game-questions-returns

[mild sun]

The difference is tiny, but you can notice it if you do both in quick succession

[rapid arrow]

fair

[mild sun]

I tend to use the short hops when I use a character that has fast attacks
And big hops for the slower ones

[lime abyss]

backblast or burnout for miner?

[granite tiger]

What determines the damage of a focused strike parry? Is it timing or the damage of the attack you parried?

[brisk apex]

i think its based on the total amount of damage u block with it

in that use

[lime abyss]

i was told it's 500% if you just parry, 1000% if it parries an attack

[granite tiger]

That doesnt seem right since normal parry doesnt deal that much damage. definitely not 500%, thats almost an eviscerate's of damage

[lime abyss]

i mean ingame it says 500-1000% range, unless it's wrong

[lunar skiff]

Are there monsoon sklins in return?

[brisk apex]

no :)

[lunar skiff]

oh💀

[granite tiger]

I was hoping that every character had at least 1 skin to unlock, but my boy merc doesnt get any

[zenith garden]

Merc has an unlockable skin

From the trials

[dense magnet]

any RoR:R mods?

[mild sun]

Not yet

[languid aurora]

@granite tiger he has a hidden prism as well on UES contact light. I won’t spoil where it is tho!

[regal vector]

i went too FAST as pilot and clipped into a wall on the second to last stage, now i'm trapped, is there anything i can do besides hoping i can clip back through?

[plain rock]

does anyone know the name of the pinned thread that describes how to unlock things in the game file? I can't find it in the bug reports section

[granite tiger]

Prism?

[jovial field]

Prism :)

[rapid arrow]

mercenarism

[lilac mantle]

how do you get engineer's second turret? i've forgotten and am mid-run

[rapid arrow]

obtain a beam drone

(3 laser drone and merge)

[lilac mantle]

thanks, time to start praying to rngesus

[nocturne zodiac]

does attack speed affect sniper's perfect reload window like in ror2?

[burnt jacinth]

how do you get the mercenary prism in the last stage? it’s just an outline for me

[rapid arrow]

no

[nocturne zodiac]

sad

[rapid arrow]

you need to unlock the character first

[nocturne zodiac]

so attack speed knida useless on sniper

[burnt jacinth]

ohhhh makes sense
I’ll do that then

[nocturne zodiac]

?

[rapid arrow]

hm I think I saw people saying atk speed makes the bar moves faster... so it's sabotaging

[old pewter]

he has 2

[tulip flint]

how good is the alt turret on engi? just all around for a normal run

[unreal slate]

I’m guessing this is the best place to ask (sorry if it’s already been asked/answered before) when is modding for rorr going to be available? And would it be easier to make mods since it’s not 3d?

[plush sorrel]

You only get one, it has (iirc) the same cooldown as regular turrets, but it shoots a piercing shot in a straight line which deals a ton of damage, perfect for large targets and crowds. The biggest drawback though is the need to babysit it while it charges. The more health it has at the moment of firing, the more damage it can dish out. Iirc attack speed works on it (in terms of charging speed)

[agile crag]

probably already answered but how do u get this chest

[zenith garden]

the room above it theres a secret rope

its a bit of a distance

[agile crag]

the room above?

i can't seem to find anything

is it the one with han-d in it

[zenith garden]

check above those boxes

[agile crag]

okay there u go

thanks

i never thought to check there lmao idk why they changed it so much from the original

[raven cloud]

Hey I’m playing the orginal ror on on my PS Vita and couldn’t find a category anywhere for the original. I was in the Sunken Tomb and I couldn’t find teleporter, is there some hidden area it could be?

[lethal bone]

can anyone confirm if boar beach counts as "secret boss" for huntress

[placid turret]

Nope

[lethal bone]

tyty

[placid turret]

boar beach does not have special bosses sadly, so just direseeker, acrid and provi

[lethal bone]

👍👍👍👍

[agile crag]

and the cognation golem but nobody's grinding that one

[worn sky]

and origin imp overlord
for some reason, overloading worm counts? not tested

[heavy jungle]

it shouldn't I think, it's just magma worm with the overloading elite type

[wanton plank]

Probably shouldn't but it has been singled out for Loader (RoRR) and Commando (RoR2) challenges

[viral ice]

The ror2 one is a unique boss from the ror1/rorr one. Ror2 magma worm cant be elite, ol worm is a seperate entity there.

And Loaders challenge is just because the OL worm is generally infamous

[hollow kraken]

Idk how good it is, but it sure is fun.

[sullen linden]

Sounds good to me then
Still need to get a beam drone as Engi, but still

[faint basalt]

does fall dmg counts for the no dmg commando run

[sullen linden]

Yes

[obsidian vessel]

what am i meant to do against cremators on survivors that don't have iframes

[elder patrol]

Fight it slow

[obsidian vessel]

its crazy how they can continue to spam the range attack when you are point blank

[languid aurora]

@granite tiger sorry I fell asleep. Did you find out what prisms are?

[tacit hemlock]

does anyone know if the 2nd variant of ancient valley is in the original pool? trying to get log + prism but i seem to get any other variant sadly

[languid aurora]

The prism for drifter is in a different variant I believe? Someone correct me if I’m wrong? @tacit hemlock
It’s in one of the new variants

[zenith garden]

Variant 2 is part of the old pool

[tacit hemlock]

oki awesome, thank you!

[zenith garden]

The locations for them are on the wiki

[outer garnet]

was trying to get the shard but accidently clipped through somewhere i shouldnt be
am i softlocked?

[cursive thorn]

So like, does attack speed actually do anything for flame chakram?

[signal lagoon]

what in the susballs is this

[cursive thorn]

gotta make it to the end, too

[elder patrol]

Time limit lol

[real shell]

What are some of the best red items to pick first for command runs?

Im trying to do Unlocks w Han-D

[fallow widget]

is there a official wiki for retuirns?

[queen pewter]

Does scarf have a hard cap on dodge chance?

Bc I have 13 (playing command with sac for unlock purposes), yet i can still get hit sometimes lmao

[queen pewter]

Yeah

Iirc its hosted thru wiki.gg

[cursive thorn]

you can find the link in the description of the wiki discussion channel

or the pins of the same channel

[harsh furnace]

No, it just stacks multiplicatively now.

[queen pewter]

Oh.

Weird

DetailedItemDescription is inaccurate then 😔

[still sentinel]

What is this?

[mild sun]

Tree

[still sentinel]

-_-

[strange crest]

Any Returns players using Mac here?

[harsh furnace]

Nah, it says correctly, it just doesn't say if it stacks additively or multiplicatively

[strange crest]

I just booted up the game using Whisky and the fullscreen is really weird, wondering if anyone else found a solution?

[queen pewter]

It literally says "+10% per stack" lmao

[still sentinel]

Can I do anything here?

[queen pewter]

Idts

[still sentinel]

So it just exists?

[queen pewter]

Yeah

[harsh furnace]

Subject does not know what "stacking multiplicatively" means. Continuing monitoring.

[queen pewter]

I'm going to Prometheus you

[harsh furnace]

I'm going to she shouldn't notice you

[strange crest]

why is brother talking in code blocks

[forest nexus]

Hey, does anyone know what the "Use the same Activator 5 times" achievement is?
I thought it was just use an equipment 5 times in a run but it's not?

[queen pewter]

Nope

Its the things that allow you to use other equipment from a specific location

For money

[forest nexus]

Ohhhhhh fuck me
Thanks

[queen pewter]

Np

[vivid mist]

on the final stage what is the ||shimmering outline at the bottom of the map past the golems using the boombox|| ?

[queen pewter]

||Prism, unlocks a skin for merc||

Idk the conditions to make it not an outline tho

Oh wait nvm

Unlock him first

[harsh furnace]

Because life is too short to consensually congregate with concord conclave of comfortably contained contemporary convoys in conformed constraints of contemplating-contaminated conventional continuum of conservatism

[queen pewter]

Then go back to there

[strange crest]

whar

aint readin allat

[harsh furnace]

yolo

[vivid mist]

ah! ok gotcha

thanks

[queen pewter]

Ofc

[eager harbor]

Is there any artifacts i can get without the modern variants of stages or are they all required?

[barren tulip]

artifacts from ror1 are on old stage variants

so most of them

[zinc light]

i have a quick question, what counts as a multi-kill? is it just enemies killed AT ONCE or in quick succession?

i'm trying to do the Artificer unlock where you multi-kill 15 enemies, and right now I'm just doing Kin + Glass but whenever I kill roughly 15 lemurians with flamethrower I get nothin

[slender isle]

nano bomb them

[zinc light]

true..

nvm I got it :3

[signal badger]

two questions: which survivors are top tier (don't hit me with the "they're all equal") and how different is this game from ror1 as in can I use the ror1 wiki as reference for this game?

[tardy sphinx]

Just use the risk of rain returns wiki on wiki.gg

[signal badger]

Oh I didn't see a wiki when I looked it up, thanks.

That's why I asked

[tardy sphinx]

Yeah fandom is somehow at the top of the list despite not having a returns wiki

[signal badger]

I really like the pilot but I couldn't win with him yet, I only have one win with huntress but that's it

[icy prairie]

is there any advice on how to play atifier? im trying to get the multi kill achevment aswell, I plan on just playing the game tring to beat it with her and hopefulylget it during that but im having real struggles playing her, spacing is obviously important and ice wall is supossed to be a spacing tool but she lacks movement speed to deal with spacing while ice wall is on cooldown

[tardy sphinx]

As for best survivors? That depends.
Easiest is probably huntress and commando

[tardy sphinx]

I just went through until I found the giant pig boss. Then waited for him to spawn a ton of pigs that I could 1 shot with nanobomb

[topaz temple]

there is a fandom returns wiki but it’s really bad

[slender isle]

Drifter, mercenary, sniper, engineer, loader, chef. Those are way ahead of the curve power wise

[icy prairie]

yea i dont think the multi kill is gonna be hard, just a matter of finding a horde of eniemes, i more so need genral advice for playing the character, im having a hard time making past stage 2 monsoon

[tardy sphinx]

You can be very safe while using flamethrower if you jump right before using it. You can be out of range of enemy attacks while still in range to hit them

[icy prairie]

crabs seem to disagree with that

[tardy sphinx]

Full jump and it works with crabs

Other than the obvious jump and attack strat you can use on every character...
Artificer is just hard to use. But her damage is good enough that you can kite enemies until your wall is up. Then auto and flame them to death

[topaz temple]

i personally find bandit far easier than those two, he’s got a really nice set of base abilities

[tardy sphinx]

Bandit I feel requires more skill to use correctly. He is great (even though some people complain about how bad his original abilities are for some reason), but is more complicated

[topaz temple]

he was my go-to until i unlocked drifter

[rancid plank]

if i use the artifact of sacrifice with artifact of cognation, will the clone drop items ?

[tacit hemlock]

any suggestions as to the fastest way to drown whorls

[primal valve]

I used CHEFs secondary

[tacit hemlock]

oh word

i guess sniper alt primary works too

[primal valve]

HAN-D also has decent knockback on his primary

Enforcer secondaries and utility also work.
Engi secondary mines tho their cooldown is long.

[dim fog]

yo anyone need help??

[solemn merlin]

Does fire shield activate with miner's burnout skill

[outer garnet]

can kin + dissonance spawn elder lemurian stage 1?

[wanton plank]

Yup

[outer garnet]

aight thanks

[raven scarab]

Hey, can anyone tell me if harvester's scythe works for Sniper's steady aim for each enemy hit with a crit? It seems that it worked that way in the original, but it looks like i'm only getting one heal per shot no matter if I crit the entire line of enemies.

[digital lion]

does turning off new enemy types prevent Volatile Magma Worms from spawning?

[mellow lynx]

yeah

[supple ferry]

how do u play commando. it feels impossible to play this fella

[leaden hazel]

Really hard

it took me 71 runs in moonson with commando to win and 2 with Huntress

[merry hare]

hey theres a log book that im at right now and idk how to get it. I have a screenshot of the one im at but I can't paste it in here. Can I dm someone the picture to see if you know how to get it?

[supple ferry]

you cant paste it here ??

[merry hare]

nope

[blissful pulsar]

Watching a speedrun of the game and noticed that they zoom in and out a number of times
does the current zoom scale effect like, enemy spawns or smthn?

[primal valve]

Pick role from #roles for image perms

[blissful pulsar]

Or does it like
just generally improve performance by having less on the screen

[merry hare]

i dont see an image role, might just be blind idk

[primal valve]

As in pick any role, each of them give permission to post images

[merry hare]

ohhhh

this one, top left

[supple ferry]

?

thats my guess

[merry hare]

im playing pilot rn with the wallrun dash thing

[merry hare]

how do i get up there tho

[supple ferry]

some are very cruel in requiring u to have a bunch of movement items

like hopoo feathers

[merry hare]

bruhhhh

thats annoying

[supple ferry]

indeed

[merry hare]

okay ty

[supple ferry]

you could also try and see if u can climb up those pipes into the ceiling but it doesnt really look like it

[merry hare]

okay

ngl i didnt even know you could climb those pipes XD it was the right one, it takes you all the way up

[blissful girder]

i usually never ask questions buuuut i have a beam drone and i dont have the engi achivement? is arms race bugging the drone to be technically "not a beam drone"

[wary oak]

Looks like a laser drone to me

(Beam drones are the upgraded ones)

[cerulean python]

just need 2 more

[blissful girder]

ohhhh like the upgrade

my bad

thanks!

[wary oak]

Yw

Tbf it's not like you can really easily learn drone names without snooping

Gunner - Attack
Healing - Medical
Missile - Rocket
Laser - Beam
Flame - Blaze
Iirc

Hm, might make a pic to post for people asking about specific drones

Will have to do that when i'm home

[astral ocean]

so if Bungus doesn't heal when in combat, even if you're staying still, why doesn't it say that

[pure shuttle]

because if you're attacking you're not standing still xd

[granite tiger]

Hey I just realized, I didnt see the merc's prism when I deposited the battery in the chest for robomando. arent they both in the same area?

[mild sun]

yeah, the prism is a bit more to the left

[granite tiger]

I was at 150% zoom....how did I not see it?

[mild sun]

it's invisible until you get close ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wary oak]

Yeah, prisms are a pain like that
Doesnt help that ones on the other side of the wall either

[smoky igloo]

Someone else asked this 2 days ago but nobody answered.

Does Hunter's Harpoon actually last up to 25 seconds, or is it only 20? I feel like it's only 20.

[granite tiger]

Also where is the trial for mercenary that unlocks one of his alternate skins?

[smoky igloo]

I think it's only the prism & the final providence trial.

[granite tiger]

Figured, Has anyone made a list of all possible skins for each survivor?

[smoky igloo]

They're all on the wiki, I believe.

[thorny mist]

does something happen if you dont grab an item from the 3 selections during judgement trial? ive seen runs where they just dont grab the yellow item after the stage with the totem boss & was wondering if there was a reason why

[granite tiger]

Wait does the prism spawn in both versions of the ues conact light

[strong idol]

omg they gave sniper a melee option

[timid badger]

not a good one lmao

[strong idol]

sorry i can't hear you over the sound of beating enemies to death with my rifle

dmg is low but it seems so stupid gotto love it

like drifter's spin to win

you just yell every time: let it rip

[maiden jacinth]

Yo does anyone know if Acrids albino skin from 2 is in this game? And if so how would i unlock it?

[timid badger]

prism somewhere in the cl!

[mild sun]

Afaik, yeah, as long as you can see the geiser it should be there

[strong idol]

bottom 3 need to be unlocked

[timid badger]

oh right a different one

wait is it the same on both variants

[wary oak]

.
Ror2 masteries as palettes in this game is going on my mod skins to-do list

[maiden jacinth]

Thx bb

[strong idol]

nou

[slender creek]

does anyone know how enhanced chef utilities work?

i havent been able to figure them out

[brittle rock]

It’s a longer dash for the oil spill and I don’t know the toss one

I presume a larger aoe

[slender creek]

i looked at the wiki already

it wasnt very specific

[dim elbow]

what do people think of the balancing of the survivors? is huntress super busted or are there just pretty weak ones

[strong idol]

huntress? busted? I think i skipped those pages

[slender creek]

huntress is definitely busted

[brittle rock]

Huntress is fine, the two I’m looking at are drifter and loader

Loader is still debatable, drifter is not balanced at all

Huntress is fine

[slender creek]

but i think balance is pretty ok

except drifter yeah

[strong idol]

huntressness is just easy to play

[slender creek]

and cyclone is just disusting

[brittle rock]

The only reason I say loader is because with enough cooldown stuff you can’t die really

[slender creek]

the amount of procs is crazy

[brittle rock]

There’s also merc but merc is still balanced just strong

Drifter is a no

[strong idol]

acrid is like in ror2 - run around and everything dies to sludge and epidemic

[slender creek]

i think they did a good job at making commando good

and hes super fun too

yeah acrid never changes

[strong idol]

i mean ror1 mando is better than ror2 mando cause mando works better in 2d

[slender creek]

and suppresive fire is once again viable

artificer is interesting for me

primary is really hard to effectively use late game

[brittle rock]

I don’t really like the ranged characters

[slender creek]

flamethrower and occasional spears end up being your only damage source, and flamethrower is really vulnerable

you have to be really careful

but damn is flamethrower busted

[dim elbow]

yeah artificer feels really clunky to me, but i dont know if thats balancing or a skill issue

[slender creek]

i think shes pretty balanced

she has incredible damage output, but you have to find the right window

[brittle rock]

Eh

[slender creek]

small problem however: stopwatch = win

thats not exactly news

but with artificer she can stack so much burn in that one period of time its insane

[brittle rock]

I think the dps is pretty nominal compared to the stuff you can get with someone like huntress or commando

[slender creek]

i shredded through providence every time i reached him

with stopwatch

[brittle rock]

I mean that’s stopwatch killing providence not arti

[slender creek]

i think the dps is really high and much less item dependent

you can easily kill a whole swarm with 1 or 2

[warm lion]

its less item dependent but also items dont make it stronger nearly as well

[slender creek]

huntress ofc has cyclone gimmicks yeah

but like

the dps and wave clear is nuts

on both

cyclone is just easier

i just like the way artificer plays

its just unfortunate ice wall becomes useless later game

[granite tiger]

Still easy to get cheese item combos with tho. Also the parry alternate secondary is just busted for super ez massive damage and invulnerability frames

[brittle rock]

Yes but they aren’t a literal win condition by default

Drifter is what loader or railgunner is in 2

[granite tiger]

What even makes drifter so broken? I havent unlocked them yet so im guessing they can just make stupid amounts of items?

[calm robin]

honestly drifter might be worse than loader was, even ignoring the items the cube is ridiculous

[livid garden]

i mean huntress has insane dps herself

[arctic shoal]

someone explain the hitbox of magma worm

does it only do damage when it hits and enters the ground?

[brittle rock]

Scrap cube is a disgusting amount of damage , tornado slam is a mobility skill that does more damage than any other movement skill probably combined, and then free items or a recycler constantly

[warm lion]

yep

and the fire

[livid garden]

like overall drifter is probably easily top 2 in the cast

[arctic shoal]

meaning as melee it can come right at my face but if i jump before it hits the ground im fine right

[brittle rock]

I mean top one whose better

[warm lion]

as far as i know yes

[livid garden]

loader maybe

[brittle rock]

Maybe

Still item dependent a bit

[warm lion]

how does this not apply to everyone other than drifter though

[brittle rock]

Drifter needs like a bit of damage, a bit of healing and a feather and good for run

[livid garden]

extremely powerful close range damage, can be invincible at will and power himself up

[brittle rock]

Well that’s the point

Drifter doesn’t really rely on items to be strong while others do past a point

It applies to everyone besides drifter really

[granite tiger]

It really means "How far into a game can you get with a character before you need items to survive"

[livid garden]

i dunno, it's not as if drifter always can survive spamming melee

and she's not really fast

[warm lion]

so by that metric its just drifter merc and bandit that are good?

[granite tiger]

Sort of?

Depends on how u play too

Like I have a real hard time with loader in ror1 and rorr because of how they move

and their special isnt as useful to me as the ground slam from ror2

[livid garden]

loader can fall into a sort of rotation, especially if you use the alt special

get into the fight with grapple, place down your alt special. start attacking and use your secondary if you're in a rough spot

[brittle rock]

This is one point, we go into more and drifter is just… drifter. Free items, an execute or an insane mobility skill and a magnet skill that deals stupid damage

[warm lion]

im not disagreeing that drifter is strong im just saying other characters arent that far behind and item reliance seems like a weird point to argue

in what situation are you not getting items

[brittle rock]

None, but if you can survive well without them, when you have the power goes wild

[granite tiger]

Thats not what it means, its just a metric for how poerful a character is in their own right

Bc every character is broken with enough items

[warm lion]

yeah i understand that, but how is it applicable to the actual game

[granite tiger]

Ease of play for certain survivors, how hard/easy a game can be depending on what items u have

[warm lion]

putting them into a vaccum doesnt make sense to me when thats not the game the character is in

[brittle rock]

Yeah that’s why I’m always hesitant when people say “omg (insert character) is so strong I just killed providence in 6 seconds”

That was your items man

[brittle rock]

So you’d rather measure them by the rng that is item pools?

Or enemy matchups?

[granite tiger]

I feel like your missing the point. When we say some characters are item dependent/not dependent, we mean "This character will do good regardless of how many/what items you have" versus "This character needs certain items to be good into late game"

[brittle rock]

“Well if I can do well without stuff with stuff it’s easy”

[warm lion]

wait im confused by this, do you guys mean reliance on a specific item or items in general

[granite tiger]

Bit of both

[brittle rock]

Like engineer likes bungus but we don’t measure them solely off their bungus potential

[warm lion]

yeah but there are characters that scale better off of items than drifter does so it just doesnt seem fair to me to judge all of them with no items

[granite tiger]

Again, we do that bc every character is broken with enough items

[warm lion]

i feel like good item synergy is part of a characters stengths

[brittle rock]

Looping is excluded because every character sort of becomes the same after one or two

[warm lion]

when did i bring up looping?

[brittle rock]

You don’t get enough items to really “scale massively” through 5 stages

[warm lion]

we must be playing different games

[granite tiger]

Yes but that means a character is weakers potentially bc they might rely on that synergy to do good. Like engineer with bungus. Late game they sort of need one or two if possib;e

[timid badger]

scrap cube disagrees

[warm lion]

tbf i havent used the cube a lot that trial pissed me off

[wary oak]

cube is almighty

[brittle rock]

Commando stage 6 is about the same, probably worse than drifter stage 6

[timid badger]

it's far and away the most busted op skill in the game

[calm robin]

idk man sitting around on contact light can scale you in ways you wouldn't expect

[brittle rock]

Bro you cannot be arguing against something when you haven’t used it 💀

[wary oak]

i've dropped cubes on stupid friggin birds and they just explode

[warm lion]

yeah thats part of why i havent used it a ton

[warm lion]

I have made it clear im not arguing against drifter as #1

[wary oak]

cube is nasty for raw damage, but base secondary i'm pretty sure is a proc monster
just sayin from doin judgement in a few tries as drifter

[warm lion]

I just think there are more metrics that make up a good character

[granite tiger]

Dusk, to give an analogy, just because a kid with a gun can win a fight against an MMA fighter, doesnt mean the kid is stronger

[warm lion]

im saying give both of them the gun

[visual sapphire]

what causes this? I used loaders 2 and it just kinda spawned

[wary oak]

then it's not a brawl it's a shootout

[warm lion]

prismatic shard, gives a skin for a character when picked up

you just have to get close to spawn it

[visual sapphire]

oh alright

[granite tiger]

Theeeen they are the same, now they both have guns and both can kill each other, so that doesnt tell you who is stronger. Both can shoot each other, and if you start saying "well the MMA guy will have better aim since they are an athlete" then you loop back into comparing them based on bare metrics lol

Metrics unrelated to the gun they have.

[wary oak]

even if you do add items into the mix, drifter also has the buff of either;
filtering out unwanted items
or having an entire extra stage's worth of items

[warm lion]

im just saying some characters are sharpshooters and some are fighters, yeah if you take away the guns the fighter wins but if you give them the guns the sharpshooter wins

[granite tiger]

Why does he win?

[warm lion]

because they use the gun better?

this analogy is weird i dont like how your first thing was a child shooting an mma fighter

[granite tiger]

Which is a trait of the sharpshooter, not the gun they are holding

[warm lion]

yeah

the sharpshooter is a character in this analogy

[visual sapphire]

also are there any providence trials for ||robomando?|| I havent done a lot of the trials so im just curious

[warm lion]

im saying some characters have way better item synergies than drifter

[warm lion]

nope

[visual sapphire]

ah

[slender isle]

no, he doesn't even get a judgement skin

[wary oak]

brawlers dont need items
sharpshooters want items
thus, item dependent / non item dependent

drifter is kinda just both

[warm lion]

you can do the final one on him for no rewards though

[wary oak]

depending on your kit with drifter you are either a brawler or a brawler-sharpshooter in this analogy

[visual sapphire]

im currently trying to get him, is he any good?

[slender isle]

I mean he can beat the game

[warm lion]

if you like going fast yeah

[visual sapphire]

wonderful

[warm lion]

he just gets chests for free basically

[slender isle]

I like the free drones better on him

Since his skills feel awful to use even with the free items you get

[warm lion]

yeah

will probably be better when they add the mouse aiming though

[slender isle]

it's so bad that he turns around

[simple solstice]

Does anyone know the drop chance for artifact of sacrifice? I have it & it feels like I’m getting less items than just looting chests

[visual sapphire]

any alt skills? im assuming no but shrug

[warm lion]

nope

hes just kinda there

[visual sapphire]

sad

he'll probably just sit there in purgatory for the rest of time

also is ancient scepter still in the game?

[warm lion]

yeah

[visual sapphire]

lets go

[warm lion]

i believe you get it from beating the game on monsoon with merc

[visual sapphire]

endless cycle of pain with this game, isnt it

[slender isle]

why suffer when you can pick commando and have a good time no matter what

proven by science

[visual sapphire]

true but loader

and sniper

[slender isle]

loader when back up mags are a white item

[calm robin]

still crazy to me that afaik that's the only unlock from monsoon

[slender isle]

all unlocks should be locked behind monsoon

except volcanic mitt

[granite tiger]

Keep in mind most of what would probably be Monsoon unlocks are now just providence trials

ALthough tbf, Ancient Scepter is one of the most powerful items in the game depending on character, so id say its a fair unlock tho

[arctic shoal]

what are the best defensive items in the game

[granite tiger]

Uhhhhh Hermit scarf technically speaking or tough times.

Since they are straight damage negation

I guess repulsion armor too but that sucks

[calm robin]

cape is nuts, tough times as well, tbh I haven't unlocked most items yet so idk about the rest

[slender isle]

repulsion armour is great wdym

[granite tiger]

Idk i can find like 2 hermit scarfs and have an always active 17% block chance versus brief invulnaerability that requires me to take damage to trigger

[arctic shoal]

hows knurl

[granite tiger]

Good. Very useful passive stat boost

esp early game with weaker characters

[slender isle]

the fact that it takes damage to trigger makes it good. Saves you when you fuck up

you can actively even tank providence lasers with it if you screw up

[granite tiger]

Yeah but again its limited. Meanwhile scarf can activate 3 times in a row if ur lucky. Tbf im just not a fan of "trigger" items that need something to die/you to get hurt in order to activate. I like always active items.

[slender isle]

scarf literally requires you to get hurt in order to activate too

[calm robin]

I get what you mean but providence lasers aren't particularly threatening

[granite tiger]

Yeah but its every time you get hit it can trigger

which to me is more useful then every 7th time

[slender isle]

or it can't

[granite tiger]

Also bc you have just a little control over when it activates

Unless ur just that good where you can keep it at 5 hits

and save it or something

i have had that repulsion armor activate only to go down right as I get tanked by some creature

[slender isle]

you don't have to think about it

it'll just save you when you suddenly get stabbed by three claymen you didn't see in the crowd

[granite tiger]

Maybe, but then just as maybe a golem claps you right as the armor goes down.

[slender isle]

why are you standing next to a golem knowing you just took 6 hits

[brittle rock]

scarf is literally a rng item though?

[granite tiger]

Again im not saying one is objectively better then the other, im just saying in my opinion I like things like scarves and tough times more then repulsion armor

[slender isle]

the armour warns you that you just got smacked upon

[brittle rock]

Rep is controllable to a degree

Hermit is not

[granite tiger]

Yeah but its always active. it has no "down time"

[slender isle]

the downtime is the 9 hits you tank to the face before it activates

[brittle rock]

It’s not always active though, sometimes you’ll just eat shit to that golem and claymen

[granite tiger]

And sometimes repulsion armor activates from a single wisp, then goes down, and then the same thing happens that u just described anyway

Both have pros and cons, for my playstyle and rpeferences I prefer something that always is active even if I am sacrificng a guarantee block for every 6 hits I take.

[brittle rock]

I takes more than a wisp to trigger it

[granite tiger]

Its either like 15% block chance all the time, or 100% block chance some of the time.

And frankly some people like one, others like the other

[brittle rock]

It shrugs of small hits then triggers when you take a big amount of damage

[brittle rock]

I feel like you’re ignoring another part of rep, when you have it you can go ham on enemies or bosses without fear of dying

Not the same for scarf

[granite tiger]

Yeah but only for like 3-4 seconds. Again I just think scarf is better passively. I feel like I have been saved by scarf way more then repulsion armor.

And again again this is just my opinion coming from my experience. im not saying ur objectively wrong, its just that repulsion armor doesnt suit my playstyle as nicely

[faint sigil]

MERC eviscerate or afterimage

[granite tiger]

Eviscerate for sure

[faint sigil]

is the kinda more damage just not worth losing iframes?

even if i take parry and skyward

[granite tiger]

Eh its more that u give up invincibility frames that are useful for chaining combos. I also prefer blinding assault but either way it essentially means u only have parry and ur utility skill for dmg

[faint sigil]

less smack does certainly sound not as enticing

[mild sun]

how can i get 60 fps with no graphics card? my game is so slow with 30-40fps

[granite tiger]

Yeah and it just lasts so briefly. It feels like its an ability specifically for the parry and nothing else

heck it lasts so brief u almost cant get off all 3 blinding assault dashes before it ends

If it lasted like 6-ish seconds it would be more useful as it woudl let you set upa nice double damage combo

But as it is u can barely get a parry off before it goes away

[limpid vale]

Is there anything good about Chef's alternative basic attack? Even without using the nuclear upgrade special, basic cleaver is so nuts with procs and pierce and range

[granite tiger]

ohhhh buddy u need to walk into the middle of a crowd and unleash 9 boomerang cleavers

Clears everything off the screen

[warm lion]

thats the regular one hes saying is good already

[granite tiger]

OH my bad I see now

[calm robin]

afterimage, it combines with alt dash and sets of procs so well

[warm lion]

i think its mostly a preference thing though, ive seen some people that really prefer the slice over the throwing cleavers

but yeah i also dont get it

[granite tiger]

Alt dash is just not that good imo, it lacks the movement and versatility of the default, maybe im just not using it right

[brittle rock]

I prefer eviserate because it synergies with parry

[granite tiger]

Exactly. The way I primarily deal damage is parry, everything else is just minor damage and invincibility to buy time until next parry comes up.

[warm lion]

the straight down movement on it is very good but yeah for going through a crowd it isnt as good

[brittle rock]

I like alt because it’s nice to have the little extra boost of mobility

[faint sigil]

catching onto ropes midskill will be a godsend

im just trying it out and dashing past all the ropes

[calm robin]

the i-frames last quite a while after the slam so it's safer on crowds than you'd think, plus if you use afterimage with it not much will be alive to even attack

[faint sigil]

paryying jelyfish is oh so satisfying

[lucid cave]

Is there a way to have the item description show up and not cover Sniper's active reload bar

I'm tryna crown the "Lone wolf" providence trial

and I just

can't fkin see the active reload bar for a good 3 seconds after I pick up an item

[warm lion]

believe if you zoom out they should stop overlapping

[lucid cave]

im on 1x

[warm lion]

nevermind then

maybe zoom in?

[calm robin]

maybe it's just a me problem but eviscerate just seems to make enemies rush straight to my location and attack the moment it ends

[slender isle]

I've been actually losing my shit getting damaged when using eviscerate in judgement

[calm robin]

same man

[slender isle]

It doesn't feel like it in main game

But in judgement fuck me was I tilted

[calm robin]

I've found jumping right before it ends helps with most enemies but with jellyfish just never use it

[raw seal]

so to unlock predatory instincts do I have to not take damage until beating the ancient wisp or just not take damage during the 2nd teleporter event

[zenith garden]

During the time from when an ancient wisp spawns and when it dies

[raw seal]

thaaaank you

[onyx steeple]

anyone knows what the ancient scepter does for each character? gotta know if it's worth it lol (only one I know about is robomando but I don't rll wanna use him as of rn)

[zenith garden]

Usually it doubles the damage of any ult

[onyx steeple]

doesn't it also change some properties of each one?

[zenith garden]

If it’s not a damage one it’s more likely to yea (snipers drone slows with it)

[onyx steeple]

do you know what happens with drifter's primary? would be dope asf if the items became permanent

[zenith garden]

50% more items

[granite tiger]

How is the alt more mobile? You can only cover a fixed horizontal distance

[onyx steeple]

6 items then? or are there any other ways to increase how many items you get?

[granite tiger]

Not double damage, it enhances the special of each survivor. How is unique to each survivor.

Like merc's eviscerate with the scepter becomes massacre, which does the same damage, but will now refresh duration and jump to nearby enemies if one is killed

[onyx steeple]

does he get more clones with alt?

[granite tiger]

Yeah. You can look on the wiki to see what happens with each survivor

Also i think the clones last longer

[zenith garden]

Yea that’s why I said usually

[granite tiger]

also also i still dont get how you get cooldowns so low for Merc you can actually stack after image twice

[zenith garden]

I mean amethyst would work there

[granite tiger]

like besides the amethyst or a crit clas wicker ring strat

[vast ore]

Alien heads, scepters, enough cooldown reduction will work

[granite tiger]

Its got to be like 2 seconds or less, and at that point u just have infinite after image anyway

Thats what I dont get

I realized this went from "How" to "why"

BUt whatever

[calm robin]

yeah it's 2 more clones and an extra 2s of duration

[arctic shoal]

do bleeds stack

[patent hull]

Does eviscerate scale with attack speed like in ror2?

[arctic shoal]

does anyone have any ideas why i cant click the button for artifact of distortion

pressing interact or shooting it doesnt work

[rapid arrow]

no

[rapid arrow]

it needs to be an explosion (eg huntress ult)

[quartz musk]

Is there anything that'll stop the vase for the strange battery from spawning bc I've been trying to get robomando and I've been through the temple probably 50 times now and the vase wont spawn what tf am I doing wrong

[rapid arrow]

only spawns on drizzle difficulty

[languid aurora]

Alright this stupid trial is driving me nuts! How do I beat this enforcer mission? The one where you fight the scavenger?

[heavy heron]

Pick a floor to camp on

[quartz musk]

I am on drizzle

[heavy heron]

I’d go to the right and camp with my shield up for that scavenger mission

Then just hope between top floor and bottom floor and wipe enemies. Buy that first healing bot on the right then just hope between floors and buy all the 20’s.

Hop*

[languid aurora]

@heavy heron I’m doing that but even if I get a lot of drones, I can’t kill the scavenger fast enough

I haven’t been buying boxes because I don’t get anything out of them

[heavy heron]

Maybe you stay on the top floor too long

No the boxes give bots

Buy them all, I thought they gave nothing too at first

[rapid arrow]

hmm, is your gamemode modern?

[languid aurora]

@heavy heron oh really??? So I don’t have to buy all the drones that are lying around?

[heavy heron]

Nope!

[languid aurora]

Well, I wish I knew that!

[heavy heron]

Haha yessir!

[quartz musk]

No but it the first time I got it it was on custom and still spawned so I thought that didn't affect it

[heavy heron]

You got this @languid aurora

And when I say buy them all, I really mean the 20’s. You don’t have to try to get the 200’s IMO. You can also get the slightly more expensive ones if you have spare time and cash.

[unreal marsh]

can acrid utility proc?

[zenith garden]

The slime? If you mean that then no

[unreal marsh]

rip

[languid aurora]

@heavy heron that was MUCH easier! Thank you!

And now, I’m stuck on merc’s shadow lone challenge. Fantastic

[heavy heron]

HAHAHA.

No problem bro! @languid aurora

[calm robin]

So what do the chests in the weapons area of the contact light actually do? Is it really just a chance for nothing and a chance for an atg or am I missing something

[heavy heron]

Is that the same mission?

[fervent copper]

They have a chance to drop nothing or anything military related

[languid aurora]

@heavy heron any tips on merc shadowclone trial? Lol

[arctic shoal]

what characters and items did you guys pick up to get artifact of origin

[rapid arrow]

anyone tbh, you just need to quickly run to a rope after starting the TP and trigger the bomb blast

[upper lynx]

does decaying sample apply the slow from prison shackles?
or any on-hit effects for that matter

[tranquil scarab]

has anyone scrapped a gilded beam/missile/inferno drone?

[arctic shoal]

bomb blast?

[elder patrol]

3 reds

[chrome loom]

Is there anyway to finish this last Miner Challenge without going to Providence Trials? I really just like to spend my time playing Monsoon games when I have time to play rather than messing with the Trial system...

[elder patrol]

Same reds tho

[tranquil scarab]

oooo I like stacking most of the time

admittedly drone recycler is still probably a loss

[rapid arrow]

spite artifact

[languid aurora]

any tips for merc shadowclone trial?

[ocean crag]

don't think so, but that one is just a skin.

[chrome loom]

Aww... That's unfortunate...

That means I have to start playing Trials now then to unlock it?

Or is there some way to just work on that specific trial right from the get go?

I kind of only want to play Miner whenever I boot the game up...

[abstract seal]

has anyone figured out what this pylon object is? does it appear in-game or is it only on the menu screen? to me it looks like a big anemometer (an object to check wind speed)

[ocean crag]

no, you'd have to start doing some trials. though you can minimize the amount you do if you do them in the right direction. i think all of miner's are off to the right so if you do trials to the right you should get it as quickly as possible.

[chrome loom]

Ah okay. Thanks for the help BerylRose.

[faint latch]

Does anybody here know how to obtain that Golden Chest on the original variant of UES Contact Light?

I'd post a pic of what I'm talking about, but no privileges

[timid badger]

#roles

[zenith garden]

If it’s behind three pillars then the boxes in the area above are the clue

[faint latch]

ya

Alright then, I'll check

I recall in the original that the entrance to that Golden Chest was actually via a secret ladder underneath to a distance left of the large chest shown in the image.

[elder patrol]

Got changed lol

[faint latch]

Either that, or Starstorm mod added that pathway to the chest
EDIT: Beautiful

[calm robin]

If there's a tall stack of shipping containers above it then you can just hold down on them

[elder patrol]

The top of the stack of crates above where you find HAN-D there's a hidden ladder

[faint latch]

...Why change it though... Was it necessary? lol

I digress

[zenith garden]

Sneakrets

[faint latch]

I found it

Omg, that is so cancer

[zenith garden]

There’s a tiny rope in the ground that tries to tell you it’s there

[faint latch]

Emphasis on tries

[zenith garden]

If you have a role you can post pics

[spare belfry]

I do not

oof

[zenith garden]

Here

[faint latch]

Time to go into roles channel and pick Drifter as your favorite survivor

[spare belfry]

how to get to gold chest?

[elder patrol]

.

[zenith garden]

Ahah scroll up a tiny amount

[faint latch]

You remember the crates where you got HAN-D?

Go directly on top and get into the center

[spare belfry]

ah i got it

thanks

[faint latch]

There's a secret ladder. Follow the path way down until you reach the chest. Ofc, you could also scroll back up for it, lol

[zenith garden]

There’s an exit which you can also get into if you have enough movement from underneath

[elder patrol]

You need a few feathers and maybe a jetpack to go below lol

[faint latch]

Which is fucked up, because I had enough movement to reach that gap in the past, but for some reason, I could never phase through that exact spot there.

[elder patrol]

skill issue lawl

[gritty crypt]

Do Prov's worms have names?

[arctic shoal]

man struggling big time trying to get origin

what items should i beeline to pad my survivability

this feels extremely mob rng

macrobes feel like an instant brick

not quite sure what the easiest character is

[elder patrol]

Get at least a topaz brooch at first

If you got a green, Prophet's Cape or Guardian Heart will do

Pilot is arguably the easiest bc his m2

[arctic shoal]

im using commando but still getting completely fucked the instant i click teleporter

[faint latch]

Either uh... Yeah, you got a good point here

[arctic shoal]

actually yeah pilot sounds huge

[faint latch]

No survivor in this game feels like "ez mode"

[elder patrol]

Just pray distortion didn't lock your m2 or utility and all g

[arctic shoal]

specifically for this challenge there definitely are characters that have an easier time than others

[elder patrol]

Drifter-

At least not in challenges run

[arctic shoal]

like trying han-d would be suicide for this shit

im talking specifically about trying to get artifact of origin

[faint latch]

I was going to mention Drifter and Commando but... lol

[arctic shoal]

i dont know how well drifter would perform for this given that drifter is melee

[faint latch]

I'm actually in the middle of playing Pilot rn

And yeah, I see what you mean by his m2

But RoR is still RoR

[arctic shoal]

bro are we even talking about the same thing?

[elder patrol]

In the context of Origins unlock run, yeah Pilot is the best

[arctic shoal]

i think so too

[elder patrol]

Second best would be Engi bc Harpoons

[arctic shoal]

especially on teleporter

if teleporter spawns in an open plane you cant get out of the horde without getting hit

[mild sun]

HOW DOES STACKING HIT LISTS WORK

[arctic shoal]

pilot id have to save parachute for teleporter

[faint latch]

Oh right, Engie. I'm so dense for forgetting him. He's also viable.

[mild sun]

is it like infusion (in ror2) where stacks automatically fill

[elder patrol]

It just marks another enemies, so you have 2 marked enemies iirc

[faint latch]

Guy is a cheat code, lol

[elder patrol]

But the cap is still the same

[mild sun]

oh. so, useless

[arctic shoal]

engi very much is not a cheat code

[elder patrol]

Nah that would 200 dealt 10 taken modifiers

Lol

[faint latch]

...Yeah, he isn't. None of them are, but Engie is still good regardless.

[arctic shoal]

?

you do know what artifact of origin unlock challenge is right

im still confused abotu whether or not youre talking about the same thing

or just talking about the game in general

[faint latch]

Both

But alas, I'll shut up now

[arctic shoal]

well we're specifically talking about the challenge where there definitely is character bias

and outside of the harpoons i dont think engi is particularly great for the challenge

turrets would just get boned

[elder patrol]

Not when you pick up items to help it live like topaz, cape, umbrella, heart, etc.

Heart so far didn't get skewed by Glass so make that useful before devs nerf it

[arctic shoal]

yeah heart is amazing

i beelined that one

still ate shit though because macrobes

[elder patrol]

Pray RNG to not spawn them

[arctic shoal]

exactly

this challenge feels extremely kin rng dependent

[faint latch]

Macrobes did not spawn for me during my Origin run, so I consider myself lucky

It is very rng dependent

[forest temple]

what does the teir 3 rock drone look like?

[elder patrol]

G o l d

[mild sun]

stacking brokks to blow them up

[zenith garden]

The rock bois actually only have 2 tiers, normal and gold

[mild sun]

it turns out that if you stand there they will teleport to that one spot

[storm stag]

i have these guys unlocked which should i try unlocking now

[arctic shoal]

pilot is cool

[storm stag]

well does boss logs count as monster logs

[weak dagger]

oh

i thought it said how to blow them up

lmao

[arctic shoal]

should do

[weak dagger]

merc (sniper)

[arctic shoal]

merc is sick

[storm stag]

ive tried ive made it to the last lvl twice and got murked before i even got close to prov

also who should i try out next

[arctic shoal]

does anyone know if i can change audio output device while mid run

[storm stag]

nvm ima try arti

[weak dagger]

i actually dont think so but maybe its a hardware thing

all i hear about are people having issues relating to exactly this, but I personally have never been able to do this in like 90+% of games or software

[arctic shoal]

i can do it in the majority of games i play

its typically a few indie games where if i disconnect my headset the whole game goes on mute

normally i can just change device in windows audio at the bottom right, or just unblock my headset and it goes to speakers

[arctic shoal]

interesting to hear this though, its the opposite for me

[mild sun]

you get artifact of command, you're gonna be fine

[arctic shoal]

?

[mild sun]

origin

[arctic shoal]

lol its also glass and sacrifice

[honest plover]

Question: What determines if Miner's default secondary pushes enemies back or not? It feels like it always does if the enemy hasn't been damaged yet, but then it feels random afterwards.

[mild sun]

han-d has a random stun value right

[shy yacht]

how does one unlock prophets cage?

[zenith garden]

We are unsure so far

[cerulean coral]

what do people thing of Enforcers alt special? it seems pretty bad to me but i haven't seen people talk about it so i might be missing something.

[vivid mist]

Is it possible to find ||robomando|| in the magma barracks? I have the battery and arrived after the 22 minute mark but I don't see it anywhere

[zenith garden]

Are you the right difficulty?

[tardy sphinx]

should be in a secret area

[vivid mist]

Yeah, rainstorm

[zenith garden]

Did you arrive between 22:00 and 22:59?

[vivid mist]

oh I thought it just had to be -after- 22

Guess it's back to the beginning again lol

[zenith garden]

Nah it’s kinda precise

[vivid mist]

Yeesh, what a pain. haha

[dull wharf]

I find you get more consistency with the jump version, definitely finicky with just defending since it doesn't hit right next to the shield

[crimson portal]

So for 5 minutes in shield mode do I have to be being attacked?

[dull wharf]

Yeah you have to be "in combat"

[crimson portal]

I’m just kinda sitting in the corner with like two enemies attacking me

[dull wharf]

That's the way to do it 👍

[crimson portal]

Okay I’ll just wait for it to pop up

[dull wharf]

Just make sure they hit you at least once every seven seconds

[crimson portal]

It’s hard to tell but I think they are

Do shield hits count

[dull wharf]

Well I guess you just got to play the waiting game

[dull wharf]

Yep

[crimson portal]

Ok

I’ll just chill for a bit

It’s 5 minutes not 15 right

Saw 15 somewhere

[dull wharf]

Nah just 5

[crimson portal]

Ok.

Something’s awry. Either I missed it or it’s not counting me in combat

New spot time ig

Does repulsion armor mess it up?

Nvm found a good spot

It’s been over 5 minutes but imma do another 5 just to be safe

[weak dagger]

the teleporter has to not be completed

[crimson portal]

Damn nvm

[crimson portal]

How do you get 4 keycards? I’ve gotten two from golden capsules on the last level, heard some enemies drop them

[zenith garden]

It’s a low chance for anything that dies to drop one

[crimson portal]

Dang

[rapid arrow]

get a good artifact of kin roll

[silver wolf]

do beam drones spawn in contact light and if so where

[drowsy knoll]

Why? There's no way you get this without command

[elder patrol]

Ye it does, albeit it's RNG dependent

[silver wolf]

wher

does it only spawn in the bridge?

thats hwat my friend told me

[elder patrol]

Look around the Contact Light

The location is RNG too, if it ever decided to spawn

[silver wolf]

okay! I just didn't want to look around the entire ship everytime if it only spawned in one spot

thank ya thank ya

[topaz temple]

does rusty knife cap at 7?

just wanna make sure my math is correct since the wiki doesn't clarify

[harsh furnace]

No it doesn't cap anymore

[harsh furnace]

Loop or do command

[zenith garden]

We are still in the testing phase for all the items

[zenith garden]

The chance might hit 100% is what they mean

[topaz temple]

yeah thats what i mean

for stuff like bleed or crit i assume it caps at 100%

[harsh furnace]

IIRC crit does cap

Sadly

[wheat harbor]

Anyone else disconnecting in the 20 minute mark on a multiplayer session?

[sour valve]

any advice for unlocking artifact of Origin?

[fervent briar]

pilot worked for me, being able to shoot up/down diagonally means you can safely clear most tps

but the bigger problem is getting unlucky with either frenzied's or enemies that can fly straight to you

[sour valve]

best items? ive been going for clovers, guardian hearts, scarfs, topaz brooch

i go for the umbrella for red items

[rigid drum]

zooming in close makes the orbs spawn closer to you, saving time on teleporter exit

[blissful pulsar]

ohhhhhhhh

[lucid cave]

for the survivor skill unlocks that say "obtain X items", does artifact of tempus make items count for 3 items or 1?

[harsh furnace]

Just... do it on drizzle, and do it fast, don't loop

you need only 1 guardian heart, 1 cape, and 1 umbrella, everything else is for damage and movement

[rapid arrow]

does the inventory count it as x1 or x3

[wary oak]

duplicate items count for total far as i can tell

[cerulean coral]

question about the secret survivor - ||I was trying to unlock robomando for my friend. We got the chest to spawn on stage 2, it was rainstorm, we left stage 3 after 22 min, but we COULD NOT find him on stage 4. On stage 2 my friend died with the battery but he still had it on the next stage. Did we do something wrong or did we just somehow miss it? Did him dying mess it up?||

[brisk apex]

not sure why it didnt show up for u but at this point you do have to start over unfortunalty

i would try to make sure that whoever presses tp is the one holding the special item

[cerulean coral]

Yeah I know, just wanted to know if we did something wrong to not repeat it

[cerulean coral]

Ok will do

[brisk apex]

thats all i have to offer, i did it in solo

[wheat fiber]

Ok, how do upgrading drones work
All i really know is:
Attack dronex3 turns into a blue attack drone
Laser dronex3 turns into beam drone
Healing dronex3 turns into medical drone
thats it
i presume going high enough through this stack makes a gold drone?

[brisk apex]

there are basics of every drone, like the laser drone or the gunner drone
then there are level twos like the beam drone or gunner drone
after u combine 3 level two drones u get gold

its like TFT if u have ever seen that game

[wanton plank]

Still wanna know if the golem drone/drone that costs hp has an upgraded variant for getting 3

[wheat fiber]

so 9 of any basic drone = gold drone
tyty

[brisk apex]

from my understanding

[wheat fiber]

its just the issue of getting that far

[brisk apex]

but i think the level two gunnerdrones are the most common level two to spawn

ive had a few golds now, just not on han-d

[wheat fiber]

honestly i just want to eventually do a drone build
but ik ill prolly have to do that on command or smth

[brisk apex]

drones make the providence fight a breeze, as long as u keep dodging its a free win

they are really strong

[worn sky]

no that's wrong

gilded drones are specifically three attack drones

which are either found after stage 2 or merged from 3 gunner drones

the lil cylinder guys

you cant merge other tier 2 drones either

[wheat fiber]

understood
tyty

[cinder kayak]

What bout laser drones tho

[jade tide]

where can I find a beam drone?

[wanton plank]

Combine 3 laser drones, or loop through stages to try and have a higher chance of a beam drone spawning

[jade tide]

so it can spawn naturally? good to know. I just failed three engi runs focusing on that unlock. I don't like engi.

[wanton plank]

Yeah it's one of the more time consuming unlocks. Can always lower the difficulty or edit damage numbers if you really don't like going engi

[sullen linden]

Tbf, if you don't like engi there's no real point in getting it beyond completion, is there?

[worn sky]

there is probably a further tier but it's just so hard to get

[zenith garden]

there are gold versions of every catagory of drone

[limber mantle]

how do you spread the poison to 15 monsters?

[zenith garden]

it has to be in one cast

[limber mantle]

ah ok, so just group some enemies up and then let it happen?

[zenith garden]

ye exactly

[limber mantle]

cool ty

Aight I got it. Single cast of it cleared the entire teleporter event I let stack up for like a minute, the screen clearing felt like in ror2 lol

[verbal cipher]

whats the use of pilot's alt ult

feel like the crowd control the primary one has just makes it better

[mild sun]

it stays on enemies and, if an enemy is close enough, can transfer to it
it has initial damage
it works great on bosses and with cooldown resets

normal ult lets you play flappy bird I guess

[sullen linden]

Normal ult plays nice with secondary from the ground, no?

[mild sun]

alt ult with wicked ring,,,

[sullen linden]

Have not played a whole lot of pilot yet, but that does sound nice

[limber mantle]

can you get in the bottom left here?

[harsh furnace]

Yes you can, go up and a tiny bit left

[rapid arrow]

yes, but the entry requires explosives

[limber mantle]

is there an equipment for that?

nevermind just the primary worked with the explosive red item

thanks

[silver raptor]

So I found this || strange battery at stage 5||.
Where do I take it? I was told my next stop with it was the final stage.

[honest plover]

See #theorycrafting pins for the full guide.

After ||finding the battery, take it to the final stage. On the far right of the stage, drop down and you'll see a small hole in the wall. Enter it, and continue left until you reach an Equipment Deposit. Place your Strange Battery within it. You are now done with the current run and will need to start a new one on a non-Drizzle difficulty to continue the quest.||

[silver raptor]

thanks

[true elm]

Does anyone know if honor affects sacrifice? I.e. the chances of an enemy dropping an item

[harsh furnace]

Yeah

Wait, no

Well, yea

But if you have clover

[true elm]

hm

[static halo]

Anyone got any tips on using Han-D? I've tried using the default loadout and Speed Drones with the Saw, but I just can't seem to get a run to stick

[finite willow]

Can I get very small hints for unlocking ||han-d|| and ||miner||? like actually small

[worn sky]

in a crate

[lunar latch]

6 and 4, respectively

[worn sky]

second is guarded by an angry lizard

that goes away after a tp is activated

you also probably would want to disable new stages to unlock miner

[finite willow]

uhh thanks

[lunar latch]

btw how do you get chef's 20 cleavers at once thing?

[slender isle]

make sure to keep all enemies on one side of you. back up if anything spawns behind you as long as necessary to keep enemies in front of you. Backing up while holding primary fire is really strong. Hammer is a much safer alternative to a saw if you die too much since it doesn't lock you in an animation for as long

[slender isle]

shattered mirror will do it if you use special then primary while it's active

[lunar latch]

aight

[worn sky]

i did it by attaack speed and ancient scepter

[lunar latch]

well appaprently 27 syringes werent enough

[silver raptor]

How do ||Prisms work? I found one on final stage while doing Robomando quest and was unable to pick it up.||

[leaden verge]

does the scavenger log exists?

i think i killed one and it dropped, but i cant find it

[primal valve]

||You need to have character unlocked whose skin prisms unlock||

[silver raptor]

Ah.

||Guess it was merc prism then||

Does every survivor only have one?

[primal valve]

Some have none 1 has 2

[silver raptor]

okay

[mellow orbit]

Did evsicerate get cooldown reduction from wicked ring in the original?

I don't have the original installed currently and I forgot

Also, did debris shield cooldown begin immediately after activation in the original or is like in RoRR, that the cooldown starts counting down once the shield wears off?

Lastly, is there a known cap for attack speed in this game? Like X amount of mocha or Y amount of syringe. It feels like somewhere past 35 mocha there is no further increase when I play Huntress.

[ocean crag]

i'm nearly certain eviscerate did get cooldown reduction and debris shield works like rorr.

[mellow orbit]

roger that, thanks

[dim fog]

anyone need help :P?

[upper lynx]

does the underwater stage spawn as the 3rd stage of a run?

[silver raptor]

Yes

[upper lynx]

ive noticed thats the one stage that actually spawns laser drones

[silver raptor]

Weird.
The drone spawn is random for every location.

[upper lynx]

hmm

twice in a row ive had 2 laser drones spawn on one underwater stage map
two different runs

[silver raptor]

What are the special encounters you must beat with Hunter for Alt Primary?

Just coincidence.

[dim fog]

which trial?

oh

that one

[silver raptor]

It's not trial.
It's over world task.

[upper lynx]

never got lucky enough to get 3 laser drones doe
i really want that alternate engineer turret

[dim fog]

uhum idk i meant help like in game like id help them beat monsoon or somthing i dont have much expirence with alt skils sorry

[silver raptor]

Ah

That's fine.

[fervent copper]

Four bosses are currently in the game that count for this objective:
Cognation Golem, Acrid, Direseeker, and Providence

Only three need to be killed in one run

[silver raptor]

Where do you find the first one?

[fervent copper]

Desolate Forest Variant #4. It is found in a secret area and gives you the Cognation artifact when killed

[silver raptor]

Thanks.

[warped fulcrum]

i’m sure this has been answered but do we know if rorr will come to consoles other than switch?

[robust trail]

What are some good red items for HAN-D?

[deft sinew]

coiler is good

guys, for the Miner challenge where you have to kill Elder Lemurians, do you have to do it consecutively ?

[robust trail]

Pretty sure yeah

[stray nimbus]

You actually could potentially find and repair a beam drone (sometimes more than one) in the Contact Light

That was actually how I got the alt turret for Engineer, though I should mention that I did like a loop or so before getting tired and going to the boss fight

[robust trail]

Its kill 8 Elder Lemurians without losing Scorching right?

[upper lynx]

do we have to play as engineer?

[robust trail]

Yes

[stray nimbus]

You certainly do have to play as Engineer to unlock the turret but I’ve encountered broken beam drones in the Contact Light while playing other characters as well

[robust trail]

Beam Drones can spawn from stage 3 onward

I'm pretty sure It's only after you loop though

They are fairly rare

[vagrant sapphire]

Is using the checkpoint ever worth it in judgement

[deft sinew]

yea, is the last achievement for me, do i have to do it consecutively ?

[robust trail]

What do you mean?

Like kill 8 back to back?

[deft sinew]

for the drones i think the best way is to just loop, it took me 90m for that one

[deft sinew]

like do i have to kill them at the same time

or can i kill 2 now , and 2 after 2m

etc

[robust trail]

You have to kill them all within the time you are scorching for

If you kill 3 but run out of scorching then the count resets to 0

[deft sinew]

i never saw 8 in the same place

[vagrant sapphire]

They can spawn in risk of rain

[deft sinew]

i hate this achievements

[vagrant sapphire]

I got that miner one by accident

If you’re struggling with it use alt primary and alt utility

[robust trail]

The way I got it was by looping a whole bunch

Both the drone and the miner

[vagrant sapphire]

I got the miner one on risk of rain lol

If you use alt primary and alt utility you basically never run out of heat

[deft sinew]

ye i think ill loop to guarantee it, ill try the alts ty

[vagrant sapphire]

Np

Miner alt utility is so disgusting

[robust trail]

Using artifact of command and kin could be helpful

You'd have to get lucky with Kin though

[vagrant sapphire]

The easiest way to get it is just farm for it

On bridge before providence

[robust trail]

Or Temple

Temple really likes to spawn Elders for some reason

[mild sun]

Exterminate any living being, or find more keycards looking around the ship for golden capsules

[main fog]

very rarely yes

[silver raptor]

Is there anything for gold-ranking all Prov Trials? I know there are rewards for 5 and 15, but what about all gold-ranked?

[gilded topaz]

can i unlock origin artifact if i use 200% damage dealt 10% damage taken

[silver raptor]

Yes.
Tried and working.

[craggy geode]

Are there any stipulations other than it being on drizzle for the battery to spawn? I've looped twice and it's not here

[robust trail]

It spawns in a clay pot in a secret area on the edge of the stage

You'll get a prompt whenever you find it

[craggy geode]

Ya I've checked both sides each time and theres nothing

[robust trail]

Hmm...

I haven't had this problem so I'm not sure

[craggy geode]

Do artifacts mess it up?

[robust trail]

No

You're on Drizzle correct?

[craggy geode]

Yep. I'm on loop three to be sure

If it doesn't spawn this time, I'll assume its bugged

[robust trail]

Once you get there can you send a screenshot of both edges?

[stoic girder]

do u have sacrifice on

[craggy geode]

Ya

[fervent copper]

Best way to go about completing Miner’s “Hot-Blooded Vengeance” challenge?

[stoic girder]

there you go

sacrifice removes it i’m pretty sure

sacrifice also removes the chest for when you do the second run to unlock him, so def turn it off when unlocking him

[craggy geode]

Well damn, I was running sac entirely to speed up the process lol

[stoic girder]

Keep rerolling stage 1 with artifact of kin till you get lumerians

[fervent copper]

They have to be elders

[stoic girder]

you can get elders on stage 1 with dissonance

otherwise just play for a long time then go to contact light

[fervent copper]

I completely forgot about dissonance.

That helps

[gilded topaz]

can barbed wire proc atgs or ukes

[vagrant sapphire]

Don’t think so

[gilded topaz]

[gilded topaz]

can they benefit from crowbars?

[vagrant sapphire]

Idk

[rain scarab]

I just started this game for the first time after the update and there;s no save file, and the controller isn't detected

I'm ok with the unlockables being lost but the controller is a bit of an issue

[robust trail]

No keyboard?

[rain scarab]

i can use the keyboard, but the controller is no longer detected

I started big picture mode and the save file is back (although I've never played rorr in big picture mode), but still no controller

[bronze badge]

what item gives cd on r?

[uncut sparrow]

Hey i have a question about the challenge that you can't be hurt with commando till the 3rd teleporter. I have a friend who helps me with that. Does it count when he also gets damaged or does it only count for me?

[stoic girder]

pretty sure it only matters for you

so if ur doing it in multiplayer you can let him kill the bosses

[deft sinew]

this stupid achievements are so trash, if i beat the game on monsoon i should get the abilities for the character

is so dumb , hours of restarting

for nothing

[slender isle]

try completing the challenge to unlock the skill instead of restarting for hours

[acoustic oracle]

which ones are you having trouble with

[mild sun]

looks like Mercenary: Beat the game on Monsoon difficulty.

[deft sinew]

? monsoon is ez, game is ez

just this challenges are trash. hours until i found the drone for engineer , hours !!

now im waiting for elder lemurs to spawn

just dumb , trash game play

literally waiting for the correct enemy to spawn in enough numbers

zzzzzzz