ror2-game-questions

[high parcel]

that being said, probably a lot of merc tech guides on youtube without much searching

[clear whale]

Mercenary is a pretty good crowd control class and thats it

"A Loader's single Utility press deals more damage than 20s of Mercenary combos"

You can move around during M1 since its Agile

[long oriole]

Oh no I've seen them all but that's the thing. The techs is not really my problem here. I just feel like I expose tech, slice wind again and again and take gigantic risk when trying anything new.

[high parcel]

pick the other special

[clear whale]

M2 is used for quick crowd control damage or movement

[high parcel]

the one that gives iframes

[long oriole]

Nah I tried it, I know it gives Iframe but it feels so bad

[clear whale]

Slicing Winds is essentially the hard mode of Mercenary

[long oriole]

Oh

[high parcel]

well, thats about as much survival you get then

if youre not picking that up, youre on your own

[high parcel]

unlike stuff like melee seeker, he doesnt get a billion self heal, instant shields and self revives

so getting in range without the iframes will always be riskier than other survivors

[long oriole]

Yeah sûre i'm not against that it's a skill issue. But I feel like I Can do more with this character, I just have trouble figuring out how I Can do you play better with him.

[clear whale]

Mercenary is all about abusing iframes and movement

Dash through crowds and pick off smaller enemies with M1 to decrease cooldown

[glacial knoll]

All alt merc is so painful

Usuaully good to use 1 alt move but all default is great too

[clear whale]

Full default merc is really good

[long oriole]

Yeah I see that. It's a fun character. I prefer his crowd control/damage loadout more with slicing wind and focused assault, i'm really looking to fill the big damage gap he has.

[clear whale]

Alt is much much harder to play since you cant rely much on iframes

[long oriole]

Mhhh, so you are saying that if I Can I should stay near the ennemies and spam M1 and M2 until it's unsafe ?

Tbh I just use M2 so rarely i'm just feeling like I don't take enough risk/do not know how to handle this ability. I'm talking about base M2 btw

[clear whale]

Enemies like Stone Titan can be safety intercepted at melee range

Enemies like Dune Claystrider might be a bit tricker

And for Mithrix or FS just spam utility or special

A quick tip for base special is that you can aim down to avoid moving too far from where you are

[long oriole]

Yeah make sense.

Okay

[clear whale]

The skill will automatically find the closest target to you and attack it

Also your base Special acts like a second dash

[long oriole]

So overall, you rarely (in later stages) find the time to use M2 for damage, it's more when there's a lot of tiny ennemies ?

[clear whale]

M2 is also good for map traversal

[high parcel]

you constantly should use m2 for trimping

very easy to do, just sprint m2 on any slope and will do the thing for you

[glacial knoll]

There's runs where I feel like I do no damage with no Slicing Winds and there's runs where I feel like im going to lose instantly without Evis

If you're doing final bosses the invulnerability is definitely just better

Maybe I need to build my merc runs more but like printers are still rng

[clear whale]

M2 also allow you to be midair for a bit longer

Thats good I think

[long oriole]

Oh for sure but i'm fine, you get used to mitrix patterns After a while he isn't m'y biggest concern.

I like that you can easly pillar skip with trimping and enough speed tho

Real nice

[high parcel]

best use of m2 is early map scouting imo

like artificers ion

spawn on the stage, trimp off, and check where all the shrines are

then you can efficiently play the stage

[high parcel]

also to break falls in eclipse...3?

[clear whale]

He has a double jump

But sure you can use it if you already wasted your double jump

[vast solar]

Ok so i went to the hidden bazaar and went to the gilded coast to get the halcyon seed but when i killed the boss it didnt drop?

Any reason why?

Nvm…

[fair shadow]

I need some help with Bandit

I don't know why Bandit is such a hard character for me to play TwT

I'm on E4

And Commando and Huntress were within 5 tries

Bandit? Nope. Try months. Everytime I play him.

I'm getting the backshots

I'm using all his abilities well I believe

So what is it about him that is so much harder than Commando to play???

[bitter ether]

u used the tp, and now my camera is locked on a scrapper. how do i fix this?

eh ima just close the game, this is kinda sad, i had mead hook + growth nectar on stage 1

[vast solar]

Is the resonance disc gpod?

[fair shadow]

Yes

If you can kill things quick enough

It's better on loop

But is really good for TP events you're struggling with

Stage 4 dealing with 5 Imp Overlords with one overloading due to mountain shrine? It can save you. Fighting Mithrix? A bit less useful. If you want to risk it you could scrap it before you enter in hopes of a crowbar or other good white pool on the moon

If not it'll only really help for phase 2 and 3

And only if you have the AoE to kill the enemies that spawn

I don't know its interaction with Forgive Me Please but it may be very cool

[vast solar]

Ohhh thanks for the explanation im planning to loop so i can try to get harolyc seed

And im using engi too

[fair shadow]

Oh

You'll mess everything up with it

Nothing can touch u

Engi turrets already proc items like crazy

Just a uke and atg and your turrets should already have crazy AoE and will be sending exploding disks out all the time

[unkempt quartz]

whys my game just suddenly say you hear a distant whirring at stage 4 😭

[vast solar]

Oh

U broke the eggs

[high forum]

Special stage event. You did something to trigger it

[vast solar]

Yep

Also is loader good?

[kindred herald]

Loader is very good

One of the best

[vast solar]

oooo

[lavish jacinth]

What part of him do you usually struggle with?
The usual gameplay loop with bandit is to cloak, get behind a big target, unload your primary into their back, finish them off with your revolver, and if they survive, knife them and run away. Farm smaller enemies for desperado kills (if you're not using desperado I'd recommend doing that)

Bandit is kinda funny because most people like him and consider him a lot stronger than commando in general, but the few people who don't like him REALLY don't like him and have a horrible time with him lol

[lavish jacinth]

Lol wtf, scrapper just wanted attention ig

That might be worth a #1172187541349347429 unless you were running any mods, then that could be the issue

[bitter ether]

yea it was mods, i dont normally use them, but my friend uses those, and he sent me his mod profile id
and he has a mod that lets him see the missed items after he teleports (idk why would he want that)
and im supposed to press S to cycle through every missed item

but like why would i want to see chests after i tp away 🗿

[lavish jacinth]

I guess to give you an idea of how much loot you missed so you know to look harder for it next time, maybe?

[bitter ether]

hmmm maybe

[fair shadow]

Knowing where chests tend to spawn is a skill in RoR2

They aren't completely consistent but sometimes loot spawns in places you didn't know existed

Verdant Falls has a lot of those

And Helminth Hatchery has such odd chest spawns I still don't know where they are

[copper sable]

i hate looking for the chests in that one stage one from sots and helminth hatchery

do any of yall know why ive gotten helminth 5 times in a row but no sky meadow

i dont like helminth and i want sky meadow back

[fair shadow]

You might have said my problem. I don't have Desperado since I lost my old account and I decided to try to 100% the game completely contained within Eclipse and getting that final Light's Out is hard, I've failed 3 times

But that's me being a dingus :p

[fair shadow]

I tend to dream for Sky Meadow as well

[copper sable]

helminth is too tall

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, LO isn't unusable but desperado scales so much better

can make a sort of bootleg replacement for desperado tho, it works especially well with the shotgun

[fair shadow]

That's fair

I am banning the Lunar shop however

[lavish jacinth]

Fair enough

[fair shadow]

So I will need to find it in a pod

Or Recycler pull

[lavish jacinth]

Another thing that does help a lot with bandit is drones, they're useful in general but they make cloaking way stronger

Enemies can still sorta see you when you're cloaked, but they'll always prefer to change targets if there's something else for them to attack

[fair shadow]

I know Beetles can see you cloaked

But I didn't know that anyone else could

[lavish jacinth]

Enemies get updates on your position once every second while cloaked

[fair shadow]

I see

And is that from cloak start? Or global

[lavish jacinth]

From cloak start I believe

[fair shadow]

I see

That's useful

Oh yeah

So as I said, I am trying to do every achievement within Eclipse

And I was curious if you had any tips for stacking 20 Hemorage

[lavish jacinth]

Alloy worship unit is always an easy way to do it

Getting 20 stacks is pretty easy, because hemorrhage lasts 15s and resets with new stacks like bleed. You just need a target tanky enough to survive the damage, hence AWU

Backup mags help too ofc

Aurelionite also works, I don't think it's as tanky as awu but that's how I did it

[fair shadow]

It'll be a bit harder to do in Eclipse now

Since I have enemies schmoving quickly

Getting behind AWU within 15 seconds with it 40% faster sounds hard

[lavish jacinth]

you can stand on top of AWU to make it a bit easier

[fair shadow]

True

While I'm at it

Another character which never fails to give me trouble is Captain

What's his deal?

[lavish jacinth]

Cap is a little more tricky with e4 since he has no good movement (technically he can rocket jump with diablo strike but it's not exactly practical lol).

Locking down dangerous enemies with taser and using drones are essential, microbots can make projectile enemies pretty much trivial so focus on hitscanners

[fair shadow]

I find I die a lot to under estimating spam my way and a couple projectiles getting through my microbots

Like a lot of Lumerians firing at me and the singular Brass Contraption ball is missed and then I'm obliterated

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, that's where drones make a difference, more microbots to eat projectiles.
And of you still want to always be moving and circlestrafing, most projectiles won't hit you anyway if you just move

Don't forget that microbots scale with attack speed too

[fair shadow]

Do drones inherent microbots?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, that's part of his passive

[fair shadow]

That's really cool!

I didn't know that

[timid obsidian]

can i fight false son twice in one run?

[lavish jacinth]

Iirc No

[echo vector]

Linked question, does defeating false son end the run ?

[lavish jacinth]

No, you can continue by interacting with the rebirth altar but canceling instead of offering an item, it'll spawn a portal back to normal stages

[echo vector]

Nice

[onyx plume]

I am starting to learn bandit (desperado) and wondering how the alt m2 is useful (shiv)?

not enough dmg to proc bands

[trim lynx]

they are both pretty even i think

depends if you get use out of the range

[lavish jacinth]

It's basically just a slightly weaker but more convenient version of the default m2

You can proc hemorrhage on an enemy without needing to be 3 feet away from them

And it's not like default m2 can proc bands either, nor would you want it to since you want desperado to be your band proc

[onyx plume]

isn't hemorrhage kinda weak to rely on it tho

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[onyx plume]

i found that hemorrhage mechanic to be underwhelming

[lavish jacinth]

I mean it's okay

Bandits m2 just isn't very good lol

Regardless of which one you use

[onyx plume]

i see

[lavish jacinth]

It can be nice for tanky bosses though, stick hemorrhage on them to wear them down while you deal with other stuff

[onyx plume]

what are some items i should avoid

as desperado bandit

[lavish jacinth]

There's nothing that's really bad on him, although lensmakers is pretty weak since you have an easy way to get crits already

I mean apart from items that are nearly always trash anyway like bison steak or leeching seed

But he's pretty flexible

[onyx plume]

what do you think about

void glasses?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, they're decent on him

[onyx plume]

i heard void glasses proc can't stack desperado

is this false info

[lavish jacinth]

Uhh I wouldn't think so, I've never heard that but I'd have to test it

[mellow crystal]

i can test it rn, gimme a moment

[onyx plume]

also how exactly does voidling scaling work?

[mellow crystal]

they can

[onyx plume]

ty! another wrong info from reddit xD

[onyx plume]

the wiki says scaling per lv

but that seems too weak for scaling

like i remember the crab was very thick (400k+ hp min)

via mithrix route

[lavish jacinth]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Difficulty#Unique_scaling

all of the final bosses have this

plus adaptive armor that scales loosely with your dps, although that doesn't change their actual health

[onyx plume]

ah okok

[vast solar]

Yo is there any guranteed way to try and get a halycon seed or to atlwast get to the gilded coast? Ive always been trying but ive been unlucky (i know guaranteed seems stupid but to atleast up my chances)

[lavish jacinth]

Nope, gilded coast is always rng. Best you can do is turn on command+sac for more shrines and keep checking the lunar seers in the bazaar

Multiplayer also helps, more players means more spawns

[vast solar]

Not when u dont have ps plus lmao

[kindred herald]

Yeah it’s main use is double jining

Jumping

[timber wolf]

Hey guys, how do i get bandit’s second m2?

[timber wolf]

How can you get so many items?

[brittle shuttle]

Debug toolkit

[vast solar]

Also what are the best artifacts to have?

[onyx plume]

ive been trying to unlock desperado (final shot with lights out on final boss) and i was able to oneshot both voidlings (command of swarM)

but nothing unlocked

even though i explicitly avoided any on hit proc items

or any of the listed items on wiki

i literally took nothing but raw dmg

damn this is frustrating...

[mellow crystal]

it has to be specifically on mithrix

phase 4 mithrix

[onyx plume]

but the wiki says voidling is allowed

Bandit: B&E is a challenge in Risk of Rain 2. It is completed as Bandit by killing Mithrix or Voidling with Lights Out. Keep in mind, killing Mithrix in Simulacrum won't count towards challenge completion.

[mellow crystal]

check wiki.gg not fandom

[onyx plume]

ah

damn thats crazy

[vast solar]

Wait is using the artifact command a idk way of like kinda cheatibg the game? Cause it kinda feels like it lmao

[lavish jacinth]

Pretty much

Artifacts aren't meant to be balanced, they're just for fun

[vast solar]

Ohhhh ok ok

[sweet mist]

why is there like 10 different environment logs for the artifact place

[lavish jacinth]

Because there are different variants of it

[sweet mist]

do you get them randomly or is there like 1 per artifact

[lavish jacinth]

It's just random iirc, although the 3 variants are part of the dlc2

If you don't have it enabled you'll just see the normal version

[sweet mist]

ok thanks

btw is there any way to get the other normal stage logs faster

[lavish jacinth]

turning on command and sacrifice will slightly increase the odds of them spawning, and having more players in multiplayer helps, but that's it

[sweet mist]

ok thanks

[onyx plume]

hows bandit's desperado dmg calculated? 600% and 10% for every kill

is this multiplicative? or additive? or...

[lavish jacinth]

it's 10% of desperado's starting damage, so basically +60% base damage per token

[onyx plume]

god DAMN

so when you have 10 tokens u basically do double the starting dmg?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[onyx plume]

thats busted

[lavish jacinth]

desperado is very strong lol

[onyx plume]

i feel like theres not really a reason to use the base special

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, desperado is honestly just better

like, lights out is fun, but it falls off hard once enemies get tanky enough that LO can't easily kill them

[onyx plume]

true

[unkempt ocean]

Yeah and the more you stack the more damage you get to make it easier to stack then plus guaranteed crit for hitting their backs and it obliterates bosses and enemies alike

[lapis abyss]

Can you unlock characters even artifacts are on?

[wide parrot]

yes

artifacts being on doesn't disable anything

[normal marsh]

I really wish that I rolled better options here - which of these do I even pick here? Run is seeming outstanding, want to make sure I choose the right call.

Probably not dagger, but the plant seems like it'd be overkill with the strides healing I already have and my equipment has been going unused as it is

[hexed jewel]

dagger damage plant heal

whichever ur slacking in

[normal marsh]

I am lacking neither rn, run is going swimmingly

I have crazy uptime strides and 10 crowbars on railgunner

I probably don't want dagger just from risking it messing up crowbar on something it can't kill

[hexed jewel]

i would prob take plant then

especially cuz railgunner stays scoped in u would prob get caught off guard

[lavish jacinth]

if you feel like gambling, the big brain play could be to take and then try to get later for an infinite band setup

(probably too late but for future reference lol)

[normal marsh]

Indeed late, amusing idea, but also I've been lazy on getting around to dealing with looping to 6 to herd the crabs lol

[lavish jacinth]

ah well

[normal marsh]

I will say - do I even truly want the band with the crowbars build rn?

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it wouldn't hurt anything

and it gives you another big, reliable multiplier

[normal marsh]

I fear a moment of killing something and the band explosion damage ticks putting something below crowbar range since it does DOT rather than a burst

[lavish jacinth]

eh, kjaro's radius is small enough that it would pretty rarely be an issue

[normal marsh]

Basically all my damage is gated behind the crowbars rn, so DOT that can splash onto something else that isn't all going to have been multiplied by it just scares me

[lavish jacinth]

and that's why you don't invest everything into one multiplier lol
(well one of the reasons anyway)

[normal marsh]

The items I spent on them were very much worth it I will say lol

The biggest loss was, like, a single cautious slug that I felt like I missed for a minute

[lavish jacinth]

fair, but still

bands also give you a strong backup option in case there's anything the crowbars don't kill

[normal marsh]

Really I wish I had ice rather than fire band lol

[lavish jacinth]

I really don't think kjaro's would be that much of an issue, if anything the lingering damage is gonna pair well with cryocharge to finish things off

[normal marsh]

But yeah, I'm sitting by a scrapper in void fields contemplating tossing the ring into the fire lol - I hate being able to see timelines where doing it or not doing it could both be big deals lol

[lavish jacinth]

I would definitely recommend against scrapping it

[normal marsh]

But if I shoot one enemy in a close together cluster and then suddenly have nowhere near enough damage to finish off the other handful of 75% health enemies....

[lavish jacinth]

or alternatively, you run into enemies that are tanky enough to eat a hit from crowbar anyway

especially considering you're running the loadout with less burst damage

and y'know, you can use bands against the same enemy more than once, unlike crowbar

[normal marsh]

Fine, fine...

But if I see a nice green printer on a stage with another scrapper, I make no promises.

Also, good god the RoR gods do not want me to lose this run

[lavish jacinth]

lol

[normal marsh]

I lost the run TT

[lavish jacinth]

you jinxed it

[normal marsh]

The first death was so dumb too

Being scoped in really makes you lose your sense of depth sometimes TT

And then the second...... this was just top grade chaos.

I honestly had it, too, if I hadn't burnt my second charge of my equipment (preon) on the first cluster of two bosses without realizing that the third was on the other side behind me still.

The first 2 Dunestriders were legit one tapped by it

If I'd just processed what the health bar was telling me I'd have been able to use the second charge on the remaining one and be fine probably

But in the moment I just used the second charge on basically nothing going "oh, they must have health left, better use my big damage since they're below crowbar now" - the longish death animation for them probably didn't help lol

[vast solar]

What items should u stack on engi except uh bungus?

[agile crystal]

anything you'd stack on commando

heavy on them procs

but just stack on on hits and on kills and alot of movement, since engi can be very slow, maybe pick up

[vast solar]

Is there any tips to beat false son as engi?

I died to him on last phase kinda mad about it yes

[stray inlet]

More explosives

[vast solar]

…like?

[long oriole]

Heyyy

So I tried the strat. Turning around and running in the opposite direction and then jumping at the last second but there is an issue :

He does not always spawn in the same place. That means he can really just spawn on my right, in front of me etc so, I guess you just try to run at the opposite of where he teleport (seems hard to dodge because it's so fast) and then jump to make the slam easier to dodge ?

[vast solar]

How can i beat false son with loader like any artifacts i should be focusing?

[kindred herald]

loader can beat false son without artifacts

a good loader run wants damage ups- crowbar, kjaro and runalds band, focus crystal, delicate watch, chronic expansion

[high parcel]

put the turret inside the columns

[vast solar]

…no way u can do that

[high parcel]

you can put the turrets inside 99% of the geometry of the game

[marble osprey]

Can do it for Mithrix too, you can put the turrets outside his arena but also inside the ramps and the pillars he spawns after phase 1
Although if you use walking turrets they'll just walk out of the walls so uh don't do that lol

[vast solar]

Ah thanks im about to fight him with loader should i be knowing anything before then?

[kindred herald]

get behind the pillars when he does the laser

he’s invincible immediately after dashing so don’t waste your punch there

[fallen bridge]

the biggest things are to watch out for his spike shotgun & dash/slam in phase 1, make sure you're near pillars when he does his laser, & start phase 3 near an unused geode

[vast solar]

Oop i messed up…i accidentally clicked the teleporter instead of the green portal am i able to loop again and retry to get the harolyc shrine?

I am able to loop again yes?

[tender temple]

Prime meridian is accessible all the time as long as you haven't beaten it previously in the run

You can work around that with some bugs tho

[mellow crystal]

that should work yea
also are you playing on eclipse? because if so then the inconsistent teleport location is because of e4 (or whichever the +enemy speed one is) affecting his dash distance

[mellow crystal]

phase 1 is cheesable with :loaderspin:

just make sure to wait until after he spike shotguns to punch so he doesn't oneshot you with it

[long oriole]

yeah. I am currently on Mercenary, Eclipse 4.
I have a lot of trouble fighting the boss, I do not know why. He is pretty easu usually. It may come because of my lack of experience with merc but it's a bit odd to just stay away and spam slicing wind.

But yes his teleports are just inconsistents, but does it means that unless lucky I really can't dodge it normally without a LOT of speed or a dash ?

[mellow crystal]

yeah e4 false son dashes are kind of just either praying for good rng or having really good reaction time
something that is helpful with merc specifically tho is that if your dashes are on cooldown, then you can use pillars to block line of sight to either delay fs's dashes or make him bump into the pillar with a dash

it does also help with any other survivor with mobility that can deal with dash + slam but whose cooldown is too long to be spammable for it

[long oriole]

ah I see. Say,

What mod do you use to tp to this boss ? It's hard to find some mods because of the bad tags on R2MODMAN

[mellow crystal]

i just use debugtoolkit, pretty useful for testing stuff

the command for skipping to fs is just "set_scene meridian" or "next_stage meridian"

and the console is activated with iirc ctrl + shift + ~

[long oriole]

Okay, thanks.

so the only real way of just dodging the dash without any mov'ability is...pillars, then ?

[mellow crystal]

essentially yeah 😭

that's the main issue with fs right now really

phase 2 and phase 3 are pretty well-designed and phase 1 is a good concept, but is held back by the fact that dash + slam is literally undodgeable without pillar bumping or mobility

[long oriole]

To be frank...

Unless I suck at a character, like really bap (Merc cough) Phase 2 and 3 are kind of a none issue. I mean the laser can get you if your in a bad situation because of the golems or stuff but

yeah it's fair and balanced. But I don't know why I should be scared mostly of the very first phase of a boss who has 3 stages

[long oriole]

Ayo wdym you never played commando

[mellow crystal]

funnily enough i actually did my first commando run yesterday

[long oriole]

I love him. Even thought he's weak he still feels the best for proc runs imo. Run, dodge, shoot. That's it

[fallen bridge]

*even though he feels weak he's the best for proc runs

[long oriole]

Can you dodge the killing blow of the warped echo ?

As merc

[mellow crystal]

that is something i should test with debugtoolkit actually
gimme a moment

[long oriole]

I tried

I died. Idk if I fucked the timing but

[mellow crystal]

surprisingly yes you can

[daring cloak]

Wtf

That doesnt look right

[brittle shuttle]

Wecho my goat

[mellow crystal]

or wait no i just tried without dashing and it seems to be a rounding error with glass

or regen maybe?

[daring cloak]

I dont think you should survive the initial hit to begin with

[trim lynx]

its non lethal

[mellow crystal]

oh yup
more definitive test and it is actually just i-framable, no rounding errors or anything

[daring cloak]

What the fuck

One more reason why wecho is a stupidly op item in the right hands

Literally defying death

[mellow crystal]

surprisingly sojourn does not work

[daring cloak]

Ig she never gains invincibility but her hitbox is removed

[lavish jacinth]

I think she's just ethereal yeah

[woven reef]

What's the best way to unlock ballista?

[lavish jacinth]

shaped glass/artifact of glass can help since their downsides don't really matter, are also great because damage to barrier won't fail the challenge. You can also just loop and do it when you're overpowered enough to get it without even trying since it doesn't have to be stage 3 specifically, just those maps

turning off SotV can also help with the rng a bit since you won't get sulfur pools, but that also means you can't get

and technically the easiest way would be to do it in multiplayer and just afk in a spot where enemies can't reach you while your teammates do the whole stage for you lol

[woven reef]

A great sacrifice to be made

Thanks appreciate it

[lavish jacinth]

np

(and tbf you can semi-guarantee the right stage if you're willing to spend some coins on lunar seers)

[steady stone]

is there a mathematical formula for how much gold it would take to charge a halcyon shrine compared to the cost of a small chest? so i can eyeball how much to save

[ripe wadi]

Do the cleansing pools even exist at this point I’ve only ever seen one and I’ve had the game for years

[livid wedge]

I believe it's always 12 times a small chest?

300 base, scaling with time

[kindred herald]

They appear frequent on verdant falls, aphelian sanctuary and sulfur pools

[ripe wadi]

I know that but I’ve only EVER seen one and it was on sanctuary

It’s like they just don’t exist because they are that rare I had better luck getting the n’kuhana horns and that’s been glitched for even longer

[kindred herald]

They exist

[still mural]

They don't appear if you have Command on

For some reason

[high forum]

printers/printing-like objects don't appear with command on, by design

[still mural]

Odd since there is no other way to get pearls

[high forum]

Well, command isn't the intended way of playing the game, so...

[thorny steeple]

the ror2 wiki says that chance shrines have a 55% success rate, is there any proof of that

ill fail a chance shrine 7 times in a row pretty much every run i ever do but i very rarely succeed them more than 3 times in a row

so i find that extremely dubious

[high forum]

well, you can't 'succeed' the roll more than twice

[thorny steeple]

I mean multiple chance shrines back to back

I thought it was odd how low my success rate appeared to be compared to the advertised 55% so i started loosely keeping track

and in general it seems like my success rate is closer to 25-35% than 55%

it got to the point where i ended up ignoring chance shrines completely unless i either have chance dolls or literally nothing else to spend money on

[kindred herald]

they are 55%

its not bugged- someone would have noticed by no

[thorny steeple]

then why have my chance shrines been so bad for the past like year and a half

i dont get it

[thorny steeple]

like, this isn't an exaggeration

[high forum]

you're an unlucky person

simple as

but if there was something genuinely wrong with the shrines, it would have been documented extensively. but they've never changed the odds in 6 years

[thorny steeple]

being that consistently unlucky for that long would be unfathomably low odds
but alright then i guess

[kindred herald]

you notice the negatives more then positives

[thorny steeple]

only because i started paying attention

[kindred herald]

what do you think is more likely:

• a entire very active playerbase and two dev teams have not ntocied a crucial bug in one of the most common interactables for a very long time and recorded it
• you just have had bad luck for a bit and it sticks in your mind

[thorny steeple]

like i don't doubt what you guys are saying

i just can't comprehend how i could possibly be that unlucky that it genuinely seems like the success rate has been 30% lower than advertised for over a year of playing the game

again, ive been keeping track

maybe i'll have to start actually writing it down so i can keep better track of it i guess

[brittle shuttle]

random numba generator

[thorny steeple]

funny considering my first achievement in the game was the "is this bugged?" one though heh

twas an omen of things to come

[normal marsh]

Quick question - if Mul-T swaps to essense of heresy while fuel cell is in his second slot, can he still unlock Rex that run using that fuel cell?

(getting rid of the item aside)

Like, do you need to have fuel cell in your active slot?

[north moth]

Hey! I just got ifrit’s distinction. I might just be stupid, but I’m not really sure how it works. Also, does the war horn still works with that?

[fallen bridge]

a. it works as applying a 50% total dmg burn to all of your attacks & procs ... burn is kinda weird but its dps is based on your base dmg & its duration is based on the dmg of whatever procced it ... this means that heavier hits (like loader punch) will burn for a long time, but commando m1 will burn for a short time but the same dps
b. since it's not "activated", nop

(this also means stacking gas just makes the burn last longer)

[north moth]

Makes sense

Thanks for the explanation

I will get rid of my horns

[fallen bridge]

pray for an printer

[north moth]

I am praying for that. I only got 2 tanks :(((

[frank sparrow]

i occasionaly get kicked when im playing multiplayer and sometimes i could join back but now i cant anyone know why

[stiff lava]

how do i kick people from my lobby, im trying to play eclipse 2 but keep getting people on e1

i even nameed my server eclipse 2 and people still join with e1 characters

[delicate marten]

Is there a specific way to save my game? I just lost like 3 new survivors that I unlocked in my last run and I’m not sure why

[onyx plume]

is the multiplayer server tripping or something

[lavish jacinth]

ror2 is peer2peer, there is no multiplayer server

[onyx plume]

im joining my friends server

and it hasn't been this laggy every

[lavish jacinth]

nope, unfortunately that's just a bug in the game atm. You can redo unlocks to get them back, or just use the realercheatunlocks mod if you're on pc, but there's nothing else you can do but wait for a patch

(which won't be any time soon according to the devs)

[onyx plume]

is there a way to check if the bad server issues are my end or the host's end?

[lavish jacinth]

could be an issue with your own internet, but sometimes multiplayer is just wack. I'd have no idea how to check for that tho

[mellow crystal]

there's a mod called ProperSave that saves runs

[onyx plume]

its really weird cuz we are on discord

and no issues on that one

[mellow crystal]

also RealerCheatUnlocks can help to undo the progress loss

[delicate marten]

On console right now, any ingame console commands I can use or no?

[lavish jacinth]

you can add to this thread if you want #1381780270969262080 message I'm pretty sure the devs are aware of the bug, but the more attention it gets, the better

[lavish jacinth]

nope

I don't think you can even access the console unless you're on PC, and even then it doesn't really do anything that would be useful for this

[tall wedge]

i have both of the dlcs enabled, yet the dlc variant stages like Siphoned Forest and Disturbed Impact (yes i know DI needs loop) have never appeared in my runs, and i have more than 100 hours in the game
I have tried looking for answers online but noone seemed to have the same issue of the areas not appearing a single time in their runs.
Is there something I am missing? I have both dlcs enabled for runs, do I have to dream of them first in the bazaar? How can I enable them appearing?

[livid wedge]

Sounds like you're just unlucky

[tall wedge]

i have 150+ hours in the game, theres no way its just my luck that leads to me not getting said areas

[lavish jacinth]

There's nothing else you need to do to get them, they should just appear

[tall wedge]

🥀

[livid wedge]

Unless you have mods that could be interfering, it really is just luck

Phenomenally shitty luck but still luck

[undone fox]

what beacons should I use on cap?

also is diablo strike pure silly or is it actually optimal silly

[frosty reef]

shock resupply is a good option, people say hack beacon but on every other survivor you're still fine farming the money for the chest anyways. and yeah diablo is optimal but probes are still fine

[slim spoke]

pure silly, but its also a pillar skip

[undone fox]

so its more a preference choice between consistency or bigass bigbonk big prediction big silly ?

[frosty reef]

shock beacons and mithrix timing make diablo just very usable

[undone fox]

what about shock hack? shock seems real good cus it could make landing diablo easier

I'm considering using diablo cus the bonk stick seems very comical to use

also how does the diablo strike cap pillar skip work

[frosty reef]

again hack is fine but it doesn't ever really give you an advantage in your run other than saving an insignificant amount of time from farming the money for it

[undone fox]

with what equipments would resupp work best with then?

[frosty reef]

literally any decent equip lol

[undone fox]

I just like hack for saving time and money for gamba shrine, legendary chest, occasional large chest

but resupp does seem appealing for turning my funny rockets and poglyps into actually something that's sometimes at least semi useful

[glacial knoll]

All the beacons are just kind of okay so you can use whichever

Unless you really want to trap every enemy in a shock beacon or need the feeling of hacking chance shrines

[undone fox]

me thinks resupp shock big bonk stick will be fujny

also is pillar skip with diablo strike literally just directly dropping it on top of your head?

-# do you have to jump before it hits?

[hoary sedge]

just stand under it yeah (and make sure you have one shot protection up). I don't think you need to jump? and also be careful if you have bleed/collapse, you can proc it on yourself and if you don't have enough healing you'll probably die

[ripe wadi]

What are the chances of getting the other pearl from the cleansing pool

I finally found a second one and got to use it for the first time but I got the 10% max health one

Also why is it when I need to kill scavengers and imp overlords they just don’t exist when I’m on the character that needs them

[fallen bridge]

it is 20%

[ripe wadi]

So I would need 5 lunar items to have the best chance

I almost had that because I got a natural blue portal but didn’t think I would need it

And then low and behold a cleansing pool

[high forum]

technically more lunar items is more chances overall, but 5 specifically doesn't give you any higher odds. it's still an individual 20% chance each time

[fallen bridge]

you'd only have a ~70% chance w/ five lunars, just grab as many inconsequentially-stacking lunars as you can for the best odds

[ripe wadi]

I wish I could but I don’t have the luxury of giving myself millions of coins

I only have 130 I started with over 400

[kindred herald]

Going to the bazaar and grabbing each one on sale is pretty cheap

[fallen bridge]

if you're looping & need some lunar coins you could always fight false son as well ... plus treeborn colony has very high odds to spawn cleansing pools

[ripe wadi]

Yeah but the sanctuary has the highest of em all at 13% rate

[ripe wadi]

Wym sale

[kindred herald]

Every bazaar has 5 lunars you can buy for 2 coins each

[ripe wadi]

I thought that was just base pricing

Would turning off my dlcs help the spawn rate

[fallen bridge]

of cleansing pools? no, since the majority of pools you will see will be on sanctuary/treeborn

[marble magnet]

Lunar stakes won't unlock, uhm

Any reason or

[dull monolith]

You need 44

[marble magnet]

Ah just got it

Thanks

[dull monolith]

Four starting spikes + 40 per growth

[marble magnet]

Ohhh

[dull monolith]

Yw. It could definitely be worded better

[marble magnet]

I understand why now

But it confused me lmao, thought it was a new bug ;W;

[frank sparrow]

whats the best way to get desperado on bandit i cant for the life of me get it

[marble magnet]

Uhh, just use your alt at the last seconds

Not having drone parts or any allies would help

This also goes for family bonding for false son right?

[dull monolith]

Do not be afraid to use command for this

[fallen bridge]

the easiest way is probably + only dmg multipliers (including )

[dull monolith]

Just avoid DoT and things like perferators

It's annoying but not nearly as much as Captain and False Son's alt utilities

[marble magnet]

I struggle with parental binding achievement lmao

I've gotten close two times but both times have been ruined by aliies

One time spare drone part drones killed mythrix before aurellionite could

The second time was when aurellionite targeted the newly spawned beetle guards instead

Idk anymore lmao

;W; I'll try again it's just really really annoying

[frank sparrow]

yeah i think im gonna stack

also is the the rifle or shotgun on bandit better

[fallen bridge]

most players prefer the shotgun but numerically they are pretty similar

[frank sparrow]

what red item is best for going for desperado?

[fallen bridge]

none of them do a crazy amount but laser scope is nice for the extra non-proc dmg

[mellow crystal]

now that i think about it does brilliant behemoth count for b&e

because it does inherit the attributes of lights out/desperado like the on-kill effect iirc

[frank sparrow]

ok cool and does ap rounds increase damage on the final boss?

i assume it does but it dosnt work on the hacelyon shrine boss so i wanted to make sure

[fallen bridge]

halcyon shrine "boss" is literally just a normal enemy

[frank sparrow]

ahh i see

ty

[sand plume]

Not a game question but is fax machine still alive?

[lavish jacinth]

Yes

You posted that right as I opened this channel lol

[frank sparrow]

AYYE thanks for the help guys i got desperado

[sand plume]

lol you answered a lot of my questions when i started out awhile ago (almost 2 years) when i had a different profile pic and name so i just wanted to see if you were still here so Thanks for your help now I have a bunch of information too

[lavish jacinth]

Lol np, glad I could help

[mellow crystal]

fax is a cross-generational force of good

[sand plume]

This is a fact its impressive

[honest badger]

yeah because there's a short grace period for the achievement

[vast solar]

Is captain good? And if so how can I build him?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, he's pretty good

You more or less build him the same way you'd build commando, with a focus on proc items and attack speed

Speed is a little more important since he has basically zero mobility, but in exchange he has a better burst option and can lock down dangerous enemies with taser

Drones are also extra useful, because his passive makes them all inherit nanobots

[vast solar]

Thanks also halcyon shrine are able to be found in the green portal areas?

[lavish jacinth]

They're fairly rare but yeah

[steady stone]

Yes, it spawns a gold portal like if you were on stage 4 or 5

Instead of a green portal

[vast solar]

Tbh im trying to get false son but i end up either making the most dumbest mistake or just dying and usually my plan goes with going to the bazaar or try to find a halcyon shrine in the green portal areas from stage 1-3 (for the record i have no considered to fight mithrix until an hour ago when i gave my second attempt and actually beat him)

[lavish jacinth]

Easiest way to get a Halcyon seed is to visit the bazaar each stage to see if gilded coast shows up in a lunar seer (it's a 5% chance per seer, so ~10% chance per visit). Then AFTER you've gotten it, either take the green portal from there if it spawns, or use the geodes in the bazaar for a guaranteed portal (if you're on stages 1-3 of the current loop)

The geodes in the bazaar don't spawn if you've already visited the green portal stages, so don't use any green portals until you've actually got a halcyon seed (you can still do shrines for the reward tho)

Oh yeah, and command + sacrifice will slightly increase the chance of shrines spawning, so that helps too

[woven reef]

What r the best ways to prevent huntress from being so fragile?

[vast solar]

Wait if i may ask what does the geodes in the bazaar do?

[fallen bridge]

defense items like ... but all but the first 2 aren't super great
instead of "solving" her fragility it's smarter to lean into her mobility & focusing on dodging rather than tanking

[prisma creek]

After I killed Aurelionite, a gold and a green portal spawned. Where do they go?

[steady stone]

gold to return, green for Colossus path (fs)

[fallen bridge]

gold portal will put you onto the normal stages, green portal will put you onto the path of the colossus (which you can leave at any point other than prime meridian)

[prisma creek]

green it is then, ty

I was a bit confused, I thought gold portals were for going to the Aurelionite stage only

[steady stone]

think of the portals as an entrance and exit, i guess

[gray halo]

Hello guys, how do i get ??

[fallen bridge]

both come from cleansing pools, which are rare interactables that take a random lunar from your inventory & gives you a pearl/irradiant pearl (80%/20% respectively)

they're much more common on treeborn colony & aphelian sanctuary, & somewhat more common on siren's call & scorched acres

[lavish jacinth]

If you break 3 of them it spawns a green portal

[vast solar]

Thank you and also whenever i get the halcyon seed i then go for a loop to get more items is that a good idea or? (Im using loader btw)

[fallen bridge]

if you're experienced at fighting false son then you'll be fine, but he is quite hard especially w/ halcy seed

[wispy oyster]

is growth nectar good on false son

[fallen bridge]

very good, yah

[wispy oyster]

epic

[vast solar]

I was completely clueless as to why my aluminiate wasnt spawning until i realized he went against me

[mellow crystal]

loader can actually clear fs with few/zero items pretty easily by abusing :loaderspin: in phase 1

[lavish jacinth]

"I'll try spinning, that's a good trick"
-Loader

[vast solar]

Then secobd and third?

I dont think spinning will help me with the numerous amount of lasers lmao

[mellow crystal]

just treat it like usual, phase 1 is the real issue with most fs fights really
laser isn't too bad as long as you remember to just slowly back away from him and/or bait his slam to slow him down

also when you start phase 3 make sure to move near a geode since he ALWAYS starts the phase with ability steal -> lunar rain -> laser

and similarly phase 2 is always started with lunar rain -> laser iirc

[hexed jewel]

Does anyone know why whenever i try to start an eclipse run it just doesnt work

[lavish jacinth]

if all it does is show a black screen and then take you back to the main menu, then it might be caused by having crossplay enabled

[hexed jewel]

i just had to reopen the game ✌️

[lavish jacinth]

weird, but if it works it works

(you should still turn off crossplay if you have it enabled though)

[winged flume]

keep getting a startup failure pop up after the game fully loads

[lavish jacinth]

a few things you can try that have worked for some people

1. manually kill steam via task manager and try again
2. disable cloud saving for ror2

[winged flume]

i think it only happens sometimes its weird, like i re-boot up the game and it works fine but this isnt the first time that this has happened

this is vanilla without mods

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it seems to be a pretty inconsistent bug

[misty drum]

guys strides of heresy over bandit utility yes or no

im assuming not

[steady stone]

Bandit utility is exceptional with an AoE stun and invisibility to lose enemies and dodge the providence laser, but if you're really desperate for healing it might be better in the short term

[onyx plume]

how does shattering justice work with bandit?

does each 4 bullets from a single shotgun shot (m1) count as 4 hits?

[onyx plume]

therefore 2 shots suffice to trigger armor break?

[fallen bridge]

yah but the duration of the debuff buildup (not the armor reduction debuff itself) will be halved because of the 0.5 proc (the shotgun is also 5 shells, not 4 - so it will only take 1 shot)

[onyx plume]

but its still good right? to get armor reduc first then special

[fallen bridge]

yah

the buildup being affected by proc co means pretty much nothing as long as you can attack faster than the stacks decay (which every survivor can)

[cobalt quiver]

What happened here? I just got into the void fields and suddenly an aegis just dropped out of nowhere??? wtf
not sure if its an invisible chest cuz i just started the chamber so I didnt have any money

[lavish jacinth]

like the item just... spawned on the ground without you doing anything?
the bigger question is why you didn't recycle it

[cobalt quiver]

I think it dropped right after I pressed E or something? but a normal chest is $94 right now so not sure what happened

[lavish jacinth]

An oddly-placerd cloaked chest is probably the most likely thing then

[lavish jacinth]

normally you can kinda see them but with how low your settings seem to be they might just be totally invisible

[marble magnet]

Is palm blast fixed? Does lit finally like scale in level

Apparently it didn't before so

[frank sparrow]

whats the best character to help my friend get rt dual weild?

[mellow crystal]

it is fixed yea

[feral gale]

does vields skip the stage you were supposed to go to

[onyx plume]

should i just scrap tritip dagger as bandit

even tho i got clover

[onyx plume]

that is, scrap for crowbars?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[lavish jacinth]

depends on what you're scrapping it for, although crowbars might be worth it if you're playing around desperado

[normal marsh]

If I hit a shrine of blood pt2 with some shields (not barrier), would that activate my elixir? I know that the shrine calculates max health including the shields, but I want to make sure that the elixer doesn't do the same, so the shrine will leave me with a bit of health above the elixer's marker

[lavish jacinth]

it'll still break your elixir, yeah. the "low health" threshold also takes shields into account

it doesn't account for barrier though iirc, so if you have a brooch or something you can build up some barrier before hitting the shrine to protect the elixir

unstable transmitter will also protect elixirs

[normal marsh]

Unfortunate

(someone should probably add that to the wiki, the fact that the shrines of blood specified it did on there but the elixir didn't gave me a bit of hope 😔)

[mossy mesa]

Does anyone know if seekers of the storm is going to go on sale on steam during the summer sale?

[lavish jacinth]

It was on sale during the last few steam sales, so probably

[mossy mesa]

Cool

Thx

[unkempt quartz]

why can i not get bandits ultimate lock skill? i used it for last hit on boss but still didnt count

lights out

[mossy mesa]

A proc item might have killed him instead of the lights out shot itself

[unkempt quartz]

i had only 4 glasses

😔

oh it wants final boss not the boss of the stage

[livid wedge]

Yeah, gotta do it on the space nerd

[unkempt quartz]

what about my 20 hermmorage everything dies at about 15 even clay distride 💔

[kindred herald]

Do the alloy worship unit

[marble magnet]

At a certain point

Can you just not get whites from chance Shrines if you have 100% on chance doll)

[marble magnet]

?

[glacial knoll]

chance doll drop table is 79g/20r/1y so yeah no more whites

only takes 7 chance dolls

[tender temple]

Dude I fucking love chance doll

I loved that one time it gave me a Genesis loop

[quasi topaz]

Newt in the bazaar

[primal vector]

Happiness is in the little things. And good game design too

[quasi topaz]

And staying out of #ror2-discussion

[prisma creek]

is there a mod to permanently mark pinged chests and interactable things? I know, memory skill issue

[marble magnet]

Man what does slayer mean? (Example, 'Ravenous Bite: Poisonous. Slayer. Regenerative. Bite an enemy for 310% damage

I know I ask alot of questions

I just find this game really interesting, even 400+ hours in

[glacial knoll]

in Skills Not Loadout check keywords

[marble magnet]

Omg I see, sorry for being stupid ;W; I was mid run so

[glacial knoll]

Ah ah yeah you can't check it there either

A lot more raw damage but doesnt apply to procs

[marble magnet]

Got it :3

Alright I'll go back to my run thanks dude

Man ravenous bite is fun with backup mags it's like a second primary

[misty drum]

do people most often fight false son before or after looping? is it really just dependent on how your run is looking by then or

[brittle shuttle]

You can consistently beat him preloop if youre good enough at the boss so depends on you

[frosty reef]

Depends on difficulty no?

[nimble cove]

i just got the game and decided to try out multiplayer, but i fall behind my teammates when it comes to items, i had a run this morning where two people had 40+ items and i had like 13, why was i so behind?

[frosty reef]

Because they aren't doing a good job of building anyone else up but themselves

Gotta share loot drops not pick up all the items you can and neglect your teammates

[main rampart]

to get the seekers of the storm skins do I have to beat the boss in moonsoon? Im trying to speedrun the achievements and I dont wanna play commando moonsoon anymore ☠️

[fallen bridge]

any difficulty works

[main rampart]

tyyy

[nimble cove]

yea they kinda just kept throwing terms i dont know at me and told me to pick some stuff up but other than that i didnt see very many items for myself 😭

[frosty reef]

:) Race on yt has a couple coop runs that highlight how you should treat your teammates in this game if it helps. Can just search race coop ror2

[tender temple]

ninja loot every day

[frank sparrow]

do hermit crabs spawn on titanic plains stage 1? trying to get gesture of the drowned

[primal vector]

No, you need to loop

[frank sparrow]

oml alright just once?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[primal vector]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/The_Demons_And_The_Crabs
Check the advice here so you dont loop for nothing

[frank sparrow]

ty

would artifact of swarms be good for this?

[primal vector]

Yes. Just be careful not to kill them

[deft ridge]

can anyone tell which stages these are? I can't rll see it lol

[primal vector]

Right is Sirens call and left Sundered grove

[deft ridge]

ty!

[brittle shuttle]

If you mean eclipse sure ig?

unfortunately because of eclipse modifiers parts of fs kinda just get borked

And become really unfun

But you can very much so beat him consistently in the main 3 modes

False son keeping up the final boss tradition of becoming more unfun in eclipse

Though his case is a bit worse than mithrix

[frank sparrow]

how do i do the infinite health false son build cause i can barely move

[steady stone]

using your lunar spikes gives you a speed boost for each consumed spike

[uneven tangle]

Stack up on movement if that’s an issue

[steady stone]

it also doesnt completely nullify stone flux, but it's a good chunk

[frank sparrow]

so like a permanant speed boost per?

[steady stone]

No, for each empty slot

but more health = more slots = more speed

[frank sparrow]

ok how can i get faster cooldown on my m2

[uneven tangle]

What skill is it?

[frank sparrow]

the spikes throw

[uneven tangle]

Main, secondary, mobility, or utility?

[frank sparrow]

lunar spikes

[uneven tangle]

Ah

I wouldn’t know, I have yet to unlock False Son

[quasi topaz]

reduces all ability cooldowns

[steady stone]

the speed requires you to use the spikes, if they come back you lose that speed boost of that spike
so for stone flux, that would hurt you

unused spikes give Regen and armor, used spikes are speed

[frank sparrow]

oh ok i thought that i need then for main damage

[steady stone]

they're good damage but stone flux builds mostly just consist of trying to outweigh the downside of lower speed

i phrased that really poorly, hold on

stone flux is an insane health boost, but the main motto of this game is "don't stop moving"

the speed boost from the spikes is what turns stone flux from a D tier item to S

[trim lynx]

yea yer wanna keep a low amount of spikes generally with stone flux

using the laser burst allows you to regain spikes very quickly for in combat if that interests you though

[ionic pewter]

chat i come seeking guidance. Im trying to play multiplayer, but when the others go to character select, i am left in a big spacious void and not counted in their lobby anymore. ive tried all the basic solutions i can find online including updating my computer, updating the drivers, disabling steam/epicgames crossplay, verifying integrity of the game files, reinstalling the game entirely, letting it bypass my firewall, and nothing has helped. has anyone else had this happen or have any suggestions?

[loud summit]

somebody tell me whats going on with this guy

[uneven tangle]

He’s a little autistic

[primal vector]

My only suggestion is taking your save to another folder and unistalling and reinstalling so you are completely blank. Just so you try everything

[ionic pewter]

and how might i find the save, on windows 11?

[primal vector]

#1381776398422642860 message

This should get you there

You can also look for save edit guides

[ionic pewter]

that links to an unknown channel

[primal vector]

Ehhhh

In #1172187541349347429 look for "stuck in an infinite loop"

go to

~/.steam/steam/userdata/[number]/[number starting with 6]/remote/userprofiles/ (linux)

and C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata(number)\632360\remote\UserProfiles (windows)

then make a new file, then cut everything from the game file into there, then delete everything from the game file, then uninstall and then reinstall @primal vector

ALSO BACKUP YOUR SAVE DATA

Nah, ill just post the message

[ionic pewter]

you lost me at the userdata part, there is no file with that name

[primal vector]

I am not on my pc atm, I cannot give more details sorry

You may search directly by 632360

[ionic pewter]

i do not have any files or folders by that name

[onyx plume]

im at stage 3 and found a credit card. I already am holding a recycler. Whats the better choice?

[lavish jacinth]

keeping the recycler so you can reroll the stage 4 red (if necessary) would be a smart play, but there's really no wrong choice

card and recycler are both extremely strong but also very rng-dependent, so it's really hard to say which is better

just depends on whether you want more items or better items

[onyx plume]

ah okok

thank you

[twilit hollow]

Hello ppl of ror2 so uhhh I'd like to get some solutions FOR MY BLACK SCREEN

Perchance

[lavish jacinth]

can you be more specific?

[twilit hollow]

So when i click the singleplayer button i just get a black screen

Nothing else just a void in my eyes lol

And i see alot of ppl with that prob with different solutions that doesnt work for me somehow

[lavish jacinth]

first step would be making sure crossplay is turned off (assuming you're on steam), although if you've looked at other solutions I imagine you've tried that already

[steady stone]

that's because every copy of ror2 is personalised, but crossplay is right 50% of the time

and for some reason affects singleplayer

[twilit hollow]

Is crossplay the turn off cloud sync or smt?

Cus i aint sure whether i tried it or not

[lavish jacinth]

no, it should be at the top of the first page of settings

[steady stone]

first option in the settings i believe

Epic/Steam crossplay

[lavish jacinth]

man, I miss the days when crossplay was basically the only thing that caused bugs on pc lol
troubleshooting used to be so simple

[twilit hollow]

I'll try that when i turn on the pc its cooling down rn the heat is crazy

[steady stone]

that could also be a problem 😭

[twilit hollow]

Any other solutions to add in my list?

[lavish jacinth]

uh, maybe get a cooling fan for your pc lol

[steady stone]

new thermal paste

[twilit hollow]

Nah my pc is perfectly fine with 500C°

[twilit hollow]

Its a laptop

[steady stone]

but uh, verify game files helps sometimes

a last last resort is to delete the game folder and reinstall, which removes your settings

[steady stone]

ah, yeah taking apart a laptop is hell

[twilit hollow]

I might as well delete system 32

(Not joking that was a solution someone posted in reddit)

[steady stone]

it's reddit

[twilit hollow]

Using a laptop IS HELL

That thing gets hotter then the sun and i aint even doing much in it

[jolly kelp]

Wild Reddit post

[twilit hollow]

I mean its reddit thats normal lol🐱

[steady stone]

but steam never does a hard reset through their in-app uninstall, which can sometimes cause problems

[jolly kelp]

Yeah

[steady stone]

games that you manual mod need to be deleted all the time because of it

but general errors can have the same effect rarely

[twilit hollow]

What is ror2 even abt tho

[lavish jacinth]

mail theft

[jolly kelp]

I think it’s the sequel to RoR1

[steady stone]

for that, we have the Grovetender lore videos

[twilit hollow]

Nah i meant gameplay

[steady stone]

other than that, horde items, kill Mithrix

[jolly kelp]

Yeah p much

[steady stone]

always just try to get as many items as possible

[twilit hollow]

That seems like a bug name ngl

[jolly kelp]

Don’t get too many items or mithrix will take you out on the 3rd phase

[steady stone]

nah

[lavish jacinth]

1. shoot
2. loot
3. kill god
4. try not to die (you will)

[lavish jacinth]

lol nah

[twilit hollow]

I mean i didnt even play the game yet cus of that black screen lol

[honest badger]

In risk of rain 1, space amazon crashes into the planet and everyone dies except a few lucky survivors who kill god. In risk of rain 2, we steal their stuff and kill god's brother

[steady stone]

the more items the better, the bad ones are blacklisted like Safer Spaces and SDP

[twilit hollow]

I literally have 3 hours of nothing in ror2

[jolly kelp]

I beat him with mulT for my first successful run

[steady stone]

mithrix is subject to AIBlacklist and BrotherBlacklist, which can be found on the wiki

[jolly kelp]

Huh

[steady stone]

generally useless or unfair items

[twilit hollow]

They rly likes to kill gods in that game

[honest badger]

well the first one was an asshole so it's fair

[twilit hollow]

Its just a bug I'd fix probably

[lavish jacinth]

the game has been buggy lately lol

[jolly kelp]

What platform are you on

[twilit hollow]

That black screen bug is since 2023 man

[honest badger]

what black screen bug

[jolly kelp]

Never seen it

[honest badger]

usually that means your game installation is borked

[twilit hollow]

Well when u click singleplayer you're just frozen in a black screen

[lavish jacinth]

that specific one is older but there have been new bugs as well

[steady stone]

multiple things can cause the black screen

[twilit hollow]

Damn is the game still getting updates or nah

[steady stone]

most commonly things in multiplayer

[honest badger]

it has a new dlc coming out

[twilit hollow]

Yh but im singleplayer so thats weird

[jolly kelp]

It could be too many things needing to be loaded or rendered

[steady stone]

crossplay doesn't really care if you're actually in a lobby

[twilit hollow]

Damn

[lavish jacinth]

it is, but the new updates have been changing a bunch of things under the hood

[jolly kelp]

I’m on Nintendo and I’ve never had any problems

[lavish jacinth]

it works fine for some people

[twilit hollow]

Man i left the game in black screen for an hour cus i thought that things were loading lol

[jolly kelp]

Ah

[twilit hollow]

I think my gambling chances weren't gud

[jolly kelp]

Restart?

[twilit hollow]

Im gonna bite u

[jolly kelp]

If your on steam go to the gear when your on the RoR2 page thing and hit view integrity of game files

It always fixes any problems I have when I play R6 which is bigger and it works just fine

It’s middle right of the page

[steady stone]

if it says something about 2 missing files ignore that

that's part of the gearbox magic

[jolly kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[steady stone]

every time you verify this game it says there were 2 missing files

[twilit hollow]

Does having a weak laptop cause that black screen or naw

[steady stone]

gearbox has to turn them to dust or something to run your game

[steady stone]

I mean it could cause general performance errors but

[lavish jacinth]

possible but unlikely, plenty of people play the game with terrible specs

[jolly kelp]

It might do you have like a 3060 or smth

[lavish jacinth]

I literally have a 3060 and it works fine lmao

[twilit hollow]

Im beyond terrible man🤡

[lavish jacinth]

you really don't need much for ror2

[twilit hollow]

I have a gt 540m/i7 2630QM/6gb ram

[jolly kelp]

I love the uke will o’ pendant strat

[twilit hollow]

But it says that i can run it in that one website

[lavish jacinth]

6gb ram might be an issue but you should at least be able to start a run

[steady stone]

as long as you don't go too far or get too crazy proc items

some unlocks might be annoying though

i remember hearing the switch players whine about crashing before getting stage 20 for clover

[jolly kelp]

Yeah… might’ve accidentally done something like that before

[twilit hollow]

Is that game working like u unlock an item in ur runs when u do smt

Like in other roguelikes

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[steady stone]

there's unlock conditions yeah

[twilit hollow]

I like this

[brazen sluice]

did they change railgunner's charged shot? its not piercing through large swarms of enemies like it used to. it seems to not be piercing at all or not be a wide column like it was before

[steady stone]

you only start with so much but it's a fun game to 100% because of the unlocks

[twilit hollow]

Im definitely playing this

[twilit hollow]

I agree unlocks are fun in games in general

[jolly kelp]

I love these in a run

[lavish jacinth]

nope, should be the same as ever afaik

[twilit hollow]

Is that a mirror

[jolly kelp]

Is it just me or is that jack black in the will o wisp image

[steady stone]

if it's (railgunner charge) still up for debate, i could test it like, next week if reminded

[jolly kelp]

It’s the topaz brooch

[steady stone]

not home, but later could open up debug and hitboxes

[twilit hollow]

Are dlcs worth to get?

There are two i think

[jolly kelp]

Idk

[lavish jacinth]

if you enjoy the game then yeah, they're good

[twilit hollow]

3 soon

[jolly kelp]

I would if I could

[steady stone]

SOTV has good items, SOTS has good characters

They both have good stages and literally the best music

[jolly kelp]

I don’t have a j*b lol

[twilit hollow]

Im getting one as a 14 y/o man lock in

[lavish jacinth]

...too good, some might even say

[twilit hollow]

U gotta be emp**yed

[steady stone]

just don't play em

[jolly kelp]

Yeah I don’t want to go to c*llege

[twilit hollow]

I no no wanna go to hi*h school

[jolly kelp]

I might apprentice as an electrician on a real note because they make $30 an hour at their peak

[twilit hollow]

Im learning to ethical hack

Its legal somehow

[jolly kelp]

The wages raise like $3 every month and some programs offer to become a foreman right off the back

[steady stone]

White hat, grey hat, and black hat hackers

It's legal because white hats have so much paperwork first

[twilit hollow]

Is my black screen a black hat

[jolly kelp]

Lol

[twilit hollow]

I have a theory...

THE ENDER DRAGON

Anyway back to topic

[jolly kelp]

Dude have you seen the clip of China uncensored where the guy says China has the necessary materials to craft a beacon after successfully killing the wither

I’ll paste it here if you want

[twilit hollow]

Yh i saw that it motivated me to eat ppl irl!!!

[jolly kelp]

Wild

[twilit hollow]

U seem like a chill dude ngl

[jolly kelp]

You should play r6 seige

Just don’t go into ranked

[twilit hollow]

Im imprisoning u in my basement

Do u mind that or naw

[jolly kelp]

I played 1 game of ranked and lost all happiness

[twilit hollow]

Whats that

[jolly kelp]

As long as I have food I’m good

1 sec

[twilit hollow]

Are spiders count

[jolly kelp]

Speaking of insects I hate horseflies and mosquitoes with every fiber of my being

[twilit hollow]

Oh this

I forgot it existed

[jolly kelp]

R6 seige is a 5v5 tactical shooter featuring ~60 ops n unique abilities

[twilit hollow]

Black ops?

[jolly kelp]

They released seige X like yesterday

[jolly kelp]

It’s slower paced

[twilit hollow]

Which is faster ultrakill or these two

[lavish jacinth]

you guys should probably move this to a dm lol
or #other-games

[jolly kelp]

COD is way to fast paced for me and I don’t wanna get styled on by a kid my age in a short or smth

[jolly kelp]

Ok

[twilit hollow]

Just dm me ig 🐱@jolly kelp

[jolly kelp]

Alr

[twilit hollow]

I dont bite i swear

[agile crystal]

lmao

man thats all i hear

little kids doing the most unholy movement ever and me dying just to get trash talked

it kills my soul whenever i hear them

[jolly kelp]

Yeah

That’s also why I only play Fortnite zero build

[agile crystal]

Man i wanna get into fn sb

but damn i cant enjoy that game anymore, even after not playng it for years

[steady stone]

risk of rain two chat

[jolly kelp]

[mint yarrow]

why isnt the last artifact key spawning D:

[lavish jacinth]

the rng gods are displeased

[mint yarrow]

FINALY GOT IT

😭

[tough dragon]

Do cleansing pools remove tonic affliction, and/or will it take my spinel tonic ?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, you can't get rid of afflictions. It will take the tonic itself though

[tough dragon]

okkk thx

[frigid mural]

With loader's charged gauntlet, is it just your initial speed when using it that matters, or should the direction of your momentum also be the same as the direction you're charging in? I assume the latter, but I'm not sure

[lavish jacinth]

your momentum and direction do matter, yeah

[frigid mural]

Alright, thanks. Just trying to figure out how to best use charged gauntlet. Especially on things with lots of health. Lot of going back and forth

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, grappling them directly and punching towards them is usually good enough, but if you wanna maximize damage then it's best to use the environment and build up as much speed as you can

while grappled you constantly accelerate in the direction you're holding with no upper limit, so the further you're able to swing uninterrupted, the better

[frank sparrow]

does ignition tank increase hellfire tincture damage?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

and that includes the self damage

[glacial knoll]

stack 50 wax quails for optimal charged gauntlet

[onyx plume]

is stacking 10 crit glasses on loader (if i can find, that is) ever worth it?

[onyx plume]

assuming no spleen, no scope

just as a guaranteed 2x mult

[glacial knoll]

Crit is always good except railgunner

[onyx plume]

over white items like crowbars?

[glacial knoll]

Loaders one of the good Crowbar users so I guess crowbar might be better

[onyx plume]

ah, i put it the wrong way

[lavish jacinth]

it wouldn't be worth giving up a crowbar to print crit glasses, ideally you'd just have some of both

[onyx plume]

yeah i hsouldn't have included the last assumption

but yeah in general crit glasses are good on loader?

[lavish jacinth]

^^^^

[onyx plume]

its less efficient compared to other survivors tho right?

[glacial knoll]

How?

[lavish jacinth]

it's always +10% dps on average (again except railgunner)

[trim lynx]

bandit its also not as good on

still good tho

[lavish jacinth]

yeah bandit loses some value

[glacial knoll]

bandit and acrid lower priority sure

[onyx plume]

okok

[glacial knoll]

Crit isn't affected by proc coeff and it's just double the damage so idk what assumption you have that it might be worse or better on some characters

other than Railgunner whos passive is making crit glasses bad

[onyx plume]

i feel like if you get unlucky

you never hit crit on each punch during a boss fight and i feel bad xd

but thats avg'ed out during the whole run ig

[lavish jacinth]

are probably slightly better for loader just for consistency, but crit is still good

[trim lynx]

lens arent any worse on her tho, theres just some higher priorities

:)

[lavish jacinth]

I would say crit does slightly favor proc-focused characters, just because most crit synergy items work best with high proc rate. But just having a few stacks of lensmakers is almost always solid

(and I guess that has more to do with those items specifically and not crit in general lol)

[trim lynx]

^

[marble magnet]

Is the sots route of stages worth it?

Like from stage 1 then to the underground stage, then the tree stage and the false son fight before going back onto main stages?

[lavish jacinth]

reformed altar has more interactable credits than the other stage 2s so you'll potentially get more loot there, but treeborn colony and prime meridian can be skipped if you don't want to fight false son imho

[marble magnet]

Ight

Usually I do both altar and treeborn colony but stop at false son because I dislike failure

But idk

Well it's more like

I don't feel powerful enough

Or speedy enough

I hate that false son auto locks

Onto you with his teleport slam

[lavish jacinth]

treeborn has the same credits as the other stage 3s so that one's up to preference I guess

for some baffling reason known only to gearbox, reformed actually has slightly more than treeborn

300 vs 280

which is like, one extra small chest or multishop at best

[marble magnet]

Wow

Is prime meridian worth it?

I feel like I usually end up netting atleast 1-2 extra reds every time I go there and succeed in beating false son

[lavish jacinth]

oh wait, I forgot

they changed prime meridian so that it doesn't skip stage 4 anymore, I was thinking it still took you straight to stage 5 lol

I always end at false son so I forgor lul

in that case yeah, prime meridian is worth doing if you think you can beat false son

[marble magnet]

Wait it slipped stage 4 before? (I got the dlc after the roadmap was finished)

[marble magnet]

Ight

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it used to always take you to helminth hatchery

[marble magnet]

Oh so like

Helminth hatchery was kinda apart of the path but isn't anymore?

[lavish jacinth]

kinda? it's just a normal stage 5

but you used to always go there after PM rather than it being a 50/50 for that or sky meadows, because lore or something probably idk

[marble magnet]

Yea lmao

Also very odd ting just happened
.

Mountain shine but only had to defeat 1 teleporter boss

*thing

[lavish jacinth]

that can happen sometimes

it doesn't necessarily double the number of bosses, just the difficulty of the fight

[marble magnet]

Not a elite either I'm so confused

Ah

[lavish jacinth]

so sometimes you'll get a single stronger boss rather than two weaker ones

[marble magnet]

I think this is the first time that's ever happened to me tho

[lavish jacinth]

or depending on the map, there could've been another one but it spawned in a wall or something and died instantly lol

[marble magnet]

Hmm yea

I mean a stone titan spawned also but it wasn't a teleporter boss

Can that happen?

[lavish jacinth]

I mean yeah, bosses can spawn as normal enemies if the director can afford it

[marble magnet]

I know that but

Directly when the teleporter was started unless I missed something

I guess it's whatever

Actually another question

Why is false son (the character) so strong

Like I feel like the growth is too powerful

Great for me he's really fun to play and he actually feels like the boss you fought but still

[lavish jacinth]

gearbox just made false son and seeker absurdly op for whatever reason lol

at least FS has the excuse of being a playable final boss and a literal god-thing in lore

[marble magnet]

And seeker has a heart in a container

Guess that heart comes from god's too huh

God the self revive sucks because it makes me feel like a bad player whenever I use it up

One seeker run I had 4 deaths but still won

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, there was a lot of backlash to that from veteran players

but it seems like it's here to stay because "new players like it"

[marble magnet]

I think it would be better if it was just one perma revive built in but also a built in power Elixir like it was before

If you use up the perma revive you have no more

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think she needs a self revive at all tbh

the reusable elixir was already good

and then she has an absurdly strong kit on top of that

[marble magnet]

Does palm blast give any bonuses on the 7th stack of tranquility

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[marble magnet]

like at all

I feel like it needs to compare to how strong meditate is

It's harder to stack

The damage is nice but

You just feel like your robbing yourself of a revive when using it

[lavish jacinth]

and it's not like meditate doesn't also have good damage lol

the only thing palm blast really has going for it is being easier to use

[marble magnet]

I wouldn't even say that, sure it's definitely because I have had aim but

Man the amount of times I could've sworn I can get the multi hit but the beetle just decided to walk out the way just in time

[lavish jacinth]

I mean it's easier in the sense that you don't have to do the little arrow minigame

which may not even matter depending on how good you are at the minigame lol

[marble magnet]

I can usually do the mini game with only one input missed or none at all

I have the rare complete flunk at it because of stress but otherwise

[chrome mist]

does defeating false son count as winning for beating eclipse

[clear whale]

no