ror2-game-questions

[haughty tapir]

also garunteed halycon geode

[lavish jacinth]

interact with the prong things around the teleporter before activating it

[full apex]

.

[sharp totem]

thx 🙂

[quasi crystal]

Really? acrid was a pain for me because his hitbox is a barn door

[haughty tapir]

im ngl, im hate trying to hunt void devastotors (gosh i hated trying to get the log for void zoea)

whats the best way to get the void devastator log.
-# im ngl, is there a way i can just spawn the log in, yes im that lazy, those things spawn on like 1 stage, or during very rare circumstances.

[quasi crystal]

The easiest way to get it is to stack clovers

[wide parrot]

the best way to find them is the void

[quasi crystal]

Like if you wanna get it legit the only way is to grind in locus but if you wanna get it without cheating but as easily as possible command a bunch of clovers with Regen scrap and make a farming build for locus

[lavish jacinth]

Dunno, for me it was basically free lol. he's got good mobility and poison can make up for having bad damage

[quasi crystal]

Id be lasered behind pillars lol

Maybe I'll try again

Huntress arti loader so far for loop less monsoon

[lavish jacinth]

You don't even need to do the regen scrap thing anymore, devotion lems with shipping requests will give you more reds than you could ever want

[oak shoal]

Haven't rlly been keeping up, but have they said anything about when we can expect each roadmap update? Like any specific dates?

[lavish jacinth]

Idk if they'll steal the logbook though so you might wanna get them killed once you've got enough clovers lol

[lavish jacinth]

Nope, nothing yet

[quasi crystal]

Do they not count if they pick it up

[lavish jacinth]

If there is it should be in #announcements

[lavish jacinth]

I actually don't know

[quasi crystal]

When they pick up nuggets or bandoliers they count iirc

[haughty tapir]

ight

i was aware of that

[quasi crystal]

Nice

[lavish jacinth]

Bandoliers don't count (technically they do but for the lem that picked it up, not you) I think gold nuggets do because gold is shared anyway. For monster logs I'm not sure tho

[haughty tapir]

but the other day i was just messing around aeorolt with random builds, and i decided to see if i could just have just 300 clovers and just spawn a bunch of lemurians to see if i could just have a million logs on the ground

none are dropping logs

is my game broken or somethin

[lavish jacinth]

Do you have the lemurian log?

[haughty tapir]

yes

[lavish jacinth]

Well there's your problem

[haughty tapir]

oh no dupe logs

[lavish jacinth]

They won't drop the log if you already have it, yeah

[haughty tapir]

did not know that

[lavish jacinth]

It'll drop in multiplayer if someone in the lobby is missing the log tho

[haughty tapir]

gimme a second let me test something, im gonna test it with void devastators

[quasi crystal]

In coop I think that's not the case because I've seen a billion wisp logs with my friends

[haughty tapir]

oh wait

i already have void devastor log

LMFAO

im missing something else

-# im ngl im just not caringg for the legitimatily getting entries its literally just grinding

also thanks for the help

it turns out im missing voidling lol

not void devastator.

[wide parrot]

that will be a lil harder

stack clovers

[haughty tapir]

yeah.

that i will probably do legit

im planning on doing a super long run with friends, and we are gonna do all bosses

so shoudl be able to get clovers easily

[torpid charm]

how am i supposed to beat the bulwark ambry stage if no portal spawns after collecting the artifact? ive been looking all over the stage and i dont know what to do

[copper sable]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-asyjdauu-gif-16491934308297234021

[torpid charm]

what is this common or something

[peak holly]

Bulwark ambry in general is a bit of a soft lock haven

[steady stone]

Same with a moment whole, i've heard

[torpid charm]

whats the point of them if they dont really work rn
thats just annoying honestly

ill just
avoid it? is there any important unlock there or?

[steady stone]

The ambry has the artifacts and a code iirc, moment whole has...

[copper sable]

[steady stone]

no unlocks, i think?

none i see on the wiki at least

[hoary sedge]

the only 'unlock' is the code on the face of the twisted scav

otherwise it's literally just the extra lunar coins

[torpid charm]

:(

code?

like what you punch into that console in the artifact portal

[steady stone]

yeah there's this, but that's about it besides lunar coins

[torpid charm]

to tell the truth i never would have figured this out on my own
i found one code and used it to try one of the artifact trials, i think it was the one that lets any enemy spawn
that was the one that soft locked me

[torpid charm]

thank you, writing this down

[steady stone]

The wiki has every code, along with the pins here I think?

[quasi crystal]

There's a list of locations somewhere if you want to find them all

[steady stone]

Yeah, there's also hints iirc

[torpid charm]

arent two of them on social media sites only or did i read that part wrong

[quasi crystal]

Devotion and delusion

[steady stone]

One was YouTube, but one is in the game currently

[torpid charm]

ill prolly put off messing with the artifacts until the
exit portal thing is fixed

[steady stone]

It originally was left out and was posted on Twitter before they put it in

They just forgot

[quasi crystal]

Which one was added in game

[rapid current]

is there an chance like 20 %

[lavish jacinth]

They're both in the game now

[lavish jacinth]

Cleansing pools are pretty rare and only appear on certain stages, but the best place to find them is aphelian sanctuary since it has the highest chance by far

Also, they'll never appear if you have Command enabled

[quasi crystal]

Aphelion is the only stage that can spawn cleansing pools but not lunar pods too lol (unintentionally though iirc)

[lavish jacinth]

It's intentional afaik, but there's a bug where the director would still use up credits attempting to spawn them

Idk if it was fixed tho

[quasi crystal]

Then it's unintentional enough

[flint galleon]

hello, for some reason i can't get the unlock for n'kahana's opinion. i went down into like the little nook in wetland aspect but for some reason i didnt get the achievement, am i doing it wrong?

[lavish jacinth]

That achievement has been bugged for a while, there's supposed to be a thing in there that you interact with but sometimes it gets destroyed if you have a big AoE like gasoline.
Usually when that happens you still get the achievement but sometimes it just doesn't work

[flint galleon]

yeah i didnt find any interactable

[lavish jacinth]

If you didn't get the achievement already you can use this to force it https://thunderstore.io/package/prodzpod/RealerCheatUnlocks/

[glacial knoll]

It's a skeleton "enemy" not a chest but yeah

doesn't spawn if you have the unlock, not necessarily the achievement

but the game should automatically sync achievements and unlocks

do just cheat it tho to make sure

[flint galleon]

i did get the skeleton

didnt get the prompt to interact with it though

[glacial knoll]

it's a enemy you have to kill it

[flint galleon]

ohhhh

thats weird

[flint galleon]

thanks!

[glacial knoll]

like if it spawned it'll spawn again

[lavish jacinth]

Oh, if it was still there then you might not need the mod, just go back and destroy it

[quasi crystal]

How many unlockable items were in the very first public version of ror 2?

I know nukahanas and preon were unlockable

[flint galleon]

well, guess its time to loop again

man... bulwark's ambry portal didnt spawn so i have to end this run..

is this like a common bug?

[quasi crystal]

Yes

[flint galleon]

man..

[lavish jacinth]

Ambry is softlock city atm

[flint galleon]

i didnt even end up getting the artifact

this is ass

[lavish jacinth]

Best to just avoid it until the patch

[flint galleon]

k

[long mesa]

if i have transcendence do blood altars insta kill me

[daring cloak]

No

Shield counts as an extension of your health

[long mesa]

epic

[daring cloak]

Meaning that any interactable that costs hp will account for shield

[daring cloak]

Ok can anyone here explain this absolute tomfoolery?

Why were there 2 plains in the seer

[glacial knoll]

golemplains and golemplains2

[daring cloak]

Since when did different variants allow for the same seer

[glacial knoll]

idk always?

no reference of filltering for 2 and they were always seperate stages

[daring cloak]

Never seen something suggested in the seer twice except for the "invasive" ones like locus and coast

[full apex]

i never saw it before sots

and the weights were messed up in sots as well as seers got some new stuff added

so i wouldnt be surprised if it is new

[glacial knoll]

one's code one's part of the stage hardly could've happened on accident

Tho the code needed to be edited for loop variants so maybe they just removed filtering for "2"

[full apex]

that would make sense i think

[sick blaze]

am i allowed to ask for help in lfg channel to unlock certain challenges?

[daring cloak]

Of course

[sick blaze]

also any tips for unlocking huntress ballista without having any artifacts unlocked?

i assume the best bet is to hide in a corner and pray while three people backpack me to that challenge

[lavish jacinth]

helps, the requirement is specifically to not fall under 100% hp and barrier lets you go over 100%, so you can take a hit as long as you have barrier up. Having drones to draw aggro also helps

it also doesn't need to be specifically stage 3, just those maps. So if you want you can just loop until you're overpowered enough to do it without even trying

[sick blaze]

those maps only show up on the 3rd stage tho right

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[glacial knoll]

man they still haven't added sulfur pools for that achievement

[lavish jacinth]

stacking works too if you've got coins to spare

[sick blaze]

if i use the save mod as i enter stage three could i be a little rat and just reset until i get it

not sure how mods influence the game if they prevent you from completing challenges or anything

[lavish jacinth]

they don't prevent challenges, no

[livid wedge]

I mean, if you're gonna use mods, you can just unlock it with a mod

[sick blaze]

meh thats a line too far for me personally

[trim lynx]

could always use debug toolkit to set scene and decrease stage counter

[sick blaze]

although i have been told ballista for huntress is like when cavemen discovered fire

[trim lynx]

or just use lunar seers

[glacial knoll]

save mod would not reroll stages

Lunar Seers would be the intended way or just disable dlcs

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, turning off dlcs guarantees you'll get one of the right maps

[sick blaze]

i just bought the game so i have neither dlc

[lavish jacinth]

oh, in that case you won't have to worry about getting the right maps

[sick blaze]

i heard some bad things about seekers of the spirit but i also hear a lot of stupid shit on the internet so idk but i just wanna unlock all of huntress' kit asap

[lavish jacinth]

sots is in uh, quite a state right now, yes

[daring cloak]

Ye seekers of the storm is quite a mess currently

[lavish jacinth]

if you get either of the dlcs, get survivors of the void first

[daring cloak]

Gearbox is working hard to clean the dlc up within the coming months

[sick blaze]

my friends backpacked me to my first run win last night and im fucking hooked

[trim lynx]

50% stupid shit 50% justified

[sick blaze]

i will smack mithrix again with the right loadout

[livid wedge]

Is it just me or do bandolier packs seem to fall right through the map at an astonishing rate?

[flint prawn]

might be your game

On mine it seemed okay today

[sleek token]

Man, i have a question

If i'm doing voidfields stage 1. And i have to fight lemurians and they have shurikens. What am i supposed to do? They just don't miss

[lavish jacinth]

leave

[sleek token]

Literal death?

[lavish jacinth]

no, you just leave

the exit portal is always there

[sleek token]

Oka

[livid wedge]

No, you can leave vields early

[glacial knoll]

You can dodge Shurikens but Lemurians are unfortunately accurate with those

is Shuriken the worst item for them to get now

[lavish jacinth]

probably, yeah

doesn't help that it has a small amount of homing

[glacial knoll]

Nkuhanas should be too, that's still not blacklisted but no one ever talks about it

I guess 60s isn't long enough for it to cause issues

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, that's an instant leave if they have medkits

[glacial knoll]

You could outskill Medkit you can't outskill Mending Elites really but more of a run ender on evolution

[sleek token]

I've fought enemies with shurikens before but lemurians just traumatized me lol

[lavish jacinth]

it's not as bad as tesla coil at least

[sleek token]

I manaed to survive that once
I was on VF

[livid wedge]

Thank goodness tesla finally got blacklisted

[sleek token]

Really?
Thank god

I fought that, 2 times in my 185 hours, but that one time where i dies it was hell

[sick blaze]

is there any downside to not just running into the void fields after the first stage provided you have the lunar coins to go to the bazaar in the first place?

[daring cloak]

Not really aside from the risk of dying there

[sick blaze]

feels like if you get unlucky you just peace out anyway and take the free items

[flint prawn]

The fog can kill if you have no healing or movement, that is all

[lavish jacinth]

and you can only go there once, so if you really want the extra loot but are forced to leave early then it's sort of a waste, I guess

but yeah apart from that it's pretty much free

[sick blaze]

so newt altar to put a coin in and then jump to the bottom right

[steady stone]

facing the shop and away from the portal, it's to the left

[lavish jacinth]

basically just go backwards from where you spawn

fall damage can't kill you outside of eclipse 3+ so feel free to break your legs

[steady stone]

it can ruin watches and such though

[lavish jacinth]

(or artifact of frailty but nobody uses that)

[sick blaze]

i will still blink to play it safe hehe

[flint prawn]

good luck!

[haughty tapir]

honestly why does it exist, WHO WOULD want to use it, just annoying.

i mean besides an all artifacts run

or making headset and loader more op.

[lavish jacinth]

Idk, hopoo ran out of ideas

[digital thicket]

can noxious thorn proc expose?

[hoary sedge]

i mean it only applies debuffs so I can't imagine it would

although it IS a sots item so it could well be broken in some horrific way that makes it happen, never heard of that though

[lavish jacinth]

technically expose is stackable, it's possible to stack it with behemoth

dunno if noxious thorn can add stacks of it though, I haven't tested it since the last patch

[hoary sedge]

oh wait that makes more sense as a question lol, I thought they meant activating it for the damage

[flint prawn]

thorn should be bugged to only inflict bleed but I haven't tested it myself so take this with a grain of salt

[lavish jacinth]

supposedly that was patched

[flint prawn]

huh. might test it tomottow if I get the chance

[quasi crystal]

Since expose stacks are invisible how would you test

[vale cove]

i have few items that say "all allies", does the character you're playing as count as an ally as well?

[livid wedge]

Yes

[marble osprey]

You should just be able to hit them and if it doesn't disappear there was more than one stack, as I understand it

[gusty anvil]

how bad would corpsebloom be on rex

[onyx marlin]

anyone know if shaped glass is stronger than a laser scope

[gusty anvil]

it def is if you dont have 100% crit

[onyx marlin]

mb i meant for railgunner

[gusty anvil]

but if you do, 1 scope is the same strength as 1 glass, but shaped glass stacks a LOT better i dont exactly remember why but its how they calculate damage im pretty sure

[full apex]

base/crit normally is 1x/2x
with scope its 1x/3x
with glass its 2x/4x

[serene vector]

its ok but instantaneous healing is more beneficial imo

corposebloom makes all healing a healing over time (correct me if im wrong)

[full apex]

REX tends to have enough to outpace it and the burst healing from like alt util is really nice

bloom heals back 10%/s, and doubles stored, so if you are able to heal more than 5%/s of your max hp then youd be outpacing bloom

also bloom can only hold 100% of your max hp in reserve which is 10s of output. so technically even if you are outpacing it, if your healing is inconsistent bloom can be a positive, it would normalize your healing over time in exchange for no burst healing. its mostly wasteful when you are hitting the cap easily because any extra healing is wasted after that

[wicked cliff]

if i unlock stuffs in ror2 modded does it stay when i go to vanilla ?

cause it worked the other way around when i got my stuff from vanilla to modded version

[full apex]

yes they are the same save

it cant tell the difference if its the same profile in game

[dense cove]

How critical would y'all say it is to unlock Bandits serrated shiv thingy?

I'm debating trying to unlock that vs. trying to climb eclipse

[steady stone]

The throwing knife isn't too strong
The upside: You can stack bleed at a range
The downside: The damage without bleed is miserable

[quasi crystal]

If you want to get it pretty easily get 1 lost seers lens and start shiving the newt, I managed to kill him before he could kick me out

[long mesa]

in ror2 multiplayer with lss are levels shared equally among all players?

[lavish jacinth]

Imho it's practically a straight upgrade over the default knife, the difference in damage barely matters and stacking hemorrhage without needing to be 2 inches from an enemy is just convenient

however bandits m2 generally isn't all that important to his kit, if you decided to skip it you wouldn't be missing out on much

It's not that hard to unlock at least, just stack some backup mags and stab alloy worship unit a bunch, and bring lights out so you can refill charges

The only hard part with that unlock is finding an enemy that can survive 20 stacks of hemorrhage, hence AWU

[quasi crystal]

I only ever use m2 to cancel fall damage

Bandit just really doesn't play to stacking powerful dots well because burst and desperado are such nukes

[lavish jacinth]

It's a little bit of passive damage and an extra debuff for death mark, thats about it

And a fall damage cancel lol

[quasi crystal]

Maybe hemorrhage has its place on blast + lights out builds since those are severely lower in DPS

[lavish jacinth]

I think that's what it's intended for

[quasi crystal]

Yeah they suggest using lights out with m2 I remember that

[lavish jacinth]

Well, lights out specifically, the primary doesn't change it too much

[quasi crystal]

Mentioning Blast was just a chance to shit on it

[lavish jacinth]

It isn't even bad lol

[quasi crystal]

Very few skills are bad in this game, blast isn't bad but I'm never using it

[lavish jacinth]

...blast is the rifle right?
I've played this game for years and cannot remember what his primaries are actually called lmao

[quasi crystal]

Blast is the rifle but I actually think its supposed to be a slug shotgun lol at least in ror it is

[lavish jacinth]

Probably, but calling them shotgun and rifle is just easier

[quasi crystal]

I just wish blast didn't have horrible recoil or bloom or whatever it's not like it's balls to the wall broken without it

[lavish jacinth]

It does actually have better proc damage than the shotgun, plus infinite range and no falloff

It's more of a playstyle difference

Just tap fire a couple shots at a time instead of spamming like the shotgun

[quasi crystal]

Yeah it does have procs, the range and fall off are offset by the fact the next shot will be shot by a blind stormtrooper

[lavish jacinth]

I think you're misremembering how bad the recoil is lol

[quasi crystal]

Burst also has infinite range too I know what you meant but it bothers me burst has more range than the revolvers

I remember it missing a grovetender 30m away

[lavish jacinth]

Don't get me wrong, it's awful if you spam it

And they could stand to lower it a bit lol

But it's usable if you just don't spam

[quasi crystal]

I don't know it's just, weird design choice they could have just made it like fire slower when held down with no bloom or you could panic with insane bloom idk I just don't like if if I want to fire a gun slowly I have other survivors

[south egret]

it is

regardless of character or other items

a stack of shaped glass is always +100% damage, but laser scope is only +1 crit multiplier, meaning it slowly falls off

[lavish jacinth]

scope doesn't really fall off, it's effectively just +50% damage when you crit. But glass is 2x damage across the board so it'll always be better (apart from the health downside)

it would take at least 2 scopes to equal glass, plus guaranteed crits and no reliance on damage that can't crit like bleed

[south egret]

it's effectively just +50% damage when you crit
on the first stack. The next stack is only 33%. Then 25%. Etc

[lavish jacinth]

they fall off relative to each other, yes, but that's not what I'm talking about

2 scopes with guaranteed crit chance is still +100% damage on crits
1 glass is +100% damage overall
Outside of DoTs, 2 scopes and max crit gives the same bonus as 1 glass

[south egret]

true

[steady stone]

Does clover affect the drop chance of FMP, like the lunar coins? I'm pretty sure FMP can drop lunar coins, at least.

[glacial knoll]

Clover does not affect Lunar Coin drop rate

[steady stone]

Ah, thought it did since logbooks were included and such.

[full apex]

clover coins mentioned already, but other FMP drops like ghors tome are affected by luck

[dire harness]

can you down patch your game if you use the epic games launcher?

[analog brook]

Lived 4 years in a lie wow

[gusty anvil]

does plasma shrimp proc from a behemoth explosion?

[livid wedge]

It has no proc chance so no

The shrimp will explode from behemoth, though

[brisk juniper]

Does anyone know what I should do here?

[high forum]

use the artifact key on the object in the middle

[brisk juniper]

XD I hadn't seen it

[steady pike]

how can i find overloaded worm? Only monster out of my logbook

[ivory radish]

loop, wait a long time on s5, go to sirens

[tame rain]

is it normal that the game no longer launches after enabling eos crossplay stuff?

[slim spoke]

no

[tame rain]

🤔

I was about to play with a friend and he enabled that bc we couldnt get into a lobby (we are both on steam) and now the game doesnt load for him

Like straight up it dies on the loading screen.

[slim spoke]

rip

tell him to verify game files

[tame rain]

He reinstalled and now it's working 🗿

Okay now we have another problem lmao, is it normal when we start a lobby that it simply doesnt load? Like the character select screen

Depending whos the host it just shows the void to the other person.

[scenic raven]

how many times does focused convergence stack?

[ivory radish]

3

[scenic raven]

oh, my 8 isnt doing much then

[swift needle]

What could i have done?

[scenic raven]

I just spawned on a map with waterfalls? I dont have any dlc but the void

[scenic raven]

also wth is this?

like the boss?

[swift needle]

New dlc boss

[scenic raven]

oh

[scenic raven]

is the new dlc worth it?

[swift needle]

Yeah

[scenic raven]

better than the void dlc?

[swift needle]

No

[scenic raven]

some say its garbage, but I hear they may be making it better?

[flint prawn]

Check announcements

[scenic raven]

how far back?

[flint prawn]

on top of the latest one

They'll rework the whole DLC balance wise specifically

[hasty acorn]

On stage 5 when u activate the golden shrine do u need to align the teleporter a certain way to go through the golden portal?

[wide parrot]

no

[lavish jacinth]

You have to interact with the gold pillar things to get your skills back and cleanse lunar ruin, don't use them unless you really need to

[lavish jacinth]

Verdant falls isn't dlc, it was part of a free update

[lavish jacinth]

1. Make sure you both have the same crossplay settings. I recommend having it off since you're both on steam, but if that doesn't work try with it on
2. If either of you is running any mods, make sure you both have the same ones or just turn them off

[zinc jetty]

hey gamers are the aspects still glitched

[lavish jacinth]

iirc they were patched

[flint prawn]

They are fine to pick up now

[swift needle]

They all despawned when he did that

[glacial knoll]

You literally used one slightly before he did the attack, now you know to wait

Not fair or predictable to the player at all but yknow

[buoyant dune]

On ps The precent rate for sonorous whispers stills says 15% while on pc it says 5% is this visual bug or is it still 15% on ps

[quasi crystal]

It's a visual bug I'm pretty sure the ps has gotten the first patch post sots by now

[south egret]

if you're both on steam, just make a private lobby and invite him

[south egret]

the good news is, if you find a cleansing pool, you can get 5 free pearls

[bright pond]

hey chat what do tranquility stacks do

I think I remember hearing that they're small all-stats buffs

[wide parrot]

+1% to all stats

[bright pond]

Trying to figure out if 103% of 24 would round up or down...

[wide parrot]

what stat is it?

[bright pond]

Damage

[wide parrot]

down likely

[bright pond]

It is feeling like they aren't affecting ANYthing

It doesn't seem to be boosting my health

[left trellis]

tranquility stacks don't do anything until the 7th currently

it's +7% stats with 7 stacks or +0% with 6 or less

[bright pond]

Ah

So if you consume that 7th stack you're also back down to 100% stats

[left trellis]

I don't think so...? you don't lose the stack afaik

you can lose the protective buff but that's it

[slim spoke]

you keep the buffs till you lose saving grace

[bright pond]

Can confirm both of these things

Have better health with the 6 stacks and saving grace

My health went from 305 to 285 after losing saving grace

[ruby forge]

why is prayer beads considered a healing item..?

like able to drop from a healing chest

[lavish jacinth]

it can increase health and regen

[ruby forge]

man the state of the wikis is really bad

wiki gg doesnt even have item categories

and fandom is you know, fandom but even there prayer beads is only listed as a utility item, not healing or anything else

[lavish jacinth]

...it does tho?

but it also only lists beads as a utility item

but yeah the wikis are in a weird spot for all of the sots stuff

[ruby forge]

idk what wiki youre on, the one im looking at doesnt even have sots content?

[lavish jacinth]

you're definitely on the wrong wiki then lol

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Prayer_Beads

[ruby forge]

that is not in my search results lmao, only the ror1 wiki

[lavish jacinth]

can't blame you though, risk of rain has like 5 different wikis between 1, 2 and returns

[ruby forge]

which does not have an updated ror2 tab

[lavish jacinth]

I think what happened is that before ror2 got its own wiki, people were putting ror2 content on the ror1 wiki

and because google search is useless and terrible, it still puts the ror1 wiki stuff at the top of the search results even if you specifically search for ror2

[ruby forge]

😭 now the page isnt loading for me, can you check the item categories for scythe?

[lavish jacinth]

Healing

[ruby forge]

i swear i got it from a damage chest once

well anyway thank you

[lavish jacinth]

np

[gusty turret]

I wasn't taking this run seriously at all since I was just going for the bad medicine achievement but has anyone else been killed by a healing core?? and if so how does this happen???

[daring cloak]

THE FUCK?

[gusty turret]

naw that's my question I was so confused to see that 😭😭

[daring cloak]

Theres no fucking way

[wide parrot]

That should have the exact OPPOSITE effect

[gusty turret]

you would think 😭

[wide parrot]

wait…
Twisted Elite?

[daring cloak]

The only thing I could imagine would be that the core was in a twisted's aura and somehow the singular hit on it reflected the damage back to you

BUT THATS JUST COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC

[wide parrot]

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS

[gusty turret]

definitely could've been a twisted and again since I wasn't really taking the run seriously I wasn't paying attention

I just thought it was really funny that I somehow found a way to die to that

[wide parrot]

100 antler shields wtf

[gusty turret]

I wanted to see what it would do tbh

those plus the barbed wire and noxious thorn just punished anything that damaged me

[daring cloak]

And then you die to a healing core of all things

[gusty turret]

RIGHT 😭

at the end of the day it was a good run since I got 3 new artifacts and the achievement I wanted

[wide parrot]

Was it the ukes? Did you chain so many enemies in a twisted aura and the healing core was just the last one to hit you?

[gusty turret]

it definitely could've been, if I'm being honest I haven't encountered/had that many problems with twisteds so I don't really know how they function but that seems like it would make sense

[lavish jacinth]

that and/or a feedback loop with razorwire and antler shield

[wide parrot]

I thought that those items couldn’t be reflected to prevent feedback loops

[lavish jacinth]

they probably can't but idk for sure, I haven't really messed with twisted elites much since they're getting reworked anyway

the odds of dying to the healing core seem so low that I almost wonder if they have some weird interaction with twisted elites or something

[bronze palm]

When playing as engineer, your turrets gain the same items you do. so if you have an equipment such as the disposable missile launcher do your turrets occasionally fire the missile launcher?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, they can't use equipment

[daring cloak]

They still have them though

[lavish jacinth]

they do gain the effects of passive equipment though, so they can use elite aspects and fuel array

[daring cloak]

Ive always wondered about woodsprite with this

Theres no way they just get that healing right?

[lavish jacinth]

nah, woodsprite doesn't work

because the healing is technically part of its active effect, I think

[daring cloak]

Passively active

[lavish jacinth]

yeah idk how it works lol

[marble osprey]

I've messed around with it bc I have a hunch antler shields were intended to be a counter to twisteds
Most "on getting hit" effects don't trigger each other, same for anything proccing off one, so even if a razorwire starts a proc chain the whole chain is safe from causing twisted retaliation, and the same works in reverse, twisted retaliation can't trigger razorwire
Antler shield is the only exception to this, though. While it can't proc other on getting hit effects, so it's still safe against twisteds, it can be triggered by them for some reason, which you can use to kill stuff in the twisted area

So basically no feedback loops wouldn't happen

[bronze palm]

is there a maximum to the railguners M99 snipers active reload? or can you fill up the whole bar and every active reload is successful?

[tame halo]

do umbras get lunar items?

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[tame halo]

so getting 100 egozentrisms is not reccomendet

[lavish jacinth]

that would be a bad idea, yes

[daring cloak]

I mean thats just the kinda shit vengeance throws at you

[lavish jacinth]

the bar only extends to the right, so there's still a dead zone at the start

[full apex]

its in the equipment slot, which they dont have. so even if they hold it, equipment slot related code wont ever run

aspects are checked eslewhere which is why they work

[daring cloak]

Fuel array is an aspect confirmed

[bronze palm]

ahh, ok. thanks

[full apex]

also yea it feels like antler not checking the thorns mask is a bug tbh but maybe its intended lol

[scenic raven]

on the bandit challenge it says to kill something with 20 stacks of 'hemorrage' What is that?

[lavish jacinth]

it's the debuff that gets applied when you backstab an enemy with his secondary, basically a stronger version of bleed

[scenic raven]

so do i have to be invisible, then use the knife to get one stack of that?

[lavish jacinth]

well, any time you crit with his secondary, doesn't have to be a backstab

[lavish jacinth]

no, just be behind them

[scenic raven]

so just knife a enemy 20 times from his back?

[lavish jacinth]

pretty much

I recommend alloy worship unit since it's really tanky, most bosses won't survive long enough to get 20 stacks

[scenic raven]

so i've noticed

[daring cloak]

You can also stack crit chance to 100% so you dont have to go to the enemy's back

[scenic raven]

so lots of lense makers glasses?

[daring cloak]

ye works

[lavish jacinth]

eh, only if you really struggle to stay behind enemies

which isn't usually that hard since you can cloak lol

[scenic raven]

fair enough'

[lavish jacinth]

better to stack backup mags so you can backstab faster, and use lights out to refill them

[daring cloak]

Now personally I would recommend looking for bandoliers fuel cells and an fmp

[scenic raven]

so is hemorrage a debuff?

[lavish jacinth]

light's out refills all skill charges

[daring cloak]

If you get the build together it can give a lot of cooldown resets in a short time

[lavish jacinth]

yeah

[daring cloak]

Wait true noxious makes this so free

[lavish jacinth]

oh yeah, that's a thing

[scenic raven]

noxious?

[lavish jacinth]

item from the new dlc

[scenic raven]

Sorry if im a bit rusty, i started playing again after a 2 year break

[daring cloak]

Oh boy

So the game changed quite a bit

[scenic raven]

like ive played a few times inbetween now and then, but now im playing for long periods

[full apex]

i do like to recommend crit because you can just stand on top of AWU, backstabbing them off CD can be annoying sometimes otherwise

[scenic raven]

what is the backside to a magma worm...

[full apex]

purity also nice but you like 100% or at least pretty high for that. i think with that setup its pretty easy, just hold down m2 and wait

[full apex]

i think backstab is just being behind them but i dont rember exactly

[lavish jacinth]

they don't have one

worms can't be backstabbed

[full apex]

is it behind the worm controller?

that would make backstabbing the actual worm inconsistent

[lavish jacinth]

yep

[full apex]

yea i suck at reading vector code idk

i was trying to look and see if i could tell exactly how it works from there but eh

[lavish jacinth]

I think I remember pseudo talking about it a while ago, iirc backstab basically just checks to see if bandit is positionally behind the enemy and if they're both facing roughly the same direction

[full apex]

theres a lot of 'bodyforward' so i wouldnt be surprised

and this

so that could be the aim compare range

i thought if you were just behind them at all it would work for like atg and stuff but perhaps not

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, I think you have to be looking at their back

although I'm not actually sure how it interacts with procs, I assume crits are just inherited like normal

[full apex]

i do rember that for like atg, since crit is inherited, if you backstab and proc it then it will crit even if you move in front. but backstab is checked when damage dealt since its a damage type, so if you non-backstab non-crit an atg proc and move to where backstab is now valid, it will crit

so thats kinda funny

i think also true for like ceremonial daggers, they'll crit if you are behind

[lavish jacinth]

hang on, that gives me a really dumb idea

gimme a few minutes

[full apex]

i dont know where the clips from when i tested that stuff are (or if i even saved/shared any) but i vaguely rember testing it for the atg thing

talking about here is all i can find rn

[lavish jacinth]

so it turns out I was wrong, you don't need to look at their back, you just need to be behind them

which makes way more sense but was a little disappointing, I was hoping you could just turn around to make it crit lol

[full apex]

thats how i thought it worked

so neat to re-confirm

[lavish jacinth]

while I'm at it, what the heck is up with this autoaim

[full apex]

thats always been around yea

[scenic raven]

got any tips for the charge the teleporter under 10% health?

[full apex]

i noticed it early with mando

[lavish jacinth]

get it to 99%, jump off a cliff to get to 1hp, then come back and finish charging it

[scenic raven]

big brain

[full apex]

very fnuuy because enemies stop spawning at 99% so you can kill them all first

i dont actually remember, is 99% actually "100%" and charging to 99, leaving and killing boss completes? or do you need to go back for a split second to finish.

[lavish jacinth]

I thiiiiink you need to go back and do the last little bit, not 100% sure tho

[lavish jacinth]

I've known it was a thing but I don't think I ever realized how extreme it is lol

[full apex]

its quite silly yea haha

[lavish jacinth]

it's also odd how hitbox viewer visualizes the aim assist for some skills but not others

like, you can see it with viend's primary

I wonder if that's something with the mod or if it actually behaves differently for some skills

phase blast has it too

[willow olive]

You do, however, at the end it doesn’t actually go to 100%. The “100%” is when it crosses out the objective and changes to the proceed objective.

[bronze palm]

can someone explain how armour works? because as far as i know there is nothing telling you if or how much armor you have.

[lavish jacinth]

it just reduces damage taken by a percentage.
The way it scales is really simple, X armor = X% effective health

so like rose buckler is basically a 30% health boost while sprinting, assuming you don't have any other armor that it's adding onto

there's no way to see exactly how much you have without something like the lookingglass mod though, you just kinda have to remember your survivor's base armor (if they have any) and which items you have that give armor

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Armor

[bronze palm]

ok, thanks.

[remote stump]

Anyone else noticing enemy pathfinding kinda sucks since seeker of the storm?

[wide parrot]

that’s always been a thing. A lack of brain cells in lems

[analog brook]

Do you have the new umbrella setting on?

[dapper bison]

If you haven’t already done it, it starts at 0% and ends at 99%. So they’d want to stop at 97 or something like that. Standing near the edge and such. Titanic plains or distant roost probably works pretty well for it @scenic raven

I’ve noticed it several times, the moment it hits 99 it’s done I think

[lavish jacinth]

Or just leave the boss alive at low health so it doesn't finish

[dapper bison]

Definitely never says 100

[dapper bison]

Oh tru

[junior basin]

Are these stage 5 meteors?

[quasi crystal]

It might just be kills against environmental objects?

[junior basin]

Most likely

[quasi crystal]

Actually no that's way too high

[lavish jacinth]

The logbook is super janky, impossible to say what it is tbh

[junior basin]

I love using forgive me please on command

[lavish jacinth]

Whatever it is you've had zero interactions with it besides killing oy over 7,000 times

[junior basin]

I was spawn camping the stage 5 meteors at one point

[lavish jacinth]

I was just about to say it could be fmp activations lol

[quasi crystal]

Fmp is something I forgot about lol

7k makes sense again

[lavish jacinth]

That shouldn't have a stat in the logbook but like I said, it's glitchy af

[junior basin]

I tried getting the bands in an fmp run but forgot I pressed q once

No pots any% speedrun

[lavish jacinth]

A while back there was a guy here whose logbook said he had over 100 years of playtime as a lesser wisp

[quasi crystal]

Gotta respect that grind

[cedar pine]

if i had to get one of the dlcs which one should it be

[quasi crystal]

New ror2 update or ror2 boardgame

[lavish jacinth]

survivors of the void, easily

seekers of the storm has a lot of issues atm, they're working on a big rework but you should wait until after it's done before you buy it imo

[cedar pine]

ty

[wide parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[cedar pine]

what unlocks should i get first? besides survivors as i already got all of them besides the dlc ones

[wide parrot]

Just play the game and most of them will naturally come to you

[lavish jacinth]

Opening the secret door on aqueduct is an unlock worth going out of your way for, but otherwise yeah, most unlocks are things you'll do just by playing naturally

20 stages in one run is also worthwhile, and you can get commando's alt special at the same time if you want

[calm steeple]

im pretty new to ror2 what would be some good items for bandit

[lavish jacinth]

bandit's pretty flexible, as a general rule proc items and damage multipliers are good on just about anyone ( etc.)
Crit synergy items naturally work really well with his passive, especially
His alternate special also works great with burst damage items ( ). They work with lights out too but aren't as strong

also not really an item, but buying drones can actually buff his cloaking ability a bit. Enemies can still sort of track you when you're invisible, but if they have something else to target (like a drone) they're way more likely to ignore you and attack that instead.
(and drones are just generally useful for drawing aggro)

[calm steeple]

are the bands part of a dlc i didn’t see any 2 years ago then i took a break and i see people talking about them but ive never seen them since ive started playing again

[livid wedge]

Pretty sure bands were here 2 years ago

[lavish jacinth]

they've been in the game forever, they're the items you unlock from the secret area on abandoned aqueduct

[calm steeple]

how do you get there

[lavish jacinth]

there are two pressure plates hidden on the map that you have to press at the same time in order to open a hidden cave
engineer or captain are the easiest characters to do it with since turrets and beacons can weigh down the pressure plates

The wiki has screenshots of all the possible pressure plate locations if you want https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Abandoned_Aqueduct

[calm steeple]

thanks

[left tapir]

so with the artifact of devotion if i give them a red will they get that red or how does it work?

[wide parrot]

Whatever items you give the eggs, all of your lems will have

but be careful, as if the lem you originally gave that item to dies, they all lose it.

[left tapir]

thats actually very strong

[lavish jacinth]

it is

it's about as busted as command or sacrifice

[quasi crystal]

Give them a shipping request form

[left tapir]

🤨 does it work?

[lavish jacinth]

Just try it

[full apex]

fnuuy

i spoilered it in case you want to try it instead lol

[daring cloak]

Missed one

[full apex]

i wasnt sure which even were 4sure hahaha

[daring cloak]

2

[full apex]

i would have next_stage again but helminth is misery and within seconds over half the lems died, and i was like fuck re-collecting a bunch of eggs i dont care that much haha.

they really should have the lava immune tag imo, the ai is not good enough and in a normal devotion run it can ruin your entire setup since re-scaling them at that point is tough.

[daring cloak]

Same with fall damage

They always fall off, get to 1 hp and fucking die

[full apex]

honestly tho you can compensate a bit.. granted echo is broken rn but ive given them sets that help mitigate

you cant do anything about the lava 😔

~~give them stompers ~~

[quasi crystal]

They're absolutely broken being so vulnerable to environmental damage seems fine

[full apex]

thats maybe why i dont feel the fall damage was too crippling.

the lava just feels unfair.

some stonks aoe bosses can also wipe them out, but idk maybe thats fine. thats part of ror2 in a way

just that i can spawn in on an empty stage with absolutely no enemies at all, and in under 15s well over 20 lems is down to 5 or 6 is awful

fall damage wont ever be that bad lmao

[quasi crystal]

Does Eulogy zero work for enemies in void fields

[daring cloak]

Yes

[full apex]

they can get glass which is funny

[lavish jacinth]

There's also a nonzero possibility of them becoming heretic

[celest abyss]

is it normal to get bolstering lantern out of utility chests

cause i also get it out of damage chests

[analog brook]

It's just like that for some reason

[celest abyss]

k

truly unfortunate cause its white scrap

[quasi crystal]

Normal yes does it make sense no

[idle lion]

not sure where to ask, but whenver i try launching risk it stops loading at 53%. anyone have any idea why?

[quasi crystal]

Can you tricorn a happiest mask ghost of a boss monster

[quasi crystal]

What mods

[idle lion]

none actually, its vanilla

[quasi crystal]

Verify game files if on PC

[idle lion]

okok

it worked, i dont know why i didnt think of that.

[quasi crystal]

Glad it worked lol

[vestal radish]

can an item effect (i.e dagger bleed) only proc once per attack?

lets say i have 30 daggers. with a 1.0 proc attack will I only ever inflict one bleed per hit or will I get an average of 3 bleed procs per hit

[frosty reef]

You don't go above 100% proc chance so a 1.0 proc attack is maxxed at 10 daggers

[vestal radish]

so there is no situation where one attack would bleed someone twice?

actually i guess a situation might be if i shatterspleen and dagger proc bleed

[daring cloak]

Also no

Spleen and dagger cant combine procs

If both procced youd still only apply one bleed

[vestal radish]

even though the proc sources are different?

one is coming from the critical hit, the other is coming from the dagger roll

[daring cloak]

Yes

[vestal radish]

ok. thanks

[livid wedge]

They nerfed that with the sotv release

[lavish jacinth]

if you're just looking to maximize bleed stacks, is the setup you want

still only one stack of bleed per hit, but plimp + icbm basically gives you 3 extra hits per hit

[livid wedge]

Yeah, it's really strange they would take the double bleed away but have that combo

[lavish jacinth]

I'm guessing that combo is the reason double bleed was nerfed

[livid wedge]

Yeah but now daggers are useless if I get a spleen

[lavish jacinth]

convert them to needletick

[livid wedge]

Didn't know they were in base game

[lavish jacinth]

they're not, but you can also just scrap them

[livid wedge]

The point is they're literally scrap then, yes

[lavish jacinth]

also they're only useless if you have max crit, which you usually won't on a normal run

[livid wedge]

Even if you don't max it, it's still better because crit doesn't care about proc chance

Unlike the daggers

Unless you have an excess of daggers, the spleen is going to be better

[lavish jacinth]

spleen is better, but the daggers are still having an effect if crit chance isn't maxed

I'm just saying, situations where daggers are completely useless aren't that common

[livid wedge]

True

Still annoying when it happens

[lavish jacinth]

honestly if I've got max crit and shatterspleen on a non-command run, I'm not gonna complain about a few useless daggers lol

alternatively just acquire frost relic so the daggers can do something again

[livid wedge]

[daring cloak]

Do the small pillars from effigy block projectiles?

[quasi crystal]

no

[daring cloak]

Oooooo interesting

That property is shared between all versions

[waxen hull]

How does one play mult

His damage feels low compared to bandit and railgunner. Also idk whichh weapon is better

[quasi crystal]

What are you using now

[waxen hull]

The rebar

[quasi crystal]

Are you using retool or power

[waxen hull]

What are those

[quasi crystal]

what are you using from here

[waxen hull]

I did not know there was a load out

In other words one of each

[tender temple]

He means what special

I assume retool

The biggest upside of retool is that you can have 2 equipment at once which can be a huge power spike depending on what you get

While his m1s are generally just solid at scaling

[slim spoke]

fact: retool is spammable and is the main source of animation cancelling

[tender temple]

His shift does a good amount of damage if you ram into big enemies

His m2 is kinda poop not gonna lie but it's a free stun ig

You can also just replace it with hooks anyway

[waxen hull]

Ohhh

[tender temple]

Double rebar retool is a popular loadout

I personally just run default mult because I like it the most

[quasi crystal]

til happiest mask ghosts are immune to chaos artifact and void infestors

[slim spoke]

damn
shouldve made them go chaos aswell

[lavish jacinth]

If you aren't doing the rebar/retool spam thing then you should be using both weapons.
The whole idea with retool mul-t is to switch weapons and equipment depending on the situation, rebar is good at long range and for punching through crowds of enemies but has really low dps on its own. Nailgun gets a ton of procs and good damage but its range is short

Idk if you have any of his other primaries unlocked but the idea is the same

[left tapir]

double rebar with retool

if u spam retool it resets the rebar cooldown so its pretty strong

[quasi crystal]

Thanks for the tip

is this a placeholder?

[daring cloak]

Is what a placeholder

[quasi crystal]

the ending message

i looked it up though it is

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah, I think that's the default one for survivors that don't have an ending message

You see it with modded survivors sometimes

[daring cloak]

Ah that makes sense

[quasi crystal]

Yeah I was shocked seeing it thinking they made an escape message for scavs, disappointed but cool they had foresight

[flint galleon]

can you reroll scrap into other items of that rarity with the recycler?

[nocturne apex]

no

[flint galleon]

thanks

[daring cloak]

So how item pools work

green item ≠ green item

its easiest to understand with command because it lets you see and choose from the pools within tiers

You cant use command to give yourself scrap

You cant use command to give yourself the halcyon seed or turn the halcyon seed into another yellow

And other cases like that

[nocturne apex]

You could however, put them into a printer then reroll the output

[daring cloak]

Oh wait forgor to mention

Recycler follows those pool rules

[nocturne apex]

Also you forgot abt Captain's Microbots

Can't reroll into it

[daring cloak]

So special items like scrap, halc seed, artifact key, pearls etc. cant be rerolled or rerolled into

[peak jacinth]

did you mean green scrap for one of these?

[daring cloak]

yes

[flint prawn]

This changed to be that way after the Artifact update because people abused Command to give themselves boss items as far as I remember

[full apex]

I think it was always that way, just some items are flagged notier.

Boss printers used to spawn in the ambry, and that was fucked, but i think artifact keys were always just artifact keys

[glacial knoll]

worldunique or smth

[full apex]

Right yeayea

Thats it

[onyx marlin]

Do doppelgangers count as a boss for items like armor piercing rounds

[livid wedge]

The umbras? Yes

[glacial knoll]

anything with a red health bar so pretty sure

[flint prawn]

This was it yeah, I was wrong. Sorry about that

[noble cipher]

does acrid's leap count as sprinting?

wondering whether to go energy or goat

[flint prawn]

It should but only if you're sprinting afaik

Utility skills take sprinting to account in general so you should be able to use the soda just fine

[lavish jacinth]

it is, movement abilities are almost always considered sprinting

and the ones that aren't will generally let you sprint anyway, like railgunner's mines

acrid's leap actually has really good speed scaling, a few energy drinks will send him halfway across the map

[noble cipher]

yeah, just printed 8 energy drinks

I fly like 100m in the air

[flint prawn]

nyoom

[noble cipher]

lost run

died to stupid solus ground circle thing
thought it would go away when it died

goodbye 8 energy drinks, may my kidney stones remember you

[bright pond]

So I've heard it more than once, Blight is not as good as poison as poison's damage scales with health

But is there ever any points where blight is gonna do more dps?

Say you've got a bunch of bandoliers or whatever and can just fire off epidemic again and again

[quasi crystal]

Blight does well early game definitely when acrids attack and enemy health is low but it scales horrendously
https://youtu.be/_peYoNB--OM?si=rsI2vccyWSVY967a here's a video, I'm at work rn so I can't give a timestamp that answers your question in a really good way but it's a great video

[bright pond]

Oogh

This video is definitely very illustrative

I like them graphs

It's wack, you play this game more and realize that stuff that is presented as of-equal value absolutely isn't

Like stickybombs being a much worse dps boost than soldier syringes

[steady stone]

Does effect scav item rolls? The pickup, not what he drops.

I know it affects evolution and vields so I would assume so

[dusky raven]

Yes it can reroll the pickups

I believe

I sure hope I'm not wrong

[steady stone]

Kind of a strange circumstance but it got me thinking about like on a scav

And could the scav turn into heretic

[bright pond]

It does not!!

Oh wait you mean their skill

[steady stone]

As in what he picks up

[bright pond]

Yea i dunno my b

[quasi crystal]

If no one tests it or knows I'll test it in like 13 hours

Eulogy ignores the ai blacklist right

[wary gulch]

Anyone know why my friend cant join me/any games? when they click single player the game goes black and then bak the home screen

[peak jacinth]

Enemies can turn into heretic if they get all heresy items through artifact of evolution, so Id assume the same would be true for a scav

[peak jacinth]

make sure both of you are playing with crossplay off, it’s the first option in the settings

[wary gulch]

Bro my friend downloaded the game on steam and it asked him to verify with epic games WTF?

[peak jacinth]

yea it’s weird and causes a ton of issues for multiplayer

[peak jacinth]

I don’t believe there should be a reason why scav items aren’t affected by eulogy

[dusky raven]

can SCUs or probes be infected by void infestors?

[livid wedge]

Nope

Mechanical entities are immune

[dusky raven]

can they naturally spawn as voidtouched if they are a part of a void seed?

[wide parrot]

nope

[dusky raven]

uhh

then whats that

[quasi crystal]

They can spawn as voidtouched they can't get infected by an infestor
The only robot that can get infected by an infestor are chef ais

[dusky raven]

(because chef isn't considered a robot by the games code)

[livid wedge]

Correct

[dusky raven]

ok cool thanks

[quasi crystal]

Hopefully that's fixed by step 3 of the roadmap

[glacial knoll]

you sure they bothered to tag enemies with mechanical? cant awu still get voided?

voided AWU sounds like a nightmare

yeah he's tagged damn no nightmares anymore

[quasi crystal]

Awu can spawn voided in seeds I see it all the time in coop runs

It's just immune to being infected

[analog brook]

Awu or scu?

[quasi crystal]

Ohh I mistook awu for scu lol

[wicked cliff]

is there a mod to unlock all skills ? im so done with merc prismatic trial 😭

[flint prawn]

RealerCheatUnlocks

it WILL unlock Steam achievements though

[slim spoke]

whatever majester says
or you can use an online savefile editor

[wicked cliff]

anyone know a mod to hide the dlc lock items ? i don't have dlc and see one ytb there some people who can hide them

[calm steeple]

how do u kill the scavinger i spent 30 min trying to kill rhem but theyd keep regenerating after i got rid of there health

[wide parrot]

The scavenger had medkits

[lavish jacinth]

regular scavenger or twisted scav?

I'm guessing it was twisted, specifically kipkip

Killing him is an absolute nightmare, he has a ridiculous amount of healing from rejuv rack + corpsebloom and a bunch of healing items. You basically have to keep damaging him so medkit never procs, and bait his attacks so he throws the orange blobs far enough away that he can't pick up the monster tooth orbs (the globs proc on-kill effects if you didn't know)

Imho if you don't have enough damage to practically instakill him then you might as well just reset, there are four possible versions of twisted scav and kipkip is the worst by far so just pray you don't get him next time

if it was a regular scav then they probably had fuel cells and foreign fruit or something. If they're a world-spawned enemy you can just ignore them, but if they're a teleporter boss then it may just be a softlock unfortunately

[flint galleon]

N'Kuhana's doesn't work with transcendence right? Also, should, with transcendence, should I scrap my harvester's scythes or keep them for the crit?

[lavish jacinth]

it does, but anything that gives %-based healing will only count for 1 hp, so it's not really worth it

scythe is the only healing item that really works with transc/n'kuhana since it's a flat amount but can still give a decent amount of healing

if you care about making nkuhana's work (and it's not even very good tbh) then keep the scythes, otherwise scrap them if you have transc. 5% crit is pretty insignificant and you could turn the scrap into something much better

[flint galleon]

btw, does legendary scrap work with the soups in the lunar shop?

[lavish jacinth]

nope, they only take white and green scrap/items, respectively

[flint galleon]

k

[lavish jacinth]

but the red soup on commencement can take red scrap

[analog brook]

You mean the white soup?

[lavish jacinth]

the one that turns red items into 3 whites

[glacial knoll]

soups color is predominantly the color of the tier it will give you

also just glows the color

[sand plume]

hola

[lavish jacinth]

for some reason I've always thought of it as the tier of item that it takes, idk

[quasi crystal]

from what I can see, it doesn't affect his utility but it does affect the items he spawns with

[sand plume]

lights out or desperado?

[lavish jacinth]

Interesting that it doesn't affect the items they pull from their bag, I thought eulogy affected every random item roll. I guess the bag is handled differently from normal rolls?

[lavish jacinth]

desperado

lights out is fun but it loses usefulness too quickly

[sand plume]

what makes desperado better cause lights out has been consistently usefull to me

[lavish jacinth]

big damage, basically

[glacial knoll]

they never like updated the scav utility to "generate an item"

[lavish jacinth]

farming 30-40 tokens will let you oneshot just about anything when paired with the right items, and bandits cooldowns are already pretty short

it does fall off once your items are doing so much damage that it's hard to have enemies die to the revolver's damage, but that usually only starts happening in loops

meanwhile lights out kinda starts struggling as soon as enemies get too tanky for it to consistently kill within a cooldown cycle, which starts happening on like stage 3

[glacial knoll]

Twisteds don't grab from a pool they are all premade 4 different enemies

[quasi crystal]

They have the scavenge skill but I've never seen them use it

[shadow holly]

Hey guys, just quickly how do I loop after killing the false son?

[lavish jacinth]

just don't use the rebirth altar thing, take the portal that spawns off to the side

[shadow holly]

Got it sorted, thank you so much

[dusky raven]

Can Sonorous Whispers make Perfected elites drop items?

[analog brook]

Yes

[noble cipher]

anybody know a good way to speedrun unlocking MUL-T's power mode?
don't really find looping fun, so not especially looking forward to spending a ton of my time on a loop run just to unlock one thing

[dusky raven]

because i got 25 and nothing is dropping

[analog brook]

No way

Surely bad luck

[lavish jacinth]

well if you wanna make it as easy as possible, command/sacrifice/swarms/drizzle

optionally with devotion, iirc the lems don't follow you to void fields but you can give them for a ton of extra red items

[dusky raven]

wasnt the red item thing patched?

youll just get a bunch of white items

[lavish jacinth]

I don't think so? I don't remember seeing it in the patch notes at least

[dusky raven]

I've done a run with em and saw 1 red item

I can try again in ca bit to get proof

pretty sure they changed the stacking behavior

[lavish jacinth]

yeah, nothing in the patch notes about it. could've been an unlisted change ig
But I also haven't heard anyone else say it was changed

[dusky raven]

thats what makes me think im crazy

ill try it again after this run

[lavish jacinth]

how many lems did you have? because you don't usually start getting reds right away, you need a good amount of lems and let them level up a bit

[dusky raven]

I had 20

[lavish jacinth]

hm

[dusky raven]

also Mithrix didn't drop items so im pretty sure that Whispers just stops working if you stack it to high

[noble cipher]

just tried it, the devotion shipping request thing definitely still works

cant walk 2 steps without hitting an item

[frail crane]

Okay, I have a problem that I've encountered that I can't seem to find anyone else talking about, so I figured I'd try at least asking here (unsure if it is the right channel). So I love Essence of heresy, with the cavate that I also have a lysate cell, so that I can still stack it after use. Without a lysate cell the thing is kind of meh, but it is what it is and I do have a solution, so no problem, right? Well, this solution for some reason doesn't work on captain. On captain whenever I pick up a lysate cell while holding essence of heresy nothing changes, no new charges, cooldown or anything. Has anyone else encountered this before? And is there any way to fix this? (with mods for example). I'm not a huge fan of Captain's beacons and ruin would just perfectly solve it, but it just won't and it's driving me insane. I'll stop ranting now.

[lavish jacinth]

not sure if there are any mods that fix it (you can ask #ror2-modding tho) but that sounds like something worthy of a bug report
#1172187541349347429

[frail crane]

You think so? Was thinking about it, but it seemed a bit scary

[lavish jacinth]

playing captain shouldn't have any effect on essence of heresy since it's a totally separate skill from beacons and should interact normally with lysate cell

[frail crane]

Right? It's really strange

[lavish jacinth]

what's scary about it? it's definitely not how the item is supposed to work, that sounds like a bug to me lol

[frail crane]

I don't know how to do it and you know, maybe I did something and it's like only on my game save or something

[lavish jacinth]

you just hit new post and describe the issue
If you wanna be thorough you can try reinstalling/verifying files and disable any other mods you're running just to be sure

including a video or screenshot also helps, you'll need a role to post them tho #roles

[dusky raven]

but is it a red item?

the red items from devotion lemurians was def patched

[noble cipher]

there were quite a few red items, but mostly whites and greens like normal
not sure if red chance actually increased or I was just seeing more reds because there were more drops

[dusky raven]

first item i gave them was shipping request form

[frail crane]

I guess, if there is any chanse they'll actually see it I'll see if I can send a report. I'll just have to get the item and test without mods, as you suggested first. Thank you for the help @lavish jacinth

[dusky raven]

it used to be that it was only reds that dropped from them after 2 stages

but that has since been shadow patched

[lavish jacinth]

np
gearbox seems to be watching the bug reports pretty closely so there's a decent chance it'll get noticed

[frail crane]

I am. Though, not any that changes abilities, I think at least

[dusky raven]

I have run into issues with Ruin on captain before

like brainstalks not removing the cooldown

and that was before sots

[frail crane]

This too!

[lavish jacinth]

captain's special has always been a little janky, from what I've heard they're a giant mess of spaghetti code

[frail crane]

[lavish jacinth]

I mean more than usual
apparently ror2's skill system did NOT agree with the idea of single-use abilities

I'm not familiar with ror2's code but yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they hardcoded his special skill slot to behave differently just to get beacons to work

or something like that

[rose plover]

credit card or recycler?

[dusky raven]

what do you want

[lavish jacinth]

more items or better items

[dusky raven]

more items vs better items

on average of course

[rose plover]

that's the problem, i have both of them in the same stage and can't decide

[lavish jacinth]

card is proooobably the safer bet since more items also means more scrap that can be turned into good items, but recycler is also very good

[rose plover]

stage 5 going for some loops

[dusky raven]

card then

[lavish jacinth]

it's hard to say because they both have really good potential but are also heavily dependent on rng

[frail crane]

Resycler is for unlucky people who don't always get what they need and fear their own unluckiness. Credit card, on the other hand is for ballers with always good luck and who knows it

[rose plover]

aight, i think i'd go with recycler if i had more fuel cells

[frail crane]

Me too

[rose plover]

credit card it is, ty guys

[frail crane]

But I belive that it will change

And that's what matters

Eventually, at least... hopefully

[lavish jacinth]

everyone knows that recycler has a passive effect that makes you only get good items so that you never actually use it
but the moment you put it down, every item becomes trash

[frail crane]

100%. Only thing they coded perfectly.

[quasi crystal]

Card can't do this though

[merry shore]

Hey is ror2 cross platform between steam and Xbox?

[quasi crystal]

No

[merry shore]

Dang, thanks for answering

[quasi crystal]

Np

[quasi crystal]

Do the drone parts missiles fired from an engineer turret get buffed by icbm

[lavish jacinth]

iirc they don't

[quasi crystal]

Unplayable game state

[wintry crag]

What’s a good yellow item for Void Fiend ?

[wicked cliff]

anyone know how to do this ? it from starstorm 2 mods

[peak jacinth]

[wicked cliff]

aight thanks

[tiny geode]

how do you get railgunner? my friend told me i would get it by default after buying the dlc but they arent in the character select screen

[wide parrot]

Which DLC did you buy

[tiny geode]

oh

[queen gyro]

has anyone ever get clipped through the floor when using Chef's roll?
this has happened a lot to me mostly on distant roost and commencement

[dusky raven]

Not personally but I have heard reports of Chef doing that on occasion

[half cedar]

Does TR58 Carbonizer Turrets (laser ones) benefit from attack speed? I have 11 white scrap and syringe printer, but I'm not sure if it worth it.

Also they actually can sprint?? I always thought they can only walk and jump.

[steady stone]

They only sprint when far away from the player, which is why isn't generally considered "good" on them.

as for the attack speed, the description doesn't say otherwise, so i would assume yes

[half cedar]

Ok, I'll make this sacrifice for the science, I hope it'll be added to wiki

[half cedar]

I'm not sure whether or not it got faster honestly

I mean, numbers appear way faster, but is it actually worth 11 syringes?

[quasi crystal]

I can test it later

[analog brook]

How much corruption does vf actually get from taking damage? I'd it like, 25% of hp bar depleted = 25% corruption bar?

[slim spoke]

its a 4:5 corrupt to hp ratio i think

[half cedar]

I'd love to know exact numbers, thank you

[lavish jacinth]

They do

Attack speed scaling is weird sometimes due to frame rounding jank

...which is why the 11 syringes probably aren't worth it

Although to my eyes this looks like the numbers are at least a little over twice as fast in the second clip, but it's hard to be certain

[noble cipher]

anybody know if the lemurians from artifact of devotion are considered sprinting?

guess it doesnt matter anymore

all my lemurians got killed by a single void clay templar

except for 1 elder lemurian

who then got taken over by the void

[half cedar]

I haven't had anything better at the moment, and ended up getting two clovers at Commencement, which allowed me to defeat Mythrix with engineer's primary 💀

[fresh owl]

Guys I made a stupid mistake

Someone please tell me there is some way I can still loop back to stage 1 from commencement

I forgot to do it on stage 5

Welp, time to destroy mithrix then

i died in very last phase

[glacial knoll]

different sound and different color particle effect, this color is currently invisble green

as in they set the opacity to 0 so doesn't show up

which I guess is still different because the shrine just won't have any effect now

[feral willow]

hey gamers i forget is it null portal or void portal if you wanna keep loopin

i always mess it up

[wide parrot]

null

[lavish jacinth]

Just remember that void = voidling

[lucid dawn]

who pinged me

[left trellis]

oh cool. <@&559786374228738069> seems like someone is abusing an app to post ads now. very cool that that's a thing that can happen on this platform

[glacial knoll]

ban discord from discord

[low prism]

i got @ in here and i dont know why or who did it

[livid wedge]

Spam bot

[echo pawn]

What special ability is better for false son

[wind kernel]

default

[echo pawn]

ty

[quasi crystal]

@steady stone I gave a scav 10000 eulogy zeroes and it isnt taking lunars from its backpack so i think i can comfortably say eulogy doesnt affect their utility

[steady stone]

rip

[quasi crystal]

they can!

[wintry crag]

Does every map have their own set location for their environmental log ?

[lavish jacinth]

Hidden realms do, but it's random on normal stages

[wintry crag]

So only way to unlock the logbook for normal stages is through radio towers ?

[lavish jacinth]

Yep

[burnt pumice]

Nuh yh

[wintry crag]

No environmental logs or anything and just to make sure the monster logbooks drop on random right including mithrix?

[lavish jacinth]

Playing with sacrifice and command increases the spawn rates for radio towers a bit, so does playing multiplayer

Monster log drop chance is also affected by luck, so stack clovers

I think it's 3% for bosses

[agile oyster]

If I beat False Son on Monsoon, do I unlock both skins for a survivor in 1 run?

[quasi crystal]

Yuh guess I killed them too fast to ever see them use it

[noble cipher]

what are your guys' opinions between charged and thunder gauntlet?
not really sure what to go with

[wind kernel]

charged always better

thunder is a niche, if u have enough cooldown reduction with purity u can spam it without care about charging, but in all worlds charged is better

[flint prawn]

Honestly Loader is so broken you can just play both anyway

[lavish jacinth]

Charged is technically better, piercing means every enemy it hits gets the full damage of the punch instead of the flat 1000% from the lightning.
but honestly both are good enough that it doesn't really matter, thunder does feel better if you like playing her as a brawler so it's kinda up to playstyle preference

[copper sable]

on the topic of loader, what’s the alt secondary for her

[steady stone]

the other grapple pulls enemies towards you

[flint prawn]

And damages enemies

[copper sable]

but it still grapples?

ohh so it’s just better

[noble cipher]

it works like normal against bosses and the like

but things like wisps or lemurians get pulled to you

[lavish jacinth]

Nah
Dealing damage means it can steal crowbar

[steady stone]

the damage means it breaks and you cant build up as much speed because of them closing the distance

generally the best loader build is all default

[copper sable]

oh okay

[flint prawn]

I like killing wisps with the alt m2

[noble cipher]

I also prefer alt m2

[lavish jacinth]

Depends, thunderslam does have the really powerful slampunch tech

[noble cipher]

I don't much like crowbars
I find most of my damage on loader comes from bands, not a single hit

[copper sable]

i don’t think i could do the challenge anyway

[steady stone]

yeah but the speed potential makes it so much better

[copper sable]

yeah but i’m painfully bad at this game

[steady stone]

probably the fastest you can go in the game, without items

[lavish jacinth]

I know about the pylon boost too

[steady stone]

ok but my ending was better

[lavish jacinth]

It's great for speedruns but slampunching is more useful in general imo

[copper sable]

what’s the loader special alt

[steady stone]

also no, i got there first

[lavish jacinth]

A ground slam that deals 2000% in a smallish radius

[copper sable]

ooh

[flint prawn]

I miss 300fps loader every time I see a clip of her

[steady stone]

you lose being able to grapple onto pylons for a bit of damage

also the AoE stun can be nice

[lavish jacinth]

By itself it's kinda whatever, but there's a tech where you punch downwards while slamming from really high up, the speed of the slam gets added to the punch for a lot of damage

[copper sable]

i suck at grappling so it would probably be good for me, but again, i couldnt do the challenge

[lavish jacinth]

I have a clip I can send in a bit

[steady stone]

also thunderslam when grappled to extremely high points can get like exponential speed, can't it?

[lavish jacinth]

Yeah

[steady stone]

i saw a clip on wetland of it

[copper sable]

do y’all use artifact of command

[flint prawn]

No but that shouldn't really concern you. Play how you like

[steady stone]

i mean, for certain unlocks it can be unrealistic to get them without

like 20 crowbar huntress would take a very long run or a lucky printer

also if i just dont care to wait for the RNG to align for certain ones

[copper sable]

it feels wrong to use command

[copper sable]

isn’t it 12

[lavish jacinth]

this one?

[steady stone]

command isn't really for real runs, it's moreso for getting stuff

[copper sable]

once i got like 30 watches and fought fs it was silly

[steady stone]

😋

[copper sable]

the artifact def takes away some of the character of playing the game though

[lavish jacinth]

it can be for real runs if that's how people wanna play

[copper sable]

there’s no more suspense or hope to get a specific item

[steady stone]

yeah, that's why it's moreso for going into it with an idea

most people wouldnt do it in their average runs

[lavish jacinth]

I mean, there are people that do

[steady stone]

but most people

[lavish jacinth]

sure, but still

I just don't like to gatekeep what's considered a "real" run lol

[flint prawn]

Living up to his name

[flint galleon]

do the 20 crabs for the gesture of the drowned unlock have to be done all in a single run?

[full apex]

nop

[zinc jetty]

is there a way you can view your stats? i tried using a mod but it didn’t work.

[lavish jacinth]

which mod did you use? bc there isn't a way to do it in vanilla but the LookingGlass mod should work

[quasi crystal]

Any mod that reverts the thunder slam sound fix I want to hear the power

[bleak arrow]

sometimes i get randomly knocked out of Sojourn playing as seeker, any ideas as to why?