game-questions-returns

[torpid sigil]

You can also use arms race drone

[cloud flax]

dont think Ive unlocked both of these items sadly

[tender gazelle]

i did it the drone repair kit way

drone repair kit is a default unlock iirc

[cloud flax]

uh

never encoutered it then

weird since ive found the piercing drill like a billion times

[tender gazelle]

its an active

[cloud flax]

oh

[tender gazelle]

repairs your drones and boosts their power for a short bit, also spawns its own special drone when used if it isnt already there

and you can keep recycling the drone then using the active to get the achievement

[cloud flax]

I have never seen that item

[tender gazelle]

happens

[cloud flax]

oh well

what do the stone shrines in the volcano do btw

oh they're just resprited chance shrines

[rocky sandal]

just unlocked mercenary's alt secondary and failed to parry providence to grab the ancient scepter achievement so heres my question: is it possible to parry Providence and if so, how tight is the parry window?

[fresh lichen]

P. sure you can parry anything, including fall damage

[zenith garden]

You can parry any damage instance including fall damage or chance shrines

Repulsion armor is the other one

Pretty much the same as ror2 (we can mess with a lot of the parts of it in the code for the trials)

[primal valve]

Depends on skills most can proc on everything they hit, main 2 exeptions are CHEF cleaver and Arti Chackram only being able to Proc once per throw, indicated by white damage number on first enemy hit and yellow numbers on others.

[tender gazelle]

right

[daring bone]

How do scavs work in this game, I have seen multiple with syringes

[arctic umbra]

they have items

[charred forum]

they have always-the-sameitem effects and have item-themed skills

[compact bramble]

is it possible to get and combine 3 golden drones?

[elder patrol]

Golden drone is the max tier im afraid

[mental scaffold]

can you combine 3 rock drones?

i got 3 once, but they died (got recycled) before i could get to a combiner

[elder patrol]

Yes

[paper atlas]

I killed acrid in less than 15 seconds at least 20 times and it still does not give me te achievement

What am I supposed to do

[arctic umbra]

are you playing as acrid

[maiden lantern]

You need to do so while playing as acrid

Since the character specific achievements require you to do them as that respective character, even if they are stuff any character can do

[odd wing]

OK OK, I want to know the community's opinion, but who is the best and worst class in risk of rain returns

[steady carbon]

not really a fan of han-d

maybe cuz mul-t is ranged class in risk of rain 2 so it feels so different in rorr

[inner spade]

That's an attempt to start a civil war. There is no shared opinion about survivors. People have different playstyles and their experience is not the same.
All I can do is to express my personal opinion on the matters:
Engi/Miner/Drifter are best survivors overall.
Enforcer shown the worst performance out of all survivors in most situations.

[inner spade]

alternative drons can be really strong if you can find and keep the initial stacks to snowball, however it's always a headache for every new stage

[odd wing]

Enforcer shown the worst performance out of all survivors in most situations.

[steady carbon]

yea speed drone feels strong

but healing drone also good cuz you're in melee range a lot

[inner spade]

maybe with certain builds it could work very well

For me this kills the only fun part about the unhinged robot

[odd wing]

Personal List of mine:
The best in my opinion are: Engineer, Drifter, Acrid, Mercenary and Enforcer
Worst: HAN-D, Artificer, and Pilot

(i'm gonna probably start a war now)

[primal valve]

Pilot is honestly busted, Vertical damage in mostly horizontal game is really strong.

For most part, all are at minium viable, tho artificer technically has highest skill floor making her "worst".

[odd wing]

I personally don't like him, his vertical damage is strong sure but I don't like playing as him tbh

maybe i'd put him in mixed

but as of right now, I personally dislike pilot, but also, im the same mf who plays enforcer

[steady carbon]

i personally like mercenary chef and loader

[primal valve]

And top contenders are for most part somehow balance breaking ones, Drifter, Engi are both benefitting relatively more from items than other survivors.

[steady carbon]

chef's m1 is so good in crowd control but other abilities feel a bit basic

[odd wing]

no opinion of Chef, haven't played him extensively

[primal valve]

Engi Duplicator interaction with turrets is nice, turrets gets temp stack of everything.

[elder patrol]

very nice

[torpid sigil]

I like chef, drifter, and pilot

I'd say they're all really good for different reasons

[inner spade]

How so? If I understand the process correctly it works like this:
Engi has x1 syringe and x1 Duplicator
Engi puts a turret which has both those items now
Engi picks up any item, let's say a Tough Times
Engi receives a temporary copy of Tough Times
Turret doesn't get anything

Where is the interaction between duplicator and a turret?

[cinder zenith]

I’m guessing they mean the turrets get a temporary stack of everything upon being placed

As in, they get literally doubled items (minus the duplicator) for a short period

[elder patrol]

Ye

[proud peak]

I wonder if the turrets just receive the temporary items or an exact copy of them with the remaining duration

[tender gazelle]

turret gain all their items when placed

therefore, temporary stacks of all items

[inner spade]

hmm

So you mean they first get duplicator, which activates and grants other items?

This low key sound like a programming mess

Like duplicator has lower ID compared to other items

[tender gazelle]

i think they just gain all items at the same time

just so happens that that means that they all are active immediately ig

with how the game works(?)

[inner spade]

No no, code is always executed line by line

You usually can't get several instances running

If you are right, this is gotta be a bug

[empty spindle]

Probably an easy way to test that, right?

I don't play engi so idk. But if barbed wire displays on turrets then that'd be an easy test. Get 1 barbed wire and place turret, get duplicator and place second turret and see if barbed wire is bigger?

[proud peak]

Not really unless turrets gain the blob things

[proud peak]

Actually yeah that works

[empty spindle]

Wasn't sure if barbed wire would be visible

[zenith garden]

ye can confirm that wire is bigger on the second one

[proud peak]

bruh engi at it again making use of items in the most obscure way possible

[empty spindle]

I would see that as unintended tbh

[red seal]

if i have a few bugs to report, would it be better to make them into seperate posts, or compile them all in one post in the rorr bug reports channel?

[proud peak]

Just put em here first so we can filter out what has commonly been posted already

[red seal]

pulse spear backup mag interaction

chakrams pushing enemies into you with the boxing gloves

and last one, while technically not a bug, nanobomb immediately charging up another one with a backup mag after the initial bomb is done being charged. i think it would be a nice quality of life change to have it so seperate inputs are required for each nano bomb. i mean, its nice to hold down the button and destroy everything after like 5 loops, but at that point you dont need it anyways.

[primal valve]

Personally I made seperate posts for bugs I found (tho didn't have any that were multiple on same character/session) however I'd say make single post with bullet points since they all are Arti related.
You can also do quick searches in the bug reports/feedback to see if they are posted already and you can add to the threads if they exist already, also having new thread in bugs isn't too bad since you can't expect everyone to look them up beforehand.

1. Most likely kind of oversight but at same time having multiple spears out is really nice
2. IIRC there was patchnote adressing that
3. There has been I think feedmack/suggestion thread about that.

[red seal]

thank you for the advice!

[primal valve]

I was wrong about the 2. one, rechecked notes and didn't find mention of it.

[red seal]

k im making the post now

do you think i should mention the third one too?

[primal valve]

Possibly.

[red seal]

ok

[echo flicker]

Are artifacts banned in the ||Robomando hunt||?

[proud peak]

No though the battery wont spawn with sacrifice enabled

[echo flicker]

Ok so I'm just bad at Hide-and-Seek

[proud peak]

What

[echo flicker]

Looking for Robo to give him the battery

I got to stage four, checked the entire map, and couldn't find him

[red seal]

did you arrive between 22:00 and 23:00?

[proud peak]

You know you need to activate the stage 3 teleporter at 22 minutes right

[echo flicker]

THERE'S A TIME LIMIT?!

MY FRIEND NEVER SAID THAT

Time to commit murder

[proud peak]

No its SPECIFICALLY between the 22nd and 23rd minute that you need to enter stage 4

[red seal]

murder lets gooo

[echo flicker]

That's odd

[proud peak]

Wouldnt be as much of a secret if not for that

[red seal]

activate the teleporter, beat the boss, chill til 22:00

[empty spindle]

Doesn't robomando have several convoluted steps to unlock lmao

I doubt someone would stumble across it just because the 22 min thing wasn't a thing

[proud peak]

Actually the spawn itself just requires the 22 minute into stage 4

And of course rainstorm or monsoon

[primal valve]

Yes, however the spawning condition for robo is "only" half of the unlock, you can spawn him without battery.

[empty spindle]

Pigies can't spawn with Sacrifice, right

That'd be silly

I definitely didn't just spend like 2 hours on a challenge run trying to also get the sawmerang achievement

[cloud flax]

how do you win with melee characters

I've been having trouble getting past later stages with melee characters

the screen kinda gets too cluttered in stages 4+ to be able to dodge effectively at close range

[halcyon elbow]

are you spamming jump

[cloud flax]

usually, yeah, when it gets to a point where I cant tell what's happening on the screen

[warm apex]

they all have some kind of tool in their kit to mitigate most incoming attacks
primary's knockback, healing/speed drones
frequent on-demand iframes and rapid repositioning with secondary and special
default utility trail is good for kiting and epidemic can be a very slow emergency damage tool when engaging something that WILL hit you otherwise. acrid is a tough one because you defo will have to trade damage a lot for efficiency
parry is very abusable if you're running it, eviscerate is good on demand iframes you can bunnyhop through and after image is the principle of "they can't hurt me if they're dead"
on demand iframes when you need them while still being able to get damage in, pylons can be used to great effect to clear hordes (even those damn bugs)
primary's knockback, and optimization of salvage will generally keep you having at least something to keep you ahead of the curve

aside from allat, it's just kind of figuring out how to separate enemies from other enemies by figuring out how they path to positions differently and what they can and cannot do mobility wise
as well as getting better at focusing on the absolute batshit chaos of the horde and not getting mentally overwhelmed

[cloud flax]

Thank you!
Which of miner's and loader's attacks have iframes?

[warm apex]

default secondary for both, default utility for miner

the iframes on miner's default secondary is really good because it doesnt have a cooldown while scorching is active

[woeful aurora]

don't forget scrap cube on drifter

[empty spindle]

You don't need to jump around nearly as much as people suggest, but you get a feel for the timing and how the movement works over time

Also getting a feeling for your damage output at different parts of a run, based on what items you've nabbed etc.

[warm apex]

real and real

[arctic shoal]

has a zoom keybind been implemented yet

[zenith garden]

Nope not yet

[cloud flax]

how do I get to that red item

[empty spindle]

Go in room above

There's a sneaky invisible rope to climb down through the shipping crates

[cloud flax]

there is no shipping crates in the room above

here's what's above it

[empty spindle]

The room

As in beyond the door

[cloud flax]

ah ok

[empty spindle]

Not directly above, just above as in y'know, above 😹

[gloomy bison]

Anybody know the chance for a logbook drop? Is it the same as RoR2 or is it something new?

[supple rain]

I think its random

Since getting logbooks is quite inconsistent

For some enemies you might unlock a logbook for those ones sooner than others

[astral ibex]

Harder difficulties increase the drop chance of logbooks

[mild sun]

is mando supposed to turn around while, he's sliding

slid away rn and when i shot the phase blast he just turned around

[red seal]

are you on switch? the patch that fixed that bug isnt out on switch yet

[mild sun]

ah damn

[steady carbon]

what do i need to collect to get 100% in game

i've finished all achievements but the game stat said i'm only 98%

i've heard that we dont need to collect all environmental log to get 100%

[red seal]

Do you have all monster, survivor and item logs?

[steady carbon]

havent got cremator and 2 survivor log

[strange rivet]

how the heck you get providence and gilded worm before cremator log

damn

[steady carbon]

yea

well ifrit and cremator are more rare so

[strange rivet]

do you not loop very often? they become pretty common in their stages after a bit, but if you don't loop then they are pretty much 50/50 one offs

[jovial field]

I have Providence's log and not Cremator's log because I'm pretty sure I have killed Providence more times than I've killed Cremator

I have over 130 hours in Returns and still can't figure out how to beat Cremator consistently. Which is really weird because in RoR1 it's a complete pushover for me

[mild sun]

almost everything seems as a complete pushover in returns than 1

[torpid sigil]

Attack the face

The shell is armored

[jovial field]

I'm aware of that. It just seems difficult to get into a position where I can do that easily

[hollow merlin]

idk if this is the right place to ask modding questions, but; i'm currently trying to work on a modpack, and I'm curious if anyone knows the actual file name for "Predatory Instincts"? For example: "Hopoo Feather"s file name is "sFeather" but Predatory Instincts isnt "sPred..."

if anyone knows, would be a great help :) thanks!!

[tender gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SzZ7N4eyVctU1qqhQvI1P_FqlC2iJoMEzER9LFxjjxA/edit#gid=665328269 item ids are on the naming convention section here

[hollow merlin]

Absolute lifesaver, thank you🙏

[hollow merlin]

im not too sure what to do with this. as I mentioned, searching "predatoryinstincts" doesn't find the file

nvm; found the issue. thank you for your help!!

[zenith garden]

Ah yea that section is for spawning the items in game

[hollow merlin]

thought i found the issue but i didnt lol

nvm i did im so dum

Another modding question; how would one change and item's description? if possible

[timid badger]

click to see the full thing

[hollow merlin]

appreciate you 🙏

[timid badger]

note: the change does go away when they update the game

[hollow merlin]

last modding question i have for now

is there a way to change an items stats and drop rate? if so, how would one do that?

[soft gorge]

genuine question, how do i change my control binds back to the controls i used before the recent update? i cannot find it lol since i'm not huge on the default controls
update: nvm i found it

[zenith garden]

Nothing available yet as that would be controlled by the exe which we can’t uncompile

[hollow merlin]

ah, bummer. thanks :>

[modest glacier]

help I keep clipping through the terrain when im moving too fast

[fervent copper]

Don’t move and you can’t clip through the terrain

[modest glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-miles-morales-miles-shocked-surprise-gif-13646668700392851337

[cloud flax]

how did you guys do the drowning whorls achievement

does kin + distortion work

and you just throw them in a pit instead of drowning them

[low quartz]

Is it just me, or does the "Full auto" for pilot shoot faster then Commandos primary?

[tender gazelle]

not sure but it generally does hit less because of its spread

or has less reliable range as a result

[low quartz]

eh, but firerate is firerate, and every hit can proc a ATG and such

[tender gazelle]

it wont proc if it doesnt hit lol

[low quartz]

It says in it's description it's ment for close range

[tender gazelle]

it can easily go over the heads of smaller enemies like clay men and sometimes hits the ground

[low quartz]

but your right, and I don't wanna agrue over something small like this

[warm dune]

is modding really a thing for returns yet

[jovial field]

not really, no. a framework is in development but it's not complete

[cloud flax]

how do you do the beam drone challenge for engi I've been trying for 5 hours over 2 days now and I'm gonna lose my mind

laser drones literlly never spawn

[jovial field]

just do looping runs and pray, really

[zenith garden]

Yea the two options are loops or spam runs to the ship as there’s a chance a beam drone will spawn there

[normal mulch]

I would recommend the latter but I'm not sure
It's how I did it

[cloud flax]

do you guys have any tips for unlocking artifact of origin?

so far what I`ve been doing is just get a guardian heart, a cape and as many scarfs as possible

and I`ve had by far the most success on mercenary and engineer

but at some point the bombs from spite get too numerous to negate all of them

[elder patrol]

Pilot

[cloud flax]

I got annhilitaed when I used pilot

I feel like his damage is too low for glass

and he relies too much on his utility so it`s a disaster when it gets blocked

[elder patrol]

His m2 allows some very safe poking

Mobility doesn't really matter tbh if you using the alt utility

[vivid vault]

just watched a guide for this and yeah i'd have never figured it out on my own. i don't play on drizzle lol

[zenith garden]

the first red should be daggers, with glass it just clears screens once you get the chain going

[zenith garden]

yea exactly, i found the second half on my own but the drizzle part i wouldve missed

[primal valve]

First Green clover, preferrably farm it before first teleporter boss to drastically increase your loot chance, also changing Game rules to 200%/10% Damage Done/taken, Drizzle if you are fine with that.
Example run on bandit Monsoon 100/100 intensity
https://youtu.be/kAeM4OIC7OA

[cloud flax]

I dont want to do it on drizzle and with 200% / 10% damage modifiers, but I'm gonna try out farming with clover in stage 1, I didn't think of that

Is it better to restart until the stage 1 enemy is lemurians, since their spawn rate is really high?

[primal valve]

I'd recommend that

Golems work too but if you really want "fast" start put on Cognation, tempus and Prestige artifacts aswell, then keep ~15-30 stack of clovers (going over 60 with high spawning enemy can cause drastic performance issues) And primarily stack barbed wires

Time stamp for too many clovers/prestige mountains example
https://youtu.be/Li9BLQ2FPEw?t=1154

[cloud flax]

lmao

[warm dune]

how does infusion stack

[zenith garden]

1 (plus 0.5 per stack) health for every kill

Capping at 10k health

[torpid sigil]

Shield can go beyond 10k tho

And barrier (topaz brooch and aegis and such) is a second layer, max being your max

[worthy matrix]

how do I go about unlocking arms race?

[jovial field]

the way i did it was just running Kin/Glass, waiting for a bunch of enemies to group up in one place, and slamming

[worthy matrix]

ok bet. just gotta get glass

[jovial field]

glass isn't really required it just makes it easier

if you get lemurians or something on stage 1 with kin it should still be possible

[steady scroll]

How do i turn on alternate game options?

[tender gazelle]

as in?

[steady carbon]

any tips for artificer

she still feels difficult to play even after the buff

[tame swan]

Anybody here got some tips for getting Engineer’s alt turret?

[steady scroll]

like for getting artifacts n stuff

[empty spindle]

Get a beam drone, right?

[tame swan]

Yeah that one

I assume it’s the one where I combine 3 laser drones?

So which artifacts should I enable for optimal drone grabbing?

[empty spindle]

??

Wot

Just play the game and buy drones 🤷

[steady carbon]

if you're lucky you can find beam drone in last stage

[tame swan]

Yeah I saw that once, does it require looping or?

[steady carbon]

no need

[tame swan]

So I can just speedrun?

[steady carbon]

yea

[tame swan]

Got it

[steady carbon]

but beam drone doesn't always spawn in last stage so

do need some luck

[steady carbon]

also works

but laser drones are also rare so

can do a long loop run

[north iron]

Is there a console in rorr

[empty spindle]

Only the switch

[torpid sigil]

They meant as in commands and stuff I believe

[charred forum]

there's a mod, check it out on rorr thunderstore

[narrow cave]

whats the best way to get alt primary huntress?

[empty spindle]

Loop till you found and killed Acrid and Direseeker, then go end run

If you're lucky you'll find both on first go around

[narrow cave]

k thats what i thought, i have old stages on and i already got direseeker

[empty spindle]

It's weird to me that Providence counts as a hidden event boss or whatever lol

Like reading that challenge, made me think there would be way more hidden bosses

[maiden lantern]

I remember thinking the third boss referred to the elite golem you need to beat to unlock one of the artifacts at first🫃

[red seal]

You can also reset until you get the cognation variantcdesolate forest, the cognation golem counts as a hidden event boss as well. Though doing this requires you to have new stage variants enabled, and reduces your chances of getting either direseeker or acrid, but i think its worth. Also the golem is tough so beware

[maiden lantern]

Oh wait huh he does count? Didn't know that🫃

[red seal]

Yep

[narrow cave]

i think the boar beach boss should count as well tbh

or robomando

[red seal]

To be fair, that boar isnt threatening at all. And maybe robomando counts as well, we don't know

[little plinth]

have they said anything abt a console version?

[mental scaffold]

hey im trying to mod in custom sprites for pilot via the undertale modding tool but everytime I import a sprite it doesnt show up in game

[floral merlin]

How's is risk of rain returns different than the original?

[jovial field]

more stuff, basically

controls and graphics are more refined for modern sensibilities, and it has extra content

[humble lichen]

Imp from artifact of origin is also counted as hidden boss

Just kill direseeker/acrid. After 10 minutes imp will spawn and you have to kill providence. Thats all

[arctic umbra]

But you also have to unlock origin

[humble lichen]

Its easy to unlock

So for me its better way to get alt primary for huntress

[arctic umbra]

Don't you have to beat providence with every artifact?

[mild sun]

is sniper still affected by the more atk speed they got the less damage they do with their secondary??

[humble lichen]

Not every

[arctic umbra]

Nah got fixed

[maiden lantern]

Just the all of the ror1 artifacts iirc

The ones added in returns don't count

[mild sun]

sweet

[arctic umbra]

Oh not as horrendous

[humble lichen]

Obtaining laser drone on engineer was most annoyoing task lmao

It took me 4 loops 🤡

[dusky egret]

i accidentaly got it on my first loop with engi lol

[humble lichen]

[halcyon marsh]

how different is returns from the og?

all ik is redone sprite work, and ability unlocks

[umbral wyvern]

New items and survivors, configurable QoL features (like not having to kill all enemies to proceed to the next level), the ability to move while shooting for all characters, a ton of extra unlocks

[halcyon marsh]

not having to kill all enemies is a big enough of a selling point for me

[umbral wyvern]

It's just generally a massive upgrade imo

[halcyon marsh]

sounds like it

[umbral wyvern]

Fixes everything that RoR 1 did wrong and adds on top of it

[halcyon marsh]

ill def get it when i can

[fleet flower]

yeah there's pretty much no reason to play ror1 when rorr exists

[halcyon marsh]

i had it for a while and played it like 3 times

[fleet flower]

and if you enjoyed some ror1 aspects you can turn them on

[umbral wyvern]

Be prepared for a steep learning curve though, it's not just a sidescroller RoR 2

It is still its own game with its own difficulty scaling and mechanics and such

[halcyon marsh]

ye ye i know

i played enough of the og to know that

[umbral wyvern]

Oh also 4 new music tracks

[fleet flower]

it's also much harder

like

substantially harder than ror1

[halcyon marsh]

Man

I couldn't beat monsoon ;-;

But I'm at the point where most of ror2 is p easy for me

So I wanna try somethin different

[fleet flower]

Rorr is gonna be brutal

[halcyon marsh]

Ik and I'm ready for it

[umbral wyvern]

Well, only if you want to make it brutal

None of the unlocks are tied to difficulty levels and/or accessibility options

[halcyon marsh]

I like playing on hard difficulties

Eclipse is my home

[umbral wyvern]

You can tackle the game however you like

[fleet flower]

Ancient scepter

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-jimmy-gif-23761375

[umbral wyvern]

and/or

[fleet flower]

but it is directly tied to the difficulty!!

[narrow cave]

Oh so then i didnt have to loop and die cause i wasnt paying attention that run

Welp

[humble lichen]

Y

Yes

[dusky egret]

why are his clothes like the colors you get after beating the final trial

[empty spindle]

Why is it that people say Returns is harder than 1? I've played 1 again recently cause it's one of the only games my laptop can handle streaming, and there's a bunch about 1 that made it IMO easier... Like, the QoL isn't there like moving while shooting etc. but enemies wouldn't be able to follow you as much, can't climb ropes/ladders and often just refused to fall off a tiny step to continue walking to you

[wide breach]

Swift issue

[empty spindle]

Swifts aren't that much of a difficulty bump IMO, like they're just annoying

[empty spindle]

If anything volatiles need a bit of a tweak... sometimes they fire off 1 rocket their whole life and sometimes they'll shoot off a volley upon spawning lmao

[supple mist]

Is this true? I thought the number of items dropped only depends on how many bosses spawned

[empty spindle]

Copied and pasted from RoR2, looks like

[supple mist]

Perhaps

Elite bosses still give only 1 item, so I don't think mountain shrines have as much value as ror2

[supple mist]

Overloading is still harder to deal with than volatile in most cases, I feel like the overloading effect in ror2 is more fair but this is a ror1 remake, no way they're changing this

[empty spindle]

Volatiles can randomly decide they're going to shoot out a volley that instantly tracks and hits you

Overloading enemies just zap

[supple mist]

Yeah but missiles still have a trajectory. If you're playing a melee character and you see an overloading lynx totem no way you're getting out of that

[empty spindle]

The have a trajectory that can be 1mm away from where the get fired, yeah

Elite Lynx Totems are another thing entirely. I think there's only Leeching that isn't problematic in the game 😹 I mean, the archers in particular are dangerous af even when it's just leeching

[supple mist]

I thought those missles always travel upwards for a bit before homing on to you, but maybe I'm wrong

Maybe they can change them to fire based on fixed time intervals

[empty spindle]

Yeah sometimes Volatiles are very predictable and easy to dodge, sometimes they will just instantly pummel you

[mild sun]

is the ''collect 300 items as pilot'' across all runs?

[red seal]

Yep

But completing the providence trial for it (if you have it unlocked) is going to be much quicker

[mental scaffold]

hey can you fire upwards while wall clinging as pilot?

theres sprites in the data file for it, but ive never done it in game

[torpid sigil]

Trying, dunno if it's possible

@mental scaffold

Only aims downward it seems

[hollow merlin]

I find it hilarious according to steam achievements, people found it easier to beat the game with all artifacts then beating artificers judgement trial

[red seal]

Well to be fair, there aren't difficulty options in judgement

[hollow merlin]

Also put that in wrong channel, meant to put it in #risk-of-rain-returns

[mental scaffold]

weird, theres also one for firing up and down w/ the primary red laser

[empty spindle]

There's an achievement for that? 🤔

[hollow merlin]

Achievement for basically everything

[empty spindle]

But yeah. Some of the achievement stats are pretty telling for the playerbase 😹

I'm missing 6 achievements and most of them are artifacts I haven't picked up

[hollow merlin]

Me when I have to beat the game with all artifacts (10% health, bombs flying from enemies, all elites😀

Me when I have to do artificers judgement trial😐

[empty spindle]

Some of the achievements took me several hours of attempts to get it, then I see that like 3 or 4 times more people have that achievement than any of the Judgement or the gold rank 15 trials one lol

Can't give yourself damage buff and damage "resist" in trials

[hollow merlin]

I still haven’t beat the game on monsoon with Merc. Ik I could jack up damage, but for achievements like that I wanna do it normally

[mild sun]

does holding onto ropes count as touching the ground for the pilot's aerial support unlock?

[red seal]

Nope

[mild sun]

alright awesome

[hollow merlin]

could just do what i did

200% damage 10 lemurians

[mental scaffold]

coward

[timid badger]

they have more value than ror2, because every boss is guaranteed to give an item
ror2 mountain shrines have linear item scaling and exponential difficulty scaling, rorr mountain shrines have exponential item and difficulty scaling

[supple mist]

Probably not? Like 3 of the same normal bosses give 3 items, but an elite boss only gives 1

In ror2 a mountain shrine is guaranteed +1 boss/green item, but not quite in rorr

[zenith garden]

later into the runs id say they are worth more due to larger packs going even further. but if you get a single overoading worm instead of 2-3 normal ones youd lose items

[timid badger]

i think rorr mountain shrines tend to give groups of bosses more often than a few elite ones

[supple mist]

If you looped and the teleporter already spawns elite bosses, then mountain might be worth it

But even later in the run it might spawn blighted bosses... I haven't seen one tho

[zenith garden]

comes down to the gamba tbh, will it spawn more instead of making elites

[supple mist]

Idk the exact chance, but I gave up on hitting moutain shrines in stage 3+ after getting overloading lynx totems on stage 5

Stage 1&2 are definitely worth tho

[simple bison]

Does anyone know how damage randomization works in this game? damage in general is obviously supposed to be based on survivor damage, which is true for the most part, but there is also some slight randomization that allows for dealing less or more damage. I tested this with commando's primary at level 1 against stone golems, and below is a table of this. Value refers to the damage of an individual shot, and frequency refers to how many times a shot dealt that much damage. Since commando has 12 damage at level 1, and one primary shot deals 60% damage, theoretically this should average at about 7.2. The average I found through this data seems to trend towards 8, but this could be potentially explained by the game rounding decimals up. I did find it interesting however that the most common damage value (by a decent amount) is higher than the predicted damage output, and want to know what calculations are actually going on behind the scenes

[timid badger]

it's lying
damage isn't random

the numbers are

you can see this through things like golden gun, which will always show the same number

[simple bison]

something like decaying sample is random though

[timid badger]

except it isn't

[simple bison]

in the exact damage dealt per tick

not the percentage of base damage

test it in a game

[simple bison]

oh do you literally mean the numbers dont mean anything?

[timid badger]

yes

[simple bison]

lmao, that's such a troll

[timid badger]

well, they're offset by a random amount

[simple bison]

ok, that makes more sense

[timid badger]

i think it's 80-120%? probably wrong on the numbers

[simple bison]

but actual damage as it's calculated internally is constant? just to confirm

[timid badger]

yeah

[simple bison]

cool, thanks

[zenith garden]

the easiest way to see the numbers lie is by shooting a tele boss as the health bar is correct. which is why our testing trial uses it

there is also damage rounding so you cant deal like 10.6 damage since it rounds up

[naive kite]

modding when

[timid badger]

it's gonna be a long time after launch -devs before launch
it's been three months, so it may be coming soon?

[quick edge]

Later this year, as told in Hopoo stream…

[viral siren]

Do Shrines of the Mountain guarantee extra items if Sacrifice is on? Or does it just up the boss level? I was trying to get origin and realized I might have been making it unnecessarily harder on myself lol

I guess there might not be a solid way of confirming it one way or another. I just. Uh. 30 overloading golems makes FMJ go BRRRRRR but also makes Spite go BRRRRRRRR

[charred forum]

if "soon" for them was the November 8 could you imagine how's "long" is gonna be

[narrow cave]

Even on sacrifice bosses and hordes guarantee at least one item im pretty sure

At least from my experience

[viral siren]

Well I know they guarantee one on any tp event, but I’m wondering if mountain shrines will also contribute items. Sacrifice makes it so items only drop from enemies, which seems like it might not affect that potentially, which also means mountain shrines just make it harder with no real reward lol

[whole viper]

any idea if a multiplayer like…qol update will ever happen?

[narrow cave]

i think they guarantee and extra item as well.

[proud peak]

Idk what you mean but they did improve multiplayer in some old patches

[umbral mural]

folks, why doesn't barbed wire work on a rope

please enlighten me

[viral siren]

Most anything doesn’t. Drones don’t either. It’d be a little strong if you could just constantly hang on a rope and just wait till everything dies to passive damage

Though maybe drones should still be able to shoot flying enemies since they take damage anyway…

[umbral mural]

Thank you for taking the time to explain. I didn't know Drones stopped shooting when climbing ropes too.

[eternal parrot]

if i have the Life savings item on my turrets do i get the cash they generate also?

[narrow cave]

Yes im pretty sure

[eternal parrot]

damn it is op then

thx

[narrow cave]

If you spam up and jump you can squeeze some damage in

[nocturne vortex]

ok

wtf is with enforcers shield

half the time it doesnt block anything coming from my direction

[frosty sky]

What exactly constitutes "backflipping" with the kill provi while backflipping achievement for sniper? I've killed him a couple times by shooting him as soon as I can after using the backflip but I can't seem to get the achievement

[cobalt ocean]

damage over time/equipment/drones

has to happen during the backflip

[hollow merlin]

def not an easy one to get

[tender gazelle]

its not too bad

just have any decent damage equipment and you can do it

you have 3 tries to do it per run, you can do it on any providence phase

[mild sun]

best way is to get the cursed doll and use it while backflipping off the high edge

[jovial cairn]

siiiick

i js like the name of the acheivment i have nothing to add

[frosty sky]

Ah gotcha I was a bit confused that it wasn't possible to do by just like shooting him cause considering the name I would've thought it'd be like a trick shot or smth lol

[old prawn]

Anyone active in here??

[snow pasture]

how do i get that crystal that resets cooldowns?

[steady carbon]

kill overloading magma worm with loader

better use the default m2 cuz overloading worm is scary

[finite robin]

keep trying brother i just got lucky

what you play on?

ah rip

you trying to get the scavenger kill

like unlock

ohhh ur talking ror returns

no clue i mianly play ror2

[zenith garden]

With getting the acrid unlock you can turn it into a 50/50 chance by turning off the new stages

[proud peak]

[cobalt ocean]

could always loop until it pops up too

you might even get the secret crash ending!

[nocturne vortex]

how many stack of tougher times should i go for? i assume it stacks like ror2

[zenith garden]

tough times only increases armor, hermits scarf is what youre wanting

but yea the scarf uses the same calculations as tougher times

[nocturne vortex]

oke

[nocturne vortex]

wtf are those elites that dash through terrain like a heat seeking missile???

[daring bone]

Lemurian Calvary

[nocturne vortex]

also how TF DOES THE BOUNCING BRAIN WORK/IS GOOD?

[timid badger]

it's not very good

[narrow cave]

The only thing its good for is extra damage on a bunch of enemies in a small spot but even then things like mace or gold bomb would be better there

[dull glen]

whats a fun void fiend build?

[cobalt ocean]

#ror2-game-questions

[dull glen]

oops thx

[hot rain]

hello ror2 discord

[timid badger]

#ror2-discussion also works

[timid badger]

rorr: am i a joke to you

[worthy matrix]

is there anything that I have to do to unlock ancient scepter?

[fleet flower]

Beat the game as merc on monsoon. Anything else doesnt matter

[arctic raven]

so does uke proc on hit in rorr or is it on attack cuz im using drill charge as miner and its proccing random lightning midair

[maiden lantern]

On attack i'm pretty sure

[arctic raven]

i see

helpful, thank you!

[meager dirge]

Is there a way to check achievement progress? I'm not seeing bars, numbers, anything...

[red seal]

Main Menu -> logs and unlockables -> challenges

Or it could be Main Menu -> stats and highscores -> challenges

Also theres your overall game completion percentage in the stats and highscores screen

[granite hearth]

i just started playing is it normal there is no people playing in public lobbys?

[maiden lantern]

From what i know yeah

Most people dont really seem to like playing with randos thus most lobbies are private

Since the lack of communication leads to every player playing like if it was solo, meaning they just go taking every chest they find without caring about what the other players have or where they are

[narrow cave]

In ror 2013 how do you unlock huntress?

[mild sun]

collecting 15 logs iirc

[worthy matrix]

thank you

[uneven bluff]

Hi, I have a question. I saw RoRR playerbase plummeted on Steam and that made me wonder, will there be any future patches?

[red seal]

The game is certainly going to receive more patches

And we'll get mod support soon™

[uneven bluff]

Thats cool, thanks

[uneven bluff]

So, is option to dynamically change zoom still on the table?

[red seal]

I think it is

There has been a lot of people that have suggested it in the #1113085067716214825 channel, theres no way the devs aren't aware of it

[fallow bramble]

Is the bonus damage from the Hit List applied to base damage (base damage 10, 10 bonus damage, 200% damage = 40), or on top of total damage (base damage 10, 200% damage, 10 bonus damage, 30 damage total)?

[elder patrol]

Base damage

[crystal steeple]

I made it to providence and died in a 66min run 😢

[wanton marsh]

What happens when you use the artifact of honour and stack old guillotine like, 10 times?

Oneshot? Two shot?
Does it work on elite bosses?

[red seal]

The old guillotione has diminishing returns

Also wrong channel

[wanton marsh]

Damn

[red seal]

No worries

[hot rain]

hi

[steady carbon]

I hope guillotine is in rorr too

Cuz really hate blighted enemy

[wanton marsh]

Doesn’t matter what’s better, Daybreak is more fun

[meager dirge]

Some challenges are confusing to me... Like, what does "Close Calls" want? Dodge lethal attacks. Dodge with what, what counts as lethal? And it's annoying that you can't even see your progress. Just locked or unlocked...

Also, is this channel suited for only questions? Or are related comments okay, too?

[tender gazelle]

dodge with your utility, it has immunity frames

lethal just means an attack that wouldve killed you if you didnt dodge it

[meager dirge]

So... Most of them, depending on difficulty. And do both the roll and the slide have these i-frames?

[tender gazelle]

only roll

you can see what abilities have iframes by looking at your healthbar

itll say 'immune' while the iframes are active

[meager dirge]

Does this also apply to the mini healthbar? And are the mini health and skill HUD pieces even useful?

[tender gazelle]

unfortunately not
personal preference but i like using them

makes it so i dont have to keep peeking at the bottom of the screen

[meager dirge]

Is it better to focus your eyes on your character, or distant enemies when it comes to dodging and survival? Especially since you can have a bunch of different zoom settings.

Basically, what can I as a player do to suck less at this game? Because I know the RNG can just decide you die. And I'd like to avoid that!

[tender gazelle]

generally keep your eyes on your character but be wary of your surroundings
if youre zoomed out you should also just be looking around your screen for chests and interactables

do try being fully zoomed out if you arent already its very helpful for effecient looting

[humble lichen]

Max zoom on glass and just dodge

Or just set 10% armor in game settings

Stone golems are best enemy to do that because their attacks are slow and easy to dodge unlike lemuarians or wisps

[meager dirge]

10% armor... You mean like, how much damage I take from attacks?

[humble lichen]

You get oneshotted

[meager dirge]

I have not unlocked Glass yet...

[humble lichen]

You can do it wwithou glass too

If you set game on moonson and armor on 10% this will work simliar

[meager dirge]

The 10% is the damage I take, though? Not how much armor you have. 10% means I'm taking like no damage.

[humble lichen]

No. It means how much def you have

10% is 10x more damage taken

Stone golem can clap you like mosquito

This is to be sure when something hits you

but it's not a difficult challenge and I personally did it on the first try, so you'll probably do the same

@meager dirge Sorry. I was wrong. however, it means how much damage you take. put it on 999%

I very rarely set this, so that's why i made mistake

[meager dirge]

I understand. So, make the number bigger, take more damage. Wouldn't 999% just be instant death from anything? Ouch...

[humble lichen]

Yes

you must avoid LETHAL attacks

[meager dirge]

Is using Kin to ensure only golems a good tactic?

[humble lichen]

As you want. Honestly i prefer doing it on lemuarians because its faster

[leaden gyro]

Quick question, I dont know if I can ask it here and how this server is about this subject, but is there a big modding community for RoRr?

[zenith garden]

we are currently waiting for the official modding support but it is unknown about when that will be released

so far we can make visual and text changes but not much more

[leaden gyro]

good to know thank you, there is no ETA on official mod support right?

[narrow cave]

no eta

[meager dirge]

For the Untouchable challenge... Is it getting hurt by an enemy attack, or taking damage whatsoever?

[tender gazelle]

taking damage

[meager dirge]

Damn. So constantly and unavoidably breaking my ankles to fall damage invalidates everything. Great!

[deft urchin]

Just put the enemy damage multiplier to x999

So when you are hit, you are sure to reset

[meager dirge]

I do. But my question was if it was ALL damage sources, or just enemy attacks.

[deft urchin]

Just be extra careful around drops and geyeser

[past oracle]

how do i remove all achievements

cause

my friend done

made me install a thing

that

unlocks all thigns

[meager dirge]

Do movement utilities cancel fall damage in this game?

[maiden lantern]

It depends

Some of them do, some don't

If they have i-frames, or stop momentum then they do (i.e. miner special)

If it's something like chef utility then it doesn't

[deft urchin]

You need to activate the steam console and type a command that erases all your achievement data

If you give some minutes I can give you the command

open the "run" app on windows

paste and run this:
steam://open/console
this will open steam in the console tab

paste this in the command line:
reset_all_stats <RoRR steam id>

you should get this console output:

"reset_all_stats success for appid <RoRR steam id>"

[proud peak]

Depends on wether or not they provide invincibility or slow your momentum

[jaunty notch]

any info on when we're gonna get 1.0.5 on switch?

[lyric sierra]

uhh any idea what this code error refers to?

I need a more zoomed in picture

[proud peak]

Start menu draw

No clue what that object could ve

[lyric sierra]

my "press any button" message said something along the lines of "ui_skipmenu"

I did swap out the english language pack for the one that tells me the item description. that could be it

veryfying the game files fixed it

[mellow rock]

are there any unique or good builds for the void?

like what items should i "strive" for using void and is there some suggestions on how i play him

[tender gazelle]

if youre talking about void fiend go to #ror2-game-questions

unless idk what void is

[mellow rock]

oh yeah mb it's from ror2

[meager dirge]

Question about High Caliber. Does it have to be 15 perfect in a row from your very first reload? Or say, can you mess up a few times, but then get 15 perfect ones later on?

[quick edge]

Just 15 in a row, I’m not sure I understand the question but at any given time 15 in a row

[meager dirge]

Alright. Man, this is harder than I thought... I can usually manage 6 or 7 in a row, then I slip. Is there any trick to it, or just a lot of practice and muscle memory?

[arctic umbra]

Practice

[meager dirge]

Those moments where I miss the sweet spot by a few pixels just hurt... But at least this is a simple challenge. There's a LOT worse out there!

[meager dirge]

So... Attack speed buff from a Warbanner somehow helped me get consistent enough to do it! I guess now I just take the fight to Providence and do some sick tricks.

[forest nova]

Rhythm game

[meager dirge]

I am a man that lacks rhythm... And patience. But hey, don't have to worry about it any more!

[forest nova]

I got it within 1-2 minutes

Tbf, it was probably my 4-5th time actually playing Sniper in any capacity

So I wasn’t entirely used to his rhythm yet

Now I am

[mild sun]

i usually count to 1 everytime sniper chambers a new round, and i always hit the white mark first try

[gleaming vault]

Is getting a beam drone as engineer just pure luck or is there a easier way to find laser/beam drones?

[mild sun]

pure luck

they can sometimes spawn in magma barracks too

[gleaming vault]

tragic

[mild sun]

indeed

[jovial cairn]

hey so what resolution in game settings should i put it to then unzoom max to get the huge screen

where i can see whole map

[meager dirge]

What's the best vertical mobility items? I want to do the Siiick challenge for Sniper. But I also want to get the Strange Battery to start unlocking [REDACTED].

So, Photon Jetpack, Rusty Jetpack + Hopoo Feathers? Something I don't know about or haven't unlocked?

[narrow cave]

I think thats it, what do you need the movement for?

[mild sun]

you just use loader honestly

[meager dirge]

Well, I was gonna say to reach the battery. But now I have to do another run, because I accidentally looped. And apparently looping is kinda brutal in this game.

[meager dirge]

When it comes to unlocking Robomando, do you have to activate the teleporter at 22 minutes, or does the animation have to finish at 22 minutes?

[narrow cave]

You have to leave after the teleporter boss when the timer says 22:—

[narrow cave]

To reach the battery i would recommend alt utility pilot

If you don’t have it then yea the movement items are good

[meager dirge]

I died to lava. I couldn't find the Robomando. What does this little bastard look like, and is he REALLY worth all the trouble!? Now that I've died naturally, how much of this process do I need to repeat?

And do you have any easy tips/builds for a Drizzle playing dumbass like me to survive Rainstorm long enough to eat it to the Robomando?

[jovial cairn]

heya, anyone know what to search in ctrl f in the save file to find "total time played"?

[deft urchin]

You mean the steam hours?

Becouse you can't change those from the save file

[jovial cairn]

no not steam hours lol

in the stats page

[deft urchin]

I have no idea then

[mild sun]

artifact of command, pilot, drizzle, battery, CL chest, die, rainstorm, get battery, wait when the timer says 22:XX, on the 4th stage, he'll have a huge green arrow pointing at him

reccommend just bumping your dmg and defense up

[meager dirge]

I already play with 10% damage taken, and 200% dealt. And CL chest?

I am just horribly bad at the videogame.

[mild sun]

did you put the battery in the chest underneath the contact light?

[meager dirge]

Oh, Contact Light. I was trying to figure out what CL meant.

[safe cave]

I picked up an equipment and when I dropped my old one, I could have sworn the star turned silver instead of bronze colored. Is that a thing?

[mental scaffold]

if it stayed silver, might be a glitch, but if it switched to white/silver for a second and then goes back to bronze it probably just does that when you switch to it

does anyone know if its possible to combine rock golem drones? Theres sprites in the data file for a golden rock golem drone, but I cant get far enough without them dying to combine them

[mental scaffold]

Looking in the sprites theres no animation for the little start turning silver, each equipment has only one frame of just the item sprite.

here are some that i could find that arent orange

(idk why they are so larj)

[zenith garden]

the gold golem drone absolutly exists in game as well

[mental scaffold]

is it good? ive gotten 3 golem drones at once but they all died to 7 overloading worms

[zenith garden]

main benefit is about 5x more health

[mental scaffold]

hes still gonna die very quickly

[zenith garden]

true there

[woeful aurora]

does the repair kit or arms race affect rock golem drones

[zenith garden]

arms race no, repair kit yes

[tardy frigate]

Hi Just now getting back to the game and all my progress was wiped and all my characters reset how can I recover this on ps5

[upbeat tulip]

Not a game question, and possibly not one able to be answered but is there any news on when the rorr vinyl set is set to arrive in feb?

[inner dune]

Does Risk of Rain Returns save progress mid-run? Or is there a mod for it?

[woeful aurora]

it doesn't and there aren't any real mods yet

[inner dune]

Oh, I see. Thanks.

[mild sun]

check if its stored in your cloud and redownload it from there

[mental scaffold]

Nothing yet, I've also pre-ordered it so idk man

[steep grove]

hey so, this is a kinda odd question but is risk of rain returns going to get more content updates (other than bug fixes) or is it considered a finished product (which it absolutely is)

I am just wondering if I have more to look forward to as a large fan of the original who has been loving the remake

[steady carbon]

you mean more rorr update or dlc?

should be yes but i think they're more focusing on the new ror2 dlc now

[woeful aurora]

i dont think there is dlc for returns planned

[steep grove]

huh ok

[steep grove]

fair

well heres hoping I see more content come to that game, its truly a great one!

[steady carbon]

Yup

[jovial field]

RoR2 and RoR:R are being developed by different groups of people

both are being worked on simultaneously

Gearbox has responsibility for RoR2, Hopoo Games has responsibility for RoR:R

[jovial field]

no new standalone content has been announced or teased, but updates will happen. if nothing else they are planning to add steam workshop support

[steep grove]

fantastic!

thanks, I just could not find this on the internet for the life of me

[jovial field]

i think that's mostly because the devs have been rather quiet, and the only stuff they have shared is only on this discord server

workshop details here: #risk-of-rain-returns message

[steep grove]

cool

[steady carbon]

hope they have update sooner cuz

feel like more people go back to playing ror2

most youtuber and streamer just go back to playing ror2 after a month

[knotty horizon]

Does aegis have a sound effect? I started getting this weird noise at random intervals during a run and eventually I realized it seemed to be happening whenever my barrier activated from aegis. I had just enough healing to continually go back and forth between no barrier and a tiny bit, so I constantly had this noise playing. Anyone else experienced this?

[elder patrol]

Barrier gain sound effect

[valid cove]

Thats because the ror2 modding community is huge so there is always something to look out for.

[knotty horizon]

Oof thats annoying

[forest nova]

Hehe

Funny sound

[mild sun]

how do people even play robomando

[red seal]

Don't focus on killing stuff, just run around looting the stage, hit the teleporter as soon as you see it

The trick with robomando is to outscale the difficulty by zooming through the stages to make up for your absolutely atrocious base damage output

[mild sun]

thats what i do, full loot, hit tele and keep going, but omg

[mild sun]

that is true but damn

[red seal]

Ye still hes a bit tough

At least your runs will be taking shorter amounts of time so you'll get more attempts in in a smaller time-frame

Also his utility is ass too

In a lot of the situations, it'll put you in more danger, you're better of just walking since your walk speed is pretty good

Good luck!

[mild sun]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-yup-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-ii-shadow-company-gif-27481601

[red seal]

🤜 🤛

[neon dagger]

Will artificer get a buff or something anytime soon? It feels very weak 😦 or maybe its the base skills im using

What will benefit most? Crowbars depreciate so fast cus i cant charge fast enough and dish that big chunk

[cursive thorn]

It helps to think of artis other tools less as direct damage and more like ways to buy you more time to properly space your chakram

Also, mash primary, don't hold it, even with autofire

[grizzled sigil]

Hi everybody. Does anyone know why the game is not updated to version 1.0.5? There is no update notification. I wrote to Steam support about this problem and they replied, "After checking your logs, I see that you have already been able to install the latest version of the game (1.0.5).

If you still see your version as 1.0.4 in the game, please contact the game's support team for more help. You can contact the Risk of Rain Returns support service"

I would send screenshots that I don't have a notification that there is an update and that I still have version 1.0.4, but I can't send pictures here and I don't think it makes sense.

[zenith garden]

You can send pictures once you get a role, https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/943500468523532338

An easy way to check in game if it’s just a visual bug is if you have drifter and her cubes unlocked, seeing if the cubes interact with geysers

[grizzled sigil]

It's not a visual bug. Tactical Slide still broken.

[zenith garden]

What do you mean by broken?

[grizzled sigil]

https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1195101148319858758

[zenith garden]

That one is talking about a bug that occurs only on 1.0.5

[grizzled sigil]

Well... cubes interact with geysers. But game says this:

[zenith garden]

Yea I’d say that bit wasn’t changed (devs perhaps forgot) but you’re definitely on 1.0.5 so all good

[grizzled sigil]

Thank you very much.

[desert hound]

How to fix fps drops?

[fierce token]

Question. I completed some achievements for unlockables but exited the game before I officially claimed them, so now it says the task has been done but the item's blacked out. Do I have to unlock it again, or?

[mild sun]

no, you have to find it to unlock its entry

[fierce token]

Gotcha.

As long as I didn't softlock it or something.

[arctic umbra]

how tf do i get back into the tutorial for bandits prism

[mild sun]

settings, and controls

[arctic umbra]

ah okay

thank you

[ancient field]

arti enjoyers rise up

[arctic umbra]

sit back down

[red seal]

Rise up again

[mild sun]

sit down please

[mental scaffold]

unlock whar?

[abstract dragon]

Keep playing you will improve and eventually you will make it

That’s my main tips

[deft urchin]

If you aren't doing that already, play on drizzle

There's no shame in playing at that difficulty, everyone did at some point

If that's still too difficult try to use the damage sliders

[abstract dragon]

Aren’t you thinking about drizzle

[deft urchin]

Right

[woeful aurora]

has anyone actually beat the game on monsoon with max damage taken and minimum damage dealt?

[mild sun]

that is almost literally impossible

it'd take days

[zenith garden]

Telescope mace would be the fastest way through for all the non bosses but other than that

[deft urchin]

Why is chef's alt primary the only skill in the game that still doesn't benefit from the rapid fire toggle

You still attack faster if you mash the attack rather than being equal than holding down the button

It was reported in bug report on december but still no action has been taken

[zenith garden]

Arti primary is also faster by mashing so it’s not the only one

[tender gazelle]

yeah hope they do an update soonish that at least fixes a bunch of the prominent bugs/issues

[meager dirge]

Any way to increase Special stocks in this game? I know there's Secondary(Mags), and Utility(Afterburner). Also, is there any big advantage over the other when it comes to stocks VS. cooldown reduction/reset?

[timid badger]

1. ancient scepter
2. some of each ig, stocks are good for burst, cooldown is good for sustain

wait no that's' special cd reduction

i don't believe there is a special stock thing

[maiden lantern]

I guess ancient scepter on engi counts as extra stocks as iirc it makes the turret max go from 2 to 3 but in terms of universal extra stocks there aren't any iirc

[meager dirge]

Ah. Just thought I'd ask! There are some specials that would be funny to spam/have extras of. Yet, you get enough Mags on some secondaries, and other skills become... kinda obsolete. For example, Pilot on Mags is also on absolute crack.

[arctic raven]

if i have life savings and i place an engi turret does it grant me more money

also do my snake eyes stacks affect my turret's crit chance

[arctic raven]

drifter too its really scuffed

[proud peak]

I found her's to be faster by holding

[arctic raven]

really?

i had crazy speed when i spammed but that's just me

[ashen basin]

does this game have more features than original ror1 besides the quality of life you get in the menus? i'm talking playable content

[arctic umbra]

yes

new chars

new itmes

new gamemode

[ashen basin]

what gamemode

[arctic umbra]

providence trials

[ashen basin]

providence tirals

yeah i've heard of them

is it like prismatic trials?

[arctic umbra]

nah

[ashen basin]

more like eclipse?

[arctic umbra]

short missions for items or skills

replayable time trials and stuff

[ashen basin]

oh okk

[arctic umbra]

some are combat some are puzzles and some are races

[ashen basin]

that sounds so cool

are they unlocked from the start?

[arctic umbra]

you have to get one new character to unlock them

when you do a trial the adjecent ones are unlocked

do all 48 for a final challange

[ashen basin]

does it unlock something cool?

[abstract dragon]

Judgment

[ashen basin]

i'm sorry how the fuck do you do the first trial in under 1:35

[abstract dragon]

I did it first try

just keep trying dude

[ashen basin]

well i greeded for it

i misplayed

i was just playing super safe first try lol

[abstract dragon]

Does anybody know how the game calculates "most dangerous enemy" for sniper's spotter drone?

[red seal]

I don't really know, but it seems like it values the enemies type, more than the elite type

If that makes sense

Like if theres an elite lemurian and a regular tuber, it'll mark the tuber

[woeful aurora]

i read somewhere that it marks based on the credit cost of the enemy

or it always marks the tp boss

[meager dirge]

Does the Drone Repair Kit actually do anything besides spawn a drone? All my downed/inactive drones still need money to be repaired...

[woeful aurora]

it only heals drones that are damaged but not destroyed, doesn't do anything to downed drones

[meager dirge]

Ah. Well, at least now I know. Though, it still doesn't seem very useful. Considering how prone drones are to suicide...

[zenith garden]

It also boosts the attack speed of the alive drones so it’s a good damage increase early

[abstract dragon]

Repairs ones that are damaged (that are still alive) if the special drone is gone then respawn it. And increase attack speed of all drones

[proud peak]

I could be wrong but it also feels like that for a few seconds your drones gain invincibility

[deep marsh]

I believe I was previously told that drones share your invincibility ?

[red seal]

Yes they do

But idk if drone repair kit gives invincibility to drones

[mild sun]

repair kit doesnt give invincibility to drones, no

it just heals your drones to full

[cloud moon]

I know this doesn’t really count as a game question but will ror returns come to PlayStation or Xbox

[peak hollow]

is barbed wire able to trigger other items? brilliant behemoth, shattering justice etc.

[elder patrol]

Nope

[zenith garden]

only items that can trigger other items are repulsion armor and fire shield

[tropic pebble]

did they change the drop rate of items when using artifact of sacrifice? I swear it's a lot lower of a chance than it used to be

[mild sun]

we dont know atm

though i saw somewhere the devs did confirm it

[tender gazelle]

they didn't

[spare sinew]

does anyone have any tips

for

getting kill 10 elder lumerians without losing fun meter as miner?

[mild sun]

ehh, just camp the 5th level until you see alot of em spawn

[spare sinew]

yea that's what i've been doing

[mild sun]

They're very easy to bait and will barely hit you, you can just use your primary

and your uti

[spare sinew]

but i accidently grabbed tesla coil from the random pick thing ( i didnt want it but i got it )

[mild sun]

as long as you kill them, it doesn't matter with what

your heat just had to be up

[spare sinew]

its not right now but i am in bug hell

[mild sun]

uh oh

[spare sinew]

im alive

i was just

in bug hell

got it

[mild sun]

nice

[spare sinew]

i thought it was 10

its 8??

now i rush providence

how do iget this stupid chest

this is the one stage 6 chest i can never get

i need the red

[proud peak]

Theres a giant stack of crates the floor above

Theres a hidden rope on the highest one where you can climb the crates down

[proud peak]

Exactly

[red seal]

Also if you walk to the right a bit too much when you arrive at the chest room, you'll fall. So don't do that without getting the chest

It annoyed me the first time

Dont let it happen to you

[spare sinew]

thanks

[spare sinew]

i did like 20 times lol

[red seal]

Lol

[spare sinew]

prov's dead

[red seal]

Lets gooo

[warm dune]

do proc coefficients exist in this game like they do in ror2?

[arctic umbra]

nah

also no proc chaining

[narrow cave]

Aka more hits per second is more chance per second

Therefore merc special and pilot alt primary and others are really good with chance items

[warm dune]

ah

[zenith garden]

The only exception to proc chaining is fire shield and repulsion armor procing other items

Stack up a pile of 15 lemurians and oil flame kill them in one hit

[sturdy widget]

does the second robomando run need to be above drizzle, we found it in stage 2 even tho its drizle again

[zenith garden]

the box will spawn again no matter the difficulty but to actually get robo to spawn it needs to be off drizzle

[mild sun]

How do you do the enforcer 5 min in combat unlock? equipments are the last things i need to unlock

[spare sinew]

find a guy. hit the guy. guy chase you. put up shield. guy cant hit you. do this for 5 minutes

or run through the stage shooting every enemy that comes up with a shotgun

[mild sun]

bet

[deft urchin]

Put 10% damage done and put a shield in front and from time to time use M2 to put away enemies that went behind you

You do minimal damage so it will take time to kill them

[tender gazelle]

you don't need to be constantly hitting something

just sit in a corner for 5 minutes without activating the teleporter and chill while killing whatevrr spawns

[mild sun]

im p sure spamming the shotgun also works

[deft urchin]

You don't but sometimes enemies go behind you so you just use M2 to push them in front of you

[tender gazelle]

no im just saying you dont have to do the 10% dmg thing

[deft urchin]

It's just a failsafe

[tender gazelle]

its very unnecessary and might make it more annoying to do in case an enemy like a crab or jellyfish spanws

i went like 40 seconds without hitting anything when i did the achievment

[deft urchin]

Better to not risk killing an enemy and incurring in the risk of them not spawning fast enough imo

But that's just personal bias I guess

[tender gazelle]

doing the 10% damage thing just wont help in the achievement in any way is what im saying

as far as i can tell

[deft urchin]

I think it does

As you can also put more M1 to keep them away without having to worry of killing them

(as you could also pair that with 10% damage recieved)

[tender gazelle]

but you dont have to worry about killing them

just kill them

jts fine

you wont lose the achievement if nothing spawns nearby for the next minute as long as you stay in shield mode

[deft urchin]

We don't know exactly what defines "stay in combat" so it's better safe than sorry to keep them alive

[tender gazelle]

i personally just held m1 just in case that changes anything but I can't tell

[tender gazelle]

well im going off my experience here

[deft urchin]

I am too

[tender gazelle]

i definitely know you dont have to keep hitting shit

thats a fact i know

so decreasing your damage to keep hitting enemies wont help

[deft urchin]

It's a matter of enemies getting sometimes behind you and actually threat your death

So you have to do something like hitting them to push them away, so to not risk them going behind you often thus having to damage them often to push them away, you put as little damage as possible to negate the risk of killing the only enemy remaining thus probably breaking the "on combat" streak

[stoic crystal]

Why is it so unnecessarily complicated to get robomando? How are you supposed to know what you’re supposed to do without looking it up?

So I already put the battery in the chest, now I need to play in monsoon or rainstorm and get to the second level, take the battery, wait till the 22 minute mark, then go through the teleporter, and then on the third level I look for robomando?

[mild sun]

yes

[stoic crystal]

Oof

[mild sun]

He could be anywhere in the level, and its pretty easy to find him

he'll have a big ol green arrow poiting on him

[stoic crystal]

Ok cool

And if I die while trying to get him, will I have to put the battery in the chest all over again?

[mild sun]

yes

[tender gazelle]

only if you already opened the battery chest

[stoic crystal]

Ok

Mildly annoying, but I think I’ll be able to do it

Are there any hints in game that tell you how to unlock it? How did people find it?

[mild sun]

Something abt every character log iirc

[stoic crystal]

Oh ok

[umbral wyvern]

Yeah there's a string of symbols in every single character log

Combining them together and decoding it gives you the solution

[timid badger]

Not combining them

Just decoding gives independent clues

[spare sinew]

For Mace Replica

if i take damage with a guardian heart does it count

or does it only count if i lose HP

[mild sun]

it counts for all damage

it does say without getting hurt

hurt would mean getting hit

[spare sinew]

Shield damage counts then damn

theoritically whats the best red for the challenge

[mild sun]

just speedrun tbh

that's what i did

and if you have kin/glass use them

[spare sinew]

what red do i need

i ran through command so i can gurantee i get hermit scarfs and capes

nvm its obvious actually

i hate this challenge

[mild sun]

you. don't. need. REDS!!!!!

[spare sinew]

OK

OK I GET IT

umbrella is obviously great but anyway

this challenge just sucks because no matter what you're gonna take damage from falling against half the bosses; the other half are painful to even fight without getting hit

[zenith garden]

If you do end up with reds then umbrella then daggers is usually a safe bet especially if you’re on kin glass

[spare sinew]

got it

like

a while go

[narrow cave]

I love kin glass blades

[rough shard]

what is the elite that is like sort of a teleporting shadow?

[hexed gorge]

Blighted

[rough shard]

and what does it do and how does it happen

[elder patrol]

Blight has 2 random elite modifiers

They only spawn in Monsoon as the difficulty increases

[stoic crystal]

Yooo I got robomando

His ability to unlock any chest with a five second cooldown seems really op

[fervent copper]

That’s because it is. His other abilities are the worst in the game, though

[narrow cave]

Wdym dive is the best mobility in the game smh

[fervent copper]

Not when you land in a crowd of CRABS and then they eat you

If you can’t tell I hate crabs

[narrow cave]

Num num robo tasty

[stoic crystal]

Oh yeah fair

[abstract dragon]

Doesn’t matter when you have tons of free items

[hallow plinth]

Money is easy to get though

If you want all chests in a level you can get them easy

[maiden lantern]

It's not about how easy it is

It's about how fast it is

Robomando can get stacked with items much quicker than any other character, thus basically being one step ahead compared to everyone else

[quick edge]

It’s the infinite drones that are insane on my boy robo

[woeful ginkgo]

What happens when you get one infusion from salvage (it's the only one I have) and then I lose it cuz its a temp item
does the hp all stay? or do i need a permanent infusion to keep the hp? or does the hp come back when I get another infusion

[charred forum]

hp will stay

[frail ridge]

[boreal ermine]

genuinely what the fuck is it that makes imp overlords randomly kill themselves on stage 5 if you just go away from them for a while

it trivialises imp shrine challenges on stage 5 and i like that, but it seems a little unfair lol

like i can't even explain it sometimes cause like
they'll find a way to kill themselves even if they're in an enclosed space where they can't access any pits

[woeful aurora]

i also have had the same thing happen but never over 20mins into a run, idk if that actually means anything tho

[civic crystal]

random ass question regard provi's stats, how much Base Hp and Hp/per level does he got

tried lookin around for this and as far as i know provi has 9k base hp but neither sources tell me how much hp/per level

[proud peak]

Not enough is the answer

[mild sun]

i think he just gets like 1.2k or 1.6k hp/level

or its exponential!

[vapid ridge]

Hi y’all, I’m wondering about RoR Returns’ performance on Nintendo Switch. I prefer playing things on console vs PC cuz I’m used to controllers and I only have a laptop, but the bullet hell sections of RoR2 could be pretty taxing on the system and the Switch isn’t very powerful. Anyone run into limitations on the switch during intense gameplay? Any recommendations either way for PC vs Switch?

Also, apologies if this is the wrong channel (point me in the right direction?)

[mild sun]

i play on switch and i only experience some lag or stutter if its alot of enemies near eachother with fireworks and whatnot

even on my 2nd loop, its pretty stable

[proud peak]

The switch runs pretty stable though some artifacts and items can cause slight performance issues

[vapid ridge]

thanks for the input!

[tender gazelle]

<@&559786374228738069> scam link

[void grail]

are they ever gonna give mod support to this game?

[arctic umbra]

Yeah but it's not a few months probably

[fringe stratus]

Is there crossplatform?

I’m on switch and I know someone who plays on steam

[mild sun]

no

[hardy spear]

if i was playing with someone and they said they were about to eat a pickle jar, should i assume they are going to eat a full jar of pickles or the actual pickle jar itself without eating the pickles?

[sharp wigeon]

can i make some question for the enjoyers of this game
I love ror2, specially the harder difficulties im doing the eclipse grind rn, im a perosn that enjoys challenging games
I tried rorr and it feels so confusing and weird to me, i think the game being 2d in conjunct with the mechanic to find the teleporter really throws me off, makes me feel super anxious that im just going the wrong side and idk maybe i just had a bad start with the game
Is this normal to feel this weirdness about the game? should i just invest more time and it will make sense?

[stoic crystal]

IMO it’s better if I’m going away from the teleporter, cause then I can get more items. But the maps are small enough that you can search the whole thing in 5-10 minutes

[timid badger]

The specific wording implies the consumption of both the jar and the pickles inside, so neither

[hardy spear]

or would that be both...?

[timid badger]

both both and neither

[hardy spear]

what about neither neither and both?

[timid badger]

no, that doesn't work, because it at least has to be both

[silver cedar]

Without further context both of your assumptions fit. Though eating the actual jar fits more as the typical phrase, which you used, would be 'eat a whole jar of pickles' which suggests a jar-sized amount of pickles.

And with the options you gave it can't be both; you can't eat the whole contents of a jar and eat just the jar without it's contents at the same time. They're mutually exclusive.

[karmic forge]

Hey, i'm tryin to 100% the game

Aside from the prisms, is there any other hidden skin?

I've heard about a Cook hidden skin, when defeating Acrid? But aside from that idk about any other

Also, it's possible to beat the game as Robomando? Seems really funny if doable.
But honestly not sure if it is

[prime obsidian]

It is more than possible

[red seal]

You need to kill acrid with chef's COOK skill, which is their alt special. Aside from that, if you have already got all of the prisms, there aren't any more secret skins. There are the ones you get from providence trials, and also one for each survivor for beating judgement with the respective one, though those aren't hidden. Keep in mind that robomando has no judgement skin

[prime obsidian]

It's actually incredibly easy

[red seal]

What? No cmon

Robo is harder than your average survivor

[karmic forge]

I'm trying it rn and honestly it really seems that way :p