gd1-nullified

[hollow violet]

your bloodline will end with you, gup hatred and all

[rotund igloo]

Wat do u think gup is made of

[hollow violet]

gup

[gleaming wyvern]

truer

[olive python]

Void Jailers are super hype, finally some more enemies you actually need to play around and cant just afk autopilot

[brazen hornet]

Imagine killing a jailer next to you while you get locked in place by another. Kiss your ass goodbye

[round gate]

this... this would make a great emote

[woeful gorge]

this tbh

[hollow violet]

sunglasses emojer

[jaunty plaza]

What

[lone beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/921118665728995338/59909106-edcb-4085-9ebe-c705e529bb1a.gif

[earnest prairie]

Spike Strip*

[olive python]

You know whats nice?

Enjoying things. You should try it

[pale delta]

[brazen hornet]

[gleaming wyvern]

hunteurnenjanenss is aneiunfian jfnadjfndpsifgdsondijo odgdpo dosaso nafn

[brazen hornet]

[olive python]

Gup is a good meme, theres a lot of ppl in this chat that dream about gup sitting on them at night

[brazen hornet]

Gup can sit on my face anytime

[olive python]

And their dreams will be realized Q1 2022

[naive lantern]

mm yes crowdfunder spam was a hilarious meme

[earnest prairie]

became marginally less funny after the 1000th time it got posted here ok

[solid siren]

unironically

[viscid adder]

i dream about a mighty gup as my royal steed

[gleaming wyvern]

dream is Iiterally 🤩

[round gate]

[abstract cloud]

OMG

AAAAAAAA REAL

[olive python]

Sometimes something can become so overused that is becomes pathetically funny. Thats the vibe rn

[white kelp]

lemdog gup and bungus are all bad sorry

[shut veldt]

[viscid adder]

i shall ride through the ruined plains of petrichor with gup as my steed

[full sparrow]

@abstract cloud

[lone beacon]

oh wow

[olive python]

[abstract cloud]

coffee art as server emoji im howling thank you. my dreams: realized. bliss. joy

[lone beacon]

[abstract cloud]

me! :)

[white kelp]

crowdfunder spam was unfunny but at least it was in contradiction to the senseless hate it got
gup lemdog and bungus are like
funny thing
post it

[lone beacon]

lmao

[gusty oar]

yoooo congrats

[dapper geode]

[unborn moat]

[jade gust]

[olive python]

@edgy acorn No matter what happens, keep magma worm emotes so magma worm enjoyers can steal the emoji real-estate

[frail moss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/905304622934130698/tenor_8.gif

[dapper geode]

it's thursday

[viscid adder]

i shall

[white kelp]

wrong

[flat kernel]

today is a great day, amazing dev thoughts and FNAF Security Breach releases in 6 hours

[unborn moat]

[frail moss]

cope

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/905304622934130698/tenor_8.gif

[viscid adder]

wungus thursday

[dapper geode]

https://tenor.com/view/super-fishy-mondays-youmu-touhou-hi-xinos-hi-casey-gif-21226202

[gleaming wyvern]

wungus kinda based tbh

[lone beacon]

I'm excited for the new character teased (I think they're a character) even if it turns out they're not a sniper of some sort

[shut veldt]

femg-

[earnest prairie]

you will die

[simple sun]

femgup

[round gate]

holy shirt time to watch matpat overreact to it

[viscid adder]

i just want han-d 😔

[dapper geode]

han-deez nuts

[round gate]

this can be done easily. Add anime blush to gup

[jade gust]

gupon deez

[misty oracle]

anyone translated the morse code on the store page for the dlc?

[lone beacon]

Han-D but with a gun (still doesn't shoot it, just beats eveyrone to death with it)

[misty oracle]

I think I got it, just wanted to confirm

[stable sorrel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/921080222919565442/IMG_7778.gif

[stable sorrel]

gup uwu

[dapper geode]

:gupuwu:

[round gate]

[simple sun]

Guwup

[dapper geode]

+

[solid siren]

based

[pale delta]

gup is good.
uwu is no good. die.

[flat kernel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/921080222919565442/IMG_7778.gif

[olive python]

What if the 2nd character is Void Hand

[pale delta]

ZA HANDO?

[jaunty plaza]

Floating gup

[olive python]

Do we know why the ground was shaking in Sniper's reveal?

[earnest prairie]

who?

[simple sun]

sniper got knocked off and fell into the void forever

[lone beacon]

I think it's similar reasons as to why the character select shakes

[simple sun]

We had gup for 3 hours cmon let people enjoy a thing

[flat kernel]

we dont know if it's sniper

[olive python]

What if the new character is Hand, thats why the ground shakes, and its now Hand with a Sniper?

[simple sun]

Lemdog is just ugly

[winged ferry]

can someone tell me to get the fuck off my phone and study more

[frank slate]

who's sniper

[round gate]

@native quarry still not online damn

[winged ferry]

need proper motivation

[olive python]

There is a crowbar on the ground mate

[abstract cloud]

they're gonna wake up to six thousand pings 😭

[simple sun]

playable crowbar

[solid siren]

i think if we ping him more he'll magically come online @native quarry

[atomic socket]

[earnest prairie]

ok listen post this gup when they least expect it gets bit stale when literally every single person expects it already

[flat kernel]

ok and? devs never said it's sniper. It's possible but it hasnt been confirmed

[lone beacon]

I think everyone would be very upset if that were the case
no one wins

[nova trail]

[round gate]

get off your phone or else gup is gonna come for you

[placid aurora]

[atomic socket]

@native quarry

[olive python]

My copium is its sniper because of the crowbar

[earnest prairie]

whoa holy shit crowbar! that means the next character is artificer because crowbar is really good on artificer

[abstract cloud]

artificer 2

[simple sun]

new character is ranged loader

[earnest prairie]

FUCK sniper

[lone beacon]

why are you mad?

[olive python]

I feel like the screen shake was really pronounced, and also, why is it a gif if the shake isnt important

[atomic socket]

Sniper mafia

[dapper geode]

lmfao

[neat ruin]

btw from that arg that bizzo posted

[earnest prairie]

we dont need an official sniper when we could have

new content whoa isnt that crazy

[olive python]

Sniper is the master of Crowbar, Artificer merely adopted the art form

[earnest prairie]

sniper is the master of cringe

[neat ruin]

the colors in the bottom that dont correspond to anything are aquamarine and grey
which are han-d and chef colors

[atomic socket]

I would not cry about getting more robots. An original, or a ror1 robot

[olive python]

Id prefer a new character as well, but theres a crowbar on the ground

[earnest prairie]

everyone expected that

[lone beacon]

no idea! personally I think it's just something similar to character select, maybe further hinting that it's a survivor and not something else? I'm hoping more people speculate this a bit more since I'd love to see other's ideas

[untold lake]

I hope they add that clone character weaver from the random character list, think it would be cool if they made it void themred too

[earnest prairie]

weaveeeeer

[neat ruin]

sniper is the master of running on the other side of the map to have 1 quadratic meter of breathing room

[pale delta]

Sniper is a monkey

[neat ruin]

weaver and chemiiiiiiist

[earnest prairie]

weaver please just give me weaver i will be at peace

[olive python]

Yeah that was my vote

[earnest prairie]

or chemist yes
or anything new really

[untold lake]

So true so true

[neat ruin]

miner disbeliever

[untold lake]

Chemist too yes

[olive python]

HAN-D > CHEF > Sniper is acceptable > I dont want the rest

[lone beacon]

the other things I've thought of are either some sort of missile launcher (high damage primary that'd benefit from crowbar) or the crowbar is a red herring and the thing in the chest is something else other than a railgun or rocket launcher

[round gate]

Sniper when he needs to stay in the teleport range:

[simple sun]

Sniper when an entire gamemode is a teleporter event

[earnest prairie]

id say
chef > hand > miner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcer and sniper in the pits of fucking turbo giga hell

[olive python]

Sniper when hes in RoR2:

[lone beacon]

the real new survivor is gup with a gun

[earnest prairie]

nemesis bandit

[lone beacon]

gunp, if you will

[pale delta]

Femsniper

[olive python]

Imo, hot take, Hopoo hasnt shown mastery over making melee characters yet. Id love to see them make a master-class melee like Bandit

Merc is closest

[lone beacon]

vehicle character 👀

[earnest prairie]

mult (shopping cart is a vehicle)

[lone beacon]

saw mul-t

[olive python]

I also dont believe a melee character will come this expansion

[pale delta]

Mul-t is the only robo-fuck that sucks at using strides of heresy

[viscid adder]

😔

[shut veldt]

still dont get the sniper hate, it wont just be a copy of the mod, they are rework him like bandit, maybe a railgun, or a completely diffrent special. :)

[jaunty plaza]

Hot take new character is powersaw mul-t

[simple sun]

Snowy Forest new stage 1, double the size of abyssal dephths

[viscid adder]

eh idc who
as long as they're fun to play

[olive python]

I think its more that Sniper was a niche character because of her base mechanics. Not many ppl played her, only her mains did really to my knowledge.

[earnest prairie]

i just dont want a returning character in general

because new >>> reworked original

[pseudo gate]

who are the new characters

[simple sun]

just don't add characters problem solved

[viscid adder]

i'd like one new, and one returning tbh

[olive python]

And personally, I believe Hopoo has gotten much better at character design since RoR1 days, Id like to see more on what they could do

[shut veldt]

it's hinted to be sniper i think

[earnest prairie]

goblingon

[olive python]

Gup and Sniper

[simple sun]

it is not hinted

[lone beacon]

a lot of people like to say there is already a character like that, but I'm not sure that's a great argument considering a couple of things

[pseudo gate]

wrong all of you it is just gup

[ripe dragon]

GUP and GUP

[torpid ivy]

wait "her"????

[pseudo gate]

UYEAh

[neat ruin]

how

[olive python]

Im in the habit of saying her but its a they

[pseudo gate]

"its" lmao

[earnest prairie]

good character design: rex and artificer

[winged ferry]

Thankx

[pseudo gate]

Rex is peak

[viscid adder]

running the bite attack i forgot the name of on acrid makes him 10 times more fun

[neat ruin]

sniper mechanic tech be like
ok imma reload while in jump rq

[simple sun]

me when double rebar turns into a rythmn game

[earnest prairie]

sniper mechanics be like
lemme swap to a good character rq

[neat ruin]

best thing about sniper is a deep purple suit they have

[simple sun]

Kinda don't like how Captain to Heretic gives Heretic such a massive advantage of every other character

[neat ruin]

pretty cool outfit

[earnest prairie]

best thing about sniper is uhhhh
nemesis

[dapper geode]

how so?

[simple sun]

Microbots

[earnest prairie]

microbots

[dapper geode]

aaah

[neat ruin]

railgun sniper > virgin that has to reload

[earnest prairie]

facts

[short bridge]

Gup

[neat ruin]

railgun guy could be interesting but liek
mul-t is still here

[lone beacon]

ror2 bandit be like

[olive python]

It depends on the metric. In terms of QUALITY and STYLE bandit outperforms every other character in the game. Im a commando main, and I can say that when I shoot I dont feel much other than my damage. With bandit you FEEL your shot. It showed higher mastery over their creative tools to me.

I dont think Loader feels best. She is gimmicky, and many items dont synergize with her. Similar boat with Acrid to me.

And yeah 100%. Moffein Bandit isnt even close to Hopoo Bandit

[earnest prairie]

what items dont synergize with loader lol

[pseudo gate]

everything

[earnest prairie]

huh

[viscid adder]

i still find every ror2 survivor fun cause FUCK YUO!!!!!

[short bridge]

Loader just feels clunky tbh, doesn’t help that you cant airstrafe during hook

[viscid adder]

for me loader's super fun

just swinging around like goddamn spiderman

[olive python]

I find all of the characters fun but Acrid, If Hopoo offered to remove a character and replace them with a new one I'd say no to every character that aint Acrid.

I think he deserves a rework or something

[earnest prairie]

id say
loader is satisfying in the sense that hard hitting abilities => dopamine rush to brain
but loader is kinda one-dimensional in everything that doesnt involve grapple mastery
and grapple mastery is not at all necessary to win as loader
so she just gets stale extraordinarily quickly

[viscid adder]

i find acrid very fun, but i can see your point

[olive python]

Mhm I agree here. Gimmicky is definitely the word Id use to describe her

[gentle path]

love how the top comment on the dev thoughts video is CHEF related

[viscid adder]

eh, i guess people have their own opinions on gimmicky survivors

[gentle path]

what a good community

[earnest prairie]

i dont think acrid needs a rework just because i enjoy playing melee acrid a lot so

[short bridge]

I’ve played countless hours of titanfall and apex, so I’d like to think I know my way around a grappling hook. But loaders grapple just isn’t that great

[neat ruin]

truer

[lone beacon]

for the most part I enjoy most of the characters, the only two I don't particularly like to play are huntress and merc. I think huntress could use some buffs but that wouldn't really make me play her and I don't think either one of them needs to be changed, its okay if I don't enjoy every survivor, the game doesn't have to be catered only to me

[lime scarab]

tbh it doesnt feel like her grapple has much depth

[olive python]

Bandit fits a niche that other characters dont fill. The combo-chain style is one of my favorites, and it is really popular in our group. If Bandit was nerfed I feel that core gameplay stays the same, its just more difficult to play. And with that, Im okay, I may even prefer it.

Loader on the other hand, I feel only exists BECAUSE she is OP. If you nerf her to average levels, she no longer exists as a niche other than "grapple fist" girl

[lime scarab]

there is a bit to learn

[neat ruin]

do to spit, frenzied and poison whatever you want tbh

[lime scarab]

but not much

[short bridge]

I literally only enjoy playing bandit and huntress

[neat ruin]

combo-chain style is literally merc???

[earnest prairie]

as in
her damage rotation has even LESS depth
like actual puddle of water depth levels
while there are at least some mechanics to grapple

[olive python]

Again, I wouldnt remove Loader, she is fun in her own right. But I dont think she shows mastery over melee character creation.

[lime scarab]

ah ok then

[neat ruin]

i would remove loader

[lime scarab]

if thats the case her grapple is mariana trench deep

[earnest prairie]

yea exactly
i wish pylon was actually like
on par with slam
and there would be something extra to grappling pylon

[olive python]

Im speaking more on, unload burst, chain, burst, chain, etc

[lime scarab]

relative to that

[olive python]

Merc doesnt fill that nice one bit lol

[neat ruin]

https://thunderstore.io/package/duckduckgreyduck/LoaderIsNoMore/

[short bridge]

Lots of games have grapples with more and better mechanics

[olive python]

Other games arent RoR2

[lime scarab]

*compared to her damage rotation

[shut veldt]

this dev thoughts changed everyone imo

[neat ruin]

ah
"cope's out"

[lime scarab]

lol

[neat ruin]

worst skill in the game tbh

[earnest prairie]

merc is the nicest feeling character for me tbh

1. melee (actual melee not bullet train loader)
2. combo character
3. animation cancelling
   boom whadup

[neat ruin]

zero reward

[earnest prairie]

LISTEN

[bright island]

Commando shoot gun. I enjoy gun

[olive python]

My most playtime is on Merc, love merc as a character.

[silent wadi]

Gup

[shut veldt]

acrid spread poison. me like poison

[olive python]

But I want a new melee that feels really good to play

[short bridge]

I kinda want a melee character somewhat like zhin from paladins, like with a sword or something that shoots projectiles

[earnest prairie]

sameeeeee

[warped meadow]

please photoshop image to make gup happy

[lime scarab]

rex feels nice as fuck to play

[abstract cloud]

free nitro 😳

[lime scarab]

ive never given merc a shot

[olive python]

Yeah 100%

[dapper geode]

bruh

[atomic socket]

I just like killing myself as rex

[silent wadi]

Fguck you buff hunternenendnwnnds

[shut veldt]

OMG FREE NITRO

[earnest prairie]

of hey its my favourite website dlsord

[stable sorrel]

MONKE SMASH

[neat ruin]

lmao

[dapper geode]

me too i love clicking those links

very legit

[neat ruin]

ok listen you can get 6 purities and go apeshit

[olive python]

I think its just to make her gameplay loop more fluid imo

[short bridge]

It’s so loud

[cursive oracle]

sex

[bright island]

6 purities lets anyone go apeshit

[olive python]

You cant give her a good M1 or R because her other abilities are too strong

[cursive oracle]

hmm

[earnest prairie]

yea that would be really fun
or like if you grapple a pylon you get some sorta electrification buff that gives ur other abilities extra effects like lightning chains

[neat ruin]

nah i mean

[olive python]

And you cant "nerf" her other abilities, theyre OP by design

[cursive oracle]

I guess enough mints will make anyone angry

[naive lantern]

there's some depth to thunderslam at least

[atomic socket]

So like Huntress rework when

[neat ruin]

like you become a literal ape

[bright island]

oh true

[neat ruin]

slamming the ground repeatedly

tbh worth it

[signal verge]

Mul-t is fun, nothing special but it’s cool.

[earnest prairie]

you can tune down the numbers on her utility and then buff other abilities
to redistribute her power budget so that there is actual reason to press m1 button

[naive lantern]

you can chain thunderslam -> gauntlet to have it go off when hitting the floor or an enemy you don't kill in one hit

[olive python]

Pre nerf mult was the goat

[abstract seal]

Double rebar is the strat

[neat ruin]

before anniversary came out, i really hoped they would do conduits

[olive python]

If you "tune down" the numbers on her utility her gameplay loop is compromised

[signal verge]

Mult is still the goat.

[neat ruin]

pre which nerf lmao

[lime scarab]

maybe make the cooldown on her superman punch much longer and buff the other attacks?

[signal verge]

Isn’t double nailgun better?

[abstract seal]

You can spam M1 with swap R and it’s free dps

[earnest prairie]

her gameplay loop is boring i want it to be compromised

[olive python]

Proc coe

[atomic socket]

Mult always great wdym

[naive lantern]

which imo means charged > thunder for alt R since doing that's a lot easier when you're not forced to release gauntlet

[neat ruin]

mul-t is literally the best

[bright island]

Mrm... Saws Sauce...\

[signal verge]

I always thought power mode was better lol-

[silent wadi]

Yeah because you can fly

[abstract seal]

While one is recharging you can shoot the other

[atomic socket]

Double scrap 🤤

[olive python]

In League of Legends, Aatrox, a character that literally nobody played was reworked. When he was reworked there was outrage that they removed the old playstyle from thegame.

Same thing would happen but worse with loader, there are SO MANY loader players out there.

[abstract seal]

With enough attack speed power mode is better but I always go swap

[neat ruin]

LoL player

yeah i guess discussion here kinda yea

[signal verge]

Makes sense, although I am a power mode enjoyer.

[olive python]

You cant change Loader's gameplay loop, legit not possible. Which means you cant nerf utility, and thus M1 and R cant be good

[hidden saddle]

[olive python]

Which part is flawed

[abstract seal]

My main problem with it is the speed, as I like to move as much as possible

[signal verge]

Yeah, armor helps tank tho.

[abstract seal]

Yeah it does

[hidden saddle]

get 5000 goat hooves

[abstract seal]

Smart

[bright island]

you can most definitely change pylon. I barely even use it unless I have like brainstalks or see an annoying wisp

[signal verge]

Tbh once I get like one hoppo feather I have enough mobility to dodge attacks, so it works for me.

[abstract seal]

Then the mobility loss isn’t noticeable

[olive python]

No, thats not the point>

Hopoo CANT change the gameplay loop BECAUSE of the outrage of Loader players (not a small sum).

If they nerf Utility gameplay loop is hindered.

If they cant nerf Utility then M1 and R cant be buffed, as she will become even more OP

Yes but the AVERAGE LOADER ENJOYER plays loader for a specific reason; "swing punch oneshot! I'm immortal while dealing damage!"

[abstract seal]

I’ll go power mode and try that and see how I like it then. It’s been a while since I played it

[earnest prairie]

on the topic of league new aatrox has more interesting gameplay imo so seethe
then again loaders gameplay loop is just m2 an enemy for speedboost then utility to oneshot
thats it
its not like loaders damage rotation requires actual time to learn its not merc m1 extensions
you can definitely redistribute some of her utility power budget into other abilities
also arguably that would make loader's playstyle more enjoyable because in the case of her m1 being actually strong she could finally fit the slow but powerful bruiser description instead of being a ranged character where she herself is the projectile

[olive python]

I agree that I would want it to be changed, but I dont think Hopoo would want to shaft that section of the playerbase

[naive lantern]

commando player outrage didn't stop hopoo from breaking frag grenade physics

[earnest prairie]

listen i am coping at this point

[stable sorrel]

Loader plays when MONKEY SMASH MONKEY SMASH

[olive python]

I prefer new aatrox, but do you remember all the outrage?

I dont think the gameplay loop is good. But a LOT of people enjoy it.

[signal verge]

Yeah, maybe it’s just I enjoy power mode over retool, although I may try retool again just to see how it is.

[stable sorrel]

League's gameplay is fine the part of the game that's bad is the fact that you need 9 other human beings to play with.

[olive python]

Changing one loadout isnt the same as removing a whole unique playstyle from the game

[stable sorrel]

You mean Boris? They removed Aatrox

[olive python]

Only die hard ror2 fans played rebar

[abstract seal]

Yeah I think with an M1 other than rebar it isnt great, I just prefer it for the double rebar specifically

[olive python]

But theres a ton of people who just casually play RoR2 and enjoy Loader

That dont even touch this discord

[main spire]

The bad part of league is lying to yourself about liking league

[olive python]

Double rebar is a niche playstyle

[shut veldt]

double rebar was broken, but not too broken

[naive lantern]

how would nerfing loader utility remove that playstyle

[olive python]

I LIKE THE PLAYSTYLE

Its niche

[hidden saddle]

ror2 players hating the ever living fuck out of the game

[olive python]

Swing oneshot immortal playstyle is inherently broken LOL

Increase CDs? You cant grapple, feels shit.

Decrease damage? You deal no dmg so punching feels worse, which is all she has going for her

[autumn acorn]

nailgun is fine reeee

[signal verge]

Makes sense, double rebar is quite fun tbh, I’ll try it out again later.

[shut veldt]

fr this dev thoughts changed everyone

[stable sorrel]

Like I've said in the past: nobody hates a game more than the people who have invested 2000 hours into it.

[vernal junco]

Console getting major bugfix? Unbelievable

[olive python]

What noob is running double rebar when they dont go to this discord

[stable sorrel]

Minecraft, RoR2, Starcraft, League of Legends, WoW, and CS:GO players all pointing out how shitty the games they play are with 10k hours of playtime

[wraith estuary]

Fool, we always expect the Gup

[olive python]

% of ppl who do this vs % of ppl who just simply play loader is massively different. I liked double rebar, but its not an equal comparison

[signal verge]

Honestly I’m not sure what is mul-ts best loadout, but I heard double rebar is pretty good.

[olive python]

% of players who play double rebar is definitely sub 1%

[signal verge]

I play loader because loader gives me an unhealthy amount of dopamine sometimes.

[hidden saddle]

double cock and ball torture (the saw)

[olive python]

Yeppers its fun

[naive lantern]

all she has going for her
ignore that she has the same regen/HP as acrid while also having barrier gain, a reasonably strong M1, and a 2000%/8s nuke in thunderslam

[quartz hatch]

Probably not

[stable sorrel]

[wraith estuary]

Is there a waitlist for this? I am interested.

[earnest prairie]

re-learning a character is fun because it gives you extra reasons to play the game therefore you increase the longevity of the game in the eyes of the player

loader is not a difficult champion to play
therefore she isnt hard to learn
therefore she wouldnt be hard to relearn i imagine

if they completely removed artificer/rex/merc and replaced either of those with a different character that would be a problem
because they actually take effort and time and commitment to play
loader does not.

then again i don't really thing comparing buffing some abilities while nerfing other is THAT drastic of a playstyle change to bring it to aatrox rework levels

like yeah you don't wipe everything from the face of the planet with 1 punch now you have to punch them a couple more times
even that is more engaging than current loader damage rotation

[olive python]

These things enable her current gameplay loop, yes

[naive lantern]

she has other tools besides funny grapple punch and nerfing those would not make her unplayable

[olive python]

Its about making a large % of the playerbase enjoy their gameplay less bc its more clunky

[hidden saddle]

rex my beloved

[signal verge]

I feel like you should keep loader where she is tbh because this isn’t a multiplayer game, balance isn’t as important and it’s alright to have a broken but extremely fun char.

[signal verge]

I really should get into Rex lol.

[abstract seal]

It is a multiplayer game though

[olive python]

Yeah, I agree. But does average loader enjoyer agree?

Again, Aatrox was a shitty character noone played that garbage. They reworked him, everyone was in shambles and they lost players who played aatrox. Reworking aatrox doesnt give more players, removing him gives less.

If you rework Loader, right, the only benefit Hopoo gets is negative.

[earnest prairie]

i actually want to see a heavy-hitting slow character with big fists and big punches
loader is not that.
loader is a living missile with like the best mobility out of any character even without mastering it

[olive python]

Only loader players might quit. No one is starting to play RoR2 because of loader rework lol

[simple sun]

me when dev thoughts 24 shows unexplainable mercenary changes

[olive python]

Hopoo isnt bad genuinely amazing game wtf do you mean they cant balance lol

Minecraft isnt bad either youre on something

[naive lantern]

where to even begin with that last part

[earnest prairie]

league has
A LOT of issues lol
feature creep ranked system the COMMUNITY OH GOD THE COMMUNITY the blindness of the devs to some glaring issues
x d

[shut veldt]

i like the new merc m2 animation

[olive python]

Balance isnt perfect anywhere, games still amazing regardless

[shut veldt]

or it was just bugged idk

[simple sun]

if you want a balanced rougelike play enter the gungeon

[signal verge]

Yeah I don’t think balance is as important in Ror2

[olive python]

Isnt the point of a roguelike for it not to be balanced

SO you have more run variance

[simple sun]

You need to understand unbalance

sometimes it's better to just not give a shit about an idea and then see how it fucks up the whole game in a fun way

[olive python]

If im playing deadcells and i roll some garbage weapon and the next run I roll some god affixes, that keeps me playing

[earnest prairie]

i just dont think its comparable to league in general

its not like ror2 is a competitive game with a strict meta
huntress is the weakest character out of the roster but you can still play her and succeed with her consistently

if you dont like a character you can easily play a different one
those who play loader are not loader otps

[olive python]

This right here

[simple sun]

raincoat

[olive python]

If the game was balanced itd be much more boring

[simple sun]

If Raincoat is perma bands I do wonder if it's not like too strong

[signal verge]

Some of my favorite games I spend more time trying to break with broken combos than anything lol.

[simple sun]

buffing the already best green items while the mediocer green items stay at the bottom forever

[whole mulch]

AAAAAAAA GUPSPSSSS

[olive python]

If they rework loader two things will happen

Some loader players will quit as its their only character they play, and it feels worse

Some ppl who play other characters will begin to play loader

[hidden saddle]

holy shit i finally found what goobo is i thought it was a real item in the game

[olive python]

How does that help them

[earnest prairie]

and if we go by the metric of whether or not a decision attracts new players then why are there still balance changes? this doesnt bring new players in

BUT
it has the potential to detract existing players

??

[simple sun]

when was the last time they nerfed something

[earnest prairie]

but what if it doesnt feel worse

[signal verge]

Do people really care about loader being unbalanced that badly they would quit the game for it?

[earnest prairie]

like why would they nerf mult proc coe? that might discourage people who play exclusively mult quit!

[olive python]

Who is effected by you "fixing" loader?

Again, some ppl will quit and some who ALREADY PLAY will start playing loader

[earnest prairie]

yea exactly lol

[junior zephyr]

They nerfed Tri-Tip that one time.

[violet sorrel]

Goos morning gd1

[buoyant carbon]

Is that last image a new character teaser?

[olive python]

It will feel worse to a good portion of the people who play loader for the current gameplay fun-autopilot gameplay loop

[frank perch]

gup morning nether

[late plover]

Gup gang

[median summit]

carbonizer turrets vs gauss turrets on engi?

[signal verge]

Yep.

[gusty oar]

might be

[hollow trellis]

Lodr doesn't need a fix because she is fun to play

[sinful plover]

okay ror2 balance is quite questionable, however I have played many games with worse balance. while I do believe balance is important, I do also believe that sometimes it is okay to sacrifice balance for fun

[stable sorrel]

I think the CUM update was a massive balance improvement

[buoyant carbon]

Who thoust be???

[earnest prairie]

loader will become a healthier and more engaging character
for a developer that cares about their game THIS is the selling point and not solely the financial incentive

[olive python]

Ive determined that you simply hate enjoying things, and you somehow believe that hopoo is doing a bad job despite making this amazing game

[violet sorrel]

To me looks kinda like a rifle/heavy gun

[gusty oar]

hey nether :)

[prime lotus]

yo what
gup discussion?

[violet sorrel]

And if it's sniper then I'll have no choice to act up

[olive python]

If them not changing loader stops you from RECOMMENDING THIS AMAZING GAME to another person, then idk what to tell you LMAOOO

[prime lotus]

gup my beloved

[simple sun]

CUM nerfing rapid fire with small bleed nerf and buffing burst and melee characters is good

[buoyant carbon]

Is it sniper???

[sinful plover]

lodr is honestly quite braindead

[violet sorrel]

Don't know

[sinful plover]

she could benefit from a minor rework

[buoyant carbon]

Crying

[signal verge]

I’m still curious about what “Cum.” Is, not the liquid but the abbreviation.

[olive python]

Its not just incentive though?

Im a game dev myself. If i make a character that some people enjoy, and others dont, thats fine. Its PVE, if Loader is more powerful than the average thats fine, it doesnt effect non-loader players.

[sinful plover]

content update march

[junior zephyr]

Content Update March 2 baby lesssgoooo

[simple sun]

liquid

[signal verge]

Thanks.

[earnest prairie]

yet you are here arguing that CHANGING loader will stop some people from RECOMMENDING THIS AMAZING GAME to another person
this
entire
time.

[sinful plover]

balance is still absolutely relevant in pve games

[violet sorrel]

As unbalanced as loader is, she's also the fan favorite by a long shot if I had to guess

[olive python]

If you nerf loader people will quit. I wont, but people will lmao

[violet sorrel]

Reworking her could upset a lot of people

[sinful plover]

that's their skissue tbh

[junior zephyr]

Buff Commando more so he becomes the new Loader.

[simple sun]

refer to definitely real poll

[olive python]

Its not should, I think it just cant happen? I think its a flawed design balance-wise and was obviously made just to have fun

[violet sorrel]

Tho it could also makr a lot of people happier

[stable sorrel]

bias because bandit was new

[hollow trellis]

Mando huntress and art need the fix, because their weakness sometimes, not always, can reduce the fun

[violet sorrel]

The top character is literally always the newest one

[simple sun]

yeah for sure

[simple sun]

but Loader being so high while MULT being at the bottom shows

[stable sorrel]

I think the only characters that need real balance changes are Commando, Huntress, and Arti

[olive python]

Depends on the balance, but I think Loader being a little better than captain doesnt ruin the game.

[signal verge]

Don’t insult my robot boi 😤

[swift sable]

I like MUL-T, click R and go brrrrrrrrrrrrr

[ancient garnet]

Omg what is this

[signal verge]

Mul-t is amazing.

[quartz hatch]

Captn is literally insane what are you talking about

[simple sun]

hey I don't mind braindead dumb fun every now and again

[earnest prairie]

its not about loader being strong or not
all characters are at least decent
its about loader being extremely fucking boring

[signal verge]

Agreed.

[quartz hatch]

Captn has crazy dps without any items

[gusty oar]

gup

[grim cave]

Gup

[olive python]

I dont see why ppl think changing loader is the solution, a lot of people, including myself enjoy the gameplay loop she has

[late plover]

Huntress and commando feels fine

[stable sorrel]

while Loader and MUL-T are probably too strong in comparison to the other survivors I'd rather the other characters be brought up closer to their level than for them to be brought down to the level of the other characters

[grim cave]

It’s gup :D

[junior zephyr]

I like playing Commando because he feels smooth to play.

[olive python]

Then what is that poll LOL

[earnest prairie]

and a lot don't

[ancient garnet]

[sinful plover]

my personal problem with lodr is that she takes too little effort to be strong

[violet sorrel]

Also do you think we could get some form of void ap rounds

[olive python]

Then the CHARACTER ISNT FOR YOU LMAOOOO

[quartz hatch]

What’s captn’s dps with no items?

[violet sorrel]

Void jailers have purple hp bar

[quartz hatch]

14400%?

[hollow trellis]

Also most unbalanced things is skill variations, and this is a real problem because its straight reduce of run variety

[olive python]

Its not a character with 0.00001% playrate, its a POPULAR CHARACTER LMAO

[simple sun]

ass piercing rounds

[signal verge]

I agree mul-t is fun but def is one of the chars on the lower skill threshold.

[earnest prairie]

ok dude captain is 3rd place with the literal worst character design in the game the poll doesnt tell shit

[signal verge]

Unless you use power mode which takes some skill.

[simple sun]

why do people hate captain so much

[grim cave]

“Skill issue”

[stable sorrel]

I also don't think one item like focus crystal being too strong is a big deal unless you're playing with Command

[violet sorrel]

ALSO I just wanna say my prediction of void warden is getting closer and closer :)

[olive python]

Thats your opinion man. If a character is popular, let it live. Its not hurting Mercenary that Loader exists

[sinful plover]

I don't even think lodr is the strongest character (that would be mult), however she is too easy for how strong she is

[signal verge]

I have no idea.

[ancient garnet]

Yeah 8 x 120%

[grim cave]

They don’t??????

[late plover]

The only thing I’d want to see different on commando is make his alt m2 the default and give him a new secondary m2. His default m2 just doesn’t feel right for this game.

[sinful plover]

basically, she's a crutch character

[stable sorrel]

You can say Focus Crystal is too strong but you aren't guaranteed a bunch of them in a run

[quartz hatch]

Sick

[simple sun]

basically if you aren't playing eclipse 8 rex you are bad at the game

[late plover]

But he also doesn’t really need it … I just think it would be nice : P

[signal verge]

Proc coe for mul-t is like comically high.

[olive python]

All green side huge

[pseudo gate]

I think people are just bad at the game

[grim cave]

All characters are fun imo but it’s just down to personal preference

[sinful plover]

yes

[violet sorrel]

Skills that don't synergize with his "best" skill

[stable sorrel]

Finding a focus crystal printer becomes an interesting event that changes the way you play that run and in that sense I think it's a good thing that it's strong

[earnest prairie]

if loaders power budget wasnt 100% in her utility (and slam) and 0% in everything else
i would play her
and a lot more people would play her
thats the point we are pushing

[signal verge]

One of the reasons I like playing him.

[sinful plover]

yeah captain's skills do not mesh very well with each other

[pseudo gate]

imagine trying to cope with being shit at a game and making up stupid words like synergy lmao synergize yourself some fuckin bitches my man

[signal verge]

Rex is prob my second fav tho.

[signal verge]

[sinful plover]

besides like cancelling shotgun cooldown with taser

[stable sorrel]

Captain is fine

[quartz hatch]

All you need is m1

[olive python]

But loader players wouldnt play her anymore. A lot of them. Loader is on the COMPLETE OTHER SPECTRUM OF GAMEPLAY. If you remove loader's playstyle there is NOTHING with a similar gameplay loop. You cant just throw aside this extremely popular character because some Commando mains want to play her sometimes

[simple sun]

taser into orbital strike is fine imo but sure taser is underutilized

[violet sorrel]

Taser and shock beacon work together well with shft

[pseudo gate]

Loader is fun as fuck what are people on

[earnest prairie]

you can replace 3 out of 4 of his abilities with heresy items and be very well off (util debatably but still)
his skills have no rhyme or reason
they dont synergize
and he is carried by his braindead m1

[simple sun]

but I don't see how bandit is more than 2 skills either past stage 6

[stable sorrel]

the argument is that she's too strong

[violet sorrel]

The problem is they do barely anything to help m1 and using m1 just ruins the shock

[pseudo gate]

who cares

[quartz hatch]

It’s fun but stupidly easy

[stable sorrel]

I think the strongest 3 characters are probably Loader, MUL-T and Commando

[frank perch]

so tl:dr buff lodr, nerf hunterness

[obsidian badger]

Commando is weak

[olive python]

Every character is defined by only 1-2 skills in their kit, its obvious these people dont understand that.

For one skill to feel good, it must be better than the average.

[quartz hatch]

Commando?

[pseudo gate]

the l oading community is dying tag your friends to load with them immediately!

[hollow trellis]

Mando strong :Mask:

[sinful plover]

merc and arti

[earnest prairie]

if you want big hits you can still play artificer
and the fact that most of the playerbase stacks backup mags/purity on her shows that very clearly
loader isnt the only hard hitting character

ror2 is not the type of game where that change will ruin the playerbase forever lol
its a roguelike for gods sake

[stable sorrel]

nah y'all are trippin Commando uses so many items better than the other survivors it isn't even funny

[simple sun]

Maybe they mean more early game but even then I don't mind a character being defined by 2 skills and a overpowered passive item

yeah the beacons are all kinda stupid useless

[junior zephyr]

Commando Gang.

[hollow trellis]

This

[olive python]

You REALLY THINK that people who play loader will like SLOW ARTI? LMAOOO

[sinful plover]

acrid or rex or bandit probs

[grim cave]

Cope???? Shock is good for stunning things like elder lemurians you can’t run away from because you have no mobility by default on captain

[olive python]

It wont ruin the games playerbase, itll ruin loader's

[grim cave]

Shock good but it’s effectiveness diminishes later on (still good tho)

[sinful plover]

(for third place)

[stable sorrel]

Captain's beacons are good imo people just get stuck on the hacking beacon for some reason and forget the other ones exist

[earnest prairie]

yes ruin is the best special for him and m2 is useless
but atleast his m1 feels better + his special is actually fun to use (NOT DESPERADO) and not just fire and forget
and his gameplay is more fluid

[signal verge]

Imo mul-t Rex and loader, not counting heretic.

[olive python]

"We reworked loader. A similar character you should try is Arti!"

LMAOOO

[long ravine]

Bajsjsjsjdkkajahdhajahdhahhasjsjjasjhrusha

[grim cave]

The shrine of chance………..

[stable sorrel]

healing beacon is good and so is the resupply beacon. You can take one of those and still have one hacking beacon

but people gotta be greedy for those items

[winged ferry]

the dentist when i take a bite out of their stupid teeth scraping tool

[violet sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-ratio-cancelled-twitter-cringe-gif-23133228

[simple sun]

I don't see any value in healing, shock or resupply beacon tbh

I don't need more defense as Captain and Resupply seems so highly situational

[late plover]

Hacking beacons are nice for speeding up runs early on. But think all his beacons have a purpose

[signal verge]

Hacking beacon is best, and I agree.

[earnest prairie]

yes man nerfing loaders util dmg buffing m1 dmg and adding some extra flair to pylon will definitely completely destroy loaders playerbase and turn her into a dead survivor for every single person on planet earth that has ever picked loader before

[quartz hatch]

Hacking is kinda funne

[violet sorrel]

Also you like didnt read what I said at all

[stable sorrel]

Resupply is super strong with a few items

[simple sun]

like glowing meteor

[signal verge]

[violet sorrel]

I didnt say shock is bad, I said it doesnt synergize at all with m1

[hollow trellis]

Ok gupd1 here is a verdict, arti is to weak to have fun consistently on her, lodr in perfect spot

[earnest prairie]

lol

[stable sorrel]

I have cleared quite a few Eclipse runs with resupply and preon combo just completely obliterating Mithrix

[earnest prairie]

matoi take as per the usual

[olive python]

Yessir, changing the gameplay loop of one's main does infact negatively affect their players. Some will like the new one more, some commando players will now like Loader, yes. But a good portion of Loader players wont like the changes.

[violet sorrel]

Unless you see cancelling a shot once per 7 seconds as a massive benefit

[quartz hatch]

Arti with all alts is objectively the best arti

[olive python]

And because Loader is so unique, if they dont like loader anymore theyre highly likely to quit

[undone dock]

ACDAHGFJC nwmesjtihvklg;rtaglbs,hmdlg;atvhrbye

[junior zephyr]

Tfw in development Resupply Beacon used to regain its charges.

[undone dock]

GUP

[sinful plover]

change can be good

[hollow trellis]

Best arti still bad charati

[chilly viper]

i literally came here to see everybody's reactions to gup and then i realize it's called gup discussion

[hollow trellis]

Oooopps

[stable sorrel]

that would be op

[quartz hatch]

Scroll up to when it was released

[olive python]

Yes but the character is currently popular and loved. Why change the whole gameplay loop because some Commando mains think it can be better?

[violet sorrel]

Look at the cute antlers

[quartz hatch]

You will see nothing but gup for miles

[earnest prairie]

her gameplay loop will stay the same its just that you will have one single extra step in her normal damage rotation BUT you will have more things to do when your damage rotation (UTILITY) is on cooldown
its not a total game-ruining overhaul

[misty forum]

THEY ADDED GUP BACK IM SHAKING AND CRYING

[olive python]

Ppl are saying the same thing back lmao

[sinful plover]

you don't need to completely change all of it

[earnest prairie]

slight number changes arent ruining her gameplay loop

[stable sorrel]

I think the solution is to just give EVERY character in the game a grappling hook. Anyone in agreement?

[late plover]

I miss when artis m2 didn’t lob the way it does now.

[chilly viper]

yeah new elite type is also big hype

[junior zephyr]

Captain was originally going to have a Beacon that makes you guaranteed block one hit and that's it.

[median summit]

Yes

[stable sorrel]

There has never been a game that wasn't improved by a grappling hook

[violet sorrel]

And the ADORABLE PASSIVE HEALING I AM SO HYPED TO SEE THAT WHILE FIGHTING A STAGE 5 OVERLOADING WORM

[olive python]

If you take power away from her punch, her current grapple onto something and oneshot it is changed. The boss-dmg niche is changed.

[quartz hatch]

Holy mantle in ror2????!??!😳

[simple sun]

somehow just don't take damage at all

[hollow trellis]

Battlefield 2042

[signal verge]

Jesus Christ can’t y’all just drop it and agree to disagree? This is getting us nowhere.

[junior zephyr]

Can confirm ULTRAKILL got even better.

[earnest prairie]

like OH YEAH BTW
artis nanobomb used to not have gravity
now it does
pretty significant change, right?
did it ruin artificer's playerbase?
OH WAIT IT DIDNT

[late plover]

I want to play acrid with a grappling hook, let’s do it

[olive python]

Number changes wont allow Pylons to be added without making her even more broken

[chilly viper]

the amount of glowing meteor use looks like me playing ror1

[simple sun]

there is no arti playerbase

[white kelp]

Heh

[quartz hatch]

** cause from what i can tell all you have to say is the same exact thing but caps lock and screaming LMAOOO at people to project your own inability to provide anything worthwhile onto others**

[earnest prairie]

it is changed because now you have to hold m1 for two seconds afterwards
oh noooooooo the character is ruineeeed

[late plover]

Imagine giant poison doggo swinging into your window on a grappling hook

[stable sorrel]

that's not the same thing as completely changing Loaders gameplay

[frank perch]

damn, it's been a while since i've gotten the true gd1 experience of shitty arguments

[hollow violet]

[hollow trellis]

Arti fanbase is only exist at r34

[olive python]

Arti gameplay loop is still incredibly similar lmao

[violet sorrel]

Jesus can yall stop arguing so we can start spamming @midnight socket commands oh my god

[signal verge]

[stable sorrel]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xsMaa4WKycsKv_BE3shJhSiuzk5YtVG4G9lpcHTyGns/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/559901453834256404/918616675048357889/unknown.png

[earnest prairie]

about pylon
i would like an extra interaction outside of simple number changes
because rn pylon is useless compared to slam

[olive python]

And arti is one of the least popular characters. Loader is like 2nd highest

[median summit]

Mult needs grapple hes so trash

[white kelp]

Tell that to the people who have been arguing over slicing winds and evis for almost a year now

[hollow violet]

t!selfrole get fucker

[sinful plover]

caps lock and screaming lmao? now where have I seen this before...

[earnest prairie]

exactly

[ocean mountain]

The Fun module is disabled in this server.

[hollow trellis]

No fun

[ocean mountain]

The Fun module is disabled in this server.

[earnest prairie]

you swear by that poll like its the bible
there are still a lot of people playing artificer myself included
for a 2nd most popular character you see very little people with loader roles/discussing loader in any positive light in general in any of these chats lol

[olive python]

The ability is shit because her other abilities by design are broken.

Grapple is OP no matter how much you nerf it, unless its reduced to atoms in terms of usability.

Punch is currently really fun because of big deeps. If you nerf big deeps the gameplay loop will change heavily as a result

[gusty oar]

hi gd1 goodnight bye

[olive python]

I quoted someone?

[white kelp]

Do you have the acrid part

[sinful plover]

I don't think that's what he meant

[earnest prairie]

giving her m1 a bit more damage while making pylon not trash is completely changing loader gameplay yes
you think ror1 bandit was strong why did i even bother responding

[hollow trellis]

Poison better

[sinful plover]

yeah

[olive python]

Someone else said that I just quoted them.

[signal verge]

Omg where did this come form

[onyx sigil]

four big guys

[violet sorrel]

Almost like loader is the most popular because their mobility is a good blend of fun and easy to pick up 🤔

[sinful plover]

have you ever heard of the op merc build?

[signal verge]

and they Busting my eyes, they eat me out like apple pie.

[frank perch]

i love that image so much

[hollow trellis]

Send me his discord tag

[signal verge]

Nope.

[sinful plover]

yeah the person who made the op merc build also said those things

[autumn acorn]

she isn't unpopular, still widely played

its just a few people are dumb about her and think shes bad when she literally has a 2000% band proc and a '' i am now a substantially better version of commando m1 for the following 3 seconds ''

[white kelp]

Everyone who i know who has like 500+ hours and is active says loader is boring as balls

[dusty basin]

rex lowkey busted af

[olive python]

Gup/ler literally said "If you want big hits play arti"

[autumn acorn]

oh and a 1680% m1 discharge in beetwen every one of these

[signal verge]

Like seriously or satire?

[earnest prairie]

ok gd1 is mentally taxing i need to actually get back to my studies cya nerds

[white kelp]

Seriously

Its
Really good

[autumn acorn]

loader is fun if you play her like super rarely

(i have not picked loader in select streen in the last 150 hours)

[sinful plover]

oh boy

[signal verge]

[dusty basin]

a good rex player is literally immortal

[violet sorrel]

How many hours does the playerbase have in average?

[sinful plover]

and yeah they were serious

[signal verge]

Dm me all these pictures.

[olive python]

@shy kindle

[sinful plover]

that's all the pictures

[dusty basin]

like an overloading brass contraption or malachites are the 2 things that can take out rex

[signal verge]

This is amazing.

[sinful plover]

and you don't have to deal with malachites if you don't loop

[violet sorrel]

I'm not saying long term players aren't important, but iirc they're a vast minority

[earnest prairie]

thing is
that isnt what artificers intended playstyle is
its just that a lot of people have no clue about that and play around exclusively nanobomb
which is a hard-hitting ability

[onyx sigil]

i’m gonna gup

[olive python]

Yeah shes still a good portion of the playerbase. The was just a sub point. My main point was that giving nano gravity doesnt ruin her gameplay loop.

[late plover]

I’m just really disappointed, this is supposed to be gup discussion, what’s any of this got to do with our hero, gup? 😦

[earnest prairie]

ok now i go

[white kelp]

Because gup sux

[placid flower]

Tbh Loader was fun when I first started playing but after getting win after win even with trash runs, they all just blended together. Just rocket punch to grapple to m1 and occasionally ground pound and your done with the boss

[autumn acorn]

yeah its a very tiny difference

at most you dont snipe some lunar chimera wisps

[signal verge]

Isn’t artis play style is to do a shit ton of dmg?

[earnest prairie]

yep

[stable sorrel]

I think being able to knock pylon around for damage would be really cool.

[junior zephyr]

Post this Gup instantly.

[violet sorrel]

Only like 10% of the steam playerbase has MOST skills unlocked

[dusty basin]

loader isnt very fun imo

[olive python]

Has hopoo said what her intended playstyle is?

[late plover]

Ima gup u up >: o

[earnest prairie]

truth! because pylon sux compared to slam marginally

[stable sorrel]

I want to throw the pylon into a boss and cause a thunderslam explosion

[violet sorrel]

Which tbf only 60% or something have medkit so idk how to trust those stats

[signal verge]

I love Gup : )

[olive python]

This guy was saying that taking power out of Loader's punch and grapple and giving power to his R doesnt change his gameplay loop more than Arti nano bomb change

[earnest prairie]

do you know what her abilities other than nanobomb do

[stable sorrel]

But I also don't think I would be upset if Pylon got no changes

[autumn acorn]

lol

[late plover]

Good >:3 embrace gup

[hard verge]

who are you\

[median summit]

GUYS just give artificer a grapple boom problem solved

[frank perch]

73%

[white kelp]

Quit before 1.0 is more fair tbh

[olive python]

What is her intended playstyle in your opinion

[autumn acorn]

i want loader's dmg power allocated to the m1 and make its barrier less dumb

[white kelp]

The steam achievements didn't exist until 1.0

[earnest prairie]

skill rotations
actually using all her skills and not just nanobomb

[frank perch]

yeah, about 25% of people only playing in EA seems pretty doable, plus people who only play offline and as such don't get steam achievments

[quartz hatch]

Not using ion surge

[olive python]

Yeah I think barrier is the only place they could change loader. I personally want an alt M1 that has a 3rd hit that launches you forward a bit. Does less dmg then current m1 or something

[earnest prairie]

which is what the majority of the playerbase does (use only nanobomb and ion surge) and which is why they think she is underwhelming

[violet sorrel]

I want spiked gauntlet to pull pylon

[autumn acorn]

rotate your abilities
stay at close range most of the time when dpsing down bosses, use flamethrower, ice wall for enemies like elder lemurian

hungering for cube with alt m1

not using ion surge

[earnest prairie]

exactly

[sinful plover]

fuck ion surge
all my homies hate ion surge

[warped meadow]

her playstyle is big jump

[olive python]

I feel like if Hopoo really wanted the playstyle to not be nano-focused, they wouldnt make nano one of the hardest hitting abilities in the game

[frank perch]

finally, a good take

[sinful plover]

disgusting.

[warped meadow]

cant lose if they cant hit me

[earnest prairie]

you are factually incorrect mr game developer

[warped meadow]

see ya losers im flying cross country

[violet sorrel]

Good bizzo

[sinful plover]

badzozeron

[onyx sigil]

wow is that THE bizzo

[misty forum]

Spacebar

[onyx sigil]

no way

[olive python]

Enjoy your trip or whatever youre doing

[signal verge]

But surge is a crutch bizzo!

[quartz hatch]

Make jump do literally like 2 dmg plz

[dusty basin]

bizzo has spoken

[sinful plover]

even the devs suck at ror2 bro

[quartz hatch]

Maybe I’ll use it then

[warped meadow]

playing with both hands is a crutch

[olive python]

Bizzo using ion surge cross country

[signal verge]

[sinful plover]

he can't he's using ion surge

[violet sorrel]

Bizzo has spoken, move flamethrower down on the reddit skills tier list

[signal verge]

😔

[frank perch]

flamethrower:
average of about 1800% per second without flame
rapid sustained procs, insane with things like stickies or bleed
powerful dot stack, usually around 10 or so
within focus crystal range, synergizing well with close range builds
ion surge:
1 time 900%
you go up
bizzo approved

[warped meadow]

you do be going up

[autumn acorn]

her playstyle is already not very nano focused though
often in mid and late game because bands are op sure, but if you dont get bands then you still have a very competitive kit that works very well with all sorts of general dmg boosts save for attack speed

In early game, nanobomb has underwhelming DPS by itself too. Meanwhile flamethrower is 60% of her base dps, and flame bolt is stronger against a single target. She isn't exactly fully centered on nanobomb

[warped meadow]

I play double rebar too

[signal verge]

Bizzo, ice spear or nano bomb better.

[quartz hatch]

.

[olive python]

I only stated nano-focused because gup described her as Nano-spam

[sinful plover]

debatably cringe, but I'll let it slide ig

[autumn acorn]

ok using ice spear and big jump at the same time is just pain

[olive python]

I dont personally feel that way

[autumn acorn]

oh yea lmaoa sorry im dumb

[warped meadow]

and I use the combat roll on commando

[sinful plover]

hey bizzo what acrid loadout do you run

[warped meadow]

I got em all

[olive python]

np bro its all game discussion no big deal lmao

[quartz hatch]

Based developer

[olive python]

LOL

[violet sorrel]

Bizzo pls tell me you run melee poison with frenzied

[median summit]

I run double power saw mult

[signal verge]

They hated him because he spoke the truth.

[warped meadow]

I just play vanilla acrid

[sinful plover]

neat

[sinful plover]

repulsive. simply and absolutely repulsive.

[violet sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[olive python]

Whats the highest round you got in the new gamemode on sniper?

[warped meadow]

nice try

[sinful plover]

I can't believe bizzo betrayed me like that 😔

[olive python]

Damn itll work one time

Next expansion, 2023 Ill get ya

[violet sorrel]

Is void warden finished yet?

[earnest prairie]

bizzo whats ur merc loadout

[warped meadow]

vanilla

[sinful plover]

i stg if he says-

[quartz hatch]

Bizzo, do you use chef alt skills?

[earnest prairie]

HA

[sinful plover]

god fucking damn it

[warped meadow]

hahaha

[sinful plover]

I'm being trolled

[earnest prairie]

bizzo is defaulters alt confirmed

[olive python]

I run vanilla merc too actually

[warped meadow]

You're not I play vanilla merc

[sinful plover]

ok but bizzo did you get the croppa?

[olive python]

I love vanilla merc whats wrong with it

[compact helm]

G U P
🇬 🇺 🇵

[sinful plover]

nah dude life is trolling me

[violet sorrel]

Found some croppa

[quartz hatch]

Ok but how many minikits did you collect in the complete saga

[hollow trellis]

all alts

[earnest prairie]

vanilla merc can work
its just that you lose out on exposed which sux

[olive python]

I prefer i-frame spam hellfire tonic

[sinful plover]

yeah
I still hate evis though

[warped meadow]

how? You can still do the expose cancel dash stuff

[olive python]

My friend plays exposed spam its not for me

[violet sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/chocolate-gateau-yoda-lego-gif-21673167

[sinful plover]

you don't get sw

[earnest prairie]

sw is more fun for me as well
but im fine with going FA + evis

[sinful plover]

no it doesn't

[warped meadow]

Yeah but if i use slicing winds I can't do hellfire tincture invuln spam : ^ )

[sinful plover]

the feeeeeeeeeeeeel

[violet sorrel]

Evic isnt that bad

[compact helm]

i play melee acrid

[olive python]

MY MAN IS CULTURED

[sinful plover]

simply do helfire tincture without the iframe spam

[frank perch]

damn bizzo just keeps spitting good take after good take

[sinful plover]

helfire doesn't do much self damage anyways

[olive python]

Add void razorwire and make it op for us merc enjoyers please

[earnest prairie]

yea but
extra exposed from winds/focused
i just normally run FA + evis/BA + SW and its swag and based

[violet sorrel]

If you were really a good merc you'd know that you can get by eithout sw damage :)

[sinful plover]

bizzo is heretic fun

[frank perch]

if you were a really great merc you'd know to play a different character

[earnest prairie]

you can! but winds are fun to use
checkmate

[olive python]

gup/ler you got him there jeez

[earnest prairie]

ik ik

[violet sorrel]

Counterargument:

[shut veldt]

Did they change the uke sprite for the dlc?

[violet sorrel]

And no I will not elaborate

[earnest prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-gif-21702784

[olive python]

What if the reason why I cant fool the devs into leaking Sniper is that Sniper isnt in the game

[violet sorrel]

I hope they arent

[sinful plover]

I hope that's the reason

[shut veldt]

I would cry

[violet sorrel]

Imo the most boring character concept

[sinful plover]

sniper is a cringe baby

[violet sorrel]

Even more than enforcer

[olive python]

Miner and Enforcer exist

[warped meadow]

the uke sprite isn't that anymore afaik

[worldly sparrow]

did they drop chef

[violet sorrel]

Literally every game ever has a sniper character in it

[gentle path]

seems like they made the strings lighter

[mild orbit]

Is it possible that rebuilding the console version will add even more bugs?

[earnest prairie]

and the wood darker
huh

[olive python]

Bizzo why is Sanctuary not called Temple of the Elders

[mild orbit]

How does that work

[stable sorrel]

really?

[quartz hatch]

Yes

[warped meadow]

the uke just doesnt look like that anymore

so the icon doesnt

[worldly sparrow]

when chef

[stable sorrel]

huge poggers

[warped meadow]

the uke used an old sprite for quite awhile, the design of the uke itself didnt change

[violet sorrel]

"Yay another quirky burst damage character that works well with bands (underrated item) and has the option to just stay the fuck away from any enemy's attack range"

[deep talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/819970611258064906/905184105510088734/Salt2.gif

[olive python]

WAIT

[worldly sparrow]

Chef

[gentle path]

i like that now that Gup got in due to fan popularity, CHEF fans are suddenly coming out from everywhere lol

[quartz hatch]

Embed fail

[olive python]

WHAT IF THEYRE NERFING LOADER BY ADDING RANGED LOADER??? (sniper)

[violet sorrel]

What if

[warped meadow]

you dont think we wanted gup?

[solid siren]

i noticed better animations in some footage, is that placebo or was javid hired specifically for that + the new content animations?

[violet sorrel]

The real loader nerf

[worldly sparrow]

chef time

[violet sorrel]

Was the friends we made along the away

[sinful plover]

javid was hired so that they could make the new dev item javid's big motherfucking gun

[shut veldt]

Chef fans are gone cause everyone hates returning characters now apparently

[gentle path]

of course you didnt want gup

you included him from the start

[warped meadow]

The animation is all me and Duncan

[olive python]

When you adding Mechanical Spiders and Blighted enemies

[mild orbit]

What happens if rebuilding the console version introduces more bugs? Will it be a situation of, the bugs will be easier to fix?

[violet sorrel]

Also yeah the lobsters and blind boogers are animated to well

[worldly sparrow]

Chef when

[mild orbit]

Chef is def happening in the dlc

[olive python]

Ever since the Bandit update animations yall have been looking CLEANNNNN its such an obvious improvement all around

[shut veldt]

You guys did great on gups animation!

[warped meadow]

wait thats not fair to say

[solid siren]

damn they lookin 😩👌 big props basezozeron

[hard lantern]

Chef will cook gup (don't worry)

[violet sorrel]

Nah just sniper and enforcer for me

[warped meadow]

we do have another guy who animates some enemies

dont want to count him out he's just not on the core team

[solid siren]

did you fix arti's landing animation? or the lack of it lol

[mild orbit]

Gup a cutie. Those other wisp things are literal demons

[worldly sparrow]

CHEF

[earnest prairie]

blind pest animation is very clean and awesome and hoooooohhh ouagg

[winged ferry]

Bro he better

[mild orbit]

Can we get an aim assist slider for controller on PC?

[winged ferry]

I wanna play chef soooo bad

[olive python]

When are we getting Evolved Lemurians that can fly at us

[mild orbit]

Aim assist is WAY too strong on pc

[worldly sparrow]

WE NEED CHEF

[violet sorrel]

I'd be FINE with hand as long as they changed some things about him to make him viable in 3d, and I'd actually be happy if we got chef or miner

[sinful plover]

vultures

[shut veldt]

Fornite aim assist 😳

[olive python]

Imagine dive bombing vultures tho

[mild orbit]

I can't even use bandit sin e the aim assist is too strong to actually get behind an enemy

[olive python]

Dont use a controller forehead

[compact helm]

wait, theres aim assist?

[shut veldt]

Pc elite

[mild orbit]

Controller feels better

[compact helm]

controller disconnects from my pc

[mild orbit]

There's no aim assist slider for controller on PC, so literally if you're close up, it takes like 3 seconds to get behind an enemy on bandit

And as you can imagine, that's not very viable lol

[long ravine]

Yo guys look whos's streaming

[quartz hatch]

Somebody got banned for that

[low hemlock]

Hi gd1

[quartz hatch]

Gupfolder is back

[low hemlock]

I'm back

[frank perch]

g upfolder my beloved

[quartz hatch]

How many Gups did you fold

[low hemlock]

1

[quartz hatch]

More then 0😳

[long ravine]

No way

[low hemlock]

I played the dlc (trust me)

[inland citrus]

how does one fold a gup
they're quite round

[compact helm]

pancake them

then fold

[low hemlock]

So basically
You hold them then fold them

[low hemlock]

This works as well

[compact helm]

flat gup

[jaunty plaza]

How do you fold such a bouncy creature

[neat ruin]

btw @edgy acorn how blind pests are different from alloy vultures mechanically? can they land? be stunned? freezed?

[dusky sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain2-ror2-ror-gaming-gif-16995411

me omw to sucker punch the nearest void jailer

[compact helm]

his people need him

[low hemlock]

Well you see
You just fold him

[neat ruin]

bizzo gonna need 4x overtime payment for overhauling the game lmao

[inland citrus]

leaked footage of the survivor heading to mithrix

[compact helm]

i wonder if we're gonna get the children or not?

[warped meadow]

(javid has not been on the team since the anniversary update)

[neat ruin]

(we figured)

[low hemlock]

Hi bizzo

[edgy acorn]

well, they just kinda bob there shooting green spit from a surprising distance with surprising accuracy

[compact helm]

we have the grandparents and the parents, will we have the children

[neat ruin]

(meme is about iron man's computer jarvis)

[edgy acorn]

cos we hate merc

[shrewd quiver]

😔

[neat ruin]

so much better accuracy thnx thnx

warned means prepared

[solid umbra]

GUP

[inland citrus]

[simple sun]

commando fucking dies

[stray rose]

[uneven stirrup]

[sullen anvil]

gup is real no fucking way

[neat ruin]

me when
Merc has so much lingering invinc frames he cannot care

[gleaming maple]

hi gd1 (gup discussion 1)

[low hemlock]

[distant flower]

Yummy

[quartz hatch]

[low hemlock]

[distant flower]

🍴 😋

[sullen anvil]

the guy in #general is going to have a great day whenever they get back online

[shut veldt]

Call me crazy but there are two chests, each one could tease a survivor, so during the next dev thoughts, the next one will open teasing the second survivor, kinda like an advent calendar

[neat ruin]

edible

[quartz hatch]

Edible blob

[worldly prism]

@signal ember

[neat ruin]

these were just
items

[stable sorrel]

weed

[distant flower]

😋 😋

[quartz hatch]

@signal ember average mh player

[neat ruin]

\😐

[true pond]

NOOOOO

[low hemlock]

Me when they teased void crowbar

[solid siren]

@signal ember

[worldly prism]

@signal ember

[neat ruin]

cheers

[quartz hatch]

Average mh player

[slow acorn]

@signal ember

[quartz hatch]

@signal ember

[true pond]

@signal ember

[winged ferry]

@signal ember

[uneven stirrup]

Who?

[worldly prism]

@signal ember

[uneven stirrup]

Ah

[low hemlock]

Hi blegg

[shut veldt]

@signal ember

[shy harness]

Who is Gup

[lethal shale]

@signal ember

[worldly prism]

@signal ember

[signal ember]

PURPLE GUY

[uneven stirrup]

[compact helm]

gup is gup

[neat ruin]

why do we bully creamy again?

[quartz hatch]

@signal ember

[lethal shale]

@signal ember