gd1-nullified

[signal cipher]

Stand right next to mithrix when he does the attack

[native bear]

stand directly on the point where they converge for an easteregg

[earnest prairie]

be directly on top of him

[swift current]

or get far away that also works

[fringe charm]

Yeah you can see Contact Light if you get hit by all of them at once

[signal cipher]

Did you know that revolving doors has a range limit?
On console he doesn't go back to the middle so he often starts the attack in a random point of the map and you can dodge all of the attacks by being really far away

[native bear]

console

it's an entirely different game at this point

[swift current]

based

[signal cipher]

Yeah it's ror2 kaizo version

[swift current]

wait wha how what

[native bear]

that knife

[signal cipher]

That looks horrifying

That looks like an oversized bug

[fringe charm]

Because you get sent to the stratosphere

[swift current]

DELET THIS THATS UGLY

[native bear]

https://tenor.com/view/gup-risk-of-rain2-risk-of-rain-gaming-gif-24621129

[signal cipher]

I needed to get that off my screen

[gaunt cedar]

remind you of yourself too much

also its cute

[fringe charm]

[swift current]

yeah, and that kinda reminds me of your parents

[rotund pasture]

remove this off my screen

[signal cipher]

Alternative ending: you tank a revolving door hit on purpose to break through the arena's energy field and meet the rescue ship halfway

[native bear]

you WILL stare at gup

[signal cipher]

Ew

[native bear]

https://tenor.com/view/rolo-cadburys-chocolate-retro-sweets-gif-13222984

[swift current]

[earnest prairie]

based

[remote quartz]

cringe

[signal cipher]

Based

[swift current]

just like your mom

[rotund pasture]

i will report you for toxicity

[native bear]

cry about it

[upbeat quest]

[signal cipher]

I committed mass genocide on bugs since I was a little kid

I'm probably going to hell if it exists

[remote quartz]

imagine getting that pressed over bugs

[swift current]

my man 🤝

[earnest prairie]

spiders are the based arthropods

[remote quartz]

literally threatened by something harmless

[signal cipher]

Yes.

[swift current]

spiders are cring and ugly and i dont like them and they should be extinct

[earnest prairie]

spiders are cool

[swift current]

no

theyre C W I N G E

[earnest prairie]

camel spiders 🤩

[swift current]

ugly

[signal cipher]

I simply don't like how bugs were developed and implemented into the game
Very unbalanced

[remote quartz]

🤨

[earnest prairie]

scrumptious

[remote quartz]

get help

[swift current]

that furry pfp is going to make me crush your balls with a sledgehammer

[earnest prairie]

word of advice to every gd1er out there

[native bear]

dip something in sulfuric acid

[earnest prairie]

something egg-shaped

[rotund pasture]

dip @native bear in sulphuric acid

[simple sun]

gd1s balls when they realize the new stage is called Sulfur Pools

[swift current]

something that pee is being stored in

[native bear]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-gif-24552199

[swift current]

time to dip me balls 😎

[earnest prairie]

wolfo is seventeenuncles alt account

[native bear]

the eighteenth uncle

[earnest prairie]

real

[neat ruin]

mfw cant even read the steam page of the dlc

[restive pine]

would i be able to encounter the pearl printer thingy if i have command on?

[rotund pasture]

no

[restive pine]

yeah

[swift current]

im going to dip my balls in molten lava brb

[native bear]

not sulfuric acid smh

[earnest prairie]

never let pointless activities ("reading") waste your time and interrupt your grind

[restive pine]

oh darn

thanks

[simple sun]

they don't spaw with Command

[swift current]

yes

[stable sorrel]

never let pointless activities ("gd1") waste your time and interrupt your grind

[earnest prairie]

ACTUALLY TRUEST

[swift current]

92.27.488.291

[stable sorrel]

Agree, and that's why I play guitar

[swift current]

this is literally a random number i am not doxxing anyone

[stable sorrel]

do as I say, not as I do.

[earnest prairie]

don't grow up like us kids

[stable sorrel]

I do that sometimes too

[native bear]

i'm slowly approaching the first thousand

[solid siren]

[swift current]

amogus sus sussy balls when imposter sus jerma trolling

[native bear]

so true!

[earnest prairie]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/926598906568122388/image0-18.gif

[swift current]

yes

[hidden saddle]

L + ratio + GMT-8

[hidden saddle]

34.45588626 N 21.83974004 W

[swift current]

we are transforming gd1 into twitter

[stable sorrel]

someone from gd1 has to do it too

[native bear]

yeah but like what are you gonna do with a massive limestone tablet buried underground

unearth it yourself?

[hidden saddle]

transcribe all of gd1 onto a rock

[rotund pasture]

mfw im being convinced that purity makes atg proc in 1/4 chances

[earnest prairie]

if gd1ers do that itll just be bungus gup woolie huntress bad ion surge crowdfunder 100% damage

[native bear]

13500% 3.0

[swift current]

full name: John White
adress: New York city, creek street, suite 191

[earnest prairie]

that one is based

[stable sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-nyn-communism-nazrin-gif-22747633

[swift current]

DoB: march 11, 2001

[hidden saddle]

8368 7460 1049 2883
248
05/22

[native bear]

this one of u?

[earnest prairie]

most likely

[low hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-gif-24594157

[simple sun]

13500% 3.0 is incredibly low for the fact you're defenseless for a whole 5 seconds, this game is all about speed

[earnest prairie]

TRUEST

[native bear]

EXTREMELY low

[topaz onyx]

guys. we just hit 10% of the year.

[stable sorrel]

Woolie when Railgunner comes out

[native bear]

like crunder

[hidden saddle]

its about DRIVE its about POWER we stay HUNGRY WE DEVOUR

[native bear]

blast shower main try not to suggest dumb interaction challenge

ben raincoat bands op!!!!!!

[topaz onyx]

add bandolier

[earnest prairie]

im not even a railgunner hater
i want to be a railgunner enjoyer
but if she oneshots jesus christ himself with her damn supercharge she just wont be enjoyable

[stable sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-touhouproject-remiliascarlet-gif-23474149

[simple sun]

Attack speed makes the reboot time faster so idk how Blast Shower doing that would be overpowered

[simple sun]

Bandcoat ain't real sorry bud

[native bear]

i know

i am poking fun at the clowns who think otherwise

[earnest prairie]

"balnce is irevelevant in a pve game loleeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XDDD"

sigh

[simple sun]

about half the people that are part of the meme are just doing it for fun

[rotund pasture]

Blastorox
Balance is irrelevant in Risk of Rain 2

[hidden saddle]

#ror2-feedback-and-ideas when
new lunar item: blast shower 2
deletes all enemies and removes your hitbox permanently for all runs and gives you woolie mr streamer cooldown of idk 88 millimeters

[swift current]

that's a nice argument
unfortunately, it appears that i might have had sexual intercourse in your mother in the earlier 24 hours, impregnating her

[harsh ravine]

how do i get charater roles ?

[rotund pasture]

it's okay they will just nerf her

he doesnt know

[earnest prairie]

like they nerfed loader mhm yeah right
like they buffed huntress definitely uh huh on god

[earnest prairie]

#role-assignment

[native bear]

clearly the best course of action is to harass the hopoo twitter account

[stable sorrel]

they did TRY to buff Huntress a bit

[stable sorrel]

so true oomfie

[rotund pasture]

ended up nerfing commando

[harsh ravine]

thx, i did't saw that 😄

[stable sorrel]

Well no overall he got a buff in Anni update

they just nerfed his worst ability for some reason

[native bear]

nade physics are a travesty

[rotund pasture]

roll isnt his worst ability

[earnest prairie]

watch them say the exact same thing for sniper

[hidden saddle]

as funny as railgunner unbalanced is has anyone actually seen the video of the simulacrum gameplay

[rotund pasture]

watch them buff sniper

[rotund pasture]

yeah suncles uses the nonscope m1 twice in the video

[simple sun]

You haven't even seen her alt skills

[rotund pasture]

thats the buff

[simple sun]

All straight upgrades

[stable sorrel]

imagine a situation where they are all upgraded ye

GD1 seething

[rotund pasture]

people still love huntress because MOBILITY OH MY GOD SHE DOESNT HAVE TO AIM HOLY SHIT OP

[native bear]

nah i'd love that

[rotund pasture]

and people didnt really hate rex

[simple sun]

nobody cares about the auto aim except the people that irrationally hate it

[trim quiver]

Huntress sux

[rotund pasture]

as much as the introduction of the alt shift just made people llove him so much more because it was op

[stable sorrel]

it has pros and cons

[fast wolf]

odd question, how on earth do people complete this game on monsoon. I struggle stage 1

[topaz onyx]

gonna be honest with you, i hate that i don’t have to aim with huntress. i almost always miss my target when in a boss fight

[rotund pasture]

[hidden saddle]

simply improve

[topaz onyx]

luck, 500 hours

[earnest prairie]

the state of certain survivors is a PART of the game's most pressing issue
i.e. overall balance (or lack thereof)
it includes more than just survivor balance
elites being just bullet sponges with 128x damage, the game's damage overall being just incredibly bloated, all of that
what we are seeing with railgunner numbers is a testament

[native bear]

reingunner is just balanced around every enemy being a malachite

[earnest prairie]

reingunner is balanced around not picking up items 😼

[simple sun]

Simply raise the level cap to 999 making all enemies have 9.6x the damage and health

[topaz onyx]

zipper what’s that game you’re playing rn

[native bear]

cookie clicker

[topaz onyx]

no

[simple sun]

Anyone who hates looping right now will despise it only more once SotV hits

yeah it's called SotV

[rotund pasture]

looping is balanced if you get no items

[simple sun]

The raise to the level cap will overall making Looping less stupid and instantly winnable but the massive stat inflation is just part of the game

[hidden saddle]

looping is unfun because you do not get to play

[stable sorrel]

until you get one hit by a brASS contraption

[topaz onyx]

bo womp

[topaz onyx]

amen

[native bear]

tldr

[simple sun]

I just hope the new final boss calms all these people down instead of rallying them up even more

With all the lessons learned from Mithrix he gotta be better

[native bear]

good thing void fields is getting changed in sotv

[stable sorrel]

honestly agree about void fields and am hoping they adjust it slightly in this DLC

[earnest prairie]

like dude big spinny is mithrix's only dangerous attack and it immediately brings you to osp levels
same with hammer smash but it's a piss easy attack to avoid
and it's the exact same thing with everything
you get hit once -> you are almost dead immediately
which devalues a lot of defensive items VERY hard
it would be a much more engaging experience if enemies had attacks that were harder to predict and dodge but would hurt less
like bru

[gusty oar]

deep rock galactic!

[fast wolf]

i see, im struggling to do classic 😦

[topaz onyx]

“that don’t even think loader is the best character”

[simple sun]

Changed to deal more damage lol doubt there's more than that

[hidden saddle]

DEEP ROCK GA-

[stable sorrel]

void fields is OP and I just don't bother only because it takes too long

[topaz onyx]

what it be?

[rotund pasture]

jumping when

[topaz onyx]

^

[stable sorrel]

it's "9 free items" though it's just however many you want or feel comfortable taking

[native bear]

enough to discourage some people

[earnest prairie]

while yes, those are important issues

as i stated, it isn't JUST the survivor balance, it's the way this game is balanced in general
moreover yes loader isn't the best character it's mul-t

[low hemlock]

God damn you deep rock galactic!

[native bear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/936773002266284092/936305526961242133.gif

[stable sorrel]

agree and I usually forget void fields exists

[hidden saddle]

rock and/or stone

[stable sorrel]

also the version of the song that plays on the stage sucks

[earnest prairie]

but yeah for me personally the 2nd most important issue is void fields being so poorly designed

[gusty oar]

a very based game about space dwarf miners going on different kinds of missions inside the caves of a bug infested planet

[rotund pasture]

people didnt complain on osp people praised osp too much

[low hemlock]

Me when the mule runs away from me when it's low O2

[topaz onyx]

it be good? it be based perhaps? it be roguelike?

[stable sorrel]

it's like a 3 or 4 minute loop of a BUILDUP to a small payoff in a stage that lasts 15 minutes

stinky

[native bear]

[low hemlock]

Horde shooter not roguelike

[topaz onyx]

simulacrum like?

[simple sun]

what is this

[native bear]

void cradle

[simple sun]

wrong answers only

[gusty oar]

idk if you can call it a roguelike because i don't understand game genres but it's really based yes

[topaz onyx]

blood shrine

[low hemlock]

No

[native bear]

i wonder if it's edible?

[stable sorrel]

void cum

[earnest prairie]

2nd new survivor

[swift current]

void reaver pee*

[gusty oar]

golem hitting you for half of your hp

[low hemlock]

It's a first person mission based horde shooter

[hidden saddle]

solus control unit

[rotund pasture]

im glad they kinda balanced glass but i feel like it shouldnt be exponential

[topaz onyx]

ah yes

[swift current]

void reaver shit

[rotund pasture]

never seen that

[native bear]

only time i see people mention osp is when they talk shit about it

[low hemlock]

The dwarves say funny quotes

[stable sorrel]

void reaver peepee, if you will.
void reaver urine, if you may.
void reaver discharge, even.

[earnest prairie]

well yeah stacking glass used to be extremely extremely braindead

and OSP's existence in general is yet another proof of the game's IMMENSE damage bloat
like of course we need some form of safety net when lategame a single attack deals several times your hp bar
and THAT is the problem

[swift current]

tldr: just dont pick up anything with shields or any shaped glass

[low hemlock]

Osp used to matter
Oh wait no it didn't

[swift current]

i want loader to pick me up in her gigantic mech suit arms and throw me into a wall at 20 km/h

[earnest prairie]

because loader has absurd powercreep
look at her passive and then look at commando/huntress passive

oh wait

[stable sorrel]

OSP wasn't necessary for the game imo but the way its implemented makes all hits devolve in the late game

you either have OSP up or you don't

[low hemlock]

Wait what 😳

[stable sorrel]

and that's all that matters

[native bear]

if you had 1 hp you'd die instantly

[stable sorrel]

raw HP and damage values become irrelevant

[native bear]

you'd need 2 at least

[rotund pasture]

he doesnt know

[low hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-gif-18828547

[swift current]

fun fact: having 128 shaped glass will immediately kill your character

[native bear]

if DO know mf, if you had 1 hp even fall damage would kill you

[hidden saddle]

before you figure out osp you get one shot by a brass contraption at 80% health

after you figure out osp you feel safety at 100% health before you get chipped by a wisp and one shot by a brass contraption anyway

[rotund pasture]

he doesnt knoooooow
he hasnt played the glass

[swift current]

protocol 4: eradicate women

[native bear]

not how osp works

[signal cipher]

20km/h is way too slow for loader

She could yeet your ass at 100km/h easily

[woven shale]

Like 50 is good

[swift current]

i prefer that

[rotund pasture]

did you know what despite the game telling you were at 1 hp truly you were way lower than that

[stable sorrel]

I love Loader

funn

[signal cipher]

Of course you would

[rotund pasture]

i love loader with strides

[low hemlock]

Pilot, you and I make a good team.

[woven shale]

I Load lover

[swift current]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-very-poor-choice-words-gif-22861860

we live in a loaderciety

[hidden saddle]

haha 4:20 AM

[rotund pasture]

old osp didnt include curse

[swift current]

bro where you livin my clocc is showing 1:20

[hidden saddle]

a different timezone

[swift current]

rex>>>sex

[winged ferry]

ok so

[native bear]

why is health a float value

[signal cipher]

Litetally not possible stop lying

[rotund pasture]

and loader just oneshots

[topaz onyx]

wait how does relic of mass + shaped glass work with osp? does it cancel out?

[winged ferry]

what does it mean when "the bulwark begins to crumble" ?

[solid siren]

ok but the good players thought he was op

[hidden saddle]

(real)

[signal cipher]

Lunar chimera family event

[swift current]

stop stealing posts from reddit you dingus, it's basically copypasta

[solid siren]

hence why he got nerfed a lot

[rotund pasture]

you get half of your hp cursed then double the hp

[winged ferry]

what does it mean cannon-wise?

[signal cipher]

Uh nothing I think

[topaz onyx]

yeah but does it give you osp?

[swift current]

no

[signal cipher]

No idea why mithrix would send down his chimera on the planet

[solid siren]

[rotund pasture]

except it does because it kills the boss

[topaz onyx]

w h a t

[simple sun]

Honestly just straight up anti cannon

[winged ferry]

why is there a bulwark
what is it doing
why is it faltering

[remote quartz]

glhf

[topaz onyx]

3 second longer cool-down for 0.5 PROC?

[simple sun]

Bulwark is Providence

[winged ferry]

thx

[rotund pasture]

and? its not like you cant kill enemies after you kill the boss

[atomic sparrow]

does the healing on rex's r scale on attack speed

[simple sun]

he's dead and his magic is fading

[winged ferry]

providence is dead tho

[swift current]

compile that with 4 atg stacks and a hitbox bigger than saturn's orbit and you're in for a hell of a proc chain

[signal cipher]

Oh fr? Ong? Just like that? Deadass?

No cap?

[native bear]

gd1 actually discussing the game?

[hidden saddle]

no he's captain

[winged ferry]

but if bulwark = providence, then why is it faltering now?

[swift current]

no cap

[rotund pasture]

i will personally fix gd1

[native bear]

https://tenor.com/view/mgr-metal-gear-rising-rock-rockcustom-sam-gif-24643451

[signal cipher]

We been doing that for a while

[swift current]

lmao

[signal cipher]

Way before railgunner tbh

[rotund pasture]

do you know what curse means

[fast wolf]

is acrid good?

[rotund pasture]

yes

[signal cipher]

Curse as in it removed osp

It was not curse back then
Just removal of hp

[winged ferry]

i'll assume its just a random event and i wont look into it

[rotund pasture]

curse is the part of your bar that looks like glass

[fast wolf]

ah okay,ty

[earnest prairie]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell

1. this shows that new characters are just flatly leagues above the rest of the cast which is kinda annoying and is the definition of powercreep
2. i have my own grievances about loader's design tbh
   namely
   a) her not actually being a slow and powerful bruiser and instead a bullet train that can hardly be classified as a melee character
   b) loader gets really repetitive lol
   c) the main form of skill expression on loader (grapple) isn't even necessary to steamroll the game
   that's just my opinion tho

like i dunno you look at loader and see the passive of 1. no fall damage (and you could argue that loader already has enough tools in her kit to prevent said fall damage so that safety net isn't entirely necessary) and 2. free barrier on every attack bar pylon just for existing
and then you look at other characters and become kinda sad

[simple sun]

Curse wasn't a thing before 1.0

[swift current]

Trick question: what do bramble volley's hitbox and your mom have in common?

[signal cipher]

All family events are like this to be fair

[winged ferry]

im just wondering why the enemies have a different coloration too

[swift current]

glass curse is glass curse and the only way to remove it is losing the glass somehow

[native bear]

racism

[signal cipher]

How different?

Are you playing on console

[swift current]

fun fact: when a stone titan spawns on abandoned aqueduct it has a diffrent model

[solid siren]

hold up

[winged ferry]

no, on pc, non-modded

[signal cipher]

I think you meant different texture?

[simple sun]

It's a different skin

just like survivors

[swift current]

no. The plant meshes are removed and replaced with sand

[signal cipher]

Well the chimera can be normal or perfected which is their exclusive elite type

[signal cipher]

Oh sick

[winged ferry]

the only one that looks different is the lunar chimera golem

[signal cipher]

Is it like blue with a giant halo

[winged ferry]

its a lot whiter than usual

[native bear]

lighting

[signal cipher]

Yeah that might be perfected

[winged ferry]

no, its not blue

[signal cipher]

His healthbar should also be completely blue

[analog narwhal]

Why are you still arguing with this individual

[swift current]

imo wisp chimeras are even more op than their mainland counterparts

[winged ferry]

nope, just regular ones

[stable sorrel]

I actually don't fully disagree with the statement, I think to some extent power creep IS inevitable as game designers just get better at designing systems. A simple character like Mando will always pale in comparison to Bandit unless Mando just had higher numbers to compensate for his lack of mechanics. You see this kind of thing in League of Legends often.

[signal cipher]

Well I have no idea now
Artifacts?

[winged ferry]

lemme grab a screenie

[analog narwhal]

no I mean why is he still arguing with you

[signal cipher]

Yes please for the love of god do

[stable sorrel]

I think they need to go back and revise older characters though and keep them on par with the newer ones if they want to go the route they are going though

[signal cipher]

[rotund pasture]

Loader's identity as a slow moving tank is a perception only held by the community and not the devs
The Loader is a slow but powerful bruiser

[analog narwhal]

Powercreep is hard to avoid but it doesn’t need to be so steep 👍

[rotund pasture]

literally quoting the game

[topaz onyx]

post that into the paladins discord pls

[analog narwhal]

i don’t think mando needs crazy insane buffs but huntress should get looked at
mando just needs his other abilities to be closer to his alts

[rotund pasture]

oh now youre saying devs are wrong

[stable sorrel]

League of Legends players agree with me; my entire perspective on power creep basically CAME from League.

[remote quartz]

me when I'm in a multiplayer lobby with a railgunner and I'm wondering where all the fucking bosses are

[analog narwhal]

i don’t need huntress to be reingunner power level
but I need her to be mando level

[simple sun]

The description for Loader is probably from like earlier in development

[simple sun]

Since she seemed to be pretty different in Loader Beta

[simple sun]

That's just perfected

[signal cipher]

Hey chat
If roll had 2 charges by default would you consider it over slide

[winged ferry]

ah

[swift current]

yes and they should also give him an m1 alt because pathetically poking away at a stone titan on stage 1 with hardly any items is not fun in my opinion

[topaz onyx]

“slow” literally the best survivor to speedrun

[simple sun]

No

[analog narwhal]

Nah his base needs to be improved
just because he’s first doesn’t mean his abilities should be shut

[signal cipher]

If the health bar was not blue then it was from the tp fight RIGHT

[analog narwhal]

literally phase round doesn’t even work properly if you’re up close because it has some weird auto targeting bs

That’s how you get weird ass angles when you use it point blank

[swift current]

say that to a bandit main and they will literally crucify you

[signal cipher]

Oh I can make a meme out of this

[analog narwhal]

And from a distance that auto aim doesn’t matter anyways so

[simple sun]

Idk dude HAND OVERCLOCKED BETA is a pretty good mod

[analog narwhal]

it should just be removed

[topaz onyx]

i tried han-d for one second and it felt wrong (atleast in ror2)

[analog narwhal]

No you fucking don’t

[swift current]

i was talking ror1 bandit vs current bandit

[analog narwhal]

Have you played a game with unlockables at all

[simple sun]

not really

[native bear]

about as much as in ror1

[rotund pasture]

no what

[analog narwhal]

what kinda take is that
the incentive for unlocking shit is new ways to play and new ways to interact with the game world, never a straight power increase

[fast wolf]

why on multipayer was i just not sapwned in?

[remote quartz]

can't tell if you're trolling so good job I guess

[earnest prairie]

while rex is also overloaded as shit, he is at least somewhat more challenging to play than the simpler survivors
like
i'm okay with a character having more features than others, it is, as you said, what contributes to making the character interesting and enjoyable
which is exactly where i reach a bump with loader
rex is stronger than other characters, but difficult
loader is just stronger
which is why the powercreep on her seems so much more glaring and obvious

on top of that, there's nothing stopping them from making the already released characters more interesting as well

i keep bringing this up but take a look at huntress or commando
yes, they are intended to be simple characters, but it looks like they are meant to be just tools to unlock other cooler kids and then thrown away and forgotten
which i really really hate
like they could have had pretty simple passives like, idk, getting slightly more attackspeed or some neat little mechanic that wouldn't make them too overloaded
but it would have made them feel more special and unique

the whole meme about loader being a slow but powerful bruiser comes from loader's own ingame description so like lol

[native bear]

tl;dr

[swift current]

they should bring enforcer back, or at least give the lad a spiritual succesor

[rotund pasture]

tldr

[analog narwhal]

He’s gotta be trolling me
because I can promise you the first thing on your mind when unlocking something new isn’t “ok I will be stronger” it’s “ok I can’t wait to see what this can do”

[simple sun]

hey mine was a joke smh

[swift current]

lmao

[rotund pasture]

nope sorry youre a criminal now

[analog narwhal]

Wolfo collateral

[earnest prairie]

sacrifices have to be made

[stable sorrel]

literally fake meme

nice try

[analog narwhal]

No they wouldn’t

[stable sorrel]

sewing division and chaos amongst our ranks to serve your own interests

[rotund pasture]

no lol

[simple sun]

Just edit woolie over my picture it'll be less fake

[remote quartz]

me when I'm incentivized to not play a survivor good game design I guess

[analog narwhal]

zimbel is a plant I see now

[stone oar]

13500% ?

[analog narwhal]

rex plays different and has different synergies
that’s why you play rex

[signal cipher]

Yeah it's a funky number

[rotund pasture]

the damage of supercharge

[stone oar]

whats supercharge

[rotund pasture]

based

[signal cipher]

Rex requires you to have good anxiety management when you play him for the first few times

[earnest prairie]

they would have ample reason to explore other characters

but they would also have a reason to actually choose what they like
and if they like the default characters like mando they would have a more enjoyable time playing that character

what is this take

[signal cipher]

I can see why a lot of people drop him

[analog narwhal]

If the first thing incentivizing you to pick something else is “wow what I’m currently using sucks immensely” that’s not incentive that’s bad game design

[gusty oar]

railgunner's special skill

[stone oar]

ok

[frigid trench]

New character’s special

[analog narwhal]

If the default sucks that means it should be adjusted or simply deleted
It makes no sense to have such a poor introduction to any game

[stone oar]

imagine actually thinking a character is worse than another

[swift current]

it makes you instantly delete verything you right click on

[rotund pasture]

dont have to think its real

[stone oar]

how so

[topaz onyx]

ngl, sniper doesn’t seem like a character that i would play too often on single player.

[rotund pasture]

whos sniper

[topaz onyx]

wait.

[remote quartz]

paying for content I want to explore and enjoy but instead it's just broken beyond belief ok

[native bear]

isn't sniper in ror1?

[swift current]

sniper deez nuts

[native bear]

this is the ror2 discord

[rotund pasture]

yeah sniper is a ror1 survivor

[frigid trench]

Sniper? I hardly even know her

[stone oar]

this new guy is sniper bruh

[topaz onyx]

@edgy acorn will railgunner be able to zoom in and out?

[frigid trench]

nice ping

[analog narwhal]

I wasn’t talking about RoR2 specifically I was saying in general

[native bear]

did you miss the 2 whole trailers

[edgy acorn]

only in the way you've already seen't

[stone oar]

every character is good in their own ways it all depends on how you want to play the game

[analog narwhal]

For the type of game this is defaults aren’t unplayable
but they don’t work very well and should at least be adjusted to just work nicely

[signal cipher]

Seen't is so cursed

[swift current]

ayo wait a sec you pinged H I M

[edgy acorn]

its not a variable zoom scope

[native bear]

hello mr. suncles

[edgy acorn]

hi

[earnest prairie]

i can see where ur coming from about huntress having agile as her passive so eh fair enough

but

huntress is described as a bounty hunter in her lore entry
so maybe she could get more gold from more dangerous enemies? like, t1 elites having an idk 1.1x multiplier, bosses having 1.5x, t2 elites having maybe 1.8x
just something along those lines could tie neatly into her lore as well

commando, since he has twin guns, maybe could get slightly more attackspeed from items

they don't have to be gamechanging, just something neat to make the character feel just a bit more special

[topaz onyx]

so no rein sniper 100x scope?

[rotund pasture]

will railgunner be rebalanced to be at the opness of huntress

[swift current]

hello

[analog narwhal]

like phase round weird auto targeting thing
huntress M2 being deleted

[topaz onyx]

thx for answering!

[signal cipher]

🤔

[stone oar]

if other characters were better based on their stats then you could argue that artifact of command is good and sacrifice

[simple sun]

last thing gd1 sees on march 1st

[swift current]

what the frick

[woven shale]

Silly ṉitro nerd

[swift current]

nito

[native bear]

nitra over here

[analog narwhal]

Not being good and Overwhelming are two different things
making a complicated kit is overwhelming
not being good is it’s own sin. It doesn’t need to be insane op like idk what you’re thinking

Removing the jank would be a huge help

Numbers can come later even

[swift current]

if the second character you start with didnt have the auto aim there would be a lot more mains to the afforementioned character

it got past lets go

[analog narwhal]

I’m not saying mando or huntress need to be more complicated and not a single soul has expressed desire for that

[woven shale]

You only just figured out gd1 is not casual? Yikes

[analog narwhal]

I’m talking straight improvements to what is already there not new mechanics

[frigid trench]

So just like damage buffs?

[analog narwhal]

Phase round not going way the fuck off at point blank isn’t gonna overwhelm a new player
I’d prefer damage buffs and jank removal is all

[stable sorrel]

Me when I instantly kill God with one shot as Railgunner.
As his falls to the ground the lifeless ethereal body makes only a faint sound. Railgunner reflects on these actions before turning around to see a man standing at the pearly gates holding a tome.
"About time we balanced the scales, don't you think old friend?"
He opens his tome and from it spews a load of C# lines across the arena.
"N-no!" The Railgunner cries, "we sealed you away! You were gone!"
The man simply smiles and nods at the Railgunner.
"Yes. But my people needed me: needed me to end your reign of terror!"
Before Ghor is able to end this fight for good, his is shot in the back. From behind his corpse, SeventeenUncles emerges from the fog.
"So what kinda GD1 moment is this 13500% about then? You think railgunner is bad cos u did some MATH?"
SeventeenUncles nods his head and tilts his hat at the flabbergasted Railgunner.
"Carry on, champ."
And so gd1 forever lived under the tyrannical boot of power creep, and any who dared questioned the new world order was immediately 13500% 3.0'd.
(WORST END)

[woven shale]

Would you rather small changes to current characters or new characters tho

[stable sorrel]

@shy kindle

[earnest prairie]

bro stop speaking like all you say is fact you aren't the smart one sorry

starting characters have all the right to be good
because
picture this
you unlock a new character, but you enjoyed playing the default one, but the default one is just plainly worse than what you unlocked
so you want to play the default character
but it's weak. that's exactly the situation you were describing but vice versa
it isn't great design either way
which is why it would be ideal for characters to be of SIMILAR power level
yes, some will always be stronger than other and it's impossible to achieve perfect balance, but overall closer to eachother would be great

starting characters should be SIMPLE, not WEAK
because simplicity of design allows new players to focus on learning the game itself in the grand scheme of things instead of taking half an hour just to read the survivor's base kit
there's a difference

[analog narwhal]

We can have both what kinda question is this

I’d love for the new characters to also be looked at after release if there’s anything wrong or bad for no reason

[signal cipher]

Both
Both is good

[earnest prairie]

i can see why people are gravitated towards huntress
mainly it's her blink at least IMO
and hell i have to admit ballista DOES feel hella satisfying to use

[rotund pasture]

alts should be sidegrades not pure upgrades

[frigid trench]

Yeah phase round buff

[analog narwhal]

Again this is the limit as to what we are asking lmao

[stable sorrel]

I suspect most people play the game on drizzle or rainstorm with command after they have unlocked it so general polls make it hard to gauge a survivor's viability

[earnest prairie]

alts should be sidegrades, not upgrades (lextre beat me to it crying about it)
alts are meant to give you OPTIONS to customize your experience, not strictly better options

[analog narwhal]

phase round should be comparable to phase blast when used properly but it’s not and that’s a problem

[signal cipher]

This is very true

[analog narwhal]

Partly because it’s weak and partly because it’s so hard to use in the first place

[woven shale]

I just like huntress cause I play fast and also controller and most of all, she’s fun

[remote quartz]

3.0

[woven shale]

t!selfrole get fun

[midnight socket]

Selfrole Manager

Role Given

You have given yourself the <@&638787883422973953> role!

dontlookatthetrees#8655

[signal cipher]

As a huntress main I can say that loader does easily stomp through the game but you can easily make a few mistakes during the mithrix fight that add up and kill you

[remote quartz]

me when I get meat hook as sniper

[topaz onyx]

t!selfrole get nailgun

[midnight socket]

Role not found!

Please try again!

galaxyf0x#2213

[swift current]

is it a good idea to threaten seventeenuncles with doxxing his ip and revealing it to the entire world unless he reveals all the info about the dlc to us?

[woven shale]

I’m gonna miss bugged meathook

[remote quartz]

probably bannable but yes

[woven shale]

Been a good few years

[analog narwhal]

This is right at a certain point
i think any totally new loader player will fold at the moon but with her passives and natural bulk you can quite literally mash your keyboard into a group of enemies and make it out 9.9999/10

[ember matrix]

cant wait to get 57 leaf clover on a 3.0 proc railgunner 13.500% damage attack while having 1 stack of atg!"

[analog narwhal]

And I’ve literally seen this happen

[signal cipher]

Yep

[swift current]

also

[analog narwhal]

not avoiding attacks just continuing to land m1 hits into a mob is enough

[chilly kite]

Hitting flying enemies with loader is painful

[earnest prairie]

oh my fucking god

alright let's get back to that topic again despite you wanting to move away from it multiple times beforehand

if both abilities have the same cooldown, which is LONGER than their casting animation and end lag, they are equally spammable
that is the case for both neurotoxin and bite

if we take purity into account, that changes slightly because now it's reliant on the static 0.5s cd
even then, bite doesn't have THAT massive post-cast window

in melee range you can stack blight significantly faster than at range, because you have leap to add extra stacks. if you have purity, leap's cooldown is also shorter. you were trying to argue that stacking blight is somehow easier to do from range, which is ???????

[chilly kite]

Multiple Wisps atleast

[ember matrix]

tfw visions of heresy is good on railgunner 😳 (if you hate its giant auto aim and want a smaller cone

[solid siren]

big dps upgrade

[woven shale]

[frigid trench]

Hooks railgunner

[topaz onyx]

brb gonna take hooks on railgunner

[earnest prairie]

we can have a good starter

because if we have a good alt character this raises THE EXACT SAME QUESTION
why use the other ones?

[topaz onyx]

theft

[frigid trench]

I like the way you think

[native bear]

ruingunner

[analog narwhal]

I don’t think the difference is that small
i want some huntress buffs so she can be more fun to play too
it’s not solely from a “osjdheiwhr eunbalance!!/!/!:” it’s because she would be more fun to play if she was stronger

[chilly kite]

🛤️ 🔫

[signal cipher]

Railgunner is the new simply because people don't want to be that op

[frigid trench]

supercharge works without the scope so honestly wouldn’t be completely awful, just awful

[ember matrix]

heretic try to die with transendence challenge

[rotund pasture]

none of commandos are preference
for huntress only the m1 is preference
for bandit his m1 and m2 are preference and lights out is kinda useless
MUL-T is pretty much perfect but give something to scrap launcher
only engi turrets are preference
for arti only m1 is preference
merc is good
for rex you take all plant but i guess alt m2 can work
loder
for acrid almost anything works
captains beacons are okay and diablo is kinda eh

[woven shale]

Console issue

Oh wait

[earnest prairie]

somehow easier to do from range
meant to say FASTER there my bad

[analog narwhal]

We won’t get the depth I want on the base cast
but they could at least be stronger and have some jank removed so they’re more fun to play

[ember matrix]

huntress utility not preference? what are you?
a heretic main?

[signal cipher]

A lot of huntress players say that shift is preference too because muhhh verticality

[earnest prairie]

i literally just spewed out a wall of text for you

[woven shale]

Facts? They are opinions

[rotund pasture]

triple blink is kinda much better than normal one

[solid siren]

yea

[rotund pasture]

flarmer

[analog narwhal]

It has more damage potential than ballista but considering rex has the same thing with a .5 I don’t think that’s totally comparable

[ember matrix]

yeah but normal blink can be much better in late game, and once you get afterburner or go into shitrix fight without any hopoo feathers or something then it gets even better

[analog narwhal]

Rex legit has buffed arrow rain

[rotund pasture]

@hard verge hi jacob

[remote quartz]

flarmer 🔥 🧑‍🌾

[earnest prairie]

all alts should be options
it's sad that defaultmando and default huntress are so shit
what if i enjoyed using supp fire? too bad it's dogshit

[hard verge]

a

[woven shale]

You make no sense

[stable sorrel]

we need a hero to finally own all of these "skills are preferences" memes with facts and logic

[swift current]

🇳 🇮 🇹 🇷 🇴

[analog narwhal]

Don’t 🤨 his alt M2 or whatever
that seed rain I think it’s called directive drill. It has a .5 proc coefficient

[earnest prairie]

you literally haven't responded to the information presented yet so
in your own words
if that's all you can throw at me im just gonna ignore that sorry

[atomic sparrow]

is there any reason why i should use directive ability on rex

[swift current]

trolling

[solid siren]

tfw no based huntress buffs

[frigid trench]

I think it’s basically agreed upon that we need buffs to things like arrow rain and phase round

[ember matrix]

"i use ion surge, its op!!"

"i prefer flamethrower"

[swift current]

flamethrower is superior

[topaz onyx]

just go all right with its abilities

[woven shale]

🇳🇮🇹🇷tro

[earnest prairie]

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i have also mentioned that bro please i swear

yes, perfect balance is unachievable, but the gap between default and alt skills should not be as massive as it is with huntress and mando

[ember matrix]

artificer glow up

[woven shale]

Wrong flag

[swift current]

IM GONNA SAY THE N WORD

[stable sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-remilia-scarlet-scarlet-touhou-touhou-project-gif-21641035

[swift current]

N

NI

[solid siren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/841754846671798345/932454558226079744/caption.gif

[ember matrix]

nkuhanas

watch yo tone

[topaz onyx]

ninjago

[analog narwhal]

But again I’m probably barking up the wrong tree
I just have hope because hopoo buffed commando m1 so I’m just
huntress please?? Just a crumb

[woven shale]

Your momjago

[analog narwhal]

A crumb of buffs

[signal cipher]

Ñitro

[analog narwhal]

For the lowly base cast

[swift current]

27.19.289.199

[astral lily]

the only character i know of where all of his skills can be viable is merc

[ember matrix]

artificer mains getting a new skill, then realising its dogshit

[topaz onyx]

clears throat no yours

[analog narwhal]

Merc is a solid example of good alts

[earnest prairie]

okay
i will simplify yet again

if neurotoxin and bite have THE EXACT SAME COOLDOWN (two seconds) and their CASTING ANIMATION and END LAG are SHORTER than that cooldown (THEY ARE)
then tell me
HOW is one ability more spammable than the other?

HOW does ranged acrid stack blight better than melee acrid if melee acrid can freely use leap AGGRESSIVELY (something that you discouraged heavily) to apply extra stacks?

[stable sorrel]

Commando feels good

[swift current]

based and redpilled

[woven shale]

Ṉīṯṟō

[rotund pasture]

@13500% flurry 3.0 Watch your language.

[signal cipher]

Merc is just that cool

[swift current]

when i uhhh

[analog narwhal]

Quite correct

[swift current]

when

[earnest prairie]

no, i wouldn't be disappointed
because i would still have a strong and enjoyable character to play regardless of whether or not it was an unlock

[swift current]

me when i

[ember matrix]

tho i prefer ice spike cause funny shitrix cheese, shitone golem freeze

[swift current]

me when the you

[analog narwhal]

Shit merc alt utility being able to get cancelled would be all it needs

[ember matrix]

ice spear* m2

[analog narwhal]

Because only blinding can cancel into M2

[astral lily]

i use all alts except i still use evis over slicing winds cause i prefer the aggro dash and invuln with my playstyle over the damage, but you can easily play all alts, all base, or something in between and be fine

[swift current]

now that nano bobm deals more damage spear has no reason to exist

[astral lily]

merc's the only character in the game i can't complain about really

[ember matrix]

yeah but later on the execute can be useful if you get no gullioshitne

[woven shale]

Based

[abstract stump]

oh hi
do you think metroidvania is for me? i really like fast movement and good platforming rather than combat
dont judge me. i too have played celeste and i played other combat focused game too so

[rotund pasture]

suppfire lowers your dps if you dont perfect cancel it so like
why would you take it unless youre a robot who can perfect cancel it everytime
youre not gonna use round on a normal 6mm which is where the game is mainly balanced

[swift current]

YOU ALREADY HAVE ASKILL FOR THAT

[abstract stump]

ori is probably good for me or something idk

[topaz onyx]

guys can y’all stop discussing the game and be gd1 again? kinda annoying ngl

[ember matrix]

yeah but can it hit a flying malachite brassham conshitraption

[signal cipher]

A shit skill I barely ever use as artificer yes

[woven shale]

True!

[signal cipher]

A skill that I can literally take strides over it because I don't need it

[analog narwhal]

Soup fire is a little underwhelming and I think both specials could be buffed but again
not expecting shit

[ember matrix]

i completely agree later on, but early on funny execute shit golem

[swift current]

reasons to use nano bobm
-more damage
-aoe
-more proc

[analog narwhal]

Ice wall is a good skill don’t let anyone trick you

[signal cipher]

A skill where even with the worst arti loadout you can still get away with not using it properly

[woven shale]

Don’t @ me but buff loader

[swift current]

yes

[signal cipher]

Ice wall is great

[native bear]

no balance changes in sotv

[cerulean zodiac]

Wait is som3one really arguing that nano spear is good?

For real?

[analog narwhal]

Suppressive fire begging you not to pick up a stun grenade

pleading for its life

[swift current]

literally an aoe gulliotine that works on normies too

[abstract stump]

i main everyone except huntress and artificer

[topaz onyx]

better

[woven shale]

This man is seething hard

[ember matrix]

reasons to use ice shitpear:
-piercing (which sometimes works)
-executing the flying bastards (elemental brass, greater wisp)
-haha no firing arc brrr

[astral lily]

i'm glad that within the community every character has a ton of arguments over each other, and then there's the merc mains shaking hands in the corner lol

[earnest prairie]

okay

1. that doesn't account for the situation in which you don't have a backup mag/purity/alien head, i.e. when the abilities have their default cooldown
2. that STILL doesn't account for aggressive usage of leap, that allows melee acrid to stack blight faster

replying to the last message
YOU DON'T LOSE ALL SURVIVABILITY BECAUSE CAUSTIC LEAP HAS TWO CHARGES, SO YOU ARE ABLE TO FIRST USE IT AGGRESSIVELY, THEN DEFENSIVELY

on top of that, if you do that
THEN YOU AREN'T COMPLETELY OUT OF OPTIONS
because 6 seconds is a manageable cooldown, so pandemic -> aggressive leap -> bite -> a couple of melee attacks -> leap to safety will already shave like 3-4 seconds off the cooldown lol
cooldowns are such a neat thing you know they tend TO END

[stable sorrel]

there are plenty of metroidvanias with face paced combat or movement and the like, but that usually isn't the focus of the games.

[native bear]

merc mains inventing new mechanics on the spot

[swift current]

a valid point
unfortunately i had sexual intercourse with your mother

[analog narwhal]

Nade is aoe which helps early game mando a lot
also works very nicely when looping because due to enemy density it’s gonna hit some shit always

[ember matrix]

the cringe nano bomb fan vs the sice shitpear

[cerulean zodiac]

Nano spear users when 10 elite wisps spawn above their head

[ember matrix]

we just run away or die, no inbetween

[woven shale]

It’s really not

[ember matrix]

i used to like nano badm until i used ice spear for more than 3 monsoon runs

[signal cipher]

Badm

[frigid trench]

I think they need to make phase round feel better to use

[stable sorrel]

phase round does less damage outside of specific situations

[ember matrix]

im like the only person to call mithrix "shitrix" because funny artificer ice spear

[stable sorrel]

make the projectile bigger tbh

[analog narwhal]

Phase round is better overall but it feels like crap to use
phase blast just packs so much instant killing power most will pick it instead. I don’t need to do middling damage to 1-2 enemies I’d rather execute something right in front of me instantly

[topaz onyx]

ok

[woven shale]

When you play arti once every solar eclipse

[earnest prairie]

no shit bro
by the time you jump out you will almost have one leap off of cooldown
which allows you to get more distance between the enemies if your safety is a concern as of that moment

[frigid trench]

I’ve always liked the idea that phase round should be like a big beam like in the first game not a small projectile

[ember matrix]

phase round superior late game, no questions asked

[analog narwhal]

What are you talking about

[ember matrix]

mfer going into melee range as commando late game

[abstract stump]

i feel like ori is like that
Ori is good right?

[analog narwhal]

I literally agreed that round has more potential damage

but the targeting is shit and the projectile is shit

[topaz onyx]

so you want supercharge?

[earnest prairie]

bring back cbt

[frigid trench]

Yes

[native bear]

you're using anything other than m1 lategame 💀

[analog narwhal]

This also yes

The weird targeting thing

[ember matrix]

artificers using their flamethrower or m2 for 2 seconds because their m1 is dogshit late game

[analog narwhal]

I’d love an fmj alt skill that’s just phase round but with a set distance that comes out instantly

[native bear]

i'm talking about commando idgaf about the jar woman

[analog narwhal]

“Jar woman”???

[ember matrix]

is that a new category for nsfw websites

[cerulean zodiac]

I haven't used commando since i unlockex his grenade thingy so i dont know wbat you guys are talking about

[woven shale]

I literally did run with arti not too long ago an literally just spammed flame thrower with 4 clovers stage 8

[analog narwhal]

That’s fine

[cerulean zodiac]

Thsnk you

[ember matrix]

ok i can give you 2 things to make it more fun:
stop using command artifact
activate artifact of evolution

[restive pine]

i got irradient pearl first try B)]

[woven shale]

No command and evolution is very fun

[analog narwhal]

@serene terrace yo can we get this
I’ll shut the fuck up I promise

[winged ferry]

Console players wait 5 months for the new update

[ember matrix]

evolution, vengeance only is cool

[frigid trench]

nice ping

[native bear]

mans pinged hopoo himself

it was nice knowing you (not really)

[frigid trench]

will he be smited

[woven shale]

Dev pinging session in action

[misty tundra]

Bye :) @analog narwhal

[analog narwhal]

Mods know I’m here in good faith

what

0 confidence in me and my intentions 💀

[earnest prairie]

alright that IS actually fair
however, melee acrid has a lot more damage (especially burst) than ranged
as in, he can proc bands due to the wider availability of melee, he uses procs better due to not having to rely on poison and bite having more damage for sticky bomb/atg/uke etc.
so you are more likely to have already killed your target LOL
also in case of certain bosses like stone titans for instance they become pushovers once you get close to them in which case you can just chainsaw them and use both leaps offensively

moreover, don't forget leap is also stunning, and can interrupt certain dangerous attacks, like elder lemurian flamethrower, allowing you to be even more aggressive in certain situations

[cerulean zodiac]

Same situation as nazis calling upon the ark in indiana jones honestly

[native bear]

what

[woven shale]

Imagine using command

I got luck

[remote quartz]

Imagine playing on drizzle

[analog narwhal]

If y’all thought that was wild watch this <@&417739751362396160>

[ember matrix]

did you know, the original plan for the national socialists was to deport jews to madagascar and not executing them in camps

[native bear]

this man

[woven shale]

It was a fun run ok

[native bear]

i admire the tenacity

[cerulean zodiac]

The more you know

[analog narwhal]

(It’s cosmetic only)

[swift current]

also, piercing thru a line of beetles is super satysfying

[woven shale]

And I played on monsoon for hours and died cause arti sucks

[remote quartz]

skill issue

[swift current]

arti isnt bad you just didn't git gud

[analog narwhal]

HIFU can you post a beetle conga line

[ember matrix]

it only failed because their enemies destroyed their naval ships, not allowing them to transport their prisoners (jews) to madagascar

[native bear]

arti moment

[ember matrix]

so they went to plan 2

[woven shale]

Maybe, but I have the skin so shut

[stable sorrel]

This really brings a whole new meaning to the Penguins of Madagascar TV show.

[native bear]

gd1 discussing war

[swift current]

ok

[cerulean zodiac]

Then wby did they execute everyone else

[swift current]

GD1 BAD, I SAID IT NOW GIVE ME PRAISE

[ember matrix]

artificer being trapped for days, maybe years next to some newt, a survivor frees them and then they control you and make you ucking die to shitty lesser wisp because they fuckign suck at the game

[stable sorrel]

So true oomfie

[swift current]

the life of arti

[misty tundra]

Apoligise

[ember matrix]

wby

[analog narwhal]

Survivors hoping some shit player doesn’t assume control of them

[remote quartz]

artificer freed from newt only to be put in a jar a moment later

[woven shale]

no.

[misty tundra]

My favourite

[analog narwhal]

Maidmurian occurrence

[ember matrix]

heretic being controlled by any survivor: fuck you
heretic being controlled by captain funny microbots: love you

[misty tundra]

Artificer and huntress jar pog

[cerulean zodiac]

Imagjne getting caught by an extradimensional being just to be sold to some rando for game tokens

[ember matrix]

youtubers

[abstract stump]

anyway is ori good?
I dont really fucking care about the story because the story is literally "cute animal dies" from what i seen
i only care for the platforming and all that shit

[native bear]

moon donuts

[swift current]

hey uhh you know how acrid is in the void fields and he spawns in thru the void fields but arti who was in the bazaar just spawns in thru a drop pod?

weird

[native bear]

magic

[remote quartz]

the gameplay is really fun

[analog narwhal]

Because arti is a person

[remote quartz]

music is amazing at parts

[ember matrix]

newt, dont turn me into a marketable body pillow

[woven shale]

Ahhhhh

[stable sorrel]

I think I've seen a doujin with this plot

[cerulean zodiac]

But he did 😔

[swift current]

yes, but rex isn't a person and he also goes in thru a drop pod

[swift current]

link it over

[analog narwhal]

Rex is weird devs simply didn’t have the time for his special animation

[abstract stump]

nah hollow knight is ok so far
not that much of a combat guy unless its doom or hades but that a totally different beast

[swift current]

they got lazy with mul-t spawn anim

[woven shale]

He cool shut up

[native bear]

box

[swift current]

he is just yeeted onto petrichor in a box

[woven shale]

Running is different

[ember matrix]

rex when he gets a unique animation like mul-shit (never

[analog narwhal]

Rex was an oversight in-lore and in-game

[native bear]

rex is an oversight in his entirety

[ember matrix]

rex is a fun character tho

[cerulean zodiac]

Technically arti shouldnt have a drop anim either

[native bear]

true

[stable sorrel]

Rex is well made and well designed

[swift current]

yes and he has the second best m1 in the game behind cap'n

[ember matrix]

you absolutely destroy these mfing tp bosses early on, and later on you dont have to do shit because funny razorwire

[stable sorrel]

Not much to say about rex because he's fine

[native bear]

flurry

[analog narwhal]

Who is 🤨ing my posts

[swift current]

your mom

[analog narwhal]

I’m gonna start BLOCKING INDIVIDUALS

[cerulean zodiac]

The way I see it rex was being transported on UES CL and was later found powered down by the ror2 crew

[swift current]

hollow knight is a ton of fun and pretty challenging at times

[abstract stump]

i dont care about combat in hk
im just gonna say that
nor in Ori and i dont really care much about the story if the platforming is good

[ember matrix]

"i dont care about the combat"
-plays god of war

[native bear]

#other-games

[ember matrix]

shut up this is gd1

[swift current]

but its also possible for you to stumble into higher level areas by accident

[abstract stump]

that a totally different beast

[analog narwhal]

Reminder

If you see this guy block him

[swift current]

i already have

[stable sorrel]

Play Castlevania symphony of the night that game is heckin based and fun pilled

[earnest prairie]

keep in mind that you also have the acid puddle from caustic leap, which is an added bonus damage against stationary enemies

look im sorry for egoing it before forgive me for that bit
all im trying to get at is that melee acrid is just as viable as ranged acrid because of higher burst, solid survivability due to regen on bite
on top of it, ranged acrid is usually used in conjunction with poison because it makes more sense, so blight + bite allows for higher dot dps in general

idk i have to admit as well this discussion has dragged on for way longer than it realistically should have but i just have to disagree that melee acrid is strictly worse than ranged
ranged is SAFER, which is definitely true, but melee is higher risk/higher reward, which makes it imo a viable choice

[ember matrix]

i unironiclly like huntress in playstyle, because i didnt care about damage back then

[abstract stump]

when the fuck will konami make a good port of it to pc

[swift current]

my man 🤝

[native bear]

circle strafing gets boring after a while

[ember matrix]

tho artificer and rex are like the best playstyle for me

anger women that shoots fire and ice (just maybe some plasma) at you and an error 404 pc

[analog narwhal]

The only reason circle strafing gets boring is because huntress doesn’t kill anything after 7 laps

[woven shale]

When you are a plant that is cared for by a sentient robot and you get ejected from a spaceship by a human trying to save you, and you land in a red desert like area not to be found for years until a thicc red alien thing wearing teddy bears and needles sticking out of them puts some shit in you and you are forced to partially kill yourself to appease some shitty player who dies to a wisp.

[stable sorrel]

Never

Emulate it

[analog narwhal]

When everyone else has killed a few things every time they go around

[native bear]

huntress when the glass cannon isn't glass

[ember matrix]

its like nearly impossible to die to a wisp as rex
wtf

[woven shale]

Ballista

[abstract stump]

but i dont have a fucking controller and that simultaneously make the game worse

[woven shale]

They are really bad

[analog narwhal]

Ballista is on cooldown.

[stable sorrel]

Konami is trash and is content to let their properties rot away

[woven shale]

Run away

[swift current]

which m1 is better
rex: heals on hit and debuffs and does decent dmage
cap'n: if your base dmg is a hundred for instance you will do 8x120 dmg which amounts to around 960 damage assuming all pellets hit at point blank and more with items

[ember matrix]

you can kill wisps with all 4 of your attacks with ease, and half of them dont need to be aimed

[native bear]

circle strafe for 5 minutes

[abstract stump]

metal gear moment

[ember matrix]

i prefer rex cause funny nkuhanas, early on easy survivability

[swift current]

yes, and also ability hp costs

[analog narwhal]

Properties that rot away club meeting
except Metroid, samus is a traitor

[woven shale]

Capns is hitscan and Rex’s is not

[ember matrix]

stop typing long messages it hurts my brain

[analog narwhal]

^

[stable sorrel]

Lol Samus got a good game at least

[analog narwhal]

Exactly

[ember matrix]

i would like to patreon?

[cerulean zodiac]

Question: can poison crit

[woven shale]

No

[swift current]

AIM

[analog narwhal]

No debuff can crit

[cerulean zodiac]

cringe

[stable sorrel]

Imo metroid dread felt lacking compared to the indies though

[analog narwhal]

Rex has 3 shots to miss

[woven shale]

Some times aim is irrelevant

[analog narwhal]

he has it good

[stable sorrel]

However it was still good and I enjoyed it

[swift current]

no but it's enhanced by focus crystal so there is that

[ember matrix]

tfw rex m1 can make a 1000 damage attack go down to 600 damage by just hitting the damn fucker

[abstract stump]

what game are you talking about

[cerulean zodiac]

Metroid dread?

[stable sorrel]

Just generally

[abstract stump]

the indies i mean

[analog narwhal]

I shouldn’t complain we got kid Icarus uprising
game simply needs switch port please nintendo oh my god please port my favorite game of all time to a modern system

[ember matrix]

rex m1 is superior if you want survivabiltiy, captain if you want shitty "i need bleed, its good for my build"

[frigid trench]

hollow knight probably

[stable sorrel]

In general

[analog narwhal]

It’s been like a decade nintendo

[abstract stump]

ori too right?

[woven shale]

“Modern system”

[frigid trench]

19 years

[ember matrix]

fucks who (or what if you are commited enough)

[analog narwhal]

Uprising came out in like 2011 2012

[woven shale]

[analog narwhal]

Unless im wrong

Pretty sure it was 2011 2012

[analog narwhal]

Also true

[ember matrix]

there is a penguin type that has been recorded to fuck the ground

[stable sorrel]

Games like Environmental Station Alpha and Axiom Verge have both put better spins on Metroid as a concept than Dread does and with more content to boot

[analog narwhal]

my monster hunter suffered so you idiot switch players could have a game that doesn’t belong on your system

I’m coping and seething

[ember matrix]

"wrong hole, cappy"

[native bear]

gd1

[solid siren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/897149114989576202/image0-121-2.gif

[native bear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683512574121082940/939563226239229982/caption-17-1.gif

[analog narwhal]

We need state enforced game platform discrimination

[swift current]

neither

[native bear]

you do not get to choose

[swift current]

fuck nintendo

[ember matrix]

(you are satisfied with your path

[solid siren]

13500% 3.0

[swift current]

fifa games

[woven shale]

Okay how do we fuck nentendo

[swift current]

in the ass

[native bear]

8100% 1.8

[abstract stump]

wait should i get like
spiritfarer or something

[ember matrix]

fifa games changing the grass texture to be slightly more detailed and calling it a new game

[analog narwhal]

Shoot them

[tiny loom]

Sup. Im looking for some guides about building huntress, can you recommend me something?

[abstract stump]

that game look fun

[solid siren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/841754846671798345/939874336884555776/motivate.gif

[woven shale]

We approach from behind

[analog narwhal]

(she was hit by the strongest attack in the game)

[stable sorrel]

And while Dread was still good it doesn't have many of the key design innovations we've seen from indies like the ones I mentioned and Hollow Knight or the more roguevanias like Dead Cells or Noita (makers of Noita also made Environmental Station Alpha)

[swift current]

[analog narwhal]

AHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK

[ember matrix]

if there are attacks with 3.0 proc efficiency, then attacks like arrow rain, ballista, diablo strike should get higher proc no doubt

[analog narwhal]

WHOEVER MADE THAT DESERVES A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE

[tiny loom]

imma bit new to the game, thats why im looking for something maybe more complex xD

[native bear]

i don't agree with the meme but it's quality

[solid siren]

@ashen frigate

[analog narwhal]

@ashen frigate I love you so much

[ember matrix]

🤨

[woven shale]

@ashen frigate I love you

[quick sequoia]

Axiom Verge was godlike

[ashen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-incredible-becoming-canny-gif-24636899

[analog narwhal]

Railgunner getting 40% smaller

[native bear]

2700% but you get 3 shots

[stable sorrel]

They did used to be cool

[woven shale]

13500% but 1 back up mag

[stable sorrel]

I still think Dread is a great game and also a fully realized product which is better than Pokémon or every other AAA game from the last year

[woven shale]

O wait it’s the R nvm

[stable sorrel]

Nintendo has never been pro-consumer tho

They have just been neutral

[native bear]

can't wait for ancient scepter to change 13500% 3.0 into 17250% 5.0

[solid siren]

thank god

[stable sorrel]

This isn't Valve

[woeful gorge]

it's already been almost 2 years since doom eternal? wtf

[stable sorrel]

Nintendo did some fucked up shit in the 80 and early 90s and was content to throw Sega under the bus and give into censorship and regulation for no reason

[simple sun]

this isn't risk of rain

[stable sorrel]

Risk of Rain is for the Satan enjoyers

[abstract stump]

yeah

[native bear]

i hope i don't fall

[abstract stump]

is hades also for satan enjoyer

[stable sorrel]

Idk I have mixed feelings on Nintendo but I think they have made some of the greatest games ever

[analog narwhal]

https://fxtwitter.com/sonsakay/status/1490029946793697282?s=21

Now this is AAA gaming

[abstract stump]

same
people call me a fucking grandpa or something for wanting to buy a game and then being able to play the full thing rather than

microtransaction

[swift current]

ok so, glasses because they are mandatory, energy drinks because you do everything when sprinting, ukuleles, will o wisps, gasolines because you have no aoe, atg for damage, predatory for attack speed, monter tooth for heals, 57 leaf clover because its the best item in the game, meathook for aoe, backup mag because your glaive is important, and also some sticky bombs. For skills, m1 is personal preference, pick ballista over arrow rain if you have it, blink is also personal preference

[analog narwhal]

who calling you a grandpa

[ashen frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/939592349573586955/939599418473213992/unknown.png

[stable sorrel]

I just cannot deny that Ocarina of Time or Mario 64 or the Metroid Prime games are great. Some of the best out there.

[abstract stump]

idk almost everyone in my fucking class because they all fucking play genshin and scream 24/7 about their totally rare 5 star character? or something idfk

[analog narwhal]

Oh I forgot it’s quite popular with kids

[stable sorrel]

And Nintendo consoles were a valuable apart of me developing a passion for gaming in the first place. The DS and 3DS are both GOAT

[abstract stump]

most of them are like 13 or 14

[woven shale]

New Vegas

[analog narwhal]

Well you have to consider than 99% of gacha doesn’t actually come with a game you collect jpegs

[swift current]

fuck bethesda

[analog narwhal]

But wow

[stable sorrel]

New Vegas makes me coom with how well written it is

[analog narwhal]

Yo guys have it rough

[woven shale]

It was developed by obsidian 🤨

[analog narwhal]

Back in my day we just talked about brawl

[ember matrix]

genshin impact nfts

[abstract stump]

dude i just boot up my school computer and play hades instead
rather than scream about genshin or something

[analog narwhal]

and uh
idk do sport

[fathom sedge]

👒
👁‍🗨 👁‍🗨

[analog narwhal]

And I guess we had shooters too

[woven shale]

Hi tilted hat

[stable sorrel]

I failed all my ror2 runs today

[fathom sedge]

I'm sorry to hear that

[stable sorrel]

Frelsbadman

[analog narwhal]

I’m surprised about how popular genshin is honestly
i thought your standard nintendo and shooter would be more talked about

But y’all are really like “I can’t speak up about any other game in class because the genshin players will maul me “

times have changed indeed

[fathom sedge]

Mobile Game + Chinese Market, it's a lil weird thinking about gaming outside of America and Europe but we're kind of in a small bubble ngl

[analog narwhal]

Well I was thinking only about in America

[swift current]

but published by bethesda

[analog narwhal]

It’s American popularity truly surprises me

[fathom sedge]

Cool your shit, Zimbel

[ember matrix]

fucked

[abstract stump]

i mean im pretty sure most people havent heard about indie games at all
i remember introducing some of my friend to celeste and enter the gungeon but that it

[woven shale]

Would you say Australia is in that bubble

[ashen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-dance-kitty-kitty-dance-dance-gif-21479771

[swift current]

ayo what are mods doin here>

[remote quartz]

mods moderating??

[fathom sedge]

Probably but like, the edge of it y'know?

[swift current]

me when i eat 2 vitamin gummies instead of 1

[woven shale]

Yeah

[fathom sedge]

Anyway

[stable sorrel]

I stopped caring about what other people think is popular or good when it comes to games. Play whats good since not everything is out there to drain your wallet.

[analog narwhal]

Me suffering from cardiac arrest after eating 2 more vitamin gummies than recommended

[fathom sedge]

Please don't slam down flinstone's gummies

[stable sorrel]

You might have a harder time relating to other epic gamers but who cares

[analog narwhal]

This is exactly what the establishment wants you to think

[stable sorrel]

Gimme fuit gummy

[abstract stump]

dude i remember them mistaking Gungeon for like
fucking soul knight

[fathom sedge]

Gaming bubbles dude, it's wild

[cerulean zodiac]

I really dislike games like genshin impact, apex legends or all the new aaa games. I guess thats why I like ror2 so much

[ember matrix]

i forced terraria onto my friends by playing it and streaming it in discord vc, now they want me to play terraria and i dont want to

[analog narwhal]

Monster hunter wasn’t that popular until recently

[swift current]

nobody asked 😎

[analog narwhal]

In the states

[ember matrix]

im now forcing risk of rain 2 onto them

[fathom sedge]

You think "wow these indie games are wicked mad popular" but you gotta consider that they don't really do TV ads or sometimes even that many online ads in general outside of targeted audiences

[analog narwhal]

Nobody asks you anything
you are alone

[cerulean zodiac]

You just feel when a game was made with passion or not

[abstract stump]

i cannot say that with genshin

[woven shale]

Indie horror has got it sweet, those pesky let’s players

[gusty oar]

https://tenor.com/view/get-get-real-get-fake-cat-kitten-gif-21879998

[analog narwhal]

Fromsoftware is so fucking insane

[stable sorrel]

Quality entertainment is a niche in itself in all mediums.

[analog narwhal]

Talk about a success story

[cerulean zodiac]

Thats cause it was made for money

[winged ferry]

most indie games I play, and love, I found out about from a good friend of mine.

[stable sorrel]

Most people don't have high standards and can have fun with stuff just because their friends are into it

And thats fine imo

[ember matrix]

how to make game:
make a horror game, get lets players somehow to play it, millions of free advertisement
make new game that you actually wanted to do
use money made by horror game for advertisements

[analog narwhal]

Miyazaki and his team just pumping shit out and it keeps selling

[winged ferry]

or I was deep diving on steam/nintendo e shop (back when I played on my switch) and I found some game and went "oh, that looks nice"

[woven shale]

I have gotten 2 people into ror2

[analog narwhal]

This so much

[woven shale]

And 1 into deadbolt

[analog narwhal]

you can play anything if you have a friend

[stable sorrel]

Ain't none if these normies played the game of the year of 2021: Cruelty Squad

[fathom sedge]

Yeah Word of Mouth is a powerful thing

[analog narwhal]

How do you think people played sonic 06

they had a friend

[stable sorrel]

Most people don't care about microtransactions in stuff like genshin

Thats why it works

[woven shale]

China market as well

[abstract stump]

they are ignoring the dumpster fire behind them

[analog narwhal]

Those games are funded by like
the 5% or less that drop a fuckton of money into it

[abstract stump]

anyway yeah i understand

[analog narwhal]

So if anything as a free player
😎

[stable sorrel]

Like I said earlier quality entertainment is a niche. I hesitate to call games art in this conversation but I think they can be.

[analog narwhal]

i don’t hesitate