gd1-nullified

[fallen basin]

it is a WAY better reduction in most cases

[warm flare]

I gotchu

[fathom sedge]

Yoooo argument time?

What's the discussion

[warm flare]

gesture

[worn barn]

which one is better? i just rejoined chat

[fallen basin]

purity. ignoring the downside i mean

[analog narwhal]

Who should be banned first tilted or sai

[fathom sedge]

Sai

[worn barn]

yeah. ignoring the downsides.

[fallen basin]

how should gestures be nerfed

is the discussion

[fathom sedge]

Ah the classic

Here's what I think

And I'll probably catch some flak for saying this

[analog narwhal]

You know this isn’t true

[fallen basin]

if i had a nickel for every lunar whos downside was used as an upside i would have 2 nickels. which isnt a lot but its weird that its happened twice

[dim eagle]

50% less equipment effect but it will become useless i guess

[analog narwhal]

one listens to music the other draws various images

[fathom sedge]

But the issue is not Gesture on its own, rather it's the fact that Equipment is such a dry and depthless mechanic

[warm flare]

wait this is actually good too

how have I never thought of this

[fathom sedge]

No it's not

[steep gust]

_>

[fathom sedge]

If you fire 2 preons but they both deal half damage you didn't change anything

[analog narwhal]

Equipment is your 5th skill
at least currently

[fallen basin]

how does that apply to some equips? what does 50% less of an eccentric vase do

[dim eagle]

It has 1000 m range

[warm flare]

right but it's like sustained damge vs burst or sustained healing vs burst with foreign fruit

[fallen basin]

im sure that halving the eccentric vase range to 500m will do oh so much

[fathom sedge]

How would that work on Recycler

[stable sorrel]

gesture needs a real downside and that downside doesn't have to be related to the equipment slot itself

[dim eagle]

But i guess 50% is too much

What about 25%

[fallen basin]

or like, half a blast shower? half a recycler? half a radar scanner?

[grizzled meteor]

downgrades the recycled item

[fallen basin]

i think it does

[warm flare]

okay okay guess my idea is the best after all who knew

[fallen basin]

1- whites? 2- nobody would want that

[fathom sedge]

Also yeah if I had a dollar for every time someone suggested a lunar item that gave an upside and a downside that cancelled each other out I'd be a rich man for sure

[modest drift]

gup

[fallen basin]

again, every lunars downside is tied to its upside. purity is debatable ig

[grizzled meteor]

whites stay whites, the rest gets downgraded one step

[fallen basin]

ok so nobody would take that ever because thats bad

[analog narwhal]

Transcendence looking at this discussion like 😰

[fallen basin]

worse than recycler gestures as is

[tiny summit]

fuck i suck at merc

[grizzled meteor]

unless we are going cauldron logic in which case whites would be red and thats not really balanced

[fallen basin]

the downside of transcendence is that since your hp is entirely shields you cannot recover health normally anymore via healing items

[hoary tendon]

If you want to nerf gesture I'd say to increase cool down time on other skills

[dim eagle]

Blast shower - reduces half of your debuffs; recycler - you can use it once per 2 items instead of 1; scanner - less radius

[analog narwhal]

im sure we already went over why this kinda isn’t a big deal

[void edge]

What about a lunar item that literally just killed you

[fallen basin]

so what youre saying is that recycler should basically have double the cooldown in exchange for having a reduced cooldown?

[fathom sedge]

You mean 187 shaped glass?

[analog narwhal]

Especially because stacking it is lossless

[dim eagle]

No, let me explain

[fallen basin]

im sure a significant portion of items becoming useless is indeed not a big deal

[modest drift]

gup

[analog narwhal]

yeah it isn’t run ending and in a lot of cases allows you to just be stronger

[grizzled meteor]

i mean, has any of your friends ever used meteor with max bleed?

[void edge]

Friends?

[fringe charm]

Tougher times with rex is op

[fallen basin]

i mean whats it supposed to do turn your hp into barriers

[analog narwhal]

trans losing benefit from all healing when scrappers exist is amongus

[grizzled meteor]

i feel sorry for you

[simple sun]

Gesture won't be unbalanced in the Simulacrum because there's no Bazaar

[void edge]

You wanna be my friend?

[stable sorrel]

I had an idea where gesture does what it does right now BUT it increases your other CDs by 10-25% or something, making your equipment more efficient but you also more reliant on it.

[fallen basin]

i cant just manifest a scrapper and then also manifest a printer that has an item that matters, its still rng

[grizzled meteor]

sure

[void edge]

Pog

[fallen basin]

thats actually a good fucking idea, tying it to cooldowns

[grizzled meteor]

[stable sorrel]

And that is a downside that can be compensated for with other lunars, like purity

[fallen basin]

thats a neat idea that fits thematically, albeit harsh probably

[analog narwhal]

you can’t tell me the 1% chance you aren’t able to scrap or replace whatever useless healing you get is a real suitable downside

[stable sorrel]

gesture could still have the potential to be the god tier item it is right now but it would take multiple items to reach that point

not just gesture by itself

[fallen basin]

i have plenty of runs where i just never find a scrapper/a printer thats worthwhile

[stable sorrel]

it was just a hypothetical idea

plus there's nothing in the game that increases CDs right now

[hoary tendon]

Purity

[fallen basin]

purity decreases them

[hoary tendon]

Wait no

[dim eagle]

@fallen basin For example you have 2 items, focus crystal and bungus. If you recycle focus crystal - you cant recycle bungus, something like that

[hoary tendon]

I'm a dumbass I though it was the other way around

[grizzled meteor]

you clearly didnt get a rack when you had transendence and it shows

[analog narwhal]

maybe I’m crazy but lunar items that can just be stacked without a second thought is kinda odd considering majority of them do not want to be stacked carelessly

[fallen basin]

how would the game determine the 50% of items that are unrecyclable? do you just leave items lying around

[analog narwhal]

im not gonna say I’ve always been able to get rid of everything

But I’m saying what you lose vs what you gain is totally in favor of trans

[stable sorrel]

because I liked gesture with a lot of items, such as royal capacitor or ocular HUD or Tonic, but it is just outright strong and the only downside it has is that it doesn't synergize with some items

[fallen basin]

i mean a gestures nerf isnt necessarily going to keep it that way and honestly what fucking downside DO you give transcendence

[simple sun]

just a 50% chance of not working for that idea

[fallen basin]

thats shitty

[hoary tendon]

Dude gesture with recycler is already a downside because you look at an item you like and then it turns into fresh meat

[simple sun]

yeah because it's a shitty way to balance gesture

[analog narwhal]

Lowered shield regen speed for additional transcendence stacks easy

[fallen basin]

oh i mean yeah but the proposition of "halved equipment effects" still cant discriminate @hoary tendon

[simple sun]

Gesture and Trans will never be balanced

[dim eagle]

Dunno, never really thought about gesture nerf

[fathom sedge]

Slower shield recovery

[hoary tendon]

Yeah

[stable sorrel]

I don't think transcendence is in a bad spot

[analog narwhal]

But it’s whTever really
why I actually would prefer is more synergy for shield and barrier

[fallen basin]

would prob need a bit more of a benefit from stacking then

[fathom sedge]

It's in a good spot, that's the issue

[dim eagle]

It just was the first idea

[analog narwhal]

50% more HP per what

[warm flare]

I think transcendence is fine as well tbh

[fathom sedge]

1 transcendence is fine

The fact that stacking has no downside is the issue

[stable sorrel]

it stacks too well I agree

[analog narwhal]

you already have a great benefit for stacking

[hoary tendon]

Maybe it's not the items that need to be nerfed but the bazaar

[fallen basin]

i mean part of the downside to stacking transcendence should be that you need to 1- find more and 2- buy more but soooome people cant respect the economy can they

[fathom sedge]

So just make it recharge shield slower with stacks

[stable sorrel]

would prefer to see it scale down on a log function

[fallen basin]

isnt it only 25% more with more trans

[analog narwhal]

All I’m saying is add more synergy for shield and barrier or nerf some of that shit got damn

I am tired of just nothing

[stable sorrel]

so maybe 3-4 transcendence is the cap of whats practical to get and you have to rely on other great HP related items like Ben's Raincoat if you want to get 100000000000 HP

[analog narwhal]

Blue HP and orange temporary HP

[fallen basin]

25% more isnt necessarily much

[hoary tendon]

Make barrier a cool blue color so it looks better with shields

[analog narwhal]

yeah I was wrong my

[hoary tendon]

Awesome synergy

[stable sorrel]

it is though

[analog narwhal]

But 25% is great

[stable sorrel]

1000 vs 1250

that's a big difference

[viscid pond]

depends on the character and build

[fallen basin]

it exponentially gets better but unless you get it late into a run it might not necessarily do that much

[simple sun]

Don't hard cap items ever

[grizzled meteor]

^

[fallen basin]

yeah let me use convergences to remove my fucking teleporter zone hopoo you cowards

[stable sorrel]

[zenith obsidian]

suicide is badass run

[simple sun]

Convergence could've just had it's downside capped mildly

[grizzled meteor]

you gotta stay in the bird bath in the middle of the thing

[simple sun]

to prevent the game from becoming unplayable

[grizzled meteor]

its way too big otherwise

[simple sun]

but if someone wants 45 focused convergence let them

[fathom sedge]

If you're playing as a tall character then void field bubbles are almost too small to stand in with 3 convergence

[fallen basin]

if youre only partially in does it not count still

[fathom sedge]

It does not

The center of your character is what needs to be in so over half your character basically

[hoary tendon]

Just don't play tall characters

[grizzled meteor]

play engi

be smart

[hoary tendon]

Play beetle

[fallen basin]

"play" and "engineer" are oxymorons

[hoary tendon]

Yeah

[fathom sedge]

"play engineer" is an oxymoron

[tepid parcel]

wait

[fathom sedge]

The words Play and Engineer are not individually oxymorons ya dingus

[tepid parcel]

does every single drone i have inherit microbots

[neon perch]

unless u play mobile harpoon engi

[fathom sedge]

Yes

[fallen basin]

prove it i want a 5 page essay on my desk by monday

[zenith obsidian]

engi is love engi is life

[hoary tendon]

Yeah I think

[neon perch]

thats pretty fun tbh

[tepid parcel]

cause i have a lot of drones

[stable sorrel]

"Oh boy I can't wait to play Engineer"
(stands still after laying down his turrets and wins)
"Phew! So much gameplay... Such intense action."

[fallen basin]

i get homing shots every few seconds how engaging

[dim eagle]

@fallen basin About recycler. How about reducing item pool by 50%?

[fallen basin]

that doesnt even make any sense

[grizzled meteor]

thats the problem, you dinguses use the stationary snooze buttons

[full sparrow]

hi chess

[fathom sedge]

How would you even know what items were being removed from the pool

[fallen basin]

rather than the mobile snooze buttons

[dim eagle]

Randomly

[stable sorrel]

for reference I play engie with missiles so I can be more active and I use the moving turrets because I don't like the shield bubble playstyle

[fathom sedge]

But Recycling is already random

[fallen basin]

so you wouldnt. there would be no visible difference.

[fathom sedge]

You wouldn't realize

[grizzled meteor]

i prefer the term "distractions"

[hoary tendon]

No bungus :(

[dim eagle]

For example if you have too much gestures you will always recycle into 1 specific item

[stable sorrel]

hiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[outer cairn]

pardon me but may i ask something

[grizzled meteor]

fuck yeah man, same honestly

[fathom sedge]

That's not necessarily a bad thing

[winged ferry]

power of artifacts

[full sparrow]

hows you?

[oak solstice]

Huh, looking at the new vid, it doesn’t look like the railgunner’s mine does any damage.

[outer cairn]

is it alright if I save edit the cap unlocked?

[oak solstice]

That’s even worse than I expected.

[fallen basin]

ok but why would i stack gestures if stacking has a downside

[fathom sedge]

It doesn't

[fallen basin]

fuel cells do the same shit and i HAVE a recycler

[outer cairn]

is there anything against me editing the cap unlocked

[stable sorrel]

blegh

[grizzled meteor]

i mean, its really not supposed to

[fallen basin]

cowardice is what

[grizzled meteor]

you gotta earn the crowd control

[outer cairn]

because i beat mithrix with the artificer fair and square

[fallen basin]

thats the point yes

[stable sorrel]

knockback only, maybe the alt-version of the skill will have damage

[oak solstice]

So literally zero crowd control on her.

[steep gust]

Which isn't the usual way of playing as Engi. As a Combat Engi, you basically scout and scavenge, drop the turrets and place traps, use harpoons and m1, gotta keep moving. Only when you have a part of your build can you relax, meaning the Engi hunts chests all the time

[grizzled meteor]

or it will suck in the enemies instead of blasting them away

[outer cairn]

I died because of artificer movement speed

[oak solstice]

She’s just worse Mul-T

[outer cairn]

and i am incredibly salty

[fathom sedge]

Did you die during the end sequ- ah

[outer cairn]

I DID IT

[fallen basin]

pretty sure you can escape at base speed chief

[fathom sedge]

Go do it again dweeb

[steep gust]

If we were item hunting, Engi would have found 3 chests and opened them

Taken what he could scavenge or give what he thinks is better on others

[fallen basin]

either way if you did it once its even easier the second time so.do it legit

[grizzled meteor]

more like crowd trimming capabilities

[outer cairn]

i made it to the ship but the ship startup killed me

[steep gust]

Brainstalks isn't good on Engi
Soulbound Catalyst isn't good on Engi

[dim eagle]

Uhh... Because we are talking about gesture nerf? Also its a lunar item it should have a downside

[stable sorrel]

this is how literally everyone else plays, so that's why I play it that way. I don't want to hunker down in one place I want to run around and circle strafe

[fallen basin]

ok but what do i do with the teleport event

[neon perch]

yeah its funn while after u shoot ur poons you start charing ur m1

[hoary tendon]

Then you didn't win

[stable sorrel]

soulbound catalyst is equally good on everyone?

[outer cairn]

hhhhh

[steep gust]

Would rather have an aspect as Engi

[oak solstice]

Sounds like another low C tier survivor.

[fathom sedge]

Everyone has the same speed, just do it faster

[oak solstice]

Shame.

[outer cairn]

right time to do this on bandit

[stable sorrel]

its an equipment slot item how tf does it not help engi?

[viscid pond]

turrets steal ur kills

[fallen basin]

my point is your recycler downside is only noticable if i stack gestures and if stacking gestures makes my active worse im just gonna use fuel cells

[steep gust]

You play smart, retreat when you need to, if your things are dying get out of the zone to recuperate

[fallen basin]

ok good fucking luck getting ome

[random atlas]

It's been said before by multiple people, but people often forget that Engineer is still a player character, he has three other skills you can use to be offensive with.

[grizzled meteor]

what kinda fucking dingus plays engineer and only gets 3 chests, you are literally given full relief of combat at will to wander around like a loot gremlin

[stable sorrel]

still going to have the long-term effect of reducing your CDs

[fallen basin]

ok so i walk in circles around the enemies so they miss? riveting

[stable sorrel]

even if it's just less

[distant flower]

Engineer 🛏️ 😴

[outer cairn]

what's the besst way to get past the end sequence?

[fathom sedge]

Go straight to the ship

[steep gust]

Sigh Yeah, let me just open all the chests and take everything and not give you any

[random atlas]

Eccentric Vase

[outer cairn]

i started sprinting the moment i got out of the arena

[fathom sedge]

Do not fight

[fallen basin]

walk towards the ship and then stand still in the ship

[outer cairn]

i was running the whole way

[oak solstice]

Then you got lost

[little burrow]

recycler or tincture? (macrid )

[oak solstice]

All survivors can make it easily.

[winged ferry]

good morning gd1

[hoary tendon]

I just run in circles without killing anything

[fathom sedge]

If you sprinted the whole way then you'd have enough time so clearly you're telling a half-truth

[steep gust]

Engi's middle name is greed

[fallen basin]

either you were lost, or you had 50 tonic afflictions, because 3 min is a long time

[outer cairn]

i didnt know about the portals

[distant flower]

wakan

[fathom sedge]

Ahaaaa

[fallen basin]

well now you do so its easy

[steep gust]

Whacka

[fallen basin]

so go do it

[outer cairn]

i thought you could just jump off the edge

[fathom sedge]

Now you know about the portals yeah

[fallen basin]

couldnt do that pre or mid fight

[random atlas]

It can get really close if you have no speed buffs and spawn on the other end of the map, but once you hop into a portal, you ought to have the time to do it

[fallen basin]

also would that not make the fall cripple anyone without air mobility or fall damage immunity

[grizzled meteor]

thats called being a dick, you loot the things you want and pass down the stuff you dont want

[random atlas]

Or you can have eight Goat Hooves and a double jump and fly with Transport Mode

[outer cairn]

artificer

[fallen basin]

theres other characters

[steep gust]

Everyone does that.

[outer cairn]

yeah, i thought i could jump it

[fallen basin]

arti does have air mobility thats why i specified without

[elfin vigil]

mfw gd1 talking about risk of rain unforeseen event

[random atlas]

Engineer and Captain come to mind, are there any others?

[outer cairn]

apologies for the salt it was my first time beating mith

[dim eagle]

I got your point but i guess the whole talk is kinda pointless then. "im just gonna use fuel cells" yeah, thats it, fuel cell is not a lunar item, it should not has a downside

[stable sorrel]

in pubs items are a free-for-all but in actual voice chat play you should be sharing items with whoever needs them most

[fallen basin]

yes my point though is your downside for recycler only works if i stack a lot of gestures and im not going to do that

[elfin vigil]

me omw to accidentally grab a focus crystal as commando instead of giving it to my friend playing loader

[stable sorrel]

mofos ain't played Left 4 Dead 2; that isn't your item that's the TEAM'S item (insert hammer and sickle)

[steep gust]

Blegh is right

[fallen basin]

because its a bad idea when taking 1 gestures and stacking fuel cells has the same effect with less downsides

[random atlas]

I disagree only in the case of boss items. I feel like dividing them up evenly ought to just be common sense/courtesy

[pastel sandal]

me grabbing a backup mag as captain while the mercenary cries

[steep gust]

Imagine grabbing a Bungus in front of Engi

[stable sorrel]

everyone gets 1/2/3 etc. unless there needs to be more discussion from a mix of yellows and greens

[naive lantern]

Play loader so you can optimally steal his bungus

[little burrow]

purity with acrid bite lunge mod

[fathom sedge]

Imagine playing stationary turrets Engi

[hoary tendon]

Me taking brainstalks while playing Goku and my friend is commando

[little burrow]

i am now a flying dog

[stable sorrel]

nobody is going to want the beetle gland and everyone will want the shatterspleen

[random atlas]

Nah, I mean in regards to Randos online. Like, everyone should just be able to do fucking math.

[steep gust]

I do, I don't need turrets to escort me

[little burrow]

there are way too many peoples here

[timid berry]

sigma engineer kills mithrix without his lame ass turrets

[full sparrow]

:<

[grizzled meteor]

thats when you kill them with meteor

[steep gust]

No, that's when you can start being a dick

[stable sorrel]

Any ruingineer enjoyers?

[random atlas]

If I'm in voice chat with a premade party, I'll always discuss item distribution and often end up with fewer items simply because I'll often not even need them.

[fallen basin]

or if the item is useless (ie: mando wont be wanting bands, loader wont be wanting a predatory)

[stable sorrel]

Mando might want the bands if he has nades

[grizzled meteor]

why? that guard is tanky af, takes a lot of agro away from you and deals solid damage

[naive lantern]

Using ruin on engineer 😔
Unbinding special on engineer 🤔

[steep gust]

That's when Engi who can initiate bands all the fucking time steals them, grabs all the offensive items and runs off to leave you guys when you are fighting against boss

[random atlas]

Hell, I'll often end up being the last one alive despite having like 1/3 the items of everyone else.

Because Power Mode is fucking disgusting

[steep gust]

Then swoops in when boss is nearly dead and steals the boss drops

[pastel sandal]

i honestly read 1/3th

and i was very confused

[elfin vigil]

void fields but your teammate/s die

[random atlas]

Friday the 1/3th

[elfin vigil]

free items galore

[stable sorrel]

huntress players taking all of the crit and dying instantly anyways

[steep gust]

As an Engi... I desire Razorwire greatly

[dim eagle]

Hmm... How about recycler now has a 50% chance to reroll the item into itself?

[steep gust]

Especially in Void Fields

[grizzled meteor]

thats the scariest and the best feeling moment ever

[hoary tendon]

I convinced an engi player to take strides

[random atlas]

Huntress mains not grabbing Medkit because it's not boosting their "bosskilling" damage

[hoary tendon]

I felt bad about it

[little burrow]

trolled moment

[stable sorrel]

playing huntress is a bannable offense do not make this mistake again

[elfin vigil]

HUNTRESS... WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU...
SHAPED GLASS ‼️ ‼️

[grizzled meteor]

free mobility

[little burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[steep gust]

.... SMH. I convinced a Loader to take Strides. Also I would never replace Harpoons

[fallen basin]

that would make it unusable

[little burrow]

i once got hooks with acrid.. it was a great run

[fallen basin]

its a superior ability wdym

[steep gust]

Great as in great or great as in great death

[pastel sandal]

did you kill mithrix

[stable sorrel]

strides loader

[random atlas]

Great as in great

[hoary tendon]

Oh wait I thought that replaced the turrets

[tidal fiber]

anyone else find huntress's auto aim boring? I would like it to be optional in game

[steep gust]

Not asking you

[little burrow]

it was a great run before i got hooks you massive motherfuckers

[dim eagle]

Once again, perhaps 50% reduce equip effect is too much for nerf

[random atlas]

Literally who

[stable sorrel]

tons of people wish it was a bow shot you could aim

[naive lantern]

[grizzled meteor]

takes away their shield

[pastel sandal]

^^^^^, i think auto aim on the glaive is fun but auto aim primary is mindless

[steep gust]

Or harpoons

[random atlas]

Anyway, yeah, I can't stand playing Huntress, I wish it was like Captain's gun, load it up a bit to boost damage and maybe make it pierce an enemy or two.

[tidal fiber]

do u think they'll add it

[fathom sedge]

Still doesn't solve for Blast Shower

[elfin vigil]

how would non auto aim glaive even work

[hoary tendon]

He took the item and then we both died soon after and since he didn't place any more turrets I thought it got rid of them

[elfin vigil]

probably not be a glaive

[tidal fiber]

yeah for sure on the glaive. it is fr mindless

[fathom sedge]

Poorly lol

[random atlas]

Or, better yet, charge it up for more proc rate or something

[stable sorrel]

Absolutely not, but there is a mod for it.

[tidal fiber]

oh sweet

[dim eagle]

@fathom sedge Why not tho?

[grizzled meteor]

removes half the duration of any given effect

bad effect*

[solid siren]

bruh recycler is already really damn good

[fathom sedge]

I guesss???

[random atlas]

Recycler do be bussin'

[elfin vigil]

recycler buff
get real

[random atlas]

Whenever anyone talks shit about Recycler, just tell them to take off Command

[solid siren]

idk if i misread tho im raindead rn

[dim eagle]

We were talking about gesture nerf

[elfin vigil]

guys they should buff royal capacitor to 6000% damage for balancing

oh mah gawwwd

[grizzled meteor]

i did a command run for shits and giggles, fucking picked recycler out of habit

[flat swan]

Tilted in here fr?

[random atlas]

Recycler just that good

[naive lantern]

Buff meteorite to track nearby players

[full sparrow]

i would personally prefer something that improves combat abilities rather than command lite

[elfin vigil]

post recycler stress disorder

[fathom sedge]

The idea for Huntress M1 rework I had was that you'd have to aim manually while walkinh/standing to "tag" enemies as targets, and then while Sprinting you use your strafing attack to fire auto-aim arrows at tagged enemies

[stable sorrel]

My recommendations for huntress:
get HIFU's Huntress Tweaks and HIFU autoaim fix and then see if you still hate autoaim

[random atlas]

Nah, the real use of Recycler on Command is to change your teammates drops right before they pick them up.

[grizzled meteor]

mfw recycler so good the image of it makes me pick it

[solid siren]

aim fix is a dependency so it gets installed alongside it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/900571239251337216.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[stable sorrel]

ye

[elfin vigil]

it's like a mini 57 leaf clover for items

[grizzled meteor]

fuck u uncommands your item

[elfin vigil]

it rerolls once but it can also give you a bad outcome

[full wyvern]

hi im here to remind you all that I hate acrid

[steep gust]

Blast Shower can save one from a myriad of bad effects, like from Malachite, fire, bleed, and I think even a certain stun.... maybe not

[grizzled meteor]

look up the nsfw mods for that puppy

[random atlas]

Thing is, it can also allow you to cheese Boss item and Legendary printers

[full wyvern]

Nty

[fathom sedge]

We were talking about a Gesture nerf

[steep gust]

Oh

[fathom sedge]

They proposed 50% effective equipment

[random atlas]

Damn, sounds like he didn't ask

[elfin vigil]

i'd say gesture is fine as is it just has a bit more uses than other lunar items

[fathom sedge]

Which is dumb

[fallen basin]

gesture has 0 downside

[little burrow]

the mired urn + tincture combo 😩 👌

[stable sorrel]

I've been considering popping into the modding servers just to see if anyone might need help with UI for their mods but also thats a lot of work

[little burrow]

if i get a razorwire it's over

[fallen basin]

its "downside" is an upside

[fathom sedge]

Gesture maybe has a downside at 1 stack

[elfin vigil]

use it with literally anything that isn't spinel and you'll forget about it

[random atlas]

Gesture doesn't have 0 downside, it really fucks with certain items.

[full sparrow]

*excludes preon and recycler

[full wyvern]

the worst part about failing to get mastery as acrid is realising you have to play acrid again

[violet sorrel]

yeah I don't want stuff that's just "oooh double fire rate but half damage!" that's just increase one stat but decrease another

[elfin vigil]

WOW i didn't remember this primordial cube i had

[random atlas]

Not most, but some.

[fallen basin]

recycler and crowdfunder are unusable and preon is dumb but thats it

same issue that old shaped glass had, the downside is something thats more of an upside

[elfin vigil]

preon funky

[random atlas]

Preon cool

[fathom sedge]

Avoid recycler issue by walking backwards but tbh you really shouldn't be using Recycler with Gesture anyway

[full wyvern]

would be essentially double proc too

[grizzled meteor]

imagine, you randomly spin around only to disintigrate a singular beetle out of existence

[elfin vigil]

beeble noooo

[full sparrow]

bye bye beeble :<

[fathom sedge]

No it's not because those procs are also half damage

[naive lantern]

Best I could come up with for gesture nerf is random amount added to cd with a larger range per stack

[elfin vigil]

gets blasted with radiation

[naive lantern]

Honestly I'd rather just delete it

[fallen basin]

half damage bleed

[random atlas]

Nah, Gesture too fun to delete

[fathom sedge]

Half duration I think

[dim eagle]

Kinda, it was the first idea that came into my mind

[violet sorrel]

yeah it's duration

[fathom sedge]

Tbh Gesture should just be a red item like it was in RoR1

[fallen basin]

i dont think it was in ror1

[full wyvern]

if you dont like gesture runs just dont pick up gesture silly

[fathom sedge]

It was a different name/item

[full sparrow]

no more gesture tonic rerollers!

[winged ferry]

Good thing I never unlocked it and didn't become addicted

[fathom sedge]

But same effect

[full wyvern]

thats what I do

[steep gust]

_>

[elfin vigil]

not a real downside just evil but imagine if getting a gesture locked your use items so you can't drop it for another

[random atlas]

There was a fetus thing in RoR1 that sometimes doubled Equipment/Item effect

[dim eagle]

@fathom sedge What do you think about limited uses per stage?

[tepid parcel]

YOOOO

[naive lantern]

Isn't that just fuel cell minus the equip charge though

[tepid parcel]

I GOT AN ESSENCE

[fathom sedge]

Item in ror1 that gave like 30% cooldown reduction on equipment with no downside cause it was a red

[fallen basin]

you mean rapid mitosis? it didnt have the auto-use which is a big part of its identity

[grizzled meteor]

pog

[steep gust]

Ifrit's Distinction, you mean Aspect

[grizzled meteor]

thats a legit downside

[fallen basin]

why would anyone take that

[elfin vigil]

yeah but they just prepare for tonic and it's game over

[neon perch]

what happens in eclispe if u win as heretic again

[steep gust]

Or is that Silence Between Two Strikes

[tepid parcel]

its her biting embrace

[fathom sedge]

Too punishing for equips with a low cooldown but it's an interesting idea

[steep gust]

Actually it looks more like Her Biting Embrace

[grizzled meteor]

that tonic hit different when mithrix takes away the gesture

[fallen basin]

yeah its way too bad for a lot of equips

[warm flare]

stacking degen on equipment activation

[elfin vigil]

royal capacitator fans bawling

[violet sorrel]

maybe you have preon in a 6 stage run

[steep gust]

Yeah you got me, Her Biting Embrace has a more whiteish hue anyways

[winged ferry]

hold up why is your MUL-T using Captain's drone

[fallen basin]

id rather just time my own preon

[tepid parcel]

uh, artifact of metamorphasis

[fallen basin]

artifact that changes character

[steep gust]

Metamorphosis

[elfin vigil]

preon plus gesture is the epitome of ''oops i forgot i had that''

[steep gust]

Guess what Engi wants

[winged ferry]

this word gives me serious ptsd

[steep gust]

It starts with Def and ends with bots

[violet sorrel]

bungus

[random atlas]

Definitely Abbots

[elfin vigil]

defbungusbots

[tepid parcel]

WAIT YOU DONT CHANGE BACK???

[fallen basin]

bungus isnt funny

[grizzled meteor]

preon gesture is the only time i allow gesture, its just too funny to see a giant ball of death fly randomly and hit like, one wisp

[dim eagle]

Damn, got cyberbullied once again

[random atlas]

Now wungus. That's comedy gold.

[fallen basin]

you change every stage with metamorphosis but since you only get it for one stage youre just permaswapped

[stable sorrel]

die

[full wyvern]

bungus s tier

:)

[steep gust]

Whites - Bungus
Greens - Bandolier and Razorwire
Red - Defensive Microbots
Yellow - Titianic Knurl(?)
I think these are what Engi wants

[fallen basin]

good luck getting microbots buddy

[remote gate]

Helloz

[violet sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841470593471348778/938878058398646333/938878048642670622.mp4

[random atlas]

cringe, imagine not wanting Genesis Loop as Engineer

[remote gate]

Rungus

[fallen basin]

the ideal red for engineer is nkuhanas

[wild pendant]

[steep gust]

Pass, better yellows out there

[stable sorrel]

i play with artifact of chaos

[grizzled meteor]

nkuhanas and rack isnt in there, unless you are talking about chad engi

[naive lantern]

would probably be better

[random atlas]

Even better

[steep gust]

I obviously didn't state everything Engi wants

[full wyvern]

why even play engineer? Just buy a turret stupid

[naive lantern]

Esp if chaos since razorwire, assuming that even works

[fallen basin]

tru tbh

[remote gate]

Landmines

[stable sorrel]

EVEEEEEEEEN BEEEEEEETTERRRR

[fallen basin]

railgunner

[steep gust]

I want 343 Bungus so I can envelop the whole map in healing aura

[random atlas]

Man, this guy has some really limp takes

[full wyvern]

touche

[grizzled meteor]

have you seen a engineer with 5 syringes just spew out endless bombs

[random atlas]

Imagine not using Goat's Hoof Carbonizer turrets

[steep gust]

Too bad Carbonizers don't sprint

[elfin vigil]

carbonizer cause they turn into carbon when an elder lemurian spawns

[steep gust]

Then we would have Little Disciple Engis running around

[random atlas]

1. didn't ask
2. that's Energy Drink idiot
3. literally who?

[elfin vigil]

that is ajoke cause i do not play engineer much

[grizzled meteor]

they run into that mf like a level 1 bandit in a rpg game

[elfin vigil]

this is my battle to WIIIN!!!
explodes

[random atlas]

Carbonizer Turrets running off ledges and into enemy mobs at high speeds

[distant flower]

Dog

[hidden saddle]

i think the mods should remove most people from gd1

[violet sorrel]

yeah why would you use the turret that can sit on a ledge OUTSIDE of the range of the melee enemies that 1 shot it

[steep gust]

Though if we go with Europe's style

[grizzled meteor]

i swear i saw one straight up just walk into a jet of steam and get the fuck out as soon as i placed it

[violet sorrel]

carbos are def better

[winged ferry]

I want a turret that prioritizes flying fucks like clabong and greater wisps
Maybe designed as a missile AA battery

[distant flower]

Everyone except wakan

[elfin vigil]

remove gd1

[grizzled meteor]

based af

[steep gust]

LiterallyEurope would probably play engi with

It works

[gusty oar]

why

[distant flower]

wakan

[gusty oar]

hi

[steep gust]

Whacka

[winged ferry]

and feed it to an equipment drone

[distant flower]

wakan is the best person in this chat

[violet sorrel]

not

[gusty oar]

no

[random atlas]

I remember we did Umbras once and I used Carbonizer Chronobaubles turrets just to see what would happen.

[grizzled meteor]

japan cosplay

[random atlas]

We didn't get far.

[distant flower]

Yes

[random atlas]

Turn gd1 into Stadia-Group-Chat

[gusty oar]

trueee you tell them bestie

[plain trench]

Where do i find mod to prevent crashing?

[signal cipher]

Jesus

[random atlas]

I wanna see how many people actually play on the Stadia. Like 4

[random atlas]

I know, he still thinks Quagsire is funny, in the current year?

[winged ferry]

is huntress umbra dangerous? with her aimbot and stuff

[distant flower]

No but the pokemon itself is actually cool

[violet sorrel]

stadia in a nutshell

[signal cipher]

Not really just annoying chip damage

[random atlas]

It do be bussin' tho with that Unaware + Recover

[stable sorrel]

only 1 4x weakness literally the best type

[dim eagle]

@fallen basin@fathom sedge Whenever you use an equipment there is a 50% chance that your equipment cooldown will be either reduced or increased by X%

Reduced or increased once

[winged ferry]

preon with the worst cd roll

[dim eagle]

Not permanently

[white kelp]

Guitar

[random atlas]

You want a dangerous Umbra, I saw my Bandit Umbra explode my Loader teammate with Shatterspleen + Hemorrhage backstab once.

[grizzled meteor]

tfw you hit that +100%

[winged ferry]

did you at least report the dead body?

wrong server sorry

[signal cipher]

Watch me hit the reduction on woodsprite

[full wyvern]

so what do you guys spend your time doing after killing the portal boss within the first 5% of the portal?

[random atlas]

Yeah, but it'd be generous to call it a "body" at that point

[void flame]

Do the moving turrets count as sprinting?

[signal cipher]

Are you sure?

[winged ferry]

I'm never sure

[grizzled meteor]

i remember playing with chaos with a friend, he was loader i was captain, he punched me 3 times out of oblivion, i smashed him under my hacking beacon 3 times

[signal cipher]

Stand still and check my items/character/level/difficulty whatever

[white kelp]

GeeDeeOne

[remote quartz]

coat sus

[grizzled meteor]

get on top of a rock and look up images of acrid

[steep gust]

_>

[full wyvern]

you're done

[signal cipher]

Nope they don't always sprint

[steep gust]

Hi Europe

[void flame]

Darn

[random atlas]

You Might Want a Larger Guitar

[white kelp]

hello bell with an ar

[fathom sedge]

That doesn't really sound that fun though

[steep gust]

Show us Engi with Fuel Array

[timid berry]

what are the items that you should never get with engineer

[white kelp]

Olbart states he heard the people in Chaosflame are strong, but wonders if they're stronger than the people in the Shinobi Village.

[grizzled meteor]

you will never prevent my thirst for those alien hips

[signal cipher]

Nothing really

[random atlas]

Whenever you use your Equipment, there's a chance it just does nothing except make a farting sound and produce a little puff of smoke

[white kelp]

3xample states he heard Ben's Raincoat is strong, but wonders if it's stronger than the Aegis.

[steep gust]

Also don't call me Bell, I don't want to deal with her again

[grizzled meteor]

bungus

hm

[random atlas]

Yeah, it's "Belle" with an 'e' at the end, makes them feel fancy

[winged ferry]

damn did I miss frе nitrо again

[white kelp]

same

[signal cipher]

Free nitrosus

[steep gust]

SMH

[grizzled meteor]

and i get smitten by the bot instead

[stable sorrel]

you know when the simulacrum comes out Artifact of Glass waves are going to be a real run ender

[white kelp]

oh yeah right I forgot

[signal cipher]

You're not nitroing hard enough

[white kelp]

that that word is banned

[random atlas]

Why is that word banned?

[dim eagle]

Maybe but we were talking about nerf right? I dont know what else i can suggest at this point

[signal cipher]

Uncles can confirm

[random atlas]

yeah, that word

[grizzled meteor]

WHOA

[random atlas]

You naughty, naughty boy.

[signal cipher]

Scam bots

[grizzled meteor]

financially non-burdening fucking triggers it?

[steep gust]

_>

[fathom sedge]

Give equip CDR to a red item, totally rework what Gesture does

[signal cipher]

[grizzled meteor]

guys lets just stop

[random atlas]

I see. From here on out, I'll have my scambots say "Discord +"

[white kelp]

Let's not.

[grizzled meteor]

discord 2

[signal cipher]

Let's not sat ñïťŕø guys.

[white kelp]

yeah let's talk about how sundered grove theme is based

[little burrow]

in my defense, mithrix was way too fast

[random atlas]

No?

Sky Meadows or gtfo

[white kelp]

have you not heard the new grove theme

[signal cipher]

I agree

[random atlas]

Almost assuredly not, as I play Switch.

[signal cipher]

Speed is war

[random atlas]

I liked that play-doh thing, though...

[rotund pasture]

by play i assume you mean going into the main menu then shutting off the game

[grizzled meteor]

dubiously non-monetary value requiring subscription based service

[rotund pasture]

because thats the only part of console ror2 that works

[grizzled meteor]

FUCK YEA

[random atlas]

who are you

[random atlas]

Discord**+**

[rotund pasture]

gd1 person

[signal cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-i-have-been-so-distant-consistently-indifferent-does-this-count-as-library-of-ruina-gif-21979496

[white kelp]

Level 3½ Mouse Thief states he heard the song in Sky Meadows is strong, but wonders if it's stronger than the song in the new Sundered Grove.

[random atlas]

Oh, it's an amogus

[signal cipher]

I never noticed until now.
Thanks buddy.

[rotund pasture]

Level 3½ Mouse Thief states he heard the song in Sky Meadows is strong, but wonders if it's stronger than the song in the new Sundered Grove.

[steep gust]

_>

[random atlas]

Anytime, that's what buddies are for.

[steep gust]

Sacrifice

[grizzled meteor]

Level 3½ Mouse Thief states he heard the song in Sky Meadows is strong, but wonders if it's stronger than the song in the new Sundered Grove

[steep gust]

I'm trying to remember teh second Mul-T main I recall from here

Is Mouse Thief, Cream or no....

Nope, nevermind

[short jewel]

GOLEM EVENT

[signal cipher]

What's this copy pasta from

[short jewel]

I'M FUCKED

[short jewel]

OH GOD

[rotund pasture]

dont get hit

[random atlas]

It could be worse. It could be Wisp spam.

[violet sorrel]

what copypasta

[short jewel]

NAH

[grizzled meteor]

i remember we thought that was the password for a while

[short jewel]

WISP SPAM ISNT AS BAD AS THIS WHEN YOU HAVE ENGINEER

[rotund pasture]

no wisp spam is much better than golem

[steep gust]

Hey it could be worse, getting Lunar Chimeras stage 1

[signal cipher]

Nevermind

[random atlas]

Oh, Engineer? Woof, get fucked kiddo

[rotund pasture]

you cant get chimeras stage 1

[remote gate]

FUCKING BLAZING LEMURIANS

[grizzled meteor]

rip

[short jewel]

OH GOD, THE MELD OF HTE AMOGUSES AND THE CAPTION
library of ruina

[grizzled meteor]

they better be movin

[steep gust]

Really?

[rotund pasture]

only stage 5

[remote gate]

Fuck those lizard assholes

[steep gust]

Hmmmmm

[winged ferry]

don't have sex with the aliens noo

[steep gust]

...

[fathom sedge]

Can we not

[little burrow]

bro...

[rotund pasture]

he he he ha

[little burrow]

tilted, you know what to do

[zenith obsidian]

i had to

[grizzled meteor]

overloading ones are worse, you know you're gonna die as you stare at those blue balls of death

[random atlas]

It could have been a lot scarier.

[little burrow]

are you?

[grizzled meteor]

objection

acrid thicc

[winged ferry]

someone stop him

[fathom sedge]

And I have to pull both your arms off if you do that again

[winged ferry]

[remote gate]

Shut the fuck up before I desparado your ass to kingdom come

[zenith obsidian]

cant you pull off my legs instead?

[fringe charm]

Just perfect parry for golems smh

[fathom sedge]

That would be kinda rude

[zenith obsidian]

oh and pulling my arms off aint?

[rotund pasture]

no

[short jewel]

survived

[violet sorrel]

after what you just sent nah

[grizzled meteor]

what did you do

[fringe charm]

No cause you could say he's giving you a hand

[winged ferry]

No thermal harpoons?

Cringe

[grizzled meteor]

i see a big mistake with that shift ability there

[zenith obsidian]

it was removed

cant show

[grizzled meteor]

send to me

i consent and desire

[violet sorrel]

on the contrary, I think the choice of utility is quite based 🧐

[zenith obsidian]

it was just a gif

[grizzled meteor]

of?

[fluid sonnet]

[zenith obsidian]

just search unzips and its the first one

[short jewel]

?

[grizzled meteor]

ah

[grizzled meteor]

its not harpoon

[short jewel]

bruh im not gonna use harpoons with the default turrets

if it was mobile turrets i'd be glad to use harpoons

[winged ferry]

bruh

too much damage 😢

[grizzled meteor]

pfft, bro playing like its tower defense

[winged ferry]

sure thing commando main

not used to killing something in less than 20 seconds

[remote depot]

cant wait to say "but why he ourple?" when meeting the void final boss

[winged ferry]

afraid you'd be convinced to main another character?

[gleaming maple]

void fields on the one platform

[grizzled meteor]

just dont get hit till its charged smh

[fluid sonnet]

u can change it to that

[gleaming maple]

how to play risk of rain 2

[fluid sonnet]

in game files

[gleaming maple]

why he ourple

[grizzled meteor]

bold of you assume i can aim a diablo strike

[short jewel]

bingus

[winged ferry]

skill issue

[violet sorrel]

mfw people want to let stationary turrets actually stay alive instead of getting that sweet 250% dps

[full wyvern]

Oh dear

[grizzled meteor]

based

he got the bullet hell variation

[steep gust]

Huh?

[winged ferry]

You have bungus

[full wyvern]

Already almost died 😎

[rose hull]

i love this game

[violet sorrel]

no because I don't have command 😎

[grizzled meteor]

they transported you to gensokyo my dude

[rose hull]

i was laughing about how my run was going so well and i got one shotted by a jelly fish\

[steep gust]

I hate Command

[winged ferry]

it's a white item

[grizzled meteor]

graze those lasers

[wooden lantern]

i would play d2 rn if i didnt go to gym 5 minutes later

[rose hull]

tragic

[full wyvern]

TIME TO KEEP GOING

[violet sorrel]

oh yeah my bad

I forgot because it's a white item I have 10 stacks of it constantly

[full wyvern]

[winged ferry]

skill issue

[upper marsh]

Is it just me or did merc get nerfed

[winged ferry]

Simply be better at farming

[fluid sonnet]

he was always bad

[winged ferry]

Merc is fucking wild rn

[fluid sonnet]

[upper marsh]

rip

[violet sorrel]

merc damage got buffed

[wooden lantern]

hes only good for those who know how to make him good

[winged ferry]

as soon as you can extend the 3rd hit of his m1 reliably via shift or whatever

[distant flower]

So sad

[violet sorrel]

tho that was in august 2020

[winged ferry]

Especially with his alt shift

[distant flower]

Master yi

[winged ferry]

Insane

[violet sorrel]

his health regen and eviscerate damage got nerfed but his damage is a lot better overall now

[winged ferry]

groups of enemies get obliterated

[raven shoal]

I got my piss jugs saved up for the new update

[upper marsh]

I used to play him on console till I moved to pc. It seems like he got worse or maybe his controls were just difficult to get used to

[outer garnet]

anyone know why the boss in balwarks ambry randomly gains max health

[fringe charm]

Shrine of order with rex Result:
16 daggers
9 death marks
1 alien head

[violet sorrel]

it's a bug

[winged ferry]

skill issue

[outer garnet]

ah makes sense

[violet sorrel]

idk what causes it but I don't think anyone really knows how to prevent it

[wooden lantern]

skill issue, you arent used to pc yet

thats perfectly normal btw

[upper marsh]

Maybe it was cause I started on Monsoon

that might be it

[astral lily]

yeah that's just kinda the thing with merc, don't feel bad when you're not feelin like you're up to code with merc cause he's just the hardest character to be good with

[upper marsh]

I was a god on console. Might just need to get used to it

[distant flower]

How are you on no shit February day 3?

[wooden lantern]

i shitted

[fringe charm]

God fucking dammit i died

[violet sorrel]

I'm gonna brown?

[steep gust]

Yeah Merc is combo man

[violet sorrel]

NOOOOOOO

[distant flower]

So true

[violet sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[upper marsh]

Also is bandit busted? he wasn't a character last time I played on console.

[steep gust]

BAndit has his own quirks

[distant flower]

Good early I think or something

[hybrid marlin]

[upper marsh]

I played him with a bleed build and it shredded

[violet sorrel]

did you console have the final boss

[upper marsh]

Yes

[rotund pasture]

bandit is really good

[violet sorrel]

ok

[hybrid marlin]

Bandit is great

[violet sorrel]

just asking because that's when merc got reworked

[fringe charm]

We console can't get to mithrix anymore unless we loop 6 times

Oh wait, no we can't, lunar enemies can be malachite

[distant flower]

Crom fudnr

[upper marsh]

Each Pellet can have proc so he's good

[violet sorrel]

but yeah bandit is really strong

[remote depot]

bandit 👍

[shy kindle]

ok so out of curiosity

what do you all think of the new bizzozerein sniper railgunner

[rotund pasture]

i think if the numbers get tweaked its gonna be fine

[shy kindle]

cause I know some folks in here like it, some are neutral, some absolutely hate it or are disappointed

[violet sorrel]

I think they're fine

I think they seem fun but I probably wont main her

[hard zenith]

Probably good but seems kinda unfun to play that could just be me tho idk I generally just like playin really agressive

[rotund pasture]

like looking at the concept its pretty cool
but the balancing the j

[mild orbit]

Bandit is really good early, kinda falls off hard if you don't have good items

[shy kindle]

me personally I like Moffein Sniper a lot more

[white kelp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/923640100909359224/936418238651322419/CoilGolemPreview.gif

[rotund pasture]

hi chat

[violet sorrel]

I wish they did more with r than just "m2 but bigger and stronger but more windup"

[rotund pasture]

i mean do we know the alts

[violet sorrel]

but maybe alt r can save that

[rotund pasture]

ok but like watch the alt m2 just be like "oh you can do multiple shots!"

[violet sorrel]

were they leaked? I thought we just knew the icons

[rotund pasture]

nope

[steep gust]

_>

Thinks of drone turrets for Engi...

[violet sorrel]

I feel like alt m2 will probably be quick fire in some capacity

[timid berry]

what about bandit

[violet sorrel]

tho we already have backup mag synergy with the default so maybe not

[winged ferry]

Besz

[toxic badge]

I think she’ll be really good but will have to rely on items for crowd control

[shy kindle]

i think the thing that really kinda gets me the most about it is the fact that they made the M1 for the survivor that's supposed to be all about fine-aiming

into the most auto-aim ability in the entire game

[steep gust]

_>

[timid berry]

wtf i sent this 30 minutes ago why did it send now

[steep gust]

What, Huntress?

Commando is all about dat fine aiming

[signal cipher]

Holy shit based pfp

[rotund pasture]

i like how suncles used it like twice
the entire time he was showing off simulacrum

and all other times he was just scopeshotting

[shy kindle]

Huntress is unironically less auto-aim than Sniper is, because with Huntress you have to be looking a little bit at your target to hit them and you have to be looking close at your target to even be allowed to fire it

Sniper's M1 will literally turn 180 degrees to hit something

[rotund pasture]

you mean 180

[violet sorrel]

the difference is commando is basically a machine gun that can afford to miss a few shots but sniper is supposed to be really punishing if you don't work on your accuracy

[shy kindle]

jeez, it's that bad?

[steep gust]

And this is why I ain't watching it

[rotund pasture]

thats what it looked like

[signal cipher]

Told you huntress takes skill

[steep gust]

Because I would rather feel it

[violet sorrel]

it looks like visions lol

[rotund pasture]

it looked like it ARCED BEHIND to hit something

[woeful gorge]

it did

[short bridge]

based

[violet sorrel]

but sounds way worse

[shy kindle]

and the R just seems like something you're not gonna be using 90% of the time, so it's just an inactive part of your toolkit

but when it does get used, it's obscenely unbalanced and overpowered

[rotund pasture]

to be fair why would you use it when the scopeshotting

[shy kindle]

which is just not a good way to design a skill at all

[fringe charm]

Damn the mag really is useless with rex

[shy kindle]

it's good with directive drill

seed barrage you can spam it very slightly faster with a backup mag or so

[short bridge]

diablo strike users

[rotund pasture]

i hope the alt r is something like a weaker but faster ability

diablo is balanced actually

[violet sorrel]

with seed barrage I like so wait for the volley between shots

[steep gust]

=_=

It's a hard truth

[languid adder]

insert well-timed preon accelerator shot

[violet sorrel]

instead of just spamming for a little more dps in exchange for half your m1 healing

[shy kindle]

hell, in a way REX is the only survivor that stacking backup mag is actually somewhat useful with, more than the others where you'll never (or shouldn't) have more than 3 charges at most active or else you're just not using your secondary well enough

[steep gust]

Imagine that getting negated because Engi got their hands on Defensive Microbots

Which one of the only ways is metamorphosis

Another is mods where you add microbots to the general items pool

Or Vengeance while playing with a Captain

[languid adder]

well then Engie cant do anything really

[steep gust]

Here's what pisses me off

[violet sorrel]

turrets have hitscan at least

[languid adder]

true

[steep gust]

Microbots negates nearly all of Engi's moves (As well as Arti's)

[rotund pasture]

i dont think turrets have hitscan
not the standard ones

[steep gust]

Turrets have hitscan

[languid adder]

if not then carbonizers are an option

and those are not bad

[rotund pasture]

both are good

oh man that reminds me of a guy who kept saying that carbons always get worse runs than stationaries

[fringe charm]

Woodland spirit with rex

[remote depot]

ive used woodsprite rex in the past

[hard zenith]

Imagine using turrets

[remote depot]

what can i say i like woodsprite

[hard zenith]

Actual crutch

[remote depot]

lmao

[violet sorrel]

yeah ruin is way better

[steep gust]

Wow Robert

[languid adder]

I know someone like this

they are a dingus

[steep gust]

_> Gauss and Carbonizers do the same amount of damage per second anyways

[remote depot]

before i could remember all the enemy names i just called them
-dingus
-dumby
-stupid
-dingus mcflingus
-dingus 2
-etc.

[fringe charm]

-Actual googoo gagaa brain

[steep gust]

It's jsut Carbonizers have more hits per second, 5, compared to Gauss's, 3

[remote depot]

all my enemies are dingus until i know their name

lizard dingus, big dingus, dingus mcflingus

[steep gust]

60x5 is 300 while 100x3 is 300

[rotund pasture]

WHAT
MATH
HOW COULD YOU

[shy kindle]

if you cant just stack 15 bungus to braindead cheese the game it must be bad

[languid adder]

that

[steep gust]

I really had to do it because, if you say carbonizers are bad then you be mean to my fellow engi brethren who do enjoy the carbonizer, do not disrespect my brethren

[rotund pasture]

that was his main point
"oh well you just place the turrets in a hidden spot with one bungus and they never die!"

[steep gust]

.... Why.... crazy fool, Turrets are there to take the heat off Engi's hide

[signal cipher]

you both are fools

turrets are there to triple the procs

[rotund pasture]

gabbo shut the fuck up

[steep gust]

oh hi Gabbo

[signal cipher]

LEXTRE I WILL LITERALLY TOSS YOUR SALAD

[uneven compass]

yeah, turrets are crazy for procs

[rotund pasture]

i dont like salads

[steep gust]

How are you Gabbo

[languid adder]

Always get Uke on Carbos

[rotund pasture]

get fucked!

[signal cipher]

bad now because of lextre

[hard zenith]

Simply use wungus

[languid adder]

because then you kick the shit out of everything

[rotund pasture]

get uke period
uke is good

[steep gust]

Be quiet the adults are speaking

Go sit in your corner

[rotund pasture]

yeah gabbo go sit in your corner

[signal cipher]

kid, cease

[white kelp]

kid

[signal cipher]

(derogatory)

[languid adder]

well yeah but they're extra good on carbs because of proc shenanigans

[steep gust]

Well yes, cause Carbonizers get 2 extra hits compared to Gauss's 3

[signal cipher]

the """"adults"""" are arguing about engineer turrets again

https://tmp.projectlounge.pw/bwcedulerd.gif

[violet sorrel]

carbos have .5 proc coefficient

[languid adder]

boofed

[signal cipher]

[violet sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-again-gif-23850209

[hidden saddle]

gd1 died for an entire hour is this real???

[signal cipher]

that was 100% a misclick but I find it really funny that it happened

[remote depot]

right, engi would be the argued about character if mando huntress and arti were gone

[rotund pasture]

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[signal cipher]

nah your discord is glitching

[steep gust]

_>

[hidden saddle]

damn it

[remote depot]

This
Large
minutes
your

[steep gust]

Sacrifice

[signal cipher]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/842763786875043840/929161784554823742/5D3DEF9D-0FA8-4509-884C-3302B43E3C8F.gif

[steep gust]

_>

[fringe charm]

Holy shit i just yote a dunestrider in the void at scorched acres lmao

[steep gust]

_>

[violet sorrel]

is yote the past form of yeet

[steep gust]

_>

[violet sorrel]

if so can you please stfu

[trim lance]

I don’t even use turrets

[steep gust]

_>

[fringe charm]

Why

[trim lance]

They just ain’t even viable

[hard zenith]

Bro is speaking tongues

[steep gust]

I wonder if one can play club penguin on the wayback machine

[remote depot]

oh yote is totally a word

[earnest prairie]

yoten

[trim lance]

Like they just suck so bad

[steep gust]

Uh huh

I feel like playing that Club Penguin card game

[remote depot]

im not gonna be carried by turrets smhg

[tepid parcel]

well

[fringe charm]

Thank you

[tepid parcel]

that sure was a run

[remote depot]

no problem

[short jewel]

engineer gaming

[signal cipher]

don't trust anyone
not even yourself

[steep gust]

Stares at two things that.... are wrong to me.....

[signal cipher]

yeah how did mult kill himself

[tepid parcel]

what wrong things

[tepid parcel]

umbra of mul t

[remote depot]

mul-t decided enough was enoughg

[signal cipher]

ohhhhhhhhh

[remote depot]

oh mul-t died to his inner demons

[tepid parcel]

i was in the trial of vengance

[violet sorrel]

question

[short jewel]

engineer gaming mastery unlocked

[violet sorrel]

10 death marks

why

[tepid parcel]

yes

[short jewel]

i'm feeling an acrid kind of mood rn but let me do some stuff first

[signal cipher]

should help with the umbras

[tepid parcel]

cause fuck.

[remote depot]

you know what i do when i see my inner demons? punch them

[tepid parcel]

thats why

[steep gust]

You do know Death Mark only affects duration if you get more than one right?

[tepid parcel]

yes

i had nothing better to get lmao

[steep gust]

....

=_=

[tepid parcel]

i planned on scrapping them and getting more clovers

[steep gust]

Holds head

You do you, my brain is screaming at me

[signal cipher]

you can't scrap with command

[trim lance]

Arbel

[steep gust]

He means using the pots, Gabbo

[signal cipher]

oh you meant bazaar

true

still can't scrap specific items

[trim lance]

Arbel