ror2-game-questions

[quasi topaz]

Should be 10 but its good to stop at 7 or 8 since there are other items that give crit rate that are good to pick up

[marble magnet]

Oki

[lavish jacinth]

Crit chance isn't affected by proc coeff btw

[marble magnet]

It's not? 😭

[lavish jacinth]

Nope

Things can either crit or they can't

[fallen bridge]

though items that use crits are based on proc coeff, like

[lavish jacinth]

Generally if something can proc then it can also crit, but they're separate systems

[marble magnet]

Oke

Another question again

Brittle crown does indeed affect solitude yes?

[lavish jacinth]

iirc yeah

[marble magnet]

Okee

Sorry for asking so much pointless questions :W; I'm just curious I guess

[lavish jacinth]

it's fine, it's what the channel is for lol

[quasi crystal]

How do I use m&k on ror2 xbox addition

[lavish jacinth]

idk if you can, but #ror2-console-discussion might know

[quasi crystal]

I already put it there, but no response :/

[lavish jacinth]

could try regular discussion

last I heard, you can't use mkb on consoles at all, but that was a while ago so it might've been fixed at some point

[quasi crystal]

Yeah, but i'm not trying to spam everything, you know.I've already put it in three channels

[fallen bridge]

i do not think m&k is supported on console but it used to be supported

[quasi crystal]

It just depends on the game

[lavish jacinth]

I mean with ror2

[quasi crystal]

Ah

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it was at one point but it broke with the rebuild I think

[autumn thunder]

Chat how does one get bands in game

[balmy stirrup]

i heard it worked on current gen, ps5 & xbox, is that wrong?

[lavish jacinth]

on abandoned aqueduct, there are two pressure plates hidden around the map that have to be weighed down at the same time in order to open a door. Easiest way to do it in singleplayer is with engineer turrets, but captain beacons and can also do it pretty easily

once you go through the door you just have to fight an extremely easy miniboss

[autumn thunder]

I see I see

Would the tesla thingy for loader be able to do that?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, although it's a little awkward

[autumn thunder]

Nice

thanks dude

[lavish jacinth]

the plates are kinda hard to spot but the wiki has pictures of all the spawn locations if you need it https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Abandoned_Aqueduct

[autumn thunder]

I shall be studying this because I SUCK at making loader good

[lavish jacinth]

she's got a bit of a learning curve, yeah. It's all about the grapple movement

[autumn thunder]

Im alright with the grapple for a console player but it's mostly my build making that sucks penis

[prime frigate]

Hey, I need some recommendations for braindead builds/item combos to work into my current sludge of bad ideas.

[lavish jacinth]

well if you want something totally braindead, start with and add whatever you want onto that, the game will pretty much play itself

[prime frigate]

Noted

[lavish jacinth]

is always a solid starting point for a burst/melee character, but really anything that multiplies damage in some way is gonna be good, like crits or total damage procs. is also really nice on her for the added movement

and remember that it's always better to mix different items so their effects can build on eachother, instead of just stacking a handful of specific things

[autumn thunder]

Thanks man this is great advice

[hoary sedge]

fmp builds are also pretty braindead once they get rolling

so chronic and whatever else on kill stuff you want

[prime frigate]

Bet

Do drone parts affect void allies spawned by the newly hatched zoea

[hoary sedge]

nope

they do affect goobo jr if you use it on mult rex or chef though

[lavish jacinth]

or an equipment drone

[prime frigate]

Ok

[warped glacier]

I dont know if this is the right place to ask but are there music sheets for the soundtrack?

[fallen bridge]

for ror1/rorr, you get sheets for all of the ror1 tracks (none of the new rorr tracks) in the both the engineer edition & album purchase
for ror2, you get sheets for "con lentitud poderosa" & "the rain formerly known as purple" in both the engineer edition & album purchase

[warped glacier]

Ty

[clear whale]

there's also "stems"

basically isolated instrumentals

[candid loom]

What does hemorrhage do? What's the difference between that and bleed?

[dusky raven]

Hemorrhage is just better bleed I believe

and only Bandit has it

[lavish jacinth]

^

[candid loom]

Alright sweet. It just sucks how few times I'm able to actually slash someone's back

[lavish jacinth]

specifically it deals 2000% base damage over 15s, and adding a stack increases damage and resets its timer like bleed

[candid loom]

Oh hell yeah

[lavish jacinth]

if you're going for the achievement, alloy worship unit is a good target for it

getting 20 stacks is easy with how long the duration is, you just need an enemy that can tank the damage for long enough. Hence AWU

[candid loom]

I just started today so I'm just trying to learn some of the mechanics and stuff

[lavish jacinth]

ah

well you're in the right place for that, the wiki is also really helpful (specifically wiki.gg, not the fandom one)

[candid loom]

Now that I'm actually trying to slash the back it's easy to get a hemorrhage or 2 on a single target

I feel like an assasin lol

[kindred herald]

Your shift stuns things, btw

So it’s a great tool to get backstabs

[marble magnet]

Is there anyway to know where rusted key) void cache's spawn on commencement? I even went back into the starting area and couldn't find it

Is there any place where they CANT spawn?

[lavish jacinth]

it can be pretty much anywhere that enemies can reach

so it won't be in the starting room or anywhere really hard to get to

but other than that, you just have to keep an eye out for it

[marble magnet]

😭 I guess I'll know this for next time

[quasi topaz]

No way to know but in my experience it tends to spawn near the soul pillars more often than other spots

[supple yoke]

If you have spleen and max crit
Is there a point in having daggers?

[quasi topaz]

No

You can grab needletick and stack those to proc death mark easier with the spleen max crit

[supple yoke]

Oh yh

[sharp mica]

Genuine question: I know brittle crown is niche but like, when ever do you use it cause it seems kinda god awful

[supple yoke]

If u dont get hit often its rly good for farming gold

[hoary sedge]

yeah on any rapid hit survivor it basically just solves your money gain for the whole run if you have a couple defensive items like opal, spaces, echo, etc

it also has no downside with longstanding solitude

[brittle shuttle]

its an insta take on majority of survivors lol

and even on the survivors it may be a little more dicey on (mult acrid false son) its still a pretty damn good take

its like one of if not the least niche lunar

[sharp mica]

Like Rex ofc

[brittle shuttle]

rex being an exception

[marble magnet]

I mean, it's good on any survivor if you take long-standing solitude too.

[sharp mica]

Also question, as I am still understanding how shrine of order works.

I assume using it here is a bad idea?

Since it picks a random un-obtained item this run and converts all your items into that item per rarity

[tender temple]

What no

It picks one of the items you currently have and turns all items of that rarity into that item, for all rarities

In your case it probably wouldn't be a good idea cause you don't have too many good items

[glossy panther]

For the Mul-t: seventh day challenge, does gilded coast count as a stage? (question already answered in discussion channel 👍 )

[brittle shuttle]

Is what a coward would say there is no risk of rain without the risk

Always do the order shrine

[sharp mica]

I just did it

👀

Green was poopoo but the white is spicy

[raven orchid]

can someone on xbox play with someone on steam?

[fallen bridge]

nop

[prime frigate]

Will the regenerating scrap still be prioritized in the red cauldron in the bazaar?

[kindred herald]

yes

[prime frigate]

Thx

[kindred herald]

it functions exactly like regular scrap, which is prioritized anywhere a item would be eaten to make another (so just printers and cauldrons)

[prime frigate]

Cool, just making sure since it specified the rarity in the description

[floral gorge]

Is engineer or fire dude better?

[quasi topaz]

You mean artificer?

Engineer is better with alternate abilities and arti is better out of the box. Overall engineer is easier to play since when you play him you technically have 3 of him

[marble magnet]

Heu guys I have a dilemma

So I have 5 gas and a fmp

But there's a recycler in a tri shop, which do I take?

[fallen bridge]

recycler if you want to have a good run, fmp if you want to have a fun run

[marble magnet]

Hmm...

I haven't really done anything with fmp in a long long time so

[kindred herald]

I’d use recycler on the stage to try to look for a soulbound / gun / card / fuel cell / will o the wisp / ceremonial daggers and then leave with the fmo

[glossy panther]

So I heard that some previously niche or not so useful items synergizes well with rex's kit?
Such as

[lavish jacinth]

well medkit is always useful, for one thing

[brittle shuttle]

Wouldnt say stealthkit and gloop are good as rex but for the most part the rest are good yes

[lavish jacinth]

razorwire and death mark are definitely good on rex, the rest kinda vary

[brittle shuttle]

planulas kinda just aight but you dont end up scrapping it much anyways cus you find a good yellow printer once every blue moon

Even on rex nkuhanas is still aggressively mediocre

And rejuv rack lets you spam quite a bit longer

[lavish jacinth]

they synergize in the sense that they're better on rex than they are on most survivors, but they aren't necessarily better than other items in their tier

stealthkit still sucks though

[kindred herald]

Stealthkit, nhukanas, planula, and Genesis loop are all bad items that continue to be bad on Rex

[lavish jacinth]

planula's not horrible but it is very niche

[brittle shuttle]

Planula isnt good yeah but again its a yellow item so you may find a good yellow printer once every blue moon

So youre kinda stuck with it 95% of runs

and on rex it does get a bit more use than other survivors

[fierce bluff]

Genesis loop is very very good if you know how to use it on self damage rex

[brittle shuttle]

Using gloop on rex implies breaking watches elixirs and transmitter

And being 3 feet away from death

Yeah no thanks

[quasi topaz]

If you want to be on that low hp youre better off taking 2 shaped glass

[marble magnet]

I need help on this

Do all 3rd hits proc expose on Merc?

For example using it's secondary after using primary twice

I haven't been able to test it out because I keep forgetting

[fallen bridge]

only the 3rd hit of m1 but you can use other skills during that m1

[marble magnet]

Ohhh

Like uh, you use third hit then you use a move?

[fallen bridge]

yah, that is where expose tech comes from

[marble magnet]

Hmm got it :)

Though why is that called a tech?

Idk it being a tech confused me into thinking it was actually way harder to do then it actually is I guess

That's more like a tip than anything

[hoary sedge]

tbf there really isn't much in terms of actually complex tech in ror2

[fallen bridge]

i think the only actually complex one is captain speedshooting

[marble magnet]

When I think of tech I think of the captain pylon cancel thing

Not double Rebar or expose 'tech'

[silver moat]

what does the "Destination Portal" do after I beat Lost Son?

Also, If I have lets say 5 Watches and I put them in the "Offer Item" will it take only 1 or all 5?

[fallen bridge]

a. sends you to a random stage 4 environment
b. only 1

[brave cedar]

What items are good on Merc?

[honest badger]

the offer item ends your run

so it takes away every item, but grants one item of the given type

[fallen bridge]

all of the generally good items etc + the dmg multipliers
somewhat uniquely he gets a ton of value from because trimping w/ whirlwind allows him to get an extremely powerful stomp

he also tends to be sprinting more than other survivors so also get more value

[hoary sedge]

he also gets extra value out of bc it makes any attack that exposes apply 2 stacks (yes expose can stack, there's just not a display for it)

any items/equipment that help your damage against tanky single targets are usually good to have on him too, his kit inherently has really really good aoe but doesn't do great at single targets

[brave cedar]

Can anyone tell me how I died "by the planet"? I was on the ground, down in the walkway to the artifact portal, yet I still kept taking dmg. There were the grandparents doing the big attack, which was why I ran, but it should stop if there's a wall, right?

[lavish jacinth]

the grandparent's attack inflicts burn, it wears off pretty quickly but it can still deal damage for a short time after breaking line of sight

died to the planet also just means the thing that killed you doesn't have a name, you sometimes see it if you die to a DoT that came from an enemy that already died

[mellow crystal]

it also applies overload which extends burn duration

[elfin zodiac]

is needletick free? cuz we can get bleed from noxtious, harvester's, etc

so collapse and bleed

[steady stone]

if you have a consistent source of bleed, like full crit spleen, tritips indeed do nothing

only one bleed per hit

[lavish jacinth]

harvester's doesn't cause bleed

the bleed chance from noxious also doesn't stack, so if you're playing a survivor that works well with bleed and don't have shatterspleen + decent crit chance, tritip is still good to have

[elfin zodiac]

my bad

alright then

[turbid reef]

according to the ror2 wiki it says The Gold Portal can spawn by spending money on an Altar of Gold and then completing the Teleporter Event.

Alternatively, completing a Halcyon Shrine on

Reformed Altar
,

Treeborn Colony
,

Golden Dieback
, or any Stage 4 Environment will spawn a Gold Portal upon completion.
does that mean that it will guarentee spawn on stage 4?

or is there a guarenteed way to get to gilded coast

[lavish jacinth]

nope, but the most reliable way to get there is by visiting the bazaar after every stage, since it has a chance to appear in lunar seers (about 28% iirc)

[turbid reef]

icic tysm

[brave cedar]

Good to know, thx

[sharp mica]

How to properly use hellfire tincture without offing yourself

[steady stone]

avoid unless you can stay alive, and will also help

tincture by default shouldnt kill you on use since it does % damage

also passive healing like may help, since it's constant

along with certain survivors being better actually, with their built in armor

the burn itself leaves you at 1hp tho i believe

[sharp mica]

Ah I am still learning things, since I dont have the DLC's yet so I will look them up but seems like you just need something to work around the burn to avoid being in a spot where you can get KOed by a stray bullet

[steady stone]

ah, well planula heals you on taking damage, repulsion is a flat damage reduction, ignition tank increases burn damage (including the friendly)

without dlc, id say just keep a good source of natural healing to outdo the damage, and only use it when it's safe to do so

it's a very powerful offensive tool, especially to shrug off smaller enemies while focusing a larger target

[marble magnet]

What logbooks describes the original commando beating providence in ror2

I wanna look at it

(I hope it's not actually a RoR1 logbook)

Found it

Predatory instincts

22 unblinking crimson eyes

[sharp mica]

Question

I am trying to get the achievement of throwing hermit crabs off the map, and I am in stage 4 atm

if I go into the blue portal, and finish void fields, do I still get to see the hermit crabs in roost?

or do I need to loop naturally through artifavt reliquary or the portal re-alignment

[fallen bridge]

if you are on stage 4 & you visit void fields you will be on stage 5 after

also it is titanic plains you need, not roost

[sharp mica]

Ahh copy

Is there a guaranteed newt altar every stage? and is there a way to ensure it spawns a blue orb to get the altar to ensure I get plains?

[fallen bridge]

some stages will have outright inaccessible altars, but both stage 5's have guaranteed access

[hard edge]

What items should I use on seeker? Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but I’m trying to get into her. Been trying to use her in Monsoon but the most I’ve done is die on stage 5.

[fallen bridge]

she can kinda do everything, but soul spiral & reprieve are very good at base damage proc items like etc, & sojourn has extremely high burst damage potential (e.g. etc) if you build it right

she also has tons of built-in healing so you should not need very much/any at all, so focus more on the normally good items etc

[hard edge]

Thank you👍

[random gorge]

why when i wannt to start a run and i click on expansions i can click them 3 time ? onces for them to look normal a nother so it has a yellow dot at the bottem and one were it is canceld ?

ât the char select screen

just wondering what the third option with the dot and the one without the dot means

i can guess what the crossed out one means

[kindred herald]

multiplayer voting options are basically enabled outside of mp

[bright marsh]

hi i wass playing game with random guy and he had some augument that alowed him ti pick items from chest some wierd black cubes would fall out and than i could pick how can i unlock it please help me

[kindred herald]

yellow means youve 'voted' for it. in singleplayer this means its enabled, in multiplayer it means its enabled unless someome else votes for the red X
red X turns it off

iirc all expansions are on (yellow) by default

[random gorge]

ok tysm

[quasi topaz]

They most likely have the artifact of command enabled to unlock that you have to get to one of the stage 5s and input the correct code to the artifact portal

[fallen bridge]

the code is hidden somewhere in the world, but it is on the wiki if you do not want to hunt for it

[bright marsh]

oke oke thx i will try it : D

[kindred herald]

almost every enviroment in the game has a artifact code hidden on it

[elder trout]

Hey guys, I'm trying to get the False Son achievement "Protein Heavy Diet," do you guys just recommend grabbing a ton of Bison Steak & Infusion, or is there another method that is faster/better?

[fallen bridge]

longstanding solitude (w/ the appropriate economy items) + stone flux is probably the easiest

[quasi topaz]

Spam and you'll get it pretty quick

[elder trout]

Remind me what type of item Longstanding Solitude is?

[quasi topaz]

Lunar

[elder trout]

Thanks!

[sharp mica]

Wait which one spawns hermit crabs?

I know its plains but I cant make out either

[crisp timber]

left is plains. you can see the giant arches

[sharp mica]

Thanks!

The grounds.... begins to shift underneath you?

[crisp timber]

golem family event

[sharp mica]

..... no hermit crabs??

[crisp timber]

unlucky lol

[sharp mica]

Is there a way to loop earlier 😭

[crisp timber]

unfortunately not

you could technically loop again, but i think at some point you're just going to obliterate crabs by standing next to them

[sharp mica]

Not if I scrap auto-target things I guess and rush down teleporters

guess I can get the 20 stages achievement with Rex

[hardy anchor]

whats different between pc and console?

[lavish jacinth]

Pc has mods and is a little less buggy, generally

[austere pawn]

is there a way/mod that disables merc's screen shake when he swings his sword?

Regular disable screen shake does nothing

[lavish jacinth]

you can ask #ror2-modding but I kinda doubt it

[brazen sluice]

question: is it still a prominent sentiment that drones arent worth picking up? i always pick up my drones and they are a great help

[mellow crystal]

Healing drones and equip drones are always nice

Idk about the offense drones

But even those are good for drawing aggro

[fallen bridge]

offence drones do not do much outside of aggro but they are worth taking just in the event you get droneparts

[balmy jetty]

Actually which dlc are drone parts from

[fallen bridge]

dlc1/void dlc

[balmy jetty]

Dang it

[brazen sluice]

i always pick up every drone. their dps isnt the best sure, but the agro is realy nice (mithrix and false son spend half the fight playing baseball with them), droneparts exists, they proc bolstering lantern, and theres a couple other niche perks about them

[fallen bridge]

equip drones' ~80% cdr on equipment + the fact that they scale w/ enemy level makes them pretty potent at dealing dmg

[lavish jacinth]

items are priority but drones are pretty much always worth getting if you have extra cash, especially healing or equipment drones

[brazen sluice]

i thought it was just a set timer that ignores the equipment's timer. otherwise theyd be rapid firing

[lavish jacinth]

they do rapid fire capacitor tho

[balmy jetty]

I like them when I don't get a lot of crowd control items

[fallen bridge]

ya capacitor's cd is like 4sec on equip drones, they just have to be targetting an enemy

[lavish jacinth]

the only drone that's kinda garbage is the TC-280

[brazen sluice]

is always nice in a drone

oh god yea that thing sucks

[lavish jacinth]

cube drone can soft carry a run

[fallen bridge]

praying ac makes tc-280 worth taking

[brazen sluice]

but every other drone i always pick up. even gunner drones

AC needs to make TC not perma-die

[lavish jacinth]

I think the "drones bad" sentiment is either from people who don't realize how powerful aggro management is, and/or it's from a LONG time ago back when drones didn't scale with enemy level

[fallen bridge]

(or someone was salty about all of them dying to grandparent)

[brazen sluice]

well that and A LOT of youtubers spread the idea that they suck coughwooliecough

[lavish jacinth]

understandable tbh, granparents exterminating all your drones is some bullshit

but that's not the drones fault

[brazen sluice]

oh also its actually a good thing when mithrix kills all your drones with pizza spinner if you have even just 1

ive actually used that as my main dps source in a couple runs

[lavish jacinth]

the 200iq strat is to wait until just before the item steal to repair them, if you have you can spawn turrets that'll make phase 4 completely free

[brazen sluice]

yea ive done that. though its much harder in eclipse

idk i just dont think its ever not worth picking every single drone up. money is never even an issue anyway after the first like 2 minutes of any stage

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the idea that drones aren't worth getting is just dumb

[brazen sluice]

i will say though that i would very much like for them to stop picking up collectables. especially

that and blocking shots like huntress's balista

thats realy the only two downsides i can see to drones

[hardy anchor]

are there stages to the HAHAHAHA difficulty or is it just one final difficulty?

[clear whale]

enemies cap at level 99

[hardy anchor]

how exactly do i see the enemies' levels?

im console

[dusky raven]

it says it right next to the difficulty

[hardy anchor]

oh whoops lol thank you so much

[lavish jacinth]

enemy level caps at 99 but the game will continue to spawn stronger enemies in larger amounts, until you get nothing but hordes of elite scavengers

technically the difficulty scaling is infinite, but t2 elite scavs are effectively the cap since they're the strongest thing the game can spawn and there's an enemy limit of 40, and enemy spawns kinda break once you hit that point

[cursive yew]

https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/kQYwyObeD-4c2rJiU?invite=cr-MSxqR0csMjk3ODUwNjM&v=58

wtf is going on 😭

[lavish jacinth]

well the item drops are probably from sonorous whispers

dunno why there are so many, it's kinda hard to narrow it down when you have literally hundreds of items and the game is running at about 2 seconds per frame

[turbid reef]

does obliterating on false son count as completion for eclipse

[quasi crystal]

Does an Elite Scav have a higher value than an Overworm?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, since overloading worms can't be elite

[lavish jacinth]

you can't end the run at false son on eclipse, beating mithrix is always required

[turbid reef]

icic tysm

[quasi crystal]

Can a magma worm be overloading?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[quasi crystal]

Can it be elite at all?

[lavish jacinth]

they can't

[quasi crystal]

Oh okay fair enough

[cursive yew]

what are the conditions for all of the 3 alternate stages to appear? (disturbed impact, viscous falls, and golden dieback) I'm trying to get the environment logs

[lavish jacinth]

they just appear when looping, although iirc golden dieback is still bugged and unobtainable

[nimble panther]

Is there a way to activate the blue portal in coop cause me and my friend tried to unlock Artificer for him but we cant find the Newt Altar

I know the locations of it in single player

[clear whale]

The location is random

[nimble panther]

We cant find it anywhere tho

[lavish jacinth]

Then there might not be one

They aren't guaranteed on some maps, I think distant roost is one of them but idr any others off the top of my head

[keen plover]

any sugestions on how to get map log entrys

[livid wedge]

Playing with Sacrifice on frees up map credits for logs

[keen plover]

thx

[hoary sedge]

iirc it's just distant roost and sirens call

[marble magnet]

Do I scrap luminous on Railgunner?

I'm just gonna as it is pretty weak on her

[marble magnet]

Wait more important question

Is there a optimal way to get pushed by railgunners mines

Like should I jump just before or not jump

[quasi topaz]

I jump as the mine is exploding as close to the edge of the radius as I can. As you play her more you'll get the timing down

[marble magnet]

Okee

Man I'm thankful I found out that by dropping tow mines at once it creates a bigger jump upwards

Idk if you can do it with just two base mines but pillar skip is deffo possible with afterburner

[quasi topaz]

This was done 3 years ago so might not work due to physics changes but you're welcome to try
https://youtu.be/J20zM2enLg4?si=kmVUBOO76UG_7QzJ

[marble magnet]

How much attack speed do they have

Discord doesn't let me zoom in on videos

[quasi topaz]

Read the video title

[marble magnet]

Oh

Woopsie

[rotund belfry]

how is it possible that my friend has "time alive: 67327.55" while only having a bit over 100 hours on steam

[frosty reef]

https://youtu.be/v45b74EKR1s?si=rCKYR7_H1FEHtBQf this ones better

[marble magnet]

Do mobile turrets sprint?

[hoary sedge]

only if they're far away from you and even then it's inconsistent

[brazen sluice]

am i the only one who things bolstering lantern and antlers should be swapped for thematic reasons? spawn the flames with the lantern that guides your way through speed and then name the antlers "charged antlers" or something like that to boost your attack speed

[viral sorrel]

movespeed dependent on surrounding allies/enemies would be really inconsistent and annoying imo

like

[brazen sluice]

no im saying to swap the entire item effects

purely a cosmetic change. both white items so it would change nothing about the game functionally

[marble magnet]

Another question

Can you void crit a halcyon shrine. Halcyonite?

[brazen sluice]

void crit? as in ?

[kindred herald]

Void crit can kill anything without a red healthbar

[brazen sluice]

if so, how would you void crit a shrine? its not an enemy. unless youre talking about the halcyonite (the gold floating spinny golem with a sword), in which case, yes. its not a boss. works on EVERYTHING that does NOT have a red HP bar

[brazen sluice]

damn beat me to it

so even boss "type" enemies that didnt come from a teleporter (such as a vagrant that spawns from a monster shrine) can be void critted

[marble magnet]

I was talking about la enemy

Thanks

[glossy panther]

Player stats is often bugged from what I see
It says I have the most death as commando being 73 times even tho I've only picked him 8 times
And I saw someone with allied void jailer from zoea as their nemesis

[viral sorrel]

my player stats is bugged so void fiend says hes done a few quadrillion damage and takes up half the pie chart

[misty drum]

chat is bandit rifle good now because of luminous shot? that's what im being told on the steam forums right now

[fallen bridge]

rifle is good regardless, but yes it gets more value from lumi compared to shotgun

[misty drum]

i thought rifle was supposed to be bad lol but i havent tried it much

why is lumi better on rifle than shotgun?

[fallen bridge]

shotgun pellet does 100% dmg each, compared to rifle's 330%, e.g. lumi gets 3.3x value on rifle v. shotgun

[tender temple]

Blast isn't bad but burst is just more awesome

[livid wedge]

Yeah, only one pellet gets the buff

[fallen bridge]

rifle, while it technically has less raw dmg (330% v. shotgun's 500% per shot), it has a 1.0 proc co & is more consistent at range (if you are pacing your shots)

[misty drum]

hmmm interesting

i always disliked rifle because the bloom felt so bad on it

[tender temple]

I don't really care about luminous on most characters cause if their m2 cooldown is over like 3 seconds the boost is rarely ever seen

Wow I get to deal a bit more damage with my m1 every 30 seconds

[fallen bridge]

wait a little bit between shots, the bloom is only noticeable if you are spamclicking

[misty drum]

is a luminous printer the modern day equivalent of a sticky printer

[fallen bridge]

not really

[misty drum]

ive been hearing it's really good to stack but i havent tried it

[tender temple]

The one good thing about luminous that makes it good regardless is the cooldown reduction you get on 1 stack

[fallen bridge]

while yah it does scale quadratically, its max condition is increasingly hard to meet

gas/willowisp stack better overall

[lavish jacinth]

If you want a good green to stack, try . It gets increasing returns like luminous but is way less finicky

[ruby totem]

Seeker 1122 is viable? I feel like I lack damage the entire run without sojourn or the balls

[crisp timber]

Honestly any combo of seeker abilities is viable

[quasi topaz]

I run unseen hand and reprieve with meditate and her damage feels fine

[crisp timber]

1122 should be fine. You just need to lean into using reprieve to maximize Biden blast

[quasi topaz]

as long as you play normally she's hard to lose on

[ruby totem]

I should keep trying, idk maybe I'm just not used to it

[tepid gate]

Shuriken stacking is fire

[quasi topaz]

best green to stack other than bands and ukelele imo

[lavish jacinth]

technically it has the best stacking of any green, I think

[kindred herald]

Shuriken clears uke

[lavish jacinth]

easily, uke falls off pretty hard after like 5 stacks

willo is up there but it only increases damage potential with its increased radius, shuriken actually gets increasing dps

bands and atg are good but linear stacking means they do fall off eventually

[fallen bridge]

at worst shuriken stacking is linear at the point where they regenerate faster than you can use them

i did the math at some point & you would need 500-something shurikens for them to regenerate faster than the 1-attack-per-frame limit

[sand shell]

Does the new host skip only work with headset

[fallen bridge]

it also works if you have (or really any decent movement option, fall dmg cancel is important)

[sand shell]

Oh really?

[fallen bridge]

ya

[sand shell]

I mean I tried it with just safer spaces and it didn’t work

[fallen bridge]

you need mobility as well

just spaces will not work, except on like merc maybe

[sand shell]

Oh I see

[fallen bridge]

a vast majority of her power comes from her utility, so learning how to use your grapple (especially in conjunction w/ pylon) to maximise momentum for big hits would be a start

total dmg proc items like etc are worth looking out for (on all survivors, not just loader) ... she also benefits a lot from as she has very large hits that are made even more powerful by these items

not much else, just learning to be smart w/ grappling & punching takes quite some practice

yah her primary does not do very much damage

i like to start charging, then hook when i gauge that it will have finished charging as i get near my target

[lavish jacinth]

This might be helpful if you wanna get into loader https://youtu.be/zeRRJGfzuSw it doesn't go into any advanced stuff, but it's short and covers all the important aspects of her movement

getting the hang of grapple movement is really important for her, since her charged punch does more damage the faster she's moving, and grappling is how you build up speed

whoever you're most comfortable with, although anyone with good mobility and range tends to be good at it

[fallen bridge]

whoever you are best at but generally high-mobility survivors or those w/ control effects

mainly

[lavish jacinth]

I had a really easy time doing it with Acrid personally, he can focus on survival while letting poison work on the boss

but I've also heard people really struggle doing it as Acrid so YMMV

fairly well yeah, as long as you don't mind a longer chargeup on her utility

but you can charge it up in advance and hold it as long as you want (assuming you're using the default one), so it's not a big deal

[proven prairie]

What are the best beacons to bring if I’m going Diablo?

[fallen bridge]

shock is overall very strong, i normally run shock + any other beacon w/ diablo

[proven prairie]

If I want to make a forgive me please build with command, what items would I prioritise and stuff?

[proven prairie]

Thank you

[fallen bridge]

chronic expansion + , , + your standard proc items/dmg multipliers

[proven prairie]

What items should I stack/get first? Like if I get a white what do I start stacking first or what should my first red be etc. Or does it not really matter

[fallen bridge]

does not really matter a whole lot, but maybe start w/ a handful of dmg multipliers/proc items until you grab fmp & catalyst, then start building into onkills/procs/dmg multipliers

[proven prairie]

Alright tyty

[vale quartz]

This game got cross play?

[fallen bridge]

nop

[vale quartz]

Sad

[lost marsh]

I keep seeing small blue spirit looking things on the ground

They show up around the map then vanish when I get close, what are they?

[lavish jacinth]

orbs from elusive antlers, probably

they give you a speed boost when you pick them up

[lost marsh]

Oh thank you

They don’t have it in the description lol

[lavish jacinth]

it literally says that it spawns orbs that give a movement speed bonus

[lost marsh]

Oh no they do

Got confused with the green antlers i also have

[glossy panther]

Do you unlock both survivor mastery skin and logbook by obliterating on monsoon?

[tidal mesa]

Does anyone know why character mods just sometimes don't work?

[hoary sedge]

you get the skin but I don't think obliterating gives you survivor logbooks

it's been a while though so not sure

[lilac wolf]

Does backup magazine contribute to false son's growth?

[steady stone]

No, meaning the unlock also won't count them towards the 44 you need

[lilac wolf]

🥀

Thanks

[broken mountain]

can someone help me fix a bug my characters items and all enemies invisible uninstalled the game deleted profile and steam check files didnt help also im playing without mods

[marble magnet]

Does yellow scrap get corrupted by void dio?

[glacial knoll]

yea

[daring cloak]

Dont think so

Or at least it used to not

[worldly vector]

Hello, I don't know if that is the right place to ask, but I have an issue that's makes online experience horrible. When I play online everything seams to be ok, but after 20-30 min. of online session everything freezes(nothing but timer moves) and I have no other choice but to leave the game. I didn't want to report this to bug reports chat because its a known issue in this community, and it seems to be some kind of connection issue. I tried to find something online but didn't find any way to fix it. Is there any way to fix it ?

[fallen bridge]

is crossplay on?

[worldly vector]

Yeah

[fallen bridge]

that is the issue then

it is known to cause a ton of issues/instability in multiplayer

[worldly vector]

But U cant play online without it

[fallen bridge]

you can, you just cannot play w/ people using epic games if you are on steam & vice versa

if you are all on steam/epic then disable it

[worldly vector]

I'll try it right now, thx

[ebon shoal]

what special for false son is better

[fallen bridge]

laser burst is leagues better, it synergizes w/ the rest of his kit much better & has much better dmg

[ebon shoal]

last time laser burst sucked butt, i guess they buffed it?

[mellow crystal]

they buffed it and semi-accidentally mega-nerfed lotf by fixing a bug

[ebon shoal]

thats why its butt now

thanks team 👍

[lost saddle]

do any healing items work with transcendence?

[livid wedge]

Shield can't be "healed"

Has to recharge. Can still overheal with aegis with things that aren't percent heals

[lost saddle]

kk so its best if i scrap all my healing stuff?

just basic white healing items like cautious slug and monster tooth

[livid wedge]

Ye

Cautious slug is pointless with transcendance

[hearty ivy]

Keep it for friend points

Don't be fooled, they're whats important

[livid wedge]

wut

[hearty ivy]

Slug is a little guy, therefore friend

[livid wedge]

[kindred herald]

yes this is part of the strength of transcendence- all healing is now scrappable

[dry moss]

I wish laser was better

False son laser is making me crash out

[dusky raven]

Laser burst is leagues better

[fading zodiac]

any one know how does scavanger attacks work? i have well over 100 hours in the game and its the first time this happend to me , even in 20+ stage runs the scavanger didnt do this https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/kRE4WoRMdOfITDUpE?invite=cr-MSxobmMsMTk0MTcwODQy&v=45

[lavish jacinth]

the orange blobs they throw proc on-kill effects, it probably had willow or gasoline

it also had which was hitting you

[fading zodiac]

i think he got some crowbars and the bazzoka who makes your attacks explode

first time i saw a scavanger pick up items to use em , in some older runs he got killed before he could do that

[lavish jacinth]

I think I see a laser scope on its gun, I can't tell if it has any items that give crit chance though

and yeah, there's a crowbar too

[kindred herald]

They only start to use their equipment or pick up items if they’re below a certain hp thresholds

[lavish jacinth]

they also spawn with random items, so they'll still have stuff even if they haven't pulled anything out of their bag yet

[kindred herald]

Which means if you don’t attack them at all it’s relatively safe to scout a scavenger to figure out what equipment and items it has
Still have to be careful that it doesn’t kill you with will o wisp or gas though

[fading zodiac]

well , i thought they were a punching bag but ig they arent if you cant one shot em

[lavish jacinth]

sometimes they are, it just depends on what items they have

[fading zodiac]

in most of my god runs i go with barbed wire planula helfire type build so they dont have the chance to do anything but ig you can learn something about them even after 100h in the game

[short badge]

Can the devs add Mario as a secret crossover with pal world

[clear whale]

Nintendo will starve...

How dare you add mario...

(Real answer: No, Nintendo does not like that unless you contacted them and make it switch exclusive)

[lavish jacinth]

Last time someone had unsupervised access to Nintendo IPs, we got cdi mario and zelda

Nintendo won't let that happen again, because they're uncultured cowards who fear true gaming perfection

[livid wedge]

True

[lofty sedge]

heyyy, can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong here? i'm trying to get the challenge for false son where you need 40 lunar spears at once with "growth" but i have 42 in this image with no back up mags, did i do something wrong? is it a bug?

[lavish jacinth]

you need to GAIN 40 spikes, it doesn't count the 4 that you start with. you need 44 total

[lofty sedge]

darn, i was so damn close too :P

thanks for the help!!

[fierce bluff]

Get longstanding solitude and about 8-9 roll of pennies with 2-∞ stone flox pauldrons, then just get hit and you'll get the 40 spikes in 20 minutes or so

[brave cedar]

Is good on ? The grenades are just so slow, but it also changes the turrets' attacks, so now I'm not sure

[viral sorrel]

yes its very good

it makes the turrets really strong

the stationary ones at least idk about the mobile turrets

only ever get one stack of it though

[fallen bridge]

ya it is a straight dps boost on both turrets

[viral sorrel]

it also makes them more accurate no ?

[fallen bridge]

i suppose? but it is not like they are not accurate already

[viral sorrel]

fair fair

[brazen sluice]

why is woolie not on here?

[fallen bridge]

why would he be

[livid wedge]

Don't think he's really welcome here anymore anyway

[peak jacinth]

did he help..?

[brazen sluice]

help with what? most of the people on that list just make videos and other content and nothing else. thats why its the "special thanks" section and not the "this person worked on this specific thing" section

[peak jacinth]

a lot of those people helped with code, QA testing, or playtesting

[fallen bridge]

ya those folks were brought in for ac as well

[peak jacinth]

Woolie hasn’t really done much for ror2 since sotv so like why would he be there

[brazen sluice]

i guess if they were all brought in for AC then that makes sense

[real whale]

Is there an Artifact Teleporter on Helminth Hatchery

[real whale]

Disputed Origin my goat

[fallen bridge]

yah, at the very top

[brazen sluice]

why isnt he welcome here? yea he said some not so kind things about the devs when SOTS dropped, but didnt half the people on that list also do that?

[livid wedge]

I don't think the others used a slur

[fallen bridge]

we would have heard about it if the others did

[brazen sluice]

what slur?

[livid wedge]

R word

[brazen sluice]

rhymes with tape?

idk never heard of an "r word" slur

[fallen bridge]

the exact word used does not matter, just that he should not have used it

[brazen sluice]

i think that entirely depends on personal beliefs. personally i believe that no word should be off limits

[hoary sedge]

that is a very libertarian take (derogatory)

[brazen sluice]

isnt libertarian more of a belief on how the economy should be run? admitedly im not that well informed about what libertarians think. im just pro free speech and anti censorship

either way ill probably end here purely because its getting quite off topic for this chanel

[livid wedge]

More than enough other words to go around that we can avoid a few that are used in a derogatory manner

[glacial knoll]

Most of these people are modders, i'm pretty sure they'd be open to add more streamers/ytbers because their input is also quite important

Woolies just kinda more of an ass than the usual amount and dropped the game

Communities better for it

[livid wedge]

I honestly learned about them first when they did something sketchy

[high forum]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retard_(pejorative) now you have. you learn something every day :)

(this is not an invitation to debate whether it's a slur or not, i'm just informing of the word woolie used and in what manner)

[brazen sluice]

wtf? thats not a slur. as someone who that word targets and with most of my friend group also fits into that group, i have never met anyone who that word targets who actually finds that word offensive

[livid wedge]

Please read the above

[high forum]

this was not an invitation to debate whether it's a slur or not

[livid wedge]

I always think there's another R in pejorative

Right before the J

[high forum]

chatgpt would probably agree with you

there are three b's in blueberry

[livid wedge]

That reminds me

That is all for non ror content here

[high forum]

coconut

[livid wedge]

Tomatum

[marble magnet]

Is risk of rain 2

Risk of rain 2?

🤞🥹

[viral sorrel]

risk of rainum

[marble magnet]

No way..

[viral sorrel]

foreign fruitum.....

[hoary sedge]

directive: harvestum

[peak jacinth]

bro also said Dr. Disrespect did nothing wrong

[brazen sluice]

whos that?

[peak jacinth]

go read about it

[brazen sluice]

historical figure or yet another popular person on the internet that did something wrong?

[lavish jacinth]

Historical figure, he signed the declaration of independence

[peak jacinth]

look it up on google!

[brazen sluice]

doesnt sound like a bad guy then 😛

[brazen sluice]

ah ok yea just anothre popular person on the internet. i dont have time to keep track of yet another social media influencer ive nevre heard of...theres too many of them and far too many that have done stupid shit...i just cant

[peak jacinth]

ok?

[viral sorrel]

😭

he signed the declaration of cheating on his wife with someone underage

[rough jungle]

Do i pick up Plimp rn? Playing commando (planning to loop to stage 20) with cherf, kjaro's band gasoline, tesla coil and 1 atg

wondering wether its worth taking a lower proc coefficient for immediate the higher dmg

[fallen bridge]

if you are trying to unlock clover i would grab it, but if you already have clover unlocked i would leave it on the ground

[rough jungle]

ok cool

going for commando's nades, have clover

thx 👍

[crisp timber]

I’d also not keep for the stage clear potential

I assume you’re pretty comfortable on single target damage either now or very soon

[rough jungle]

oh right, does plimp not change targets?

[crisp timber]

Nop

[rough jungle]

aaaah

ty

[crisp timber]

Cheers

[rough jungle]

ok do i pick up needletick or reroll for encrusted/safer spaces?

dont have any bleed

also its stage 3

[fallen bridge]

i would reroll for key

[rough jungle]

cool thx

aaah vrit

[fallen bridge]

shame

[rough jungle]

oh well

is this a bug or can you not reroll the legendary drop from the alloy worship unit?

[fallen bridge]

you should be able to? i do not know why you are unable

[rough jungle]

yeah its weird, kinda looks like the item is clipping into the ground a bit and there's no indicator to reroll

guess ill just have to stick with bottled chaos :(

[lavish jacinth]

recycler is just kinda janky sometimes, it doesn't like it when items are clipped into the ground

[viral sorrel]

you gotta get the camera angle just right

[lavish jacinth]

sometimes if you fiddle around you can find an angle where it'll work, yeah

[viral sorrel]

even without the clipping recycler can be jank sometimes

[lavish jacinth]

but the item drop from AWU has a really bad habit of clipping into the floor for some reason

[rough jungle]

ah i didnt even try that

[mellow crystal]

Not to mention the fact that it gets extremely dysfunctional in mp if you're not host

[lapis yew]

on stage 17 monsoon with a friend and havent found a single altar of gold

[viral sorrel]

going to bazaar between time helps in getting there

[lapis yew]

do they spawn like normal shrines or are they hidden

[viral sorrel]

they look like chance shrines but like bright gold

[lapis yew]

yeah we just havent found any at all

do you happen to know the spawn rate

[viral sorrel]

no but they def shouldnt be that rare lol

[lapis yew]

we have not found a single one im so pressed

[lavish jacinth]

there's a decently high chance for gilded coast to appear in lunar seers in the bazaar

it's a lot more reliable than waiting for a gold shrine

[lapis yew]

we got it on stage 21

[trim lynx]

base game

[crisp timber]

Risk of schizophrenia

[rare holly]

This is gonna sound dumb cause I just found them, does the golden crystals in. Bazaar do anything? I found 2 and destroyed them. Not sure how many there are or if they do anything. I rarely go and when i do, its quick in and out dont really look around anymore

[mellow crystal]

Breaking 3 spawns a green portal to take you on sots alt path

[rare holly]

Ah ok.

[cosmic flare]

so what killed me when it say "the planet" after entering the void portal? i was kinda strong i thought im straight up invincible and then suddenly without and visuel info i die out of nowhere?

[lavish jacinth]

probably either void fog or an implosion from a void enemy

void reavers, jailers and devastators all create a black hole thing when they die that's always* an instant kill no matter what, it can't be blocked and ignores iframes. Void fog damage is similar

the only thing that can survive it is and void fiend's utility since they completely remove your hitbox instead of making you invincible

("died to the planet" just means that the thing that killed you doesn't have a name, usually you get it from environmental damage or being killed by an enemy that was already dead, like from a DoT or whatever)

[solar slate]

Anyone know when the new dlc is coming out

[lavish jacinth]

no release date announced yet, but it'll probably be this year

it'll be in #announcements when they do tell us

[hoary sedge]

sojourn also dodges it for the same reason iirc

[daring cloak]

This year presumably

I heavily doubt within the next 2 months though

Dev diary 3 is scheduled for early next month and I dont think they'd release the dlc so soon after that

[peak jacinth]

inb4 dev dairy says “dropping tonight”

[daring cloak]

Would be kinda nuts

[lavish jacinth]

That is exactly what happened with sots tbf, although I don't think they'd want a repeat of that (unless it's actually ready to launch)

[daring cloak]

Suncles did say they wanted a proper release date to schedule the dev diary (and maybe other stuff) around but that'd still be like kinda insane

[tender temple]

The last 30 seconds will reveal everything about the dlc

[daring cloak]

Well no

The returning survivor will get teased

[tender temple]

He said it was separate from the 30 seconds no?

[daring cloak]

The final boss isnt gonna show up, that much was certain pretty much since the dlc got revealed

[daring cloak]

Uhhh idk

[waxen saddle]

why mitrix have 4 toes

[daring cloak]

He's a cyclops not a human

And 4 toes are just kinda normal for them

Provi has 4 toes too

-# and 4 nipples

[waxen saddle]

false son too i see

[daring cloak]

False son was built in the image of provi after all

[quasi topaz]

Alien creature

[lavish jacinth]

5th toe wasn't in the budget

[waxen saddle]

sadly not

[nimble panther]

does obliteration on monsoon also unlocks skins or do i need to kill mithrix?

[waxen saddle]

yes

[daring cloak]

Obliteration works

[waxen saddle]

for mastery skins

[nimble panther]

good cus my dumbass bouta crashout

[waxen saddle]

bruh

[nimble panther]

ah

[mellow crystal]

false son toe i see

[weak adder]

Has there ever been any planning of any extra void items or an extra boss or two along with an item respective to that boss?

[fallen bridge]

void items, probably not ... more bosses, yes - we are getting 2 in ac*

[weak adder]

:0

But I would love to see some extra abilities for Void fiend.

[quasi topaz]

Viend is fine as is and I dont think gb wants to touch any items, enemies, or characters made by hopoo

[weak adder]

Oh I know that but that's just a me thing, it would be hella cool tho

[fallen bridge]

players overwhelmingly do seem to want viend to have alts #ror2-feedback-and-ideas message

[civic ibex]

whats the best character for beating e1-8 with egocentrism? in thinking merc as I'm pretty comfortable on him (don't say loader)

[fallen bridge]

with egocentrism? seeker has the strongest base kit so probably her

[quasi topaz]

Acrid is the most brain dead character in the game (i will die on this hill) as long as you can land your poisons and seeker has a strong base kit and free revive so she won't have much trouble

[civic ibex]

yeah actually I like seeker more than merc for this ur right

maybe I'll try acrid too I haven't mastered the jump yet

[quasi topaz]

Sojourn and balls along with ego sounds interesting

[civic ibex]

also is actually good on acrid? I tried it a couple times matched with the ranged right click and liked it but idk if it's better

[fallen bridge]

most of acrid's dmg comes from ranged poison so visions is pretty much just a straight dps boost

[civic ibex]

that's what i figured ty

[tender kayak]

What are good character for unlocking Rex and the false son?

[quasi topaz]

Drizzle and the artifact of command make any unlock easy to get on any character

[fallen bridge]

loader (or mul-t if you are in multiplayer) & rex/huntress

[livid wedge]

Rex is easy with mult but you need another player to grab the fuel array

Mult doesn't spawn from the drop pod that has it

[fallen bridge]

for false son, phase 1 will usually be the greatest roadblock to obtaining false son & both rex's & huntress' kits are strong against it

phase 3 can be dicey because of auri, but you can manipulate her spawn position to be less of a threat

[tender kayak]

Don’t have any artifacts yet but when I play with my friends they have it unlocked

[livid wedge]

Everyone has access to the sum of all players unlocked stuff

As long as one person has it unlocked, everyone in mp has access to it, aside from dlc survivors

[lime sentinel]

does one 57 leaf counter all impurities

[fallen bridge]

only 1 purity

your luck will be normal if you have 3 clover & 3 purity, think of it as +1 & -1 respectively

[lime sentinel]

okok tytyty

[coarse solstice]

Does anyone have suggestions for beating the Voidling I'm trying to finish unlocking all the character and Void Fiend is the only one I'm missing

[lavish jacinth]

tbh I'd suggest doing the 50 wave simulacrum thing, it's probably easier

[fallen bridge]

looping makes it quite a bit easier - also remember that cover is your best friend during the fight

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah, if you really wanna fight voidling, you'll want a ton of damage and mobility, so it's best to do it post-loop

and best to do it as someone with good damage at range or good mobility (or both)

[coarse solstice]

Noted, I mostly planned on doing Voidling because I wanted to fight them with a buddy of mine

[lavish jacinth]

also if you decide to do it as captain, try to get since you can't use beacons or airstrikes in the void

[fallen bridge]

of all survivors i would say railgunner has it pretty easy as she has no dmg falloff & can poke voidling at range

[lavish jacinth]

Acrid is also really good, especially if you plan to do it in multiplayer

Voidling has an absolutely disgusting amount of health, so poison's %health damage is really nice to have

[fallen bridge]

engi can have a pretty easy time as well because (bear w/ me on this one) bubble shield blocks voidling's only potentially dangerous attacks, as you can just walk below voidling during spinny laser & you are likely to have enough speed to avoid black hole

engi also scales very well into loops as well

[lavish jacinth]

you need to stack some mobility items if you're gonna do it as engie though, and maybe get for a little extra range. And don't bring mobile turrets, their range is so short that they literally can't hit voidling at all

(technically it's probably doable without all of that but it's gonna be miserable)

[coarse solstice]

Yeah, to my knowledge mobile turrets are buns for the most part

[fallen bridge]

they have similar dps & procs to stationary, they just have very limiting range

[lavish jacinth]

eh, they're not bad for what they are

but stationary turrets are generally better

(they are fun though)

[short bolt]

What do yall think is the hardest person to get

[coarse solstice]

From what I'm hearing/reading probably Void Fiend

[lavish jacinth]

rex or void fiend ig, kinda hard to say since every character unlock can be cheesed or made easier in some way

[coarse solstice]

Rex was definitely a pain now that I'm remembering the whole cant go below half health bit

[lavish jacinth]

but the rex cheese is arguably the hardest since it requires having friends

[coarse solstice]

I didn't even think about using friends

[lavish jacinth]

all you have to do is play mul-t with retool and keep the fuel array stashed in your off-hand

but mul-t doesn't get a drop pod so you need to another player to take it from

[coarse solstice]

I think I did it as bandit but its been a long while so I don't remember who exactly

[lavish jacinth]

I think I used commando but I don't really remember

Loader is another good pick for it but she didn't even exist when I did it, lol

[proven prairie]

how to skip false son phase 1 and 2 with captain?

[fallen bridge]

for phase 1, place a diablo & wait 10-11 sec then trigger the fight (you can double-diablo this if needed)

not sure about phase 2 timings though

[crude sedge]

does anyone have up to date item tier lists for every character

[fallen bridge]

tier lists are highly subjective & that would require ranking thousands of items total so afaik ... none exist

[lavish jacinth]

there would also be a lot of overlap between characters

[crude sedge]

ohh i didnt know there was that many items

[fallen bridge]

atg: good
stealthkit: bad

[fallen bridge]

there are less than 200 but there are 16 survivors

[lavish jacinth]

healing, defense, and mobility items are basically equally good on everybody, with only a few minor exceptions like bungus and elixir being way better on engineer, for example

[crude sedge]

what would i lookout for on a character like chef

[fallen bridge]

proc items mainly, etc

[crude sedge]

okayy tyyy

[lavish jacinth]

and for damage items, total damage procs and damage multipliers are almost universally good, although on hit effects (especially bleed) tend to favor fast proccers like commando while slow, heavy hitters like loader tend to prefer reliable multipliers. But not to such a degree that you wouldn't want to use bands on commando or an atg on loader

and in general, the best strat is to get a mix of everything, because items tend to build off of each other (especially damage)

[marble magnet]

How does character played and the end (victory) screen work

Does it pick the character you chose at the character screen?

Or the character you won with?

Meta

Metamorphis btw, artifact

😭😭😭😭 forgot to add that

*metamorphosis

[lavish jacinth]

it's the character you won with, yea

[marble magnet]

Oke

Metamorphosis is slept on lmao it fun (I forgot to switch off saw only Mul-T 💔)

Oh and flamethrower arti

[lavish jacinth]

you say that like it's a bad thing

[marble magnet]

Yea but it it doesn't bring down metamorphosis, only highlights my stupidity lmao

Actually while I'm on it

Why does power saw MUL-T seem to just launch me away from the enemy

[lavish jacinth]

it has a sort of "suction" effect that's supposed to make it easier to stay near an enemy, but it starts acting weird with high attack speed or double saws

[marble magnet]

Soo uh

1 saw is the best?

[lavish jacinth]

2 saws is fine, just get less attack speed

or just try to play around the weird movement

[marble magnet]

Okee

[crisp timber]

Everyone but Acrid: proc, movement, and bands
Acrid: proc, movement, and damage modifers

Bonus points for false son: proc, movement, bands, max health, and luminous shot

[tender temple]

my tierlist would always be objective because im always right

[tidal mirage]

Yo

[lavish jacinth]

hello

[tidal mirage]

Halo

[past monolith]

if i go to bazaar on meadows will it allow me to loop? im on stage 15 and i dont want to mess up

[lavish jacinth]

yes

you'll always loop if you leave meadows/hatchery by any means besides the teleporter aligned to the moon, or void portal

[tidal mirage]

Nice

[lost saddle]

do you guys like needle tick?

[past monolith]

ehhhh if im playing on a proc character like commando then im probably leaving it

but in other cases i take it

[lavish jacinth]

it depends on survivor but it's generally decent

I wouldn't take it on loader or railgunner since it's not great on them and I'd rather be able to scrap tritips

[hard gull]

it's pretty good on proc characters, especially captain. But low rate of fire characters don't really benefit all that much from it

[quasi topaz]

Its fine to take if it shows up stage 4 or 5 and i have no tritips but I typically like bleed more

[lavish jacinth]

Captain tends to benefit more from tritip if he can get it, but if not then needletick is good too

Bleed is better if you're able to focus a lot of procs on a single target consistently

Where tick really shines is capitalizing on random bits of chip damage that you don't follow up on, or characters with heavily lopsided proc rates like arti

[kindred herald]

Get the collapse damage preview mod btw. it will straight up make you take needletick more often because it shows how much damage it’s doing

[quasi topaz]

On the topic of needletick does anyone know why a voidtouched enemy will do 2 damage but the collapse will delete my healthbar (one hit with no damage reduction)

[mellow crystal]

collapse deals 400% of the applier's base damage
with survivors this is (mostly) consistent

but with enemies their base damage stats are all over the place

lesser wisps have 3.5 base damage while stone titans have fucking 40

[quasi topaz]

What's the base damage of blind pests

[kindred herald]

Collapse deals damage based on ur base damage
Some enemies have wildly variable base damage— for example, stone titans have kind of cracked base damage but it doesn’t matter because their laser deals 10% or something of it in single ticks

but then when that stone titan is Blazing or Voidtouched it applies burn/collapse and it’s based on the otherwise irrelevant high base damage

[mellow crystal]

think that's because they're a tp boss?
nope, grovetender with 23

[mellow crystal]

15

so collapse does a bit more than half your health at level 1

[quasi topaz]

That (kinda) explains the -400 hp at stage 3

[kindred herald]

elder lemurians are also very dangerous voidtouched

and alloy vultures I think?

[mellow crystal]

same as blests yeah

[lavish jacinth]

being a boss wouldn't really matter, the amount of damage they actually deal still depends on their skill damage

[mellow crystal]

yeah but i'm mostly referring to how weirdly arbitrary a lot of the base damage stats are

[kindred herald]

Oh clay templars are what I’m forgetting

Voidtouched clay templar imo is the scariest enemy in the game

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, there's really no reason at all for most enemies to have different base damage, except for scavengers

iirc jellyfish only have like 5 base damage but do 1000% when they explode

hopoo just picked numbers out of a hat I guess

[mellow crystal]

for the 5s and 10s it makes sense since they probably just wanted a multiple of 5 on their skill damage without having to do the math but then there's still 23 on grovetender and shit

or 26 on grandparent

larvae being 11 instead of the standard 12 😭

[lavish jacinth]

I think most enemies have 10, 12 is the standard for survivors

[mellow crystal]

beetles and lems are 12 so i just assumed 12 is standard for everything tbh

[lavish jacinth]

huh, actually they're kinda all over the place now that I look at it

10 is standard for most drones, that might be what I was thinking of

[quasi topaz]

Watch gb pull some stupid numbers with the ac drones

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah it's basically just random numbers for enemies lol

[lavish jacinth]

actually, grandparents might have an excuse since they apply burn that does fixed damage

but 26 is still a weird number

[glacial knoll]

base damage for enemies is essentially entirely arbitrary because they could've just made the skill do more damage

maybe they wanted elite effects to be stronger and stone titan was the first boss because titans also like the main weird example

[lavish jacinth]

my best guess with titans is that they wanted the laser to gain exactly 1 damage per tick per level, and 40(+8) was a convenient way to do that

[humble agate]

oh

crap

wrong channel

[torpid zenith]

Am I tripping or are titans more prone to dropping their boss item

[fallen bridge]

they have the same odds but they are one of the more common bosses

they might be the most common maybe?

[torpid zenith]

Hmm I see thanks

[quasi topaz]

I think they just have the most environments which overinflates the number

[fallen bridge]

that is what i meant by "common"

[hazy musk]

hey guys, rn im trying to get through E8 with everyone, does anyone have a loadout rec for rex? im not at E8 just yet but i wanted to know for the future of what loadout is good since obvs permanent damage is a thing

[quasi topaz]

Non self damage for all skills except for special, that can stay self damage, just use it carefully

[hazy musk]

got it, thanks!

[quasi topaz]

I will say that right now due to a bug, any damage taken that is affected by warped echo will not apply e8 curse so it gives rex another way to block his self damage from applying perma damage other than safer spaces, tougher times, and whatever else I cant think of

[hazy musk]

oh shit, so if i use warped echo on rex the self damage wont apply?

[crisp timber]

Wecho blocks all curse damage for the hit it procs off of

[viral sorrel]

can artifact of soul wisps drop items on artifact of sacrifice

[glacial knoll]

no

[viral sorrel]

ah well at least its more things for noxious thorn to chain off of

[worldly olive]

Are they?

I don't think they proc collapse often because their machine gun has an extremely low proc coefficient

Though maybe voidtouched isn't affected by proc co

[viral sorrel]

it is

id say its greater wisps that are scariest

cause even if they hit you on the very edge of the damage falloff of their fireball the collapse does full damage

so its super hard to avoid

[short bolt]

Yo can someone help me

[hoary sedge]

voidtouched halcyonite is also really scary bc of the jank melee hit boxes and 20 base damage

[short bolt]

Am I the only one that thinks the Imp overlord is adorable if you make the eye look like a mouth and those 2 holes above it like eyes

[hoary sedge]

hate to ruin it for you but imp overlord has 5 eyes

[short bolt]

In my imagination has a mouth an 2 eyes

[viral sorrel]

is there a console command to get rid of an item and if so does it disable logbook unlocks

[quasi topaz]

Try #ror2-modding I believe ive seen item exclusion mods

[viral sorrel]

okurrr ty

[frosty reef]

You need the debugtoolkit mod (read the readme) and realercheatunlocks for logbook stuff

[viral sorrel]

the number of wechos you need to be invincible is like 42 right

[hardy quarry]

not strictly ror2 but do we know what the models for the board game are going to be made of?

[half bear]

No, sry

[hardy quarry]

fingers crossed the models are resin then, certain plastics can degrade under spray primer

[dusky raven]

If anyone would know it’s the people in #theorycrafting

[lavish jacinth]

no amount would make you invincible, it has a cooldown

[viral sorrel]

whoops

[fallen bridge]

it used to be like -3% cd per stack or something but they removed it

[wide roost]

If I’m on pc can a friend play with me on their switch?

[viral sorrel]

nop

[lethal wasp]

I need to know, does Artifact of Swarm + Artifact of Sacrifice affect the drop rate of the items at all, or does it just give more of a chance due to the amount of enemies

[lavish jacinth]

The drop chance with sacrifice is lowered but not completely halved, and there's always a 5% minimum chance. So swarms does get you more items on average, especially from weaker enemies

[lethal wasp]

Okay thank you

[marble magnet]

Can regen scrap appear in bazaar soup?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[marble magnet]

Oki

[hoary sedge]

can't it? I know it's blacklisted from printers but I don't remember there being a cauldron blacklist

wiki doesn't say anything about it either

[lavish jacinth]

cauldrons use the same blacklist as printers iirc

[glacial knoll]

nope just uses default drop table not the printer one

[lavish jacinth]

wait, they do? I could've sworn they had a blacklist

[livid wedge]

No, because you can have regen scrap soup

It's probably because soups aren't 1:1

And they can't convert to the same item rarity, which are both problems that the blacklisted items have for regular printers

[lavish jacinth]

huh
I don't think I've ever seen a regen scrap soup but maybe I just don't visit the bazaar often enough lol

[devout lichen]

is there a number of 57 leaf clovers that would guarantee a log drop?

or is it an absurd and unreachable amount of clovers

[livid wedge]

No, because clovers can never increase an items chance to

[devout lichen]

huh?

[livid wedge]

Clovers apply a reroll of a failed roll

[devout lichen]

clovers affect log drops according to the wiki

[livid wedge]

There is always a chance every roll "fails"

10 clovers would mean rerolling 10 failed rolls. It's still possible to fail all of them, it just gets less and less likely

But never a 0% chance to fail

[devout lichen]

true

but like, how would i get to close

[livid wedge]

Uhh, lemme make the formula

[devout lichen]

ok, thank yuou

[livid wedge]

So, clovers chance is calculated by 1 - (1 - proc chance)^(# of clovers +1) = new chance

So, with atg, you have a 10% chance normally

So, we'd plug that in with 1 clover

1 - (1 - 10%)^(1 + 1)

So, 0.9^2 equals 0.81

[devout lichen]

you are literally amzazing, thank you so much

[livid wedge]

1 minus that gives us a new chance of 19%

If you want to aim for a specific %, we can rewrite that with log

[devout lichen]

thank uyou

[livid wedge]

Hold, I need a scrap of paper for my thoughts with this one

[devout lichen]

i jjust got one lmao

i would pass it if i coukld

im gonna aim for a 25%

cause i now see that close to max

seems unfeasible

[livid wedge]

25% would be, uh

[devout lichen]

29 clovers i think

slightly over 25%

[livid wedge]

18 clovers

Unless it's not 1.5%

[devout lichen]

i suvck at maytj 😭

[livid wedge]

I thought logs were 1.5

[devout lichen]

i thought 1

[lavish jacinth]

3% for bosses, 1% for normal monsters

[livid wedge]

Ah, my math was wrong then

[devout lichen]

sigh

[livid wedge]

Yeah, 29 clovers

[devout lichen]

i had my hopes up for onlyu needing 18

14 morwe to go

[lavish jacinth]

which log are you trying to get?

[livid wedge]

ln(1 - new chance) = ln(1 - old chance)*(clovers + 1)

[lavish jacinth]

if it's one of the final bosses then the chance is effectively higher, since every phase has a chance to drop a log

[devout lichen]

crab, greater wisp

for noramal monsters

[lavish jacinth]

oh

[livid wedge]

Both are regular 1

[lavish jacinth]

that won't be too bad then honestly

[devout lichen]

yeah :3

[livid wedge]

I don't think you'd need that many clovers for a good chance

[devout lichen]

yeah, but just trying to get grindy for funsies

[lavish jacinth]

like, they become pretty common after a while, just keep looping and put on artifact of swarms for more drop chances

[devout lichen]

i have swarms, and am on second loop :3

[livid wedge]

14 is still a 14% chance

Which is reasonable

Especially with swarms

[devout lichen]

alreasdy got child and scorch worm

[lavish jacinth]

only annoying thing with crabs is that they only spawn on abyssal depths and post-loop titanic plains

but greater wisps spawn on a bunch of stages so they should be easy

[livid wedge]

The thing is that clover is dimishing returns. They really start to not provide much value after a certain point

[devout lichen]

thats why i figured 25% would be a feasible cutoff

[livid wedge]

Unless you're going for voidlings log, you really don't want a lot or clovers

[lavish jacinth]

I wouldn't be surprised if you got the logbooks before even stacking that many clovers tbh

[livid wedge]

Yeah

[devout lichen]

🫡

thank you soi much though

one more question, what log isa bewteen lunar chimera and void barnacle?

so i know what to try for that

[lavish jacinth]

solus probe

[devout lichen]

TY

i just got aspect of radiance

reallyu random

but needed to share, my second aspect

[misty drum]

is there ever a reason to take merc's blinding assault over focused assault?

being able to dash through an entire crowd of enemies and pop them all like balloons seems infinitely more valuable than being able to do a little dash forward semi frequently

[mellow crystal]

It's more i-frames which is nice

It also very heavily complements and rewards a hyper-aggro merc playstyle, since you can cancel it with whirlwinds and it overall allows you to proc expose on single targets way more than focused when played aggressively

[misty drum]

ohhh i see

im assuming doing the expose tech is the same on both dashes?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[misty drum]

just more frequently on blinding assault

[mellow crystal]

Yup yup

[misty drum]

it seems like merc has the most viable loadouts even though i dont really see people mention rising thunder

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, his kit is really well-balanced

RT doesn't get used a lot but it isn't bad by any means, I think people just dislike the feel of it

[mellow crystal]

It also doesn't help that it can't trimp and expose tech with it is awkward since iirc it hits before the third slash while whirlwinds can consistently hit after the third slash

But it is still a solid damage and vertical movement option
I think
I need to use it more

[lavish jacinth]

the animation for it is also exceptionally terrible

I don't think that has anything to do with people not using it, but it is funny

oh and using it with low attack speed sends you to space, that's also a thing

whirlwind does the same thing but horizontally

[tender temple]

dude he has the guildedguy sploinky sword

[civic ibex]

my merc load out is 1 2 2 1 and I can't stand playing anything else on him

[mellow crystal]

Evil Goobessa loadout

[north nexus]

is there a f%$&$%&§$&g way to reliably open a multiplayer lobby where my buddies just can join the first try and not the 10th try?

[junior abyss]

can engis turrets spawn its own 's orbs

and can player take it

[quasi topaz]

Invite through steam. Ive never had any issues doing it that way

[waxen saddle]

i think it cant

spawn orbs

[lavish jacinth]

assuming you're all on steam, make sure that you all have crossplay turned off, it causes a ton of problems

[glacial knoll]

Stationary ones spam the log with errors hope this helps

Walking ones can spawn them iirc

[junior abyss]

so mobile turrets is the best special ever now

got it

[north nexus]

Ye, steam. We tried to start a Session today. Crossplay off like we left it from yesterdays Session. The fix that worked was turning it on and off 3 times
...

[marble magnet]

Do I grapple then charge punch?

Its kinda uncomfortable for my fingers (console player)

[quasi topaz]

For loader you can start charging your punch and then grapple but it changes depending on the situation

If Im just generally moving and I see an enemy while im mid air and grapple is on cd ill quickly charge punch

[marble magnet]

I see

[quasi topaz]

If you are using alt utility like me then you have to press the ability when youre decently close to the enemy due to the change in how it charges. Alt utility might be better for you if holding the charge button is uncomfortable

[devout lichen]

does the research facility change based on what arrttifact you put in, or is it random, cause i feel like ive gotten tar the last 3 times

[chrome mist]

is multiplayer not working for anyone else

[high forum]

the game is p2p, so if something's not working, it's more likely that it's something on your end vs. the networking backend

[peak jacinth]

or you have crossplay turned on

[smoky oak]

why is the crow gal not in the char selection? one you unlock her in-game she doesn't show up as a selectable unit?

like, to play with her from the start

[wintry fjord]

You need to collect every item every time

[smoky oak]

Fuck

[vocal harbor]

will there ever be cross play added anywhere in the future

[fallen bridge]

probably not

[peak jacinth]

she’s not playable from the start because she’s way more powerful than all the others in terms of base stats

and she’s also meant to be. secret character i guess

[steady stone]

it would also have to give you all of the lunars for free, since she does have a moveset but it's literally just making a squawk sound for all 4 moves

[ornate stag]

If drones kill enemies do those count towards soulborn catalyst activating?

[kindred herald]

No

[short bolt]

Going for my first commando monsoon run what should I be doing

I’m just farming Enemies near boxes to open them and going around until I get most of the items

[supple yoke]

What relic [red] items are best for loader?

[lavish jacinth]

Afterburner and runic lens are noteworthy on her, otherwise any of the usual good reds + any SotS reds

[supple yoke]

Bril behemo? Ik it adds 60% damage but i didnt think thatd benefit her that much

[lavish jacinth]

It's 60% total damage

[supple yoke]

So its an overall 60% and not base?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

The only real downside for loader is that it doesn't synergize super well with bands or crowbar, since bands have 0 proc coeff, but dealing 60% more damage on most attacks is still really damn good

[supple yoke]

Crowbar seems really ideal for loader tho?

[lavish jacinth]

It is, but its not the only thing she should be relying on

Behemoth WILL work with focus crystal and watches, which are also good on her

And ofc it's guaranteed to work on any damage that has a proc coeff, whereas crowbar will generally only work on the first hit

[supple yoke]

But then due to tesla coil it makes it less useful?

[lavish jacinth]

It's one of the best reds to take if you're not sure what to pick because it's essentially just a constant damage multiplier with very few strings attached. It doesn't stack well tho

[lavish jacinth]

Potentially, but it's not gonna be a run-ruiner or anything. It'll help clear out fodder that's annoying to deal with

If an enemy has so little health that a bit if damage from tesla coil uses up your crowbar bonus, you probably didn't need crowbar to kill then in the first place

[supple yoke]

-# amazing pfp btw
So the reds u mentioned, watches n crystals. What else is ideal for loader cause i thought its just plow everything into the fist charge ability

[lavish jacinth]

I mean yeah, that's sorta her main game plan

Backup mags are good for more grappling, along with reliable multipliers like crowbar, watches, crystal, bands, and possibly crits

But anything that multiplies damage is also gonna be good, so total damage procs like atg or uke are as good as always

Remember that mixing items is generally a lot more powerful than stacking one or two "optimal" things

[supple yoke]

Alright, thank you so much for the help! ^-^

[lavish jacinth]

Np

[lavish jacinth]

Full-looting stages is ideal, but you don't wanna spend more time farming than you need to, a good rule of thumb is to buy everything and try to leave with more items than minutes. But it's ok to spend time using printers and scrappers or whatever

Use blood and combat shrines at the start if the stage to get quick money when enemy spawns are slow, or use that time to find the teleporter and plan a route around the stage so you can check everything without much backtracking

[devout lichen]

how did i respawn here? i just died

[quasi topaz]

Did you hit a shrine of shaping that took away a portion of your healthbar

[devout lichen]

yeah?

good to know thats what that does 😭