ror-wiki-discussion

[tropic tulip]

I've been thinking about adding it to the trivia section of the orphaned core but i never really messed with wiki editing

[glass storm]

yes i do!

[heady inlet]

We know from a Preston message on reddit that they intended to have some of the items behind unlocks at some point on AC development

[glass storm]

it's a scrapped unlock for orphaned core which is already known atp

though fun fact apparently if you failed the unlock the core was supposed to explode and kill everything except survivors?

there's an unused projectile that is also a pink orphaned core which explodes and kills everything

[cerulean sequoia]

it shouldve killed survivors too

only way to live is osp, blocks bears

[tropic tulip]

Huh. Thats a really funny fact

[odd lodge]

maybe during the quest, the only enemies would be the ones spawned from said quest

[tropic tulip]

I wonder if it would be an actual protection quest I.e it had actual health

or it was just a tp charge type thing

[deep pine]

you'd unlock it with fuel array and it'd spawn a best friend with fuel array

there's like of them 5 deactivated in plains for some reason

it doesn't do anything yeah can't really do much with it

maybe documented under best buddy trivia

[willow lion]

This is known but I have never seen footage of it ingame, can I see? 👀

[willow lion]

Tyvm

Drifter should be able to throw that out of cleanup

[glass storm]

mysterious oneshotting orphaned core for vanilla

[willow lion]

Yes!

[slim briar]

8000 tonic gaming

[deep pine]

Apparently Red Shock can't be broken out of idk where to put that

[cerulean sequoia]

what even is red shock

[placid salmon]

It's like the Red Scare but more sudden and temporary

[finite meadow]

lmao

bro why do some chats have 5 second cooldowns and others have none

oh, btw:

one of these should say slide, but I don’t remember which is which

[granite flax]

it might be the one which starts its description with slide

(not snark^)

[finite meadow]

lmaoo good point

[honest ice]

fixed ,,, for some reason the skills data thing set tactical slides name to tactical dive ,,,,, despite being in ["tactical slide"] ,,.,.,,,.,.

[deep pine]

shock applied by the drone

bombards you shocks for 2s but can't be broken out of via damage like regular shock

[glass storm]

turns out barrier drones and freeze drones are the only alloyed collective drone with 0 armor

lt. droneboy too technically

might want to update their stats on that since wiki says they have 20

[cyan moon]

yo rq, what does "defensive state"? mean in the alpha construct page

is it jus a state of being or like a skill of sum kind?

[placid salmon]

it gets a lil shield

[deep pine]

weird

[quartz perch]

does this allow shield damage..?

[deep pine]

im not gonna test it but it certainly should according to the code

[quartz perch]

ethereal nerf in the big 2025 alright

cheers to a new year

[deep pine]

can we get The cabbage to to comment about this

[heady inlet]

This could change cabbage's day to day. Someone should tell them

[placid salmon]

what does that do

[heady inlet]

If I get it right, getting damage to shield no longer prevents you from achieving ethereal

Because they changed fullcombinedhealth to just helath

[cerulean sequoia]

helath

[deep pine]

getting a trans after stage 1 essnetially is just the one and only tip now

[placid salmon]

lmao nah

it's a GOOD tip

but "just lock in when the seed is easy" is still very much doable

[heady inlet]

I have just realized that while Tornado slam is active, Blunt force's icon has a different color

[placid salmon]

Yeah because it's a guaranteed slam

Hence the name, tornado slam

[heady inlet]

Just saying because the wiki sometimes keep track of these little details

[placid salmon]

oh you know what's also interesting

there's unique flavor text, at least for cooking sauteed worms, at the Wandering CHEF

Iunno if this is on the wiki

[heady inlet]

ohhh. I havent got the item a single time yet. It is nice that they treated it as an event and gave it a text

I dont see a mention about that on its page. Only about Grovetender beeing over the moon

[placid salmon]

yeah no it's something like "Tastes like star seed, glass frogs and something something"

it's very cute

[heady inlet]

oh, its there. It is cute

[placid salmon]

I'd wager all the food items have one

[deep pine]

that's just in the pickup line

tho dialogue in general should be added

[heady inlet]

ohhhh, it has lines for CHEF, that is such a nice detail

[placid salmon]

stop flirting with yourself, CHEF

[cedar edge]

Does not mention how it refills lunar spikes

[granite flax]

it does in the description?

[quartz perch]

though ig it doesn't mention the rate at which it refills them, which would be a useful detail

[cedar edge]

This is what I am referring to

the HOW in my sentence is important 🙂

... Thats all the info bruh

[deep pine]

Feel free to add more

[odd lodge]

commencement low gravity isnt mentioned on the wiki, if anyone had values that could be added, that would be most appreciated :)

[magic totem]

since ror1 was 2d

ror2 3d

then ror3....

4D!!!

[granite flax]

i dont think this can go on the wiki im afraid

[cerulean sequoia]

its important to note how many dimensions each game has

[unreal sierra]

added a note to the Luminous Shot page about power mode

MUL-T cannot trigger the buff in Power Mode when using two of the same weapon.
is there a clearer way i could word this?

[deep pine]

as long as it says he can gain buff stacks, seems clear enough

else just activate lightning or smth

that is a weird bug huh

[quartz perch]

should say "trigger the lightning strikes" rather than the buff yeah

that can be easily misread as buff stacks

[deep pine]

idk how you'd even fix this tbh

[quartz perch]

is the game unable to distinct between which of these is the primary/secondary if you're using the same skill

[deep pine]

it checks if your secondary is the skillDef to determine if it's a secondary damage

i guess there must be some like "ThisIsTheMachineForThePowerModeAltAttackThing" that they can check for

tho short of name checking idk about that either

[modern tree]

howdy

Would anyone be interested in helping with an indie game RPG wiki? I feel kind of bad asking so randomly, so if anyone is interested/curious just DM me, I don't wanna clog the channel or anything ^^

[placid salmon]

.....is this related to RoR?

[modern tree]

ror is an inspiration for the game yes ^^

its a roguelike, shoulda said that instead of rpg

[placid salmon]

It can be a roguelite and an RPG

[finite meadow]

does drifter have a mastery skin?

if she does, can it be added to the wiki?

[placid salmon]

She has the one master skin and no DLC skin

[glass storm]

She doesn't actually, just like how sotv has no final boss

Jokes aside I can add it when I get home but if anyone can do it sooner that'd be great

[finite meadow]

oh also, there’s a disconnect between some characters having in game models spinning and some not having that

and also, some aren’t even standardized in a row 😭

[lilac crow]

mute evadings again but i rhink there were plans to do them for the rest of the survivors ,,,,,,, just theyre kind of tedious to make (havings made some for ss2s wiki( so i gets why they arent on survivors other than commando ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[finite meadow]

I don't think it's mute evading if you asked to be muted lol

[lilac crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/850574385940004864.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[placid salmon]

bread is that you

[lilac crow]

dunnos who this bread fellow is but they seem really coo l,,,,,...,(,,,,.....

[hollow lintel]

Idea i suggested that was being carried out but then the person’s pc died and so they posted a tutorial here but idt anyone has done anything about it

[finite meadow]

oh damn haha

[hollow lintel]

yea

the original message

[willow lion]

Rough test that could potentially be useful if anyone decides to update the chef page

[gentle zephyr]

is there a way to make sure the ad banner at the top doesnt block the search bar?

[cerulean sequoia]

oops thats my doing

i didnt finish the rest of the characters cuz my pc blew up

im getting it fixed in the next couple days and im gonna get that done

[cerulean sequoia]

this is just a mobile thing i think

no it isnt, actually

ill look into it

[finite meadow]

ohh ok

[finite meadow]

ah cool

looks like some of the images are in a carousel and others are not

that’s likely what’s causing this

[cerulean sequoia]

yeah im looking at it

its just different formatting

[finite meadow]

does wiki.gg support xslt files?

[placid salmon]

Someone should put all the survivor buddies onto the Crudely Drawn Buddy wiki page I think

[lilac crow]

im dont thinks .,,,. theys just haves the default mediawiki markdown stuff ands custom templates that are their own little language that scares me to look at ,.,.,..,,. .,there is a extension that lets mediawikis use xslt but seems to be in beta ands not on wiki gg yet ,.,.,,,. ,.,.,..,.,,.., ,.

[lilac crow]

addeds a gallery section to it with everyones but robomando because we hate robomando <33 .,.,

[placid salmon]

Looks great!

the collection

[odd lodge]

sweeet

[cerulean sequoia]

why does acrid look like that 😭

[placid salmon]

Crudely Drawn you mean?

[finite meadow]

ah, ok

btw, please turn pings on. I won’t be mad, I appreciate when people notify me :]

[cerulean sequoia]

fucking stupid

[placid salmon]

He's always looked fucking stupid

[cerulean sequoia]

NO HE HASN'T

[hollow lintel]

How could you offend the dog like that

[placid salmon]

Look at the damn thing

[scenic grotto]

speaking of returns wiki id like to suggest having all the travel logs on the survivor pages moved further down the page instead of being near the top

i dont have my laptop with me now so i cant help w this atm

[cerulean sequoia]

like it is on the ror2 wiki?

[scenic grotto]

yeah basically

the bespoke descriptions can also go, i think some of the pages dont even have them

in general its all a bit messy just because there hasnt been as much attention for returns in general much less its wiki

[quiet cape]

is there a website or something which breaks down scene director credits in more detail than the wiki? eg. talking about the chance of spawning different types of chests, shrines, or even chance of spawning temporary item dispensers etc. because some stages seem to have more of those than others

[granite flax]

riskofresources.com/credits might!

[cedar edge]

Straight lying

(the it can only be found as a rare drop from a collective elite part)

[placid salmon]

Probably copy pasted from another elite page early on and then never amended

[finite meadow]

where else can you get it?

[quartz perch]

crafted with wake of vultures

[finite meadow]

didn’t devs remove that?

[quartz perch]

this is the only one that wasn't removed

[odd lodge]

weird

[cerulean sequoia]

spaghetti code at its finest

[granite flax]

i dont think thats spaghetti code is it..

[onyx blade]

it was a very intentional removal not spaghetti code 😭

fuck does anyone know what the specific conditionals are to stun solus heart

wiki page on them is incomplete

[placid salmon]

you mean like

putting it into the slumped over position?

[glass storm]

HP thresholds

30% and 60% presumably but I haven't checked or tested

[onyx blade]

ohhh

[willow lion]

Shrine of shaping's credit cost isnt updated yet

Its also missing new drones aaoouggh

[near dune]

im a bit weirded out by this descriptor of time
since, if it's 0.5 seconds, wouldn't the amount of frames entirely depend on your current framerate?
or does the time to unscope shorten if your framerate is higher?

this is entirely based on the assumption that you're playing at 60 fps

(on railgunner's marksman skill)

[placid salmon]

the game runs at an internal FPS

your rendered FPS and the game's tickrate FPS are two different things

[near dune]

then that could probably be a little more clear

since "framerate" usually applies to the rendered fps and people would usually say ticks or something of that nature when referring to this

[odd lodge]

call it gameticks then

[deep pine]

0.5s is more than good enough

[odd lodge]

its not wrong, just unclear

i think the 0.5 seconds should be outskde the brackets yea

[deep pine]

there's not really any point measuring frames for this game i feel

[quartz perch]

lol

removed dat

[glass storm]

they probably meant with pearls?

or alternatively they had pearls in their inventory and didn't realize that's what was doing it

which seems more likely

[scenic grotto]

anyone know where i can find the sound effect that plays when you select rex in the lobby? the zip file i have seems to be missing it

[cerulean sequoia]

i can just extract it for ya rq

want a specific format?

[scenic grotto]

.ogg please

thank you very much

[cerulean sequoia]

oopsss,,,., forgot to rename

[patent brook]

updated the void locus page for AC

highlighted portion is the new part, everything else is unchanged

this is now the only page that mentions the void portal in neural sanctum afaik, should other pages include it? like maybe the page for neural sanctum itself

[cerulean sequoia]

goated boated

[patent brook]

totally unrelated but does anyone have the texture that the vine from noxious thorn uses?

[scenic grotto]

perfect, thanks again

[patent brook]

nvm gang I got it!!

[hollow lintel]

whoever is adding pictures of where items are placed on survivor models: good job, keep up the good work

[deep pine]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Content_Source_Limit idk dude

[willow lion]

Life saver, thank you

[ionic onyx]

When will the Unreleased page get updated with all the new helper/cut content added with AC?

Making a mod and was told that not everything is listed there so it seems like I have more work to do..

[quick aurora]

Hi, I wanted to ask if I wanted to make a video going over information from the wiki, how would I go about getting permission for that?

[placid salmon]

Permission?

To go talk about publicly available info?

[quick aurora]

I guess I more meant what sort of crediting would be appropriate

[placid salmon]

I mean it's a wiki, it's open source

You would credit the "wiki contributors" and thank them because without their work you wouldn't be able to yada yada

But there wouldn't be a "permission" to ask for

[quick aurora]

alright, thank you!

[cerulean sequoia]

you gotta thank me specifically

[quick aurora]

I will thank you specifically Alissa balissa

[vast oar]

Hey I have a question? What is this enemy cuz me and my friends have been trying to figure it out to complete the logbook but it says we’ve never killed it before what could this possibly be?

[placid salmon]

probably Heart

[vast oar]

It’s not heart

My friend has Hearts logbook and it’s not that

[placid salmon]

is it voidling

[vast oar]

Nope not that either

This is voidling

And we’ve killed them before

It’s locked like we’ve never killed one

[placid salmon]

is iiiiit twisted scav?

[vast oar]

Twisted doesn’t have a log entry

[placid salmon]

it's not Alloy Hunter right?

I don't think she has a locked portrait

[vast oar]

Nope not Hunter

Hunter before Grandparents

[placid salmon]

and it's not Mith right

[vast oar]

Nope not Mythirix, False Son or Aurelionite

It’s next to overloading worm

So maybe it’s a secret no one’s found

[odd lodge]

i thought that was heart

[vast oar]

No it’s not heart

My friend has heart and it didn’t change

[odd lodge]

idk

[granite flax]

can ur friend show us :v

[vast oar]

When they’re done with their run cuz she’s using mods rn so she wants to give Vanilla for proof

[odd lodge]

heart logbook is bugged and always displays like this unless you have the log itself

[vast oar]

We don’t know if this bugged or something else but this is from their modded run

[odd lodge]

oh huh

[cerulean sequoia]

its meeeee

unlock my logbook

[odd lodge]

hehe

[deep orchid]

That's gotta be either a bug or something related to modded. There's not supposed to be something in between Amalgamator and Hunter in the logbook.

[deep pine]

It's twisted scav from modded yes

[rigid solar]

whats the False Son DIABLO timing?

[abstract blade]

I think waxybho has a yt short on it

[cerulean sequoia]

hey @honest ice asset extractor is putting DLC skins for the base characters in RoR2.BaseContent... it probably shouldn't be doing thaatttt

[honest ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124166952361930752/1439745263676948511/snaplytics_converted_gif.gif

[cerulean sequoia]

like... its not a big deal but i often forget and have to go aaallll the way back

👅

[honest ice]

bweh had noticed with some modded skills but think its since it just grabs the survivor then the skins rather than getting the skins individuall y,.,.,.,,. shouldnt be too bads to fix !!!

[honest ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1461607135040376973.webp?size=48&name=thelicker&lossless=true

[cerulean sequoia]

thank you thank you

[deep pine]

that is how the content pack is made as far as I know

[deep pine]

Mando reload animation science

[timid skiff]

damn that looks cool

makes sense why they cut it but it looks sweet

[cerulean sequoia]

hi @deep pine can you pretty please add the drifter changes in 1.4.1 to her page ♥️

[willow lion]

False son slam doesn't have info on it increasing AoE as you fall,,,,

[cerulean sequoia]

probably cuz only neeerds would wanna know that

[willow lion]

Was gonna look through your edit history and say only a nerd would wanna know [something you changed or added] but wow I really got nothing

Also thank you for making vrit redirect to seers LOL I know for a fact ive used that personally

[cerulean sequoia]

every time my search doesnt go to the right thing i just make a redirect

[cerulean sequoia]

what DID you find?

[willow lion]

You do a lot of image stuff.

[willow lion]

How do i do this btw id love to do it too

[cerulean sequoia]

i want it to look nice

i did do a lotta stuff on the death mark page

[willow lion]

Everytime i search smth and it doesnt redirect me i literally think "damn i wish that was a redirect"

[cerulean sequoia]

Uhhhmmm

make a page with the 1st word

like, i created a page called "Vrit"

in it i put a redirect to "Lost Seer's Lenses"

like so

[willow lion]

Oh fire, thanks

[cerulean sequoia]

wait huh? what even is this

[deep pine]

iirc hunters laser beam applies it

[pliant sparrow]

Hello :)
Just poking in here to mention that the Verdant Falls diorama pictures are misnamed:
https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Verdant_Falls_Logbook_Diorama.PNG
https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Viscous_Falls_Logbook_Diorama.PNG

I would edit this page to fix it but ideally the filenames themselves should be swapped around to prevent any confusion (Verdant_Falls_Logbook_Diorama -> Viscous_Falls_Logbook_Diorama and vice versa)

I don't think I have perms to rename the files myself, otherwise I would

[odd lodge]

these are right

isnt viscous the one with the campfire

because its in the cave

[twilit lintel]

um

i cant use my equipment

in void

i mean my abilities

they are glowing red with plug

[odd lodge]

captain?

[twilit lintel]

yes

[granite flax]

the devs hate captain

[twilit lintel]

😭

hes one of coolest characters

i mean i had most fun playing with him ngl

but i figured why i cant use it....

i read its because he doesnt have signal there

😭😭

[granite flax]

technically yeah, thats a lore reason

[odd lodge]

stupid lore reasons

[twilit lintel]

damn

i will remember to not try to clear void with captain

[granite flax]

but it only applies to captain and none of the other abilities or items which also interact with external forces

[twilit lintel]

i dont think i can do it then

i think i should leave void then 😭

i wanted to unlock void monster but

yeah i dont think i can do it on captain

[pliant sparrow]

No, this isn't right. Verdant is the level 1 with the light color scheme, and Viscous is the loop 1+ variant with a dark color scheme

The images are fine, however their names are swapped

[twilit lintel]

waitttt

armor piercing rounds

dont work on "bosses" in void

they are enemies

right

[pliant sparrow]

In fact the infobox images are accurate, it's just the dioramas that are swapped on the wiki itself

[pliant sparrow]

wait whaaa

did I really misread the log title?

[odd lodge]

the lighting doesnt change between dioramas

but the viscous one has the campfire because theres one in a cave, making it appear lighter :)

[pliant sparrow]

gahhh that's so confusing xD

[odd lodge]

its an easy done mistake yea

[pliant sparrow]

thanks for the correction lol

[odd lodge]

np!

[twilit lintel]

monster items stay same

for end of the void ?

[pliant sparrow]

right, to my knowledge, the crabs and lobsters are not bosses

just very tanky enemies

[twilit lintel]

yeah idk why did i ask its obvious

but thanks

[twilit lintel]

do you know about this tho ?

will monster items change

or they will stay same and just get more

[granite flax]

they get a new item for every 2nd cell you activate, and keep all their old ones

when you leave the void, they wont keep them aftwards

[twilit lintel]

FUCK

idk if i should keep going

they have 5 tougher times

and i just have my left and right click

and yeah

i cant land any shots

😭

oh and medkits now

amazing

[pliant sparrow]

vields moment

[granite flax]

thats an extremely funny combo for captain in void fields

[twilit lintel]

BRO

THATS SO UNLUCKY

i just want my void monster

😭

and i am never coming there again

but ngl my items are helping me so so much

healing while sprinting

and my secondary stunning

its actually helping a lot

also i have laser scope and item that i can activate to have crtical chance 100% for 8 seconds

so even with tougher times i can land huge blows

[granite flax]

good luck out there...

[twilit lintel]

yeah gg :/

😭

i would rather them have any other item

then tougher times

at least i unlocked loader!

oh i heard loader is like one of easiest character

[placid salmon]

Loader has really good base stats but she scales somewhat poorly

so she's easy to just beat the game quickly with but once you start looping it gets sketchier and sketchier

[twilit lintel]

oh okay

[placid salmon]

Go fast beat ass basically

[pliant sparrow]

I think the reason I got mixed up is because that diorama looks different on my system

My settings must be different but I'm not exactly sure why

[odd lodge]

were you mid-run?

[pliant sparrow]

yup

hm, are you suggesting it's something to do with the level LUT applied to the dioramas

interestingly, it seems even brighter when I access it on the title screen

[odd lodge]

ya they do

[sinful pendant]

Visions of Heresy/Hungering Gaze says "...explodes for 120% base damage" instead of 120% damage

Is this in-game too??

[cerulean sequoia]

i'm pretty sure thats intentional

base damage and total damage mean different things, so we have to add it

[odd lodge]

its on a skill tho

i think its just a weird in-game wording

[cerulean sequoia]

skills still say base damage no?

[odd lodge]

not usually

its just an oddity

its inconsistent for items too

[polar tapir]

the cleansing pool notes section on the wiki says it can only spawn in seven environments, then lists nine

[odd lodge]

fixed!

[finite meadow]

there is at least one situation where not implying base vs total would actually be confusing (laser glaive), but idk if any other skill needs the specification.

honestly, I wish ror just took the balatro wording and used X1 vs +1 approach, instead of using percentages for both base and total damage.

[wicked rock]

About drifters repossess, it seems that there are 2 different green tiers for very light stuff (such as barrels) and light stuff (such as chests) which isnt mentioned in the wiki

[deep pine]

this thing is colored dynamically based on weight, there are no set tiers

[wicked rock]

Oh thats even more interesting

[finite meadow]

don't really like the pixel crushing on some of these characters. Is there a possibility I could edit the css for the website to make the pixel art look a little nicer?
and if so, where would I do that?

@granite flax where could I access the css of a page?

oh, it looks like it's locked to admins for wiki.gg

does an admin mind adding ```css
img {
image-rendering: optimizeSpeed; /* STOP SMOOTHING, GIVE ME SPEED /
image-rendering: pixelated; / Universal support since 2021 /
image-rendering: optimize-contrast; / CSS3 Proposed /
-ms-interpolation-mode: nearest-neighbor; / IE8+ */

}

oh hang on, this is outdated

oh nvm, my compiler was just complaining for nothing lol

[cyan moon]

guys what does this mean lol

specifically the part about the "base level 1 HP" stuff

[glass storm]

seeker has 115 health at level 1 and the barrier is 3% of that

unlike other hp%-based stuff it doesn't change ever

even if you gain hp from levelling up

[cyan moon]

oh is that intentional or sum sorta bug?

seems a lil wierd to me ig idk lol

[glass storm]

it's a bug yeah

palm blast had a similar thing with its damage but that got patched out

[cyan moon]

aigh thank u!

[stiff oar]

uh

someone should fix that typo

it's in the drone commands page

[wicked rock]

Also squid turrets are NOT drones idk why theyre listed as ones

[cyan moon]

The "healthbar" and "Lunar coin" have the same hex code despite bein different colors lol

Template:Color - Risk of Rain 2 Wiki https://share.google/b41tzzfxxPutyzBFN

Also wht are the note 1 and 2 colors lol?

Are they logbook colors or smthn?

Aigh i think I fixed the health bar thing

[gaunt drum]

Junk cube has a mechanic called unstable that increases damage by +100% every time it smacks something before exploding

I forgot the exact description but it shows it when hovering the skill

[frigid fable]

If I get nykuhana's opinion. And lot of healing. How good can't It be? Such as the healing fruit with bunch of fuel cells and gesture of the drowned. I wonder if it has a fire rate limit or smt

[celest pivot]

10 skulls/s limit, meaning more than 100% of your health's worth of healing a second doesn't do anything. Raising your max health will raise the damage of each skull technically, but beyond that it's just generic proc stuff

[frigid fable]

Aw man

I'll try something else. There's always a way :3

[radiant hazel]

what do you mean aurelionite is a female................................

[wicked rock]

Its true

[heady inlet]

Very old news

[placid salmon]

So like, Providence gave Aurelionite waayyyy too much Soul during her creation, and Soul gives things sentience and a sense of self/personality

Without that soul she'd just be another Stone Titan

But because of it she developed a mind and that mind decided it wanted to be a mother

[cyan moon]

False son when true daughter walks in

Tho tbf, auri aint rly create fs, jus kinda adopted lil bro

[placid salmon]

Nah she made him

[cyan moon]

She did?

[placid salmon]

The lemurians built the body

[cyan moon]

O waiiiyy

[placid salmon]

She gave it life

[cyan moon]

I member i member

[placid salmon]

Mithrix's goons injected him with bath salts

[cyan moon]

Ye completely forgot

Ye I was bout to say

Technically fs we know was arguably and indirectly "made" by mithirix

Or ig rather directly made by his goons

So would he be like

A surrogate father or sum shi

[placid salmon]

Nah he's the abusive uncle

Or

Grand uncle?

[cyan moon]

Grand uncle ig

If Providence is father for auri

[placid salmon]

Yeah functionally

[cyan moon]

Bur Providence was also inspiration behind fs

Guess his genes jus be strong fr

[placid salmon]

"you remind me so much of your grandfather" is a thing yeah

[cyan moon]

I should try to make a family tree for ts 1 of these days

[placid salmon]

Wouldn't be too big

[cerulean sequoia]

the brainrot is getting yo me

[gaunt drum]

Drifter gains armor when using tornado slam (no clue how much but it's probably 100)

Add pls

[glass storm]

I'll check the value and add it when I get home

[slow minnow]

I wish someone would put images of every survivor with each aspect onto fandom

I'm tired of not knowing what the homeless look like when on fire

[wicked rock]

Fuck fandom

[slow minnow]

Damn

[glass storm]

mentioning fandom in this channel is like mentioning lex luthor in the superman chat

why tf would we be helping the villain 😭

[slow minnow]

I see

So why does this channel hate fandom exactly?

I've literally never touched this place before today

[wicked rock]

Because fandom is just ass and filled to the brim with ads

[formal crater]

It's an ass place for all wiki's in general

[slow minnow]

Fair enough

Still, where else will I go to find information on risk of rain outside of discord?

[slow minnow]

I really need to pay attention to server stickers

Did not know that was a thing

[placid salmon]

B'yeah the wiki gg websites are the actual real up to date wikis

Fandom will broadcast twitch livestreams in the background while you're scrolling through in order to essentially viewbot their streams

Wiki gg will not do that

[radiant hazel]

that looks concerning

[burnt maple]

Why?

How to get to the final stage?
I've reached stage 6 and entered the primordial portal... And back to stage 1 😅

Thought I'd finally be able to finish the game lol

[radiant hazel]

why did you ADJUST THE PRIMORDIAL RINGS

TO THE PLANET

@burnt maple

[finite meadow]

wdym

[finite meadow]

you hit the prongs, didn't you?

don't hit the prongs and you'll be sent to the final stage

[burnt maple]

yeah

[burnt maple]

thought it was needed lol

[burnt maple]

ooooh cool, ty 🙂
I just neared the portal, saw that option 1st, thought needed to do it to activate the portal ;-;

[iron orchid]

i had no idea there was a wiki.gg page for this game, very glad it exists though and it looks amazing

the styling work is
goddamn immaculate

how did yall do it

my only criticism is that the tooltips are a bit too small

kind of hard to read

was trying to use inspect element on the tooltips but they kept moving once my mouse went over them

ok got it

1.2em for the font size on the .tooltip-block class seems to be good

[iron orchid]

how did i NOT know this existed

[placid salmon]

fandom

[iron orchid]

seems about right

also just fyi i think the syntax highlighting is using light mode colors right now

[winged wind]

Unfortunately still second

However I’ve noticed that when looking up more specific things it will refer wiki.gg first

Ultimately it’s a matter of time until wiki.gg will be on top since people are probably going to like fandom less and less

Atleast I hope

[past terrace]

definitely will, considering most people who update the wiki are only updating the wiki.gg, so the fandom site basically has nothing from alloyed collective. no point using a wiki that doesn't have the information you're looking for

[willow lion]

Transport mode should note how exactly movement speed effects it

[placid salmon]

It would be nice

[shadow rampart]

i'm assuming the fandom and wiki.gg admin teams are the same, i would suggest making it really easy to see that the fandom wiki is discontinued

i wonder if it's possible to display something at the very top of all pages, but that might be difficult. so maybe you could edit the infobox template to add a really massive sign that says "we have migrated, please go to wiki.gg/..., ..."

bare minimum is doing this to the home/landing page i guess. (if this violates fandom's TOS, i dont think it matters at this point)

that should hopefully drive more people to the wiki.gg version, and especially so if it's someone who knows about fandom's bullshit

[placid salmon]

they're super not I assure you lmao

[shadow rampart]

damn, so they didnt know there was a migration project?

[placid salmon]

oh no they knew they were just assholes about it

there were multiple attempts to get the Fandom team to sunset the fandom wiki

[vale marten]

if the wiki teams were the same, fandom wouldnt allow it. fandom has a hate boner for teams moving off their site because they wanna centralize wikis to their site, also theyve landed into controversy for editing wikis without the permission of wiki teams

[past terrace]

people have tried doing this, i believe the fandom team just takes it down

[cerulean sequoia]

funny how some people are still siding with super evil corpo instead of the sunshine and rainbows website

[glass storm]

Well if I side with the super evil corpo I can add unfunny jokes to the wiki for free so like

[cerulean sequoia]

found this once

wiki.gg, though

it was a page pretty hidden away

[glass storm]

What was it

[cerulean sequoia]

i do not remember

[glass storm]

The forgetler

[cerulean sequoia]

i didn't remove it, if you go searching for child related pages you might find it

[glass storm]

Easter egg hunt

[cerulean sequoia]

find my pages, type shit

[glass storm]

Find my wiki pages

[winged wind]

I think it’s gone

I just searched high and low and couldn’t find it

[cerulean sequoia]

aw man

that means my screenshot is lost media

[pallid zephyr]

y

[pine cairn]

<@&559786374228738069>

[grave grail]

That’s a fair assumption, when I first played the game. I did that, but reverted it when I read the chat message.

[burnt maple]

There's an achievement to send off the map 20 of a mob that I forgot the name lol
How to do that?

I usually play huntress, acrid or engineer and noticed that even though I've already completed the game ~4x the progress on that is still 0 '-'

Do I need to use some class that can knock back?

[placid salmon]

Rex is very good at doing it and the best map to do it on is Titanic Plains after looping

You're looking for the lil volcano crabs

[burnt maple]

Haven't unlocked him yet :v
The only one I'm missing 😂
Good to know tho, thanks for the tips

[quick dragon]

railgunner's default utility also deals knockback without damage

[quick dragon]

is the planetarium really a viable alternative?

[placid salmon]

what

[wicked rock]

I feel like thats the worst possible place to do it on if you even can

[past terrace]

I think it's technically possible, enemies appropriate to the stage spawn in voidling phase 2 and 3, and titanic plains and abyssal depths are environments it can choose to simulate
But yeah I agree it's probably the worst possible way to do it

[burnt maple]

I don't see that character in the options tho...?

oh, what about opening the timed chest at the Delta map?
need to get there in under 10min, but I usually get fucked by the 1st boss if I rush too much... I usually loot all before activating the portal

any tips on how to get there that fast (and weak lol)?

[placid salmon]

Loader would make it easiest, strong base stats, good survivability, very mobile. Only challenge is learning how her movement works

(by the way you should probably ask these questions in #theorycrafting or #ror2-discussion)

[celest pivot]

why is there literally no mention of the reduced gravity on commencement on the wiki

i would rectify this but i have next to no idea how to add to this beyond "gravity lower"

[glass storm]

i shall rectify this

[odd lodge]

realised tons of version history is missing entries and formatting, ill be going through them

also weakspots section is missing anything post-sotv

[cerulean sequoia]

oh you're too kind i was gonna do that

can you fix the drifter one ♥️

[odd lodge]

when im on my desktop ill get to it

[odd lodge]

do these count as documented or undocumented ???

probably documented right?

[cerulean sequoia]

very documented

[odd lodge]

its not rendering for some reason

[cerulean sequoia]

also don't go off the official patch notes, go off what was added

suncles has said they omit info from those purposefully

he said it's "more fun for the community that way"

not more fun for the wiki editors that's for sure

[odd lodge]

yea ofc if something is undocumented that i know ill add it

i saw something marked as hidden on one page, maybe thats what is used for stuff thats documented yet omitted?

idk

[cerulean sequoia]

huh? wdym

[odd lodge]

i forgot which page, ill try find it

oh nvm its just weird

ill fix that

[odd lodge]

i found this hmm

im gonna leave the merc one for now cause im a bit unconfident with formatting

[cerulean sequoia]

[secret]:[secret] will never not be funny

[willow lion]

I highkey think its just him playing it off when he misses stuff lmao

[odd lodge]

should survivors' names be highlighted in the tips section?

some like chef and mercenary have them highlighted, yet others like commando and captain do not

[finite meadow]

I think if it's their page, it shouldn't be. Otherwise it should

[odd lodge]

its on their own pages yeah

i agree with that personally

[cerulean sequoia]

if its in someone elses page use {SurvivorLink}

[odd lodge]

i mean like this

its weird

[cerulean sequoia]

i think they should be standardized to not be stylized in any way

yeah i know who you're talking about, im in their page

[odd lodge]

ah ok

[dry sluice]

I just made four shortcuts so I can enter conversations and drop the “And his brother loved worms.” Lore drop

[hallow warren]

heck yeah lmao

[odd lodge]

been thinking abt this more, if the skills are highlighted, it may be good for survivor names also to be so

started removing them, but i think id like a third opinion on this

[dry sluice]

They knew to stay away from the wells - but they were just kids. and they just wanted to know.

They threw in dirt and stone and kifruit and starseed, watching as they collapsed. Thorp! The gravity wells would swallow up everything. Glass and mud and silver. Wind. heat. pulsar radiation.

But one time, his brother was watching. And his brother loved worms.

And when his brother wasnt watching, Mithrix would through in worms. Thorp! But only when he wasnt watching. You see, his brother loved worms. It would make him sad. but mithrix didn’t care much about worms. he was just curious.

hell yeah

[willow lion]

If I was a third mystery sibling I'd sit below the well and eat the worms 😋

[hallow warren]

yummers

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-2-mithrix-ror2-ligma-gif-602690108483393730

[fallen bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ror2-risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain-2-mithrix-providence-gif-18396366676744609637

[quick dragon]

the purge dialogue for solus heart is in the defeated section

[fervent socket]

Is there cross-play?

[timid skiff]

no

[deep orchid]

Can somebody explain to me what this means by "about 10%"? Is it like some weirdly specific number or something? Also on the status effects page it doesn't list how much it slows by there, it's only when you hover over the debuff on CHEF's page

[placid salmon]

It's probably some weird calculation to account for the fact that it stacks yeah

[deep orchid]

so we just don't know by how much it slows?

[quick dragon]

i think its more of speed cals are just weird

since all the slowing effects don't do exactly what they say

[placid salmon]

I'm not a code hat I couldn't tells ya ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[willow lion]

I belive each additional stack increases it by a different number so it isnt listed there but it should be added yea

[placid salmon]

It's probably kinda like the armor shred math where there's a fraction involved

[scenic grotto]

x% slow means the target's speed is reduced by *(1/(1+x))
50% slow means 1/1.5 = *0.66.. speed so the speed reduction comes out as 0.33..
idk how stacking slows work but i imagine it all comes out hyperbolically so it never like puts you to 0 speed

[shut hill]

assuming each stack is a '10% slow', 1/2/3/4/5 stacks is actually ~9.1%/16.7%/23.1%/28.6%/33.3% reduced movement speed (6 stacks obviously freezes, so the slow value doesn't matter)

[shut hill]

i sure do love these railgunner challenges

(fixed it now, saw it and thought it was kinda funny)

[odd lodge]

[past terrace]

was looking at the chart for flurry vs strafe and I'm getting different numbers, anyone happen to know who the wiki user synamo is/want to talk through the math on it? I'm pretty sure my math is right but i can't figure out where exactly theirs went wrong

nvm figured it out we're good

[dense prawn]

Has the bug where MUL-T's second Retool weapon copies the spread of the first one been fixed? I wanted to do a Power-Saw / Auto-Nailgun run and noticed that the Auto-Nailgun's spread is significantly worse than the pinpoint accuracy I remember

[quick dragon]

pretty sure thats power mode

and still exists

[dense prawn]

Ah wait you're right

Nvm

[granite flax]

<@&559786374228738069> kill them

[quick dragon]

they already did

[granite flax]

i just wanted an excuse to ping the moderators

[odd lodge]

sorry i stole yer thunder 😔

[onyx blade]

oh my god young jelly documentation

anyway I wonder if its worth noting that the unit that spawns the pizzas in the moon collapse is called brotherhaunt for mithrix's page as trivia

[dense prawn]

When exactly does False Son’s Laser of the Father restore his Lunar Spikes, do you have to charge it and let it run the full duration to get them back

I feel like I never see the spikes get all refilled because I either don’t charge it fully or cancel it early

Or does it do something weird like only refill the base 4 spikes

[glass storm]

it recharges one spike per second iirc

and conveniently enough each stack of growth (and therefore each extra lunar spike you get) does NOT grant an extra second of lotf duration

[dense prawn]

Ahhh that explains why it felt like their cooldown was massively reduced while firing the laser

If anything it just made it feel MORE frustrating like “I thought this laser was supposed to give me all my spikes back and yet here they are RECHARGING ON THEIR OWN”

[glass storm]

also since we're on lotf i'd like to inform you of this

[dense prawn]

Yeah I saw that too, poor False Son wants to be Artificer so bad but he could never match Flamethrower

On a related note, what exactly is the scaling for False Son’s Growth? The page for High Protein Diet says that you need 8048 bonus health to get 40 extra spikes, but that divides super clunky into 201.2 health per spike (which means it CAN’T be linear because just a couple steaks is enough)

Also from me getting the challenge completed, it looks like the spikes can fire dramatically faster the more charges you have, how does that scale

[glass storm]

complicated

[glass storm]

passive

[dense prawn]

Ah right I forgot that they give attack speed and not just armor

[glass storm]

wiki has a handy chart tho

[scenic grotto]

has this ever been confirmed? if its true some photos would be nice but i super doubt it
feels like that one totally bullshit trivia note that was on the polylute page at some point that was like "the first couple notes r megalovania lul"

[placid salmon]

I know for a fact planet popstar is in there, I've seen it

[dense prawn]

When talking about False Son, is it "False Son" or "the False Son"

I'm seeing both, but no other survivor is referred to as "the [Survivor]" other than when referring to them as a playable character class (e.g. "The Commando is a jack-of-all-trades...")

[placid salmon]

I'd argue he is THE False Son

But as far as listing him anywhere in the wiki, just False Son would be cleaner

[past terrace]

both are fine, looking at in-game text many other survivors do the same, in their overview, skill descriptions, and even logbooks. For example, Loader is referred to as "the Loader" in her overview once, twice in the skill description of her passive, and even twice in her logbook entry, but is also referred to just as "Loader" twice in her overview.

although actually false son is more consistently referred to as just "false son" than most other survivors, besides ones who are just referred to by their names, like Rex or Mul-T

although interestingly both seeker and operator are never referred to with "the" either, which I initially thought was just due to them being written by a new team, but drifter is referred to as "the drifter", so idk

although maybe that's because drifter is a returning character so they used her original description as a reference while they just had to create seeker and operator from scratch?

[odd lodge]

all of the shrvivor names can be treated as titles and proper names interchangeably, bar acrid and rex

[granite flax]

mul-t is not a title either

[odd lodge]

wait hmm

[dense prawn]

I'm mostly asking for consistency's sake since the wiki basically never uses the "the" when talking about characters, except for False Son

[odd lodge]

it does for some of commando

i wonder if there is consistency in game

[past terrace]

there isn't, that's what I was saying

most of them change between using "the x", just "x", or even just referring to "you" as the player controlling them rather than the character themselves without any particular rhyme or reason

[odd lodge]

oh i uploaded drone logbook images btw forgot to mention here

[past terrace]

besides Mul-T, Rex, Acrid, Chef (mostly, referred to as "the CHEF bot" once in the logbook", and for some reason Seeker and Operator

[granite flax]

rors writing has never been consistent thats just how it goes

[dense prawn]

For the sake of the wiki should we just keep him consistent with other characters on the wiki and just call him "False Son"

[placid salmon]

Prolly

[dense prawn]

On a related note, what's the exact startup time for False Son's Lunar Stakes and does that decrease with his attack speed (like e.g. Artificer's Flamethrower)

[still shuttle]

I know attack speed affects how quickly you can throw stakes but i couldn't tell you the exact startup

[dense prawn]

I haven't played around with them enough to know, all I remember was equipping them after unlocking them, trying to hit a Lesser Wisp, and going "oh wow nope I'm going back to Lunar Spikes" and never touched them again since

[dense prawn]

How does Laser of the Father refill Lunar Stakes by comparison

And does Laser Burst round up or down when refilling charges of them

[still shuttle]

I learned it changes with attack speed when goobessa in a modpack made false son have infinite stakes

And also removed the minimum cooldown

There were consequences to her actions

[dense prawn]

For CHEF's It's Getting Hot in Here challenge:

• Does Stronger Burn from Oiled and Ignition Tank count
• Does CHEF have to inflict all 20 Burn stacks or can you get assistance from an Incinerator Drone or Artificer

[shut hill]

stronger burn does count

unsure on the answer to your other question, i did it with molotovs

[odd lodge]

id like one last opinion on whether survivor names should be highlighted in their pages i think

[willow lion]

What would that look like?

Have you done like a sample to see?

[granite flax]

i think it would be a bit obnoxious

[odd lodge]

they currently are coloured many of the pages, but its not fully standardised

tbf i think it looks obnoxious everywhere (viend is especially bad), but im specifically talking about this

[willow lion]

I think abilities could use an icon next to them like items and enemies, and the survivors name could be coloured

Bringing attention to specific abilities when you're looking for them is good, but it doesn't mean a lot if all of them are like that

[odd lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-star-wars-clone-trooper-write-it-down-noted-take-notes-gif-25473278

[still shuttle]

I don't think they should be highlighted idk

If you are already on the page for void fiend you're there for void fiend

[placid salmon]

I don't think there's a point yeah

[odd lodge]

what abt for skills

[still shuttle]

Idk

I personally dont think they need to be highlighted either

Cause like on void fiend's page, if you want to know something about drown you are actively on the page for that, and elsewhere it would say Void Fiend's drown (with the void fiend part hyperlinked to go to void fiend)

It feels like it's kinda there for the sake of it

I mean I can somewhat understand it for readability if you're looking for if a skill has a certain interaction with something- but like I feel like it should be consistent on if it is or isn't

Cause like on pc you can just ctrl + F to search for a word

But most people on mobile don't think to check if there's an equivalent (there is, at the very least it took me less than five seconds to find on firefox on my phone)

[dense prawn]

If I'm reading the status effects page right, all the statuses inflicted when CHEF hits things with skills are buffs that make the enemy heal slightly more? Or is the healing in question referring to the meals dropped when the enemy is killed with the status

Also what does the "pickup scale" mean

[cerulean sequoia]

i think they should be bold, NOT colored though

[odd lodge]

ooo

[cerulean sequoia]

skills should use {{skilllink}} for the image

[odd lodge]

i like that a lot actually

[cerulean sequoia]

it makes the meals heal more, pickup scale is the range you can pick them up from

[dense prawn]

Ooooo neat

So because the base is 8% max HP, every meal will heal at least 16% max HP plus 4?

Also is the healing dependent on the max HP of the CHEF that makes the meal or the character that picks up the meal

I also have to assume that even if CHEF inflicts 2 preparations on an enemy, a meal won’t drop if another player kills the enemy because the drop is tied to CHEF’s passive

[still shuttle]

ooooo i agree with this

[honest ice]

this is what some pages on the ss2 wiki use when referring to the subject of the page (coffee bag has it but survivor ones havent been updated,.,.( and it looks nice i think 🥺 .,.,

[cerulean sequoia]

uhhhmmm, i dont think so

[odd lodge]

i added the updated sots endquotes

[cerulean sequoia]

im not sure on the exact math

[cerulean sequoia]

goat

[dense prawn]

Oh wait I see, is it that the base healing is 0 and it gets increased by the skills to a minimum of 8% + 4 HP

[placid salmon]

that feels correct

[glass storm]

the picker upper

[dense prawn]

How many damage ticks does CHEF's Sear deal, and does it scale with attack speed like e.g. Flamethrower to deal more ticks in the same attack period

[past terrace]

It does yeah, it's mentioned in the tips for the challenge to apply 20 burn stacks, but not on chef's actual page ig

[still shuttle]

the only thing I can tell you about sear is that the puddle made from boosted sear does a set damage, completely ignoring your base damage

[dense prawn]

I'm having trouble gauging how many times Sear is hitting, it looks like around 8? I think the highest number of stacks of Burn I saw was 8

[past terrace]

Get scorpion, it has a 1.0 proc coefficient so each hit will apply 1 stack of the debuff and you don't have to worry about them wearing off

[plucky lantern]

quite possibly the worst time for Wiki.gg to be doing maintenance tbh (I want to see the new Hallowed Concepts wiki page )

[drifting wadi]

I'm exited for the dlc, is it gonna be the usual 15 dollars?

[quartz perch]

probably, but we won't know for sure until close to release

[dense prawn]

Yeah how long is it gonna take, I’ve got edits to push :(

[keen siren]

Ah, that explains why there isn't a page yet

[placid salmon]

If it wasn't then people would rip Suncles limb from limb like a pack of hyenas

[willow lion]

What if it wasnt... because it was lower 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

[placid salmon]

Still ripping him apart but from joy

[cerulean sequoia]

its hard being a suncles in this world

[still shuttle]

is there anything on the wiki about the ally cap? I don't actually know what it is specifically but have no clue where to even look for that

[still shuttle]

speaking of the ally cap, it's not shown in the orphaned core page that best buddy ignores the ally cap (I went in game to take a funny screenshot with the power of debugtoolkit to show it does this because for some reason i could barely find any reference to that it does this but i probably just missed it in the december patch notes)

also also on the topic of orphaned core wiki, it specifically states that spare drone parts doesn't work with it because it is not a mechanical ally. yet I've given myself orphaned core and sdp, killed off droneman (so that it's not in the way), and then spawned an enemy, and orphaned core uses the gun

I don't have any mods that fix things this is specifically my only debugtoolkit profile

[shut hill]

orphaned core works with box of dynamite too (don't know if that's listed on the wiki or not) despite not inheriting captain's microbots

[still shuttle]

actually there's an easy way for me to check this, lemme see if orphaned core can get voidtouched

cause i think the only things an infestor can't voidtouch are mechanical allies and players

I uh don't think orphaned core can get voidtouched by an infestor

I spawned a hundred of them

none of the infestors managed to voidtouch orphaned core

I'd send a picture but snip and sketch HATES when i try to use it with one monitor and idk why

just that it refuses to work and it crashed my game 😭

[young marten]

Is this where I go to ask that the damage values in Drifter's Tornado Slam actually be updated to the values shown in the footnotes?

I was just watching a youtuber the other day review Drifter skills. They mentioned the nerf to Junk Cube, but then glossed over Tornado Slam entirely with the un-buffed stats on-screen.

It's still a move that needs improvement, but primary canceling hits like a truck. Nobody is going to know that unless they read it in-game or scroll past the bad data on the wiki to get the the version history at the bottom.

I forgot to circle the damage values in the first pic. Take note of them.

[past terrace]

You don't have to ask, it's a wiki, you can just edit it

[young marten]

Well I went and made an account. I see why these were only added to the footnotes. I've been staring at this for almost ten minutes and I can't find any obvious way to edit let alone find the skill description:

search doesn't give results for 400% or any words in the description

[past terrace]

Hmm ok let me take a look

[young marten]

I feel like I'm going crazy

[past terrace]

Ok should be good now
For future reference, it's using a module containing the skill descriptions for all the skills in the game and just calling it here

[young marten]

Where/how is it being called?

[past terrace]

You can see all the modules the page is using at the bottom

[young marten]

These?

We have to be looking at two different things

This is the bottom of the main page

[young marten]

Oh those were collapsed

[past terrace]

And honestly idk how they're being called lol but i went in and fixed them in the module so it should be fine now

[young marten]

Okay, thank you

I take it that the {{Skill}} tag/module/template somehow evokes it. It's just strange that things like cooldown and proc coefficient live on that page instead of with the rest of the data

Because that just makes it look like CSS

Found the answer. Found the descriptions. I'll know how to correct any more of these should I find any

[past terrace]

Yeah that's how i figured out where to go to fix it too

Didn't look too hard at how it worked exactly tho, above my pay grade

[steady totem]

Hey wiki guys, idk if anyone has pointed out that the wiki page of the teleporter in the section "Orbs and Portals" is lacking the green orb from SotS PotC

[cerulean sequoia]

no one cares bout potc anyway

the orb only spawns while already in the path too

ill fix it in a bit

[steady totem]

I mean yeah but still is missing info

[cerulean sequoia]

(that was a joke)

[steady totem]

Sorry I have 100% read that as something serious in this server lmao

[heady inlet]

Golems, titans, vermins and pests have images of their skins on the fandom wiki but they are not in the good wiki

[verbal compass]

yeah the wiki gg only shows the sandy golem skin and nothing else

[cyan moon]

Does anyone gotta clean shot of the og Rex smoothies skin?

The like blue and pinkish 1?

[onyx blade]

according to this the orbs have a +.66% stacking

whereas here it just says 66%

[unborn estuary]

is it only me or the wiki lags?

[thick compass]

No it lags so much when I use it too

[unborn estuary]

yeah its not fun to use, and I tried both of the wikis

hope theres a fix

[placid salmon]

Fandom wiki lags because it's LOADED with ads

Wiki.gg shouldn't be lagging though

[unborn estuary]

yeah wiki.gg is better site but still lags

[willow lion]

thats really weird, does your device lag often on other sites and wikis?

[plain musk]

In the trivia page for the soundtrack isn't this not true since "They Might as Well Be Dead" is also a DLC soundtrack song that plays without the DLC?

and "A tempestuous noise and thunder and lightning heard" also plays as the boss theme for verdant falls?

[unborn estuary]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/ this is the site?

terraria wiki works just fine so cant be on my side

yeah the ror2 wiki is really delayed

[unborn estuary]

no, just on ror2 wiki ofc

[ashen mist]

it might be due to the background blur on the pages (hi i am the currently only wiki admin btw). i noticed it caused horrible lag on mobile so i just made the blur not appear on smaller screen sizes but maybe i will just have to remove it entirely. i could try removing it real quick just to see if that helps

if you refresh the site's cache (ctrl + f5) the blur should be gone now

[granite flax]

why are you the only admin what happened to me...

[ashen mist]

i meant like!!! the ror2 wiki!!! specifically

[odd lodge]

its always been wrong due to prismatic trials and multiplayer lol

[unborn estuary]

i can try now?

[odd lodge]

ill correct that

[unborn estuary]

thanks it works good now

[ashen mist]

awesome

[glass storm]

why does this mention the base damage stat without using it in the examples and why doesn't it use the % symbol...

that should fix it

[glass storm]

ok so i looked at the edit history and the description used to be better????

[quartz perch]

i wouldnt say so

the original is not as easy to read, and with no other benefit

i also am not sure what you're saying, the base damage IS used in the example

adding the percent here kinda makes the paragraph meaningless too? that's not how it works

a 1200% hit would not deal 1200 damage, and therefore would hit more than 12 times

nanobugged splits the hit into ticks of 120%, which is why the damage coeffecient of something is not really relevant here

the example that was there is abit needlessly lengthy, so that could probably be changed, but im just reverting for now since what u wrote is incorrect

[willow lion]

Theres no % sign on that 1200 though right, does it not make sense?

I dont get what is incorrect there

[quartz perch]

it would not be 1200% by 120%

it would be the damage that hit dealt by 120

which is what it previously said

[quartz perch]

@willow lion i am saying this is wrong

[willow lion]

Are you're saying it isnt divided by 120% of base damage but instead divided by a flat 120?

I could be dumb but to me both of these say the same thing

[placid salmon]

120% = 1.2

What ability are you guys talking about even

[willow lion]

Amp core, operator default special

[placid salmon]

Nanobug?

Hmmm

[quartz perch]

their edit says "If a skill deals 1200% damage..." which means it'd deal let's say 144 damage on a lvl 1 railgunner

it would not tick 10 times

it would tick 10 times if it dealt 1200 damage

[placid salmon]

OHHHHHH

What a confusing way to word that LMAO

Nanobug increases the damage dealt by 100% total, which is to say you deal double damage

However

The bonus damage being dealt is always dealt in several ticks that have a limit of 120% of the survivor's base damage

The standard base damage at level 1 for example is 12

[quartz perch]

The Status NanoBug Nano Bug
debuff increases damage taken from skills by 100%, split into hits that deal 120% base damage each.

the wiki already sums it up well in a sentence

[placid salmon]

120% of 12 is 14.4 so an attack that hits for 600% damage will deal 600% upfront, then 600% as delayed nano damage in multiple 14.4 damage ticks

[quartz perch]

it just has further explains the nuances in 2 examples that are a little too wordy

but they werent wrong which is the point, the edit is wrong

[placid salmon]

Yeh and they finally use a base damage that isn't realistic

[willow lion]

I can not find "1200%" anywhere in that screenshot dude am i blind

[placid salmon]

Because base damage is 12 and level ups won't take you to 100, and using 1200% as skill damage when the number 120% exists already is extra confusing

[quartz perch]

r u looking at the right one

[willow lion]

Theres no % sign next to 1200???

Am I crazy?

[quartz perch]

??

[willow lion]

It just says 1200 damage flat, theres no %

[quartz perch]

yeah i reverted the edit

wait

[willow lion]

No thats in the image dude

[quartz perch]

thats mot what i replied to

not

[willow lion]

IT IS

[quartz perch]

nuh uh

the one above

[willow lion]

Oh

[past terrace]

That's definitely not true
It'd need to be dealing 120 damage ticks for that, not 120% damage ticks

[quartz perch]

yeah ok sorry i was still going off the crazy assumption that the base damage is 100

[past terrace]

Right but in that same comment you used a different base damage, you can't have two different base damages

[quartz perch]

i switched away from the railgunner example in like 2 seconds dont think about it too hard

[willow lion]

Oh yeah this IS wrong
-# i was under the assumption the blue text was what she changed it to as a new version

[past terrace]

Pretty sure both the example with the % and without it are correct they're just written in different ways

Assuming base damage is 100, a skill dealing 1200% damage would deal 1200. Either way it gets divided up into ten ticks, each dealing 120% of 100, which is 120

[quartz perch]

oh yeab youre not wrong on that, though it's written quite confusingly like this with the added percentages and no changes to the text. would better off not bringing up the base damage and just saying the skill damage is divided by 120 (since that would be consistently true)

[past terrace]

No, it needs to be 120%, it's only 120 if the base damage is 100

[quartz perch]

yeahyeah

[placid salmon]

"Nanobug causes the victim to take double damage from all attacks. This bonus damage is dealt in multiple ticks, with each tick limited to 120% of the attacker's base damage.

For example, for an attacker with a base damage of 15, each individual tick can only do 18 damage at most until all bonus damage from that attacker is dealt."

The example paragraph could use some revision whatever

But the first paragraph using double is key

Less confusing

[past terrace]

It's mentioned prior to that

Personally I think the way goobessa wrote it is the best so far, we usually deal with %s more than straight damage values so an explanation sticking to that would fit better imo

The direct damage values aren't incorrect, just maybe less straightforward

[placid salmon]

Yeh

Example should definitely use base damage 15 though as it's much more in line with the numbers used in game

15 is standard enemy damage iirc

[glass storm]

maybe to make it clearer without lengthening the explanation we could include a link to the total damage section of the damage page?
i.e. "the nano bug debuff causes skills to deal an additional 100% total damage, split into hits that deal 120% base damage"

would also have the bonus of specifying that the triggering hit doesn't get split into 120%

[ashen mist]

hey just checking, is there any reason why Sunken Tombs' name is singular on the ROR1/RORR wikis? just checked out of curiosity and apparently in-game it's "Sunken Tombs" but on both wikis it's "Sunken Tomb" lol

[granite flax]

the wiki only has info on 1 tomb (no theres no reason, feel free to fix)

[ashen mist]

ok cool. i sort of figured but i also didnt wanna change it and find out later that there was actually a mutual agreement 10 years ago that the wiki must only have one tomb or something

[odd lodge]

wtf lol

[proper mantle]

this made me giggle

[cerulean sequoia]

wiki rule number 17: ONLY 1 TOMB ALLOWED YOU'LL BEBANNED IF YOU CHANGE IT

[odd lodge]

its only one tomb because no one has made the same mistake since...

[proper mantle]

the tomb is a warning

[shut hill]

if you change it then the second tomb will be yours...

[willow lion]

I think the wiki should note whether or not wandering chef can craft items that are locked on the save file (and if anyone finds out please let me know)

[cerulean sequoia]

what?

[placid salmon]

So like

When you play with Command

You can't choose to spawn items you haven't unlocked

[cerulean sequoia]

i still don't get it

Nevermind i do get it

silly me

i was thinking only of meal items

[timid skiff]

https://riskofrain2.wiki.gg/wiki/Sky_Meadow

the line near the top which reads "The Bulwark's Ambry can be accessed from this stage which is where 18 of the 19 Artifacts can be unlocked." should be fixed to "19 out of 20" due to the implementation of prestige

or "19 of the 20"

[past terrace]

Done

[timid skiff]

many thanks :)

its the little details that really make a wiki shine

[past terrace]

Np
But if you see something like this you can also just change it, you don't need any special perms to edit the wiki, just have to create an account

We can always use more people making small touch-ups like these :)

[timid skiff]

oh! alrighty then

[west lotus]

This is super minor, but if anybody does Chef runs in the near future their wiki page is missing the little blurbs for clearing Mithrix and other win? conditions

[odd lodge]

they are there for me

[west lotus]

Hmm

Ah yeah it is, I was expecting it at the bottom of the page

[dry coral]

this mithrix line wassn't documented on the wiki, but im not entirely sure when it comes up? ive provisionally put it under "Dealing damage (final phase)" because he said it when attacking a goobo, but it could also be a kill phrase? i'd appreciate if someone else could verify this line exists lol

[past terrace]

interesting

ill check it out

I'm gonna guess that it's a line unique to goobos, in the same way that he has lines specific for hitting drones, which is why it wasn't already listed

[placid salmon]

if anything it's probably an "organic ally" line?

[dry coral]

i believe in the past ive gotten unique lines when he kills non drone allies like beetle guards and such

[placid salmon]

since I think he has lines for crushing beetle guards and polyps and stuff

[glass storm]

i could probably do some testing with debugtoolkit to see

[past terrace]

yeah thats what im doing rn lol

[glass storm]

500 goobos

[dry coral]

https://tenor.com/view/500-ciggarettes-gif-11805300176740010737

[past terrace]

huh interesting

I think it might be false son exclusive

yeah i cant seem to get it any other time but he says it every time he kills me as false son

i assume he also does it on killing false son goobos since he seems to treat goobos like players

[cerulean sequoia]

interesting

[dry coral]

are there unique kill lines for false son in earlier phases?

just realised that the plus and minus numbers next to edits in the history aren't people upvoting and downvoting different edits but the difference in file size between edits chat am i dumb

[past terrace]

he always says that one when killing false son, regardless of phase

its just all caps if in the final one

i assume it just wasnt listed in the wiki because nobody had ever died as false son against mithrix before /j

[dry coral]

so like the heretic lines?

interesting

[dry coral]

that makes sense

cant wait for people discovering mithrix voicelines for when you go to fight him with only 489 energy drinks and 1 n'kuhana's when the timer is at 90:28.34 on a tuesday but only if you turn your pc upside down and surround it with those worklights that look like commando

[twin vigil]

I will be doing that

[soft urchin]

this is wrong, i have encountered a TC-280 on the alloyed collective alternative stage 3

[odd lodge]

use riskofrain2.wiki.gg :)

[soft urchin]

omg wiki.gg

im in heaven

why didnt i think of this

[placid salmon]

lol

[pseudo shell]

is ror 1 servers on playstation still on where you can play with a friend?

[odd lodge]

yeah

they dont host the servers, one of the players does

[quartz ivy]

Bap

[dreamy nimbus]

I noticed a little while ago that the wiki.gg seems to be missing a dialogue section for the Alloy Hunter and SPEX.

From my own small tests I could find just the spawn dialogue for Alloy Hunter:
Chosen, there can be but one champion! I shall not yield!

And I could find the following lines for SPEX:
When player enters the Computational Exchange:

• DISSENTER DETECTED. STARTING AWAKENING SEQUENCE. PARSING COLLECTIVE SURVEILLANCE LOGS.
• CHAMION RECOGNIZED; COMMENCING BARGAIN PROTOCOL.
  When player presents the Encrypted Cerebellum item:
• SIGNATURE MATCH. ERROR: CANNOT ACCESS. DECRYPT
  When player picks up the Exposed Cerebellum item from CHEF:
• MERGE READY. DELIVER ENEMY.
  When player presents the Exposed Cerebellum item to SPEX:
• CORE ROUTE ESTABLISHED. CONFRONT.
  When player presents any other item to SPEX:
• SIGNATURE MISMATCH. SEEK AND RETRIEVEENEMY.
  After presenting 5? incorrect items to SPEX:
• REQUEST LIMIT REACHED. CLARIFICATION:BRING THE ENEMY.

The line for getting kicked out by SPEX is already listed in the Computational Exchange page in the Trivia section, which is:

• 01100111 01100101 01110100 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110100

I had two questions about these lines:

1. Did I miss any?
2. Is there a particular reason why these lines are missing from the wiki? it's been a really thorough resource so far for me.

[past terrace]

1. Not that I know of, and 2. No particular reason, likely just that nobody had thought to do it yet. By all means, feel free to add it to the wiki

[past terrace]

We can always use more people helping out, and you don't need any special perms to edit the wiki

[dreamy nimbus]

Neat! I'll look into it soon ^^

[shut hill]

i think it's only three incorrect item presentations before he locks you out of offering any more so that might be worth verifying with someone else

[tranquil wren]

The wiki should have a" fall damage" article

[analog crypt]

Hi, it doesn't lock you out after presenting incorrect items - rather, when you deal a certain amount of damage to it

[shut hill]

i'm referring to when spex stops letting you offer it incorrect items, not when it blocks you from entering its portion of the stage

[analog crypt]

My bad!

[dreamy nimbus]

I ended up signing up to see if I can help out with the wiki!
I'm looking to enter a dialogue section for SPEX, currently trying to figure out where to place it in the page. I'm currently considering placing it between SPEX and Loot Platform.

[heady inlet]

It has to be there since Spex doesnt have a page for itself. False son and Mithrix, the other only two things that I think have dialogues, have them between lore and tips, but their pages are different. Spex is unique so that place is good

If someone is looking ofr Spex dialogues is not going to go all the exchange page down looking for them

[dreamy nimbus]

Yeah I added a dialogue section for the Alloy Hunter between lore and tips, just like Mithrix
I figured putting it as close to the SPEX section as possible made enough sense

Alright, dialogue section has been added for SPEX on the Computational Exchange page!

[placid salmon]

you signed up for the wiki.gg and not the fandom right?

[dreamy nimbus]

ye, I downloaded an extension a while ago that tells me if there is an alternative wiki for fandom

[placid salmon]

👌

[past terrace]

I don't think the fandom wiki even has a page for computational exchange, pretty much everyone had stopped updating it by the time alloyed collective came out so there's barely anything from that dlc there

[placid salmon]

good

[still shuttle]

As god intended, fandom sucks

I have an extension that just hides all fandom links so that I only see the actual wikis

[pearl thorn]

sup

wiki says this about faraday spurs

this is at 25%

this is at 100%, one stack