ror2-game-questions

[lavish jacinth]

old knockback fin just knocked enemies a very small distance in the air

[peak jacinth]

I think it was better than war bonds

[lavish jacinth]

that's it

[jaunty snow]

counterpoint: what if you had 1 billion million syringes

[lavish jacinth]

only worked if they were on the ground

[jaunty snow]

nvm

[lavish jacinth]

it took like 10 stacks before they'd even start taking fall damage, and even then it was barely any

[jaunty snow]

don't squid polyps do a better job at knockback

[quasi crystal]

Warbonds didn't kill you
Also warbonds on enemies made them drop extra money

[lavish jacinth]

MUCH better

[jaunty snow]

if you did squid polyp + caffeinator mithrix would basically get pushed out of the arena right

[lyric silo]

polyps are criminally underrated imo

[lavish jacinth]

it is

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's hilarious

[quasi crystal]

Polyps need more love, they aren't nearly as bad as some of the greens that get compared to

[lyric silo]

exactly, theres alot of bad greens and polyp isnt one

[peak jacinth]

acting like transmitter killed you 100% of the time is pretty disingenuous lol

[jaunty snow]

you guys ever stacked like way too many laser scopes and everything just dies

or like any other damage item

[lavish jacinth]

it's definitely not an amazing item but it's good at its job, which is more than can be said for some other bad items

[lyric silo]

what we are saying is that it helped very little when it rarely did and usually just teleported you to a disadvantageous position

[jaunty snow]

didnt transmitter have a bug where it could softlock you

[lavish jacinth]

probably

[peak jacinth]

I think the second half of that is not true

[lavish jacinth]

I haven't heard of that but I would believe it

[jaunty snow]

i've heard it could either send you below the death plane or clip you inside of a rocl

[quasi crystal]

Maruke stop drinking hot sauce

[lyric silo]

my fav is merc dash softlocking you in a crate

[lyric silo]

nah i just think maruke got lucky and their experience wasnt as bad as ours

[lavish jacinth]

1% chance for transmitter to send you directly to gay baby jail

[peak jacinth]

the 2nd half of that statement isn’t based on anything but personal experience, I’ve had transmitter teleport me to great places more than bad places, in which case I can’t possibly say that’s true

[jaunty snow]

the odds of getting transmitter to actually send you to a good place is lower than balatro's fucking wheel of fortune

[lyric silo]

in fairness, if ur experiences have been good with it then fair, although i think most of the community has been less lucky

[lavish jacinth]

even when transmitter did help, it was just really annoying

[wide parrot]

That’s just 25%

[lyric silo]

im addicted to it...

[jaunty snow]

the wheel of fortune in balatro has to be rigged

[wide parrot]

It’s gonna hit this time trust me

[lyric silo]

then how come i never get it...

[wide parrot]

Skill issue

[jaunty snow]

one message has changed the topic of this server

[quasi crystal]

I'm not gonna argue with you on transmitter if you think it was fine pre rework I'm happy for you I wish I saw that green scrap as half full

[wide parrot]

Balatro was mentioned it’s fully warranted

[jaunty snow]

fair

[lavish jacinth]

yeah you're definitely new here

[jaunty snow]

yes i am

[lyric silo]

doing a gold sticker all challenge and the game just will never blesses me with luck

[lavish jacinth]

this happens all the time lol

[peak jacinth]

ok well that’s an entirely different argument

I don’t think an item being annoying makes it bad

like bottled chaos

[wide parrot]

BC is rarely annoying

[peak jacinth]

yes

[quasi crystal]

I like bottled chaos but can admit it's not good

[peak jacinth]

I agree with you

[jaunty snow]

wait a second can the artifact of soul wisps proc artifact of honor

[lyric silo]

the main chat is much worse

[wide parrot]

Even if you get an effect you weren’t expecting you can still use it your advantage

[lyric silo]

i love bhaos but yeah its not great viable wise

[wide parrot]

With old transmitter every time it went off you were just disoriented

[lavish jacinth]

nah, the soul wisps don't do shit

[quasi crystal]

Getting egged when you're locked in is heart rate shattering

[lavish jacinth]

(also I assume you mean sacrifice)

[jaunty snow]

well anyway honor + sonorous whispers is already too op

[lyric silo]

just wish egg was blacklisted

[jaunty snow]

also no i mean artifact of honor because of whispers

[lavish jacinth]

oh

[peak jacinth]

sure, but the item was purely experience based, so I’m not gonna base my rating of it on all of you

[jaunty snow]

this conversation on the time axis is more distanced than a long-distance relationship

[lyric silo]

my point is that ur the exception, not the rule since most ppl in the community have had bad experiences

[quasi crystal]

The item wouldn't have been completely reworked if the people who disliked it were the minority

[lyric silo]

that too

[jaunty snow]

i have the most hot take in existence

[lyric silo]

vand good?

[quasi crystal]

Dole good

[jaunty snow]

i do agree with that but the thing i was going to say was that transmitter should be supernerfed

[peak jacinth]

and again, that shouldn’t matter in my rating of the item

[lyric silo]

undoubtedly

[lavish jacinth]

that's like, a room temperature take at most

[quasi crystal]

Dole saved me once in coop in vields we got vultures with crowbars and tougher times and without it I wouldn't have escaped as the last alive
Dole saved my life

[lavish jacinth]

I think most people think it should get a nerf

[jaunty snow]

singularity band is an actually good item (also what is dole i am stupid)

[lyric silo]

you should consider the general experiences of other ppl due to u being especially lucky with it i think tho

[lavish jacinth]

they sell bananas or smth

[quasi crystal]

is dole

[lyric silo]

love dole

[quasi crystal]

It's a joke from an for YouTuber

Ror*

[peak jacinth]

I didn’t like the item, cuz I thought it was boring and didn’t really have a fun design, but I don’t think it was the worst item ever

[lyric silo]

disputed isnt it

[quasi crystal]

Yeah

[jaunty snow]

i dont know what item that is grah

[quasi crystal]

It heals you for 50%

[lyric silo]

dole

[quasi crystal]

It's not good but it will get you by if you have nothing bette

[jaunty snow]

that doesn't seem too terrible

[quasi crystal]

Cool down

[lyric silo]

its a pretty bad item

[lavish jacinth]

it gets outclassed by so many other equipments, including other healing equips

[peak jacinth]

I know people who have been lucky, I know people who have been unlucky, on an objectively luck based item I will base my opinion on my experience alone

[jaunty snow]

ok fair it does have a 45s cooldown but still

[quasi crystal]

You have and for healing

[lavish jacinth]

it really is a "better than nothing" item

[jaunty snow]

caffeinator is like a jack of all trades item

[lyric silo]

alr 🟪

[lavish jacinth]

it's funny because iirc it was actually great in ror1 if you had a shitload of health from infusion, since %-based healing barely existed

[jaunty snow]

caffeinator can be single-target damage, it can be aoe, it can be healing, it can be what you want it to be

[quasi crystal]

Ror1 or rorr

[lyric silo]

infusion is actually good in that game (rorr)

[quasi crystal]

Because rorr meat chunks seem to be good

[jaunty snow]

infusion is a good item i just don't like how it changes the hp color

[lyric silo]

infusion in ror2 isnt very good

[jaunty snow]

i meant in ror2. fight me.

[lavish jacinth]

I mostly meant ror1, I think healing is a little better off in rorr, maybe? I can't remember lol

[lyric silo]

a flat non scaling increase to the least important stat in the game is quite bad

[quasi crystal]

It's not terrible

[jaunty snow]

i mean, it's an ok item, not very viable

[lavish jacinth]

it's on the low end of greens but certainly not the worst thing ever

[lyric silo]

its fine to have on rlly low survivors early game as one stack but otherwise its scrap for me

[jaunty snow]

also there was once a really niche bug where shaped glass didnt affect infusion

[full apex]

health does make most healing better

and 100 is decent. it just falls off a bit

[lavish jacinth]

you might be thinking of ror1 infusion + artifact of glass, I think. I don't remember that ever being a thing in ror2

[jaunty snow]

it was a thing in ror2 for like, a day, it was insanely busted

[lyric silo]

id just much rather increase my damage negation, speed, or even just directly increase my healing

[peak jacinth]

the only health that matters is the last health (unless you have a watch)

[full apex]

10% at lvl 20 is ~73

and 10% is pretty good. so infusion stays relevant for a bit when its full

[full apex]

not if you have healing

[opal kernel]

i mean the thing where you start with extra gold

[jaunty snow]

wait hold on does it mean 100 total and not 100 per kill at maximum

[opal kernel]

i know it was kinda delayed

[full apex]

100 instantly in one kill would make the on kill mechanic basically useless haha

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's only in prismatic trials

[opal kernel]

ok

[jaunty snow]

oh lol, anyway i gtg byebye

[lyric silo]

wish it worked like rorr infusion maybe then itd be somewhat useful imo

[full apex]

infinite health is busted tho

[lyric silo]

yeah ik

its just infusion is not great

[full apex]

idk
i think its fine

[lyric silo]

and yes infinite health would be op in a game like ror2 with alot of killing

its more balanced in rorr cause theres not the insane chainkills and stuff as ror2 and less enemies

[full apex]

like being generally around or better than 10% hp on a green is average stat value, steak is weak as a white because its liss than 1/3 of that and i think white to green tends to be around 1/3 stat wise

though balance has been getting more and more fucked as time goes on

[lavish jacinth]

I imagine infusion miiiight have been rebalanced around the existence of printers, since printing a few infusions early on can be pretty nice

[full apex]

overcapping it is fnuuy too

with a few stacks you can get a decent bit out of it too

[lyric silo]

i generally wouldnt use greens early on for infusion printers unless im full of stuff like harpoon and pauldron

[bitter glade]

is multiplayer still broken?

[lavish jacinth]

define broken

[bitter glade]

that gives me my answer

[lyric silo]

no, it doesnt

what

[bitter glade]

does it work

[lyric silo]

yes

[bitter glade]

like can i play with other people

[lavish jacinth]

yes

[full apex]

its not obvious, so theres not a major bug, so asking to clarify means its useable which answers their question i think

[lyric silo]

guhhh im so tired

[bitter glade]

ok cool

i thought since he said "define broken" it wasnt gonna delete my save file but it wasnt gonna work well

[lavish jacinth]

crossplay is still terrible and you shouldn't use it, the netcode is as janky as ever, there are probably some minor bugs, but it works

[bitter glade]

ight cool

thank you

[lyric silo]

nothing will ever be as buggy an experience as subnautica multiplayer

[lavish jacinth]

skyrim multiplayer:

[lyric silo]

oh god

[quasi crystal]

You all don't know true suffering until you've tried to set up an Uno lobby

[lime marsh]

been trying to learn host skip, I keep going way too far forward and I can't figure out how to stop doing this, anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

[lavish jacinth]

I thought it was patched but I guess I'm stupid
I think you need to hold forward more once you're actually going up, you hold neutral on the way down but once you bounce back up you have to adjust your position

[quasi crystal]

mods

[lavish jacinth]

I'm too tired to think right now

[quasi crystal]

i too was struggling on host skipping lol i got it once then on the fall back down i didnt go upwards anymore

[lyric silo]

im way too tired to uhhhhhhhhhhh

[crystal blade]

Whats the easiest way to get demons and the crabs

[lavish jacinth]

loop to stage 6 titanic plains and chase them off the edge, preferably with a knockback ability that does no damage like railgunner mines or rex boop

avoid stuff like tesla coil that might kill them by accident and maybe turn off dlcs so that plains is easier to get

[livid wedge]

is a good item for it

[signal tundra]

How do I get to mythrix, it seems like it's random chance on stage 5, I've played like 8 runs and only got him once

[lavish jacinth]

just leave through the teleporter without realigning the prong things around its edge, and don't take any other portal

every portal besides the teleporter (or void portal but that's a whole other thing) will cause you to loop

[jaunty snow]

i am back

[twin anvil]

Its the void dlc good

[mellow crystal]

yes

[turbid hinge]

what is the easiest way to unlock rex

loader?

[quasi crystal]

whoever youre best at speedrunning with

[crude hemlock]

yeah pretty fun, the new items are p cool

I got the latest DLC yesterday, some whacky items in it for sure. Tried the zenyata monk person on monsoon, that was a mistake

doing helldivers inputs commands while getting wailed on was hard

did finish with Void guy, now to do it with Rex..

[peak jacinth]

if you’re playing multiplayer then it’s retool MULT, if not then really anyone

[viral sorrel]

id say engi cause turrets can draw aggro away from you

[turbid hinge]

guys I knoe that for flamethrower crits are rolled only once for all of the ticks at the start

does that apply to any procs or are the rest rolled tick by tick basis?

[lavish jacinth]

It does apply to procs, yeah. If the initial hit is a crit then every proc that comes from it will be a crit, and vice versa

Except charged perforator, because it's dumb and uses random crit chance instead of inheriting crit

[peak jacinth]

if you mean will every tick of flamethrower proc (as in the proc is rolled at the beginning) then no

that’s exclusive to crit, damage bursts like shotguns roll crit once but usually everything else individually

[crude hemlock]

id have said Loader since you can basically speed run it on drizzle with no items and cant take fall damage

my mate failed it 3 times as he would try to play normally and do it, and took the HP cut in half shrines lol

[peak jacinth]

yea I mean loader is really strong so that’s perfectly reasonable, but tbh it doesn’t actually matter who you play, just whatever you find easiest

[hoary sedge]

yeah the real answer is just whoever you're the best at not getting hit as

[signal tundra]

Can I combo these 2 to never have a delicate watch break?

[lavish jacinth]

No, shields count as max health

[signal tundra]

Ok thanks

I'm in a run right now and I'm trying to kill mythrix and I'm debating on getting the heretic, but what will happen to my abilities on hiw 4th stage when he takes my items?

[high forum]

He doesn't take those items

[crude hemlock]

i was oddly just about to ask what you get if anything for finishing a heretic run/on monsoon?

[high forum]

Nothing

[signal tundra]

What about the mastery skin for the character you start as?

[turbid hinge]

nice arti run

[turbid hinge]

I meant that yh

[turbid hinge]

wait really, I didnt mean this but nice to know

[turbid hinge]

u get it

[crude hemlock]

ah ok thats something atleast

[icy surge]

Hey guys, im trying to just play with my friend for the first time in multiplayer, but no idea how to actually join eachothers lobbies, any help?

[lavish jacinth]

are you on steam?

[icy surge]

yeah

[lavish jacinth]

make sure you both have crossplay turned off, then you should just be able to send an invite through steam

[icy surge]

off, not on

[lavish jacinth]

correct

[icy surge]

alright

[lavish jacinth]

crossplay is notoriously glitchy, and if it's enabled you can only join other crossplay games. So it's best to keep it turned off

[icy surge]

ah I see

[lavish jacinth]

it's only between steam and epic games so you're not missing out on anything

[icy surge]

okayokay thank you so much

[lavish jacinth]

np

[lavish jacinth]

you won't get it as heretic

[lavish jacinth]

no you don't

you get her survivor log and it counts for eclipse progress, but no survivor-specific unlocks since she's a separate character

[foggy jewel]

Hello everyone, new player here
I've been playing for a week (no DLCs, on rainstorm only), and so far managed to get to Mithrix thrice, but every time it felt weird, like I'm basically tickling him to death until he hits me twice within 20 seconds and then it's over (I reached phase 3 in every attempts)
I think that feeling comes from the fact that he's so much faster than everything else in the game, but I probably could improve my playstyle, so does anyone has some advice? (other than git gud/skill issue, I already know that)
(I don't really have a survivor of choice, but Loader, Commando and Acrid feel the best to me for now) (I also like Bandit but he has a lot of bad matchups)

[lavish jacinth]

the mithrix fight is kind of a war of attrition unless you've got a god run going, for the most part you'll just want to stay at a medium distance and punish him when he's vulnerable, usually right after an attack.
Try to stay near the ramps, verticality is incredibly strong in that fight since most of his attacks are melee, so having a consistent way to get above him gives you a ton of safety. Just be ready to get close to him when he starts doing big spinny in phase 3 (if you haven't seen that yet, you'll know what that is when it happens), he always alternates between spinny and the big ground shockwave attack once he's under 75% hp so you can sorta predict it.
Drones also help a lot, especially with bandit's cloaking. Mithrix's AI is as dumb as any other enemy and he gets distracted easily, so with drones drawing aggro he'll spend half the fight flailing around trying to swat them out of the air

oh yeah, and without spoiling too much, ||be ready for phase 4. It's not actually that hard, just don't panic and be ready to run for cover- it's pretty easy if you just play it safe and poke him to death from a distance||

also just for runs in general, make sure you're looting as much as you can, a pretty common new player mistake is panicking over the timer and rushing straight for the teleporter without grabbing any items

[foggy jewel]

ok thanks
I actually thought the opposite, I thought I was taking too much time to get every chest I could find, reaching him with the timer between 65-75mins (without looping) and having to fight him when he's 15+ levels higher than me. But maybe that's not the first thing to worry about
And I haven't tried using the ramps, that's something I'll def look into for the next time

...maybe I'll just try to kite him to death with Acrid
he won't be able to tank forever if he's losing 1% of his health every second

[lavish jacinth]

nah, time management is more about efficiency than speed- a good rule of thumb is to full-clear every stage and try to at least leave with more items than minutes, with a little extra time set aside to use printers and scrappers and stuff.
Items are how you get stronger, you will never outrun the timer no matter how fast you go. And it actually speeds up by about 15% for every stage you clear, so you really wanna make the most of every stage.

also yeah, kiting him with acrid is totally viable, you don't even really need to worry about having enough damage in that case (although multipliers like do work on poison, so that can still help)

[turbid hinge]

I was told b4 u get it

[lavish jacinth]

unless gearbox changed it, you were told wrong

I distinctly remember not getting bandit's mastery on the first try because I ended the run as heretic lol

[wary lintel]

What's the best difficulty, character and artifacts for the best loop experience (4 loops then voidling)

[lavish jacinth]

i mean... drizzle if you want it to be easy
monsoon will be harder initially but by loop 4 it won't really matter since enemies will be max level

max level enemies on rainstorm and monsoon are exactly the same, monsoon just reaches it sooner. and the only difference with drizzle is that you get extra damage resistance

although I guess monsoon will still end up with more director credits but again, by loop 4 you're usually so overpowered that it hardly matters. You'll start seeing scavengers sooner ig so that's something

[wary lintel]

So you reach scavengers quickest at monsoon

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, usually around stage 8 or 9

compared to around 15 on rainstorm and around 20 on drizzle

[wary lintel]

ok thanks

funnest survivor for looping?

[ionic igloo]

whatever survivor you normally find fun will still apply after looping

Huntress with Flurry is good since she has a much greater chance of being close to capping crit

if you loop for too like all survivor gameplay will devolve into the same state anyways, where you hit one thing and a proc chain reaction wipes the map

[wary lintel]

ok thanks

[ionic igloo]

Another thing that I guess would be survivor specific is getting to a point where Void Fiend is always corrupted due to crits + stacking void items

Or False Son getting enough HP boosts to kill things just by spamming Lunar Nails

[lime marsh]

ty for the response (I forgot to respong initially ), apparently the issue was just that artificer is one of the 2 characters that can't do this because of how their momentum works

[lavish jacinth]

I'm pretty sure she can still do it, the timing for holding jump is just a little different

there are also other spots that might work better, like off the side of the bridge

[daring cloak]

Her jetpack kinda messes up the tech so you wanna let go of jump as soon as you get warped back on stage

[foggy jewel]

Using the ramps and kiting with Acrid was the way, finally beat him (and phase 4 was trivial thanks to poison)
...having 10 armor piercing rounds definitely helped
Thanks for the tips

[lavish jacinth]

np, glad I could help

[winter arch]

what do points in the end of a run give

[peak jacinth]

bragging rights

[daring cloak]

They dont give anything

[topaz hill]

useless

[daring cloak]

Theyre just there so you can have a semi solid guide on how well your runs went compared to each other (though at higher difficulties its not really effective)

[warped pecan]

I feel like if you ignored the gold measurement you could probably get a better idea

[daring cloak]

True true

[quasi crystal]

Does the expose transfer tech on focused assault stack expose or apply one stack then immediately use it and reapply

[lavish jacinth]

the latter

[quasi crystal]

Figured ty

[waxen belfry]

How much harder is dlc than base game

[high forum]

the final boss is a little unbalanced (against the player), but otherwise not that much harder

[lavish jacinth]

SotV adds some new enemies and mechanics that can make things a little harder, but both DLCs add some very strong items that help balance it out

[turbid whale]

mid run rn and trying to finish a commando quest, and the artifact portal isnt spawning even tho i killed the boss
how do i fix this?

istg if i have to throw away this 1 hr run ima crash out

[lavish jacinth]

you got the softlock bug, rip. Nothing you can do but quit out

[turbid whale]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i wasted an hour for nothing :c

[lavish jacinth]

to be fair.... it's a roguelike, that's just how they are

and normal runs take like an hour anyway

[turbid whale]

reasonable

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah, it's a shitty way to have to end the run. Hopefully fixed next patch

[turbid whale]

i just really wanna finish up commandos items :c

[cinder pasture]

is mercenary any actual good? like is there anything good about it or am i just complete ASS?

[lavish jacinth]

it is possibly a skill issue yes
merc is decently strong if you know how to use him, definitely not broken like false son or loader or whatever, but not weak either

it helps if you know about the tech with expose though

[cinder pasture]

should i just play him untill i do good or like is there something that i just wont get about it

[cinder pasture]

whats the tech?

[lavish jacinth]

if you dash (or use any skill, really) right at the start of his 3rd sword swing, it'll carry the sword hitbox through the dash instead of cancelling it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901453834256404/820804193493057586/imagine_taking_visions_on_merc.mp4?size=4096

it can net you a ton of extra damage and expose, it takes some practice to learn the timing but it's worth it

[cinder pasture]

is mercenary just reliant on that?

[lavish jacinth]

nah, he can work fine without it. But it's a nice extra tool to have in your arsenal

but utilizing expose in general is a major part of what makes merc work, tech or not. It's like hitting weakpoints as railgunner

merc is actually at his best in dense crowds where you can capitalize on his huge hitboxes and get more expose procs, he basically gets stronger the more overwhelmed he is.

[cinder pasture]

how do i know if i actually land the tech, like i cant tell because it doesnt look any different

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, you'll get a ton of expose procs when you otherwise wouldn't

he's not using the dash that gives expose normally (and it's not delayed like focused assault would be)

I find it helps if you do it at point blank range so you can take advantage of the hitpause as soon as the sword hitbox comes out

this might also help https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2632486396

slightly outdated, I think the slam thing has been patched out with the physics changes. Otherwise still a good guide

[cinder pasture]

it looks like i am dashing and swining at the same time but i am not getting the procs

how close is the window?

[lavish jacinth]

it's at the VERY start of the attack. Swing first and then dash immediately after, almost at the same time but you need to use primary first

it'll be easier if you do one swing at a time instead of holding m1

[cinder pasture]

i did

once

[lavish jacinth]

it takes practice but you get the hang of it

it also gets harder the more attack speed you have, although the hitpause trick helps with that

[cinder pasture]

is the trick to do just it like fraction of a fraction after you do final m1 like close enough to not be able to tell

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much, I'm not sure what the actual window is but it's gotta be within the first few frames of the sword animation

[cinder pasture]

oh yeah even without that tech he is just i frames, that alt r move worth unlocking?

slicing winds?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, swinds is great

it's a slightly different playstyle, you're trading some iframes and mobility for more damage and a ranged option

[tired atlas]

How do I keep engineer turret alive in high wave simulacrum? Monsters keep killing turrets.

[lavish jacinth]

better placement, usually you want them on high ground or other spots where enemies can't get at them as easily (or clip them into a wall if you're feeling cheesy)

also bungus/elixir

[tired atlas]

Thanks

[fast briar]

Its hell to unlock but I got it yesterday, can confirm that its worth, you should also try to get the alternate M2 (uppercut) since it has way more damage potential and although you trade trimping for it its very high damage
If you don't have it yet just enable artifact of command, find an equipment chest and use milky chrysalis along with your dash and other mobility abilities to stay in the air for 30 seconds easily

[slim spoke]

hey uhm bit late but rising thunder is actually doable itemless
just need some bosses around to juggle around (and pray for titans/pests not to spawn, they kill you very swiftly if not paid enough attention ugh)

[fast briar]

I know, tried to get it on distant roost by constantly flying up but it kept teleporting me back so I got pissed off lol

With chrysalis its the fastest and easiest way

[slim spoke]

for sure it is
but i still think hovering with beetle queen at distant roost is the easiest
close seconds still

[trim narwhal]

on a lot of stage 1 maps you can just ghet up to a really high spot and just jump down while spamming abilities and you get it

anyways, is there anyway to charge a m1m2 slam without whipping out a m1, tired of wasting lumishot like this

[lavish jacinth]

there's no way to do it without m1, but lumi won't get used if you don't hit anything, so just turn around or back up enough that the initial swing misses

[trim narwhal]

mm

false son is so strong but really janky to play at times, between this and needing to spam non-agile m2 for speed and the weird 3.0/1.0 aerial slam difference

did they patch that actually, i havent really played or looked at ror2 stuff for a long while

[lavish jacinth]

nah, nothing about him changed

[trim narwhal]

not being able to dash while charging slam makes it feel kinda weird to m1 air from farther away and have to slowly walk up, vs m1 air and then charge and then dash up at least

id take some nerfs to numbers for some mechanical "buffs" like this tbh

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, hopefully that's what they do

it's stupid how strong he is but he feels clunky to play

[daring cloak]

Thats kinda the intended design tbh

[trim narwhal]

although tbh i think mechanical buffs with current numbers would still be in a similar tier with other OP survivors anyways so i guess its "fine" if numbers stay the same

[daring cloak]

Iirc suncles said something similar to false son being supposed to be a construct gone mad

[trim narwhal]

doesnt false son boss himself do slamcharge into dash, i dont think its necessary to make him janky to play

[daring cloak]

An unhinged construct

[trim narwhal]

visual design and animations can cover that

[lavish jacinth]

in that case I don't like their design choice lol
I don't think characters should be balanced around feeling clunky

[daring cloak]

That was the wording

[lavish jacinth]

void fiend does a better job at feeling unhinged imo

false son doesn't really feel unhinged, just unfinished

[trim narwhal]

when i think unhinged i think feral animal gorilla rampage or something, not really slowly walking up with a charged club and needing to pause and shoot out spikes to get to places faster

[daring cloak]

Oh yeah absolutely

Especially the spikes annoy me

But dashing before charging slam doesnt seem that bad to me

Especially once you got some attack speed going

[trim narwhal]

its usually fine but its getting annoying with lumishot since u dont want to waste the mandatory m1

so u cant dash too close

[lavish jacinth]

the spikes not being agile doesn't bother me, that's just how skills work in ror2 by default. But transitioning to spikes from using other skills could feel a lot smoother

[daring cloak]

Thats a lum issue not a fs issue

[trim narwhal]

its pretty easily fixed by changing false son mechanics eg letting u dash during charge or like holding m2 first then m1 skips the mandatory m1 swipe

[daring cloak]

Its just annoying that the spikes are used to get faster... but because it stops sprinting you have to get slower

With other attacks like that the intent isnt on getting faster

Its especially bad that the rhythm at which you tap sprint again slows down because you gradually lose attack speed from using the spikes

[trim narwhal]

well, sometimes you can merc default m2 on ground for a small dash, but have to sprint again, id take agile on m2 there too lol

[daring cloak]

Honestly the main problem with the spikes is how horribly slow their base fire rate is

Sometimes I wish I could just expend them all at the same time

[vast forum]

does going into a newt shop mess up the false son route?

[quasi crystal]

yes but theres a chance the newt shop will have a false son stage or the gilded coast

[twin valley]

idk if this is so much a game uestion but why is false sons boss music labeled part 1 of the path of the colossus tracks ive never understood that

[crude hemlock]

what on earth happened here (edit:uploading clip)

we went in fully ready to get deleted as i had just spent 5++ mins on the last stage running for my life with my mate dead

obv missing my friends audio so im just laughing to nothing

[jaunty snow]

hello it is me again

[quasi crystal]

how many do you need to outheal void fog in e5

[lavish jacinth]

war bonds

[crude hemlock]

so it just goes nuts? i think thats the first time ive had it

[lavish jacinth]

it deals a % of the boss's health, plus it procs and scales with multipliers. It's pretty broken

[crude hemlock]

i seee

yeah when i shot him and it did basically nothing

i laughed

then when that went off, laughed in confusion

[lavish jacinth]

3 for void fields, every other source of void fog increases damage the longer you're in it so they can't be outhealed, at least not forever

but vields does a fixed 2.5% of your health per second iirc and wungus heals 1% per second with e5

[full apex]

natural regen can help a little as well. is it still % max? or did they change it back to % current. i cant rember

ah damn its still max. with % current you could stabilize and have regen outheal in some cases haha

it did look like 2.5% tho. also sounds right

[velvet cedar]

Is the most recent dlc worth it? I see reviews are still mostly negative on Steam

[high forum]

Yes, it's good and fun, and works much better than it did on launch.

[golden quail]

How do i get the bonus boss on sirens call that givesa legendary ( i saw it in some videos but cant figure out how to figth it)

[nocturne sierra]

Destroy the eggs around the map

[twin anvil]

Ok

[crude hemlock]

You have to shoot/blow up like..6 piles of egg nests

They are usually around the tower side of the map

[small fog]

is the viscous falls logbook absurdly rare or something? its the last one im missing but no matter how many looping runs ive done I cant seem to get it

I use sacrifice and command to increase the spawn chances but nothing happens

[winged ermine]

Ive completed the event on prime meridian and got the skin for railgunner, but every time i reload the game the skin dissapears. Can someone help?

[nocturne sierra]

Honestly I have this same problem but with the shattered abodes night variant, maybe it’s just our luck

[lavish jacinth]

it's a known issue on consoles, afaik there's nothing you can do but wait for a fix

[marble osprey]

Idk but I have it and I don't loop all that much so I think you're just unlucky
I do think the night variant of shattered abodes is still glitched tho afaik

[cinder pasture]

what is the strongest projectile from any survivor

[lavish jacinth]

diablo strike

[cinder pasture]

how is that a projectile

[lavish jacinth]

because it is? at least as far as the game is concerned

[cinder pasture]

ok thanks for the help

[lavish jacinth]

if you wanted something that's more of a traditional projectile then probably nanobomb

[cinder pasture]

nah diablo strike works

is there a damage cap?

[lavish jacinth]

not that I'm aware of, but if there is it would probably be 2,147,483,647

[cinder pasture]

arent there decimal numbers?

[lavish jacinth]

I mean yeah, but that's the integer limit. The game might work around that though, since I know final bosses can have more health than that if you loop enough

I just don't know off the top of my head

[cinder pasture]

why would it be the integer limit if there a decimal values. wouldnt that mean they are either using a float or place value variable or a string holder

[nocturne sierra]

Does the beetle guard have 5 eyes, or 4 eyes on the side and a glowy thing on top

[lavish jacinth]

5

[nocturne sierra]

Ok thanks

[grim prism]

is there a link to see the completed logbook to see which ones im missing, including both dlcs

[nocturne sierra]

I mean you could probably just go to the wiki

[grim prism]

does it have them in order?

or would i jsut compare them all to the ones i have?

[nocturne sierra]

No, but if your looking for the text the log books have itle probably have them

[nocturne sierra]

What are you trying to compare?

[grim prism]

i just want to fill out all my monster logs and environement logs and want to figure out which ones i dont have

[nocturne sierra]

When I get home from where I am now, I can send you a picture of the almost complete log book, the only one I’m missing is the night version of shattered abodes

If you want

[grim prism]

yeah that would be nice, i was also gonna ask yeah if the alternate varient stages also have radar scanners

[nocturne sierra]

Yeah the do, though the shattered abodes night one is bugged I think, and the one for treetop colony can appear again even if you already have it

[grim prism]

ah ok thanks for letting me know

[trim narwhal]

its pretty high at least

[nocturne sierra]

Also if you want a quick way to get monster logs, you can just stack clovers by either using artifacts of command, or command and devotion

[cinder pasture]

so at least like 4

[grim prism]

yeah i remember doing that when trying to get voidling, i just dont remember the last 2 monsters i waws missing

im assuming theres no good way to get radio scanners to spawn

[trim narwhal]

idk what actual cap is, but its not really relevant in gameplay

[nocturne sierra]

Apparently using command and sacrifice will increase the chance because it gets rid of stuff on the map, idk though, that’s what I’ve heard

[trim narwhal]

if you'd like to get big numbers, easiest way to start off would be shaped glass stacking as its exponential. although you cant just get a million glass since you instadie past 128 or smth

[cinder pasture]

challenge accepted

[grim prism]

ooo interesting will keep that in mind

[mellow crystal]

that is one higher than the 64-bit integer limit

[trim narwhal]

not really a challenge but if u want to go for it sure ig, its just that everything on the map will be dying way before then is what i mean lol

[cinder pasture]

yeah what? maybe because it cant be zero so it adds one?

[nocturne sierra]

Also quick question is the console bug where you do split screen and it deletes your data, does that still exist or has that been patched

[stable beacon]

hey, i've got a question about crossplay, so if i have risk of rain on my pc and my friend has it on a nintendo switch, could we play together or no?

[wintry fjord]

No

[stable beacon]

ok thanks for letting me know

[wintry fjord]

They rly should add cross play

[stable beacon]

Yeah, they ahould

*should

[wintry fjord]

My friend has it on the switch too, I have it on PS5 and it's so annoying not being able to play

[stable beacon]

Yeah, my friend wanted me to ask before he got it

I'm glad I did

[untold nimbus]

Hey guys I need some help. I redownload the game on my switch (my PC is broken) and for some reason nkuhntas opinion isn't unlocked but I went to the cave and the skeleton isn't there. Any ideas on how to fix this?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's a thing that can happen. If you get a big AoE like gasoline, it can sometimes hit the skeleton from above ground and destroy it, but for some reason it won't trigger the unlock even though it should.
There isn't a fix, I think it's generally a known bug but it might be worth a #1172187541349347429 anyway if you want.

[untold nimbus]

Thank you very much for letting me know

[small fog]

hmm alright

[low trail]

Hey, if my friend and I are doing sirens call secret boss and I die, will I still get the loader if my friend beats the boss?

[wheat flicker]

does the achievement to inflict poison for Acrid count blight too?

[quasi crystal]

Isn't that the achievement to unlock blight

[wheat flicker]

no its to change his shift

the one for blight is to kill 50 enemies that are at 1 hp

[quasi crystal]

Ohh

[peak jacinth]

no it doesn’t

has to be poison

[wheat flicker]

I see

thanks

[peak jacinth]

sure

[mellow crystal]

afaik as long as the achievement doesn't state "without dying" (like with bandit's unlock) yes

[low trail]

okay thank you, i was checking because of specifically that achievement that i had to do 2x bc of that

[strong scarab]

weird question - but anyone know of a fix for profile name font being squished in the info screen i.e. the box seems too small and the profile name continues underneath?"

[haughty herald]

does anyone know if the seekers of the storm dlc on xbox has been fixed?

[livid wedge]

Been fixed for a while

[wheat flicker]

why did they make Loader's grapple make you stop running

[lavish jacinth]

probably because sprinting doesn't really affect grapple movement anyway

[wheat flicker]

really?

it might just be bc the FOV changes but I feel like it's faster when I start running mid grapple

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it's just an optical illusion from the fov change

but grappling is physics-based movement so it's unaffected by move speed and sprinting

[wheat flicker]

I might just be inexperienced but Loader feels really slow to play

[wheat flicker]

makes sense

[lavish jacinth]

define slow
because she's easily the fastest character in the game if played right

but she's also focused more on dealing really slow, strong hits rather than dealing constant damage like most survivors do

[wheat flicker]

if I give an equipment drone the backup radio on Captain, will the spawned drones have my microbots?

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[mellow crystal]

probably just need to get used to her
loader grapple is great for getting you right where you wanna be

[wheat flicker]

wow yeah

I literally just got her

[lavish jacinth]

the skill ceiling for loader is insane

[wheat flicker]

it seems like she can't deal with flying enemies that well tho

unless you just grapple above them

[mellow crystal]

you mostly have to line them up for a punch yea, which can get annoying
pylon usually deals with them well enough tho since the tricky ones are mostly only the fragile ones

one of the many reasons i don't use loader's alt skills tbh

[marble osprey]

On the other hand, loader's alt grapple can kill wisps and pull other flying enemies onto the ground

[lavish jacinth]

technically alt grapple and alt gauntlet are both better for dealing with flying enemies

[wheat flicker]

does her alt grapple pull enemies to you? instead of pulling you to them

[primal terrace]

It pulls "small" enemies to you

[wheat flicker]

ah

also do you know if I get stuck in Bulwark's Ambry if the artifact thing falls off the map?

it deadass vanished after a bit

nvm

[wheat flicker]

is the TC-280 a guaranteed spawn?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

unless you're not going for the captain achievement, then you'll get like 3 of them

[steady stone]

it uses the same credit system as everything else, worth 2.5 chests iirc

not in gold, but in spawning values, since it can spend so much per stage in order to make each one random
all part of the director

[lavish jacinth]

which also means that turning on sacrifice and command increases their spawn rate

removing chests, printers and scrappers means you get more drones and shrines

[quasi crystal]

Even worse, rpd has increased weight for drones

There's an id for a tc drone boss fight wonder what they were planning with that (or maybe debug toolkit just adds random shit to the next boss command)

[steady stone]

maybe interact, fight it, keep it? like acrid in the other games, where you have to free him?

[quasi crystal]

It's specifically for the tp but hmm maybe

[lavish jacinth]

the 280 working like a bet-c in DRG would've been cool

[quasi crystal]

Yeah I was thinking of bet c

But the drone would have to be good for that to be worth it

[lavish jacinth]

I was gonna suggest that it might be that, or it's somehow related to the tc's that used to spawn during the old escape sequence, but if it's a tp boss then I have no idea

[steady stone]

i mean, is there anything to the drone besides the captain unlock? even a log? maybe they planned more for it

[quasi crystal]

It's been there since day one

[lavish jacinth]

it's possible more was planned, it is weird that it just kinda exists

[steady stone]

reminds me of some of the unused skyrim stuff
they put it in, it's functional, but that's kinda it. like random helmets that are really cool, but in 1 specific spot

[lavish jacinth]

the one torch that has raytraced shadows or whatever

[quasi crystal]

Creation engine games have tons of weird unused shit

[steady stone]

Hrodulf's Torch

but yeah, is there anything about it? drones dont have logs do they?

maybe in the stage log

[quasi crystal]

Nothing

[lavish jacinth]

they refuse to give us drone lore

[quasi crystal]

They were going to be the Eclipse 9 modifier where every drone is a tc 280

[lavish jacinth]

but I think it's possible hopoo planned more for it, they clearly had a lot of ideas that they never went through with

[quasi crystal]

But no rpds log is just a guy calling for help

[lavish jacinth]

did you ever look at the old language files?

[steady stone]

no?? why would i lol

[lavish jacinth]

idk if they're still there but there used to be a bunch of references to unused interactables, like a permanent shop upgrade that was probably meant for the bazaar

[steady stone]

mm, would be cool to have permanent upgrades, but i think part of what makes ror2 is that you dont have to grind other runs to win

[lavish jacinth]

there was also "teleporter seed" and "young teleporter" or something along those lines, which I really wish they hadn't scrapped because it sounds like there's some really neat lore there lol

[steady stone]

, but more like a lot of roguelikes have clear "upgrades" like better shop, maybe more damage, starting gear, essentially to ramp up your playtime until you win and dont really play again

it's what makes games like ror2 so replayable, simply a skill issue with unlocks in it

[quasi crystal]

Yeah I get it

Did void reavers spawn on pre anniversary commencement

[steady stone]

damn vague patchnotes

[lavish jacinth]

I wanna say that they did but I honestly don't remember

[steady stone]

when was the anniversary? we could use wayback and go to the old wiki or something

[peak jacinth]

presumably reavers did spawn on commencement as I don’t believe the ending cutscene has changed

[lavish jacinth]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Commencement?oldid=20208

[steady stone]

oh do they keep archives? sick

[lavish jacinth]

so it did have reavers, yeah

[quasi crystal]

The red bar on soup island is funny

[lavish jacinth]

the mysterious red stick

[quasi crystal]

Now it's the 2nd most hated pillar

[lavish jacinth]

rushing to the teleporter and not looting enough

Ideally you wanna fully loot every stage as efficiently as you can, try to always leave with more items than minutes as a rule of thumb

[quasi crystal]

As a new player you should go for 1 item a minute, I will say you can go into the other end of the spectrum and spend 20 minutes on a stage full looting and as a new player you likely aren't going to be able to play around that idk if what I'm saying is coherent basically tldr 1 minute per item and don't waste time especially when you don't know the map very well

[analog brook]

afaxmachine and coffeecoffee777 already said the biggest thing, but the 2nd biggest tip is to circle enemies, there's some exceptions but if you circle the enemies you'll dodge 90% of their attacks (this Is also how to complete that phase successfully and consistenly)

[quasi crystal]

Yeah a huge mistake new players make is just not moving, enemies aren't professional cs go players and suck at hitting moving targets

[lavish jacinth]

stormtrooper aim

[mellow crystal]

imagine how much harder this game would be if the enemies aimed predictively

fucking obligated to play triple dash merc or anything similar

[lavish jacinth]

ideally you stick to the outside of a group of enemies and circlestrafe them, but even just moving side to side and jumping helps

anything's better than standing still or running straight at them

[quasi crystal]

I hate the blind pest change where they miss you off screen when they spawn now, I swear I've strafed into their spit a couple times and it's like augh

[analog brook]

Thankful I haven't had that issue but yea it kinda sucks

Players that struggle with them still complain and players that didn't can now randomly get hit

Use sound queues people 💔

[quasi crystal]

I was gonna say just make their spawn noise louder lol sometimes it can get drowned out

[analog brook]

That's fair, I wish games had seperate sound sliders for enemies

When I played deep rock I really wanted to hear the several of sound queues in that game but whatever I did, the weapons are just so loud it hurts my ears

[lavish jacinth]

Doom invisibility be like

[analog brook]

I don't like how much that game started to rely on sound queues more and more and more over the time

[quasi crystal]

I love not being able to hear an exploder because I'm too busy being blasted by dance of dreadnoughts and listening to my crispr

[lavish jacinth]

But yeah, it's weird how quiet blind pests are considering how much damage they do

[quasi crystal]

And how cheap they are for how tanky they are

[analog brook]

honestly the AI change is probably like the 2nd worst nerf they could've done beside increasing the cost, I think reducing their hp would be more than enough

Something something glass canon smth smth

[quasi crystal]

Wisps are already that niche

[analog brook]

I wouldn't call them glass canons I'd call them just glass

[quasi crystal]

Increasing their cost would honestly be better, they slowdown the early game and I dislike that

[lavish jacinth]

I think the nerf was well-intentioned but they didn't think it through very well

[analog brook]

Making the AI intentional miss is a crazy idea, In my head at least

[quasi crystal]

Ror1 wisps had to sell their hp for flight

[analog brook]

Idk I don't think wisps strike that hard

I think of them more like... A bunch of tiny little angry flies that won't really do anything alone but 30 of them comes along and it becomes a little tricky

[mellow crystal]

they're wasps
one is gonna hurt but it won't do any real damage
twenty are gonna fucking swarm you

[dapper bison]

Blind pests have very little sound cues though. Mostly when they spawn and when they spit, but that second one is too quick to react reliably to

I personally find I’ve been hit less I think by their first shot, but dunno. I’m sure I’ve strafed into some

It’s hard to tell once too many enemies (especially pests) are around.

[thick hornet]

how do i get the 8 hour mithrix sex scene

[twin valley]

whats this underground area for anyway

[daring cloak]

You should go down there in a normal run

** wink wink**

Unless you already unlocked nkuhanas opinion

Because thats the sole purpose of that cave

[karmic surge]

Are Umbras affected by Evolution (as in, do they get Evolution items + Player's inventory?)

[twin valley]

oooh... i mustve done that so long ago i forgot lol. thought it was an unused area thanks

[fresh umbra]

Are you implying this is another way to unlock that item

Wait nvm that’s modded wetland aspect

[dire ledge]

me and my friend are trying to play together but when the host starts game the other doesnt get sent to the start screen, why does that happen?

[lavish jacinth]

what are your crossplay settings? you should both have it off, assuming you're both on steam

[dusty parcel]

took a break from the game ever since the dlc dropped but now that i'm playing again I notice that Mithrix's pizza attack still has its audio desynced and it throws me off super hard

anyone know if there's a mod or something similar that might fix the bug?

[lavish jacinth]

if there's a mod for it then #ror2-modding would know

[dusty parcel]

oh there is, beautiful

tysm!

[marble osprey]

Yep, PizzaSoundFix by Goorakh

[crude hemlock]

:/ glad I get to play rex again

[daring cloak]

The moment I saw the void jailor phase through the wall I knew it was over 😭

The lobby actually just crashed

[signal tundra]

Can void seeds spawn on the first stage?

[quasi crystal]

No

[crude hemlock]

Yeah fun times..
Is it reliant on whoever is hosting the game? As my mate made it to the end and I was "dead"

[weak crow]

if the host crashes or disconnects, the session expires and the run is over

if anyone else disconnects, i think they're able to rejoin with another invite (on steam) and the game stays up for everyone else

I've got some friends back into runs after they've crashed by sending another steam invite, but it sometimes doesn't work so idk

[crude hemlock]

FUuuu really

Yeah I must have dropped out

[analog brook]

Oh my god you reaction actually made me wheeze LMFAO

[crude hemlock]

I wasn't best pleased

And I was hoping to god it was just hanging

[weak crow]

yeah, discovered it when trying out a bunch of stuff to try and get my friend back into a good run after he crashed

i actually have no idea how it works but it does if they've been in the run before

[crude hemlock]

well I hope to never have to use it ,but will give it a shot

[jolly wedge]

curious ab something, how does chat feel about item quality vs it's rarity?

1️⃣ Item rarity should always determine how "good" it is (i.e Bison steak shouldn't exist, Old Guillotine should be made a white item, etc, Happiest Mask maybe a green item)

2️⃣ Disappointing items are fine in white and green, but a red should always be something good (i.e, happiest mask should recieve a major buff)

3️⃣ There should be disappointing items in each tier, rarity doesn't always mean quality (i.e Bison Steak and Happiest Mask SHOULD exist, the game stays as is)

[hollow siren]

I’d like a slight buff to the weakest items and a nerf to the strongest ones, but reds should always be kinda strong

(Like getting aegis is useless on most characters pre loop, and even post loop you’d rather be doing more damage)

[jolly wedge]

interesting and I pretty much agree 😉

[vale viper]

How would y’all go about doing the huntress challenges? The crowbar one seems purely based on luck and the take no damage one seems impossible, I already did the first challenge (for the 3-shot main attack)

[analog brook]

Item rarity imo determine a LOT more, but generally it think there should be scrap in every tier, in a perfect world said "scrap" items are still beneficial under certain circumstances

[jolly wedge]

true! that being said, ive only found like, 2 red printers in my 500+ hours playing, so red scrap is only really good for white soup on commencement (which isn't even guaranteed)
scrapping reds is not only discouraged but a LOT of reds are super disappointing to get LOL
I think reds (and red scrap potential) needs a big rework

[daring cloak]

Eh most reds are better than they're given credit for

[mellow crystal]

crowbar one, you just wanna loop or find a printer, or just use command

[jolly wedge]

aegis has a usecase but... bens raincoat...

[mellow crystal]

no damage one is kinda just a skill check, but becomes MUCH easier once you get the alt utility since it's basically a spammable dodgeroll

[daring cloak]

There are some reds that lean in a bit too much on being gimmicky like nkuhanas but the majority of them either strongly synergise with a certain build branch or cover other aspects of the game mostly on their own, allowing you to scrap other items that you dont need anymore

Like how icbm is a huge damage boost in builds that use at least one of the various rocket items or how deskplant removes the need for a good amount of healing items

And even some weaker ones like bottled chaos still incentivise you to experiment with them

[jolly wedge]

yeah that makes sense 😉
i dont know how much id prefer a deskplant over one or two slugs though
Best case scenario you killed a LOT of enemies and healing is all over, but you gotta be touching the ground to heal
Worst case scenario it's mithrix time and there's very few specific locations you gotta make your way to instead of just gaining passive heal

whereas with slug you gain fairly fast regen after not being hit for a few seconds (you can be anywhere you like)

that might just be slug being OP for a white item though

[daring cloak]

Yeah thats pretty much exactly why bad and mediocre reds are good

They make you to think about what they contribute to your run and how you can best make use of them

[jolly wedge]

I guess that's fair? 😉
Items like deskplant CAN be good but yeah you gotta really know how to make the best of them

[restive crow]

wait when mythrix steals your items if you have a few planulas and your character relies on procs do you just die

[daring cloak]

No

Phase 4 mithrix has a second hidden "healthbar" specifically for the items

[restive crow]

oh alr

[daring cloak]

The less health that healthbar has the more items will go back to you and that item healthbar cant heal

So even though mithrix himself would heal all the damage back up, he would still lose the planula eventually due to the damage to the second healthbar

[restive crow]

i have no way to skip his phase 4 cuz no fire band and my build has 2 empathy cores and 2 planulas this is gonna be pain

[mellow crystal]

when in doubt, camp on one of these until your items are back

[restive crow]

it was fine one of my drones died, i bought him back and then remembered i had the squid turret thing

[noble cloak]

hey guys any bandit tips

[mellow crystal]

honestly bandit is pretty simple imo so there ain't much i can say
tho i would like to note that invis makes every enemy attack where you were instead of where you are

including final bosses

[steady stone]

Close range as bandit is exceptionally safe because of his shift not only doing invisibility, but also a stun

He works decently well with most items, because his shotgun can excel with proc like sticky bomb, while either pistol skill can excel with crowbars or bands

[hoary sedge]

also bandit is 1 of the 2 characters that can semi-viably use lost seers

i wouldn't recommend doing that but you could do it

[ionic igloo]

when did this anti guillotine propaganda start

I think they should demote some greens and demote or buff some reds but otherwise the system seems fine as it is

(I voted 2)

[full apex]

Guillotine was white to begin with, but also much stronger. It got double nerfed, one or the other was probably fine

Rn the numbers are kinda low compared to other greens, but a few stacks for bosses is funny

[ionic igloo]

I always thought it was good, but I would probably keep it in green and raise the numbers if something had to be done

[marble osprey]

It basically just works as a 15% damage increase against elites specifically tho
Even compared to white damage increasing items, that's pretty lackluster
And compared to something like an atg, even if you were on honor it'd still take two guillotines to match the average damage of a single atg

[full apex]

i thought it was like 13 or 14

yea if 1 stack is 11.5% thats like 13% up, 2 is 20.6% so ~26% up

funnily enough the way its calc'd makes the description number work as the avg damage up number, even though the description is not worded as damage up lol

[marble osprey]

It's 13% less health which is about the same as 15% more damage

[full apex]

idk if that would work for anything into that formula or its coincidence

[full apex]

not exactly since its hyperbolic

so 2 stacks isnt 26% less health

which means 1 stack is only an 11.5% health decrease, not a full 13%

[marble osprey]

Right I forgot I was going off the item description

[full apex]

yeagh

[marble osprey]

So yeah it's about 13% more damage, which is even worse

Thinking about it as more damage also makes it scale linearly instead of hyperbolicly tho funnily enough

[full apex]

mhm. thats why it prooobably should have stayed 20%? they said they adjusted the % because elite HP changed, which is fair, but then i think it still just got nerfed in a few ways all at once so its hard to tell exactly what happened

yea, thats why its more convenient

thats basically how the hyperbolic function works, as one piece increases linearly, the other changes exponentially. when the top hits infinity the bottom hits 0, or vice versa

which is why tougher times cant hit 0% damage taken (100% blocked), because the number on top linearly increasing would need to be infinity

basically you can always convert the 2 between each other, linear damage increases could be converted to % effective health decrease, though thats harder to work with

[frosty steeple]

it's been kind of a while since i played this game, what kind of builds work best on chef?

also some of my qol mods are messing up the updated item descriptions so i don't really know what a lot of the reworked items do other than antlers and the teleporter one

[full apex]

i think the old go-to was betterui, but the dev kinda self destructed so now the go-to is lookingglass

not sure which you are using, or if its something else entirely

idk what ever happened to itemstatsmod lol

[frosty steeple]

what kind of builds/items should i use for chef

i don't really know how his kit works, other than that i have the better dice mod

[steady stone]

I can't speak too much for Glaze, but with Yes Chef, general proc is pretty good
seemed insane using boosted dice, since there's so many projectiles, that if you can get a point blank hit with it, it does colossal damage

can also be good, but there's one thing to remember with all chef builds: he has no armor. Since he's so frail, you have to play safe and agile

[full apex]

proc chain items in general are good, otherwise maybe staples, like generally good items such as movement speed stuff or getting different sources for damage ups to multiply each other

[lavish jacinth]

Chef also has an extremely easy death mark setup with glaze

[frosty steeple]

ok so proc chains, death marks, etc

essentially the kind of builds i would use on mando, huntress or arti

[lavish jacinth]

in general chef is pretty underpowered atm so don't expect too much from him

[frosty steeple]

i'm using the mod that takes dice off of the resource meter

[steady stone]

Personally I found useful in my experience. Since chef struggles with scaling, the really small swarm enemies can take multiple hits by like stage 3-4, including wisps, and it helps preserve your regenerating ammo

[lavish jacinth]

does it buff any of his other skills or just dice?

[frosty steeple]

i'll be honest

[frosty steeple]

just dice

[steady stone]

i.e. on stage 1 the wisps should die in 1 full dice hit, but not at later points

[lavish jacinth]

mkay

that makes him a bit better then, but his kit as a whole is just pretty weak

[steady stone]

yeah, sear I find myself using early game just for the passive

roll doesn't give you armor either, does it? not even boosted roll?

[lavish jacinth]

nope

charging it also doesn't increase its speed or distance, only damage

[frosty steeple]

ok so chef is not the character for me

i'm mainly just going through the roster to see which ones might be fun since i've genuinely never played at least one or two of them

i'm gonna give false son a try

similar build to other heavy hitters, i'm guessing?

bands, crowbars, syringes, movement, etc?

[ionic igloo]

works with heavy hitting builds because of his spammable 1500% slam but also works with proc items because his spammable 1500% slam has a 3.0 proc coefficient, and default laser also being strong

[lavish jacinth]

false son is broken as hell, he works with pretty much anything

[ionic igloo]

I think he's the best user of Luminous Shot too

[lavish jacinth]

he definitely is, by far

luminous feels like it was designed specifically for him lol

[frosty steeple]

big boy

[ionic igloo]

Not just because of the raw damage but because of how his playstyle works, you end up naturally using it and don't have to play around it

[lavish jacinth]

his passive also gives him extra stat bonuses based on how much bonus health he has (as in health from items, not from leveling up) so even bison steak is worth keeping

[frosty steeple]

doesn't he have one really big slam attack that also works with luminous shot?

[ionic igloo]

yeah

[frosty steeple]

that does like 50 bajillion damage in a single hit

[lavish jacinth]

1500% aoe with a 3.0 proc coeff if you use it on the ground

if you use it in the air it's 1.0, but the radius scales with height like headstompers

[ionic igloo]

it can also save your life if you accidentally fall from a high place

[frosty steeple]

i do remember playing a soldier tf2 mod that had the mantreads, they were meant to work like that but they didn't

i also remember headstompers being ridiculously strong

[lavish jacinth]

it is

[frosty steeple]

how do i get height with false son?

i remember seeing some kind of slam tech but i'm not sure how it works

[lavish jacinth]

there was a bug where you could get stuck in the falling slam state for as long as you wanted while on the ground, so you could essentially charge up a huge slam since the radius is based on airtime and not actual height.
I think that was patched though

I haven't heard of any tech that lets him get a ton of height, unless he can trimp with his dash. I still haven't played him enough to know for sure lol

[trim narwhal]

the grounded slam radius is bigger than what it might seem too, it can hit stuff outside of focus crystal range

[trim narwhal]

theres some edge cases, generally yeah i agree but eg certain builds wont be able to easily lumishot voidling when not laser spin, or some powermode saw secondary mult memes can see higher numbers as well i think

[mellow crystal]

boss-accurate abilities

[trim narwhal]

you get armor only when charging lmao, usually just ok for fall dmg, if youre burning but otherwise safe, maybe if youre caught in a vagrant nova

[trim narwhal]

this also depends on if you take glaze or yes chef

for instance, light flux is really miserable with glaze, your m2 endlag and glaze startup are awful. but its great with yes chef who can just use boosted cleavers 2x more often, and hardly wants to use m2 in the first place

[frosty steeple]

i already gave up with chef

thank you very much though

also i don't really use lunar items unless i'm just goofing around, they just make the game so much easier if i use them right

[trim narwhal]

did you try glaze or yes chef

[frosty steeple]

i don't have yes chef

this is the first time i have played ror2 in months

[trim narwhal]

i think yes chef is better, but it has specific bugs / tech so otherwise without them glaze probably just clears

well, tbh theyre close with yes chef techs and itll depend, also on multiplayer the weaken on glaze is probably just better as well for the team

[quasi crystal]

chef is ez

[noble cloak]

Hey guys can i get some good bandit tips in regards of survival?

I know smoke bomb spam but how much do invest in healing/evasion?

After the mandatory 5+ speed items

[quasi crystal]

bandit will benefit more from aoe than healing

[lavish jacinth]

having drones drawing aggro helps a lot, cloak is more effective if enemies have other targets to attack

[frosty steeple]

does false son have a pillar skip

[lavish jacinth]

you really don't need healing a whole lot, or even that much speed for that matter if you're good at using cloak to evade stuff

[quasi crystal]

he does but it takes a long time and isnt easy to do

you hgave to use a bug with slam on a slope

[sand canopy]

!!!!!havent played ror2 since before the 1st dlc came out. i loved ror2 but have heard a lot of negative stuff especially with this recent dlc essentially breaking the game. has the game been fixed or improving and is it still relatively the same game as before? i wanna get back into ror2 and wanted to maybe buy both dlcs but unsure about the state of the game. i played on ps4 and I'm gonna get the ps5 upgrade but heard the upgrade was broken too. if anyone could give a tldr i would appreciate it

[wide parrot]

all the major bugs have been fixed

[nocturne sierra]

Yeah, the items were bad at first, but they made them better, I play on ps5 and it still feels the same,

[noble cloak]

I love cloak

I really wish we got more ways to increase uptime

[quasi crystal]

There's plenty

Purity, hard light, lights out, alien head

[lavish jacinth]

bandolier

[crude hemlock]

nice, just done first mithrix monsoon on loop 3 lol. bonkers dps with mulit T

[trim narwhal]

is sear glaze non-host still bugged in mp or nah

[daring cloak]

Not sure but I would bet that its still bugged

[frosty steeple]

is it worth using a shatterspleen to print a knurl if i'm playing false son? i don't have a lot of growth right now

[lavish jacinth]

nah

growth on false son is great, but not good enough to trade a shatterspleen for a knurl

[frosty steeple]

i just killed the awu but the red item isn't by the spawn location

is it on a timer or did it just get stuck somewhere

because i went through hell to kill that damn thing

[trim narwhal]

also is the burn dot bug still a thing or

[lavish jacinth]

there's no timer, but sometimes it can clip through the floor

it might still be grabbable though

[frosty steeple]

god damn it

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[frosty steeple]

i found it

electric boomerang

not great, but could be worse

[lavish jacinth]

boomerang is pretty good

[trim narwhal]

cant find a mod for burn dot either gg

ok well guess ill just ask in general, any changes or bugfixes that werent listed in the patch notes, or is what it says what we got

[strong smelt]

Is it normal to randomly combust as engi for no reason? im using the fuel array ( while not going below 50% ) and I randomly get hit by some orbital strike from the heavens

3 runs in a row ive died to this

[lavish jacinth]

your turrets explode too

they inherit the effects of passive equipment

[strong smelt]

so when they get 50% I also die?

thats dumb

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, it'll make the turret explode

but if you're close enough to it, it can damage you

[strong smelt]

thats the thing, my 3rd run just now, I was nowhere near them and I get killed

[lavish jacinth]

what killed you on the end screen?

[strong smelt]

just said me cuz I died to my own fuel array when i got bombed

got me from 400 to 23

then boom

[lavish jacinth]

in that case it's kinda impossible to say, besides an enemy hitting you

I can promise that there is not a hidden game mechanic where engie randomly has a heart attack and dies

[strong smelt]

I was fighting a Halc shrine but the boss dude was on my turret which was on the other side of a hill

[strong smelt]

I guess my engi had 3 strokes then

[lavish jacinth]

ig try to get a recording next time if happens

[trim narwhal]

mechanic where standing still too long with bungus builds make engi get increased chance of heart attack from no exercise

[lavish jacinth]

halcyonite does have some incredibly janky hitboxes, but if you weren't close to it then it prooobably wasn't that

[strong smelt]

whats funnier is how I had a bubble on my turret so there shouldve been NO way I coulda got hurt anyways

[lavish jacinth]

you would be amazed how bad the bubble is at protecting you lol

[strong smelt]

[trim narwhal]

well if ur outside bubble and enemy is inside, they can shoot through at u

i think (?) been a while since i used bubble

[strong smelt]

true

but I wanst near it anyways

wasnt*

I guess my engi had to many slugs and decided it was time to keel over and die

[trim narwhal]

i think bubble is quite nice when it works well, the problem is that under hard situations, its hard for it to work well

[lavish jacinth]

it works great until it doesn't
and when it doesn't, you're probably screwed

[trim narwhal]

swarms of elders running over, long downtime, doesnt help when u have to constantly run, etc

missiles can help do some damage from afar in those situations after youve managed to escape or kill some priority greater wisps or whatever earlier etc

[fervent root]

Anyone have any tips for monsoon?

[lavish jacinth]

I'll take the missiles any day, infinitely better to just keep moving instead of being trapped in a bubble and praying that it keeps you safe

[trim narwhal]

try and get all the items

[strong smelt]

anything dps and status effect wise, take it

[lavish jacinth]

1. full clear stages, try to get at least one item per minute
2. never stop moving

[trim narwhal]

also dont overload on mountains if ur weak unless u want to have some fun

[lavish jacinth]

eh, depends on stage

[trim narwhal]

i had a 2 hour chef run yesterday. no looping

[lavish jacinth]

if it's stage 1 then you've got nothing to lose besides a few minutes, go big or go home

[trim narwhal]

it was really fun but i dont recommend for winning

[fervent root]

about how important is the difficalty timer

[lavish jacinth]

but if it's stage 5 and you're already struggling then maybe not

[lavish jacinth]

it's important, but don't stress over it

[strong smelt]

bruh, the pain I went through using Merc on stage 50 on my 5 hour run was hell

[trim narwhal]

lol i went triple mountain stage 1 and then fought like 6 beetle queens for months

[strong smelt]

dashed across the map with every skill

[trim narwhal]

and then later when the run was pretty weak i triple mountained on stage 5 again and fought two overloading worms for 20 minutes

[lavish jacinth]

the timer accelerates between stages so you really wanna make the most of every stage and full clear, as opposed to rushing straight to the teleporter

[strong smelt]

I also see why looping with merc is horrid

[lavish jacinth]

like I said, full clearing with an item per minute is a good rule of thumb. and it can be worth it to spend some extra time messing with scrappers and printers

[trim narwhal]

looping with merc is fine just dont get 100 goat hooves

[strong smelt]

I shouldve just gotten rid of all my movement really

[fervent root]

oh im using command

[trim narwhal]

noone wants 100 hooves

ok more of a reason to full loot

[strong smelt]

13 was bad enough

[lavish jacinth]

that's what is for

[trim narwhal]

now that u can ensure all ur items are good

[strong smelt]

im broke as hell

[trim narwhal]

just try and get a variety usually

[strong smelt]

got 15 in my name rn

[trim narwhal]

items scale off each other

[fervent root]

exaclty im not leaving anything to chance

[trim narwhal]

dont just get 10 atgs with nothing else and wonder why ur doing mid dmg

[strong smelt]

I love shrimp

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, don't just stack the "best" items

[strong smelt]

shrimp and collapse are insane

[lavish jacinth]

I usually recommend people don't play command if they actually want to get better at the game. Not having it forces you to learn how items work and how to utilize them

[strong smelt]

suppresive fire is the best skill in game

[trim narwhal]

i think command is okay if u have a specific build u want to test instantly on the "best case" but generally it doesnt teach u much

[lavish jacinth]

ror2's items are mostly designed with randomness in mind, that's why mixing a bunch of random stuff together is more optimal than only stacking the """best""" items

[trim narwhal]

a lot of rhe time i see people with command go the Same Build every time and its like ?? ok

[lavish jacinth]

I'm not gonna tell people how to have fun but yeah, I never understood that either lol

[trim narwhal]

well mostly i think for that kind of specific gameplay, other games / genres etc would offer more than ror2 imo

[lavish jacinth]

I've met people who have like 50+ hours in the game, only play command, and say that they've never even touched like half the items in the game.
Like... you do you I guess, but why

[vale quartz]

is warped echo even good it seems like it just gets rid of ur one shot protection

[trim narwhal]

pretty sure warped osp echo doesnt kill either

[lavish jacinth]

worrying about osp in 2025
but nah it's fine, it's basically just a different flavor of opal

the delayed damage gives you a chance to heal from it as it's happening

[trim narwhal]

can you use armor or eg evis sojourn etc to dodge the bleed, i havent tested this

[lavish jacinth]

the tick damage ignores all damage resistance, but it also doesn't count against the timer for shields or slug reactivating. I don't think it prevents medkit either

well technically, damage resistance IS accounted for, but only once. Echo basically takes the final amount of damage you would've taken and then splits it up

it's also always nonlethal except the last tick

[trim narwhal]

so i assume actual iframes are fine, or

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, you can block the tick damage with iframes

[outer sleet]

me and my friend are stuck in Balwarks Ambry and no enemies are spawning to drop the Artifact key. Weve been waiting 10 minutes and nothing has spawned

[lavish jacinth]

just to rule out the obvious, you did actually start the trial with the first key, right?
Bulwarks has slow spawns sometimes (especially if you're really unlucky and get overloading worms during kin) but it shouldn't take THAT long

[low pivot]

Does anyone know if the sv_maxplayers command works in sots?

[strong smelt]

Does power elixir work on the turrets or nah?

Ik it use items and stats and such but ive never actually looked into engi

Whats the limit to what it can “use”

[lavish jacinth]

yep, turrets get consumable items refreshed when you build them, as long as you have a copy in your own inventory

[strong smelt]

So dio would also work? Like technically 4 turrets?

[lavish jacinth]

they can use pretty much anything, the only restrictions are passive minion spawns like beetle guard, and items that wouldn't work correctly anyway like rusted key

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[strong smelt]

W

Thanks for the lesson, you’re the best

[lavish jacinth]

lol np

[foggy vessel]

imagine if you could plop a turret onto a lockbox

(to open lockbox for free)

[steady stone]

realistically for key to work in the sense that the turrets spawned boxes, it would have to be made that they transfer over to the next stage instead of getting replaced
i.e. the devotion shipment request

although this makes me curious, if i buy a drone with microbots, and then lose the microbots, do they keep the microbots, since they transfer to the next stage? until repurchase, i would assume at least.

[lavish jacinth]

they'll always have them regardless of whether you have microbots or not

captain's passive gives it to them automatically, it's not tied to the item

[steady stone]

hm, interesting

[foggy vessel]

ok but what if you gain microbots via other means

well the only other way w out mods is like
metamorphisis

[lavish jacinth]

drones wouldn't get them unless you were captain

[foggy vessel]

what the heck man

[lavish jacinth]

although I'm not sure what would happen if you were to play captain, buy some drones, and then change into a different character with metamorphosis. I know you keep your own microbot but idk about drones

microbots themselves aren't really special as an item, sharing them with drones is entirely a captain thing

there's also no real reason they couldn't have been in the regular loot pool

Everything about Captain is an anomaly lol

like this

[trim narwhal]

?

[lavish jacinth]

taser's sound effect scales with attack speed

[trim narwhal]

oh ok

[mellow crystal]

random fun fact but this also applies to certain enemy attacks like the stone golem laser

[meager bolt]

Who is the fastest character

[mellow crystal]

everyone has the same movement speed
but loader has the best mobility

merc also probably has the best mid-combat mobility

[lavish jacinth]

erm aktually, heretic has the highest base move speed with 8m/s

[meager bolt]

Thank you

[mellow crystal]

i always forget heretic exists tbh

[vale quartz]

Is it true that the community has a lot of femboys

[mellow crystal]

i think you're looking for the ultrakill community

[steady stone]

i was so tempted to say that but thought i should leave it alone LMFAO

[marble osprey]

Also worth noting that artificer and Mul-t have less acceleration so they can feel slower, despite having the same max speed

Possibly others but I think it's just those two

[mellow crystal]

rex too naturally since it's also big robot

[quasi crystal]

Rex and acrid feel slower

[steady stone]

it's probably their animation, because rex doesnt really "walk" and acrid looks like he's bounding like a dog, which we know as faster than us

Does noxious thorn affect Ruin?

[dapper bison]

I believe for Rex and Acrid it’s actually just an illusion the camera might create, since they’re bigger it’s zoomed out a bit more. I think so at least. It applies to Mul-T especially as well on top of the weird acceleration

[quasi crystal]

Oh I know they're the same base speed they just feel slower due to being BIG chonky fellas

[cinder pasture]

captain is a perfect amalgamation of something we just dont know the something

[fresh umbra]

since they’re bigger it’s zoomed out a bit more
This is why i used to think frost relic slowed me down when it was active (which in hindsight doesn’t make much sense)

[frosty steeple]

is plimp worth picking up for false son?

i think it'd help the laser a lot but since he's a heavy hitter, atg might be better

esp with the 3.0 proc coeff slam

i don't have an atg yet though

[full zephyr]

will ror2 ever have more dlcs or is gearbox's focus more on rorr atp

[marble osprey]

Both are pretty good, I wouldn't avoid a plimp just to hope for an atg

[marble osprey]

Probably will but they're only like halfway done fixing the one they just made so probably not for a while

[full zephyr]

gotcha

[wide parrot]

No one is focusing on rorr at all

The game is in development limbo

[peak jacinth]

actually yes

[viscid pivot]

Guys, I have ror2 on steam and it does not start, the game is stuck at 51% every time i try to play

I tried to restart steam and my PC but i dont know what else to do

I have a pretty bad wifi but it should start even offline right?

[steady stone]

Steam library > right click on ror2 > properties > installed files > verify integrity of game files
this is basically the first thing to always try

If you have mods, I would pretty confidently say that could be a problem too, one of them being outdated

[viscid pivot]

Thank you

[knotty kestrel]

Hey people, i am a new player. How do I get better at the game? For now I'm just trying to collect items that give lots of health and attack speed, always get smashed by final boss

[lavish jacinth]

try to loot stages as much as you can, and don't rush to the teleporter.
Also, diversify your items- items tend to build on each other, especially damage items. Focusing just on health on attack speed is probably hurting your runs way more than its helping

attack speed in particular tends to fall off pretty hard compared to other sources of dps due to rounding jank. The most reliable dps sources tend to be proc items and multipliers, like etc.

[quasi crystal]

Health is probably the worst category for damage reduction

will get you far

[lavish jacinth]

it doesn't not help but lategame enemies tend to hit like a truck no matter what

[quasi crystal]

And with the dlc warped echo and unstable transmitter will get you even further

[lavish jacinth]

but yeah, etc. will go a long way, since most of them effectively multiply health

just one stack of can be as much as a 30% effective health boost while sprinting, having that damage reduction at the press of a button can save your life

movement speed is also hugely important

[quasi crystal]

I would never suggest tougher over spaces

[lavish jacinth]

except on rex

as a loose rule of thumb I'd say the priority is Damage > speed > healing/defense.
You don't need to heal or tank damage if you can dodge it, and you don't need to dodge if enemies die before they're a threat.

Of course, it takes a while before you've got enough dps to instakill everything before it can kill you, so you want a bit of everything

[quasi crystal]

But without the dlc you take tougher obviously

[peak holly]

I don’t take ss on mult

[peak jacinth]

that’s a weird choice

[quasi crystal]

I dodge with power mode because I'm awesome

[peak holly]

He’s got a gargantuan hitbox

[quasi crystal]

Not as big acrid rex or heretic

[peak holly]

Acrid has some inbuilt healing n heretic is broken

[peak jacinth]

and rex hates ss

[quasi crystal]

Mul t has 50% damage reduction

[peak holly]

Also melee attacks usually come out slower and more dangerous than ranged ones, making ss great on acrid

But mult gets peppered by projectiles

[peak jacinth]

not really

[peak holly]

Unless no power mode

[peak jacinth]

really hard to hit with saw movement

[fresh umbra]

If you do a heretic run starting as false son, at what point do you lose the slam attack (primary + secondary)?

[peak holly]

When you transform either I’m guessing

[quasi crystal]

I really disagree with Mul t but it's w.e

[peak holly]

I’ll take ss in the future

[lavish jacinth]

there's an argument to be made for tt on engie since turrets can't really dodge, but ss is better for keeping engie himself alive

[quasi crystal]

That is a valid one, engineer is just quirky, though if I have transmitter etc I want it to take damage

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it depends on other factors with him

[round mauve]

im trying to fight the seekers of the storm dlc boss, ive already killed him once and now the portal to get to him isnt showing up at all?

[lavish jacinth]

you can only kill him once per run

but if you're on a different run, the portals are never guaranteed. Halcyon shrines are decently common on stage 1 but become a lot rarer afterwards, although if you're on the first 3 stages of a loop then you can get there through gilded coast or a lunar seer

[round mauve]

which map is gilded coast again

[lavish jacinth]

the place you get to by using a gold shrine

[round mauve]

ohhh

ive gotten therer many times and the green portal still wont show up?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, it depends on when you go there. It has to be within the first 3 stages of a loop, you won't get it on stage 4 or 5

the path of the colossus stages essentially run parallel to the normal stage order, and since they correspond to stages 2, 3 and 4, you can only reach them from stages 1, 2 and 3

[round mauve]

ohh alr, thanks

[meager bolt]

what are lunar coins for

[lavish jacinth]

buying lunar stuff

opening lunar pods, praying to newt altars to get a portal to the bazaar, and buying stuff in the bazaar

[meager bolt]

ok

thank you

[lavish jacinth]

np

[south scaffold]

After losing two absolutely insane Artificer Monsoon runs to this dude, I finally gotta ask.
How on earth do you deal with Phase 4 Mithrix???

[lavish jacinth]

hide behind a pillar and poke him to death

[wide parrot]

Use Ion Surge

[lavish jacinth]

he returns items based on total damage dealt, so it doesn't matter if he heals

[wide parrot]

It absolutely trivializes Mithrix, and is a free pillar skip

[south scaffold]

I was doing it, but I guess I just gotta play it more safe…

[south scaffold]

Ironically enough, me using Ion Surge was what got me killed.

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, just stay behind cover until he attacks, then hit him while his attack is on cooldown

a trick I also use is to try to stay close to him during the item steal animation and then run away at the end. That way your minions (if you have any) will lag behind and aggro to him as soon as he's vulnerable instead of following you, which gets you some safety and free damage

also if you have , repair any dead drones to spawn turrets

[south scaffold]

Noted!

[lavish jacinth]

the polyp strat works wonders https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901542787055636/1063005517879975947/polypstrats2.mp4

[wide parrot]

okay that’s just a skill issue at that point

[foggy vessel]

circle strafe

just run in a circle
do the occasional jump if you need to cuz of spinny orbs

[lavish jacinth]

....or just stay behind cover

there's no reason to get close to him unless you're really impatient or have zero ranged options