ror2-game-questions

[viral sorrel]

lenses are honestly good on any proc character

[gritty musk]

I’m doing exactly this with about 5 repulsion, focus crystals
, and crow bars, even some delicate watches what am i doing wrong do i need more ?

@viral sorrel

[viral sorrel]

watches are broken so theyre noy doing anything now

[gritty musk]

I just broke them before the pic

[viral sorrel]

and for the acheivement it works on groups of enemies so try getting a large crowd

[gritty musk]

Ok

I was just doing a single enemy

[viral sorrel]

it doesnt have to be 500000% on one enemy just with one explosion

[gritty musk]

Maybe that what was it

[viral sorrel]

mhm mhm

[verbal vigil]

how would you complete [ CHEF: Its getting hot in here! Stack 20 Burn on Mithrix at Once]

[lavish jacinth]

Just use sear, the number of times it hits scales with attack speed

Anything else that inflicts burn helps too ofc

Molotov, molten perf, gasoline + forgive me please

Dunno if incinerator drones count since you're not the one applying the burn tho

[verbal vigil]

found a red item... what do i pick? ( Command is active)

[lavish jacinth]

For that achievement specifically or just in general?

[verbal vigil]

Both

i may have forgot to grab healing items

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think there are any that would specifically help with that unlock, but there's always the usual suspects + any of the sots reds

I don't think sear is affected by luck like flamethrower, although clover would get more molten perf procs if you get one

[verbal vigil]

Perf::Clover it is then...

the problem is... how am i going to find a Molten Perforator around here!?

[vestal radish]

pop or boss 15% chance drop

(tp boss)

[verbal vigil]

I GOT ANOTHER RED!!!

i have no healing items so what would you pick in that situation?

[lavish jacinth]

Options for healing reds are pretty limited, it's basically desk plant or rejuv rack. But plant doesn't work on mithrix without FMP and rack doesn't do much by itself

I would just get a different red and then take a medkit or something from your next white item

[verbal vigil]

so... what else?

i want to maximize Sear Usage

so Alien Head?

[lavish jacinth]

Alien head I guess? It's not super impactful but it's the only thing that would give you more sear

[verbal vigil]

i am using some Back up mags

its a Synergy!

[gritty musk]

@viral sorrel finally did it it took crit and laser focus tho

I needed 5 crowns bars, 5 focus crystal, 1 AP, 5 delicate watches 95% crit and laser focus

Or laser scope

Whatever that item is

[unkempt plume]

What does the portal for sirens call look like in the bazar?

[lavish jacinth]

You can tell it apart from sundered because sundered has bright blue glowing mushrooms, while sirens is just dark blue/green

[verbal vigil]

Found another red!

[knotty kettle]

Guys, is seeker's palm blast broken rn? it doesn't proc bands in my games, or I'm doing something wrong?

[mellow crystal]

yeah it's insanely broken rn
its damage just never increases from any source other than tranquility
not levelling, not damage items, nothing

[knotty kettle]

Thank you!!

[unkempt plume]

Ty

Btw I’m on stage five and I found a gold altar. If I go for aurelionite, after I get the seed will the game loop once I enter the portal or will it take me to the moon or smth? Which sounds unlikely

[mellow crystal]

it'll loop yea
primordial tp is the only way to get to the moon

[verbal vigil]

TIS A TRIUMPH!!!

[sacred ingot]

not if u play eclipse and ur only way of beating the run is through mithrix

[scenic acorn]

https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/keVwcp96h99Jll6VW?invite=cr-MSx4YVEsMjY1ODMwNDMz... Could someone explain what just happened?

[mellow crystal]

chaos due to mods currently being broken due to latest update

[verbal vigil]

are there any Ice box Builds out there for CHEF?

[verbal vigil]

Somehow just summoned and died to Mithrix 20 something times as Ravager (your mods are broken... Not all mods however, Realer cheat unlocks is still unbreakable)

[fresh shadow]

fuel cell printer + backup mag printer + lysate cell 🤤

[keen adder]

Why am I able to fight False Son again? I already killed him

[verbal vigil]

whats the goal with that build?

[fresh shadow]

spam yes chef + icebox

[river gate]

I've seen that golden dieback logbook is bugged? No radio tower appearing despite being there numerous times. What about disturbed impact? Same thing as golden dieback, never see a tower

^disregard, just saw a bug report that they're both bugged

[earnest bone]

guys what am i missing

cant sent image nevermind

does anyone have an image of the second monster logbook page completed that they could send so i know what im missing

[lavish jacinth]

You can if you get a role, #roles

[livid wedge]

#roles will let you post images

[earnest bone]

got it

[livid wedge]

Looks like void devestator, voidling and the bird control unit

And xi construct

[lavish jacinth]

They've got the devastator

Not sure what the locked one is, I have a screenshot of the complete log but I'm not at my pc

[earnest bone]

ah okay

i just have no idea what monster i have never killed, especially because i've been through every environment and played for 250 hours

[peak jacinth]

One is Xi construct right

[livid wedge]

That's really weird

[lavish jacinth]

I actually have no idea what that is

[livid wedge]

I don't have anything between grandparent and devastatot

And I have all the dlc

[peak jacinth]

modded enemy?

[lavish jacinth]

They're ordered by health, but there's nothing with health in between a devastator and grandparents

Except twisted scavs but they don't have a log

[earnest bone]

i play with qol mods so maybe it added twisted scavenger as a log

[livid wedge]

Maybe

[peak jacinth]

if that’s the case that would probably be the locked one considering its health

[wintry crag]

Is this game cross platform between Xbox and PC

[void aspen]

hi, i have a question with the multiplayer, i just can't finish a game online, its ether me getting deconnected when my friend are host, or them getting disconnected when im the host, i try a lote of things and none worked, its the only game where i have an issue this big with the connection

[earnest bone]

no

[wintry crag]

Aw man how come

[earnest bone]

cross platform servers are expensive for an indie studio

[trail kite]

wait how is false son so far back, my false son is on page 1?

also how do you have so many logs! i cant find these things to save my life

[earnest bone]

probably mods adding more logs to enemies that didnt previously have them

[trail kite]

Ah okay lol, understandable

[lavish jacinth]

It's not indie anymore, but there are other reasons crossplay isn't possible, mainly the devs having more pressing issues to work on first

And there still isn't perfect parity between platforms

[verbal vigil]

GOT MY [CHEF] MASTERY!!!

[bitter void]

j

[glass fjord]

anyone have a clue on how to get the Seeker: Scorched earth challenege where you need to get 500,00% damage with one use of her flight

[lavish jacinth]

mix lots of different damage multipliers, so you can stay in it longer, and try to hit as many enemies as possible with the blast

[glass fjord]

thanks for the advice

appreaciate it twin

[dusk sapphire]

Anyone have any advice on False son: Family Bonding

been trying it for a hot minute and the lunar spikes machine gun at the slightest touch so i keep accidentally killing him

wondering if its a case of waiting for aurelionite to be ABOUT to attack to do it

[lavish jacinth]

yeah pretty much, it's just finicky. you can also dump some of your spikes into the ground before shooting so that you don't accidentally hit him with too many

[dusk sapphire]

good idea ill try that

thanks for the advice

[wintry crag]

Dang I never knew that

[wintry crag]

How long does the lunar debuff (forgot the name) stay on him ?

[viral sorrel]

5 secs

or is it 6

[lavish jacinth]

but it resets when a new stack is added

[lavish jacinth]

yeah it's 5 at base

[fickle rapids]

What’s the challenge for false son regarding lunar ruin? I can’t remember if it’s have 40 stacks of the secondary ability or stack 40 stacks of ruin on something

[lavish jacinth]

get 40 extra spikes from growth, not counting backup mags or the 4 spikes you start with

[fickle rapids]

So you need 44 in total?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

or around 10k bonus health I think

[fickle rapids]

Ok I was real confused when I got to 40 and didn’t get the achievement

Yeah I’m at like 8k rn

[dusk sapphire]

I got it, my friend and I came up with our own strategy that ended up working

[pastel cove]

(he took all the offensive items while i sat on my ass and did 0 damage to keep the uptime)

a masterful strategy indeed

[dusk sapphire]

basically play in 2 player just pick someone to be the patsy and hang around

pick up defensive items

command sale star infinite feedback loop

[pastel cove]

got so sick of trying to do this normally we turned on command
but it did result in this screenshot
kind of funny

[fickle rapids]

Does anyone know the challenge for false son’s utility?

[brittle shuttle]

Let aurelionite kill mithrix while mithrix is inflicted with atleast one lunar ruin

[primal vector]

You can check the challenges midrun in the pause menu

[daring cloak]

Ok someone explain to me how wecho reduces like 90% of the damage of blood shrines?

Like what the hell happened there that was not 93% damage

[primal vector]

The bear?

[daring cloak]

Didnt proc

Woulda heard that squeak noise and seen the "blocked" text

[peak scaffold]

how many chests spawn in prime meridian

[primal vector]

4

[peak scaffold]

ok

is better than as chef

[flat summit]

what are the aurelionite geodes in the bazaar for

[bronze palm]

anyone know how to do the false sons family bonding challenge?

[mellow crystal]

Break three to spawn a green portal

[mellow crystal]

Bandit B&E or captain smushed but auri has to land the first hit and you have to fire a lunar spike/stake every once in a while

[hard oasis]

How...do I fix this?

[subtle patio]

what is this? it’s in Reformed Altar

[hard oasis]

I can't post the video for some reason

So for false sons new ability, the one where I have to get 40 lunar spikes. I got 43 and it's not giving me the ability

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't count the 4 that you start with, or backup mags

[hard oasis]

Is there a way to fix that?

Ooooooooooooooooh

[lavish jacinth]

it's how you unlock chef

[hard oasis]

Shit I went through a purple portal because I thought I wasn't going to be able to get it. But In that case I'm 2 awah

[subtle patio]

ah i see, didnt know if it had a feature after i unlocked chef and was feeling crazy hahah. thanks!

[hard oasis]

Got it

[brittle shuttle]

the damage reduction works on blood shrines

and all other health related stuff

[daring cloak]

Well yeah but thats not 30%

That reduced almost all of its damage

[brittle shuttle]

idk but im not complaining

[daring cloak]

On top of still having me in the out of danger state

[brittle shuttle]

it doesnt really do anything aside from protect watches on blood shrines which is really nice

[daring cloak]

I originally discovered this weird quirk with diablo but ig blood shrines too dont put you into danger and get a MASSIVE damage reduction

[brittle shuttle]

enjoy your watches!

[daring cloak]

Though I dont have the slightest idea how it actually works

[lavish jacinth]

I'm pretty sure blood shrines do bypass armor, but warped echo isn't considered armor I guess

[mellow crystal]

Yeah wecho is just a straight DR, no idea if it's multiplier or subtraction or smth else tho

[brittle shuttle]

no its just a % damage decrease

as opposed to opal which is armor

[lavish jacinth]

also the healthbar still shows 524/524? maybe that's just echo being weird though

[bronze palm]

once you get all 3 crystals in the bazzar. do you continue through the green portals?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it takes you to path of the colossus

[bronze palm]

this is refering to how to get the family bonding acheivement.

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, if you're trying to get to gilded coast, then path of the colossus isn't necessary

if you've already got halcyon seed then you can just go to mithrix
if not, keep looping until you get a gold shrine or get gilded coast in a lunar seer

[bronze palm]

oh, i understand now

[grim prism]

the "you hear thunder rumbling" message means a halcyon shrine should have spawned right?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[grim prism]

is it bugged rn, cause ive gotten that message and have searched + one time used radar scannar and havent seent he shrine

[chrome mist]

does mulyiplayer just randomly disconect anyone else during game's? its been happening ever since seekers released

[lavish jacinth]

do you have crossplay enabled?

[lavish jacinth]

afaik no, but radar scanner itself is still bugged and doesn't always show the correct icons for things

[chrome mist]

yes

[lavish jacinth]

turn it off, have the people you're playing with do the same

[grim prism]

now i got to gilded coast and i swear i hit all the beacons but still cant do damage

playing with artifact of swarm and command

nvm i found it

[slender moon]

Does anyone else randomly lag out in multiplayer? It's been happening constantly

[lavish jacinth]

turn off crossplay if it's enabled, have whoever you're playing with do the same
if not then idk

new update so possibly new bugs, but crossplay is as terrible as ever

[slender moon]

Wait really? Lemme try that, thanks!!

[wide ore]

does anyone who has family bonding know the internal name of the achievement in the text file

[dusky raven]

I’m here to corroborate this claim, I’ve also seen the text whenever I leave the bazaar when thunder was rumbling in there

For some reason it also repeats on the following stage

[bleak rain]

chat can you get gilded in bazaar at any stage

or does it need to be a specific stage

[honest badger]

yes

[loud spruce]

trying to unlock False Son, is there any consistent way to get to gilded coast before prime meridian or do i actually just have to keep bashing my head against this forever

[honest badger]

bazaar is the most common

you can also loop first

[loud spruce]

damn i was hoping to avoid having to do any of that. i have literally only seen gilded coast appear in the bazaar once with 200+ hours in the game lol

[austere bay]

you must get into the bazaar once every 10 runs then

[fast widget]

Are there gonna be hot fixes released or is SoTS completely done? Heard there were still some bugs and even new ones like Seeker's palm not critting even at 100

[spice swan]

yo so how did i just get 4 items from a chest when i only have 2 sale stars? Isn't it 2 guarenteed on 1 sale star and 3 possible on 2 sale stars?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, they announced that they're already working on more patches, we'll know more on the 9th

[lavish jacinth]

If you have 2 or more then you always have a chance for up to 5 items, it's just really tiny

The wiki has a chart for it https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Sale_Star

[trim narwhal]

sacrifice should help

also multiplayer for more interactable credits i think

[errant stone]

do chef's passive things not count as debuffs for death mark and noxious thorn?

[trim narwhal]

before this patch no, now idk 100%, but probably not

[errant stone]

i thought they should, but i haven't seen it happen

[brittle shuttle]

They said they will still throw in some fixes and tweaking here and there but no more giant dedicated rework updates

[frank tulip]

Guys wt is this sound ?

Rah why the video don't shown here, sry i'm a real noob with all these things, it's just a obs vod

[brittle imp]

is needle tick any good on false son?

[daring cloak]

If you use lunar spikes or laser of the father absolutely, if you use lunar stakes and laser burst its a bit mediocre but still worth it imo

[brittle imp]

ah alr

tbh idk how needle tick stacks but so far its helping alot

[frank tulip]

And so about my clip, someone have any explanation ?

[daring cloak]

I cant open that file

[frank tulip]

ah

wait i'll try something

[peak jacinth]

it’s newt speaking

[frank tulip]

But why when ii go to him, there is no voice anymore ?

[brittle imp]

id suggest trying to convert the file into an mp4

[frank tulip]

Yeah i was trying to do XD

[brittle imp]

so its easier to view

[daring cloak]

Yeah its bugged so the voice comes from the portal instead of the newt

[peak jacinth]

what they said ^^

[frank tulip]

Ho allright, that was so creepy to heard that for the first time for any reason XD, idk how i've never notice tbh

[frank tulip]

what you think bro ? 👀

[peak jacinth]

well it was removed from the game for a little bit iirc

so in adding it back it got bugged

[frank tulip]

For the curious

[frank tulip]

ahaha lol, okay i undertsnad a way more

Well thanks for the answer everyone

[brittle imp]

can Meridian's Will affect chronic?

[grim prism]

does anyone have as many tips as possible for doing family bonding, i feel like i keep messing up the chllenge despite doing command and not choosing anyhting that can accidentaly kill

[daring cloak]

Try to be quick and hit mithrix with one lunar spike just before auri starts lasering

[grim prism]

i feel like auri was really slow in killing last time i attempted it

so even though i kept trying to put some ruin on him i would kill him trying to keep lunar ruin on him

also is artifact of swarms good for the achivement

[brazen sluice]

hmmmm, children are spawning on verdent falls for me. is that from the new update or did one of my mods break?

[high forum]

well, all your mods would need to be updated anyways since there's a new version of the game

[brazen sluice]

usually not all of them

i did check for updates tho

[austere bay]

What do people think is the best seeker setup?

[primal vector]

Palm is really fun but crrently its damage does not scale (I still use because the mechanic is fun). Orbs are more powerful than hand

[brazen sluice]

soooooo mult's RMB is actually stupidly busted if you use it properly. hard stun locks things due to stacking stuns

its just like mando's surpressive fire. hard stuns them for like 10+ sec

[tawny raft]

Hey uh, does Recycler work on the Equipment drone? I accidently activated the drone 😭

[daring cloak]

Yes... but the drone will still try to target enemies

So for the drone to recycle something it needs to be targeting an enemy while simultaneously being aimed at the item to recycle

So youre pretty much never gonna be able to get it to recycle specific items

[tawny raft]

🤦‍♂️ welp, fml ...
ty tho

[tawny raft]

and there's no way of getting the equipment back I assume, right?

[daring cloak]

Nope

[trail kite]

every hit has a 10%+(10% per stack) on each attack to apply the collapse debuff which does a large amount of damage after a delay

its just like tri tip daggers but with collapse because it is corrupted

[trim narwhal]

it also has strange synergies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WAg_sPFW88

powermode resets its cooldown including backup mag stocks

i wouldnt call it busted but its a underrated yea

[lyric pasture]

how good is loader?

[primal vector]

Very good

It may take a bit to get the most of the mobility, but after a short time, you get a very powerful survivor

[lyric pasture]

what moves do you recommend using? im going to try them all but wonder what you recommend

[hoary sedge]

most of it is just preference

I like alt m2 and default punch + pylon but you can't really go wrong

[tawdry cairn]

Yo I’m trying to get False Suns alternate secondary “protein heavy diet” and I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten to the point to where I’ve should of got it but nothing as happened. I’m sure if I did it wrong or just a bug but I need some help.

[livid wedge]

@tawdry cairn 40 additional spikes, so 44 total

[tawdry cairn]

Ooooohhh ok thanks👍

[primal vector]

I like alt M2 because it has more uses, default shift because I get the timing of the alt right and for the special, honestly I use both.

[lyric pasture]

how much aoe does the alt special have?

[primal vector]

Not much, its for aiding a bit when in close combat or for using as mobility

[pure estuary]

Can Seeker's new Cyclone not crit? I have 11 glasses (adaptive chest mistake, oops) and a clover and I haven't seen it crit yet.

[lyric pasture]

i feel like base kit would be best to do then, the alt m2 works as a grapple still, correct?

[primal vector]

Yes, totally

[earnest bone]

children have been spawning on verdant falls for me forever

[rain ocean]

Do sale stars eventually stop working? I was running a command run to try and unlock false Son’s new M2, and my 20+ sale stars only ever yielded 2 items per chest - when I traded some in at the bazaar, they started working properly around 4 stacks again, giving me 3-5 items

[earnest bone]

the wiki doesnt have that as a bug listed so i think you might have just gotten very unlucky

[livid wedge]

It's always chance based. 20+ increases odds but it's never guaranteed

[earnest bone]

it actually can become guaranteed, 47 stacks for 3 items guaranteed, 114 for 4, and 1980 for 5

[digital tree]

does anyone know how to spawn mountains shrines with the console, been trying for hours to get a modded ability unlocked but i cant get more than 2 mountain shrines to spawn

[left trellis]

You would need to install Debugtoolkit for the console to do what you want, and the command you need is spawn_interactable. if the command doesn't autofill, you may need to find the shrine's ID using list_interactables

You'd think there would be a command for just setting the number of active mountain shrines but there isn't. no idea why

[digital tree]

thanks, would've taken me forever to figure out lol

[feral zinc]

Is there any way to guarantee an aurelionite shrine spawning?

[lavish jacinth]

Nope

[feral zinc]

💔

[lavish jacinth]

Best you can do to increase your odds is enable sacrifice and command, and go to the bazaar each stage and check if gilded coast is in one of the seers

[bronze palm]

in the challenges tab in the logbook i think its the last few in the list (the diamond page things under the challenges tab). hope this helps.

[peak scaffold]

am i ready for fs

[feral zinc]

Which false son utility is best?

[brittle shuttle]

Both are good

[earnest bone]

how do you edit in game text

[turbid whale]

is it now worth it to buy seekers of the storm, and if so, will it be included in the next steam sale?

[honest badger]

Yes, and we don't know

[gray sigil]

Question, for the CHEF alt utility unlock, does the aerial enemy requirement mean that the enemy has to be a typically flying enemy, or can it be any enemy suspended in air? Like if I use a Primordial Cube on 5 beetles, will that count? Or does it need to be something like 5 wisps?

[bronze grotto]

what is the best way to unlock the false son alt utility? I've tried 3 time and Aurelionite continues to choke the kill or kills mithrix just a the ruin duration finishes. Currently trying to do it as I eclipse climb on false son.

[lavish jacinth]

it's kinda weird, I think it technically counts any airborne enemy, but for some reason it doesn't seem work if you use primordial cube. (My best guess is that cube clumps them together so much that the game thinks they're "standing" on top of each other and thus not airborne). Chef also has to be in the air for it to count, you can't drag flying enemies to the ground and run over them

Easiest way to do it is to just gather up some flying enemies and run through them with boosted roll, because its AoE also counts

[lavish jacinth]

it's finicky, just try to apply ruin right before aurelionite attacks without damaging mithrix too much yourself. Ruin only lasts 5 seconds but it does reset if a new stack is applied, if that helps.
You could use to help aurelionite's dps a bit (preferably on an equipment drone for more uptime), or gnarled woodsprite to keep it alive if it keeps dying

[whole spindle]

do you guys have any tips on unlocking seeker's alt Utility?

[lavish jacinth]

stack a bunch of different multipliers (crowbars, crit, maybe watch, etc), use repulsion plates to stay in sojourn as long as possible, and hit as many enemies as you can when it goes off

if you use kin + swarms you can potentially guarantee a horde of many with a ton of weak enemies, which will also let you use AP rounds

[whole spindle]

alr ty

[peak scaffold]

are twisted scavs hard

[lavish jacinth]

depends on which one you get

kipkip is basically invincible, but the rest aren't too bad

[peak scaffold]

didnt know they were different

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, there are 4 variants

[peak scaffold]

how do u tell which one u get

[lavish jacinth]

they have different names

[peak scaffold]

ok

[lavish jacinth]

if you wanna see what all of them are https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Twisted_Scavenger

[peak scaffold]

also is purple portal celestial

or different

[lavish jacinth]

nope, purple portal is void

[peak scaffold]

straight to boss or no

[lavish jacinth]

celestial is like a light greenish-blue color

[lavish jacinth]

it goes to void locus I think

[peak scaffold]

oki

[bronze grotto]

Thanks, I'll have to give aurelionite more words of encouragement so that it aims better

[peak scaffold]

wipwip the wild js yeeted me from existense but i got some pretty good experience i think

[lavish jacinth]

rip

at least it's better than getting stuck fighting kipkip for the rest of your life

[somber sail]

Why does false son get attacked?

The other survivors it makes sense, even acrid, but why False Son getting hate?

[lavish jacinth]

because he smelly or something

[daring cloak]

Because he has lunar corruption and the inhabitants HATE lunar corruption

Everyone basically turned on him except aurelionite

[trail kite]

aurelionite created him but mithrix followers stabbed him during creation which corrupted him, if you've been to the shattered abodes/disturbed impact you can see the crater he created after losing it, thats why all those lunar spikes are on the stage, then he fled to the top of the hero shrine and i dont remember if he destroyed stuff along the way? All I know is he is corrupted and just like wertus said the inhabitants hate lunar corruptions since it comes from mithrix who wants them all dead

[winter barn]

why am i not getting the achievement? i only have 1 backup mag?

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't count the 4 spikes you start with

[winter barn]

:(

[lavish jacinth]

so you need 44 in total, not counting backup mags

[silver night]

Does anyone here play the game on low spec? Built a new PC minus a GPU. I have to play on a 760m APU on my Ryzen 5 8600g. Is there anyway to hit 60 fps without reducing the textures to the lowest available option?

[distant acorn]

I dealt with this for a long time: no

Unless you havent already tried lowering the graphics settings; that helped me the most

[spice swan]

is there a bug with bosses? i just started a teleporter and no boss appeared. I have aurelionite and had 3 mountain shrines

note its also like 45 mins into a monsoon run

[primal vector]

Sometimes things happen like a jellyfish spawning outside the skybox limit and dying instantly

[scenic holly]

does stronger burn counts for chef achviement to apply 20 burns on final boss

[stuck sorrel]

Does anyone know if headstomping Mithrix on his head directly is supposed to deal damage? I had a run where I was directly hitting his head but felt like I did no damage at all.

[earnest bone]

that doesnt do damage

[hoary sedge]

how far did you fall? headstompers damage is based on height

[earnest bone]

something tells me they were just jumping on mithrix's head and didnt have the head v2

[fresh umbra]

Super mario

[stuck sorrel]

Around double jump with hopo

[stuck sorrel]

Isnt that the item that prevents fall damage? Im pretty sure I had the right one

[earnest bone]

you need to hold the interact button in midair to do the slam

[stuck sorrel]

yeah i was, it even procced bands too

[somber sail]

Ah, I see. Thx

[silver night]

Tried lowering and I can get it to hit 60fps but the visuals look ugly. I guess I'll just wait it out.

[thin sinew]

how does chef scale with attack speed?

[sand hamlet]

For those who have unlocked Seekers's Reprieve ability, whats the easiest way to do it?

[daring cloak]

Stack like 10-20 crowbars and hit a large group of beetles

[wispy hinge]

Whats a good build for mercenary no dlc

[thin sinew]

as in loadouts or items?

[thin sinew]

stack repulsion armor, crowbars and focus crystals

and explode on some poor beetles

[wispy hinge]

Ye

[tawdry hearth]

How you play acrid lol

[thin sinew]

its not a yes or no question 😭

[thin sinew]

spit and run

[lavish jacinth]

I wouldn't really stack crowbars on merc, he doesn't have great burst and is better suited for procs

[wispy hinge]

Mb miss read it😭

Items

[thin sinew]

occassionally slam big guys with your shift

[thin sinew]

its for the seekers utility

[thin sinew]

if youre going melee then focus crystals, crit, speed all that good stuffs

he works fine with proc items

[lavish jacinth]

Soften up enemies with poison and leap in when you see a good opportunity (or just run around and use nothing but poison if you're lazy)

[thin sinew]

if youre playing ranged then you wanna avoid attack speed

for the sick mercenary exposed transfer tech

[lavish jacinth]

Oh I missed the reply part lol

[thin sinew]

his alt dash is really good if you get the tech off

[tawdry hearth]

And his key items?

[thin sinew]

gasoline

[tawdry hearth]

I found mags and gasoline are good

[thin sinew]

yeah those are good, wisps are great too

[lavish jacinth]

Acrid really likes multipliers to boost poison damage, and dots to finish things off

[thin sinew]

death mark is good if you have other debuffs

[lavish jacinth]

Technically you don't need multipliers but it's always nice to kill things faster

[thin sinew]

i wouldnt focus too much on crit cause his poison cant crit

[tawdry hearth]

Would it be ideal for the will o wisp to be transferred into their void counterparts?

[lavish jacinth]

And total damage procs are never bad

[thin sinew]

both works

[tawdry hearth]

Aight thx

[thin sinew]

can you play ror2 offline?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[thin sinew]

for me i cant

it just kicks you back to the menu

[lavish jacinth]

Is crossplay enabled?

[thin sinew]

ok where do i check that again

[lavish jacinth]

First page of settings

[thin sinew]

oooohh shi

[lavish jacinth]

Yep, turn that shit off

Crossplay does nothing but cause problems lol

[thin sinew]

ok now i can

thank you

[twilit blaze]

is the new chef OP?

[lavish jacinth]

Dunno about op but he's definitely good

[left trellis]

CHEF is good now
updated Seeker and False Son are arguably more OP

[lapis spoke]

idk if anyone has asked this befor but why didnt we get steam achivements for all the DLC stuff? We got some but not all

[lavish jacinth]

It's definitely been asked, there hasn't been an answer

Other than that it's not really important and they've had bigger problems to work on

[lapis spoke]

true that

[cedar mulch]

Since the new changes, what’s the current strongest chef loadout?

[raven marlin]

can anyone answer technical questions about seeker’s sojourn? it says it trades hp for damage so if i dodge the damage with a teddy bear does it still add damage? and how much does it add?

[merry swan]

anyone know if they buffed chef's proc coef with the update?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, they seem to have been buffed across the board
cleavers are 0.5 initially, 0.75 on return, and 0.25 while spinning
I think everything else is 1.0

[merry swan]

sweet, ty!

[thin sinew]

how does chef scale with attack speed?

[tawny raft]

is this a clue for the artifact puzzles? or am I trippin? it's from the Scorched Acres

[daring cloak]

It is

[lavish jacinth]

the description is a little misleading, its damage is only based on how long you're in it, specifically 500% per second. Blocking or reducing damage won't affect it

[twilit blaze]

what false son loadout are ya'll rockign with?

[lavish jacinth]

cleavers are thrown faster, sear ticks more, roll charges faster, and attack animations are faster in general

[austere bay]

Does larva corrupt future items or just the one's you have on res?

[lavish jacinth]

just the ones you have on you at the time

[austere bay]

Figured, ty for clarifying

[thin sinew]

okok thanks

[wispy hinge]

What are the beat items for mercenary no dlc

[lavish jacinth]

focus crystal is the obvious one, otherwise you can pretty much build him as a proc character

attack speed is arguably bad on him though, it makes it harder to do expose tech with his primary and has antisynergy with his secondaries

[sullen rune]

What does it mean when it says "You Hear Thunder Rumbling." Is it a family event?

[mellow bronze]

halcyon shrine on the map

[sullen rune]

ok

[mellow bronze]

not if it allows you to farm exposed like this #ror2-discussion message

never be afraid of getting attack speed as Merc. even more if you're using Eviscerate

[raven marlin]

am i crazy or does that mean you have to stay in sojourn for 1,000 seconds for this to work

or should i just be stacking runalds

[lavish jacinth]

like I said, it's arguable. If you use the tech a lot it may not be desirable, even moreso with slicing winds

[lavish jacinth]

nah

for one thing, runalds wouldn't help, since the damage has to come from sojourn

[lime scarab]

It works with multiple enemies as far as I can tell

[sullen rune]

Get 10 or so crowbars, 10 or so focus crystals, and explode in a large group. I think it counts total damage, so you want to hit as many enemies as possible

[mellow bronze]

get repulsions aswell

[lavish jacinth]

^ just stack a bunch of multipliers and hit as many enemies as you can

[sullen rune]

yeah

[lavish jacinth]

tougher times helps too

[raven marlin]

i was stacking planula teddies and repulsion because i didnt know how quickly the damage built

[mellow bronze]

i think Tougher Times is the best Sojourn item because even with as many Repulsions and Bucklers you're still getting 1 damage overtime, meanwhile Tougher Times you're not

[raven marlin]

should i stack glasses?

[mellow bronze]

yes

100% crit

[lavish jacinth]

kin+swarms will also make it even easier, and it'll guarantee a horde of many as a boss so you can use ap rounds as well

laser scope too if you happen to get a red

I don't think shaped glass helps though since it directly increases base damage, and the challenge requires a specific amount of base damage (as opposed to a set number like 1m damage on railgunner)

plus it'll reduce the overall time you can spend in sojourn

[sullen rune]

This is what I used

[fickle rapids]

How in the world do you complete the challenge for chef with hitting 5 airborne enemies

I’ve done it several times with jellyfish and it doesn’t seem to work

[sullen rune]

primordial cube

[lavish jacinth]

cube doesn't always work

[sullen rune]

yeah it doesnt work with jellyfish it seems. I tried that at first as well

[lavish jacinth]

that unlock is just janky

using boosted roll helps a lot though, because enemies hit by the AoE will count

[fickle rapids]

Boosted roll?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, using it with yes chef

it's not required though, this is how I did it

[fickle rapids]

What the hell

[mellow bronze]

can't you just use feathers while doing it

[lavish jacinth]

I would assume so

but it really doesn't like to work with cube for some reason, I literally did it twice here and it didn't register

my best guess is that the enemies are clumped together so tightly that the game thinks they're "standing" on each other and not airborne

[ripe wadi]

For false sun when it says get 40 lunar spikes from growth does it mean in total or actually 40 spikes

Cuz I had 40 spikes and didn’t unlock the ability

[trail kite]

44 total, you need 40 more than you started with and remember backup mags dont count because it says specifically gain them from growth

[ripe wadi]

I had 55 infusions and before that they were 45 bison steaks

I feel like that should’ve been more than enough then

[mellow bronze]

backup magazines don't count

[trail kite]

thats really weird, i got mine with cube and wish i got a clip of it :/ but all i did was sit around on stage one for a lot of enemies, cubed them onto a wall that i couldn't stand on and then ran into them all with a jump roll

[ripe wadi]

Never had any

I did nothing but pick up steaks and infusions

[trail kite]

ik bison steak gets less and less effective

id highly recommend picking up the stone pauldron lunar item

[mellow bronze]

just stack stone pauldron

[trail kite]

double yoru hp half your speed, gives tonsss of spikes

[raven marlin]

thanks gang

[ripe wadi]

That is a good idea though false sun already has like zero speed though

Ima need a ton of goat legs

[lavish jacinth]

he has the same base speed as everyone else and can get more just by having lunar spikes

[ripe wadi]

Really? I always felt like he feels super slow compared to everyone else

[lavish jacinth]

he gets 5% speed for every spent spike

[mellow bronze]

get them to unlock the achievement and quit the run

[lavish jacinth]

it's just because he's huge, same with mul-t

[ripe wadi]

Speaking of mul-t how come every time I play him I can never find an imp overlord not matter how far into a run I go

[lavish jacinth]

but he's one of the only two characters where stone pauldron is actually viable without needing a ton of speed already, the other being loader

[lavish jacinth]

rng be like that sometimes

[mellow bronze]

powermode mult

and double nail

[lavish jacinth]

true

[trail kite]

use your spikes up to gain move speed

it wont be exact, you'll slowly lose speed because spikes will cost more hp, but you will lose it a lot slower than half per pauldron

[ripe wadi]

I tried killing mithrax with the aurelionite and a spike but my spike killed him before that

[trail kite]

thats real, i think it took me 2 hours of looping to find imp overlords and the first one i found didn't even get killed by the equipment because it was so tanky 😭 , luckily i managed to find another on the same stage and hit it a bit first

[ripe wadi]

Not to mention the lack of equipment barrels

I find one and never again

[lavish jacinth]

the game hates you lol

[ripe wadi]

I ain’t do nothing 😭

[lavish jacinth]

they're not supposed to be rare, and equipment multishops are a thing on some stages

[trail kite]

that happend to me recently, it took 4 stages to find my first equipment barrel when i was playing with a friend :/

[lavish jacinth]

I get tons of them but only when I don't want them

[chrome glade]

So was the recent update a buff or nerf for false sun? My friend says he sucks now because it was a nerf but other people saying he’s great now. I don’t get what it actually did

[ripe wadi]

What does it mean by increase stock by growth? Does it mean I get the laser to last longer

[lavish jacinth]

he got a bit of a nerf, mainly to his primary, but he's still really, really good and if your friend says he sucks it's a skill issue lol

[mellow bronze]

it was definitely a nerf. now instead of being the best character in the game, he's now... still top 5

[chrome glade]

I didn’t know he was the best

[mellow bronze]

he had a no cooldown 3.0 proc coefficient 1500% damage ability

[lavish jacinth]

he was unquestionably the best before the nerf

[mellow bronze]

argueable from people to people about being the strongest but i think he was

[chrome glade]

I had to tell him engineer was one of best before that he was saying he also sucked

[mellow bronze]

your friend has no idea how this game works if he says Engi is bad

[lavish jacinth]

growth increases how many secondary stocks you have
or do you mean how does growth work in general

[ripe wadi]

I meant does the laser give me more spikes when I hit

[mellow bronze]

yes, both

not when hit but when cast

i think lol

[ripe wadi]

So the more I cast the more spikes I get?

[wispy hinge]

Whats a good red item for mercenary

[lavish jacinth]

it replenishes stocks, it doesn't give you more than you already had

[mellow bronze]

you should dump m2 and then use special to refill faster yes

[lavish jacinth]

hardlight afterburner, or any of the usual suspects

[ripe wadi]

Ah ok so which would be better for getting them back faster laser burst or the default laser

[lavish jacinth]

I think the burst laser is better for it currently

[mellow bronze]

because he can go high a lot with his dashes. for less cooldown. for more dashes. because he's melee

[chrome glade]

He does is thing where he bases characters off like 3 minutes of gameplay

[lavish jacinth]

the sots reds are also all solid

[mellow bronze]

the rest, all red items have the equal value on him compared to all other characters probably

[lavish jacinth]

explains why he thinks engineer and false son suck then lol

[solemn wind]

I'm almost done 100%ing the game, but I have to get Acrid's mastery and I am terrible at Acrid. Any advice for someone who's terrible at Acrid?

[mellow bronze]

get Lightflux or Eyes of Heresy and use your range with the m1 or spit

[lavish jacinth]

if you wanna make it easy for yourself you can just run around and let poison do all the work

it's a pretty boring way to play him, but effective

look for multipliers to boost poison damage too, etc.. They're not strictly required but killing things faster is always nice

[solemn wind]

Oh yeah ofc, but lunar rerolls are expensive and I don't like artifact of command, trying to find other strategies rn cause just waiting for a run where one of those pop up is getting frustrating, yk?

[mellow bronze]

if you want to play better at melee Acrid there isn't really much we can say instead of letting poison do all the work, use these lunars i mentioned or getting better at judging situations and knowing enemies to help you know when to engage and disengage

[lavish jacinth]

it's also good to get DoTs to finish off enemies, gasoline is especially good at that

[mellow bronze]

going for Newt altars every stage and doing no rerolls will give you a high chance of encountering these items with consistency

[lavish jacinth]

and yeah, playing acrid aggressively takes practice and good gamesense, you have to know when it's safe to leap or out of a fight

the nice thing with acrid is that he's pretty much the least item-reliant survivor in the game, poison doing %health damage means you'll always have consistent damage output and can focus purely on surviving

[solemn wind]

Yeah my big issue is that I tend to play pretty quickly and aggressively and try to comb through a zone and move on within 5 minutes, and that worked for literally every other character's masteriesbut it is just not how Acrid works

[mellow bronze]

wdym with "zone*

[solemn wind]

Level. Zone. From spawn to teleporter

[lavish jacinth]

okay, that might be part of the problem

it's always better to full-clear

[mellow bronze]

you should be more comfortable with getting past 5 minutes to get more items

[lavish jacinth]

a good rule of thumb is to get everything and try to leave with more items than minutes

and it's okay to spend time using printers and scrappers and such. But you really wanna make the most of every stage, because difficulty scales with stage count as well as time

[solemn wind]

I do more or less full-clear! Very quickly!! I'm not a noob, I've gotten most of the unlocks. My issue is that Acrid fights slowly and explores slowly, which makes my usual lightning bouncing around a pain. I'm having trouble with Acrid, not RoR2, the attrition thing he does is what I'm having trouble figuring out how to use

Normally I focus on very quickly getting a lay of the land, luring enemies to one place far away from an altar of blood, using the altar, grabbing some items and healing up, fighting the cluster i gathered, then using that to quickly grab all the stuff I found and moving on

[lavish jacinth]

fair enough
saying that you're following the 5 minute rule is one of the fastest ways to trigger a ror2 veteran lol

up there with "shields remove osp"

[mellow bronze]

Acrid certainly does not explore slowly with how many leaps he has and how much it scales with movement speed

[solemn wind]

I am one, bud

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah, Acrid has very good stage traversal, and his passive dot damage means he can just spit on a group of enemies and move on instead of having to stick around and fight

[lavish jacinth]

I'm just saying, it's a habit lmao

Listen, I hang out in here a lot, I usually have to explain the item-per-minute thing like 2 or 3 times a week lol

[solemn wind]

Alright so don't sweep people up and don't stand and fight, spread some DoTs around and move on, then come back to the wounded ones when I need some cash, got it

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much

Drones are especially helpful too, they'll lag behind and finish off stuff for you. Same if you get a couple stacks of gasoline

[solemn wind]

Yeah I get that. I've got a lot of time in this game and have gotten into a pretty steady "Every item on the stage within 5 minutes" flow. I got this game as a gift from someone who was Very Important to me and it's got a special place in my heart and has turned into more or less part of my daily routine for A While now. I don't follow the give up after 5 minutes thing, I follow the make a plan and move fast enough that it'll only take you 5 minutes to get everything rule

[solemn wind]

Drones are such good QoL and it's always so annoying with new players convincing them that yes they should be getting drones but no they shouldn't be counting on drones, those guys'll just sweep up the last scraps for you and that is important

Thanks for the help!

[lavish jacinth]

Oh one other thing, do you know about sprint cancelling acrid's m1?

[solemn wind]

Nope! I do know that I have arthritis and can't do most cancels, which made the merc a pain (I ended up going for the masterful strategy of finding Wungus and the Opinion on stage one XD), but I'd be curious to give it a try

[lavish jacinth]

ah

well it's pretty simple if you wanna try it, just hold m1 and tap sprint immediately after each hit, it'll cancel the animation and skip to the next hit in the combo

[wispy solar]

captain auto shotgun my beloved

[lavish jacinth]

if you do it right it can roughly double the dps and healing from his primary iirc

[solemn wind]

Oh nice!

[lavish jacinth]

also nice to see another drone enthusiast, I hate how much they get overlooked. Healing and equipment drones have carried some of my runs lol

[mellow bronze]

i always take that for granted when speaking with other people about this game

[solemn wind]

They just make everything a little bit more convenient

It's great

[hollow field]

does this achievement work?? i swear i just did it multiple times and simply didn't get it

[quasi crystal]

Anyone have any tips for the Seeker 500,000% damage util skill?

[solemn wind]

Crowbars

[mellow bronze]

do it in a crowd of enemies and stack the usual good Sojourn items and don't use shaped glass

[quasi crystal]

no shaped glass why?

i thought that made it easier

[mellow bronze]

shaped glass does not increase your damage in the way it helps

[solemn wind]

Because having more health to trade for damage means more damage

[quasi crystal]

noted thx

[mellow bronze]

it increases your base damage instead of your %damage which makes 0 progress towards the achievement

[quasi crystal]

ahh

[mellow bronze]

i'm in the belief that drones are insanely powerful. having played so many runs and i can definitely feel a difference when they are there in later stages and when they are not.]
there have been moments when i have Pluoripotent and i want to kill myself for void items but the drones are distracting enemies too much for that

[quasi crystal]

throw yourself off the cliff?

[mellow bronze]

i was trying to do that aswell but i had many healing items too

what i did was just going to next stage where enemies did more damage

[lavish jacinth]

it's just kinda jank, I posted some clips earlier that might help

[lavish jacinth]

here

[hollow field]

where?

[mellow bronze]

#ror2-game-questions message

[hollow field]

THAT'S what i'm supposed to do??

[lavish jacinth]

it's not that hard

I literally did it in under a minute in that clip, not counting the time spent resetting to get kin with wisps

and it's even easier with boosted roll, you don't even have to directly hit them

[honest badger]

works for me

you don't even need to use artifacts

you can just kill everything that isn't wisp

[hollow field]

okay i got it lol

that was weird

[mellow bronze]

nice

[ripe wadi]

How am I supposed to hit 5 flying creatures as chef

[mellow bronze]

#ror2-game-questions message

[ripe wadi]

I don’t have that much control with it it’s way to sensitive to turning

[lavish jacinth]

do it with boosted roll then #ror2-game-questions message

[daring cloak]

You can just use boosted roll into a crowd of enemy

enemies*

God I am so tired Ive been analysing the trailer for hours without a break

[solemn wind]

Great pfp, love that game

[ripe wadi]

I can only charge it

[daring cloak]

Peak game

[daring cloak]

Wdym just release the button right away

You dont have to hold it all the way

[ripe wadi]

Well I thought that was boosted roll

[lavish jacinth]

it is

as in boosted with yes chef

[wispy hinge]

Can void enemies spawn without having the dlc

[daring cloak]

Only void reavers

[lavish jacinth]

Also, is it really?
Genuinely asking, I sort of assumed it would be easier to handle with a controller if anything

[ripe wadi]

Nah I turn slightly to the right and go completely off course also I get a slight bounce when I hit something so it makes it even harder if they aren’t lined up

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, the bounciness is annoying

[ripe wadi]

I’ve gotten 4 in a row but bounce over the last once

So annoying I’ve got hoopa feathers to help

I finally did it

Only took like 30 wisps to be in the same area for it

[viral crest]

whats the chance of a radio scanner spawning on a stage

[lavish jacinth]

it's impossible to calculate an exact chance due to how spawn credits work, but they're fairly uncommon

enabling command and sacrifice helps their spawnrate though

[forest linden]

Do prayer beads contribute to false son growth?

[daring cloak]

Yes

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[forest linden]

Sick

Thank ya

[solemn wind]

I'm pretty sure they're the best thing for it other than stone flux pauldrons

[twin valley]

would something like, say an atg, crit if an enemy was positioned behind you while you were facing ahead

like theyre stood behind you while youre facing forward
i know you can hemorrhage with the knife this way

[lavish jacinth]

you do have to be positionally behind the enemy iirc

[twin valley]

you can backstab an enemy by being in front of it
idk if atg was the best example but basically. since the camera is technically behind the enemy and the knife hitbox can collide with them it would crit and cause hemorrhage

[lavish jacinth]

it's only a flat health increase so it's comparable to infusions. I think pearls and growth nectar become better once you start getting higher amounts of hp

[twin valley]

its just a niche thing but i was wondering how far it went

[lavish jacinth]

I've tested it before and it doesn't really work

because proc effects inherit crit status from the attack that procced them, bandit's passive can't change an atg missile to be a crit if it wasn't gonna be a crit already

[lyric pasture]

what would you guys say is the best moves for acrid?

[lavish jacinth]

also tried it by throwing an FMP with willowisp behind an enemy and then standing in front of them, that didn't work either

[lavish jacinth]

full default, but bite is decent if you like playing meleecrid

[twin valley]

id personally say all default but there's plenty of fun to be had in experimenting with the alts

[lavish jacinth]

and you can pick blight if you wanna make the meta nerds angry

[lyric pasture]

ive only just recently started playing and i gotta say i like how all basic is usually all viable, very nice qol

[twin valley]

its fun to mix and match the abilities

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, default is "best" but play whatever you think is fun

[sweet mist]

for the seeker quest that needs you to get 500000% damage on the soujourn, does crit count for it or not

[lavish jacinth]

it counts all direct damage multipliers except shaped glass, so yeah

[sweet mist]

oh ok

so i shouldve have taken 1 glass

[lavish jacinth]

and it adds up the total if you hit multiple enemies

[sweet mist]

should i get the red that adds more crit damage?

[lavish jacinth]

yea

[sweet mist]

okthanks

[lyric pasture]

can you make acrids poison stronger or not? if no what is the ideal items i should look out for?

[twin valley]

i would get brilliant behemoth also

[lavish jacinth]

behemoth doesn't work because it's a separate damage source

the damage has to be from sojourn specifically

[twin valley]

ohh

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's affected by damage multipliers

etc

[sweet mist]

whatever the things that give him more right clicks are also good

[lyric pasture]

ah thanks, im going for obliteration, should i focus on ukulele and items like that or damage

[lavish jacinth]

ideally get both

[twin valley]

aoe is a must, gasoline and wil o wisp makes wiping out crowds a lot easier

and noxious thorn if you have sots

[lavish jacinth]

mixing multipliers is always better than stacking one thing

[lyric pasture]

thanks for the advice

[sweet mist]

ik i should do this but i kinda wanna do it on newt

i mean i did for railgunner so its kinda fitting

[lavish jacinth]

you can try, it's way harder to do it that way

[mellow bronze]

Newt has armor, that will reduce the damage you deal and i feel like it would be annoying building Sojourn damage in that small room

[sweet mist]

true

[subtle flame]

are seeker's new alts good

[daring cloak]

Reprieve yes palm blast no

[subtle flame]

how is palm blast worse than the base move

[daring cloak]

Palm blast's damage is very bugged currently

[subtle flame]

oh sad

[daring cloak]

It doesnt scale with levels

[left trellis]

it also can't crit. it's weird
there's a mod out to fix it for the time being

[subtle flame]

so when they drop a hotfix itll be better than her default?

[daring cloak]

And im not sure if it scales with items either

[daring cloak]

Maybe? I'd still say meditate is better overall

Giant hitbox, decent damage and heals for life

[lavish jacinth]

palm blast also can't revive or give saving grace

[subtle flame]

whats saving grace

[lavish jacinth]

it's an effect that meditate gives when you hit 7 stacks of tranquility, it's basically a free elixir and buffs all of your stats by 7% while you have it

[subtle flame]

isnt that the only reason to even get tranquility???? 😭

[mellow bronze]

really?

like how

[subtle flame]

palm blast should do that

[mellow bronze]

does it simply
not give it?

you pierce the enemies and... nothing happens?

[lavish jacinth]

you get tranquility

[mellow bronze]

but the tranquility doesn't give the buffs?

[lavish jacinth]

no, tranquility itself still gives all of its usual buffs

[sweet mist]

is there any lunar items i should grab?

[subtle flame]

placebo tranquility
thank you gearbox...

[mellow bronze]

LMAO

[lavish jacinth]

but saving grace is an extra buff on top of that

[subtle flame]

itd be cool if it just takes more stacks to get saving grace from palm blast since its easier to gain stacks w/ palm blast
thatd make sense

[lavish jacinth]

there aren't any that would really help, other than maybe purity or light flux just for convenience

[sweet mist]

what about the tonic?

[lavish jacinth]

same problem as glass, it buffs base damage instead of being a separate multiplier

[sweet mist]

oh

[lavish jacinth]

oh wait, might work

I forget that thing exist lol

[sweet mist]

does it stack well?

or nah

[lavish jacinth]

it significantly increases the radius but not the damage buff

[sweet mist]

i could stack it like once

[lavish jacinth]

maybe, I think it would pretty much be a straight upgrade if it gave saving grace. The whole idea is that you give up some defense for much better offense

but it's pretty hard to compare them with palm blast being bugged atm

[mellow bronze]

i don't think it would be a straight upgrade given how meditate has insane aoe

[fair sequoia]

is the shield or thermal harpoons better

[quasi crystal]

is the Yes Chef m1 proc coeeficient the same as the regular m1? or does it have it's own

[mellow bronze]

the same

[lavish jacinth]

harpoons generally a lot better

[mellow bronze]

majority of the community agrees that harpoons is better but i think they are sidegrades

[solemn wind]

Thermal harpoons. Shield is basically nothing

Just dodge

[lavish jacinth]

harpoons basically become a second primary, shield occasionally has its moments but it has a lot of problems as well

[iron tendon]

i havent played in several months, which red would yall recommend for false son

[mellow bronze]

i can't think of any special synergy of any red items for false son

[lavish jacinth]

Growth nectar contributes to growth, provided you can keep 4 buffs going consistently

[mellow bronze]

probably so you can always get your 1.5 proc coefficient from m1 > m2 slam

[lavish jacinth]

and there's always the usuals + any of the sots reds

[subtle flame]

is seeker even good

[mellow bronze]

she is one of the strongest characters in the game rn

[subtle flame]

what even got buffed?

[mellow bronze]

i think safe to say she is at least top 3

1 revive every stage if you get full tranquility, unkillable Sojourn strat and meditation severely buffed to have massive AOE

[lavish jacinth]

a bunch of stuff

[solemn wind]

Growth nectar. Just growth nectar. Can't go wrong with the dagger, the coil, the drone parts, or the clover (clover's always great cause it gets you more reds XD)

[lavish jacinth]

oh and soul spiral does 50% more damage now, they forgot that in the patch notes

[subtle flame]

wdym unkillable sojourn

[mellow bronze]

you are unkillable inside Sojourn

[solemn wind]

Oh does meditation actually do damage now?

[mellow bronze]

Meditation does a lot of damage and at max tranquility you get something like full tp radius range

from the explosion

[solemn wind]

AND IT HAS AN AOE BIG ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY MATTER?!

I need to play Seeker again, I haven't since the update

[mellow bronze]

she was always op as hell but this update solidified that even more

[subtle flame]

she still does no damage atleast from me playing

[mellow bronze]

use alt m2 and meditation

even if you don't

that's wrong lol she does plenty of damage even if you use her "worst" skills

[solemn wind]

Nah her primary damage was terrible pre-update even with full tranq

[mellow bronze]

the worse skill is probably alt special that is pretty bad

[lavish jacinth]

alt special is garbage atm but it's also bugged and doesn't scale damage with your level

[mellow bronze]

your primary ways of dealing damage as Seeker isn't m1

[solemn wind]

No but if I wanted to wait for cd I'd play Art

[mellow bronze]

m1 is more like a tool to deal with flying ones only

[subtle flame]

is the alt m4 good?

[mellow bronze]

idk what m4 is

[subtle flame]

wait i mean alt utility

[mellow bronze]

alt utility is pretty good, it has insane AOE control and mobility but Sojourn is still the best ability bc the scaling potential is too big

but it's strong enough for you not to feel bad for not picking Sojourn imo

[solemn wind]

Sojourn is insane

[mellow bronze]

yeah

i also use m4 for utility lol

[solemn wind]

Seeker is op if you're patient and want to gimmick the game, just doesn't rly work great for playing it straight, yk?

And I like that, I think that was a good decision

[mellow bronze]

i don't think you need to be patient to play Seeker

[solemn wind]

Patient I don't think is rly a great word

[mellow bronze]

Acrid and Artificer are the patience characters i think

[solemn wind]

Idk I'm very sick rn and a little delirious from a fever XD

[mellow bronze]

or even Huntress

[lavish jacinth]

Seeker is more of a setup-based character

[mellow bronze]

yeah well said

also using alt utility on Seeker can be a nice choice if you want to use Safer Spaces and Shrimp since you get damaged from Sojourn

so it has it's advantages

[iron tendon]

what would yall rate false son. I would rate him triple S+ for a fun rating but idk much about actual power.

[mellow bronze]

he is very strong

[lavish jacinth]

Easily top 5

not as busted as he was before but still very, very good

[solemn wind]

Setup, care, thought, aloofness/floatiness

[solemn wind]

He is sooooooooo fun

[iron tendon]

actually is there an item tier list for false son cause i feel like im taking a lot of bison steak, while not being sure if it's actually the best choice

[solemn wind]

I have no idea about power, I always play him stupidly so he's terrible when I play him

[mellow bronze]

i really like playing Seeker because i feel exactly like her archetype design that is a close range punching monk and False Son aswell because it makes me feel like a super villain by jumping into the sky, summoning thunder and using laser eyes

and it helps that they are insanely strong lol

[lavish jacinth]

steak is useful on him but probably not the best choice, it's still a terrible white item lol. But he pretty much works with everything

[iron tendon]

yknow i actually used to think that going midair with slam didnt do anything, but i would always dash into the air beforehand cause i thought it looked cool

then i found it that midair slam actually does do something

[mellow bronze]

you can build False Son like any other character except Infusion and Steak is a bit better than usual

[lavish jacinth]

and stone flux is actually good

[mellow bronze]

yeah

[solemn wind]

But big number go haha

[iron tendon]

oh damn i forgot stone flux was an item, might have to consider taking it so i can have a trillion charges of spike and laser burst

[solemn wind]

(Steak is garbage, if that 25 max health is saving your build it's still not surviving the next zone)

[mortal yoke]

if I, theoretically, have the artifact of glass on and, theoretically, want to pick up a lot of shaped glass, is the number to stay under still 128 or is it a new number?

[lavish jacinth]

it's useful for like the first 5 minutes of a run, maybe

[iron tendon]

idk if alt laser is the best choice, but it feels much more fun for some reason

[mellow bronze]

Void Band with stakes is probably better with him aswell because you can group a bunch of enemies and summon a bunch of thunder to hit every single enemy inside

[lavish jacinth]

with glass artifact it's 124 I think

[mortal yoke]

thank you so much

[solemn wind]

Oh yeah it's great and because spending spikes speeds you up it doesn't slow you down nearly as much!

[solemn wind]

Yeah until you find a scrapper XD

[mellow bronze]

it must build the debuff insanely high by using that on stationary tp bosses

[iron tendon]

my blind ass literally runs past every scrapper because i forget they exist... that or im playing command

[solemn wind]

I do not have the patience for command

[subtle flame]

palm blast looks so sick aswell i hope it gets fixed/buffed

[mellow bronze]

same

[subtle flame]

id play false son if it wasnt for the animations looking SO janky and rushed

it just really does not look good

[mellow bronze]

i think his animations are good now imo

[iron tendon]

everyone hates command until they have 20 infusions on false son

[mellow bronze]

but i understand

[subtle flame]

when i tried it it didnt change

[lavish jacinth]

He feels a little clunky but you get used to it

I've also seen some bug reports of animations not interpolating and getting cut off weirdly so that may get fixed too

[solemn wind]

I like how clunky he feels

[subtle flame]

yea thats the main issue i have

[solemn wind]

I've spent most my life gaming on computers other ppl threw away cause they stopped working and even now that I have a rly good one I don't think I'll ever understand the popularity of not being able to play games or characters because the graphics or animations are bad

I'm honestly pretty glad for that. Because it means I can play the False Son. ANd he is so clunky and stupid and unga bunga and fun

What character do people enjoy the most for DoT builds?

[iron tendon]

tough question, haven't played in forever. i do remember last time i played i liked using bandit with like 20 million backup mags though

[lavish jacinth]

hard to pass up bleed stacking on commando or mul-t

[fair sequoia]

can i get rid of tonic affliction in any way?

[iron tendon]

gesture of the drowned + tonic + a ton of fuel cells is probably your best bet

[lavish jacinth]

nope, affliction is permanent

[fair sequoia]

sadge

[lavish jacinth]

best you can do is get perma uptime on tonic to negate the effect

[fair sequoia]

how would i do that?

[lavish jacinth]

4 stacks of , or 1 gesture and 3 fuel cells (any combo that adds up to 4 works as long as there's at least one gesture)

[fair sequoia]

oh ok

should be easy because i'm using artifact of command in this run i'm in right now

[solemn wind]

It's a really neat trick! Def worth doing if the opportunity presents itself! Please remember it's just a core stat boost and doesn't have to be the end goal of literally every build, a lot of newbies get stuck on that one trick and never do another build and get frustrated

[fair sequoia]

i swear to god i had gesture of the drowned unlocked but i apparently don't

[solemn wind]

Just chase some crabs off cliffs you'll get it

[fair sequoia]

what do i even need to do to unlock it?

[velvet lintel]

any tips for unlocking seeker's alt utility?

[solemn wind]

Chase some crabs off cliffs

[fair sequoia]

no like

what is the actual achievement for it

[lavish jacinth]

stack a bunch of different damage multipliers (crowbar, crit, focus crystal, laser scope, etc), use repulsion plates and tougher times to tank sojourn's damage for longer, and hit as many enemies as you can with it

shaped glass does NOT help though because it's a base damage increase, and having less health means you can't stay in sojourn as long

[velvet lintel]

oh so it's not a burst damage thing?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you just need to do a total of 500,000% in one hit

[solemn wind]

The one for chasing crabs off cliffs

[lavish jacinth]

Kill 20 Hermit Crabs by chasing them off the edge of the map

[fair sequoia]

ohh ok

[lavish jacinth]

only doable on post-loop titanic plains

[lavish jacinth]

you can also use 7 fuel cells for permanent uptime, but you'll have to activate it manually

[fair sequoia]

oh ok

[velvet lintel]

does gasoline help

[lavish jacinth]

no, the damage has to come from sojourn specifically

so bands or behemoth won't help either

[oak granite]

i just stacked crit, crowbars, and watches for a bit and got it

[lyric pasture]

why do like no reds spawn in my monsoon run? are they removed in that dificulty or is it just luck issue

[fresh umbra]

Luck issue

The only things that would help (i think) are sale star (mainly for legendary chest) and chance doll (for chance shrines)

[lavish jacinth]

rusted key and shipping request form, kinda

[fresh umbra]

Oh yea true

[lavish jacinth]

and there's the guaranteed stage 4 red ofc

[solemn wind]

Doesn't the clover also help with loot rolls?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[lyric pasture]

what would be the best to get for obliterating with acrid?

[lavish jacinth]

best red? or just items in general

[fresh umbra]

The easiest way for me personally was getting purity (and maybe visions of heresy)

Purity quadruples the speed of his m2

[lyric pasture]

reds mainly but if you know the best in general that would be nice

[lavish jacinth]

is pretty much an automatic carry, especially paired with

could also do for automatic crowd clear or to boost poison

[lyric pasture]

my main struggle is around wave 7 where its going well then just lose all my hp at once really, any recommendations about that?

[lavish jacinth]

Just stay mobile, let poison do damage for you and focus on dodging

Poison damage isn't very fast (at least not without multipliers) but it's about as reliable as it gets considering it's %health damage, so Acrid isn't overly reliant on items

[solemn wind]

Weird! I've always gotten way more reds when I've had clover

[frank sluice]

could be because Clover's so good you end up living longer and looting more

[solemn wind]

I mean I'm comparing deicide runs to deicide runs here not deicide runs to zone 1 death runs

[trim narwhal]

how many times do you find clover

low sample

[solemn wind]

Oh yeah I know I was just surprised

Just a "wow that's weird!"

[trail kite]

are void seeds bugged? ive done a few loops and im starting to run into tons of seeds that say 1 creature left but don't ping it like they should and i have tons of aoe stuff that should pick it off but dont?

[lavish jacinth]

it's definitely possible, especially if you're multiple loops in when the spawns start to get a little glitchy

[lament mist]

Does anyone know if the demons and crab bug is still on switch?

[trail kite]

ive got a double seed on this one so half the chests in the stage are just not possible to reach 😭

[lavish jacinth]

Pretty sure that got fixed ages ago

[lament mist]

I’ve been on Xbox for awhile mainly for friends but I have way more eclipse runs done on switch so with the switch 2 coming soon I’m hoping for an upgrade

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I forget if it was in the patch notes at some point but there aren't any bug reports about it

[frosty crypt]

Hey never experienced any network leaking? but with the last update my internet goes from 600 download to 30... anybody have solutions or also just experiencing this?

[fickle rapids]

Does the chef challenge for the stacks of burn on Mithrix also work if it’s ignite instead of burn?

[lavish jacinth]

burn and ignite are treated the same afaik so it should work

[trail kite]

There are some weird noises in the bazaar, it sounds like an amphibian or frog creature trying to say something? anyone have any clue what that is

[lavish jacinth]

Newt?

[trail kite]

its loudest when im near the blue portal tho, moving into the shop makes it disappear completly

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, that's a bug

the sound is supposed to come from Newt

[trail kite]

ah okay lol, jumpscared me when i entered

[trail kite]

mithrix just one tapped me in his 3rd stage, never happened before does anyone know how he did that? the wiki doesnt say anything about a one shot ability

[mellow bronze]

how did he one tap you

slam and pizza can onetap you but swings don't

[trail kite]

I was srunning artifact of command so I had 29 clovers + some stun chance which basiscally perma stunned him, and then he broke out of it at about 1/2 hp and i was plenty far from him so he mustve shot something at me? I went from over 1k hp to -1000, popped a potion but my transmitter didnt even go off

10k hp*

[mellow bronze]

you can't stun Mithrix, unless you were rooting him with Tentabauble

[mellow bronze]

so he shot some spikes at you at that distance. these deal a lot of damage yeah

when you're far from Mithrix he will shoot spikes at you

[trail kite]

apologies, i think it was actually a root yeah

[trail kite]

dang, i didn't know they did 11k tho lol

I was at lvl 99, had been in the run for 2 hours so he was max strength, but still didn't expect that kinda damage

[mellow bronze]

no amount of items will make you fully unkillable
unless you're stacking lysate on merc, abusing Sojourn or instant recharge Safer Spaces

[trail kite]

i just realized i had safer spaces + opal + echo? he mustve hit me with multiple then but why didn't it proc my transmitter or anything?

^all active at the time he hit me

[mellow bronze]

he shot spikes at you, a lot of them

also idk how transmitter didn't proc

[trim narwhal]

does special scaling still scale dmg past lv 99?

[mellow bronze]

i've heard that yes it does

[trim narwhal]

otherwise cracked amounts of hp on false son can do the trick for unkillable, k nvm then

[mellow bronze]

you will need another person to confirm that too because i'm not so sure about that

[trim narwhal]

ah okay

then their damage will scale exponentially with stage count / linearly with time

actually, if you have enough planula to fullheal your whole hp bar, does that make u immortal since u have osp? you get reduced to 10% then back to 100% from planula?

[fervent swan]

whats up with the gilded torches in the lunar bazaar?

[trim narwhal]

use them all for sots portal

[lethal lark]

haven't bought seekers of the storm yet and considering it; is the seeker a fun character when playing solo? Want to know if I'm paying for 2 characters or 3

[fringe fiber]

roll or oil spill

[fervent swan]

yes, she can heal and rez herself

[cinder spear]

is there a way i can re-lock all my items and characters kinda like i had just bought the game? i want to restart from scratch

[mellow crystal]

Make a new profile, top-right of the main menu

[cinder spear]

thanks

[blissful reef]

can chef proc bands without shuriken?

[trim narwhal]

yes

[fast widget]

Was scrolling on the new Alloyed Collective post sifting through the doomposters and saw a comment asking if they'll change/fix the drone ai, and a reply saying that them porting the console version over broke it. Can someone give me a rundown of before and after?

[fringe fiber]

is there a way to make oil spill faster or traverse further

[trim narwhal]

i think i saw tech with jump pads

specifically ones that send u horizontally far, oil spilling onto them conserves that speed for next jumps

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565729054620385280/1369482928203108373/2025-05-06_17-31-57.mp4?ex=681ffa5d&is=681ea8dd&hm=f53876eb64f9eb76b19329e2b00166573532d1be0b5710d04355dee4e447020a&

there could be more tech, havent really tried it myself or looked into spill stuff

movespeed probably naturally makes it go farther as well i assume

[scarlet vessel]

is chance doll affected by luck

[deft ridge]

im trying to do the family bonding challenge for false son, before i got him i was getting halcyon shrines on stage 2 after taking a green portal on stage one, but i have done about 20 runs since the last time ive seen a halcyon on stage 2 green portal (the chef stage) anyone know what could be happening?

and also, everytime ive gotten a gold portal, it has been on the stage that makes the run loop. its so frustrating because when i get to mithrix after looping i just kill him too quickyl for the abilitie unlock or i get one shot by him lol im losing my mind

[wispy hinge]

What lunar items are good

[primal vector]

Even if you go there preloop, you should curate your build so yo dont kill phase 4 Mithrix. Avoid certain items. It requires some effort, but FS is powerful enough by himself so pull it off

[primal vector]

Only for things that are % based like bandoliers

[scarlet vessel]

would purity/57 leaf affect chance doll?

[primal vector]

It depends, many of them are situational, but a few are mostly powerful. For example drowned doesnt have much of a drawback, and trancesdance can be a big push to your HP. One corpsebloom can also work very well sometimes

Doll activates your on death iteam. The ones that always activates like gasoline, wisp or deskplant are not affected by luck. The only one I can remember now to be chance based is bandolier, that one is affected by luck

[steady stone]

seems like it's affected by luck yeah

it is concerning though that not every single one was an upgrade with 1000 clovers, but that might just be gearbox magic considering it was most

[proper meteor]

that looked like every single one in the vid you sent

unless you mean outside of the vid you sent

[steady stone]

i did a little before that one too, you can see in the background, i think 1-2 rolls weren't upgraded

[proper meteor]

alright

I shall look again. I looked again and can only see greens and reds so I don't think there are any bugs related to the luck there

[primal vector]

Oh, chance doll, I was locked on cursed doll, I am so sorry

[hollow venture]

Does Oil Spill feel underwhelming to anyone else?

The only thing I really like it for is the verticality Chef previously lacked

Roll just feels so much better especially with being able to move while charging it

[young geyser]

how do I unlock new seeker ability

utility ability, surely I dont need to spend 16 minutes in sojurn?

[primal vector]

No, the main thing for me is that it doesnt have to be in one enemie, if they explosion hits 5 enemies, all add up

Apart from that crowbar, focus crystal and armor armor

[elfin zodiac]

what are the breakables beneath the newt cave (towards the logbook/vields entrance)?
I've found 2 so far, in different spots on different runs and can't remember if it's a new thing or not

they kinda look like smaller versions of the stone pillars in golden coast/prime meridian

[placid mauve]

If you find all three it spawns a green portal

[honest badger]

I haven't confirmed this information myself but somebody tested and said you can inf farm with Transcendence

you could just wait in sojourn for a few minutes and blow a horde up

[elfin zodiac]

oh, that's cool

so it just takes you to the path of the colossus?

[honest badger]

yep

[amber merlin]

yo is getting a white screen after dying with tonic buff active a common bug?

[elfin zodiac]

is that a new thing? I don't remember seeing those pillars

[honest badger]

it was added in phase 2 of the roadmap

they spawn randomly and in really annoying places if you enter from the first two stages

[elfin zodiac]

weird

anyways, thanks, my mates and I were looking for them yesterday and just couldn't find more than 1

[sudden wave]

what’s chefs best loadout?

[slow urchin]

Chat, tips on how to complete a run? Got to Mithrix only once

Should I loop or just go straight up to mithrix?

[slim spoke]

LEARN. THE. PATTERNS. That's the most important thing to learn when you try to complete a run, especially Mithrix.
I suggest you to reduce the difficulty if you want to unlock something unless it requires you to do it (Mastery skins are the only thing that applies atm)
Also, except Mithrix, you can loop the run if you feel like your build is lackluster, always helps. Just interact with the Primordial Teleporter's antennas (the one on Sky Meadow/Helminth Hatchery) and you'll know you are gonna loop if the antennas align

[slow urchin]

I never finished a run before so I honestly wouldn’t like for the first complete to be on easy

Only thing I would benefit from finishing the run on easy is the achievement and captain

[slim spoke]

It's okay. Rogue-likes aren't designed to be easy anyway.

Also,
a) do you want to be further spoiled?
b) have you got through Mithrix's two (and a mobspawn filler) phases?

@slow urchin

[slow urchin]

I know the phases, plus I actually got to false son final phase on one run

[slim spoke]

oh ggs

better learn his patterns then, you dont wanna get whooped with your own items right?

[slow urchin]

Also what is the benefit in having lunar items? I got one that slowed me down to a crawl

[slow urchin]

Isn’t that phase just shooting him to get your stuff back

[slim spoke]

they got one upside and one downside, varying in intensity but never the same level for both of them

[slim spoke]

but he CAN AND WILL use them (Empathy Cores included)

(but you can still use equipments sooooo missles go brrrr)

[slow urchin]

Also I see lots of people saying that time matters

[slim spoke]

Difficulty increases over time, generally 2.5 minutes per monster level on Monsoon

Higher monster level = More mobs, more variants, more elite spawns, etc

[slow urchin]

But do I like loot the level or speedrun?

[slim spoke]

the general consensus is to full loot early on

i dont suggest speedrun cuz it feels like a slog to get cash, especially on stage 4, where the GUARANTEED big golden chest that drops red items (if youre in siren's call/sundered grove) takes 10x a normal chest to open