game-questions-returns

[topaz forge]

But I got another question, is the game going to get big updates and dlcs like ror2? Or is it too early to tell?

[dark matrix]

Very likely no, other than mod support and maybe small balance tweaks

But mods will pump some more life into the game

[fervent copper]

There are essentially two ways to do robomando judgement:

1. The normal way where you go through all the stages just like any other survivor
2. The fnuuy way where you cheat in a Captain's Brooch and spam it in an in-between section for hours to get STACKED

[runic fox]

Modding update which will probably come woth a ton of bugfixes and such probably.

As for content after that? The possibility's there, but that's all it is, a possibility, so don't hold your breath for it.

[topaz forge]

That'll be an update???

Tbh I thought the community would've done that on its own

[topaz forge]

Yeah that's understandable, tbh I forgot it was a remake

[runic fox]

Far as I'm aware, community can't update the game to have steam workshop support, sooooo...

[topaz forge]

I meant like how ror2 does it

[runic fox]

That's not quite mod support though.

[potent narwhal]

whats the easiest providence trials to beat for prestige

[dark matrix]

Drifter

Without a doubt Drifter

[proud peak]

The question is about the easiest trials to gold for prestige which takes 15 golded trials to be unlocked

Not the judgement trial

[dark matrix]

I’m so fucking stupid mb

[potent narwhal]

np

[fervent copper]

Here is the average consensus on getting gold on every trial

[potent narwhal]

Thx

[topaz haven]

Any plans on bringing mod support to RORR?

[obsidian wedge]

there are mods
but no official stuff yet

[zenith garden]

Official mod support is in the process of being made but there’s a few unofficial mods and a mod loader working already

[topaz haven]

They're still working on their own method of modding?

[zenith garden]

Yea Saturn (the solo dev) is actively working on it

[topaz haven]

How is this gonna balance the use of official modloaders and community mods?

[zenith garden]

They are talking with the current modders and were a modder for ror1 so they definitely have some knowledge about it all

[runic fox]

Gonna be steam workshop support, I believe.

[topaz forge]

CHAT, if I changed a music file in the game can I play online without any hiccups? (besides my friend not being able to hear the sick new tunes)

[obsidian wedge]

I think so

[topaz forge]

chat whats the music file name for Coalescence?

nvm

for anybody wonder its musicStage10.ogg

[vast ore]

Where do you get the current mods?

[zenith garden]

There’s immediate mod manager (being somewhat depreciated once r2modman is fixed) and r2modman (was a fork of the previous r2 version so they are in the process of fixing that)

[peak iris]

What are these 6 circles around me?

[dull laurel]

repulsion armor counter

when all 6 light up you get big damage reduction

[fervent copper]

It’s not damage reduction, when all of them light up your are invulnerable for like 6 seconds

[fervent copper]

Damn, guess I was wrong

[jade ferry]

I believe OG risk of rain said invulnerable

[potent narwhal]

is pilots areodynamic achievement in total or in a row?

[dark matrix]

In total

[potent narwhal]

is MAOO more fun on returns or 2

[modern laurel]

you can also do providence trials

[final crystal]

What does stacking classified access codes do?

[fervent copper]

More damage

[potent narwhal]

whats the fastest way to get beam drone on engineer

[zenith garden]

Either getting lucky while looping to merge 3 lasers into it or doing runs to the final stage as a beam drone has a chance to spawn

[potent narwhal]

which one is quicker

[zenith garden]

depends on your luck

[potent narwhal]

great

[elder patrol]

for consistency sake, loop and merge the drones

[potent narwhal]

i mean way i did it now(just got it now) i looped and found a beam drone

think its because of the more credits director gets if you are looking for it too

[topaz forge]

does the chance for the mordor and the sticky gernade to proc increase with more stacks?

[fervent copper]

Sticky Grenade is a no, but I am not so sure about Mortar

I believe its a no as well

you could always look in the logbook

[topaz forge]

alrighty

[zenith garden]

mortar stacks by increasing damage

[fallow oxide]

both deal more damage per stack

[topaz forge]

alr

[craggy iris]

When ror returns on console ☹️

[worn jacinth]

unconfirmed

i feel your pain

it's on switch

but not xbox or playstation

[nocturne tartan]

Mordor
Found the Tolkien fan

[crude kayak]

is the Hydraulic Press achievement possible if you have ancient scepter (UNETHICAL_REASSEMBLY instead of FORCED_REASSEMBLY)?

[fervent copper]

Yes

[crude kayak]

cool

[slate wren]

Big question!

Does this game require a above average pc?

[zenith garden]

It does not, unless you are looping heavily

[eternal prism]

Hello. I'm trying to play with a friend but no matter who is hosting, the joining player will get a time out kick or an error about being disconnected.
We can play Risk of Rain 2 just fine together so I'm wondering if that's a known issue with RoR Returns specifically, and if there's perhaps a way to fix it.

[fringe quail]

My pc is Pretty good and I have performance problems!

Without looping

[prisma arrow]

How exactly does one kill providence while backflipping on sniper?

[zenith garden]

either missiles or dot. but the best way is lost doll

[prisma arrow]

i did it by stacking as many barbed wires as possible, some hardlight afterburners and glass then backflipped through provi

[topaz forge]

can this game run on weaker hardware compared to ror2?

[deft urchin]

Remember that objective works with every phase

So at every providence encounter you have essentially 3 chances of getting it

[prisma arrow]

Yeah i beat it a few hours ago

[coral eagle]

axs

[potent narwhal]

how do you download ror1 mods manually?

[ripe dew]

is there something thats supposed to be in this room cos i dont remember if there was and i picked it up already

[fervent copper]

There is nothing there

[ripe dew]

so can i go somewhere else from here?

or activate something?

[fervent copper]

no

[placid blade]

Hey, does RoR Returns allow for device hotswapping ?

(as in, audio headset got unplugged, and now I don't hear anything when replugged)

[pliant thorn]

So, is it worth it to play ror1 at all now that rorr exists?

[dark matrix]

Yes to play Starstorm mod

Other than that I can’t really think of any other reason

[placid blade]

speaking of rorr - is it a ror 1 remastered of sorts ?

or is it a brand new game ?

(I don't like the controls in the first one)

[jade ferry]

Remastered with some extra stuff that you can pick and choose what to disable

If you liked the original, you'll most likely like returns

[fervent copper]

You can change the controls in rorr don’t worry

[fair thorn]

how u get the environmental log on the final stage?

[fervent copper]

There are 2

[fair thorn]

but the

[fervent copper]

Hole in the wall to the right

Needs jump boosters

[potent narwhal]

is there any way to save edit ror1? trying to unlock fatmando

[opal patrol]

hey is it normal that there are no online lobbys. everytime i try to find one i cant see any

[fervent copper]

Everyone does private lobbies, so you could try #lfg-returns-pc

[opal patrol]

oh. thanks

[gloomy flume]

Is return basically a direct upgrade to ror1?

[valid finch]

yes

aside from the lack of modding

but in terms of vanilla yes

[mint topaz]

just got game, got a red first stage from teleporter, what's the odds of that?

[valid finch]

not as rare as youd think

reds are more common here than in 2

[dark matrix]

50/50

It happens or it doesn’t

[main ravine]

can arti of cognation trigger item drops from sacrifice or clover

[zenith garden]

Cannot drop items from Artifact of Sacrifice, but can drop items from 56 Leaf Clover

[main ravine]

thx

[sharp tartan]

How does looping work? As in, when can I access it?

[jade inlet]

you'll find a bigger tele on stage 5 and you can choose to either loop or go to the final level/boss

[sharp tartan]

Oh, alright. Thanks!

[pure nymph]

Does Drifter's "Suffocate" require the execute for the scrap or can it just be a kill?

[fervent copper]

either one works, as if they are low enough to kill you get the execute anyway

[pure nymph]

What I mean is taht I got a crowbar and it just one shuts a lumarian regardless of their health, would it get me the bonus scrap?

[fervent copper]

it should

[pure nymph]

Alright, thanks.

[crude kayak]

does attack speed affect the V.0.2 prototype laser turret?

[tender gazelle]

doesn't make it charge faster, but it makes the laser deal more ticks of damage

[crude kayak]

Gracias

[balmy pewter]

is it possible to get softlocked on rally point delta?

[balmy pewter]

further proof that i am in fact illiterate

[valid spire]

Does the difficulty scaling with time temporarily stop when the teleporter is activated?

[fervent copper]

no

[jade ferry]

The only thing that stops the timer is the stopwatch, I think

[pine imp]

How do I get this chest? Normally there aren't walls right?

NVM had to climb down

[jade ferry]

Oh shit, there's a way to get that chest?

[pine imp]

Yeah, go right above it and climb down

[proud peak]

Hidden ropes are all around the maps

Any suspicious looking visual on the wall or the ground above it may indicate a hidden rope

Like blue flowers in the first stage

Keep an eye out for such details

[jade ferry]

Yeah, I'd managed to notice most others

This one just seemed to escape me

[winter plinth]

does artificer's special scale with atk speed?

[tender gazelle]

more attack speed makes it deal more ticks of damage but it lasts the same duration regardless iirc

another lesser known thing is that attack speed also helps artificer's m1 plenty. it makes it fire and return quicker without nerfing its damage output per chakram

[winter plinth]

damn Good to know

[compact ginkgo]

how long does temporary items last? like from drifters r and such cant find a solid answer

[winter plinth]

When youre doing the|| strange battery questline,|| if you didn't make|| your next run rainstorm or monsoon, will the quest line reset||

[proud peak]

Not necessarily
||Robomando|| only spawns if the difficulty is rainstorm or monsoon but as long as you dont open the equipment chest it will still be there in your next run

[winter plinth]

||fuck||

guess ill have to repeat it

[zenith garden]

The only danger is that the skill breaks and only does one tick before getting cancelled if your atk speed is high enough

[tender gazelle]

oh yeah i remember that bug

but your attack speed has to be REALLY high for it to happen no?

[zenith garden]

Off the top of my head it’s around 250%

[zenith garden]

Most of them are 80s, chef foods are 30s

[compact ginkgo]

alr cool thx

[winter plinth]

any tips for getting the shattering justice

I cant for the life of me not get hit when im using miner

[dark matrix]

Artifact of glass, edit the setting so you take more and deal more damage, then artifact of kin for an easy stage one enemy and grind

Also Artifact of Command to get a PCape

You’ll know if you get hit because you’ll fucking die

[mild sun]

The wording for the challenge is so weird

[winter plinth]

I dont have either yet so this will be hard, can I use the damage sliders for this particular item

[jade ferry]

Yes, damage sliders do not affect challenge progress

[winter plinth]

nice

[winter plinth]

thanks guys

[mild sun]

Will the game ever come to console? :(** **

[chrome oasis]

give nintendo a console and you should should be good!
otherwise, heavy doubts

[proud peak]

There are no plans of porting rorr to xbox or playstation sorry

[mild sun]

[cosmic mist]

for the HanD achievement like new do I have to stay at above 60% health for stage 1 2 and 3 or just 3

[proven star]

I just got the game and I found a purple bordered cube and it said to find 3 more, is this something I need to stay in the level for or do I find it over 1 run or is it over the entire existence of the game through multiple runs? I don't wanna risk missing out on smth

[violet socket]

You can do it over multiple runs

[proven star]

ok thanks, btw what is the thing I'm collecting?

I imagine it unlocks either a character or item or artifact

[violet socket]

It unlocks an Artifact if you find them all, you're collecting the scattered pieces of it

[proven star]

ahh ok thx

[proven star]

is there any way to know what stage I'm on? wanna go for the 20 stages on commando achievement

[tender gazelle]

that's a ror2 achievement, not rorr

but no there's no way aside from just counting which loop you're on

[fervent copper]

well there are no stages in between other stages, and stages cannot appear out of order so as long as you remember how many times you have looped and what stage your on you can figure it out

[muted jungle]

i remember there being a way to edit a file/codeline in the og risk of rain to play with more than 4 players, but is there a way to do so in RoRR?

assuming its at least not the same way at all since multiplayer hosting has changed drastically lol

[proven star]

on the commando his first alternate attack I thought required 20 stages explored?

[tender gazelle]

assuming you're talking about this

1. these don't have to be in the same run
2. i recommend just doing the trial instead of doing this alternate unlock method. this goes as a general rule as these alt unlock merhods are always tedious (if you're struggling a lot with a particular trial you can still use those though)

[proven star]

ahh ok thanks, that was what I was thinking of

[uneven elbow]

please does anyone have the music that plays in race to the finish

[tender gazelle]

tropic of capricorn

[uneven elbow]

thanks

[crude kayak]

lets say you are moving so fast you clip inside the stage

is there any way out or do i brute force that shit

seems like it is

[tender gazelle]

i saw a mod on thunderstore that supposedly fixes this problem. i haven't tried it myself but give it a shot in case it happens again

[crude kayak]

thanks

ill look into it

[modern laurel]

pilot wavedash?

[crude kayak]

Just running really fast with Acrid

[modern laurel]

oh

[crude kayak]

Harpoons and arcane blades

[modern laurel]

i clipped inside of a pillar once by wavedashing so fast as pilot

i had to quit the run

[crude kayak]

Same :(

I managed to clip back out but eventually I got stuck inside a wall and couldn’t build up any speed to break out

[supple radish]

does anyone know where i can find the character sprites for rorr?

[tender gazelle]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tXmojIF5-lMcOHg6gShtY59n6Iu0yMWQ

this contains all the sprites in the game

if you want character spritesheets, they're in embedded textures folder starting at number 171

[supple radish]

thank you!

[tame pier]

does anyone knows how to fix this?

[tender gazelle]

fix what exactly

[tame pier]

the tentacles not showing

[tender gazelle]

oh

i think it's like that on lower graphics settings

higher them up, the game is really not intensive you'll be fine

[tame pier]

thanks

[spare lichen]

are the devs gonna release an update of any sort in the future? At least mod support so we can get the starstorm returns or something cool like that. They haven’t said anything and they claimed they will keep us posted.

[fervent copper]

Only mod support is planned, after that nothing is coming

[runic fox]

Nothing guaranteed anyways, but presumably nothing beyond mod support.
Mod support will be incredibly significant though for the game.

I think last that was talked about by someone from hopoo here was that there's rights issues or something that need to be navigated before the update can even be done.

#risk-of-rain-returns message

There's the post mentioning it.

[vernal wren]

Drifter's a she?

[jade ferry]

Ye

[acoustic warren]

how do you deal with the overloaded enemies in melee range without getting shocked by the 20 inch shaft sized electric current?

[vernal wren]

Tank it

[acoustic warren]

weeping glass noises

[vernal wren]

[valid finch]

Iframes

Merc has iframes loader has iframes miner has iframes acrid can just spit on them and drifter

Drifter doesnt have any iframes but thats because all the enemies die before they can attack

[vernal wren]

They should port rorr to mobile

Apple Arcade go brr

[acoustic warren]

to be fair i didn't play as them just yet, i wanna get the log from some characters before moving on, i didn't even unlock the mercenary just yet, i didn't play returns for a good while, and i had a lot of stuff unlocked lol

[smoky igloo]

Is there a way to reset your highscore for a certain character? If so, how would I do it?

[low jewel]

@granite sundial Are you a mod? i needed some help w some dude in the server

[obsidian wedge]

Generally, I think DM-ing @fossil ledge is what they recommend

[granite sundial]

DM @fossil ledge with your issue and the moderation team will review it and respond to you

[latent yew]

Is risk of rain returns coming to xbox?

[fervent copper]

No plans to port it to any console

[nocturne tartan]

that's so wack. Why let Hopoo develop rorturns if they can't update it too?

[tender gazelle]

think you're misunderstanding the situation

since the release of returns, gearbox got sold to 2k which is causing some issues with the rights and therefore they can't update for the time being. that's what dee was saying

[nocturne tartan]

ohh

[runic fox]

2K are probably dealing with publishing rights relating to a lot of games right now, rorr likely ranks fairly low on that list.

Still, it should be gotten to eventually.

[twilit lodge]

Jesus christ

For both games???

Man

[fervent copper]

No just returns

[runic fox]

It might affect ror2 too, but that's a different team's problem iirc.

[regal anchor]

is rorr worth it for 15€

[fervent copper]

Yes

[woven locust]

how do we unlock sacrifice

[tender gazelle]

on magma barracks hteres 3 buttons that are behind walls

gotta shoot them all

theyre not on all of the variants i think but they stand out when they're there

[woven locust]

so, turn off new stages?

[tender gazelle]

yeah do that

and make sure you bring an ability that can pierce walls

[woven locust]

pilot

does clusterbomb work?

[runic fox]

Assuming they meant clusterfire, pretty sure it doesn't.

It has to pierce even walls, so think AOEs, imo.

[fallow oxide]

Pilot’s sec goes thru walls iirc

[boreal ermine]

it does

[stark loom]

Still wondering why there are no plans for other platforms , especially since the switch has such bad performance with most games

[boreal ermine]

switch is supposedly just the easiest platform to get the game onto

which is reasonable i think

[woven locust]

is the game moddable yet?

[mild sun]

You can but it’s unofficial so it may be a hassle and there aren’t many mods

[woven locust]

oof

[boreal ermine]

you should give it a try
it's not that hard to setup and the few mods that are there are pretty neat

not that many content mods tho

[runic fox]

Steam workshop support update's probs a while away still.

Most content mods are waiting on that I think.

[boreal ermine]

for the record if it happens or not is entirely out of the devs control at this point

it's also not just steam workshop
it will be a whole official api and tooling

[runic fox]

Yup, hence why it's probably quite a while away still.

As mentioned here. #risk-of-rain-returns message

[boreal ermine]

the vibe i got from what sarn said more recently is that it might not even happen at all

i don't wanna scrutinize their phrasing too much though so i won't, but yeah

[runic fox]

Are you sure it was them? I'm assuming you're talking about tofu rune anyways.

Most recent thing they've said, at elast that the search function can find on the entire server here, is from 3 months ago.

[boreal ermine]

yes
what they said was in the rorr modding disc

[zenith garden]

Can confirm what Kris said

[runic fox]

Well I still have hope it'll happen, might give up on that tho if it hasn't happened by end of year.

[runic fox]

Went ahead and peeked into the modding disc, and... they haven't really said anything really implying anything bad's going on in that regard? Literally just two messages, one about the rights issues and the other a general "not sure if we can even update", riiight after the rights issues one.

Not sure where that impression came from.

[boreal ermine]

maybe thats just my pessimism showing lawl

[runic fox]

Here's the messages, for context.

Reverse order since I used the search function to find 'em btw.

[runic fox]

Probably a bout of pessimism, yeah.

It wasn't meant as a 'gotcha' thing btw, more a 'wait, where'd you get that impression from?' kind of thing, if the intent seems a little unclear.

[boreal ermine]

i didn't mean those

but whatever

[zenith garden]

Here’s the ones we are talking about

[runic fox]

Ah, must be a channel I couldn't access.

[potent narwhal]

is there a way to transfer modded saves to other pcs with the same steam account?

[deft goblet]

Is this game on ps yet?

[fervent copper]

No, and there are no plans to port it

[deft goblet]

Noooooooooooo

[next linden]

what items are you supposed to look forward to on looping? Assuming you have 100% crit, 100% green atg and 100% bleed etc.?

Based on what i see on the wiki for whites its mortar and sticky bomb but i could be wrong?

[next linden]

*damage items

[zenith garden]

banner crowbar and stickys are also pretty good white damage items

[elder patrol]

Shield Generator equipment in case you run into some scary tp bosses

The overloading magma worm is always out there

[winged wren]

why does nobody play this game multiplayer?

the only time someone types in lfg returns is when they actually look for ror2 and went into the wrong channel

[potent narwhal]

how do you unlock nemesis commando (ror one)

[fervent copper]

its just a skin. Once you have unlocked merc you have to find a special prism to unlock that skin

[potent narwhal]

thanks for answering but i meant the original starstom, not returns

[valid finch]

same way you get all of the other nemesis variants

find a void portal then nem variants will start spawning after a few stages

[potent narwhal]

the thing is when i find a void portal its the one to the edicr

edict

do you mean the one with the stranger instead?

[boreal ermine]

small void portals

they will send you to a void stage where you open a few chests and do a tp event, kinda like boar beach but different

[potent narwhal]

got it thanks

[feral beacon]

Anyone know if RoRR is still planned to have post-launch content updates? I know that's something Hopoo considered, I haven't kept up on the game since a month after launch though

[tender gazelle]

Official mod support is being worked on and post launch content is possible but nothing has been confirmed about that. However both of these are on hold for the time being because the team is literally unable to update the game due to issues with the rights ever since gearbox got sold.

[feral beacon]

Oh cool

I thought they had rights sorted that Hopoo got full control over Returns, Gearbox got full control over 2 and future games?

I guess Gearbox disputed that then

[boreal ermine]

gearbox still published rorr

[tender gazelle]

yeah they published it and the issues arise from gearbox publishing just Not Existing anymore

[runic fox]

Gearbox publishing got bought, or rorr got bought off it, whichever it is again, it's rights issues that are slowing things down really hard.

[zenith garden]

Gearbox was acquired by 2K and got ror in the same purchase

[runic fox]

Yeah, that, and apparently 2K's got a looooooooooooot of rights to sort through, given that there's been no word regarding RoRR yet.

[weary birch]

Could risk of rain the original version (or returns) run on a mobile device? I've been playing a lot of deadcells on my phone lately, and I wish I could play risk of rain on my phone. I know that a mobile game is in the works, but I would still like to play risk of rain the original on my phone. Would that let be possible

[valid finch]

hostile worlds the mobile game was canceled lol

as of the original version im pretty sure there is a way to play it on mobile but no official made by the devs way

[runic fox]

Hostile worlds seemed like such a weird idea for a mobile game, just... top-down gacha game?

[weary birch]

Yeah I didn't like the concept of hostile words much. It looked too chibi for lack of a better word.

[runic fox]

Oh the looks was completely irrelevant to me, chibi would've been fine.

It was the gacha aspect thathad me scratching my head.

[zenith garden]

A lot of mobile roguelikes have some sort of gacha in them due to the mobile market being much more open to that monetization

[wooden grove]

Risk of Rain X My Singing Monsters collaboration when?

[fair thorn]

Tomorrow

[wooden grove]

🔥🔥🔥

[tender gazelle]

me hearing "tomorrow" in rorr chat again

https://tenor.com/bH9f5.gif

[keen crown]

is their a way to mod ror returns?

[boreal ermine]

yes

[keen crown]

BRO

65 MINS NO CLUE HOW TO GET THE GOLDEN CHEST

NVM I JUST GOT IT WOOOOOOOOOOO

[winged wren]

how rare are laser drones and beam drones?

[zenith garden]

Lasers aren’t super common but the beam can spawn on the final stage

[ripe dew]

what do the shadow elites do exactly

[mild sun]

They’re a combination of effects basically.
2 elite types in one + they turn invisible when they’re inactive

[ripe dew]

i see

[valid finch]

And they stack stat multipliers but i could be wrong

[modest fox]

is there gonna be an update for rorr in this year or they completely abandoned the game?

[valid finch]

Official mod support is in the works but after that nothing is planned

Likely just some balance tweaks and bug fixes but nobody knowa

[zenith garden]

7x health, 3.2x damage and 37.2x money are the big number changes

[timid gulch]

What is the difference with variants and elites?

[mild sun]

Well, I’m not sure what you mean variants. But here’s what I know:
An elite is an enemy, though with special effects and more health and damage + a different color to symbolize their elite type. In RoRR returns there are Volatile, Frenzied, Blazing, Overloading, Leeching, Blighted, and Ghost (the last two aren’t ‘normal’ elites)
Variants pertain to a stage. Each stage has 6 variants, each with their own layout and unlockables that are usually but not always shared between certain variants. The exceptions to this are the contact light which has 2 and the secret stage which has 1.

[timid gulch]

Ok thank you

[zenith garden]

The ghosts are actually called cognate (or desecrated if it’s the boss that drops the artifact)

[mild sun]

Right. I couldn’t remember.

[winged wren]

what does a beam drone even look like? i dont think ive even seen one in my 60+ hours of playing. i know they only spawn on contact light but still

[fervent copper]

It’s a big ass laser cannon

[winged wren]

how rare is it

[fervent copper]

And while they only spawn naturally on the last stage (a little on the rarer side) you can combine 3 smaller Laser Drones to get a Beam Drone. They are about the same difficulty to achieve

[winged wren]

the moment i play engineer the game decides that i get no laser drones

[potent narwhal]

how do you unlock chirr? for risk of rain one starstorm, not two

[boreal ermine]

play until you get verdant woodland and a bunch of archer bug hives are spawned in right away. destroy them all.

[orchid vector]

more specifically, you need to get to verdant woodlands while looping

[solid olive]

do we know if there will be any more patches? not content patches but balance and fixes

[orchid vector]

hopefully, a modding patch

some stuff's happening rn that they can't work on the game

[spice helm]

Is risk of rain returns on console?

[final pilot]

I don’t think so, only on switch and pc

[spice helm]

That’s what I was thibking

[final pilot]

The first risk of rain is on console tho just not the remaster

[halcyon palm]

Odd they wouldn’t port to console, seems perfect for it

[jade ferry]

Maybe there's a chance once the dust of the gearbox buyout by 2K settles

[halcyon palm]

How long might that be?

[boreal ermine]

it's not that they don't want to, it's that console porting is a complicated thing lol

[jade ferry]

No idea, I'm kind of talking out of my ass

But hey, I didn't believe they'd ever bring the ror2 dlc to consoles but we got there

[halcyon palm]

Understandable though a game like this seems practically designed to be played on a console, especially a switch

[boreal ermine]

they chose switch as an initial target for a variety of reasons, and intended to maybe port to other consoles later

[halcyon palm]

Fair enough, didn’t actually know they ported to the switch lol

[woven locust]

tomorrow?

[tender gazelle]

tomorrow

[hearty sandal]

gurp tomorrow

[winged wren]

any reason to beat robomandos judgement trial?

[boreal ermine]

to flex

[primal valve]

To flex, for challenge and for fun, there are no ingame rewards for doing so

[halcyon palm]

Don't you get a skin for them?

[tender gazelle]

nope

[halcyon palm]

d a m

[lusty cape]

Will Romania Robomando ever get love

[midnight matrix]

one can hope..

if i still had the image i would show you me completing prov trial with robomando... i lost it though. ;-;

[slate wren]

How do you gain access to judgement trials?

[boreal ermine]

beat every other trial

[valid finch]

complete every other prov trial

[boreal ermine]

doesn't have to be a gold rank, but does have to be a completion

[slate wren]

Oh ._.

Well thats fine then

[lament roost]

Anyone got any tips for the providence fight 3rd? Stage specifically

[primal valve]

Don't panic, lower his health to 0 before he reduces yours to 0.
On 6 shadow slam on top of provi is safe, jumping can avoid some hits you'd think that hits.

[valid finch]

third phase?

with the shadow clone

or 4th phase with the lasers

idk if you count gilded worms as a prov phase or not

[lament roost]

green lasers of death

the shadow clones i barely noticed existed

[tender gazelle]

try to bait the giant lasers to be at easy spots to avoid

at around 40% health providence will do both a horizontal and vertical giant laser, so you have to prepare yourself for that

[valid finch]

Always stay near a ladder

[boreal ermine]

its advisable to get the med station from the medbay if possible, and generally try to bait provi to the left so you have space to go and heal if you need to

ofc not necessary if you have a fuckton of healing, but if provi is challenging in the first place then you're probably not looping and don't have alot of healing on you

[mild sun]

Depending on what you have, the order of which rooms you unlock should change. My route for the final stage consists of:

1. Loot everything on the left side
2. If possible, get into the storage area for free. If not then use keycard.
3. Medbay if not a lot of healing, Armory if not a lot of damage.
   3 1/2. the other room I didn’t get in the last step.
4. The cabin.

[valid finch]

alternatively dont do any of them

Mama aint raise no bitch

jk id hit storage first for the guaranteed toxin then medbay then whatever else

[mild sun]

I usually go storage then armory cause more items better

[sand temple]

Is there any real reason to play the original game over Returns? I like the feel of Returns a lot more, but I'm just curious. Is the balance different, etc?

[tender gazelle]

modding

[sand temple]

that makes sense

[valid finch]

yeah no other than modding everything in returns is just kinda a step up from the original

[tender gazelle]

aside from that it's pretty much just for legacy yeah

like playing flash isaac instead of rebirth/repentance

[glacial wagon]

mainly mods and also just seeing what changed in returns as well. Im currently doing vanilla brand new save of the original game, trying to 100% it and then do the same in returns.

Im mainly playing it for completionists sake, no reason otherwise

but its not bad, but def use a controller. Keyboard is horrid. You also cannot bind mouse like in returns so you cant move and shoot.

[nocturne tartan]

steam deck best console

[nocturne tartan]

it's gonna take awhile

especially since gearbox currently has a team working on ror2 and that's their main priority for the moment

also big companies move slower

so don't expect it for christmas is all I'll say

[inner vapor]

does engineer just suck ass or do I who sucks at playing him?

[zenith garden]

Engi is quite good, just have to get used to no mobility mainly

[boreal ermine]

enable auto jump in the accessibility options, and use it to bhop when you use harpoons

[valid finch]

Harpoons have a mere 5 second cooldown and do insane damage

Effectively a 3 second cooldown because the cooldown starts while theyre firing

Lmb is also good at poking

I use bounding mines and laser turret so i have no say on the normal mines and normal turrets

[fallow oxide]

That reminds me. I gotta calc the dps for every non-primary skill

[oak geode]

how do you unlock pilot-

[tender gazelle]

get 15 monster logs

which, like ror2, are just random enemy drops

[lament roost]

I know in theory Drifter is OP AF but i suck at her so bad

[lament roost]

engi essentially triples your item effectiveness which is V good

just gotta get used to no mobility and the primary being not great

[valid finch]

Transition to being a laser turret defender

[boreal ermine]

it's true

[primal valve]

Drifter primary is arguably her most busted skill, big area, guaranteed stun and knockback

[lament roost]

her secondary shreds things too

and obvi free items is big

i guess im just bad at knowing when to back off

cause i get clapped (literally) out of nowhere sometimes

(stone golem groups)

[boreal ermine]

scrap cube my beloved (stack a few and ride them around and everything magically dies)

[lament roost]

tried scrap cube, and tried that, would just get stuck on tiny elevation changes and become mostly useless once everything was dead on that level

also the gajillion hits you get from cleanup is great for proccing leech seed and stuff

can go from 50% health to full in like 1 right click if the group is large

[primal valve]

Jumping and spamming primary clears most of the enemies that get thrown at you

Accessibility option to auto jump and fire makes for chill hold jump and primary

[boreal ermine]

guess you just prefer regular secondary then, which is fair

[lament roost]

i wanted to like scrap cube cause its funni

[boreal ermine]

i think all of drifter's kit is great and fits a variety of crackhead playstyles

[lament roost]

also buiolding towers is fun

[valid finch]

Drifters cool i just wish her special was more fun to use

Both of them

“Make sure to always use this to give game balance a middle finger and win the game”

Recycle is equally as busted

[boreal ermine]

idk i like that she (and also arguably pilot) are middle fingers to the game's design and balance

[valid finch]

Drifter is way more of a middle finger

Pilot more fair

Still pretty strong

[primal valve]

Similar to sniper alt primary drifter primary just says no

[boreal ermine]

its a pve game so there's no harm to being crackhead

[valid finch]

But no drifter or robomandos level of what the fuck

Atleast stat modifications exist

So its not too bad i guess

[primal valve]

Vertical aim in majorly horisontal limited game is busted

[boreal ermine]

pilot is just a middle finger in his own way

a secondary that pierces enemies, autoaims up/down, and goes through terrain

[lament roost]

fuck you im a plane

[boreal ermine]

that's really strong if you know how to utilise it

[primal valve]

Also wave dash, moment finding clip

[valid finch]

at minimum he has the stats to combat his strengths

[boreal ermine]

oh yeah wavedash too

[valid finch]

Low hp low armor

[boreal ermine]

that is true

[valid finch]

Its not making him low tier

But still

[boreal ermine]

i will concede that pilot is hella squishy

[valid finch]

Atleast he has something holding him back

[boreal ermine]

but when he works
he cleans house

[valid finch]

Drifter is just

[primal valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054812019439710220/1192066722711212052/Speedisfun.mp4?ex=66c720a6&is=66c5cf26&hm=6e122f9f2eed47d873d106825c5503af0be0a03a149cd4e10e3d86c5fbdeda2c&

[valid finch]

Cave enemy skull in

[lament roost]

drifter Stronk

[boreal ermine]

i think drifter being melee makes her a bit risky too

if you get dinked by a blighted enemy or something it will still hurt alot

[lament roost]

i dont think drifter is as strong in RORR as feind is in ROR2

[boreal ermine]

or an overloading zap

[lament roost]

(also me want feind in RORR)

[boreal ermine]

i've softlocked on the contact light before because of this

[lament roost]

(and drifter in ROR2)

[valid finch]

If only you had a primary that knocks enemies back

[boreal ermine]

i guess i should play some drifter monsoon to get a feel for that

[valid finch]

Good thing with blighteds is they still get cucked by knockback or items that snare them

The strongest blighted VERSUS

taser

[lament roost]

like i said my mine problem with drifter is sometimes i just get 100-0 by stone golems all clapping at the same time

[valid finch]

Her primary hitbox is big

Or just use scrap cube and theyll die before they attack

Or base secondary also works

Scrap cube gets a lot of attention but not cleanup for some reason

Maybe because cube funny ha ha

[lament roost]

yeah cube funny

but cleanup is just a blender

[valid finch]

But cleanups “rare” projectiles that arent rare at all are so fucking stupid

[lament roost]

also 4 projectiles that perice can hit multiple times and have a proc co.

like thats bonkers

[boreal ermine]

trueee

its like pilot's secondary

[lament roost]

get a single leech seed and it makes it hard to die to anything that doesnt instakill you

[valid finch]

https://medal.tv/games/risk-of-rain-returns/clips/i2IUSOwsM-omXa1jI/d1337tbh9tHm?invite=cr-MSw1dUksNDQ2NzgwNTAs

[boreal ermine]

ah yes

least crackhead drifter roll

[lament roost]

happens a lot

even with low or no items

[azure kindle]

Why does loader attack faster if you tap instead of holding

[tender gazelle]

turn on rapid fire in the settings

under accessibility options

it used to just be like that in ror1 but there's an option so that you don't have to harm your hands now

[azure kindle]

It's not annoying I'm just asking why they gave that mechanic to loader specifically

[tender gazelle]

idk

bandit and artificer are also like that

[azure kindle]

Oh

Sorry

[primal valve]

Notably, artificer rapid fire priotises constant fire rate with rapid fire making tapping still potentially faster

[tender gazelle]

unfortunately

[azure kindle]

Uhh I think I found a mistake

[tired turret]

What the heck

[azure kindle]

Decaying sample is listed as high priority/fragile

Even though it's green

[zenith garden]

Nah there’s a couple like that, it’s marked like that for lore reasons over gameplay

[azure kindle]

Oh okay sorry

[nocturne tartan]

Thank you Hopoo, very cool

[azure kindle]

Is that fucking Preston plays

[tender gazelle]

it's what's advertised dude that's hopoo

[azure kindle]

Oh okay sorry

[tender gazelle]

mr hoppo games

[azure kindle]

Is his name actually hoppo

[tender gazelle]

idk

i thibk it was a nickname

[worn sky]

he just likes to make that sounds

his name is Duncan Drummond

now it feels like Hopoo is a more likely name huh

[fluid kernel]

john hopoo

[azure kindle]

So like,,
How the fuck do I get to stage 5 in 15 minutes

[boreal ermine]

rush tp strats pretty much

[azure kindle]

Whats that

[boreal ermine]

prioritising finding the tp and doing the tp event as fast as reasonably possible

[azure kindle]

Oh okay

I've been skipping every chest, is that a bad idea

[boreal ermine]

i mean
use the time spent waiting during the tp event to loot as much as you reasonably can

[azure kindle]

Ohhhh

Thank you

[boreal ermine]

each tp event is 90 seconds, so in total there's a forced 6 minutes of wait time before you reach stage 5

so you effectively have about 10 minutes of wiggle room, right up until actually grabbing the artifact

if the timer hits 16 minutes, the pickup will disappear

[azure kindle]

I am very bad at math

I somehow got 7.5 minutes when I tried to calculate it

[boreal ermine]

you probably factored in the stage 5 tp aswell

1.5 x 4 stages = 6

[azure kindle]

Nope

OH WAIT

I did

Fuck

Sorry

[boreal ermine]

goober

[azure kindle]

:3

[boreal ermine]

:3

[azure kindle]

:3

[azure kindle]

Why does provi have a random ass run down spaceship

[valid finch]

Are you talking about the spaceship he destroys

At the beginning of the game

[azure kindle]

Huh

[valid finch]

The entire reason youre on the planet

💔

[azure kindle]

I thought that was the thing you crashland in in the start animation

[valid finch]

Theres an intro to the game

Its an animation

[azure kindle]

Yes ik

[valid finch]

so then whats the question

Thats your ship

Contact light

[azure kindle]

Sorry I thought it was a different ship

[valid finch]

No

[boreal ermine]

yeah the final level is the crash-landed cargo transport ship from the intro

this is something that this game admittedly fails to communicate as well as ror1

[azure kindle]

I thought the little crashland animation when you start in lake/woods was the shot down ship

[boreal ermine]

thats just the drop pod that was used to escape the ship when it got attacked

[azure kindle]

Oh

[fallow oxide]

It's challenging yes but not hard

[boreal ermine]

??????????????????????????????????????????

those words are synonyms, no?

[fallow oxide]

different connotation

I regularly play on deluge (mod difficulty) b/c monsoon is getting a bit easy

[tender gazelle]

can't really help you much if you're not giving any context

do you mean archaic wisps (the purple wisps but not the super big ones)? those are normally a tanky and dangerous enemy but not every enemy is like that

[tender gazelle]

maybe chef is a little slow early game since he's very focused on AoE which is the majority of the game

but even then you can still use your other skills and theyll help kill a wisp quickly

if you're not enjoying the game right now then there's no shame in increasing the damage rule

[tender gazelle]

technically is an oversight, sear is supposed to stun enemies if they're oiled

but the knockback from sear shooould be enough in most situations

haven't looked into it

https://thunderstore.io/c/risk-of-rain-returns/p/SmoothSpatula/ChefImprovements/

easy enough

it's honestly not even a balance change i'd say because it's literally mentioned in the skill description lol it's supposed to do that

but yeah the game has a bunch of bugs (although most of them are pretty minor) but right now the devs can't push any updates or patches unfortunately (due to rights issues with gearbox getting sold out)

also resulted in official modding support being temporarily on hold

don't think so but as i said most bugs are minor enough that it shouldn't be a big issue

the game is recoded from the ground up because ror1 was not very well made internally from what i know

so whether they were in the og game or not doesn't matter too much

definitely know alot of ror1 issues were fixed though lol

[old pewter]

imo this should be split into 2 mods lol

ones a good balance change and ones an actual mistake from the devs

[boreal ermine]

wait the cook items lasting very shortly is not intentional??

damn

[tender gazelle]

i think i understand why the cook items were made like they were rn

they would be really powerful since you wouldn't have to even try to keep them up (especially since the items are also just consistently good)

but how they are rn makes them too weak

[old pewter]

i meant the sear stun not working

cook items lasting longer is the good balance change

[boreal ermine]

oh

[livid garden]

spam harpoons harder 👍

[azure kindle]

The beam drone as enji thing litterally just doesn't work

[boreal ermine]

eh?

[valid finch]

are you getting a laser drone or beam drone

[azure kindle]

?

[tender gazelle]

laser drones are just the drones that spawn on the ground and shoot pew pew lasers

beam drones are Big

[azure kindle]

FUCK

[tender gazelle]

beam drones are primarily gotten from upgrading 3 laser drones at the drone combiner thing

alternatively, they can rarely spawn on the ground at the contact light

[azure kindle]

Im going to kill myself WHY ARE THESE CHALLENGES SO STUPID

[bleak imp]

A big beam drone can sometimes spawn on contact light if you would rather try for that instead of looping forever, not that it helps with the annoying rng

[sly horizon]

How viable is ||Robomando?||

Spoiling this for the funni

[boreal ermine]

very

very strong

ignoring all interactable prices besides shrines pretty much breaks the game

[sly horizon]

Other than that.

I know that’s busted.

[boreal ermine]

well, other than that
its primary is effectively just commando's primary but a bit weaker

its secondary is commando's secondary but short-range, but also stunning

[sly horizon]

So basically, overall, he’s okay?

Mostly BUSTED by the free shrines and what not?

[boreal ermine]

the shrines are the things specifically still not free lol

but yeah

[sly horizon]

A.

[boreal ermine]

you rapidly outpace the scaling and you can repair drones for free

the latter is especially huge for protection and extra dps

unless a volatile swift shows up in which case good luck lol lmao

[sly horizon]

Ooo

[azure kindle]

How much more damage would I do to an enemy with -6 or -30 armor

[zenith garden]

we dont know the exact formula for rorr but the ror2/ror1 calc is
-6 armor = 6ish% increase
-30 armor = 43ish% increase

[honest garnet]

How the hell do I open these chests

[boreal ermine]

you dont lol

they are decoration

well, except one of them

[honest garnet]

Ah okay I opened the one and thought I could open more

Wasted a keycard on one chest

[boreal ermine]

wh

but thats the storage

[honest garnet]

I didn't do a single thing in the storage aside from opening the one chest

Unless there's something I missed it was completely useless

[boreal ermine]

theres supposed to be a bunch more chests

like, regular ones

[deft urchin]

Unless you're playing with the artifact that makes item drop by monsters

As it removes all the chest spawns

[primal valve]

Yeah storage with Artifact of sacrifice is only for Toxin, it is also reachable with enough mobility via broken window or floor depending on variant

[fiery lintel]

So RoR:R is locked at 60 fps, right?

[boreal ermine]

yes

[earnest plank]

how many hermits scarfs would i need to evade 100% fo the time?

i currently have 2578 scarfs

[fallow oxide]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Hermit's_Scarf

You’ll never reach 100%

[earnest plank]

ahh

[fallow oxide]

Besides, how did you get over 2k scarves? Cheat engine?

[earnest plank]

nope

10% damage taken +200% damage output

and lots and lots fo mountain shrine.

i used every artifact except tempeset too

[molten oar]

is this game any good?

[sharp sierra]

I think it's really good! My only real issue is the lack of content, making it a bit stale after playing for a while, but it's only 15 dollars so it doesn't really matter. The new characters are very fun. The game is in 2D, so it feels a lot different from risk of rain 2, but still has that "risk of rain" charm to it. I recommend it on pc for the modding capabilities or for switch so you can play it on the go

[fallow oxide]

hell to the yes

[fervent copper]

Absolutely

[molten oar]

i got it on pc

[halcyon comet]

can anyone tell me what the beads of fealty do? i got them on stage 1 as mercenary.

[boreal ermine]

wrong channel

[somber egret]

is there an easy way to reach the right side of the contact light to unlock robomando? I don't want to replay this run only because I'm missing feathers to get there

[fervent copper]

You need some sort of jump boost. Feathers work perfectly fine, but things like Pilot’s utility and Merc’s secondary also work.

[glossy silo]

sorry to bother yall with these stupid questions im going to ask. I bought the game some time ago and ive done like 5 runs where i die on the first or on the second level. I saw the more time i spend on a level the more difficult the game is going to get and i dont really know whats best to do a normal run where i can survive for a bit. should i loot the first planet or should i rush and go to the teleport right away? also, i play on vanilla ror, not the return version.

[tender gazelle]

start the teleporter as soon as you see it and loot while it's charging

[glossy silo]

what about the boss? evade it as long as the tp charges?

[tender gazelle]

a bunch of the bosses will follow you around so you can fight them while you're going around opening chests

ig something like colossus that's stationary you could just kill immediately though

i haven't played ror1, only returns. but this basic strategy is applicable to both afaik

[glossy silo]

should i kill every enemy for xp or only looting is important?

[tender gazelle]

don't worry about xp too much, only gold matters so make sure you have enough for chests

you'll usually have to kill everything anyways for the stage to let you leave, but going away from enemies can still despawn them

[glossy silo]

ok

thank you so much for your time

[valid finch]

Either works really

What i do is loot a little bit so the loot from the teleporter is enough for the rest of the stage

Just hitting the teleporter asap doesnt give you enough money for the rest of the stage

All up to you though any option is viable

[tender gazelle]

i wasn't sure how valid full looting is in ror1 so i didn't wanna recommend that immediately

but based on what you're saying i'm guessing it works fine

[valid finch]

Yeah ive long abandoned rushing and have fully embraced full looting

Very much viable

[smoky gulch]

does this game have proc chaining the same way ror2 does?

[fallow oxide]

What’s proc chaining?

Is it when an item procs another item?

[livid garden]

it doesn't

[heavy jungle]

there are no proc coefficients and no proc chains in returns

[glossy silo]

ig its not good being 20+ minutes in and being only at the second stage

[smoky gulch]

ok thanks 👍

[somber egret]

does anyone know why the fuck wont robomando spawn in stage 4

it's the third time I do this

and the little piece of shit wont spawn

this is so annoying

[fervent copper]

He doesn’t spawn in stage 2, he spawns in stage 4

[somber egret]

yeah I meant stage 4 mb

i'm doing everything right

[fervent copper]

He is guaranteed to spawn if you have, so your messing something up, or you just haven’t seen him

[somber egret]

if I die while looking for him do I need to redo the battery thing in drizzle?

because I always redid that but i cant be bothered at all rn

[fervent copper]

Yup, cause the battery would be lost

[somber egret]

i fucking hate this

[vestal arch]

I'm like 10 months late for this
But uh has rorr been announced to release on consoles, cause if not, I'm jus gonna buy the original

[rich hollow]

guys where can i download mods for ror returns??

[boreal ermine]

see the pinned msg in #risk-of-rain-returns

[ornate pine]

anyone know what are the ideal items for chef? No idea what is proc efficiency is or anything

[zenith garden]

You’re probably meaning the ror2 version as there are no proc coefficients in returns https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/559901542787055636

[ornate pine]

oml ur so right so sorry😓😓

[topaz basalt]

do enemies stop spawning when tp is done?

[boreal ermine]

yes

[boreal ermine]

wrong channel

[ocean belfry]

What channel should I use?

[boreal ermine]

#ror2-game-questions

[ocean belfry]

thanks

[mild sun]

Is risk of rain returns going to come to Xbox

[orchid vector]

most likely no

and that "most likely" is 99% i just dont want to say it cuz im not aware of an official statement on it

[mild sun]

Yeah I guess I'll just buy risk of rain returns on my steam deck instead of waiting for it to come to Xbox

[boreal ermine]

yeah do it

game's pretty great on deck

[mild sun]

I wonder what FPS it can run

[boreal ermine]

eh?

[mild sun]

On the steam deck

[boreal ermine]

i mean
it's rorr
it's a locked 60

[mild sun]

O

Ok

[boreal ermine]

coming from ror2 be prepared for refreshingly great performance

[last acorn]

lmao

is it confirmed if this game will ever receive anything ever again

[tender gazelle]

the devs can't update the game rn so nothing is confirmed

[last acorn]

Why?

[zenith garden]

When T2 acquired gearbox and the ror ip there has been some sort of discussion between the dev and T2. So from last we heard it’s up to someone other than the dev if we get any more updates (maybe a rights issue but not confirmed)

[last acorn]

seems kinda odd since if gb/t2 is getting an earnings cut from the game

itd be in their best interest monetarily

to let them keep updating

since the game seems to be pretty well liked

[zenith garden]

Welcome to the confusion

[last acorn]

😔

[slim torrent]

Why is the peakest game of the peak not coming to console

[orchid vector]

because porting a game to consoles is hard af and there's only one programmer in the team

[boreal ermine]

they also literally do not have a fucking publisher right now

and haven't for months

so y'know there's also that

[bronze pasture]

how come i cant get dlc shrine?

[zenith garden]

Because you’re playing the wrong game

[slim torrent]

They made ror1 on console tho

[boreal ermine]

not the same thing

[slim torrent]

Wdym,the only difference is that there is more pixels and more characters

[rich hollow]

thanks!!

[edgy fern]

Who owns RoRR?

[jovial field]

2K is the rights holder now, I believe

[fervent copper]

ohohoho there is so much more

[slim torrent]

Wdym

[fervent copper]

new interactables, new items, new stage variants, new enemies, new bosses, new artifacts, new lore, new challenges, new final phase to Providence, new drones, new survivors, new alt abilities for every survivor, new color schemes for every survivor, new secrets to find, new entire freaking mini-gamemode, and it just generally looks and runs nicer

[sly horizon]

RoRR public multiplayer is dead, right?

[slow wren]

nope

People constantly log into coop looking for lobbies. After they see that there are no open lobbies they think that online is dead. Create your own lobby and wait 5 minutes, you will find 1-2 people to play.

[sly horizon]

Gotcha, thank you.

Because funnily enough, I do the same thing.

[woeful aurora]

arent available coop lobbies based on ur region?

[sly horizon]

I dunno.

[woeful aurora]

i figured it out nvm

[sly horizon]

What’s the answer?

[woeful aurora]

sorting by ping

[sly horizon]

Lol

[orchid vector]

the entire code is different lol

[boreal ermine]

yeah lmao they rewrote the whole fucking game from scratch

why do you think this game runs so well and isn't a janky mess like ror1 is

[deft snow]

Is there an eclipse mode in returns?

[jovial field]

no

[deft snow]

:(

[toxic path]

the closest equivalent to eclipse mode here are the providence trials

specifically the Judgement trials

which I argue is as hard

[fervent copper]

I would argue that their difficulty comes from different sources and it’s hard to compare them. Judgement is hard because you have to make it through 10 waves of enemies with very few items, Eclipse is hard because of arbitrary additions to the normal gameplay

[livid garden]

eclipse takes longer so it's harder

judgement honestly isn't that bad once you get the practice down, since almost everything in it is fixed

[fervent copper]

Everything is fixed. There isn’t a single thing that changes other than the shadows on the final stage

[livid garden]

technically captains brooch is random if you use it

lol

[fervent copper]

unless your ROBOMANDO, who tf is using brooch let’s be honest

[muted herald]

On a technical level, what exactly does scaling do?

[rustic portal]

Is risk of rain returns coming to xbox or PlayStation at any point

[boreal ermine]

likely not

[dawn quarry]

is returns still getting official mod support or any updates anymore?

[jovial field]

the devs want to, but due to a rights issue, the game can't currently be updated. they're basically waiting on the word to start making more updates, but for the time being they just can't

Gearbox Publishing ceased to exist, and the Risk of Rain IP rights went to 2K, whom Hopoo Games doesn't have a working relationship with. They need to establish that first before they can get more updates out the door, but afaik not much has moved on that front

[wooden osprey]

What is risk of rain returns

[valid finch]

a remake and remaster of the first risk of rain

[woeful aurora]

do people really play in public lobbies online anymore? can't seem to find any

[boreal ermine]

very few are hosting lobbies

but if you host one you will probably get someone showing up eventually

[glossy silo]

can i ask some questions about vanilla ror1? Ive had a bit a difficult time playing the game. Started 10 runs on normal and never got past the second level. Then i did an easy run and beat the game. Then i stepped up in difficulty and beat the game again and got to the endgame in the next run. Now i did like 5/6 runs and never got past the third level. Is it a skill issue or is it was only items luck?

nevertheless ive had always fun but i was curious

[molten wave]

is the game worth it? Im afraid gearbox will fuck it up like Seekers of the storm

[tender gazelle]

gearbox can't fuck it up

[boreal ermine]

not gearbox's game

there's nothing to fear

buy it. it's well worth it

[molten wave]

so hoppoo still own the rest of the ROR franchise ?

sorry im abit out of the loop as to whats been happening to ror2

[tender gazelle]

gearbox owns the ip, hopoo owns returns

[boreal ermine]

hopoo owns just this game

[molten wave]

so gearbox only owns ror2 now? is that correct?

[tender gazelle]

well not really

they own the ip which means they can make new ror games

but hopoo still owns returns specifically

[molten wave]

alr

thanks

[tender gazelle]

but yes they can't fuck it up. and the game's fun

[burnt musk]

is risk of rain returns worth buying and pllaying?

[lethal cairn]

ive ben playing it alot lately in wake of.. recent events........

its a bit sad to see that its kinda inactive and swept under the radar now, its such a beautiful game

although hard as balls

[livid garden]

risk of rain returns is fun, especially if you play the sniper character

[boreal ermine]

sniper players when they don't let anyone else play the game (they instakill every boss including providence)

[burnt musk]

i unlocked now artificer and pilot

[boreal ermine]

nice

beware that artificer is very weird and technical in this game
likely the hardest survivor to master

[short basalt]

I am personally addicted to Drifter.
More items = more better

[boreal ermine]

true drifter is goated

i love stunlocking blighted elites and beating them to death with a bag of trash

[burnt musk]

why are some of these so hard 😭

its actually crazy how hard some are

[fervent copper]

That child one is actually pretty easy to gold

[burnt musk]

which is better

[livid garden]

depends on if you want more reliable scrap generation or some mobility

[burnt musk]

ok

[fervent copper]

I go for suffocate cause it has execution for all enemies, even Prov.

[iron aurora]

I'm sorry what

You can just stuff Prov in a bag

[meager dirge]

Naughty gods get jammed in the B A G.

Why is that a thing?

[charred dawn]

Can you unlock characters on the easy difficulty?

[boreal ermine]

yes

[charred dawn]

Okay

[charred dawn]

Is there item that reduces skill cooldown

[fervent copper]

Yes

It’s red

Alien Head

[charred dawn]

Alright

[woeful aurora]

whats the equipment that resets ur skill cooldowns? giant amethyst?

[livid garden]

yup

[runic fox]

Just saw the news, what does this mean for the modding update?

[tender gazelle]

well, there isn't one

unlikely anyways

but there's still an unoffical modding api that has existed for a while, and i imagine it'll also get better as time goes on

the game is already made with modders in mind, so it's not like it's impossible for modders to do it themselves

[runic fox]

Their planning on one has been public for months, what the heck are you on about?

[tender gazelle]

they did plan on it yes

but for a couple months now theyve been telling us that they can't really update the game anymore

out of their hands

if it's resolved at some point which we have no clue about anymore then they'll likely release it, but otherwise

[runic fox]

Oh I know that, I'm just mighty peeved at people pretending plans never existed.

[tender gazelle]

i know about the plans, ive been following this for a long time now because i was pretty excited for it

but rn im just hoping for the best and for modders to be able to make a good api regardless. if the devs are able to update the game later down the line then that's cool but i can't really hope for it anymore

[runic fox]

And again, stop pretending like it was never going to happen in the first place.

[tender gazelle]

??

i KNOW it was going to happen

but rn it isn't, so there's no point to pretend like it is happening right now

[runic fox]

You really need to re-read the first bit of what you said, reads a lot like saying it would've never happened/never was a thing. If you can't see it then this is hopeless.

[tender gazelle]

ok

there isn't one anymore

there we go happy?

[deft snow]

How mods

[tender gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NgLwb8noRLvlV9keNc_GF2aVzjARvUjpND2rxFgxyfw/edit?usp=sharing

[proven star]

Am I doing something wrong here for the 5 minutes with your shield up in combat achievement? I’ve been shielding attacks for like 8 minutes now

nvm I searched it up and apparently I need to be attacking not just recieving attacks

[primal valve]

More specifically, teleporter must NOT bve completed

[maiden dove]

Gotta ask, does the game get any updates or is it just.. here to be here?

Sounds kinds dumb for me to ask that but well, as i can see from the new DLC of RoR2 i might as well come back to returns and learn a Little about it

[deft snow]

I tried to mod the game using r2modman, i can see the game select it download mods and everything but the mods do not load

game just opens without mods

[woeful aurora]

nah, if any, there might be mod support in the far future, but no content

[teal canyon]

whos the best rn

[toxic path]

did you install the modding api?

[deft snow]

Return of modding?

[toxic path]

ye

[deft snow]

yes

[toxic path]

oh

idk then

[deft snow]

It is installed in the modman

[sacred crow]

best what

[sacred crow]

the game is finished

its a remake of the og with lil additions

[crystal light]

best drifter skills?

[modest mica]

Does honor reduce the amount of enemies that spawn

[fervent copper]

Yes, cause it doesn’t increase the amount of elites that spawn, it just makes it that if the enemy is not elite it can’t spawn

[teal canyon]

my bad wrong channel

[obtuse burrow]

Hey is there a fix for the weird lobbies on PC yet?
I've had this same issue almost since the game came out where sometimes it just will always time out when trying to join someone's lobby, and when I host they cant join me either
This has been a thing almost every single time I play
but its also only SOME people
invites are also not actually giving me a button to join, but rather just this "[lobbyinvite appid="1337520" lobbyid="109775242727835582"][/lobbyinvite]"

[woeful aurora]

i use the all the default skills except scrap cube for m2

[valid finch]

Theres not really a bad choice with drifter everything she does is busted lol

[woeful aurora]

yeah scrap cube is pretty nuts

u could probably go with the alt shift and it would still be pretty good

[livid garden]

recycle is a bit lame but not bad

salvage is just generally better lol

[tender gazelle]

salvage is more brainless

but recycle is still good just requires some more effort

[charred dawn]

How do you clear a path for the survivor?

[woeful aurora]

on magma barracks

in the bottom right area of the stage there will be a special elder lemurian that spawns

[charred dawn]

Okay

[woeful aurora]

killing that does it

doesnt spawn on every stage variant tho

[charred dawn]

I've never been to the magma barracks

[charred dawn]

[woeful aurora]

its stage 4 i think

[charred dawn]

Yea I've gotten as high as stage 3 so far

[woeful aurora]

in the screen where ur selecting a character

theres a tab where u change how much damage u take and receive

might help

[charred dawn]

Oh

[charred dawn]

Will turning off new stages also help with this like it did with acrid?

[woeful aurora]

nah dont think so

[tender gazelle]

yes

[charred dawn]

Okay

[eager oasis]

so now that hopoo is disbanded and gearbox publishing no longer exists is it safe to say that the modding api won't be added?

[boreal ermine]

indeed it won't. but that's okay

we have ReturnOfModding

the unofficial modloader

it will serve us well.

[rotund saddle]

When are there going to be mods for returns

[tender gazelle]

now

[boreal ermine]

we are making them.

[rotund saddle]

[rotund saddle]

Yay

[boreal ermine]

i just published the first custom enemy mod for the game

[rotund saddle]

Will they be r2modman compatible

[boreal ermine]

yes

[rotund saddle]

Any character mods yet?

[boreal ermine]

yeh

nothing groundbreaking but we have em

i recommend you check the pin in #risk-of-rain-returns and join the modding disc if you want to stay up to date with what we're up to

i know, sucks that this is mostly all contained in a discord server for now. i hope proper public-facing docs will be made at some point

[rotund saddle]

What pin
And returns has a modding discord?

[boreal ermine]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NgLwb8noRLvlV9keNc_GF2aVzjARvUjpND2rxFgxyfw/edit?usp=sharing

this doc.

its got the invite link in it

and everything you need to get started

[rotund saddle]

I can’t take invites from docs it sends me to AppStore

[rotund saddle]

Already have r2modman no sweat I play lethal company as a clown

[rotund saddle]

I need someone to invite me directly otherwise it doesn’t work

[boreal ermine]

dm'd.