game-questions-returns

[grim stream]

Perfect reload I mean

[elder patrol]

Kinda

[cerulean python]

yeah the timing being different from what u get used to with base attack speed can kinda throw you off, especially with predatory since it can change on the fly

[grim stream]

Thanks!

[steady plinth]

How good is this game compared to ror2?

[jovial field]

it's a good game

if you want a more precise opinion, play it yourself

[elder patrol]

Well if you are not comfortable with platforming nor RoR1, I don't recommend it

[tender gazelle]

its good but its pretty different

[elder patrol]

But it's a great game, def a big improvement over 1

[white forge]

I know but it's been a while

and there's a lot of known bugs and planned changes and such that are kinda just sitting there rn

[jovial field]

#risk-of-rain-returns message

it's been like 3 weeks

[white forge]

reload bar moves at the same speed, it just comes up faster because the firing animation ends more quickly

[white forge]

not trying to rush the devs I was literally just asking if there's been any word
so you could've started with this instead of talking down to me about it

[jovial field]

sorry. i've been irritable for other reasons today

[white forge]

that's fair

[jovial field]

the straightforward answer is just that there isn't any word, and i personally doubt there would be until they just drop the patch

[icy coral]

yall think there’s gonna be any content add-ons in the future similar to what we’ve seen in ROR2?

[robust agate]

Does anyone know if enforcers alternate primary has the chance to proc for each explosion from 1 grenade tube?

[tender gazelle]

yeah

thats its main upside

[outer thistle]

how to get miner? im thinking it has something to do with the dynamite but i cant really tell

[robust agate]

Thank you very much

[visual oriole]

how can i create a custom trial?

[uneven token]

does robomando have a hidden character log or no?

[tender gazelle]

nope

[feral turtle]

what is the code writen in for rorr again

isnt it ytt

[red lagoon]

Can the drones from 'The Backup' be recycled? Wanna know for a potential cheese to unlock Drifter.

[tender gazelle]

nah

but the drone from drone repair kit works

[red lagoon]

Welp, at least if I get that not all drones would be a loss if they got destroyed.

[sand island]

I'm trying to do the challenge with HAN-D where you kill 15 enemies at once with Forced Assembly, but I picked up a sceptre, so now my special is the upgraded one. Does it still work for the challenge?

[ancient field]

it should

[timid badger]

Gms

[mossy wagon]

good intuition! unfortunately, the in game description is not very helpful (which is something that's consistent across the game)
https://youtu.be/yXJikrWuA-k?si=8vUFuHXaGjULPi_E

[zenith garden]

There’s a file called main.trials and by editing that is how we make them

[fierce arch]

cant make a custom stage really but besides that pretty much everything is possible

could even recreate the main game and then go on to make custom game modes for the main game

[slender creek]

is repulsion armor supposed to make you not take damage

because it doesnt do that

[manic marsh]

My teleporter spawned in the container on rally pointy does anybody knows how to get in to container?

[slender creek]

is this ror2?

this is the returns channel

[slender creek]

put an ss in ror2 questions or describe it further bc theres a lot of containers

[manic marsh]

In the container nearest to the newt Altar that spawns behind the rock

[slender creek]

It shouldnt be closed or anything

Is it a question of how to get to it?

[fierce arch]

from overloading and a few other things it does not work, but generally it does

[primal valve]

Repulsion armor gives you 100 armor which is roughly 50% damage reduction.

[slender creek]

Oh thank you

The game does not like to make that clear

[primal valve]

And reflects damage

[slender creek]

Oh i shouldve known

[primal valve]

It is in the Item log

[slender creek]

Works the same in Ror2

[clever rapids]

is it possible that ifrits monsterlog is a lil... buggy? i legit have every log apart from ifrit's... i lost count of how many of these oversized lemurians i killed but it is a lil annoying having not one of them drop a log

[primal valve]

Ifrit (Without artifact of dissonance) is tied for most rare teleporter boss to find since it is Stage Specific. I recommend looping with Artifact of Prestige and Dissonance to increase your chances of finding ifrit. and hitting every Mountain shrine you see

Cremator is Most rare since Dissonance doesn't allow cremators to other stages.

[clever rapids]

i did 2 out of these three things
what does the prestige thing do again?
i did the dissonance and all mountainshrines cause
i mean
i eventually just grow tired after 2 HOURS of THIS

[clever rapids]

cremator i think was like the 4th monster log i got

i just LOOK at bosses and they explode
its just annoying waiting for the slow ass teleporter while holding the primary button for 2 minutes

[primal valve]

Prestige is the perma Mountain Shrine artifact

[clever rapids]

i dont think ive gotten that one yet
i need to get that, the teleporter has been uneventful lately
pilot gets OP real fast

[primal valve]

It is unlocked by getting 15 gold scores on the Providence Trials

[clever rapids]

oh
no wonder i dont have that then
and never will have
some of the provi trials suck

[primal valve]

Here is list on trial dificulty to gold, I think it is reasonably easy to get 15

[molten ravine]

could anyone give me a little hint for what to do with the ||strange battery|| ? I wanna try and solve it on my own but i have no idea where to start

[strong idol]

if you don't mind the spoilers:

[heavy jungle]

"a little hint"

[strong idol]

well it's complex innit? not sure how to tell without straight up telling what to do

[fierce arch]

should have just given him the in game hints decoded prob

[strong idol]

||take it with you to risk of rain, and there go to the location under the map, you can get there through cabin (with that equipment chest), jump down at the edge of the map to the golem, then keep going left across the wall, there you'll find a container (might need some mobility items to get there) and place it there
once you finish that run start a new one on rainstorm or monsoon and on stage2 find a container which has that battery
take it with you
go to stage 3 and there leave the stage between 22:00 and 22:59 so make sure you finish the tp event in time
and on stage 4 you can find something new||

[trim current]

i'm having an issue with multiplayer and stuff but i dunno if theres a rorr tech support thing

[heavy jungle]

Check #1113080759952097340 first and see if it has been reported there

The pinned thread there also has a Google doc with known issues

[woven locust]

tips for unlocking loader skin?

[fierce arch]

@woven locust which one?

[woven locust]

||prism||

[strong idol]

get all the mobility in the world

and probably turn off the new map variants

[woven locust]

ok thanks

[fervent copper]

Pilot/loader for added mobility

[visual oriole]

thanks, i ended up using it to report the bug , thanks!

[hollow arch]

anybody know how to get to this artifact? (im on a late game run so i have a ton of mobility)

[untold nest]

what items have a proc coefficent? i cant see it on the wiki

[heavy jungle]

there's no proc coefficient in rorr

[strong idol]

entrance to there is on the left

[smoky igloo]

Does anybody know the stats for Chef's Cook's temporary items?

Nevermind, it's on the wiki.

[sullen linden]

So for the Articifer multi-kill achievement, what counts as multi-kill? 'cause one use of Flamethrower did not do it

[fierce arch]

kills in 1 frame @sullen linden

[sullen linden]

Oh geez, that'll be a time to get

[heavy jungle]

it's pretty easy with glass artifact

[sullen linden]

I'm assuming some glass/kin feckery yeah, but what attack'd you use?

[heavy jungle]

just flamethrower into a big group of lemurians on a TP with kin

with glass you kill the whole group frame 1 and you should get the unlock

[strong idol]

or you can just use gold plated bomb

[mild sun]

Did you get it? If not I can give you another hint/detail towards it or just straight tell ya lol

[ashen heath]

where do i find the illegal shipment for a white item?

[mild sun]

Do you want an exact answer or more of a hint to it?

Hint/guide that is

[ashen heath]

im tryna 100% so exact answer will be very helpful

[mild sun]

||Contact Light stage, you'll need a keycard, it's a faded out (background) chest in the top left of the rooms that you access. You can push E on the background chest.||

[ashen heath]

thanks!

[sullen linden]

AH beans, it was not worth it

[mint echo]

it was worth it for 100% 😉

[fleet flower]

You don't even need glass. Just crowd up some lemurians, soften em up with a chakram or 2 and throw a charged nanobomb

[candid berry]

If I get a prism in multiplayer, does my friend get it as well

[fleet flower]

set damage dealt to 200% and damage taken to 10% to make it very easy

[zenith garden]

I believe they have to pick it up, same as the logs

[candid berry]

Gotcha

[ancient turtle]

am I correct to suspect that after a certain point (some time around stage 3 onward), Bandit's Lights Out might actually be an overall dps loss because it can only hit 1 target, with a big windup, esp. compared to the whip?

[golden swallow]

how do i do the dont pick up item sniper challenge?

get really good at glass runs?

[fierce arch]

you dont really need a good run tbh, sniper is just op

i could prob beat providance on rainstorm fairly easily with no items with sniper

[golden swallow]

i get overwhelmed cause i can't get their m2 out fast enough

[fierce arch]

backflip works with secondary

[hollow arch]

nope I couldn't figure it out so I just finished out the run lol

a hint would be cool for next time I'm there though

[ancient turtle]

just be careful not to accidentally run into whatever the boss drops

[fierce arch]

turn on command to avoid that

[golden swallow]

oh shit i had no idea that happened

or that thats smart af

[ancient turtle]

yup haha

I couldn't be bothered so I figured I'd just jump over it on my try and man the near-notmiss was not worth it

[fierce arch]

yeah also his alt primary mostly works when charging his secondary

doesn't really make it good

just neat

[golden swallow]

yeah i don’t think i can do alt secondary

it seems awful

[fierce arch]

i mean alt primary but yeah

[golden swallow]

are there any skills in returns that are just straight up better then the original

like acrid and huntress’s teleporting ones seem cool but they just don’t seem that viable for late game

[cerulean python]

Commando: Shotgun
Huntress: Laser cyclone
Bandit: Whip is pretty strong idk if i'd call it universally better tho
Merc: Focused strike
Loader: Alt pylon
Left out some that are probably better but not universally

Also huntress warp dart is pretty good, and acrids alt puddle has its merits. stays out forever, so if you like melee spam you dont have to set it up as often, and can also use it to get back to teleporter instantly after looting

[mild sun]

Sorry just remembered to reply to this after finding time to reply lol ||It's a blue tree... it has roots... I feel like this alone will help a lot. If not feel free to ping me again||

[fierce arch]

huntress pierce is pretty good

id also say warp dart and acrids puddle are better then orig

[hollow arch]

thanks i think with this i can get it, I appreciate the help

[livid garden]

the only skill id call maybe outright better is commando's roll, you never really need to shoot while using your funny i-frame move

all of the others are generally more useful but maybe not directly outclass, like sniper backflip being generally better than his alt but the alt technically giving more vertical mobility

[safe chasm]

how do you get the Like New achievement for Han-D, does 60% health mean full bar or just health as opposed to shield? I thought i did it with shield hearts but it didn't give it to me

[abstract pendant]

how do i get stay in combat for 5 minutes with shield for enforcer?

[safe chasm]

combat just means you're using attacks, finish a level so there's no enemies then sit and attack in shield mode for 5 minutes

boring and tedious, maybe not how they intended but it works

[mild sun]

False

Don't need to attack, just have the enemies attack your shield in a corner

Counts as combat

[abstract pendant]

does attacking work tho?

[safe chasm]

well my way also works, it's how i got it

[mild sun]

Yes but it's far less effective, you can easily have artifact of kin and have an enemy that can't hit you in a corner of a spot and just sit there for 5 mins

No need to click to anything

[abstract pendant]

gotcha ty

[mild sun]

Killing them has a chance to put you out of combat since you could accidentally kill the whole swarm attacking you and end up resetting your 5 min timer

[safe chasm]

which is why my way is 100% guaranteed when you're attacking the air

[mild sun]

Which doesn't make you any different in combat or not than letting them just hit your shield ..

[abstract pendant]

is there a reason why drone recyclers aren’t spawning? i’m co op no artifacts we are almost on our third loop

[strong idol]

seems super bad rng

[woven locust]

dont know if this is the right place but who made the pixel art for rorr?

[woven locust]

they usually spawn on sunken tombs

[boreal stirrup]

RareThistle

Do you all know if there is a way to guarantee a spawn on Ancient valley for Artifact of Glass?

[fierce arch]

@boreal stirrup turn off custom variations

then its just a flip between that and sunken tomb

[boreal stirrup]

spent half an hour trying to get it and it appears I lost the coin flip twice unfortunately

i'll try again tomorrow

there's unfortunately nothing else I can do other than just turn off custom variations?

[strong idol]

turning off new map variants helps

[fierce arch]

idk if artifacts still spawn but you could technically just replace the sunken tomb rorlvl files with ancient valley

[boreal stirrup]

I guess I could but I ain’t about that life

[woven locust]

how does prophet cape stack

[fierce arch]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Prophet's_Cape

[woven locust]

thanks

[iron tangle]

who is this blue imp and why is he in one of the spritesheets in the exported sprites and sounds document in #ror-wiki-discussion

[heavy jungle]

one of imp overlord's tentacle's imp

[sullen linden]

Use command for easy not picking up items

[primal valve]

No items runs are suprisingly rough past stage 3 even for sniper, tho provi himself is relatively easy without items on sniper.

[fierce arch]

i found robomando not much trouble but yeah maybe sniper is harder

[primal valve]

Mostly due to base secondary halving (or is it -60%) per pierce making boarlits really annoying to kill

Might do some alt Secondary runs

[stuck kindle]

the alt secondary is incredibly good

wish it moved very slightly slower

skill issue tbh

[sand island]

Have they put out any info on when a switch patch might come out, or will it still be quite a while?

[pseudo nebula]

why dont the imps talk anymore :c

[heavy jungle]

tbh it's probably a bug cause the lines are still there

[woven locust]

which items are good for mercenary

[ivory tide]

How can I easily unlock Chef alt utility?

[fierce arch]

@ivory tide glass

just wait till 15 lemurians spawn then kill them all

[real garden]

after-image or eviscerate?

[primal valve]

More damage (Afterimage) or Safer damage (Evis)

[brave igloo]

if you return to title does stuff you found save or do i need to sit and wait for 3 hours until i die

[primal valve]

I've heard that they save as you complete them but why not pay provi a visit

[brave igloo]

cause sometimes you can just get stuck in the walls and get fucked over 100 minutes into a run

right nevermind cause the game is totally not jank with walls after 14 minutes of bashing my skull at the wall i got out

[primal valve]

enough speed and you start clipping

[keen vale]

What are the best items to grab with Command as the Sniper?

[primal valve]

Few survivability/mobility items, 100% crit then Crowbars

[keen vale]

How do i know if i got 100% crit chance?

[mild sun]

Doing the math yourself really. Lens makers are 10% base and scale 7% linear from there on. The crit pennies are 3% base and scaling linear. Harvester scythe and Predatory Instincts are only 5% base increase, no scaling stacked. Wicked ring I think is wrong on wiki? It says it's 5% base and scales 10% afterwards though.. that's not what I remember in the games logs..

What I do in command is to just stack a good bit of Lens Makers to make sure I do have 100% lol

[ancient field]

don't forget to assign yourself a role so you can post screenshots (screenshots are pog)

[pulsar mason]

Is corrosive wounds viable?

I gave it a few runs just now and I kind of get the flow but it feels super high risk, high reward

[cerulean python]

it scales really well in my experience

[pulsar mason]

Like, I would rather just use festering wounds lol

[cerulean python]

ive had runs where my drones and ice crystal and puddle and all the other dmg sources u accumulate over a run benefitting from the stacks let me just hold jump and primary and win

[solid vale]

Do we know when console is getting an update to fix some of the bugs?

[hazy shoal]

anybody know how many times Artificer’s burn from Flamethrower ticks on an enemy?

[solid vale]

I think its like 8 or 10

[fierce arch]

there are 12 procs

i think there are 12 fire ticks also

they overlap though so you cant really tell if you have multiple fire procs

[hazy shoal]

yea its a bit tough

gonna see if i can hit an enemy just once and count

ty though!

[solid vale]

I was just about to do that 😂

[hazy shoal]

yea i think its 12 lol

[solid vale]

Yeah I got that too

Flamethrower hits 10 times flame burns for 12

[fierce arch]

i think its 12 times but ill confirm ig

[fierce arch]

yeah flamethrower hits 12 times

[solid vale]

Wait are you meaning incinerator or flamethrower? Incinerator goes for 12

Flamethrower is 10x80% with the ignition stacks and incinerator is 12x100% with ignition stacks

[fierce arch]

nope

game lied both are 12

descriptions are not your friends dont trust them

[solid vale]

My life a lie 😭

Thanks for pointing that out tho mb

[fossil wing]

Hey you guys, do you have a favorite boss theme in a game? Any game?

[timid badger]

depends on what you consider a 'boss theme'
anyway 'the death that i deservioli' is pretty good

[fossil wing]

Well, the main theme of a boss, the one that plays during the boss fight ig

Or that is played whenever the boss is present

[fossil wing]

Cool name btw

[timid badger]

is that necessary to your goals or just a general trait of the music

[fossil wing]

I don't understand?

Ig both

I'm just wondering what people like in boss themes

[timid badger]

idk the definition of boss is very loose sometimes

[fossil wing]

It can be yes

[timid badger]

for example the track i mentioned plays during the escape sequence of every level in a game, which is always comes with a tense adrenaline rush
i'd call it a boss track without a boss per se

[fossil wing]

Hmm idk cuz there's no boss

You know

[hazy shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI5V_8RErzI&pp=ygUFT1JERVI%3D

bit of recency bias but man

really really good track

[fierce arch]

prob hollow knights mantis lords theme, but also not rorr related

[cerulean coral]

Do we know what the drop chance of items is with Sacrifice turned on?

[crisp ore]

I R E A L L Y love Double F!$%ing Rainbow Returns.
yes i read the two words "any game" at the end i just R E A L L Y love that boss theme

oh wait i forgot about hollow knight's themes

[cerulean python]

sealed vessel 😩

[crisp ore]

pure vessel 😩

[tender gazelle]

i guess recently i would say "encounter elite!" from sea of stars

[restive mica]

Hey I ran into this while doing a teleporter even and I wanted to know if anyone could shed some light on what this area is

idk if its a spoiler but just a heads up

[zenith garden]

if you get a role you can post freely

[restive mica]

Lol

Thank you

[wide breach]

What do the mines that Judgement Han-D clones poop out even do

I've had the entire level carpeted with those tiny knobs and they don't feel like a threat

[wide breach]

https://youtu.be/PuU9Rxi_vyY

Border of Life

[fossil wing]

Yeah it's very good

[fossil wing]

Me too

Thx for sharing everyone, I'm gonna give them a listen

[lethal hornet]

enter the void from the yo! noid 2 ost

[primal valve]

They explode for some damage, however they deactivate once the umbra that dropped them dies.

[wide breach]

Right, and I'm guessing residual mines are supposed to be a bug then

[heavy jungle]

Yup

[leaden storm]

Just figured out you can cheese the chef primary achievement (have 20 out at once) with no items by just getting the marble equipment place it at one end of the map go to the other then use buffed primary throw like 3 individuals then tp and they stay out until they reach you which gives enough time to buff and throw a second one

[zenith garden]

same with shattered mirror, it just throws a copy of the boosted attack

[heavy jungle]

Shattered is how I accidentally unlocked it

[restive nacelle]

aaand now i'm softlocked

the game could really use a button to reset

aerobatics - never again

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-out-gif-18252480

[idle moth]

how did this happen

[heavy jungle]

Aerobatics wavedashing (or just aerobatics with enough movespeed I guess)

[restive nacelle]

as elbry said, aero + movespeed

still trying to aero out of there

[idle moth]

😢

[restive nacelle]

stick to the parachute

[idle moth]

i do tbh ...

free invulnerability because the enemies cant look up

[restive nacelle]

the imp is slapping out all the money out of the enemies

I GOT OUT YEEEEEEES

[ivory verge]

is the challenge for killing the overloading magma worm as Loader bugged or something

[heavy jungle]

I don't think so?

[supple rain]

No

I recently did it 2 days ago and got the unlock

If that's what you mean by "bugged"

[ivory verge]

I got it now but I had to do it again

probably because I died right after the first time

[pallid basalt]

What year comes the next update?

[mild sun]

how do you get character skin capes?

[sullen linden]

From getting a Prophet's Cape

[stuck kindle]

Anyone know what causes the hitlist crash? I accidentally picked it up and i'd like to avoid it lol

[primal valve]

It happens when it targets enemy that shouldn't be targetable.

[stuck kindle]

Like what? a happiest mask ghost?

[primal valve]

Only time it happened to me was on magma worm burrow have head some got it agains lynx totem somehow.

[pastel heart]

For the Amplified achievement, is the lazer drone enough? Since i cant seam to find a "beam drone" and yes i am playing engineer

[heavy jungle]

no, you need a beam drone

you can either find one laying around or combine 3 laser drones

[vivid mist]

If you have the ||robomando||, you can wake a bunch of drones up for free and just combine them together once the fusion machines start showing up.

[heavy jungle]

you need to play as engineer to unlock the skill

[vivid mist]

Oh snap, I remembered incorrectly DX

I guess I just love the little guy so much, it pops up in my head for everything haha

[golden swallow]

is artificer's pulse spear worth it

[pastel heart]

thanks

[vivid mist]

The spear is fun to use if you can time the pulses

[pastel heart]

Loop 4 (5?) and still just 1 lazer

[vivid mist]

That sucks. Bad luck. 😒

[cerulean python]

its bugged right now its supposed to stun when u pulse and not when you dont, but it does the opposite. damage wise its fine, 450% per pulse and u can spam it a lot when hordes get big, but itll feel a lot better when fixed

[golden swallow]

how’s the miniature sun?

[livid garden]

sun has a lot of skill variance, you either suck at it or know how to use it

think of it as a supplement to primary fire damage to start, and you can get more creative later

[vivid mist]

It's extremely strong and you have to use it from a safe spot and know what to you it -- but you're kinda SOL if an enemy spawns right on top of you

[livid garden]

as your sole damage source it kinda falls off later, but you can just keep using it to destroy less mobile foes you don't wanna get near

i.e. spamming it against a stage 5 overloading lynx totem for 4 minutes (a valid strategy)

one tip i have for using it is hold primary fire while moving it if you don't wanna run off too far

[cerulean python]

its actually artis best scalimg damage option so if u get good on hits you can rely on it really heavily. chakrams scale horribly in comparison, and secondary is fine but has cds

[livid garden]

that's true, it's moreso using it as a long range option slashes the uptime a lot

[cerulean python]

oh this is what u meant lol

yeah thatll take a while

[livid garden]

so you're either using it short range and using the chakrams alongside it anyway or using it long range with lowered uptime

[cerulean python]

since yall are here, you prefer it with wall or tec surge?

[livid garden]

i haven't tested some of the spicier tech with tec surge sun arti

because i didn't really use the whole platform part of it at all

[vivid mist]

It would feel way better if I could jump and pause myself mid-air to control the sun sometimes.

[livid garden]

that would be nice, but then you wouldn't be able to use other abilities when using the sun

[vivid mist]

Sometimes I'd like to use the sun from a safe spot to help keep up on later loops.

Yeah

[livid garden]

which is half of its appeal

[vivid mist]

Also yeah. I have very mixed feelings about the sun. I want to love it.

Arti in general, I want to love. It just feels kinda ehhh

[cerulean python]

when i use it with wall i find that during tele event the spawn rate often leaves me having to abandon the wall and with sun providing no safety its rough.

i just wish i had flamer to hover with in thos moments

[livid garden]

force yourself to play arti a bunch so it becomes a hostage situation where you start liking her

that's how i started liking arti

wall sun is kinda annoying because it's the least mobile arti

but on the other hand wall + sun works pretty well together offensively

[cerulean python]

u can use other abilities with tec surge sun its just harder/less common. i mean tec surge+sun is already two, for taller enemies you can throw chakrams standing on the plat while sun is below u, theoretically you could throw pulse spear first and pulse it as you set up plat, but i run nano until pulse gets fixed so idk

[livid garden]

oh i meant

a hypothetical where you could hold yourself in the air and control sun while standing still

that was separate from the surge + sun stuff

[cerulean python]

oh i see

you can kinda do that with hopoo since it prolongs the antigrav a ton and yeah it leaves you kinda just floating there moving sun only

might be able to pulse spear beforehand still maybe though thats a lot of mental lol

[livid garden]

pulse spear is sorta inconsistent in general

even if it did stun on pulse id rather use nano bomb

[cerulean python]

its best when the crowds get big and u can just mash it on dense parts of hordes

[vivid mist]

I'm just a three or four achievements away from 100%-ing the game. I've played arti a lot. It's a lot of busy-work for roughly the same or less payout as the other classes, is how I feel. It's a shame because I want to love the "mage" class the most.

[livid garden]

yeah you could probably say that about her tbh

ive soured a bit on engi myself but maybe that's just me forcing myself to make laser turret work in multiplayer

(laser turret does not work in multiplayer, it needs you to have all the defensive items)

[vivid mist]

Meanwhile, you can just yeet yourself across the map and rain down death as pilot and it's almost effortless XD

[cerulean python]

tbh i might be finding myself preferring flamer these days, as wall+sun is meh to me and tec surge puts a lot of emphasis on sun. some cool setups with the right situation like i said but often times for me it really is just standing on the plat or floating in the air while sun does the work, and wall + flamer just feels more active in comparison

[vivid mist]

The alt turret feels -awful- in mp

[livid garden]

as broken as he probably is i still respect pilot's design because he's the frailest character and it definitely feels like they put thought into how his kit interacts with the game

he's kinda like the "anti-people complaining about stuff they hate in rorr" character

i.e. he can get around the map quickly and kill flying enemies

[vivid mist]

Pilot is very amusing. You can't mess up, but he's unbelievably good.

[livid garden]

but he's far from a brainless character imo

[vivid mist]

If you use the alt ability dash while holding jump, you can rocket across half the map. It's hilarious.

[stuck kindle]

he's very easy once you get the hang of him but I don't think he's brainless

[vivid mist]

He isn't brainless. Just really, really, really high payoff for the effort you put in.

[stuck kindle]

huntress is kinda brainless

being able to move and shoot trivalizes the game

[livid garden]

you kinda gotta separate cyclone builds with every other huntress build when saying that

[stuck kindle]

i disagree

1111 huntress is super brainless

[vivid mist]

Versus arti, where you have to be running on all cylinders at all times to be mediocre XD

[livid garden]

the hardest part of regular huntress is shooting your items in the wrong direction (happens every time)

[stuck kindle]

2111 maybe not

[livid garden]

me watching my thqwibs sail off to the right to hit nothing

[hollow lake]

How do i lower the shooting sounds?

SFX?

[vivid mist]

Should be

[hollow lake]

Its crashing my game

Im playing on the switch

[cerulean python]

ive thought this too, figured both pilot and drifter were in part designed to directly combat the things new people might struggle with. pilot can shoot diagonally which helps a ton with flying enemies, parachute makes kiting intuitive, drifters bag almost always staggers, she gets free items so you dont struggle as much if ur not good at looting yet

[pastel heart]

FINALY i am going to finish this run to get the stats

[vivid mist]

The two of them are favorites of friends new to the series, so I could see that.

[pastel heart]

Had a nice pace of 1 lazer drone per hour

[vivid mist]

Did you finally get it?

[north lance]

Hey all, i'm sure this has been asked quite a lot but what is the attack speed cap like in rorR?

I have played using Huntress using the "select item" artifact before and I felt like i hit a cap with less than 20 syringe?

-visually

[gray cosmos]

did they release the mouse shooting yet?

[wise patio]

Wrong channel sorry

[worthy gorge]

What is required for in game 100% and is it gold ranking every prov trial

[fierce arch]

anything in log book section that does not have a gold border

so ||no prisms, no robo, no gold(besides artifact), no judgement, no boar beech||

[worthy gorge]

Oh shit this means stage logs doesn't it

Well back to the grind then

[unkempt arrow]

whats the highest amount of points you could get after a run ends? is it the integer bit limit

[mild sun]

what of the toxic beast actually damages you ?

[zenith garden]

The slams on its front feet, in time with its animation

[white forge]

is there anything different about captain's brooch chests other than the cost

[strong idol]

just cost

[green tiger]

Most likely yes

[pulsar mason]

Anyone else getting really unbalanced runs in monsoon?

I just went through the first 2 stages and died because none of the chests I opened had any healing items

I was also playing Acrid which made that 10x harder because I have to keep entering combat to get any value

[astral ibex]

Thats Just RNG

[pulsar mason]

This has probably been said a billion times, but that rarely ever felt like the case in RoR2 because you'd at least be able to locate some sort of hp regen item or shield

[astral ibex]

I think there is less healing items than ror2

[primal valve]

Variance is a real thing

[strong idol]

you had heart tho

[elder patrol]

Nah lmao, healing in RoRR is plenty and more potent than 2

Except Medkit, it's worse

[primal valve]

Also Healing often feels less impactful in RoR1/R since most of it is flat healing instead of % based that RoR2 has

[pulsar mason]

True

Monster tooth feels a lot less potent

Another thing is scarcity of chests depending on where you spawn in the map

[primal valve]

But yeah in general loot density is relatively lower in returns/1

[slender creek]

how did you die there wtf

thats some crazy items

[pulsar mason]

Because I kept getting sniped by greater whisps and had no healing to back me up lol

[slender creek]

greater wisps

that would do it

[livid garden]

if you're playing acrid you never actually have to get close to the enemy to accomplish anything, smart usage of your utility and special can suffice

[mild sun]

the reason i don't bother with RNG runs and use pick your item artifact, so many runs you just get useless items that don't fit your playstyle/character or limit your ability to engage certain enemies, like trying to deal with flying enemies when you have no double or triple jump is just a nightmare

[pulsar mason]

That's completely valid lmao

And ngl the thought did strike me earlier

"why tf do I bother going rng"

[mild sun]

what, you dont like your triple stack electrified rope and 5x piggy banks?

i remember using the item drop chest that grants extra items as your equipment in judgement trial and getting stuff like piggy bank, increased movement speed when enabling teleporter when there is no god dam teleporter, the RNG is just pain in this game

[uneven hound]

Hi guys! How can I get more logs to unlock other variants? Some stages that I can't access other variants

That it's the same variants

[mild sun]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3081681634&searchtext=log

[heavy jungle]

you don't have to unlock logs to access variants

you go on a variant and you pick up the log there

but there is no way to control which variant of a stage you'll get, you're only able to deactivate new variants (that weren't in RoR1)

[slender creek]

But also the rng is the spirit of the game

Every run is different, you have to adapt

[mild sun]

of course, that's the point of roguelike genre, but the way the game is currently balanced, it's just not fun doing RNG runs for me personally

[slender creek]

Yeah command is def great for just having some fun runs, like a bunch of heaven crackers on commando

I just like having the rng to keep me on my toes in the average run

[mild sun]

i get destroyed in 99% of monssoon runs, yet can clear it at good success rates when i pick my items

[slender creek]

And this game is def much less rng dependent than ror2

[slender creek]

I hate to say it but skill issue

That just comes with practice

Consistency

[mild sun]

eh, more so getting items that dont fit my playstyle and character

melee characters are hard enough to play as is

[slender creek]

You just gotta roll with it is the thing

Most melee characters are broken

Loader has insane iframes

Do does merc

Insane damage

Drifter is drifter

[mild sun]

yeah, dont enjoy those character, but agree, loader is very easy with his invulnerability

[slender creek]

And yeah it all depends

On wether you want consistent runs or a constant challenge

[golden swallow]

should i be using glass to unlock pred insticts

[mild sun]

i would call it an annoyance rather than a challenge lol

[slender creek]

I myself play a lot of hardcore rogues so i do it that way

[mild sun]

like getting swarmed by 40 flying monsters and having 0 items to help with killing them, thats just annoying

[slender creek]

No thats where the challenge is

[slender creek]

Yes

And 2x damage game rule

[golden swallow]

forgot about game rules

what's the unlock for chargefield generator? is it different from locked jewel

[slender creek]

Just play merc

[mild sun]

theres a reason why this game lost like 90% of its playerbase within a few weeks lol

[slender creek]

And kill enemies with evisc

[slender creek]

Oh?

[mild sun]

just read the most helpful negative reviews on steam

lots of ppl complaining about annoyances ofthe game, difficulty, etc

[slender creek]

Those people just dont want to play a roguelike

[mild sun]

lol and you came to that conclusion how?

why would they buy a rogelike if they dont want to play a roguelike, makes no sense lol

[golden swallow]

it's not just that, a few character's skills just are bugged and don't feel good to play

[slender creek]

The game just came out guys.

Theyre working on it

[mild sun]

and thats fine, but not a valid reason to discredit critism

[golden swallow]

i'm not saying they arent, but some issues are legitimate reasons why someone who likes rougelikes wouldn't want to play the game

[slender creek]

People who complain about rng dont get the very core of the game

[mild sun]

i have like 10 other roguelikes and the RNG is far more fun in those games

like i said, when your success with dealing with certain enemy types relies on RNG, thats not fun

[golden swallow]

yeah like overloading wyrms are run enders for a lot of characters without the right setup

[slender creek]

Birds and bugs both have ways to deal with them without items universally

You just need to learn the game more

[mild sun]

yeah, you can loop around and try to blame "skill issue" all you want... the playerbase huge decline speaks for itself

and i already told you i have no issue beating them when i pick my items, just when i get shit items, its a nightmare

[slender creek]

Skill issue

Hit birds when they dive, and hit archer bugs when they line up to your character

Bc they do that

[mild sun]

or you know, when theres 80 enemies on the ground and 40 flying, its not that simple

youre talking like im dying 1v1 to a bird lol

[slender creek]

run and jump, kite them until you have an opening

[mild sun]

funny you keep saying skill issue, but ive cleared every challenge in the game, including the judgement trials

[slender creek]

you need to be patient

[mild sun]

but hey, whatever makes you feel better

[slender creek]

just dont complain about the way the game is supposed to work

in ror2 this is valid

but in this game everything can be done much less reliant on items

[golden swallow]

an issue with the game i've noticed newer players complain about is how slow characters move vs how big the stages are

like in 2 a lot of characters could have the illusion of moving faster with movement skills but thats not really communicated as well in returns

[slender creek]

stage size varies a lot lol

thats a bit of an issue

[mild sun]

i personally didnt even like 2, played for like 10hrs and never gain

[slender creek]

some stages are just objectively worse

[mild sun]

when did i complain about how the game should work?

i just said i dont find RNG runs fun in their current state lol

and explained why

[golden swallow]

yeah like the mountain stage is awful

[slender creek]

damp caverns, ancient valley, and hive cluster are all very universally disliked

[mild sun]

i loved RNG in games like wizard of legened, synthetik, gunfire reborn, downwell, crawl, etc

its just not fun to me in this game

[pulsar mason]

How do you guys use Loader's primary alt, btw? Are you meant to group a bunch of enemies together to get a big multi-kill?

[golden swallow]

hive cluster sucks and i only get hive cluster

[slender creek]

not really sure

[slender creek]

its kinda just worse than knuckleboom

[pulsar mason]

There aren't any guides for RoRR loader, sadly

[slender creek]

but pair it with the atk speed beacon

to make it charge fast

[pulsar mason]

So whenever I try her charge punch, it just seems like a weaker version of Miner's drill

[stuck kindle]

Bullet punch is pretty fun

it makes your uses of invincibility more intentional

[young yarrow]

Does the game support keyboard and mouse on switch ?

[signal quarry]

Teleporter Bosses may no longer drop Equipment.
How do i get nematocyst nozzle now, then O_O

[quaint quartz]

can i open sniper's "siiick" achievement in judgement?

[full mica]

Does anyone know if and when the newest patch for the game will come to switch?

[heavy jungle]

#risk-of-rain-returns message

[warm tapir]

i asked bizz a couple mins ago, he said he doesnt know because nintendo take time off for the holidays and they are waiting on them essentially

[novel garnet]

so a bug (that I assume was found by others) where mercenary using the counter skill would be sort of stuck in the frame about to attack without actually attacking was plaguing me whenever I played merc with friends. is it fixed? can I play merc and use the really fun counter slash thing now?

[feral vapor]

when will these patches be added to switch?

[heavy jungle]

please read like 15 centimeters above before asking

[feral vapor]

sorry, but thank you

[slender creek]

No, achievements cant be completed in trials

[proud peak]

Ye when nintendo feels like it from what ive seen

[quaint quartz]

[slender creek]

Drones make it easy to do

As well as a solid damage equipment

[leaden storm]

Thqwib

[slender creek]

Dml, nozzle, doll

[wet cape]

What's the quickest way to get the achievement for exploding the enemies with the money bomb

[strong idol]

kin, reroll for something like wisps, use command for bomb

get on a rope and wait till they pile up

[upper lynx]

Wait so decaying sample was broken before?
Does this mean it can be a viable build now?

Like engineer plus 3 turrents = 8 decaying sample satellites on screen that actually does notable damage

I can't test it atm as im at work right now

[acoustic kraken]

would setting damage really high work too

[strong idol]

probably but you won't really need that

[past oak]

YEAH UHM WHY'D MY SETTINGS GET SET TO DEFAULT?? ERMM HOTPOO EXPLAIN

[primal valve]

There are additional binds to aim directions

For controllers right stick is default didn't check other control schemes

Could be, everything is rebindable to make stuff more comfortable.

[sterile horizon]

honestly the way aiming worked before wasn't bad anyways, just had to adjsut a bit

wouldn't say it makes a huge difference

[primal valve]

Robomando gets massive buff with it

But overall it is nice to have and not too needed

[sterile horizon]

does robomando have mouse aiming support??

that breaks his whole gimmick of not strafe shooting does it not? lmao

[heavy jungle]

it kinda does lol

[jovial field]

I wouldn't say that's his "gimmick"
not to mention that it's still the worst primary in the game, even with that buff

[sterile horizon]

I mean he's the only character that works like that

so its sorta his own gimmick

[heavy jungle]

big Robo buff

[sterile horizon]

thats insane LMAO

[heavy jungle]

(he doesn't shoot that fast normally)

[sterile horizon]

wait he shoots faster now??

[jovial field]

woah wtf

[sterile horizon]

[jovial field]

that looks almost unintentional

[sterile horizon]

robomando now the best character in the game

[heavy jungle]

no I have charges on his primary

[sterile horizon]

ohhhh

lol

[heavy jungle]

actual speed

[sterile horizon]

oh yeah that looks more correct

[heavy jungle]

sorry lol

[sterile horizon]

I cannot believe he can strafe now

the goat is even better

[heavy jungle]

strafing is kinda huge tho yeah

[sterile horizon]

I feel like its gonna get removed for him

but for now I can enjoy

[urban olive]

is there a way to see what your items that you already have do in an online game?

[primal valve]

Mousing over your items gives the short descriptions

Also can mouse over others items with this menu can't remember the bind on non controllers but on controllers it is holding doen Left stick

[urban olive]

this doesn't work in online

[primal valve]

The menu should work if that doesn't

[urban olive]

the menu works, but you still can't see descriptions of anyone's items by mousing over them

[primal valve]

Hmm possible bug it should work to my knowledge, haven't played much multiplayer

[urban olive]

idk if it's a bug tbh lol it's never been a thing even in the original ror1

only in offline modes

[warm apex]

it works for some of my friends but not for me

strange bug, maybe host related

[wet cape]

Is there any particular way to kill providence while backflipping?

[barren tulip]

Damage over time, sticky grenades etc. Easiest probably the doll active item.

[warm apex]

drones can also do it iirc

[zenith garden]

And you have three tries as each phase counts

[barren tulip]

Anything that can deal damage while you are mid roll animation will work

[final isle]

How do you get to that chest on the Final stage?
This is at the beginning with the 4 corridors on the left. The bridge is directly to the right of this chest

[cerulean python]

in the room above there is a stack of shipping containers. on the platform above those theres a hidden rope to climb down

[final isle]

Found it👌

'preciate it

[lost timber]

THIS MUST BE FIXED.

HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO STRAFE

[livid spear]

should the setting names look like this?

[heavy jungle]

you have a custom lang file so it didn't get properly updated

[livid spear]

ah ok

[dusty glade]

Any word on when 1.0.4 will be updated on switch ?

[primal valve]

#risk-of-rain-returns message

Basically once Nintendo certs the update

[kind mango]

anyone know what this means? just got this crash report

[cerulean python]

all i can guess is some interaction with this guy https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Bramble and acid bubble went very wrong

[warped adder]

question
why are my steam achievements not showing? did I lose my save or something? it's warning me not to play cause cloud save is also not syncing even though it says up to date

nvm it fixed itself

[slender creek]

I got one like that but with something related to audio

[misty quest]

how do you enable mouse aim?

[sour valve]

in controols settings

why cant 'left/right' and 'aim left/right' be the same key?

why would anyone want a different input

[heavy jungle]

if you don't assign anything left or right make you aim the way you look by default

why would you want this

[sour valve]

i want to be able to switch directions too

mid attack

isnt that what the mouse aim lets us do?

[heavy jungle]

no, you still need to stop attacking

[ashen heath]

i saw they did the update but did they remove the pilot wavedash thing?

nvm i just got it

still in the game

[cerulean python]

do you? im not releasing primary here, maybe im misunderstanding the question

it has to wait for the animation of a shot to finish i think before it lets him switch directions but i dont have to release for that to happen

[heavy jungle]

seems to be survivor specific

for bandit you need to stop

[cerulean python]

"Added the ability to turn while using the Primary Skill if the fire button was briefly released. This change does not apply to Bandit or Artificer due to their skills already interacting uniquely with button mashing."
yeah thats on purpose i guess

[sour valve]

i feel like im giong insane. isnt the whole point of adding this so that we arent locked into an attack direction? if thats the case, why have players input different keys when we already have controls that change where we aim

[cerulean python]

wish this wasn't the case if you have rapid fire on for bandit since when you have it on its the exact same as commando yet works differently

[heavy jungle]

https://discord.com/channels/417739215355510784/1113085067716214825 maybe request the possibility to bind these controls on the same key :/

I agree it kinda sucks for pure keyboard players

[glass oyster]

Is there a way to reenable Risk of Rain 2 controls in this new update? Cant find the option in the menu

[cerulean python]

i believe if you click "reset to default" or whatever that button says itll give you the prompt to choose your control type again

[glass oyster]

Thank you so much, that worked

[prime reef]

hiw di u turn on mouse aim?

[proud summit]

should be in controls

in settings

[prime reef]

nvm, got it figured out

you need to set it to ror2 controls

[barren frigate]

Does multiple Arms Race do anything? I thought it'd give another drone, but it does not.

[heavy jungle]

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Arms_Race

[stuck kindle]

can loader grapple to acrid bubble

[elder patrol]

Nope

[stuck kindle]

Damn

[nocturne light]

HELP ALL MY PROGRESS DISAPPEARED

WTF I CANT CHANGE IT

s

DID I MISS AN ANNOUNCE OR SUM

PLS I NEED MY STUFF BACK

[stuck kindle]

There's a save file editor

so you can edit back whatever unlocks you had

(:

shouldn't be too hard

[nocturne light]

it doesnt work

the save edutirs dont do anything

unless you have one tat works

[livid garden]

????

[blissful pulsar]

Where does Mercenary currently sit on the Tier list of survivors

just curious

[livid garden]

top 4

or something like that

[blissful pulsar]

Really?
Is there some kind of secret sauce to his moveset (no alternates) or am I missing something

[livid garden]

well a lot of it is his alternates

but in his base kit eviscerate has really good range and keeps him safe for a while

if you have merc you can go pick up his parry, it really helps him

[slender creek]

parry is the reason he is one of the best

[blissful pulsar]

I'm mostly trying to do his providence Judgement trial and I'm just like
"Are we sure we need to complain about artificer?"

[livid garden]

um

[slender creek]

artificer is the best

[livid garden]

you never specified judgement

merc's the hardest character for that

...probably

[slender creek]

yeah fs

[livid garden]

except mayyyybe robomando without brooch abuse and even that's questionable

little guy's fast

[slender creek]

brooch abuse?

[blissful pulsar]

Well
whether its judgement or not
his base moveset feels

stubby
Minus eviscerate of course it feels like i'm never safe

[slender creek]

i never used any brooch

[livid garden]

spamming Captain's Brooch in the waiting room as robo

[slender creek]

robomando wasnt too hard

[slender creek]

oooooh captains brooch

not topaz mb

[blissful pulsar]

Also is the third hit of Merc's primary combo like
a very selective stun

[slender creek]

yeah i found him in like medium difficulty

[blissful pulsar]

Sometimes it interupts the enemy's attack
sometimes it doesnt

[slender creek]

medium to easy

[livid garden]

nah, it's just the strongest hit in the attack so it staggers a bit more

staggering is based on how much max hp you're doing in damage

[blissful pulsar]

does
does the tool tip not specify that the second and third hits deal more damage??

[livid garden]

wait i dunno if they actually do

ok so what you're gonna wanna do is

kill the three lemurians up top and ignore the volatiles first, this'll get you to level 2

at lv2 your primary staggers the volatiles

[blissful pulsar]

it just says
3 enemies in front of you for 130% damage

also
only 3 enemies at a time shouldn't be a thing if miner and HAN-D dont have to deal with it

[livid garden]

then, play carefully around the stone golems

[blissful pulsar]

also good to know for future attempts

[livid garden]

go for the wisps first

[slender creek]

the 3 is fake

im pretty sure

[blissful pulsar]

.
huh

did
did they just
never update the text?

[slender creek]

yeah

theres a lotta that

[blissful pulsar]

I did notice typos here and there that were also present in OG ROR1

[slender creek]

just look at the wiki

for stuff

[blissful pulsar]

Oh my goddddd

im grateful to know this now but i feel lied to

[slender creek]

weve been doing a pretty good job at keeping abilities up to date

https://riskofrainreturns.wiki.gg/wiki/Risk_of_Rain_Returns_Wiki

[blissful pulsar]

god bless the wiki

and its contributors

[slender creek]

amen

i should ask on how to actually edit pages

i never learned

id love to help

feel bad letting elby do all the work

[blissful pulsar]

update: Mercenary's judgement Is done

Unstable Watch my Beloved

[oak kernel]

Does Han-D saw count as on hit?

[flat vale]

what does revisiting previous levels mean?
like can i still go to the final level after?

[thorny vine]

how do u dodge bisons? i feel like if the game doesnt give u any jump or movement items you kinda just have to take the L with them

[upper merlin]

Yes, it spawns the special teleporter on every stage in the run after that

Also

Do we know why the devs removed mashing jump to go faster on ropes?

I really liked that, and it counteracts being able to jump off and re-grab at the last second

[quartz flare]

I just had 2 magma worms spawn on tp at 9mins and only one of them was treated as the stage boss is this like normal

[lime abyss]

are you meant to loop back to ancient valley every time you go to boar beach?

[coral wigeon]

where's the illegal shipment?

[lime abyss]

on the contact light ||in the storage room in a "fake" background chest on the left||

[sand island]

The big crystal equipment is so busted on engineer in Judgment

Took the sceptre as my first item, and while the first two stages are really hard, after that I had near constant up time for three turrets

it made providence a joke, they really shouldn't have put time keepers secret in the last item pool lol

[spiral hawk]

anyway to bind aim left and aim right as the same keys as move left and move right. Whenever I try to change the binds to changes the other key. I.E if I try to bind aim left D it changes move left to another key automatically

[tender gazelle]

it didnt really have any reason to exist, they made default rope speed faster to compensate

[lime abyss]

bad for the hands, and yeah faster speed anyway

[old pewter]

and its less fun

[fleet flower]

Nope, I've definitely went to sunken tomb once

[primal valve]

Yes
#risk-of-rain-returns message

[primal valve]

There was earlier Timekeeppers aswell specifically 1 stage after getting amethyst

[rocky fog]

do characters have passives

[green tiger]

I guess some do, such as Miner or HAN-D (I think)

[rocky fog]

whats the miner passive/

[green tiger]

Heat mechanic which empowers his other abilities after using his primary enough

[primal valve]

Technically no, but some have characteristics in abilities that makes them behave kind of like passives, main example is huntress being able to move relatively well using all her skills. And Miner having heat generating that alters how his skills work, and Drifter having Resource bar

[green tiger]

can HAN-D’s drones technically be classed as a passive?

[primal valve]

Technically yeah

[upper merlin]

Thank you

[balmy talon]

can atg missile mk 2 proc atg mk1 and vice versa

[elder patrol]

No

Proc chain doesn't exist in 1 nor Returns

[fierce arch]

repulsion armor, and fire shield can proc but no chain to be had

[heavy jungle]

not repulsion armor iirc

nvm yes repulsion armor

[south mauve]

Is there any ETA on patches for the Switch?

[tender gazelle]

whenever nintendo gets the update through

the devs can't really do anything to make it quicker

[scenic plank]

did the rorr gonna have a steamworkshop for mods?

[elder patrol]

Eventually

[scenic plank]

i am exciting to see starstorm

maybe starstorm 3?

[elder patrol]

Idk

NK said it would probably not be the same

[scenic plank]

hmm

[heavy jungle]

starstorm returns is a better name

[scenic plank]

ye

true

[cursive thorn]

I just wanna mod my fursona in the game like the furry I am

[scarlet ember]

do you guys stand on scrap cube while hitting it or just push it forward?

[sullen linden]

Whenever cert happens, 'cause that takes a time

[sullen linden]

In the trial I did when neccesary, but I don't use cubes in normal runs

[wispy mason]

since the update, is everyone missing other control schemes? i can't select the jkl'-one / there is only the default arrow-key-control

[rocky fog]

are there any mods?

[proud peak]

Yes

[heavy jungle]

no

[proud peak]

Well at least not really released mods

[heavy jungle]

no mods at all

[silver raptor]

What's the best way to get an achievement for gold bomb multi-kill?
I do the usual artifacts and settings, but the blast never seems to kill anyone.
Perhaps I have not enough money for killing damage, but still.

[cerulean python]

you could use command to get smart shopper, crit + razor penny, piggy bank etc. all i can think of

[clever rapids]

never have i gotten a multishop with a red item in it

[scenic cosmos]

so whats like your default with modern controls?

for switching sides

for me its shift and ctrl

[primal valve]

Those are Judgement trial items

[clever rapids]

oh i dont play providence trials
which
makes it bullshit that most items are locked behind those stupid challenges

[trim shuttle]

Any clue on an estimate for compatibility?

[heavy jungle]

no info to my knowledge, just that devs will add mod support eventually

[trim shuttle]

Cool

[primal flare]

@rotund trellis you should add a shoot left and shoot right key bind to your left and right arrow keys so you don’t need to use a mouse for mouse aim and have a control experience similar to the binding of Issac for players with that preference.

Wasd = move. left and right arrow keys = shoot left and right basically.

[mild sun]

you can rebind them to the arrow keys on the control settings

ah

I misread

[primal flare]

Yeah like binding commando primary to left and right

[mild sun]

it would be complicated though, considering you have 4 skills

[primal flare]

I was thinking of binding other abilities to q r and shift

The other binds could be personal preference

Thought it was a neat idea since I like tboi’s control scheme and would be cool to have those kinds of binds in ror returns

[leaden storm]

The way i did it was command+ glass then played on drizzle i went the [redacted] character to save as much money as possible grinded to like 400 coins (turn other whites into like life savings) then hit tp kill boss jump around until tp is done drop bomb and kill like 20 enemies

[loud hawk]

What resolution/zoom is the most viable?

[blazing sleet]

how do i change the controls back to what they were before the mouse update so id shoot in the direction i was moving

[slender creek]

ok so yk how i said hand was the easiest judgement of my life

ignore that

huntress.

wicked ring = infinite skills

and i never really realized how good normal glaive is even though cyclone exists

[primal valve]

Room 3 amethyst room 4 Timekeepers Engi is really close

Could possibly do turret only engi run

Tho it's be amethyst first pick to make first 2 stages bareable

[sand island]

engi amethyst makes it so free, you have near constant turret up time

[slender creek]

oh that one was funny too

[pallid relic]

Is acrid located on all variants of sunken tomb

[cerulean python]

only the first 3 (old ones, not the new ones)

iirc at least. i know for sure the 3 old ones have him and some if not all new ones dont

[pallid relic]

So if I turn off new map variants

Guaranteed to fight him

[cerulean python]

yep

[jovial field]

gauranteed if you get sunken tombs in the first place

[wet cape]

Can the pot with the robomando battery spawn if you have artifacts enabled? I've gotten to that point on drizzle many times and it's never there

[tender gazelle]

dont use sacrifice

[wet cape]

Thanks!

[old snow]

how do you deal with blue elite as melee

[slender creek]

which kinds?

a lot of them have a whole host of invulnerability tools

[old snow]

i mean how am i supposed to hit any of em if i cant get close to it

tho if i had to mention a survivor probably miner

[slender creek]

use drill

and to the stars

and just take some damage miner is good at that

[wet cape]

How are you supposed to stay blocking in combat for five minutes as enforcer?

[slender creek]

alright one more time: kin, wisps, back against a wall

at the end of 5 minutes, shoot once, and itll count everything as combat

thats it

[stone tide]

Who would win in a fight bandit or Paul grevious

[ancient turtle]

how am I supposed to use the beam turret? It takes way too long charging up to hit anything that's not stationary...

[strong idol]

they are hit or miss (usually miss) but cape and umbrella stops them from breaking

you pretty much have to anticipate the spawns

or lure stuff next to them

[ancient turtle]

so magma worm was an absolutely pain of a boss to try to deal with with the beam turret

[patent hull]

Is artificer still hot garbage after the patch?

[elder patrol]

She is fine, even before the patch tbh

I think she remains unchanged, aside the Frost Barrier pushing enemies into walls bug got fixed

[patent hull]

I'm not gonna declare myself the authority on ror returns so I am willing to accept I might just be the worst artificer player to ever live. So with that out of the way what's your general strategy with her? I specifically have trouble with her because most of her skills slow her down a ton, don't do much damage, are hard to hit with or have a small area of effectiveness, or take a really long time to cast (usually for a meh result). Her s1 kind of combines all of these for me, and I doubt I'd even be able to win a drizzle game with her without at least command

[elder patrol]

Well first, her kit (default and alt) mostly relies heavily on positioning

[patent hull]

Could you elaborate a bit on that?

[elder patrol]

Okay take her default kit for example:

Charkams need you to position adequately away from enemies to deal the most damage

Nanobomb needs you to group enemies around for a good stun and damage

Frost Barrier is usually to accomplish those two above. Decent escape option too

Flamethrower allows you to move slowly while casting and if you float high enough, smaller enemies cannot hit you. You can cancel it midway by throwing a charkam to bail

Know when to commit and run is good too, charkams also do damage on their way back which allows for some hit-and-run

[patent hull]

Hmm okay

Maybe I do just really suck then cuz most of that is stuff I would do. Just out of curiosity what characters in your opinion would you say are weaker than her? And how big is the gap in power between her and the next strongest character

[elder patrol]

Idk

[patent hull]

The flamethrower canceling is interesting tho. Didn't know that

[elder patrol]

Each characters have very diff playstyle so comparing is hard for me

[patent hull]

That's fair I guess. The only solid opinion I have is that pilot is nuts

And artificer is either bad or I really suck with her

[worn sky]

spam m1

= win

[sturdy widget]

can you bungus in lava?

[elder patrol]

No, since taking damage

[obtuse shore]

Is there a consensus on the best survivor to obtain environment logs? pilot perhaps?

[tender gazelle]

loader's pretty good for it

probably the most handy utility

add an afterburner if you wanna hunt for enviromental logs using command and youre good

though probably also works with pilot

[obtuse shore]

Oh yes, I forgot about their grapple, ty

[slender creek]

Yeah grapple also resets extra jumps so that and an afterburner is a lot of movement

[mild sun]

does getting all gold trials unlock anything?

[leaden storm]

Nope just infinite clout and satisfying-Ness (15 golds gives you an artifact tho)

[elder patrol]

The true ending of Providence Trial

[leaden storm]

Providence phase 5

[primal valve]

Shiny UI

[rocky fog]

1x or 2x zoom?

[leaden storm]

Went on 1x zoom the first time i cleared danger orbits and never looked back

Wait quick question for the Robomando unlock does it have to kill you or can you kill it because I did the prior and I’ve been seeing conflicting info about it

[primal valve]

You need to die after activating it is what I've read

[leaden storm]

Thats what i thought as well

[cerulean python]

from the wiki

[leaden storm]

Ye that feels ambiguous

[crisp bane]

drowning in research was the most bullshit rng one

like the others

they can at least require skill

and a little luck

but goddamn drowning in research

[primal valve]

Yes

Think lower score or increased fails would make it less miserable for the unfortunate ones with poor RNG

[crisp bane]

mhm

[mild sun]

to get gold rank in judgment you have to get it with all characters or only one ?

[solar kestrel]

all

[primal valve]

Timer doesn't matter, gold is completing on all non-sectret characters

[keen halo]

How does Predatory Instincts stack, wiki didn't have info on it

[green tiger]

The crit buff doesn’t stack, but the attack speed does

Same as ror2

[keen halo]

So, worth stacking for Judgement?

[green tiger]

I suppose so

[heavy jungle]

I mean this is pretty self-explanatory

what more info do you need

[keen halo]

...I didn't see the grey text shoot-

[strong idol]

sadge they axed the crit stack

[mild sun]

when looping does the map variant change ?

[hidden perch]

how do i KITE on controllers?

i feel like they always shoot in the direction i'm going

[urban olive]

what's everyone's controller setups for the new aim feature?

I find it kinda tricky using the right stick because even if I map all 4 abilities to the shoulder buttons, I still can't jump

I have a couple 8bitdo controllers that have back paddles so I can use a back paddle for jumping, but that means I'm limited to exclusively using an 8bitdo for this game

and I feel pushing in the right stick will be cumbersome/inaccurate

[cerulean python]

if youd rather, you could set the aim key binds to the triggers i think. i use kb only so im not 100% sure thats possible but id imagine it is. if sticking with right stick tho best i could say is sacrifice a shoulder button for jump and put special on a face button.

or maybe util on face, since for some characters that respects your move direction not aim direction

[primal valve]

Right stick for aim and use "the claw" tho mostly not using aim since alteady pretty used to aiming with movement

[urban olive]

I will never, ever use the claw

[urban olive]

ah I was thinking this! thanks

aiming with the triggers would mean I'd have to use my middle fingers on them and my index fingers on the bumpers which isn't comfortable, especially for extended periods lol

[cerulean python]

oh ok. i find middle finger on triggers fine so i mentioned it but thats understandable

[wary oak]

oh can you kill the dang thing for the unlock now? when was that changed

[brisk apex]

not how it was on the first patch

[steel moss]

im not sure if anyone can help me on this; i recently finished enforcer's judgement trial on another device from my main pc, but i think cloud over wrote it so now i dont have the skin. does anyone know if i can do anything abt this

[fringe delta]

how does one delete their save file? i have disabled cloud saves, deleted the json file, uninstalled and reinstalled the gamel three times, deleted every single risk of rain returns associated file i could find and then verified integrity, but the game somehow still remains unaffected. is there a copy of the save file stored somewhere i cant find or something?

[robust trail]

worth rerolling?

[elder patrol]

Yes

[cerulean python]

recycle is the only time firemans boots are good to see, because you get the joy of not having to actually pick it up

[robust trail]

eh i died anyway

[elder patrol]

Rip

[robust trail]

the shrine of the mountain changes are amazing

but how does it decide what to spawn

like 3 wandering vagrants instead of 1 voltaic

[slender creek]

director shenanigans, to put it simply

[slender creek]

purposely havent unlocked that

i almost feel bad rigging my item pool but like...

some items are just

yk

firemans boots

[crisp bane]

How does the loop system work? When you loop, does it only go through the stages you went through and their variants? Or does it include everything

Oh yea another question

All proc items with stackable proc chance stack up additionally right?

[mild sun]

does such thing exist ?

[crisp bane]

doubt

[cinder zenith]

If anything it would be with Honor

But I’ve never heard of that happening so that’s probably just a consistency thing

[elder patrol]

Nope lol

[manic hazel]

Gang do you think artificer is hard I still haven't beat the game with her. She's honestly harder to master/play.

[sullen linden]

Not sure if she's hard, but I don't really like her primary, which makes just everything kind of a pain

[manic hazel]

I'm just not used to her primary, that or I have extreme skill issue

[tender gazelle]

she's decent

just a bit squishy

[thorn grove]

Spoilers for artifacts:
||Do artifact of enigma work like in RoR or like RoR2?||

[manic hazel]

Does anyone know how to get this one? (Spoilers for the last stage)

[tender gazelle]

secret ladder at the stack of cargo rates above this

[rocky fog]

best items for merc?

[strong idol]

while you loop you can get stages/variants different from the ones you have visited before during that run

[sullen linden]

All of 'em

[sturdy widget]

who is the tankiest survivor

[tender gazelle]

acrid

usually

[astral ibex]

Or enforcer

[opal skiff]

never played ror 1 or 2. what's the difference?

[elder patrol]

Not much difference tbh

Although in Returns, you can get Small Enigma bits that can reduce equipment cooldown

[primal valve]

Stats wise Acrid (Starts with 15 armor not listed in log) Kit wise enforcer

[tender gazelle]

technically drifter has more potential because she's the only survivor with +4 armor per level

[primal valve]

Ok Drifter passes acrid in armor at level 16, mathces at 15 tho I'd say that is usually far enough to run where it stops mattering as you are either dead, killed provi or fly across map as hellbent god

Actually I'll need to recheck rough level on stage 5 end

Ok so going straight to provi gets you roughly to the 14-16 range

[thorn grove]

||in RoR equipment is hidden, and cooldown for all equipments is same, also you can find an item "Small Enigma", which reduces cooldown. In RoR2 equipment is visible an cooldown of equipments are normal and isn't same||

[spiral salmon]

you can see equip and the cooldown isnt the same, but you still get the cooldown reduction thingies

[slender creek]

hard to learn but i think shes fun. You need to learn to make good use of her ice wall, and jump before you use flamethrower

flamethrower can be cancelled with any abilities, m1 being the fastest, if youre in danger

put up ice wall, throw chakrams into it, once it breaks, jump and use flamethrower at the now frozen and slowed down enemies

thats a pretty standard arti sequence

if you want to get into alts, well, thats when it gets silly

[manic hazel]

Ohh okay I didn't know that her flamethrower could be cancelled

[slender creek]

Yeah thats an important one

[tiny pulsar]

how do i get this (variant 1)

[proud peak]

Hidden rope down the big tower of orange crates on the segment above

[tiny pulsar]

thank you!

[umbral skiff]

do temporary items cooldown reset whever I get another same temporary item?

[proud peak]

Yes

[valid yew]

Hey, anyone know how to completely reset game progress on Steam? I've tried disabling Steam Cloud Sync and deleting the save file, but it somehow keeps getting my Logs and Unlocks back, even run history! What's going on?

Turned off Steam Cloud Saves, deleted C:\Users\myuser\Appdata\Roaming\Risk_of_Rain_Returns\<steamid>_localsave.json, but it comes back

Does it get my save data from a database or something? I want it gone!

[valid yew]

Okay, it was a Steam for Linux issue. Using a Windows PC let everything work like normal

[grand flume]

after the newest update, my bindings for movement and all were reset and i dont think i can adapt to classic settings instead of modern ror2 settings. Cant find the option to turn it on. can anybody help me pls

[warm apex]

reset controls to default gives you a choice of presets

[grand flume]

cheers i just forgor

[warm apex]

the option isnt super intuitive

[primal iris]

some alternative abilities require finishing a providence trial OR killing 3000 enemies. Does that mean I would have to kill 3000 enemies in one run or in general?

[mild sun]

In general. Can be multiple runs

[primal iris]

kk thx

[north lance]

Does anyone if pierce item or natural pierce like pilot's trigger the scope item? aka the 0.5/1% chance to kill enemy

[slender creek]

depends on wether the pierce procs

commandos fmj procs on all enemies, but chef cleavers dont

[north lance]

How about pilot's primary?

[slender creek]

you can tell by wether the numbers are white or yellow, and also the wiki usually clarifies that on pierce abilities

i believe pilot does full to all pierced

[north lance]

Oh didn't know about the white or yellow

So all pierce does proc. Got it

[north lance]

Thanks btw!'

[slender creek]

on pilots attack yes

[north lance]

Got you

[slender creek]

check the wiki or do your own testing by watching through your clips for everything