gd1-nullified

[analog narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-smoking-swag-hard-gif-24388910

[low hemlock]

sans undertale in mortal kombat (real)

[solid siren]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-gif-24433817

[winged ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/kjaro-band-kjaros-band-ror2-risk-of-rain-gif-22033557

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain2-donkey-kong-sundered-grove-huntress-gif-22326293

[unborn adder]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain2-risk-of-rain-ror-ror2-void-fields-gif-22946206

[winged ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-lost-risk-of-rain2-confused-gif-23242369

[winged ferry]

fr

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain2-gif-23239532

[mystic pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain2-genesis-loop-gif-23126415

[signal cipher]

alright gd1 time for my biweekly ror2 run

[neon perch]

can anyone help me with risk of rain one

[winged ferry]

spam random artifacts during the cool down

[signal cipher]

what cooldown

[stable sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-fumo-cirno-jumpscare-gif-22884418

[mellow cradle]

Ahhhhh! (I’m screaming in pain and misery)

[winged ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/white-woman-jumpscare-fnaf-security-breach-security-breach-vanessa-white-woman-gif-24205880

[long ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Ydb0ohETc

[low hemlock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/841120169942056961/930612831433416724/motivate.gif

[shy kindle]

the fuck is a fumo

[low hemlock]

your mother

[long ravine]

You

[vital coral]

Shitty overpriced doll

[long ravine]

Not shitty

Funky

[indigo river]

Which cgaracter has the highest damage potential?

Character *

[long ravine]

MUL-T

[indigo river]

That's not mul-t 🦍

[long ravine]

Loader

Or maybe Captain with Diablo Strike

[indigo river]

I meant dps wise, those are just pure burst, no?

[stable sorrel]

the fuck is a gup

[shy kindle]

one of the moderators' testicles

[solid siren]

mult highest dps

[stable sorrel]

mult highest dps

[indigo river]

Double rebar?

[long ravine]

Double saw power mode

[stable sorrel]

power saw insane

power saw in slot 1

[solid siren]

saw nail powermode is optimal

[indigo river]

Saw nail dual wield?

[stable sorrel]

ye

[long ravine]

yES

[stable sorrel]

because nailgun's accuracy is inherited from the real M1 slot, saw, which has very tight accuracy.

Nailgun becomes a laser beam

[indigo river]

🤨

I gotta try that

[stable sorrel]

it's cheese

incredibly high DPS and accurate tho

plus you get saw for up close DPS

[white kelp]

@forest widget

[indigo river]

I haven't tried dual wielding yet, not at my pc rn, how does it work? Like passive or

[stable sorrel]

it's the special

instead of swapping weapons you just pull out both

[indigo river]

Right but is it passively active or

[solid siren]

holding m1 fires first slot, holding m2 fires second slot

[hidden saddle]

GUP GUP GUP GUP GUP GUP 🧡 🍊

[solid siren]

it's a skill with a cooldown

[indigo river]

Ah

[stable sorrel]

a low CD

[solid siren]

stays on until you exit it manually

[stable sorrel]

yep

[solid siren]

also it refreshes all of your m2 stocks

so you can do stuff like this

[stable sorrel]

you get some armor too

[indigo river]

If i go into shopping cart mode, do i exit dual wielding?

[stable sorrel]

yes

[long ravine]

Yes

[stable sorrel]

but the CD is like 5 seconds before you can go into power mode again

so you can reposition with shopping cart mode

[stable sorrel]

and then start blasting again

I didn't even know it refilled grenade

[indigo river]

Is there anything that comes close to its dps or does it blow its competition out of the water

[stable sorrel]

uhhhh

[hidden saddle]

rein sniper

[stable sorrel]

I'm pretty sure MUL-T is just the highest damage in vanilla

[indigo river]

Gotcha

[stable sorrel]

he has a lot of strong loadouts

[long ravine]

Captain can technically out DPS mul-t

But you need a macro

[stable sorrel]

yeah with diablo right

[long ravine]

M1 cancel

[solid siren]

14400%

[indigo river]

U got a link for that macro?

[hidden saddle]

who needs exploits when you can use soldier syringe

[indigo river]

👀

[solid siren]

mult can also be the fastest survivor but it's frame perfect

[stable sorrel]

nyoooooooooooooom

[solid siren]

he can also fly with double nailgun powermode and attack speed

[solid siren]

do triple rebar with powermode and some cdr

[forest widget]

😼

[stable sorrel]

MUL-T is such a Chad

[solid siren]

use saw with red whip and in transport mode

use nailgun while frozen

dual wield without being in powermode

[forest widget]

terrifying

[indigo river]

How did u do the speed thing

[forest widget]

too much zany, not enough cat

[indigo river]

Like go vroom

[winged ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[signal cipher]

why the FUCK DID I TAKE NADES

[forest widget]

how did you mess up a run that good

[winged ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-cat-mad-going-insane-going-crazy-gif-24274574

[signal cipher]

I took nades

[solid siren]

🤨 🤨 🤨 🤨

[winged ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/death-grips-mc-ride-the-voices-you-might-you-might-think-he-loves-you-for-your-money-but-i-know-what-he-really-loves-you-for-gif-23966519

[scarlet sail]

nades fans
strange people

[undone dock]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-tissue-gif-22242558

[signal cipher]

and I got the funny vagrant instead of the other 2 stage bosses that would have both been grounded and ready to be hit by my fucking nades

[forest widget]

nades fans when they whip and they nae nae and they do the worm

[shy kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/voices-are-real-jack-nicholson-nod-yes-the-shining-gif-16412513

[signal cipher]

I'm so pissed

[winged ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-are-getting-louder-gif-24118063

[undone dock]

are you shitted

[solid siren]

I wish suppresive was useful at all cause it's more fun imo

[signal cipher]

Not yet

[long ravine]

Oh my goodness gracious

[forest widget]

ok??? who wanna square dance

[long ravine]

Nades are fun as hell when you get a brilliant behemoth

Cuz the explosion is scaled off the sweetspot

[stable sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[stable sorrel]

I just came from this video

[long ravine]

Lemme do it on an elite golem

[signal cipher]

second run already lookin' good

[winged ferry]

My commando god run was ended by freezing 😔

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-losing-my-grip-on-reality-i-have-gone-clinically-insane-my-descent-to-madness-is-complete-ive-gone-completely-mental-i-am-beyond-the-point-of-no-return-gif-23191724

[weary ridge]

obliterated on monsoon for the first time ever and didnt get muh mercenary mastery

i am blowing my brains out with a 12 gauge shotgun

[undone dock]

if atg so good where atg 2

[undone dock]

ZAMN

[white kelp]

[trail matrix]

wait can someone explain?

how?

[stable sorrel]

zamn

[stable sorrel]

2021 ended already

stupid idiot

[signal cipher]

oooooooookay then.

[stable sorrel]

is COOM

[signal cipher]

triple mountain shrine spawned a regularass imp overlord and like 6 elder lemurians + overloading lemurians

WHAT?? I JUST SPAWNED IN

[stable sorrel]

top 10 pictures taken moments before disaster

[muted carbon]

Overloading worm before hahaha? That’s not something you see every day

[stable sorrel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/925198121049407519/543FA722-B656-42B5-868B-154C803C3EEC.gif

[dapper geode]

coconut doggy

[winged ferry]

Rip

[stable sorrel]

how

[weary ridge]

i assume i fucked it by doing twisted scavenger

but i thought i would get it regardless

[stable sorrel]

that shouldn't matter

did you die to the scav?

Kipkip has fucked many'a run, with many'a more runs to go.

[weary ridge]

wipwip

define the scav..

[ancient garnet]

Bruh it's 2014 in 2 weeks

Time goes by fast

[quasi cradle]

important question

anybody here spotted a member with a yu narukami pfp

please lmk their nickname if you have, i saw em in this server I know

[stable sorrel]

did you die to the twisted scavenger?

[weary ridge]

yep

i assume that matters

might or might not have read somewhere that i can die to the twisted scavenger and ill still get the mastery as long as i obliterate

[halcyon olive]

Pain i died to the scav but i never got the mastery

[signal cipher]

this is going well

[pure shell]

https://tenor.com/view/unexpected-unexpected-gup-post-this-gup-gup-risk-of-rain2-gif-24352777

[true pond]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[pure shell]

😠

do not laugh at me or I will tell my mom you are being mean

[true pond]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-at-this-user-ryan-gosling-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-fail-meme-gif-22090542

[pure shell]

[signal cipher]

this is going EXTREMELY well.
Used the void reaver to get rid of AWU

[short frost]

Get a role in #role-assignment to embed links. Follow pinned if you are confused

[compact helm]

question for any who might see this, if you could do a crossover with risk of rain and any other game, what would it be?

[low hemlock]

Hi grovetender

[short frost]

Terraria

[compact helm]

i feel it

[low hemlock]

Elden ring

[compact helm]

commandosouls

[low hemlock]

New survivor: giant dad

[true pond]

Yes please

[compact helm]

wrecker of scrubs, drinker of dew

[forest widget]

no please

[low hemlock]

Power up the bass cannon

[true pond]

Was i the only oner th at played giantdad like a nice and caring father only to attack if i were to be attacked

[forest widget]

i would soul spear the shit out of you

[short frost]

Honestly why dont we just make it so you cant even message without having a role, it would stop bots and prevent embed fails

But then again, no more embed fail gifs

Then we could finally say nitr0

[stable sorrel]

Yes. You didn't beat the run: you died.
You can get mastery by obliterating, but the run isn't "ended" until after the scav if you do choose to go to A Moment, Whole.

[low hemlock]

Honestly, why don't we just delete the server
That would stop all bots and embed failers

[stable sorrel]

Do another run without beads and just oblit normally

[short frost]

Very true

[weary ridge]

fair enough thanks

[stable sorrel]

you can do it

That's almost as bad as the time I thought I could get acrid's unlock using the twisted scavenger and wasted an hour long run

[low hemlock]

Oh also it would make the moderators jobs easier

[short frost]

And their life too

[stable sorrel]

ONLY to discover on the wiki that twisted scavs don't count as scavs for Acrid's achievement

[low hemlock]

Why tho

[forest widget]

lol

[low hemlock]

That's dumb

[forest widget]

is it really easier to fight a twisted scav than a normal one though

[low hemlock]

If twisted scavs aren't scavs then elder lemurians aren't lemurians

[stable sorrel]

Hey man I agree

take it up with Hopoo Games

[short frost]

I wonder the biology of the lemurians, we never see the teenage phase in between the two, and why do they go from purple to yellow? I guess they're lizards so they shed their skin but like... it's such a drastic difference

[low hemlock]

Time to riot!

[stable sorrel]

Elders hit the gym

[undone dock]

elder lemurians are just taller lemurians idk what your on about

[stable sorrel]

they are ELDERS not teenage

[undone dock]

so taller

[low hemlock]

Elder lemurians are just that
The elders

[stable sorrel]

like very old

there's also flying lemurians too

[compact helm]

yeah but what does a teenage lemurian look like

[undone dock]

if elder lemurians are 6' then lemurians are 5' 11"

[short frost]

Lemurians and flying lemurians hate each other lol

[low hemlock]

Put emo hair on a lemurian and there you go

Lore accurate I swear

[pure shell]

never

[stable sorrel]

Evolved Lemurian

[short frost]

Ok

[compact helm]

wait, why do flying lemurians hate normal lemurians?

[stable sorrel]

who knows

but they are clearly not related to the elder lemurians directly

[feral swan]

why did the germans hate the jews?

[short frost]

Idk theyre just racist

[feral swan]

racist lemurians

[short frost]

Ah not a good time to send that

[stable sorrel]

racist lemurians

[low hemlock]

Why do I hate humanity?

[feral swan]

you play cards too much

[short frost]

Racist to all races

[forest widget]

ceremonial yellow paint bucket

[stable sorrel]

was it?

[compact helm]

cerimonial bananafication

[stable sorrel]

bana

https://tenor.com/view/snack-bananas-monkeys-cats-gif-21055918

[forest widget]

🙊

[low hemlock]

Banananananananana

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-banana-meme-rotating-banana-banana-faster-faster-and-faster-gif-18265963

[low hemlock]

Yo is that that dark souls game I've been hearin about

[willow bridge]

asshole enemy

[compact helm]

***P A I N ***

[stable sorrel]

tru

thats why they got replaced

with the vultures

[willow bridge]

by more annoying enemies (bronzongs)

[stable sorrel]

weezer

[low hemlock]

Blind pepsi tbh

[compact helm]

i dont even know how you avoid the flying lads when you fight them

[willow bridge]

you dont

just get teddies

[signal ember]

Wisps?

[compact helm]

at least in 2 you can aim up

[willow bridge]

evolved lemurians from ror1

[compact helm]

in 1 you struggle

[low hemlock]

At least in ror1 you can play as chef

[signal cipher]

lol ok that was dumb of me

[willow bridge]

you can in 2

[low hemlock]

Not in vanilla

[willow bridge]

yeah but modded

[compact helm]

i want Han-D in 2

[willow bridge]

there's a mod for that

[low hemlock]

Modded 🤢

[compact helm]

at least as equipment options for mul-t

[willow bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

mul-t and han-d are different robots br

[low hemlock]

Yeah

[compact helm]

they looked similar

[low hemlock]

In fact han-d is in ror2

[willow bridge]

yeah they're similar but different

[low hemlock]

He's in the character select screen

[compact helm]

han-d has 2 hands?

[feral swan]

you look similar to arnold Swartz.

[willow bridge]

and a hammer

[compact helm]

yeah

[willow bridge]

and microbots

[compact helm]

i said you could probably add han-d as an ability loadout for Mul-t

give him hammer

make hime green

and boom

han-d

[low hemlock]

Shattering justice

[compact helm]

i havent actually played him btw i just know he looks neat and has a hammer

[slate brook]

modded ror2 is great

[feral swan]

modded minecraft is great as well

[willow mango]

i do wanna play the original borderlands

seems like fun game

even though the ending sucked

[silent wadi]

Its the only way to make the game palletable

[feral swan]

original borderlands had great gameplay. even if it was a little samey

[stable sorrel]

It's decent

I never understood how it became so popular

[feral swan]

borderlands 2 delivered a fun story and character types but severely failed on the gameplay aspect in most parts.

BL3 was a middleground between the two, having a good gameplay design, ok story(personally didnt like it much) and some variability in playthroughs

if there was not so many baby management features in BL3, it would have been a great game despite the pretty shit story

[winged ferry]

I've played Borderlands 3 and I can say the gun-play was just a blast

also the weapon variety is fun

but it's also painfully unfunny, didn't laugh or crack a smile once in the entire thing, from what I recall at least

[feral swan]

the devs went waaaay too far trying to be comedic at all times.

[winged ferry]

Villains were also very bad....and then there's Maya

or whatever that girls name was

hated her, with a passion

[feral swan]

I can get the maya thing.

[stable sorrel]

the human is just too blunt

[feral swan]

btw, maya was the blue siren who got snapped

[stable sorrel]

no subtly or effort in comedic timing

BL1 at least has situations that buildup to a joke

same with 2

[young urchin]

I think Borderlands just has a very particular early 2000s punk comedic style that doesn't hold up anymore lol

[feral swan]

Bl1 had periods of when the game takes itself seriously, and then has comedy. Thats what made it pretty great.

[winged ferry]

I remember towards the beginning of BL3 where you are sneaking into this base and Claptrap was with you, and he was taking his sweet time trying to be "stealthy" and the game seems to think it's funny but im just like I-is this supposed to be funny?, because I am not amused

[feral swan]

BL2 1-upped that with Handsome Jack. He could be taken seriously at all times but what he did was so painfully cruel that it was funny at times

[stable sorrel]

BL1 wasn't a comedy game, it just filled in the downtown with comedy and that's what people remembered it for

but it just flanderized itself over time

[young urchin]

It leaned more and more into the "comedic" aspect of it

[stable sorrel]

ye

[young urchin]

Personally I never really liked the game's sense of humor

[feral swan]

Silithid in BL1 were a horrifying creature that you just loved to kill

[young urchin]

What WAS funny though is guessing what stupid bullshit they were going to say with my friends and being right 15 seconds later

[stable sorrel]

The first game just has "comedy" as a sub-genre or something

where they REALLY wanted the next ones to be funny

[young urchin]

The new Tiny Tina game looks great it's a shame that Tiny Tina has more than 1 speaking line in the game though

[feral swan]

classic snowball effect that fell off the mountain and broke on the rocks

[stable sorrel]

I don't think BL2 is that bad when it comes to its moment to moment writing

it has some decent black humor

3 is uhhh

[young urchin]

There's some goofy shit that was fun

[low hemlock]

You mother

[feral swan]

one line from BL2 will stay with me forever

"I will pay you to kill yourself"

[stable sorrel]

good point
one issue
||your mother|||| and I know your address.||

[young urchin]

171.25.398.21

[stable sorrel]

such a good line

[winged ferry]

tbh the Villains were my biggest issue, the Calypso Twins are just not it

[low hemlock]

Yooo
I know my address too

Hi seru

[stable sorrel]

oh yeah? post it

[low hemlock]

No you first 🥺

[young urchin]

I haven't played BL3 because I was fucking broke and incapable up until a couple weeks ago when I built my PC

Now I just don't think I care

Maybe if I can squad up on it with some friends

Also the Pre-Sequel got stale QUICK

[winged ferry]

Oh another thing I liked were the Vault Boss-fights, I mostly liked the designs on the bosses themselves

especially the big tree thing, which took me like 10-15 Minutes to kill why did it have so much health?

[dense kindle]

because

[feral swan]

best moment of calipso twins was troy chasing the old guy around.
1 problem with that though. He can literally teleport or phasegrasp.

[misty forum]

Calypso twins are trash

[feral swan]

badly written antagonists

[frail moss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/905304622934130698/tenor_8.gif

[young urchin]

Fun fact, the final boss of the Pre-Sequel had one phase for every element and then a final phase where it just nuked you constantly, all of which had the HP bar of a standard bossfight

[misty forum]

@frail moss end me

[young urchin]

It took like 40 minutes

[analog narwhal]

more like PlasmaPoor lol

[young urchin]

Basically every phase was the same

It was not good

[misty forum]

+rep

[low hemlock]

Hi flori

[feral swan]

pre sequel wasn't exactly known for being a good game :x

[dense kindle]

good old Empyrean Sentinel

[analog narwhal]

Hello

[fallen basin]

I JUST CLIPPED THROUGH THE FUCKING RELIQUARY

[misty forum]

I liked shoving my garbage into the grinder

[young urchin]

It's interesting because they had something cool and made it miserable

[fallen basin]

AND GOT CHAOS EARLY

[low hemlock]

How are you?

[fallen basin]

WHAT

[feral swan]

don't worry about it mouth.

[fallen basin]

its empty!

[feral swan]

juts a bug in the current patch of the game.

[young urchin]

All the environments were bland as hell, the zero gravity got more annoying than fun incredibly quickly, a lot of areas were way too open and hard to navigate so they just were not fun to play

[analog narwhal]

thinking about Elden ring

[young urchin]

Then the bossfights were HP sponges

[low hemlock]

Same

[young urchin]

Also this could just be me but I only found like 2 classes actually interesting

Athena and Claptrap were cool

The rest I did not care about at all

[frail moss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/905304622934130698/tenor_8.gif

[violet sorrel]

You can also just be funny and steal it before the event starts

If ur a big character

[fallen basin]

I am a big character so thats probably what DID it

Rammed into it as Mul-T

[unborn marten]

@violet sorrel is Omori good?

[young urchin]

No

[violet sorrel]

It's ok

[young urchin]

No it isn't

[fallen basin]

i tried omori and it was just. really fuckign boring.

[violet sorrel]

Imo you dont really need to play it to experience it

Especially with how long it is

[unborn marten]

You're not an Omori pfp I can't trust you

[fallen basin]

the horror wasn't effective at all and all the silly/endearing parts were not silly or endearing. for the first area at least idk if it gets better later

because i stopped playing because i was bored

[fallen basin]

feel like someone with an omori pfp is a bit biased

[young urchin]

The game isn't terrible and it has a few cute things about it but the main plot twist is a huge stretch and the combat and general gameplay loop aren't good enough at all to bother pushing through like 15-18 hours of basically just "quirky indie RPG about depression inspired by Earthbound"

[unborn marten]

https://c.tenor.com/gjevTkvSv5YAAAAM/ice-deep-fryer.gif

[violet sorrel]

I dont even really like omori I just think it's a good pfp

[fallen basin]

lmao fair

[winged ferry]

That guy's fired

i just died on drizzle difficultrjiodgjiojkgijwierj

[young urchin]

I have watched several of my friends play it in full and played like 60% of it myself

Pretty much all of our opinions are about the same

[unborn marten]

Hmmm

[violet sorrel]

And the fandom only has like 3 jokes

With most of them being major spoilers

[winged ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[unborn marten]

Ok, is undertale good?

[fallen basin]

artifact of chaos is funny because i keep lighting myself on fire with gasoline

[young urchin]

No

[winged ferry]

yes

[young urchin]

Undertale is about the same shit lol

[fallen basin]

undertale is an amazing game

[winged ferry]

I think it is, I would even go as far as to say I love it

[unborn marten]

Didn't play monsoon day one. Look what happened to them😔

[violet sorrel]

Undertale gameplay is a lot better than omori imo

[young urchin]

Deltarune is a genuinely good game and Undertale sacrificed everything about the gameplay for a decent narrative

[fallen basin]

overall funny, combat system is pretty fun, music slaps

[hollow violet]

claptrap these nuts

[fallen basin]

Arent Deltarune and Undertale very similar from a purely gameplay perspective

[young urchin]

He wants to become infertile 💀

[violet sorrel]

Omori is mostly strategy with a lot of rng vs undertale which is mostly skill (skill is more fun)

[young urchin]

Sort of? Not really? It basically just builds a LOT more on it and makes it better

I'm talking mostly the Genocide route

[unborn marten]

Is Omori just like, FF turn based stuff?

[winged ferry]

Undertale's gameplay works, in my opinion, I like how depending on how you play, it's either a tradtional RPG, or it can be not to dissimilar from a dating sim

[fallen basin]

i mean i like turn based rpgs like that and i still didn't like omori

[violet sorrel]

Yes

[fallen basin]

it does more than that kinda

[unborn marten]

😔

[hollow violet]

is that too much to ask

[young urchin]

The Genocide route is genuinely terrible and could have done way the fuck better in narrative and gameplay

[unborn marten]

Well, should I get Spelunky 2 then?

[violet sorrel]

It has the emotion system too but that's just glorified stats

[fallen basin]

you can do followups mid combat and theres like a rock-paper-scissors system with the emotion shtick

[winged ferry]

didnt play ror2 for 1 month

[young urchin]

Instead of making a very fun route that makes you feel bad about enjoying it because of the consequences it just makes a route that is completely miserable and doesn't even really make sense the more you think about it

[fallen basin]

but ive played games that DONT do more than that and still have excellent gameplay so thats no excuse for omori to be boring

[unborn marten]

Well

[winged ferry]

Your looking for a nice little indie game, i'd point in the direction of Transistor

[young urchin]

Genocide be like YOU'RE A TERRIBLE PERSON meanwhile literally everybody is trying to kill you

[unborn marten]

So far I've heard either it's really good or really bad

[winged ferry]

im not a monsoon person btw @unborn marten

[young urchin]

Undertale isn't terrible it just isn't worth it at this point especially if you already know how it ends

[unborn marten]

https://c.tenor.com/-wrmUJrUbeoAAAAM/emoji-disintergrating.gif

[winged ferry]

imagine not playing rainstorm

[fallen basin]

If you want an RPG i'd recommend jimmy and the pulsating mass which is a game 3 whole people have heard of

[winged ferry]

...Because your killing everybody, the monsters are defending themselves?, your losing me here-

[violet sorrel]

At a certain point they're not trying to kill you they're trying to stop you

[dire arrow]

rainstorm is at least the way the game is intended to be played

[unborn marten]

Imagine being a pc player and still needing to do rainstorm

[versed birch]

if you like turn based combat play Bug Fables

Bug Fables fun

[unborn marten]

Well considering your name I can't hold it against you for playing it

[sinful plover]

yes

[dire arrow]

oh i dont

[unborn marten]

See? They don't

[sinful plover]

I 100%'d it a few days ago

[fallen basin]

Genocide isn't self defense, it's... genocide. You're required to actively go out of your way and grind to get enough kills to do the genocide route.

[sinful plover]

very nice game

[young urchin]

Here's the way I see it

[winged ferry]

wdym needing

[versed birch]

I still need to 100% it, been distracted playing other games

[minor tusk]

genocide is actually all about taking all the candy from the candy bowl

[fallen basin]

TRUE

[versed birch]

such as Monster Train and Monster Hunter World

[young urchin]

You could make a route that is fun, generally unsuspecting and hiding the fact that what you're doing is wrong until the end when it stops and gives you a minute to think about what you're doing

[sinful plover]

have fun getting the high score in flower journey

[unborn marten]

wdym wdym needing

[minor tusk]

it doesn't matter if you senselessly murder everyone,

if you take all the candy you're a monster

[sinful plover]

the best part of bug fable

[fallen basin]

please sweet baby jesus can someone drop a fucking artifact key

[minor tusk]

no

[fallen basin]

hiding the fact that committing literal genocide is wrong

[young urchin]

This way you get to enjoy the game, and by the end of it all you get to self-reflect on what you did and feel bad that you enjoyed it

[dire arrow]

i cant stand rainstorm personally bc its so much easier to outscale everything as an experienced player
but for the average casual i cant blame people for not wanting to get their gut busted by monsoon

[versed birch]

ah yes my favorite game, Flappy Bird

[minor tusk]

i just wanna unlock purity man

[young urchin]

Not just the entire time drill it into your skull that genocide bad you bad and make a genuinely terribly designed game for the sake of narrative

[violet sorrel]

That's neutral route tho

[versed birch]

I can make a good list of Turn Based RPGs

[dire arrow]

youll get it eventually man

[minor tusk]

one day

[versed birch]

I enjoy the concept of turn-based a lot

personally.

[violet sorrel]

You have to go out of your way to get genocide, if you're doing it you are very concious of it

[young urchin]

They remove shopkeepers, basically every puzzle in the game, every line of dialogue is "broo you're so fucked up lmao", the music gets destroyed, the combat is easy until it's just completely impossible

[fallen basin]

yeah exactly. youre only going to get genocide if youre consciously trying to be That Guy™️

the route you want is... neutral.

[young urchin]

That's with the foresight of knowing what the game is though

[unborn marten]

Remember, monsoon

[young urchin]

No? Neutral says "man things ended but you probably should do it again without killing that one guy" with no further elaboration

[fallen basin]

neutral still has the silly while not abandoning the occasional intermittent "dude, what the fuck?:"

[minor tusk]

[winged ferry]

#ror2-game-questions is the channel you want

[dire arrow]

from what ive heard of the genocide route it definitely sounds like its intended as a "secret route" thats more for the novelty of it

[unborn marten]

To be honest, just practice, get used to it

I mean, "time per stage" can vary a lot
(Although you should aim for below 11)

There are a few general tips that could help you out, which I'm going to list, but you have to decide on your own play style

-The tp has orange/reddish particles around it.

-Spend less than 11 min per stage, everything below that is arguable, but unless you get 5 reds 11 ain't worth the difficulty, and honestly you would never take 11 to clear a stage anyway.

-Learn your character's skills.

-Remember the longer you take the harder it gets.

-Go to the void fields as early as possible if you are going to do them (there's a "Newt Altar which will spawn a blue portal near the teleporter if you use it, it places the portal after you beat the teleporter event).

-If anyone mentions dps in gd1 run away and never look back.

I have this copypasta

[random mulch]

To be honest, just practice, get used to it

I mean, "time per stage" can vary a lot
(Although you should aim for below 11)

There are a few general tips that could help you out, which I'm going to list, but you have to decide on your own play style

-The tp has orange/reddish particles around it.

-Spend less than 11 min per stage, everything below that is arguable, but unless you get 5 reds 11 ain't worth the difficulty, and honestly you would never take 11 to clear a stage anyway.

-Learn your character's skills.

-Remember the longer you take the harder it gets.

-Go to the void fields as early as possible if you are going to do them (there's a "Newt Altar which will spawn a blue portal near the teleporter if you use it, it places the portal after you beat the teleporter event).

-If anyone mentions dps in gd1 run away and never look back.

I have this copypasta

[fallen basin]

Always activate these fuckers

[minor tusk]

dont

dont do that

[fallen basin]

Makes the boss harder but you get more loot and the more loot is worth it 300% of the time

[winged ferry]

See why I said Game Questions channel is better

[unborn marten]

Do you have the other copypasta though?

[young urchin]

It's a huge missed opportunity and I feel like it could be far more impactful and enjoyable if they don't just make the whole route completely unenjoyable

[random mulch]

I have all of the copypastas

[fallen basin]

I am dead serious

[young urchin]

I guess what's there is fine

[dire arrow]

a good beginner tip i can give is to play fast as in get more items faster not complete stages faster

[fallen basin]

i enjoyed genocide

[versed birch]

I need to make a list of my favorite games

[young urchin]

But it could've been way better and more memorable

Hell could've generally handled the message better too

[fallen basin]

then again i can also consistently kill sans so i guess its probably not as fun if you actually struggle with the bosses

[unborn marten]

Go on then

[minor tusk]

there's a reason sans is the most memorable part of the genocide route

[unborn marten]

@fading cloud

[winged ferry]

The fact that Genocide route is "easy" is what makes it memorable, in my opinion

and of course, Sans fight-

[minor tusk]

no one does the genocide route for the gameplay

because it's boring until sans

and undyne is also cool

[young urchin]

Imagine being a regular RPG nut going in blind who grinds on enemies because it's what you do in RPGs and then the entire game does not have a difficulty curve at all

[random mulch]

When you're feeling really lonely and you don't know where to go

Come to the place, where they're likely on death row

We gotta beetle and a frog and lots of cum

You can hide if you want, but don't bother to run

If you bake a hot take you get thrown to the dogs

If you make a funny joke you get thrown to the mods

So where you gonna go when you're looking for some fun,

Certainly not; Game Discussion One

[young urchin]

It's balanced like shit lol

[fallen basin]

i think genocide does exactly what its supposed to do

[young urchin]

True Pacifist is fun though

[unborn marten]

Rex never thought of themselves as lonely, Rex had always had their plant. It was the only thing that mattered, all that existed, them and the plant.

But one day, there was no more plant

One day it simply vanished

And so, Rex wandered aimlessly, they ignored every chest because it didn't matter anymore: Rex no longer had a purpose.

It went on like this for two weeks, but finally, Rex stopped walking, and they simply stood, waiting for something, anything to happen.

In their final moments, Rex began to shut down, gradually turning off each system until there was nothing left...

But Rex didn't get the chance, because just when the robot was about to finish, something fell.

Rex considered ignoring it, seeing how close they were to death anyway, however, something told deep inside them told them to hold on.
...
Soon, Rex had their systems fully functional, allowing them to look around and search for the object that had fallen on them, so Rex looked, and soon found the object.

Behind them, was a plant, a rather strange plant.

[young urchin]

I like True Pacifist

[fallen basin]

like if youre committing LITERAL GENOCIDE then yeah theres not gonna be much thats all too threatening

[dire arrow]

start on easier difficulties and move up once you feel comfortable with your pace
on average you should be going around 7-8 minutes per stage when full looting but can be faster or slower depending on the circumstances

[solid umbra]

SAW

NADES

[random mulch]

Gah rainstorm is too difficult in vr and too hard anyway. I've watched tons of tips today and I still can't beat the first stage in six tries just now! The beetle queen is a free boss fight my arse!
I got wrecked by that thing twice in a row, once her and once the two golems and the tons of beetles. I didn't stand a chance. None of the tips are working. I know the theory of move fast, find the teleporter, try to move on in about 4 minutes etc etc but none of it works. Circling and kiting the boss never works, I just kite my way into a million other mobs.
It's too hectic but he makes it look soooooooooo easy and so does every one else. It's the first stage! How can I be this bad, it's so annoying. Talking about looping, yeah right I can't do stage one
And the unlocks are crazy complex, do this and that and this and then that just for a character, no way am I every gonna be able to do anything like that, it's ridiculous.
I've beaten stage 1 once in vr and that's it. Quite a few times in flat screen but never past stage 4. It's just too difficult and yet the videos show just circle and shoot to win. Well I do that and die to a boss in fifteen seconds every time so why don't they get hit but I do?
Been looking forward to playing after work all day but now I'm just annoyed and disappointed honestly. Not sure this game is fun. And what's with the no save during a run? What if I don't have a spare hour if I do actually have a good run? Some of us can't always play that long, hey Devs? Think of that eh?

[young urchin]

Basically what I'm trying to say is that it sacrifices being a game for a narrative that I don't personally think is done all that well

[winged ferry]

I mean it's single player, but Mul-T and Loader are meta right now

wrong reply

[solid umbra]

lo

[fallen basin]

VR??????

[unborn marten]

Nope, it's from this account @fading cloud

[dire arrow]

difficulty goes up faster on later stages

[winged ferry]

Difficulty Scales with time instead of stages completed

[young urchin]

I don't like that it's just there for the sake of making a point, I would rather it's done in such a way that you enjoy it and then regret your actions because it finally makes you realize what you're doing

[violet sorrel]

Tbf beetle queen is actually a threat now

[random mulch]

Heres why you're really fucking wrong

Firstly, ballista is extremely unimpressive due to the whopping 12 second cooldown, it can not save huntress from having the worst DPS in the game by a huge margin. It's band procs are bad because it's split into three hits so you only get to benefit off 1/3 of the attack with bands.

Now abilities that deal more damage than Ballista in a single use? Oh boy here we go.

Firstly we have captain's diablo strike and orbital probe. Next we have Transport Mode from MULT if you have high move speed, which is easy to get as it can be gained with multiple items + not to mention its great with focus crystal. We have Artificer's flamethrower at a whopping 4000%+ when you factor in the average of the burn damage, and bandit gets 4000% with his crit m1 right off the bat with burst, less but still more than ballista with Blast, also 2720% total on a hemorrhage-proccing Serrated Dagger swipe,and finally 3600% from behind on lower health bosses with Lights Out, or substantially more if he stacks desperado. Last but not least we have Loader's charged punch at equally as much (Except way better with bands and much lower cooldown), and Thunder Gauntlet at 3100% if both the direct hit and the cone hits. He also has his alternate special, at 2000%, on a much lower cooldown that also obviously benefits much better from bands.

Huntress DPS is extremely weak, much far behind every other character in the game. The only way she can do more damage than other characters is if you're bad with the later. Consider for a moment that Commando outdpses her entire base kit if he stays in close range holding m1, which starts out with a DLS of 666%.

But yes ballista > Arrow rain

[young urchin]

Which could just be a me problem but I think part of it still stands regardless

[unborn marten]

First set the oven to preheat to 400°F, cut the pumpkin in half take out all the pumpkin seeds

Then, pour some oil to cover the pumpkins

Then, take a large baking tray or something

Then, put wax paper on the tray

Then, put the pumpkins face down and place them in for 40 min

Then take it out

Now you can just feel off the skin and everything left is edible

[random mulch]

Mines better

[unborn marten]

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[random mulch]

you what. What the fuck is the point of a roguelike if you don't like the randomness. By using command, you are taking that game out of the game. The rogue out of the rougelike. You are making the game more boring and ruining it by being able to choose how you play. Do you understand the point of a roguelike? Its meant to be random, meant to be unpredicable. Why are you even playing a roguelike if you don't like the fact that things are random. What the fuck is the point. Half of the fun, the challenge, the thrill of the game is randomness. It's what makes it interesting. People like you disgust me.

[ripe dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875383147720769559/930650856435638343/furrychobyBoraYbutbetter.mp4

[fallen basin]

its affected. the difficulty increase is permanent and constant

[unborn marten]

Can't defend command, this is where it ends

[random mulch]

Lmaoo

[young urchin]

Difficulty scaled by time, the longer you spend on a run the more difficult the enemies

So if you spend 10 minutes on stage 1 the enemies will scale permanently for the rest of the stages

It's constant throughout the whole thing

[low hemlock]

Oh no

[dire arrow]

the difficulty has a pretty set jump each stage but spending more time on earlier stages isnt very risky as long as you are spending that time getting items

[fallen basin]

also actual advice here since i think its important to say this: @winged ferry don't worry about like optimal characters or shit, literally every character is at least PLAYABLE

[young urchin]

The idea is that you spend enough time to get the items on the stage without spending too much time so the enemies don't scale too much

[unborn marten]

The difficulty bar is just there. It is unaffected by anything other than the dimensions

[fallen basin]

so dont feel obligated to use the meta

[minor tusk]

https://imgur.com/bD67lOW

[dire arrow]

the first stage can be easily outscaled even without items

[unborn marten]

If people enforced the meta anything other than mul t and lodr would get immediately cancelled

[minor tusk]

you can do the first stage of monsoon item-less with rex

[full sparrow]

gd1

[minor tusk]

i would know ive done it several times

[young urchin]

I would recommend on normal probably like 7 minutes or so on each stage, that way you have plenty of time to loot the whole stage so you're prepared for the next without overstaying your welcome and making the enemies tough as fuck @winged ferry

[fallen basin]

same goes for skills, if you like something better who gives a shit if its worse

[dire arrow]

you definitely can
its better to level up before hitting the teleporter first tho

[fallen basin]

i like commando's roll over his slide and that is like, OBJECTIVELY worse ine very way

[minor tusk]

yes

[dire arrow]

ive found its a mix

[young urchin]

Generally you can do fine on a run even if you get completely shafted

[minor tusk]

although luck is important skill outshines it

[young urchin]

But eventually if you don't get anything you're going to get screwed

[random mulch]

Does it tho

[unborn marten]

Commando roll can reach the top of titanic plains

[fallen basin]

if you can avoid the enemies without not keeping the damage output, you dont really need luck

[dire arrow]

you can get absolutely shafted by bad rng but you can still make it through 4-5 stages with the worst possible rng if you're good enough

[unborn marten]

Depends on the character

[verbal verge]

god i love dmc5

[fallen basin]

they should add dante from the devil may cry series to ror2

[young urchin]

They did

[minor tusk]

they should add v1 from ultrakill

[fallen basin]

when

[young urchin]

That's been a mod for a long time

Same with Goku

[minor tusk]

could you imagine v1 traveling at the speed of light bullet jumping from stage to stage

[fallen basin]

mods dont count i mean like actual character you can just have

[unborn marten]

Other than mando, cap, engi, and huntress

[young urchin]

THEY DID

[fallen basin]

vanilla content

[young urchin]

I think it's just a skin but they literally did lol

[dire arrow]

you should see me play commando

[young urchin]

The modding community for this game is great

[fallen basin]

Cap can it just fucking sucks

[wheat shuttle]

the perfect description for lesser wisps
"who would of thought mosquitos would have hit scan"

[violet sorrel]

They should just stop adding content because content already exists as mods

[minor tusk]

bandit skin 😳

[unborn marten]

I'm not sure how to read this sentence

[fallen basin]

Now I wanna download the Dante mod though that sounds fucking sick

[young urchin]

No I don't want to deal with incompatibilities every 3 minutes

[vernal junco]

“Captain just fucking sucks”

[unborn marten]

You should try console

[verbal verge]

they should add exclusively gup related additions for the next 5.7 years

[fallen basin]

Captain can handle himself even with bad RNG, it just is really painful to play.

[verbal verge]

🧐

[fallen basin]

End of the day, shotgun does big hurty

[young urchin]

Cap is completely fine without a ton of items

[dire arrow]

and engineer has extra base damage so if you're smart about your turret/mine placements he has one of the easiest times getting to obliteration even with bad rng

[young urchin]

His shotgun is probably the best primary in the entire game lol

[fallen basin]

plus he has airstrikes

[vernal flicker]

🍿

[violet sorrel]

I rly dont like playing cap for some reason

[minor tusk]

yeah i just wish the devs would let him get an m2

[fallen basin]

the trick is to not charge the shotgun. captain is the best melee character.

[minor tusk]

he only has 3 moves

[violet sorrel]

I know the trick

[young urchin]

Fair enough, I think he's fun as hell but he's weird

[minor tusk]

for some reason if you charge the shotgun it does less damage

[young urchin]

M2 be like what if I was dogshit

[verbal verge]

I feel like Acrid can do pretty okay without good rng

[fallen basin]

2 if you run diablo strike

[minor tusk]

which makes no sense

[minor tusk]

diabolo strike with afterburner 😳

[fallen basin]

Wait what? I knew it did less DPS because its more damage to just run up at meatshot at point blank but WTF

less DAMAGE outright?

[young urchin]

I don't even think that's necessarily true but it's definitely a lower RoF

[dire arrow]

i dont like playing cap bc half of his skills are obsolete by stage 3 and his microbots make projectiles a non issue if you invest in a drone army

[unborn marten]

Cap without crit gets completely wrecked in mm6 without crit, shatterspleen, or a couple of bands. Though to be fair you guys don't have overloading lunars.

[violet sorrel]

He just feels like m1 spam machine with 3 gimmicks and mobility

[fallen basin]

You can play as Captain in Megaman 6?

Shit I shouldn't have stopped at 3

[violet sorrel]

And no dont say diablo strike is mobility that joke has gotten old

[unborn marten]

Uh, with mods probably I guess?

[minor tusk]

i'm pretty sure, whenever i charge the shotgun it just... does less damage... atleast i think it does...

[dire arrow]

yeah diablo strike keeps captain interesting imo

[minor tusk]

less damage as in less damage in numbers

[young urchin]

Diablo Strike was funny for like a day and then I said "Ok can I just get a regular alternate skill now"

[fallen basin]

I mean it has less dps because youre firing it less often

[minor tusk]

the funny boss ignore button

[fallen basin]

diablo is funny enough for me to not care that its basically useless

though i do wish captain had actual alt skills other than beacons

please, give me an actual m2

[verbal verge]

Beacons should have a pretty great area considering their alright effects

[minor tusk]

never

[young urchin]

Beacons are generally well balanced I think

[violet sorrel]

Captain skills are either
M1 cancel every 7 seconds
OR
Summon god strike once per stage after 999 second buildup

[unborn marten]

Beacon is essentially always relevant, the problem is the stock part of it. Orbital strike is always good. Tazer is good when you wanna freeze a big golem or something, but it could use a...a slight rebuild

[minor tusk]

except the stun one that one feels a bit useless

[young urchin]

Yeah no that one is dog

[violet sorrel]

I love stun one

[young urchin]

The hacking beacons are easily the best one because it just makes Captain scale crazy good

[fallen basin]

I have a crippling addiction to hack but the other ones are good

[dire arrow]

this will never get old

[minor tusk]

free legendary chest

[violet sorrel]

It lets you surpass bad rng by perma freezing a lot of the big tanky dangerous enemies (specifically elite elder lemurians)

[dense kindle]

free items in jeneral

[fallen basin]

i see a chance shrine and monkey brain says "oo oo 2 free item :)"

[violet sorrel]

And synergizes really well with diablo

[young urchin]

Multiple free shrines of chance for the whole run 😈

[minor tusk]

"man oh man i sure am enjoying my life, i sure hope i can get back to scorched acres to tend to the gard-"

[unborn marten]

I fully believe if cap had a slide all cap haters would magically disappear. After all, mando is m1 unless you decide to use the grenade after stage one.

[full sparrow]

neuron activation

[minor tusk]

mmmm monkey

[young urchin]

Have fun gamer

[dire arrow]

man i remember when the community could not hate lesser wisps enough

[violet sorrel]

Idk commando is arguably less popular than cap already

[unborn marten]

https://c.tenor.com/yUqKY2BlKvcAAAAM/wheeze-laugh.gif

[fallen basin]

theres 4 billion commando mains buddy

[minor tusk]

sounds like unstable tesla coil would be a god send

[young urchin]

Commando is singlehandedly the least favorite according to the Discord poll isn't he?

[violet sorrel]

And his dps rotation is a lot more fun I would say

[minor tusk]

it is rumored they all eat glue

[fallen basin]

you dont?

[young urchin]

Yeah Commando is statistically the least liked character lol

[dire arrow]

tesla used to be more well liked

...and then they let scavengers have them

...and then they let mithrix have them

[minor tusk]

no i eat glue substitute

[fallen basin]

@ me when you see more than 4 people who play rex

[violet sorrel]

Rather than 1-2 actual damaging skills and the rest are surprise tools that help you later

[hollow violet]

that poll was opened like right after bandit came out so the results are massively skewed

[fallen basin]

just cuz people like rex doesnt mean they play him

[minor tusk]

i am the rare situation where i like and play him

[young urchin]

I don't even believe anyone who says they like Commando

I fucking hate Commando I don't comprehend how he's fun or good at all

[violet sorrel]

I'm fine with commando

[dire arrow]

i do but hes pretty bad

[unborn marten]

Clearly, you're not a gd1 user

[minor tusk]

i like commando but like

why use him

[violet sorrel]

He's like a perfect medium in fun factor

Imo

[fallen basin]

shoot gun fun

[dire arrow]

the biggest problem with commando is mul-t

[young urchin]

I would rather play any other character on the roster than Commando

[minor tusk]

new players think he's fairly fun

then they unlock bandit

[unborn marten]

Capn?

[young urchin]

I like Captain

[violet sorrel]

Tho that doesnt mean I'll play him over mult or like 8 other characters

[minor tusk]

neuron activation

me pull trigger
gun go boom

[young urchin]

He's one of my top 3

[unborn marten]

Yooooo

[fallen basin]

precisely

[young urchin]

My top 3 are like Acrid/Bandit/Cap

[fallen basin]

commando is for when i want to go 300% brainless

[violet sorrel]

Because I think the vast majority of the cast is really fun

[fallen basin]

and just. hold down mouse 1

[minor tusk]

why do you all like acrid

i mean i like him too

[fallen basin]

i dont acrid is my least favorite

[minor tusk]

but i just wanna know why

[young urchin]

Funny jump and stun

[minor tusk]

man

[unborn marten]

@young urchin if you like cap now you should try them with gyro

[violet sorrel]

He's a strong character with fun mobility and a lot of customization and creativity in his loadouts

[fallen basin]

i mean i like him from a "haha funny space dog" perspective

[young urchin]

His leaps are really enjoyable and I like seeing the sky rain procs when I throw out Epidemic

[fallen basin]

but like playing acrid makes me wanna eat drywall

[young urchin]

Acrid also literally cannot fall off

[unborn marten]

Acrid could have zero items but still beat mithrix

[fallen basin]

admittedly he's probably more fun now htat i have blight but

[dire arrow]

im gonna be honest
i think the mul-t buffs that were applied in the 1.0 update were completely unwarrented and mul-t was always an amazing character that was just a little clunky to use and now hes no longer clunky but also just objectively stronger in the most obnoxiously braindead ways

[minor tusk]

when the gasoline hits

[violet sorrel]

He was

[fallen basin]

what was the buff again

[minor tusk]

double rebar neuron activation

[young urchin]

Hey guys it's me Molten Perforator what if you pressed R and the entire sky rained fire?

Asking for a friend teehee

[unborn marten]

Can't buff huntress but we can give the funny A tier mounted guns

[violet sorrel]

Saw is arguably the best m1 for retool and it was (and still is) the same as before the patch

[dire arrow]

there were several buffs for mul-t

[minor tusk]

hey guys it's me the charged perforator what would happen if you attacked anyone? 😳

[minor tusk]

i barely here anyone talk about the saw

[violet sorrel]

I liked the rebar buff but the nailgun buff was unwarranted imo

[fallen basin]

i only remembered the shotgun nerf

[violet sorrel]

Yeah because power mode exists now

[minor tusk]

i always just here "double nailgun power mode" and "double rebar retool"

[young urchin]

The saw is literally just the #1 way to get killed on any stage past like 3 on normal or higher

[fallen basin]

And?

[young urchin]

Mul-T is NOT built for melee

[violet sorrel]

Who needs saw when double nailgun is more than enough dps and a lot safer

[fallen basin]

Shift

[young urchin]

His shift cooldown is like 8 fucking seconds isn't it lol

[lapis wagon]

So I'm 45 stages and 265 minutes in. It's kind of interesting to see how the game breaks this late in. Only malachite / celestine scavengers spawn, stages don't spawn with enemies anymore, and I can't activate shrines of combat

[minor tusk]

yes but

rebar

[fallen basin]

so?

[long ravine]

Guys help

[fallen basin]

slam into enemy
shoot rebar

[dire arrow]

first and foremost was receiving a buff to nailgun so that it deals 70% (from 60%) per shot with a 0.6 coef (from 0.4)

[long ravine]

Fumos are too strong

[minor tusk]

big brain

[young urchin]

What the FUCK is a fumo

[fallen basin]

im literally doing that right now

[minor tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/fumo-gif-20701394

[long ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Ydb0ohETc

[fallen basin]

im playing fucking rebar power mode

[violet sorrel]

Tho before power mode I would've said saw rebar was the best combo

[willow mango]

cyka blyat

[young urchin]

Oh those god damn thingds

I hate fumos, and I hate you

[fallen basin]

OPTIMAL.

[long ravine]

Too bad

[minor tusk]

welcome to hell

[unborn marten]

What happened to witty?

[minor tusk]

mul-t gaming

[unborn marten]

They were the #1 puro poster

[willow mango]

i have no fucking idea what a fumo is and i don't want to know

[fallen basin]

the debates are over, power mode double rebar is new meta

[minor tusk]

i think a fumo is just a touhou plush

[young urchin]

They're shitty plushies for Redditors

[violet sorrel]

Now he has like 4 power mode loadouts that are just way better than anything retool can do because of raw dps

[minor tusk]

exactly

[umbral temple]

get a second powermode mult, but with double nailgun
make them stack attack speed
stand on them
OPTIMIZED

[dire arrow]

is it possible to get a double powered band proc by firing 2 rebars at once?

[minor tusk]

what do you all think of mul-t's scrap launcher

[fallen basin]

yeah but i cant carry 2 eccentric vases with powermode can i

[minor tusk]

is it even worth using at this point

[young urchin]

Nope not since they changed them

It would only proc once and then do a cooldown

[unborn marten]

It feels like an m2

[fallen basin]

I miss old bands

[minor tusk]

man

[young urchin]

Old bands were funny but they're more balanced now for sure

[violet sorrel]

Rebar gives m2 nailgun 0 spread iirc

[umbral temple]

i like double scrap launchers
but that's just my opinion

[dire arrow]

every commando main shares this sentiment

[young urchin]

You know what I miss?

Fresh Meat

[long ravine]

Scrap launcher is good

[ornate wigeon]

i miss fresh meat

[willow mango]

Just go fucking tf2 heavy sicko mode with nailgun

[fallen basin]

yeah this is more balanced but old bands were funny

[young urchin]

Rest in piece to my homie Fresh Meat

[ornate wigeon]

you beat me to it

[young urchin]

Fuck this Bison Steak nonsense

[fallen basin]

but i could use 2 rebar launchers instead

[violet sorrel]

Fresh mest fucking sucked but it could've been good if they just made the buff stackable

[ornate wigeon]

its a joke ofc bison steak is swag

[dire arrow]

default mul-t is fucking broken as balls

[minor tusk]

acrid has the best fresh meat physical thing

[willow mango]

MAGGOTS

[minor tusk]

he carries it IN HIS MOUTH

[young urchin]

Exactly

[minor tusk]

IN HIS M O U T H

[young urchin]

Dog got the shmeat, what's not to like

[dire arrow]

nailgun covers all the weaknesses of rebar and vice versa

[fallen basin]

anyways im gonna do double scrap launcher after this

[ornate wigeon]

using two nailguns makes bleed and leeching seed so busted

[minor tusk]

although i do like scrap launchers too they're fun

[fallen basin]

but this is funny

[minor tusk]

leeching deez nuts

[willow mango]

Fuck u scrap launcher and nailgun slap

[ornate wigeon]

what about...one nailgun and one rebar?

[minor tusk]

no >:C

[young urchin]

What I don't understand at all is why they renamed Fresh Meat

[dire arrow]

exactly what i use

[violet sorrel]

The only time I've actually used scrap and liked it was when CUM week one made it stupidly op (until late game)

[young urchin]

Like the rework? 100% Fresh Meat fucking sucked

[fallen basin]

I like how power mode was very clearly designed for 2 nailguns because it looks the EXACT same regardless of the weapon

[willow mango]

Peoples use rebar cause they too much of a pussy to run into combat

[young urchin]

But why did they change the name to something genuinely worse

[dire arrow]

rebar with power mode is kind of bad tho

[minor tusk]

good point but atleast im a pussy that's alive

[fallen basin]

like you still have 2 spinning barrels even if you have fucking rebar

[ornate wigeon]

cry about it

[minor tusk]

and also can deal massive amounts of ooga booga damage

[young urchin]

I am, I'm a strong man, but I cry too.

[willow mango]

fuck he's got a point

[violet sorrel]

Doing the retool tech with rebar does about the same dps as double rebar power mode

[minor tusk]

no i've got a quart

[young urchin]

Dead pussies just result in a felony

[dire arrow]

bison steak is a mans meat

[fallen basin]

No

[willow mango]

I edited it

[fallen basin]

No its probably better DPS by fucking far

[minor tusk]

[ornate wigeon]

why does acrid put mans meat in his mouth

[fallen basin]

Power mode double rebar is like HORRID till you get attack speed

[violet sorrel]

AND you can carry a second m1

[unborn marten]

Is Spelunky 2 good?

[minor tusk]

tastes yummy

[violet sorrel]

And an extra equipment

[winged ferry]

helö

[young urchin]

If you're looking for a cheap game get Ultrakill

God tier campaign FPS

[violet sorrel]

And at that point double nailgun, rebar nailgun, or saw nailgun all scale better

[minor tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/705623420200812585/893668084592812084/stylin.gif

[dire arrow]

nialgun burst into rebar snipe is very satisfying to use as a finisher

[young urchin]

JUDGEMENT

[unborn marten]

Nah

[minor tusk]

dropkicks

[young urchin]

He's BAD at VIDEOGAMES

[fallen basin]

Scaling isnt the issue for double rebar

Its the fact that you need to have already started scaling for it to not suck dick

[unborn marten]

I beat path of pain less than a week ago

[minor tusk]

sentence him to commando

WITH PHASE ROUND

[unborn marten]

Also, I play ror 2 on console and do mm6

[violet sorrel]

Ok double rebar power mode is only slightly more dps than single rebar retool

[young urchin]

I have all the speedrun achievements and 100% Steelsoul 💀

[dire arrow]

rebar scales fine
it pierces and we all know how piercing allows you to kite enemies until theyre all lined up for that big line of destruction

[violet sorrel]

1 shot every .9 seconds (double rebar power mode) vs 1 shot every ~1 second (single rebar retool)

[unborn marten]

Was 8 mask zote hard?

[dire arrow]

its also pretty good at getting that 1 guy who is in the crowd at 3hp to proc on kills

[robust barn]

subarashii

cow tools

[fallen basin]

like power mode 2 rebar is fine lategame but it starts horribly thats the big issue

[young urchin]

Didn't need to fight Zote you can interchange percentages with the DLC

Fuck I don't even know if Zote counts as a percentage

[dire arrow]

rebar procs hard

[young urchin]

Also, fun fact, any dream boss doesn't count as a death

[violet sorrel]

Rebar does 333% dps

[young urchin]

Because you just wake up outside of their entry point

[unborn marten]

Fight zote. The last zote is essentially a no hit boss

[violet sorrel]

Nailgun does 840% lol

[dire arrow]

it does 600% per shot procs and insta procs bands

[fallen basin]

like you 2 shot fucking beetles early on

[young urchin]

I did on my regular file ages ago

[unborn marten]

It'd be pretty hard to get to wp ignoring every dream warrior.

[young urchin]

I don't remember anything about the fight except what it is and what it does lol

[violet sorrel]

You can't just disregard attack speed tho

[dire arrow]

definitely not but with retool rebar has less

[violet sorrel]

Even with retool it only goes up to like 600%

[unborn marten]

What charms did you use for his last fight?

[violet sorrel]

Double rebar doubles that but at thst point you dedicate your whole build to rebar

[dire arrow]

actually rebar has a potentially way higher dps depending on the number of enemies you can reliably kite at once

[violet sorrel]

Keyword potentially

[dire arrow]

yeah just get good at kiting

[fallen basin]

its not really realistic to get 3 million pierces at once

[young urchin]

I honestly don't remember the slightest bit because it's been 2+ years but I probably ran something like Mark of Pride + Quick Focus + Unbreakable Strength + Soul Catcher

That's what I ran for basically anything late game

[fallen basin]

but it is good at killing multiple bosses because multiple bosses usually cluster up and they're fucking massive

[young urchin]

Didn't really fuck with spellcasting except for Radiance

[violet sorrel]

It's the beetle queen killer that's for sure

[dire arrow]

4 pierces is enough to beat out saws dps

[nimble storm]

may i introduce this thing called primordial cube?

[fallen basin]

NO

[violet sorrel]

Saw can do aoe too tho

[unborn marten]

True

Gd1, should I carry on with

[dire arrow]

literally just walk in a straight line and then turn around and look at the line of enemies as they follow you in pretty much perfect single file

[unborn marten]

Mostly for the beetles

[dire arrow]

on kill items shine

[nimble storm]

so wait what the argument? duel rebarb vs power mode saw?
well power mode saw wins on a dps and proc game
rebarb has a lot more potential with equipment and has decent aoe i would say.
also band procs

[dire arrow]

the more beetles
the more fuel for my fire

[fallen basin]

the argument is that power mode rebar is the best loadout

[nimble storm]

on mul-t you can make just about anything work. it's all pretty good really

[fallen basin]

time for the bester loadout

hey what is scrap launchres proc rate

[violet sorrel]

I think power mode rebar nailgun is arguably the best loadout

[dire arrow]

with rebar you get the best precision of any character and its not like youll lose anything to falloff or being out of range like nailgun or power saw either

[fallen basin]

fuck it purity time

[violet sorrel]

Tho the discussion stemmed from double rebar power mode compared to everything else

[dire arrow]

the only dps youll lose is by being bad at aiming it

[fallen basin]

HOLY SHIT THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT AWFUL

purity slaps

[dire arrow]

scrap launcher has a 1.0 coef iirc

nailgun is the only primary mul-t has that doesnt have a 1.0 coef

[fallen basin]

i think having purity is better for scrap

[dire arrow]

its also the only one with damage falloff (unless you count being out of range for power saw falloff then that also counts)

[fallen basin]

scrap's splash has falloff

[dire arrow]

thats different
thats just splash damage

[fallen basin]

no

[dire arrow]

aoe isnt the same as splash damage if you ask me

[fallen basin]

splash has falloff

the damage is worse the further it is from the origin point

wait

wow it doesnt even have falloff

or it barely does

[dire arrow]

i couldve sworn that was one of the buffs they gave mul-t in 1.0

buffing scrap launcher was warrented tho

it used to be pretty objectively awful

[fallen basin]

it seems like scrap launchers splash ahs like 2 ranges if i could guess

1 is relaly close adn does full damage, and 1 is past that and does reduced

[dire arrow]

its probably similar to a sweet spot aoe

[fallen basin]

but theres no falloff calc

[dire arrow]

the only thing in this game that i think has true splash damage is firework explosions

maybe sticky bombs do too but i havent checked too closely

[fallen basin]

remember when scrap launcher had a fucking ARC

[fallen basin]

dont nades?

[dire arrow]

no nades have a sweetspot aoe

[fallen basin]

i always forget elder lemurians have those

[dire arrow]

nades deal 700% within a certain distain from the center and then have an outer ring that does 1/4 of that

[fallen basin]

seems to be the same logic as scrap yeah. might even be the same math

[dire arrow]

willowisps are also done like this

[fallen basin]

yep, 25%

[dire arrow]

and fun fact:
willowisp sourspot does less damage than gasoline does with equal stacks

[fallen basin]

the fucking gasoline buff was so weird

why did they do that

"guys what if willowisp... but a white item?"

[dire arrow]

so that it works better with crowbars probably
and also so that it was a little more satisfying to use

[fallen basin]

its totally the latter

[iron badge]

does the gasoline radius scale with anything like with wisps do?

[fallen basin]

bc its probably TOO good in the current state

[fallen basin]

yeah stacking boosts radius, damage AND burn duration

[iron badge]

w o w

[dire arrow]

gasoline is a true aoe effect
everything within range takes 150% instant damage and is ignited for the full duration

[iron badge]

I figured it would have damage scaling, but short range

[fallen basin]

fucking gasoline

[iron badge]

and wisps would have range scale, but lower damage

[fallen basin]

that said wiki could be wrong about damage scaling

[iron badge]

but nope, gas just has both lmfao

[fallen basin]

esp since its inconsistently listed

[dire arrow]

gasoline's radius also scales almost twice as fast as willowisps

[proper iris]

providence x mithrix fanfcition

[fallen basin]

+4 m per stack vs +2.4

thanks

[dire arrow]

the primary thing holding willowisp as the better item is that it can proc on hits

[white kelp]

and that it does all of it's damage at once

stack 20 gasoline and 20 will o the wisps

[dire arrow]

having 4 willowisps with 4 atgs is godly

[white kelp]

the difference is super big

[fallen basin]

wdym

[dire arrow]

gasoline doesnt have a proc coef

[sinful plover]

Oh god oh fuck comrade shrek is back

[fallen basin]

arent both on kill

[dire arrow]

willowisp can activate other on hit items

[white kelp]

but wotw has a proc coefficient
gasoline doesn't

[fallen basin]

OH