsar]

Took me 5 hours once a trial of glass finally appeared for Prismatic.

And honestly. I don't know if I even like the alternative skill over the standard one

[steady stone]

every single prismatic trial, his first message here from 2019 is about prismatic trials...
i dont know how he does it

[stoic bobcat]

augh

[lavish jacinth]

speedrunners are just the most motivated people on earth for some reason

[stoic bobcat]

ok uh

ion think i got the spirit to redo it again

[steady stone]

take plenty of breaks, it takes a good few hours to 100% the game!

[stoic bobcat]

is there like a charc in mods that is extremely op 😭 ?

[tired pulsar]

Bro just do a standard run, put it on Drizzle. And speed rush to stage 8

[steady stone]

if you do wanna unlock stuff, there's RealerCheatUnlocks, but it would probably feel bad in the long run to cheat that stuff

[stoic bobcat]

kk

[lavish jacinth]

There are characters in vanilla that are OP

[steady stone]

there's like 2 achievements that i would say people dont always have regrets for cheating, and the merc unlock is not one haha

[lavish jacinth]

like I said, might as well do the loader unlock at the same time

[stoic bobcat]

ion like loaders playstyle but i fw that railgun dude

[tired pulsar]

cough railgunner cough

[lavish jacinth]

...what about her

[tired pulsar]

She's really good

[steady stone]

yeah, she's in the list

[tired pulsar]

Loader is great if you want survivability early on.

[lavish jacinth]

or later on

Loader is just kinda untouchable if you're good at her

[tired pulsar]

The barrier from just beating up enemies comes in clutch while gambling for healing items

[lavish jacinth]

you don't even need the barrier, just be too fast to hit

[stoic bobcat]

its ok

[cinder pasture]

what can i improve, merc

[stoic bobcat]

ima use goku to unlock merc

[steady stone]

she has built in armor too, 20

[tired pulsar]

Oh yeah. Speed demon build is great on Loader

[steady stone]

RealerCheatUnlocks will let you simply right click it, if you would like to do it faster

[lavish jacinth]

more purity, might as well get all your cooldowns down to minimum

[steady stone]

also right click to lock it again, if you wanna unlock it normally

[lavish jacinth]

and some watches maybe

[lavish jacinth]

don't even need to build for it, that's just how she is by default lol

movement speed doesn't affect her grapple anyway

[tired pulsar]

That would be nice if I had access to it. But I had to unlock everything the funtacular way

[tired pulsar]

It doesn't. But going into the grapple while running at mach 5 is funny af

[steady stone]

it's best to do that, but i dont think goku would be much faster than like, huntress haha

[stoic bobcat]

goku will make it fun to do

thx tho
i knew its something about the difficuilty being ecplise

just wished i knew b4 120mins

[tired pulsar]

That's Risk of Rain sometimes.

I've spent a lot of time in the wrong place or mode trying to unlock stuff.

[lavish jacinth]

with enough experience you just become numb to all the bullshit in these kinds of games

[short bolt]

this only stacks 3 times right?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[short bolt]

Dam

This run is so stacked rn

Artifact of command is so fun

How much should I be stacking tougher times

[lavish jacinth]

around 7 is a good place to stop, usually. That gives you about 50% block chance, and the returns are very small after that

[short bolt]

What if I have the void item the same still?

[lavish jacinth]

in that case they stack way better, they cap at 65 with a 1-frame cooldown

[short bolt]

Ok bet

Is that enough to survive the void area

The purple portal I mean

[lavish jacinth]

you can't block void fog or the implosions that void enemies create when they die, but you'll be pretty much immune to everything else

[short bolt]

It’s so hard trying not to get one shot

[lavish jacinth]

you aren't completely invincible with a 1 frame cooldown but you'd have to try to die at that point

[short bolt]

If I get do my drones get it to?

[lavish jacinth]

no, drones don't inherit items

[short bolt]

Ohh only the engineers do?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, only his turrets. But they're different from normal drones

[short bolt]

Ok I see

Cuz when I activate the void thing it kills them ha

[lavish jacinth]

are you in void locus?

[short bolt]

Not yet

Im going for the 20 stages achievements then going for the voidling boss

[lavish jacinth]

ah

well, say goodbye to your drones once you do get to vlocus/voidling lol

[short bolt]

Yea

My poor children😭

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, they all gonna die

locus is a deathtrap for drones

[short bolt]

yea lol

[lavish jacinth]

also, no drone parts? or did droneman just not spawn because of the minion cap lol

[short bolt]

I do not know ngl

Drone parts look like what again?

[lavish jacinth]

[short bolt]

Ohhh

No I could’ve got it I just didn’t know that’s what it did tbh

[lavish jacinth]

just saying, if you're getting that many drones on a command run with engineer, drone parts is one of the most broken items you could get lol

[short bolt]

Imma look for it I’m only on stage 11 I believe

[lavish jacinth]

it's one of the most busted items in the game lol, you'll see

[short bolt]

I will let u know when I find a red item

[lavish jacinth]

well you'll get a guaranteed one on the next stage 4 so

[short bolt]

There’s nothing that increases the log books huh?

[short bolt]

I took a green portal

[lavish jacinth]

or stack 5 to use the bazaar cauldron for free

[lavish jacinth]

clover does

[short bolt]

Oooo bet

[lavish jacinth]

you'll still get to do stage 4

[short bolt]

Oh ok cool

Yk what’s kinda weird

Is that I got almost no equipment drones

[short bolt]

@lavish jacinth we got to 61 tougher times

[uneven crow]

Is there a guide on what to build on each Survivor? I know it's contextual but in general

[lavish jacinth]

There are probably guides on youtube, but ror2 builds are pretty straightforward, most survivors fall into the category of being either proc or burst, or somewhere in between

proc survivors have high proc rates with lowish damage, like , and they favor on-hit effects and attack speed, with bleed being especially noteworthy.

burst survivors are the opposite with high damage per hit but low attack speed like , and they prefer reliable damage multipliers like

[short bolt]

Search on YouTube

[lavish jacinth]

there is some overlap ofc, and total damage procs like AtG tend to be good on everyone (although proc survivors do tend to get more value out of them on average)

and some stuff is just intuitive like for melee survivors

and in general it's best to mix up your items and get a bit of everything, since item effects tend to build on each other

[uneven crow]

yeah I learned about proc coeff, but for example Rex idk if he's considered a proc survivor or not

[lavish jacinth]

he leans towards proc yeah

[uneven crow]

just because of the M2 rain? or M1 also good proc

[lavish jacinth]

most of his dps comes from his m2 but his m1 does help

he's more in the middle of the spectrum but he's more on the proc side

I'd say that ~1000% damage is the threshold for being considered a burst survivor, and most of their damage will come from those really big hits. (As opposed to someone like Captain with diablo strike, who CAN do massive bursts of damage but still mostly relies on procs)

[uneven crow]

oh ok thanks

I'm struggle to determine good item when they're not fairly obvious. Like Bandit M1, is it proc? Merc, besides Focus Crystal, ...

[lavish jacinth]

if it's small, rapid hits with decent dps, it's probably proc

Although if you're using his alt special, then Bandit can actually sorta do both, depending on what items you get. You can build him for procs with his primary and burst with his special

[wintry crag]

whats an easy way to get the False Son's alt special ?

[lavish jacinth]

Artifact of swarms + kin, get gather up a bunch of wisps and laser em

don't forget that you need to charge the laser if you want it to actually deal damage

[lavish jacinth]

And these are just guidelines btw, not hard rules. In practice you'll be at the mercy of rng (unless command), but you can usually make do with whatever the game gives you

you might be playing loader but the game will give you a bunch of tritips and other proc stuff, but you can make that work with stuff like

[short bolt]

We got a problem

[lavish jacinth]

what am I even looking at

[wintry crag]

it HAS to be from the laser right? I cant use gasoline

[short bolt]

Our family is gone

[short bolt]

A laggy mess of 173 minutes of gameplay

[lavish jacinth]

pretty sure yeah

[short bolt]

177

[lavish jacinth]

artifact of glass can also help

[short bolt]

My Xbox is melting into my table

Stage 40

Huh for some reason I’m doing the alter challenge in wet land aspect and the skeleton is not there?

@lavish jacinth

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the skeleton is a one-time thing, if you already broke it then it won't spawn

[short bolt]

But I never broke it be4

Like I don’t have it

[lavish jacinth]

hm

well that sucks

there's an occasional bug where the skeleton can get destroyed without going in the tunnel, usually if you have a really big aoe like gasoline

normally that SHOULD give you the achievement, but sometimes it just doesn't

[short bolt]

Hmm I have 12 gas

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that would do it

[short bolt]

Well dam

[lavish jacinth]

but you don't have the achiev for it?

[short bolt]

Nah

[lavish jacinth]

rip

the only workaround that might work is playing with someone else who's never broken the skeleton, and trying to see if that makes it spawn. But I have no idea if that actually works

I can't test it because afaik the bug doesn't happen on PC

[short bolt]

Alr I’m ending this run

Voidling time

Hmmmm

[lavish jacinth]

congrats, you found the integer limit

[short bolt]

nice

[hushed raven]

dead space ass economy

[short bolt]

I don’t know what’s going on

Help

[lavish jacinth]

you're on your own bro

[short bolt]

I can’t see anything 😭😭😭😭

[full harbor]

do you have mods downloaded?

[short bolt]

No I’m on console

[full harbor]

I've never seen this before, but I play way more PC than console

can you send a screenshot of the entire screen?

and explain what happened leading up to it

[short bolt]

Before this I did the mithrix fight and my screen would go black often is I moved the camera

I’m just getting revived by dios best friend constantly

[full harbor]

and after Mithrix you went to fight Voidling?

[short bolt]

Yea

[full harbor]

did this happen right after going through the portal or after a phase or two

[short bolt]

Right after

Somehow I killed him and got to a. Stage

But I was just shooting blindlessly

[full harbor]

what console is this?

[short bolt]

Now it’s laggy real bad

Xbox

[full harbor]

its probably just a software issue from a long loop run

[short bolt]

Think imma let it rest for some times

Probably

Or it’s from me having it on for around 3 hours long

[full harbor]

how hot is the console?

[short bolt]

It’s definitely warm

I could get a thermometer

[full harbor]

I doubt thats necessary

make sure the fans have ample access to air and wait a bit

[short bolt]

I got a fan on it rn

[short bolt]

Said 100 lol

[full harbor]

well I think you won ror2

playing until the game breaks is equivalent to a win in my eyes

[short bolt]

Yeah this is probably my longest run

I wanna see how much stuff I unlocked at the end

All the logs etc

[lavish jacinth]

I hope that's fahrenheit lmao

[short bolt]

Yea lol

Well I think this just shows how powerful artifact of command is

[zinc gate]

does anyone know if i can recover one of my runs if the game crashes?

[lavish jacinth]

if you had the propersave mod installed then you should be able to, otherwise no

[zinc gate]

dang alr thanks for the help

[short bolt]

@lavish jacinth @full harbor it is time to see

And it has not fixed 🥲

[full harbor]

It's a shame but the expected outcome

[short bolt]

Yeah

[marble magnet]

How does seed of life work with emgi turrets?

[mild eagle]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't work

[marble magnet]

It did

Just found out

Unless that was the Elxer

Elixir

Nope it does work

[dapper bison]

Rip

[cinder pasture]

does this build just lose damage fast? after a while i stopped gaining damage, purity doesnt seem like much benefit besides complete invincibility

[glacial knoll]

it's coded to check for "if you have it" instead of "if you can activate it" for self revive

so it just works lol

[cinder pasture]

wait is hooks of heracy actually good on merc?

[glacial knoll]

Hooks of Heresy is a really good ability but probably would feel a bit weird on merc

if you can make it work then it's good

[cinder pasture]

does c dagger and icbm work together?

is there a way to get rid of iridescent pearl?

[uneven crow]

How do you decide between Needletick and Tri-tip Dagger; Lens-Maker and Lost Seer?

[cinder pasture]

Just me so others might dis agree.

I hate lost seers.
If have a few tri tip I don’t take needle tick

[south egret]

depending on your character, seers is a direct upgrade. It comes down to how much proc power you have, and if you're dealing enough damage to warrant only wanting double damage versus a low chance instakill

tick vs tri-tip is tricky, because tri-tip is objectively better at high stacks, so if you find a printer or something, keep the tri-tips. But if you're going into stage 5 and only have one tri-tip, picking up a tick is probably a good idea

personally, seers on chef is an instant pick up

even at 4 stacks, seers procced nearly every time I needed it to

[south egret]

oh, also if you have full crit and a shatterspleen and you find a needletick, it is no longer possible to have two bleed stacks every hit from tri-tip + spleen, so picking up tick is better

[cinder pasture]

The only and I mean only time I would ever pick it up is on captain if I have little damage items. Lost seers

[south egret]

true

[cinder pasture]

I’ve never picked up an item more then felt buyers remorse for my 50 health after losing my 100 crit chance more than lost seers

[south egret]

lol
understandable

[uneven crow]

So Seer is more of a run saver if you don't have enough dmg then?

[cinder pasture]

Only if you have lots of hits to get procs OR high proc coefficient

Like captain has a proc coefficient of 6 so it can work on him

On his m1

[hoary sedge]

that is not how proc coefficients work lmao

[cinder pasture]

Isn’t it

Am I thinking of something else

[south egret]

he has an 8x0.75 proc rate
which is an important distinction

[hoary sedge]

no each pellet has a 0.75

a 0.75 co rolled 8 times is VERY different from a 6.0 proc co

[south egret]

a 6.0 proc coefficient means it procs once, multiplying the chance by 6
an 8x0.75 means it procs 8 times, multiplying the chance by 75%

[cinder pasture]

How much does it diverge

[glacial knoll]

Seers is kinda always terrible at 1 stack but with multiple stacks it can get going

[south egret]

I don't know how to graph it exactly, but just think about it: it's one proc, with extremely high chance, versus eight procs, with a lower than average chance

on average, they are similar, but there's a lot of cases where they aren't

[hoary sedge]

so with atg, a 6.0 coeff has a 60% chance to activate it, but 0.75 * 8 only has a 46% chance to activate it at least once

[cinder pasture]

Is that just 1-(.9)^6?

[glacial knoll]

yeah

[hoary sedge]

yeah the website I use has it in a different form but should be the same

[uneven crow]

I heard Race said he rather build Eviscerate with Tick rather than Bleed, I wonder why

[south egret]

what's the different form?

[cinder pasture]

Then how does captains work. Each mullet is a separate?

[south egret]

people have their own opininons

[south egret]

yes

[glacial knoll]

Merc doesnt seem like the biggest proccer but bleed definitely could on him

[uneven crow]

Yeah I know, I'm asking more about the logic behind it

[glacial knoll]

Needletick is never bad anyways it's a underrated item if anything

[south egret]

the big bonus of tick is that you don't need to babysit it like bleed, so maybe he's saying he likes proccing something a lot, and then not having to move on from it

[frosty reef]

its hard to keep applying bleed stacks after your eviscerate goes on cooldown so might as well use needletick, obviously might change your mind

[south egret]

0.075 should be 0.75
it's a 75% coefficient, not a 7.5% coefficient

[cinder pasture]

I think it works great with him. You def get enough procs