game-questions-returns

[fervent copper]

This isn’t like ror2 where the difference between rainstorm and monsoon is minimal. Monsoon is very difficult compared to rainstorm here.

I still play on Rainstorm, even as good of a player as I am.

As for optimal gameplay, I would suggest you learn the maps layouts. It makes routing through them much easier when you know all the route you can take. Also try to activate the teleporter and continue looting. Unlike ror2 there is no tele radius to be aware of, so you can go off to other nearby chests and open them and the teleporter will still be charging.

[mental flame]

maybe you just find it more enjoyable? like maybe closer to how ror2 plays or something

[fervent copper]

I don’t like ror2 compared to rorr

[mental flame]

cause i will admit, sometimes it's really hard to enjoy rorr on monsoon because of the ridiculous kiting you end up having to do

oh i see

[fervent copper]

I find rorr much more enjoyable, from a game design perspective and a nostalgic perspective

[mental flame]

but you don't play on monsoon because you genuinely find it too difficult for your skill?

[urban hornet]

Sometimes I’m on the ship by 25, so, going too slow on monsoon probably. Going that slow should be giving you all the loot on the map too (barring shrines that you get too unlucky on)

[mental flame]

okay i can cook with that

let's see how it goes

[urban hornet]

Hell yeah gl

[mental flame]

i feel like my gilded drone is dealing more damage than me

hells yeah

[fervent copper]

I find it unfun. The enemy spam just isn’t enjoyable compounded with their big HP pools

[mental flame]

yeah same

that's why i've been so frustrated playing it

but i'm also kinda ocd when it comes to playing on the hardest difficulty so i get very reluctant to go to rainstorm

[fervent copper]

You gotta break that habit it will only hurt you

This is a single player game no one gives a fuck if you play on a lower difficulty

And if they do fuck em

[mental flame]

yeah that's why i said i was mostly an ocd thing, ik nobody cares

it comes from a place of irrationality

[valid finch]

You can always use damage modifiers theyre there for a reason

Monsoons definitely hard to get used to but you can beat it consistently

When being efficient enough in looting

[mental flame]

what is the benefit of taking reinforcer's grenade over shotgun?

[urban hornet]

none

lmao

[tender gazelle]

eh it's not that bad

[urban hornet]

i guess range but idk i never found i use for it, the reload isnt that good

it would be fine if there was a seperate key to reload on command and you didnt need to empy the clip to do so

[tender gazelle]

has a better proc rate

[proud peak]

I vastly prefer the grenades because of the range

[tender gazelle]

i think it might have btter single target but idr

[urban hornet]

but the procs are way weaker

[proud peak]

And because they arc so you can hit enemies below you

[mental flame]

seems to have a bit lower dps actually, mainly because of the reloading

[valid finch]

More proc attacks > slow but higher damage proc attacks

[mental flame]

and i didn't notice that big an increase in range, but maybe it can have its uses

[valid finch]

It has better scaling because of the procs

But less aoe

Shrimple

[mental flame]

and what about the other two of his alts? which ones do you guys prefer?

[valid finch]

Pretty much everyone uses shield tackle

[urban hornet]

meh, sometimes. Sheild charge does enough procs for anyone

[tender gazelle]

except me

[valid finch]

Not because the default is bad but more mobility is more fun

[tender gazelle]

i don't like shield tackle

i'm a shield tackle hater, even

[urban hornet]

sheild tackle is way way too strong, get one sticky bomb you cant really lose

[valid finch]

have fun using shield tackle on single targets lol

[urban hornet]

the humble wall

[valid finch]

Plus nades do solid aoe as well

[urban hornet]

the gun piercing is way more valueable than a few bits of splash aoe imo

[valid finch]

Ive been using nades for awhile and they dont disappoint

[urban hornet]

more consistent strong damage and works better with the shield

[valid finch]

The procs make it scale much better

Especially with stuff like medallion

[urban hornet]

lmao i may need to try them again

[valid finch]

Single target dps becomes much better

Which is super noticeable in enforcers weakest area

Provi

[mental flame]

does anyone use disperse?

seems a bit finnicky to use

[tender gazelle]

i like it way more than stun grenade

[valid finch]

Disperse is really solid

[proud peak]

People use stun grenade?

[valid finch]

Yeah stun nade is also good

Default enforcer is more of a locked down kinda playstyle where you can afford to turtle for much longer

Alt enforcer makes it so youre jumping in and out of shielded much more often

But you also get better on the go damage tools

Both are good

[tender gazelle]

i'm an x112 kinda guy

x means that either primaries work for me

[urban hornet]

disperse is super strong just jump before you use it so you can actually hit your shots

using on the ground usually only the first shot hits

[carmine sparrow]

Bought this game 2 days ago and the one thing I noticed Is that it's dead, even though it usually has 100-300 CCU there's always 0 lobbies both with and without mods, is there no one playing online in this game rn? And if there is I'd like to play with them, this is important because I'm deciding if it's even worth buying it for a friend...

[boreal ermine]

people tend to play in private lobbies, usually organized on places like discord

#lfg-returns-pc exists to organize games here

[old pewter]

also a good chunk play solo

[carmine sparrow]

Thanks

[mental flame]

what loadout do you guys prefer on pilot?

i'm really uncertain on rapid fire; sure, better dps is always good, but in a game where enemies pile up in huge clusters, willingly passing up piercing attacks seems wild

parachute also seems a tad better than dash cause most attacks only hit ground so being able to hover every once in awhile seems rather useful, while crawling on walls looks more gimmicky

airstrike i also think i like a bit better mainly because it has better kite potential, and in this game good kite is paramount

so i'm basically all default loadout i guess

[boreal ermine]

the trick is that your secondary infinitely pierces, so with some finagling you still have that crowd damage

the main use of the dash is its wavedashing tech which lets you get across the stage in mere seconds

[mental flame]

does anyone have any tips for beating chef's final providence trial? he's the first survivor i'm lowkey struggling to do it with, and the main issue is that i tremendously lack damage, like i pop the watch and can't even take down vagrant or ifrit for the duration
i've tried a full dps crit build, a max bleed build, nothing seems to change, i still don't do nearly enough damage

[mental flame]

nvm, just beat it

chef kinda sucks as a pure dps though

[north tendon]

I'm having issues getting the challenge "Amplified: Engineer: Acquire a beam drone." I am confused as I have got a beam drone as engineer in my last run assuming it actually is a beam drone. Any idea what is going wrong?

[valid finch]

beam drone is the upgraded version of the drone i assume youre mistaking it for

beam drone charges up for awhile and releases a giant piercing laser

its the upgrade from the drone that just has the little itty bitty laser

[north tendon]

I don't know why it has to be so confusing.

[jovial field]

put simply: Laser Drones and Beam Drones are different things, and you probably got a Laser Drone

Laser Drones look like this: https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/images/thumb/6/69/LaserDrone.gif/78px-LaserDrone.gif

Beam Drones look like this: https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/images/thumb/7/7c/BeamDrone.gif/92px-BeamDrone.gif

it's confusing because there are only so many names you can give to "drone that shoots laser beams"

[valid finch]

Its not confusing but it just doesnt say their names anywhere in the game

[jovial field]

-# no, it is confusing. beam drones are rare enough that it's entirely possible that some players may just not know they exist without having to look it up

[hard slate]

Sup guys

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-returns-risk-of-rain-stone-golem-stone-golems-hopoo-games-gif-9058415478704048274

[violet socket]

They are very similar words so it is pretty confusing
And the only way you can see their name is through their interact prompt
But if you don't know the name before then or buy it before reading the prompt you can't really tell which one is which

[mental flame]

which one of acrid's primaries is better?

i didn't immediately realize that the alt primary stacks, so that seems really powerful, but still don't know if it'll be statistically more worth it dps-wise

i figured acrid doesn't get to melee a lot especially late game, so maybe it would be problematic to apply all those stacks? idk

[valid finch]

its pmuch just kinda preference

for some reason default primary has a pierce limit

but overall its pmuch just "hey do you want more consistent sustained dps with default or alt primary which annihilates bosses or high hp targets"

[violet socket]

A skill is never meant to be straight up better than its alternate (though sometimes it ends up as such), but more so sidegrades with different gameplay styles
Default is more so passive damage in between your skills, while alt is more involved with trying to stack it as high as possible without losing it
Alt has more potential, but default is more consistent
Sorta like the intended gameplay styles between acrid's passives in 2

[old pewter]

i think alt cause it hits multiple enemies personally

[violet socket]

Wait default doesn't
Hit multiple enemies?
I've played him so much how have I not noticed this

[fervent copper]

It does

It just has a limit

Idk what it is

[violet socket]

I tested a bit ago, it hits literally just one enemy

The skill description does say "an enemy" while alt says "enemies" sooooooo

[old pewter]

yea its a pretty large factor

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[valid finch]

<@&559786374228738069> what a cool server!

[sudden marsh]

[carmine sparrow]

Is the game fully discontinued/finished or is there a possibility of a new update?

[boreal ermine]

the game cannot be updated due to unfortunate circumstances

[gleaming mesa]

What's this about?

[elder patrol]

The entity known as Gearbox Publishing does not exist anymore

Hence, no future updates

[fervent copper]

we should really get a pinned message somewhere so we can just refer people to that

[urban hornet]

^^^ ive suggested that before

[tropic parcel]

game still worth playing if not being updated? i just bought it today

[cunning lotus]

yah, it's very good

& a game not being updated does not make it not worth playing ...

[jovial field]

if you're looking to be excited for new content, i reccommend following Starstorm Returns

[urban hornet]

Absolutely. Hell I think it’s better for that fact

Mods fill the content gap

If you even think there is one to begin with

[empty wren]

Why no log? :(

[proud peak]

Firstly this is the channel for risk of rain returns, the ror2 one would be #ror2-game-questions
But since you asked here, playing on eclipse doesnt unlock survivor logs and if you didnt play on eclipse thats just a bug

[empty wren]

Ooh thank you my bad <3

[shut abyss]

any1 up to play

[carmine sparrow]

me

[inner root]

Never really followed the news abt returns after it released even tho i was aware of its release, is it ever getting updated and if not is there any particular reason why?

[tender gazelle]

not getting updated due to the developers being unable to even update the game

although it was probably not gonna get anything more than bug fixes & balance (and potentially steam workshop support) in any case

modding's still going strong even without that

[inner root]

They just built it on some dodgy code or just studio being unable to?

[tender gazelle]

the reason they're unable to even update it is because gearbox publishing as a company doesn't exist anymore and they have no one to push updates through

the reason it probably wouldn't have gotten any big expansions/updates is mainly because hopoo studios went to work at valve shortly after the game released

so rorr wouldve been a very side thing

[inner root]

This part is kinda silly you'd think as a studio and as a company you would stop things like this from happening 😔

[tender gazelle]

you'd think developers would be able to update their own game..

[boreal ermine]

it was a case of unfortunate circumstances, ip transfers or whatever was happening with gearbox back when it was being acquired

[agile narwhal]

one thing i dont get about that is what exactly went on w gearbox publishing. they didn’t literally just dissolve, right? didn’t they become arc games or something?

like I keep hearing ‘there’s no publisher anymore lol’ and my gut tells me that it’s not that simple?

[fervent copper]

They stopped existing when Take Two came over

[valid finch]

Unfortunately do be that simple

There was no cool death cutscene

When taketwo acquired gbx it just despawned

Gonezo

And rorr isnt popular enough to have gotten the attention of them so we can get updates again

[last scaffold]

this has probably been asked to death and is a bit of a loaded question, but generally is rorr just the better version to play over ror1? how's the modding scene?

[boreal ermine]

rorr is the better game
the modding scene is still developing though

[last scaffold]

i see
i have both games so ig i should just try both games and see which i like more, but that's a lot of time investment

[tender gazelle]

only thing you'd want ror1 for is it having more mods

[surreal portal]

who is a good starter survivor? I just started and did one run where I unlocked a few characters (loader,Drifter,Enforcer,Bandit,and Sniper)

[fervent copper]

Commando and Huntress are perfect for learning the ropes of the game, but given you have a win under your belt I would say Enforcer or Bandit are the simplest

[frigid onyx]

anyone got charts for how item stacking works in RoRR ive played like in RoR harvester scythe only increases healing when stacked do they change it in RORR

[warm hemlock]

... That's just how Harvester Scythe stacks in all the games

(In ror2 it doesn't stack crit, it only gives crit on the first stack)

[frigid onyx]

yes my question is meant for other items, are there any changes buffs or nerfs to item stackings

like IIRC RoR ukulele stacks chances RoR2 it stacks damage and range only

do they change it in RoRR

if theres a website other than wiki it would be helpful

bcoz IIRC wiki only copies logs which shows little to no info

[warm hemlock]

I don't think there is barring the wiki

Though I don't really think you need anything more than it

[warm hemlock]

Also unless you're playing lower difficulties Enforcer is one of the last survivors I'd reccomend

[fervent copper]

he's simple I didn't say he was good

[warm hemlock]

I wouldn't even say hes that simple

Like, I'd say hes more complex than Loader or even sniper

[valid finch]

yeah unless its ideal circumstances enforcer is probably the biggest new player bait survivor

oh wow! this guy is really easy! all i have to do is sit behind my shield against a wall and i win!

one run later

enforcer my goat ily enforcer

[urban hornet]

Yeah “use shield against a wall” is the worst advice the game gives, the enemies just walk behind you lmao. It works on the edge of platforms well though.

Loader is by far the easiest and best survivor for a new player

[violet socket]

In all games ukulele stacks damage (plus range in 2)

Iirc no stacking was changed in returns besides numbers

Except thallium because it just didn't stack at all in 1 lmao

Red Whip too for the same reason

[tender gazelle]

ror2 doesn't stack damage

[violet socket]

Oh right
I forgot it stacks weirdly

It stacks the number of bounces, right?

[violet socket]

Wrong..... Drifter exists :)

Permanent stunlock primary my beloved

[tranquil ruin]

Will rorr ever be on Xbox cause I want to play it 😢

[valid finch]

No

Maybe it was once planned to get a console port but devs cannot update the game currently

[urban hornet]

So does knuckleboom on 3rd hit (which will always connect since it’s ungodly fast) and the rest of his kit is braindead to use optimally, unlike drifter. Noobs will be overwhelmed by scrap mechanic, that’s something everyone forgets and I’ve seen happen in real time. Sure, better, but harder to use to max capacity.

[river mirage]

whats the most optimal acrid setup?

[fervent copper]

playing merc

[river mirage]

i agree

[fervent copper]

glad we could come to an agreement

[river mirage]

me too

[valid finch]

anything goes aside from alt utility

all acrid moves are good then theres alt utility

[river mirage]

tyty

[supple peak]

also don't run blight
it worksish early game but poison very quickly outscales it

[fervent copper]

wrong game

[supple peak]

woopsie 😭

[main barn]

who should i unlock next? i unlocked loader, enforcer, and bandit?

[fervent copper]

Look at the challenges for each unlock and do what you think is easiest

[humble solstice]

is multiplayer broken or is it just me

[valid finch]

How so

[simple oar]

whos the kill prov 5 times guy

[tender gazelle]

merc

[viscid mist]

does rejuv rack stack exponentially or linearly

[fervent copper]

Wrong channel

[viscid mist]

bruh

[novel crane]

quick question, when looping, does it always pick the same stage variant, or can it be different?

[boreal ermine]

it can be different

[novel crane]

trying to get artificer's prism skinb and it sucks being stage 1 lmao

[restive pendant]

Is there any way to increase enemy log drop chance?

[boreal ermine]

nope

[civic rock]

how do you obtain a golden drone?

is it a rng thing?

i remember getting it like twice but not as hand ironically

[proud peak]

Yeah golden drones very rarely spawn on the contact light

You're more likely to get one though by combining three tier 2 attack drones

I think the same applies to tier 2 healing drones but Im not sure

[civic rock]

...three.... tier 2 attack drones... or the contact light... god damn it and i thought the engineers beam drone achievement was gonna be the most annoying one

[tranquil summit]

uh i have a question if im fighting mithrix in 4 player co op (theres 4 of us) when he returns items do we get them like we had them b4?

were looping btw

[valid finch]

yes

also #ror2-game-questions

[tranquil summit]

ah sorr

[tranquil summit]

ty

[civic rock]

question for the artificers "Multi-kill 15 enemies" do they have to be killed exacly at the same time or there's a short window

ok nvm it has to be at the same time god damn it...

[agile narwhal]

if you haven’t done the dime a dozen achievement yet just do it as articer

[civic rock]

I alr did it

[agile narwhal]

yeah I only learned that in retrospect

I think I use sawmerang for multikill

[civic rock]

My last achievements left are the "obtain a golden drone as MUL-T", "kill Providence while backflipping as sniper" "win on moonsoon as mercenary"

[agile narwhal]

And just hoarded up lemurians

[civic rock]

(for characters I still have provi trials left and the artifact of origin)

[agile narwhal]

gold drones a pain tbh

no real way to cheese it

[civic rock]

I just used the artifact which spawns only 1 enemy type, restarted till I got lemurians

And low-key used the M2 to kill them all

[agile narwhal]

oh when you said you did it i thought you meant just dime a dozen

nice

[civic rock]

(ofc with the damage multiplied by 200%)

[civic rock]

I honestly don't even remember that achievement

[agile narwhal]

Kill 12 w gold plated bomb

[solemn hearth]

what character should i use for my runs? i unlocked bandit and enforcer(i think?). also i do believe i can get every move for the other 2 characters

[violet socket]

You should mostly decide on preference, but bandit is more engaging than enforcer however enforcer can be more powerful/easier than bandit

[warm hemlock]

You can unlock them for all the characters you've unlocked so far to my knowledge, since all of Bandit and Enforcers alts are from Providence Trials

As for which character is "better" bandit is easier to understand imo (Especially if you have the flashbang, not many things get easier than just standing inside a circle and having something that disables the enemies ability to attack)

Enforcer seems like he'd be an easy character however he takes a bit of getting used to

[solemn hearth]

i just think my problem right now is that im so used to ror2 that i just stay near the enemys without any strategy so i wanted to get some advice since what im doing isnt working at all. so thank u @warm hemlock and @violet socket !

[violet socket]

There are two that aren't really obtainable realistically (if you can't make it far) or are locked behind other providence trials, which are Huntress alt primary and Enforcer alt special

[warm hemlock]

Sometimes depends on the character but the best thing to do if you wanna disengage is jump without attacking

[violet socket]

Alt special is way far away from enforcer's other trials

[warm hemlock]

Ah, I did forget about Enforcers Alt Special being locked away by a lot

[warm hemlock]

And then just move away from the crowd until you're at a safe distance

[solemn hearth]

thats what i heard, but what i have been doing is abusing the invincible move from bandit to get away and heal

it 100% works if i have a charge

[violet socket]

That's not really abusing, thats its intended use........ Also overloadings can bypass this if you're not careful

[solemn hearth]

things can bypass it???

[violet socket]

Most of the time it doesn't matter, but indirect damage can get you

[violet socket]

You're only invisible, not invincible

[solemn hearth]

but it said i was invincible : (

[violet socket]

Read again :)

[solemn hearth]

i think i need to play on drizzle more..

[warm hemlock]

Doesn't it give the immune buff to you?

Haven't played with it in a while but I'm fairly certain it makes you invincible

[violet socket]

Oh huh on testing it does??
Ohhhhh wait I think it was 'cause of the overloading bug

That
Explains everything

Doesn't help that it doesn't turn you invincible in ror1 lol

[solemn hearth]

i guess other then bandit i played like 5 runs with huntress and have been going for other characters since

apparently miner is fun

[violet socket]

Miner is VERY fun............

(I'm your local miner main)

[solemn hearth]

ill get try to go for him in this run then

[north tendon]

Does the challenge "Drown 20 whorls" count across runs or does it have to be in the one run?

[north tendon]

Just got the achievement now.

[boreal ermine]

:<

[prisma path]

Can you scrap backup drones

Apparently drifter is really good but I think it might be hard to obtain her lmao

Ok I just found out you can't

[warm hemlock]

You can but they wont give you an item

At least from what I remember

[prisma path]

Oki

So like uh

What's the best strat for unlocking drifter then

[warm hemlock]

Whilst they don't give you an item they still count towards the achievement

So like, if you have them you can use them

[prisma path]

Ohh

I didn't realise that because I swear they weren't doing anything

[prisma path]

Haven't unlocked her but

Is artificer as bad as everyone says she is?

[civic rock]

From my expierence

Yeah

She is pretty bad

[prisma path]

Damn

I'm assuming because she just wasn't made for 2d?

They could've added captain tbh

He would've made more sense imo

I think

Wait no

He wasn't the captain of the contact light

[violet socket]

No, she's pretty good
Just hard to figure out and not entirely good damage-wise

[prisma path]

💔

[prisma path]

I see

[violet socket]

But really good gameplay loop

[prisma path]

Is pilot good or do I just like a mid character

[violet socket]

Pilot's incredible

Second best character

[prisma path]

Hell yea

It's because of the diagonal aim isn't it

I know there's a wave dash but I've only used the parachute

[violet socket]

Yea, and the fact it has incredibly lenient auto aim

With insane damage to top it all off

[prisma path]

Wydm by auto aim if I may ask

Like uh

Shots from secondary hit more?

[violet socket]

No, they literally lock onto enemies

[prisma path]

Oh I never noticed

I just used the face direction thing

[violet socket]

It normally shoots 45 degrees but it can target an enemy up to 45 degrees away from that point

Meaning it covers an entire corner of your screen

[prisma path]

Ohhhs

[prisma path]

Is there like a "best route" for emergency ejection

[agile narwhal]

idk abt best but I go right at the start then through the gap to the left (make sure you find that little column with the bounce pad, barbed wire, and a bunch of points)

and go for those little pockets in the middle with points in them (don’t forget to use your secondary instead of just spamming airstrike all the time)

[prisma path]

Yea

Does the secondary slow? Or is it just to take care of the enemys

[agile narwhal]

idk what you mean by that

[prisma path]

Sorry

Slow your fall

[agile narwhal]

doesnt slow enemies, just stalls you midair

Yeah yeah

[prisma path]

I see

It felt like it slows my fall but not by much

[agile narwhal]

so when you’re going into those weird shallow pockets, you’d dip in, use secondary to get horizontal, then airstrike to jump out of it

airstrike has a hefty cooldown so if you can get away with using a secondary instead do it

and def don’t go for killing enemies

[prisma path]

You sure

Actually yea I guess I just suck at dodging

Noted

Thank you :3

Also what does it unlock it doesn't show me

I swear

I'm assuming another skin? Idk

[agile narwhal]

red item

classified access codes

Very worth tbh

[prisma path]

That's the uh

War bonds type thing yes?

[agile narwhal]

Yeah

[violet socket]

No war bonds is the classified access codes type thing :)

It should show you the item while in the providence trials menu

[prisma path]

Ohh right

Nah

Just a lock symbol

I think

Anyway I'm struggling with the engineer plant healing one lmao

[violet socket]

Wait yeah it doesn't lmao

I have the trial done but I can tell because it doesn't even have this thing

[prisma path]

Ya

How do I do the engi plant one

[violet socket]

Get Off My Lawn?

[prisma path]

Ye

[violet socket]

Your turrets are great distractions, and some kills spawn an item somewhere on the map

[prisma path]

The chest holds a meat nugget

Is it worth

[violet socket]

There's a chest?

[prisma path]

;W; sometimes I die trying to get there

[violet socket]

Definitely not

[prisma path]

Yea

160

Ah

[violet socket]

Well actually it could prove useful
Try going for it near the end of the timer?

[prisma path]

The chest disappears like

After some time lmao

[violet socket]

Oh

I got to 1900 without the chest, so it should be somewhat easy if you can dodge well

[prisma path]

Alr

I beat it

Thanks :3

Ok wow I thought I was gonna unlock harvesters scythe not uh

Insecticide

Idk what that even is lmao

[violet socket]

New item introduced in this game......... Harvester's Scythe is locked behind an ror1 achievement

[prisma path]

Ohh ok

Ohh ok

[polar viper]

Is the new dlc coming to console?

[boreal ermine]

wrong channel

[prisma path]

Was the Mu Construct the only item that you needed to find in the world

?

[old pewter]

dead mans foot ig

[agile narwhal]

dead mans foot and toxin

*the toxin

[prisma path]

Okee

[prisma path]

How do I play miner? I've never made it past stage two with him

[prisma path]

Well now I've made it past stage 2

Ive never made it past stage 3 with miner

[civic rock]

All I can say is that I recommend getting miners alternative m1

Made it easier to play as him for me

[prisma path]

That's fair

Close range is really tough

Unlike hanD he doesn't have any good way to survive in close range for long

Sure he has the stun but

Idk drifter does it better

[valid finch]

he has the most iframes in game

crazy mobility

and stuns

he is the merc ror2 in rorr

plus his primary double procs when scorching

[prisma path]

😭 maybe I'm just bad at the game then

[valid finch]

actually its between him and debris shield loader

miner is probably up there with arti for hardest survivor

[prisma path]

Maybe I'm going into combat too often ? 😭

[valid finch]

nah you should always be in combat you just have to be good with managing stuns and ifrmaes

alt primary will probably be easier for you to use but normal primary is also plenty good

you just have to get comfy being close

[prisma path]

I guess 😭

Does alt primary unlock via trial?

[valid finch]

yeah

[prisma path]

Ight

[prisma path]

What is better

Sprouting egg or mysterious vile (idk if that's actually the name)

What is better

Sprouting egg or mysterious vile (idk if that's actually the name)

[forest nova]

Egg

It is the Cautious Slug of Returns

[prisma path]

Oki

[prisma path]

Miner is so difficult bro ..

[dry latch]

funny seeing u here

[prisma path]

YOU OLAY RISK OF TAIN

[lofty scaffold]

Idk why but he felt that way in og RoR1 as well

[hearty obsidian]

Do these portals do anything or are they just for show because im super confused about them

[proud peak]

This is where artifacts are spawned if you meet certain conditions

[violet socket]

If you find one of these, that means there's an artifact to find on the stage and it usually will be in that teleporter once the artifact is spawned

[hearty obsidian]

oh okay thanks

[earnest coral]

Anyone got like quick tips? I’m alright at the game I just wanna get better as I feel I’m missing some core things

[worldly shore]

Turn auto-fire on to prevent carpal tunnel, jump a lot to avoid attacks easier

[earnest coral]

Yeah I’ve gotten the hang of jumping from ror2 but I haven’t tuned on autofire yet so I will thanks

Funnily enough I just beat providence on rainstorm

[worldly shore]

Nice

[jolly oar]

Yo I'm new to rorr any tips or people who wanna play multiplayer (I'm on switch)

[agile narwhal]

coming from ror2 I think the big thing is looting during tp

you’ll be kiting stuff anyway and chests don’t lock in this game

[carmine sparrow]

Any tips for the last phase of Providence? He's already hard in the first 3,but the 4th one seems almost impossible no matter what...

[warm hemlock]

It comes down to positioning

If he did the laser aura when that's finished lure him to either the bottom or the top (and also try and stay moreso towards the side)

If he did the big laser however you should mostly be fine other than staying at the place where the laser is (duh doi)

The first tip however is only doubly important for when he gets to low health since hes guaranteed to do both a Vertical and Horizontal Big Laser

And if its in the middle to say the least it makes him a decent bit harder to dodge

Though once you can position yourself well his 4th phase becomes pretty easy

[carmine sparrow]

The first I beat him was on commando, I tried to stay more on the bottom when he did the laser attack, but I've basically beat him that time cuz of my dodges and an equipment that gives invincibility for 8 seconds, huge thx for the info though

[frosty spindle]

Is the game ever gonna get updated?

Or it's just tended to be just a remake and no more future updates

[boreal ermine]

game can't be updated due to unfortunate circumstances involving the publisher disappearing and the like

[fluid kernel]

adding onto this, i found it most consistent to stay on the bottom left of the arena when he does the vertical/horizontal lazer then hugging the top right platform for the rotating lazer

it makes the fight alot easier imo

[prisma path]

Is ifrit a lumerian? (I don't have it's log)

[boreal ermine]

nope

[jolly oar]

I think it's pilot

[prisma path]

Wait you might be cooking..

[prisma path]

Damn ok

[jolly oar]

Ikr

[sour cape]

hey uh, I recall seeing some kind of huntress zip involving the recoil from Pierce a couple years ago and accidentally having one happen to me a couple times. Is there a way to do it consistently?

[tender gazelle]

none has been found afaik

[sour cape]

damn

[tender gazelle]

apparently jumping before makes it more consistent for some, but it can still happen when you're chill on the ground so that can't be the primary reason

[sour cape]

I vaguely recall it happening right as I landed after jumping one of the times it happened to me

[prisma path]

Which keycard door has the toxin?

[boreal ermine]

upper left

storage

[prisma path]

Thanks

I didn't even realise it was there last time I got to contact light

Nor did I realise it was a hidden chest

[boreal ermine]

it's pretty well hidden

[prisma path]

Second question

There is a unlock for holding 4 keycards yes?

Yep I got the unlock

[frosty spindle]

can someone help me find images like this of the survivors i only found half of the survivors icons

on the wiki are small and blury

[boreal ermine]

you can scale em up in an image editor

[frosty spindle]

but the icons are so small in game that they end up like this

[boreal ermine]

like i said
use an image editing software to make the image bigger

[frosty spindle]

a bit blurry though

[boreal ermine]

what tool are you using

there should be an option for filtering or something like that

"nearest" prevents blur

[hexed bramble]

i just scaled up all of em gimme a moment

using aseprite

[frosty spindle]

for some reason i got a huge desire to draw some survivors onto the wplace thing

[hexed bramble]

god

ok ill have to send a few at a time or ill just dm

[hexed bramble]

the funny secret guy

@frosty spindle should be it

[frosty spindle]

thanks a lot

[grim rampart]

How do i get all the avatars

[trim raft]

do you mean survivors or skins

[proud peak]

<@&559786374228738069> another scam

[wise dove]

jiver8 was banned.

[real spruce]

how do i open the game console

[thin sandal]

Is the game ever coming to more consoles

[grim wigeon]

publishing company doesn't exist so i dont think so

game's kind of dead in the water

[shadow mural]

It sucks that the game will likely never receive any updates, either. A while back I've been asking to add Loader's Ancient Scepter effect to his M440 Conduit in the next update, since they forgot to add it in the game. Now it looks like it'll never happen.

[boreal ermine]

commando's slide has pretty unfortunate bugs

[native wing]

wasn't the cremator shell useless as well?

[boreal ermine]

that too

[modest compass]

Is there any eclipse equivalent in rorr other than cranking up enemy damage in rules

[native wing]

nope

[warm hemlock]

Nope

There's a mod that adds Eclipse but there isn't an official Eclipse-like Difficulty

[stable wagon]

how do i reset my save

[shadow mural]

I'd just make a brand new save.

[bright rivet]

can i unlock miner on the 3rd variant of magma barracks

[agile narwhal]

only the first 2

if you’re just going for the unlock disable the new stages in rules

[stable wagon]

how do i do that

[shadow mural]

Depends on the system you play it on. For Switch, you just make a new user profile. Not sure about other systems, though.

[stable wagon]

i play on pc

[stable wagon]

i figured it out

you hqave to find the numbered file in userdata

[livid garden]

im pretty sure there's an option in the game to reset your save data

ill boot up returns later to check

[boreal ermine]

there isn't

[hidden marten]

🗿

[nocturne tartan]

set scaling to none instead of cubic or whatever you have it set to

[river citrus]

are we going to expect more updates for risk of rain returns? it never got that workshop update that was teased or at least talked about.......

more support for it in general is good -3-

[hallow cosmos]

i wouldnt really count on it since hopoo games was sunsetted a while ago and gearbox is likely focusing more on the expansion to the sequel

this patch was talked about by hopoo like over a year ago at this point so i'd assume its just been sitting waiting for the publisher issues to clear up in order to be pushed

[quick crown]

how do i get the 2 new items

[earnest coral]

Can someone tell me what the music in the trailers (or grand teleporter) is

[wary tinsel]

Has anyone else had one of their artifact unlocks suddenly become locked again?

[pulsar terrace]

surface tension returns

[old pewter]

i know of it happening to 2 people

[wary tinsel]

Yeah it happened to me as well :(

[old pewter]

was it origin?

[serene saddle]

So the update of 32 players is not live?

[hexed bramble]

it should be, it’s just an experimental feature and might not function perfectly

[serene saddle]

It’s only for steam or is it on switch as well?

[hexed bramble]

right now only steam, they’re looking to see if it can be brought onto switch soon

[serene saddle]

Thanks

[carmine sparrow]

What are those?????

[earnest coral]

Thanks it’s a banger

[pulsar terrace]

They are secrets || One is a powerful new chance on hit effect that is now occasionally (35% chance) dropped by the special elder lemurian mini boss that unlocks the Miner when beaten for the first time, The other is tied to the new Jellyfish Drone. the Jellyfish Drone always drops a Nematocyst Nozzle when scrapped at a drone scrapper, however if you upgrade it into a Golden Jellyfish Drone before scrapping it drops a secret golden version of the Nematocyst Nozzle that fires 3 more projectiles than a standard Nozzle ||

[carmine sparrow]

Thanks a lot

[tender gazelle]

not sure if the first is guaranteed

[boreal ermine]

it seems like it's just higher than usual

boss_drop_unique_chance = 35 from his code

[pulsar terrace]

huh well I got it first try, was i just lucky then?

[boreal ermine]

yep you rolled a 35% chance

it's 15% for all other bosses

[pulsar terrace]

damn I stand corrected

[tender gazelle]

mmk

[pulsar terrace]

original comment now edited for the sake of accuracy

[vale ravine]

With the artifact of sacrifice, do drones still appear? I am trying to get 3 of the new drone

[slate badge]

i think so but ive been extremely unlucky with it so far

[vale ravine]

Yes, it does, thank you. I cannot get the second one before the first one dies on me

[slate badge]

ye it is really hard to unlock

maybe theres a tech we dont know about

and the freaking jellyfish's dead again || shit ||

[vale ravine]

Sad. I am at 2

[vale ravine]

Repaid kit and lots of rapid mitosis, but I am not getting red at all

[hollow briar]

Are the new drones spawnrate rare?

Getting 3 laser drones took me around 60 hours due to rng

[vale ravine]

Just guessing but I would say the same that golem drones

[violet fjord]

Hopped back onto RoRR and now my controls switched from the RoR2 style to default. There a way to change it back, or do I need to manually rebind everything?

[hexed bramble]

you need to rebind everything unfortunately

[violet fjord]

Damn.

[slate badge]

nope there is a way to change it back

just did it a few hours ago

[hexed bramble]

oh huh

[hollow briar]

Did they add a reconnect feature like ror2 has?

That would be sick af

[violet socket]

Can you
Elaborate

[slate badge]

"keybinds" --> "reset to default settings" --> ROR2

[violet socket]

I see

[slate badge]

I did it with lots of rapid mitosis and the equipment that stops time. You stop time indefinitely until having 3 drones.

but took quite the time

[slate badge]

yay 🙂

[slate badge]

actually i think i stopped the time forever

this was painful

[vale ravine]

GG!

[uneven meadow]

How do you display the health bar above your character? is it an accessibility setting?

[primal valve]

Yes, Mini Health HUD in accessibility settings

[minor helm]

Hey, a quick question here, during mission i found a white exclamation mark in blue circle pointing to the ground. No idea what it means, can someone help?

[short spindle]

You pinged the ground. Look in the settings, what your ping key is

[minor helm]

... thank you

[tawdry sonnet]

I need help with killing acrid in under 15 seconds. Anyone got any tips? Also, do I have to do the achievement using acrid?

[boreal ermine]

yes

[lusty tendon]

why is loader so difficult to unlock? what would be a good strategy for unlocking him?

[shadow mural]

Use Glass, or use Command and get a bunch of damage items. Also, you can change stage variants to original only to make Acrid guarantee to spawn any time you get Sunken Tombs.

[violet socket]

Just looping works well enough if you are getting unlucky from getting duplicates

[cerulean sedge]

hey guys uh does no one play ror

[grim wigeon]

rorr or ror1? a decent few have been playing returns recently ‘cause of the new update

[violet socket]

If you're referring to multiplayer then pretty much for some reason

[cerulean sedge]

ror 1 i will get ror return when sale

[grim wigeon]

ror1 is like 12 years old so I wouldn’t expect too many people

[cerulean sedge]

aight

ror2 crashed my pc 😎

[austere venture]

Hey guys, do we know when the update will be on switch ?

[warm hemlock]

If you've unlocked Drifter I think she can make getting Loader much easier

[lusty tendon]

i finally did it and accidentally beat the game on monsoon for the first time so thats awesome 🔥 🔥

[river citrus]

the artifact of origin is locked for me for some reason even though i already got it

[uneven meadow]

wait same here!

I have it in the artifact list but I never got the achivement

guess I'm stuck at 99%

[remote gulch]

challenge_unlock_artifact_origin_completed in save.json
As for @uneven meadow just use Steam Achievement Manager and unlock it

[river citrus]

you have it reversed

i have the achievement

i 100% this game on release p much

it's just not there in the game

[river citrus]

i put that in and it didn't fix the issue

[remote gulch]

Do you have everything else unlocked?

[river citrus]

yes everything else

idk why it's doin that

[remote gulch]

Check dms

[river citrus]

i didn't notice it was like that yesterday

ok

[violet socket]

The update for some reason did that and the devs don't know why
Its always either spirit, origin, or both

[river citrus]

one more year and they'll patch it 🙏

[solid heron]

I remember when I played RoR1 I was at 99.9% or whatever and spent probably two weeks trying to farm the nautilus things for the "drop these things into the void" challenge

also who trying to host a 24p run on rorr

[high fog]

As a ror2 player who just got returns what should I know?

[fervent copper]

This game does not play the same. Proc coefficients don’t exist, it either can or can’t proc items. Time scales faster. I would still say you should fill loot each stage, but be careful of the time cause it can bite you in the ass unlike ror2. Interactables aren’t locked while the teleporter is charging, and the tele can charge from anywhere, so it’s a good idea to still loot the map during the teleporter.

[high fog]

Ok, thanks! I have no idea why but I thought rorr would be easier (I was sorely mistaken)

[opaque hawk]

Real

I play rorr right after playing some ror1 and waow I am getting washed

[native wing]

stuff like rolls and such do have inmunity frames unlike ror2 so they're key to not dying often

[primal valve]

Jumping is one of your most reliable "not getting hit" tool.

[high fog]

Thank you guys

[civic rock]

WATCH WHAT BUTTON YOU PRESS AT FINAL TELEPORTER!!! You don't want to unintentionally loop instead of going to the boss trust me you'll need this tip

And looping here is muuuch more painfull if not prepared

[civic rock]

Ironically died more to accidentally looping rather than to the actual final boss of the game

[high fog]

Lol

You can just do it at the next stage tho

This kinda goes for both games but how do I choose which survivor to play as / main

[cerulean python]

just play whos fun and when u get bored play someone else idk

hard to give advice without knowing what ur playstyle is or anything

[inner quail]

I just did a clean installation of the game, and when I try do do I solo run I get this message,

---

############################################################################################
ERROR in action number 1
of Draw Event for object oSelectMenu:
index out of bounds request 12 maximum size is 11############################################################################################
gml_Object_oSelectMenu_Draw_0 (line 370)

[boreal ermine]

are you trying to play with mods

[lusty scroll]

where is gamepad support in settings, trying ot use keyboard and cant find gamepad support to turn it off

[inner quail]

@boreal ermine no, the opposite in fact, and uninstalled the game and even installed it on a different hard drive but this problem appears is there something else I need to delete?

[boreal ermine]

strange
no idea then

[brazen path]

I think I have a bug where I have the artifact of origin as locked even though I unlocked it. I didn't get the achievement either

I have picked up the artifact after providince was dead, and I also got the popup of "picked up artifact of origin", but no achievements

I also noticed that I could pick the artifact of origin at the game start settings, even though I didnt do the challenge yet at that point

[lunar saddle]

Has Artificer been buffed?

[cerulean python]

nope

[boreal ermine]

lmao

[violet socket]

The update broke it slightly in that it actually unlocks the wrong achievement
Of course if you already have the achievement the popup won't appear

[brazen path]

I dont have the steam achievement

😭

[wary tinsel]

Does arms race stack with diminishing returns or not?

[violet socket]

No

[wary tinsel]

I'll keep that in mind then

[violet socket]

Basically, it just gives half an atg and half a mortar tube per stack to your drones

[runic fox]

Which is still really potent though as iirc those are triggered off of the attacks of the drones, not the player.

[keen atlas]

Wait can miner actually burrow through the ground?

[lost ridge]

huh

[runic fox]

Nope.

You might be thinking of destructible ground tiles, which are pretty much always used for secrets and the like.

Those can be broken by any character, just a lot don't have a good way to hit them since characters usually only hit on the same level or higher.

[violet socket]

Well yeah if it didn't it isn't arms race anymore

[runic fox]

I've fond memories of floods of rockets and mortar shells from groups of drones.

[wary tinsel]

Speaking of which I forgot if there's a way to bolster the survivability of drones besides the repair kit

Because mine always end up getting mulched one way or another

[boreal ermine]

all sources of invincibility transfer to drones

[prisma path]

What does the umbrella do? I just picked it up for the first time and it just said "they fear the rain".

[old pewter]

invulnerability + damage enemies during tp event

[prisma path]

I see

Second question

I'm struggling hard on just beating the duplicator challenge

[livid garden]

duplicator is a massive rng fest, but what you wanna do is use salvage as much as you can

[livid garden]

to be exact it's 15 seconds of invincibility when a tp event starts. one of the best items in the game

[lost ridge]

i love it

lets you deal as much damage as possible

and by the time it runs out the boss is dead

[prisma path]

🥹 should I bother with the chests

[livid garden]

i barely remember how i did it sorry

[prisma path]

It's oke

[primal valve]

Yes, you want to reduce Salvage cooldown as much as possible as fast as possible, loot small chest first if your first salvage gives you duplicator, otherwise loot one big chest first to get Duplicator and start printing.

[shadow mural]

Get your first Alien Head from a chest ASAP, then head to the top of the map and farm for Salvage items for the rest of the mission.

The thing to keep in mind is that you'll get a LOT of Substandard Duplicators and Alien Heads even from Salvage, so you'll be able to reduce it's cooldown to zero pretty fast. From there, just spam Suffocate and Salvage, and the items you get should help you kill the bosses pretty fast.

[prisma path]

I beat it thanks gang

[prisma path]

Haven't even unlocked it but

Does robomando have a ancient septre varient?

[old pewter]

yea

[prisma path]

Idk why but that's surprising

How does it even work it's already busted

With how it's literally free

Items

[old pewter]

20% for double

[prisma path]

That's goated

[wise sigil]

Lads, which one of the Bandit's revolver shots is the best? I am currently using lights out.

[lost ridge]

desperado

bandit already has low cooldowns

[livid garden]

this is rorr

lights out is generally better here imo, since it combos into itself and lets you spam more juicy flashbangs

[agile narwhal]

huh

both his utilities have like around 15 s cooldowns

[lost ridge]

huh........

[agile narwhal]

oh you were talking 2 lol

[lost ridge]

no

[agile narwhal]

I forget its called standoff tbh

ok

[lost ridge]

ah

right

[agile narwhal]

i think even the revolver itself has a higher cd in this game

[prisma path]

Two questions

1. What does the white undershirt do

2. How to I get the boar beach environment log

Figured out how to get the environment log

[boreal ermine]

white undershirt gives a tiny amount of armour

which gives a few % of damage reduction

[prisma path]

Oke

[shadow mural]

If you keep going to the right after picking up the Environment Log, you'll pick up a Prism Shard.

[prisma path]

I tried

[wise sigil]

I have another question, but it is more of a reassurance. Character unlocking that requires you to be on a certain level (Miner, Acrid, Han-D) wont always be there, right? Last time i was in magna barracks, i couldn't find the miner for shit.

[old pewter]

unfortunately no they wont, its dumb

han-d is always there tho

[lost ridge]

han-d is always there, acrid always spawns if you turn off new levels iirc, but miner is truly luck based
shouldnt take too long though, just check if the bottom right of the map has the tunnel

[wise sigil]

Ye, thanks vlad.

[shadow mural]

You have to go all the way to the very right. Also, the prism won't show up unless you've unlocked the character for it.

[prisma path]

Oh no the parkour

[shadow mural]

For Miner, you have to do it before activating the teleporter.

[wise sigil]

That's useful, thanks.

[prisma path]

Question

Do I have to stay in shield mode FOR 25 minutes or a TOTAL of 25 minutes?

[boreal ermine]

where did you get 25

[prisma path]

I swear I read it as 25

[shadow mural]

It's 5

And it has to be 5 minutes straight, while attacking.

[prisma path]

So I just need to attack

Like hold down a button for 5 minutes?

[shadow mural]

Yep

[prisma path]

I can do that

[wise sigil]

Drones that require an HP sacrifice are destructible?

[warm hemlock]

Yep
And you can't repair them

So uh, don't let em die

[wise sigil]

Well, shit.

[shadow mural]

Drone Repair Kits help keep them alive

[boreal ermine]

invincibility transfers to your drones

[hot needle]

is there an efficient way to do this unlock or do you just have to have a long ass run

[fervent copper]

Just grind

[boreal ermine]

play monsoon and loop until it's done

[hot needle]

does "hurt" mean getting hit at all? ill stack guardian hearts and hermit's cloaks and never take any actual damage to my health yet i still wont get the achievement

[fervent copper]

don't get hit at all

zero damage taken

[shadow mural]

Don't take any sort of damage, for any of the three stages, period. This includes fall damage, health shrines, golem drones, and using Lost Doll.

I strongly recommend using Glass and Command, and stacking up on Hermit Scarves and Heroes Capes, and get a Ceremonial Dagger.

[agile narwhal]

idk if losing shield counts but you can def just use prophets cape and scarves

[runic fox]

Glass alone is enough for that imo, definitely not a melee character achievement though.

[shadow mural]

I think taking Guardian Heart/Topaz shield damage counts, but don't quote me on that.

[fervent copper]

It does

It’s any damage taken whatsoever

[prisma path]

What counts as taking damage for Miners level 10 achievements?

If I take damage but have guardian heart or prophets cape up?

Does that count?

[lost ridge]

guardian heart probably counts as damage

but prophet shouldnt

its a block like

[boreal ermine]

ANYTHING that reduces any form of health, including shield and barrier

[primal valve]

If health bar number goes down it is damage taken (excluding barriers natural decay), Prophets Cape works because it immunes hits taken as does Hermit Scarf procs.

[shadow mural]

@prisma path I gave this advice for Commando's challenge, but it applies for Miner too. Also, use Sacrifice and stay on the first stage.

[prisma path]

Oh oke

[prisma path]

Don't have it lmao

What's the best uh loadout??

[lost ridge]

roll

and probably full metal jacket

[shadow mural]

Don't have what?

[prisma path]

Command

*sacrifice

I have command;W;

[fervent copper]

1112 or 1212

Just use shotgun and roll

Secondary is up to you really

[lost ridge]

full metal jacket is probably better because you do not want to get close

[fervent copper]

no shotgun absolutely clears it

FMJ has terrible dps and can only hit a single target, shotgun pierces large crowds

If you are running the rules that getting hit even once equals death you want to dispose of the enemies faster than they can dispose of you

[lost ridge]

...full metal jacket is default m2

you are confusing it with suppressive fire (default r)

[fervent copper]

oh I am

[lost ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602067256079286283/1254591108558753914/catwait-cat-wagging-tail.gif

[prisma path]

I'm kinda confused uh

I was on about miners alt load out

When. Asking

Tbh I don't even know what full metal jacket is

Isn't that combat knife?

[fallow oxide]

No

Commando has 2 secondaries

FMJ and Knife

[prisma path]

Whaa

[fallow oxide]

FMJ is a piercing attack that deals 230% dmg without decaying after each subsequent enemy

[prisma path]

ITS CALLED FULL METAL JSCKET?

😭😭😭😭

[fallow oxide]

Knife is a melee attack that wounds enemies which makes them take more damage

[prisma path]

I never looked at the name

Why is it called full metal jacket it doesn't

WHA

What does no damage commando unlock again?

[fallow oxide]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg

The mace

[shadow mural]

You unlock the melee equipment with a ranged character.

[prisma path]

Bro is it me or is that wiki displayed better then the ror2 one

[fallow oxide]

Aw thanks

[prisma path]

You uh help on the wiki or something lmao

Idk I'm probably dumb

[fallow oxide]

I did a lot of data mining

And only that

[lost ridge]

big bullet

[prisma path]

Ohh coolsie

[lost ridge]

ror2's version is more scifi so its called phase round

[fallow oxide]

Backend is probably how you’d describe it

[prisma path]

I guess but

Full metal jacket is like armor right? 😭 Why is a bullet called that ;W; I'm not good with weapons

[lost ridge]

nope thats a bullet name

[prisma path]

Huh ok

[boreal ermine]

name for a type of small arms ammunition

[prisma path]

I see

[fallow oxide]

Or a movie 🙂

[prisma path]

Another question

How do I stop Robomando from instantly facing the other way when I jump and aim?

(On switch)

[shadow mural]

Use the R stick

[prisma path]

I do

And it still moves the other way

[shadow mural]

Do you hold the direction you're trying to aim throughout the entire jump?

[agile narwhal]

I think you might just have stick drift lol

[ebon vortex]

wait, this game is remaster version of very original ror?
or just ror that went through countless updates

[runic fox]

You might have stick drift.

[runic fox]

I already answered you in #risk-of-rain-returns, basically remaster.

[ebon vortex]

oh srry, didn't see

[ebon vortex]

oh wait, i still have my hand on ror1, noice

2013 one

[prisma path]

I definitely don't lmao

It's alr I'm probably explaining it weirdly

[ebon vortex]

huh... where is original ror community?

[prisma path]

Kinda doesn't make sense to have one seeming as rorr is kinda the more popular one right?

Basically when you get rorr

RoR1 is pointless

Aside from flashbacks ig idk

[ebon vortex]

i just want to give ror1 a shot because someone gifted me for no reason back in 2021

[prisma path]

Oh I see

Yea it's fun, I feel like it's unbalanced a bit idk

[runic fox]

It still has its charms imo, plus there's mods for it that aren't in rorr.

[zealous pilot]

I highly recommend playing RoR1 first, if only for Starstorm

[shadow mural]

It also has Miner without the Scorching mechanic.

[native wing]

Wait really? I can't remember

[shadow mural]

Yup

[native wing]

I haven't touched ror1 miner in over a year prolly

[shadow mural]

The Scorching meter was added in Returns, so Miner was just a melee character focused on I frames and mobility.

[ebon vortex]

ror1 is very good, meanwhile biggest problem is bit confusing control, very good mosnter, quality, but damage output from commando is quite lackluster when starting game with literal no achievement

rating: 7.5/10

ror 2013, not return..

[native wing]

I think one of the most important takes about ror 2013 is that, while returns is better in every way, ror1 is still a good game, even with it's flaws. You can play it, finish it, whatever.

[ebon vortex]

i left early becuase of football game night :(

[violet socket]

Not a remaster, its a remake
Code was rebuilt from the ground up and there's new content

The code being rebuilt makes it not a remaster by definition

[violet socket]

Not really iframes, but mobility yes
It was more of a
Crowd control character?
Just kinda good at stunning and killing crowds

[old pewter]

oh damn cant post ror1 invite here

[prisma path]

Does flashbang work on providence? I know it wouldn't really work anyway since he's very slippery but still

I just wanna know

[warm hemlock]

It does actually

Bandit is able to just bully any enemy with the flashbang (barring worms and ig some fliers) Its hillarious

[prisma path]

I won the very first run i switched to flashbang

ITS SO MUCH BETTER

[zealous pilot]

Dude.. fuck yes... free grok crypto!

<@&559786374228738069>

[wise dove]

mathongas was banned.

[zealous pilot]

^_^ yayyyyyy

[livid garden]

2121 bandit is one of the best builds in the entire game

(1121 is good too, light's out just enables flashbang to a RIDICULOUS degree)

[rose karma]

WE LOVE WHIP!

[fallow oxide]

<@&559786374228738069>

[wise dove]

walkerexzero was banned.

[dense matrix]

Get em

[worn peak]

Is there some strategy for getting the Rolling Thunder Commando achievement except for dumb luck?

[lost ridge]

thats a ror2 achievement, youre in #game-questions-returns

anyway, play on monsoon for faster scaling and use all the mountain shrines

not sure if theres a deeper strategy than that

itll probably get easier when artifact of prestige comes out

[worn peak]

oops, sorry!

I'll ask there

[floral cradle]

does mace replica trigger on death effects?

[shadow mural]

Only if it kills an enemy

It does activate Telescopic Sight though, so if you have that you're guaranteed to get on kill effects regardless.

[prisma path]

Ok so I ran out of time on the scavenger hunt providence trials

I thought the scav would spawn immediately

*automatically

[agile narwhal]

Lol

I did the same thing

[prisma path]

Ok ok

What the hell do I stack for Mando no hit?

And what's the best thing to do

Do I use kin?

Because I have but lumerians and lesser wisps stack too easily

[lost ridge]

get 1 prophet cape

(stacking only increases healing so its useless)

umbrella and shield generator are probably good

ifrit's horn is probably the best yellow

iirc it should push them away

[primal valve]

One Strategy could be to use Kin, Glass, Sacrifice. Command, Tempus and Cognation then reseting for easily farmable enemy, Stack Barbed wire as white (mayby get few Hooves for speed), get Prophets Cape to get free hit every once in a while as first or second green and stack clover as green to rapidly get more items.

[old pewter]

hermits scarf is a good white item

[prisma path]

I gotta get glass? 💔

I can't erm.. skip glass?

And what's cognition?

[prisma path]

And how do I get this shield generator

[prisma path]

Understood

Is it JUST third stage

[primal valve]

Until Third stage so stage 1 and 2 needs to be no hit aswell.

[prisma path]

😭

[primal valve]

You don't have to but it helps a lot

[old pewter]

fall damage counts

[prisma path]

Alright ;W;

Dude I don't even know what 65% health looks like why couldn't it be 50%

[old pewter]

oh for the han-d one?

that one isnt too difficult

[old pewter]

1% less than 2 thirds

[primal valve]

Ahh the HAN-D challenge, that shifts the advice slightly

[old pewter]

so basically dont lose more than a third of yer health

[primal valve]

Since that allows for Shield and Barriers to cushion the treshold

[old pewter]

topaz brooch is nice for it

[shadow mural]

Command definitely helps. Get a bunch of Guardian Hearts, Monster Teeth, Prophet Capes, Hermit Scarves, and at least one Interstellar Desk Plant if you've unlocked that.

[old pewter]

you dont need to spec fully into evasion

[prisma path]

Hmmi see

I guess if I'm stacking monster teeth and guardian heart I can get the unlock too for the 7 teeth 1 heart

[old pewter]

alien head is a nice unlock

[primal valve]

However personally I went fot the "Extreme" version of ramping enemy damage done to 999% and do "no hit" with picking 1 guardian heart to get Shield as shield and health can't be reduced on same hit, so as long as you don't die you are good with it.

[prisma path]

Wait that Gave me a idea

For commando atleast

Set my health to 1 so I don't have to bother saving and quitting

(well setting damage taken to 999%)

[primal valve]

yeah that is generally what is recommended as it makes it clear when you fail the challenge most* of the time

[prisma path]

Haven't thought of that

[primal valve]

Since Fall damage can't be lethal and counts, you need to be aware of that, however you can dodge roll to invuln fall damage

[prisma path]

Ye

[old pewter]

in ror1, shield gen unlock was stay above 70% health for 25 minutes and i just afked it after teleporter lol

[prisma path]

Who for

Or is it just for every character

[old pewter]

the han-d one

[prisma path]

I see

Id just uh

Activate teleporter with Kin wisps find a rope and wait

Not that I have I just thought of it

[old pewter]

thry changed it in rorr tho ofc yea

[prisma path]

I found the enforcer stay in combat for 5 minutes so annoying I gave up

Yes it's just holding a button, but that gets annoying

[edgy latch]

mods. Get em. Banish em to the Void.

[worldly shore]

@humble prairie Free grok currency!

That's not...

<@&559786374228738069>

Good, they're gone

[zealous pilot]

DUDE i cant believe i missed out on grok currency

I'm literally going to die

[placid void]

Are the risk of rain servers like struggling right now multiplayer is not working at all😭

At least on Xbox

[lost ridge]

are "risk of rain servers" a thing

[paper sluice]

No clue
But either way multiplayer is still down on Xbox

[sudden marsh]

they're not, the game is p2p

[minor sentinel]

Oh, even on Xbox? there's been tons of disconnects on ps5 too, it's been horrible, weridly enough it's only on the ps5 verison, playing on the ps4 verision is fine

[prisma path]

Does HAN-Ds attack speed buff have a limit?

Aaaand I died oh my god he's so weird without his free healing

[violet socket]

Nope

[shell mountain]

When will risk of rain returns come to PlayStation? I have the original risk of rain but it’s kinda janky and I would like to play the updated version of it

[prisma path]

Not happening ever unless we suddenly get news it does. You can get it on switch like I did

Idk why specifically switch but yea

[shell mountain]

Dang that sucks

[prisma path]

Yea

I mainly use my switch for indie games anyway so having a ror title on it is very nice

[prisma path]

What does holding out the buzzsaw do?

(han-d)

[frozen notch]

it hurts enemies

hope this helped

[agile narwhal]

I think he means when you hold the button and just 'rev' it up

dont think it does anything special

[frozen notch]

you can do that w saw???

well blud said holding out so i assumed it was just normal saw functionality lol

i had no idea though

[agile narwhal]

I might be demented but pretty sure you can

cant try rn

[frozen notch]

i definitely dont think so

can try but bed

so basically cant try

i know you can aimstall w bandito revolver

thats like it though

[prisma path]

I did infact mean holding it out before attacking:3 but It does nothing like y'all said thanks

[frozen notch]

thats very silly

i really dont know if that behavior was there pre 1.1.0

but i also dont recall actively holding down saw

[old pewter]

i feel like it was

[agile narwhal]

it def was

and I recall wondering the same thing but nobody else seemed to have anything to say

its probably just a thing like w bandit

[boreal ermine]

wtf

why does this game not inform about this shit

[digital scaffold]

Hi

[shadow mural]

Bandit Revolver? Volcanic Viper? Gun Flame? Tyrant Rave?

[hidden tendon]

any tips for getting all achievements?

[lost ridge]

thats a pretty vague question

[hidden tendon]

i guess any good resources for tips on some of the more particuilar ones (character related/environment related)

like for the enviroment ones, do i just have to get lucky to get the right map and the right version of it?

[elder patrol]

just play the game, check unlocks once in a while

gets artifacts to help you with some of the unlocks

[fallow oxide]

Download a 100% save file

[shadow mural]

You can change it so that you can only get the original stage layouts in the settings. This helps a lot with some of the harder achievements, particularly with unlocking Huntress's alternate primary skill since you have to beat both Acrid and Direseeker to unlock it.

[lost ridge]

just dont be stupid like me and forget to re-enable them when playing the game normally :3

[half ingot]

does ror returns have cross-play?

[primal valve]

no

[half ingot]

dang alr thanks for the help

[prisma path]

Silly question

Can you cook Providence with alt special chef

[shadow mural]

You can cook Providence

[prisma path]

That's awesome

[prisma path]

And your question is

Lmao

[agile narwhal]

the question is how do we throw this run

[prisma path]

You can't it's a loader run (I've beaten the game with loader once)

[fallow oxide]

oh mb

[blazing thorn]

is there an objectively best survivor or nah

[zealous pilot]

I feel like all survivors are pretty viable in pretty much every way, but Drifter is probably the fan-chosen best character by way of her temp item mechanic and general Insane Damage Output

[blazing thorn]

aight aight

can i unlock new survivors by just playing thtough the game normally

[zealous pilot]

Yeah, you unlock characters by completing challenges/achievements in game

I think you can find all the achievements in the Logbook but i could be mistaken

[blazing thorn]

ty ty

[jagged plaza]

Is there a way to make the game smooth with more than 60hz ? Because even when i lock my fps to 60 in the amd software it's not smooth like it should, even when i switch my hz on my monitor via windows, i know it did on some other games but not this one

any helps or tries would be appreciated

because it also does micro stutters and it's pretty annoying

[short spindle]

try turning off screen shake