ror2-game-questions

[daring cloak]

I used to hate the screenshot button on the switch but now I could not live without it

All this footage at a moments notice

[lavish jacinth]

all of this nonsense needs to be documented

[daring cloak]

I should post all 500 images and videos I took of this game

[peak jacinth]

YES! didn’t you test it a million times and couldn’t get it?

[daring cloak]

Oh nvm looked wrong its 600

[lavish jacinth]

yep! iirc I estimated I did around 1 million equipment activations and it never happened

I'm guessing it requires some really specific circumstances along with just being rare

[daring cloak]

It could also have been a really funky bitflip

[full apex]

[lavish jacinth]

the thing is though, it happened at least twice that we know of

[daring cloak]

I love jokingly explaining everything nonsensical as being because of bitflips

[peak jacinth]

its the solar rays man

[lavish jacinth]

we need to figure out this glitch, it's gonna be huge for the death% run

[analog brook]

Man that was crazy

[daring cloak]

All these bugs...

OH ALSO (how many times have I said this today)

With this egg bug I was able to just remain in the bazaar after newt tries to kick you out

If I ever do this again I will try to see if I can go to one of the later planetarium rings before voidling

[split vessel]

How do I get past e 4 engy it’s so hard to do

[daring cloak]

What was e4 again

Oh right I rember

You can place your turrets behind most walls where they will be shielded but still be able to shoot enemies themselves

As for you yourself I would recommend getting used to using the stage geometry as protection against projectiles and hitscan due to engis limited movement

[lavish jacinth]

if you don't have spider mines and harpoons unlocked, get them

[analog brook]

Something that made me go from DESPISING engi to tolerating him is learning skill priority, it's basically a cycle of turrets - > harpoon - > mines and then primary if you really don't have any else

[lavish jacinth]

the nice thing about engie's kit is that he requires almost no aiming, so you can focus entirely on dodging. usually I try to circle around the edge of a fight while tossing bombs and missiles into it, with my turrets in the center

[full apex]

yea and you can sprint after starting a charge like captain to move around while storing a stronger attack, and then you probably have something else off CD to use after as well so m1s are more a 'weave while dodging' thing

or you just take visions lol

[lavish jacinth]

ideally you want your turrets to be drawing most of the aggro as well. if I'm exploring the map and not in a big fight I like to stagger them, place one at a time while hanging onto the charge for the other one. that way you'll always have one out and acting as a distraction, with the other one always ready to go if you get swarmed and need it

[robust leaf]

I’ve been having issues with Double rebar retool MulT

The old trick of remapping R to M2 and then holding down M1 and M2 doesn’t seem to work anymore ever since the new updates even with soldiers syringes

Anyone else had this issue?

[daring cloak]

Im gonna go check this

Nop still works perfectly fine on console even without attack speed

What is with pc and double rebar retool not working properly?

[robust leaf]

Not sure - is this a common problem? It’s a huge QoL hit

[lavish jacinth]

it's working fine for me

[full apex]

woah how do you conveniently shopping mall like that

[lavish jacinth]

works with it bound to R too

[lavish jacinth]

debuggingplains

woah wtf did I just do

[robust leaf]

Do you hold both down or alternate in pressing

[lavish jacinth]

TIL that discord lets you embed links into text lol

[lavish jacinth]

holding both

[robust leaf]

Strange
It would animation cancel and cancel the shot for me

[lavish jacinth]

weird

[robust leaf]

And just keep retooling with nothing being shot

[full apex]

that is odd

[daring cloak]

I have noticed that beetles tend to sometimes walk through terrain

[ornate gust]

Happens to lemurians aswell

Ive seen it happen a lot after the update

[full apex]

WAHTs the boy doing!

[ornate gust]

It usually happens on surfaces that have inclines or slopes and stuff

[daring cloak]

I love that the beetle was hidden in such a way that it looks like it was just a hallucination

[full apex]

no way he just ended his life and you didnt even get paid for it

[ornate gust]

Lmaooo

He just dissappeared

[analog brook]

Actually does knockback fin killing enemies from fall damage give money?

[daring cloak]

gone... reduced to atoms

[full apex]

that was actually so funny i was dying lol

[full apex]

good question, since you had to have damage them it should but you never know for sure

[kind citrus]

What's the best method to getting The Demons And The Crabs legitimately?

[daring cloak]

Use rex and push them off with the utility

[lavish jacinth]

titanic plains stage 6 and chase them off the cliff

[kind citrus]

i'm not against using artifacts either

just dont want to cheat it in

[lavish jacinth]

turning off dlcs helps with getting the right map too

[daring cloak]

Primordial cube will help too

[lavish jacinth]

or railgunner mines

[kind citrus]

wouldnt shattered abode work

[lavish jacinth]

anything that moves enemies around without doing damage

[shut thunder]

When playing the void fiend, when transforming do you also transform any items you have to their void version?

[lavish jacinth]

if it has hermit crabs yeah, I don't remember if it does tho

[kind citrus]

can you get crabs stage 1 with dissonance

[lavish jacinth]

swarms helps, although you'll have to be more careful to not kill crabs by accident

[lavish jacinth]

nope

[lavish jacinth]

no, for some reason they don't spawn at all with dissonance

don't bother with kin either, it's a huge gamble

command helps with making the game easier in general obviously, and it lets you easily avoid stuff like tesla coil that might accidentally kill crabs

overall it's not really difficult though, just tedious

[daring cloak]

Actually knockback fin and frailty on abyssal?

[lavish jacinth]

oh, maybe

knockback fin actually being useful??????

[kind citrus]

does OSP save you on frailty if you fall off the edge

[lavish jacinth]

maybe? I wouldn't trust OSP to save me from anything ever, lol

if you're worried about fall damage you can just use loader

[kind citrus]

oh true

[full apex]

im p sure it makes it bypass OSP

but i dont really play eclipse or frailty so i wont say 100%

[daring cloak]

I mean without frailty fall damage already ignores osp

It just sets you to 1 hp

[lavish jacinth]

OSP sucks yet again

[full apex]

i kinda thought OSP worked for it but i really dont remember

it is nonlethal normally tho

yea

not with weakassknees tho

[analog brook]

Poor commando always enduring this...

[full apex]

my poor boy

[daring cloak]

And I thought my pancake head arti was bad

[lavish jacinth]

but does he beat naked mithrix

I love this image, it's like a bigfoot sighting

[full apex]

thats scary hahaha

[ornate gust]

Mee3ix

[austere vale]

is the dlc now worth or is the game still borked

[left trellis]

game is not really broken anymore (that wasn't the DLC's fault, the update did that)
DLC worthiness is. subjective. personally I think with mods to rebalance Chef and the items it's pretty alright

[ornate gust]

Id say its worth but they are working on some more issues so u could wait for the next patch to come out and get it, game isnt that borked tho

[shut thunder]

to get the false son, after i get the seed do i follow the green or gold portal?

[left trellis]

green

[shut thunder]

awesome thank you

[minor bloom]

This game isnt real

[ornate gust]

rip

[swift stirrup]

how do I get multiplayer to work? No servers or lobbies are showing up

[ornate gust]

Check whether u have cross platform or anything on

Or wifi

Or could just be that no one is playing rn

[swift stirrup]

thanks

👍

[icy topaz]

is the new artificer floating mechanic bug or intentional

instead of holding the space bar to float you now just press the space bar once to float

[livid wedge]

It's a toggleable option in settings

[icy topaz]

oh nice

[icy topaz]

thanks

[livid wedge]

Used to be only on the switch, then they brought it to all platforms

[tacit summit]

does repulsion armor plate work on the warped echo damage

[frank sluice]

i would imagine they do, but at the level that warped echo works. RAPs probably don't matter that much

[tacit summit]

yeah i just got it in the void fields

[frank sluice]

ultimately, warped echo's effects only really show when it's a big hit

it's an item designed for that specific situation

for big hits, RAPs don't really matter

iirc RAPs no longer reduce void damage as well? Since SotV I believe

yeah that's true, since SotV no longer works for void damage

[tacit summit]

yeah i meant the mobs got that combo

5x warped echo 5x repulsion armor plate

[frank sluice]

oh shouldn't matter then lol

unless you pepper them like Commando or MUL-T Nailgun

[tacit summit]

i am commando

[frank sluice]

wouldn't be that bad but would be pretty insufferable

[solid minnow]

What is warped echo usuful for? Aside from the combo wth medkit

[ornate gust]

It gives you time to heal or get to safety when you get hit with a large attack

[solid minnow]

How?

[ornate gust]

During the few seconds of it hitting the second hit you have time to get away

Its still gonna do the same amount of damage its just that it gives you a bit more preparation

[solid minnow]

Icy

[ornate gust]

Its only really viable if you get hit once

And then never again

Never again meaning, if you get hit multiple times its usage kinda falters

[solid minnow]

Any other like with synergies with armour plates (does it even work with it?) and medkit?

[ornate gust]

Yes it works with armour plates

All the warped echo does is split the damage u get 50/50 and gives one 50% first and then the next 50% 3 seconds later

So if u have a RAPs it'll just do the same thing but with the damage reduction it gives u

[solid minnow]

hmm very nice

oh also, it says something about splitting it again when having more stacks. How does this work?

[ornate gust]

I assume it just does the same thing but to 2 attacks u take

How the exact timing works that im not really sure cuz I havent tested it out with multiple echos to know myself

[solid minnow]

So I still take 50% of the dmg at first but the other 50% gets split AGAIN.

Basically the other 50% gets spread over a longer peroid of time the more stacks you have (I think?)

[ornate gust]

No I dont think the second split of damage can get more split

[solid minnow]

Nevermind, it says "Every additional item increases how many instances of this effect the player has"

So if I have 2 it gives me 2 of the warped echo buff

[ornate gust]

Yes

[solid minnow]

So if I get hit once, 1 buff will be used and be on cooldown while the other is still there?

[ornate gust]

Yep

[solid minnow]

Or the other 50% will use the 2nd buff? Kinda like a chain reaction

[ornate gust]

I dont think the first warped echo split damage will count to the second one

The second one will probably be triggered when you get hit by something else again

[solid minnow]

Icy

Thx ma brotha

[ornate gust]

No probs

Someone can correct me if i was wrong anyway

[analog brook]

Keep in mind that even though planula and RAPS work on the first hit they don't work on the 2nd hit from warped echo

Aswell as delay recharge like opal, shield and slug

[plucky smelt]

My assumption is that these are the variants of Bulwarks Ambry but when I collect the logbooks in each of the variants they don't fill out,

are there somehow 3 levels I've not seen?

or are these glitched entry slots like we've gotten in the past

[sturdy phoenix]

Their glitched i have every environment log but i still don’t got em unlocked

[solid minnow]

Warped echo sucks confirmed

also thx for info

Can't forget that

[solid minnow]

how many fazballs do you sell daily? I am a serious buyer

[ornate gust]

Yeah tis a bug

[tacit summit]

is it okay for sale star to give you only 2 items from a chest despite you having 5 stacks

[ornate gust]

Yeah its a higher chance to get higher amount

It can still give u two, das just unlucky

[tacit summit]

oh okay

i thought each one gave like +1

[ornate gust]

Nah its just a 5% increase for more items with each stack

[tacit summit]

oh okay

yeah seems more balanced than i thought

[ornate gust]

Yep

[rapid current]

does clover affect

sacrifice

[ornate gust]

Nope

[hoary sedge]

huh that's kinda surprising considering it affects elite aspect drops

[ornate gust]

Cuz the artifact isnt like a luck based thing

Its a modifier

So its not part of a vanilla run, its a condition given to your run so nothing external can, and shouldnt, have any effect on the artifact to keep consistency

"Luck does not affect chest spawns or contents, Shrine of Chance outcomes, the chance for an Artifact Key to drop, or the chance for monsters to drop items with the of Sacrifice enabled."

[tacit summit]

wait sale star+ choice chest gives you multiple copies of selected item

[ornate gust]

Adaptive chest? yep it does

[thorn osprey]

I have a question but I need an experienced mercenary to answer

I have 4 gestures of the drowned , and there's a spinel tonic , should I take it ?

it would increase the attack speed so much it will hurt merc

[ornate gust]

The attack speed increase is fine

The only thing u wont be able to do is do the m1 expose trick with the dash

[thorn osprey]

it's much harder to expose with focused assault with high as

[ornate gust]

If youre able to manage the time its off cooldown it should be fine

But i would say get a fuel cell

[thorn osprey]

I tried it and it was hard

[ornate gust]

Yeah thats fine

[thorn osprey]

why ?

[ornate gust]

So u have more chance to have the tonic up

[thorn osprey]

i have it up 100 %

[ornate gust]

Oh

[thorn osprey]

4 gestures = 100 &

[ornate gust]

Then its fine

[thorn osprey]

1 gesture + 3 combination of fuel cells or gestures , because gesture gives 15 % like fuel cell after first stack

[ornate gust]

Like just with focused assault?

[thorn osprey]

same for m2 and eviscerate

I solved the issue

[ornate gust]

Yeah but i think the pros outweight the cons cuz u travel faster and attack faster

[thorn osprey]

and even made it better

[ornate gust]

Awesome

[thorn osprey]

i took a ligth flux pauldron

[ornate gust]

Oh wow lmao

[thorn osprey]

now i have all my cooldowns -2

[ornate gust]

But no mo speeeeedy

[thorn osprey]

and my attack speed is now 0.91 instead of 1.8

light flux is generally bad because it halves attackspeed after all calculations

except in this situation lol

[ornate gust]

Having more attack speed doesnt hinder merc, i much prefer more on him anyway

[thorn osprey]

my movement is still fast as hell

[thorn osprey]

depends on how you play him

[ornate gust]

Yas at least your dash will go zoomin

[thorn osprey]

anyway i got -2 skill cooldown

[ornate gust]

Yeah if u want the expose trick on him generally u dont want attack speed

Awesome

[thorn osprey]

I'm happy till the end of the week

[ornate gust]

Heck yeah

[thorn osprey]

I'm still a newbie tho

eclipse 1

[ornate gust]

Oh im yet to play eclipse

[thorn osprey]

you changed to merc lol

[ornate gust]

Yes i did

Hes my most played

I had railgunner cuz i liked the colour it gave

[thorn osprey]

lol I don't like arti color but I love her

[ornate gust]

How many hours u have?

[ornate gust]

Yeah she very fun

[thorn osprey]

93

[ornate gust]

Oh waw lmao

I have 400

[thorn osprey]

NO I GOT SUNDERED GROVE

[thorn osprey]

lmao

[ornate gust]

Thats okay u can jam to the music

[thorn osprey]

I hate the biome

prefer abyssal or siren's call

although siren is kinda harder than them

[ornate gust]

Siren has vultures elder lemurians and brass bitches

But i like the map itself

Tbf all of the stage 4s have hard enemies so eh

[thorn osprey]

I don't really , it's kinda mazey

[ornate gust]

Yeah true, the caves can be a bit of a clusterfuck

U get used to it

I should really try eclipse, but im waiting to get all the abilities

[thorn osprey]

I died while havng pinpoint larva

I had 3 runlad bands and one kjaro

I wish I died permenantly

[ornate gust]

ggs

[deep osprey]

I haven't been playing ror2 for quite some time, did they add 3 new achievements, and if so how do i complete them?

[ornate gust]

Its for the new dlc

Its just unlocking 2 of the survivors and beating the new boss

[deep osprey]

Kinda sad i need to use 15euros to get 100% in this game again

[obtuse geyser]

Can artificers nano bomb bolts scale with attack speed?

[full apex]

Only the chargup time scales with AS

[daring cloak]

Im unsure if they meant the bomb or bolts but safe to say the bolt cooldown is most likely also affected by attack speed

oh wait I understand now yeah no the projectile itself functions the same no matter your attack speed stat

[glacial knoll]

damn this math is really wrong who the hell updated this

[left trellis]

these numbers were added in this revision, by "Spooptr", <t:1725797520:R>: https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/index.php?title=Sale_Star&oldid=27518

[analog brook]

Out of curiosity what's te proper table for this like, if you have one?

[glacial knoll]

yeah i'm updating it but just like for this. Just because you succeed at the "3 item roll" doesn't mean you automatically like fail the 5 item roll

You always, have a 1% chance here for 5 items. Idk how he got 0.1

[left trellis]

how exactly does Sale Star do its thing? is the description on the wiki correct?

do all of those % chance rolls occur, or do they happen one after the other only if the previous ones succeed?

[frank sluice]

at 2 stacks and above, it rolls each of the 3-4-5 chances sequentially

and updates the number of items dropped at each one

so if 3 succeeds but 4 and 5 fails, it drops 3

you can see that the one that succeeds last is the number dropped, hence 5 is rolled last

2 drops by default

[glacial knoll]

no all the chances are just rolled independently and the highest one gets chosen

actually nevermind seems like "break;" acts differently in c# as opposed to the top google answer

so It is only if the previous roll succeeds

[trim narwhal]

mfw cant really test in game and idk how to view the games code so i will have to believe anything anyone says on the internet

if someone comes in here and says u get 53.0001% to get 12 items if u have 99 sale stars i fear i will have to believe them

[frank sluice]

wait really? lemme look at the code again

[glacial knoll]

if you fail a roll

break;

I was under the assumption it would just go the next Loop of the for

Seemingly in c# that's not how that works

[frank sluice]

oh that's right

I bet it's a mistake though, maybe they meant continue?

[glacial knoll]

idk why you'd think that

Like it makes stacking sale star a lot worse but idk

[frank sluice]

the odds of 4 and 5 is already set to be smaller

I think they meant for the rolls to be independent, no?

[grim kraken]

i need to kill mitrix or work for DLC final boss seeker of the storm?

[analog brook]

Mithrix's final phase @grim kraken

[grim kraken]

allright thx

[full apex]

grab DNspy

then open the games assembly csharp

[brazen sluice]

hey @full apex not sure if youre still in testing mode, but one thing id like to see is weather or not soujorn protects you from reaver/jailor/etc explosions

[full apex]

i have heard it does! but im not positive myself i would have to try it

[brazen sluice]

it protects against literally everything else, just not sure about that one

[full apex]

i know strides does, specifically because it removes your hitbox while active

void reavers pierce all normal invincibility even like from the dios revive so

[brazen sluice]

wait since when? i could have sworn ive been revived from a dios after that before

[full apex]

you revive but the invincibility applied after reviving wont save you from an implosion

so if you die before it ends or multiple happen back to back it can kill you through that

like right after the revive

[brazen sluice]

ah ok i thought you were saying 1 implosion will just punch through all your dios

[full apex]

ah yea no that would be fucked up haha

[brazen sluice]

well to be fair, voidling does that

cuz its implosion is "suck the player in and apply a constant rapid implosion effect over and over"

[full apex]

yea that'll do it

[brazen sluice]

i had a plan to test soujorn next time i make it to the escape sequence with an in-tact dios, but if youre able to just use your testing environment to test it that'd be much faster

[full apex]

ah yea it would be pretty painless to try out, im playin tabletop sim with a friend rn tho so i dun wanna launch ror2 maybe

[brazen sluice]

fair

[full apex]

wouldnt be the first time i just ran ror2 on top of a completely differnt game tho lol

the game she picked is taking a long time to load lol

[brazen sluice]

i tried launching it while i had ark survival ascended open.....not my brightest move

[olive silo]

how does seeker's revive work?

wiki just says "revives one or more dead survivors", so if you're playing solo does it work like a dio's?

[brazen sluice]

no

[olive silo]

bruh

[full apex]

when you hit 7 stacks of tranquility, you revive deceased players, and live players are given the saving grace buff. which is like a big heal when you get to low hp or something

[brazen sluice]

if youre solo you get a "saving grace" buff that basically acts like a

[olive silo]

i see

[full apex]

its only once per stage, and since you cant hit 7 stacks while dead, you cant revive yourself. the best you can do is give yourself saving grace

[olive silo]

that explains things

[brazen sluice]

kinda lame that saving grace is tied to all the other benefits of being 7-stacked so if you pop it at any point, your stats are perma-nerfed till the end of the stage

[olive silo]

wtf

that sucks

saving grace acts as your 7th stack?

[brazen sluice]

yes instead of getting a 7th stack and then getting a separate "saving grace" buff

[olive silo]

that really sucks

[brazen sluice]

no1 accused GBX of making good decisions 😛

[olive silo]

touche

[brazen sluice]

except for sale star. that was an excelent decision

[olive silo]

also, what is false son's growth? also charmlie what the fuck

[full apex]

void reaver sojourn

it saves you

[brazen sluice]

so you are protected. bruh that baility is so busted

[olive silo]

goddamn

[loud oar]

Does anyone know how to get hatched zoa logbook entry? I can’t find it anywhere

[brazen sluice]

saying you basically exist on another plane of existance doesnt even do it justice cuz it even protects from bleeds/fire/etc

[olive silo]

corrupt a boss item with void dio's or use a horn on a void devastator

[brazen sluice]

my favorite is abusing blood shrines with it. money printer go brrrr

[loud oar]

I know I can use a horn on a void devastator but where do void devastators spawn

Idk if I’ve ever seen one

[brazen sluice]

shoot a void devastator with a

[full apex]

i did not know thats how that worked lmao

but it totally does just leave you at 6

[olive silo]

deep void and looped runs when the void bleeds into existence or smth

[brazen sluice]

they sometimes spawn in stage 5+ void seeds

[olive silo]

don't remember what the message is

[brazen sluice]

hmmmm, does the gun stop the implosion?

[loud oar]

Do I need to be on monsoon for them to spawn or can I just play on normal and keep looping until I find one

[brazen sluice]

unless its been changed, corrupting a boss item doesnt do it

[olive silo]

am i thinking of the wrong item then?

no it is the yellow void item

but at least the wiki says you can get it from corrupting a boss item with a pluripotent larva, i think that's how i got my first one\

[brazen sluice]

game difficulty doesnt affect things liie what enemies spawn per say. itll make the timer-based difficulty increase slower which could result in tougher enemies not spawning until later stages tho

[loud oar]

Yeah that makes sense

I just don’t wanna die before any of them can spawn in bc I don’t have enough items and I’m not great at the game

[brazen sluice]

ive done that so many times and i still dont have the log last time i checked. dont have the game up atm to check tho and i have ark survival ascended open....

[olive silo]

i'll test i guess

[loud oar]

I’ll just keep looping until I find one in a seed

Thanks for the help

[brazen sluice]

careful, looping too far can easily make it so they just die instantly without you even doing anything

[loud oar]

Alr

[brazen sluice]

no joke i got far enough into simulacrum once that everything instantly died the instant they spawned and i just sat there thinking "wtf dealt damage?"

[olive silo]

ror2 moment

[brazen sluice]

i didnt even have razorwire

like wtf did the first damage hit?

i gave 0 input

[olive silo]

you're right, i'm stupid

wait no

it does work

@brazen sluice just tested it, it does work

[clear ibex]

is there really no cross play 🥹

[daring cloak]

Nop no crossplay

[brazen sluice]

yea that gets you the item, but last time i checked it does NOT give you the log book

[olive silo]

oh huh that's so weird

[daring cloak]

Ye unless they changed it it doesnt give the log

[olive silo]

?????? why

[daring cloak]

Since you technically never picked up zoea

[olive silo]

[brazen sluice]

yea corrupting something doesnt count. so corrupting bands wont give you the sing-band log

you have to actually pick up a sing-band, or in this case a zoae

[olive silo]

so by that logic, would benthic bloom also not unlock logbook items?

[brazen sluice]

most likely not

[olive silo]

weird

TIL i suppose

[bitter mural]

this worm wont come out :(

[rigid tangle]

Hey guys, has anyone else been having issues with disconnections & ping with online multiplayer recently?

It's been happening to me and my partner pretty consistently recently... just wondering whether it's to do with our internet somehow or if it's a known issue?

[royal drum]

why does it say "crit strikes cause hemorrhage" for bandit when that isnt the case? i just stacked lenses for guaranteed crit yet it isnt causing hemorrhage when i crit, is it only caused by the ability even tho it says crits cause it as bandit?

[daring cloak]

Well yes if the secondary crits it applies hemorrhage

Thats what it says

Its not every attack

[royal drum]

only the secondary applies it if it crits. oh ok, thanks

im guessing nothing else causes hemorrhage then? just his secondary

[trim narwhal]

ye

[thorn osprey]

in your opinion what's the best artifact of command run

[peak jacinth]

imo a forgive me please build with strides and bandolier

since you’re invincible

[knotty mist]

how did this even happen?!

Literally off spawn I had to fight it

[feral zinc]

What’s the best primary on huntress?

[eternal storm]

strafe is generally better unless you loop or play command as flurry only becomes better once you get like 40% crit chance

[eternal storm]

thats interesting ive never seen a greater wisp right off the bat

[eternal storm]

1000000 antler shields

[keen brook]

is runic lens intended to trigger on self damage from sojourn?

[haughty tapir]

and -2000 bison steak

[haughty tapir]

intended? doubt it
will they remove it? maybe but preferably not it sounds funny

[keen brook]

i'm seeing these explosions happen and i'm not sure if it's the noxious thorn trying to proc on enemies or if i'm getting blasted by my own red

on second thought i'm pretty sure it was the thorn and i wasted my free potion for nothing lmao

[analog brook]

Yah it's thorn

[keen brook]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-eto-bleh-anime-bleh-gif-26784876

[tawdry stratus]

ayep

when we have crossplay on it'll disconnect everyone at some random point and if we dont have it on we just cant join eachother for some reason

was fine before the bug fix update

[rigid tangle]

😭

Okay, glad it's not just us. We were having that exact same issue before we switched crossplay on also

Have we heard anything from the devs about this yet? It's a real shame because we're loving the DLC, and the game in general but it feels unplayable right now

we've been trying to beat the new DLC boss for like, 7 or 8 attempts now and every single time something happens out of our control that just stops the game from working

[tawdry stratus]

No clue tbh, would hope that the devs are aware since it doesnt seem too uncommon now

[viral sorrel]

at what percentage health threshold does sojourn end

[trim narwhal]

it feels like 10-20% of green hp out of total hp to me (meaning transcendence = popped out real fast) but i havent rigorously tested this

[viral sorrel]

i wanna say its 10%, no?

if so then stacking shaped glass up to 3 to make your hp 12.5% of base

[trim narwhal]

you would pop out pretty early as well im pretty sure

[viral sorrel]

which should make rap much more effective because you take percentage of max health in sojourn

[trim narwhal]

but you dont

[viral sorrel]

yes you do

up to 20% total health/tick

[trim narwhal]

give me a minute lemme find my proof

[trim narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901542787055636/1285726095164833855/2024-09-17_18-12-03_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66efee7c&is=66ee9cfc&hm=29ee73e228bb6dd38b070dab690a232d8cabdcfccbe354327cf2514925808a1b&

look here, when i give myself a ton of steak, is my sojourn dmg increased?

the base dmg is only increased by your level, not your hp

[viral sorrel]

by your base hp

its 20% of your base hp per tick

[trim narwhal]

no, because you have base 115 hp and you take 5 a tick at lv 1

thats not 20% a tick thats approx 20% a second

and shaped glass wont change this

[viral sorrel]

yeah but the damage you take increases the longer youre in sojourn

[trim narwhal]

it doesnt

[viral sorrel]

guy in vid was in it for like 3 secs

[trim narwhal]

you just get less healing over the course of 10 seconds

[viral sorrel]

ohhh wait

[trim narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565729054620385280/1280305764770250772/2024-09-01_18-22-51_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66effce9&is=66eeab69&hm=ed54abee16cca32e29b37a835e5ba0aa3b130657e26b00360fcc6cd210500826&

[viral sorrel]

youre right abt that

[trim narwhal]

near minute long shift, the dmg is not increasing

[viral sorrel]

but seekers sojourn does dmg based off her base dmg

not health

thats why leveling up increased the amount of dmg taken

[trim narwhal]

stuff like tonic or glass that amp your damage stat wont increase your sojourn selfdmg

[viral sorrel]

maybe shaped glass would be bad then shit

[trim narwhal]

i dont have aclip on hand but ill make one right now

[viral sorrel]

could you also check what 3 shaped glass + sojourn looks like

it def seems like sojourn ends at 10% hp

maybe 15%?

it might be that 12.5%

cause i have 2 glass making my hp 25% that of base

and sojourn ends when my healthbar is at half

nvm its a little over half hp so prob 15%

[trim narwhal]

3 glass = instakicked
2 glass, u can see u still take 5 dmg ticks as usual

[viral sorrel]

thats really whack

oh well

[trim narwhal]

i would say avoid too much glass

a bit of glass with repulsion razorwire band etc build should be fine though

[viral sorrel]

i was thinking of a build to lower your max hp with glass to reduce dmg taken from sojourn to make it where you only need a few raps to stay in it for a long while

but if thats not how sojourn works that sucks

[trim narwhal]

only thing that impacts sojourn selfdmg is your own level

[trim narwhal]

and well stuff like plates, buckler, etc

[viral sorrel]

current items

so still decent build just not what i was expecting

[trim narwhal]

6 plates will be 1 dmg ticks til like lv 20

[viral sorrel]

yeah

i got lucky w a printer stage 1

and a scrapper

[trim narwhal]

glass is like, well your "time limit" to deal with the enemies is halved with sojourn

[analog brook]

Oh my god is it the issue again with the dlc where it's meant to be a % of your max hp and yet again instead of that it's actually % of your level 1 base hp, same thing happening with tranq and chronic expansion etc

[trim narwhal]

but your dps with wire, the ending blast, etc, is also doubled, so

just dont take tooo many

[viral sorrel]

yeah and with rap i only need very little healing to stay in it practically forever

[trim narwhal]

well no it scales with levels, its not lv 1 base hp

[viral sorrel]

not to mention soul spiral barrier

[viral sorrel]

yeah 2 is the limit

[trim narwhal]

there is one other benefit of glass

barrier degeneration scalesw ith max hp

[viral sorrel]

yeah ive noticed

[trim narwhal]

but your alt m2 barrier gain and like topaz brooch, thats all flat barrier

so your barrier gained last longer with glass

[viral sorrel]

very very good

[trim narwhal]

and then final consideration is e8, u already lose max hp at base hp

[analog brook]

Oh ok that's, weird, it scales with levels but not hp. Wasn't the description of sojourn 20% of your hp per second (not like dlc descriptions have been accurate whatsoever anyway)

[trim narwhal]

if u have glass or took a bunch of curse, u need more plates to compensate

[trim narwhal]

20% a second is accurateish

if u have no items

[analog brook]

Why wouldn't they just make it an actual 20% of max hp...that sounds way easier then the shenanigans they did...

[trim narwhal]

each tick is more or less around 4% hp per, and u more or less eat 5 ticks a second

itll have a bit of strange balancing in any implementation

currently its already a little weird with plate stack invuln

if it was 20% of max a second then would you just actively avoid picking up hp?

its already a little strange with alt m2 barrier interaction

[analog brook]

Hmm true

[quasi crystal]

At least it disables healing after a period of time

[tropic trail]

Was it ever explained how Magic in ROR2 works? Like a source or an origin.
I've noticed ( Before the most recent DLC ). None of the survivors use Magic or have Magical Powers, but a vast majority of items collected throughout the game are somewhat Magical. Just curious if there was ever an explanation for this

Every Survivors abilities can be summed up with "Future Tech" but a lot of the items , especially rarer items, are magical.

Happiest Mask creates Spirits
The Frost Relic can summon a blizzard out of thin air
N'kuhana's Opinion can create magic death orbs from over-healing

[signal fulcrum]

Not for most magical items

Some do have explanations in their item log but a lot of it is just for a fun game. The only really explained magical elements I can think of are Soul which comes from an "adjacent reality" that was utilized by the brothers along with design, blood, and mass

[tropic trail]

Yeah Soul was what came to mind when I thought of Magic, a majority of the magic items are sort of Relic adjacent which made me assume Providence was makin wacky objects in their spare time

[haughty tapir]

is there a mod or any way to fix multiplayer just disconnecting players for no gosh dang reason

im fucking tired of this

how is this still not fixed????

[tropic trail]

But yeah the concept of " This works because it's fun for the game " probably took priority of " We've gotta explain this in the story ", plus since a lot of the magic items ARE relics, it's fair to assume there is no lore explanation cause the items are too old to know how they were made or how to recreate them so it's a pretty fitting non-explanation

[earnest ember]

Is Splitscreen available on PC without the mod now or is that just Console and if so how do you access it?

[weak bluff]

If you leave the colossus path via bazaar, can you return to it via lunar seer?

[hoary sedge]

yes but you have to get lucky with the seer

and the seers can't get prime meridian iirc

[mellow lotus]

opinions on hemlith hactery?

[mellow lotus]

in comparison to sky meadows

[signal fulcrum]

I like it, it makes good use of verticality. Reminds me a bit of ||Lost Izalith|| from Dark Souls, and I think it adds some welcome variety to the fifth stage

[quasi crystal]

I prefer it in almost every way

Better boss pool, cooler visuals, better music imo, just all around much cooler

[merry forum]

erm... i just randomly got soft locked in the middle of eviscerate animation, started floating away and the game is unresponsive. is there anything i can do or is my run over?

[signal fulcrum]

Yane No Mori and Tlalocan are so peak

[fast lantern]

should i take recycler, seed of life or sawmerang? (im using commando with boomerangs btw)

[hoary sedge]

i would usually say recycler but at that point I don't think it matters that much

[fast lantern]

just bc sawmerang doubles my bleed basically-

[hoary sedge]

if anything maybe just sawmerang

yeah that

[fast lantern]

kk

[silk bloom]

can treeborn colony appear as a normal stage 3 in a run?

[vestal pewter]

No

Green portal only

[vestal pewter]

Does attack speed affect mults nail gun I can't tell

Ok it affects all his other attacks

[mellow lotus]

uhhh is aurelionite supposed to murk you at the end of false son?

[full lily]

i've had it before

having it rn actually

[vestal pewter]

Yeah

[mellow lotus]

lore reason?

[vestal pewter]

He just do that

[mellow lotus]

is he stupid?

[vestal pewter]

Yes

[quasi crystal]

Aure is false sons mother

[slim spoke]

"living power source" you say

[livid wedge]

Aurellionite is she and she is False Son's creator/mother. I doubt she would've sided with the player in that fight

[vestal pewter]

You getting mad over misgendering a character in a game that looks like a mf rock

[uncut wadi]

Don't see anger, just seeing correction really

[deep onyx]

“mad” brother you just corrected where is the anger

[uncut wadi]

Credit where credit is due you'd never get that aure is a she

Unless you read lore related to it or sth

Hell even disputed called aure a he in the yellows ranking video

[deep onyx]

i didnt know loader was a girl until i beat monsoon w/her either

[eternal storm]

is it just me or is verdant falls just nonexistant now

[nova breach]

I see verdant falls more on a loop than as a 1st stage for the run tbh

[pure bison]

is there a specific spot the boss spawns when u activate the teleporter?

[jaunty herald]

Is it a whiny overreaction to say twisted kind of ruined the game

Because like what the actual hell

[ornate gust]

Gearbox mentioned theyre workin on em so thats the silver lining

Everyone everwhere has mentioned how much they hate those elites

[ornate gust]

Not particularly, but they can sometimes spawn on a cliff above the tp if theres no space on the ground

This happens a lot in verdant falls

[pure bison]

ah ok, i just unlocked the engineer and was wondering if there was a certain spot i can stack my mines on before i spawn the boss

[ornate gust]

Fair

Yeah its just a guessing game

[pure bison]

welp thanks for the info

[ornate gust]

No probs

[livid wedge]

I wasn't mad, just letting you know for future referencing

[shut thunder]

Would yall say Visions of Heresy is good on engi?

[quasi crystal]

It's ok but it hurts the turrets

Like, honestly I prefer the turrets having their guns/lasers to visions, unless I have drone parts then it doesn't matter

[shut thunder]

ah i see

damn

[frank sluice]

They're actually mathematically better

however they scale with CD, not attack speed, and CDR is significantly harder to come by than AS

at a certain point normal attack does outscale with enough AS

[shut thunder]

hmm i see

[frank sluice]

I usually don't take visions for a long run

[quasi crystal]

Well the turrets like wasting their shots on lesser wisps and other targets that don't need procs

[frank sluice]

but if I'm gunning straight for Mithrix first loop I'm taking visions

you can also take visions on a long run and hope for a cleansing pool down the line

it's the strat for most lunar items

[shut thunder]

im just trying to A: Get the False Son, and B: Beat the game on monsoon

[frank sluice]

both of those could be a short run if you luck out on a Newt Dream to Gilded Coast before stage 4

[shut thunder]

got it on stage 1

already got the seed

[frank sluice]

then you're set, grab visions

[shut thunder]

now on stage 2

[frank sluice]

visions are just mathematically better for bossing

[shut thunder]

what i got so far

[frank sluice]

oof i wouldn't recommend 2 visions

they up the charges but double the CD time

in effect it's basically same DPS but it also lengthens the downtime so I don't like more than 1 visions

[shut thunder]

damn i thought higher stacks of items was always better

[frank sluice]

lunar items

higher stacks means more good but also more bad

[shut thunder]

damn

[livid wedge]

Except for transcendance and gesture of the drowned

[shut thunder]

does beating the false son on monsoon count for both?

[frank sluice]

yes!

of course also if you have the seed

that would satisfy requirements for the FS skin, FS, and the mastery skin, all at once

[shut thunder]

i died 😦

[frank sluice]

protip, it's easier on a loop XD

[shut thunder]

stage 3 boss fight and none of my stuff wanted to target the two dunestriders

[frank sluice]

I'm guessing the Dunestriders hid behind walls

[shut thunder]

nope

by all accounts they shouldve been targeted

but instead my turrets wanted to fight wisps

[frank sluice]

rip XD

[shut thunder]

do you use the gauss or laser turrets?

[frank sluice]

I stick to stationary turrets

laser turrets is kind of a whole different meta

[shut thunder]

i see i see

whelp time to try again

are drones and turrets worth getting or are they a waste of money

[frank sluice]

due to the mere existence of Spare Drone Parts, they're always worth getting

especially on Captain and Engineer

for Engineer because SDP also work on his own turrets

if anything they're also good distractions so :p

I generally just farm a stage until I've gotten everything on it, so I always take everything

turrets are meh, I don't like them

[shut thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-down-notes-courage-courage-the-cowardly-dog-taking-a-note-jotting-it-down-gif-6284172808372195326

gotta take notes from the master

is there a way to dodge the Stone Titan's laser?

[frank sluice]

aside from line of sight, weaving around right underneath its feet is also a way

a significantly harder way but also a way, lol

the lasers don't turn fast enough if you're doing rounds under its feet

mostly just locate cover and let your turrets work

be ready to replace turrets as necessary if you don't have bungus

and spam mines/harpoons

your mines and harpoons do short work of most early bosses, abuse them

[quasi crystal]

I've had laser turrets circle bosses idk how to consistently get them to do it but it's awesome when I pull it off

[storm sand]

Please tell me what kind of passive skill does the false son have? Something to do with HP, I just can’t figure out what it does from the description

[frank sluice]

it's to do with his M2 and Special

Growth is a trait from his M2 and Special, that

the more bonus HP you get, the more M2 stacks you have

for base Special, it extends the duration

for alt Special, it gives more stacks

his M2 is the main thing about his Passive

the more M2 charges you currently have, the more attack speed and armor you get

the more M2 charges you used, the more movespeed and regen you get

it sounds complicated but in practice it's pretty simple

stack up HP items, Bison Steak and Infusion is now suddenly S tier

Stone Flux Pauldron is great but it's only really worth getting one, unless you're really deep into the run and have too much move speed

when playing, the flow is simple

use all M2 charges to move fast and heal

keep M2 charges to attack fast and have armor (basically never really lol)

the key interaction here is that you get the bonus stats for every M2 charge you get

so the more HP you have, the more M2 charge you have, the faster you attack (or move, if you use all your M2)

[storm sand]

Thank you

[chrome mist]

can you do false son on eclipse

[frank sluice]

I don't see why not? The only thing Eclipse locks out is Voidling and Rebirth

[candid wigeon]

what's a chance doll?

[left trellis]

a green item that improves items you get from chance shrines
https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Chance_Doll

[candid wigeon]

alright, thanks

[ornate gust]

And obliteration

[candid wigeon]

uhhhh, what would happen if i obliterate myself? I just got to the portal

[jaunty zinc]

ends the run

[rapid current]

what void fiends attack block tihs

[jaunty zinc]

shift

[rapid current]

what?

i am console

mobility?

[jaunty zinc]

utility

[rapid current]

both or just the normal version?

[jaunty zinc]

both but the corrupted version has less iframes

also I'm like 99% sure veaver death attacks ignore invuln but testing it is probably important so

[ornate gust]

Yeah it ignores any invuln

Just poof

Deaded

[rapid current]

does his attack pull you?

[ornate gust]

The black hole?

Nah

[rapid current]

ye

[ornate gust]

U can just walk out of it

[jaunty zinc]

just walk away from ot yea

[ornate gust]

Careful with the void jailer cuz his balck hole follows u

[jaunty zinc]

jailers make it harder because they move in a chosen direction but beyond that just run away

[ornate gust]

And the devastator shoots out tiny black holes

[jaunty zinc]

do those black holes actually kill you I've never been hit by them

[ornate gust]

Once they explode in a big one it explodes into multiple small ones which do i believe

[jaunty zinc]

that's really funny

[ornate gust]

Yep lmao

[rapid current]

i lost a run because i killed 20 of them at the same time

and i jumped into them

[ornate gust]

I love the noise of them

Its very cool, albeit terrifying when youre flustered

[rapid current]

does clover affect sacrifice

[ornate gust]

Nope

[rapid current]

can bettles spawn with family on second stage?

[brazen knoll]

What all counts as ignition effects

[hearty whale]

chat is benthic the play?

[waxen hinge]

Hi

Errr

[livid wedge]

Gasoline, molotov, artificers main primary, and attacks while you have the blazing elite equipment

[waxen hinge]

I m looking for advice

I can’t get the god speed

Finish stage 1 in 5 minutes

Are there any tricks ?

[livid wedge]

5 minutes per stage is not a good strategt

[waxen hinge]

It’s to unlock the load out

It’s only once to get the loadout

[livid wedge]

Ah

[waxen hinge]

Most of the runs, I don’t find the teleporter

Yeah I suck I know

I go… myself

Tp needs 90 seconds

[signal fulcrum]

Look for the little orange particles surrounding the teleporter (They are blue on the fifth stage), the teleporter also emits an electronic beeping sound you can use to locate it

[waxen hinge]

Ooooj thanks a lot

I m such a …

[ornate gust]

Theres are also some accessibility settings which help to find the tp better

[waxen hinge]

And when I get in time In too Weak for the boss 😆

[ornate gust]

I believe theres one which keeps the tp pinged once u find it

[waxen hinge]

I need a mod that put a huge pointer on it 😆

[ornate gust]

Im sure there are mods which help out aswell

[haughty tapir]

id say revisit it when your more used to exploring stages, and finding tp and stuff

it will be eaiser than

[waxen hinge]

Looked liked the easiest loadout to get…

Should i worry unlocking loadouts?

Else

[ornate gust]

Do u mean unlocking items and stuff?

Most of em will be unlocked naturally

[waxen hinge]

New character

And loadouts

Else

[haughty tapir]

do you not know what loadouts are…

[waxen hinge]

Edit the save…

[haughty tapir]

no

[ornate gust]

Skills yeah?

[haughty tapir]

we only do that for ethereal nothing else

lmao

just do it later when you git gud

[eternal storm]

luckily i had an artifact of glass prismatic trial

[ornate gust]

Even certain loadouts some will be unlocked naturally, and if u cant unlock the skill immediately then you can wait til youre better at the game and attempt it later

[haughty tapir]

definitely should go for load outs, id heavily recommend trying to unlock everything

but do it when your getting better at the game

[eternal storm]

also do overloading worms only spawn on specific stages or can they just spawn anywhere

[haughty tapir]

its just difficulty based essentially

[eternal storm]

oh ok

[ornate gust]

Usually on abyssal or sky meadows

But they can spawn elsewhere too i believe

[eternal storm]

yea i only saw one on sky meadows once and it absolutely destroyed my team

[ornate gust]

Helminths hatchery probably can spawn em too

[haughty tapir]

its more of a just, the director needs credits thing

[ornate gust]

The earliest ive seen it spawn is stage 4 abyssal with a few mountain shrines

[haughty tapir]

ik mosr 4rth stages can, i have seen it on sirens call

[haughty tapir]

yeye me too. again its difficultly based

[ornate gust]

Yep

After looping you'll see em often

[haughty tapir]

mhm

[ornate gust]

Even as regular enemies

[haughty tapir]

mostly you see scavengers tho

[ornate gust]

Them aswell

Fat bois

[haughty tapir]

you mean living amount of loot you get on stage 1?

[ornate gust]

Lol yes

[flint lark]

theres a setting you can enable that makes the orange teleporter particles really big and visible from far away

so you can locate it almost immediately especially if it's a more open map

it should be on the first page under umbrella settings

[mighty current]

The shield on the loader, is based on the attack or the max life??

[ornate gust]

Its 5% of her current max health, including any shields

Its what's stated in the wiki

[raven gulch]

can crowdfunder proc items?

[ornate gust]

Yep

[raven gulch]

alright its worth it!

thank you :D

[ornate gust]

No probs

Its usually used with character who cant proc items very well

Like loader

It can give her the ability use ukes and atgs and whatnot better

[raven gulch]

NEVERMIND I ALMOST GOT KILLED I KEEP FORGETTING JUST HOW POWERFUL THE PRIME MERIDIAN ENEMIES ARE

[ornate gust]

Lmaooo

Yep

[raven gulch]

got like 400 bucks going into false son

[ornate gust]

Hell yeah

[raven gulch]

damn that beam hurts...

[ornate gust]

Indeed

[tiny vale]

anyone know what this thingy is

[daring cloak]

Old design of the xi construct

[tiny vale]

oh ok

[daring cloak]

It is not supposed to be able to spawn

[tiny vale]

oh. well then why did it for us

[daring cloak]

This bug will be fixed with the next update

[tiny vale]

oh ok

[winter crow]

could anybody Help me with finding out whatever this weird shaped bottle is? , I’ve went through the wiki and can’t find any item that matches it.

[daring cloak]

Its cautious slug

[brazen knoll]

I’ll be on in a couple hours if you still need help

[waxen hinge]

Thanks

[vast marlin]

do prayer beads on heretic give you negative regen?

[brazen sluice]

why is loader's ENTIRE kit basically mute now? it feels like im playing without sound effects with her

its the most unsatisfying experience playing as her now 😦

[brazen sluice]

oh wow, i guess when you rotate like that, it does kind of look like a bottle lol. its cautious slug btw

[analog brook]

[tacit summit]

wait dio stacks?

[mellow lotus]

why cant i use the shrine of combat? if i dont get any more items im gonna starve

[analog brook]

Yes it gives extra revives

[tacit summit]

i thiught all of dios stacks would consume when you died

[brazen sluice]

this is such a terrible experience 😦

fix loader's SFX

[frosty steeple]

how important are crits on loader? i found a printer but my items are pretty good right now so i'm not sure if it's worth it

oh yeah i can also take vrit

[onyx oxide]

I just found out that the game has multiple endings... how do I get these endings

[frosty steeple]

1. beat mithrix, escape the moon
2. obliterate at the obelisk after looping and going through the celestial portal, or by beating voidling
3. beat false son and unlock rebirth

[unique hollow]

fastest way to do Chefs challange bbq bison recipe??

[quasi crystal]

Reset until you get scattered abode stage 1 and bbq the bisons

Short of that bisons are really common in void fields from my experience

[tacit summit]

uhh any advice

this is arti

flamethrower nanobomb

[daring cloak]

Shattering justice

Not even a question

Unless you got a good amount of equipment spam going then maybe bottled chaos

[tacit summit]

no its like 2nd stage

[daring cloak]

Shattering justice it is then

Its the most reliably good thing of the three

[tacit summit]

also a question if i have shaped glass and use the void cradle do i die

[daring cloak]

No

The cradles account for curse (the missing max hp)

[tacit summit]

okok

would be silly

[stuck flare]

Y'all what are some good green/red items for Huntress?

Anything crit related perhaps?

[fast lantern]

anyone know why M99 doesnt show that its piercing when it actually is?

[fast lantern]

just basically the normal good greens, just test them out as you play and learn for yourself what you like using

[signal fulcrum]

Harvester's Scythe and Predatory Instincts are incredibly good yeah, especially on her alt primary

[tacit summit]

can mithrix use genesis loop?

[signal fulcrum]

yes and its very dangerous

[tacit summit]

okay better scarp it then

[quasi crystal]

Rose buckler too

[daring cloak]

I mean he cant exactly sprint in p4

[worldly pebble]

Having issues where it won't save eclipse runs are there any fixes ? I'm on ps4

[quasi crystal]

Wha

I thought we were talking about

[daring cloak]

Ah I only read the past few messages and missed the huntress convo happening at the same time

[stuck flare]

Good to know, cuz I've been using her alt primary for God knows how long

[quasi crystal]

Scythe, pred, rose buckler, chrono, bandolier harpoon are all especially good on her. Then the general good stuff that's good on every survivor like bands, atg, ukelele, wisp, feather etc are good too

Huntress is like the only survivor I like hunters harpoon on

[signal fulcrum]

Yea the alt primary is slightly worse than the normal one unless you get some crit chance then it becomes better

[quasi crystal]

Is the eclipse artifact mod bugged? It seems like one of them was triggering Honor

[brazen knoll]

Dms

[waxen hinge]

What is dms ?

[daring cloak]

Direct messages

Private conversations basically

[brazen knoll]

Would you like to do the under 5 minute run?

[tiny harness]

Does Mithrix drop his logbook the same way Voidling and False Son does? I don't remember getting any logbook from him but i have it anyway

[tiny harness]

Also, when i check it, it says i killed him 0 times lmao

[chrome mist]

does stackinng rusted keey do anything

[livid wedge]

Yes, you'll get a lock box each stage until you use them all up

[rancid jewel]

did they make rainstorm easier?

[livid wedge]

No, if anything it's probably more difficult due to elites spawning more often

[valid kiln]

what's the best loadout for rex?

[primal prism]

https://medal.tv/games/ror-2/clips/iJA4zj8dPKZ5utAuE/d1337NXgiO1N?invite=cr-MSxTbDMsNjIyOTQxMiw
can someone explain what happened to me, i got locked into place and couldnt move when this happened and the only way i got out of my ability was cuz i crashed into a wall

happened multiple times during the fight

[trim narwhal]

deserved for using fist below e8

wait, it looked like the selfdmg ticks went crazy fast as well when this happened?

[primal prism]

yeah also doesnt really show in the clip but it earraped the shit out of me when it happened

[trim narwhal]

is it coincidence?

it looked like gilded procced just as it went crazy

actually, wheres all the healing coming from

[primal prism]

i think it was only happening when the gilded bubble was on

i think leeching seed and razorwire

[trim narwhal]

ohh right seed

hm, ill test gilded aspect

[primal prism]

yeah it was my first run ever getting it, im just confused on why i got locked into place and couldnt move

like turn or end the ability

[trim narwhal]

its gilded yea

[primal prism]

dang so its just a bug with gilded aspect ?

[trim narwhal]

really weird that its somehow doing this but probably yea

[primal prism]

yeah super weird, whatever ill put it in the bug report channel

[grave zodiac]

wtf is this luck bro

[primal prism]

LMAO

[brazen sluice]

money printer go brrrrr

[grave zodiac]

theres another one behind me also i just realised

6 of them 💀

[brazen sluice]

sooooooo TIL: on loader, if you use your grapple and dont hit anything and therefore can instantly use it again, each time you do this is charges luminous shot. then simply punch the air with your basic and then the luminous shot will be transferred to your next ability that hits something, which you could use with a thrust punch for giga damage

wtf this is mega busted

[trim narwhal]

actually, you can hit stuff with alt m2 if its just out of range

youll do dmg but not actually grapple onto them and the cooldown is reset

[brazen sluice]

that too

either way this is probably one of the most abusable item in the dlc in terms of things the devs most likely didnt intend or think of

[low lake]

SO WHY DO WE HAVE A MAX LVL? I get the monsters but why-

I had a good run and it's ruined to geting softlocked in gilded coast cause of longstanding

[brazen sluice]

the fact alone that luminous shot can transfer its benefit to other abilities just by using your LMB on nothing is so abusable

[brazen sluice]

imo longstanding should remove the lvl cap

[low lake]

Me and my friend wanted to get high lvl and so we both got longstanding BUT NOW

we're trapped in gilded coast

[brazen sluice]

yup

been a known issue since day 1

[trim narwhal]

i think poor stacking and 0 coeff make it unable to be truly "abused"

mechanically yea but the actual output wont be amazing i think

strongest item abuse in dlc ive seen is chronic expansion + fmp + enough cdr or soulbound

[low lake]

Didn't know we COULD get softlocked

that shouldn't be a thing

[trim narwhal]

this is why i recommend running modded even if u want vanilla exp

debugtoolkit can get u outta bs like that

[gleaming badge]

do i have to go to the ship after beating mithrix on monsoon to get the skin unlocked or can i go to the portal

[brazen sluice]

too

[brazen sluice]

tell that to everyone who got softlocked when mithrix took their warped echo on initial release

[brazen sluice]

like voidling portal?

[gleaming badge]

yeah

[brazen sluice]

not sure what happens if you die to voidling, but should work if you win

also not sure why you would want to fight voidling

[gleaming badge]

to get voidfiend

[brazen sluice]

ah. i just did simulacrum for that

[gleaming badge]

I want to try and do it through the voidling fight

[brazen sluice]

my first voidling victory was with double saw mult. just sat on his face and grinded his eye (dont google that)

[serene vector]

without a hopoo or a movement char, is reaching void fields without breaking ur legs possible in eclipse runs?

cuz fall dmg is lethal

[primal prism]

safer spaces

or a volcanic egg, wings, or eccentric vase

[brazen sluice]

[trim narwhal]

u can drop ring by ring maybe ? i kinda want to test that

there might be footholds along the wall too like how the moon pillar has places to stand on

i assume u mean itemless no dmg fall on like engi etc

[brazen sluice]

tons of ways to cancel vertical momentum and/or fall damage

[serene vector]

yeah cause i think sometimes the difficulty curve for engi definitely got higher with all the new elites + increased elite rates

[mystic wasp]

I'm not sure if this is a skill issue on my end or not but I've had some Eclipse CHEF runs where I had Polyutes, needletick's and Atg's however I've been hitting enemies non stop with Cleavers but the effects are barely kicking in. I can get them to happen when I Sear but the damage is pretty pitiful. It seems to just be his Knife so what gives?

[trim narwhal]

well, knives have 0.5 coefficient and sear has 0.6 coeff

[livid wedge]

The knives have a 0.5 proc coef

[trim narwhal]

polylutes and atgs scale off the damage dealt

meaning sear doing pitiful dmg at base = the procs also do pitiful dmg

and then the coeffs will cut their chance to proc to little too so

[mystic wasp]

.5? That seems pretty bad.

[trim narwhal]

you can think of chef knives as similar dps to mult rebar... its quite close itemless

[mystic wasp]

I could see that for something like Mul-t nailgun

[trim narwhal]

except it 1. has limited range 2. needs to hit both throw and return 3. has 0.5 coeff instead of 1.0

and its not like mult rebar is the star weapon of mult's kit, its just a sidearm, unless u run double rebar retool

as for sear, sear has issues

for one, u cant aim it if ur sprinting or shifting, which makes u lean forward and the sear goes straight into the ground

[mystic wasp]

Yea, i hate when that happens. Sometimes I have to stand still just so I can aim sear upwards

[trim narwhal]

for another, it does less dmg the more attack speed you have

lol https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565729054620385280/1281041789255417907/2024-09-04_19-58-40_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66f201a3&is=66f0b023&hm=4bd57db850799bff8ce8f0c77cd80604908ccce9229f4c8ca1532a0d3442b6b6&

so its not a you thing, chef m1 and m2 are just kinda abysmal

[mystic wasp]

I... Have a dreadful feeling that I'm gonna be in hell for this Eclipse climb. Atleast REX functions

Thank you for the info

[trim narwhal]

chef eclipse is probably hardest overall

i havent tried them much yet, but even if e8 rex is gimped

i think e1-7 chef will be worse than e1-7 rex

u could also wait

gbox did talk about chef buffs and fixes and etc

seeker and son eclipse climbs are real easy tho

[mystic wasp]

Soujorn and Laser gaming

[brazen sluice]

yet rex is the most difficult character to play in eclipse

[trim narwhal]

chef is probably worse overall, rex is only truly gutted on e8

[brazen sluice]

pitiful move speed, freakishly huge hitbox, golems and clay templars almost never miss against you, E5+ gimps all your healing, E8 gimps your entire kit

[trim narwhal]

i havent played rex in elite spam eclipse yet though

[brazen sluice]

he has his benefits tho. pushing enemies off cliffs never gets old, neither does slamming wisps against the wall, shoving pests to the world border, and one shotting alloy worship unit, and his zone control is realy helpful with dealing with the increased move speed from E4 (?)

[trim narwhal]

maybe chef feels worse partially due to that

e4 isnt bad for rex yea

faster move speed enemies also mean they group up faster when u move in a circle, means you get to use aoe more

[brazen sluice]

chef has some pretty abusable traits tho, especially if you use his alt spec

[brazen sluice]

yea but it makes lemurians a pain in the ass to hit if they arent in the circle

[trim narwhal]

tbh maybe seeker/son are even stronger than i thought

if my eclipse climbs felt great right now during elite spam

regular eclipse would be crushed or what

[brazen sluice]

i completely disagree with a lot of what woolie says about chef. his default spec is straight up trash. his alt spec is actually kinda cracked if you abuseuse it correctly

[brazen sluice]

son is busted as hell, no questions asked

[trim narwhal]

i did see woolies vid

strange they focused on boosted m2 or shift or whatever but no mention of boosted m1 potential

[brazen sluice]

yea boosted m1 is cracked if you get right up close to a large enemy

[trim narwhal]

i dont play chef much but the raw numbers on melee boosted m1 is good

it isnt like super cracked op, but its good

[brazen sluice]

and the 2sec animation on alt spec is actually a benefit, as things dont get boosted till the animation is done, yet their cooldowns are insta-refreshed. i often do alt spec -> roll -> boosted m1

[trim narwhal]

15s cd, 10000% if u hit all cleavers, 0.5 coeff, need to melee. in comparison to actual insanely cracked ability like railgunner special its not like standing out, but its still good ability

i dont think glaze is that bad either though. its just that m1 m2 are super trash, so there is heavy lifting needed from shift/special

[brazen sluice]

its also nice for map traversal. roll -> spec -> roll

just remember to m1 while rolling

[trim narwhal]

if the other abilities did some real damage, the weaken on glaze would be stronger for instance

[south cedar]

is the chain gun from droneman an ability?

or like a cd

[full apex]

for droneman specifically or for drone parts in general

[brazen sluice]

also another thing i like to abuse: m1 applies the roll stack AND m1 stack while rolling. i use this all the time to get healing from wisps

[trim narwhal]

wait really? thats kinda cool

[full apex]

i dont know what droneman has by base if he has anything like normal drones, but the chaingun that all drones get is just something that happens passively every few seconds.