ror2-game-questions

[primal vector]

No, you cannot. Maybe there is a mod that allows you to change it

https://thunderstore.io/package/Judgy/EclipseArtifacts/
This one for example

[spiral bridge]

thanks!

[thorn shell]

Does my aurelionite spawn when im fighting mithrix

[gritty hollow]

yes, in phase 4

[thorn shell]

Phase 4???

Theres 4 phases oh my goodness

[cunning jay]

does anyone know a mod that allows you to blacklist certain stages?

like that new one with lava. i hate it

[round crane]

hi

[thorn shell]

Is the washed away character good? I just beat the game

[fleet zodiac]

Captain? Hes decent

[jade vortex]

He go BOOM

[gritty hollow]

captain feels pretty slow to me

[slim spoke]

i mean he has literally zero dash

[gritty hollow]

not just movement

his abilities are also slow

[slim spoke]

the hitlag is compensatable

he just has a steep learning curve

trust me hes not undercooked

[jade vortex]

Is desperado on bandit good?

[gritty hollow]

one of the best abilities in the game

[jade vortex]

I wish somewhat of it was permanent

Cause I hate having to get the damage back up

[gritty hollow]

that would make it too OP

[jade vortex]

Eh

[gritty hollow]

lights out is also solid, if you don't want to bother with it

[gritty hollow]

should i get the last ability then? ive been to rpd a few times but haven't gotten any

[slim spoke]

if you like to

it helps you get items easier

[quick sable]

What are the best abilities for railgunner?

Or like the main loadout

[frosty reef]

Just don't use the polar mines and you're fine

[foggy crypt]

hi so im new to risk of rain 2 any tips cuz im getting my ass handed lol

[gritty hollow]

here's my attempt at some tips:

fully explore the map to find all the loot
as you learn the maps, you'll do this more quickly, which means the difficulty won't go up as high
feel free to lower the difficulty to drizzle while learning maps, that's what it's there for
don't worry about any "5 minute rule" anyone may have told you, you'll get there naturally as you become more efficient

commando and huntress felt kinda bad as I was learning tbh
you can unlock several other survivors relatively easily:
bandit: ||complete the third teleporter event||
mul-t: ||complete the first teleporter event 5 times (doesn't have to be in a single run)||
engineer: ||complete 30 stages (doesn't have to be in a single run)||
loader: ||defeat the secret boss on siren's call, one of the stage 4s||
artificer: ||costs 10 lunar coins, which you can get a ton of from completing other challenges, at the bazaar between time||

dying 5 times (doesn't have to be in a single run) unlocks a pretty good item

under settings/gameplay/umbrella features, you will see an option called "enable teleporter particle scaling" which makes it much easier to find

[foggy crypt]

Alr thanks

I’ve unlocked bandit by just playing and so far he’s fun

[gritty hollow]

yeah it was a big shock to me going "oh shit this guy *actually* does damage"

[thorn shell]

Why can't I see my achievements for the game on epic?

[gritty hollow]

are there guides in this discord for each survivor?
i figure this is the place that would have the most up-to-date ones
captain and mercenary especially seem the least intuitive for me (I haven't played vf or acrid tho)

[steady stone]

the wiki.gg has some LONG lists of tips/advice (on the page for each survivor), and the pins in this channel have a few general guides/mithrix tips for survivors

[trim lynx]

X112 or X111 probably

[lavish jacinth]

there's a link to a merc guide in the pins, it's pretty old but most of it is still accurate (except the slam tech which no longer exists)

[quasi crystal]

i got today to E8 with engi and for some weird reason when i die i get revived (obv without dio's best friend), does anyone know why? i just get revived once, nothing special

[daring cloak]

Did you get a seed of life?

[quasi crystal]

nope

[lavish jacinth]

shrine of shaping?

[quasi crystal]

OH

the soul thing

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

it gives you an extra life for that stage

[quasi crystal]

clutched my run fr omg

i would've given up on E8, i had an amazing run

[round crane]

minute one of waiting

[ashen cipher]

how come with command artifact I only see 5 void items to select?

[coarse mauve]

the void items have their own rarities, and so you can only select from that rarity group

[ashen cipher]

i see

how can i find green void items, last run i did i only found the 5 white item void things

[round crane]

play & pray

[ashen cipher]

gotcha

[round crane]

same as u get gray corrupteds

but once u get any other than gray its rly nice

rly satysfying to get smth other than lenses needletick and all that stuff

[brittle shuttle]

Void items reflect the rarity of their counterpart

is a common is an uncommon

[ashen cipher]

ty ty

[round crane]

what to pick if i want to always be at less than 50% hp at tp event?

[high forum]

DON'T pick

[round crane]

okay

then what to pick

[ocean knoll]

I would just spam his m2

this is for REX right?

[round crane]

ik

yes

[ocean knoll]

ye just m2 spam

maybe alien head?

[round crane]

isnt m2 alredy at 0.5cooldown?

[daring cloak]

It is

[ocean knoll]

yeah it's really short

[round crane]

yeah then it wont do anything

i heard everything is hardstuck 0.5s at least

[daring cloak]

I'd take daggers or tesla coil

[round crane]

tesla

[ocean knoll]

idk that achievement was just super easy in my opinion

just don't die after spamming m2 and you're chilling

[round crane]

wat eq to get?

[ocean knoll]

a damage one maybe

DML or Sawmerang

idk

[daring cloak]

I'd say the backup so you have 4 drones to distract enemies

[round crane]

which one is it

2nd row middle?

[daring cloak]

[round crane]

thanks

[slender ferry]

Boosted Sear's description says "Scorch nearby enemies and fire three fireballs dealing 700% damage." does this mean each fireball deals 700% damage each, or that the total damage from all 3 is 700% ?

[round crane]

i think it would be 700% dmg total

2100% dmg seems a bit too much

[lavish jacinth]

it's 700% each

[round crane]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-pear-teto-kasane-kasane-teto-pearto-gif-4073515854621499966

[low cave]

how to not get beat up by perfected flying chimeras every time I make it to the moon, genuinely the last 3 vaseless moon runs have all ended to this exact situation

immediately after leaving the spawn cave too it always happens

[lavish jacinth]

run to cover as soon as you can and play around it as much as possible, wait until you hear them stop firing before you peek out and damage them

or if you can, try to get to another island and pick them off from a distance, they're really slow and have a hard time following you

[low cave]

I'm working on my rex eclipse grind so running away isn't an option every run but I'll try it next time

[pulsar creek]

Rex has no damage falloff so try your best to stay far and behind cover

[lavish jacinth]

also, they only shoot for 4 seconds at a time and then have a fairly long cooldown, so you get a pretty good window to attack them

just be careful of the bomb attack, but both attacks have a pretty long windup animation

[kind inlet]

Would you guys go into a Bison Steak Printer on False Son?

[e8]

[mellow crystal]

I'd print like two or four if you don't already have growth

[kind inlet]

just to get the second copy of laser?

[mellow crystal]

That + some spikes yea

[kind inlet]

nvm prob not my stage1 items are kinda goated

[upper trellis]

Is there any info on the DLC 3 release date?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

other than that it'll probably be out this year

[brittle shuttle]

only 4-6 if you dont already have some growth on you

false son gives steak more value but its not a whole lot

if you already have 150-200 extra hp its generally not worth it compared to some other whites

[nocturne sierra]

If you give an equipment drone a seed of life can it revive you?

[brittle shuttle]

the ever reliable growth scaling chart

[lavish jacinth]

technically yes but it usually won't

[nocturne sierra]

Because it dies first?

[lavish jacinth]

no, it has to use it in the few seconds before the death screen pops up

it doesn't automatically do it when you die like it would if you were holding it

[daring cloak]

It basically has to target an enemy

[nocturne sierra]

But you can revive a teammate whenever

Oh wait

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, because in multiplayer the death screen doesn't show up until everyone is dead

[daring cloak]

Yeah but if it has no enemy to lock on to it wont use the seed

[nocturne sierra]

Yeah

[lavish jacinth]

although if you ARE in multiplayer then yeah, a drone with seed would work

[nocturne sierra]

Alright thanks guys

[nocturne sierra]

Does meridians will have I-frames

[daring cloak]

Yes

[kind inlet]

Handy!

Thanks (:

makes me realize 1 infusion does a lot for false son

[brittle imp]

did they put the borderlands patch into ror2?

[hoary sedge]

the what

[patent talon]

I got a strange question but I just started this game like last night and was wondering how I could get to find the teleporters faster because I always struggle with that

[crude canyon]

You can see these golden like sparkles in the air and it'll generally (at least in my experience) be near the other side of the stage

[lavish jacinth]

^^^^ that, and there's a setting to make the particles more visible, "teleporter particle scaling" under that umbrella settings thing on the first page

[patent talon]

Thank you @crude canyon and @lavish jacinth

[crude canyon]

No worries

[hoary sedge]

once you get a bit more experience you can also locate it by sound, it constantly emits a chiptune melody that follows the chords of the background music

if youre just starting out then probably just focus on the particles for now though

[shell mango]

I didn’t know it made sound and have been playing since before 1.0. I always just used the particles

[supple snow]

any tips on the family bonding achievement, i tried it on ps4 and it didnt work, even though clearly ari clearly killed mithrix with 27 stacks of lunar ruin... i posted a thing on it and had the vid attached to it...

[lavish jacinth]

can you repost the clip here or link to it?

[supple snow]

1371621889121845258

that went sour

heres the actual link, that was the thread id https://discordapp.com/channels/417739215355510784/1371621889121845258

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I have no idea what happened there, going frame by frame Aurelionite definitely got the final hit

and the last ruin stack was applied recently enough that it couldn't have run out on the last possible frame or something

[supple snow]

But looking at the damage, wasnt aurelionite supposed to deal lunar ruin or no

[lavish jacinth]

no

[supple snow]

Like in her damage would be boosted buy lunar ruin

[lavish jacinth]

oh

well, it is

[supple snow]

It wasnt in this case

[lavish jacinth]

I checked the math, it definitely is

[supple snow]

Ok, i just dont get why i didnt get it

The achievement

[lavish jacinth]

it actually seems to be doing more than it should considering its level and the fact that mithrix still has armor in phase 4, sp maybe I'm missing something there
but either way it's being affected by ruin

[supple snow]

This is still a bug tho

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I can't think of any reason it shouldn't have worked

[supple snow]

I was just mad that i did this 3 times and my 3rd successful attempt, i got nothing

[lavish jacinth]

rip

[supple snow]

Yep, im just gonna wait till stuff gets patched, besides that all i have is captain for diablo(its been a pain for me) and both captain and rex for mastery

[jade vortex]

Is there a max damage you can do in 1 hit?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[steady stone]

theoretically

it took like, a few billion damage items iirc, but it overflowed to one eventually

[lavish jacinth]

well, there's no practical damage limit

[jade vortex]

Cause even tho I’m getting more laser scopes and crowbars my desperado is only doing 998M damage and not going up

[steady stone]

yeah it freezes the display to that for some reason, but it won't overflow for ages

that's just the number though

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's just the damage numbers that have a limit

[steady stone]

like special scaling boss health bars can display -2.4/-2.4billion, but don't actually have negative health

[lavish jacinth]

also if you're just stacking the same items you're gonna be getting diminishing returns anyway

[jade vortex]

Oh

[lavish jacinth]

that's why you mix different multipliers

[jade vortex]

So it only shows 998M damage even tho it does more

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[jade vortex]

What does that mean

[steady stone]

like, a crowbar and a watch are different multipliers

[jade vortex]

Hm?

[steady stone]

crowbar, watch, fcrystal, it's better to have a mix of your damage items

[lavish jacinth]

is better than even though they're all 20%

[jade vortex]

I have 280 crowbars and 10 watches and 20 laser scopes

And 2 amour bullets thing

And 4 shaped glass

[steady stone]

if you're command you can also get 65 if you're worried about breaking watches

also, don't go over 127 glass

[jade vortex]

I have 108 tougher times

[jade vortex]

Why?

[steady stone]

you just die lol

not sure how long you plan on playin that run

[lavish jacinth]

your health decreases so much that the game rounds down to 0 and you die instantly

[jade vortex]

O

[lavish jacinth]

fun fact, you can instakill mithrix in phase 4 by having multiple players with a total of 128+ glass between them, because the same thing happens to him when he steals your items

[jade vortex]

Oh

Does nukanas resort buff damage?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[jade vortex]

Oh

Any other damage items I should get?

[lavish jacinth]

I guess

Chronic expansion if you have SotS

[jade vortex]

I grabbed 2

[lavish jacinth]

more shaped glass

[jade vortex]

Ok

Any way to not take any damage?

[lavish jacinth]

I think that might be it for damage items that don't require hitting an enemy at least once to apply a debuff first

[lavish jacinth]

65

at 65 stacks it has a 1 frame cooldown

[jade vortex]

Even against miniguns

[lavish jacinth]

it's possible to take damage but you'd basically have to do it on purpose

[jade vortex]

Also the game has refused to give me any voids

I have artifact of swarms

[lavish jacinth]

or just get movement speed and be fast enough that nothing can hit you

[lavish jacinth]

oh wait,

try to remember that rachis exists challenge (impossible)

[jade vortex]

?

What’s that

[jade vortex]

Won’t it buff enimes?

[lavish jacinth]

there's also

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's why it's a lunar

[jade vortex]

Any legendary I should grab

And what about pray beads

[lavish jacinth]

growth nectar ig

[jade vortex]

Ok

[lavish jacinth]

they'd help a little bit yeah

[jade vortex]

Does stacking 57 leaf clovers help?

And don’t pray beads increase the base stat

[lavish jacinth]

if you have any of these then yes

[jade vortex]

What about enimes dropping legendary s

[lavish jacinth]

it's a flat buff to your base stats yeah, for reference 20 stacks of the beads buff is equal to about 3-4 player levels

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't affect item rarity or sacrifice drop rates

[jade vortex]

Oh

[jade vortex]

Nice

What about one pray bead that’s level 87?

[lavish jacinth]

that'd probably be like 15ish levels I think

[jade vortex]

Ok

@lavish jacinth is safer spaces maxed out at 1 per frame

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[jade vortex]

So 42 safer spaces or 120 tougher times?

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, probably still the safer spaces

that's still less that a 1 second cooldown

as long as you're at least slightly trying to not get hit, you'll be fine

[jade vortex]

Cause there’s a lot of solas peoples and minivans

[lavish jacinth]

65 stacks is where it caps

[jade vortex]

Mini guns

[lavish jacinth]

uh

you mean clay templars?

they don't shoot once per frame

[jade vortex]

Yes

?

Oh and what about repolsion aromur plates

[lavish jacinth]

they might be able to hit you through 65 SS if you stand still and let them shoot you, but like... just don't do that

[jade vortex]

Do they do much

[lavish jacinth]

if you're really late into the run then probably not

[jade vortex]

I am

160 minets in on rainetorm

And I got 200 of the amour thingys

[lavish jacinth]

okay, 200 repulsion plates would probably still do something

[jade vortex]

Ok

[frigid glen]

should I ruin yes chef or glaze for seer chef?

[mellow crystal]

Either works

[frigid glen]

alright chef still feels a bit werid to me but I think i havent found a loadout i like yet

[forest rover]

is the radio tower for golden dieback and the other 2 nightmode versions of stage one seekers of the storm maps bugged?

[mellow crystal]

Yes

[marble magnet]

Any tips for getting the kill on false son with aurellionite, I've been looping but I just die on loop

First time I got to false son with aurellionite I didn't realise false son steals her so

Yea any tips?

Also what's the best character to do it

[forest rover]

the wiki says you need the halcyon seed in your inventory, idk if that means aurelionite must kill false son himself :/

[forest rover]

seeker is good

her sojourn with razerwire and some rose bucklers can help you negate almost all the potential damage false son deals

i think somethings can nock you out of the sky tho but i dont remember

but you do need some afterburners with this and some cooldown reduction items

alien head (red), and purity (blue)

to keep using the sojourn, and use the "unseen hand" to get hp back paired with backup magazine

[frigid glen]

when is a good time to stop stacking tougher times?

[forest rover]

50-100 i suppose but if you have 57 leaf clovers then like 65 is good

65 because if you decide you want safer spaces

the purple void counter part*

it caps at 65

[frigid glen]

how many is good for seeker sojurn since i aint looping but i can get at least 10

[forest rover]

if you plan on using sojurn to just fly then 20 at least?

[frigid glen]

alrighty

btw should i keep medkit with sojun?

[forest rover]

if using sojourn for the razorwire build then none since it wont work unless she takes the damage

[frigid glen]

nah i dont got razor

[forest rover]

the thing with sojourn is

it will reduce your total healing from 100% to 0% over time

so healing sources isnt good for it

instead use rose buckler

since in sojourn you are considered sprinting , and rose buckler gives you armor while you sprint, the armor will negate alot of the damage you recieve

like 10 rose buckler will work jsut fine

[frigid glen]

oh okay

thanks

[forest rover]

no worries 👍

[hazy condor]

Should I use loaders thunder gauntlet or keep using charged gauntlet?

[forest rover]

both are good but i think charged gauntlet is better than thunder, it just has more versatility

[marble magnet]

Oki

[round crane]

any 1 simulacrum easy mode arti of command swarm and sacrifice ( i dont have swarm so u need to have it )

[lavish jacinth]

Clover doesn't affect tougher times

[lavish jacinth]

~7 stacks is a good stopping point for normal runs, that gives you a 50% block chance and the returns past that point are pretty small, they do add up but it's usually better to invest in other things

[round crane]

WHY DID I SAY THAT HERE

[round crane]

@steady stone i got an question on how the runic lens works

ive read the wiki and still dont get it

it says on hit its 3% chance to call down a meteor that deals 2000% dmg and every 100% attack dmg dealt increases the activation chance by 3% ( +3% per stack ) and damage by 150% ( +50% per stack )

does it mean that if the meteor hits it gives +60% activation chance and +3000% dmg
or
does it mean that if u for example have 5 delicate watches that give +100% dmg total it gives +3% activation chance and +150% damage?

[hoary sedge]

neither

basically the stronger the total damage of the attack, the higher chance and damage it has for the meteor

watches won't contribute bc they change your base damage

[daring cloak]

Im fairly sure they dont

[hoary sedge]

but essentially a commando shot will have a lower chance to proc lens and the meteor will do less damage than if you activate it with a railgunner m2

[lavish jacinth]

Watches don't affect base damage yeah

[hoary sedge]

oh nvm then

[lavish jacinth]

And iirc runic doesn't care about multipliers anyway, it specifies attack damage

Lemme check that rq though

I think it's similar to a band proc where takes the damage of an attack before multipliers and compares it to your base damage

[hoary sedge]

that seems right? looks the like overspill only cares about total damage compared to base damage assuming that part is still accurate

[lavish jacinth]

yeah it does

[round crane]

wdym

[hoary sedge]

but yeah still basically it's just the stronger the initial attack is, the better chance you have to summon a stronger meteor

[round crane]

oh

so like basic dmg % u get at the start

so like an railgunner m2 will give 30% more activation chance

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[hoary sedge]

30% total I think but yes

and the meteor it summons will do 3500% base damage

also the increased activation chance does work with proc coefficients, so railgunner supercharge is guaranteed to activate runic lens

[round crane]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Items i just read what all the items do that i dont know

[lavish jacinth]

more than that actually, because it's 2000% base + 150% total

so from a railgunner shot with a perfect reload it would be 4250% overall

[round crane]

the eqs that drop from elites are rly cool

[hoary sedge]

right yeah, I just meant the base shot

[hoary sedge]

too bad most of them suck...

[round crane]

especially the celestine elite is rly cool

[lavish jacinth]

it's actually the worst one

it makes your allies invisible, not you

which means you take all the aggro, and all you get is a slow on hit

[round crane]

thats why u put it in a eq drone

[lavish jacinth]

it can be alright if you give it to an equipment drone though yeah

[round crane]

its rly boring

any 1 wanna play

also @lavish jacinth how do i make my role in chat appear as rex?

[lavish jacinth]

You'd have to remove some of the other roles, idk how discord decides which one to show as the main one

[round crane]

ill remove all roles except rex

[daring cloak]

Its just based on the assigned order

Commando will always display above huntress because the role's above huntress'

And rorr survivors will always display over ror2 survivors because all those roles are above the ror2 roles

[round crane]

hm

so i just dont get the multi role ok

see

why is the only dead lfg channel the pc?

[round crane]

idgaf bro as long as there is someone to play with im good

[daring cloak]

PLEASE PLEASE I BEG

FREE ME OF THE CRASHES

[round crane]

wat to play with me?

[round crane]

ah dang it close enough

[daring cloak]

I dont have it on pc

[round crane]

bruh

[daring cloak]

Oh damn they fixed the terrain clipping

[round crane]

portals in terrain u mean?

[daring cloak]

No sometimes enemies just fall through the ground or walls

Especially when taking hih knockback

[round crane]

hm

still no someone to play with update

[daring cloak]

FUCK YES DISTURBED IMPACTS LOG IS FREE

I CAN FINALLY COMPLETE MY LOGBOOK

Insane 😭

Im not seeing any mention of switch crashes

[round crane]

😦

[daring cloak]

Pleassssse

[round crane]

lmfao only enviroment i got'

[daring cloak]

Istg if I see another crash screen I will cry

[round crane]

ekhem

[daring cloak]

You'll get there eventually

Like I have almost 800 hours and still need 2 sots environment logs

[lavish jacinth]

They did say that they generally fixed a lot of crashes with the memory optimization

[daring cloak]

I really really hope so

[round crane]

i looped 1 time with multi had the most op run ever or some shit i stunlocked mythrix and then he just launched like 20 homing rockets how was i supposed to react

[daring cloak]

Oh wait im blind it says it right there at the top

[lone topaz]

is there any other objective to reach in Sanctuary besides Wave 50 ? Can I quit to menu?

[round crane]

im coming back to there with fucking railgunner 20 crowbar and 10 voidsent flames and well see who gets oneshot

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, if you've gotten the unlock there's nothing else to do

[round crane]

is that a good idea @daring cloak and @lavish jacinth

also the meteor spawning thing would be cool

[lavish jacinth]

I mean you probably want more than just that, it'd be strong first hit but probably not a oneshot, especially with post-loop mithrix

[round crane]

then i guess more

[lavish jacinth]

Voidsent also doesn't usually benefit from crowbar fyi

[round crane]

on first shot tho

[lavish jacinth]

It's a separate hit with a slight delay

[round crane]

ok then

voidsent flame only cause its more dmg per stack

[lavish jacinth]

By the time the explosion hits, the enemy is already under 90% so no crowbar bonus

[round crane]

railgunner is honestly prob a great survivor to do mythrix

just an insane R

[ornate tangle]

xbox pc crossplay? any news on that

[lavish jacinth]

What you really want is total damage stuff, voidsent us base damage

[lavish jacinth]

Nope, don't hold your breath for it

[ornate tangle]

☹️

[sullen ether]

would you guys recommend getting sots?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, it's pretty good now

[round crane]

i just want to beat the fuck out of him with one shot so he goes into the spawning phase kill all tham and do the same again then hit with with the R again

[ornate tangle]

yeah its fun

[real gate]

What enemy is this that I’m missing?

[round crane]

Mr. evil guy

[lavish jacinth]

Alloy worship unit

[real gate]

Thank you

[round crane]

@lavish jacinth I GOT AN IDEA

i get a fuck ton of shaped glass

and then

i make that fool fuck himself up thats an evil fucking plan

just like one R

[fierce bluff]

Does the lobbies in the multiplayer section differ if you have mods on/off?

[lavish jacinth]

I forget if it affects lobby visibility, but you can't join lobbies if you have mods, unless the host is also running the same ones

You'll also see fewer lobbies if you have crossplay enabled, it's best to keep it turned off

[round crane]

@lavish jacinth question of the day do you want to play that rhymed well

[fierce bluff]

Tysm for telling, I was thinking that something's off with the lobby count.

[strong sluice]

Debating on getting this game. I heard some good things and bad things about it. I just like co-op shooter style games like DRG, Helldivers, Darktide etc so idk if this would be any good for me. Wanna hear honest thoughts from y'all.

[mellow crystal]

It would be great yeah I'd say

[strong sluice]

ah ok. Also apparently this game has less extreme buffs and more passive buffs compared to most roguelikes?

[hoary sedge]

the surface genre is similar to those games but don't necessarily expect a similar experience. still definitely very good and similar enough that you'll probably still like it

[mellow crystal]

Elaborate on that
Do you mean like, general kit buffs like items and buffs or just buffs as a mechanic?

[strong sluice]

I mean I was told this game focuses on stacking smaller buffs rather than big giant all at once buffs

True?

[hoary sedge]

yeah that's true

but the small buffs stack effectively infinitely and interact and activate each other so you still get insane power levels

[strong sluice]

That’s a fun twist ngl. I’m here for that. I might get it. What does the dlc do though? Cause I see it has dlc. Idk if it’s worth getting.

[mellow crystal]

Yeah that matches
Your main power comes from your chosen character's abilities and the buffs you gain throughout the run are either stat boosts to help you scale or fun gimmicks that pair well with your character

[slim spoke]

theyre good now but i still suggest wait for sales

[hoary sedge]

dlcs just generally add a lot more content, items, stages, enemies, bosses, characters, etc

[strong sluice]

So basically just buy the standard game with no dlc?

[hoary sedge]

probably get base game first to see if you like it and then do dlc after, theyre not essential

[primal vector]

Well. The DLC are good, but just so you can check if you like the game

[marble osprey]

Does anyone know yet if the new steam achievements are given retroactively or are we gonna have to beat false son with every survivor again

[mellow crystal]

They're given on opening the game yea

Afaik they just check for if your save actually has that achievement done

[primal vector]

Thats what they tested the other day with spicy bandit I guess

[strong sluice]

Mk. I mean I play avoid Crew which is basically a space rogue like so I imagine I’ll like this. Three and a half more questions.

1: Is melee combat a thing here?
1.5: is it a viable option for certain classes?
2: how difficult would you say this game gets. Like is it one of those roguelikes you have to sink thousands of hours into just to get an idea of how to play or is it simple yet complex?
3: is flying around the stage like a crackhead going Mach 5 possible? I love mobility

[hoary sedge]

There are a few characters focused on melee combat yeah, they are fun and very viable although being close to enemies is generally more dangerous. and yeah the crackhead mobility is definitely present lol. I'd say it's more of a simple yet complex, once you get the hang of the basics you can consistently win runs fairly quickly but there's a lot of depth to it

[mellow crystal]

1. Yes, though most of the melee survivors are very 'zippy', focused on mobility and moving in and out of melee range a lot
2. It has the standard roguelike learning process but it's definitely easier than others of its genre
3. Yup.

[strong sluice]

So would you say it’s like the Elden Ring to other games in its game type? Like it’s easier but still difficult? Or is Elden Ring too extreme an example?

[mellow crystal]

I have never played elden ring nor do I know anything about it sorry 😭

But like
I'd say it takes anywhere from 4-20 runs to win depending on how fast you learn

[primal vector]

Did you know that in the playtest survey for Nightreign one of the games that they asked about were RoR and RoR2?

[strong sluice]

I’m an ultra casual player so I won’t know what’s going on. I live off the “random bs go” meme

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t lmao

Also do I need any of the dlc to play the zippy melee classes?

Cause that sounds hella fun

… Does this mean I can effectively market garden enemies?

[mellow crystal]

Nop
The basegame melees are actually the zippiest I'd say

Except acrid kinda

[strong sluice]

Is Acrid like a more tanky one?

[nocturne sierra]

No theres loader and mercenary, acrid isn’t as zippy,

[mellow crystal]

Acrid is weird because he has the tools to play completely at range like a coward but also the tools and health to maul enemies at close range

[strong sluice]

That actually sounds like my style. Swap in and out from melee to range while not lacking mobility?

Sign me up

[rich vessel]

i am trying to unlock the merc achviment called the "etherial' i think. i have some question about the prismatic triel. are there only two stages to the trial? and those are the ones i have to complete without dropping from 100% or can i finish it on the first stage?

[nocturne sierra]

Actually I don’t think the dlcs even have a melee character, besides false son who is also like acrid in that way

[mellow crystal]

Yes there are only two stages and yes you have to beat both

[rich vessel]

thanks

[strong sluice]

Is false son just better Acrid or is he about the same

[nocturne sierra]

I like false son better personally

[mellow crystal]

Fs def leans more into the bruiser aspect than the mixing aspect tho

[nocturne sierra]

But yet again he’s dlc

[strong sluice]

False Son seems like what I’d want but I’m not gonna buy the dlc till it goes on sale

[nocturne sierra]

Though we might get another melee in the next dlc, (hopefully miner)

[strong sluice]

Is the base game worth it at full price?

[mellow crystal]

I'd say so yea

[nocturne sierra]

I would say yeah

[strong sluice]

Just the dlcs that were lacking?

[nocturne sierra]

I would say dlc 2 was lacking when it released

[mellow crystal]

They're not really lacking but iirc they're like the same price as the game itself which is a tad bit too high

[strong sluice]

Also are people restricted if I don’t have the dlc? Like can they use what they want still?

[nocturne sierra]

But now after they fixed it, it’s way better

[nocturne sierra]

I mean you just won’t have what’s in teh dlc

[fallen bridge]

i think each dlc is $10 usd less than the game itself?

[mellow crystal]

They can yup
And if one person in the lobby has dlc then everyone has access to it except for achievements and characters

[nocturne sierra]

Yes it’s 15$ usd

[strong sluice]

Like obviously I won’t have the dlc myself. I’m wondering if I’d be holding others back for not having it

[fallen bridge]

nop, you just cannot play dlc survivors

[strong sluice]

Fair enough

[nocturne sierra]

No not really, and plus if you teammates have the dlc in multiplayer you’ll still have access to the DLC maps and items just not by yourself

[round crane]

@mellow crystal plz say that u want to play feat. me

[mellow crystal]

I'll be free in 2-3hrs yea

[strong sluice]

ok one more big question before I decide on my purchase. How is the game in singleplayer? I imagine it's way better in multiplayer with friends or other people but is it still fun on your own? or is it entirely reliant on the multiplayer aspect

[hoary sedge]

It's actually primarily designed for singleplayer

[round crane]

which is when i will be fucking asleep bruh 😭

[hoary sedge]

multiplayer is fun but the games not designed or balanced around it really

[strong sluice]

really? so is the multiplayer BAD? Was it an afterthought? or does the game still have good multiplayer

[round crane]

cause i dont wanna do an short run

[lavish jacinth]

Multiplayer tends to feel like a bunch of singleplayer runs happening at the same time

[hoary sedge]

no the multiplayer is still good, it's just not the focus and a little buggy sometimes

[nocturne sierra]

I would say ya I find it fun, but also depends on which dlc if not both, because I would say survivors of the void takes some time to get used to with the new enemies, but overall I enjoy them and I have never turned the dlcs off

[mellow crystal]

It's still good yea it just has a few more issues than singleplayer

[lavish jacinth]

It's not bad, but it's not a heavily co-op focused game either

[fallen bridge]

multiplayer is very good but some mechanics are a little weird

[nocturne sierra]

The only bad thing about multiplayer is there isn’t cross platform yet

[strong sluice]

ah. that does suck. ... Will I still find a fair amount of people on PC?

[mellow crystal]

The most glaring issue to me is that allies respawn at the start of a stage instead of at the end of one
So if they die on a stage, they just don't get any of the items there and you have to compensate for them

[nocturne sierra]

Theres definitely more people to find on pc

[mellow crystal]

Absolutely it's honestly the most populated part of the community I'd say

[nocturne sierra]

I think

[strong sluice]

ah that's good.

[nocturne sierra]

I play on ps5 and want to play with my pc people but I can’t

[strong sluice]

also how graphically intense is this game? or, taxing, whatever. Like obviously there's the recommended specs but imo sometimes that doesn't give the FULL PICTURE.

[fallen bridge]

pc is also the most versatile platform so you can play modded multiplayer if you ever get bored of vanilla as well

[hoary sedge]

there is technically crossplay between steam and epic games but having it enabled causes a bunch of ridiculous bugs so it effectively doesn't work

[mellow crystal]

Not intensive at all I'd say
If you can run like any other popular 3d game you can probably run ror2

[hoary sedge]

it's pretty well optimized, long runs can sometimes be pretty cpu intensive but it's usually totally fine

[fallen bridge]

not super intensive? if you plan on looping your game will crash eventually but if you turn down the graphics, you can get pretty smooth fps even on an old, low-end laptop

[hoary sedge]

If you can run helldivers 2 or space marine 2 you'll be fine

[strong sluice]

isn't modded risky? Due to Eula stuff?

[nocturne sierra]

O would t say it’s graphically intesne more of how many things have to be rendered at one time, things being enemies in late game

[fallen bridge]

nop

[lavish jacinth]

I used to run it just fine with an i3, 1050ti and like 8gb of ram, ror2 doesn't need much

[mellow crystal]

I don't think gearbox actually cares about the eula, they just added it recently because they're owned by take two

Or at least this branch of gearbox working on ror2

[fallen bridge]

if they didn't want the game to be modded they would have shut it down by now

[strong sluice]

I can run helldivers 2 at like 80 frames on 1440p. But that's mainly cause I capped my fps to 100 for more stability and less drastic drops. In taxing scenarios it drops to 80 at most and that was on super earth with the illuminates.

[fallen bridge]

yah if you can get good fps on hd2 you're perfectly fine to play ror2

[strong sluice]

and space marine 2 runs at like 100+ usually

[mellow crystal]

Heck I wouldn't be surprised if suncles uses mods from time to time actually

[hoary sedge]

ok you'll be fine then

[strong sluice]

I can also play some triple A releases like elden ring with stable frames on medium or high I think. And Sparking Zero on the highest settings and stuff

and sparking zero is capped at 60fps

cause fighting game

5070 Ti and 9700X build. Very happy with it

so I think I'm fine

[primal vector]

This game is 6 years old

And it was pretty optimized already at the time

[fresh umbra]

With this in mind, would visions of heresy be less useful on mobile turrets than stationary turrets?

[hoary sedge]

yes and no? it doesn't increase the lock on range but it is a bigger boost to procs and damage for mobile turrets

[full apex]

I dont think it's really an issue, their range is still pretty good and they'll still walk to stuff

[lavish jacinth]

It's actually better on mobile turrets, it has a higher proc coeff than the laser, and the delayed damage is less of an issue because they can actually move

[nocturne sierra]

For eclipse should I be using nano bomb or ice spear, because on one hand it’s damage, on teh other freeze

[fallen bridge]

both are solid, nanobomb has better aoe but ice spear makes mithrix insanely easy

[nocturne sierra]

Idk man I’m just tryna figure things out because ngl I hate doing eclipse with artificer

Does freeze stop mythrix from doing his spinny wheel and or does it cancel it

[fallen bridge]

i think it completely stops it?

though sometimes he does seem to try it again after being frozen but your other ice ability is usually off cd by then

[solid nova]

anyone encountered this bug yet? my friend got this bug but i havent seen anyone here describe anything like it

[cunning jay]

does anyone know a mod that allows you to blacklist certain stages? so that I don't have to play them anymore?

[lavish jacinth]

If there is, #ror2-modding would know

[solid nova]

does anyone have anything on this? i rlly wanna help my friend but i genuinely have no idea what he’s experiencing

[spiral raven]

i blame mods

[solid nova]

i was boutta say

like ive never even heard of a bug like that in ror2

[solid nova]

also i tried contacting my friend about whether or not he was running mods and he hasnt responded

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah that's a new one

[glacial knoll]

A stage not starting properly could cause that type of bug

I blame mods

[round crane]

@mellow crystal we can play the next day

[solid nova]

hearing this from wolfo and suncles has me thinking hes playing modded

[glacial knoll]

If it is a base game issue that'd be pretty bad

[mellow crystal]

Pear...
Alr!!!

[round crane]

Finally someone to play

[nocturne sierra]

Tbh it might just be bad luck, I constantly get aphelian sanctuary and sulfur pools, so I kinda just force myself out of them a lot

[solid nova]

we found our answer

[spiral raven]

https://tenor.com/view/segundo-sol-novela-remy-vladimir-brichta-chocado-gif-12304506

[solid nova]

okay i was a little worried that we ended up getting one of the worst bugs in the games history but that seemed too insane to be not from mods

[mellow crystal]

This actually has me wondering if there could be a glitch bad enough to warrant an immediate emergency patch

[lavish jacinth]

I mean yeah, probably

[nocturne sierra]

No I think I’m just unlucky as all hell playing this game

[lavish jacinth]

New bug that just deletes system32

[nocturne sierra]

lol

[glacial knoll]

Yeah stages failed to start properly or end properly sounds like a rushed fix is needed

[solid nova]

no like the stages literally wouldnt increment properly and hed get like abandoned aqueduct as his stage 5 instead of helminth or meadow

[mellow crystal]

Scrapping the new AC item deletes system32 because someone decided to name its file system32 and for some reason they made it so items are stored as files when you pick them up

[nocturne sierra]

Oh, that sounds terrible, like worse than getting two brainstalks same stage

[solid nova]

yeah

pretty bad bug, thankfully its with mods

[nocturne sierra]

Now you gotta figure out which mod it is

[runic stump]

yo my friend sucks at the game whats the most braindead survivor so i can carry

[nocturne sierra]

Probably loader

[runic stump]

🤑

[lavish jacinth]

Or false son or seeker

[nocturne sierra]

Seeker is a good one too, with teh revive every stage

[lavish jacinth]

Or Acrid and let poison do everything

[nocturne sierra]

How come artificer comes down in a drop pod even though we find her on petrichor V, because characters like that come down differently, like voidfiend, false son, acrid, and mulT,

[brisk wing]

Is there a chance for a halcycon shrine to spawn a gold portal?

Instead of the usual green

[nocturne sierra]

It’s not a chance, it’s if you get the shrine on stage 3,4,5

[brisk wing]

Huuuuh?

[nocturne sierra]

If you get the shrine on a stage 3, 4, or 5, it will spawn a gold portal becuase it has no place to take you on the path of the colossus

[brisk wing]

Ah okay

[nocturne sierra]

I mean you could, but uhh that’s gonna be very difficult

[lavish jacinth]

Probably not considering you'd have no way of figuring out your location, or knowing where enemies are, or what items you have

[marble osprey]

Is it on stage 3 as well? Wouldn't that just take you to false son?

[nocturne sierra]

I’m pretty sure you have to go through treetop colony first or use the portal in the bazaar, but tbh I’m not really sure

[marble osprey]

Fair enough
I haven't personally done it so idk but like if a green portal can spawn on treeborn colony I'd assume it could also appear in other stage 3s
Maybe I'll test it out later

[marble osprey]

I mean the teleporter makes a sound and so do a lot of enemies so I don't think it'd be totally impossible

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, but your spawn location and the teleporter spawn are both random, so you'd have no way of normalizing your location, so at best you'd just blindly wander around and hope you don't get stuck in a corner or something

[marble osprey]

Could play loader to avoid fall damage from randomly falling off ledges and grapple to figure out if there's a wall in front of you tho

[lavish jacinth]

I guess it's theoretically possible in the same way that a bunch of monkeys on typewriters could eventually recreate Shakespeare

[lavish jacinth]

Even then, you wouldn't know which wall it is because you wouldn't know where YOU are, or if it even is a wall and not an enemy or the ground or something

[marble osprey]

Well my first try ended up with me somehow clipping into a rock and getting stuck lmao

I think I'd need a lot more practice listening to the music bc the teleporter noise is very subtle
It's a lot more audible in the bits where the music is quieter tho and during those times I can hear it from about halfway across the stage from where the teleporter is
I still haven't picked up any items tho, maybe I should play on sacrifice for this

[nocturne sierra]

It would probably be more possible if you had someone or a chat to tell you what’s happening

[marble osprey]

Hmm
Well after 27 minutes I was able to activate the teleporter and clear it successfully
However after you do that the music stops and the music is the only way to figure out where the teleporter button is so I'm stumped there
You'd have to figure out where it is while the teleporter is still going

Which should be possible since it's super easy to tell when you've left the teleporter radius
Might need to play someone other than Loader tho bc her charged punch makes it really keep track of where you are
Maybe engineer to let the turrets do most of the damage?

[left ore]

what are the requirements to regain one-shot protection? would it be viable to use power mode mul-t on monsoon against mithrix with both power saws + a bunch of healing?

[daring cloak]

Osp only requires you to be above 90% hp

No hit in the game (aside from fall damage) can deal over 90% of your health

So if you were at 100% youd go to 10% and jf you were at 91% youd go to 1%

[left ore]

would i be able to do enough dps with double power saws to regain my healing equipment during the final item stealing phase?

[daring cloak]

Indicated by the stripes on the left end of your healthbar

[daring cloak]

You never lose your equipment

[left ore]

...good point

-# wait i forgot equipment is an actual thing in this game i meant items 😭

[daring cloak]

Vut also osp is the most unreliable mechanic in the game

I would not recommend trying to build or plan around it

[unreal hull]

Do you have to redo trial of devotion and delusion for the Steam achievements, even if you've already done it before?

[daring cloak]

No

Loading into the game should unlock them

[strong sluice]

So I'm stuck in that purple area or whatever. I can't find the alter. something about it aligning with the moon in the chat but? Like, the altar is nowhere. I am like, stuck.

[lavish jacinth]

look for blue particles in the air and follow them, you can make them easier to spot by turning on teleporter particle scaling in settings

under that umbrella settings thing

be sure to check the little bridge under the map too, sometimes it spawns down there. There should be some big holes in the ground where you can jump down to it if it's there
(it won't be on the bigger island with the artifact portal on it though, just the small bridge leading to it)

[strong sluice]

ah ok

[strong sluice]

So how do I release the ship now? lol

[lavish jacinth]

kill the final boss

just look for blue beacons in the sky, follow em and do the thing, they're pretty self-explanatory

or if you have enough mobility you can just climb straight up to the arena

[strong sluice]

I did it. I beat the game for the first time lmao

[sick saddle]

do yall have any tips for unlocking false son's alt utility

[lavish jacinth]

it's kinda like the other "kill mithrix with X" challenges, avoid proc items or anything else that could steal the kill, but in this case you also have to be really careful not to accidentally kill him before Auri does.

once his health gets low, try to only apply lunar ruin right before Auri is about to attack. can also boost Auri's DPS a little further without needing to damage Mithrix, I recommend putting it on an equipment drone

[sick saddle]

gotcha...okay. yeah i was probably just too generally proc powerful then

ty

[hoary sedge]

yeah the way I did it was using command to do a full on-kill build and used on the other phases to minimize the actual spike damage

[frigid glen]

credit card or recycler?

[pulsar creek]

I usually go recycler

[livid wedge]

Recycler for me

[fallen bridge]

recycler is slightly better but the 2 are very close ... the ability to reroll bad reds into potentially very beneficial ones is probably the only reason recycler is better. plus the existence of salestar makes reds a bit more common

[pulsar creek]

Plus every equipment u get from then on will have 2 chances to be a credit card that u can use on that stage 🙂

And rerolling for guns/ rerolling yellows

[marble osprey]

Credit card because while recycler is definitely stronger, I don't really enjoy using it

[hoary sedge]

I feel like card meaningfully improves my runs more often but I may be biased bc I have shit recycler luck

it has an uncanny habit of turning my bad greens into somehow even worse greens

[ebon forge]

Any tips on doing seeker scorched earth challenge

[lavish jacinth]

stack a bunch of different multipliers (crowbar, crit, watch, etc), use to sojourn as long as possible, and hit as many enemies as you can

kin+swarms with a cheap enemy like wisps will help, and it'll guarantee a horde of many as a boss so you can use against them

[ebon forge]

Got it thanks 👍
Does the actually work? I thought the ability would end quick cause it’s health dmg

[lavish jacinth]

you'd think so, but it only scales off of your non-shield hp, so with transc you only take 1 damage per tick

unless they changed that, it wasn't in the patch notes but I haven't checked

[clear whale]

Is anyone having this issue where some VFX / SFX just doesnt load

[ebon forge]

I think that was in the patch notes today

[ebon forge]

Ok I’ll test it after I do my seeker skin challenge run

[clear whale]

I think its just because of my mods

[lavish jacinth]

yeah probably

mods will likely be broken for a little while because of the update

[stable inlet]

How many artifacts are there?

[lavish jacinth]

19

although one of them (rebirth) is DLC2-exclusive and not unlocked with a code like the others

[obtuse holly]

any really specific items that are good on seeker I haven't bean having any trouble im just curios

[honest badger]

transcendence

[lavish jacinth]

if you wanna abuse the hell of sojourn, yeah. Or if you wanna do that but aren't into lunars

but other than that I don't think there's anything specifically super good on her, she kinda works with everything

[dim summit]

This with razorwire and planula for even more funny sojourn gameplay

[jade vortex]

What’s best items and charters for getting Rex

And what’s best items for mercanry

[clear whale]

with

[jade vortex]

No drizzle

[clear whale]

avoid getting below 50% hp

[jade vortex]

I refuse

[dim summit]

False son or seeker and maybe just speedrun to stage 4

[crimson prairie]

Ayo anyone here good with mods, I need help with something.

[livid wedge]

If you're looking for mod support, should probably check #ror2-modding assuming someone here doesn't answer

[forest rover]

Ah, my mistake sry

[crimson prairie]

cant. got banned from there cause I was hating on the ppl that make porn mods for the game.

[livid wedge]

What

[crimson prairie]

yeah.

[livid wedge]

I don't think you can be banned from channels

Nor that this server would have porn mod stuff

[crimson prairie]

Oh wait mb I mean the actual server. like the discord one.

[livid wedge]

Yeah, what I linked is a channel in this server

Specifically about modding

[crimson prairie]

Ye i asked alr, I'm waiting atp.

[hidden cobalt]

is unstable transmitter one shot protection?

[shell mango]

That’s what I use it as

Hasn’t failed me yet

[honest badger]

no

[honest badger]

osp is a specific mechanic that got removed from transmitter ages ago

using it to protect yourself from oneshots is different from it having osp

[shell mango]

i have gotten one shot through potion but not through transmitter

they so i thought it added a osp once per stage

[low cave]

does the self damage from rex's abilities trigger the E8 max health reduction

[quasi topaz]

Yes

[low cave]

bruhh

bruhhhhhhhhyy

bruhhhh

[quasi topaz]

Perma damage is 40% of any damage you take if and only if its more than 2.5% of your max hp

Rex takes like 25% on his abilities

[low cave]

yeah

so you basically have to use his robot m2

[quasi topaz]

The most common one is non self damage for secondary and utility, and self damage special

[low cave]

that's rough though since basically all of rex's DPS without items is his damaging m2

[quasi topaz]

Seed barrage does more than you'd think, especially if you have enemies grouped

[wet bison]

How does rusted keys work

Do

And is backup magazin good at seekers second m2?

[fresh umbra]

If you have at least 1, then 1 small, brown, rusted lockbox will spawn on the next stage. Opening it gives you a red or green item and uses 1 rusted key

[round crane]

@mellow crystal we can play in an hour

[terse hill]

how do you even get rex

[slim spoke]

seeker's balls has a relatively low cap, and you can stack the balls off combat and dont have to worry about despawning
so i think not

[slim spoke]

get out, go to the back of the pod
interact and you get an equipment

[terse hill]

wait what

i never knew you could do that

[slim spoke]

bring it ALL THE WAY to abyssal depth and stick it to the abandoned robot up top and you get it

[terse hill]

alright

thanks

[slim spoke]

btw it explodes and guarantees to kill you and every non boss enemies around you (except when you have tougher times/safer spaces or basically any form of revive or invulnerablility)

ONLY AT HALF HP

[terse hill]

oh at half hp?

[slim spoke]

i forgot to type that in

[terse hill]

i'm afraid that will be difficult

getting to abyssal depths without going below half hp

[slim spoke]

yea
no cradles, no high falls
no shrine of blood

[terse hill]

well actually seeker might be fire for this

because she can revive herself at max tranquility

[slim spoke]

yea but it removes itself when exploded

[terse hill]

oh

[slim spoke]

so 1 shot bb

[terse hill]

then it's pointless

[slim spoke]

not really

having healing at all is already a plus

[thorn shell]

Whats the best build or items that I can stack for Bandit?

[slim spoke]

tritip and atg

[thorn shell]

Ty

[slim spoke]

even better bcuz you can proc multiple times per mouse click

[nocturne sierra]

That is very true, but also does can unstable Tesla coil start a proc chain, I can’t really tell because it screenwipes to fast

Mb

[slim spoke]

np tho what are the chances that you get tesla early on anyway

[nocturne sierra]

Command

[slim spoke]

get out.

[nocturne sierra]

I’m tryna get teh disturbed impact log

[slim spoke]

gl

[nocturne sierra]

And listen I’ve gotten like 4 reds on stage one on eclipse before so it’s definitely possible

[thorn shell]

What about for railgunner?

[nocturne sierra]

Railgunner is good with crit items, but also crowbars

Also speed so you don’t die

[slim spoke]

nah crit is underwhelming for rg (well except laser scope)
also we should tell him to stack syringes, easier perfect reload yk

[nocturne sierra]

True, which is where predatory instinct can come in as a crit item

[slim spoke]

fr

tho mocha is still better smh

[nocturne sierra]

True

Well I got another red item except out of a regular chest on stage two so there you go, early red item

[slim spoke]

bwaaa

[nocturne sierra]

Why can’t this stuff happen to me on eclipse

[fleet lily]

Yo, so I've got a question (before I answer it myself, I want to ask since maybe someone knows the answer already). So yesterday a hotfix update went online with the main message that they made improved "memory management" and it's related issues. While playing simulacrum, me and my broskis often get crashed out at wave ~220 (our max without heavy crash out was 253). Is going to 300 now possible? Since I am aware that those crash outs were mainly because of memory issues (huge fps drops after big waves, staying low even after everything was cleared, on lowest possible settings)

[nocturne sierra]

Tbh how intense is simulacrum compared to late game?

[thorn shell]

what is the item that makes me leap with bullets?

[nocturne sierra]

With bullets?

[thorn shell]

Or is it only a railgunner thing

[nocturne sierra]

The headstopmers give you lower gravity

[daring cloak]

You mean how railgunners primary has self knockback?

[nocturne sierra]

If railgunner has enough attack speed they can just fly

[thorn shell]

Ohhh nvm then

Ty

[clear whale]

Enemies can scale endlessly

Aka get hit once and you are toast

[terse hill]

guys what artifacts should i unlock next, i have artifact of command, chaos, kin and swarms

[nocturne sierra]

Devotion

[terse hill]

isn't that also the case for normal mode because of the difficulty meter?

[terse hill]

alright thanks

[quasi topaz]

Do what I did. Do one run and try to get as many artifacts as possible

[terse hill]

well that makes cents

[quasi topaz]

After the first few artifacts you'll have so many items you can just blitz the teleporters and get to the next artifact

[lavish jacinth]

enemies in normal mode cap at level 99, the game keeps spawning harder enemies in larger numbers but their stats don't get any higher

[terse hill]

oh

[lavish jacinth]

except special bosses like mithrix who have unlimited scaling

[shadow merlin]

My friends and I really enjoy playing Risk of Rain 2, but we've been experiencing a lot of lag and delays whenever we try to play multiplayer together. The gameplay is smooth in single-player, but as soon as we try multiplayer the performance drops significantly. I was wondering how are you all able to play multiplayer without issues like this? Are there any tips, settings, or workarounds that help reduce the lag or delay when playing with friends? We’d really appreciate any advice or solutions. Thanks in advance!

[slim spoke]

tbh it really just depends on whoever hosts the game

[lavish jacinth]

if you're on steam it'll probably help if you both have crossplay turned off

but unfortunately because ror2 is peer2peer, if you live pretty far away from each other, there's gonna be a lot of lag

[slim spoke]

yea ror2 multiplayer is cringe and wierd

[errant stone]

i'd like to give the enemy team some specific items for a challenge run, but i'm not entirely sure how to do that. team_give_item doesn't seem to recognize numeric item ids like the give_item command. is it possible with commands or do i need to look for a mod that does this?

[shadow merlin]

yah i think its right, there is twice we played it with no lags or delays to it

Would using a VPN (like Radmin VPN) help reduce the lag in Risk of Rain 2 multiplayer? As I now know it’s a peer2peer game, but I was just wondering if routing through a VPN could make any difference or would it just add more delay?

[slim spoke]

dont use vpn

that would 99% make things worse

[shadow merlin]

😬

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah nah, a VPN would definitely not help

[lavish jacinth]

Does it not work if you just use the name of the item? I assume you're using debugtoolkit

[errant stone]

hm i'll try that, i usually just use the autocomplete to numeric ID

[shadow merlin]

Got it, thank so much! I figured it might not help but just wanted to check in case anyone had a different experience. Appreciate the info guys. (～￣▽￣)～

[errant stone]

ok the command didn't error this time using the name. now is there a way to query team items to make sure it actually worked?

nevermind yea it worked, thank you~!

[stuck sorrel]

What exactly is mults best loadout?

[clear whale]

Normal runs caps at lvl 99

In simulacrum each waves equal a level and it doesnt cap

[lavish jacinth]

he doesn't really have an objectively best one, but rebar+rebar retool, nail+nail PM and saw+nail PM are some standouts

he also doesn't really have any bad loadouts either, except for maybe nail+rebar PM or nail+scrap PM (the order of your primaries does matter)

[clear whale]

Aka you get hyperbuffed damage sponges that can wipe you out with a single hit

[lavish jacinth]

PM has a quirk where the accuracy of the first primary affects the second one, so having nailgun in the first slot makes the second slot less accurate unless it's another nailgun

[cursive yew]

im struggling to do merc ethereal ._.

is this prism trial just hard or am i awful 😭 i get sniped out of nowhere during tp event

[lavish jacinth]

nah that's normal, it's the hardest unlock in the game by far

[cursive yew]

im also just doing trash dps so 300 things spawn by the time im done

[lavish jacinth]

cabbage's guides in #prismatic-trials might help

but sometimes it's better to just wait for an easier seed

[cursive yew]

i watched their guide but they were just cracked at dodging 😭

they picked up 2 items and rushed tp event and just dodged everything

[lavish jacinth]

anything with glass is usually doable, command helps, and sometimes you can get an easy kin seed

[cursive yew]

which is NOT how its going for me

[lavish jacinth]

you do just kinda have to git gud to some extent, yeah

[stuck sorrel]

gotcha tyvm! will probs run rebar rebar retool until I unlock powermode, wasnt sure if it was worth unlocking due to its slowing effects

[lavish jacinth]

powermode is very worth it

the slowing isn't even really a problem, you can still jump during it and cancel it at any time, and the cooldown is short. Plus you get 100 armor while it's active

[thorn shell]

Best lunar bud for seeker?

[lavish jacinth]

[stuck sorrel]

ohhh ok that makes a lotta sense

[thorn shell]

I got kicked out of bazaar's place after hitting him too much 💔

[thorn shell]

Best lunar bud for false son?

[tender temple]

It's never worth it cause it's BOOORING!

Why play mult if you're not running his only gimmick(retool)

[quasi crystal]

Any tips on getting gud, My highest simulcrum wave was like 30 something and I lose 90% of the time playing on rainstorm

[quasi crystal]

I generally don't use lunar items because I don't like the debuffs but maybe they are good if you want a specific build like glass cannon or something.

[nocturne sierra]

Stone flux Pauldron

You have to balance it though

[lavish jacinth]

for normal runs a big thing is to make sure you're looting as much as you can and not rushing to the teleporter, ideally get at least one item per minute but it's ok to spend time using printers and scrappers or whatever.

for simulacrum specifically, what matters most is being able to dodge and manage crowds. Never stop moving and ideally circlestrafe around groups of enemies, prioritize the most dangerous enemies first. Most enemies have terrible aim and won't hit you as long as you're moving even a little bit, just don't run directly towards or away from them- even jumping in place is better than nothing.
Usually I prioritize targets based on 1. how likely is it that they'll hit me and 2. if they hit me, how much damage will it deal

(and obviously the movement stuff applies to normal runs too)

[quasi crystal]

oh ok that makes sense

btw, does the difficulty scale with multiplayer? I've wondered for awhile

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's roughly +50% more difficulty per player, but you also get about 50% more loot

[quasi crystal]

ohhh cool

should I use riskofrain2.wiki.gg over the fandom one? I've heard fandom is awful and we all need to stop using it

[thorn shell]

Yeah I don't usually use lunar items cus of the debuffs

I use void items mostly

[round crane]

@sudden belfry wtf

where is my 120+ wave on rex?

[quasi crystal]

I hope you didnt do it modded

[round crane]

@lavish jacinth question mark

[quasi crystal]

sometimes that will mess it up

[round crane]

well i want it back

[quasi crystal]

wait 120??😭

[round crane]

yes

it was rly great

[quasi crystal]

geez holy welp uhm time to go to the steam discussion page for a bug report

[round crane]

but i wonder why tf is like almost 0.075 of cooldown for safer spaces not enough

i got hit once i got to 300 hp

didint get hit for like 2 secs

then i get hit by a fucking scorch worm and die

180+ safer spaces

[quasi crystal]

I am too ignorant to know what you are talking about

[round crane]

its like if a totem of undying in minecraft didint work

[quasi crystal]

unfortunate.

[sudden belfry]

i have no clue because i have it

[round crane]

duh

the best character in the game + my pr for waves and it just doesnt work

it aint even on mods

[lavish jacinth]

at 65 stacks it caps at a 1 frame cooldown, all it takes is for an enemy to hit you twice on the same frame, which is more common than you'd think

like, you're basically invincible as long as you're at least slightly trying to not get hit, but it can happen

[round crane]

oh fuck ur right i had my laptop unplugged and i had 30 fps

[lavish jacinth]

your ingame framerate shouldn't actually matter

[round crane]

also the thing could be that the enemies had the bands and i had low fps

like the ice one

[lavish jacinth]

something something delta time, ingame tickrate is always the same regardless of rendered framerate

[lavish jacinth]

yeah that could probably do it, scorch worms are also have a built-in effect similar to mushrums where their projectiles create a damaging aura when they land

[round crane]

yea

still was fun tho

[woven reef]

can i get beads of fealty from the bazaar between time?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, why wouldn't you

[woven reef]

idk they are kind of special

[hot imp]

do void reavers count as void touched elites for sonorous whispers to proc

[lavish jacinth]

no

[arctic meteor]

any way to make an equiptment drone with a recycler come closer to an item? tryna make him reroll something and he rlly doesnt wann a

[lavish jacinth]

you'll have to lure an enemy over to the item

equipment drones treat anything you give them as a weapon, they won't use it unless they think they can attack something

[arctic meteor]

ahh okay thanks!

[chrome mist]

how much does having SOTS enabled affect the rates of stuff from SOTV spawning in stages

[honest igloo]

Am I supposed to die in half a second to lunar chimera death pool? Playing right now with a friend. Didn't have any vulnerability items. Had three armour plates and a lot of movement speed. Died almost instantly

[lavish jacinth]

chimeras just do a lot of damage, especially if they were an elite

[hoary sedge]

oh you mean the fire pools? yeah they do a crazy amount of damage

don't try to tank it unless you have a LOT of healing

[dusky raven]

Just don’t try to tank it

[proven dragon]

does the recycler always roll the item from the same rarity pool the original item was? and does it work on void and lunar items?

[hot imp]

yes and yes

maybe not voids but defenitely lunars

[boreal reef]

chanel latinoamericano?

[lethal ruin]

what're the best lunar items for bandit

[marble osprey]

Does on voids as well, and also rerolls those within their rarity, so the voids based on white items will only reroll to other white item voids

[worldly olive]

Yep, it works for everything barring special items

Such as artifact keys, halcyon seeds, and I think pearls aswell?

[lavish jacinth]

iirc the reroll pool is the same as what you'd see if you were using artifact of command

so yeah, unique items like halcyon seed can't be rerolled because they're in their own pool

[hoary sedge]

pretty much the same as on anyone else, so gesture, crown, solitude, tonic. if you take desperado hes also a pretty good purity user

[fresh umbra]

real

[jade vortex]

Why does alien head exist?

It does nothing noticeable every time I play

Just wondering what is it good for

[lavish jacinth]

it's kinda mid

like, it does what it says, it reduces cooldowns by 25%

but most cooldowns are so short that 25% doesn't make a ton of difference

it's not the worst but other reds outclass it pretty easily

[livid wedge]

I like it on engineer

Anyone I like cd reduction on but don't want to put myself in harms way to grab bandolier packs

[stuck sorrel]

Does the number of enemies spawned depend on number of players in multiplayer or is there some kind of enemy health/dmg scaling?

[quasi topaz]

Number of players increases scaling of monsters

[stuck sorrel]

Gotcha thanks

[pallid mantle]

i beat mythrix with helicon seed but didnt get the unlock for false son is there a way to get the achievement without having to get all the way to mythrix again

[mellow crystal]

You're supposed to beat false son with the halcyon seed, not mithrix

[pallid mantle]

in the guide videos ive seen for unlocking the skill they kill mythrix

[mellow crystal]

Oh you mean the Family Bonding achievement?

[pallid mantle]

yeah

[mellow crystal]

Mithrix needs to have at least one stack of Lunar Ruin (the debuff from your secondary) on him when aurelionite kills him

Lunar Ruin lasts 5 seconds so it might have worn off before he died

Or you killed him instead of aurelionite killing him

[pallid mantle]

alr ty

[weary cloud]

What does stacking fuel cells with crowdfunder do?

[pulsar creek]

nothing

[shell mango]

If you’re playing multiplayer and 1 person picks up an enemy logbook does everyone get it or just the person that picked it up?

[livid wedge]

Everyone

[calm island]

Are halycon shrines guaranteed if ur on the path of the colossus

[slim spoke]

no, but rather green portals

[calm island]

Yeah, thought so just asking cuz my friend just got seekers and i wasnt 100% sure but ty

[steady swallow]

is engis stationary turrets definitively better than mobile turrets?

[slim spoke]

same dps
laser has wonky pathfinding ai and lower proc, but yea it depends on preference

[steady swallow]

in what ways would stationary be better than mobile? i only play mobile right now but having turrets that cant move sounds like they can die quickly

[slim spoke]

the thing i talk above is about the mobile turrets yk

[steady swallow]

oh ok mb

[trim lynx]

they nerfed alien head way too harshly from ror1

[livid wedge]

What

It does literally the same thing as it did in 1, same numbers

[glacial knoll]

it was 30% instead of 25%

[livid wedge]

Oh, the log was wrong then

But a nerf from 30% to 25% is hardly what I'd call harsh

[trim lynx]

i misremembered, whoops

[devout heath]

Unsure if this fits here but does anybody know when the seekers of the storm DLC will go on sale next? I've got $20 on steam and the DLC is $22 😭

[primal vector]

Seem to be on sale fairly often

[devout heath]

cool, I'll assume in the upcoming steam sale then ^w^

[clear whale]

Fuck wrong chat

[green rock]

what are these little orange breakable thingies in the bazaar between time

[glacial knoll]

Mini geodes spawn in the bazaaar sometimes idk when, break all 3 of them to open a Green Portal

they can be basically anywhere except the shop

[green rock]

where green portal open

[glacial knoll]

bridge

Just somewhere in the shop

it'll be obvious

[green rock]

ok

[mellow crystal]

They appear on stage 2-4 bazaar (so if you enter from stage 1-3)
Apparently they only appear if you haven't already been on potc but I wanna fact-check that before saying it for sure

[devout heath]

reading through chefs descriptions it says "boost" on all its skills, what does it mean?

It says what the boost does but not how to boost/what is boosting

also the chefs kiss combo thing confuses me

[hoary sedge]

oh huh it probably shouldn't be saying the boost part lol, it's telling you what the enhanced version you get with the alt special does

also chefs kiss is basically just the more abilities you use on one enemy, the stronger the heal it drops. it's not very strong though probably don't worry about that too much

[mellow crystal]

Yeah like dintour said the boost is from alt special

[wet bison]

does that mean that with 20 stacks of medikit and this green pyramid your basicly invinceble?

[nocturne sierra]

Not really becuase green pyramid is once per stage and medkit takes time to heal you

And for anyone who knows what’s the best way to increase my odds of getting a radar scanner

[lavish jacinth]

command+sacrifice+multiplayer

[glacial knoll]

Command increases it, Sacrifice I don't remember if it does but generally recommended

[lavish jacinth]

I think some of the scanners are still bugged though

[nocturne sierra]

Sacrifice makes sense

[glacial knoll]

Treeborn yes

[lavish jacinth]

thought so

[nocturne sierra]

I only need teh one that just got fixed

Tree born used to spawn multiple

[lavish jacinth]

command removes printers and scrappers, so it helps too

[glacial knoll]

Sacrifice makes half as many things spawn but are half the things chests ig

[nocturne sierra]

I was using command but sacrifice will help, I hate using sacrifice though

Should I use swarms

[lavish jacinth]

if you want, it won't affect the radar spawn rate

[glacial knoll]

Irrelevant for stage logs but like it's a slop run

[nocturne sierra]

But will it help getting items from sacrifice

[glacial knoll]

Early on yes

it also just makes the game easier

[gritty hollow]

iirc drop chance is halved with swarms active

for sacrifice items

[lavish jacinth]

it's reduced but not quite halved iirc

[glacial knoll]

Sacrifice does not make radar scanners more common on Golemplains because less than half the interactables are chests

[lavish jacinth]

and there's still a 5% minimum

[nocturne sierra]

I honestly have the worst luck on sacrifice, I could sit there for 10 minutes with one item

[glacial knoll]

But I guess it still might be good to get rid of cloaked chests and stuff like that

because cloaked chests are 3x as common as scanners

You dont want that clogging up the rare category

[nocturne sierra]

I understand I have sacrifice on now

Does proc chance for characters affect drop chance in sacrifice?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[nocturne sierra]

Cool

[lavish jacinth]

it's based on the credit cost of the enemy, nothing changes it except for swarms

[nocturne sierra]

Ok

Tbh swarms feels likes it’s helping a lot

So if bandit has a .5 proc coefficient does that mean I would need 20 tri tip daggers to get a 100% chance?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

the bleed would still last half as long though

20 is kinda overkill though, you could proc it reliably with 10

[nocturne sierra]

Ok, normally I pick up ten but I havnt really learned all the proc numbers and what they affect, the main thing I know is Atg and ukulele= proc chain, but thanks

[lavish jacinth]

coeff mainly affects proc chance and status effect duration

plus a few miscellaneous things like healing from scythe/leeching seed and behemoth's blast radius, but those are less important

you don't really need to memorize all the numbers and effects unless you're a huge nerd like me lol

[nocturne sierra]

lol, ok I’ll probably remember them as I learn them though

Is it possible to get void items with sacrifice

[lavish jacinth]

yeah but they're a little rarer, void cradles can only spawn in void seeds