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any idea who the dlc people will be
not yet
perhaps soon 👀
we've gotten like one teaser when it comes to the survivors but its extremely vague
beating mithrix on monsoon is a myth created by hopoo to keep us playing 🗡️ 👀
skill issue
pretty sure chef
Miner
thats what they want you to think!!!
Obviously
my friend lied to me and said they had like 5 people in pc that are not on xbox
he said one of them were a sniper
theyre probably using mods
thats mods then
you can play as goku on pc
they are console only
and there are a LOT of survivor mods
😮
I screen shit
amazing
godlike
i did it!!
they mustve made the game harder, bc me and a friend used to be able to do it consistently
Holy shit
what the fuck is that

adorable 🥰
i don’t like it
its about lunars its about printers we use coins we devour put in the white take out the shaped glass and kill whats ours 😎
🗿
Stressful
that’s no good
But bro elden ring soon
its about lunars its about printers we hack coins in we take hours put in the scraps take out the lenses and take our clovers 😎
How are you tho?
my birthday i febryaru
give me mod?
Leaked Elden ring footage
🤙
Well
At least it's not terrible
Holy shit
42
Hi matti
How are you?
The voices
Gort
Predict who's gonna orbit who
A) Watermelon gets killed by black hole
B) Watermelon orbits black hole
C) Black hole orbits watermelon
Where is it?
"gd1 bad"
Correct!
bungus is pretty good food according to the log entry
it's 2:46 why am i not sleeping
שלום עליכם
Chat how’s it going?

You did it on easy?????
Do it again monsoon
Can I just say how awesome aesthetically this game is? Very BOTW-inspired look
Yea
is it me or is bandit's ult unlock is kinda... meh
That’s called cell shading
Which is more of wind wakers thing 
The rimlighting is rly pretty too
Or the "sobel lighting"
I play at 30 fps so I can crank up the graphics settings
Btw uh how do I get a class/survivor role
In this disc
#role-assignment t!selfrole get artificer
Artishiter
no
k
hooks on rex is like the one character where it's strictly worse
LOL this game is on google stadia
yeah
im sorry im sure that its like a valid way to play but its just a joke with me and my friends
But genuinely though, does this game have like an insane budget or are the art design/modellers just absolutely CRACKED because all of the models & environments are so well done and detailed
Yeah, but who even uses stadia 
current models look ok but have you seen the new stages
It's kinda like you mother
idk what the new stages are
Just for 10 bucks a month, everyone gets a turn
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1607890/Survivors_of_the_Void
Dev Thoughts #24 for December 2021 - Get the latest details on the upcoming Risk of Rain 2 Expansion: Survivors of the Void - coming in Q1 2022
Email me at Jonathan@hopoogames.com or message me @SeventeenUncles on our Discord: https://discord.gg/riskofrain2
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bonk
I think it’s a mix of the two
I think this was their first 3D game though
Hi creepz
I just bought risk of rain 2
Welcome to the club Jumper
Thank you
Get the survivor that's under commando
artificer good crowdfunder good huntress bad woolie bad
ok idk how this game works so ill take your word for it
do not play this character
(Don’t listen to them. Play at your own pace)
ok now im confused
Yo how are you?
Jumper theyre memeinf
Play among us
Uh
oh ok ill just pick whatever
Doing good. Just woke up and eating breakfast
why even join a game discord right after getting the game 
Nice
to play with / meet others that also play it?
You underestimate the internet Jumper
I’d highly suggest playing at your own pace and learning as you go
I'm sorry, but you have been misinformed
real
tbf lfg here is better than random lobbies

not that that's a high bar in the slightest
Connection terminated
Not by much 
well I usually dont have people trolling me the second I join other communities but I was gonna play at my own pace either way
I would know, I used to use the lfg channels
Jumper trust me, it’s this bad because they banned the meme channels
Welcome to GD1!
genuinely no one was trolling
huntress is bad
This is partly true
among us is in ror2
be careful once you have too many messages in gd1 you get locked out of every other channel
idk man people are saying im getting trolled others say im not, ill just find my own way around
same
nowadays I don't bc vc with strangers cringe
gup pfp opinion invalid
Protogen speaking
dont care didnt ask plus yourmother
ban you


?ban 639852938453581838
that's me!
Lmao I love seeing someone say ?ban and then look at their profile to see "Problematic"
Bbaaaaan
problematic role is pretty cringe and irrelevant
Yeah you got the role lmao
You have ascended
j
What's the best loadout for Merc?
Default aside from alternate R if youre experienced

Send me a pic of all of em again?
heheh

uhhh im ingame rn
You can't ss your current abilities you have equipped?
I mean if possible, but you're in game
usually I run alt/default/alt but default m2 is better if you can combo well
Yeah what phase rounder sent is basically the """"""""""meta"""""""""" if you can say there even is one
It's just effective in all areas really
I remember when I had problematic, but then I left the server and they refused to give it back
alt m2?
No alt R
should put some nsfw reactions on uncles comments
i wouldnt recommend using alt m2 if youre using alt r
this apparently also works from what I've heard, but haven't played it
No n*itro
I kinda thought you said commando for a moment cause I tend to mix em up frequently
Especially since I haven't played in a hot minute
Because I know a great one for commando
also, I keep hearing that you need to learn animation cancels for merc, what are the animation cancels?
Watch your language.
The Fun module is disabled in this server.
Can't post links with n*tro in them now
This mf Dyno said "Watch yo tone."
The Fun module is disabled in this server.
No fun allowed
The fun in question:

No fun
The fun module is disabled
https://c.tenor.com/PYINRDyDgCQAAAAM/speech.gif
1984
using third hit M1 -> M2/Shift allows you to carry expose into them
you can also use M2 during Blinding Assault (unsure if it works on alt) to interrupt it, which is usually better since you can stay on top of what you're fighting

yep
just read this guide, it's great https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2632486396
thanks boss
magic
hampton
How long did you spend on the stage?
8 minutes
Difficulty?
uh normal I think
I don't know then
AHH Dies
oh he’s dead
Bing bong
tasty rock?
Y'all better not be philosophizing
hey
Is the hole in the donut a part of the donut?
tesla bigger than jupiter, offtopic
yeah
yes, because without the donut hole the donut is not a donut
the tesla is too big
Is gd1 ethical?
no
absolutely not
gd1 =/= ethical
Well that was resolved rather quickly
malachite
Resolution?
I would like to say that I suck at this game
Suck at typing too
Is @honest garnet ethical?
Not a chance
Was meme chat ethical?
Deez are ethical
what is ethical?
Deez
what
Noooooo
Candice
???
Joe mama
😐
i am no longer ethical
Obamna
now your water supply has been replaced with piss
whats obamas last name
Let's fucking go
whale vs galaxy
piss kink
Fumo posting is BANNED
Fument
This one is funny
balls
the top question science couldn't answer... but math can
my logic is flawless
so are all my facts
"do you want to play with my balls?"
The book is cursed
bowling, football, basketball, golf, tennis ball
yeah
rex vibes
dev thoughts dev thoughts dev thoughts
dev thots dev thots dev thots
yoooooooooooooyoyoyoyo
special delivery??? fnaf reference??
red item multishop crazyyyyyy
Infusion on the other side of it
So we’ve seen 2 of the 3 new interactable, void cradle, that thing, and possibly lunar printer but idk
🙁
special delivery clash royale!
they're adding freddy to risk of rain 2
👁️ 👁️
i was here when it happened
new survivor, purple guy, new enemies, children
capybara remastered
wakan
fr??
No way????
hii
bruh
fr tho?

give them back
when no free nitrо :(
damn I was definitely going to click on the link :(
nitrо
balls
How
balls
dick
nitrо baIIs
nitrogen
the sex
hey what's the word for that one spherical shape that you play with in sports uhh i forgor
it doesn't work
ball?
h
Orb
@ocean mountain who do you main
Cuando
what
It didn't watch your language me
Duck bitches (several)
ohh
edge for a total of 6
hours
I agree with scorched acres' teleport plane
is your game ok
yes
why do you ask
why is scorched acres green
please install the basedest mod https://thunderstore.io/package/FMRadio11/StageAesthetic/
Epic stageaesthetics mod
is the dlc scheduled at Q1
yes
yep
ye
Most likely late February
any day now
technically this green doesn't exist yet but hopefully in 0.1.2/0.2.0/whatever I end up calling it
we could be finding out in the dev thoughts who knows
cool mod and i love you 👍
you should go back a number, i think that'd be funny
just increase the slow mode to stop the protest
True
whats so bad about 5 second slowmode anyways
it's slow mode
It is 1984
slow mode 1984 hours
stadia slow mode
what slow mode
Omfg
which one is it
The worst one but holy shit its rare
Blazing aspect is one of the good aspects
Ice
bad
Oh wait that's glacial
its ok
Yeah glacial is horrid
Ye i know
at least you explode into ice when u die
good item it synergyzes with dios
Based op
I Got dio
kill them back
YOOO
glacial is just a hourglass
wakan
yeah
What wakan mean?
hi
Ouh
Hi
W
L
H
noo :(
what are they attempting to eat
HEHEHEHAW GRR GRR GRR HEHEHEHAW
@wintry pumice
some kind of a slug or a snail i think
hee hee hee haw
is it spicy?
+ratio
Yo tengo
He arrives
hehehehaw
Hehehehaw
hehehehaw
i think it's more than spicy tbh
am i allowed to post the ratio copypasta
Idk
well idk
idk i can post the hollow knight thing
- L + ratio + wrong + get a job + unfunny + you fell off + never liked you anyway + cope + ur allergic to gluten + don't care + cringe ur a kid + literally shut the fuck up + galileo did it better + your avi was made in MS Excel + ur bf is kinda ugly + i have more subscribers + owned + ur a toddler + reverse double take back + u sleep in a different bedroom from your wife + get rekt + i said it better + u smell + copy + who asked + dead game + seethe + ur a coward + stay mad + you main yuumi + aired + you drive a fiat 500 + the hood watches xqc now + yo mama + ok + currently listening to rizzle kicks without u. plus ur mind numbingly stupid plus ur voice is ronald mcdonald.
+hehehehaw
+tunneller
+u main rex
don't care + didn't ask + you're white + cry about it + stay mad + get real + L + mald seethe cope harder + hoes mad + basic + skill issue + ratio + you fell off + the audacity + triggered + any askers + redpilled + get a life + ok and? + cringe + touch grass + donowalled + not based + your're a (insert stereotype) + not funny didn't laugh + you're* + grammar issue + go outside + get good + reported + ad hominem + GG! + ask deez + ez clap + straight cash + ratio again + final ratio + stay mad + stay pressed + pedophile + cancelled + done for + mad free + freer than air + rip bozo + slight_smile + cringe again + mad cuz bad + lol + irrelevant + cope + jealous + go ahead whine about it + your problem + don't care even more + sex offender + sex defender + not okay + glhf + problematic + yikes + gg no re + you're a random + who are you? + dogwater + 0 PR earnings + burn in hellfire + golden ratio + cope + White name + irrelevant + 0 PR earnings + chall me + Pokemon pfp + who asked? + Imo cope + mald + seethe + gg no re + cope again + ratio + counter ratio deflected + you're mother + you smell + ad hominem + assburgers + ratio again + cope + final ratio + golden ratio + don't care + still don't really care + you're a nobody + gg no re + yikes + cringe + go next + stay mad + next fresh + ratio + ratio again + mald + Imo bald + kys + ratio again + who asked + skill gap + player diff + project + movie theater projection + bot gap + my cat typed the n word + still don't care + final ratio + golden ratio + ad hominem + pisspoor gaming skills + white name + random irrelevant + 0 earnings + MAC pc gamer + fruity + gay + can't hear you + stfu + final final ratio + I'm on full scholarship to hardvard + literally related to Elon musk + I'm the child of a billionaire + cope + alcoholic construction worker + you build roads for me to drive my rolls Royce on + angry at world + personality defined by politics + old + bald + ratio + ratio again + cope + project + old + mald + stfu
Oh noes
radio
- u think crowdfunder is bad
+grrr + hehehaw +anime pfp
Same
Never said that
Is console version up to date as the pc version?
Oh god don’t troll face me
Pls tell me it is
it is, but has many bugs
Ur kidding
#ror2-bug-reports-console check pins 
when trolo
randomized items artifact still might be wishful thinking but maybe
Beetles
wait for q2 2022 it's getting rebuilt
oh god not the 
although it's gonna be fixed in q2 2022
Many bugs
Q2?????
i ate them all
quarter 2 of 2022
It’s gonna be free update right
I was gonna double dip on PlayStation, guess I’ll just wait
The second half of the first half of the year
Game’s $10 rn
Heeheehaw
the second quarter?
Hello china! I have some ice cream! I love ice cream! But, Survivors of the Void is even better than ice cream! finally it's coming today!
yeah i think so
The second half of the first half of the third quarter of the second half of the year
and then the paid DLC
Bing chilling
console rebuild?? probably free don't see them making people pay for a game fix
the expansion is going to be paid though
So is the console version like unplayably broken or is it like meh still can have fun
It is $10 rn and I’m bored as hell
wakan
hi
its mostly playable
If you play mm6 the bugs are very irritating
But other than that it's fine
What is mm6
try to stay away from fire elites
so true
Monsoon mithrix 6
Micky mouse 6
Damn I guess I’ll just wait for the fix
Meeshkamooshka6
(minutes)
Mickeyyyy mouse
It'd be nice if the game gave me any crit glasses
mickey mouse monsoon stage 16 boss
suffer
Or didn't put overloading lunar wisps
Old commencement 😔
hey wait what the fucj
mystery red item in a multishop?
with an infusion in the same shop?
It doesn’t look like a multishop
this is definitely making me believe in the idea of a fucked up item rarity artifact
it is literally a multishop that fell over
yea
and one side blew up
at least it'd fit 17uncles mentioning something along the lines of us not caring about lunar printer once we saw dev thoughts
he said that somewhere?
the item capsules are the same shape you dingus
theres a thing on the top and one of the capsules exploded and came off
thats the only difference
that definitely makes it sound like an artifact
It looks pretty distinct from a multishop. Perhaps it’s similar, but it is probably something separate
It is literally an altered multishop
Hell maybe they got a graphical update
speaking of multishops, cool multishop fact- on abyssal depths, sirens call and sky meadow, multishops will never contain white items, only greens (or oranges on meadow)
sundered grove is a nightmarish hellscape of pain and suffering so unlike the other 4th stage counterparts, it can still have white ones afaik
sundered can have white terminals?
The wiki doesnt say it cant. I could be wrong though hence the afaik
I'm like 99% sure it has them yea
E
though it also doesnt say that it can have greens and im pretty sure it can?
A
stadia take your fucking stage back
grove aint that bad
yes it is
its really not
scavenger stage 4 😳
its not bad its just objectively the worst so like
objectively?
nvm I'm wrong
yeah
no other map in ror2 has the amount of annoying ass verticality
theyre not necessarily mutually exclusive
its credit budget on average is worse than abysmal so cry
i still hate abyssal much more
the worst map for gameplay is prolly like
distant roost or wetland
both stage 2s can have both whites and greens afaik
Green multishops can spawn on both stage 2s
not wetland
maybe rallypoint? idk
distant roost and wetland dont have those annoying roots
wetland doesnt have sightlines, rallypoint and distant roost have fewer items
roost by far worst
fair enough. I'll try a few more resets
bad roost spawn can just snowball into bad run
Roost is either worst or best depending on which variant you get
its never best
Roost is like the second worst stage but Sundered is still worse to navigate by far
No other stage has long thin platforms to navigate
wut
The roots
they arent that thin, unless youre talking about the one circling the tree
even if you fall, the time loss doesnt really matter
Im talking about the ones adjacent to the tree that lead to the other platforms
Default Roost has plenty of shortcuts for ease of traversal and usually a pretty good amount of items.
sometimes its a bit lower but this is fairly rare
guys its commando
Its still not fun to navigate
male artificer
fail
now ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
ror1 hive cluster 
ok yea I've only seen green multishops from like 6-7 versions of grove
Idc about time loss but if the stage is fucking annoying I dont wanna play on it
spafffffff
Alt roost is just way too big for a stage 1
granted I've only seen 3 multishops total due to how spread out interactable spawns are lol
Spafnar why did you flushed that
someone should prob update the wiki then. i would but im busy rn
Is that the map that you had to run super far if you fell into the bottom
Yeah
🐈
also ladders that apply slow if you overlap them 😔
Male artificer
oh yeah nothing will ever be as rage inducing as hive cluster
I actually hated ladders and climbing in ror1
There was a lot to hate about ror1 mobility
but in general ror2's stages are never as bad as ror1s for navigation
everything is way easier to get to, theres less godawful platforming or ladders or whatever
well theres no ladders period
hive cluster skin for abyssal depths so the worst stage can look like the worst stage 
and the stages are more compact because the third dimension means they dont have to be as fucking wide
Ror1 infusion
Ladders upset me bc i would always somehow grab one while in combat and not realize why tf i cant shoot or move anymore
Sundered Grove fits better both in the worst stage sense and in the "i could probably just chroma-key the blue to orange and be done with it" sense
seriously. you ever get lost on a fucking 2D plane?
Depths is a pretty good stage imo
yeah it sucks
yeah i dont mind depths
sundered grove > abyssal depths with cave tp
last ror1 stage is good you can’t change my mind
spafnar!!!! hiiiiiii
abyssal depths is fine because most things arent a chore to get to
I think depths having extra loot when the cave is open is definitely a good thing
and there isnt a single bouncepad that takes you all the way to the other side of the map if you mistakenly run into it
unironically though I vibe with it
like fucking why
looks good
maybe with a bit less pink though
And if a cave teleporter is that bad you probably need to practice more
can you make blue depths btw? it looked really good with my post processing dll swap 
The only teleporter locations I hate are the ones that spawn the boss in jackass areas
Wetlands
Like when I had a grovetender in scorched acres all the way on a different platform
blue depths would probably look better than the yellow one I currently have tbf
So I had to go sprint over to a bounce pad
Love having to leave the teleporter to find the heckin boss
blue cave looks amazing
Or when youre on Roost and you get a stone golem ABOVE you wtf
Magma worm?
Magma worms can be annoying
Worms barely do that shit anymore
Unless they spawn under you
They won't kill you, just end your run by running away across the map and wasting your time
also have you added this yet?
They dont prioritize drones as much iirc and even if they did, every drone will be near you
So who gives a damn
one sec
Like its been eons since I've had magma worms run away
Youve never been decimated by instant 6 burn bc a worm spawned directly on top of you if you think worms cant kill you
Doesnt help that they usually die pretty fast iirc so that doesnt give em time to run
messed with fog a bit and added rain
Worms are much easier to distract now but theyre very aggressive and will absolutely try to slam you into the ground if given the chance
oh nice
you were right though night plains looked a lot better than I thought it would initially
skybox transfers over well
I'm calling you out
im voting you out
I feel like a lot of peoples opinions on some parts of the game are based on shit that got changed ages ago
Scorched acres is good
like people still reaaalllly overvalue osp i think
because of the old shaped glass meta
Hehe imma print 2 shield gens and leave it like that
on lfg, does having item stats mod counts as vanilla or modded? 
vanilla
you can get unmodded version mod and play with vanilla peeps
I tried the saw and nailgun conbo on mul-t but i feel like the saw is pretty much useless. Sure it increases accuracy when dual wielding, but I can't reach anything bc if no verticality
Of no*
i guess you couldnt survive… five nighrs qt fredddddies
I mean I use the thing that showes me how much chance/time stuff works cause no idea how some items works yet
nighrs qt
nothing besides that is running
Saw on mult is only practical for being in the enemy's face already so like
only works in power mode if youve already closed the gap since youre so slow
Probably
double saw
Id imagine its an effective combo on most bosses to use nail and saw power mode since basically every boss but Mith doesnt move
doube saw power mode
I beat the primal vault boio
Saw takes what mult is already good at and makes mult better at it but gives up on a little of the generalized use of nailgun that covers mults weaknesses
I heard powermode saw/ nailgun has the highest DPS potential out of all characters but I feel like it's not that strong
Soul
powermode is just free crits
Merc felt really nice
personally i would never run it outside of co-op
basically
except it stacks with crits...
flurry
👄
Double saw has the best dps of any character i thought?
I cant use flurry to fire a slow rifle
I mean yes but its also suicide if youre not in co-op
But u can't do shit against wisps
homeless guy high on crack
because you cant kill flying targets
skill issue

me watching myself plummet to my death in eclipse
wow, hilarious AND original!
might need to screw with fog color a bit but stormy roost also turned out pretty well
but true
pls add weather
How tho
wait is that the storm roost i suggested?
Its easy to mitigate a lack of range by stacking leeching seeds scythes and crits and for flying enemies get some gasoline ukuleles and razorwire
no way its the Lost Forest
Unless you're running command, gl with getting those consistently
Mult is fine
And gasoline isnt rare
liiterally get one gaso or one razorwire
Saw mult
lol just find a printer
Yesterday
Armor plates are a good defense item
its easy to win when stacking [specific green item 20 times] and [specific white item 10 times]
What abt the flying bells, they take more than a single gaso 🦍
wakan
Feather
what
:)
equipment, feather, they also fly down
And you also have a secondary
you can wait for flying enemies to come down, just saying
birb
double saw is still cucked by bandit's base dps with shotgun
or you can go above them
Ah yes Ion Surge is my favorite MUL-T skill
there is terrain in this game
saws pull u up like close range grapple
Mult has the lowest base damage
if u dont have the skill to be able to saw from wisp to wisp leave the server
Mult wisp hopping tech
leave gd1 at least
double saw is worse for singleplayer because its a huge limitation in exchange of practically something that wont make a difference, more proc dps is definitely not what youre missing and having so much is nearly pointless (you dont need more proc dps when you have 1400%+ and you destroy everything anyway)
In multiplayer double saw is way better, not only because your teammates can cover your lack of range, but also because the extra proc dps actually gets to be relevant because enemies have huge fucking scaling to the point mult no longer necessarily destroys everything
Enemies scale hp in MP?
Man wrote a whole essay
I thought they just spawned more of em
It's all fun and games until Mul-T saw mainers run up to a wisp
yeah shit is tankier and harder hitting. Also combat shrines are fucked in multi
I've never had a problem with combat shrines in MP
just gone one shot by a blazing parent 
Good job
Mithrix watching helplessly as I skip the pillars by lunar wisp hopping to him
maybe in duo theyre fine
Unless its like, one dude with gouge rolls a chance shrine 8 times

I mainly play duos, prob that then
one time an arti guy spammed combat shrines in a game i was in and we died to all the elite elder lemurians
but in big mp lobbies they are severely above the lvl of normal enemies so their damage is braindead and their hp is too much
double saw
essence saw
That or I largely overestimate singleplayer due to co-op scaling
Is there like a steamguide ranking the characters based on their DPS potential 🦍
In large mp lobbies you are expected to all fight together
cap beacon cancel bottom text
DPS potential doesnt mean everything tho Kap
Technically captain has the highest dps potential with marco canceling
i dont need luck i have skill 😎
how soon
whats marco cancel
I need to know the exact dates smh
I j kinda wanna see what's at the bottom of the barrel
does anyone have marcos.mp4
hello gd1 do you like rndthursday? i recenly found him and i love his videos
Rex's DPS isnt exactly very high iirc but hes still very strong because his shots apply Weakened
Huntress
he's aight
he's funny but his takes are garbage
depends on whether single target or multi target
what you need to know for single target is
early game mult : jdjfkjgidjfksjfej
rex / mult : very high
huntress : insanely low
he takes his humor from Ludwig for sure
I watched woolie's vids and he said she was #1? 🦍🦍🦍
his takes on the game you mean? or like his jokes in general
Basically you can use your beacons and cancel them quickly to skip the m1 reload entirely
woolie is uhh
Huntress's flurry has the worst base dps but it scales better than strafe
his takes are horrendous and he manages to play for thousands of hours and still be bad at the game
completely wrong in every single tierlist video he makes 
i just called that beacon cancel
LMAO
game takes
Now if you have like the god flurry build her dps IS insane
What's a proper tierlist
no lol shes substantially lower dps than commando with crit
Flurry proc dps is garbage
Which I'd guess might be why Woolie put her there? But that isnt necessarily the likeliest ourcome.
Flurry with command is great
Check pins for lunar tierlist
ehh all alt huntress is still below average dps
Yeah but i call it macro cancelling bc it requires a macro to get the potential 14400% dps
you need way too much crit for flurry to actually start making huntress deal ok damage yet its still way lower than every1 elses
You dont get six stacks of predatory instincts from 1 mando crit 
Yet he still deals more damage and attacks faster
Massive skill issue
Hence why I stated "if you have like the god flurry build". This shit aint consistent without Command.
i tried labbing beacon cancel and i sucked
bacon cancel?
Isnt no crit captain m1 more dps than flurry full crit lol
Im not saying Flurry has good dps I'm saying it CAN
How does mercenary's dps hold up vs the other characters?
huntress mains explaining how she has actual dps if you look hard enough
base flurry :
230% dps | 1.6 proc rate | 160% proc dps
base strafe :
300% dps | 2.0 proc rate | 300% proc dps
base double tap :
600% dps | 6.0 proc rate | 600% proc dps
........
max crit flurry :
920% dps | 3.2 proc rate | 644% proc dps
max crit strafe :
600% dps | 2.0 proc rate | 600% proc dps
max crit double tap :
1200% dps | 6.0 proc rate | 1200% proc dps
Flurry with max crit is still very much worse, and it actually has less dps than captain m1 without crit. Both flurry and strafe are irredeemable garbage except strafe isnt as disgusting early game and flurry at least has a chance to make huntress less painful, but its proc dps is still very much the same as max crit strafe
I did some math a while back and found out that if you take have 20% crit with flurry you are doing just over 300% dps while with strafe youd be doing 360%
his aoe dps is great but you have to go out of your way a lot to make his single target feel good
about average if optimal loadout and good at merc
Is this factoring in more than just 10 lenamakers for flurry vs strafe
(ww ba sw)
Ye
Is it factoring predatories
Aoe dps is great, single target dps is terrible for unexperienced players that dont know tech and average for those who do
Is there a youtuber who actually makes good guides? Literally everything I've heard here contradicts everything i heard from woolie lmao
predatories suck dude
no
Predatories can be good
striker was hopeful but gave up
But they are quite overrated imo
It varies between character.
races and dispute origin just edit vods
predatory instincts is nice if you don't want 10 shots of crack
Written guides then? 🐒
charlie had some good ones
But Huntress's flurry shoots 6 normal shots when she crits instead of 3 crit shots. Meaning the game counts it as 6 crits and gives 6 stacks of Predatory Instincts.
Predatories are good but I fucking hate the item display throws off my whole drip
but they are somewhere where dont know where
Commando and mult (with nailgun or saw) with predatory are pretty good
just play the game, you'll figure it out, it's not a hard one
no but predatories arent a particulary good item, attack speed is worse than other dmg boosts for not being multiplicative with itself and not affecting her ballista or glaive as well
Its entirely not a saving grace. Plus predatories can only make it " sometimes " go over strafe but not double tap or vulcan shotgun
I'm okay at the game, got all the achievements and everything, but I wanna see some like guides where ppl do the math on which characters are 'meta'
Ballista

Attack speed affects the speed at which glaive comes out
The ballista or glaive you arent fucking factoring in?
flurry duration is like 1.3s right
In every game I play i always like to min max
mul-t n loader are meta
I forget the exact value
I am factoring in. Im saying predatory and attack speed isnt as good because it does nothing for these moves
Rex isn't?
Meta doesnt fucking matter anyways
I thought Rex was super good
true
There’s no meta every character is good
So dont bother Kap
rex is slightly below mul-t and loader
loader my beloved

Literally every character can perform well
move rex to a tier above bandit and beneath the others
he can instakill awu and cheese final boss with huge heal and buffs the whole team like hello
Huntress is worse than everyone else sure but shes still not bad in any sense.
assuming 1.3s for flurry (which I'm pretty sure isn't exact but w/e)
commando fires six shots in 1s so predatory wouldn't help her case
I dont like counting heretic since she isnt a normal character
Not disputing that, I actually like playing commando, but I wanna know the best
loader
thanks for letting me know fellas
loader wins the game. thats really it.
and mul-t cannot die
but that can very easily get boring
Loader for speed mult for everything else
loaders pretty equally unkillable tbh
at least mul-t has scrumptious amounts of tech
Id drop bands to A tier since there are plenty of situations where they do basically nothing for you
The meta is getting good items
which is not needed ofc, but neat
Mult doesnt remotely have the burst damage Loader does
huntress for speed since she has #1 any% 
I'll see it when I fucking believe it
and all items are good
so playing the game is meta
Pretty much
I said that backwards
I'd argue that commando is an S
it was beaten but mult can be faster if played to his absolute limits
Yeah the situation where theyre useless is when you run supressive fire
MUL-T:
- Double Rebar
- M2 sprint cancel
- Nailgun boosting
- Using Saw in Transport Mode
- Using Red Whip while firing Nailgun/Saw
- Using Nailgun while frozen
- Firing Nailgun/Saw while in Strides
- Firing Nailgun/Saw while in Volcanic Egg
- Second slot Primary inherits the Bloom of the first slot in Power Mode
- Power Mode resetting M2 completely
- Getting frozen in Power Mode and ending up dual wielding while out of it
- Double Nailgun Power Mode frame perfect Transport Mode boost
- Speed shenanigans with Milky Chrysalis and Transport Mode
milky chrysalis and frame perfect boost
Doesnt Loader also skip Commencement's pillars? How the fuck does Mult?
Depressive fire vs wack grenades, who will win?
I cant imagine its very quick
Grenades, much better
wack grenades ez
bird guts
how do you pronounce planula 
Ruin.
Planula.
any% (and most ror2 speedruns) is played with an older version of 1.0 so pillars don't exist
I think soup fire is meh and needs a buff
btw, how do you get the tags on your name in the server
trash (one syllable)
ruin has come to our family commando
ahh of course
thanks, i missed that
Isnt it faster to play anniversary version and just fly up the tree tho
gonna pull my hair out if people say nailgun boost is valid one more time
Commencement skip is referring to using mobility to get to mithrix without charging pillars, with enough attack speed mul-t can fly up there
holdout zone tho
nailgun boost is valid
Here is my biased personal tier list
anniv escape sequence is like a 1-2 minute time loss
Wtf
I guess
Oops I responded to the wrong thing
fear despair amongus etc
diablo jumping is more practical
Headstompers in D? Interesting
warbanner in D
Fireworks in F, gonna feed to reaver crabs
Steak is honestly better than people think
I need to reassemble my item tier list at some point it has some weird takes
Woahhhhh 25 hp
25 health can save you
The thing about item tierlists is that a lot of items are very situational
Like Backup Mags
the only time its good
A Backup Mag can be really good or it can do nothing based on what character you are.
So can trading it for more damage to kill things before they have a chance to kill you
solus boss item mad underrated
Backup mag on Artificer? Pog. Backup mag on Captain? 
I almost never feel the effect
how
Maybe 1 for wisps and thats it
how
backup mag on cap is alright imo
Plates slap
what do you guys think 
Who are you even stunning
Maybe im biased because bandit
can consistently keep something like elite elder shocked for diablo
Why stun the enemy when I can just shoot them?
also i literally got like
8 backup mags and 4 syringes on arti 2 days ago and it was less dps holding down m2 than doing normal rotation
I can gaurentee that running around without raps is very noticeably different from running around with 1 rap
I didnt put the heresy items on there except ruin but hooks S tier
Youre going to sit there for 20s waiting for diablo strike
Again im biased
Hooks is the best heresy item
granted shock beacon works just as well for that purpose and actually has range so eh
I think gas is the best item in the game!
Again, it varies. You wouldnt take hooks as Loader or Artificer.
Yes
Every heresy item is situational
imagine not taking hooks on loader 
fuel cell is in C
fuel cell, dio, shrine of blood, instant pbaoe damage, recharge dio and repeat
But i wouldnt take any heresy items on those characters either
it literally cannot be though, unless it hits the cooldown or you were super unlucky with procs
assuming you had 4 syringes you'd have at least 1400%~ dps and thats beyond her normal rotation dps. Even moreso proc dps where its only 730$~
dio is in C
why
without question imo
it smells
dio isnt very useful to good players
Dios is bad imo bc you are objectively never planning to use it
dio is in c because it only has an affect when you die
the only tier list I will accept is this https://i.redd.it/cwfmyjen8rh71.png
Ruin is absurdly strong as Commando and is suicide as Engineer. Strides slaps as Commando but is suicide as Loader. Hooks is great on Commando but is terrible as Rex.
so if you play right you dont need it
fake im better than this whole chat
Yes I replace 3/4 of my skills as commando with heresy skills when given the opportunity
hooks arti and rex are probably the only ones where it's an unarguable downgrade
probably merc as well since it removes his best combo tool
tesla coil should be number 1
Loader?
4/4, become bird
