ror2-game-questions

[livid wedge]

Scope adds 100% to crits, which is only a 50% increase in crit damage

True. Armor reduction is more effective when the thing has base armor

I believe it's calced as 2 - 100/(100-armor) for negative armor damage bonus

[nimble night]

any tips on how to deal with mithrix on captain, feel like unless I get 500 feathers im kinda cooked

[runic jungle]

Personally I just sit on the raised platforms and wail on him with charged shotgun or the shift ability

[lavish jacinth]

Try to play around the ramps, he has trouble staying on them and they'll give you an easy way to get above him.

Just be ready to move in closer when he starts doing big spinny, he always alternates between that and the big shockwave attack so you can sorta predict it

Also buy drones, it's worth doing that anyway even if you're not captain. Mithrix has severe adhd and will get distracted by them, and he'll spend half the fight trying to swat them out of the air

[nimble night]

lmao

ty!

[wind kernel]

Play around ramps of pillars for cover

Youre kinda fucked if you dont have movement so use the arena as your advantage

[cobalt obsidian]

whats the best way to get rid of drones

i bought a healing drone but im playing so its kinda bad for me

[daring cloak]

Let enemies attack them until they die or lead them into damaging areas such as void seeds

[cobalt obsidian]

OOH ILL TRY VOID SEEDS, THX

[frosty reef]

Diablo strike

[outer tangle]

Do people play this game multiplayer? And if so who can help me out a bit with this game im new?

[daring cloak]

You can ask to play with others in #lfg-pc-ror2

Youll usually get a response relatively soon

[dark canyon]

in mp if you die before escaping moon you get vanished text

[cyan vortex]

Does Tricorn work on false son?...I hope it doesn't but...he does drop something

Not a boss item tho...and it's an ACTUAL boss...

[daring cloak]

Tricorn does not work on fs

[cyan vortex]

Ty

[ocean monolith]

Sometimes not charging the primary works for the simple fact that it allows you to get more shots out, even if pellets miss

[woeful badger]

i want to be able to drag bosses across the ground as ravager again instead of just slamming them into the ground

how do i re enable it?

[hoary sedge]

#ror2-modding would probably know

[urban narwhal]

2 quick questions?

• does scaling stop at l99 and stays there or does it pernamently rise into infinity while displaying only l99?
• any items on low progression to boost my damage numbers? Bc i got rapid fire artificer, and even tho i can kill even bosses with short bursts. I can see that the dmg per shot is heavily lacking

[lavish jacinth]

1. Enemy stats stop scaling at level 99 (except special bosses like mithrix), but the game will continue spawning harder enemies in larger numbers until you're getting nothing but elite scavengers
2. The best way to boost damage is to mix different items so they build off of each other, instead of just focusing on one thing. Ex. instead of just building attack speed, add proc items, crit or other multipliers as well. Generally the more variety you have, the better

proc items in particular mix together really well due to proc chaining

[urban narwhal]

So ig i need more luck lol. The game showered me in suringes, whips, feathers, sprint shields and uh. The fall damage brancelet thing... Forgot the name

[daring cloak]

Those are really good items

[urban narwhal]

And the shield gen. I have like twice my health in shields

[mellow crystal]

headstompers?

[daring cloak]

Dont feel afraid of using items that seem bad

[urban narwhal]

But i nearly forgot. If i get one tapped by scavenger or reaver whatever the name. Will the legendary plush activate anyways?

[urban narwhal]

Ah yes these

[daring cloak]

A lot of the items are more valuable than they seem

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, Dio always activates

[mellow crystal]

always triggers when you die afaik

[urban narwhal]

If i get em thru crates or stuff sure. But why would i pick worse lol

Omg... So im straight up an unstoppable force now huh lol

[daring cloak]

Experimenting and discovering how things work is gonna let you improve significantly

[urban narwhal]

Fair

[mellow crystal]

if you're ion surge arti with headstompers then absolutely tbh

[daring cloak]

I myself sometimes also like to challenge myself by intentionally going for a gimmicky build over a better normal build just to get some more unique and memorable runs

[urban narwhal]

I will experiment later bc now with this run im running for 20 stages monsoon win

[lavish jacinth]

there are a lot of items that work really well within a specific niche even if they seem bad on the surface
like my beloved

[urban narwhal]

Wait ion surge is the syringe and arti was uuhh? What again?

[lavish jacinth]

there are very few items that are just straight up trash

[lavish jacinth]

ion surge is her alternate special skill

the one that launches you into the air

[urban narwhal]

Oh that one

Oh no i forgor. I need to do the challenges for abils. This run is so perfect for these maybe

[daring cloak]

Arti's challenges are very easy too

You can even get all 3 at the same time in stage 1 without items if you use a specific artifact combination

Kin so every enemy becomes beetles and swarms so every enemy is doubled

You take the fuel array, activate the teleporter, let yourself get hit until you fall below 50% hp and jump right as the fuel array explodes

Ideally this meets all the conditions

A big multi kill, several kills without touching the ground and killing the teleporter boss within 1 second of damaging it

[urban narwhal]

Lol thats some insane strat

I think with my current setup all i need to do is uh. Let alot of enemies spawn. Fly a bit and destroy. Espe that my abils have minimum cooldown and instacharge

[gilded dirge]

whats the best setup for the Ice Javelins?

And also, Artificers special Alt (the super leap)

[tough mountain]

speaking of headstompers, i SWEAR you used to jump WAY higher with them

either that or i'm stupid

[wide parrot]

they were bugged at one point to give double the jump height

[tough mountain]

ohhhhh okay

[mellow crystal]

i'd say default m1 + alt special

honestly this is a ramble but the issue with arti imo is that her only really interchangeable skills if you're going for the best setup are her m2s
default m1 does way more damage and you already have a bunch of aoe as arti
alt special's ability to send you into the fucking sky and start hovering is too good (+ the aoe it has complements the lower aoe on default m1 + alt m2)

i'd really only consider alt m1 for ice spear + flamethrower

and even then if you get an then you would've been better off with default m1 + flamethrower

[mellow crystal]

anyway ramble over, get either alt m1 or alt special to complement the lower aoe on ice spear but alt special is generally preferable imo

[gilded dirge]

mmm, I will try

I have tried this combo, and I might make it work with gas tanks, IDK, just feels like I gotta be air bombing whenever I do the vault

but I suppose the AOE does good damage

[lavish jacinth]

Usually I'd suggest running nanobomb over spear if you're gonna be running ion surge, it's hard to take advantage of the pierce when you're above everything

[mellow crystal]

true
spear + surge is usable but it's less of an airbomb playstyle and more of a headstompers-esque playstyle kinda
unless you're fighting just one target in which case you can airbomb as much as you'd like

[quasi crystal]

Skill issue

That's my normal arti loadout

[lavish jacinth]

Well I only run bomb + flamethrower so

[gilded dirge]

I like the flamethrower I think, my only gripe is it needs literally 1 centimeter extra

just a tip

[lavish jacinth]

Nah they just need to un-nerf its damage lol

[quasi crystal]

Agile flamethrower pls

[lavish jacinth]

The fact that it's risky and commital is part of its identity, it just needs the damage to be worth it

[quasi crystal]

It feels like ass when you move like a slug and do 0 dps I agree

[lavish jacinth]

I don't even care that it's not agile lol

You usually wanna use it while circlestrafing anyways

[vast rampart]

ion surge solo cause mobility

[lavish jacinth]

It would be nice if the jetpack did a better job at carrying momentum though, especially with wax quail

[gilded dirge]

for sure

[quasi crystal]

With her horrendous physics

[gilded dirge]

yeah im back to nano + thrower unfortunately

[hoary sedge]

yeah actually flamethrower would probably be a lot more tolerable to use if arti didn't literally have the acceleration of a clunky construction robot

[cunning jay]

Whats the best difficulty mod? To make the game harder

[mellow crystal]

imo inferno since it isn't just stat bloat

changes up enemy ai as well without directly changing the attacks themselves

most other modded difficulties are just
+200% difficulty scaling -50% gold and xp gain e7 modifier have fun

[cunning jay]

But isn't inferno too hard? I want something aimed at someone who just finished their first e8 run

[mellow crystal]

i can manage on inferno and i never play eclipse so
don't think there are very many easier difficulties on the mods page anyway

[quasi crystal]

Does inferno halve healing

[steady swallow]

whats the most effective loadout on mult? i found that hes the survivor im currently struggling with the most. does mul t have a specific playstyle thats required?

[quasi crystal]

Easiest to use is retool double rebar

[steady swallow]

i find that holding down r while left clicking and moving very difficult is that just something we have to get used to?

[quasi crystal]

Yes unfortunately

[trim narwhal]

you could get a mod to automatically do it, if ur okay with using a mod for something like this

[marble osprey]

You can hold down left click to shoot once you get a bit of attack speed, and you could also rebind retool to a different key if that'd make it easier?

[quasi crystal]

I have all 4 skills on my mouse

[quasi crystal]

If you have eulogy and delusion can you remove lunars

[urban narwhal]

This modded?

[urban narwhal]

I seen someone leave the moob by going back to the teleporter and flying up?
It was after killing the boss
The guy used railgunner

[mellow crystal]

ye

[urban narwhal]

Oh alr

[mellow crystal]

utility is mines that knock you back
special has recoil that knocks you back a fair distance if used midair
m1 has recoil that helps you slowfall (or accelerate a bit if you're going up)
combine all three and you have rocketgunner

[urban narwhal]

I mean

I dont have the dlc so my question is. What does that ceiling exit do-

Bc i have way too many hopoo feathers so i can easily get up there, buuuuut im like 15 stages away from the end

[mellow crystal]

which map?

[urban narwhal]

The moon?

[mellow crystal]

ohh

as in
once you got to the ship on commencement, he flew up-..?

[urban narwhal]

Nono. The railgunner went past the ship, back to the teleporter. Then flep up to the ceiling

[marble cairn]

Will someone ever hop on quickplay?

[urban narwhal]

Nvm i watched the vid im dum

He simply went into the void portal and flep up for fun

[mellow crystal]

thought so
i had to go double-check the wiki since i was like "i mean there is the glass frog but ceiling exit??? i need to make sure of this" 😭

[urban narwhal]

Yh sry

[wind kernel]

how is false son update balanced?

i thought they would make it a lot less forgiving

now its actually worse

[gilded dirge]

That laser is pretty bad

Still dunno how to avoid it besides only doing false son after I get a busted build lol

[daring cloak]

Hide behind a pillar

False son seems to be less aggressive while the laser is active or smth

He will run to you but many people have said that he doesnt really attack much during that time

[gilded dirge]

Ive not had him be less aggro consistently

If anything its pretty random what the games gonna do once you decide to hide from that 1:1 tracking laser, building for speed doesnt do shit for the fight which sucks

[daring cloak]

You also dont have to hide from the laser as much immediately

Its damage ramps up so it may be better to spend some time at the beginning of the attack to travel to a better hiding spot

[wind kernel]

i got slammed when hiding

eventho i was in old war stealth kit buff

[daring cloak]

The invis buff is useless

[wind kernel]

yes

theres no counter play to it

especially phase 3 when you get your abilities taken

[daring cloak]

I think this is just a matter of practice

Since the laser now comes from a single fixed location its far easier to hide from it

[wind kernel]

on paper yes

but in practice, still an autotracking laser

even behind cover false son can still hit you

only counterplay you can do is by having beetle guard

[mellow crystal]

case in point:

[wind kernel]

also false son dash is now teleporting for me...

[wind kernel]

you still need abnoxious amount of movement items

[gilded dirge]

Its so annoying

[wind kernel]

for a stage 4 for boss, its literally up to rng

[daring cloak]

I wouldnt make that judgement so soon

The fight definitely seems doable if you figure false son's patterns out

Or if you just cheese it which I found really easy to do

[mellow crystal]

yeah i was about to say
mithrix hammer swing seems pretty stupid on your first fight of him but it really isn't

[gilded dirge]

Thats basically it yeah, I only go into this if I can nuke the SOB

[ocean charm]

Hey everyone! Do you know if in the long run, void bands are better than the normal bands? Lets say if you loop, or are going really far in Simulacrum.

[daring cloak]

No not really

[ocean charm]

I didn't think so. I prefer to see the fire tornado anyway. 🙂

Thank you!

[hoary sedge]

yeah void bands are rarely ever worth it

it's significantly less damage with a longer cooldown that doesn't really add that much extra utility, especially on long runs where stuff usually dies so fast the root doesn't have time to actually do anything

[acoustic acorn]

Id pick them up once in a while

[minor harbor]

Hey guys, I'm making a video on the music of Risk of Rain 2, and I wanted to ask you guys how you feel about it: any thoughts are appreciated.
I would specifically want to know what do you guys think the biggest diference was between the osts of ROR and ROR 2

[fickle rivet]

Have they finally crossplay between PC and Xbox?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[earnest bone]

Will seeker, the false son, and chef receive Prime Meridian event completion skins?

[daring cloak]

We do not know

[sudden elk]

I hope so

[austere hollow]

Does anyone know the new way to enter the path of the colossus mentioned in the new update blogpost?

[daring cloak]

Its in the bazaar

If you enter from stage 1 or 2, the bazaar will have 3 mini geodes hidden across the map

Havent found one inside the bazaar itself but the surrounding area and the abyss to vields can have mini geodes

Finding and breaking all 3 will spawn a green portal

Good luck searching

[earnest bone]

yeah i dont think they spawn in the shop spot

[austere hollow]

Mm ok only stage 1 and 2 then, that's what I didn't know. Thanks

[hoary sedge]

I also don't think they spawn if you go there from a path of the colossus stage? It's also possible that I just missed them the one time I tried though

[austere hollow]

I managed to find them, definitely in some interesting spots

[brittle shuttle]

Not confirmed, however during the phase 2 update they updated the sots steam page to be more akin to the sotv steam page

on the fancy little image of the content it including it says “16 mastery skins” obv referring to prime meridian skins

except seeker chef and fs dont have one rn so that number is incorrect so maybe cope thinking but i can see them coming sooner or later

[tough zealot]

If I use the lunar seer to select a stage and then go to the void, will I get taken to the stage I picked with the lunar seer after I'm done with the void?

[daring cloak]

No

[tough zealot]

Thanks

[gilded dirge]

whats some of artificers better items

[gilded dirge]

damnm

for her flamer..

[quasi crystal]

litterally all her electric moves

[gilded dirge]

Items

Not moves

[mellow crystal]

alt m1

[mellow crystal]

for m1 (and flamethrower if you use it), , ,

[gilded dirge]

?

[mellow crystal]

!

[gilded dirge]

Noice

[quasi crystal]

i like the base one tbh

[prime parcel]

are any of these good? I haven't memorized these types of items yet so I don't know what they do or which are good

(for loader)

not very good at the game so I wanna optomize since I wanna unlock mercenary

[wind crow]

none of them are good

[marsh gust]

depending on what you have purity could be good and helfire tincture could be good

[quasi crystal]

terrible for loader replaces your secondary
never bad but pretty underwhelming buffs everything (even enemies) in its radius and is placed every so often
fine on loader but say goodbye to your on hit items (lowers cooldowns by 2s but lowers luck)
Hell fire tincture : loader is more of a burst damage gal,so spreading dot to everything (including yourself) isnt very practical but if you're using her m1 ALOT it ca be awesome
nah keep your special as is

[oak quiver]

This game dead? I can’t find a single lobby while queing

I thought this was still a popular game

[sudden elk]

It depends man, you just gotta get on at the right time

[honest badger]

people don't queue all that much. use the lfg channels here

[sudden elk]

Even on the Xbox lfg there's only about 3-7 different posts a month

[lavish jacinth]

If you're on steam, make sure you have crossplay turned off

You can only join other crossplay lobbies if it's enabled, and nobody uses it because it's a glitchy mess

But yeah, this server is probably a better way to find games than joining randoms

[gilded dirge]

arrow rain or ballista for huntress?

[daring cloak]

Ballista

[gilded dirge]

mm, I assume 1 alt too

[daring cloak]

Ehhh not really

You can take the alt primary but the default one is far more consistent and reliable

[hoary sedge]

yeah alt m1 is very reliant on getting crit

if you do it's very strong but if you don't it just kinda feels terrible

[foggy vessel]

i think alt primary is betterrr but i might just be more willing to take the risk of getting crit lole

i guess u could say... its a risk of rain..

[trim narwhal]

if ur in mp with like eg

railgunner or like acrid or even like bandit partner, who are willing to offer you crit, alt m1 is less of a risk

0 crit can still happen though and youll feel useless xd

[peak jacinth]

iirc you only need 20% crit for alt to be equal/better, so it’s pretty much a tie between the two

[trim narwhal]

need some more for total dmg% proc item scaling i think, isnt alt like 0.7 coeff

[lyric silo]

alt primary has less dps if u have 2 or less crit glasses i believe but if u have more the dps is higher

so for loopers alt is easily better

but i still use it for mithrix runs cause i rlly want >20% crit

[lyric silo]

alt is 0.6

[trim narwhal]

skull emoji

[lyric silo]

the only time where id say that matters much is with duration effects cause theyre 0.6x the duration

[trim narwhal]

what like bleeds? id say it matters less with decent crit and tritips and attack speed

because you get more procs per second

doesnt matter if each arrow is doing less dmg

[lyric silo]

yeah but the duration still is annoying

[trim narwhal]

but total dmg% items are impacted by both

[lyric silo]

i dont believe total damage is effected by procc coefficient

[trim narwhal]

their chance to proc is

in terms of dps gain from total dmg% items

[lyric silo]

if its a proc item yes

[trim narwhal]

if you have 0.6 on alt then for the same gain

you need (1/0.6)x dps on alt m1

ehh u sure its 0.6, wiki says 0.7

[lyric silo]

hmm i could be wrong

[trim narwhal]

anyways youll need at least 75% crit

to get the same dps gain from an atg or sticky or uke etc

from alt m1

[lyric silo]

hmmm

[trim narwhal]

offset by increased raw dps, so depend on build overall

if youre indexed into a ton of proc total dps items but have little or mid crit, u might see dps loss still

[lyric silo]

that is interesting i may use default a lil more

[trim narwhal]

if you just got a ton of eg watches ap rounds etc then alt will clear at low mediocre crit

and if u have enough atk spd or crit or tritips to have the duration not matter

then alt m1 also outscales at low crit for bleed builds, since its more procs per second, just not as much proc dps at low-mid crit

when i get home i might modify my bandit m1 sheet for huntress m1, test some realistic quantities for proc items pre loop

[peak jacinth]

I think Charlotte has or had the numbers but yea it’s more in terms of pdps

[gilded dirge]

can huntress not proc bands?

[trim narwhal]

can with ballista, or other items

[gilded dirge]

damn

[trim narwhal]

or m2 with some bounces

[peak jacinth]

Ballista is 3x900% so it’ll proc it yea

[trim narwhal]

ballista does more than m2 max bounce so ideally use ballista

[peak jacinth]

shouldn’t be using arrow rain so don’t complain

[gilded dirge]

I didnt get ballista yet

shes.. weird

[peak jacinth]

that should be your #1 priority

[trim narwhal]

she feels extra weird until ballista haha

[peak jacinth]

cuz arrow rain is garbage

[gilded dirge]

its so bad

[trim narwhal]

yes i wanted a little aoe that things walk out of with a 0.2 coefficient, how could you tell?

and really easy to hit vs flying bosses too ofc

[peak jacinth]

even if the enemies stay in it for the full 6s it’s less damage 😭

~2000% vs 2700%

[trim narwhal]

its ok its a lot of bleed stacks once u get 50 tritips, that run out real quick if u dont hit them after

[peak jacinth]

😭 bleed stacks with 0.2 proc co

[gilded dirge]

I am struggling to get anything going for her frankly

alt M1 is better for me so far

cuz I always wanna stack crit no matter what

but still, shes kinda annoying atm

[trim narwhal]

do u have alt shift

[gilded dirge]

not yet, I am stacking crowbars

can just go do command and dip out tbf

[trim narwhal]

you might be mosquito but youll be pretty unkillable mosquito with it, long as u dont idle

[peak jacinth]

I would go on drizzle + command and try to unlock the other alt skills, she’s not nearly as good without

[trim narwhal]

m1 is her least important choice yea imo

[gilded dirge]

will just do that

[peak jacinth]

yea definitely

it’s the only one that’s actually a toss up

[trim narwhal]

just simply get afterburners etc and default shift feels great, happens every run

[surreal socket]

Does the Xbox port have kbm support???

[steady stone]

I've heard technically but it isn't meant for it, so it has things like inverted mouse that you can't change

[high forum]

It used to, and it no longer does

[steady stone]

yeah I remember we were talking specifically about accessing the console that day, they could only open it
no registered key inputs for actually typing

[pseudo urchin]

wax quail is good with loader right?

[quasi crystal]

It's nice

[lavish jacinth]

it's pretty good if you're in a tight spot with no room to grapple and need to quickly build up some speed for a punch

[pseudo urchin]

feel like that burst of speed can help with quick charged gauntlet

yeahhh like that

[quasi crystal]

I feel like it contributes to grapple? Maybe a placebo

[lavish jacinth]

it's hard to tell, grappling naturally gives you a burst of speed when the hook lands

and quail has weird physics

[split lintel]

Are radio scanners bugged on new dlc maps? I’ve never seen any on Helminth Hatchery or on Golden Dieback

[daring cloak]

Yes so ever since the sots release, disturbed impact's log got unobtainable if you already have the titanic plains log

With the current update treeborn/dieback have the same bug if you already have the aphelian sanctuary log and helminth if you have the sky meadows log

So the only way to get those logs currently is to play with someone who doesnt have the other logs that bug out those sots stages logs

[split lintel]

Thanks for responding, guess it’s time to get someone to run it with me

[quasi crystal]

ever since the update i keep seeing radio scanners for maps i already have the logs for no idea why

[pastel epoch]

is the bulwark varient always the same through the entire run? trying to unlock all logbook varients and cant find the tar one, keep getting the wisp one this run

[livid wedge]

Bulwarks are random

[opaque saddle]

is it worth it actively grind out skins and alt skills or should I just gain it over time while enjoying the game

[marble osprey]

Kinda depends on the requirements for the skills, some of them you can just get pretty naturally, some you can get without too much trouble as long as you keep the requirements in mind and go for it when you see an opportunity, and others just won't happen unless you're specifically going for them
Mastery skins you can definitely get just playing the game naturally though, although you might have to grind a bit to get the false son skins since most people don't usually go to false son

[opaque saddle]

btw weird question

ethreal merc says "beat prismatic trial without dropping below 100% hp"

but when I tried stacking topaz and Personal shields (like 1 or 2 of each back when there was a command seed) so that I am above 100% and can take stray damage from like pests and wisps, it didn't give me the achievement after I beat the run even though I was above 100% the entire time

[daring cloak]

Shield still counts as hp for this achievement

[opaque saddle]

ah

[dusky raven]

For the purposes of of the achievement shield still counts at HP

[opaque saddle]

barrier too?

[dusky raven]

Barrier doesn’t tho

[daring cloak]

However barrier does work the way you thought it does

[dusky raven]

So going into that was smart

[daring cloak]

Because its basically going over 100% up to 200%

[opaque saddle]

aegis run real

alr then thnaks for the info

honestly it's just a skill issue I can't get this achievement(and I love merc as a character too T-T, double pain and no gain)

[lusty bronze]

every time there's a new trial the rortuber cabbage posts a clip of him beating the ethereal challenge on that seed

yet, the main strategy is just to hold out for a glass or command seed and try to do it whenever that happens

[opaque saddle]

yeah ik, I try to follow through but I mess up with the tech's and stuff

like the 3rd m1 extension

it's literally 50/50 when I try

[lusty bronze]

expose transfer takes a lot of practice, and gets harder the more atk. speed you have

the trick to it is just pressing the ability you wanna transfer to very slightly after the 3rd m1 hit

timing feels really tight, and takes lots of practice, but it's defo worth learning 👍

[hoary sedge]

yeah the expose transfer makes the alt dash insane

it exposes every enemy you dash through, and then the delayed hit procs it and if you hit enough enemies it instantly gives you back the dash (and all your other abilities)

[lusty bronze]

yeah!

[lament dome]

Dumb question does ending the run at false son on monsoon give you the mastery skins or do you have to go to mithrix

[lavish jacinth]

I'm super late but protip, it's a little easier if you do it when you're really close to the enemy, so the sword hitbox connects on frame 1. There's a bit of hitpause that makes the window slightly bigger

[sudden elk]

It counts, same as obliterating

And voidling

You jus gotta get an ending that isn't dying

[lament dome]

Alr

[ornate gust]

Did they change the item distribution in the void fields?

I didnt see anything about it in the patch notes

Only seen the enemies get only whites after the update

[lavish jacinth]

this seems to be a new bug

or if not then it's just a weird unlisted change

[ornate gust]

Ah

[lavish jacinth]

probably a bug tho

[ornate gust]

I was thinkin that or its randomly given

Or based on difficulty

[lavish jacinth]

nah, a few other people have reported that they only ever get white items

[ornate gust]

Ah okay

Hope they revert it then

They also kinda messed up the stage counter

Going to void fields now counts as a stage

So stage 2 is counted as stage 3 instead (after completing void fields and going to the regular path) and so on

At least on the top right where it shows the stage

I assume that was an oversight

On scorched acres rn and yeah, kinda a nit pick but still odd

[lavish jacinth]

yeah that's another known bug, they even noted in the patch notes that they were aware of it although I kinda hope they don't fix it ngl

[ornate gust]

Oh didnt realise they acknowledged it

Cool

I think it'll be a good to fix cuz new players would be confused

I assume they also know about loaders select animation having a sound delay

[ornate gust]

Plus I just like it the way it usually was

[lavish jacinth]

maybe, but I think it's an interesting way to balance it. Vields IS basically an extra stage in terms of how much loot you get, and having a guaranteed difficulty penalty for going there means you're incentivized to tough it out instead of leaving the moment it gets dangerous

[steady stone]

iirc it's breaking stage 5 by using post loop spawn pools tho (from "6" that you're on)

so it's definitely a high priority fix

[ornate gust]

Ahhh

[lavish jacinth]

I don't even see that as a problem personally

if anything it's kinda neat

[steady stone]

true, but maybe would need to be implemented as a proper feature, especially for the elite types

[ornate gust]

I just found it weird to see stage 2's as stage 3s and so on

The moon would be stage 7 by then

And I wonder cuz of this it'll let u get the 20 stages achievements faster aswell

[lavish jacinth]

it wouldn't be any faster, 20 stages is 20 stages

[steady stone]

I was thinking about whether there would be any achievements that could take advantage of it, but can't think of any

[ornate gust]

Yeah

[lavish jacinth]

well, I guess you could shave off a couple minutes by going to vields and immediately leaving to increment the stage counter without spending any extra time

but by doing that you'd also be increasing difficulty with no benefit

[ornate gust]

Doesnt the difficulty only go up based on the time?

[steady stone]

works right? That could be pretty fast if you get one first

[lavish jacinth]

nope, stage count increases difficulty too

+15% per stage

[ornate gust]

Huh interesting

Never knew

[steady stone]

That's also why full looting is better, one of many reasons

[lavish jacinth]

yep

if you pay attention to the difficulty slider and enemy level, you can see it jump forward between stages

[ornate gust]

Right

[livid wedge]

I'd much rather they fix that bug

[ornate gust]

Thats cool, never noticed

[steady stone]

Hmm, special scaling doesn't use the stage counter scaling does it? Just pure time?

[ornate gust]

Im sure they will in next patch, at least just some minor bugs this time

[steady stone]

So theoretically that could be easier

[lavish jacinth]

it uses the overall difficulty coefficient, which does include stage count

if they fix the bug I'd hope they implement some other consequence for going there and leaving early though

[livid wedge]

I think increasing the time like a normal stage like it did before was fine

Incrementing the number bugs me because everything feels off after that

[lavish jacinth]

The issue I have with that is that there's zero penalty for doing one or two cells, looting as much as you can and then dipping out the instant it gets slightly difficult. There's basically no reason not to go to vields other than it being boring

[livid wedge]

Then let it be like that. You don't have to go there

[lavish jacinth]

Having to weigh the benefit of more items vs a permanent consequence is just more interesting imo

the stage count being off also doesn't bother me in the slightest but maybe I'm in the minority there lol

I also just think it's fun to have stuff that mixes up gameplay a little bit, getting post-loop enemies early is cool and different

[steady stone]

it would definitely need a lot of polish though, since it's post loop elites paired with the rough spawn pools on 5 (or "10")

like iirc child spawns post loop Meadows, and an elite one could obliterate you

[minor wolf]

uh what happened i kept getting attacked by like, the ground

[daring cloak]

No idea what happened there, a lot of things like debuffs for example count as dying to "the planet"

[gilded dirge]

I think im struggling to dish out damage as Huntress, what am I missing, below is like a run of the mill run id get with her

[lavish jacinth]

you've got good damage items, huntress just has really low base dps

like, her primary does half the dps of commando's m1

[gilded dirge]

I found that both the base and alt M1s are kinda underwhelming like that

one for speed and one for base damage

[lavish jacinth]

yep

even with max crit, her alt m1 is still worse than commando

(assuming commando also has max crit)

[gilded dirge]

im also just disappointed that ballista isnt that much help either

[lavish jacinth]

it's a pretty good ability on its own, but with the cooldown being so long, you're still relying on her weak primary a lot of the time

with huntress you just kinda deal slow and steady damage while focusing on dodging

[urban narwhal]

i need help lol. i am at kin artifact reliquary, and te director only spawns wandering vagrants. these guys dont drop keys

[lavish jacinth]

rip

[urban narwhal]

ok nvm ig im unlucky

it took me 10 mins to drop a singel key

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, kin trial loves to troll you

[urban narwhal]

oh its tied to kin specifically?

[lavish jacinth]

could be worse, at least it's not overloading worms

[urban narwhal]

i thought it was bc its my 30th stage on l99 monsoon

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, that's what kin does

oh

well I was gonna say that if a boss is the chosen enemy and you're only on like stage 5, it'll take a while to afford one so you're just waiting like a minute between each spawn

[urban narwhal]

and like. my issue was they didnt drop key lol

[lavish jacinth]

but if you're on stage 30 you should be getting plenty of them, so that's just bad luck with key drops

[urban narwhal]

ye im still waiting like 20-xs depending how long i stay in air

i get 1-2 at a time too

also ty for info

also is radio not guaranteed to spawn too?

[daring cloak]

The logbook is guaranteed to spawn but it disappears after 5 minutes

[urban narwhal]

oh

on every stage? and time counts since i drop in to the level?

[daring cloak]

No not every stage only hidden realms

Regular stages can spawn the purchasable scanners but hidden realms with always have a phyical logbook hidden somewhere in the stage

And with the exception of gided coast, every one of those logbooks disappears after 5 minutes of being on that stage

[urban narwhal]

dang they hide it so ewll

well*
i cant find any

[cunning tide]

How do i complete a loop instead of just killing mithrix guy?I have only killed him once

[steady stone]

Interact with the rings on the celestial teleporter to "shift the destination" to the planet

[cunning tide]

after doing the teleporter event?

[steady stone]

Before

Inner thing activates, outer ring aims

[lavish jacinth]

you can also just leave through any portal besides the main teleporter or void portal

[crude wigeon]

does someone knows

why my name is diffrent to the steam name

in the game

[lavish jacinth]

Might be because you have crossplay enabled, I suggest turning it off because it's glitchy and useless

[crude wigeon]

i will try that

ty

it worked

[slate otter]

can you not skip pillars?

im next to the boss but he aint wakin up

[steady stone]

You can, and all players need to be in the arena

[slate otter]

oh

so uh

im stuck up here in the boss area

[steady stone]

abandoning your friends 😔

[slate otter]

i thought i could teleport him up here!

[quasi crystal]

Who is your friend playing as

[slate otter]

we were using metamorphosis and he was the green poison guy

[onyx moss]

any chances of we getting a free crazy update after the seekers of the storm fiz?

[quasi crystal]

The only thing I could think of is a new map

[onyx moss]

hope so

[sudden escarp]

Hey guys, is this game cross play between xbox and pc? I read an article saying it was

[quasi crystal]

dont trust articles written by chatgpt

[sudden escarp]

Lol fuck

[mental path]

does anyone know what causes the "choose your item" thing to spawn at the top of the prime meridian?

[livid wedge]

Cracking all the geodes on the way up

[mental path]

no shit? i had no idea

[unreal forge]

So I just got the game yesterday and I really like bandit but I always get overwhelmed by big bunches of enemies (especially during bosses). What should I be doing to fix this? Also any other tips for bandit?

[steady stone]

assuming youre using the default bandit pistol, utilising the fact that kills instantly refresh the cooldown can help get rid of hordes of small enemies

also, your shift that makes you invisible has an AoE stun around your character

[mellow crystal]

Default m2 also has surprisingly good aoe

[nocturne sierra]

First of all, take advantage of bandits passive backstab, you get guaranteed crit (double damage) when hitting an enemy in the back, use smoke bomb to get behind enemies to use back stab. Also a tip that’s good but I don’t do myself, don’t fire the last bullet in the gun, it will reload faster if there is at least one bullet still in the gun, also use the bleed from the backstab knife

[heavy trout]

is commando's roll still useless or does it have an unwriten feature idk about such as I frames?

[lavish jacinth]

Nah roll kinda sucks, the only thing it can do that slide can't is trimp

[heavy trout]

well they should defo change that

[lavish jacinth]

We can only hope

All of commandos default skills could use some work

[heavy trout]

i mean here you have commando that tosses a grenade and here we have the seeker that brings back people from the dead and summons a massive fist that also heals.

[lavish jacinth]

I mean i don't mind that commando isn't super strong or anything, no need to make him overpowered

He's supposed to be basic

[heavy trout]

yeah but still some work could be done

[lavish jacinth]

Pretty sure reloading from empty isn't any slower btw

[nocturne sierra]

Idk people say it is, I don’t really do that one

[lavish jacinth]

The wiki actually says the reload starts sooner if its empty but doesn't say by how much

[nocturne sierra]

I’d rather just dump a full mag on an enemy than save one bullet for a faster reload

[lavish jacinth]

That's usually better anyway, assuming the enemy can tank all four shots

Get them as low as you can with primary then finish them with the revolver, if they're still alive, knife them and run away while you reload

[honest badger]

and both are op as fuck

[heavy trout]

cant deny, with some luck on ur side commando becomes a beast

uh i have used the same hunter's tricon like 3 times, am i missing something?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, tricorn seems to be bugged

[steady stone]

Was this from an early Mithrix fight? Like a shadow clone to summon against you and die in one hit?
Or, well, not one hit. But he's not very bulky either. Maybe like the hp of a stone golem, or even less.

[nocturne sierra]

Kinda reminds me of the shadow providence in the stage three of the providence fight

[steady stone]

After sending it here, someone mentioned a quote from the wiki about an unused attack with the slam, similar to Umbral. It still sounds interesting though.

I still figured someone here might know for sure tbh, as I feel like if anybody had played ages ago during launch it would be one of the regulars here

[trim narwhal]

never made it to actual game

[nocturne sierra]

Hey if that’s something you recorded, is there anything else that’s cool that’s unused that you can spawn in

[daring cloak]

Oh theres a bunch of unused assets that you could spawn in

[steady stone]

Yeah, like the car, potman, some unused characters

[nocturne sierra]

Wait a car? What kinda car

[steady stone]

It's pretty default and blocky, probably for physics tests

If you search for my recent messages with videos/images there should be a good bit on it all

[peak jacinth]

bomber

I think Fax wanted to do a bomber run at some point

[fresh umbra]

The delay between shooting and reload from empty vs with >0 shots in the chamber is lower, meaning you start reloading sooner with an empty mag

[peak jacinth]

what’s the exact timing of it?

like the difference

[fresh umbra]

Idk

Ik the wiki doesn’t say either, last i checked

[peak jacinth]

damn

[turbid hinge]

guys tips to not dying to ur own kit in mithrix phase 4

like I died to 3 brilliant behemoths I had

like this was my items

+3 brilliant behemotha and 3 atgs

[lavish jacinth]

safest way is to just stay behind cover and poke him to death with any ranged attacks you have

if you're feeling ballsy (or just impatient) it's possible to dodge his attacks by staying close to him and circlestrafe faster than he can turn

if you have any minions, another good trick is to stay close to him until the very end of the item stealing animation and run away at the last second

that way your minions will lag behind and aggro to him as soon as he's vulnerable, distracting him and getting some free damage. Also if you have , buy back any dead drones to spawn turrets

[trim narwhal]

is there a way to aim glaze at farther or aerial targets better, or xdd

tried some glaze cuz yes chef got meganerfed this patch, but bruh this thing cant hit for shit against flying stuff. even when it does hit, searing them is like not happening so idk gg. i thought glaze wouldve been better into aerial enemies than yes chef but this feels just as terrible

[lavish jacinth]

you pretty much have to aim it like engie's primary

ie. git gud at trigonometry and lead the shot both vertically and horizontally

[mild trellis]

Be very very patient and wait out his attack patterns by peeking from behind cover and hitting him with something ranged until he goes into the ball attacks then you should be good to wail on him

[gilded dirge]

how do I stack 20 hemorrhages? does stacking tri-tips count or is it just raw dogging 20 mags + speed buffs?

[daring cloak]

Yeah you definitely want some backup mags and cooldown reduction

[gilded dirge]

should it be on one enemy too?

[daring cloak]

Try doing it on a tanky enemy like the alloy worship unit

[gilded dirge]

damn

[daring cloak]

Yes it has to be on one enemy

[gilded dirge]

I need glases too cuz crits cause it

so itll be tricky to not kill

[daring cloak]

Just use the backstab crits

[gilded dirge]

true

why can the Halcyonite see through invis also lmao

[lavish jacinth]

cloaking makes it so that enemies only get updates on your position once every second, so they can still "see" you occasionally

it helps a lot to have drones or other minions though, because cloaking also makes enemies way more likely to change targets

[gilded dirge]

damn

[quasi crystal]

Wouldn't be surprised if it just ignores cloak. Fs does afterall

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, cloaking has weird behavior with beam-type attacks

they're on some earthbender shit and can feel you through the ground idk

[short axle]

This may be a dumb question, but in multi player, can one player obliterate and the other go through the portal and have the run continue?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, obliterating ends the run for everyone

[ornate gust]

For commandos incorruptible achievement does picking up a lunar coin count as a lunar item?

[livid wedge]

It does not. You can pick them up

[leaden field]

No

[ornate gust]

Oh fr?

Thanks

[leaden field]

Only items that go to your inventory count

[ornate gust]

I thought thats why lunar coins dont auto pickup and u have to click to pick em up

[ornate gust]

Ahh cool cool

[leaden field]

They don't auto pick up probably for multiplayer reasons, for people to divvy them out

[ornate gust]

Understandable

[crude wigeon]

I have a question, for some reason when i turned my steam cloud and i lost progress how do i get my progress back?

[olive spade]

base damage is the survivor's damage stat right? So did the old runic lens used to do 2000% of the damage that procced it?

[turbid hinge]

clockwise or conterf clockwise

[vestal radish]

No it was just incorrect description

[olive spade]

oh so the old one also did base damage

[devout heath]

I'm on my hands and knees begging to know what the logbook entry between mithrix and the gup is on the first page.

I know the two in the 2nd picture are voidling and overloading worm but I can't find anything online about the one in the first pic, for some people there's nothing there
I also do not know how I have scorch worm despite not owning the DLC

ALRIGHT upon further inspection my friends and I believe it is false son despite not owning the SotS DLC

[steady stone]

that's new

it used to be scorch wurm that appeared without dlc

[fair lichen]

Anyone know what the like, glass like blue fragmenting effect over your health bar, ususally during FS fight, is indicating?

[steady stone]

You have lunar ruin
Take more damage, get less healing

[olive spade]

10% more damage per stack 20% less healing per stack

[peak jacinth]

it still is apparently, look at the logbook screenshot lol

[lavish jacinth]

Doesn't matter, just stay behind him

[urban narwhal]

how do i get the 2nd alt skins?

[lavish jacinth]

beat false son

[urban narwhal]

oh

ig i cant then lol, ty for info tho :>

[gilded dirge]

WHY DIDNT I GET THE CHALLENGE??

[daring cloak]

Maybe a mod issue?

Or wait doesnt the enemy need to die?

[gilded dirge]

ill just use a mod to unlock this, yeah I killed it with the stacks

[trim narwhal]

whats that mod

[gilded dirge]

I assume Plasma Bolt is weaker cuz no

but the aoe thing seems fun

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

without ignition tank her primaries are fairly equal imo, but tank puts fire bolt way ahead

[gilded dirge]

shockingly shes like, very good sticking to defaults

lmao, like her alts are fun, but theyre not as good

still fun to unlock

[lavish jacinth]

ion surge is arguably better as far as making it incredibly easy to win, being able to float above everything invalidates like 95% of enemies

but flamethrower is more fun

[gilded dirge]

flamers damage are great, but yeah the ability to just bamf up is very nice, I just wish the transition to just floating if you want to after is smooth, its kinda awkward, she like stops floating if you didnt properly do it

but yeah for her 1 you can do a lot to offset the lack of the AoE, the games options are pretty varied in that area

[trim narwhal]

default has a bit of aoe anyways

just lesser

[calm kestrel]

why do the void seeds keep bugging out? when i kill all the void enemies it still says theres more and the void seed just stays there

in my latest run my shipment was in a void seed, it had 2 reds, when i cleared the void seed, it said there were still void enemies.

[gilded dirge]

yeah for sure

[urban narwhal]

whats up with modifiers? can i get em in normal runs?
also i see both dlcs are somehow added to my prism trials without me buying dlcs?

[calm kestrel]

free dlc items ig. lol

[lavish jacinth]

by modifiers do you mean artifacts, or the things that randomize stages and make you start with extra cash? Because artifacts can be unlocked for normal runs, but the other modifiers are specific to trials

and prismatic trials have everything unlocked except for characters, since everyone needs to be able to play the same seed

[high forum]

yeah dlc content can be included in the prismatic trials

[urban narwhal]

latter

i tried doing the mercenary no hit prism but its so unholy hard

[high forum]

those are only for prismatics

[lavish jacinth]

they're just kinda jank sometimes, if there are fewer than 3 void enemies remaining it'll show you where they are with a purple arrow at the edge of your screen, but occasionally they do bug out and become incompletable

[calm kestrel]

i got so pissed when it happened, bc i had a shipment with 2 reds in a void seed that got bugged

[lavish jacinth]

not sure what exactly causes it though

[urban narwhal]

how is one meant to no hit entire prism trials as merc?

[lavish jacinth]

the short answer is that you git gud, or at least get lucky

check pins in #prismatic-trials , there's a dude called Cabbage who does guides for every seed

but the easiest way to do it is to just wait for a seed with glass, ideally with command too

[urban narwhal]

theres command

[lavish jacinth]

helps a lot, taking damage to barrier won't fail the challenge

and it helps to have some sort of safe ranged option like

[urban narwhal]

idk if i have shurikens unlocked

[lavish jacinth]

they're dlc, but it doesn't matter since trials have everything unlocked

[high forum]

it doesn't matter, in prismatic trials everything is set to be the same

[lavish jacinth]

it's like a free trial for dlc content

[urban narwhal]

nice, also i got barrier on kill and missle eq

[lavish jacinth]

can all pop bosses easily

[urban narwhal]

i didnt unlock 3rd item? wait its all unlocked

[lavish jacinth]

bruh

[lavish jacinth]

we said this like 3 times lol

[urban narwhal]

y

[lavish jacinth]

because you keep asking if/why you can use items in trials that you haven't unlocked

[urban narwhal]

ye sorry

[lavish jacinth]

it's fine

[leaden field]

99% sure you couldn't find a scorch worm, probably

[calm kestrel]

no, even when i looked straight down to see where the last one was, there were no arrows

i looked across the entire map

no void enemies

[leaden field]

weird

maybe got stuck in the wall

[lavish jacinth]

void seeds breaking like this isn't unheard of

it was infuriatingly common right after sotv, they mostly fixed it but it seems like it still happens occasionally

[quasi crystal]

Worms like to bug out and hide oob
I think larva can sometimes too

[lavish jacinth]

I would think that you'd still see the purple arrow if that were the case

[livid wedge]

Yeah, enemies that are still in the map but unreachable still have an arrow pointing to them

[calm kestrel]

the arrow doesnt even show

it might be a problem with the console ver

[lavish jacinth]

maaaaybe, but the console and PC versions have way more parity than they used to

[calm kestrel]

and it happens so often too

[lavish jacinth]

hmm

[livid wedge]

I don't think it's an issue with consoles specifically

I play the ps4 and ps5 version without that happening

[calm kestrel]

might just be a problem with my ps4 then

it is kinda old ngl

[lavish jacinth]

seems unlikely

[calm kestrel]

im gonna check if it ror2 needs an upd rq

[lavish jacinth]

does it happen more often at a certain point in a run? or is it like any given void seed has a chance of breaking

bc really late stages sometimes have weird spawning bugs

[calm kestrel]

it said its on the latest ver

[calm kestrel]

its rlly js any void seed

most of the time it happens on the 1st loop

i always just go until i die

i once got to stage 49

then everything stopped spawning altogether

[lavish jacinth]

yeah that happens

[livid wedge]

I don't know how anyone has the patience for 49 stages

No offense intended

[calm kestrel]

it took abt 6 hours...

i had 380 minutes on the run

[livid wedge]

My brain starts to shut off after the second loop

[calm kestrel]

it honestly only felt like an hour and a half

i have adhd and autism so if im focused on something i can do it for literal hours on end

[livid wedge]

I do too and even then I can't do that

Like, I can play for hours but not the same run

[calm kestrel]

i had over 50 brilliant behemoths in that run i think

[lavish jacinth]

furthest I've ever been is like stage 30, but that was years ago

[calm kestrel]

to be fair i was using artifact of command

also for some reason, with mul t the scrapper bomb thingys explosions are larger than a normal shots explosion with brilliant behemoth.

[lavish jacinth]

behemoth doesn't affect the size of other explosions

[rare pawn]

how do i stop getting owned on the bottom of the null portal bc the points are too far away
i tried to do it as engineer in an otherwise amazing run and it got put far away + on the tallest mountain and i was just owned
i had no way to get in that area in time nonetheless that far up

do i just need to play loader

[lavish jacinth]

...unless this is some brand new sots jank, which is unlikely but hard to rule out lol

[vestal gyro]

Hey, I haven't play in a while, but I for sure unlocked those two things, anyone knows why it's locked ?

[quasi crystal]

Are you doing void fields or locus

[lavish jacinth]

either have more move speed or wait for the next patch when they hopefully nerf the fog

[rare pawn]

sad!

i was having a good asf brainless runn

[lavish jacinth]

steam cloud desync maybe? or some other bug, it's hard to say

[calm kestrel]

its still the brilliant behemoth explosion, its just larger than the primary shot

[lavish jacinth]

oh

I mean yeah, that can happen, it's just how behemoth works

it creates a secondary explosion at the point of impact, even on other explosions

[vestal gyro]

I only lost those 2 so that's ok but yeah it may be a random bug

[finite fossil]

Are all of the artifact codes on tablets, or are there also some that are found in the environment? Also, is there a code in every map? I'm having a hard time finding some of the artifacts and I don't want to just look them up

[unborn ore]

Hey, i bought the game recently and wanted to ask if i should use the teleporter asap or should i explore first? Im not sure about the timer and that stuff

[finite fossil]

A little of both, its a balance

[mellow crystal]

generally items are more important than time, but don't waste too much time looking for items

[lavish jacinth]

the wiki has a hint guide if you want help finding them without totally spoiling it, but to answer your question, most of them are on tablets, there are a handful that aren't but there's only one that really deviates from how they normally look. Also, iirc every base game map has one except for sundered grove, although ||not all of them are necessarily in a map in the traditional sense||

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Artifact_Hints

[lavish jacinth]

a good rule of thumb is to full-clear the whole stage and try to leave with more items than minutes

[unborn ore]

Aye, thank you a lot for the help 👀

[finite fossil]

Thanks thats what I thought

suss

[marble magnet]

Ok I have two major questions about simulacrum

1. Can you achieve mastery

2. How the hell do you get yellows?

[lavish jacinth]

1. No, there's no way to win simulacrum
2. They can be a random reward from boss waves, or just use

[marble magnet]

Hmm ok ok

Thanks

[hazy flax]

guys whats the reason for a HUGE amount of gold dropping when i kill enemies
like im talking 300k huge
im tryna figure out the reason for it but i cant

to the point where it lags our game

its not all enemies only some

[lavish jacinth]

how far into the run are you? because enemies do drop tons of gold on late stages

[hazy flax]

ive never had it to this extent before and ive done 130 min runs before

this isnt just gold going into my gold count its literal little gold nuggets falling onto the floor

[lavish jacinth]

ohh

yeah, that's a bug with the gilded aspect iirc

[hazy flax]

whats the glided aspect am i being silly

[lavish jacinth]

the effect that gilded elites have

[hazy flax]

i can send u a screenshot of it if that helps

ohh

[lavish jacinth]

if you have you're probably getting it from that

[hazy flax]

ohh yeah my friend does

[lavish jacinth]

I'm guessing it looks something like this

[hazy flax]

yes extremely similar

i was so confused lol

[lavish jacinth]

it's extra janky on engineer turrets for some reason

[hazy flax]

i am playing engineer rn too so is that what it is

[hazy flax]

so is this basically just a bug with the engineers turrets

[lavish jacinth]

I think engie turrets are the most severe version of it, but there might be other things that trigger it, I'm not really sure.

[prime parcel]

what is this ?

(the chest)

[daring cloak]

Thats a legendary chest, it will always drop a red item

The one you found there is always guaranteed to spawn in that spot

Sundered grove also has a guaranteed legendary chest however that one can spawn in one of several locations

[prime parcel]

thank you. I'm not very experienced rn so knowing a guaranteed red item on this map is gonna be helpful

[lavish jacinth]

All of the stage 4 variants have a guaranteed red, although the one on Siren's Call is obtained by killing the secret boss on that stage rather than a chest

[prime parcel]

what do I do if artifact keys aren't spawning?

I'm doing artifact of command rn (was gonna loop back to obelisk for mercenary) but the keys won't spawn after the first

[lavish jacinth]

just keep killing stuff, one will drop eventually

[daring cloak]

Also for command, the keys are initially dropped as a yellow command essence with only the key as a choice

[prime parcel]

rng might just be slow for me. I got 2 spawned right after asking the question but now its back to taking awhile

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's like that sometimes

[prime parcel]

ok now I killed it but the portal isn't here

can't see the artifact anywhere

[lavish jacinth]

did you jump into the center where the orb thing was and pick it up?

[prime parcel]

here ?

oh wait

I forgot I needed to interact with it

[final sonnet]

Does Eviscerate have shorter range now? It feels like I'm not hitting enemies it should be hitting

[fresh umbra]

Mood

[quasi crystal]

wich dlc is better?

[lavish jacinth]

sotv is the better one to get first imo

[quasi crystal]

alrr

[quasi crystal]

People have reported that it does

[hazy flax]

it just crashed my whole game 😭

level 99 stage 15 it just dropped like 50 million on the floor at once

crashed my entire game

probably not even 50 mill probably a LOT more than that

I'll keep you updated if it unfreezes, I'm invested so I'm gonna wait

[cold creek]

I don't have seekers of the storm, I played it with a friend who had it and that was a while ago, and I heard they made a few changes and bug fixes recently

So what do twisted elites do again?

[lavish jacinth]

they tether themselves to up to 5 nearby enemies, tethered enemies get 300 armor and every time you damage them it charges up an attack from the twisted elite, after 10 hits it fires a spiked ball that homes in on you and inflicts lunar ruin

kinda complicated but tl;dr just shoot the elite itself, not the enemies it's protecting

the old version basically just gave nearby enemies razorwire which was exactly as horrible as it sounds lol

[hazy flax]

update: i rewactehd the clip i took and i gained 1 million money within being in the stage for about 3 seconds so idk how much more money flooded in after that but it completely crashed my game

[cold creek]

Oh yeah don't worry, I had my fair share with that. No matter how far into a god run you are, twisted will ALWAYS be scary because they mess you up so hard

[pliant sundial]

hey if i take the newt alter on the stage right before false son stage, do I go to the false son stage when i leave the shop?

[livid wedge]

Nope

[hazy flax]

go back into the actual run

[unborn ore]

Hey, is there some kind of indicator if i full cleared a stage or is it just learning?

[daring cloak]

Theres no indicator, you just develop a feel for it

[hoary sedge]

there is a mod that gives you completion stats after each stage if you want, I don't use it but it can be good feedback

[lavish jacinth]

can be useful for that when you're still learning the maps, but with more experience you start to get a feel for how much stuff each stage should have

[elder nova]

Is the "verified" achievement bugged? There seemed to be a problem with it as ppl on reddit have pointed out, and I haven't gotten the char despite having done more than 5 runs that went beyond the first tp. Am on PC

[lavish jacinth]

I haven't heard about that specifically but it's possible, there have been some reports of issues with unlocks in general lately

Worst case scenario, you can use the realercheatunlocks mod to force the unlock if it keeps refusing to work

[cunning jay]

Whats the most fun way to play this game?

[viscid delta]

mods

[mellow crystal]

whatever's most fun for you
tho i'd imagine the most boring is enforcer mod with looping and artifact of kin

[elder nova]

Ah, I see. Thanks

[fallen bridge]

i find mostly-vanilla eclipse quite fun but it's just up to preference !

[trim narwhal]

with friends

and make it decently challenging with mods or eclipse or what have you, its a lot spicier when everyone is fighting for their life, having to cooperate and stuff to survive, rather than everyone being gods of death on their own and staring at each other watching everything die

[dreamy charm]

is there a good beginner guide?

just starting and like to min/max stuff.

[plucky owl]

when it says obliterate on monsoon, can i just die any way or do i need to die via the obelisk

[trim narwhal]

try to get a lot of loot, try to get a mix of items, strafing / constantly jumping helps dodging

[trim narwhal]

obelisk

[plucky owl]

ty

[lavish jacinth]

It would be a little silly if you got the "mastery" achievement just for dying lol

[lavish jacinth]

This channel is a great resource, not biased at all

But yeah, best tip for a beginner is to loot as efficiently as you can and don't rush, a good rule of thumb is to full clear every stage and try to leave with more items than minutes. Though its okay to spend a little extra time messing with printers or whatever

[dusky raven]

Has there ever been any documentation of a Halcyon shrine spawning a different gilded enemy when its done charging?

[lavish jacinth]

Not that I've heard of

[dusky raven]

I just had it spawn 3 gilded brass contraptions instead of a gilded halcyonite

[lavish jacinth]

weird

[elder nova]

I've had 2 multiplayer runs now, both suddenly stopped working (as in the enemies wouldn't move, shoots wouldn't hit etc) and I was moved out to the lobby. Is that a bug? Or was I kicked and that just happens?

[lavish jacinth]

also, best way to maximize is always to mix different items, not focus on just one thing. In general items will stack additively with themselves but multiplicatively with each other, especially damage items

[lavish jacinth]

do you have crossplay enabled? Assuming you're on steam

[elder nova]

Yes

[lavish jacinth]

turn it off, and have any friends you're playing with do the same, unless they're actually on EGS and you need it

[elder nova]

Okay, thanks

[lavish jacinth]

crossplay is complete garbage

[elder nova]

I see

[dusky raven]

and when I killed the brass contraptions it spawned the portal

[lavish jacinth]

very strange

[mellow crystal]

artifact reliquary is for unlocking artifacts, it isn't a final boss
for the final boss you need to take the teleporter

[lavish jacinth]

when it disappears you interact with the thing that came out of it to unlock the artifact, then a portal will appear

did you collect the artifact?

[fresh umbra]

Could it have been artifact of kin (idk how those features interact)

[quasi crystal]

Kin doesn't affect special spawns IIRC

[trim narwhal]

yes actually

[dusky raven]

huh

[quasi crystal]

I got the game 2 Days ago i got 4h in it, i got the void dlc and wanted to ask whats the best way to make a build or a good run because i just take all items i can find

[lavish jacinth]

taking all the items you can find is pretty much how you do it tbh

just try to manage your time efficiently, a good rule of thumb is to full-clear every stage and try to leave with more items than minutes

items tend to build on each other, especially damage items, so it's best to get a mix of a bunch of different things so they can multiply each other's effects

some characters will be biased towards certain types of items, like rapid-fire survivors like commando tend to do really well with random proc effects like , whereas slow heavy hitters like railgunner tend to favor reliable multipliers like .
But you don't really have to worry about crafting a perfectly optimal build, for the most part items are designed with randomness in mind and tend to be pretty universal

I do highly recommend turning on the "inspect item" option in settings if you haven't already, it gives you an option to see more detailed descriptions of items and other stuff before you pick them up

[quasi crystal]

thankss!! i didnt know that

[zealous fulcrum]

is there lore in this game if so where can i find it

[quasi crystal]

https://youtube.com/@thegrovetender

https://youtu.be/Wx5V-wC-kew

[prime parcel]

best articifer items ?

[primal vector]

She starts with good damage, so anything that gives mobility is a must (even harpon works well if you are using flamethrower). You will be hit often, so medkit is also good

[mellow crystal]

off the top of my head
damage items like are also good
wanna go for movespeed too like since her acceleration is slower (and also because she just feels slow as fuck midair)

movespeed especially applies to ion surge, idk about flamethrower since i dont use it

[cunning jay]

Didnt even know acceleration was a thing in this game

[mellow crystal]

it's a stat yea
the same for everyone except arti and the robots

[fresh umbra]

Does this mean arti is a robot

[ocean monolith]

I’ve noticed that my biggest struggle during Mithrix is Phase 3
Any tips to improve my performance?

[sacred ingot]

1 - broadening your movement gap vs mithrix's is key here. either by hindering his movement (baubles, freezes) or increasing yours (wax quails, feathers, drinks/goat hooves)
2 - stay relatively close to him during pizza attack. this way the dmg pillars rotate waay slower, becoming easier to dodge

[primal vector]

Adding to that, vertical movement can be a life saver. Mithrix has few means to deal witk airborne threats

[sacred ingot]

question: i just saw for the first time a fruit like enviroment thing in the bazaar, just below the portal platform. i shot it and it exploded. does anyone know about this?

[daring cloak]

Thats a mini geode

If you enter from stage 1 or 2 there will be 3 mini geodes hidden in 3 of 9 possible locations, if you find and break all of them a green portal appears

Good luck searching, some of the spots they can be in are very hidden

[sharp fulcrum]

Hey folks, new dude here, playing on steam deck. I’ve read through the FAQ and can’t seem to find an answer. Is there any matchmaking in game or do people find matches here? There never seems to be any servers.

[wide parrot]

Most people do lfg channels here

[zealous adder]

Is the "MUL-T: Pest Control" achievement bugged? I am using swarms and have done the achievement like 4 times and it hasn't unlocked.

[foggy vessel]

honest thoughts are you guys confident that sots survivors are gonna get fully fleshed out alt skills in p3 of the revamp roadmap

[daring cloak]

No, as far as we know there wont be new alt skills in phase 3 because preston said that they wanted to purely focus on fixing existing content for the roadmap updates

Though that message is quite old now so plans might have changed

[primal vector]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/MUL-T:_Pest_Control

It was bugged up to the artifact update. Maybe the tips on this page can help?

[willow hawk]

do Shrine of Shaping and Artifact of Death not work together?

[zealous adder]

I was checking this as I was attempting it. I can't see anything I'm doing wrong.
Playing MUL-T: check
Artifact of Swarms: Wiki does not say anything about that not counting for the achievement. It even suggests using it.
Two Beetle Queens: Check
Kill both: Check
Never leave TP zone: Check
No achievement.
Repeat like 3 times.
No achievement.

Is it perhaps something to do with the time it takes the Tp zone to expands to its full size?

[lavish jacinth]

possibly, but iirc some other people have had trouble with that achievement as well so it probably is just bugged

[zealous adder]

ok thanks

[wary lintel]

Is ror2 base game worth repurchasing for mods or not?

[high forum]

it's worth purchasing on pc because it runs significantly better than console

[mellow crystal]

i'd say so
there's a shitton of modded content to play around with and a lot of qol fixes too

[wary lintel]

OK thanks

[agile dragon]

On 1st loop and all halcyon shrines are gold, how do i get to false son now?

[mellow crystal]

take gold portal -> beat auri -> take green portal
go to bazaar -> break hidden geodes -> take green portal

[spark oar]

Is there anyway to fix the voidling boss not spawning in during phase 2

not using any mods

[gilded dirge]

loaders best with defaults ye? I tried her alts and I dont think I like most of em, thunder slam can be fun sometimes tho

[daring cloak]

The alt secondary is basically just better

[gilded dirge]

hmmmm

ironically didnt unlock it on this file

so ill have to see

buit iirc she kinda yoloeed her defaults so well

[trim narwhal]

slam is really good if you master grapple spins

can use its speed in conjunction with the punch to increase punch dmg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTGJWNwfO0

jazzboat's e8 itemless loader run used defaults except for thunder slam

[magic dirge]

did my game bug out? there's barriers at the end of defeating mithrix and i can't jump out to head to the rescue ship 😭

[primal vector]

You have to get to the portals that are now moving in the arena

[magic dirge]

like the blue floating orbs???

[primal vector]

Yes, exactly, jump into one of them

[magic dirge]

i havent played the game in a while oh wow thats embarrassing thank you lol

[keen parcel]

If i make an artifact trial Will i loop?

[primal vector]

Yes

[keen parcel]

Alr thanks

[vocal geyser]

can halycon shrines spawn after stage 1?

[marble osprey]

Yes, but they're way less common

[dark wadi]

Why is one of my characters gone

[primal vector]

More information needed to answer that question

[dense summit]

i'm a relatively new player, and i only have one real win with Bandit. Are there any more obscure things i should be doing/general tips to improve? Like progression wise ive been stuck for a while now since half the things id like to do seem impossible to figure out without a guide, and i dont want to spoil myself either

[wide parrot]

Good general tips I can give:

• Learn the map layouts. This makes looting them and finding the teleporter so much easier.
• The teleporter will give off red particles in the air around it to give you a hint to its location. It’s blue on the final stage though.
• Time really doesn’t matter. As long as you have about more items than you do minutes, you should be fine.
• Try to fully loot every stage.

[dense summit]

yeah, i've gotten most of these more or less down, the thing i haven't though is good builds or stuff like that or maybe even more obscure stuff, like maybe hit every newt thingy or something, i dunno?

i've been very conservative with my lunar coins and i think i spent like 3 total

[wide parrot]

well if you’re willing to cheat a lil you can get infinite lunar coins with no mods…

As for builds, just take whatever you can stick to your body lol

[dense summit]

nah, im not looking up what the mf celestial portal is for example so cheats are out of the question 😭

[wide parrot]

It’s literally just editing a text file

[dense summit]

yeah but still

also, just to clear this in my mind, the old guillotine is like the worst item in the game, right?

[wide parrot]

No, but it’s pretty bad

There is worse

[dense summit]

the only way i can see it being useful is if you somehow manage to stack 30 of them and once you just get everything as an elite you need to deal very little damage to kill them, i guess

[wide parrot]

It just makes elites have 16% less health

Not the most useful, but if they become a problem it’s nice to have

[dense summit]

that's runalds and... alien head? are these worth it in the slightest?

[wide parrot]

The bands are some of the best items in the game

[dense summit]

for reference

[wide parrot]

And your loader

get the bands

[daring cloak]

Hell yeah you want bands on loader

In fact your white items are so mediocre, dump em all into runald band soup

[wide parrot]

Go all in on the band economy

[daring cloak]

Actually im just now seeing the crowbar

[wide parrot]

Get maybe 2 bands

[dense summit]

huh? really? aren't energy drinks, tougher times, crystal thing, serum and like, 90% of them seem real good

[wide parrot]

They are ok, but bands are too good

[daring cloak]

Loader doesnt really need movement speed

[wide parrot]

Really all you need there at most is Crowbar and maybe Hoof

[daring cloak]

The focus crystal is very nice yes

Tougher times... you also dont really need that much as loader

[dense summit]

so... should i dump everything i have for the bands? I kinda wanna try doing the void fields thing again, last time i died on the last crystal or however the name is because the enemies got a band and i immediately died

[wide parrot]

plus you have white scrap ()

[daring cloak]

And we are talking about runald bands

One of the best items for loader

[wide parrot]

Don’t go to Vields, it’s a little bugged rn

I would get at least 2 bands

[dense summit]

i want the character though 😭

[wide parrot]

You can always do it later

Come back later in the run when your stronger

[dense summit]

right

like.. stage 4 maybe?

[wide parrot]

I would loop first

[dense summit]

the few times i tried to loop it went well until something got me from max to 0 hp

[wide parrot]

ah yeah, new elite type can spawn that you really need to be aware of

[dense summit]

there's one with an aura around it i cannot dechipher for the life of me what it can do, and what else?

[dense summit]

id assume it slows me down or something

[wide parrot]

Celestine elites have that huge light blue aura. They will make every other enemy in the aura invisible

Malachite Elites create fields of spikes. The damage they deal isn’t the issue, it’s the debuff they give you. They stop all your healing for a short time.

[dense summit]

wait if im now thinking i think there's two auras? a blue and greenish one?

i don't fully remember but if the blue is the celestine then green should be malachite?

[wide parrot]

And finally there is Twisted Elites. They are only part of the SOTS dlc. Everything in their dark blue aura will give the elite energy when they take damage. When the elite has charged up enough energy it will fire a dangerous projectile at you proportional to the damage that you dealt to create it.

[dense summit]

i have both dlcs but i havent enabled them yet

was this worth it?

[wide parrot]

Point being, when these elites spawn you will have to zero in on them

yeah I would say so

You lost crowbar but now you have bands

[daring cloak]

One more

Steak and warbanner are useless here

[wide parrot]

Yeah the whites you have are kinda ass

[dense summit]

oh wait yeah true, warbanner and steak and repulsion suck ass

[wide parrot]

AGAIN

[daring cloak]

No repulsion is pretty good

[wide parrot]

it’s ok, not the greatest on loader

[dense summit]

right, well, i'm satisfied then

i'll go do the next stages, and then try to loop i guess?

got this portal naturally after wetland aspect so i still have more to go

[wide parrot]

yeah keep going

[dense summit]

well, damn 😭

[daring cloak]

Wouldnt risk it

Ukes are really good, quails are alright if your skills are on cooldown and you need to avoid stuff, fuel cell is good in general, Guillotine is the only bad one

Oh and lepton

[dense summit]

lepton and ukulele, from my albeit limited experience, seem like two really bad items

[daring cloak]

No uke is amazing

[dense summit]

i meant guillotine

😭

my bad, brain fart

[daring cloak]

Ye theyre pretty bad

But I would not risk the other stuff

Better to have the bad greens than to not have the good greens

[dense summit]

hope for a scrapper or just go all in?

[daring cloak]

Scrapper

[dense summit]

holy
shit

i want a hardlight so much god damn

alright, what should i scrap here? most of the commons id assume?

[wide parrot]

Steaks and Tri-Tips

[honest badger]

and warbanner

[wide parrot]

I would also scrap Stealthkit, Leaching Seed, and Guillotine

[dense summit]

leaching seed is bad?

[daring cloak]

Its awful

1 hp per hit
1 singular hp

[dense summit]

i valued it so highly every time i saw it 😭

[daring cloak]

And its affected by proc coefficient

[wide parrot]

It’s good on one character with one build

MUL-T with double nailgun power mode

[daring cloak]

And even then harvesters scythe is almost always just better

[honest badger]

it's really good in theory but the values are just too low

[dense summit]

right, so i can get 5 crowbars now, and theres a wisp printer, is it worth it? not sure how well they stack

[honest badger]

if it scaled with damage it would be great

[wide parrot]

Wisps are good, I would get 1 maybe 2

[honest badger]

wisp stacks amazingly

[dense summit]

i also got a bustling fungus in the meantime that i scrapped

[honest badger]

you could scrap tome, id also personally scrap infusion that's up to you

[dense summit]

tome is bad? infusion is bad? 😭 have i been living a lie?

[daring cloak]

Tome is alright

Infusion is horrid though

[honest badger]

tome is especially bad on loader but it's fine for other characters

[daring cloak]

Like infusion is just 4 steaks

[dense summit]

yeah but 100 hp is decent, i feel like?

[honest badger]

you're not really grabbing treasure as loader so you don't benefit from it

[daring cloak]

No because eventually everything will just oneshot you no matter how many hp you have

[honest badger]

it's fine but not worth taking over other items

especially this late

[dense summit]

so, do i just.. scrap both, and more wisps?

what i have rn

[daring cloak]

I'd keep tome