game-questions-returns

[forest nova]

We do have a console version

The only one that matters

[floral quarry]

nice one but im waiting for more the matters

the return

i want to make my friend suffer by playing it

im ready to buy it for him just to see him suffer

[grand folio]

Probably only gonna get returns on switch

[forest nova]

Just get it on Switch or Steam

[floral quarry]

sadge

[floral quarry]

yes its not like i spent 3 years working to get my xbox series s

[mild sun]

[forest nova]

Shoulda gotten the better console then

[floral quarry]

if you want to buy me one i wouldn't refuse 🤣

[forest nova]

I'm saving for a car

Sorry m80

[floral quarry]

gl bro

[mild sun]

I mean there are alot of other games until they could bring it to console

[rocky sandal]

Is there any chance that RORR might get any modding support? I hit a point where if I play loader, I can win a monsoon no command run 99% of the time and I love loader but i wish there was a mod similar to starstorm for RORR 🤡

[forest nova]

Modding support is currently in the works

[zenith garden]

Official mod support is coming

[hollow merlin]

merc's ability to parry fall damage and damage shrines is so funny

[forest nova]

[vague saddle]

has elite scaling been touched at all since launch? i stopped playing the game a little bit after it released and, coming back to it, the scaling still feels just as frustrating

[forest nova]

I think the only change to elites were Overloadings (They’re still bitches)

[vague saddle]

wow

yeah that really sucks, the scaling takes a lot of the fun out for me since i only play co-op

i can just go to drizzle and have fun but that doesn't feel very satisfying

[forest nova]

Ok

So scaling works differently in multiplayer

Its more difficult the more players are in a lobby for balance reasons
If a 4-player game has 1-player difficulty, it’d be too easy

[vague saddle]

i understand

i just believe it’s too steep even with multiple people, and other factors like item distribution and map size are at fault too

[forest nova]

I think its fine

I like a good challenge

[lethal hatch]

What do I do when my Risk of Rain file deletes 60 hours of proggress and now I have to restart :,)

[narrow cave]

Sigh and start the grind again

[lethal hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-catcry-gif-19131995

damn

[analog fog]

rogue-like moment

[silk perch]

hey all, bought the game earlier and played some hours, havent really played ror2 but i hate the mechanics where difficulty increases according to game time

do the other game modes change that mechanic?

[mild sun]

uhhhhhh

well there are 2 gamemodes

the standard which you dont like and provi trials

thats it.

[silk perch]

i saw earlier when i browsed there was like ''modern'' ''classic'' and one more mode

[mild sun]

best tip is to loot what you can on one side of the map asap, hit the tele and loot the other side while fighting the boss

[mild sun]

oh no, that just changes some mechanics from the old ror1 and this one but not the timer

provi trials, they're just unique fun trials

[silk perch]

i see i see

ye played a bit of that

appreciate it tho ty

[mild sun]

goodluck

https://tenor.com/view/yep-yep-shadow-company-call-of-duty-gif-27305054

[forest nova]

Well uuuuuuuh, that’s kinda the gist of the game, sooooooo

[mild sun]

gotta skrill through it all brother/sister

[silk perch]

yeah figured

not a fan of the timer tho

all good ty both

[forest nova]

[candid berry]

You get used to it as you play. The biggest part is just learning the stage layouts.

[mild sun]

The timer is a bit annoying. It's a big part of the game though so I don't really think about it too much, but it'd be nice if it'd stop after teleporters since there's not really a way to pause

Well, in multiplayer I mean

Oh and if you get unlucky with items or something and struggle to kill anything then you'll stay longer on a stage and the difficulty can kind of get out of hand

[mild sun]

But yeah, sorry for the late response I do want to say though always try and get some movement items, the red whip has become one of my favorite items and it really makes the game much more fun

[silk perch]

appreciate it ty

[mild sun]

You're welcome ^^

[prime shoal]

just got a heart attack
i finished a rex monsoon run and it didnt get me the achievement

turns out steam just died

[prime shoal]

lads i did it

thank you all for your help

[fallen spire]

Ez

[prime obsidian]

Wrong channel lil bro

[tough wasp]

nice i did it last week 🙂

[topaz pollen]

What are yall favorite items?

[fervent copper]

Gotta be the laser cannon thing. I can’t remember its name but it the item that disintegrates everything on screen after you use enough skills

[zenith garden]

Laser turbine go boom

[fallow oxide]

Gigantic amethyst

[mild sun]

ANCIENT SCEPTER

And also red whip, shattered mirror, and unstable watch

[harsh belfry]

How do you climb ladders in this game? I'm stuck on the tutorial level 💀

classic controls

[obsidian wedge]

I think you just go "up" while on a ladder or rope

[harsh belfry]

ok it works thanks

[midnight tulip]

so i'm trying to play with a friend through remote play, and every time we try he gets a weird window that blocks the game for him

in that window there's my steam pfp, and a button with no text

which only leads to another useless window when clicked

if he presses escape, he gets another window that has volume sliders and 2 buttons, one quits remote play and the other doesn't to do anything

is there anything we can do?

also, it worked with another friend a few months ago

[topaz pollen]

If your trying to join someone by clipboard # do you have to have it copied first?

it was grayed out for me when I tried to do it

[harsh belfry]

I had to switch cause I couldn't take it anymore lol

[topaz pollen]

I need a group opinion: is the lantern good or bad?

[fervent copper]

Mid

Very situational

[cyan bluff]

I hate it but I've never like tried to utilize it

[fervent copper]

It works great in a multiplayer game when your ally has mines

[north iron]

I found some odd ass rorr music in the files and am very confused

It’s just named “musicHitItSonA”

Funny.

[mild sun]

we defeated the providence! I feel a song coming along, hit it son!

https://tenor.com/view/dance-ayye-lit-reggaeton-turn-up-gif-17253226

[north iron]

Wait, it’s used???

What?

[mild sun]

:(

[fervent copper]

It plays when you beat the game as Robomando

[proud peak]

Oh thats what that tune is called

[shut rock]

after roughly how many hours...

[prime shoal]

zweihundert

[shut rock]

?

[proud peak]

Its 200 in german

[wild marsh]

when will modded support come out

[mild sun]

dunno

[candid berry]

Today

Genuinely no idea though

[golden mango]

How do you get the artifact of command, can’t find it

[worn sky]

NO! ROBOMANDO KILLED MY GRANDMA IN MULTIPLAYER BY STEALING ALL THE ITEMS

[fervent copper]

It’s in the Hive Cluster, top right of the stage. Use invisible ropes to reach it. (Turn off new stage variants to increase the chances of getting the right variant)

[hardy vapor]

What’s the best skill load-out for drifter?

[mild sun]

default tbh, but alot of people prefer sun

there really isn't a meta loadout, all works fine

[heavy pawn]

sun?

are you thinking abt arti

[worn sky]

no

witness the unmatched power of the sun

pulls out an orb of light from the trashbag

[golden mango]

If you get 68 (if I remember correctly) 57 leaf clovers will all elites drop items or was that removed?

[primal valve]

Yes it is possible to reach 100% item drop rate with Clovers

[golden mango]

Awesome, Thanks

[mild sun]

dude istg that said arti

im losing my mind

[heavy pawn]

LOLLLL

[mild sun]

what are black enimies with like a weird monsoon logo over them

[brittle rock]

Thats a blighted elite - super dangerous, they have a ton more hp and damage and are invisible while standing still and flickers when moving

Basically, if you see one disappear, you should probably move because it’s about to walk up behind you and snap your neck

[mild sun]

yeah they also have 2 random elite aspects assigned to em

so dont fuck around

[fallow oxide]

they are scarier than bosses

[mild sun]

does equitpment spawn on sacrfice

[mild sun]

yes

[main scaffold]

I know I'm the 30th person to ask but is the game never getting updates and it's a full release kinda thing? Just curious tbh

[mild sun]

atm yeah, only thing we know we got coming is mod support

[main scaffold]

Dang, I mean mod supports nice

But dang

[mild sun]

yeahhhh

[quick edge]

I mean it’s a pretty full, fleshed out and complete game on release, we don’t get a lot of that nowadays, was pretty nice.

[main scaffold]

I'm not complaining just a bit sad is all. More updates is always nice

[quick edge]

I suppose that’s fair, I’m okay when a game is well and done personally

[pale anvil]

Hey

[hollow sonnet]

I'm a full looter player in ror2, is full looting good in Returns?

Specifically on Monsoon difficulty

[mild sun]

yea but you wanna full loot one hald of the map, hit tele and keep looting the other side while dealing with the boss

[hollow sonnet]

Thanks, I'll give it a shot

[hollow sonnet]

Well I made it past my previous record of stage 4 with that advice, go to Contact Light, I just made a stupid mistake and stayed in a fight I shouldn't have

[fallen herald]

I hope this isn’t a dumb Question, but if I can play risk of rain 2 on a laptop, would that laptop work for risk of rain returns?

[prime obsidian]

You bet

[golden mango]

What’s the artifact that make the stage only have one type of enemy and how do you get it?

[obsidian wedge]

that's kin

[hollow sonnet]

You get it on some variants of the Dried Lake stage, to the far right of the map. If you see something that looks like a large teleporter, you should have the right variant. There’s breakable wall above it, in a spot you can jump to from some platforms nearby. After you get in, you’ll need to hit the buttons above the large teleporter in quick succession. If you do that correctly then you’ll get the Artifact of Kin.

Hope this is thorough enough to help

[golden mango]

Thanks

[hollow gazelle]

Will they ever release returns on other consoles like PlayStation and Xbox

[viral kite]

I can't remember, were there as few chests in ror 1 as there are in returns?

[fervent copper]

They are currently no plans to port it to other consoles.

[fervent copper]

As in spawn rates? I think they are the same, but maybe some of the newer chests take up more credits so less normal ones spawn.

[viral kite]

I just feel like in the first game, there were usually chests spread around the map but now sometimes it feels like an entire level ahs like 2-3 interactibles

[mild sun]

ror1 in general feels so empty in loot

[fervent copper]

Best way to find stage logs? I’m so freaking close

[deft urchin]

If you're talking about finding a specific stage, there's no method to guaratee one to appear

It's all luck

So buckle up all the patience you have and press forward

[forest nova]

Mobility

Specifically vertical mobility

[fervent copper]

Pilot time

[forest nova]

Invisible paths are also something to consider

Vines too

[fervent copper]

I’ll just look up where the ones I’m missing are

[forest nova]

You won’t find Ancient Valley 5 online btw

But I have a ss of it

Now, that’s as much as I can give

[fervent copper]

Where is that

[forest nova]

Right side of the stage

[winter cedar]

it's in a really annoying spot - this is the best diagram I can find of it

[fervent copper]

That’s so dumb

[winter cedar]

definitely the worst log out of all of them

[forest nova]

[fallen marsh]

(maybe with some artifacts too)

[proud peak]

#ror2-game-questions this channel is for rorr

Also just get lucky with 7th day

[analog plank]

Tips on ror1 huntress unlock

[proud peak]

Simply unlock huntress

[analog plank]

how

I have 3 logs

[proud peak]

Isnt huntress just a starting character?

[fervent copper]

Ror1?

[analog plank]

yeah there isn't a ror1 channel here?

[fervent copper]

There really isn’t, but since ror1 and RoRR are extremely similar you might as well ask here

Just clarify that you mean ror1 not returns

Btw the best way to get logs is:
Luck. There is no better way. Just kill more enemies

[mild sun]

get lucky with them logs

[hollow sonnet]

I don't think I'm doing awful with Monsoon, but every time I have to face a blighted elite I get my butt kicked any general advice for dealing with them? Or should I just try my best to avoid them?

[proud peak]

Theres 2 ways I personally deal with em

The first is to try to separate them from the rest to have an easier time
The other is to try to sync their attacks up with those of others

Though for singular enemies it should normally only take the basic knowledge of how to dodge their attacks

[hollow sonnet]

Got it, thanks

[viral kite]

the boar boss in boar beach doesn't count for huntress's the hunt challange, right?

[worn sky]

doesnt count yeah

[placid root]

is there a plan in the works for a returns DLC?

[thorn atlas]

Unfortunately just a pending Coming Soon ™️ mod support update

[hollow sonnet]

I think I broke the providence fight

nevermind, I just killed the gilded wurms so quickly it lagged

[shy orchid]

should I go on further

I just unlocked the character and got all his unlocks in this one game lol

idk how long those rounds are supposed to go

also is my "stategy" of stacking those flat dmg down shields good?

wait sorry

wrong channel

[edgy verge]

hey so, im very new to RORR and am wondering if there are any key signs that a teleporter might be in a certain area/direction?

[zenith garden]

there is floating dots that appear in the area but other than that nope

[candid berry]

It helps to zoom out your screen. You can see a lot more that way and it let's you see the dots more easily.

[half crescent]

Was wondering about unlocking robomando, the stage he is on, can you beat the stage before you fight him, or does it have to be before starting the teleporter?

[dusk moat]

You still need to let him kill you

So beating the tp is pointless

[half crescent]

Well was only thinking that so nothing else ends up killing me before he does

[forest nova]

He’ll steal all of your items, so if you have a good amount of damage items, he’ll surely be able to kill you before anything else does

[upper lynx]

tryin to unlock this
any tips i should be doing to make it easier?
ive been having some difficulties with it

[quick fox]

Glass + max damage dealt

[upper lynx]

uhh what

[deft urchin]

Set glass artifact + damage done slider to max and damage taken slider to max

This way you deal max damage and when you recieve damage, you just die

Just farm the basic mobs on drizzle in the first stage for a few minutes and you should be gucci (while NOT activating the teleporter)

[upper lynx]

nice thanks for the explaination

[fleet flower]

a little late, but afaik the cape works for that too

so you can get command and pick up one to make it easier

[echo flicker]

how to get out of walls

helpmee

[ashen pendant]

is there any way to refresh my game audio mid run? Had the thing where it doesn't work after disconnect headphones.

[coarse glade]

Official modding support when

[worn sky]

tomorrow

[charred forum]

march 24th

[shrewd isle]

btw, idk why I have so much trouble learning how to play this game, when I am already using ror2 controls (the ones I am most familiar with...)

[wise vapor]

I found that I had to play the whole game differently from 2, in Returns I bolt straight for the teleporter before looting and in 2 I full loot stages before going for the teleporter

[fervent copper]

Full looting is a terrible idea in this game. Since there is no teleporter zone you should hit the tele as soon as you see it and if you can’t deal with the incoming boss you can run away. Always try to loot during the tele just as much as before, but killing the boss is also a priority before the timer ends. 5 minutes per stage is also a bad idea, just go fast

[analog fog]

dont play RoRR as if it was RoR2, it's basicall what mercenary says

especially since visibility on a 2d plane means youre spending so much time looking for the teleporter you should just activate it as soon as you see it and take whatever items you can get in the time leading up to teleing away

enemies ramp up too fast for full looting to make up for

plus activating tele means your tele event items are activte for a higher percentage of your run, like arcane blades

[upper lynx]

im tryin to unlock artifact of sacrifice
from what i understand we gotta hit 3 buttons on level4 lava stage variant 1, 2, or 3

been tryin for the past few hours and just cant get the specific level

is this just bad rng or am i doin somthin wrong

does turning on/off new stage varients matter?

[zenith garden]

turning off the new varients removes all of the varient 4,5,6 so it would help

[hollow sonnet]

Quick question: Does attack speed make laser cyclone hit more often?

I'm assuming yes but just wanted to check, the wiki doesn't clarify

[silk grove]

do equipment drones work with

nvm just found out it doesnt

[mild sun]

dont think so

[uncut forge]

I remember hearing a rumor about mod support for Risk of Rain Returns on Steam, is that happening? If it's not does anyone know if anyone is making mods for the game yet, I've been wanting to get back into it but all I have left is the trials which I don't find all that fun after a while

[deft urchin]

There is a mod scene in the thunderstore website
Official mod support is still coming

[uncut forge]

Oh ok, do you know if they are going to be adding it as an option on R2ModMan? I hate modding manually and almost always mess something up

[deft urchin]

There's already an installer

Just check the website in the RoRR section

A mod manager

[uncut forge]

Do you mean the Thunder Store Mod Manager? from the screen shots it looks the same as R2ModMan, is there a difference?

[hexed gorge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/risk-of-rain-returns/p/ReturnOfModding/ImmediateModManager/

[uncut forge]

That didn't really answer my question

Do I follow the steps at the bottom of the page that link goes to but with R2MM

[hexed gorge]

No

just hit manual download
It's its own program

[uncut forge]

Is there a way to make it run inside of R2MM? I don't want to clutter my desktop any more then I need to

[hexed gorge]

Not as of now

its self-contained though

[uncut forge]

wdym

[hexed gorge]

It's a single .exe

Looks like this

[uncut forge]

Ah ok

I might give it a try this weekend then

[native mesa]

autism

[arctic shoal]

so did rorr ever get a keybind to change zoom levels

[zenith garden]

theres a mod for scroll wheel zooming

[serene beacon]

spoilers for the artifact of spite location

|| does the breakable ground tile spawn on all sky meadows stage variants? I've been looking for almost 25 minutes and I swear it doesn't exist ||

[zenith garden]

It spawns on variant 1, 2 and 3 so only half of the available stages

[serene beacon]

damn

thanks

[next dune]

before u start a game you can make it so only those varients spawn

[serene beacon]

Oh you can?

That’s good to know

Thank you

[zenith garden]

Turning off the new variants disables 4, 5 and 6 from spawning for all stages

[solid olive]

does snipers passive is affected by attack speed?(in ror2 the more attack speed you have the bigger the white area is)

[deft urchin]

It increase the speed at which the reload minigame goes

But it does not increase the white and purple area

[oak lion]

Are there any confirmations on future content updates for this game?

[deft urchin]

We only know that official mod support is coming but no timeframe yet

[woven chasm]

I don't know if this is a game question but is it confirmed that imps teleport

[fervent copper]

Yes

I mean, you literally see them teleport

[zenith garden]

if you mean in lore then also yes as they come from "the red plane" and use portals to teleport around

with the survivors being in "the white plane"

[fervent copper]

The names come from the prominent color of light in that plane

[zenith garden]

arent the names just translation errors from their language? so we dont really know what they mean?

[fervent copper]

They are, but it’s still the prominent theory

[zenith garden]

ah fair fair

[woven chasm]

so what are three special bosses you need to kill for huntress

[orchid vector]

artifact of origin helps

[woven chasm]

is the elder lemurian protecting miner applicable

[orchid vector]

yes, its called direseeker

[woven chasm]

ok so I should go to providence

[orchid vector]

if you play with origin you only need to find one out of remaining 3 yeah

i actually unlocked it without going to provi

[woven chasm]

ok great

[zenith garden]

If you don’t have origin then turning off new variants and aiming for acrid, direseeker, providence is the most consistent

[molten kernel]

hello

so risk of rain returns modded has 0 online support? ):

[mild sun]

They’re adding it some time later

We dunno when

[mild sun]

Yeah I'm a bit excited for that actually, it'll come sometime

I really do wish that they'd ever give us at least an estimation for the release of anything coming out, it's tiring seeing "soon" for everything

[woven chasm]

Is there artifact of swarms

[proud peak]

No

[woven chasm]

Ready to answer the second I have a question

[proud peak]

Lucky coincidence

[woven chasm]

Is there a artifact adjacent to swarms

[proud peak]

Well there is kin

[woven chasm]

Ok

[proud peak]

And

[fervent copper]

That’s it

[proud peak]

The artifact of soul but better (enemies spawn a stronger temporary clone of themselves when they die)

[woven chasm]

what is the best way for commando achievement for not getting touched till stage three

[fervent copper]

Change the settings to damage take 999% and damage dealt to 200%.

[candid berry]

Get good? If that's not an option go ahead and enable command, glass and max out both your damage taken and dealt. Grab a prophets cape and just don't get hit.

[fervent copper]

Turn on glass for good measure

[candid berry]

Hermits scarves also help with your dodge chance

[fervent copper]

Don’t rely on them

[candid berry]

Yeah. They are more of a safety net than anything else.

The invincible equipment is also really good.

[woven chasm]

But if I get 10 hermit scarfs I get a 100% dodge rate right

[fervent copper]

No

They don’t stack like that

You can’t even hit 100%

You’ll only get really close, but even then it’s dozens of scarves

[woven chasm]

I did it now time to sleep

[languid aurora]

Hey all! Do you guys know any way to contact Chris Christodoulou about getting permissions to use sone of his music? Thanks!

[zenith garden]

I know he hovers in the theorycrafting chat on here as astronautdown but for actually contacting him no clue

[woven chasm]

How do you get the firs special huntress skin

Because second one is judgment trial

[kindred spear]

Is there any confirmation when it comes to official Mod Support for RoRR? Because i've been waiting for it for a good while and i'm curious

[mild sun]

nop

[zenith garden]

It’s been confirmed that it is happening but that is all we know

[outer pendant]

so is multiplayer ever gonna be changed in any way?
the game scales way too hard with only 2 people and there's just never enough items to go around for anyone
it makes it really hard to play with friends and it kinda sucks that the game only feels good solo

[quick fox]

If anything I feel like 2 is the sweetspot and above feels like wrangling cats

Only thing other than "skill issue" is a multiplayer specific skill: You need to be very persistent about splitting loot equally and in an effective manner. Don't hoard move speed items, don't be picking up Backup Mag as Commando when you got a Loader, spread the healing and damage around so you two don't become lopsided, etc.

Another thing: Drones are powerful. Share those too. If you let one person stack up all the drones, even if you all have the exact same inventory, the drone hoarder's going to push well ahead of everyone.

The Risk of Rain series has always had a very messy multiplayer system that easily turns adversarial even if everyone means well IMO, but Returns I feel suffers from it the least with Force Item Share and death drones. Everyone has to be very skilled and communicative to have a good time. Item hoarding is extremely easy to do by accident and it can very easily turn into a "one person has every item while everyone else spectates" scenario. Had a run where everyone shared, but one person had every drone, and it turned to a point where only drone gal was looting because it scaled to the point where everyone else died in one hit, then their death drones died instantly so they couldn't play loot catch up.

[deft urchin]

Seems more like a foundamental design problem that forces players to play suboptimally in multiplayer

[quick fox]

Yeah, "don't be a dick" being 10x more difficult to pull off than "bleeeh I take all the items xd" is a tragedy

They made a lot of good strides in the right direction for Returns, then ran a marathon backwards with Robo-fucking-mando

[coral eagle]

I think they should just make chests client-side ( with reduction ofcourse ) or have maps that spawn players on other sides of the map

[quick fox]

The former sounds awful

[mighty atlas]

are the item rarity drop chances public, if so where can I view them

[flint palm]

was rorr development stoped ? there werent any updates in a while

[thorn atlas]

games done

(mod support update eventually ™️)

[mild sun]

No

[zenith garden]

It is a single dev (who is currently working on mod support as far as we know)

[steady carbon]

they're focusing on the ror2 dlc now

[mild sun]

Gearbox isn’t working on rorr

[steady carbon]

oh damn

[mild sun]

Yeah it’s hopoo

[stiff ether]

it’s just that the IP was bought by gearbox

[mild sun]

Ror2s IP was

[thorn crystal]

hello

[proud peak]

No ror's ip was

Hopoo just worked on this one because... idk prob mentioned why but normally gearbox handles all ror now

[mild sun]

ahhh gotcha

[rugged jay]

Sorry, I know it's an old conversation. My opinion is that it's all because the game is 2d. The players who fall behind can't go in another direction to get unclaimed chests like in ror2 so they only ever find chests that have been looted by the faster player.

There's usually only 2 directions to go in most maps, but 4 players. 2 of them will always fall behind and forced share will just teamwipe by hamstringing the players who do well so now nobody can do anything and player #4 doesn't know he can pick up items as a drone while player #2 didn't change their zoom so they can't navigate the map to find items and player #1 and #3 are struggling to survive because they can't pick up anything at all.

Being nice just leads to everyone fumbling around and dead. Greed leads to a single-player experience with spectators. Either outcome isn't that fun.

[quick fox]

This happens all the time in 3D, "the faster player" is because move speed items and obscene movement characters like Loader exist

[rugged jay]

in ror2, by the time speed can allow a player to go full greed, you've already looped and it doesn't matter much. (It's so rare for an experienced player to fall behind in ror2 that such a happening ought to be considered a massive embarrassment.)

Blood totems with psg or transendance and/or roll of pennies are the exception of course.

[cursive rivet]

mithrix cant use right?

[shell frigate]

wrong chat, but correct

[cursive rivet]

oop mb

[shell frigate]

nw m8 XD

[kindred jetty]

when will mod support for return happen

[fervent copper]

Soon™️

[arctic umbra]

Yesterday

[dark matrix]

Can the Strange Prisms only be obtained on the first loop?

[mild sun]

any loop

[dark matrix]

Weird

I went to the spot Loaders Prism is

Except the whole thing with the prism wasn’t open

[fervent copper]

You got the wrong variant of the stage then

[dark matrix]

I thought it was on the same variant with the Artifact?

Or am I the big stupid

[fervent copper]

There are multiple variants with the artifcat, but only one of those has the prism

[dark matrix]

Ohhhhh

Damn thank you

[fervent copper]

Just keep playing eventually you'll get it.

Or be like me and loop 20 times getting the mushroom place EVERY GODDAM TIME

[dark matrix]

I was looping for an hour and a half to kill a OMW as Loader and thought I should go for the prism and got very confused

[simple wolf]

I can't even seem beat moonson in rorr, is there any specifc items i should pick to beat it if i have command?

[fervent copper]

What charcter are you playing?

[simple wolf]

commando

But unlike Ror2 where I could just stack broken watches, there doesn't seem to be alot of items that can just innately buff your damage, unless it is in a indirect way which requires alot of items

[fervent copper]

Commando highly benefits from attack speed. Unlike ror2, proc chains don’t exist, but that doesn’t discredit the strength of ATGs and Ukes

The only optimal alternate ability he has is shotgun special

[simple wolf]

Mm yea, im just not entirely even sure what items to stack if im picking in general

[fervent copper]

It’s generally good to get a wide variety

[simple wolf]

hm alr

[fervent copper]

There are a few to avoid tho.

Like never pick up glove

[simple wolf]

the electrified rope?

[fervent copper]

Yeah it’s ass

[simple wolf]

yea lol

[fallow oxide]

crit items + wicked ring is an exodia for any character

[simple wolf]

gotcha ty

[dark matrix]

wait slide is bad? Other than how it doesn't work if your shooting at the start of using it, I thought it was pretty fine

also how is Bungus somehow worse in this game 😭

[fervent copper]

Slide isn't as good in this game because of the fact that this is a 2d game. You will almost always be sliding into a crowd, and being able to slightly damage a few lems as you get your ass absolutley thrashed makes roll the better choice

the iframes of roll will always outweigh the slight damage you can do during a slide

[dark matrix]

yea that makes sense

I'm sad Bungus Engineer is nowhere near as strong in this game as it is compared to ROR2 😔

[fervent copper]

bungus was never string in ror1, I was suprised when they buffed it for 2

It deserved it but I was still suprised

[dark matrix]

never played RoR1, what was the buff

is it just that you can shoot with it still being active?

cause ngl Bungus in Returns might be the worst item

[fervent copper]

It worked while shooting

[fervent copper]

no the glove exists

and so does fireman's boots

[dark matrix]

Glove worse than Bungus? Wha? I can understand on certain characters but wha?

No comment on the firemans boots tho those things suck

[fervent copper]

Glove does absolute shit damage, and only on enemies that can climb, which can be killed in a few microseconds anyway

[dark matrix]

at least it does something

[fervent copper]

bungus does more, you just gotta know when to use it

[dark matrix]

in your opinion what's the worst five items

[fervent copper]

you want them ranked from worst to best?

[dark matrix]

just in general

like the five items that make you sigh when you see them

[fervent copper]

1. (worst) Glove
2. Fireman's Boots
3. Snake Eyes
4. Spikestrip
5. Taser

The only thing keeping Time-Keeper's Secret out of this list is its usability with Engi

[dark matrix]

I can understand almost all those but don’t be dissing my boy Spikestrip like that

[fervent copper]

The fact that you need to take damage to activate them is what's putting me off.

And I may be a little biased because I played the crap out of vanilla ror1 and Spikestrip was absolute dogshit

[dark matrix]

Personally, in every video game, I hate items that require you to take damage to get value out of them EXCEPT for Spikestrip

Panic Mines and Dead Man’s Foot 👎

Spikestrip 👍

[zenith garden]

i always like the idea of "health is a resource"

[fervent copper]

Panic Mines and Dead Man's Foot are ok because Engi can use them

[dark matrix]

What can’t Engi use

[zenith garden]

bungus

[fervent copper]

I meant his turrets

[dark matrix]

Health as a resource is cool, having to purposefully get hit is bleh

[fervent copper]

items that require damage taken are golen for engi because of his turrets

[dark matrix]

True

[fervent copper]

except for spikestrip

[dark matrix]

It’s trying its best okay 😔

[fervent copper]

At the point when the turrets take damage, the spikestrip can't do anything because the turrets can't run away

Be grateful it wasn't ror1 spikestrip

[dark matrix]

How bad was it RoR1

[fervent copper]

I can't remember exactly, but I think they activated less frequently and only slightly slowed enemies

instead of rooting them

oh, and Engi turrets didn't inherit items

[abstract moat]

Could someone give me tips for Artificer? I kinda blow chunks with her

[zenith garden]

She has a higher skill floor compared to the rest of the roster and doesnt scale as well with the usual items. However her actual skills are quite strong. What skills are you running?

[worn sky]

i really need to get some animation canceling tips pinned
basically the only tool in your disposal that can reliable cancel other abilities is your primary, so get into a habit of just spamclicking it the entire time

[abstract moat]

Default, don't have anything unlocked yet

[abstract moat]

I basically do use it as much as I can, it just feels like it does so little damage compared to other characters, and I feel like I never stun either

[zenith garden]

Flamethrower is absolutely the main damage dealer for her and with its deceptive hitbox you can damage much further below where it shows. Another thing to note is throwing uncharged bombs as they stun for the same duration as a full one.

[thorn atlas]

Didnt spikestrip also crash linux users or something

[fervent copper]

idk I played on ps

[thorn atlas]

Either way stopped me from ever picking it up

[open crater]

hi anyone know how to reach this chest on the final stage?

[fallow oxide]

theres a hidden entrace to the right

[open crater]

gotcha thanks

[simple wolf]

Is there something that can track the highest difficulty you completed per survivor? In rorr2 it was an achievement to complete them on monsoon but here I don’t think it tracks that. If there was a run history log per character that would be cool tho

[heavy pawn]

they what

what do you MEAN ror1 engi's turrets didn't inherit items lmfao

[fervent copper]

They didn’t. That was added for ror2 and returns

[mild sun]

I think here is

You gotta go to logs and one of the tap should show your runs or maybe it’s in stats

[proud peak]

I mean there is a run history but it cant be sorted by character

[simple wolf]

It only shows your highest scores and stats like which survivors you picked etc

[proud peak]

No theres one for recent runs as well

[simple wolf]

Ah yes that

[proud peak]

Other than that you kinda just gotta remember who you did it with

[simple wolf]

I c

[ashen pendant]

is there unique music for dying at 4th phase providence?

cause i got skill-issued and its playing like a slow + distorted version or somth

[hexed gorge]

It always plays a slowed down version of the current track when you die

[ashen pendant]

really ive never noticed

and i lose a lot

thats kinda cool

rorr gets another golden star on the board

[gloomy bison]

Does anybody have tips for getting the logbook for Sky meadows stage 2?

[fervent copper]

Which one is that

[gloomy bison]

Really high up in the sky.

[fervent copper]

Use Command and play Pilot. Use your Green items to get Hopoo Feathers and Rusty Jetpacks, use your Red items to get Photon Jetpacks, and use your Whites for anything movement-speed related.

[gloomy bison]

Thanks

[fervent copper]

Its gonna take a few loops to either get that variant of the stage or get enough items, so be patient.

[uneven mantle]

I just used huntress with warp dart and did a trickshot

I think i had maybe 1 feather

Wait nvm i was thinking of the wrong one

[serene beacon]

does the challenge where you have to reach level 10 as miner without getting hit more than once actually let you get hit once?

I've done it a few times and its not worked

every time I've gotten hit once and only once

[zenith garden]

It includes any damage (iirc) so things like fall damage are pretty easy to miss

[serene beacon]

Ah got it

That’s probably it, I’ll be more careful

Thanks!

[serene beacon]

I got it!

Yippee

shustice acquired

[wanton pendant]

Bosses sometimes seem to just disappear, and not leave any items, is that normal?

[gloomy bison]

This is likely them clipping into the map.
Is this a common, every run occurrence or is it more rare?

[wanton pendant]

I go for looping currently, around 1h on average in latest attempts (as it is my preferred playstyle overall and I try to collect various logs and so on), so nearly every run

[toxic ermine]

Do you know if we can retrieve the assets from the game Risk of Rain Return?

[fervent copper]

Like the sprites?

[toxic ermine]

yes all assets in general map , button , enemies .

[fervent copper]

If you ask #ror2-modding they might have the link

RoRR doesn’t have mod support yet, so no rorr-modding

[primal valve]

#ror-wiki-discussion message has sprites atleast

[zenith garden]

You can also the undertale mod tool to get current sprite ripping as the wiki page one will be 99.9% complete

[summer palm]

Does the classified access codes red spawn on the contact light and work on provi? I've never seen the thing on the stage so I assume not, but figured it'd be worth asking

[fervent copper]

Yes it does

Only his first phase tho

[summer palm]

Oh! Thank you

[urban otter]

What are the best items for railgunner?

[fallow oxide]

railgunner in returns? oh hell yeah

[urban otter]

Er my bad

Idk how to do this im new

[mild sun]

and basically every other total damage item

I’d argue that seers lens are more better than regular lens on her too

[urban otter]

Ive been having trouble with add clear

[mild sun]

Supercharge could help but aoe items are gonna be doing most of the work

Just use her primary

[untold geyser]

Gasoline will clear anything

outside of that, try lining up the enemies and using the special to shoot through all of em

[urban otter]

Yeah, once i got gasoline stacked up i little bit it was much easier

I was having trash luck

Like mostly bed kits and the green mushroom thingies

[summer palm]

Does anyone have tips for completing the Assassination Contract provi trial for merc? It keeps kicking my ass

Wait there's a channel for that

[obsidian wedge]

what are the four maps that have the artifact of glass shards in them?
I'm at 3/4 and don't know where to look for the last one

oh wait

that's not glass

[primal valve]

Glass is ancient valley old variants

[obsidian wedge]

yeah, it's the thing with the buttons

[primal valve]

The fractured pieces are stage3 and 4 all New variants

[obsidian wedge]

alright, thanks

[primal valve]

So valley, sunken, magma and hive

[crude kayak]

Is it normal to just randomly teleport across half the stage as huntress?

it seems to only happen when I am shooting Pierce

[zenith garden]

I know it’s been mentioned before lemme find the link

https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1176261120013652038

[crude kayak]

oh interesting

thanks

[oak lion]

Have we gotten any confirmation for future updates?

[zenith garden]

Other than mod tools we haven’t heard anything

(And it looks like the mod tools are )

[gleaming mesa]

any idea when the mod support is supposed to be coming, its been ages

[zenith garden]

solo dev struggles

[gleaming mesa]

oh somebody be doing that shit alone?

[zenith garden]

ye sarn is the main dev for returns and others helped wit content

[gleaming mesa]

poor fella, tho i suppose u cant really expect a lot of man power to be put into returns, its almost entirely dead, but god damn the mod support couldnt come any faster

hopefully peoples interest spikes again after tho, it'd be sad if no modders show up to mod the game. but im optimistic

[zenith garden]

can confirm that starstorm returns is planned once the mod tools are up

[gleaming mesa]

thats so cool, cant wait. hopefully the support comes out this year

[urban hornet]

does artifact of origin feel really really really weak for anyone else.? the imp that spawns dies to literally like 4 bandit whips on stage 6. regular boss imps that spawn are stronger. it feels super underwhelming, even at the first ten minutes it just gets melted it seems.

[proud peak]

Yeah its pretty much just a novelty

Though if you want it to be more challenging you might like what happens when you use the watch to stop time when the timer hits a 10 minute mark

[summer palm]

What does ancient scepter do for sniper?

I just had it in a run but I couldn't tell a difference

[proud peak]

Instead of giving 100% crit it slows the targeted enemy

[summer palm]

So it removes the crit???

[proud peak]

I believe so yes

[summer palm]

That's just worse wtf

[steady carbon]

no it keeps the 100% crit

[proud peak]

Oh that makes it slightly better

[summer palm]

Oh, thank christ

[dark matrix]

Scepter goes wild sometimes

And other time I wish it was literally any other Red

[lament junco]

Does risk of rain returns have any good mods yet

Are they going to update risk or rain returns

[mild sun]

We don’t know, we know we’re getting mod support but apparently that’s all laid onto 1 person so it’ll take a bit

I’m betting returns won’t get any new content at all, it was just a small passion project for their 1st ror game

[mild sun]

wondering the same, the main reason i bought RoRR was because of workshop support, i don't mind no more content since players can make it themselves, but at this point it has been MONTHS without any news at all

[mild sun]

I mean

They kind of do that with everything

It’s like they’re allergic to reaching out to their community

It’s annoying

[steady carbon]

i love how most of the questions in this chatroom are about mod and update

[steady carbon]

maybe because ror2 still has a bigger community overall

[zenith garden]

They have been talking to the other mod makers about it so it is on the way.

[fringe quail]

I don't blame them. I can't say the balance is great in risk of rain returns

I'd just like changes to already existing stuff

[orchid vector]

they are not, saturn shows progress and receives feedback in ror1 server

[mild sun]

I didn’t even know there was a ror1 server

But also why not do that all here where there are uh 35 times as many people to see? I’m sure many others and I would never know what’s being worked on since we’re either not a part of that server, the word is hardly spread about progress, and is this even progress on RoRR and RoR2?

[woeful vector]

Does anyone know like a general release date for this?

[fervent copper]

For Risk of Rain Returns?

It’s only on PC and Switch, and there are no plans to port it

And it has been out since November

[woeful vector]

Yeah

Oh okay

[prime depot]

So I’m trying to play ROR - 1 on Xbox with my friend, but we can’t connect to each other. Is the servers down or is something up?

[feral tree]

Will rorr be on ps4 and be able to play locally?

[mild sun]

Just 4 messages above you but no

[wise ruin]

hello, i just arrived at the last biome (i think because theres epic music and my ship) i just finished doing the pillars thing but i dont know what to do next, in the objective tab it just says to "find a way to release the rescue ship"

oh wait this is not for ror2

oh sorry

[frigid gull]

hey guys, so as you know ror returns has portraits that you can unlock for every character + monsters. i was wondering if there is a way to access the original picture files since i wanted to print them and have the best possible quality.

[primal valve]

#ror-wiki-discussion message has all files

[ashen pendant]

can you parrry anything with merc parry?

[hexed gorge]

Yes
You can even parry blood shrines and fall damage

[fervent copper]

I can parry GOD

[ashen pendant]

oh

thats

hm

thank you risk of rain returns game questions returns

[austere ivy]

I set the damage taken setting to 10% and beat the final level of a run... Is that cheating? Unlocked so many achievements...

Honestly I didn't expect unlocks would have been enabled with dmg adjustments

[fervent copper]

No its not cheating its just not the most respectable way to do it.

If its a built in feature its fine, they expect you to do stuff like this.

[valid finch]

^^

cant use damage modifiers during judgment trials anyways so i dont think it really matters if you knock out other achivements by cheesing them its just not the most respectable method

[fervent copper]

If you can build up the skill to play better on the easier modes, good for you, so I suggest bumping it up to 50% next if you still need help

[zenith garden]

The funniest parry damage source imo is falling out of bounds

[sturdy sable]

Indeed just got the game today, which control scheme feels the best?

[fervent copper]

What do you play on?

[sturdy sable]

PC

[fervent copper]

I can't exactly help here, myself

[sturdy sable]

I don’t know that I wanna do the Risk of Rain 2 scheme, but I can’t decide between classic and modern

Eventually went for classic after some deliberation- the game is probably best played as it was on release

[zenith garden]

I’m a zxcv player but mouse aim is pretty strong

[warm apex]

classic plays mint yeah
if im using wasd i always want to use the mouse alongside

[formal agate]

how do I get the "Clear a Path for a Survivor" Character

[mild sun]

Disable new map variants and hope you get magma barracks as your stage 4

If you do, go to the bottom right corner of the map and follow the lava path

Beat the boss and you get em

[spare sinew]

as a fellow ZXCV player it feels much better than ror2 controls for me. You lose out on mouse aim though so it might be worth it to swap; but just start shootingthen hold left

[austere ivy]

I use a gamepad, turn on left stick aiming, and auto jump and auto fire on.

I also have paddles, so the face buttons are on paddles.

But every single control scheme is fine. I was playing RoR original with 8 keyboard keys...

Just do whatever is comfortable for you.

I like controllers whenever possible. You don't need a mouse and keyboard to play this game well, unlike RoR2 for example.

[dark matrix]

Me personally I use modern and fucking despise classic

[willow trench]

Is there a mod that allows friends to join back mid run? My GF got disconnected randomly on stage 5

[high prawn]

Is there plans to release on playstation

[fervent copper]

No

[hexed salmon]

how do you unlock stomb? i saw a vid saying you need to use 15 bounding bombs as engi but i did that and it gave me stun

[zenith garden]

stomb?

[primal valve]

Sticky bomb?

IIRC it is to detonate 15 engi mines at the same time

So stack 10 at corner of the map, defend until you have 5 charges and place them into the stack, lure enemy to the stack

Alternatively, get 5 backup mags, stack 15 mines let enemy detonate them

[knotty saddle]

whenever i open rorr, the intro cutscene is delayed, having its fps lowered and quickly desynchronizing with the music. anyone knows whats going on, or how to fix it?

[zenith garden]

And stun grenades unlock is kill a boss in 15 sec or less so that’s easy to accidentally do while attempting to stack mines

[raven void]

Hello, I completed all Providence Trials and Judgment with Gold for all characters except Robomando. Do I need to beat the Judgment Trial with Robomando or does it do nothing? Is there anything given for completing this character: Skin or Achievement?

[spark swift]

as far as i'm aware, not currently

[raven void]

I just don’t want to complete Judgment with Robomando, but I want to complete all achievements and complete Risk of Rain: Returns 100%

[fervent copper]

There is no achievment for it and it does not unlock another skin, but for some reason there is a Judgement skin for him in the files that remains unused, so it could happen at some point.

[raven void]

Thanks!

[topaz forge]

does engie play exactly like ror2 engie?

[valid finch]

Bungus is no longer an instawin option

Instead the funny ha ha boss instakiller turret is a thing

[dark matrix]

Bungus sucks now 😔 now Gigantic Amethyst Equipment is your new best friend

[fervent copper]

It always sucked in ror1

[dark matrix]

It’s good for Engi in ror2

They asked if he’s exactly like ror2 Engi

[fervent copper]

But you said it sucks now as if it was better in ror1, and we both know that ror1 and ror2 are completely different games

[dark matrix]

I meant it sucks now from the jump from ror2

[steady carbon]

time keeper's secret and scepter are also turret's best now

[runic fox]

In short, he's not.

If anything, ror2 engi resulted in a buff for rorr engi since his turrets get copies of your items now.

[orchid vector]

theres no "jump from ror2" here, its a remake of ror1

[zenith garden]

Most people only played 2 so a jump back and to the side is still a jump

[runic fox]

Technically, yes, but usually 'jump from' tends to mean forwards in some way, some improvement so to speak.

[pallid basalt]

Unpopular opinion...rorr is better than ror2

[orchid vector]

i agree but why in questions channel?

[pallid basalt]

I got lost

[lean abyss]

There's no jump from risk of rain 2. Risk of rain 1 just got some stuff backported into it.

[lean abyss]

Bungus didn't even jump really. It's exactly as barely useful as it was in ror1

[dark matrix]

I was referring to the very likely situation of people playing Risk of Rain 2 first, then trying out Risk of Rain Returns

[lean abyss]

They still moving backwards either way

Chronologically first

It's not like they overhauled the item balence to reflect ror2 in any way

Engineer has his turrets inherit items now, which is absoluty massive

[zenith garden]

It doesn’t matter about the timeline as it’s based about the order that the person plays the games

[steady carbon]

is every abilities proc coefficient still 1.0

[prisma obsidian]

What does it mean when it says the earth groans with energy

[steady carbon]

This should be in ror2

[steady carbon]

it's a stone golem family event

which means the stage can only spawn stone golem and stone titan

[prisma obsidian]

Uhh yea starting to see that

ALOT of golems

[zenith garden]

ye there are no proc coefficients in returns but some skills cant proc things at all

[dark matrix]

Thank you for understanding what I mean

[steady carbon]

it shows up everytime you enter stage 5

it means your next stage is on moon and gonna fight the final boss mithrix there

[fervent copper]

no it doesn't...

[steady carbon]

wait what

oh he deleted the message

[steady carbon]

I was answering a question about ror2 but seem like he deleted it after a while

[gloomy bison]

For some reason, I can’t use alternate utility on commando while im shooting even though I can use the base one while doing so.
Is it a console bug or just an oversight?

[zenith garden]

It’s a known bug since the last patch

[steady carbon]

yea the bug's been here for few months already

[lofty scaffold]

There's a RoR1 server?

[worn sky]

no of course not, altz just being a little jest

[calm gazelle]

Is the official mod support going to get released

[orchid vector]

yes

[pearl patio]

this would be shaped glass right

[fervent copper]

No

Damage Dealt would be at 150%

[pearl patio]

?

why

i thought shaped glass doubled incoming and outgoing damage

[fervent copper]

It only increases the damage you deal by 50%

Right?

I haven’t used it in ages

[pearl patio]

that doesnt sound right

[fervent copper]

Ok now you sound right

Continue on

[pearl patio]

is the damage taken stat right

im unsure whether it should be 200% or 50%

[fervent copper]

Damage Taken is correct

[zenith garden]

Ye damage taken is correct, it’s the multiplier on incoming damage

[ashen pendant]

hey guys this might sound dumb if it isnt true and im about 75% sure i got this information in my dream by a literal talking wall

can you still get achievements after your second loop

[zenith garden]

theres nothing that turns off getting acheives so you may loop forever and get them still

[runic fox]

Unless it's an achievement that you can 'fail', like going a certain amount of stages without items, you can lways get them in a run.

And by fail I mean ones that, by definition, you only get one try at per run.

[elder patrol]

Just turn on Glass lmao

[rich ocean]

do I get achievements if I have artifacts on?

[proud peak]

Yes

[rich ocean]

thx

[runic fox]

Ubless stated otherwise or the artifact makes it functionally impossible, nothing disables achievements.

[proud peak]

Well there arent any achievements specifically requiring you to turn off some artifacts

Theres even one thats only unlocked by finishing a run with a specific artifact combination

[runic fox]

Yup, I more meant artifacts that make achievements functionally impossible though.

[runic ridge]

anybody know a good place to look for people to play with? multiplayer servers are dead as rocks.

[runic fox]

https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1113087175035199610

If none are actively looking for people, just host something yourself.

[topaz forge]

can you do the ||robomando || quest in multiplayer and both players get that character? (spoiler cause its a secret thing)

[valid finch]

yeah

and you dont have to spoiler it anymore

[topaz forge]

whats the cap of how many soldier syringes you can have before they just stop giving you more attack speed?

mainly for robomando and comando to be more specific

[fierce edge]

do i need to actually go fast in this game or can i play it like ror2 and take my time

[zenith garden]

they will keep increasing the attack speed until you are limited by frames

so its very high

[valid finch]

you can take your time to an extent

you dont have to immediately book it to the tp like it may seem from the getgo

but scaling is still aggressive so you better be looting 24/7

taking your time and speeding through the game are both very viable and its up to you

[lofty scaffold]

I used to bumrush tp when I first started out which was a bad idea

Think of time not as smth you need to preserve as much as possible and more of a resource that needs to be spent wisely

[valid finch]

Honestly i think it just depends on map whats more viable

if you get a larger variant you should probably take your time looting

If its smaller youre probably safer booking it to the tp and looting while fighting

[lofty scaffold]

yeah I take that into consideration too

still loops back into time as a resource I think

[valid finch]

like i used to hate desolate forest because i had the “go fast always” mentality

[lofty scaffold]

bigger stages are worth spending more of it than smaller

[valid finch]

And would always reroll for dried lake

But if you just take your time looting there really isnt a problem

On the bigger stages

[lofty scaffold]

me but w/ Damp Caverns

[valid finch]

Damp caverns is still an evil map of even after adapting to changing pace depending on map

[lofty scaffold]

most of my preffered stages are the bigger ones tbh

[valid finch]

Personally just dont like the layout of damp caverns

[lofty scaffold]

I don't understand the Damp Caverns hate tbh

the old version is literally just a circle

[valid finch]

It personally just doesnt feel fun to navigate imo

Walking around in essentially what is just a rectangle until you find the tp

[fervent copper]

Out of all of the stages, it takes the longest to find the teleporter, slowing down the pace of the game dramatically

[torn ice]

it also sucks to traverse all that damn fall damage

i know it’s a skill issue but still 😞

[mild sun]

So true I hate getting it, especially since I almost never find myself getting Sky Meadow

[fervent copper]

I also love the aesthetic of Sky Meadow waaaaay more

[potent narwhal]

is solo only worth it

[dark matrix]

yeah online servers are pretty dead

solo is fun

[runic fox]

In other words, don't expect to find players to play with outside of pre-arranging it.

There's also that the game's currently in a bit of a lull as everyone waits for the modding API update to come out, along with whatever fixes and tweaks will come with it.

It is completely playable solo or with other players though, both can be great fun and there aren't really characters that suck for solo or suck for multiplayer as far as I'm aware.

[topaz forge]

Is anyone having problems with a controller hitting the same input multiple times? And if so how and did you fix it?

[bleak lion]

are you able to use alt skills in the last providence trial

[fervent copper]

You are not allowed to use any alt skills in Judgement, you are fully locked into the default kit.

[zenith garden]

(Unless you edit the file)

[dark matrix]

Yea but I feel most survivors base kits are fine

[lapis gorge]

has there been any recent updates on mod-support?

[zenith garden]

Last I saw was an item template

[lean abyss]

Dumbass here. What does mod support entail outside of not letting people connect to a game with more content than they have?

[lapis gorge]

might be another dumbass here too cause i dont understand your question

[zenith garden]

It allows much easier creation and installation of mods

[lapis gorge]

oh

yeah what he said

cause i think they specifically said they're doing workshop support and not thunderstore or anyother modding website

unless im making this shit up and im spreading misinformation

in which case im sorry in advance

[lean abyss]

So, it's putting mods on steam instead of any other community that makes mods?

Frankly, idk why that's so asked for

[lapis gorge]

i mean you're still able to make the mods

you just upload them to the steam workshop

similar to garry's mod or wallpaper engine

make your own wallpaper and you can upload it to the steam workshop

also i don't think steam workshop support is specifically the thing being asked for, it's just mod support in general

[lean abyss]

Yeah but like, not everything has to be on steam. I've found their forums are generally better than their workshop.

[lapis gorge]

it doesnt have a workshop

[zenith garden]

The current way of making mods is very intensive so lowering that barrier of entry would be very useful

[lean abyss]

I'd honestly rather stick with something I'm more familear with and has a userbase active for years. Like nexus or something.

[lapis gorge]

i mean

steamworkshop is extremely simple

[lean abyss]

So, you mean more like releasing a rorr sdk?

[lapis gorge]

it isn't like nexus where you gotta put the mods in the file

have you ever used the steam workshop before?

you just click funny looking green button and then boom

mods

[lean abyss]

Ngl, I don't play many bethesda games.

[lapis gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-cat-food-cat-food-cat-sits-gif-17043041415918945645

[lean abyss]

I played garry's mod years ago, buy that was probably implimented more than most games are if I had to guess.

[lapis gorge]

garry's mod uses the steam workshop for mods

[lean abyss]

The joke is they're only sold cause they have mods.

[zenith garden]

Kinda yea

[lapis gorge]

i mean the name of the game is garry's mod

it's a bunch of half life 2 mods made by garry

what did you expect

[lean abyss]

All for this. Idk why open source projects aren't more popular now a days tho ngl.

Like, litterally just make it open source and watch your community never die

[zenith garden]

It’s because of the effort you have to put into it and previous knowledge in the systems

[lapis gorge]

=yeah what he said

this guy is smarter than me so listen to him

[lean abyss]

Again, dumbass here.

[lapis gorge]

you opened with dumbass here so it's hard to tell if you're being serious or sarcastic

[zenith garden]

Currently it requires a good knowledge about gamemaker, Lua and risk of rain

[lapis gorge]

i mean you just mentioned bethesda when i said steam workshop

[lapis gorge]

im missing 2/3 of those requirements

[lean abyss]

I don't code good. I try to dev, but I'm slightly more art and design savy

So like, litterally do not know what goes into opening the source of a game, or how that compares to an sdk.

[lapis gorge]

my guess is that you just open the source of the games

[lean abyss]

It's still on gamemaker? I thought they said new engine.

[zenith garden]

It’s a newer version of gamemaker

Whoops wrong reply

[lapis gorge]

yeah it's still gamemaker

that one i know

rosnk of roin 2 is unity

[zenith garden]

The compiler they used also means that you can’t directly open the file

[lean abyss]

Rosnk. My new favorite word

[lapis gorge]

its usually ronsk but i spelt the misspelling wrong

ronsk of roin 2

[lean abyss]

Ror1 is gamemaker too is the thing. I figured they made returns on unity or something. If it's still gamemaker, that explains why performance tanks in near identical situations.

[lapis gorge]

how do you make a pixel game on unity

that seems harder to do than 3d games

especially with the pixel graphics

nvm just use aseprite

acesprite

whatever

idk

had it right the first time baby

[lean abyss]

Like you make hollow knight. It's actually not that much harder. And lets you use some neat tricks.

May need slightly more in depth knowlage? Idk, still working on a glorified visual novel rn. I've no expereince there.

[zenith garden]

I feel like the mod tools are going to be very nice for the mod devs seeing as they had some of the mod devs from ror1 help out with returns

(And asking current mod devs about what they want)

[mighty atlas]

So, I just got myself a god run and decided to get 5 heaven crackers bc I was curious what would happen. Turns out it just deletes your primary. Is this intended or just a bug from how to game works?

[zenith garden]

which character?

i havent heard of that one before

[worn sky]

it's how it always worked

[zenith garden]

4 would be all thats required to replace it but it depends if they mean it breaks the primary

[worn sky]

i understood it as it replaces it completely with crackers

[valid finch]

wheres the log for the 5th ancient valley

i been runnin around in circles for awhile now

[upper shale]

Is there local multiplayer for switch for this game

[proud peak]

Ye you can play together on the same console but the way the camera gets handled there is pretty bad

[upper shale]

Can't be worse than shartknight multiplayer

[valid finch]

nevermind i think i found it

thats diabolical

wtf

[mighty atlas]

engi, and it replaces the primary

[zenith garden]

Then yes, it combines the damage from the entire attack so you don’t lose damage (you do lose procs however)

[grizzled ravine]

does difficulty affect the interactables spawn

[topaz forge]

What's the Best controller to use for this game?

[topaz forge]

Uhh, I think so? Idk, everytime I play massoon I get a lot (2-4) of red items

[grizzled ravine]

same, i get a lot of chests per stage on monsoon

[topaz forge]

Sadly I die after the second stage

So don't really know enough to say

[grizzled ravine]

idk i use defender zoom for this game

but the joysticks are pretty hard to control :/

but for Returns it is pretty good

[primal valve]

Whatever controller is most comfortable for you

Personlly used Xbone, Xbox360 and PS5 controllers and all were good

Stopped using xbone as it broke after years of use, had old 360 controller as backup until bought ps5 controller on sale

[mild sun]

question

how does modding work

[mint citrus]

Do engineers beam turrets benefit from attack speed and healing?

[fervent copper]

Yes

In the few seconds they are alive for

[queen crypt]

is the divine teleporter the last one before the final boss?

atleast that's what i thought

did i accidentally loop

[queen crypt]

so i did actually loop

[zenith garden]

Ye you are correct

[runic fox]

It's almost like you should take a second to look at the options the teleporter gives you when you see it's blatantly different from default ones.

[queen crypt]

i thought like in ror2 where the second option would be to loop

[runic fox]

What's the rush that prevents you from just stopping for a second or two and use your eyes? You're not a speedrunner, so what has you going full-speed and reading nothing?

[queen crypt]

why are you aggressive

[runic fox]

That besides, ror2's teleporter isn't two-button, it's the teleporter and the targeting as two separate interactibles, there's NOTHING to carry over between the two in the first place.

[queen crypt]

bro what's wrong with you

[runic fox]

Because I am baffled by why people refuse to read.

It feels like darksydephil-equivalent levels of absolute refusal to use one's eyes.

[grim jewel]

does usb have a hard cap on how much damage it deals?

[potent narwhal]

is starstorm good enough to justify buying ror1 or should i get returns

[fervent copper]

buy returns because it is getting mod support soon, and starstorm is one of the big ones they want to add (unless im mistaken)

[potent narwhal]

k thx

[orchid vector]

i suggest still buying ror1 when its on sale for 2$ or smth

ror1 starstorm plus other mods is peak

[valid finch]

Both imo

Wait till one or both are on sale if you want

Returns is just a really good remaster of the first one and starstorm is peak

[potent narwhal]

can it run on a potato

[zenith garden]

It has diminishing returns, the first does 40% then any after to 20% of what’s remaining. We have to formula on the wiki

[runic fox]

Unless it's an ESPECIALLY weak potato, it should run just fine.

[topaz forge]

Is alot of the meta items from ror2 still viable in this game? Asking so ik if I should invest in like a lot of the same items

[zenith garden]

the general stats yea, some are slightly different in how they work due to some changes in mechanics

[still linden]

is there literally ANY criteria like stage type or time spent in the game to laser drones spawning? for example, fire drones seem to be spawning more in barracks, so maybe there is something like this for laser?

i am going to lose my fucking mind with engie's achievement, its the last one i need too

[orchid vector]

drones you get are dependant on the stage yes

ancient valley has laser drones iirc

dont remember other stages

[fervent copper]

If your really willing to gamble your run, the last stage has a chance to spawn the exact drone you need

[still linden]

its def at least ancient valley and sunken tombs

[still linden]

i know, already tried that twice

[orchid vector]

the already upgraded one?

[fervent copper]

Yes

[still linden]

don't wanna gamble anymore

[orchid vector]

oh thats cool

[still linden]

ok, at least not that i am sure i won't have to scout every stage for it

[fervent copper]

I’m pretty sure your have to be on your first loop to actually start seeing them

[still linden]

i had 2,5 hours runs on engie only getting 1 basic laser drone

so yeah i kinda got the gist of how they spawn, just wanted to make sure

in case there is any way to narrow down the rhg further

[fervent copper]

Try Sacrifice. Idk if it works the same way as ror2 but it’s worth a shot

[still linden]

i know what you mean but it didn't feel like no chests increased the drone spawn rate

so i switched it off to spice up the gameplay during attempts

(i'll get bored of chest stimuli soon and switch it on again)

[crude kayak]

does Ancient scepter actually do anything on ||robomando|| or was I just unlucky?

[fervent copper]

It has a chance to make the opened chest drop double items

[crude kayak]

can it double drones?

[fervent copper]

Don’t think so

[queen crypt]

does every survivor have a different dialogue when you finish?

[valid finch]

yes

[topaz forge]

Is the game good for offline play? Like, with no internet whatsoever

On pc btw

[valid finch]

yeah

[nocturne tartan]

Games very good in offline play

Arguably better than online unless you're playing with friends

[worn jacinth]

:despair:

[runic fox]

No current plans, not it being off the table completely.

I believe most of the focus still is on mod support, which probably involves a loooooot of under the hood tweaks and such.

[scarlet fog]

arguably better offline than with friends (my friends keep activating the teleporter)

a wait I didnt even realize I was in the returns channel

my friends dont play returns at all

[dusky spruce]

hey y'all - how does loot work in co-op? is it shared?

[dark matrix]

Nope

Me personally I live by the rule “Finders keepers, losers weepers”

(You will make enemies this way)

[dusky spruce]

thanks! what about boss drops? also not shared? do they drop more loot?

[dark matrix]

Also not shared

[dusky spruce]

i guess the devs don't want friends playing with each other then 🤣

[valid finch]

No you just gotta share

[dusky spruce]

who gets the gold? the player with the kill or is that shared?

[fervent copper]

Depends on if it’s local or not

If it’s local you share gold, if not I’m pretty sure (but not certain) that you all get the same amount of gold for kills but have to pay with your own money

[half berry]

we need a skin for loader where there is no machines and its just buff

[runic fox]

Unless there's a bug going on, anything that makes ANY player money, gives everyone else the same amount too.

Also, there are mods for item sharing, they also absolutely bork the balance ofc since they also effectively just duplicate items to everyone so things get wildly OP fast, but still.

[ashen minnow]

||is there a reason that 22 is connected to unlocking robomando? I have seen 22 show up in other games when unlocking secret characters and I’m curious||

[stuck iron]

can I somehow pause the game while choosing item?

I died like ten time to this.

in singleplayer it would be helpful

[runic fox]

Nope, you just gotta pick your moment.

[fervent copper]

It's just part of the secret codes that your given.

[dark matrix]

If you mean the little thing where it changes items you can pause the game and mash the interact button when you unpause

[stuck iron]

I always play with Artifact of Command, so I need some additional time to choose what item to pick from container.

[grim jewel]

why is enforcer's leaving text ||mutated beyond recognition||? what happened to bro?

[dark matrix]

Might be something like he hated how many creatures he had to kill? Idk maybe Enforcer is a big softie who hates using excessive force

[fervent copper]

Nah, bro just couldn’t handle the power of the excessive amount of soldier syringes he needs to survive

[topaz forge]

alright chat, how hard is it to beat Robommandos judgement trial?

[fervent copper]

depends on how you go about it

[topaz forge]

Uhhh

Going to kill the final boss of it ig

Gotta get the skin

[topaz forge]

CHAT, FORGET WHAT I JUST ASKED

Just found out there's no skin