ror2-game-questions

[wide badger]

I have been watching a couple of guide videos about monsoon difficulty. And I'm getting conflicting information about the time. Does time not matter or should I be spending 3 minute per stage?

[daring cloak]

DEAR GOD NO

Do not go 3 minutes a stage or 5 minutes a stage or whatever minutes a stage

[wide badger]

okay

[daring cloak]

Try to full loot the stage within a reasonable timeframe

Items are more important than time

[halcyon cove]

are there any open lobbies?

[wide badger]

Because I'm trying 5 to 8 minutes per stage, but it's a making a bit hard

[halcyon cove]

or like if you only have a friend you can play multiplayer?

[wide badger]

yeah private lobby

[halcyon cove]

damn

[wide badger]

idk there open lobbies

but you can play with friends in private lobbies

[viral sorrel]

a general rule is that as long as youre getting around one item every minute youll be fine

even then you can still take longer and be fine

[wide badger]

ah okay

thank you

[viral sorrel]

[wide badger]

How do I get more harpoon missiles? because secondary mag is increasing my mines

[daring cloak]

Hardlight afterburners

[solemn wind]

Harpoon is utility not secondary, hardlight

[wide badger]

that red right?

[solemn wind]

Yup

Charges fast enough that it shouldn't be an issue tho

[viral sorrel]

if youre trying to do a strong engi build on like command or smth

[wide badger]

no command run

[viral sorrel]

okok

if its just regular monsoon then

[wide badger]

Yeah as I'm trying learn engie

[viral sorrel]

visions of heresy and shuriken are both very good for your turrets
hardlight/icbm is very good for you, icbm being good for your turrets too if you get atg and whatnot

[wide badger]

I often try to that and as well spare part

[viral sorrel]

if you want the objectively stronger turrets the stationary ones are good

[wide badger]

I learnt

[viral sorrel]

the mobile ones are good but solve a problem that kinda doesnt exist 😭

[wide badger]

also both bands are really nice to nice to have

[viral sorrel]

yes bands are one of the strongest dmg items

[wide badger]

my harpoon active them nice all the time

[viral sorrel]

yes yes

snd shurikens are good for turrets because then they can proc it

also turrets will eat up any proc item
sticky bomb, atg, uke, etc

[wide badger]

I don't really like sticky bomb

[viral sorrel]

wat

ohhhh

[wide badger]

it's proc chance is low

[solemn wind]

It's also a boring item imo

[viral sorrel]

i didnt like it at first either but it does total dmg
do you know how the dmg multipliers across proc chains work

[viral sorrel]

its a white item so its common so stacking its proc chance is easy

[wide badger]

There are item I tend to use for combing are, gasoline, fire band, will of wisp, and ignition tank

[viral sorrel]

fire band seems like aoe in concept but practically its still better single target

gas is good but falls off quick if you dont get an ignition tank

and wisp is just insane when you stack it

[wide badger]

I see

[viral sorrel]

also its only half of atg, and with just two stacks it matches atg so

[wide badger]

true

[viral sorrel]

and lets say you find a printer
you could easily get like 5 and have 25%

and getting full chance on stickybomb gets kinda insane lmao

not very common but

yk

also for engi bleed builds can get insane

and now noxious thorn can turn bleed builds into aoe

and suppose you get shatterspleen and now youre stage wiping

[wide badger]

ah I see

Idk item chain like that

[viral sorrel]

https://youtu.be/vZUgcta_ue8?si=SmeXYzNOeiAqOa5E
this vid explains it pretty in depth

but like in short
the reason why proc chains are so strong is that most proc items do total% dmg
so as they activate off of eachother they multiply eachothers dmg, with the longer the chain the crazier the dmg gets

like proccing atg is one thing, but if an band procs and atg that then procs a stickybomb that stickybomb will be doing insane amounts of damage

[daring cloak]

Bands cant proc

[viral sorrel]

fr ?

[daring cloak]

Except for vand

[viral sorrel]

i couldve sworn they did for ages

rip but the general concept of items activating other items = big damage still remains the same

[wide badger]

ah okay thank you

should I use all 6 of green scape on will of wisp?

[solemn wind]

Are you asking what's perfectly optimal or if that's enough that you're just definitely gonna win?

If it's the first one, I'd need a bit more info. Second, yes

[viral sorrel]

what stage are you on

[wide badger]

stage 4 but I just died to a elder lemurian overloaded

[viral sorrel]

oh rip

overloading elites are rough

[wide badger]

I don't like elder lemurian

[viral sorrel]

yeah they suck lmao

the 5 fireball thing they do isnt that bad but if you get caught in the flamethrower thing its over

[wide badger]

yep

[mellow crystal]

Yeah elder lem fire breath is an insane punish tbh
I've had false son runs where I was practically invincible on top of having like 3000 health and that fire breath would still delete like half my health stage 5

[daring cloak]

But at the same time its also very punishable

I often get close to the elder lem to make it use the attack and then quickly distance myself again to not get hit

[mellow crystal]

True

[daring cloak]

Since it had such a long animation it keeps the elder lem in place for a good amount of time

[eager thicket]

how to play mule, i dont understand he feel so weak even tho i abuse the weapon switch to skip long reload?

[brittle shuttle]

mul-e hit survivor from starstorm

[eager thicket]

i actually made a mistake on his name, mul-t*.

[wide badger]

is crowbar good?

roll of pennies, if the turrent take damage does that give you money?

[peak jacinth]

yes, much better on high burst damage survivors like loader or railgunner but still good

[wide badger]

engie?

[peak jacinth]

no, the turret technically has its own money pool it just can never spend it

[peak jacinth]

decent on engie

[daring cloak]

Equipments are also a factor

[wide badger]

God dam it, there goes my infinite money lol

[daring cloak]

If you have a strong burst equipment like capacitor crowbars are way better universally

[peak jacinth]

yep that’s true too

[wide badger]

is that lighting blot one

[daring cloak]

Yes

[wide badger]

ah okay

it's ashame turrent don't share equipment

[daring cloak]

Would be way too powerful

[wide badger]

maybe

[native vale]

how to get chef skin unlock

[daring cloak]

Beat the game as chef on monsoon

[placid stirrup]

Is there any way to reconnect a friend game in ROR2 if I get disconnected?

[pliant vine]

What is MajorConstruct_Body_Name? It just spawned in my run and i've never seen it before

[daring cloak]

A scrapped enemy that shouldnt appear in runs but sometimes does due to bugs

[pliant vine]

is it rare?

[daring cloak]

Yeah kinda

Only spawns in the bulwarks ambry afaik

[pliant vine]

Yeah it just spawned in my bulwarks

Yeah I can see it's bugged, I have Mask and when it died its just there

[weary cloud]

Does momentum increase loader punch dmg

[hearty shore]

how doi get the seeker explosion achievement

[fresh umbra]

Yes

[quasi topaz]

Crit and a lot of crowbars and rapulsion armor platings

[random escarp]

Is it ok if I go out of the teleporter range and only charge it up after killing the boss? I find the radius to be quite small, and I need to move around a lot to dodge.
Like doing this will take a lot of time compared to always staying in the teleporter range. Is that gonna be detrimental?

[wide badger]

is there any way to take no damage using armour?

[daring cloak]

You can move out of the range but I recommend trying to stay in it as much as you safely can

[quasi topaz]

In eclipse you should be balancing going in and out of the teleporter. It changes depending on the run. Keep in mind that if the teleporter reaches 99% and the boss is still alive, no new enemies will spawn

[random escarp]

I see.
So like if I go out, then I should try to go back in while dodging again

[daring cloak]

Eh kinda

[random escarp]

Oh yeah, someone gave me that tip on Reddit. It helped me defeat Wandering Vagrant a little better

[daring cloak]

You can try using walls as cover for example to stay in the radius more often

[random escarp]

I see

[quasi topaz]

It also depends on which boss you're fighting, for some its more important to break line of sight and dance around their attacks instead of just sitting in the teleporter but for others you can generally stay in the radius

[random escarp]

Ah ok

Thanks for the tips guys

[wide badger]

how does needletick work?

[weary cloud]

So if i fully charge punch itll do more dmg if i get hella momentum?

[fresh umbra]

Yea, easy way to do that is with grappling hook

Or whatever it’s called

[mellow crystal]

10% chance (+10% per stack) to apply the Collapse debuff on hit
Collapse deals 300% base damage per stack after a delay, then deletes all stacks

[wide badger]

is that worse then bleed?

[mellow crystal]

It's better if you can't stack it consistently, but bleed is better if you can stack it consistently

Since bleed stacks refresh duration when a new one is applied, if you keep applying bleed before it runs out, you'll just get constantly-increasing damage

[wide badger]

how many needletick are needed?

[mellow crystal]

Wdym

[wide badger]

To be apply to Collapse a lot

[mellow crystal]

Depends per survivor

Commando can do it a lot with even just 2 stacks because he fires 1.0 proc coeff shots 6 times every second

While loader needs like 8 stacks to be consistent because she basically hits once every 5s if you're only using utility for damage

[fresh umbra]

@analog brook how did that dash at 0:40 go past you

And how did false son not slam to hit you?

Or xorgee ig

[analog brook]

Twas not me it was xorgee though I did do itemless old chef to false son
I believe the dash slid off the pillar to the left

The slam didn't hit because the dash didn't get to the location of xorgee bc of the pillar

[fresh umbra]

So the memo here is just use the pillars to block (or redirect) his dashes?

Aight ty

[mellow crystal]

Yeah that's the strat that's used a lot in itemless if your dodging tools (if any) for slam are down

[random escarp]

How do I get better at looting? Like how do I manage to get more items in the same amount of time?

[dreamy galleon]

Hello, I am trying to beat moonson with void fiend, are there recommended items to help me survive better in the mythrix fight? I dont really care about the void meter being affected

[dreamy galleon]

In my experience, you just get better by playing more and learning the maps and common chest locations. if youre struggling with coins, do a shrine of combat or if youre confident enough you can kill the boss early for the coins

[random escarp]

Ah I see. I just realized I wasn't touching the shrines at all. Thanks for the tip.
Also, aren't the chest locations randomized? Or do some areas have more chances of spawning chests?

[dreamy galleon]

its more like that some areas make it easy to spot chests

[random escarp]

Ah got it. Thanks!

[glad edge]

If i am playing with someone who has never played before, and i am just okay, what should i teach him?

[dreamy galleon]

Core mechanics like shrines and chests, and various playstyles like melee or ranged. theres tons of good videos that explain the basics efficiently too

[amber raft]

mythrix cant deal with verticality so use your trespass a lot

[primal vector]

@hollow relic Was doing a Eclipse guide for each survivor, maybe he has some tips

[eager thicket]

stacking moon drugs is actually not good idea

[lone elm]

is attack speed good on seeker? does it effect anything other than primary?

[dusky raven]

I mean the primary alone seems pretty worth it to me on account of the damage, but it should also affect Palm Blast (assuming it’s not THAT broken)

[steady stone]

Since "untiered" i.e. broken watches, empty bottles, and afflictions are their own item rarity, would they get affected by Order?

would be cool to have a gamble to remove your afflictions

[primal vector]

Nope "This Shrine does not affect hidden items like DrizzlePlayerHelper or items without a given rarity tier like Tonic Afflictions."

[viral sorrel]

how does the infusion exploit work exactly ?

[feral zinc]

Best chef loadout?

[shy whale]

Just use all the alts ngl

I havent player the new patch yet but from what ive seen the new moves seem good

[hoary sedge]

icebox/roll/yes chef is strongest imo but pretty much anything works, all of his abilities are pretty good

[hoary sedge]

if you take an infusion, stack up the health from it, and then scrap it, you get all the health back as soon as you pick up another infusion. so basically as long as you have at least 1 you keep all the benefit of all the stacks you had before, even if you scrapped them

assuming that's the interaction you're talking about anyway

[viral sorrel]

okay yes thank you

[pure estuary]

So does anyone know why or when artificer got captured by newt?

[wispy hinge]

What are the best boss items

[viral sorrel]

shatterspleen
molten/charged perferator

[full apex]

The cap for income is still tied to current stacks, but it can be broken. So if you fill 5 of them to 500 hp and scrap them all, getting 1 will still give you 500 hp back but you won't get any more on kill till you get 6 or more

Also the orb spawn if ur under the cap so you can be at 499 for example and kill a bunch of far away enemies, and until the first orb reaches you to go to 500, they'll keep spawning. So you could get quite a bit more hp over 500 that way

[wispy hinge]

Whats a good amount of tougher times to get

[tawdry hearth]

Does guillotine cap?

[livid wedge]

It has hyperbolic stacking

[balmy sorrel]

No hard cap but additionl stacks give diminishing returns

[livid wedge]

Diminishing

[wispy hinge]

Same with tougher times right?

[balmy sorrel]

Yep

[wispy hinge]

Man i found the tc 280 when im not using captain

[lavish jacinth]

7 is usually a good place to stop, it'll give you around a 50% block chance. You can get more if you want but the chance increase will be very small and you're better off getting other items, or switching to

[wispy hinge]

I got a bit more than 7

[cold beacon]

if i wanna get to false son do i keep going through the green portals or after i do the first green portal just hit the teleporter

[hearty shore]

keep going through green portals

[cold beacon]

k ty

[weary cloud]

if you give an engineer queens gland, does it give the turrets one too? do they get their own beetle guard?

[lavish jacinth]

no

[mystic patio]

has anyone experienced a bug in late game runs (like stages 50+) where after the teleporter event is completed, golems spawn ENDLESSLY next to an (unused) halcyon shrine? i cant leave the stage because they keep dying and i never run out of gold. i would like to know if there is a solution to this issue.

[mystic patio]

i just went away from the halcyon shrine, and i think the golems stopped spawning or something, maybe it was because my plimps were not able to reach them fast enough. not sure.

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, weird stuff happens on super high stages

[timid pilot]

can you still slam enemies as mercenary? ive been trying but I can't get it to work?

[pulsar creek]

You cannot

[shy pier]

does anyone know how to get the shattered abodes logbook, i've been looking everywhere but i can't find it

[full apex]

the chance is similar to armor, so it behaves similarly to a % ehp up on avg with more stacks improving consistency

[lyric bison]

Why is false son ult utility a pain do unlock?

[glad wolf]

Any one on Xbox and want to play

[full apex]

you can check the lfg channels

#lfg-xbox-ror2

[eager thicket]

#lfg-xbox-ror2 u have better change at finding someone here

[sly swan]

Hello! I have a question: I know there was a pastebin that you could replace the txt. files with to have logbook descriptions replace the in-game ones, but the one I knew of only covered up to Survivors of the void. Is there one for Seekers of the Storm?

[wispy hinge]

Is void fiend hard to get

[pastel seal]

Does anyone have any tips to get huntress' second special? The one having to win stage 3 without getting hit (dont tell me not to get hit pls im not skillfull at not getting hit)

[full apex]

barrier!

its 100% health not necessarily no hit, so brooches or aegis or etc can help

shield is counted as max hp, but barrier can go over 100% so you can take some damage as long as barrier blocks it

[pastel seal]

So I just have to get lucky and get lots of brooches?

[full apex]

depends on ur skill level, but i dont think its too bad personally. especially if you're willing to use artifacts

[full apex]

that or use command

[pastel seal]

Wait I could loop couldn't I?

[full apex]

i think you can loop as well

[pastel seal]

Perfect

[wispy hinge]

Whats a good boss item for railgunner

[full apex]

so yea getting to nuke OP levels could help

[full apex]

both perforators are really strong on everyone since proc chains are great

i think spleen should be guarantee-able so that would be good too, the nuke to bleeding enemy kills is really good even if you arent stacking a ton of bleed for dps

[wispy hinge]

Whats a good build for railgunner i got the dlc 10 mins ago

[full apex]

since shes good with burst stuff crowbar and bands are really nice

otherwise regular damage stuff is solid and proc chains are always good. crit is less valuable than normal since she cant crit outside of weakpoints

[wispy hinge]

Would ignition tank and gasoline be good too?

[full apex]

it gets converted to crit damage, which means its half as good as usual

[lavish jacinth]

molten perf is pretty easily the best for railgunner imo
cherf has the bug where it can't crit on her, and spleen doesn't do the blood explosion if the enemy dies in one hit, so unless you're using alt scope you probably won't get a ton of use out of it

All 3 are still really good, but if you have a choice, molten perf is the way to go

[full apex]

probably, thats kinda just a nice combo in general

oh does spleen not work? i assumed it would but thats kinda sadge. it should still go off on bosses sometimes tho right? which is nice for the % hp nuke

molten is my favorite in general tho

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you can get some bleed stacks on bosses usually, but it still loses a lot of its potential

[full apex]

yea

if it doesnt go off on normal mobs

[wispy hinge]

What items do i need for chef and what stage do i need to get him

[lavish jacinth]

, and you need reformed altar

[wispy hinge]

Is it on any stage.

[rich sundial]

does difficulty affect spawnrate for interactables such as shrines or chests

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[rich sundial]

ty

[lavish jacinth]

it's stage 2 on path of the colossus, you'll get there if you use a halcyon shrine on stage 1 and go through the green portal

[subtle flame]

is alloyed collective confirmed to release at any timeframe

[lavish jacinth]

nope, not yet

[subtle flame]

hm i remember hearing it was confirmed for 2025 somewhere

[lavish jacinth]

I mean maybe, 2025 is pretty realistic since it looks pretty far along already

but they haven't given an official date

if they do it'll be in #announcements

[wispy hinge]

Is bleed good for railgunner

[lavish jacinth]

not really

it's okay if you're using her alt secondary, but the default scope is too slow for bleed stacking to really be effective

and in the amount of time it would take to get a good bleed stack going with her primary, you could've probably just killed the enemy with scoped shots

[hot imp]

why dont i see anything to join when i go to multiplayer

i turned crossplay off and nothing changed

[peak ore]

Does syringe increase fire rate of double rebar mul-t? Or is it solely based on the speed of the R ability?

[lavish jacinth]

it only affects it for the first syringe, they have no effect after that because retool has a minimum cooldown of 0.5s

I think the animation is just a tiny bit longer than that which is why the first syringe helps

[peak ore]

Ok good to know. I am trying to play loader and double rebar mul-t and am trying to find good builds

[lavish jacinth]

there probably just aren't many people playing right now, you could try #lfg-pc-ror2 tho

[full apex]

yea its like 0.6s nowadays, it wasnt always

its a minor improvement, but an improvement nonetheless

[wispy hinge]

Ive never seen anyone use seeker is he good?

[lavish jacinth]

she's extremely good

[wispy hinge]

Didnt even know about her til i got the dlc myself

What kind of items or best for seeker

[lavish jacinth]

uhhh she works with pretty much everything honestly, the SotS survivors are all pretty good all-rounders. Although are extra noteworthy for letting her stay in sojourn longer and build up more damage

[sly swan]

Hello! I have a question: I know there was a pastebin that you could replace the txt. files with to have logbook descriptions replace the in-game ones, but the one I knew of only covered up to Survivors of the void. Is there one for Seekers of the Storm?

[lavish jacinth]

#ror2-modding miiight be a better place to ask, but depending on what you want to do you can always just edit the text yourself

[sly swan]

I'll try that. Thx for the help

[wispy hinge]

Should i use marksman or sniper on railgunner

[lavish jacinth]

both are fine, just use the one you prefer. The default scope is generally a little better though

the marksman is strong, but it has the downside of having to compete with another really strong skill

[eager thicket]

oh

i need to somehow find preon accumulator then does lethal dmg to imp

[quasi crystal]

how do i unlock laser scope?

[jade oasis]

whens thebest time to do halcyonite shrines stage 1? ive seen people instantly start them, do them after tp event, do them after full looting but before tp, and anywhere inbetween

cant figure out which is best

[plush isle]

i think you need the void dlc, and then its unlocked by default

[lavish jacinth]

yep, you just need to own Survivors of the Void

[quasi crystal]

oh just figured out why i wasnt getting it

[plush isle]

i like the rapid fire one more, get a bit of attackspeed and it gets crazy quick

[quasi crystal]

i had the dlc disabled on accident

[wispy hinge]

Thats what i did in my last run

[lavish jacinth]

It's better to do it later imo, because the amount of gold that enemies drop scales in real time, while costs only update at the start of the stage, so doing it later makes it a little easier to afford.
It also takes a total of 300 gold to charge on stage 1 so keep that in mind if you decide to do it after the teleporter

[wispy hinge]

Do u have to unlock chefs ice attack or is it the basic one

[lavish jacinth]

doing it after the tp is definitely easier but if you can't afford it then you might have to wait around for a while until it spawns golems

[lavish jacinth]

you have to unlock it

[wispy hinge]

Whats the mission?

[lavish jacinth]

apply 20 stacks of burn to mithrix at once

pins have tips on how to get it if you want, along with some other new unlocks that people frequently get stuck on

[hoary hare]

abt to do first run with false son. any tips

[lavish jacinth]

uhhh there's nothing you'd really need to know, other than don't pick up , it's a huge anti-synergy with his passive

he gets various buffs based on how much extra hp he's gotten from items, but transc cancels all of that out because it disables shield

[hoary hare]

ah ok

[lavish jacinth]

which also means bison steak is actually good on him, surprisingly

[hoary hare]

weird

[lavish jacinth]

not like amazingly good but worth keeping instead of being instant scrap

[hoary hare]

endergy drink printer stage 1

[eager thicket]

good

[wispy hinge]

Whats some good items for chef

[oak ruin]

does anyone know a mod that pauses the command artifact selection menu in singleplayer?

[clear whale]

for fire chef

[hoary hare]

its called get faster nerd

but actually im not sure lol

[eager thicket]

https://thunderstore.io/package/KubeRoot/CommandQueue/ u can try this

[oak ruin]

thanks yo

[hasty tinsel]

Another thing is that depending on survivor and map, they can vary from being incredibly hazardous to just being able to chuck 'em off a cliff for an easy win and free items.

Be a Super Mario Sunshine Chuckster

[glad edge]

will there every be updates to allow crossplay between xbox and pc

[primal vector]

Nothing has been announced on that regard

[wispy hinge]

For barbecue bison recipe for chef does it have to be done in one game

[quasi topaz]

I believe yes. Turn on artifact of kin and reroll until you get bison

[livid wedge]

Yes

[ruby sonnet]

Does anyone know if the logs for the following environments are bugged/unachievable?:

Viscous Falls
Disturbed Impact
Abandoned Aqueduct
Golden Dieback
Abyssal Depths
Helminth Hatchery

I've done about 5 runs now, all with at least 20 clovers and haven't managed to find their logs. It's all I need to 100% this game.

[daring cloak]

As far as we know viscous, impact, dieback, helminth and a few sots stages that arent listed here are unobtainable

Clovers do not increase the chance for the scanner interactable to appear

[ruby sonnet]

Really? I was told they're affected by luck long ago

[daring cloak]

They arent

Enemy logs are but not environment logs

[ruby sonnet]

Good to know

[ruby sonnet]

Ah, that makes more sense

So theoretically, only the Abandoned Aqueduct's log is obtainable? From that list, of course

[daring cloak]

And abyssal depths

[ruby sonnet]

Right

I'll try getting these two then, thank you!

[daring cloak]

Although

The others are technically obtainable but you need to not have certain other environment logs

For example disturbed impact's scanner can spawn if you dont have the titanic plains log yet

[ruby sonnet]

Well, I have every single log except those listed so

Should I just wait for them to fix this bug then?

[daring cloak]

Yeah but if you know someone who doesnt then you can play with them to get those logs

[ruby sonnet]

Fair enough, but one question

[daring cloak]

Yeah, they thought they fixed it this patch but that didnt turn out to be true so it should be fixed with the next update

[ruby sonnet]

If I have SotS, and they don't, will the scanner still appear?

[daring cloak]

Thats a good question

But I would assume they do

[ruby sonnet]

Sure thing then; I'll hop on and try to get the two I can for now

[daring cloak]

Those stages check the wrong interactable pool for what to spawn so I would think that disturbed impact only cares about wether or not the titanic scanner could spawn

[cold beacon]

does destroying the flying rocks on sky meadow do anything?

[daring cloak]

Iirc theyre used for the recycler unlock but apart from that destroying them does nothing except proccing your on kill effects

[wispy hinge]

What skills are best for chef

[cold beacon]

what do these do

[primal vector]

Left, you can deposit an item and end your run (and you can get it back when starting a new run). Right you continue to next stage

[pliant vine]

Is it worth waiting for enemies to spawn in Bulwark Ambry? I've been waiting almost 10 minutes, and I'm currently on stage 41. Not sure if there evert will spawn enemies or if there's a solution to this?

[brittle shuttle]

Ambry has an issue where it kinda just… stops working late into a loop

The game in general gets really weird late into looping

[jade oasis]

for false son what are the advantages of step of the brothers vs meridians will? been pretty much only using stepof the brothers but want to try out meridians but honestly unsure about how it works

and what the differences in feel/playstyle will be

[solemn wind]

Honestly the best way to find out is just to try it

Meridian's works better for emphasizing growth, and is a great starter to fights, but doesn't workwell for mobility

[jade oasis]

well yeah ofc, I just wanted to know what to expect so I dont get unpleasantly surprised

[solemn wind]

Big damage, super great buff, super slow cooldown

Doesn't take that much growth to get 100% uptime with its huge buff

(triples lunar tampering bonuses)

[jade oasis]

wait does the buff duration scale with growth?

and goddamn if thats true then

tahts insane, 100 uptime to triple growth buff, you dont even need a movement skill

youll regen or tank anything with the armour and regen

if they can even hit you with your 100000% movement speed

[brittle shuttle]

Step of the brothers is more agile and has better synergy with slam

Two charges of on command iframes

And slam proc co increases to 1.5 if falling with it for more than 0.5s

So you can charge slam dash up then let go

Also good for dealing with some flying enemies thanks to the airslam aoe buff

[jade oasis]

wait waht exactly does airborne slam give, im not too too familiar

[lyric palm]

are there any good up-to-date captain guides? how should i play him, especially later in the run? what items should i aim for? what skills should i pick? (is diablo strike only a meme? is there value in smth like healing + hacking or shocking + hacking?)

[daring cloak]

Diablo is not a meme

It is a very powerful skill if you learn how to use it

As for beacons

Healing is useless, forget about it immediately

[lyric palm]

it feels like its impossible to use diablo unless you throw it on a boss and run away, or you gamble, and then its hit or miss

[daring cloak]

Shocking is amazing, keeps several enemies locked in place

Resupply is also very good in my opinion because it opens up a lot of strategy focused around equipments

Hacking is fairly decent, not as amazing as people think but its good to have

[lyric palm]

does resupply only recharge the equipment once? or multiple times?

[daring cloak]

You can recharge it 3 times per beacon

[brittle shuttle]

The longer you fall the bigger the aoe is

And again the proc co increases to 1.5 if falling for more than 0.5s

[daring cloak]

Damage increases too

[lyric palm]

alright so i guess shock or resupply + hacking? and maybe consider diablo strike

and what kind of items should i aim for? (mainly for multiplayer, so i can know what to give to other players and what to request for myself)

[brittle shuttle]

Thought that was thrown away after phase 3

[jade oasis]

I seee, alright, and you were saying stuff about default and alt utility, pls continue

[daring cloak]

Personally I'd say the overall best beacon combinations are double shock, shock resupply or shock hacking

I have played around a bit with resupply hacking but losing the shocking beacon is rough

[brittle shuttle]

Thas pretty much all there is to it step of the brothers is a more agile move that has better synergy with slam and lets you stay in fights against bigger bosses longer

Meridians will is more of a burst move that has better synergy with normal primary

All of fs’ alt kit is more burst oriented

While his default kit is more consistent during combat

[lyric palm]

where/how would you use shocking beacon? reactively as an emergency thing? or proactively in the teleporter or similar?
and what kind of equipment based strategies would you recommend?

[daring cloak]

Definitely use shocking beacons near teleporters

If you need to shock things quickly you have the taser

[brittle shuttle]

ok airslam does not increase damage unfortunately

[daring cloak]

Equipment strategies vary on the run

[brittle shuttle]

https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/kkgmriXZN0p-xJBWp?invite=cr-MSxBNkMsNDQ2NzgwNTA

[daring cloak]

There are particularly strong ones like preon or forgive me please but I'd say most of them work decently well if you know when to use them properly

Although I do have to say

[lyric palm]

so its just recycling powerful equipments during things like teleporter events, instead of specific combos, gotcha

[daring cloak]

Resupply is only worth taking if you can speedshoot

[lyric palm]

speedshoot?

[daring cloak]

There will be situations where resupply will be barely useful, but in those situations you can choose to not use it and instead keep it stored to perform this tech

[jade oasis]

I seee, yeah ngl I sitll dont know whichones I like the best, literally all of his 6 abilitites have something I like about them

I mean utility is on the edge since I really like having more dashes, but still the triple grwoth is goddamn nice

[brittle shuttle]

everything is very interchangeable with false son
...except laser burst as of rn laser burst is kinda just better than laser of the father

[lyric palm]

what the
yeah i dont think i will be doing that
thats gonna destroy my fingers

[brittle shuttle]

lotf isnt bad per se but laser burst is just.. better

since they overbuffed it in phase 3

[daring cloak]

To do this you need to open the beacon menu, cancel it by choosing your primary beacon in a spot it cant be put on (like the sky), shooting, sprinting and repeating the process by opening the beacon menu

Or just mash sprint, primary and special

[jade oasis]

yeah I do feel it, but ngl laser of the father still feels nice, strenght wise its clearly outclassed but feeling wise theyre both on the egde, and thats tbf all I care about really

[lyric palm]

anyway what kind if items should i be on the lookout for, especially items that i dont want/can give to friends and items that they should ideally leave for me? (besides probably salestar so i can hack the red chest(s))

[brittle shuttle]

goat mod

kicks down laser burst ever so slightly and helps lotf ever so slightly

[jade oasis]

(but I will say I have been spamming laserburst much more than father lmao xd)

[brittle shuttle]

makes them feel way more even without making them feel bad

laser burst refill reverted back to 30% and laser of the father proc co increased to 0.75

[jade oasis]

what exactly changes? I wont lie im REALLY iffy on actual balance changes to the game cause then... isnt that cheating yknow, and makes the game easier, I like QOL mods, ive got a buttload of them but theyd ont actually make the game easier

do you think it makes the game easier and what does the general community think of modslike these, cause I just dont know

[brittle shuttle]

its nothing big and doesnt change fs' balance a lot

just makes laser burst less of an instawin and makes laser of the father scale better

changes are configurable too so if you wanna turn off laser burst changes but keep the lotf changes or anything like that

[primal vector]

Good changes

[jade oasis]

mhmmm

alright, I think ill try it out after this run then

I mean the changes do seem big but fair for the ability

might turn it off later tho cause im still iffy on it

[brittle shuttle]

lotf as of now just doesnt scale very well and the mod fixes it

early game its very strong but late game your normal primaries will outdamage it

but yeah everything is configurable so you can tweak it to your hearts content

[jade oasis]

yeahh I get that, but still to me if a character is weak that thats just the game and tweaking it is like youre playing another version of the game, I wouldnt tweak commando to buff him even though he is weaker than other survivors

thats just a part of the character and their difficulty, but ifits an ability on the same character that just giveshim more build diversity and being inline with his overall strenght then im willing to try itout

plus laser ofthe father just seems a bit more fun in concept to me

[ornate swan]

how do i get better with commandos grenades

[solemn wind]

your first step is gonna be unequipping them

You're not bad with them they're just a terrible ability

[ornate swan]

yeah but like i do cool trickshots so i can put in my mlg trickshot compilation

[foggy vessel]

wut

[fiery sedge]

Does anyone have any tips for getting the irradiant pearl?

I’m still trying to unlock it after 20 days of playtime

[primal vector]

A lot of people use grenades. Dint give absolutist advise that would keep someone away from the things they enjoy

[primal vector]

This plus egocentrism should do the trick

Fund one pool and farm there until you get one. They have a 20% chance to be irradiant, its not that bad

[solemn wind]

Just keep doing cleansing pools there isn't rly more to it than that

[fiery sedge]

Thanks

[golden arrow]

What do I do in the stage 6 artifact room ?

Like, I use the first key but then idk what to do I cant damage the artifact and i see no other keys

[hoary sedge]

just keep killing enemies until they drop another one

it takes a minute sometimes

[golden arrow]

ok thx

[full apex]

Grenades are really good, tbh i would say they're basically a direct upgrade

I think all of commandos alts are a pretty fair upgrade over base, which is funny because he's the only character like that

[solemn wind]

The alt secondary is hilariously more powerful

You've got moderate damage piercing bolt, which is useful, or just fucking deleting a nearby enemy

[full apex]

Yea

And for some reason after a while, with slide already just way better, they nerfed roll lmao

[solemn wind]

That one's really confusing

They're not even different utilities. There's dodge roll, and faster further dodge roll that you can attack in the midst of

[quasi crystal]

Is today a good day to try to get slicing whirlwind from the merc

[full apex]

With a double jump backup lol. If roll gave iframes like ror1 i think it would be nicer

[full apex]

I think cabbage still does a run on every one of them in #prismatic-trials if you wanna peek

[stuck axle]

How am I supposed to beat eclipse 8 with rex, it seems literally impossible

[quasi topaz]

Switch to his non self damage loadout or only use one self damage ability and use it sparingly

[hoary sedge]

tangling growth is so much better that it's usually better to run it and just use it sparingly yeah

directive harvest is genuinely terrible

[quasi crystal]

Why

[quasi topaz]

I only run the special as the self damaging, the grouping is amazing

[quasi topaz]

Low damage and almost no real utility

[quasi crystal]

I only really play mul-t

Sometimes acrid

[hoary sedge]

like dusk said, low damage for how long the cooldown is and the healing isn't very helpful usually, and then it's competing with one of the best cc skills in the game (that also has really good healing)

[quasi crystal]

Oh ok

[hoary sedge]

i will say, harvest IS kinda funny with noxious thorn bc it transfers the debuff AND drops fruit, but that amount of healing is excessive to the point that it doesn't really do much of anything for you, unless you find aegis or nkuhana

[indigo depot]

at what stage do i beat the game

[pastel seal]

Unless you loop, you'd beat the game after clearing stage 6

[indigo depot]

what then if i loop\

[stuck axle]

You just keep going until you choose not to loop or you obliterate

[pastel seal]

looping is a way of making your run longer by starting at stage 1 with the items you had

[indigo depot]

how do i obliterate

[pastel seal]

but the difficulty stays as it was before looping

[stuck axle]

Stage 8 there will be a light blue portal

Go into it and you’ll find an obelisk that you interact with to end your run

It counts as beating the game

[pastel seal]

after looping once, you'll see a portal everytime you clear what would normally be stage 3

[indigo depot]

ok thanks

[pastel seal]

i'd believe you're trying to get the "true respite" achievement, either that or you're trying to unlock a mastery skin

if its the second the one you're going for, you'll need to do it while playing on monsoon (the hard difficulty)

[fast briar]

Low key took me a while to get that lol so good tip

I always thought it meant "beat the game, or obliterate on monsoon" when in reality its "beat the game or obliterate, on monsoon"

[pastel seal]

same, lol

im yet to beat it in that mode

[fast briar]

Lol fr

Are you new or just havrnt played much monsoon?

[pastel seal]

everytime I won a run i wondered why i didn't get the achievement until i read the gamemodes

[fast briar]

Yep same

[pastel seal]

i'd say im new

[fast briar]

I also embarrassingly always thought people getting 3 items from halc shrine was bc of multiplayer or late game scaling and I always just pressed e whenever I could on the shrine, fr such a dumb mistake

But if you have no idea what the shrine does you'd think to just activate it

[pastel seal]

58 hours, but at least 20 were a while ago when i first bought the game

[fast briar]

Ah okay

I started monsoon runs like 70 hours in tbf its a big jump and the games hard

[pastel seal]

and then i was awful, because i only managed to unlock barely any characters

[pastel seal]

I have been trying but its just too hard

[fast briar]

Everyone sucks at the start, I used to think mithrix was impossible and making it past stage 3/4 was a huge accomplishment

[fast briar]

Keep trying, the reward is good, you just gotta focus on the damage you take, eventually it becomes the new rainstorm and then eclipse is the new monsoon as you climb the difficulty ladder

[pastel seal]

and apparently there is an eclipse mode that gets progresively harder

[pastel seal]

honestly the first time i beat mithrix was when i played artificier and realized the boss has like 0 way of hitting you in the air

[fast briar]

Yeah its ez with artificer, false son whoops you way more in the air than mithrix ever could

[pastel seal]

btw, does anyone know where is the other half of the stone that has the portal pasword in sirens call?

[misty drum]

is it possible for the artifact keys to fall off the map and softlock you because ive been mindlessly killing enemies for like 10 minutes and i can't get the last key to spawn to kill the boss

[pastel seal]

i dont know what false son is, id assume its a dlc boss, of which i dont have any

[fast briar]

Yes, 2nd dlc boss, would recommend both dlcs once you did a lot of base game

[pastel seal]

i often find 2 keys at the same time, so its possible youre just having bad luck

[fast briar]

Multiple should be able to spawn so I think rngezus is not on your side

[misty drum]

literally the instant i tabbed back in a elite lemurian just died for no reason and dropped the key

[pastel seal]

i'd love to get them someday, but in my country it's currently hard

[fast briar]

Where are you from ?

[pastel seal]

goated

[pastel seal]

Argentina, i should be able to buy them but since now steam switched from Ars to Dollars i have problems with payment

[fast briar]

Ah thats annoying, rip

If you're ever able to I'd recommend getting the dlcs, summer sale is around the corner

[pastel seal]

maybe some day i'll come back to this game and buy the dlcs

[pastel seal]

haha, even with the sales i couldn't buy them, but i wish i could

they look fun

everytime I play one of those weekly challenges that have the dlcs i'm amazed at the amount of content im missing

[pastel seal]

Can someone help me with this please

i cant find it and it's one of the few i'm missing

[primal vector]

Its in half because the other half has been voided. Its on the void fields

[pastel seal]

that's where acrid was unlocked right? i been there just once, no wonder i cant find it

thank you

[primal vector]

Nada

[wispy hinge]

What skills are best on chef

[quasi topaz]

I use alt secondary and base everything else

[wispy hinge]

What does the alt special do

[quasi topaz]

Buffs the use of your next ability

Different abilities have different effects

[wispy hinge]

Would that be better with ice box?

Since glaze benefits from sear mostly

[quasi topaz]

Idk I don't use the alt special, I like the damage and aoe of glaze

Glaze with ice box freezes the puddles and freezes enemies allowing for execute bars

[wispy hinge]

O

What does 57 leaf clover do

[hoary hare]

is palm blast or meditate better on seeker?

[wispy hinge]

Whats a good amount of back mags for chef

[analog brook]

Palm blast is glitched rn and doesn't scale with levels and csnt crit ):

[hoary hare]

ah ok i havnt even tried it since i got it

[digital yoke]

imo definitely meditate by a wide margin. palm blast is pretty hard to stack, it doesn't do great damage, and you don't get a revive for hitting max tranquility stacks like you do with meditate

[hoary hare]

that revive has saved a few of my runs lol

[quasi topaz]

To unlock ice box you need to stack attack speed to get the 20 stacks of burn off

[wispy hinge]

I never asked for that

I ment jus for it to be good

[quasi topaz]

When a chance based item fails to roll (like bleed or ukelele) the clover will roll it again

[hoary hare]

uh. i thought this was only supposed to be on stage 1

[quasi topaz]

It can show up on any stage, it's just more likely/garunteed on stage 1

[hoary hare]

ah ok

[wispy hinge]

Does pocket i.c.b.m effect plasma shrimp

[hoary hare]

yes

are these of any use on railgunner?

[hoary sedge]

railgunner is probably the best character for them but even then they're dubious bc she already does enough damage to not really need them most of the time and she doesn't hit very quickly outside of m1

and not taking them lets you get more scrap

[hoary hare]

i ended up not grabbing them

[peak scaffold]

are bands good on acrid

[hoary hare]

pretty sure bands are the best item in the game

[lavish jacinth]

not the best in the game but they're pretty much always good

[hoary hare]

well other than sale star lol

[lavish jacinth]

nah

[hoary hare]

i like my little star balloon

his name is dave

[peak scaffold]

can u say hi to dave for me

[lavish jacinth]

if we're just talking greens, atg is generally best
same total damage as kjaro's band but in an instant burst with no cooldown and a 1.0 proc coeff, and it's good on everyone

[open grail]

Yo can anyone please give me some advice on unlocking false son/ boss fight, i tried alone and with up to two friends but i/ we cant seem to beat the false son on Monsoon (did beat him a couple of times but not with the aurelionite seed item). Either we take too long and are overwhelmed by the scaling or we rush and are too unprepared even though we try too loot asap, i am loosing hope

[lavish jacinth]

well, definitely don't rush, you always wanna full-clear stages

[open grail]

is it better to try it on second loop?

[lavish jacinth]

it'll probably be easier yeah

[hoary hare]

i did it on a 3rd loop as seeker just to 1 shot him lol

[lavish jacinth]

also, don't pick up more than one halcyon seed, it just makes auri stronger with no benefit
(Although I don't know how that unlock works in multiplayer, whether only the person who had a seed gets the unlock or if everyone does)

[open grail]

i just didnt have patience for third loops, i think i tried it on second loop only to not having found the seed on the way there

[open grail]

yea that might be also a problem, ill try next time with only one but idk maybe a solo run might just be more manageable

stupid soab making me seethe and cope

[lavish jacinth]

it might be easier to do it solo yeah

[open grail]

its really fun being a human sawblade with seeker

[lavish jacinth]

I think still works on Auri in that fight, but you give your equipment slot for it

respawnable minions are also secretly OP for false son in general, he still gets distracted really easily so will stunlock his brain for the entire fight lol

[peak scaffold]

is this a decent build for eclipse

[lavish jacinth]

should be fine

eclipse 1 is basically identical to normal monsoon

[peak scaffold]

ight

[open grail]

thanks for the advice

[brittle shuttle]

theres a giant tip section on the fs wiki page done by someone who fights him religiously

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/False_Son_(Boss)#Tips

[peak scaffold]

is tri tip better than crit glasses on shatterspleen

[brittle shuttle]

no

if you get shatterspleen and already have a good amount of bleed the only reason you keep tritip is tomaybe get needletick

[peak scaffold]

but what if i dont have any crit to bleed

[lavish jacinth]

in that case hang onto your tritips until you get some crit

[peak scaffold]

ight

[hoary hare]

Nah I like turning her into a nuclear bomb

[quasi crystal]

What are the odds to go 13 stages without seeing the imp overlord once

[lavish jacinth]

probably not that unlikely, it only appears on a handful of normal stages

[wispy hinge]

Whats the chance of halycon shrine of spawning

[peak scaffold]

is this good?

[hoary hare]

100% on stage 1

[fallen bridge]

why are you looping ... on eclipse?

[peak scaffold]

it was on accident went into blue portal stage 5

didnt know it looped you

[vague pasture]

does anyone know if seeker rez buff stacks in multiplayer with multiple seekers

[wispy hinge]

What portal sends u to halycon seed place

Gold or green

[mellow crystal]

Gold

[wispy hinge]

Is singularity band better than the other two?

[brittle shuttle]

generally no but it does have its niches

[random escarp]

My teleporter boss fights take too long. I can't tunnel vision on the boss since then the other mobs will quickly take me out. But then I have to basically alternate between hitting the boss and then taking out the other mobs. So I am effectively just poking the boss from time to time which takes veryy long. I feel like that makes me fall behind on time.

[dire hazel]

New to ror2 im tryna unlock my characters but having a hard time with loader. Is there a way to increase the chance of getting siren call as the 4th stage?

[solemn wind]

Turning off dlc, going to the shop

[lavish jacinth]

if you go to the bazaar from stage 3, you can use the lunar seers at the back of the shop to pick the next stage. It's not 100% guaranteed that siren's will be an option, but it increases your odds a lot.
The image for siren's looks like this

it'll cost a total of 4 lunar coins tho (3 for the seer and 1 for newt altar)

[lavish jacinth]

dlc won't matter for this, there aren't any dlc stage 4's

[dire hazel]

I kept getting the stage where it tells me to reach temple on stage 4

But yeah thank you ill give that a try

[lavish jacinth]

uhhh you mean prime meridian?

[dire hazel]

Ive got like 18 or so lunar coins that should be good for a few runs

Idk what its called but its the stage to fight the false son

[wispy hinge]

This good for false son

[lavish jacinth]

oh

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, just don't take the green portals and you won't end up there. False son is an optional alternate path

[dire hazel]

How do I avoid green portals? Sometimes i can only find a green one

[wispy hinge]

Jus dont go thru

[solemn wind]

Seriously? Fuck! Wow! I hope dlc 3 changes that I want more stage fours

[dire hazel]

Ohh use the tele i see

[lavish jacinth]

learning to prioritize enemies is just something to practice, along with dodging enemies without needing to focus on them. Most enemies have terrible aim and you can pretty much ignore them as long as you keep moving, it also helps to have drones to draw aggro.

[wispy hinge]

Ye

[lavish jacinth]

just take the normal teleporter yeah

if you can't find it, look for orange particles in the air and follow them

[solemn wind]

Yeah that's how you progress in the game normally portals take you to bonus realms

[lavish jacinth]

there's a setting to make them more visible too

[lavish jacinth]

yeah I'd say that's more than good enough lol

[dire hazel]

Yeah i always get thrown off after the boss and always hop in the green portal😂

Figured that was where i was supposed to go

[quasi crystal]

is the engineer carbon turrets good? or should i stick with the normal turrets

[lavish jacinth]

Also, you don't have to stress too much about the timer as long as you're keeping up on items, just try to full-clear stages and get roughly 1 item per minute.
(if you haven't been full clearing I recommend doing that too)

[lavish jacinth]

they're a little weaker on average but not bad enough to not use, so it's kinda up to preference

[solemn wind]

A little weaker but won't get completely fucked by mushrums and brass contraptions

But also those are only 2 enemies that don't show up too often so it's not that big a deal

[dire hazel]

Whats yalls favourite survivor? Im in the character unlock process and i wanna go for the better ones first obviously

[hoary hare]

if you get the teleporter to 99% it will stop spawning mobs even if the boss is alive then u can kill it time dosent matter as much as people say. that 5 min per stage rule is stupid

[solemn wind]

False Son for when I just wanna unga bunga smash everything instant win, arti for when I want to try

[dire hazel]

Arti is a cool survivor to use, ive yet to hear about the false son survivor ill have to check it out

[solemn wind]

Kill the false son boss with in your inventory for him

[lavish jacinth]

if you want strong survivors to play then Loader and any of the DLC survivors are all solid choices, although false son and void fiend are harder to get

[solemn wind]

Void Fiend's easy just play Simulacrum as Engi

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, he's still harder to get than most survivors lol

[dire hazel]

I was able to beat false son on my first attempt but i didn’t have that thing in my inventory

I beat him one time and one time only every time i go back i get whooped

I forgot what items i had but they did the job for sure on my first try

[wispy hinge]

If my game crashes do i lose that game

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[wispy hinge]

Nooo

Was jus bouta do false son

[lavish jacinth]

rip

[brittle shuttle]

if youre tryna unlock fs i recommend just looping till you have a god run

fs as is is a pretty difficult boss to master and bringing makes a certain someone angry and become hostile to you during phase 3

you can beat false son consistently without looping but if you wanna skip the learning process just fish for a god run

[chilly mica]

Can you die more than once? I see the warrior achievement saying complete the 3rd teleporter event withour dying (first time playing the game)

[mellow crystal]

Yes since there are items that revive you like
Also you can die in multiplayer and it'll respawn you at the start of the next stage

[chilly mica]

oh thank

[mellow crystal]

Also also the seekers of the storm dlc adds two ways to revive allies mid-stage

[oak ruin]

is there a mod to auto mark or make newt altars easier to find?

[brittle shuttle]

not that i know of but you can also just check the wiki

The altars have the same spawn locations

[eager thicket]

is the rocket launcher on mul-t even good?

or just go classic nail+rebar?

[weary cloud]

I was able to beat monsoon with it no issue, not sure how it does on eclipse

It has good dps with retool, I’d recommend just trying it first to see if you like it

[eager thicket]

i tried, it's cool. But i just think i like classic more

[hoary hare]

Wtf does shirne of shaping do? Except take my hp away

[eager thicket]

money for blood

[hoary hare]

No that's blood shrine

I mean the Perma health one

Looks like it's wearing a crown

[eager thicket]

Isn't they both doing money?

[hoary hare]

I didn't see it give me $

But I'm also on loop 5 so money is kinda obsolete

My run went from a shitty no loot rn to a god run after 1 loop 😂

[eager thicket]

that what wiki say

[lavish jacinth]

temporary extra life for that stage

[mellow crystal]

Where did you read money here???
I'm genuinely curious

[eager thicket]

i opened wiki after answering question

[mellow crystal]

Ah

[hoary hare]

why does railgunners 3rd skin look like its ripped outa titanfall i love it

[spring token]

Is there an item that gives Acrid more uses of his R ability?

[analog brook]

Lycate cell

[spring token]

Ok sweet thank you

[random escarp]

Yeah but the problem is that if I am gonna spend time on a stage I should be collecting items right... with the long boss fight I am spending a very long time only for a single item. Unless that logic is flawed. Please correct me if so.

[spring token]

Is there a way to multuply the poison damage in some way?

Or does it just increase with your regular damage?

[hoary hare]

You still get money?, just farm enough to get the chests? Plus that's after you loot, you wanna kill the boss as fast as possible. But if it in a pinch and it won't die just focus on dodging and getting the TP to 99 then u can kill everything and be done

Loot, boss, worry abt 99 first in a pinch only

[random escarp]

What do you mean by "if it in a pinch?"

[hoary hare]

Like, biggest one is the dune strider or if your not doing enough dmg and there's too many mobs

Itl just keep healing itself

[lavish jacinth]

any damage multiplier will work, etc.

although are notably less effective because they increase damage rather than adding an extra multipler at the end of the damage calculation like most multipliers

[mellow crystal]

I'd love to give advice but I've genuinely never had this issue
When killing the boss I kinda just run in a circle for ranged survivors or do my usual thing for melees and it works out

[spring token]

Thank you

[eager thicket]

i think if u have enough items u are killing bosses with no issue

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, unless your damage is absolutely abysmal, it's pretty rare that you can't kill the boss before the tp hits 100%

[lavish jacinth]

Based on this it really does sound like you're letting yourself get distracted by other enemies and not focusing the boss

usually as long as you just keep moving, most normal enemies aren't a problem. Just be aware of what's going on around you and dodge as needed, don't completely tunnel vision

[mellow crystal]

To me it seems like an issue of putting too much focus into either tbh
Ideally you wanna focus on damaging the boss while dodging the enemies, because for most tp bosses their attacks either aren't all that threatening or have long windups

[random escarp]

Ooh makes sense

[spring token]

Are scavengers the big dudes with sacks that shoe up later in runs?

[random escarp]

Ok I will focus on this in my next run

[lavish jacinth]

yeh

[random escarp]

Thanks guys

[eager thicket]

there was a situation when there was too much stuff. And i just ran away from the object. Tried to lure the enemies into one chunk of mobs and kill most of them. Idk if it's good, but it helps me not die

[mellow crystal]

That is definitely useful for if you're overwhelmed yea

[lavish jacinth]

kiting enemies and grouping them up is a very valid strat

[spring token]

Didn't notice you responded thank you

When do they spawn usually? During a loop?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, they're normally loop-exclusive, although for some reason they can rarely spawn on stage 4 sundered grove, usually only if you stack mountain shrines though

[spring token]

Ohh ok sweet

Is there anything to get more primary skill charges?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[spring token]

Unfortunate

[dusky raven]

that would be useless on like 80% of the cast

[lavish jacinth]

and attack speed exists

[spring token]

My friend is on artificer would atk speed work there?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[spring token]

Epic

Thank you again

[chilly mica]

What does the hidden areas do ?

i just get into a portal

[mellow crystal]

Which one

All of them freeze time for difficulty scaling but they all have different purposes

[primal vector]

It depends. The blue portal gets you to a bazaar where you can buy lunar items or exchange green and white items. There are also some secrets hidden in the bazaar

[chilly mica]

The yellow portal

[primal vector]

There you can fight a secret boss that gives a unique reward and can be used for some unlocks

[mellow crystal]

One survivor unlock and one item unlock iirc

[pliant vine]

Hey so I didn't know that Bulwark ambry breaks at higher stages, is there any ways to get out or is my run dead? I do use some mods and if there's a mod that could help i'd appreciate that

[lavish jacinth]

debugtoolkit would probably be the best solution, just put next_stage in the console

[slim spoke]

this shit still around?

[pliant vine]

Thank you very much

[lavish jacinth]

stuff breaking at high stage counts has always been a thing

[pliant vine]

But there's no mods that can make Bulwark still work? cuz I enjoy changing my character every now and then, and getting the achievements for the ones I don't have yet

[lavish jacinth]

if there's a mod that fixes it then #ror2-modding would know

...although if you just wanna change character, then debugtoolkit does that too lol

[pliant vine]

Yeah but yk I use vanilla mods and don't want to use debugtoolkit unless i'm softlocked yk just wanna be as legitimate as possible

[lyric palm]

how are you supposed to play bandit later into a run (end of loop 1 and beyond)
i was told to always go desperado, but i have trouble stacking it up later in the run, so i just spam basic attacks, shoot a desperado for some damage and then go invisible before repeating it

also i have trouble using the secondary (either of them) it feels like it doesnt do much, even when critting, and it feels like my time is better spent just reloading and shooting again

[mellow crystal]

Secondary is best used for stacking up DoT on a tankier target since it has bleed stacking, which basically means that applying a new stack of hemorrhage refreshes the duration of every stack of hemorrhage, so if you keep applying new stacks then it'll just keep increasing in damage

Tankier targets don't really exist past loop 1 tho since you instakill basically everything so there no real use for secondary aside from stacking luminous shot

[chilly mica]

Which character have auto aim other than huntress cause i am bad

[lavish jacinth]

engineer kinda, technically railgunner but not in a way that's useful, the melee characters don't exactly have autoaim but their attacks mostly have big hitboxes that barely require aiming anyway

[primal vector]

Acrid with the special skill kinda

[proven wasp]

hey ! i tried to help my friend unlock chef but he doesn't have to sots dlc, i have it though so we could play it and its not letting him input items, the run before this i got chef and now we did another one so he can unlock chef too. is it not letting him input the items cause he doesnt have the dlc ?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you can't unlock characters for dlcs you don't own

[proven wasp]

alright, i thought it'd just give him the achievement at least

[subtle flame]

will the dlc2 characters ever get prime meridian skins

[daring cloak]

Very unlikely

[subtle flame]

😔

killing false son as false son just has to give an extremely cool skin

[slim spoke]

nope.avi

[tidal hawk]

Hello! In the growth nectar formula (1 + 0.04 ⋅ itemStacks ⋅ buffStacks), does itemStacks indicate the amount of growth nectars? in which case, does that mean that an individual buff becomes stronger, if you have bigger amounts of growth nectar?

[analog brook]

I believe this is outdated from before phase 2 of the SotS roadmap

[chrome glade]

Is brittle crown worth it?

[pulsar creek]

Depends how often you get hit, it’s usually considered a pretty good item

[chrome glade]

I got confused I thought that was the one that turned all gold into xp

[pulsar creek]

No the one that turns all gold into xp is longstanding solitude I believe

[chrome glade]

Is it worth using?

[pulsar creek]

That one idk, I don’t have any experience with it

Sorry

[honest badger]

design is easy

[left trellis]

none of the pillars are particularly hard, design is just annoying

[honest badger]

soul

[fallen bridge]

i don't like blood solely because it causes curse in e8 w/o any dmg reduction

though if i've got a rap or buckler, soul is much worse

[solemn wind]

Mass is annoying because none of them are hard, just tedious, and mass takes so long

[honest badger]

soul is legitimately difficult, those little chimera balls can reset your progress immediately

[tardy garden]

is it worth picking up crit glasses as railgunner? how good is the extra damage?

[daring cloak]

Its pretty bad

[tardy garden]

alright

[full apex]

Its functionally halved, and crit is already underweighted compared to other damage items cause of the synergy... So yea not really very good

Damage whites are like 15-20% usually, rather than 10. So dropping to 5% per lens makes them a bit iffy

[hot imp]

why are huntresses arrows invisible a lot of the time

is it a settings thing

[glad edge]

why am i stuck on a black screen after i beat monsoon engi

randomly hearing explosions

[brave basin]

guys I'm losing my mind dealing with twisted elites they weren't here last time I played a year ago and i just keep dying to them, I picked up on the whole area buffing them and other mobs thing but do they have some aoe attack that deals hella damage? I just keep losing my runs to the same mob type and am losing it 😭

[high forum]

pay attention to what happens when you attack things inside of their aura

[lavish jacinth]

You have to attack them directly, not the enemies they're buffing

If you attack the ones being buffed, they'll charge up and throw a homing spike ball at you that applies lunar ruin, which lasts until you kill the twisted elite

The spike ball itself can also be destroyed

They're not really that hard to deal with, you just have to pay attention to them

[bright tangle]

why did most of my common items go away and turn into soldier syringes

[wispy hinge]

How hard would it be to beat false son after a loop

[brittle shuttle]

Did you by chance use a shrine of order

[bright tangle]

yeah

[brittle shuttle]

rare intractable that transforms all items of a rarity into one specific one

[bright tangle]

ohh

[brittle shuttle]

On the bright side you got one of the better items it could’ve transformed into

[wispy hinge]

Are u able to get gold portal other than shrine of gold?

[quasi topaz]

Can be a map choice in the bazaar (blue portal)

[brittle shuttle]

Shrine of gold
Map from bazaar
If you find a halcyon shrine already on the path of colossus or after stage 3

[wispy hinge]

Didnt know the halcyon shrine way

Is noxious thorn jus a better tri tip dagger

[quasi topaz]

Tri tips have a higher bleed chance per stack whereas thorn caps at 1 and instead increases the amount of enemies you can transfer debuffs to

If you have 1 then they are equal otherwise if your goal is bleed then stack tri tips

[wispy hinge]

I seeeee

[wispy hinge]

What causes more lag plasma shrimp or atg

[brittle shuttle]

plimp

[lavish jacinth]

If you have clover then plimp is probably less laggy

[wispy hinge]

I usually go for like 3 clovers

[lavish jacinth]

Atgs are an actual projectile with a hitbox and some ai, and they're good at setting off proc chains, so each missile has more of a performance impact

Meanwhile plimp missiles are just a particle effect with a really low proc coeff so they're not as bad

[wispy hinge]

Would pocket I.C.B.M affect little disciple

[brittle shuttle]

naur

[hasty tinsel]

Much preferable to pre-rework twisteds that basically guaranteed death due to proc-chains quite often.

[fair sequoia]

why am i taking so much damage in the void fields
i've gone there 2 - 3 times and each time i have lost my run to it

[wispy hinge]

Best boss item for chef

[mellow crystal]

Void fog damage increases if you stay in it without exiting it

[fair sequoia]

i died in two hits from enemies

not the fog

[lavish jacinth]

Did they have crowbars or something?

[weary cloud]

Does the head ST red item remove fall dmg?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[worthy steeple]

can Cleansing Pools spawn in path of the colossus?

wiki says they cant but i SWEAR ive seen em spawn

ive got like 50 stacks of ego im tryna get rid of rn

[lavish jacinth]

I'm pretty sure I've seen them on treeborn colony

although the best place to go is aphelian sanctuary

[worthy steeple]

im in aphelian rn

didn't get one

[lavish jacinth]

unlucky

[worthy steeple]

i think i'll try treeborn colony next cuz i've only seen em on sulfur pools like once or twice

can i still go to prime meridian if i go to treeborn colony and then leave?

or do i have to go to prime

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you can get back to PotC later

[worthy steeple]

sweet ty

[fair sequoia]

what?

[lavish jacinth]

enemies get items in void fields

[fair sequoia]

oh

[lavish jacinth]

it shows what they have under your objectives

[fair sequoia]

i don't know what items they had

i lost the run a while ago anyway

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, gotta pay attention to what they have

[fair sequoia]

how do i deal with that anyway?

they do too much damage before i'm able to do any damage to them

[lavish jacinth]

well with crowbars, you can just step out into the fog occasionally to keep yourself under 90% health

[fair sequoia]

oh ok

am i fine to stay in the fog to just avoid attacks?

[lavish jacinth]

for a little while yeah

the damage ramps up the longer you're in it though, so you can't survive in the fog forever

[fair sequoia]

i know

[wispy hinge]

Am i able to continue after false son?

[fallen bridge]

yah ... interact w/ the shrine once after beating fs & a portal that sends you to stage 4 will appear

[pulsar creek]

Are there any known false son itemless pillar skips

[wispy hinge]

What lunar items are good for false son

[left trellis]

the only one that has particular synergy is the stone pauldron

everything else is as usual

[brittle shuttle]

Anti synergy with tho

[wispy hinge]

Whats a good build for void fiend hes kinda confusing for me

[lavish jacinth]

he leans towards proc items but he's a pretty good all-rounder, the big thing with him is to avoid %-based healing items that you can't easily control like .
Crit-related items are also good to have, because he gains 2% corruption every time he gets a crit.
are both fine to take for healing because regen doesn't affect corruption and the corruption gained from a crit will outweigh the loss from scythe, just don't stack more than like 2

In his uncorrupt form he's already got a really powerful built-in heal with his special and he has 100 armor when corrupted, so he's not super reliant on healing and can afford to go all in on damage and speed

[hoary hare]

can anyone explain how false son works he feels like a really shitty melee character with a laser

[mossy tiger]

You use your spines to get a damage buff and Regen then you laser and finish them off with Melee if needed

[celest kayak]

anyone know how to fix startup fail? its happened twice in a row now and my game takes like 20 mins to load as it is xd

[lavish jacinth]

this?
Try manually killing steam using task manager, someone in bug reports said that works

[celest kayak]

ill try that, thanks a lot

[hoary hare]

can i cancel the laser early its geting me killed

[mossy tiger]

You used to be able to use the dash, but otherwise no, not to my knowledge. You can use the alt laser if you don't like the default one

[lavish jacinth]

can't you just cancel it with your primary

[hoary hare]

thats the thing. hes the only character i havnt unlocked anything on

[hoary hare]

just tried that as u said it

yes ty

[celest kayak]

it worked, thank you kindly!

[dusky raven]

Does Captain's Resupply Beacon recharge overtime

like the interactable

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[hasty tinsel]

One and done, with the only recharges bring getting more when going to a different stage.

[dusky raven]

damn

it should

[livid plover]

you can get another by getting Dios and dying when u res u get another shot

had to do that to get the smushed mithrix achievement

[lavish jacinth]

or just

(if it's in the first beacon slot)

[lavish jacinth]

it really should tho, might make it worth using

[hasty tinsel]

Huh, didn't know this bit, nice to know.

[spark kite]

What do you think: which survivor will be added in the 3rd DLC from OG risk?

[lavish jacinth]

#poll message

Drone-themed DLC, Han-D is a drone-themed survivor

[spark kite]

Wait, isn't he from returns?

[lavish jacinth]

No, han-d was in the original

[spark kite]

O f-k, then i think i have dementia

[fast briar]

Drifter is new in returns, pretty sure thats it survivor wise

[lavish jacinth]

pilot and robomando are also new

technically artificer too

[fast briar]

Oh yeah facts

Forgot abt them

[timber topaz]

im being rage baited by halcyonites not cause they kill me but because i have like 100 more hours after this dlc and i for the life of me cannot find its logbook

i have everything but that

is it bugged?

i know the logbooks for some stages are

[daring cloak]

Afaik it is not bugged

But I can relate, that logbook took ages for me to get too

Even got false son's log before the halc log

[timber topaz]

do clovers up the chance for it to drop because i might just do a command run and get a ton of clovers

[daring cloak]

Yes clovers affect enemy log drop rate

[timber topaz]

thank god

[daring cloak]

I suggest turning on swarms too so you have twice as many halcyonites to kill

[timber topaz]

smart didnt think of that

[daring cloak]

Which kinda works like an extra pseudo clover that affects all the other actual clovers too

Basically doubling your rolls

[timber topaz]

thank you i will get that log if its the last thing i do

[hasty tinsel]

Looping also means more halcyonite spawns, so that's an option as well.

[loud summit]

Any tips for eclipse? (That's all I have left to do in this game lol)

[primal vector]

Someone is writing a >20k words steam guide on eclipse with each survivor, but its not out yet

[pulsar creek]

https://youtu.be/aJWfwbG93Z8?si=oV9Vd7Y8I1oDlvMk

[weary cloud]

Should I print 6 AP rounds before mithrix or save the 6 scrap for the exchange ( i already have 8)

[weary cloud]

i printed 16 bullets i won'

[trim narwhal]

generally printing a strong white is more efficient, depends on build tho

if you have 0 and print 5 ap arounds, you basically double ur dmg vs mithrix. while stuff like behemoth is only 1.6x and doesnt work off like sticky bombs or bleed etc

if you already have 5 and print 5 more, its 2x->3x dmg for 1.5x, technically lower than 1.6x, though it works on more kinds of dmg

but i mean it could totally be a happy mask cauldron, not behemoth

wait im stupid. why did i think it was 5 white for a red, im too fried on like 3h of sleep lmoa

well its pretty similar anyways, 0->3 ap rounds is 1.6x, 3->6 ap rounds is 1.375x, an atg is 1.3x (depends on other proc items and coeffs etc, also doesnt help bleed), but it might not be atg could be shipping request forms

[gusty anvil]

dont forget about fall damage being lethal after ec 3

and that you can die in the bazaar 🥀

[steady stone]

eventually healing becomes drastically unimportant compared to sheer reduction and nullification, since curse, but not irrelevant as a whole

[loud summit]

Okay

[loud summit]

already watched that one pretty helpful

I mostly need to get better with mithrix

[hoary hare]

why is stage 2 only spawning golems theres like 40 chasing me

[steady stone]

Does/did it say "[WARNING] The earth rumbles and groans with mysterious energies.." in the chat

[hoary hare]

idk i didnt look tbh but either way WHY

theres literally over 100 of them

[steady stone]

there's "family events" in this game that limit the pools to that family of enemies

golem event is golem, halcyonite, and titans

but stage 2 wont have enough credits to spawn the other 2

2% chance to occur for a stage (almost 4% with SOTV, after loop)

[hoary hare]

i just wanted to try fiend

and i get this

[steady stone]

Yeah, they can be rough. Especially Gup and Lunar Chimera family

gup moreso rough on your frames

[hoary hare]

yep and since i had to avoid golems for 15 mins and could barely loot stage 3 was literally impossible

also what is shrine of order

[steady stone]

Shrine of Order makes all items of a rarity into a specific item of that rarity

[brittle shuttle]

the funny shrine

[steady stone]

Like, if you have 2 , 2 , 2 , 2 , you could get 6 of any of those 3 whites, and the ATG stays ATG since it is a different rarity

[hoary hare]

ah ok

[sudden wave]

Does growth increase the range of meridians will or is it just me

[silent jetty]

Best items for chef?

[trim narwhal]

depends a little on loadout

[wicked briar]

I can't find info on it but does Prayer Beads have priority to be used by cauldrons? Every time I used it during a run it never failed to hit Beads after using some Regen Scrap.

[minor marten]

Yo i have bought ROR2 last night with both expansions for the ps5, and played a couple of games. Should i deactivate the addons in the begining or keep playing with them.

[peak jacinth]

there’s not an explicit reason to disable them. If you find all the content at once overwhelming then maybe it’s worth it to disabled them, but it’s really up to you and how you want to experience the game

[minor marten]

I see, i felt pretty overwhelmed already with everything, i think i might just play the first few days without the expanisions.

[minor marten]

Thank you

[peak jacinth]

no worries

[quasi crystal]

Is there any way to get mul-t buzzsaw easier?

[steady stone]

for preon if you want, or try to get the timer chest by using Newt to guarantee RPD in the time limit and hope for overlord, they're pretty common on RPD

[gloomy mist]

I have to to a stats project and I decided to use the ror2 sales. Does anyone have the sales from the first few years?

[steady stone]

That info typically isn't released at all costs by Steam. steamdb might have some info though
https://steamdb.info/app/632360/charts/

[high forum]

https://www.gearboxpublishing.com/press_release/risk-of-rain-2-surpasses-one-million-units-sold-in-steam-early-access/

[gloomy mist]

Thanks

[livid terrace]

is the issue with being sent to the shadow realm when joining a friends lobby fixed yet?

[lapis abyss]

Just got Seekers. What's the fastest way to unlock FS? And is Seeker reliant on Damage or mobility items?

[mellow crystal]

fastest way is to just go to bazaar every stage to try and get gilded coast in the seers, then go green portal path

[lavish jacinth]

and use sacrifice/command to get higher odds of a gold shrine

then use the geodes in the bazaar for a guaranteed green portal

[mellow crystal]

for seeker she's more on damage items but that's mostly because her kit already kinda has everything so all you really need is damage items to catch up with scaling

also holy shit fax pfp change

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the free nitro thing changed it back to my old server-specific one lol

it blinks if you hover over it

[wispy hinge]

Whats a good boss item for false son

[lavish jacinth]

are always good

[mellow crystal]

too since melee survivor

[lavish jacinth]

yep

are also decent in general if you want something different

[wispy hinge]

Ur pfp scares me

[lavish jacinth]

+ is basically an instant win too if you just wanna get carried by your items

[brittle shuttle]

little disciple is nice on fs

[lavish jacinth]

thanks

[brittle shuttle]

moreso than some of the other cast

you should always be sprinting when charging slam

and since normal primary has a relatively slow attack speed if good enough timing you can pretty much always be sprinting while using normal primary

unless you have too much attack speed

[wispy hinge]

Is getting that lunar item that replaces ur m1 giod on fs

[lavish jacinth]

nope, unless you absolutely refuse to ever get into melee range

[wispy hinge]

Seen a tier list where it was s tier

[lavish jacinth]

depends on survivor

[brittle shuttle]

the sprinter

[lavish jacinth]

visions is a dps downgrade for most of the cast, so it's mainly useful if you aren't using your primary much

with the exception of engineer, it's easier to use than his normal primary and a slight upgrade for both turrets

[wispy hinge]

Another tc 280 without captain bruh

[chrome mist]

can bottled chaos activate seed of life

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[hoary hare]

needletick or tri tip on void fiend?