gd1-nullified

[white herald]

So if you get hit you’re done

[earnest prairie]

out of heretic items hooks is the broken one
also heretic items i doubt even count for this
even still out of them all the one that is almost always a no-brainer is only hooks
rest is situational

[outer jackal]

Just about anything is better than corpsebloom.

[zenith obsidian]

malachite mithrix

[pure lava]

source???

[white herald]

Are they adding another difficulty with the DLC??

[dire basin]

bloom will literally kill you

[rotund pasture]

healing when its bad

[cerulean zodiac]

Heal +100% (+100% per stack) more. All healing is applied over time. Can heal for a maximum of 10% (-50% per stack) of your health per second.

[outer jackal]

Corpsebloom has no advantage

[white herald]

Nah yea I’m just wondering

[earnest prairie]

if you are bad
but then you will die on your own anyways

[cerulean zodiac]

so it heals you for less with more stacks?

[white herald]

I feel like that’d be neat

[pure lava]

bro its literally double healing

[white herald]

Typhoon but Israel

[dire basin]

without bloom you can full heal in one second

with bloom you can't.

[earnest prairie]

at a time yes
stacking bloom is a bad idea

[modest ice]

When u have a god run so good you can stand still and enemies die anyway

[pure lava]

you can with corpsebloom, youre just bad at the game

[cerulean zodiac]

picking it up is even worse

[rotund pasture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867472367454257182/940543028769226762/kXRpAooJ.gif

[outer jackal]

But... more healing 😢

[earnest prairie]

fitting name

[pure lava]

stacking bloom is a GREAT idea

[soft cove]

man, i just wanna sleep so I can skip time forward to march 1 like a literal irl time skip.

[earnest prairie]

stacking bloom is a great idea if you have a rejuv rack printer

[autumn goblet]

Do sacrifice drops get more common overtime

[dire basin]

truuuu

[zenith obsidian]

set multitudes to 20

[pure lava]

real shit, when are we gonna get the backrooms in ror2?

[outer jackal]

Corpsebloom is named after thing you become 20 seconds after picking one up

[cerulean zodiac]

at this point you can just be a normal person and pick up a medkit

[simple sun]

Harder enemies have higher drop rates but the actual drop rates don't change

[white herald]

What if Mithrix was spelt like mithrax, that would be funny I think.

[earnest prairie]

okay command user

[cerulean zodiac]

as if

[earnest prairie]

also bloom + medkit = crack cocainer

[pure lava]

corpsebloom is fucking CRACKED

[zenith obsidian]

imagine if you could make swarm spawn 10X stuff

[cerulean zodiac]

wrong opinion + L + ratio

[zenith obsidian]

have the doppelgangers spawn as captain

[outer jackal]

20 medkits: full heal instant
With corpsebloom: slow ass heal, may as well not bother taking it

[white herald]

What if corpse husband played ror2 and he always picked up corpse bloom that would be funny I think

[zenith obsidian]

free win

[earnest prairie]

bloom literally makes it so that you need less healing items to be invincible earlygame
because earlygame you have less healing items in general so you are most likely not passing the 10%hp/sec threshold anyways

[pure lava]

what if you replaced the wa in swarm with pe

[white herald]

Sper

[simple sun]

Woolie argument

[earnest plaza]

bloom can be good and bad

[zenith obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-surprise-bathroom-ogre-gif-11492547

[earnest prairie]

WDYM SLOW ASS HEAL IT LITERALLY DOES NOT EXCEED 10%/SEC

[pure lava]

bloom literally has no downside

[signal cipher]

Is that the groove of 87

[white herald]

Yeah, that would be funny.

[modest ice]

Y

[white herald]

But true

[pure lava]

its profit???????????

[outer jackal]

10 seconds to full heal opposed to instant

[simple sun]

Clearly he starts the game on stage 11

[earnest plaza]

hear me out
bloom is situational

[rotund pasture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867472367454257182/940543028769226762/kXRpAooJ.gif

[pure lava]

corpsebloom = 2x return on investment, its simple economics dumbass

[cerulean zodiac]

corpsebloom users when they die - must have been a skill issue

[earnest prairie]

it is not slower earlygame
because earlygame you don't have that many healing items unless you are a command player
so pre-loop its literally just a free rejuvenation rack

i mean all deaths are skill issue so like
cope

[pure lava]

i completed E8 as (s)ex with corpsebloom

[simple sun]

Why is it that so often there's arguments where both sides are just so incredibly ignorant to the other side

[cerulean zodiac]

so its a crutch

[signal cipher]

Btw corpsebloom healing ticks once every like 0.2 seconds

[outer jackal]

Its fine earlygame, but without a reliable way to remove lunars, you shouldn't take it

[zenith obsidian]

i dont really take healing items when using command

[simple sun]

Corpsebloom is great until stage 8

[white herald]

You just described the two political parties, congrats.

[simple sun]

don't take it if you plan on Looping further

congrats that's the whole argument now please end this

[outer jackal]

Stage 8 is way too late

[white herald]

What lmao

[pure lava]

yo is this the place where people talk about politics now as well????

[cerulean zodiac]

imagine obliterating on monsoon. cringe

[rotund pasture]

wdym soon
its only gonna cripple you earlygame(preloop) on rex

[white herald]

No

[outer jackal]

Jokes on you I don't even have command

[white herald]

Fuck I mentioned politics it’s all over

[earnest prairie]

earlygame != stage 1
earlygame = pre-loop
i.e. 6mm
you have plenty chances to get bloom in that timeframe

[simple sun]

My subjective opinion is that you are objectively wrong

[outer jackal]

Imagine taking 10 seconds to fully heal when your items can get you to 100% in 2 anyway

[earnest plaza]

man woolie can fr say his opinion on something and everyone who watches him becomes a hive mind
cant just say its situational

[earnest prairie]

i just said what earlygame means

[pure lava]

i stand by my point, corpsebloom is 2x return on investment, its simple business, just stop being bad at the game (and life)

[zenith obsidian]

so every player that unlocked the mastery skins before mithrix was a thing is cringe ?

[signal cipher]

And loop until you die

[simple sun]

Transcendence is such a horrible item

[cerulean zodiac]

probably

[rotund pasture]

yeah earlygame is 1-5 stages plus commencement

[simple sun]

I can't stop being hit for 7 seconds it literally is only a downside

it's the worst lunar item by far

[white herald]

Okay that ain’t woolie’s fault doe, dudes funny it’s just the people that watch him think he’s literally the ceo of risk of rain.

I watch him too, I just find him entertaining

[pure lava]

based

[native bear]

delicate watch is such a horrible item

[zenith obsidian]

with many stacks is fun

[cerulean zodiac]

at that point you can just pick up transcendence

[rotund pasture]

zimbel unironically have you tried bloom yourself

[earnest prairie]

ok fine
arguing on terms is pointless
so i'll put it like that
corpsebloom is a free rejuvenation rack with no downside until stage 8
happy?

[native bear]

i can't stop falling below 25% health it is literally only downside

[earnest plaza]

fair enough

[simple sun]

Objective fact thank you

[signal cipher]

Why does transcendence exist

[outer jackal]

Transcendence doubles your health

[zenith obsidian]

its a good item

[cerulean zodiac]

rejuv rack doesnt make you heal 10% per second tops

[outer jackal]

And I still don't use it

[rotund pasture]

well who did you try it on

[earnest prairie]

your experience has gone to waste

[native bear]

it's the worst white item by far

[signal cipher]

No I'm not happy
It's not FREE
It costs 1 lunar coin

[simple sun]

Gd1 is the worst lunar item by far

[outer jackal]

Also with transcendence you can recycle all healing

[zenith obsidian]

true

[earnest prairie]

UNTIL STAGE 8
because this early into your run you are not likely to have enough healing to surpass the 10%/sec threshold
use your brain for at least half a nanosecond

[cerulean zodiac]

gd1 being a lunar implies it has an upside

[simple sun]

Good to know you're wrong so I can remember this in future arguments

[earnest prairie]

i cheated them in therefore its free for me

[earnest plaza]

ok but transcendece negtes all healing needs as no matter how high or how low you can fill your entire hp in 7 seconds

[outer jackal]

At stage 8 I have way more than 10% per second

[white herald]

Skill issue tbh.

[outer jackal]

At stage 5 I usually have more

[rotund pasture]

try playing someone who isnt rex

[cerulean zodiac]

i will take drugs today and worry about tomorrow, tomorrow

[outer jackal]

Cool, but I don't play rex

[native bear]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-metal-gear-rising-jetstream-sam-jetstream-heroin-gif-24618444

[rotund pasture]

then theres no way you have that much healing preloop unless insane rng (doesnt count) or command

[earnest prairie]

you are not guaranteed to have that healing
if you have 10x medkit + full crit scythe by stage 5 then yes you are not required to take bloom to heal a lot
unless you are already god bloom is an insanely good item
lol

[ebon owl]

Gup

[stable valve]

acrid is cute

[simple sun]

With luck you can absolutely exceed 10% per second but the downside is still not like all that needed

[outer jackal]

I like how corpsebloom defenders just assume people play the game wrong because the actual numbers don't support them

[pure lava]

any SEX HAVERS (problematic roles) in chat?

[simple sun]

Lol

[rotund pasture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867472367454257182/940543028769226762/kXRpAooJ.gif

[earnest prairie]

what "actual numbers" are you talking about i would LOVE to take a look at them

[simple sun]

No one is fucking defending Corpsebloom past stage 8

[native bear]

13500% 3.0

[pure lava]

i am

[stable valve]

acrid cute!!!!!!!!!!!

[earnest prairie]

oooohhh i get it now

[outer jackal]

The 10% per second healing is a pretty big one

[ebon owl]

Numbers?

[pure lava]

i am defending corpsebloom past stage 8

[signal cipher]

BUT I AM 🗿

[white herald]

Lmao pigeon a one man army

[native bear]

i don't, i'm just shitposting

[pure lava]

i will never surrender

[simple sun]

Cry about it

[cerulean zodiac]

no

[zenith obsidian]

guys stop arguing over sh... cropse bloom and talk about amogus

[pure lava]

modded ror2 be like

[simple sun]

That's from the dlc

[rotund pasture]

rex is the odd one out cuz his healing is insane
but on others youre not gonna consistently get over 10% health healing in 5 stages

[signal cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/19dollar-fortnite-card-among-us-amogus-sus-red-among-sus-gif-20549014

[earnest prairie]

i swear man
you are NOT GUARANTEED to have good healing items early into the run
in which case bloom is immense value
if you already have insane healing/are past stage 8 then yes bloom is bad
but in every single other case bloom is a free rejuvenation rack

[stable valve]

acrid is a good and cute boye

[ebon owl]

Bloom and transcendence are both good in different situations

[outer jackal]

Idk what you want me to say. I have items like monster tooth, medkit, leeching seed and scrap all my meat.

[rotund pasture]

in what way then

[white herald]

https://tenor.com/view/sushichaeng-among-us-among-us-meme-shocked-confused-gif-22454610

[earnest prairie]

transcendence is always good because transcendence is the even better defensive item

[rotund pasture]

do you stack leeching seeds to the point where you get like 100 healing\

[signal cipher]

This is off topic but man Swarms Mithrix is so fuckin' cool

[native bear]

it the among us impoter

[rotund pasture]

sure yes
but consistent 10% maxhp
no

[earnest prairie]

maybe i just know when corpsebloom is a valuable pickup

[outer jackal]

I still don't need help in the first loop, and after that I have enough healing

[rotund pasture]

why would free double regen not be worth

[earnest prairie]

you can get rid of bloom
you will inevitably encounter cleansing pools when you loop

[simple sun]

not a fair argument

[pure lava]

why would you get rid of bloom

[outer jackal]

I really don't need that healing.
At 1 stack, 5 enemies is 10% on monster tooth
2 stacks, 1 hit is 10% on medkit
And at 1 stack for every 100 hp, 10 shots is 10% for leeching seed

[ebon owl]

Roguelite communities when ITEM is good or not good

[signal cipher]

• aoe matters
• double the threats
• revolving doors becomes more as you have to either deal with 2 at the same time OR you'll have to dodge both the revolving doors attack AND the other Mithrix
• your items get split evenly between the 2 so there's a little bit of strategy on who to prioritize to get good items back

Super cool change of pace

[simple sun]

Roguelite communities when ignorant to facts

[white herald]

Roguelite communities when item

[earnest prairie]

all of those are 10%/sec
bloom is also 10%/sec
with these items + bloom you have double the healing of these items
????

[cerulean zodiac]

now that i think about it, risk of rain is the first roguelike i played where its so easy to heal

[earnest prairie]

do you not take rejuvenation racks because you don't need that healing or what

[ebon owl]

I swear it's just as cringe here and in the tboi one

[rotund pasture]

how much do you go out for monster tooth heal orbs in your gameplay
ok thats one hit
and that healing gets spread out to 1% over 10 seconds
so you need 10 times more
do you have 100 hp on any character

[white herald]

tboi?

[outer jackal]

At ONE OR TWO stacks of these basic ass items i already have multiple ways to heal 10% per second
I don't need corpsebloom

[signal cipher]

The binding of isaac

[ebon owl]

The Binding of Isaac

[white herald]

Oooh

[flat halo]

The intersecting walls still haunt me

[white herald]

Never actually played that game

[simple sun]

Me when I have no idea how items work

[white herald]

Heard it’s good though.

[rotund pasture]

you dont seem to understand that it spreads out all healing whether its above or below 10%

[zenith obsidian]

it is

[signal cipher]

IKR

[white herald]

tboi sounds likes a cool guy what’s his sound cloud?

[rotund pasture]

so a 20% health heal would be 2% over 10 seconds

[signal cipher]

And that's what makes it super cool

[outer jackal]

No, but I might have like 400, which is 4% constant healing per 10 shots PER STACK

[ebon owl]

As someone who has played a shit ton of both isaac and ror2 I gotta say isaac is the more "touch grass" one

[simple sun]

not how the item works

[cerulean zodiac]

kay, enough talking about some bad item

can dio's tank a reaver explosion?

[earnest prairie]

ok
these items + bloom is double the healing of those items
so you can take more offensive item options instead of those if you have a choice in the future
like trishops/printers
it's like
why would you want to get MORE of these items when you can have that amount + bloom for ample amounts of healing and instead focus on getting more damage when you can

[simple sun]

Corpsebloom just heals you for 2% 5 times each second until it's healing is out

[white herald]

Really? It always looked pretty simplistic to me from what I had seen, then again I hadn’t seen much

[simple sun]

It does not stretch your 1 health from a leech seed over 10 seconds

[dusk wraith]

no. the i frames dont work for it

[signal cipher]

It will bring you back to life if you get caught in it yes

[native bear]

it kills you like normal and pops the dio, reviving you

[dusk wraith]

if you revive and then get hit by explosion the iframes dont save you

[signal cipher]

That'd be so unlucky lmao

[cerulean zodiac]

huh, kinda weird cause i do remember evaporating despite having dios

[ebon owl]

You can play ror2 casually, isaac has replaying the game and beating different bosses as different characters baked deep into the gameplay loop

[cerulean zodiac]

or maybe that didnt happen

[ebon owl]

And yes I 100%ed tainted lost

[stable valve]

acrid cute pup

[outer jackal]

I'm sorry if item management is hard for you, but I know which bad items to scrap and which healing items to take.
Its about balance. Not maxing out DPS and getting a lunar to carry the rest of the way. Because that's unsustainable

[ebon owl]

ACROD

[signal cipher]

I like Dio's

[white herald]

Not a rogue like, but the most painful 100% of a game I’ve done is hollow knight

[native bear]

hoopert game too hard please fix gaem

[ebon owl]

The lobstre

[cerulean zodiac]

more stun effects. woohoo

[white herald]

Lmao

[rotund pasture]

you cant afford spending maximum 5 coins to get 10 back?

[simple sun]

Instant stun + 1100% damage

[native bear]

with the angle they're firing at it almost looks like jumping once would dodge the pellets

[signal cipher]

These will be the actual stats now

[ebon owl]

HK is fun until you have to beat every boss in the game without dying

[simple sun]

They are

[stable valve]

when is risk of rain 3 come?

[white herald]

Yup. I did that.

[earnest prairie]

LOOOOOOOOOL
i mean
if i can get a lunar and then max out my dps
why would i NOT do that? how is that unsustainable lmao
if a lunar CAN completely nullify my need for healing items so i can instead focus on taking damage
how
is that lunar
a bad item.

[signal cipher]

When was this INFORMSTION REVEALEDBEIXHJEFJD

[cerulean zodiac]

just dont get hit lol

[simple sun]

You can just tell from the gifs, he shoots 11 projectiles that deal 100% damage

[rotund pasture]

listen he just deeploops every time

[simple sun]

or maybe not 100% and he more damage but it's just a fuck ton of damage

[earnest plaza]

and it prevents fall damage and it lets you scrap all healing items and it stacks like crazy
(please dont call twansedence bad or itll huwt my feewings 🥺 )

[signal cipher]

It's bad because it's op

[outer jackal]

I think what people forget about leeching seed is that for every 1% that does per second, thats 1% less other healing items need to do to be just as effective as corpsebloom.
As like I already said, it doesn't matter how long that healing lasts if you're at 100% hp for most of it.
As long as I can burst heal 100% after being hit (much easier than consistent healing), it will always be more effective than corpsebloom

[earnest prairie]

my deepest condolences for him

[edgy birch]

every time i see this i think about how i will be face to face with these psycho-killers when trying to escape the moon (if i choose to kill mithrix)

[simple sun]

If they spawn there at all but fair to assume they will

[signal cipher]

Ion see any numbers

[rotund pasture]

my recommendation: stop deeplooping and start enjoying the game

[zenith obsidian]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/939074888357003314/F927423E-DFF3-4F61-9B0F-8C4407736033.gif

[outer jackal]

Stop telling me how to enjoy the game 😂

[native bear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/893925635028824064/929875334411726868/image0.gif

[earnest prairie]

you need burst healing if you just facetank everything lol

[zenith obsidian]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/888048775178899546/919922860481445908/image0-34_1.gif

[stable valve]

never

[earnest prairie]

actually truest

[zenith obsidian]

shut it dyno

[ebon owl]

Idk man I just think corpsebloom is good

[signal cipher]

Damn

[winged ferry]

is my knowledge of elder gods useful in this game?

[simple sun]

There's other gifs too just yea like 132 damage, compared to a Vagrant explosion which is a 130 damage

[zenith obsidian]

yes

[outer jackal]

I need burst healing if I'm not constantly hurt*

[ebon owl]

good summary. It's good until you die

[simple sun]

just buy corpsebloom and go to mithrix

[outer jackal]

You can't survive this game taking hits when already damaged, so why stretch out that time that you're hurt?
I only need 100% ASAP after getting hit in the first place

[white herald]

Thanks you made me shit myself :(

[rotund pasture]

just go mithrix
why not go mithrix

[cerulean zodiac]

just find a medkit printer

lol lmao

[earnest prairie]

if you deeploop any serious attack will deal several times your hp bar
so you need burst healing for
burst damage
if you can't avoid taking damage for a couple of seconds to heal with bloom
then that's kinda your problem lmao
it's the same thing with transcendence

[white herald]

Yea me and mithrix chill

[zenith obsidian]

just find bungus an aegis

hot

[stable valve]

add a banana item and give it a minions reference so i can roleplay as being a minion as commando with specs

[cerulean zodiac]

no white items at stage 9

[rotund pasture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867472367454257182/940549204990894120/jYlhDFcH.gif

[zenith obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[native bear]

embed fail. laugh@

[simple sun]

no one is arguing about stage 9

[rotund pasture]

NOOOO

[simple sun]

if you do think Trans and Corpse are like awesome in stage 11 on average then that is pretty questionable

[rotund pasture]

i fall to embed failure

[simple sun]

because you will inevitably have so many healing items that they both only hinder you

[rotund pasture]

i wouldnt use corpse on rex im not stupid

[zenith obsidian]

i wouldnt use corpse at all

[earnest prairie]

i mean
i think it's easier with transcendence because you don't need healing items in general
and the scrapping system is just astrobroken

[simple sun]

I wouldnt use Rex at all

[native bear]

holy shit corpe hudband?!!?

[zenith obsidian]

that cool sounding anime voice actor?

[native bear]

bees

[ebon owl]

is it still cropsebloom debate

[zenith obsidian]

bees

[earnest prairie]

cropsblom

[edgy birch]

i love gup

[ebon owl]

DadThatAttack is typing... (most likely CROPSEBLOOM BAD½! message 19999)

[outer jackal]

Except transcendence is faster, doubles your health and requires 0 healing items.
Corpsebloom just increases the healing you get from items that already do enough, while making it easier to die.
The reason I need burst healing is because I'm not planning to get hit often since any hit is a potential death sentence, but at least if I survive with OSP or a weaker attack, I don't want to be finished off because I spent the next 10 seconds healing, rather than waiting 2 for a medkit to full heal me.

[ebon owl]

I was very much right :)

[earnest prairie]

if you hate cropsblom
and you think
its garbich
and childich
then get off my page because all you gonna see here is cropsblom goodbaye

[edgy birch]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-nodding-gif-23343508

[white herald]

New survivor leak

[outer jackal]

I tried that.

[zenith obsidian]

fuck people that use it and fuck those who dont
THE END

[dusk wraith]

where did the transcendence doubling your hp come from I thought it was +50% but I have seen people write double multiple times

[simple sun]

Really shows how often they take it

[earnest prairie]

yes, transcendence is better than corpsebloom, we know that
if you aren't planning to get hit often then why would you need BURST healing??????????????? what are you even talking about at this point maaaaan
if you aren't planning to get hit often then you have time to heal with bloom
w a t

[native bear]

the eyes they blend in with the drywall

[ebon owl]

transcendence gives HP but I thought it was less that double?

[misty tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/499799050951065601/940392790939013120/wrathoftheusa.mp4

[earnest prairie]

yes its 50% +25% each stack past 1

[ebon owl]

this is so cry about it

[white herald]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-voices-in-my-head-voices-cat-gif-23453583

[outer jackal]

I said that I don't take transcendence because the heal time still isn't ideal for me, because I like healing. But at least transcendence has actually benefits. Corpsebloom is just there to carry people who don't take enough healing items

[ebon owl]

nice

[rotund pasture]

who dont take enough healing items
its called not having a skill issue

[zenith obsidian]

i would shove her in a meat grinder for a half eaten cheese burger

[ebon owl]

https://tenor.com/view/hee-hee-beetle-stag-beetle-large-beetle-beetle-love-gif-21759465

[native bear]

what a stupid beetle

[ebon owl]

transcencdence is good because you can scrap all your healing items when you take it

[white herald]

I wanna make a beetle wrestling ring and watch beetles fight

[simple sun]

Shaped Glass is good because you can scrap all your damage items when you take it

[earnest prairie]

yes
corpsebloom has a clear purpose
which is allowing you to focus on damage items/compensate bad rng in general
yes, you do not take it in every situation, but the only valuable lunar that you can take every time without question is gesture

[ebon owl]

https://tenor.com/view/giraffa-stag-beetle-beetle-mobile-banana-gif-19060310

[cerulean zodiac]

banan

[zenith obsidian]

nice

[white herald]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-melon-watermelon-muncher-the-ferocious-muncher-gif-23667477

[cerulean zodiac]

imagine obliterating on rainstorm ):

[zenith obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-stick-bugged-bug-dancing-bug-dancing-gif-18059923

[outer jackal]

Because I want to spend as much time as possible at 100% hp. Can you fuckin listen please. After I do take damage I can full heal very quickly from monster tooth and med kits, which is a lot more efficient than taking a corpsebloom. And in my case this effect carries through for most of the game, since lesser healing is paired with weaker hits.

[ebon owl]

😳

[white herald]

I forgot this meme existed for a while

What the fuck

[cerulean zodiac]

or just kill mithrix on the first loop

[swift current]

they appear on any difficulty if you get hahahaha

[zenith obsidian]

youre welcome

[outer jackal]

Must be a skill issue if you still don't have enough healing

[ebon owl]

I can block dadthatattack because I know all their messages are gonna be the same thing (extreme malding)

[rotund pasture]

i dont need healing if im just not taking damage every second

[woeful gorge]

why does it look so sad

[simple sun]

it knows it's ugly

[ebon owl]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

you sure thats gup?

[native bear]

would you swim in a gup pool

[outer jackal]

Then why take corpsebloom?

[simple sun]

#announcements message

[zenith obsidian]

imagine fighting over an item in FUCKING VIDEO GAME

[edgy birch]

first time in gd1?

[rotund pasture]

because if i do get hit i can heal out much faster than without

[cerulean zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[outer jackal]

I mean wouldn't be as much of a fight if they didn't keep using strawman arguments and telling me how to have fun

[zenith obsidian]

nope unfortunately

[earnest prairie]

ok
that at least made a grain of sense thank you
if you already have a solid amount of healing that you are already invincible
then you do not need corpsebloom
yes

if you don't have an insane amount of healing and are not planning on deeplooping
corpsebloom is a free rejuv rack

[glad finch]

here we go (i have no mobility)

[ebon owl]

welcome to gd1!

[native bear]

you have 2 hopoo feathers you'll be fine

[stable valve]

[outer jackal]

Except corpsebloom can't heal you in less than 3 seconds because its hard capped at 10

[simple sun]

wrong

[ebon owl]

hopoo feathre

[astral lily]

wait why were people shitting on transc, that's like my favorite item on merc

[glad finch]

correction, no horizontal mobility

[cerulean zodiac]

those coins have been acquired ligitimately

[rotund pasture]

and
i dont get hit in that time i can escape danger unlike you it seems\

[earnest prairie]

i have literally given you arguments for it several times already

i stated multiple times that yes corpsebloom is not an instant pickup

but it has situations in which it provides you with insane value

which makes it
a good item

[native bear]

you have 2 wax quails

[white herald]

Noooo but you don’t understand everyone needs to know that you need exactly 14 gigafarts to get 100% proc chance on gigashart which will then proc the cum chalice buff giving the player extra healing via cum

[simple sun]

Gd1 is being transphobic

[glad finch]

i can't run for my life with a cum bird

[ebon owl]

🏳️‍⚧️ endence is good

[outer jackal]

I don't care if you get hit or not. Its still worse

[rotund pasture]

trasngendence makes you double jump

[rotund pasture]

double healing is very bad i agree

[ebon owl]

the moral of celeste is that trans people can double jump. the end

[outer jackal]

Except if you don't need it

[cerulean zodiac]

so youre telling me trans people won't heal if i never stop hitting them?

[zenith obsidian]

it does??

[simple sun]

but Celeste is about depression

[stable valve]

does anyone have a rtx 3080 and what your fps by stage 30 at 1440p

[simple sun]

why can't I double jump bitch

[white herald]

Lmfao

[cerulean zodiac]

and having an evil black alter ego

[rotund pasture]

deeplooper arguments dont work here

[white herald]

Y’all ever wonder if the developers are just watching gd1?

[zenith obsidian]

yes

[white herald]

I wonder sometimes

[neat ruin]

#ror2-feedback-and-ideas message give some thumbs ups to this fella

[edgy birch]

i think corpsebloom is really good early on (like first 5 stages early on) because you will probably not reach that max health limit super quickly, which means that the downside is nonexistent basically giving you 100% healing

if you plan on looping then the downside will be more prominent for you than the upside, so i think both of you guys are right just on different mindsets

[hallow sedge]

Usually not I'd suppose

[neat ruin]

wolfo why?

[cerulean zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[neat ruin]

i thought you were based

[rotund pasture]

finally
someone smart

[winged ferry]

Ecentric vase is actually amazing

[outer jackal]

But like I said, the difference is negligible when early game hits do less than half health anyway, because at all stages of the game medkits can do most of the healing instantly
And I already said its fine on the first loop, but without a consistent way to get rid of lunars, its not worth taking

[neat ruin]

why did you ⛔

[earnest prairie]

EXACTLY
except bloom is good until like stage 8-ish but still
yes

[neat ruin]

if hopoo had correct descriptions

[white herald]

Smart and ror2 don’t synergize

[glad finch]

im not really worried about getting TO mithrix with this mobility, i'm worried that i wont get back to the ship

[rotund pasture]

taking half time is very negligible i agree
just like the convergence halves the time for tp but it sucks if you use it

[cerulean zodiac]

lol

[rotund pasture]

glass canon

[winged ferry]

[cerulean zodiac]

glass bow

[earnest prairie]

glass cannon? more like glass cannot

[winged ferry]

having low hp doesn't mean that you're a glass cannon

[rotund pasture]

i agree she is a glass cannon when you get 128 glass

[outer jackal]

Double healing != half time

[winged ferry]

[rotund pasture]

math when its fake

[ebon owl]

I can't find the meme but it's basically

OMG! This game represents depression so well

(the real moral going over their head) trans people can double jump

[earnest prairie]

me when the suggestion that tries to solve the game's most prominent design issue is downvoted into the deepest pits of hell

[zenith obsidian]

oh god

[cerulean zodiac]

i cant handle this amount of based

[glad finch]

good on eclipse and pretty fun in general, don't care what anyone says

[neat ruin]

Fortnite Expert

[rotund pasture]

holy shuit is that a fortniter reference

[rotund pasture]

i cant defeat the umbra its crackin too much ninedeez

[edgy birch]

ya osp kinda sucks
it would be cool if the game didnt even need it

[earnest prairie]

osp is a bandaid

[woeful gorge]

why did anyone dislike this

[outer jackal]

If you heal 300% HP, you can still only use up to 100%
Without corpsebloom, you still get 150% but at an uncapped speed.
Corpsebloom will never half healing time, because it still requires some healing that you would have got anyway.
It might get you to 100% instead of 50%, but if that's not a problem, corpsebloom is almost always slower

[rotund pasture]

deeploopers when osp gets removed (they cry about it)

[edgy birch]

i feel like that would be a really nice step forward making me want to loop more

[solid siren]

(they should get rose bucklers and some bitches)

[ebon owl]

risk of rayne player when personal shield generalrorr

[stable valve]

Noooo but you don’t understand everyone needs to know that you need exactly 14 gigafarts to get 100% proc chance on gigadick which will then proc the cum chalice buff giving the player extra healing via cum

[rotund pasture]

ok now try to bring up an argument that can exist in earlygame

[neat ruin]

deeploopers get fucked tbh, why do you even get hit in the first place there

[earnest prairie]

severe smoothness of brain

[rotund pasture]

me when i heal 300% my hp in earlygame

[white herald]

Yet another huntress main:

[rotund pasture]

(i stacked 1290423089 medkits)

[edgy birch]

gd1 vs the rest of the server

[neat ruin]

i get aegis to full!

[zenith obsidian]

oh just shut up about that stupid fucking item jesus christ, if you dont like it dont take it

[woeful gorge]

like did people just read "osp should be removed", downvote and move on without even considering why it's there in the first place

[solid siren]

youre new to the game
opinion discarded

[cerulean zodiac]

i don't understand asian

[earnest prairie]

i bet half of those people still believe stacking glass is the way to achieve immortality

[white herald]

Dudes basically just yelling about how he wants to have sex

[winged ferry]

add a secret mechanic:
picking up tonic and a single gesture kills you

[outer jackal]

If you take 30% damage, you need 30% healing to full heal.
With corpsebloom you need 15%
This is capped to 2 seconds. Exactly the same speed as medkits would take. The lower risk + other healing items makes the time saved by corpsebloom negligible

[white herald]

Get it cause huntress mains are sex deprived horny bastards

[winged ferry]

yea yea...

[rotund pasture]

me when i stack medkits just to not take corpsebloom

ok what will your medkits do when youre burning

[zenith obsidian]

any main is yes even rex and acrid

[outer jackal]

4 healing items is not unreasonable early game

[white herald]

The acrid mods

[solid siren]

corpsebloom is just better first loop

[zenith obsidian]

[rotund pasture]

no listen it doesnt work with 20 medkits therefor its gatrbage

[dusk wraith]

if you check the nsfw box on your mod browser I am frowning at you

[white herald]

Same

[rotund pasture]

😦 😦 😦 😦 😦 😦 😦

[outer jackal]

And just worse after. So its time to decide how much do you actually need that early game healing?
If you're desperate, take it.
But otherwise its just a pretty bad pick imo

[zenith obsidian]

then frown at me

[dusk wraith]

maybe I will

[edgy birch]

when you plan to loop, then yeah corspebloom isnt as pretty looking
however, for mithrix killers it's alright

[white herald]

[rotund pasture]

it literally will maximum cost you 5 lunars to get a bloom
and you get back 10 from mithrix ignoring random drops

[dusk wraith]

also dont take bloom on/past e5

[solid siren]

yeah i shouldnt take healing items, just dont get hit
i shouldnt take speed items, just dont get hit
i shouldnt take damage items, just take more time

[zenith obsidian]

okay, thats your opinion now please just shut the fuck up jesus

[cinder notch]

corpsebloom good early, if you want to get rid of it then just get rid of it

[rotund pasture]

mithrix gives 10 lunar coins yes

[solid siren]

like bruh its a free rejuv rack first loop

[cerulean zodiac]

he is the moon man after all

we loot his corpse

[stable valve]

when can upload pics/videos, and change nickname on server?

[zenith obsidian]

disable all item except for corpse bloom

[earnest prairie]

i don't take rejuvenation racks first loop because i simply don't need that much healing 🤓

[cerulean zodiac]

pick a role

[cinder notch]

I dont pick up any red items, too op

[rotund pasture]

i dont pick up clover first loop because i dont need that much damage

[zenith obsidian]

based

[outer jackal]

I'm ignoring the cost of lunars for this.
What I'm saying is 2 medkits early game is 10-15% healing. 5 kills on a monster tooth is another 10% healing and a leeching seed can easily do the rest. You can manage this in about 2 seconds, which means with a little skill you can get a very similar time payout as corpsebloom even earlygame

[cinder notch]

"5 kills on a monster tooth is another 10% healing " lmao

[rotund pasture]

or you can take
one bloom
and get what is that four damage items?

[glad finch]

cammon ingerland

[rotund pasture]

tell me
would you rather have an atg
or a leech seed

[earnest prairie]

scor som fackin goals

[signal cipher]

Me when the game only gives me preons, ocular huds and backups

[rotund pasture]

!feedback

[cerulean zodiac]

leech seed

[outer jackal]

Tell me
Do you always have a choice
Especially between literally S Tier, or early game healing.

[stable valve]

what channel let me

[rotund pasture]

you literally play command based on your argument

[cerulean zodiac]

#role-assignment

[signal cipher]

#role-assignment

[outer jackal]

Your argument is the one literally asking what to take with command

[zenith obsidian]

Heresadick*

[signal cipher]

Bandit -> studit

[edgy birch]

i think it's a mistake in wording
saying "corpsebloom is good on the first loop" is true, but i think it's meant in the context of "corpsebloom is good when going for mithrix, because then it has little-to-no downside and i can prioritize other items instead of filling that gap with healing" not "corpsebloom is good on the first loop but i should really try getting rid of it after i loop" because then yeah it might just be better to not bother at all (until they hopefully buff cleansing pool spawn rates)

[cerulean zodiac]

i prefer the magic knives

[stable valve]

acrid.acrid

[rotund pasture]

says the guy who always gets a medkit and a leeching seed and a monster tooth stage 1

[earnest prairie]

if i have a corpsebloom
i can scrap that leeching seed (granted leeching seed has less value than most white items anyways)
and with how broken scrapping is
there is 0 reason for me not to do it

[rotund pasture]

^that too

like oops reminder scrapper alert

[outer jackal]

So what you're saying is... this idiot is trying to strawman me because he refuses to accept i play the game differently to him... interesting

[earnest prairie]

the fact that you play the game differently does not all of a sudden make the 3rd best lunar item bad

[cerulean zodiac]

literally the perfect item

[edgy birch]

no not really
i'm saying that you two are arguing two different points, thinking you're arguing the same point
or in other words, you're completely right for not taking corpesbloom, but he's right for thinking it's good on the first loop

[outer jackal]

Its not unreasonable to have a few healing items early game damn bro
I'm not the one looking for the bazaar stage 1 every run

[rotund pasture]

clover is garbage because i play purity

[stable valve]

acrid

[peak lark]

Dealing damage heals you.

[cinder notch]

Acrid

[wicked briar]

And as soon as you have more than 13% critchance, strictly worse than scythe

[peak lark]

The worst fucking description ever

[rotund pasture]

what is unreasonable is getting the same healing items every stage
and finding a bazaar is super easy

[cerulean zodiac]

(it was a joke, it's always bad)

[outer jackal]

Except I've said its good on the first loop 100 times. But its not worth taking if you don't have a good way to get rid of it.
Ending the game is a pretty good way of getting rid of it

[outer jackal]

Roost

[rotund pasture]

ok now point me to one message where youve said that

[cinder notch]

it'd be kinda funny if blight on Acrid had a really tiny proc coefficient. not saying whether or not itd be balanced but it would be really funny

[signal cipher]

Leeching seed is good on loader and acrid

[zenith obsidian]

okay we get it you dont like it

[solid siren]

even in looping though, with autoplay it doesnt matter if you have corpsebloom or not

[rotund pasture]

original roost doesnt have a bazaar spawn like 80% times anyways lol

[earnest prairie]

you have also said there is little reason to take it even in earlygame
which is literally just like false it is a wrong take bro

[stable valve]

huntress with 10 stacks of fireworks

[earnest prairie]

leeching seed is a very very low bar to set

[peak lark]

Dealing damage heals you.

[outer jackal]

Bruh

[neat ruin]

wait

[cinder notch]

I have a biased and unrealistic opinion on leech seed as an Acrid main

[neat ruin]

how the fuck backstab is risky against melee foes

[echo bluff]

me when i find a medkit printer pre loop and print 15 medkits
(corpsebloom isn't good anymore!!!!)

[outer jackal]

Bruh 2

[neat ruin]

if melee foes are slow ass fuck and cant even turn around to hit you from behind

[cinder notch]

skill issue

[earnest prairie]

bruh 3
it's not something you take when you are desperate it's something you take when you don't loop lmfao

[neat ruin]

backstab is the dumbest passive in the game making you mow over early game like it's nothing

[cerulean zodiac]

desperado is literally bad

[outer jackal]

Oops Mr corpsebloom doesn't have early game corpsebloom

[neat ruin]

that's my suggestion for the description fix

[cerulean zodiac]

not even kidding

[earnest prairie]

i am now thoroughly convince you type out shit takes on purpose

[neat ruin]

how tho, tell me in numbers, i dont understand bad

[cerulean zodiac]

its not

[cinder notch]

backstab is a little silly

[outer jackal]

I said its fine first loop, but still not worth taking unless you can get rid of it

[rotund pasture]

me when stage 2 doesnt exist (you get teleported to mithrix arena)

[stable valve]

yes

[echo bluff]

TRUE

[outer jackal]

You when you purposely ignore the 2 messages you pretended i never said

[cerulean zodiac]

resetting all of your cooldowns is leagues better than some dumb temporary 10% dmg increase

[woeful gorge]

trust me i need to chain stealth off 20 wisps to beat the first stage

[neat ruin]

it's 60%

[cinder notch]

what if i wanna fly 😔

[rotund pasture]

what messages

[edgy birch]

yeah bandit's cooldowns are pretty low, wish they were a bit longer but nerfs dont happen often in ror2

[earnest prairie]

sigh
fine we are arguing semantics at this point
grrr said loop is broken until you are broken
which is the truth
end of story

[glad finch]

FUCK THIS GAME JUST GIVE ME ONE GOAT HOOF

[outer jackal]

You don't get to say ite unreasonable to have 3 healing items stage 1 if you are gonna say this when you don't get corpsebloom stage 1. Total hypocrisy

[peak lark]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-avalon-play-avalon-gif-24241051

[echo bluff]

me when i could reset my 3s cooldown and use the ability 1s faster OR i could infinitely stack damage

[outer jackal]

Check the replies of bruh and bruh 2

[peak lark]

i see what you did there

[echo bluff]

i do want a lights out buff but idk what they'd even do

[cinder notch]

I think both of the bandit options are fine

[earnest prairie]

ruin is better than either

[outer jackal]

I'm only even arguing at this point because this dude is purposely misrepresenting my arguments and being rude

[woeful gorge]

one is strictly better than the other

[echo bluff]

lights out is easily outclassed imo but it's still good

[cinder notch]

ok

[echo bluff]

yeah pretty much

[stable valve]

i keep getting matched with someone named fireguy1334 and he has 1400 hours and only plays acrid. he carries me every time i play with him tho. 😊

[neat ruin]

light's out is fine on itself, but it just doesnt work with bandit's kit
you need to give him 6-8 rounds in clip and make slow reload even slower
higher cooldown on secondary and utility

[cinder notch]

Acrid

[stable valve]

acrid.acrid

[neat ruin]

dude give lights out to huntress she gonna be top tier

[echo bluff]

yeah but the thing is people will cry about the kit being changed

[earnest prairie]

yea bandits cooldowns are already short enough for lights out to only have value in chainkilling wisps stage 1
which (spoiler alert) you can do with your primary fire

[outer jackal]

I thought lights out was fine tbh

[neat ruin]

who fucking cares

[cinder notch]

Acrid is the absolute best character for saving shitty runs where you're way behind

[echo bluff]

hopoo apparently

[outer jackal]

Just like kill things and then keep killing things

[stable valve]

acrid is cute

[solid siren]

it stacks like 600% => 660% => 720% etc.
and you can get 20~40 stacks per stage when full looting
resulting in at least 1800% and at most 3600%, not including backstab
(bandit is balanced i swear)

[neat ruin]

hopoo? cares? he makes quirky indie rpg insipired by earthbound

[signal cipher]

Shoulda looped smh

[neat ruin]

bro wtf

why no one understands how desperado tokens stack

hopoooo gaaaaaames make better fucking descriptions

[earnest prairie]

it's worded poorly
it's not 10% of your base damage
it's 10% of desperado's 60%
which makes it a 60% increase per kill basically

[outer jackal]

Desperado tokens don't stack when you can't kill things

[neat ruin]

10 tokens is 1200% desperado damage 10 tokens is 1200% desperado damage 10 tokens is 1200% desperado damage 10 tokens is 1200% desperado damage 10 tokens is 1200% desperado damage

[outer jackal]

Ltier

[cinder notch]

[edgy birch]

i wish chain killing was desperado's gimmick instead of a "stage-permanent" damage increase. like: keep the damage increase per kill, but make each kill reset desperado's cooldown, and missing a kill resets the stack of damage (so the whole thing is about killing a ton of enemies in quick succession to rack up a lot of tokens)

[solid siren]

which is why essence is better around stage 4 or 5 😼

[stable valve]

is there a banana item being added to the dlc

[earnest prairie]

yeah 10 desperado kills is literally double damage of the ability

[native bear]

this is what hopoo ability descriptions do to people

[woeful gorge]

desperado's nutty

[stable valve]

are any of the new dlc items a banana

[woeful gorge]

there is literally no argument for lights out

[signal cipher]

60% is 10% of 600% which is why people say it stacks by 10% which is why the description says this

[earnest prairie]

thatd be neat tbh

[cinder notch]

what if I like spinning the gun a lot

[woeful gorge]

get purity

[solid siren]

simple program i wrote in 10 seconds

[cerulean zodiac]

imagine having -3 luck

[echo bluff]

society

[cinder notch]

I already take purity with lights out for more spins

[outer jackal]

Instant ability reset is pretty fun. You can use it to fly

[neat ruin]

we barely ever argue about fun

[dire basin]

instant ability reset means infinite M2 as long as there are wisps

[neat ruin]

like how it can be even a factor

[edgy birch]

hemorrhage could be better

[neat ruin]

i could have fun using full-robot rex, doesnt mean it's any effective

[woeful gorge]

true

[echo bluff]

TRUE

gd1 hates fun (law)

[echo bluff]

(i do)

[cerulean zodiac]

guys we aren't here to have fun. since when are videogames about having fun?

[earnest prairie]

never

[echo bluff]

smh he's so slow how do people even play this character !!!!

[neat ruin]

no fun. not ever.

mult kinda the best

[dire basin]

MUL-T is actually trash

[cinder notch]

i wish full robot was better lol, but at the same time risk vs reward I guess. I just have never understood how anyone would like the robot abilities more

[earnest prairie]

THE BEST

[cerulean zodiac]

fov is a bitch

[dire basin]

no mobility-having mf

[neat ruin]

https://thunderstore.io/package/HIFU/HIFURexTweaks/

[earnest prairie]

its just that
the risk of losing hp is compensated for with your immense healing so hard that full robot has less survivability (except on E8)

[outer jackal]

Well when I do talk about how I like to loop, you just get people being rude basically saying its invalid. So yeah I'm not surprised

[ebon owl]

are you still talking about corpsebloom?

[stable valve]

has anyone ever gotten a spinel tonic early on and attempted to do a run with it

[dire basin]

also wdym aren't rex's robot abilities better

[ebon owl]

the plant ones are better

[cerulean zodiac]

they aren't

[earnest prairie]

no
literally none of them
bramble volley is a straight upgrade over sonic boom

[cinder notch]

yeah like I totally get why all the robot abilities are just worse. I will say the fruits could be cool but eh

[echo bluff]

i wish there weren't mods that try to buff one ability and instead just nerf other ones

[ebon owl]

I guess an argument could be made for robot m2?

but it's still worse

[dire basin]

Drill is so much better than seed barrage though

[cinder notch]

absolutely not

[woeful gorge]

directive: harvest is the worst

[echo bluff]

directive harvest is kind of fucking awesome i love it

[ebon owl]

harvest is actually laughable

[edgy birch]

i was excited when i got harvest cause i thought it sounded and looked really cool

[signal cipher]

True we need to nerf alt huntress to make her on par with default huntress

[stable valve]

whats the most stacks of spinel tonic you guys have ever racked up

[outer jackal]

No idea, seemed like everyone gave up when they realised that the thing they kept saying I already agreed with

[ebon owl]

such a great concept but fucking horrible

[neat ruin]

directive: drill is a good skill on itself and works well with growth, it's just seed barrage is better

[echo bluff]

too bad the projectile doesn't work in multiplayer

[cinder notch]

if you're not at half hp perma spamming Rex m2 you are literally playing him wrong

[dire basin]

Seed barrage melts everything

[stable valve]

also question is there a cap on the negative stats you can acquire from spinel tonic

[earnest prairie]

directive drill is better arrow rain
but seed barrage is even better than those two
bandssss yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 🤪

[signal cipher]

Idea:

Add the Medic from TF2 in ROR2.

Passive effect would be that allies like drones, turrets, beetle guards etc... would be stronger because the medic himself wouldn't have a way to do reliable damage

M1 is the medigun with which you can heal allies and build up Übercharge.
M2 is the crusader's crossbow with which you can either heal allies or hurt enemies.
Alt M2s would be the syringe guns
Shift would either be a quickfix rocket jump with no rocket or a temporary Overdose speedboost
Special can only be used if Übercharge is at 100%

[outer jackal]

0

[cinder notch]

i wasnt really even part of that convo but that sounds like cope

[ebon owl]

you actually have to pick up the directive harvest thing, that's so pathetic

[neat ruin]

man thunderdome and harvest were definitely last month additions for anniversary

[cerulean zodiac]

a healing character would be cool. just utterly useless

[dire basin]

medic is already hot

[edgy birch]

yeah exactly
playing support roles in this game would be really cool, and i usually already do that like with poison acrid or captain
railgunner i hope will also be a cool "birds eye sniper" kind of support

[cerulean zodiac]

disagree to disagree

[halcyon dagger]

We have REX, REX can heal

[dire basin]

a healing character would be useless past the first loop

[cinder notch]

loader's slam is so good

[echo bluff]

disagree
a healing character would be lame AND useless

[neat ruin]

tbh if you give engi healing drone's m1 you will barely notice the difference

[ebon owl]

I mean, engineer

[earnest prairie]

you agreed with it and argued about it at the same time so idk

[echo bluff]

ranged loader

[ebon owl]

the shield is MVP in like every game and he's technically a healer with the bungus

[halcyon dagger]

Engi the true support survivor

[earnest prairie]

loader except she fires bullets instead of herself

[signal cipher]

If you what

[outer jackal]

I think you just can't fathom the idea of someone having fun while looping without command

[dire basin]

could have a character that gives barrier or shield or protects others, but healing is just... kinda bad

[solid siren]

wouldnt railgunner be antifun cause 13500% 3.0

[cinder notch]

regardless if I pick engi Shield or missiles, I stop using both past stage 4

[echo bluff]

yeah engi is definitely the closest to a support

[stable valve]

i moved like a snail but it wasnt 0 yet, i was useless when potion was on cooldown luckily i had 4 extra equipment uses, still, we had to rush teleporters at that point, i wound up dying on stage 30 cus at that point i had 16 stacks. i still havent managed to hav a run where i was attacking that fast tho

[dire basin]

this

[echo bluff]

engineer when it hits stage 3 and the game is no longer fun in any capacity

[edgy birch]

i will probably have fun with railgunner on the first play and i think that it will be fun in multiplayer simply to fill that cool sniper role but i probably wont play her in singleplayer

[earnest prairie]

i mean looping isn't fun for me without command as well

also i can't fathom the idea of having fun in general games are meant to instill uncontainable rage within you

[outer jackal]

I end up using shield because at least I can stop the turrets from getting bullied as much (even if it actually doesn't help)

[ebon owl]

for the early games it's great

[dire basin]

i remember when you could do 4 hour engineer runs when you got 2 bunguses

[echo bluff]

so true bestie

[signal cipher]

Engineer when THE COOLDOWN BUG STILL HASN'T BEEN FIXED FUCK

[cinder notch]

if its stage 3 and I have no bungus I pick up every shaped glass I see

[ebon owl]

beautiful

[forest widget]

shhhhh suncles is right there

[opal ferry]

me when i need 2 legendaries on stage 1 to be viable

[outer jackal]

Sounds like a you problem bro
Command is boring

[zenith obsidian]

what bug?

[signal cipher]

EVEN BETTER
RAISE AWARENESS

[echo bluff]

i played a command run yesterday and actually had fun

[forest widget]

free hooks 😼

[ebon owl]

It's the pug obviously

[earnest prairie]

yes that is what i said
looping is boring with/without command because its autoplay regardless
you do you

[ebon owl]

new character pug

[dire basin]

cringe

cringe opinion

[outer jackal]

Chef = food item printer.
That would really hit those corpsebloomers right in the nuts

[echo bluff]

oh shit corpsebloom can't keep up with the infinite fungus

[earnest prairie]

chef = 🥱

[signal cipher]

Go engi with harppons and any mines
Pick up one backup mag/bandolier
Use up all your mines
Wait for the mines' cooldown to go to like 3 seconds to notice the bug
Pull up the harpoons' hud
Pull it back down
The mines' cooldown is now BACK TO THE FULL FUCKIN' 8 SECONDS

[solid siren]

c o r p s e b l o o m e r s

[stable valve]

commando with tonic is really fun and highly dangerous longer you go. you cant even change equipments because the negative stacks from tonic dont go away ever

[zenith obsidian]

oh

[earnest prairie]

i have plenty more bad ones

[stable valve]

its evil but fun

[neat ruin]

chef could get some fine treatment, but definitely not the straight port

[edgy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[zenith obsidian]

savage

[neat ruin]

wtf

[signal cipher]

MAKE THEM FIX THIS I SWEAR TO GODD DSBRIDBWHEC

It's such a minor annoying fucking bug oh my god I cannot cope

[neat ruin]

no gabbo
hopoo games dont fix bugs
you have modding support
go do it yourself

[outer jackal]

Tonic is a fun item

[cinder notch]

i can only play ror2 for a couple hours before my brain starts melting from sensory overload lmao, same shit happens with Synthetik

[dire basin]

tonic is fun unless you cheated in 20 billion lunar coins

[edgy birch]

i wish autoplay was pushed back a few loops at the very least
it might be too far but i wish the game stayed consistently challenging all the way to roughly stage 20 cause of the long road achievement

[neat ruin]

weak ass brain

[signal cipher]

After march is all we got

[zenith obsidian]

a fellow Synthetik player

[woeful gorge]

loop balance is the #1 thing i wish for

[outer jackal]

Question: whos taking corpsebloom anyway when transcendence is just better in every way

[neat ruin]

wtf the thighs

[edgy acorn]

you see i PURPOSEFULLY miss shots in my footage so the viewer goes "pft what a L i can do better than that" and want to play the expansion more

[solid siren]

people downvoting the loop balance suggestions https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/880642713844846653.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[steel yacht]

hi gd1

[echo bluff]

true

[edgy acorn]

mission failed successfully

[dire basin]

HOT

[zenith obsidian]

genius

[cinder notch]

Fucking love that game so much, Breacher main btw

[signal cipher]

(That was about the m1 auto aim)

[earnest prairie]

chef is overrated because the thing that carried him in ror1 was piercing primary and primary + special interaction
ror1 gameplay is mediocre in general the only reason i boot this game up is that starstorm is still being updated
eviscerate is good with focused assault + attackspeed
ruin is best bandit special
the rifle bandit primary is of comparable strength to shotgun
i forgor the rest

[echo bluff]

railgunner m1 deciding if it'll target the enemies in front of you or shoot something off screen across the map

[steel yacht]

wait, what times were sai awake?

[zenith obsidian]

demo main

[outer jackal]

People down voting literally anything that changes the game more than "make animations better"

[signal cipher]

(The auto targeting on m1 to be more specific)

[neat ruin]

can you explain why dont ever use tracking rounds in your latest simulacrum footage? they are absolutely useless, like cap's taser or something?

[earnest prairie]

chef is CRINGE because he is meant TO COOK THINGS and not to KILL PEOPLE he is the reason for WORLD HUNGER

[woeful gorge]

people want him because of his design and r, not his strength
true
true
true
true but the spread's annoying

[solid siren]

they are slightly better huntress m1

[outer jackal]

Mobile game ads be like

[echo bluff]

i agree with like all of these but i also don't play ror1

[edgy birch]

i only want chef because i really like the idea of a robot chef
i believe that they can make chef conceptually cool like they did with sniper/railgunner (imho railgunner has cool skills they just have big funny numbers)
however i dont want him now that we have sniper, maybe another dlc

[earnest prairie]

yes but they could also make a scrumptious dinner

[cinder notch]

I used to be, that character is great
"oh sorry man, didnt notice you were standing there "

[eager iron]

poor choice of loadout

[light bison]

who's gd1

[steel yacht]

agree

[echo bluff]

i think my favorite thing about chef/chef mods is how they all describe enemies as customers

[stable valve]

i somehow had this nutty run with tonic on commando very early on in my time with the game i think i was still only 12 or 13 hours into the game still learning. normal mode, not easy, no artifacts, in the end i had used tonic so times i had acquired 16 negative buffs, moved like a snail, but when i had iit activated had one zillion attack speed and shredded everything, we got to stage 30 before i finally got one shot after my 5th tonic use cus we couldnt find the teleporter quickly

honestly i live for runs like that now

[earnest prairie]

you fell off

[echo bluff]

shiv

[woeful gorge]

tonic is actually really fun as long as you don't have perma tonic

[edgy acorn]

they are very low damage and only really become useful when you get like a bunch of on hit or attack speed - plus they are pretty boring to watch and are not part of a 'sniper fantasy' so i dont use it much in footage cos you dont click on a railgunner video to watch auto attack homing gun thing

[dire basin]

nice lol

[signal cipher]

Opinion: looping is still fun and engaging up until like stage 20
Beyond that it's fun to bask in the overwhelming amount of power you accumulated for a while and obliterate everything

[steel yacht]

snek

[earnest prairie]

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan at this point i am already willing to accept chef
but not in this expansion
in the next one maybe
this
no

[zenith obsidian]

are they still friends??

[neat ruin]

nice, so we have another character with less than 4 working skill slots

[steel yacht]

yes

[dire basin]

cringe name cringe opinion

[zenith obsidian]

good

[cinder notch]

how do you not attain godhood past stage 8

[echo bluff]

i'm definitely going to do sniper m1 only runs tbh

[earnest prairie]

i am cringe but i am right

[light bison]

hey uncles does dlc include russian translation?

[eager iron]

desperado 👎

[dire basin]

cringe = wrong tho

[stable valve]

if anyone manages to pick up tonic first stage as commando, can reccomend attempting to loop with it. go for extra equipment uses, and standard commando build

[edgy acorn]

the only missing skill here is yours

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-dab-mood-gif-5044603

[signal cipher]

I simply don't use command and ignore op items that are not fun like lunars and tougher times

[neat ruin]

maybe, maybe

[neat ruin]

bro that's not funny

[outer jackal]

Enemies have big health and big damage. Wait till like stage 13 before things start getting insta killed

[zenith obsidian]

destroyed

[opal ferry]

suncles on his elitist gamer arc

[cinder notch]

are you really not one shotting stuff by stage 8?

[outer jackal]

You mean kjaros band and pneumonia band?

[signal cipher]

I don't main loader so no

[echo bluff]

me when i'm playing a character that scales well with bands
(i have won the lategame)

[solid siren]

suncles just confirmed that huntress m1 sucks
cause smart rounds are better huntress m1

[earnest prairie]

well that means im not cringe then
because i am right 😎

[outer jackal]

Nope.
Game does pretty much become insta win afk after about stage 13 tho

[echo bluff]

runalds is blue

[edgy acorn]

the range is MUCH shorter, huntress is one of my most played characters

[earnest prairie]

why

[stable valve]

how do i proc band as commando anytime before first few stages it feels completely random

[echo bluff]

sorry for your loss

[signal cipher]

11MM underrated as fuck fr fr

[steel yacht]

why

[neat ruin]

why

[cinder notch]

Kjaro and Runald's band names should be switched
R is a fire letter bro i don't know how to explain it

[earnest prairie]

11 millimetres? thats still kinda small

[dire basin]

huntress needs nothing wdym, already one of the strongest chars

[zenith obsidian]

huntress is fun and should be played a lot more

[woeful gorge]

rime

[echo bluff]

i'd play huntress, but arrow rain is just too good! suncles, please nerf it now!

[neat ruin]

but cristianu runaldo drinks cold wine

[cinder notch]

don't care

[dire basin]

ok opinion tolerated

[edgy acorn]

i play default huntress too there is nothing wrong with arrow rain

[cinder notch]

R for red, red for fire

[outer jackal]

After the game becomes afk win i go fight mythrix with a super expanded health pool and a beefy phase 3.
Actually hard boss?

[steel yacht]

playing huntress is ok, but this is not ok

[edgy birch]

huntress is ok ig
wish glaive was agile, and there was a bit more damage in her kit

[modest ice]

She's a Hoe

[cinder notch]

So True!!!

[signal cipher]

Can the community manager tell the devs to fix the engi bug and buff huntress slightly with proc coefficient, damage and cooldown reductions buffs
Thanks

[echo bluff]

0.2 proc coefficient

[solid siren]

Strafe Damage Coefficient 150% => 220%.
Flurry Damage Coefficient 100% => 140%.
Flurry's Fire Rate 0.7/s => 1/s.
Flurry's Proc Coefficient 0.7 => 1.0.
Flurry fires 3 => 2 Arrows when not Critting.
Flurry fires 6 => 4 Arrows when Critting.

Laser Glaive's Damage Coefficient 250% => 350%.
Laser Glaive's Damage Coefficient Multiplier per Bounce 10% => 2.5%.
Laser Glaive's Proc Coefficient 0.8 => 1.0.
Laser Glaive's Cooldown 7s => 6s.
Laser Glaive's Duration 1.1s => 0.8s.
(Not Necessary) Laser Glaive's Antigravity Strength 30 => 66, scales with Duration.

Blink's Speed Coefficient 14 => 17.
Blink's Cooldown 7s => 5s.
Phase Blink's Speed Coefficient 15 => 18.
Phase Blink's Max Charges 3 => 2.
Phase Blink's Cooldown 2s => 2.25s.

Arrow Rain's Damage Coefficient 110% => 140%.
Arrow Rain's Proc Coefficient 0.2 => 0.6.
Arrow Rain's Cooldown 12s => 9s.
Ballista's Cooldown 12s => 10s.

And boom huntress DPS is comparable to Commando

[signal cipher]

As a huntress main, what the fuck.

[modest ice]

What engie bug

[outer jackal]

Huntress would be infinitely more viable if mhthrix final stage didnt reset her to worst character in the game by FAR

[earnest prairie]

its almost like there is a certain character with an ability that has 15x that proc coeff 😼

[modest ice]

+1

[echo bluff]

someone should make this a mod!

[signal cipher]

Go engi with harppons and any mines
Pick up one backup mag/bandolier
Use up all your mines
Wait for the mines' cooldown to go to like 3 seconds to notice the bug
Pull up the harpoons' hud
Pull it back down
The mines' cooldown is now BACK TO THE FULL FUCKIN' 8 SECONDS

[edgy birch]

(and make glaive agile :) )

[gusty oar]

sorry railgunner eated all of huntresses proc coeff 😭

[echo bluff]

me when 2% chance to proc atg

[neat ruin]

tbh glaive animation sprint canceling is like
the only satisfying part of her anims

[cinder notch]

Guys Huntress is a good character guys she has mobility!

[signal cipher]

GIVE IT BACK RAILGUNNER

[zenith obsidian]

no

[stable valve]

my fave part of mythrix that feels dangerous is the one aoe attack on the 2nd phase, the speed of the last couple of attacks of that wave feel very thrilling and rewarding to dodge and get out of unscathed

[neat ruin]

phase blink is a crutch

[modest ice]

1. I don't see that as a problem
2. Who tf uses harpoons

[echo bluff]

default huntress players proccing sticky bomb once every 100 arrow rain hits
(not an exaggeration)

[echo bluff]

true

[neat ruin]

normal blink is nice for traversing weird terrain

[zenith obsidian]

blink but worse

[earnest prairie]

phamse blimk

[modest ice]

Default blink best blink

[edgy acorn]

arrow rain is a CC ability that happens to do some damage

[stable valve]

was the google stadia stage made by external developers

[echo bluff]

normal blink feels really bad to use imo so i just use the alt

[echo bluff]

emphasis on some

[neat ruin]

bro wtf

[cinder notch]

"CC" what a strong term for Arrow Rain

[signal cipher]

I fucking hate it here

[earnest prairie]

a lil bit

[neat ruin]

why?

[echo bluff]

rex players using arrow rain on a 2 second cooldown

[outer jackal]

Isnt this a SIGNIFICANT nerf to flurry?

[dire basin]

buff commando plz

[zenith obsidian]

if you dont use harpoons your moms a ho

[echo bluff]

why did i say 2s

[neat ruin]

you literally have nothing to deal the single target damage with defaultress

[signal cipher]

Can't have shit in the official Discord server for Risk of Rain 2 now on Nintend Switch, Xbox, PS4 and Google Stadia.

[modest ice]

I find it useful when u have like 2+ bosses or bigger enemies next to eachother

[neat ruin]

you basically amass enemies to do at least something with glaive

[echo bluff]

the issue is that ballista would just... do better

[edgy birch]

i think it makes flurry better past 50% crit
i think thats nice and is intuitive (if true)

[solid siren]

nope, but it raises its crit requirement to be better while making it feel better and be more consistent

[potent pawn]

Is there anywhere I can listen to the dlc songs that are out without having to use time stamps in the survivor reveal intro

[modest ice]

Sorry, but i prefer the full tf2 engie experiance

[woeful gorge]

nope

[signal cipher]

No becsuse chris chris said no

[cinder notch]

you literally have nothing to deal the damage with defaultress

[solid siren]

in vanilla flurry's dps is better at around 20% crit but its overall better around 80% crit, i just made it so everything is in the 40-60% range

[modest ice]

Dunno, didn't try it yet unlocked it on my last god run and didn't had a chance to use it yet

[zenith obsidian]

then dont use shield or harpoon cuz tf2 engi has neither

[neat ruin]

bro this is not even funny it's just cringe

[edgy acorn]

i'm getting paid to be cringe whats your excuse?

[modest ice]

Shield appears as dispenser in MoisutreUpset so

[neat ruin]

ooooeeeaaaaauuugugggggggggggghhhhhhhhh

[signal cipher]

Good excuse

[edgy birch]

yeah i think this makes more sense
without any prior knowledge and not doing math, it would make sense for it to be better past the rough halfway threshold instead of at random spots. i like it

[zenith obsidian]

that is the way

[outer jackal]

No like its slower and 1/2 less shots, for 40% more damage per shot.
Its just straight terrible.
Also for some reason they made phase blink really bad too

[potent pawn]

Damn, still worth it for those TUNES

[echo bluff]

arrow rain has 2090% vs ballistas total 2700%, ballista isn't over time, and ballista can hit multiple targets as well

not even considering bands and the fact that it's not 5x less likely to proc an item

[neat ruin]

ratiod even

[signal cipher]

Anyway uncles jokes aside are there any bug fixes coming along with the dlc or is it just quality of life/aesthetics changes

[gusty oar]

yep they're great

[modest ice]

Idk i only have 15hours but i like the ability, well see if i Switch off of it

[echo bluff]

if this is about hifu tweaks:
phase blink is completely fine in it

the stack reduction isn't really noticeable tbh

[cinder notch]

Huntress fucking sucks

[edgy birch]

its better than strafe when you get some crit
plus its faster i think not slower (1/s, not 1s)
also 1.0 proc coef

[stable valve]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6a00sB0Lhxq6Yk8RjyG894?si=f3295dacbba94bea 😍

[solid siren]

second one is modded

[outer jackal]

@echo bluff its this

[modest ice]

Cope

[zenith obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-opinion-gif-24099927

[echo bluff]

yeah phase blink is fine in that

[signal cipher]

That's because she has a few tools to help her with survivability and consistent dps

[modest ice]

Shit talking commando
Shit talking huntress

[forest widget]

huntress is my favorite glass cannon

[echo bluff]

shit talking commando is illegal

[signal cipher]

Evil gd1 be like

[ebon owl]

commando is more fun that hutnres

[echo bluff]

true

[cinder notch]

commando is perfect 🥰

[zenith obsidian]

nah its okay to shit talk him

[neat ruin]

getting hit as huntress is like bro why
you will just outwait enemies

[native bear]

commando mains eat candles

[echo bluff]

wakan has commando role so objectively false

[ebon owl]

glass pea shooter

[modest ice]

Commando can't even kill wisp in 2hits

[neat ruin]

shit talking defaultmando is only truest

[forest widget]

i might have to start shit talking mando if the other new survivor is as busted.. a few survivors are starting to look really weak by comparison

[neat ruin]

altmando has like barely nothing to shit talk about

[zenith obsidian]

nah fuck commando all my homies hate commando

[outer jackal]

I'm not trying to compare it to strafe. I'm saying that compared to how flurry is now, its less shots and slower.
So original flurry is 3×100%
New flurry is 2×140%, and 0.3 seconds longer between shots

[ebon owl]

commando is just really nice to play, his guns are cool, the phase shotgun is epic, the slide is satisfyinh and the nade is great too

[earnest prairie]

powercreep is real

[modest ice]

[edgy birch]

i thought the 1/s meant 0.3 seconds faster

[echo bluff]

yeah default commando suffers from some of the worst power creep issues in the game

only second to default huntress

[native bear]

it's a comfy character when you just want to hold m1

[echo bluff]

yeah

[solid siren]

old flurry:
3x100%
0.7 proc co
1.3s per shots

new flurry:
2x140%
1.0 proc co
1.0s per shots

[outer jackal]

Oh sorry now I see, yes I get it 1/s

[forest widget]

hopoo should do a complete 180 and make the blue egg survivor totally fuckin ass

[edgy birch]

np :)

[echo bluff]

suppressive isn't a dps up after the m1 buff and the stun isn't really worth losing band procs (one of the best greens) and the aoe

[zenith obsidian]

saying this like it isnt gonna be ass already

[stable valve]

is there a mod where i can play a minion not the in game minion i mean the little yellow round creatures from the minions movie

[outer jackal]

Yea sorry that makes sense

[modest ice]

U can get stuns with stun grenades

[woeful gorge]

give him the best designed kit with the worst numbers and expose all the skill issue players

[earnest prairie]

TRUEST

[cinder notch]

Sex 2 in Risk of Rain

[echo bluff]

i mean looking at railgunner i think it's safer to say otherwise

[modest ice]

Who's blue egg survivor

[earnest prairie]

we dont know yet

[woeful gorge]

it's either a crab or an octopus for sure

[forest widget]

freddy fax bear

[native bear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936053761317687336/937779917196787772/pod.gif

this nerd

[echo bluff]

yeah, it was teased at the end of the last dev thoughts though

[outer jackal]

Idk how theres people already saying RG is broken and OP when they literally haven't even played yet

[echo bluff]

13500% 3.0 20s cd

[native bear]

it's actually my left nut

[woeful gorge]

3 proc rate ukulele on 13500% base damage, kill everything

[edgy acorn]

honestly i think this is a good idea and it has worked in the past like 'dan' from the streetfighter games is an intentionally worse version of ryu/ken

[forest widget]

railgunner has underwhelming dps tbh buff honestly

[echo bluff]

the enemy when i hit it with 5 ballistas

[cinder notch]

I mean, I'm not going to be completely ignorant of powercreep

[edgy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-taunt-arm-up-defiance-street-fighter-alpha-gif-18170307

[native bear]

after horrible scarring caused by immense amounts of sulfuric acid

[earnest prairie]

her scoped m1 deals more damage than the entirety of huntress ballista

[echo bluff]

i think that's false

[modest ice]

There is no stabby stabby character in ror2

[echo bluff]

but two of them do

[earnest prairie]

1000% base + 500% perfect reload + weakspot crit

[forest widget]

make him acrid but worse 😈

[echo bluff]

holy fucking shit it's 1k% base without the crit?

[woeful gorge]

what do people think about him there

[outer jackal]

Wait wut

[earnest prairie]

im pretty sure 1sec ill doublecheck

[echo bluff]

supercharger stats

13500% damage, 3.0 proc coefficient

[native bear]

isn't the m2 400%?

[cinder notch]

compared to Loader, I don't think Railgunner is OP just based off numbers. That's compared to Loader though lmao

[woeful gorge]

the only thing that i think would break railgunner is aoe procs like meathook and ukulele