ror2-game-questions

[pearl delta]

gotcha

[next snow]

Thanks!

[glossy panther]

Any artifacts I should focus unlocking first?

I already acquired the kin, glass, and command ones

[fallen bridge]

swarms can make some unlocks easier & sacrifice is quite strong

[lavish jacinth]

devotion can be pretty fun, although I don't think it directly helps with any unlocks

[fallen bridge]

order does not matter very much since you already have command, but i would unlock death, chaos, spite, frailty, & soul last because they do not really help w/ anything

[cobalt quiver]

you can also diablo right after phase 3 ends and it will land right when he's able to take damage in phase 4.
i dont know if his invincibility lasts longer the more item he has to steal but this timing works in singleplayer (first loop, which is usually around ~60-90 items)

[fallen bridge]

the timing for that matters a lot based on how many unique item stacks you have so it is safer just to wait for a few seconds & circlestrafe him in

the itemstealing animation duration numbers are consistent so in theory you could time it but that would be rather tedious

[fierce bluff]

Why do enemies stop spawning after stage 49-50, wouldn't it be the opposite if the directors get basically unlimited money?

[glacial knoll]

Most Directors are told to skipSpawnIfTooCheap

To avoid spawning beetles on well stage 50

Tier 2 Scavengers are now too cheap, stop playing the run

[fierce bluff]

Ohhh, interesting

[marble magnet]

Does sulfer pools have varients? Y'know Like how distant root has 3

One variation wildly different from the other map

[glacial knoll]

Roost only has 2 variants but yeah noticible like parts of the map being gone. Don't think Sulfur has anything like that

[marble magnet]

Dang I swear it had something like that

[marble magnet]

Oh

Does the little bridge connecting a island not count? (One varient removes the bridge, one keeps it)

[glacial knoll]

I don't know if the community got a proper name for it. Roost and Plains have 2 different maps entirely. But then one variant yeah can have Bridge On or Off and Tunnel cave on or off idk what to call that

[marble magnet]

Mini variants?

[glacial knoll]

Sulfurpools randomization only includes the 3 newt altars and, 45 sulfur pods spots

[marble magnet]

Dang 45 is crazy

Tbh I never got why people hate the sulfer pods they don't do shit for damage lmoa

Id be more pressed about the blind pests

Anyway thank you

[glacial knoll]

20 to 35 pods spawn yea

[marble magnet]

I wish more maps had entirely different layouts between varients

They kinda just stopped doing that

[glacial knoll]

Treeborn got so many different branches but I have no idea what is and isn't one

[marble magnet]

I'm very sure there's not a totally different varient

I could just be dumb though they do blend together

[glacial knoll]

It chooses 1 of 5 paths and it choses 1 of 3 paths apparently

[marble magnet]

Interesting

Too bad it isn't that noticeable

Risk Of rain 2 is just that fluid that you don't really notice changes between runs

[glacial knoll]

Most are small paths that just connect the island right next to each other

and is it noticible if play captain and thought there'd be a path up

but not noticible otherwise

[marble magnet]

I see

I'm very sure helmeth hatchery has no varient

At all

[glacial knoll]

Activates 1 to 3 of a list of 3 small buildings

Tbh idk why they bother if it's not noticible but cool I guess

[marble magnet]

I never realised

Am I just

Blind

It's my favourite map I should've noticeddd

Well

Now I know that all maps practically have atleast mini variants of some kind

[glacial knoll]

well 1 to 3 means 33% of the time all are active and 1/3rd only 1 of the 3 so like yeah

Well Sulfur doesn't really, but it's more frequent than you'd expect

I like it the randomizitation on Aphelian, having an entire tower being gone and just a pool of water

[marble magnet]

Ooh yeaa

Tbh right

I think they just wanted to introduce map varients huge by making the first two stage 1 have completely different varients

And they just never did that again really

I think the most change after is sky meadow not having the massive bridge right?

[glacial knoll]

bridge underside and whether it's open or a circle is quite nice and noticible

[marble magnet]

Ohh right

God this game has so much map varients and stuff

[supple yoke]

Can you influence the level of chests thru clover? Ie more clover equals chance of legendary chest spawning on other stages?

[fierce bluff]

Legendary chests can only spawn on stage 4s from what I remember, although I did see like 2-3 leg. chests on stage 4s in a run with 8,but that's a question of its own.

[quasi topaz]

They can spawn on stage 4s or stage 5s

[fierce bluff]

Stage 5s?

[quasi topaz]

The stage 4 is garunteed (except sirens call), stage 5 is a chance

[fierce bluff]

Wow

[glacial knoll]

Clover does nothing for stage generation

[south wing]

When does the new dlc come to ps5?

[daring cloak]

We dont know when it will release

[glacial knoll]

When it releases on pc

[languid lotus]

hi does anyone have problem with loops when it crash your game...?

[quasi topaz]

When looping the game has to a lot in the background which may crash your game. If you plan on doing longer looped runs i would download the proper save mod which saves your run as you go from stage to stage

[languid lotus]

🤔 i see...thank you

[steady swallow]

does sale star work with captains hacking beacons?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[rough iris]

How much director credit does a large chest cost

I tried looking at the wiki, but it doesn't specify, just say all chest cost 45, but I assume it's different for all interactables?

[glacial knoll]

15 for small, 30 for big

No interactable costs 45 dunno where you saw that

[rough iris]

I see

[rough iris]

I saw this one table on the wiki that said chests cost 45, right after map

But I assume it's for smth else?

[glacial knoll]

must've been chest category weight not director cost

[rough iris]

Oh

That makes sense ye

[sand shell]

can someone explain to me why the new h0st skip didnt work for me? i was really struggling to get high enough. I think i was getting too much forward momentum as well. I was only making it to about the base of the rock branches that connect to the mythrix fight.

[frosty reef]

It depends on if you're using or not. Without, you won't be able to chain infinite height with the newly found spot unless your survivor has movement skills to aid it

[sand shell]

I did have headset, but I was playing captain so no movement ability.

[frosty reef]

Just make sure you're holding jump when you fall then. My stompers tech discovery and snek's crimson skip guide will help you out

[sand shell]

I think that must have been it, I wasnt holding jump, only sprint. I was using your tutorial from your tech discovery video and it worked great, really simple to follow

I'll try holding jump next time i have headstompers, thanks cap!

[glossy panther]

What's the best loadout for arti?

[quasi topaz]

I personally use default primary and secondary with alt special but pretty much anything works on her. If you are doing eclipse however I would 100% use alt special to skip pillars, otherwise do whatever

[thorny steeple]

you can pretty much use whatever you want (except alt primary)

in general though i run 2 loadouts with her depending on what im planning on doing

if i plan to fight a final boss as soon as possible with no loops (especially mithrix), then i take alt secondary and alt special for freezing and easy dodging

if i plan to loop with her and get a god run going, i take full default because their crowd control, damage, and proccing is more important to not get outscaled after looping

[glossy panther]

Can you go get an artifact after charging the teleporter in stage 5?
Or does it have to be beforehand

[glacial knoll]

you can use the laptop and portal before and after the teleporter. Just not during it

[west ermine]

how often do the green portal halcyon shrines show up?

can i loop and still find them?

[glacial knoll]

hard to give a % but most Stage 1s regardless of loop or not have one

else bazaar has guaranteed green portal, once per loop iirc

[lavish jacinth]

it's not once per loop, they only show up if you haven't used a green portal yet on that run

[glacial knoll]

the "took green portal" flag is currently unused, it's blocked by destroying the mini geodes specifically

[lavish jacinth]

oh weird

[glacial knoll]

checking; yeah mini geodes is once per run, additionally blocked by beating false son

[brittle shuttle]

im psure you can use geodes as much as you want each stage before false son

So like reformed altar > bazaar > geodes > treeborn colony > bazaar > geodes > prime meridian

Its what i was doin yesterday

[lavish jacinth]

every copy of ror2 is personalized

[west ermine]

wdym?

a green portal spawns in the bazaar?

[steady stone]

if you go into the bazaar and see the "You hear thunder rumbling," there are geodes hidden around, and although very hard to find naturally, will spawn a portal to the colossus path

[west ermine]

ohh i was wondering what that meant

[brittle shuttle]

i lied this doesnt happen? so i dont know what the fuck was happening yesterday

every copy of sots is personalized

[white helm]

Anyone know a good method to get to aurelionite im trying to unlock false son but i‘ve done like 10 runs so far always checked the bazaar and any gold statues or helcionite pillar thingys am i doing anything wrong or am i just crazy unlucky?

[lavish jacinth]

just unlucky

enabling command and sacrifice will slightly increase the spawnrate for shrines, but the bazaar is still the most reliable method

[scarlet dagger]

Yeah, it's called a skill issue.

Jkjkjk

[white helm]

Okay thx btw do u recommend just speedrunning to stage 5 with bazaar checking and shrine checking and then re doing or should i loop?

[lavish jacinth]

it won't really matter, getting more items from looping will generally make the fight easier overall and it won't affect the spawnrate

and once you have halcyon seed you can use the geodes in the bazaar for a guaranteed green portal, if you're on a valid stage for one.
I think the geodes don't spawn if you've already used a green portal on that run but I'm not sure, probably best to avoid them just in case though

(I thought going through a green portal prevented them from spawning but apparently that's not always the case, so I'm not totally sure what the rule is lol)

[white helm]

Okay thank you its just so infuriating cus i got the aurelionite thingy like back to back before i knew it was necessary for false son lol and now i didnt get it again in like 12 hours

[lavish jacinth]

welcome to rng hell lol

at least it's not as bad as it was before they added the bazaar geodes

[elfin zodiac]

I remember someone saying to remove a dlc if i want to play crit huntress, which dlc is it?

[fallen bridge]

both, since neither dlc adds items that boost crit chance (barring growth nectar)

[elfin zodiac]

ah aight thanks

[open dragon]

I am trying to beat mosoon but i dont have dlc what should i do

[lavish jacinth]

#1 tip would be to full loot every stage and don't rush, getting at least 1 item per minute is a good rule of thumb but it's okay to spend time on stuff like printers and scrappers or whatever. Basically just be as efficient as you can

[fallen bridge]

other than "keep trying", make sure to prioritize movement speed & damage over other items in addition to full looting

[lavish jacinth]

other than that, never stop moving, learn enemy attack patterns and stage layouts so you can get around quickly and avoid attacks

[open dragon]

Who should i use

[lavish jacinth]

anyone, every survivor is viable so it's really up to preference

[fallen bridge]

you will most likely do better w/ whoever you are most comfortable playing rather than a "good" survivor

[lavish jacinth]

^^^

Loader is probably the "best" out of the basegame survivors, but she's got a bit of a learning curve, you might have an easier time with someone else

[pearl delta]

any mithrix advice? i feel like dodging his quick dash attacks is essentially impossible without a feather or a movement ability like huntress dash

[fallen bridge]

he can be tough w/o decent movement speed, but you can predict some of his abilities & ensure you are clear of the dangerous ones

[lavish jacinth]

#ror2-game-questions message

if you don't have enough speed to actively dodge his attacks, stay near the ramps and stay above him

[pearl delta]

i see tysm!

[steep basin]

Does Pocket ICMB affect engineers seeking missiles?

[fallen bridge]

ya

[steep basin]

Swag

Legalize nuclear bombs

[marble magnet]

how much wungus is too much wungus on fiend?

[lavish jacinth]

1

unless you just hate being in corrupt form

[marble magnet]

Oke

[urban oar]

does artifact of sacrifice make scrappers just never spawn or am i losing my fucking mind?

[glacial knoll]

Command does but Sacrifice doesn't

[crisp timber]

Scrappers can still spawn in sacrifice

[fallen bridge]

yah just sounds like you are getting unlucky

[urban oar]

dammit

how the hell do i get any value outta prayer beads then?

[glacial knoll]

Im guessing command then, which well like, now you know to not pick it

you could use cauldrons a bunch ig

[fallen bridge]

verdant falls guaranteed scrapper/large chest or gambling at soups

[crisp timber]

Blind soup till prayer beads is gone

Based based based

[glacial knoll]

Viscious Falls doesn't tho

[urban oar]

i guess i do now know not to take it

so i suppose I loop till I can hit the scrapper

[humble kiln]

im a bit confused. do only the tranguility stacks give a buff to all stats or is saving grace its own stat boost for a total of 14%?

[glacial knoll]

I'll correct it, it's specifically Saving Grace and game also says so on loadout

[humble kiln]

ah, so palm blast = no stat boost

[glacial knoll]

yeah

[humble kiln]

kinda hoped it wasnt THAT much worse than meditate but oh well

[neon terrace]

Hello @glacial knoll , I'm getting some errors with the mod, can you help me?

[next snow]

What commando abilities should I aim for

[ancient iron]

Guys, is the R of captain worse then the lunar item R skill?

Like if the range of the skill does not increase then it looks kinda bad

[hoary sedge]

if you're at a point in the run where you don't need your beacons anymore then essence is pretty good yeah

[coarse fox]

Alt utility, much better than roll

[frosty reef]

Depends if you know how to effectively speedshoot or not

[tender temple]

id still keep beacons even besides the tech

personally that is

[glossy panther]

What are some of the equipment that are consistently great in general?
So far I found a great source of damage and band proccer, especially with multiple stacks of
I also found these to be useful

[honest badger]

captain's special is really good depending on your loadout but falls off in later stages

id say it's better to switch to ruin at stage 4, 3 if you're crazy with it

[honest badger]

Widely considered the best:
Best non-economy: seed of life
Honorable mentions:

[solid nova]

i dont really like ruin on captain but i can definitely see it being good

[solid nova]

i think that preon can be decent but its cooldown makes it so annoying to work with, id say that capacitor is probably a slightly better damage equipment just for consistency

[honest badger]

volcanic egg and primordial cube are still useful but generally worse than a preon or crowdfunder imo

[honest badger]

yea, that's why i put them in different tiers

[solid nova]

although preon is very nutty when it works

[glossy panther]

I don't think I've seen susprite and preon yet

[honest badger]

you need to unlock them

[solid nova]

fuck mb dude i didnt see that you put it on the list 😭

[glossy panther]

Preon is the 10 minute rallypoint delta one?

[honest badger]

For preon, get to and open the timed security chest in rallypoint delta (stage 3) in under ten minutes. It spawns in a select 3 spots every time once you get there

For sprite, get a wood shrine to tier 3

Unless that's a different unlock wait

[solid nova]

no i think youre right

yeah youre right i just checked

[glossy panther]

I've done that achievement a while ago but I don't recall seing it

[solid nova]

hmmm

[honest badger]

there are some items I just never get

rng is like that

[glossy panther]

Oooh it's called the gnarl woodsprite

I see now yeah

It's amogus

[solid nova]

yea

[honest badger]

oh, btw. forgive me please and remote caffeinator are only good if your build synergizes with them. so they're not consistent, but have insane synergies

like soulbound catalyst + forgive me please is a good one

[glossy panther]

Such as firecrcaker build or smth?

[honest badger]

yeah fireworks are amazing with caffeinator

so are squid polyps

[solid nova]

i adore caffeinator builds

[west ermine]

the tonic debuff only applies when the tonic isnt on righT?

[steady stone]

yeah

[wintry fjord]

Is there skips on false son like there is on mithrix

[fallen bridge]

to get up to the arena?

[wintry fjord]

No like skip the phases

[lavish jacinth]

other than captain skipping phases with diablo, no

(afaik)

[fallen bridge]

sometimes you can ""skip"" phase 3 in such a way that the fight has "ended" but false son will still be alive & aggroed

[wintry fjord]

Also how does p4 skip work because sometimes I get it and sometimes I don't

[lavish jacinth]

you have to kill him on the exact frame that phase 4 starts, before his invincibility activates

[fallen bridge]

you just have to damage him

persistent aoe dmg like kjaro/sojourn/chef cleavers are the easiest way

[lavish jacinth]

kjaro's band hits it consistently because its hitbox checks for targets on every frame, but otherwise you kinda just have to get lucky or have insanely good timing

[fallen bridge]

frost relic too but that is predicated on killing mithrix's spawns

[lavish jacinth]

afaik that behavior is unique to kjaro's, other lingering hitboxes don't do that

most of them just have a hitbox that "flickers" and deals damage at specific intervals

[fallen bridge]

i am pretty sure other aoes work like that?

[lavish jacinth]

I'm actually not sure about frost relic, but I know most of them don't work that way

[lavish jacinth]

top 5 imo, in no particular order: with honorable mention to . But it depends on what your run needs and what you have to work with

[honest badger]

pcube is a rare choice in these lists

[little pine]

i like to give primordial cube to equipment drones

[brittle shuttle]

pcube is like right under the top of the tierlist on equipments imo

[honest badger]

ive never had any use for it besides drones tbh

[lavish jacinth]

It's better on drones yeah

But it's still really good

[unreal needle]

can you reroll dreams in the shop?

[daring cloak]

No

[unreal needle]

._.

i try to get the green one where you can get the item for false son unlock, ive been in around 60-80 shops and it never was available in the dreams...

[lavish jacinth]

rip

it's roughly a 10% chance per visit so that's just really unlucky

[unreal needle]

[brittle shuttle]

iirc wolfo said 15% per as long as you havent killed false son yet

[unreal needle]

i havent

[brittle shuttle]

plus if youre on the patch of the colossus any halcyon shrines that spawn there (which are more common on potc i believe) give you a gold portal

so try to take path of the colossus but back out before false son as much as possible

[lavish jacinth]

it's a 5% chance for each seer unless they changed it

[unreal needle]

btw is green portal the one that takes you to the jade stage?

[brittle shuttle]

green portal takes you to the path of the colossus (reformed altar, treeborn colony, prime meridian)

[lavish jacinth]

gold portal is the one that takes you to gilded coast

[unreal needle]

._.

ok

acc found the green one not the gold one...

the gilded coast dream is the green one tho right?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

looks like this (no, I don't know why they made the gold-themed stage look green)

[daring cloak]

Because its like dim

[unreal needle]

ok ok

[glacial knoll]

sots added a extra 10% chance

[lavish jacinth]

ah

so wait, does that mean it's 15% per seer?

or an overall +10% for either seer to have it

[unreal needle]

whats a good way to farm lunar coins.... i got like 10 left

[lavish jacinth]

edit your save file

[unreal needle]

speedrun to obelisk?

[lavish jacinth]

or farm false son and mithrix on drizzle

[glacial knoll]

dont use as many and just keep winning

[unreal needle]

i need one each time to summon the shop.... i cant use not as many

[glacial knoll]

then don't go each time

[lavish jacinth]

you only get 5 from obliterating but final bosses give 10 each

[glacial knoll]

it would be 15 yeah the chance is just added together

[unreal needle]

its fr 15%??

alr no coins left still no gilded cost... this feels like a scam

[glacial knoll]

it costs 1 per stage how did you go through 10 coins in 10 minutes

[unreal needle]

im doing stage one where i know most spots and redo once i dont get it

and go with mercenary for fast movement+

i need like 30secs to 1 min each time

also on easy difficulty

[lavish jacinth]

ok, but it takes another 90 seconds to charge the teleporter and get to the bazaar

[unreal needle]

then i somehow use more than 1 each time to spawn the shop idk

[lavish jacinth]

hmm

[unreal needle]

or ive bought smth without noticing idk

im doing this sicne like 3 days for 2-4 hours each day idk anything anymore

[lavish jacinth]

I wonder if gilded coast just can't spawn in the bazaar from stage 1? I'm pretty sure it should, but you can't get gold shrines on stage 1 so maybe stage 1 gilded just isn't ever a thing

[unreal needle]

could be

but i dont think so since i saw someone do it in a vid

[lavish jacinth]

either way it wouldn't be a bad idea to do 2 stages per attempt, you have a decent chance of getting a random lunar coin drop in that time

[unreal needle]

good idea

tho im out of coins for now

[glacial knoll]

they can be in the bazaar after stage 1

[unreal needle]

wait you can edit your safe file?

[glacial knoll]

do you even have sots bro

how did you fail a 28% chance like 20 times

[unreal needle]

more than 20

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, are you sure it's enabled lol

[unreal needle]

how do i disable it? i bought it and have seeker

im sure its enabled

[lavish jacinth]

on the character select, same way you enable artifacts

[lavish jacinth]

yeah it should be on

[unreal needle]

dont i have it on?

ok

[lavish jacinth]

and yeah, it's just a text file. You can just open it in notepad or use an online save editor, just ctrl+f for lunar coins and set it to whatever you want (as long as it's less than 2,147,483,647)

just make a backup copy before you mess with it to be safe

[unreal needle]

ok good to know, then imma just give myself some new coins and continue

[lavish jacinth]

saves are at C:\Program Files(x86)\Steam\userdata[Number]\632360\remote\UserProfiles

[unreal needle]

it opens an edge file for me

[steady stone]

right click the file, "open with" notepad

[unreal needle]

ohh ok

[steady stone]

the coin value should be under "coin=" or "coins=" iirc

[lavish jacinth]

this is what you're looking for

[unreal needle]

ah alr thx

[lavish jacinth]

oh yeah, and be careful not to set it too high. If your coins are at 2,147,483,647 and you pick up one more, it'll overflow and give you negative coins lol

nothing another save-edit can't fix but you won't be able to spend any more coins on that run

[unreal needle]

i just put it to 300 now

should be eneugh

[bright marsh]

hi im new to the game i have watch some vid about agents and i realy wann to unlock loader can someone help me with it please ?

[brittle shuttle]

help you as in run a multiplayer game?

if so i have time to kill

[bright marsh]

yea

[brittle shuttle]

109775243161093820

[bright marsh]

eee what is that

[brittle shuttle]

copy that, then open up multiplayer and click join clipboard lobby

this is of course assuming youre on pc

[bright marsh]

yea im on pc

give me a min

[brittle shuttle]

aight then yeah jus do that

[brittle shuttle]

109775243162984609 @bright marsh

[fresh umbra]

If you have 1 watch and 1 power elixir, and you take lethal damage, does the watch still break?

(Assuming no OSP)

[crisp timber]

yes

[cinder pasture]

does halycron shrine take up credits for chests?

[sharp mica]

So, as a new player to this game (Been playing for a week now)

I did this pattern getting the Elite-Artifact... but the pattern isn't changing? How else do I get patterns for other artifacts? As I believe it each pattern corresponds to a different artifact

[lavish jacinth]

yes, but if you fully charge it, the value of the items it gives will be more than the credit cost

[daring cloak]

Find em in other places in other stages

[lavish jacinth]

the other codes are hidden throughout the game

[daring cloak]

Or even places outside of stages

[cinder pasture]

yeah that makes sense i spawned in to a map with 1 halycron and 6 chests

[sharp mica]

I have never seen a single one in my 80 hours of gameplay

[lavish jacinth]

or just look them up, the wiki has all the codes and a hint guide if you wanna find them yourself https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifacts

[sharp mica]

[sharp mica]

I wanna find them naturally

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, they are hidden

[sharp mica]

But, this might take my hours and days XD

[lavish jacinth]

none of them are too hard to find but they're generally not in plain sight

and the wiki hint guide can help if you're stuck, without telling you exactly where they are

although if you want a tip to narrow it down, none of the DLC stages have codes, but almost all of the basegame ones do except for sundered grove

[sharp mica]

I dont know how to read the wiki from what I saw, like where do I start?! it has CH VE and other letters but even the page's description at the top has not helped me understand where to start this goose chase

[lavish jacinth]

usually the first hint tells you what stage (or other part of the game) it's in, second hint gives a general idea of where in the stage, third hint is pretty much the exact location

[quasi topaz]

isn't there one on the sots stage 1 or is verdant falls not sots

[lavish jacinth]

nope

it's verdant falls

Actually there is one SotS-only artifact, but it's not obtained the same way as the others

[quasi topaz]

Under the waterfall at the edge of the map

Bottom right

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, verdant falls is basegame

[quasi topaz]

ah, took it as you saying it wasn't base game

[kindred herald]

Wait are base game stage 1s titanic plains distant roose and verdant

that’s such whiplash lmao

[lavish jacinth]

Verdant was originally meant to be part of SotS, but they added it for free in the Devotion update instead

[kindred herald]

2 stages from games release and then one highly polished one with brighter colors and guaranteed loot and more credits

[quasi topaz]

verdant feels like it should be a stage 2

[kindred herald]

to me thats what Impact feels like

impact is WAY too huge

[lavish jacinth]

idk, verdant feels closer to a stage 1 in size

impact and siphoned are more stage 2-ish

[quasi topaz]

its about the same size as aqueduct no? At least it feels that way

verdant has a little more verticality

[kindred herald]

the thing with impact is how hard it is to see shit from a distance and how many nooks and crannies you have to check

siphoneds probably my favorite stage 1

[lavish jacinth]

verdant is pretty small but it has a lot of surface area

[quasi topaz]

You like blind pests?

[kindred herald]

yeah

I walk in a circle and they don’t hit me and I get more loot

I think verdant is also significantly more engaging to travel through then impact with more fun visuals

[quasi topaz]

I swear any time I play merc on eclipse i have a 90% chance of getting siphoned over any other stage 1

[kindred herald]

genuinely I kind of hate playing on roost knowing I could be on siphoned or verdant instead

[lavish jacinth]

I really wish they'd rebalance stage credits

[kindred herald]

add a new enemy to roosts / plains and make them not have a higher weight then the others pls

[lavish jacinth]

like, if they wanna make ~300 credits the new standard, then fine, whatever. But don't make plains and roost worse for no reason

[kindred herald]

they’re also just soooo much more boring

it takes like 2 seconds to see the entirety of plains

at least on verdant falls I dna entertain myself looking in the cave and jumping up to the higher areas and checking the scrapper / large chest and looking at the area under the flowers

man I wish things spawned in the first 10 minutes of a run

[quasi topaz]

The director is saving up for elites trust

[dapper bison]

I feel like impact is kinda titanic plains sized. Though yeah more intricate.

Oops

Fixed my point. Eepy brain

[kindred herald]

it’s not

it’s huge

[lavish jacinth]

it's probably closer to siphoned forest

[dapper bison]

Siphoned doesn’t feel that much larger than plains

To me at least. I haven’t really looked into it tho

[cinder pasture]

how do i play acrid. i literally cant figure it out. i can play most melee xor ranged characters but not melee/ranged character

[fallen bridge]

acrid's optimal playstyle is unfortunately pretty boring, just spam epidemic into crowds & repeatedly spit at whatever the biggest enemy on screen is

[cinder pasture]

that. sucks.

[fallen bridge]

yah ... the slightly riskier strategy is to do that but additionally use your utility + m1 cancelling on big enemies

acrid also builds kinda silly ... they do not get as much benefit from procs as other survivors but dmg multipliers like etc also boost poison damage, which makes them very strong

[lavish jacinth]

if you wanna play him more aggressively, then his gameplay mostly comes down to target priority and situational awareness.
Use your primary for dps against big targets and use leap to get in and out of fights as needed, spam m2 and R to poison groups of enemies, and get drones and AoE items to finish off anything that's weakened by poison

Procs are still good on him because procs are always good, but getting multipliers to boost poison damage is really strong

Overall he's probably the least item-dependent character in the game since poison scales with enemy HP, plus he's got good built-in mobility and bit of healing

[next snow]

Is there a nice slick guide for procs and stuff

Whats proc efficient

What does lunar ruin do?

[mellow crystal]

+10% damage taken per stack, stacks like bleed (applying a new stack refreshes the duration for all of them)

[mellow crystal]

It's a multiplier on every attack for the chance of on-hit items triggering

[next snow]

Whats the duration of lunar ruin (one)

[mellow crystal]

So for example an attack with a 0.5 proc coeff would have a 5% chance to trigger one instead of 10%

[mellow crystal]

5-6 seconds?
I forgot which one since iirc the in-game desc is one second off from the actual duration

[next snow]

That's not good.. right?

[mellow crystal]

Nop
It's mostly there to balance rapid-hitting attacks like mul-t nailgun firing 12 times per second

Which is also why commando and captain are such good proccers

(and still mul-t nailgun)

[next snow]

Do you increase the proc coeff

So like, theres 2.0

[unreal needle]

just did aurelionite, if i go into the green portal i go to the route having false son right?

[next snow]

Yes!

[mellow crystal]

There are exactly 3 abilities with a proc coeff higher than 1

Railgunner cryocharge has 1.5, and supercharge has 3.0
And if you do the airborne version of false son slam, falling for 0.5s before landing it gives it a 1.5 proc coeff

Oh wait right chef has >1 too

[next snow]

Soo, the proc coeff is linked to abilities?

Not items themselves

[mellow crystal]

Yeah chef cleavers have 1.5 when boosted/held-returning too

[mellow crystal]

Anything that deals damage has a proc coeff

[next snow]

If i m1 commando abiliity , then theres no proc coeff

[unreal needle]

the seed turned into aurelionite, does this still count torwards the quest to get false son?

[next snow]

Oh okay okay

[mellow crystal]

Some things do have a 0.0 proc coeff tho
comes to mind

[next snow]

That meanss 0% of happening for bleed?

[mellow crystal]

That's how auri is supposed to work during the fight so yes

[next snow]

Should I like care much about proc coeff

[unreal needle]

ah ok good to know

[mellow crystal]

For casual play you can just ignore it
Unless it's a major factor in why an ability is bad, i.e. arrow rain

[next snow]

Thank you for the help.

[frank depot]

when new dlc

[fierce bluff]

Is recycler re rolling an item in its rarity or not(example:red re rolls to red)

[lavish jacinth]

Yes, it can't change the rarity of an item

[fierce bluff]

What about void items? Does the recycler not care about their rarity at all?

[lavish jacinth]

Probably this year, release date hasn't been announced

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, void items have sub-rarities based on the item they replace, and recycler won't change that rarity either

So a white void item can only reroll into another white void, for example

[fierce bluff]

Makes it 1000x worse for 'em

You're basically only re rolling singularity band and hoping for a shrimp

Or polylute maybe

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, does it really matter? there aren't many voids you would reroll

[fierce bluff]

Lost seer and benthic for me

And you can get voidsent without any aoe

[lavish jacinth]

If you do recycle a void item it's very likely to turn into something much better, regardless of tier

[fierce bluff]

Can regular boss items turn into pearls?

And vice versa

[steady stone]

pearls have their own pools, which is visible in command

so no

[fierce bluff]

[steady stone]

the other case of this that comes to mind is lunar equipment and items being separate, and the void tiers

[lavish jacinth]

When you reroll an item it'll use the same item pool you'd see with command

[proven prairie]

im feeling silly, how can i make the entire us military using command? (using stuff like icbms clovers and missiles)

[lavish jacinth]

Uh, pick vaguely military-themed items, I guess?

War bonds, maybe drone parts

[proven prairie]

also what is a strategy for getting smushed achievemen/diablo strike?

[cobalt quiver]

drizzle + artifact of command + artifact of swarms.
dont take on hit items or offensive drones/allies (beetle, aurelionite)

[proven prairie]

What are some good items I should get? I always try to play command but I always don’t know what to pick

[lusty garden]

Is there an official tier list of items that are good and not good?

[mellow crystal]

Not really because it changes depending on what survivor you're playing and what other items you have

I'd scrap tritip on loader but it is far from a bad white item

I'd scrap 4 predatory instincts if I have no crit, unless I'm playing commando

I'd scrap literally any non-pearl health item unless I'm playing false son

You get the point

[lusty garden]

alright, tysm

[celest isle]

I mean unless using false son bison steak is fairly useless

And if ur using command there's defo certain gold items u should be picking over the others

[west ermine]

Is there any downside to stacking longstanding solitude

[daring cloak]

Yes it takes more money to level up, unless they changed that

[west ermine]

thats not what it says

i am using looking glass tho

just says that things that cost gold cost more gold

but i dont use gold

so why does that matter

[daring cloak]

Yeah its not mentioned

Maybe it doesnt even exist anymore but it definitely did in previous versions

[west ermine]

I'm using it now and don't have any gold to buy stuff with in the first place

[daring cloak]

Yes

[dapper bison]

Longstanding is a bit weird. Especially on solo

[dapper bison]

Oh so— it gets converted immediately to xp. Presumably the cost of the xp goes up, which scales the level up then? I dunno. This is the first I’m hearing about it myself.

[glacial knoll]

Lookingglass tells you the wrong stats atm anyways unless you just mean the description

[west ermine]

its the same as the wiki

unless the wiki is wrong

[glacial knoll]

yeah you just mean the description

it says here

tho these values in game so might be outdated but i'll see

hard to gauge wether commands is entirely accurate but like no it'd take less money to level up I guess?

[daring cloak]

This is outdated I think

The higher your level the more gold it takes to level up

[glacial knoll]

that is definitely true yeah

but ig stacking it doesn't have any downsides it seems, for solo

It takes 209 dollars for level 1 to level 2 what

i don't understand this item bro

never mind it's not true huh

it's just 208.33 dollars

[daring cloak]

What 😭

[glacial knoll]

I was just misreading because I didn't understand it but giving 209 dollars consistently gives me a level on stage 1

why is it capped at 8

why wouldn't the increased chest cost be like accounted for for the money it uses

[unreal needle]

is the quest for false son defeat mithrix with ... bugged? i did it but it didnt count

[brittle shuttle]

you have to let auri kill mithrix while he las lunar ruin applied

[unreal needle]

he had 20 applied and i let auri finish

[lavish jacinth]

Are you absolutely sure that auri got the last hit?

[coral niche]

does anyone have any recommendations for who I should start playing eclipse with? or should I just play with whoever im best at

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, just whoever you're best at

Maybe not Rex though, unless you just wanna rip that band-aid off right away

[kindred herald]

fwiw the first level of eclipse is almost just monsoon

[lavish jacinth]

Pretty much, engineer is the only one who's even slightly affected by e1

e4 is when it actually starts to get noticeably more difficult, the first 3 are kinda just inconvenient

[quasi topaz]

This is why I dont have all the survivor logs. I just do eclipse which gets me the skin and the level

[unreal needle]

im about to do it again now, how long does the effect stay?

[lavish jacinth]

Iirc 5 seconds, but it refreshes whenever a new stack is added. Try to apply it right before auri attacks in order to minimize the damage you deal

can also help buff auri's dps, preferably on an equipment drone

[unreal needle]

but its the effect from the m2 right?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[unreal needle]

alr now i got the phase again.. i pray that i dont choke again

[lavish jacinth]

Gl

That achievement is a pain in the ass

[unreal needle]

... aureli attack too early...

you get the achievement right after mithrix goes down right?

it looked like aureli killed but prob not

[lavish jacinth]

iirc yeah

[unreal needle]

yeah didnt get it

[lavish jacinth]

rip

That might be one of the worst challenges in the game ngl

If not the worst

[unreal needle]

yeah tried it again its rough, the tick dmg from the m2 makes it really hard since even if aureli attacks the tick is prioritized

[celest isle]

Just got sots and im really torn between yes chef primary or glaze choice anyone know which one is actually higher dps?

[kindred herald]

Yes chef imo

[celest isle]

Can yes chef primary proc

[kindred herald]

Wlmost everything can proc

[lavish jacinth]

Yes chef cleavers have a 2.25 proc coeff

[celest isle]

WHAT

Thats so cap

[lavish jacinth]

It's supposed to be 1.5 but it's bugged, either way it's really strong

Yes chef is pretty much always better

[radiant frigate]

does obliterating count as a victory for mastery?

[lavish jacinth]

Yes, if it's on monsoon difficulty

[radiant frigate]

awesome thanks

[unreal needle]

I GOT IT, ngl this achievement is waay too rng focused, like getting the seed is already an pain and the rng to not finish mithrix with the lunar is crazy, also i think this is a good trick, making him low while aureli charges the beam and right before you hit him with the lunar

[loud rock]

Question is there a way to leave the void locus after entering i ended there by mistake after being curious it showed up in the bizarre but I don't want to end my run this way

[fallen bridge]

void locus? no, you must travel to the planetarium after & you cannot leave

[loud rock]

Sadness

[marble magnet]

How long should I keep (1) stack of prayers beads for

[unreal needle]

for the captain mithrix kill challenge, does the first phase count too or only the last one?

[marble magnet]

Last one

[unreal needle]

where he collects the items or before?

[marble magnet]

Steals items yes

[unreal needle]

alr alr thx

[marble magnet]

Prioritize not getting items that give damaging debuffs Like bleed or collapse if you are strictly going for the achievement

[unreal needle]

im doing a monsoon run so ill just try if i can get it too tho its not the main focus

[ionic spoke]

I have a question owo
How does the elixir works without one shot protection? Cuz i died by a scavenger with preon and none of my 4 elixirs got consumed owo

[brittle shuttle]

they heal you if youre low
if your hp jumps clear by the 25% mark to the 0% mark theres nothing to heal

you are dead

[kindred herald]

elixir only heals you when you fall beneath the threshold
if you go past the threshold and never stop under it (I.e, at 0)
No chance to trigger

[brittle shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-lose-you-get-nothing-empty-good-day-sir-mad-gif-16171682

you get no elixir

you lose

[ionic spoke]

[kindred herald]

what probably happened with the scav is the preon tendrils hit u before the main orb

preon ball deals damage to things around it before hitting them

[lavish jacinth]

usually around 20 stacks of the beads buff is a good time to cash them in. That'll give you 3-4 levels worth of stats, and beads require more xp for each level just like player levels do, so gaining stacks is usually pretty slow past lv20

iirc the stats you gain depends on how many stacks of beads (the item, not the buff) you have when you scrap them, so it could be worth it to try to get another stack of prayer beads depending on the situation, but it's probably better to just scrap them

[marble magnet]

Thank u

[flat summit]

is the radio scanner on Disturbed Impact bugged or is my luck just horrible
5 trips on a single run with both Command and Sacrifice on to maximize odds and yet nothing

in addition to the 7 other trips under the same conditions in prior runs

[autumn thicket]

is artificer fun just got them

[lavish jacinth]

She can be a little harder to play than other survivors but she's pretty fun once you learn her imo, but obviously fun is subjective

[lavish jacinth]

Disturbed impact log was fixed iirc, so just bad luck

[fallen bridge]

i personally like her a lot but ya fun is completely subjective

[autumn thicket]

okay using her rn im liking it but with the flying can i not fly up?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, only hover

her alt special allows her to launch into the air though

[autumn thicket]

oh dang

[lavish jacinth]

the hover by itself is still useful though, it helps if you can use your environment to gain height (or just get or something)

[cobalt quiver]

movement (goat hoofs, hopoo feather, etc.) and damage multipliers (ap rounds, focus crystal, delicate watch, lens maker glasses, crowbar, etc.).
also maybe a chronobauble to make it easier to aim the beacons.
and maybe a dio's best friend so if you miss both beacons you can kill yourself to reset the charges

oh wait no need for dio and bauble hes gonna take it anyways

[lavish jacinth]

if you just mean good items in general and not specifically for that achievement, then anything that multiplies damage is a safe bet (either direct multipliers like etc. or total damage procs etc.). The more variety you have, the better, although it's good to go for stuff that synergizes with your character or fills a gap in their kit, like crowbars for burst characters and bleed for rapid proccers, or AoE items for survivors that don't deal with crowds well.
And obviously mobility items and healing as needed

but if you're running command then it's pretty hard to go wrong, so you can also just experiment and pick whatever seems like fun

[agile crystal]

question channel is dead today damn

[weary cloud]

if engineer has empathy cores, does it spawn more cores?

[lavish jacinth]

no, turrets don't inherit items that passively summon minions

[weary cloud]

ok ty

[fallen bridge]

except zoea

[lavish jacinth]

oh right

[steady stone]

isnt that specifically with uhh larva tho

or do they also inherit the zoea itself

ive always been curious how that works

[fallen bridge]

i think they just inherit zoea outright?

i can test in like 20 min

[steady stone]

i can test it now

it seems like they dont inherit it outright

[fallen bridge]

oh that is interesting

[rough aspen]

How has the base blind pest killed me more than anything else

[steady stone]

it's pretty accurate, high base damage, and strange movement that might make it harder to hit

[fierce bluff]

I remember seeing blue void enemies either in the logboom or somewhere else, where do they come from? Newly Hatched Zoea?

[fallen bridge]

ya, zoea

[dusky ocean]

is there a way to destroy void items

[mellow crystal]

is your best bet

but that also eats all of your other items

[fallen bridge]

gambling at shrine of order ....

go my 52 medkits

[proven prairie]

what items are best with chef (im playing full default loadout)

[fallen bridge]

cleavers are bugged to have a 2.25 proc co on the charged return trip, so on-hit proc items like etc. are extremely strong

[fierce bluff]

Doesn't destroy voids, based on their own rarity instead

[fallen bridge]

instead of a singularity band, a polylute, & a shrimp you now have 3 shrimp & no polylute/band

[weak kettle]

ik it doesnt go here but it loks like tech support is dead, why did everything reset :/ i had everyone except for chef

also dont have any artifacts

oh everything is reset

i dont have any items unlocked either

oml im stupid 💀 nvm guys

[mellow crystal]

it was the wrong profile wasn't it

[bright marsh]

hii can i aks you we played yesterday you helpt me unlock loader in need to know what character where you plaing i will buy the whole dlc just for him tell me pls ?

[clear whale]

Is the character gray and tall

[bright marsh]

kinda mayba but he has some laser

[clear whale]

Does the character has a single big yellow eye on his face

[bright marsh]

eeeeeee maybe probably yea

[clear whale]

And does he wear a cape and looks like this

[bright marsh]

yeaaaaaa

what dlc i nedd to get him?

[clear whale]

Seekers of the Storm

Actually buy both the DLCs

SotV has more items but LAME bosses

SotS has less items but COOL survivors and boss

[proven prairie]

good red for CHEF? im trying to get ice box

[tender temple]

reds dont matter for ice box

just take whatever

[proven prairie]

then what reds are good for chef?

[tender temple]

any good reds

[rancid fog]

how do i counter the big jellyfish boss aoe attack which takes bunch of health at once the range of his domain is really really big

[mellow crystal]

get behind cover
the game will show shadows where you can hide

[rancid fog]

oh

ight

[mellow crystal]

that also applies to another enemy with a big bright shadow-making attack btw

[fierce bluff]

Does anyone know why's this island there?

[daring cloak]

Its accessible in other variants of the map when the door to it is open

[fierce bluff]

Ooohhhhh

I'm stupid

[next snow]

how to get to gilded coast fast

[steady stone]

Try to go to the Bazaar to maximize your chance of getting a Lunar Seer for the stage, and use artifact of command so there's no chests to raise your odds

[next snow]

Got it, thanks

[spice jungle]

Does anyone have any tips for beating the game as CHEF on monsoon?

[fallen bridge]

proc items like etc trivialize the game because of chef's bugged proc co, but barring that make sure to focus on the normal survival items & ( too sometimes)

running icebox (alt secondary) also makes mithrix much easier because of how strong freeze is

(& also just make sure you are familiar w/ general tips, like full looting etc)

[bright marsh]

oke oke but thats like 30 euor is there any bandle or any keys to get it cheaper?

[fallen bridge]

they go on sale quite a bit, just keep an eye on the steam page

[steady stone]

bugged proc coeff?

[fallen bridge]

ya, charged return & boosted dice has a 2.25 proc co instead of 1.5

[steady stone]

jesus...

[fierce bluff]

Funny

[little pine]

Can collapse trigger bands?

[lavish jacinth]

No, damage from status effects can't proc

[little pine]

Awww

[bright marsh]

hi i have bought that void somthing dlc and in runn whit friends i have ben geting some void items on a balls that costs 50% of my hp but now in solo run im on the 3 map and still 0 is it bug or just im unlucky?

[lavish jacinth]

unlucky, and you also get more loot when you have more players so they'll be more likely to appear in multiplayer

[bright marsh]

ou thx : D

[next snow]

How do I play void fiend...

[quasi topaz]

Keep his Corruption bar around 60-75% and learn when to go into his corrupted form based on what's around you

[fallen bridge]

they have very good survivability in uncorrupted form w/ the very spammable healing, & very good dps in corrupted form w/ the m1 ... you build them kinda like commando but taking less healing than normal (since they already have a very good basekit heal & healing reduces corruption)

crit & void items bolster your corruption so keep an eye out for those as well

also remember that trespass (utility) cleanses debuffs & grants iframes so you can use that if you are in a pinch (collapsing from a voidtouched elite, burning from a blazing elite, etc)

[lavish jacinth]

#ror2-game-questions message link to a guide explaining him in detail, if you want

[next snow]

Thank you.

[spice jungle]

What is his proc co?

[lavish jacinth]

cleavers boosted by Yes Chef have a proc coefficient of 2.25

(proc coefficient being a hidden stat that multiplies the chance for on-hit effects to occur, if you didn't know. It also affects debuff duration and a few other miscellaneous things)

[fallen bridge]

(also charged cleavers on the return trip)

[copper pivot]

hey ive got around half of my characters at e8 rn but a problem i alwaysseem to have when completing e8 is dealing with false son. Does anyone have any tips to help make his first phase a little easier? I can dodge lasers but I just get hella eclipse stacks in phase one if i dont clear it in like 30 seconds (only if im op tbh)

[fallen bridge]

fighting false son is your problem, he is made so much harder & more tedious from eclipse

[copper pivot]

Oh i should have specified i apologize Im just doing false son included while using the umbral mithrix mod just like a little challenge of mine so it has to be with false son in it

[fallen bridge]

i would recommend:
a. using the geode cheese strategy for phase 1, since it is by far the worst phase
b. only fighting him if you have extensive boss control (singularity/runald band, freeze, etc)
c. prioritizing lots of mobility items before fighting him

as for actual tips besides cheeses & lots of boss control &/or mobility, you just kinda have to pray you beat phase 1

[copper pivot]

And then u have to deal with that nefarious ass third phase 💔

[fallen bridge]

3rd phase is not horrible w/o auri, just always have a geode immediately nearby

[lavish jacinth]

having some sort of respawnable minion is also still really useful, unless his AI magically gets less stupid in eclipse lol

[copper pivot]

And thank you this is very helpful, I do proritize my items to mainly boss control/mobil just to prepare for false son since preparing for him is like 2x harder than umbral but I will check into the geode cheese strat

[fallen bridge]

chronobauble helps a ton w/ false son in general, esp in eclipse

[copper pivot]

Nah tbh geodes not the problem there i always keep watch and have one nearby its just when it lasers he turns into usain bolt

And if i dont have a stun type thing or something he will just bend me over

[fallen bridge]

ya if you are fighting false son it is genuinely worth keeping polyp for a quick emergency aggro source

[copper pivot]

I do this maybe its just a skill issue

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah false son is just kinda BS in eclipse. afaik he has very few restrictions on when he can attack and pretty much spams everything off cooldown, I think he can even animation-cancel some of his attacks (not as badly as halcyonite, but still)

[copper pivot]

Bro getting beetle guard I never thought id have such a reaction to dropping it on my runs

[lavish jacinth]

compare that to mithrix who has really long endlag on a lot of his attacks, and has some rules about not using the same attack twice in a row and stuff

[copper pivot]

Beetle guard best Distraction he makes phase one a walk in the park

[copper pivot]

Yeaaa i agree with all of this

[fallen bridge]

i would rather have halcyonite-only stage than fight false son w/o mobility in eclipse

[copper pivot]

no mobil i just restart usually

unless my damage is like out of this world and i might have a chance

Or some dios etc

Alright im gonna give it another go lets hope i get this mul-t done

[fallen bridge]

if you lack helpful items, there is a spot where phase 1 false son will get stuck between a geode & a pillar, by far the best way of beating him in eclipse

[spice jungle]

That is really good! And I did indeed succeed in my mission and thank you for the help!

[glossy panther]

I've been having trouble doing the bandit hemorrhage challenge
I'm using the artifact of sacrifice and command, on rainstorm difficulty
My gameplan is to collect basic whites and greens to improve my survivability, movements and aoe. I tend to avoid damage increasing items like . Crunder has been my main equipment.
At around stage 3 I start collecting as much as possible, and I'll usually reach stage 4 at around 30 minutes, with about 12~18 magazines.
However, enemies start to become hard to kill atp, due to the lack of single target dps, and I'll usually die to some random elder lem or clay dunestrider before I find bosses that are safe to stack hemorrhage on, such as stone titans or auri.
I'm wondering what I could've done better

[agile crystal]

I say just do it on drizzle for the armor and blitz stages tbh

or you could stack on items without sacrfice and do the hemmorage on stage 3 or 4

[worldly olive]

If you're avoiding proc damage items then Purity could be a better bet than Backup mag

[agile crystal]

i did mines without it , i wasn't patient enough for the artifact to drop me stuff

[worldly olive]

(Or you could get both)

[lavish jacinth]

Alloy worship unit is the best target for it, generally

[glossy panther]

I don't think I have purity unlocked yet

[agile crystal]

wont it be turning around alot tho

[glossy panther]

Is it from the calm?

[lavish jacinth]

you can stand on top of it

[worldly olive]

Yeah, if you haven't unlocked it then its fine but it is a decent help for it

[agile crystal]

ah

[fallen bridge]

i would try to visit gilded coast early in the run & farm backup mags & attack speed from sacrifice, once you have plenty you can unload all of them onto auri (if she dies before 20 stacks, go onto siren's call (stage 4) & try it on awu)

[worldly olive]

Like, I got to stage 5 with 3 or 2 purities and just whaled on a grandparent on monsoon to get the achievement

[agile crystal]

Just ignore the enemies except bosses

[lavish jacinth]

AWU is easily tanky enough to survive 20 stacks of hemorrhage, enough that it doesn't really matter if you have damage items

Aurelionite works too (that's how I did it) but I think AWU is a little better

[glossy panther]

I was struggling to get to mythrix on monsoon difficulty, that's why I wanted to unlock the full kit for some of the characters I play first, in order to beat monsoon easier

[lavish jacinth]

You also don't really need purity, it helps but you already have an ability that instantly resets all of your cooldowns so it's more of a convenience

[glossy panther]

Is awu still this tanky in drizzle?

[lavish jacinth]

uhhh probably?

[glossy panther]

kay I'll try it

[lavish jacinth]

the shield lets it eat a ton of damage but I don't know how much health it would have on stage 4 drizzle

[mellow crystal]

We can probably get an immediate estimate based on the difference in difficulty scaling speed for drizzle and monsoon

[steep basin]

Have they said if more skins will be available for unlock when alloyed collective releases?

[mellow crystal]

They already showed off two different skins in teasers iirc

[fallen bridge]

ya, they have been teasing a few

[steep basin]

Oh epic

[steep basin]

Also it depends i think, as mithrix, Aurelionite and awu are the only things that can level up past 99 effectively from what I heard

[fallen bridge]

also false son & twisted scavs

[mellow crystal]

Yeah they have special scaling

[steep basin]

Oh yes yes I forgot them

[mellow crystal]

I'm pretty sure final boss special scaling just directly uses the timer instead of ambient enemy level in the formula

[fallen bridge]

oh & voidling but no one cares about voidling

[steep basin]

I think awu usually isn't that bad on drizzle tho, hes just annoying as hell when he uses his mega shield for his "send you to the stratosphere" move

Just has tons more health than a normal unit most of the time

[fallen bridge]

they use level scaling in addition to a bonus factor applied to hp & dmg

[mellow crystal]

Also fun fact apparently according to iirc wolfo enemies from halc shrines use fucking GOLD COST for their special scaling

[steep basin]

I got several scu as the stage boss and accidentally activated worship, and his health bar took over theirs once I beat them and I didn't know it did that

[fallen bridge]

(if you look in the in-game console you will see something that says "scripted encounter" w/ these coefficients)

[proven prairie]

what items do i look out for as chef?

[mellow crystal]

Proc items are really really really good since hold-return or boosted cleavers are bugged to have a 2.25 proc coeff
Ignition tank is good with sear
Aside from that mostly damage, chef has great mobility already

Also burst items if you're running ice box + yes chef

[proven prairie]

alr thx

[wraith socket]

when im trying to join a friend's lobby this thing appears then im getting a main screen, what do i do

[proven prairie]

do you have mods enabled? when i try joining a friends lobby with mods when they dont that also happens

[wraith socket]

no, we dont have any mods

[proven prairie]

i dont know then sorry

[wraith socket]

alr

[lavish jacinth]

make sure you all have crossplay disabled (assuming you're all on steam) and that nobody is using a VPN

[wraith socket]

where do i disable it

found it nvm

[wraith socket]

thanks and we just enabled crossplay and it got fixed

[lavish jacinth]

that works for some people but ideally you want it turned off, it's incredibly glitchy

Not sure what to do if you can't get multiplayer working without it though

[proven prairie]

any tips for CHEF? i find him fun but i dont find myself winning with him
im running ice box, oil spilland yes chef

[mellow crystal]

Ice box oil spill is significantly less effective than ice box roll or sear oil spill

[unique folio]

if one person has the expansions is the host can another person without the expansions get the characters?

[mellow crystal]

No

[proven prairie]

which one should i use then? sear and oil spill or ice box and roll?

or are they both equal?

[slim spoke]

oil spill is not for the faint of heart
just saying

[mellow crystal]

Preference
Sear + oil spill is significantly more damage focused while ice box + roll has more off-combat mobility and has freeze

Also verticality vs horizontality

[proven prairie]

alr

[slim spoke]

roll is plain better regarding movement bcuz you can trimp so easily with it
like nearly everytime i roll im sure to launch up somewhere along the way

[quasi topaz]

Until eclipse

[split pier]

Hey guys im playing risk of rain 2 for the first time (recently) and im stuck on last boss, specifically the ||fourth phase where he steals the items, i cant kill him or damage him and he just keeps walking, its been a few min, what do i do?||

I can send the video if this doesnt make sense, cuz it does not to me either

[mellow crystal]

Just keep attacking him, he'll give you your items back as you damage him
Unless he's getting saved by a shitton of ?

Oh wait no safer is blacklisted from mith

[quasi topaz]

Attack him after he attacks and keep walking in a circle. He has a second hidden health bar that doesn't regen so you'll get your items back as long as you keep damaging him

[split pier]

Woah

[split pier]

I had 3 of those corrupted bears

I also had 14 drones to help me

I think they are able to damage him? Not much though

[quasi topaz]

or can trivialize the last phase as long as your patient

[split pier]

Ahh

I didnt get those, i guess i just keep chipping away?

Its been a few min already of me trying to kill him

[quasi topaz]

Thats just what happens in phase 4

[split pier]

Thats so weird

[quasi topaz]

Unless you get your big items back fast or do the phase 4 skip you just have to chip away at him

[split pier]

I thought i fucked up by making my player too OP

[quasi topaz]

That can happen

[split pier]

Damn

Hes also increasing his health

It went from 25k to 26k

[quasi topaz]

Phase 4 is meant to punish you if you dont know how to deal with it

[quasi topaz]

Thats just from natural level ups if you're talking about his max hp

[split pier]

Ohhh

Hes leveling up too, that makes sense

Oh hes also shittalking me on the left

I guess thats also progress

Some kind of red helix also appears on him from time to time

[quasi topaz]

Thats just enemy level ups

[split pier]

Right

Is there a possibility that this phase never ends?

Because it seems that way to me rn

[quasi topaz]

Again, he has a hidden health bar that does not regen so you will get your items back eventually and be able to kill him

Eventually he starts chunking his own hp

[split pier]

Okay! I think I'll leave the boss running with my 14 bots

It looks like this rn
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Am1lch6xL8jVbelEK3oLLgTXzjGlBTPI/view?usp=drivesdk

Hes not even interested in hitting me

[pulsar halo]

Did they patch the mercenary dash collision tech with flying enemies? I seem to be struggling to recreate it

[split pier]

Is this... Fine? Its been more than 10 min

[bright marsh]

can i somehow scrap blue items?

[quasi topaz]

They updated the games physics at one point so it might have been patched

[pulsar halo]

no

[bright marsh]

NOO

my god runn is ruined

[mellow crystal]

Booping is dead yea

[quasi topaz]

Find cleansing pools. They look like tires with water in them

[pulsar halo]

oh ur right yeah my b

[bright marsh]

where can i find it

[quasi topaz]

Kinda anywhere

[bright marsh]

some screen shot of itmaybe

[bright marsh]

thx a lot

[split pier]

???

[junior abyss]

ur drones was so bad at aiming so it took a while

[split pier]

😭 😭

His health is at 40k nowz its been more than half an hour....

How big is this hidden health bar

I have a feeling that im softlocked...

[quasi topaz]

Are you seeing damage numbers pop up when you attack him

[split pier]

No...

Not much

[quasi topaz]

What types of defensive items did you have prior to the fight

[split pier]

His hp goes down though then he heals and then he levels up

[quasi topaz]

He bleeds therefore he can die

[split pier]

I had the ones that split your damage, a few corrupted teddies, 2 more shields I think

Healing when stationary too

I was wrong

No numbers pop up

Its him hurting my drones

Those are the numbers that are popping up

So i cant even get killed by him.. because of how much hes focusing on the drones

This might be the worst boss phase of all time because i cant kill him, he cant kill me, but i still wanna die because i want to keep my progress (some stuff i unlocked)
How can i do this?

If i quit to main menu, does it keep my unlocks?

Welp, just quit it

[steady stone]

he attacks in bursts, so the best thing to do is wait it out behind a pillar and use that to your advantage
every time he slams his fist into the ground he also hurts himself
generally once you get a few items back you can start going aggressive, if it's enough damage items, don't wait to have every single one before engaging

also since he's going after your drones, he won't be attacking you at the same time, giving a good opening

this is also why beetle guard is a decent item against the bosses, and especially against false son

[quasi topaz]

His big problem is that damage isn't physically being done to mithrix

[steady stone]

Both bears should be blacklisted so you should be able to chip his item return meter while distracted

Whether he has infinite healing or not

[next snow]

If I go to eclipse, and kill false son, and then I go rebirth does it count

[steady stone]

there is no option to end the run there on eclipse, you just continue the run

[split pier]

This

[hollow beacon]

I don't have ror2 yet but I am super interested in getting it

Issue is though I only have switch 2 to get it on

And I have heard switch version is slightly worse

Should I get it?

[quasi topaz]

Console builds are very unstable rn so I personally wouldn't recommend getting it on any type of console. There are console players that have no bugs and console players that have all the bugs so buy at your own risk

[hollow beacon]

Alright

I'm probably just gonna save up for a different game then

Thanks for the advice

[glossy panther]

Trying to get the calm
Are there any survivors that are exceptionally good at loopless monsoon runs or eclipse that I should try, or do I just use whatever I find comfortable with

[fallen bridge]

really whoever you are most comfortable playing, but being as insanely op as she is, it is a near-guaranteed win

[glossy panther]

I don't have sots yet unfortunately

[fallen bridge]

is probably the "strongest" basegame survivor then but just play whoever you are best at & you will get there eventually

[quasi topaz]

Im biased but huntress was my first e8 clear. She has good movement and a decently comfy playstyle, just really annoying ability unlocks to get her going

[glossy panther]

I already have all of huntress' alt abilities

[fierce bluff]

Aren't her unlocks super easy w/ artifact of command?

[quasi topaz]

Ballista can be really annoying and 13 crowbars is tedious at best

[fierce bluff]

What's the ballista one

[steady stone]

the easiest thing with damageless rpd is to just loop tbh
stacking a bunch of brooches isn't enough to make it "free" that early

since you're sacrificing the damage items you need to actually use the brooches

[quasi topaz]

Survive rallypoint delta or scorched acres without falling below 100% hp

[fierce bluff]

Ohh, that one's super easy in MP, I get how it can tedious in solo though.

[frosty reef]

Can get it done easily in a prismatic trial as well

[celest isle]

What is the point of doing the POC? I know this might be a dumb question but I honestly don't see any incentive to do it, other than the challenge

[brittle shuttle]

Pretty sure stage 2 has a bit more credits to spawn chests n whatnot and treeborn colony is the best stage 3 for cleansing pools

And prime meridian gives hella good loot while not upping the stage counter

And you can use the bazaar to guarantee a poc stage whenever you want

“Hey i have some lunars i wanna try to fish for a cleansing pool” so you go to treeborn

Or if youre feeling confident for false son have at thee

[celest isle]

ok taht makes a lot of sense

thank you

[brittle shuttle]

I dont go for the full 3 stages very often but i do fight false son whenever i can cus that loot is hella good

And sometimes i feel like getting the extra stuff from reformed altar

Or want a cleansing pool from treeborn

options options

[waxen gale]

i'm genuinely curious- i remember hearing talks of crossplay but i never actually heard anything more of it after the whole dlc 2 fiasco. now that the dlc's been fixed, is there any news on crossplays progress?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, devs have never said anything about cross-platform. The only crossplay that exists is between steam and epic games on PC, and that barely works

there's a non-zero chance of it happening but don't hold your breath for it

[waxen gale]

i thought i remembered that being the main goal of uniting the codebases aside from being able to push out updates simultaneously. oh well, thanks anyway!

guess i misremembered

[lavish jacinth]

afaik the main goal was always just fixing bugs and making future updates easier, because the console ports were an absolute mess before the rebuild

I think crossplay has always been a "if it's possible then we'll do it, but it's not a priority" kind of thing

[fierce bluff]

Anyone knows a way to fix this? My camera's stuck like this no matter what I do, happened only when I entered commencement w/ my teammate, is there maybe a way to have a non nodded run saved to proper save or something, or are we just soft locked?

Opening the logbook did not help

[timid matrix]

If you can communicate with your teammate and their screen isn't the same maybe you can do it blind lmao

[crisp timber]

are you session host?

[fierce bluff]

Tried just that and failed, I died and he beat mithrix solo

[fierce bluff]

Yeah, I was

[viral sorrel]

does anyone know if the disturbed impact/golden dieback logbooks are still unobtainable

also do you go up an eclipse level by winning through void boss

[lavish jacinth]

iirc dieback isn't obtainable, but disturbed impact is

[lavish jacinth]

and you do, but in eclipse you can only get to voidling by using the glass frog, so you'd have to kill mithrix either way

[viral sorrel]

alright thanks

[harsh spire]

Does anyone have good ways to finish the pushing 20 hermit crabs off of a stage achievement? (down to my last 5 achievements before 100%)

[high forum]

[harsh spire]

Lowkey forgot Abt that equipment ty man gesture of the drowned gonna be fun to play with

[lavish jacinth]

railgunner mines or rex util (the non-damaging one) also help. But technically you don't need anything since crabs will naturally run away from you

swarms will also make it go faster but you do have to be more careful about accidentally killing them

[harsh spire]

Ty 🙏🙏🙏

[steep basin]

Hey so I dont know what im doing but this has happened twice now. I play on switch pro controller, in case that helps because I can't figure out what button im pressing. Whatever it is, it loads me into an empty scene with dark and red lights (I assume its somewhere in the bay for the contact light) and it doesnt show anything else. I back out, start a run, then I cannot pause, with either the button on my controller or the esc key. Does anyone else have this issue? What am I pressing to cause this?

[steady stone]

to check, on pc with a switch controller? not on switch?

well if you are on PC, try toggling crossplay

if it's on, turn it off, if it's off, turn it on

[steep basin]

Yes im on pc with the switch controller

[lavish jacinth]

for the sake of ruling it out, does the same thing happen when the controller isn't plugged in? that's probably not it but there have been a lot of controller-related bugs on pc lately

[steep basin]

The problem is that I dont know what im even pressing to cause that scene to pop up so I simply cannot rule out if its a big or not

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it's obviously a bug, there isn't supposed to be a dedicated button to send you to the backrooms and disable the pause button lol

[lavish jacinth]

but if it's somehow caused by hitting a specific button then it should be easy to figure out, shouldn't it? Just hit every button on the controller until it happens
(I assume you mean a controller button and not like a button in the menu or something)

[dry moss]

i have a massive question how rare is a Halcyon Shrine on Reformed Altar iv been resetting runs going in and finding no Halcyon Shrine for 2 days in a row iv tried over 100 times

[lavish jacinth]

pretty rare, but if you're trying to get to gilded coast it's way better to just go to the bazaar after each stage

[fallen bridge]

halcyon shrines are quite rare past stage 1 & are slightly more common on stages 4 & 5

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[dry moss]

thats kinda annoying

[lavish jacinth]

there's a pretty good chance of gilded coast appearing in one of the lunar seers (like 28% I think?), much higher than the chance of a halcyon shrine or gold altar spawning

[fallen bridge]

yah, very slightly less than 28%

[dry moss]

im just trying to get false son its starting to make me wanna stop because its been two days with no gold portal and then now i gotta spam lunar portal till i get it and prolly die to the false son boss

[fallen bridge]

you will probably get to him in like 2 or 3 runs by going to bazaar

[lavish jacinth]

doing it through the bazaar isn't that bad, but you should definitely be familiar with the boss fight before attempting it, since you'll have to fight a slightly harder version if you have halcyon seed

[fallen bridge]

looping also makes him quite a bit easier so you could pick up a seed early in the run & loop for a bit, then fight him

[lavish jacinth]

and command + drizzle is always an option

[dry moss]

well it looks like joining and talking here somehow gave me luck because this run shrine is here

[lavish jacinth]

checks out, the fastest way to solve a problem like this is usually to complain about it on the internet

[vale coral]

ok so i was told to go here if i wanna become gigachad risk of rain player

[dry moss]

i guess so i normally speed run so im stage 3 in 5 minutes

[fallen bridge]

what exactly does "gigachad" mean in this context

[vale coral]

eclipse 8 = ez

[fallen bridge]

a. always full loot, as long as you are picking up items or doing item macro, time does not matter
b. there are a few little tricks you can do to slightly improve your runs - saving big chests/legendary chests for last in case you get a sale star, leaving multishops unopened in case you get an exec card, etc
c. item priority in eclipse generally goes damage >= movement speed > damage reduction > healing (damage & speed are somewhat equal, but generally prioritize damage)
d. spend time scrapping & printing, & visit bazaar often for a chance at getting good cauldrons
e. focus on dodging & learn enemy priority, so to make dangerous targets less dangerous

big focus on dodging since quite a few eclipse modifiers make it easier to get hit & punish you more for being hit

[vale coral]

thank u so much, vv helpful

[vale aspen]

Or you could play with no strategy and wing it

My preference ngl

[fallen bridge]

it also helps a lot to use bazaar seer & to know stages' enemy & boss pools ... for example sundered grove is harder w/ little movement speed because larvae are little heat-seeking missiles in eclipse

[vale aspen]

All level 4 stages are a death sentence

[kindred herald]

Important item macro:

• Leaving bad reds and yellows on the ground until you are certain there’s not a recycler on the stage (Don’t forget to pick them up)
• Leaving multishops open until you’re sure there’s not a on the stage
• Leaving shrines of chance up until you’re certain there’s not a chance doll on the stage (this one can be loose because you don’t wanna run out of money for a shrine post TP)
• Leaving naturally spawning Magma Wurms and Imp Overlords alive until you’re certain there’s not a on the stage
• Leaving a Large Chest, rusted key box, or Legendary Chest unopened till you’ve found a sale star / made sure there’s not one.
• Some items are only good on the first stack. It can be a good idea to leave extra copies on the ground, scrap your current instance of the item, and THEN pick up the new one. Say, if you JUST want the 5% crit from harvesters scythe— scrap current scythe, pick up the new one.
• When there’s a good printer on the stage (esp stage 1)
  , leaving items you want to NOT print on the ground so you can go all in and then pick up ur speed, opals, w/e
• When opening ur , make sure you have a second copy in your inventory so that you can continue to open another encrusted each stage. If yu can’t find one on the stage, it’s a good idea to just not open the box and wait till you find a new key— the void box will appear each stage so youre not losing anything.

[vale aspen]

This is good advice, play this if you like strat

I don't play like that but it's good

[kindred herald]

this is a lot to take it in but it’s significantly simpler to execute in runs then it looks— even just the sale star thing drastically increases the amount of legendaries you’re hitting on average

[vale aspen]

Sale star and credit card make the run easy peasy

[lavish jacinth]

small thing to add to this, when you scrap items, try to get white and green scrap in increments of 3 and 5 respectively, so that you can afford to use lunar cauldrons (especially with green scrap, as good green printers aren't super common).
Getting more scrap than you need doesn't do you any good, as even a weak item is more useful than having leftover scrap at the end of a run that does literally nothing

[kindred herald]

oh this is true

[dry moss]

ok so the false son boss does 800 damage one shotting me on drizzle and in medium section?

thats bs

[kindred herald]

this is especially important when you’re about to go to the moon— scrap not in increments of 3/5 is uselsss in that situation. it can only be spent on the moon like that.

also get in the habit of figuring out how much of your build dna realistically be cut and trimmed. if you have three will o the wisp you maybe don’t need a gas. if you’re leaving stage 5 to go to the Moon, you can cut a lot from your build— most aoe, for one, a LOT of reds are useless on mithrix

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[fallen bridge]

false son has some of the hardest-hitting attacks in the game, & he has an attack in phase 1 that can 1-shot you at close distances (spike shotgun)

[vale aspen]

You guys make sense

[fallen bridge]

always best to keep quite a bit of distance from him & to have pillars for cover if needed

[lavish jacinth]

make sure you're cleansing lunar ruin by hitting the gold geodes, too

each stack makes you take 10% more damage and heal 10% less

[dry moss]

kinda hard playing merc

[lavish jacinth]

in merc's case you can abuse your iframes

[fallen bridge]

merc has a lot of iframes but you do have to be extremely careful & watch his attack windups to know when to iframe

[dry moss]

i dont use that iframe mode

move*

[lavish jacinth]

he has iframes on his dashes too

[kindred herald]

E8 also changes item dynamics some. You really want a armor plate or rose buckler going into moon if you don’t have a pillar skip, because blood pillars can deal permanent damage to you without sufficient reduction. Power elixirs become a safe scrap, and watches become a bit safer. Infusion is a bit of a better item (although not by much) because it makes it harder to get permanent damage

[lavish jacinth]

but in general, you don't wanna be as aggressive with false son as you would be with mithrix

play defensively and hit him when you have a good opportunity

[kindred herald]

Also if you have the chance never go to sirens call because the fact that Sale Star exists means that the other two stages are always better lmao

[fallen bridge]

armor plate in general helps a ton w/ eclipse since it essentially nullifies wisps, which can be a big source of curse early in a run

rose buckler is also +30% effective hp which is pretty strong on survivors that sprint a lot

[vale aspen]

Wisps are terrible, but if you see a blindpest you might as well quit right then and there

[dry moss]

whats a good character to fight false son with i have everything but false son

[kindred herald]

rose buckler is HEAVILY slept on that item saves lives

[lavish jacinth]

fr, one of the most underrated items in the game

[dry moss]

seeker + rose buckler is peak

[kindred herald]

Eclipse also forces the player to understand you need to not be taking damage rather then HEALING the damage you take— above all else the most powerful defensive items in eclipse are and . I would take 1 safer spaces over a good chunk of reds in 90% of runs.

[fallen bridge]

generally whoever you are most comfortable playing but survivors w/ high mobility ( ) &/or powerful control effects ( ) tend to do quite well

[dry moss]

can rex vine grab pull false son in

[fallen bridge]

chronobauble & runald's/singularity band help a lot in case you lack enemy control

[fallen bridge]

ya, it also nullifies his phase 1 dash since it just sets the target's speed to 0

[dry moss]

sweet

[lavish jacinth]

Seeker would be a pretty good choice with how absurdly overpowered she is, I also had a really easy time doing it as Acrid but that might've been a fluke

[fallen bridge]

weaken reducing false son's damage, armor, & speed is quite potent

[dry moss]

what if i use chef oil up false son and cook him with like 10 of the quad fire damage buffs

[lavish jacinth]

make sure you've got some decent move speed if you aren't playing a character that naturally has a lot of mobility (or even if you are)

[fallen bridge]

he would die quite fast, but unless you are running ice will probably be more consistent

[lavish jacinth]

are also surprisingly good because his AI almost always prioritizes minions for some reason, even can be solid since you'll be interacting with the pillars pretty frequently

[fallen bridge]

false son is stupid & dumb & would rather spend 5 minutes swatting at allies than the player actively attacking him

[lavish jacinth]

drones work too but they die really easily to lightning and you likely won't have a ton of money to repair them

[fallen bridge]

all non-respawning allies die very fast because of the ruin accumulation, which makes beetle guard by far the best

[lavish jacinth]

squid polyp can actually completely destroy his brain in some cases, he'll occasionally get stuck on a pillar for 30 seconds trying to reach it

[fallen bridge]

i have seen that happen

[dry moss]

captain drone squid build peak?

[vale aspen]

Drone parts don't work on squid

[dry moss]

ik

[lavish jacinth]

regular drones would die pretty fast but spamming squids with and a hacking beacon would work extremely well

[vale aspen]

Mb

[vale coral]

is it better to beat the game on normal mode or keep losing on monsoon until i get good?

[dry moss]

i just kinda wanna cheese the boss at this point since i spent 2 days just to get one shot by false son

[fallen bridge]

once you are consistent at rainstorm i would move up

[vale coral]

its weird because on some characters i can beat monsoon sometimes but with others its pretty hard

[fallen bridge]

throwing your head at a wall does not feel great, but taking it slow & learning the game before taking on monsoon is better

[lavish jacinth]

that's pretty normal, some characters are harder than others

[fallen bridge]

some survivors (looking at specifically) tend to struggle much less overall & have a lower skillcap so that will happen

[vale aspen]

Just don't get used to command drizzle

[lavish jacinth]

^ command and drizzle are good for learning the basics, but if you wanna actively get better at the game, it's best to practice on rainstorm/monsoon with no artifacts